diablo-4

[blazing moon]

Its what they said at exile con. Two independant teams

3 Month leagues for each game staggered by 50%.

[iron jacinth]

We've gotten alot of feedback, and the site is better then ever.
Affixes were fixed, performance was upgraded and OCR (reading from a screenshot is in development) - soon™
If you got a few minutes, let us know what you want to see next 🙂
https://d4trades.io/

[blazing moon]

This is actually pretty nice. Something QOL when we select affix an affix can you have the cursor auto go to the next affix to type out when we hit enter or mouse click?

I type faster than click so might be a good QOL feature.

[iron jacinth]

Great feedback, sounds like a no-downside QoL, gonna have a look into it and implement it on the next patch 🙂
Thank you!

[regal pond]

100,000 steps appears to be decent now!

which is a major improvement over absolute trash

oh my gosh they snuck an additional stash tab into this patch

[solemn flame]

1.1.1 or whatever it is? didn't they say the were giving us 1? did they end up giving us 2?

[regal pond]

i thought they just said they were working on it

if they said we were getting 1 then they did that

[solemn flame]

i'm pretty sure did say something along the line of "we know about stash space, we're working on it and in the upcoming patch we're giving you 1 then"

[blazing moon]

Just one.

[signal aurora]

do we really need a news post for every line in the patch notes

[barren zenith]

hey as flurry rogue does the dps of my ranged weapon or sword factor in at all to my dmg calc

[distant mortar]

I might be a dumb person but ..
How is the progress on this season works ? Only completing the journey season challenges ?

[severe anchor]

For the battlepass tou can just level up by mobs. For the season line, you need to do the challenges yes

[iron jacinth]

We went a step further, what do you think of this lil showcase? 🙂

[blazing moon]

That is hot af.

Does it detect multi line affixes?

[iron jacinth]

Which ones do you mean, by multi line?

I mean the short answer is definitely yes, it is working with all the 300+ affixes, but im curious which specifically you mean ^_^

The worst ones are the ones that have % in the middle. Like
Skeleton warriors inherit [x%} of your Thorns etc etc

[blazing moon]

Things like “+ increased Shadow damage” damage to crowd controlled

[iron jacinth]

Oh yeah, definitely
You can already see 1 multi line on the showcase
% Damage reduction while Injured - its technically in 2 lines and it also knows the next one is MS.
It's not a triple line as your example, but yiss sir

And the best part is, this system is scalable, since it doesnt use limited API requests from 3rd parties, there are some better performing ones, but their limit is atrocious and in the event you get a spike of people, you cap out the requests almost immediately 🙂

[blazing moon]

That’s dope man!

[blazing moon]

Do you have a go live planned?

Also would be dope to log each item in a database and release graphs like “most common affixes and items”

If you have a go live date I can do some work in the D4 discord to get it in front of the admins. 500k of the most active users.

Might want to look into consoles being able to use it. So mobile support?

[iron jacinth]

Yeah, it's a few days away.
That would be simply amazing, words cannot describe it 🙂
I like the graphs idea, already put it as a task
Mobile is .. decent, we are still tweaking it a bit. But thats a really good point, i'll have one of our bois test it on his ps5 and see what can be done to improve the experience.

[blazing moon]

Okay. Give me a go live date and I can get it infront of the discord admins of the D4 discord and I can get it to other content creators like Macrobioboi and stuff.

[iron jacinth]

Simply amazing. I'll get back to you later today with all the information - so it's confirmed

[blazing moon]

I assume log in with BNet?

Dope.

[iron jacinth]

Currently Discord & Bnet are supported - both.

[blazing moon]

I would make sure you can check if their Bnet is attached to their discord. Anti-scam

[iron jacinth]

We have something similar in the works, since we realise what an important part Anti-scam precautions are.
We are limited by access of course, but noted - will explore this avenue as well.

[iron jacinth]

i'll send ya a DM with the information.

[blazing moon]

Thanks!

[steady dust]

650 Sacred Unique 2h vs 712 Legenday 1h

[main eagle]

Lol. Wowhead finally did an article on this XD

[blazing moon]

We knew about it but wasnt really a concern tbh.

[main eagle]

:3 I still find it funny

[junior bolt]

D4 Season 2 when?

[wild canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-wide-eye-kids-what-confused-gif-13791024

[solemn flame]

uhh....oct 13th i think?

no wait 15th?

[blazing moon]

17th

[earnest lava]

Did diablo 4 have maintenance downtime for season 1?

[main eagle]

18th XD of October

[junior bolt]

So uh

Anyone still playing?

[solemn flame]

3 more levels struggling through the BP cause it’s boring 😦

[broken valve]

Couldn't get into season 1. I actually started to feel sleepy when playing. Not sure it's the aesthetic.. the loot.. camera.. gameplay.. can't pin point it.

Hoping season 2 brings some much need improvement

[regal pond]

gem shards is the weirdest way to handle gem drops

but i guess it works

[solemn flame]

i think it's the best way to handle gems. no more having to trade up and clean out old ones when you move up you just craft the ones you need/want and socket them

[regal pond]

yeah its smart

just not what i think of

and doesnt remove the ones we currently have

would be nice to be able to shard existing gems

[solemn flame]

huh, weird. well i guess it wont matter too much for the next seasonal characters and it wont matter for current characters cause youd likely already have your top gems you needed

[hollow nebula]

Gonna see another bombardment of negative reviews

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2344520/Diablo_IV/

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[blazing moon]

Generally speaking the Season 2 preview shown alot of general QOL improvements that would pretty much correct any issues players had. Even down to 40% quicker leveling to 100. If anything it would be mixed review to slightly positive.

If Season 2 effectively corrects the base game it would be generally positive.

[regal pond]

They need to fix itemization

Uniques don’t feel like a consistent upgrade and rares have too large of an affix pool to be decent

They need to limit each piece of gear to specific affixes outside of stats and armor and that way you can target specific gear slots for specific affixes

I know they sort of do that now, but each piece of gear has too many overall affixes to make that particularly viable

[severe anchor]

we will be getting some updates on this on the 10th.

[severe anchor]

it does feel way more variable than some of the preivous diablos

[regal pond]

It’s because of the enormous affix pools - resists, +passives, stats, crit/vuln/slow etc

[severe anchor]

indeed

[regal pond]

If they for example limited different resists to different types of jewelry and fully removed it from armor, and they made groups of +passives limited to different armor slots and for example, guaranteed certain affixes on certain base types, it would help a lot

[pseudo coyote]

This. I stopped playing when I realized Werebear was going to be barely viable if at all without a unique legendary I just had to grind for. And then add seasonal resets to that? No thanks

[severe anchor]

all unqiues will be target farmable now

[regal pond]

"Crafted Gems can be Salvaged back into Gem Fragments at a Jeweler."

this is what i was hoping was the case

thank goodness

i dont like this though....

😦

"Spider Hosts, Bloated Corpsefiends, and Fly Hosts will no longer spawn with the Fire Enchanted or Plaguebearer affixes." - god tier change

"Ghost monsters have received a visual upgrade." - i wonder what this means

Are helltides good now?

oh dang, capping resists will be EASY now

or at least reasonably doable

"The effect of the Death's Defense passive, which prevents Necromancer minions from taking more than 30% of their maximum Life in damage in one hit with all points allocated to it, has now been made an inherit attribute for all summons (The Necromancer’s Minions and Druid’s Companions). " - cant believe this is hidden under Miscellaneous

dang i love these barb changes

my upheaval/rupture build got super buffed

Necro buffs are also amazing!

so many minion buffs

[solemn flame]

Yeah I might do necro for season 2 even tho preseason I did necro

[blazing moon]

[regal pond]

you have your own emote?

wow

i should do that on my server XD

all i have are a bunch of pokemon

and some D&D specific ones that wont make sense

[blazing moon]

Ha yeah i have my own emote. But the Bone Necro changes are literally the worst they couldve done.

[severe anchor]

yup its excessive how badly the nerfed some aspects of the bone build

[earnest lava]

Has there ever been scheduled maintenance where diablo 4 was offline fully?

[regal pond]

yeah - the ones before seasons and major updates

its an online only game

[earnest lava]

That is kinda dumb imo, considering they don't call it an mmo

[regal pond]

games dont need to be mmos to be online

[earnest lava]

So why put an o on mmo

[regal pond]

all online games arent mmos

you arent reading what i wrote

[earnest lava]

Is it not multi-player though?

[earnest lava]

an online video game which can be played by a very large number of people simultaneously

Pretty sure that is exactly what diablo 4 is

[regal pond]

mo maybe

one of the ms is for massively

idk

i dont think you can see more than 24 at once

[rare jackal]

Hows s2? Worth re-installing or no?

[earnest lava]

Delayed so not out yet.

[solemn flame]

hey they gave us 2 more character slots too! look at that

[blazing moon]

The answer is yes. Season 2 is great

[regal pond]

this season is fun af

holy moly - the blood harvests just drop tons of loot

its SO awesome

plus theyre also whispers

[leaden mortar]

So for some reason i am able to skip the campaign this season without Ever completing it...

[leaden mortar]

But no horse

[regal pond]

thats part of patch 1.2

[regal pond]

also makes sense

mount is a campaign reward and isnt required for the seasonal stuff to work

[leaden mortar]

i see

[unborn mauve]

can you still do the previous season questline or that's also gone?

[solemn flame]

That’s gone as are those seasonal gems and abilities

[unborn mauve]

ok!

[narrow talon]

What you think would be a good way to integrate seasons into the eternal realm

[leaden mortar]

Neat, unlocked mount w/o the campaign

[unborn mauve]

😮

[fringe quarry]

Should I try season 2? I never reached lvl 100

And not too smart about all the different builds. Any recommendations on class/builds ?

[blazing moon]

Yes.

[woven sand]

Yes, I did also not reach 100 in Pre or s1 but now in s2 I did and I keep playing. Pick sorc

[quasi sentinel]

Oh you completely uninstalled it? 🤣

[unborn mauve]

Did they open up the season for everyone? I didn't complete the campaign yet but i got a message when making a new character that it opened up for me. 🤔

[solemn flame]

seasons weren't ever locked? you just couldn't choose the skip the campaign before but in season 2 they are letting you skip needing to do the campaign to skip it.

[unborn mauve]

ah, it's only the skipping part that needs completion

tought you couldn't start a season if you didn't complete the campaign first

Hmm, i just arrived in the first major town on my "main" (non-season), isn't it more interesting to start a new character in the season then?

[solemn flame]

there's more to do (the seasonal stuff)

[unborn mauve]

but i will see the campaign first even if i start seasonal? i don't want some mixups in the story

[regal pond]

yes - you wont see season story until after you complete the campaign

unless you skip the campaign

but you can still make progress on the season journey

[unborn mauve]

so there is actually no reason to not start in season

[regal pond]

Exactly

[unborn mauve]

hmhm, i will only have to redo a small part of the campaign then

thx Peach

[solemn venture]

accidently made drogo from game of thrones

[fringe quarry]

This one will die to infections and poison dots many times too kek

[scenic mural]

Quick question ... is there any reason to complete the season 2 quest line (except the the first or second mission to unlock vampiric powers) ?

[regal pond]

Pretty sure it’s part of the season journey

[solemn flame]

Yeah, there a few powers locked behind the like 5/6 seasonal quests

[lone mountain]

"we want to make upgrading items more interesting, and we want to enhance crafting and modifying items. So, when we think about a Loot Filter, we want to prioritize enhancing Itemization first."

Damn, that is impressive. 1 developer programming itemization and none left for a filter lol

[regal pond]

its more that you cant program a filter if you are significantly changing itemization b/c you dont have a base to work off of

if you tell me to change the frosting on a cake, but im now making cookies instead, i should wait before talking more about decorating the pastries

[lone mountain]

that is true. I guess they also want to add a friendly filter vs some sort of text file where you use crazy stuff in and make your own too haha

[patent igloo]

Where y’all at

[severe anchor]

right here

[bright field]

👋

[patent igloo]

People

Hiii

[severe anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-whale-there-hi-gif-5551502

[golden spire]

Is there a #latest-news channel, but just for Diablo IV? Can't find one from the channel list.

[long heath]

@severe anchor I'm following ur Pentadot. I have a focus with stats(crit chance, lucky hit, lucky hit barrier,cooldown reduction). I'm using sacrilegious + XFal. Should I use lidless and drop sacrilegious for normal ring with crit chance and lucky hit or still keep sacrilegious but have to drop aspect. Which is better?

[severe anchor]

Lidless is going to be your best bet for dungeons but focus is really good for bosses

[twin grove]

Hey there Everyone! I just started playing Diablo IV and play about 1-2 hours a day. Think it is still worth purchasing the season pass since we are already so far into it?

[blazing moon]

Sure, season ends in like 5-6 weeks.

[twin grove]

Thanks! I figured I could just play and see how far I get or play first then decide in a week or so

[regal pond]

I wouldn’t buy the pass tbh

You can grind for free and see how far you get before buying the pass

That way if you don’t get that far, you aren’t wasting money

[wanton summit]

what is the websiute that tells u what to uppgrade everytime u lvl up?

[twin grove]

Thanks!!!

[solemn flame]

The grind isn’t nearly as bad as it was in season 1. But yeah I’d see how far you get on the free track before you buy the premium one pass

[wanton summit]

ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FICX

how tof ixc

plz

[blazing moon]

Reinstall d4

[twin grove]

best bet

[wanton summit]

hello does anyone know the link 4 the website that tells u which skill tree to upgrade for rogue

[twin grove]

https://hardcoregamer.com/db/d4/d4-best-rogue-builds-in-diablo-4/450521/

i just googled it, I didn't realize that was for season 1.

[wanton summit]

oh oka ythx

does yt build guides work?

like i can just take one there

[blazing moon]

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/classes/endgame-tier-list

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/classes/rogue/toxic-shock-aoz-companion-guide

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/classes/rogue/shadow-twisting-blades-build-overview

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/classes/rogue/rogue-2-0-companion-guide

Theres all of the wowhead S tier build guides

[wanton summit]

thank uu!

[wanton summit]

how do i get more max potion slots

these ones

i only have 4 atm

im lvl 40

[twin grove]

That might be all that you can have

[blazing moon]

Renown and pant affix

[wanton summit]

oh where

[blazing moon]

What do you mean where?

YOu get a max of 9 with full renown

Then +4 with a max roll potion affix on pants

Totaling 13

[wanton summit]

oh so i need armor with potion sockets

[wanton summit]

anyone know what these dp

do

i have many

[desert vale]

Right click and they open, will give you crafting materials

[wanton summit]

oh okay thx

[zenith mulch]

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/classes/necromancer/sever-build-bis-gear-uniques-legendary-aspects#best-in-slot-gearing I have some questions regarding the best affixes for items on this build. for rings is one supposed to be crit strike chance? or can you double roll damage? and then for gear that has 5 affixes (torso, head, neck), are they in order of best to worst? so the first 4 are the preferred but 5th is an option too?

[junior bolt]

Anyone play D4 season 2? I got too busy with the holidays. I see S3 is coming Jan 28th

[wanton canopy]

I played it for a few wks and then got bored lol .. I'll be playing again when S3 releases tho

[blazing moon]

Sorry for not replying sooner, yes generally speaking any combination of them works since every damage affixes are additive damage since the season 2 damage bucket change.

[tawdry copper]

Webhook is not working as it should be , showing the wrong World Boss and sometimes doesn’t even pop up 1h before it spawns

[round sparrow]

please repost the message here #wowhead-feedback-support

[tawdry copper]

Ok , sorry sending that message in the wrong channel

[candid crater]

Hey all, the Vaults are really getting to me. What exactly is the point of them? Are there any special rewards or just exact legendary drops or something?

[rain chasm]

levelling up your robot pet guy

[candid crater]

by leveling, you mean increasing the level of the tablets?

[rain chasm]

Yeh

Makes the lil guy stronger

[crystal heath]

both glyphs and stones for the pet
it's like running NMdungeons but the vaults 🙂

[thin vessel]

This section is not to active unfortunately

[junior bolt]

Any Necros with advise on leveling to 100? Right now I’m just doing the whispers and nightmare

I’m also just being slow and lazy running a full minion build, seems like at 100 bonespear is BIG DMG

[unborn mauve]

i'm a 23 necro :p so sorry

oh, this is a bit late!

i like my minions ❤️

[oak drift]

the new season of d4 minion builds will actually be viable.

[full ridge]

Only lvl 63 necro myself but heard alot about bone spear is it worth a build around?

[junior bolt]

You gotta pick between bloodsurge or bonespear build

Bloodsurge is great aoe

Bonespear is great bossing

[junior bolt]

Once you hit 50 then review to the end game boss guides for 50-100 and level via the world boss/ nightmare dungeons / helltides

I switched to bloodsurge as it’s more sustainable and higher defense even with a 2H

For ultimate defense shield and wand for quick attacks

and just pick any affix that gives essence back as this is the weakest spot for either build

once you get passed 75 you can drop curses unless you need the defense for progression fights and put more points into essence talents or for CE

Once you get all your stones for the seneschal you can drop extra points out of CT

[fringe quarry]

Giving S4 a try, if not? Eh whatever.

[patent socket]

does anyone know what the white symbol means behind item name? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891507626423255071/1240313462069006346/image.png?ex=66461b6d&is=6644c9ed&hm=f92535661f8fd04e791d5b5c0db59296655637a41c1aa56864e1aa320dfe34f8&

[solemn flame]

pretty sure it's to show that if you break it down it will be an upgrade for your current aspect collection or a new one

[patent socket]

but the same symbol is at the max health affix

tempering maybe?

[solemn flame]

and you already have that one in your book?

i've tempered my items and none of them have that symbol. although it could be masterwork tempering, i haven't gotten that far yet

[patent socket]

its a screenshot of a friend cause he asked me and i had no answer for him. He said this symbol was on the item since drop... so he has nothing changed on it

[solemn flame]

oh it must be the masterwork symbol? there's a stat listed on the item with the same marker?

[regal pond]

thats a greater affix

@patent socket

it means its at a higher tier

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/what-are-greater-affixes-diablo-4-season-4-338220

[solemn flame]

OH NEATO

[patent socket]

can anyone explain me why i have +75% more dmg for golem on the right weapon?
i mean... its 170% vs. 190% o.O

[red steppe]

sigh

azurewrath dropped on my level 20 necro

my 100 barb hasnt gotten shit lol

[west berry]

can some1 carry Uber Lillith?

[regal pond]

<@&299347348847329281>

[stuck crest]

einer hier der mir mit lillith helfen könnte ? bitte
offer 3 duriel runs 😄 JoKeR#21686

[regal pond]

This channel is English only - there may be a non-English channel in the channel list

[unborn mauve]

(continuation of #retail-wow message)

yeah, I hear it's relative repetitive

i still need to complete the original campaign 🥲

can't manage to get to it, tough the story seems cool

but i always like to watch the trailers

or cinematics, or...

[oak drift]

where do i get my free dog

[unborn mauve]

haha ^^ 😄

[regal pond]

i wonder what the plan is for XP/Leveling in the expac

[autumn spire]

Probably mindless killing sprees

[lone mountain]

yuck D4 looks ugly. I should ask for a refund.

[rain chasm]

We'll see soon but I don't actually expect new 'levels'. Instead I think there'll be ilvl increase, glyph max level increase, and world tier 5

Item power/ilvl might jump to like 1275 or something

[plush mulch]

I haven't played D4 since S2. Is it a good time to get back in? It seems so much has changed

[leaden wedge]

Well, the season is ~2/3rds over, but the massive itemization and Helltide changes (among others) have been GREAT! The game feels very different now; give it a try with the idea of committing to season 5 if you like what you experience!

[exotic spruce]

It's a fun season

[plush mulch]

Thank you

Im knee deep in WoW but keep hearing things about how much the game has gotten better. Maybe I'll commit to Vessel of Hatred

[exotic spruce]

Why commit? Play what you find fun, or don't. Videogames are all about having fun at the end of the day

[plush mulch]

true that

i guess maybe not commit but try D4 again with Vessel

i really love the story of diablo and thats something that always brings me back

[solemn flame]

isn't VoH starting with S6? so why wait two more season. just try it now S4 is infinitely better than launch

[plush mulch]

I believe so, for me it’s just finding time right now lol. IRL is really busy and still trying to get things done in WoW before I get into anything else

[lyric wigeon]

Hi. I’m playing the wow Bash Barb and wonder if there’s any value in damage over time affix on the weapons. I have a couple GA DoT weapons. Is bleeding considered DoT and is that better than +crit damage affix?

[rain chasm]

The game has gotten a lot better. S4 was fun. Unfortunately S5 seems to be completely broken (at least it was on PTR). Hopefully they can fix it before it starts, but if not I'd advise waiting until VoH

S5 will be quite short anyway

[rain chasm]

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/exclusive-diablo-4-season-5-changes-preview-from-rob2628-345199#comments

[lone mountain]

how do I report spammer on youtube 😛

I guess their all pre-recorded.

[regal pond]

you should share the details in #wowhead-feedback-support so the team can write an article

[raw rain]

apparently an article is being wrote, so il delete my message for now 😄

[north quiver]

season tomorrow 7 pm cest?!?!?!?!

[lone mountain]

This is cool: https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/womens-race-to-world-first-100-in-diablo-4-season-5-with-aoelena-annacakelive-345659

Sadly my wife plays mostly D3

[fringe quarry]

They disabled comments

[bronze plover]

Theres gonna be a reason xD

[lone mountain]

their sadly unwilling to sit there all day banning people lol

[fringe quarry]

OOF, that bad ?

[lone mountain]

it was bad before covid for some posts, etc. But things have hit the fan since covid. People think their allowed to say or do anything on the Internet without consequences and it's becoming harder and harder for sites to maintain some sanity.

[fringe quarry]

Yeah, i've read the whiny posts on MMO Champion, and know Wowhead's comment sections can be just as toxic and mental.

[grand sage]

anyone open to giving a hand to a newby barb? xD

[deep tulip]

lmao....didnt even click the offer that spawns the burning butcher and i end up with 2 spawning

[pastel schooner]

lol

[night ridge]

I really loved playing through d4 story. Messed around in season 1. Then stopped. I just hate making new characters all the time. Like I don't want to start back at level 1 again. I wanna play again but just can't get over the hurdle of restarting a char every season

Am I missing something?

[robust ravine]

I only ever play one character. Same with WoW. No time to dedicate to alts and I like maxing out my 'main' as best as I can

[night ridge]

@robust ravine same

But when new stuff comes out, you can't play that same character in d4. That's what gets me

[robust ravine]

I did not know that. I was contemplating leveling a new character in the new expansion. I guess now I would need to

[lone mountain]

BTW D4 Free weekend on steam.

[raw rain]

only thing I'd assume you might be missing is just how easy it is to level now, you can basically do 1-100 in a day. its a VERY different beast then it was earlier in the games lifespan

[night ridge]

TRUE

i think because ive only ever mained one character in wow for what feels like 2 decades, i have a hard time commiting to one character for a few months

[regal pond]

So - the changes coming with the expansion seem AMAZING

Im honestly expecting them to have more expansions after this one since theyre doing a level squish

unlike D3 where we just got the one expansion

[rain chasm]

I believe they said they wanted to do yearly expansions. I don't know if that'll hold up, but the intent is definitely to have multiple. I believe two expansions including VoH were already in development when D4 was in beta early last year

I could see them doing 3-4 expansions at least, maybe more, depending on the games lifecycle

[hearty raven]

I am also super excited about all of the changes coming to D4 soon. PTR is this wednesday, and I can't wait to get in and start testing!

[regal pond]

im gonna hold off until launch

but im excited

[proven lodge]

can someone pls reconfirm what happens in Diablo 4 eternal server 3ga mythics? they gonna convert to new max lvl 800? or as per campfire notes to lvl 540? thx in advance

[regal pond]

everything pre-2.0 will be 540

period

no exceptions

[proven lodge]

thx @regal pond appreciate the reply

[rain chasm]

Converting to 540

[proven lodge]

thx @rain chasm

[half granite]

hello

does anyone play or like this game that hasn't played part 1/2?

[regal pond]

what do you mean part 1 and 2?

[lucid pike]

it's a solid game that is good to play even if you haven't followed the story or played other versions

I couldn't attest to story, as I am a skip guy

[exotic spruce]

The story of 1 & 2 didn't really get ironed out until 3

[lucid pike]

I play with the opinion of ... "there's a story?"

always figured there was one, couldn't tell you the first thing about it though lol

[exotic spruce]

3 & 4 more "cement" and fully canonize events that occurred during 1 & 2

So, personally, as a person who has played 1 & 2, you don't need to play 1 or 2 to understand or appreciate the story of 3 or 4

[lucid pike]

nice perspective to add

[ruby mica]

what up fellow old head, nulcearkooter here reporting for duty!

[pseudo marsh]

Ready for s6 and expac bab6!

[sand ivy]

Will there be a blogpost about the datamined stuff from the preload?

[rain chasm]

People seem to have been lazy about it, but the ptr contained virtually all the 2.0 content in the files so I'm not sure there will be much new stuff with the preload version

I'm checking in datamining server atm

[sand ivy]

Was thinking about the new stats and balancing changes not about the new stuff

But I mean we are getting the patch notes tomorrow anyways

[rain chasm]

Ah yeh, nothing yet but will let you know if I find anything

Hopefully they made some big improvements balance wise since ptr

Torment 3 and 4 were way too easy, and DMG numbers were still way too high even though they did the squish

[sand ivy]

Yeah, it will be interesting to see what changes the runes got.

[rain chasm]

Yeh only a couple of runes were worth it really

Mostly shouts lmao

[sand ivy]

yes had the same experience with WT3 and 4

[rain chasm]

Now every class can be as boring as barb :p

I am very excited for the expansion, just hope theu tweaked numbers a lot since ptr

[sand ivy]

Also I hope the stat squish will be seen across all the difficulties and not only till lvl 50

after lvl 50 I felt the numbers where just going insane high

[regal pond]

Solid chance a lot of the preload may be encrypted idk

[rain chasm]

The ptr expansion stuff wasn't so I'm not sure it would be

[silent sand]

someone on reddit said the preload is encrypted. https://old.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1ftpcts/will_the_voh_preinstall_be_datamined/

[north quiver]

OMG THEY WILL BE ADDING THE ARMORY

NO WAY

[lucid pike]

they have been saying it for quite a while, but they have explained now a little more why they are delaying it

[north quiver]

I HEARD ITS COMING THIS DLC

sometime after release

[north quiver]

less than 3 days gg

I think we will be able to skip the story as well

huge W

[rain chasm]

nope

you need to complete the campaign once. you can skip it on alts

[north quiver]

nah u capping

i am telling my mom to play it then

cuz i sure wont

i am good after the vanilla campaign

[rain chasm]

story is good though

[north quiver]

if u say so

[regal pond]

why even buy the dlc at that point? the content is like 90% story

[north quiver]

new content + paragon points + diablo 2 zone

• new class + new mobs + reworked gauntlet + raid

[north quiver]

||Mephisto's new look disappoints me ):||

[rain chasm]

While I agree its silly to want to skip the story, this isn't really true. There's a huge amount coming behind the campaign (class, mercenaries, runes, new zone, undércity gauntlet, the coop "raid")

*beyond not behind

[lucid pike]

There's a story? Skip!

[north quiver]

Yeah cuz the vanilla campaign was the worst Diablo campaign i have ever played

I have 0 faith in this one

[lucid pike]

diablo in general has nothing interesting for a story. But I don't play for story.

[north quiver]

Then why do u care?

also wrong, I think D1 and D2 are peak

[lucid pike]

just as you said, there is plenty of reason to get the expansion besides story. You state good reasons then question why someone agrees?

[north quiver]

I mean... sure my bad i guess

Not sure about the raid thingy, my friend is quite busy and I dont like playing with randoms, but oh well

[plush mulch]

Personally I like the story of Diablo 4. Maybe I’m just a vanilla person but it kept me entertained

[rain chasm]

Nah it was pretty good you're right

[plush mulch]

Debating on purchasing VoH and jump back in. But my limited time is dedicated to WoW atm. I basically get two maybe three short evenings a week. I dropped out after season 2 because the game was just in a bad place and I didn’t like it much. But all the improvements look so good.

[regal pond]

So VoH launches tonight right?

[rain chasm]

In 2 and half hours yeh

[regal pond]

Awesome. I won’t be home until later but I’m excited to play it

[regal pond]

Oh no! It’s delayed. I’ll be home by 8pm PST. I hope it’s ready by then

[slow oriole]

does D4 have paladin or crusader?

[solemn flame]

No

[slow oriole]

:(

[regal pond]

Boy am I glad I took longer to get home

[regal pond]

Other than the 1 BSOD I got early on, enjoying it a lot - visuals are great, voice acting is great, spiritborn is fun af

[solemn flame]

Which aspect did you pick? I wanna pick it up but with the storm coming and tonight being raid night I decided to hold off for now

[regal pond]

Mostly Jaguar

But I took the gorilla ultimate and quills

Honestly everything seems cool

[solemn flame]

i wanna do the centipede or whatever it is

[past tusk]

is the seasonal event broken for anyone else

i like the eagle ultimate for spiritborn

just a big area of damage with a cool animation

[vast raven]

Does anyone have patch notes for the patch this morning?

[north quiver]

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO THE IRON WOLVES

WHY ARE THEY YELLOW NOW

?????????

THEY WERE RED LAST SEASON

AS THEY SHOULD BE

[normal sentinel]

Level 60 🙂

[past tusk]

I'm playing on expert at level 50 rn, and my quill build is legit like only tickling for spiritborn

not sure what build..

thinking maybe centipede

or gorilla

both probably good at mitigating vampiric

[regal pond]

I’m using an eagle jaguar blend

Having a blast because it mixes applying vulnerability with high attack speed

[regal pond]

first unique of the season and i cant use it....

[past tusk]

anyone yaxtecmaxxing

[past tusk]

it's so good

as is embracing the centipede god

[gritty jasper]

Heyo, what would be the best way to farm boss mats? o:

[swift kindle]

Killing stuff

[gritty jasper]

Figured it out

[swift kindle]

gj buddy

[tender hill]

Can someone explain to me how the paragon board tool works?

I figured out the red circles are the nodes next to the nodes you've selected, but what are the blue boxes?

[leaden wedge]

The blue boxes are the nodes that match the stat requirement for the socketed glyph. They're there to help you plan efficient routes that include the required stat amounts.

[tender hill]

gotcha

was confusing because if you look at the build guides, some selected nodes are in a blue box, but most aren't

[craggy spire]

I just started playing Diablo 4. I was curious: is there a guild system or something ingame? I’ve basically been playing solo for a few days and not really found a way to find “communities”

[regal pond]

Clans I think? Not sure about finding them though

[unborn mauve]

there sure are, but i don't know by head how to get to them

[leaden wedge]

Here's some information about Clans in d4: https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/gameplay/clans Just hit N anywhere to open the Clan screen to search for a Clan to join. You might also try just asking in the Trade channel (which is the de facto general chat in d4) for any clans that are accepting players.

[still niche]

Anyone looking for players? I need some folks to play with

[glad surge]

Can anyone tell me why, when i salvage items, my codex does not update? I found tons of items with high rolls, salvadged them, but no updat to the codex...

[hearty raven]

Hey! You're likely encountering the fact that non-Ancestral items can only upgrade to a certain level (most of the time 16 out of 21 as the max)

[regal pond]

Or it’s not actually an upgrade

[hearty raven]

You'll need to find Ancestrals with your ideal aspect to get beyond that threshold

[hearty raven]

Or this

[lucid pike]

it's only an upgrade if it has the white symbol on it when you are at a vendor

[raw rain]

most likely you've found something like a neck or two hander. the value displayed might APPEAR to be higher then your max roll, but remember that weapons get a x2 bonus from the aspect, while necks get x 1.5, So if you have a 45/50, it might say 90/100 on the item, but that is the same 45/50 but has just benefitted from the 2h bonus

[glad surge]

Thank you 🥰

[lucid pike]

also a really important point

[sharp trench]

Hello guys i just bought the diablo 4 and the dlc and i played a lot of d3 and where do i can find some good builds to level or to end game or at least to start ?

[leaden wedge]

The best place to start is the Tier Lists: https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/guide/classes/tier-list-overview

[wanton summit]

Wherre can i find the best dps sorcerer build

[storm quail]

What's the biggest tip for stopping cutscenes stuttering?

[proud hatch]

Are you on pc or console?

[storm quail]

PC

Didn't think my computer was that weak but every cutscene lags every time the frame swaps

Or shot rather

[regal pond]

Close background programs and make sure you’re not using the HD textures

[storm quail]

I didn't download the hd textures.

I'll try the background programs I guess. I just don't get how the cutscenes are so poorly encoded.

[tepid nexus]

Hello

Is Leah demon?

[summer hare]

I have the potion Distilled Fear to summon a boss, but I can't find the hell, can you please help me?

[jolly latch]

Is the game dead? What is the general consensus of the paid expansion?

[regal pond]

People like it, ending is a bit disappointing but will likely be expanded upon later. Lots of people playing

Content and endgame is good

@jolly latch

[jolly latch]

Do you think it’s a better buy than POE 2 beta?

[regal pond]

i think so yes. PoE2 isnt finished, and has a garbage endgame right now b/c of that. Diablo IV's endgame is in a much better place

i do think the first 3 acts of PoE2 are very good

but tbh you can easily wait until its free

[jolly latch]

That’s what I was thinking. VOH is the same price, and POE will eventually be free I’m sure.

[regal pond]

I mean it definitely will. They’re only charging $30 until early access ends. That’s been the plan from the start

[jolly latch]

It’s pretty solid so far. Spiritborn is definitely a fun class.

[rain chasm]

Lots of content, but the games too easy

And bosses are still terrible

[jolly latch]

Wish I would have picked up the xpac sooner. Running up on the end of 6 and immediately starting all over just kinda sucks.

[jolly latch]

I guess they greatly overtuned Lilith since release? I downed her in season 1, I guess it was, but keep getting g wrecked in the platform crumble stage.

[west orchid]

I thought it was awful. To each their own as they say.

[jolly latch]

I started following meta builds pretty much solely at the end ROS in D3 and just really kept with that. Quill Volley certainly has been fun for me, but I’m ready for something new now.

[west orchid]

I'd have another go at it but I don't have the xpac 😦

[jolly latch]

Oh right on. The story and dialogue turned out a bit subpar in the end, imo. It started well but really got bad on some of the dialogue and plot.

[thorny fjord]

Has wowhead staff ever considered building a path of exile branch? Now would be a good time with PoE 2 in early access, but it's a massive undertaking. Just wondering. I wouldn't mind writing some PoE2 articles

Posted in this chat cause it's similar to Diablo. Not sure where else to post that

[regal pond]

wowhead doesnt have anything non-blizzard

also i dont think they get to choose what they do

thats on their parent company

[thorny fjord]

ahhh gotcha

yeah that makes sense

they might have a contract to do blizz games or something

[jolly latch]

Are there any good builds that use The Grandfather, Andariel’s Visage, Ring of Starless Skies AND the Selig mythic together?

[idle grail]

There isn't, no - you're trying to mix mythics that are intended for different types of builds - they're used because they compliment different types of build.

Grandfather is also only usable by Barbs and Necros, so you already cut out classes like Rogue, that historically used Andariel's most

[main eagle]

When ur Mid Run, doing great and BAM! Ingame Ad.
Who thought this was a good idea in Diablo 4.

[regal pond]

That’s definitely a bug. It’s almost definitely meant to pop up only when the shop is open just based on the wording

[sand mauve]

Greetings everyone.

[finite prairie]

Hello

I'm new to the game, I used to play Diablo 3, I just got a new PC and I want to get into D4, do you have any recommendations on which race to choose?

[idle grail]

Depends on what you're looking for - if you want the most powerful thing in the current season, then you're looking at Necromancer, followed by Druid or Barb

If you have VoH and want to blast through the campaign for the first time, Spiritborn is your best bet

[gleaming mauve]

[soft vapor]

So I bought the Deluxe Battle Pass for Season 8, but it won't let me unlock any of the other reliquary's, or go and buy the Premium Battle Pass

[robust ravine]

there's a notice about this in the launcher

[soft vapor]

thank you

[vast storm]

So, the WB timer is wrong on wowhead. It's showing Wandering Death as the next WB, but in-game it's showing as Ashava.

[elder sierra]

anyone able to help me kill zir on torment 2? i got a little cocky and learned i cant kill him lmao

[plush mulch]

Diablo can’t catch a break

I don’t actively play but every other day there’s some bad news lol

[surreal mantle]

hi all

[sacred sable]

What's the state of diablo 4 right now? I brought the game at launch but never got too far but was wondering if now is a better time to jump in

[tulip storm]

Anyone able to help defeat Astaroth lvl4 escalation? I have a party listed already

[junior bolt]

Does D4 have any addons?

[regal pond]

No

Anything you install that claims to be an addon will likely result in you being banned

[junior bolt]

Dang

Thanks for the help and protecting my account

[rain chasm]

Xpaladin 👀

[main eagle]

I swear in season 9 i had a wave in Infernal Hordes that had Goblins in it. there was like 7 or 8.
big bags on them, when u killed them. they're bag exploded into shards.

[granite badge]

$50

for the basic package

$70 for epic paladin, $100 for ultimate

[magic bluff]

There's still goblins

[main eagle]

My Theory - Before D4 Launched, the book of Lorath came out within 1 week, D4 launched. before the expansion came out.
Book of Prava released, then within a week Vessels of hatred released.

Before the 2nd Expansion release's we are getting Dawn of hatred on the February 11th, 2026 is the aimed release date.

Season 10 starts on the 4/5th goes for at least 3 months so begining of march 2026 could be the end.

Between the Release of D4 and the 1st expansion was 16 months, 16 months from Vessels release is march 2026.

Rumor of a Trailer or announcement at the game awards in December 2025. Could the release date for the expansion be March 2026 and Season 11 PTR be the expansion.

Multiple things lead to March 2026

@opaque spire i apologise for the ping, i just wanted to make sure what i wrote makes sense to some one.

[opaque spire]

It's an interesting theory, to be sure.

[royal bison]

Hi

[royal bison]

You know diablo lore?

[main eagle]

yes n no. depends

if has question. ask and i will see if i know the answer 😉

[royal bison]

What you could tell about her?

[main eagle]

Leah, daughter of adria and the dark wanderer from Diablo 2.
travel companion to deckard cain.

most of her law is covered in Diablo 3 story and the Book of cain.

[royal bison]

On art she look exactly like in game?

[main eagle]

about 90% the same

[royal bison]

What is this 10%?

[main eagle]

no longer necklace, missing stomach vest i am not sure what it is called.
its just small differences

[royal bison]

She was a demon?

[royal bison]

What are her abilities?

[royal bison]

Hm?

[main eagle]

right now D3 is on sale on battle.net, u could buy it and witness the story and experience the fantastic tale.

Leah, had a hidden power. that later was her down fall as she was created to be the Vessel of Diablo.

[royal bison]

She was transformed into Diablo?

[main eagle]

you need to play the game man XD im giving spoilers

[royal bison]

You could give

[royal bison]

I sent in dm

[main eagle]

Sorry, I don’t take private messages

[royal bison]

So yes?

[frosty spire]

Tirion Tikon

[proud mantle]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTrPeyYV8/ double tamper bug still exist can u let the dev know so they can fix it before it ruined ladder for s11

[rare lance]

just saw season 11 of d4 starts on thursday, I was planning to make a spiritborn to try them... if new season is rolling in should I wait then?= Cuz I'm guessing I can't play them once that happens? at least that character....

But I'm new to this stuff so I dunno

[robust ravine]

if you are on the Eternal realm, there won't be an issue. However, if you want to play the seasonal realm, I would wait until it is released.

[rare lance]

I see, yeah I want to try the seasonal

do people play the eternal one?

[robust ravine]

mainly people who aren't interested in making a new character every season... probably other reasons too

[rare lance]

do paragon levels stay?

or no?

[robust ravine]

on eternal yes, I have no idea how the season realms work when they start

[rare lance]

well guess i'll see that last bit in 2 days then!

ty for the answers

[lone mountain]

are they going to ever post the trailer on diablo youtube 😛

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goK4jI9nwzw

I guess just use their version

[main eagle]

My Guess was 1 Month off. i was so Close.

[north quiver]

wft u mean 0 dmg

[wild pond]

Dumb question

Where is Diablo 1?

[north quiver]

battle.net store or gog

https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/diablo @wild pond

[rare lance]

did someone say thorns?

[grave hound]

Hey there guys! Is anyone having trouble seeing world boss or legion on their map. If its not a whisper I cant see it on the map

[rare lance]

What difficulty are you on?

I believe depending on difficulty they might not show up

[grave hound]

I was on hard. Was planning to to go up a difficulty level.

I had to wait for the announcement to find the boss.

I tried /find world boss. Not sure if that works lol

It showed up only when there was a whisper and grim favorable

[rare lance]

Iirc they only show on the map after a certain difficulty

Would need to check which thou

I had the same issue because my T4 spiritborn had him show but the rogue whom I was playing on hard did not

[grave hound]

Idk whats going on. It's was notifying me before.

But if theres not whisper (grim favors) it wont show. Maybe Ill change difficulty then

[rare lance]

Yeah, without whisper it wont show

[fast jewel]

Getting back into Diablo 4 for the first time since season 2. Any tips welcome at this point 😭🤣

[modern steppe]

nice

[vernal idol]

Im new here i guess

[vital tangle]

Nah

[lone mountain]

Why is this still bugged for 3 years? https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1pmownp/i_cant_complete_the_pests_and_pertilences_quest/

[torpid marten]

Anyone have any suggestions on how to find Silent Chests? Trying to do the season pass stuff

[lime idol]

I play sorceress on new expansion. I'm only lvl 20. Is it me or it's really hard ?
Even first boss on boat took me around 5 min to defeat him.
Last expansion, I have played paladin and have no problem in max world tier for my lvl.
Here, with my chain lightning sorceress, I take so much time to defeat "elite" / "rare".

[lime idol]

Ok, so I have zogzog another build : Blizzard, blizzard, blizzard (https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/sorcerer-shockuna-leveling), better

[sudden plank]

any players with this fatal error after trial paladin ?
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/diablo-4-crashes-at-character-selection-free-paladin-character-without-bought-dlc/250401/36

[frigid moth]

anyone on that can moo on me?

[compact sundial]

New player here what to do with items i don't need? to i salvage all?

[lime idol]

Salvage or sell them

Depend if you need gold or materials

Before lvl 60+, I recommand to sell them for gold (salvage useless legendaries) because with theses golds, you can buy some fresh and good stuff from vendors

[compact sundial]

thanks man

[compact sundial]

i don't understand this quest

i'm there but nothing happens

[lime idol]

she is not inside ?

[compact sundial]

Nvm find her

[cloud turret]

Man in german lanhuage the male barb has a complete dofferent voice actor and the new one is so effing bad.(in lord of hatred)

Asked the old one why he isnt doing it anymore.

Answer: blizzard denied ki clause in contract. They wanted his voice to train their ki for free.

[lime idol]

Yes 90% of french voices for Warcraft have this issue too. So, we have a really bad French audio.
Many people rise against this problem but Blizzard do nothing. They loose French people.

[lone mountain]

Diablo 4's bleak future eh? lmao

Time for WoW to cut all ties 😉

[potent lichen]

I never played diablo 3, but kind of intrigued to try out 4

[solemn flame]

The paragon board thing for 4 looks interesting

[regal pond]

im honestly worried its a bit too complicated

it reminds me of vanilla wow's talent tree in a lot of ways

such that there will be wrong nodes and wrong builds

and while theres not as big of a meta since it isnt multiplayer in the same way, i dont know if thats good for the game

[exotic spruce]

One of D3's strength right now is how many viable builds there are

[merry agate]

My seasonal demon hunter rocks the Marauder set. Just one shots everything in sight.

Turret go brrrr.

You have no idea how much I've farmed for the Manticore crossbow.

[solemn flame]

Honestly it reminds me of (I think it was) FF10 skill trees. Where everyone has the same tree just started in different places on it

[wicked haven]

Most people compared it either to PoE or FF10. Its the nature of gamers to look at things they already experienced when analyzing something new. That's why I'm glad that Piepiora kept it visually simple. It's still work in progress and will definitely look very much differently compared to the shown prototype

[wicked haven]

Very valid concern! I'm a big fan of PoE's approach to build level where powerful builds usually don't last too long in the meta. Keeps the meta fresh and people can freely decide whether they play "underdog stuff" or just the power house of the month. Additionally, players who played less powerful builds are rewarding in case some abilities make their way up the patch notes!

[regal pond]

I like PoEs system but it’s also very difficult to use unless you have a deep understanding of the game. I don’t want paragon to become a system where I need to know every node on the tree and always have to plan out my entire build

[wicked haven]

Agreed. I hope they find their spot between "lol gimme 1 main stat point gaem pls" and "I need 1k hours plaed and two software tools to make a very good build"

[solemn flame]

Oh yeah I guess I forgot PoE system is just like that too lol

[regal pond]

Yeah PoE literally needs an external tool to prep your builds

[wicked haven]

and one to play it - if you don't write your own item filters!

I still hope that they'll add some sort of community support functionality like filters, etc. - it's what keeps the PoE community together

[regal pond]

It would be nice if PoE builder was built into the game. If Diablo 4’s is even half as complex, I hope D4 has a tool for build planning in game

[twilit carbon]

Yeah if you can flag nodes with a number attached to the flag that would be really cool.

[opaque elk]

looking for people to play wow with dm me if you want max 5 people'

[regal pond]

wrong channel and the spam is unneccesary

can you not read - both the rules and the channel name?

[tepid nexus]

gfys

[opaque elk]

why

[neon perch]

wait what, there is a Diablo 4?

those are breaking news to me i swear

[exotic spruce]

It's still in development, it's not out yet

[neon perch]

i see, i assumed so

still though, i'm glad about these news

[tepid nexus]

What became of that mobile game? Did it ever come out? 🤔

[quaint wedge]

no, they keep saying Immortal will be ready "soon" lol

™️

[tepid nexus]

[clear cargo]

TM

[tight obsidian]

It’ll be ready before June

Copium

[solemn flame]

D4? Yeah big doubt

[tepid nexus]

June 2025 yeah maybe

[clear cargo]

Doubtful. They had a full cinematic trailer last year I think.

[grave venture]

[exotic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/hga-giraffe-high-giraffe-academy-gif-23886522

[prisma pewter]

Diablo 4 vs poe 2 less gooo

[neon perch]

Diablo 4 when?

what's gonna happen first:

a) mars colonization
b) Diablo 4

place your bets

i place my bet on mars colonization

[merry agate]

I think we'll get Team Fortress 3 before Diablo 4.

And considering Valve can't actually count to three, well...

[neon perch]

its not really Valve who can't count to 3, but instead their CEO/Founder GabeN

https://tenor.com/view/gabe-collector-steam-wallet-discounts-gabe-newell-gif-17620770

[smoky field]

Beta testing has begun

[smoky field]

as soon as beta testing is over, which is currently inn progress right now

Diablo 4 began beta testing a short time ago. diablo immortal is now on pc but also in a testing phase

[regal pond]

we dont know this - giving out beta access =/= testing has started

[smoky field]

Yes we do, because i am currently a beta tester.

[regal pond]

well then take some screenshots my dude

[smoky field]

why? you got ants in your pants? LOL! Let's just put it this way: the map is changing everytime you login ALA diablo 2

[regal pond]

because why would i believe you

you dont just get to say "this is happening" without showing any proof

[smoky field]

they started signups for the beta test back in june. you can still get in on it. game release is first or second quarter of 2023

[regal pond]

uh huh

still doesnt prove that youre not just lying for some reason

[smoky field]

Blizzard(opens in new tab) has quietly opened pre-registrations for a Diablo 4(opens in new tab) closed beta, allowing players to opt-in for a shot at the closed beta when testing starts. To do so, all you need to do is head to the Diablo 4 website(opens in new tab) and click a little "Pre-Register" button, then log in to your battle.net account for a chance to get picked as a tester

[regal pond]

uh huh, and? PRE-REGISTRATION

WHEN TESTING STARTS

also you could just take a pic of your battlenet launcher

not to mention closed beta will have a forum and patch notes

[smoky field]

I am lying huh? how can i be lying when the diablo 4 page is already up and running and has been for 2 months plus closed beta has started

[regal pond]

wut

where is the evidence its started?

the thing you posted literally is about pre-registration aka - not started

its not even in the battlenet catalogue as an official game

the cdn has no record of builds

literally you are lying

[smoky field]

the PRE turned into regular registration like a week ago my dude. Keys were already issued to be gien out by the major game websites

[regal pond]

uh huh, and no one is talking about it because?

[smoky field]

the hype is on dragonflight, that's why. keep it low key so the crowds don't go crazy

[regal pond]

uh huh

sure

[smoky field]

I got in D4 beta because i beta tested 2, so I am very lucky

[regal pond]

and yet you refuse to take a simple screenshot?

[smoky field]

and violate the NDA? are you nutz?

[regal pond]

if theres an NDA, what youre doing right now violates it, if there isnt, then youre just being secretive for no reason

closed betas have never had NDAs previously

in fact, none of blizzards games where you can sign up for access have NDAs

[smoky field]

we can talk about the beta since it's already been announced. LOL

[regal pond]

not a single one

thats not how NDAs work either

do you know what NDA means?

[smoky field]

closed betas do have NDAS. C_L_O_S_E_D

[regal pond]

its a non-disclosure agreement, it means you literally cant talk about any aspect to anyone

[regal pond]

wow is literally in closed alpha

theres no NDA

and again - there are no D4 builds on the CDN

the last one was when they last showed off gameplay

[smoky field]

who cares about the CDN. that's public info. closed betas won't be onn a public CDN

[regal pond]

yes they will - literally every game build is on there

at least anything that has to be distributed outside of blizz HQ

unless you are driving over to play in their offices, it would be on the CDN

[smoky field]

Closed betas are only to a select group of people peach. not the whole world

[regal pond]

when they do demos, theyre on the CDN, press tours? CDN, event showoffs? CDN

[regal pond]

IN ORDER TO SEND THEM TO THE CLIENT, THEY NEED TO BE SENT OVER THE CDN

theyre not shipping you a fucking zip file

CDN = Content Distribution Network

its literally how they distribute files to the client

D4 has had no CDN builds in months

[smoky field]

i guess you don't knnow how betas really work then, I do, because i've been doing this for at least 20 years now

[regal pond]

yes - me, the person who has been in every wow alpha or beta since warlords, knows nothing about how blizzard works

meanwhile you, who claims to be under an NDA theyre actively breaking by talking about d4, is totally worth believing without any proof of any kind

[smoky field]

warlords? LOL! very recent then. I beta tested pandaria

[regal pond]

you have as much credibility as anyone on a corner screaming theyre the queen of england

[regal pond]

woopdidoo

if you tested then, you would know how the CDN works

[steady lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[smoky field]

look up emmett gulley diablo 2 beta test then on google if i have no credibility

[regal pond]

why dont you link it?

[smoky field]

THEN come talk to me

[regal pond]

also when the D2 beta was happening, there was a forum, and patch notes

and that was a closed beta

and all of the builds even before it went to closed beta, were on the CDN

seriously - without the CDN, how would they ship the D4 client to testers?

[smoky field]

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.games.diablo/c/E9kHHdi0zyw

my name is on the list for diablo 2

[regal pond]

the fuck is that?

a google group?

[smoky field]

that's the list of all who made the diablo 2 beta test

including me

[regal pond]

uh huh

b/c they would just publish names

[smoky field]

diblo 2 beta test was with ACT 1 CD's

[regal pond]

thats definitely not a violation of several california privacy laws 🙄

[regal pond]

do you mean ye olde D2?

jesus - thats not even equivalent to D4

you cant distribute the online game over disk

like - this isnt relevant to showing you have D4 access

it literally proves nothing

because again - CDN

[smoky field]

LOL! diablo 2 wasn't just an online game

[regal pond]

D4 is though

[smoky field]

Not fully

[regal pond]

yes fully

[smoky field]

nope

[regal pond]

they literally said so

https://www.windowscentral.com/diablo-4-how-always-online-system-will-work

its literally always online

why make stuff up when i can literally google to prove you wrong?

[smoky field]

that's a 2021 link. they have changed it now to both onnnline and regular offline play

[regal pond]

uh huh

meanwhile D3 still is online only

they just "changed it"

oh wait

i have proof from this year too

BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED NECROMANCER

[smoky field]

so you are telling me that a physical copy of diablo 3 doesn't exist?

[regal pond]

im telling you its worthless without an internet connection

and ALL ITS BUILDS ARE ON THE CDN

[smoky field]

https://www.amazon.com/Diablo-III-Battle-Chest-PC-Standard/dp/B01M6BKS4L?th=1

[regal pond]

you do realize d3 came out in 2012 right?

most games came on disk in 2012

cataclysm had a disk

[smoky field]

all versions are on the CDN huh? you need to stop while you are ahead. I've been doing this alot longer than you have

[regal pond]

THEY LITERALLY ARE

or were

[smoky field]

No they are not

[regal pond]

everytime an update is pushed it overwrites the previous build

[smoky field]

both diablo and starcraft as well as WOW have had physical CD's

[regal pond]

give me 1 example of a modern game people play through battle.net that doesnt have builds on the CDN

[regal pond]

HAD

PAST TENSE

TIMES CHANGE

https://tenor.com/view/worldofwar-timeschange-change-garrosh-gif-13230689

[smoky field]

Not really, because i can still use my physical warlords cd to install it

[regal pond]

every single wow alpha, beta and release, modern d3 builds, the previous d4 builds, ow1 ow2, and more are all on the CDN

[regal pond]

uh, you can install the build, you cant play it

in fact its essentially just the textures and launcher

all of the quest info was serverside

also warlords didnt have a CD

oh wait

the deluxe edition

[smoky field]

A CDN doesn't keep games. what you are refrring to is a database that blizzard started to keep track so if anyonne lost their CD's they could still download and innstall the game

[regal pond]

no

literally no

[smoky field]

YES

[regal pond]

a CDN is how they distribute their builds to the client

[smoky field]

I was there when they started this

[regal pond]

that means nothing

a CDN is a content distribution network

its how they send out a hotfix

or how a build gets sent to the launcher

[smoky field]

Are you under 40 years of age?

[regal pond]

im done

youre a liar

you refuse to show proof

[smoky field]

thought so

[regal pond]

and then scream about fucking CDs

a thing that blizz hasnt used outside of collector editions in YEARS

[smoky field]

You know nothing

[regal pond]

because most computers dont even have disk drives anymore

[smoky field]

yes they do

[regal pond]

no they dont

[smoky field]

yes they do

[regal pond]

https://www.alphr.com/new-pcs-dvd-blu-ray-drives-more/

https://www.lifewire.com/death-of-the-computer-optical-drive-832403

[smoky field]

fake news article

both of them

[regal pond]

ah yes

proving your point by just saying it isnt real

[smoky field]

my computer came with a cd/dvd drive and it's less than 1 year old

[regal pond]

bye

[smoky field]

keep on back peddiling mr peach

you must be a millenial

thinking you knnow everything

i've been playing wow and diablo since they first came out. so I know what i am talking about

Maitenance tomorrow at 1 pm. make a note of it

[wicked haven]

what a great morning read

[exotic spruce]

The best part of waking up is BS in your cup

[stoic fiber]

some people are dumb and like to scream about being old to justify their shitty behavior

[solemn flame]

Yeah, idk man, the last 3 computers i built haven’t had the need to pay for a cd/dvd drive since I can literally load anything with a flash drive nowadays, in fact installing an OS now is literally recommended to use a flash drive instead of a CD kinda shows you how much things have changed

[twilit carbon]

My old build had a CD drive but I just use a USB portable drive if I really need something. Usually I will just rip the iso or whatever.

[smoky field]

mine came with a blu ray drive, so i can watch movies

[regal pond]

oh - look what finally showed up on the launcher CDN

[wicked haven]

[regal pond]

b/c of course, i never know what im talking about

right?

im a millenial (im not) and i dont know jack shit about how the blizzard games ive spent the past 10 years testing work

so yeah, with the alpha now on CDN, testing will start soon

im curious if it will be similar to how theyre doing the dragonflight alpha

i imagine some of it might be since theyll want to do act testing or zone testing

but im also curious if theyll do focused dungeon testing - i cant imagine not testing random dungeons to make sure they dont bug out and become incompletable

[lone mountain]

Did you get yourself a tat for the alpha?

[regal pond]

tattoos are against my religion

so no

im not as hungry for this alpha as i am for wow's

im fine waiting for release

[solemn flame]

Yeah, I wouldn’t do it either lol

[regal pond]

also im not permanently marking myself with a video game symbol

thats like wearing a shirt with a logo permanently

[solemn flame]

Buttcheek tat

[lone mountain]

Sooo Dystopia now thanks to Blizzard

[solemn flame]

How would they know

[lone mountain]

People already deface their body with logo's sadly for a long time now... Not sure why though I could see someone getting a Diablo Tat if they liked it tbh... But not because they want to get into alpha or at least I hope not lol

[exotic spruce]

To each their own

[regal pond]

if you already want one, sure

[solemn flame]

As long as it’s not a face tat I don’t see the harm. If they really want it they can get it placed somewhere that won’t matter too much. I’ve got two friends that are constantly adding on to gaming sleeves

[regal pond]

if its just for alpha, thats kinda weird

[lone mountain]

Dude how am I suppose to display my HK Tears on my face to show off how badass I am?

[solemn flame]

I mean, you do you baby.

Imagine having the rogue class symbol tatted on your cheek

[lone mountain]

lmao

[smoky field]

mr peach with incorrect info AGAIN!

DF is already in alpha testig

and NO, the cdn is not being used. it's a separate installer

D4 is also in testing as well. I am IN the d4 testing

[stoic fiber]

yeah; for sure

[smoky field]

all you have to do is look at the battlenet app to see what is testing. you don't need some 3rd party website

Dragonflight alpha testing began july 14th

[solemn flame]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okay-umm-awkward-situation-huh-gif-5850917

[smoky field]

the proof is right on the website

so mr peach is wrong againn

[exotic spruce]

🆗

[solemn flame]

yeah and they also made a whole news article talking about how dragonflight alpha started on the 14th i don't see your point? there was testers before the 14th but they were all under an NDA and could not legally talk about it

[smoky field]

true, buit mr peach said alpha had not begun to test yet. he was wrong

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/world-of-warcraft/23818248/the-world-of-warcraft-dragonflight-alpha-test-has-begun

[solemn flame]

why do you have such a hardon for mrpeach?

also when did he say DF wasn't testing yet?

[smoky field]

because he tried to tell me that i was wrong. I'm in the DF alpha test right now and so far it's great. has some issues but it's getting better. Also, he tried to tell me some crap about the d4 beta test as well. I am also in that as well

[regal pond]

i never said the DF alpha hadnt started

not once

[smoky field]

i got in the d4 beta because i beta tested d2

[regal pond]

i said the D4 one hadnt since we hadnt gotten a new fenryr build since february

[solemn flame]

man how lucky are you that you got into BOTH alphas so cool.

[regal pond]

except you refuse to show any proof, so either you are a liar, or you are breaking NDA

[smoky field]

there is no NDA for the d4 beta

[regal pond]

discussing being in the D4 alpha absolutely would violate the NDA

[solemn flame]

D4 isn't in beta but go on

[smoky field]

and none for the DF alpha test either

[regal pond]

if there is no NDA, why no screenshots?

yeah obviously for DF

[solemn flame]

yup it got lifted on july 14th

[regal pond]

i never said there was

[smoky field]

because you tried to claim you were smarter than me mr peach.

[regal pond]

but we knew there were DF builds for months

also didnt do that

i said you were wrong

or a liar

you are saying there is no D4 NDA, if there isnt, why wont you take a screenshot?

its a simple question

[smoky field]

i am not a liar. little do you know that the tests for both were liosted on the main site way before 3rd party sites ot the news

[regal pond]

sign ups=/= test has started

and again

if you arent a liar, post a screenshot

you said theres no NDA, prove it

[smoky field]

Hell d4 already has a site up with a beta test section

[regal pond]

it literally says "be notified of upcoming tests"

thats all it says

[solemn flame]

https://tenor.com/view/b-ig-daddy-prove-it-gif-8780536

[regal pond]

^^^^

this

you said there is no D4 NDA and that you are in the test for it, take a screenshot or 10 and prove it

why would anyone believe you otherwise? because you were in the testing for D2? thats not proof

[exotic spruce]

Claimed to be in the testing for D2

[regal pond]

whether they were or not doesnt matter

[exotic spruce]

True

[regal pond]

if theyre in the D4 beta and theres no NDA, then they are free to share screenshots

so show proof

[smoky field]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo2/23688836/play-diablo-ii-resurrected-during-the-early-access-and-open-beta

[solemn flame]

they've been silent for a bit maybe they are going to get the SS

oh

[regal pond]

thats not relevant?

[solemn flame]

nvm

[regal pond]

thats D2R - wtf does that have to do with you showing proof of you being in the testing pool for D4?

[solemn flame]

or in the beta for D2

🤷‍♂️

[regal pond]

i dont care about the D2 stuff

that was 20 years ago

[solemn flame]

hey guys i beta tested D3

[regal pond]

you said you are a tester for D4 and theres no NDA, so show proof that you are in the tester pool for D4

take an ingame screenshot or shut up

[solemn flame]

it was fun, i nearly 100% all the achievements before launch

[regal pond]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/ek48IHYOvj2UNT1TZY/giphy.gif

[solemn flame]

i'm also in the alpha test for D5

but i'm not supposed to tell you guys that

[smoky field]

LMAO, you are so stupid for thinking there's NDAS for beta testing

[exotic spruce]

Dude, just drop it

[solemn flame]

okay so you're not testing any of them got it

[regal pond]

you said there isnt - show proof of you being a tester for D4

not D2, not D2R not DF

D4

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-im-afraid-im-gonna-need-proof-matt-leblanc-gif-17328161

https://tenor.com/view/evidence-shia-labeouf-gif-12214483

[smoky field]

why should i, you will just call me a liar again after i showed you the list for d2 beta testers, which i was a part of

[regal pond]

D2 isnt D4

that proves nothing

[solemn flame]

but if we had evidence of you in the d4 alpha how could we call you a liar?

[regal pond]

its super easy to go in game on D4 and take a screenshot if you have access

[smoky field]

and i will not show a screenshot because you will call me a liar again

[regal pond]

if you gave us an ingame screenshot that isnt just a pic from the website or media, how could we doubt you?

[solemn flame]

oh okay

makes sense

[regal pond]

"I wont provide proof because then i will be proven a liar because i have none"

^you right now

[smoky field]

how old are you mr peach? for the second time

[solemn flame]

how old are you?

[exotic spruce]

A screenshot would literally help provide evidence you're not a liar

[regal pond]

if you keep asking me personal questions im gonna ping mods

[smoky field]

i am 51

[solemn flame]

15?

[exotic spruce]

That has nothing to do with the price of tea in China

[regal pond]

idc how old you are

it doesnt matter

you dont have D4 access

because if you did, and there was no NDA, you could take screenshots

you could sell them to news outlets

hell, news outlets would have articles

but they dont

because you are a liar

[smoky field]

Gumball, scroll up and check for the link i posted which listed all the names for the d2 testers.

[regal pond]

THATS D2

thats fully irrelevant to D4

[exotic spruce]

That means nothing for D4 dude

[regal pond]

its a different game from 20 years ago

[solemn flame]

https://tenor.com/view/ricegum-irrelevant-gif-12968045

[smoky field]

so what, you tried to claim an NDA was for d2 as well

[regal pond]

NO I DIDNT

i claimed an NDA for D2R before the alpha started

which there was

[exotic spruce]

Oh my god will you just go back to shitposting on facebook

[regal pond]

thats why the news all dropped on the same day

but meanwhile, there were CDN builds for months before that

[exotic spruce]

"I'm 51, my age and my statements provide 100% credibility, whippersnapper!"

[smoky field]

https://discordapp.com/channels/107362567793422336/930958859026202697/999144762009456700

[regal pond]

im dont responding - ill let you go on a rant again about how you tested D2 and that matters for some reason while you continue to refuse to provide proof when we havent had a new fenryr build for months until today

[exotic spruce]

Like ffs dude if you actually posted relevant evidence nobody could say shit