Hi, how do I setup tab groups please ?
#Natsumi Browser (my Zen Browser userchrome)
shy fern
Tab groups were removed from natsumi
cloud sinew
Tab groups were removed from natsumi
thats sad, do u know any theme that support this kind of feature ?
shy fern
Make sure you read the warnings, but this one
https://github.com/Anoms12/Advanced-Tab-Groups
cloud sinew
Make sure you read the warnings, but this one
https://github.com/Anoms12/Advance...
tysm
low prairie
I'd assume you need js for all this doing all this tab groups using CSS is damn impressive man
CSS gurus you lot are
mystic marsh
Hey, do you plan to change the look of **Customize Toolbar **something like this in future?
mystic marsh
@hidden kernel Any thought regards the above feature suggestion?
hidden kernel
we are COOKING
here's some extra tabs for more context
gonna try working on a new material
do note that i still consider this ass and i will prob not make this be in the final release
hidden kernel
do you really need them?
next pine
right
hidden kernel
when you expand the urlbar, it's because you want to type something, so having the buttons there would just be more clutter
next pine
guess just me being weird when theres only a "button" on left side and the right is just empty
ok
Btw thank you so much for your effort on this thing
Ive been use it since first release fyi
hidden kernel
a little issue
damn
one sec
nuked the border radius
will release fix for next release
next pine
that was fast!
hidden kernel
yeah i found the issue pretty quick
next pine
thanks!
sharp pumice
you will release again if zen releasees a new beta right?
hidden kernel
you will release again if zen releasees a new beta right?
i could release early
no compatibility issues im seeing rn
sharp pumice
damn cant wait 🚀
hollow scarab
here's some extra tabs for more context
People for months : It's not possible
Mr.Green when he have time : Hold my code !
Seriously, that's amazing work ^^
crimson tartan
here's some extra tabs for more context
W work bubs
hidden kernel
People for months : It's not possible
Mr.Green when he have time : Hold my code ...
i didnt make that 
only the css
its in 1.10t
hollow scarab
i didnt make that <:skully:1279861883037286535>
How hell, I didn't knew it !
Still amazing ^^
hidden kernel
new screenshot based on updated design
i just had a thought
what if
hmm
i think ive found natsumi v3 design
time to get cooking this weekend
v3 now in the works
iteration 2
covert quarry
wonderful
torpid lily
perfect
slim prism
iteration 2
this looks epic
oblique girder
Hello, I just made a new profile and when I applied the theme, the workspace doesn't go down to the settings button as intended. Is there a way to fix this?
Also, really nice theme :D
hidden kernel
Hello, I just made a new profile and when I applied the theme, the workspace doe...
button should show once you add a 2nd workspace
zen issue btw
oblique girder
Ahh, I see. I'll check just in case
It works, but the thing underneath the Essentials is still there, but I think I'll ask in other channels since it's a Zen issue
Thx btw :D
fickle forge
new screenshot based on updated design
what's this? like a mini player bottom of sidebar when you play something?
mystic marsh
it got added in vanilla zen?
It's there in twilight.
Will be there in Beta by next week.
mystic marsh
i am in beta
Install twilight to check it out, but just know that it's unstable asf.
fickle forge
Install twilight to check it out, but just know that it's unstable asf.
it installs as a separate browser right or will install over beta zen?
mystic marsh
it installs as a separate browser right or will install over beta zen?
Separate browser.
Will be listed in about:profiles.
hidden kernel
meet haze
new material
this one uses tinted haze
heres regular haze
haze will replace glass
hidden kernel
no
mystic marsh
no
Would've looked cool. The code I have doesn't work with Natsumi, but here is a demonstration of how it does.
Still the new changes you're adding to natsumi is 🔥.
final sleet
With all these changes, will you also add neumorphism effect?
what is it? i dont understand
mystic marsh
what is it? i dont understand
See the video. The animations for opening and closing the tab.
final sleet
See the video. The animations for opening and closing the tab.
oh. i already have that. and i asked mr.green to add it long ago.
he said no 😔
mystic marsh
oh. i already have that. and i asked mr.green to add it long ago.
Well, does yours actually works on Natsumi?
final sleet
Well, does yours actually works on Natsumi?
ya
hidden kernel
bro
final sleet
i got it form "my internet" i think
final sleet
its smth like this
someone is already making this
hidden kernel
ik
final sleet
in the nebula thread
mystic marsh
its smth like this
Yeah well those are icons for it, but what I meant was the effects that comes with it - as shown in the video.
final sleet
Yeah well those are icons for it, but what I meant was the effects that comes wi...
do you need the css for it?
mystic marsh
do you need the css for it?
ofc, send it!
hidden kernel
rn im busy working on v3
once thats done
i may consider
time to update findbar
wait
i should prob finish tabs v3 lmao
final sleet
ofc, send it!
this is how it looks
mystic marsh
this is how it looks
Do you have any other themes?
On which you've tried with this code?
for this particular effect.
final sleet
Do you have any other themes?
i am using pinapple fried.
and the zen internet extension
mystic marsh
i am using pinapple fried.
Oh, given it's based on cohesion and natsumi, this code must work there as well.
final sleet
Oh, given it's based on cohesion and natsumi, this code must work there as well.
my code is here if you want to look at some more stuff
slim prism
stolen css
mystic marsh
my code is here if you want to look at some more stuff
Is the code supposed to be added in userChrome.css?
I added it at the bottom and no effect yet 😦
final sleet
Is the code supposed to be added in userChrome.css?
ya the user chrome
mystic marsh
i left that out
Yk what; send a new set of code, all at once. 🙂
It's getting too much confusing here!
final sleet
Yk what; send a new set of code, all at once. 🙂
ya im doing that
here is that code snippet
there is a back and forward swipe animation in there aswell. if you dont like it you can remove it
mystic marsh
there is a back and forward swipe animation in there aswell. if you dont like it...
what is that?
swipe as in touch screen animation?
final sleet
what is that?
this animation
hidden kernel
this animation
might steal
final sleet
~~might steal~~
not mine
hidden kernel
lmao
i mean i always can reimplement it, but i cant be bothered rn
especially since im working on natsumi v3
mystic marsh
this animation
Does this happen when you press Alt + ⬅️/➡️?
sharp pumice
will you also change the urlbar ?
hidden kernel
yes
hidden kernel
i already did
sharp pumice
damn
final sleet
~~might steal~~
it is from @wind nacelle
hidden kernel
final sleet
Does this happen when you press Alt + ⬅️/➡️?
“no
hidden kernel
"blade" design + "mistcrylic" material
final sleet
Like how does this happen? What makes it happen?
swipe on track pad
final sleet
Like how does this happen? What makes it happen?
im on macos if you swipe with 2 fingers on trackpad, it will go back and forward
mystic marsh
swipe on track pad
Oh, then it's a MacOS thing. Good.
hidden kernel
im satisfied with this
sharp pumice
the thing i like about natsumi the most ist the pdfjs implementation and how tabs become red when hovering over the x
mystic marsh
~~might steal~~
Yk what, steal this entire code for your new V3 ✨
Add your own green touch to it! 💚
mystic marsh
i still gotta work on v3 too
Not too much effort needed for Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V 😉
hidden kernel
well guess what
i have priorities
and my top priority for natsumi rn is to finish v3 before i copypaste stuff
tribal turret
im satisfied with this
wait is the present in natsumi rn? 😭 gradient look so good idk why i forgot to add the darker shade inside of tab
hidden kernel
wait is the present in natsumi rn? 😭 gradient look so good idk why i forgot to ...
no
thats v3
tribal turret
yeah
btw, idk how to explain but
in the latest update, tab gradients are not working
hidden kernel
wdym
tribal turret
like when i make a tab in a container, it used to show a gradient which i copied from natsumi
hidden kernel
try using another container
tribal turret
also, when i hovered over the x button in a tab, it showed a red gradient to indicate, which is a really n ice feature
but it is not working on latest update atleast with my code, never touched it
tribal turret
yeah lemme try
hidden kernel
and see if it helps
hidden kernel
rip
tribal turret
@hidden kernel sorry for pinging but um i am having a bit of an issue
turns out
it wasnt natsumi problem the problem is that
i changed just a letter in it to fix an issue i had with my essentials
but somehow it is also removing these gradients
tribal turret
transition: background 0.3s ease, box-shadow 0.3s ease, border 0.3s ease !important;
overflow: hidden !important;
position: relative !important;
&::before {
content: "";
width: 0;
height: 100%;```
in this part of the code in natsumi base, i changed the height 100% to 0% as it was causing issues with my essentials, the essentials were looking like this
like it had a weird border on the left
so i changed it to 0% and it fixed it
but that also seemed to remove this gradient
hidden kernel
yeah i cant really help here
like i said
current css is just ass
its been a while since i touched it
and even if i do im likely to mess essentials up because of how badly coded it is
tribal turret
ripp
sharp pumice
in v3 if you hover on 'close tab' does it also change to red ?
sharp pumice
noice
tribal turret
Really like this design language
hidden kernel
same
whole mauve
how do i "Copy natsumi-config.css and natsumi folder to your chrome folder."
on github? thanks
covert quarry
how do i "Copy natsumi-config.css and natsumi folder to your chrome folder."
On the right of the github page, there is a "release" section
final sleet
im satisfied with this
will we be able to toggle this in about:config
whole mauve
On the right of the github page, there is a "release" section
what does that do? like how do i get it on my downloads, i also dont have userChrome.css
whole mauve
https://github.com/greeeen-dev/natsumi-browser/blob/main/README.md#installation
ive seen that i just havent done it before and am not familiar with it so i was having problems with it\
covert quarry
Where are you blocked?
whole mauve
Where are you blocked?
just adding the github code to my files
covert quarry
What blocks you from doing that?
whole mauve
copying it from github was difficult
whole mauve
What blocks you from doing that?
nothing blocks i just cant figure it out even after reading it
i got it slightly tho
whole mauve
right ok and then what?
covert quarry
whole mauve
make a text filed named userChrome.css and add the import thing?
i did that so ill see
thanks btw
covert quarry
Instead of creating a new userchrome, place the one from the natsumi package
Also don't forget this (it should be noted as a whole step, not in a warning box imo)
@whole mauve ^
whole mauve
ok i deleted the one i made so the one above is all thats left
ill reload zen then see?
covert quarry
Nope. Drop the natsumi folder in your chrome folder, as well as natsumi config (all in the same folder the userchrome.css is)
Then it should be good
whole mauve
Nope. Drop the natsumi folder in your chrome folder, as well as natsumi config (...
its in chrome but does the 'natsumi config' mean?
also, will my mods go after this change?
covert quarry
Dont put natsumi-browser-2.6.4 here
whole mauve
sorry for this i meant it was in the natsumi folder
covert quarry
+(natsumi) "userchrome.css"
@hidden kernel The install guide is outdated but you're working on v3 so it may be sth to update when you release the v3
whole mauve
whole mauve
delete it u mean right?
covert quarry
Yup
whole mauve
maybe its just me but people new with this stuff might need a new tutorial like video or smth
oh well thanks
covert quarry
The zen tutorial might need a lil revamp and natsumi will be updated anytime soon so I guess mr green will update his as well
whole mauve
yep it works but on the other account it dosent
fickle forge
putting everything inside chrome folder should work by default
whole mauve
putting everything inside chrome folder should work by default
makes sense
covert quarry
putting everything inside chrome folder should work by default
Yes but...
covert quarry
Also don't forget this (it should be noted as a whole step, not in a warning bo...
This ^
fickle forge
but what
covert quarry
<@356456393491873795> The install guide is outdated but you're working on v3 so ...
And this ^ (the install guide is from when we only had a userchrome.css to add)
@fickle forge
whole mauve
oh right maybe do the same thing but type it up on other browser page?
covert quarry
how do i get it on my other account? (profile)
Do the same in your other profile?
But who's using multiple profiles when u can use workspaces/containers?
whole mauve
what are containers?
whole mauve
Do the same in your other profile?
But who's using multiple profiles when u can ...
at school sometimes it blocks stuff if i use the same profile
covert quarry
at school sometimes it blocks stuff if i use the same profile
Due to what?
whole mauve
Due to what?
school blocking systems? idk
fickle forge
And this ^ (the install guide is from when we only had a userchrome.css to add)
download this whole thing as a zip and put it in chrome
you can deleted the readmes and license
covert quarry
download this whole thing as a zip and put it in chrome
I know, i have no issue with installing it
I just say that a proper installation guide would fix these kind of misunderstanding
covert quarry
school blocking systems? idk
Well, if it's on the network side, changing profile should not improve things
covert quarry
you can deleted the readmes and license
Readme, license, bento, images
whole mauve
this must be a different mod thing ay?
karmic marlin
does anyone know why the side panel isn't appearing as transparent?
the bookmarks and history sidebar do, seems weird that the side panel doesn't
covert quarry
does anyone know why the side panel isn't appearing as transparent?
This panel should display webpages so if you use it, it should not be transparent
karmic marlin
This panel should display webpages so if you use it, it should not be transparen...
fair enough, but why is it transparent on the github screenshot?
covert quarry
this must be a different mod thing ay?
A custom usercontent i think
unpin it maybe?
whole mauve
it's a modified natsumi
How do I get this? Don’t have to tell me the steps lol
karmic marlin
unpin it maybe?
looks the same unpinned
covert quarry
Mmmh do you have other css/mods?
karmic marlin
nah nothing that should affect the side panel, i only have these for mods
and the only css I have is natsumi, plus one in userChrome.css to change font for browser UI that's currently commented
fickle forge
How do I get this? Don’t have to tell me the steps lol
i modified myself using snippets from others
whole mauve
i modified myself using snippets from others
Right and that’s across all pages right might not be good for me for school
fickle forge
if you want the transparent sites thing you need sameersaw's firefox extension
fleet fractal
does anyone know why the side panel isn't appearing as transparent?
about:config -> add configs natsumi.sidebar.zen-sidebar-glass-effect and natsumi.sidebar.blur-zen-sidebar
karmic marlin
about:config -> add configs natsumi.sidebar.zen-sidebar-glass-effect and natsumi...
it works, tysm! it doesnt work when the side panel is pinned but that doesn't matter too much for me
hidden kernel
will we be able to toggle this in about:config
no
fleet fractal
:D
karmic marlin
im just gonna keep it disabled for now cos i dont have all websites set to be transparent so it kinda looks weird with just the top and bottom bits being transparent
but good to have the option if I ever need it in the future
hidden kernel
it works, tysm! it doesnt work when the side panel is pinned but that doesn't ma...
thats intentional
fleet fractal
side panel not being transparent while being pinned?
hidden kernel
yep
jaunty sundial
is there a css where most of the hover animations are held for tabs?
karmic marlin
thats intentional
ohh alright, good to know
hidden kernel
minplayer w/ haze material
hidden kernel
v3 beta is here: https://github.com/greeeen-dev/natsumi-browser/releases/tag/v3.0.0-b.2
remember this is a beta release, if shit breaks thats to be expected
also please use this on twilight and not beta
deft plinth
how can i enable tab group in natsumi??
hidden kernel
you cant
fleet fractal
tab groups break the split view (on sidebar) for some reason
so better to not use it
dapper lava
minplayer w/ haze material
That looks so sick
Like christ , that blur... just cheffs kiss
dapper lava
tf are you all saying
The haze thing
Looks much better than your previous implementation
dapper lava
cheff's kiss
Ye
dapper lava
Pun intended
hidden kernel
just why
dapper lava
i am not accepting kisses from anyone except family
I was about to say zen family
Lmao
dapper lava
i am not accepting kisses from anyone except family
Or noarc family
fleet fractal
is natsumi-base.css supposed to say /* ==== Base UI v2 (Sidebars and tabs) ==== */ or is that part just not updated?
fleet fractal
nah just wanted to know if i should borrow it for my css if its been updated
hidden kernel
🤨
lmao
i mean i did update it
for example
i changed some stuff
and deleted the tabs css
moved it to a separate one
fleet fractal
oh
hidden kernel
tabs css is easier to maintain now
hidden kernel
minplayer w/ haze material
haze (light)
slim prism
who is that cat
dapper lava
haze (light)
hidden kernel
https://tenor.com/view/well-now-im-not-doing-it-well-now-im-not-gonna-dont-want-...
ok fine
ill make haze dark mode only
hidden kernel
wrong reply bud
dapper lava
Nvm
dapper lava
It looks nice
hidden kernel
neat
dapper lava
Ye
hidden kernel
tabs and miniplayer actually use haze too
dapper lava
Perfect
mystic marsh
tabs and miniplayer actually use haze too
Idk but I am unable to identify haze in light mode. 🔍
hidden kernel
Idk but I am unable to identify haze in light mode. 🔍
it depends on the video
now we have three materials for natsumi
mistcrylic, haze and glass
mystic marsh
it depends on the video
Right, that's one of the reasons I prefer dark mode!
hidden kernel
youll see mistcrylic for urlbar and findbar
its like glass, but with a different tint and some grain for a matte effect
jaunty sundial
oh i did not see the beta part my apologies
hidden kernel
ill release the stable version once 1.10b is out
mystic marsh
ill release the stable version once 1.10b is out
Is 1.10b the next version?
hidden kernel
yep
mystic marsh
But isn't 1.9 > 1.10?
mystic marsh
Oh, I didn't know it's two different things till now!
Like versioning is different from math.
fleet fractal
will natsumi-tabs.css not work for tabs theme on its own?
hidden kernel
wdym
fleet fractal
i added this to my userchrome but it dosent work? like the tab themes
hidden kernel
yeah it wont work
hidden kernel
preload.css
this loads all the required variables
and loads stuff from natsumi-config.css if available
dapper lava
But isn't 1.9 > 1.10?
Ye , 1.1 is not 1.10
fleet fractal
natsumi.experiments.miniplayer-transparent dosent work :(
(is it still WIP?)
or is that not what that about:config does?
fickle forge
are you going to add this?
hidden kernel
``natsumi.experiments.miniplayer-transparent`` dosent work :(
(is it still WIP...
it actually does work
if you turn it off, go to settings then change your accent color
youll see it
hidden kernel
off
vs on
when its off, it uses the accent color
when its on, it uses the background color
hidden kernel
zen has lvl 3 boost so
fleet fractal
am i trippin?
what about this?
hidden kernel
its normal
fleet fractal
oh
sharp pumice
does the readme still apply for the new natsumi v3 beta?
covert quarry
How can we select our preferred material?
covert quarry
Then : https://github.com/greeeen-dev/natsumi-browser/blob/main/README.md#if-you...
Follow this and it should be good
@sharp pumice ^
sharp pumice
Yeah but it was updated 2 weeks ago. I asked if it still applies for v3 or if some things are missing
hidden kernel
Yeah but it was updated 2 weeks ago. I asked if it still applies for v3 or if so...
yes it does
i kept the same uCL standards structure since 1.4.0
sharp pumice
what do you call this effect again?
hidden kernel
mistcrylic
for most elements, the material is fixed
but for some elements they can be customized
for example sidebars and pdfjs
visual pond
is there way to adjust this padding to the heading and the tabs as well
i am currently using natsumi configs
hidden kernel
what is that
visual pond
what is that
group tabs heading
hidden kernel
we dont do those there
visual pond
we dont do those there
so u mean the padding for group tabs is due to other mods?
hidden kernel
yes
visual pond
interesting
zen/ff doesnt saves the group tabs after you close the browser 🤔
shy fern
yeah, thats one of the problems with it currently, which is why its recommended you dont use it
visual pond
man
i thought it started to work fine
jaunty sundial
are you aware of the close button being cut off in collapsed tab mode? @hidden kernel
unsure if its a natsumi thing or a zen thing
so apologies if its zen
tribal turret
im so dumb i cant make materials work on nebula
for the pdf viewer and stuff
i edited the pdf code from v2 and made it like this
the only problem is that the materials are not applying at all
blur effect and stuff also didnt fix it
hidden kernel
i edited the pdf code from v2 and made it like this
just copy v3 cods
tribal turret
just copy v3 cods
i did, i guess i dont fully understand how to impliment the materials with code too
the v3 code also works but only the material does not work
so i tried with only natsumi full code and it worked, then i found that the materials were present in preload.css in natsumi folder
so i copied that code to my userchrome
and then tried
still didnt work
im too dumb lolol
hidden kernel
how
tribal turret
how
thats what i am trying to figure out lmao
it works if i use default natsumi
if i copy stuff from natsumi to default zen then it does not
maybe because its just how zen handles natsumi css
tribal turret
i just figured out the problem
idfk how but nebula is causing blur to not work
on websites
just remembered someone on github opened this as an issue
visual pond
im so dumb i cant make materials work on nebula
what is there needed or remaining to work on this theme or thread 🤔
tribal turret
what is there needed or remaining to work on this theme or thread 🤔
fixing bugs
i found out exactly which css is causing the blur to not work on websites
visual pond
i found out exactly which css is causing the blur to not work on websites
blur as in transparent?
what was causing it
brisk birch
is there folders like shown in the scrn shot ?
tribal turret
blur as in transparent?
what was causing it
no not transparent
dapper lava
is there folders like shown in the scrn shot ?
nope
They were removed so until zen released its own native implementation
visual pond
ohh
btw natsumi renamed as nebula 🤔
tribal turret
ohh
btw natsumi renamed as nebula 🤔
wdym
tribal turret
what is nebula in the image
`nebula enabled`
basically my mod was causing issues with blur when it was enabled
because of a faulty code
dapper lava
ohh
btw natsumi renamed as nebula 🤔
lol
hidden kernel
ohh
btw natsumi renamed as nebula 🤔
no
i named it after my gf's japanese nickname, why tf would i change it
im too much of a simp for her to change it lmao
dapper lava
im too much of a simp for her to change it lmao
lmfao
dapper lava
i named it after my gf's japanese nickname, why tf would i change it
remember people suggesting you to remix pineapple fried name with natsumi 💀
tribal turret
im too much of a simp for her to change it lmao
lmao
hidden kernel
remember people suggesting you to remix pineapple fried name with natsumi 💀
no i forgot
dapper lava
lol
mystic marsh
im too much of a simp for her to change it lmao
That's good to hear that I'm not the only one!😅
final sleet
when will v3 come for stable?
hidden kernel
when 1.10b is out
final sleet
we just got 1.9.1b
hidden kernel
ik
mystic marsh
when 1.10b is out
I.e., by next week?
hidden kernel
idk
mystic marsh
Given the trend, must be next week.
rocky arrow
everytime this thing comes my screen its just rage bait at this point lol
hidden kernel
<:pepetraumatized:1337521297189765263> everytime this thing comes my screen its...
bookmarks?
rocky arrow
bookmarks?
gradients he choose like he intentionally want to make it worse
hidden kernel
mystic marsh
<:pepetraumatized:1337521297189765263> everytime this thing comes my screen its...
What resolution does your monitor has?
upper owl
Is the new v3 beta just the dev branch?
hidden kernel
yes
upper owl
is it possible to set the mistcrylic look for the tab bar in compact mode or would it be possible to get the glass look back for the urlbar?
upper owl
👍 It would look nice if everything is in the same style
vestal falcon
do you guys know what the new macos widget material setting in about:config is?
final sleet
do you guys know what the new macos widget material setting in about:config is?
different kind of transparency.
set it to 7 for more blur, and to 1 for more transparency
karmic marlin
does anyone know how to remove the animation that the url bar has when I open a new tab?
i love how it looks but its a little slow cos I just subconsciously wait for the animation to end before I start typing, I just dont like typing and interrupting it 😭 i'd rather disable it and just keep that back to default
hidden kernel
natsumi.urlbar.light
karmic marlin
`natsumi.urlbar.light`
omg perfect, tysm!
visual pond
basically my mod was causing issues with blur when it was enabled
if i add nebula configs along with natsumi
it wont create conflict right?
tribal turret
if i add nebula configs along with natsumi
it wont create conflict right?
not really
nebula definitely works with natsumi
visual pond
not really
so ill need to remove those conflicting files present in natsumi also ig 🤔
but im thinking of nebula coz of transparent effect for pages 🤔
tribal turret
but im thinking of nebula coz of transparent effect for pages 🤔
nebula does not have transparent pages
just use zen internet extension for that
cuz i dont really like transparency on web pages, makes everything unreadable
visual pond
just use zen internet extension for that
i think thats a buggy one if we use it with natsumi 🤔
visual pond
cuz i dont really like transparency on web pages, makes everything unreadable
true
i just wanted to experiment
tribal turret
i think thats a buggy one if we use it with natsumi 🤔
ohh weird
hidden kernel
i think thats a buggy one if we use it with natsumi 🤔
natsumi doesnt interfere with much shit on the websites
and it only changes the background for the pdf viewer
nothing else
hidden kernel
if all goes well
natsumi v3 releases today
ima make natsumi browser website rq
cuz im bored
actually nah
too lazy
fleet fractal
if all goes well
big if eh?
hidden kernel
lmao
vestal falcon
@hidden kernel you the goat!
hidden kernel
waiting for windows build to finish rn: https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/actions/runs/13926161887
once its done building ill release natsumi v3
i cannot express just how much i love the new haze material especially on pip
cant wait to release this
its one hell of an update, made possible by the love and support my beloved gf @ripe rune gives me ❤️
i actually made an installer script just for her, gonna share that w/ her sometime soon
vestal falcon
i can't wait for this release! i've been using your skin since you first released it and i love it so much! many thanks to your gf for inspiring the skin
hidden kernel
based on the build time for windows arm
x86 build should be done in about 5 minutes
and whole thing should be ready in like 9 minutes
hidden kernel
i can't wait for this release! i've been using your skin since you first release...
glad to hear that theres still long time users that stuck around for v3 🙏
hidden kernel
x86 build should be done in about 5 minutes
also forget this...shits still building
we waiting
fleet fractal
and whole thing should be ready in like 9 minutes
lol
cheese burger went to sleep
proly
or just afk
hidden kernel
natsumi v3 is HERE 
download: https://github.com/greeeen-dev/natsumi-browser/releases/tag/v3.0.0
remember to update to 1.10b to use v3
vestal falcon
lets gooooooooo
ripe rune
its one hell of an update, made possible by the love and support my beloved gf <...
anything for u!! ❤️✨
covert quarry
i love how it looks but its a little slow cos I just subconsciously wait for the...
You can reduce to time also this is what i did for my+gf configs
hidden kernel
anything for u!! ❤️✨
now lets get married ❤️💍
ripe rune
now lets get married ❤️💍
yes i do ❤️
low prairie
Bro proposed on a discord thread😭 😭 😭
vestal falcon
haha yall cute as hell
hidden kernel
she's the cuter one tho
hollow scarab
Take this as something from someone whose family is loved cursed :
It's so cute to see people who so openly still belives in love, and love each other, sharing this positivity ^^
I wish I could xD
I hope the best for you two 😉
fleet fractal
is there a way to change opacity of background-color: var(--natsumi-mat-hz-background) !important;? (from tabs.css)
hidden kernel
bro i just released v3 give me a break 😭
fleet fractal
.-.
hidden kernel
like actually tho
i spent a long while trying to figure out the optimal opacity for the tabs thing
fleet fractal
oh
hidden kernel
and i turned it into the haze material
final sleet
glad to hear that theres still long time users that stuck around for v3 🙏
i remember this all started with the urlbar right
rocky arrow
natsumi v3 is HERE <a:yippee:1324367346026020956>
download: <https://github.com...
me on my to rice natsumi browser lol btw great work 
final sleet
is there a way to remove the texturing on urlbar and find bar?
rocky arrow
cooking? natsumi floating search bar appearing animation are butterly smooth
karmic marlin
natsumi v3 is HERE <a:yippee:1324367346026020956>
download: <https://github.com...
hey HEYYYY awesome
karmic marlin
i have to say i love the red colour that pops up on the left of the tab when u hover over the close button
small attention to detail but I appreciate it 🔥
hidden kernel
cooking? natsumi floating search bar appearing animation are butterly smooth
thats not natsumi
rocky arrow
thats not natsumi <:skully:1279861883037286535>
floating search bar appear animations are
rocky arrow
no they arent <:skully:1279861883037286535>
directions are different but they are
hidden kernel
its a lot more subtle
hidden kernel
ik
rocky arrow
this is
btw you know what is the class of the indivisual search result i cant inspect coz it hides , i am talking abt highted part(google-google.com)
dapper lava
btw you know what is the class of the indivisual search result i cant inspect c...
Disable popup autohide
fervent jay
natsumi v3 is HERE <a:yippee:1324367346026020956>
download: <https://github.com...
Is the workspace supposed to look like this in v3? Just because it looks different from your images
rocky arrow
Disable popup autohide
zamm did knew the thing
hidden kernel
hey how to do look like you, i like green too
dapper lava
zamm did knew the thing
Ye
dusky portal
sir is there a way to always show pinned tabs at top no matter how much I scroll down the sidebar?
hidden kernel
its in the readme
dusky portal
its in the readme
this?
hidden kernel
yep
dapper lava
@hidden kernel Do you have any idea how to enable backdrop-filter on normal tab-background ?
They are on a transparent or the swiping workspace div so backdrop filter doesn't work normally for them
Do you have anything like that in natsumi ?
hidden kernel
Do you have anything like that in natsumi ?
ye
dapper lava
how do you do it ?
hidden kernel
just saturation and contrast for haze
dapper lava
yeah i saw , that's why I asked
dapper lava
use !important
believe me I have lol
The weirdest part is , it works when the window is maximised , anything else just doesn't show
god css is weird sometimes
austere raptor
contrast of gradient on hover is a bit... low? At least when using this colorscheme. But the pink hue highlight when hovering over the "close" button looks great
hidden kernel
looks fine for me, maybe use a brighter background or a different accent color
austere raptor
wait how do I change the accept color
chaing it from here doesn't do much
changing it from here also doesn't affect the tab on hover thing
final sleet
looks fine for me, maybe use a brighter background or a different accent color
wait my tabs are black
austere raptor
selected tabs are black, that's ok
fleet fractal
contrast of gradient on hover is a bit... low? At least when using this colorsch...
put a blackish background and check
there is an accent color
it just matches the background color
(black or white either works)
austere raptor
hover on a workspace with no custom colors at all
hidden kernel
yeah thats the new design
final sleet
yeah thats the new design
the black one is the new design?
final sleet
looks fine for me, maybe use a brighter background or a different accent color
or this green one
as in it hasn't been released yet
the red and black kind of look sick ngl
hidden kernel
the black one is the new design?
ye
its green because it inherits the background color
deft plinth
How to hide all the deactivate workspaces from the bottom, it obtain extra width of the sidebar...
deft plinth
thats a zen issue
Oh sorry, i thoght it might be some issue in the new zen update with natsumi
deft plinth
also update to v3 please
Yeah sure
torpid lily
looks fine for me, maybe use a brighter background or a different accent color
do you change theme color ?
covert quarry
Bruh Haze is wonderful 😍
hollow scarab
Victorovitch ! Love him ^^
hidden kernel
time to go back to working on unifier
mystic marsh
@hidden kernel Is only one supposed to be enabled at a time? If all three are enabled, which one will override the rest?
mystic marsh
but only enable one
Okay, wich one do your prefer out of these 3?
I'll choose that.
hidden kernel
choose any idc
dusky portal
natsumi v3 is HERE <a:yippee:1324367346026020956>
download: <https://github.com...
is this for macos only?
the media stuff in sidebar
hidden kernel
no
mystic marsh
/*context menu transparency*/
menupopup {
--panel-background: color-mix(in srgb, var(--zen-primary-color) 20%, black 70%) !important;
}
/*menu transparency*/
panel {
--panel-background: color-mix(in srgb, var(--zen-primary-color) 20%, black 70%) !important;
}
Menu transparency in Zen broke after application of Natsumi v3. I request to make it work as it actually syncs with the theme.
torpid lily
do you change theme color ?
hidden kernel
ye
hidden kernel
```
/*context menu transparency*/
menupopup {
--panel-background: color-mix(...
wont fix
i added my own accent color
without transparency tho since i didnt really want it
mystic marsh
without transparency tho since i didnt really want it
oh okay.
the entire theme is still 🔥
hidden kernel
Nothing changed compared to the beta release and stable right ?
there are some minor changes
like some extra styling for essentials
and bug fixes
sharp pumice
Oh ok
hidden kernel
but the overall design is pretty much identical
sharp pumice
hidden kernel
also this week is unifier week
which means
no natsumi work unless i gotta fix a bug
it will be natsumi week again in like two to three weeks
or earlier if my motivation runs dry for unifier
then ill work on natsumi while i recharge motivation
sharp pumice
did you somewhere change the default favidcon mr green?
random slate
Damn it goes hard with pineapple
rocky arrow
@hidden kernel how do i inspect pip i cant even with popup disabled
rocky arrow
also i wanted to ask did you also made the url bar likke that haze pip ?
rocky arrow
urlbar uses mistcrylic
can you share a screen shot of that with background that can show mistcrylic
hidden kernel
i mean this kind of shows it
rocky arrow
i mean this kind of shows it
is it not actually transluent?
rocky arrow
oo tysm
hidden kernel
np
fickle forge
Bruh Haze is wonderful 😍
where is this player used?
covert quarry
where is this player used?
Website? Twitch or youtube idk
hidden kernel
its the picture in picture view
rocky arrow
@hidden kernel have you tried applying haze on url floating bar during devlopment?
hidden kernel
prob
rocky arrow
i tried didnt suited well i though maybe i couldnt do it proplerly so i asked
hidden kernel
haze just isnt meant for stuff like the urlbar
torpid lily
looks fine for me, maybe use a brighter background or a different accent color
how do you make it green ,br
hidden kernel
workspace gradients
torpid lily
can you show me your color theme, @hidden kernel
hidden kernel
later
dusky portal
later
hey one question, if I wanted to use traditional RGB colors in natsumi rather than sliding around the circle thingy how would I do it?
rocky arrow
@hidden kernel does natsumi removes them or not
rocky arrow
you dont have any other css or mod affecting it right besides natsumi
sharp pumice
<@356456393491873795> does natsumi removes them or not
these are turned off by default now
rocky arrow
these are turned off by default now
can you tell which preference affects them
sharp pumice
can you tell which preference affects them
Add preference to hide one-off search buttons (off by default, zen.urlbar.hide-one-offs)
dusky portal
you dont have any other css or mod affecting it right besides natsumi
these are all the mods I use
rocky arrow
Add preference to hide one-off search buttons (off by default, zen.urlbar.hide-o...
still not showing for me
rocky arrow
still not showing for me
ah they appeared after restarting tysm
grizzled drift
Quick question.
How do I know what Browser configs (in about:config) I should use to get the most default settings on this theme?
Or I don't have to and will have it without touching about:config?
visual pond
natsumi v3 is HERE <a:yippee:1324367346026020956>
download: <https://github.com...
so to install v3
we need to install the zip directly
final sleet
<@356456393491873795> does natsumi removes them or not
zen removed them by default
this config☝️
dusky portal
How did you do that taskbar?
linux
dusky portal
We need the bar ... That looks sick
use hyprland
dapper lava
use hyprland
Was talking about the bar dots , nvm this is cluttering the thread
oblique girder
Damn, you've really cooked 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
karmic marlin
setup looks fire
slim prism
oblique girder
so to install v3
we need to install the zip directly
Yeah, then just chuck it in your profile's chrome folder
sharp pumice
this pill got wider after updating to 1.10.1b
mystic marsh
this pill got wider after updating to 1.10.1b
sharp pumice
ah ok thanks
mystic marsh
@hidden kernel Hey I had a suggestion for the new blades design on tabs. Can you make a feature just like what Vivaldi has to make the color of blades as per the accent color of the webpage's icon?
I believe it will actually look 🔥 on your theme with blades.
woeful mason
Is there any way to remove outline from essentials and workspaces and make selected tab more transparent and less pure black, something like Nebula?
hidden kernel
no
fleet fractal
Is there any way to remove outline from essentials and workspaces and make selec...
go to your chrome folder -> natsumi folder -> modules -> preload and scroll down to Material haze and change the settings to these
`` /* Material: Haze */
--natsumi-mat-hz-background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.2);
--natsumi-mat-hz-background-tinted: color-mix(in srgb, var(--natsumi-primary-color) 20%, rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.4));
--natsumi-mat-hz-blur-radius: 100px;
--natsumi-mat-hz-shadow-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3);
--natsumi-mat-hz-shadow-size: 10px;
--natsumi-mat-hz-saturation: 3;
--natsumi-mat-hz-contrast: 2;
@media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
--natsumi-mat-hz-background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2);
--natsumi-mat-hz-background-tinted: color-mix(in srgb, var(--natsumi-colors-secondary) 20%, rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4));
}``
hidden kernel
go to your chrome folder -> natsumi folder -> modules -> preload and scroll down...
can we just not change the materials
fleet fractal
works ig
i like transparency
he asked for more transparency
i help him get more transparency
final sleet
it just reproduces <@1080446210164391976>'s issue
this is at least visible
mine isn't
final sleet
go to your chrome folder -> natsumi folder -> modules -> preload and scroll down...
also i didn't touch this
hidden kernel
please dont touch materials before i archive the project unless youre modifying them to build something new using natsumi
like pf or nebula
final sleet
go to your chrome folder -> natsumi folder -> modules -> preload and scroll down...
played around with some of my css, and i love this. this is exactly what i am looking for
also is there any way get the workspace buttons back to normal?
hidden kernel
locked this thread while i write smth
hidden kernel
im sorry but it had to be done. i locked this thread so i could prepare this announcement in peace
after a long while of contemplating, i decided just taking back natsumi by continuing development privately would be the best thing for me. so that's what i'll be doing now. v3.0.1 is the final update for natsumi.
thank you for the support for all these months, and once again, i'm sorry.
https://www.greeeen.dev/natsumi-archived.html
please don't try to continue natsumi, let it rest
boreal finch
Thanks for the incredible work, Natsumi will hold a special place in the Zen themeing community memory 🙏
tribal turret
Appreciate your hard work fr
really thanks for making this theme and spending so much time just to make zen look fabulous.
hollow scarab
Firstly, I have to thank you for your awesome work, and for all the time and effort you spent on it. It really is marvelous ^^
But, now, I have to say what I think of the reason. My main point is this last sentence "Catering for a community that doesn't care about me at all even in the slightest bit " It really gives me the impression that you fell on the cognitive bias of negativism (Humans tends to concentrate more on critics and insults, than on praises [it is though that it was for surviving and evolutig])
What I mean, is that, here there was, and there are even now, people, the "community", who did "care about you", and showed some respect and general love for you and your work. It is false to proclaim that nobody does... But, again, it's an human bias.
I really hope, for you, that the future will bring you more happiness, joy, and mindfullness. I hope, too, that you will be able to work on identifying this bias, since it seems to hurt you so much (not a critic, I really think that identifying it could help you ^^)
Nice continuation, and my Natsumi Browser rest in his well gained peace.
hidden kernel
well it's hard especially when i grew up with critics and bullies all around me in school
and it just feels like the same way in here now especially after what i went through earlier talking with issue volunteers and contributors. thats when i finally snapped and lost all perception of "this community (zen) actually cares about me"
sure, not everyone was being an asshole but it was more than enough for me
will prob edit it tho i do tend to write weird stuff like that when im mentally struggling
restive pilot
I'll miss you.
I really like the design of natsumi.
good luck bro!
hoary kite
im sorry but it had to be done. i locked this thread so i could prepare this ann...
In respect to this theme, I also stopped using it to let it rest
sharp pumice
i will miss this wonderful pdf viewer
hidden kernel
i just hope i dont suddenly feel like taking this all back especially because i made this decision for myself and my health
hidden kernel
im closing the thread now, thank you all for your support. maybe once i feel safe working on stuff for the zen community again, i can consider returning, but it will likely be a long time till i consider that possibility, if ever.
for now, goodbye
hidden kernel
final sleet
im closing the thread now, thank you all for your support. maybe once i feel saf...
i look forward to this day. until then take care mr.green
sharp pumice
as long as the pdf viewer gets continued i am happy
rocky arrow
as long as the pdf viewer gets continued i am happy <:thx:1022539257400807535>
nah pip goat imo
rocky arrow
personally i like the pdf viewer more
i use pip more lol
hidden kernel
lmao
vestal falcon
@hidden kernel Zen has a new feature of collapsing the workspace indicator when it gets too large for the sidebar. I've attached a video showing it working
for some reason, natsumi v3 disables that
would it be possible to have it working?
ty!
vestal falcon
this video is on a fresh profile btw
hidden kernel
sure, i'll look into it
but for the future
please redirect such questions to github
hidden kernel
ill only accept small support queries in here from now, such as enabling/disabling a feature
vestal falcon
ohhh okay good to know!
i'll make a github issue rn
@hidden kernel i just wanted to say thank you so much for continuing work on Natsumi! It is truly an amazing skin, and I know how hard it can be facing the hundreds of insensitive requests or comments, so I really admire your change in policy while continuing to work on it!
hidden kernel
nah pip goat imo
but not gonna lie the pip viewer reminded me how much people loved the redesign (both v2 and v3)
and made me rethink my decision today
final sleet
<@356456393491873795> i just wanted to say thank you so much for continuing work...
same. natsumi is the single best zen skin. and i want to thank you for sharing it with us mr.green
austere raptor
hey this thread came back! Guess now's a good a time as any to say thank you for the work that went into natsumi. Continued development or not, your work helped inspire a whole lot of chrome designers. Was very sad to hear about the petty drama that was hurled your way. Hope you're processing it in a healthy manner. Stay safe and thanks for your work 🍻
distant oriole
Although i didn't try it before it was archived, i really felt sad that something that beautiful was gone, welcome back!!
hidden kernel
fake, that should be my gf not the pip viewer
in the end her support was the push i needed to regain motivation
final sleet
do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior @ripe rune
hidden kernel
you all sound like youre simping for her now
rocky arrow
you all sound like youre simping for her now
his line gave me third hand embarassment😭
hidden kernel
theres a line between appreciating her and simping for her so please be mindful 🙏
especially since she mine
final sleet
you all sound like youre simping for her now
worship not simp
big difference
people do not simp for ram, or jesus, or zeus
mystic marsh
I sincerely apologize if you got the wrong idea, Green. Your girl is always gonna be yours till the end. We just got so much respect it's just uncontrollable to express it!
final sleet
nah i shall preach
slim prism
ok this is weird bruh
hidden kernel
exactly
mystic marsh
ok this is weird bruh
I apologize, I remove that as well.
No intent to disrespect anyone.
hidden kernel
i just realized how different pip looks w/o natsumi
dusky portal
i just realized how different pip looks w/o natsumi
pimp your pip zen mod IG
dusky portal
no it isnt
No I mean it can make pip pretty kek
mystic marsh
No I mean it can make pip pretty kek
Not as much pretty as how Natsumi Browser CSS makes it.
hidden kernel
maybe but natsumi pip is better imho
-# (probably biased cuz i made natsumi lmao)
speaking of mods
the approval process of zen mods is pretty broken
hidden kernel
this is why ive been insisting on building my own theme store
based on how zen is being developed currently
the team's probably gonna focus less on zen mods as time goes by
shy fern
Yeah I'm getting the same feeling
hidden kernel
feels like the whole customization aspect is being overlooked now in the name of "optimizing for the majority"
shy fern
Yep. I definitely get optimizing for the majority but Im having the same concern with things like the hex colors option being removed by default
hidden kernel
exactly
honestly as one of the og zen users (since 1.0.0-20a i think), i do feel a bit "betrayed" especially since the customization was one of the main things that got me into using zen
probably not the right term but
it's the closest i could get
rocky arrow
Yep. I definitely get optimizing for the majority but Im having the same concern...
there is mod for it?
hidden kernel
this is why ive been insisting on building my own theme store
i might as well just do this actually im quite bored rn
rocky arrow
cause still i have it
hidden kernel
there is mod for it?
its a config
rocky arrow
its a config
yea
mystic marsh
cause still i have it
I enabled it with a code and sidebar UI got deranged. Disabled it and all was back to normal.
shy fern
honestly as one of the og zen users (since 1.0.0-20a i think), i do feel a bit "...
I think I joined around 1.0.1-a? And yeah, customization is what brought me here too
Hopefully it turns around a little
hidden kernel
guess im the boomer here
final sleet
honestly as one of the og zen users (since 1.0.0-20a i think), i do feel a bit "...
i dont remember when, but i joined because it was like arc built on firefox, so it would be more secure. i fully switched when arc got abandoned, and i am now flying down this customization rabbit hole (best decision ever)
shy fern
I had never heard of arc before getting involved here haha
mystic marsh
Will tab groups in natsumi reintroduced? It used to be there in earlier version as far as I can remember...
shy fern
it was removed because tab groups generally are extremely buggy and shouldnt be used right now, and because green felt people werent adequately appreciating the person who wrote the code for them
we're gonna be getting them natively pretty soon though
low prairie
~~guess im the boomer here~~
What made you open source it now?
vestal falcon
@hidden kernel thanks for the 3.0.2 update! The pip definitly got fixed, but I still don't see the collapsing workspace. Is there something in about:config that i need to change?
vestal falcon
patches has a workspace button width set to auto, but i'm not familar enough with the css to know if that's causing it to not be fixed
vestal falcon
so just remove this?:
#1088172782178799657-workspaces-button {
container-type: initial !important;
width: auto !important;
.subviewbutton {
min-width: 24px !important;
}
}
that fixed it! tysm
balmy sparrow
why does it look glitches?
hidden kernel
firefox rendering issue
balmy sparrow
any way to fix it?
hidden kernel
not rn
hidden kernel
worship not simp
also regarding this
please dont worship her like she's some kind of goddess
crazy how you have the audacity to act like that right in front of me
hidden kernel
what happened?
some people were worshipping/simping for u...right in front of me
hidden kernel
yes :D
hidden kernel
also u finally put the thread back :D
wait darling i got an idea-
check ur nickname-
@hidden kernel and @ripe rune
ripe rune
Im ur wife now ❤️
hidden kernel
and im ur husband now ❤️
ripe rune
Can't wait to see how natsumi will go throughout the process, looking forward into it so keep up the good work. Im always proud ^^
mystic marsh
Congratulations, Mr. & Mrs. Green! 🎉
final sleet
please dont worship her like she's some kind of goddess
i mean she did bring back natsumi, but alright
final sleet
crazy how you have the audacity to act like that right in front of me
im just having fun man. im just happy that natsumi is back, but il stop now
final sleet
what exactly does margin-less compact mode do
distant oriole
.
rocky arrow
@hidden kernel how can i inspect library?
hidden kernel
did i not show you how to inspect pip
rocky arrow
did i not show you how to inspect pip
btw you tried making this? arc library?
actually i tried but it goes into js territory
hidden kernel
yep
final sleet
in full screen mode?
spare storm
compact mode
Sick mod. The only thing im not a fan of is the url bar minimzing again - what should i change in the css to fix that?
When not active
vestal knoll
Thanks for coming back. Appreciate all the great work in this.
mystic marsh
Green, is top side suppose to still have margins even after enabling natsumi.theme.compact-marginless?
hidden kernel
might wanna enable natsumi.theme.compact-marginless-hide-bookmarks