wow-help

[crisp pine]

hey guys i just hit level 50 and dont have shadowlands, what do i do now?

[jagged shard]

collect pets, mounts and tmogs?

[hearty terrace]

how do i disable this ?

or what is this at all ?

[blissful sand]

It's most likely an addon

[hearty terrace]

which one ?

details ?

[blissful sand]

Interface -> Addons
Screenshot the list you have there

[thick pier]

dumb question but is there a way to combine all your bags into one?

[blissful sand]

There are a number of addons that can accomplish this.
Bagnon is a solid choice for a "Bag Only" addon

[thick pier]

oh that helps thanks alot

[uneven hull]

ehh im newww to WOW , any player can guide me ? should i play retail or classic wow ? kindly advise. im a noob

i played gw2 previously , want to get into WOW

[vale hawk]

If you're new, start with retail

[hearty terrace]

what ilvl is good enough to do M +18 ?

[jolly tree]

There are a lot of factors, but probably 272 would be a comfortable (above mininum) ballpark

[hearty sluice]

Slight issue with keybinding.. My ctrl key is what I use for my second set of keys. Everytime I hit it, if I hold it for any amount of time and try to move while casting, I end up standing still and my camera turns in place. I'm trying to figure out how to unbind the ctrl key from this function.

[hasty spear]

if CTRL+W or some other directional key is not a keybind you have set then it shouldnt interfer

[hearty sluice]

ctrl w isn't set to anything. ctrl and any of the movement keys arent set to anything.. problem is when I'm holding control, moving and casting at the same time.. that's when the issue arises.

I tried looking in keybind settings and stuff but can't seem to find the option to turn off the camera locking thingy with ctrl

[hearty grove]

I reached level 30 and and am now able to get flying mounts and purchased the training. What is the easiest mount for me to obtain so i can fly?

[azure reef]

You should be able to purchase a flying mount in your major city

For a small amount of gold

[hearty grove]

how does refer a friend work?

[hasty spear]

you either receive or send a ref code which players that are new to the game (i think they can use it in and before their first 30 days of gametime) can use to "link" them to the referrer. Both players then gain the ability to summon each other afaik and the referrer gets a little bonus for each month of gametime that passes for the referred player. that includes additional gametime, transmog items, mounts, pets etc

[blissful sand]

Does this happen if you disable all addons?

[vivid gorge]

Hi I currently have a problem i am trying to unlock to Lightforged Draenei. I got to the quest where Illidan resist Xera to take her light and after that i collected the lights and and completed the quest. Now i flew with the ship to the other place suddenly my game said it lost connection during the loading process and and i logged in again. The problem now is illidan is still standing inside and i cant get the quest to continue the story and i dont know what to do now any help?

I also tried going back to the other place and move over again the game logs me out sometimes but not always but illidan is still standing in the ship all the time

[cerulean lagoon]

I would put in a ticket w/ Blizz Support about it, seems like a game bug

[vivid gorge]

How can i put up a ticket ?

I am pretty new to the game so i never ran into a real problem

[cerulean lagoon]

If you go to battle.net in your web browser and login with your Battle.net account, you can click on the "Support" button and then go through the ticketing process

Technical>Contact Support then either describe the issue or categorize it

[gaunt beacon]

If I earned the achieve "Boldly you Sought the Power of Ragnaros" on a character on a second account, if I transferred him, would the achieve and core hound mount come too?

[cerulean lagoon]

If the main account doesn't have the achievement already, then no. Mounts and Achieve's are account-specific
https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/83440

[silent oar]

Yes, it’s an account wide achievement / mount

[cerulean lagoon]

It's on a different account than his main account from the looks of his post. If it's from one account to another, it won't transfer over. The main account must have it unlocked for his transferred char to still have the achieve and mount

[silent oar]

I just re-read their post. So yes you’re correct.

[cerulean lagoon]

I also know from personal experience, my main from vanilla I transferred off an old account and none of my old mounts and shit were there which made me sad :/ tho my mother still uses the account so it's not like everything is lost

[gaunt beacon]

The mount comes from the achieve

Which I think would transfer over

The achieve

And in doing so, the mount

[velvet sparrow]

No, that's ties to the account not the character

[cerulean lagoon]

@gaunt beacon When you transfer a character between battle.net accounts, any achievements and mounts are not carried over. The character takes on the achievements/mounts of the profile it's transferred too. Unfortunately there's no merger, and I would assume that's so people don't sell their accounts with rare mounts to just transfer from a character

[gaunt beacon]

I’ve had achievements transfer over

When transferring characters

Different accounts

[cerulean lagoon]

Character-specific achievements will, but account-wide achievements won't (ie. mount achievements)

[gaunt beacon]

The rag achieve doesn’t say account wide, says “Earned on X character, not earned on Y character”

I’ll just open a ticket to ask

[cerulean lagoon]

Most achievements are account-wide, and have been since MoP

iirc the only "true" character-specific achievements are the Feats of Strength and Legacy achievements

But mount achieves are typically account-wide

[velvet sparrow]

Bin is correct, Bash

[gaunt beacon]

I’ll just open a ticket to confirm

Won’t hurt

[cerulean lagoon]

Never does, a second set of eyes on an issue is always helpful 🙂

[hearty grove]

Where could i find this? I am in orgrimmar and i am a blood elf warlock if that changes anything

[azure reef]

the vendor Drakma can be found behind the flying trainer

sells wyverns

[fickle whale]

can sombody help me get shadowlands?

ive seen some sites where i can but it cheaper but idk if its trustworty

[hasty spear]

it was on sale like 3-4 days ago

and well depends on the site

[umbral saddle]

I wouldn’t buy WoW unless it’s from Blizzard.

[hasty spear]

Advertisement for Sites is against the rules but if you just google for some Game Key Price Comparing sites im sure you will find something.

[blissful sand]

If you are playing Retail Wow
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=44919/maztha

[hearty sluice]

Ill have to try and see when I get home.

[patent ledge]

is there any addon to clean bank easily? I have lots of old stuff and deleting 1 by one is too tedious....

[cerulean lagoon]

Bagnon is a great add-on that can help with that

[fickle whale]

anyone wanna help me check if im doing the right quest line in order to recive a moutn

[hard imp]

how does unity work? i see that its its own memory so can i change what ability i use WITH unity or am i stuck with the one it gives me?

i cant get my hear around how unity itself works

[umbral saddle]

Unity is your current covenant legendary.

It will change if you change covenants and you can have another legendary besides Unity equipped at the same time

[hard imp]

alright i just want sure if i could change it off of the cov legendary, thats what was confusing me

[umbral saddle]

No unity is only covenant legendary. It’s the other one you can make whatever you’d like

[hard imp]

alright sweet man youre a god thanks, it was really tripping me out lmao

[umbral saddle]

No problem. Glad to clear it up for you lol

[vague bane]

No more wintergrasp?

[azure reef]

sounds like its not loaded

[umbral saddle]

You gotta fly into the zone to see the buildings and such

[vague bane]

OH

[azure reef]

[vague bane]

that would make sense

i just thought it was funny

[azure reef]

ye wish you could check by looking at the zone

would save time for farming the raid if you didnt have to go there and be dissapointed its taken by the opposing faction

[vague bane]

yeah i agree

[vague bane]

Has anyone else gone into silvermoon lately to find people just facing the walls of the room

ive just found five of them

[vale hawk]

lmao

[vague bane]

its so ominous

i messaged one of them too to ask what they were doing and just said "never"

[vale hawk]

Something about the names and gear on them makes me think they're busted bot characters on standby

[vague bane]

they're all level 50, level 10 and level 1

so maybe

[silent oar]

Most likely bots that do the fake whispers as Blizz devs. Once tracked down the DK and where they were hiding to report them. They were hiding in a corner out of sight in the DK starting zone.

[vague bane]

ahhh

ive never received one of those but my partner did today... i feel bad for the people that fall for them

[vale hawk]

There are occasionally people here that reported falling for it

You might be able to report the characters for suspicious behavior

[silent oar]

Most of those bots has "Blizzard" as a character name. But the weirdly named ones sometimes do other scams

Like saying you won some raffle and to claim it or your account is compromised or to sell gold at a discount from some website

[vague bane]

Ahhh

makes sense

[jagged shard]

are they facing Mecca?

[vale hawk]

Stop now.

[jagged shard]

we are trying to solve a mystery here, and nothing is off the table yet

I see chat of bots

[umbral saddle]

Yikes

[vale hawk]

Yeah, big yikes

[vague bane]

whats that supposed to mean?

[vale hawk]

He's implying something incredibly racist by suggesting an Islamic religious practice is suspicious behavior

[vague bane]

Figured. Just wanted to see him clutch at straws trying to find an excuse

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[vale hawk]

This is what AA does. Regularly makes incredibly inappropriate off-color jokes that are just gross

[vague bane]

Eww

Why hasn't he been banned yet

[reef whale]

does outlaw feel really weak while leveling? Im trying it out and I feel like my energy generation and aoe is awful

[umbral saddle]

Does for me but I’m just terrible at rogues in general so

Maybe user error at least that’s what I’ve chalked it up to for me

[reef whale]

Yeah I am definitely not great with it but I still feel like my damage is pretty bad rn

[vale hawk]

By barely skirting the rules just enough to get away with it, same as all other insufferable toxic "hurhur I did the racism I'm funni" types

[jagged shard]

rascist would be implying that a religion can be practiced by one "race"... I know a few Persian Christians, for example.

And assuming that toons kneeling in game is suspicious and bots is laughable

[vale hawk]

"I'm not racist, I'm just a bigot"

[umbral saddle]

I mean damage while leveling isn’t indicative of endgame damage so I’d just keep at it @reef whale

[vale hawk]

What lehrdaniel said. Scaling isn't accurate or balanced during leveling

[umbral saddle]

As long as you’re having fun and the things are dying what does it truly matter

[reef whale]

Arr, my pirate dreams live on

[vale hawk]

Outlaw when geared at max is all kinds of fun

But nobody likes leveling rogues

It's normal, you'll be fine

[umbral saddle]

It’s true rogues are my least favorite class to level lol

[reef whale]

yeah I just finished leveling a fury warrior so Its a completely different experience lmao

[vale hawk]

I can't think of a single time I've heard someone talk about how much fun they had leveling a rogue lmao

But endgame is a completely different animal

Most of the time my main target is stunlocked

[velvet sparrow]

I love Outlaw lvling tbh.

[calm condor]

Sup guys! 🙂

Quick question, I’m wanting to get the Underrot Crawg Mount, I’m level 50 max until I can buy shadowland to level up more. In the mean time my gear level is 53. I’m aware I need to do mythic dungeon to do this but My gears are so low. Where and how can I acquire higher gears? Like 120 or more. N can I party up with someone to get this mount?

[vale hawk]

Joining a party to do the mythic dungeon is your best bet

[calm condor]

Alright, I see

[vale hawk]

You might be able to get some better gear playing the Visions of N'Zoth patch content like Aqir Assaults and the Ny'alotha raid

[azure reef]

finding people to do nyalotha, let alone someone whos wanting to inv a none maxed might be tricky

[vale hawk]

Yeah. Your best bet is to find a guild or community who would be willing to run it with you, or hunting down a transmog run in the group finder under legacy raids

[calm condor]

Alright, thank you for the tips

[rancid jackal]

how do i get good

[silent oar]

By actually playing the game, reading guides and learning though trail and error

[oblique moth]

anyone else having issues with transmogs dissappearing?

[languid trench]

when will 10.0 be

[azure reef]

we do not know

guesses are next year

[crisp pine]

hey guys whats the quickest way to level my guild rep?

[silent oar]

It's a current bug atm, no eta on when it will be addressed

[silent oar]

Do quests, dungeons, world quests / dailys till you reach a rank to purchase a Guild tabard which will help increase the rep. A good way to farm it our fast is when the Darkmoon Faire is around. Gives a buff when on a ride for an hour towards reps.

[oblique moth]

ok thank you

[crisp pine]

@silent oar thanks man, is there a set time for the faire?

[silent oar]

It's up on the game calender once a month for a full week

Always up during the irl Full Moon Phase

So usually up the first or last of the month

[vale hawk]

The Darkmoon Faire is always the first full week of every month

[quiet lodge]

how do i get to legion dalaran, i skipped the intro quest, didnt get my dalaran hearthstone, and arent a high enough lvl to use the stormwind portal to azsuna

(lvl 21 velf priest)

[vale hawk]

You skipped the intro and weren't sent to Dalaran?

[deft egret]

what would be the recommended controls for abilities, since I currently only have abilities set to a keybind from 1-9 and then - and =. 1-5 or 6 are good enough but the rest I can't really be asked to reach my hand to do. Is there any add-on that perhaps changes the hotbar UI as well?

[hasty spear]

you can change the actionbar however you like there are a bunch of addons that could do that but i think bartender4 is the most popular one.
Also consider buttons like q,e,r,t,f,g,y,x,c,v (basically everything thats around W,A,S,D) and maybe using them twice or more often via Shift+, Alt+ or Ctrl+

and maybe if your mouse has a few more buttons (mine has 15) then you can also use some of them

if you have a hard time with muscle memory remembering which button is which i recommend to arrange the action bar in a shape that resembles your actual key layout.

[deft egret]

trying to figure out how to use bartender4 right now, how should one be utilizing it?

[hasty spear]

i havent used it in years since i use ElvUI which is a total conversion for the UI.
But iirc there should be an icon near the Minimap or another configuration menu in the settings. it was pretty straight forward back then.

[hot lily]

so im playing frost m and i saw someone use something that makes it so that ice block heals you over the duration , anyone know what this is ?

[raven flint]

This dark Moon faire thing? Is the buff applied automatically or do I need to go somewhere and pick up a quest or smtg first?

[vale hawk]

[Cryo-Freeze]

[forest lily]

Cryo-Freeze - https://www.wowhead.com/spell=337123/cryo-freeze - Live 9.2.0

Cryo-Freeze

Live 9.2.0

[hot lily]

ah tysm

[vale hawk]

The Darkmoon Faire takes place at Darkmoon Island and is only available during the first full week of every month

You gain the experience/reputation buff by riding the roller coaster, the carousel, or from one of the Darkmoon Hats you can get either as a prize from Darkmoon Faire games or by purchasing with prize tickets

[raven flint]

Ok so I actually need to go there to acquire the buff gotcha ... And it only works while I'm there? How long does it last?

[vale hawk]

The buff lasts for one hour and only during the DMF. It still works outside of the DMF until the buff wears off

[raven flint]

Ok cool thank you very much!

[vale hawk]

https://www.wowhead.com/darkmoon-faire-made-easy-guide#carousel-ride-buff-for-extra-xp-rep

[raven flint]

Lot to read in that article .. I'll check it out later, thanks again

[hasty spear]

basically just go there every hour and restock on the buff. thats it.

[vale hawk]

Or make sure you leave with a bunch of hats in your bags

[hasty spear]

yeah i once did that but i valued my inventory space over the short time it took me to get there

[vale hawk]

Fair, but in addition to the buff your character will also wear the fanciest goblin rocket top hat around

[raven flint]

I'm assuming u can use a flight master to get there?

[silent oar]

You can take a flight master to the location of Elwynn Forest, Goldshire (Alliance) / Thunderbluff (Horde) to get to the spot where the set up is to take the portal to the Darkmoon Faire.

[vale hawk]

There are also DMF npcs in the capital cities (with a quest if you've never done it) who will also teleport you to your faction's Faire entrance

Again--this is all only available during the DMF

[raven flint]

Ahh thatll work perfect .. I just wanna be prepped for when it starts lol

[vale hawk]

You can also set a reminder in the in-game calendar

[raven flint]

Oh I did not know that was a thing

Slowly learning .. did my first macro the other day so that's a big one for me lol

[vale hawk]

Here are a couple incredibly undervalued console commands to use:

/stopwatch

also:

/reload

Type the first whenever you need it and the second whenever you suspect your UI is acting wonky for whatever reason

Or even an addon

[raven flint]

Whats the stopwatch one do?

[vale hawk]

Opens a little stopwatch/timer window. Very small, you can tuck it away into a corner. I use it when I'm grinding dungeons to make sure I don't reset them in less than 6 minutes, so I can run 10 dungeons without activating the instance lockout

Also occasionally use it to time random things in pve and pvp

[raven flint]

Ahh that's handy

[vale hawk]

I'm sure there's a full list of macro/slash commands somewhere

[raven flint]

Oh ya there definitely will be

[silent oar]

Here’s a WoWhead guide on macros if you’ve not already seen it. https://www.wowhead.com/making-a-macro-commands-modifiers-warcraft-guide

[vale hawk]

Oh I was talking more along the lines of slash commands in general

[silent oar]

Ah ok, I’ll see if I can look up one

[vale hawk]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Macro_commands

One here from wowpedia

[silent oar]

https://worldofwarcraft.fandom.com/et/wiki/Slash_commands#Full_list_of_emotes

This one also lists a good amount of slash commands

[shy wadi]

Hello

I have a question. I wanna return to WoW (last played in Battle for Azeroth) I downloaded the game version 9.2.0 can you please tell me what is included ? Do I need to buy Shadowlands ?

[azure reef]

The sub gives you access to everything excluding shadowlands, so yes it would need to be purchased to play

[shy wadi]

Ok so all I need is to buy game time and the game will include shadowlands ?

[azure reef]

No, gametime and shadowlands is needed

[azure reef]

That’s because it’s the current expansion, doesn’t mean it’s included with the subscription/gametime

[shy wadi]

Ok thank you for information

So is it worth starting now or maybe wait for Dragonflight expansion and just buy that one ?

[azure reef]

Well we don’t know when it’s coming out, tho speculation it’s not till next year

So this expansion has still got a good amount of time left, since we still have another season to be released

[shy wadi]

Ok thank you again

[deft egret]

how much gold approximately would it take to have a full set of fully upgraded heirloom gear?

[pale root]

what level are your heirlooms at rn?

1/5?

[deft egret]

i don't have any heirlooms at the moment

[velvet sparrow]

100k easy

[pale root]

you can easily do math and find out from this image

its hell of a lot though yeah

if you want them all to 5/5

[deft egret]

how much are upgrades?

[pale root]

from 500 gold to 7500

[velvet sparrow]

@deft egret here

[languid trench]

new wow players are forced to play through BFA first, do they start in BFA chromie time or present time

[wheat inlet]

the way it presently goes is you get through exiles reach and BFA starts

[jaunty tiger]

can i send cosmix flux to an alt

[azure reef]

Sadly no

[pallid fulcrum]

which one

[wheat inlet]

threads of fate is better the second time around

[raw ridge]

Since when was this a thing?

is it bad that I've had my hunter since 2018 and I'm just now finding this?

[wheat inlet]

a little? lol

[hasty spear]

how did you even play the game without a spec

[umbral saddle]

its the pet specs

not like you can change them anyways they just come the spec they are its just a little bit of info and their abilities

[hasty spear]

oh yeah i see now

[crisp pine]

can i get worldquests at 50? or do you need 60

[silent oar]

50 For BFA World Quests, 60 for Shadowlands World Quests

[crisp pine]

oh cool where do i see the bfa ones? i cant find them @silent oar

[vale hawk]

Lmao yes kind of an important thing https://www.wow-petopia.com/abilities.php

[vale hawk]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/battle-for-azeroth-world-quests#how-to-unlock-bfa-world-quests

[ionic terrace]

Hello,
A friend of mine has started to play wow. He wanted to know if he uses the 60 boost on his first character he could skip the story on his alts afterwards. Or does he need to do it once "legit" ? He is already level 52 and he wants to boost a second character to skip the story on the 52 one.

[vale hawk]

Campaigns and features generally always need to be played through fully at least once before alts can take advantage of skip mechanics

[fervent bone]

Also dont skip it you are new

Ever.

[vale hawk]

Many would also recommend against using a boost on a class you've never leveled before

[silent oar]

Better to learn the class though leveling it then skipping and getting all the abilities with zero idea how to use them.

[raven flint]

so i bought some pack slot bag things from a pack merchant and it wont let me use them ... says no equipment slot available

[silent oar]

This for the bank or just your bags you have on hand to hold items?

[raven flint]

bags on hand

[silent oar]

to upgrade your bags to new ones you need to empty one and remove it from the slot before you can put the new bag there

[raven flint]

ohhhhh ok

thank you i shall try that

ahh so they just replace the bags you already have .. damn i thought they added to them, i see some people with massive bag space

[silent oar]

Indeed, bags are individual items, most of the big bags are the crafted ones. A Tailor profession can make them with the correct materials.

[raven flint]

ahhh kk thanks

[silent oar]

^.^ np!

[hard imp]

is there a way to swap my cov and keep progress or do i need to reset completely

[vale hawk]

This isn't exactly correct--you can't equip a bag that's inside the bag you're trying to replace, and right-clicking only work for bags when they're A- free for an empty slot and B- not bind-on-equip

[vale hawk]

The covenant you leave keeps all progress. When you swap back it will be how you left it and you can swap back with no rejoin penalty if you have max renown

[hard imp]

so if i wanna perma swap ill have to restart on that new one?

bc rn im a maxed out venthyr but need to swap to a diff one for more dps

[vale hawk]

If you swap to a new covenant you have to begin progress with that new covenant

[hard imp]

shiiiiit no point in swapping itll take forever to max it out

[vale hawk]

It won't take forever at all. There's an item from the vendor next to the flight master in Oribos for 40 renown, and campaign quests drop crazy renown if you're not capped. Not to mention all of the other easy activities that drop renown

You can swap covenants and be 80 renown in a day or two

@hard imp

[hard imp]

might have to do that then

[vale hawk]

Many players already have all four covenants maxed out on their mains just for swapping. It's only a grind if you make it a grind

[pallid fulcrum]

i want a first person camera addon

[hard imp]

scroll in

[vale hawk]

You can just scroll to first person perspective using the mouse wheel--but it's not viable for most forms of gameplay. This game isn't really designed to be played in first person

[pallid fulcrum]

ya

and do you know why i move the mouse and sometimes game doesnt move camera for 1-2 sec. addons disabled

[silent oar]

Didn't mention it was a bag within the bag needing replacing or that they are BoE. >.>

[vale hawk]

I'm just saying, you can equip a bag without emptying the slot first

[silent oar]

Ah ok, I uh got a little confused with the way it was worded

I'm used to just removing the bag from the slot and putting the new bag in.

[vale hawk]

That's one way to do it, but the simplest way is to just click and drag to equip the bag as long as it isn't inside the bag you're replacing

[vale hawk]

Check your camera and mouse settings in the interface options

[raven flint]

i seem to be having an issue, or i dunno if its an issue or not but when i go to a flight master tonight it only lets me fly within the zone im in ... before i could have sworn ive flown out of zone

like kalimdor to zandalar

[azure reef]

that was probably via the boat

not the flightmaster

since you get to zandalar on boat

[vale hawk]

Or via portal, yes

But generally, flight masters will not take you between expansion zones

[raven flint]

oh ok so im misataken then must have been doing smtg else lol

[crisp pine]

is there any actual reason to do any of the professions? im a warrior

[vale hawk]

Profit, quality of life improvements, consumables, buffs, crafting, etc

[crisp pine]

whats the best for profit and what quality of life improvements? thanks

[vale hawk]

Profit depends on your local realm economy and can change over time and requires research to figure out. Quality of life is primarily subjective, because what's useful for one person might be trash to another

If you're a warrior you can't go wrong with mining and blacksmithing

[crisp pine]

ah nice cause i started farming linen to craft bigger bags instead of buying them because im looking stuff to do cause i dont have shadowlands haha

[crisp pine]

anyone wanna play with me eu

[languid trench]

how do i increase my gear score at lvl 50

[umbral saddle]

Quests/gear from AH/normal dungeons (assuming this isn’t normal dungeon queue)

[pallid fulcrum]

Hello guys. I am new to this game so could someone please tell me simply how to unlock the damn flying?

Every youtube video says "oh you shoud just complete the quests". Which ones? I am on Zulzadar right now and I don't know where to go or which quest to complete to unlock flying

[vale hawk]

https://www.wowhead.com/battle-for-azeroth-pathfinder-how-to-unlock-flying-in-bfa

[pallid fulcrum]

oh, that's a nice guide. Thanks

[hasty spear]

which flying do you mean? Bfa flying (and also shadowlands flying) is more special compared to normal flying which is unlocked at... lv 30 iirc.

[pallid fulcrum]

I have no idea which one. I am not on shadowlands yet so I guess I want to learn normal flying first

[hasty spear]

Normal flying works in most older zones, for flying in Northrend, Pandaria, Draenor you have to buy a skill "upgrade" at the same trainer where you learned the normal flying. For BFA and Shadowlands Flying you have to meet the requirements to unlock them. For BFA that the Pathfinder Achievements which Gumball linked you and for Shadowlands its reaching a specific Renown level.

So if you're not level 30 yet just keep questing. i would recommend to leave bfa for shadowlands once you hit 50 and not bother with unlocking flying there yet

[pallid fulcrum]

I am lvl 45. So do I just buy flying now from trainer? And if so which trainer is that and where can I find one?

[hasty spear]

i guess you're horde? head to orgrimmar. you should have got a quest to learn normal flying once you've hit the appropriate level that leads you there

[vale hawk]

You should have gotten a quest [I Believe You Can Fly] at level 30. That will take you to the flying trainer and basic flying mount vendor next to the flight point at your faction capital city

[forest lily]

I Believe You Can Fly - https://www.wowhead.com/quest=32674/i-believe-you-can-fly - Live 9.2.0

I Believe You Can Fly

Live 9.2.0

[pallid fulcrum]

Thank you

[marsh flower]

So I bought myself a new mouse a couple days ago and trying to add keybinds to the new buttons, but it removes 3 and 4 which I already have something else on.. I dunno what to do to change that

The mouse I use is Ironclaw rgb

[hasty spear]

first of all: fuck the ironclaw. i had 2 different ones and both had the problem that they froze atleast 15 times a day so that i couldnt use my macro buttons anymore and had to replug it.
second: configure all of the buttons you want to use in icue and map them to buttons on your keyboard like numpad buttons or others you wouldnt use normally. then map these buttons ingame to keybinds you want to set

[marsh flower]

So what ur saying I should return it and take another mouse?

xD

[hasty spear]

imo yeah but i think you should first try it out. maybe you wont run into the same problem

i really love Corsair Products i have pretty much every possible peripheral for my PC from Corsair but their mice can go fuck themselves

[pale root]

true, I used to play with the scimitar but switched to razer naga trinity and loving it ever since

[hasty spear]

i cant recommend an alternative since im very picky and my go to mouse is not in production anymore but im sure you will find something. First try if the Ironclaw works for you but if you run into any problems more than twice then return it

[marsh flower]

Is razer synapse like icue? Bc I have that on my laptop already and I can't install smth bc I don't have admin access on this laptop

Obv not the same but I hope u get what I mean

[pale root]

I had no issues setting up my mouse with wow

very easy to configure

[hasty spear]

its similar software but you cant use them interchangeably

razer software wont control corsair hardware and vice versa

[marsh flower]

Yeah no I know but thats the config for razer no? Bc them imma just return it bc I don't want to wait for admin access

[hasty spear]

why arent you admin on your PC tho? damn the last time i had a similar problem was back then when i was 5 and used a PC i shared with my brother

[marsh flower]

Its my brothers laptop and he borrows it to me

Ig I can ask that.. smort idea

[hasty spear]

i see... well i guess getting permission to install icue would still be faster than returning the ironclaw and buying another mouse

[mellow shore]

Hey everyone, hope y'all are having a wonderful day wherever you are. Am here to ask what are some important (TLDR would work too) info I need to return to 9.2, as I left at the end of 9.0.5. Anything that would seem essential with links, I would appreciate it.

[pale root]

you dont have to run torghast for legendary upgrades

[pale root]

Also I feel like if you've neither done 9.1.5 or 9.2 you might wanna try it out for yourself, dont judge a book by its cover

[hot lily]

So need to do tirna vaal chapter 2 to progress with shadowlands campaign but I can't start it, I know where it starts but it doesn't appear on my map, tried relogging and stuff anyone have a fix

[hasty spear]

idk what you need help with but have a look at the rules

[mellow shore]

Understood thanks alot, also no more torghast runs for upgrades eh? I'll look that up

[mellow shore]

Will look into that

[hot lily]

Ty

[round lotus]

Hey guys, I'm leveling an Alt and does anyone recommend a good zone of ​​Shadowlands to do quests?

[brazen dock]

where is that place

the burning throne

[pale root]

raid in legion argus

[brazen dock]

oh legion

alright

[pale root]

specifically the Argus zone

[brazen dock]

legion has some cool sets

[pale root]

true

legion and wotlk

[brazen dock]

WAIT

WHERE IS FIRELANDS

[pale root]

mount hyjal

[brazen dock]

what continent?

[pale root]

kalimdor

[brazen dock]

found it

[pale root]

there's a tp from SW/Org

[brazen dock]

ALRIGHT

[stone aurora]

hi new healer here. What is the add on that puts the ppl on your party in too big boxes bar to ez track and heal them?

[round lotus]

You can do it Without addon, ESC > Interface > Raid Profiles

Turn on the Raid profiles and configure

[stone aurora]

ahh ok someone told me Healbot, but I will try your way @round lotus

[hasty spear]

i would have also said healbot. thats the first addon that comes to mind when i think about healing

[pale root]

tbh normal raid profiles and clique/mouseover macro works just great

or like vuhdo/elvui for unitframes

[stone aurora]

👍🏾

[stone aurora]

wonder if i need to thinker with it before using or it is good right from the box

[hasty spear]

i always tinker with my configuration you probably have to setup some macros and stuff without the addon too

[stone aurora]

ok

[deft egret]

can i solo Maa'run? Level 41 fury warrior atm

[pale root]

sure its pretty easy just use your garrison ability

that summons the guards attacking

and pop CDs and go berserk dps

[deft egret]

yup, just did it lol

thanks

[pale root]

the guy in frostfire ridge is way harder ;d

[deft egret]

i faced shinri just now, it was harder lol

but i didn't use garrison this time

[stone aurora]

to level fast BFA or Draenor?

[pale root]

Draenor is considered to be the fastest lvling zone

[stone aurora]

ahh ok no wonder AutoPilot add on tells me to do it

[vale hawk]

1- most experienced players don't recommend using AAP or auto-skip addons
2- WoD is only good for leveling if you're using Chromie Time

[fervent bone]

Aap is nice

Brain off follow Route

Zero experiencing the zone

But for your 15th alt that's fine

[pale root]

I can understand if you're brand new to the game and want to experience everything AAP is not good cus it skips a lot of stuff

But for just alt-leveling its good

[fervent bone]

Ye for New players do whatever you feel like

Most things give good exp

[velvet sparrow]

AAP is a bad Add-on all around but to each their own.

[pale root]

generally curious as to why people think that

Do people think that about Leatrix too?

[hasty spear]

Leatrix What? They have multiple Addons. But none of them compare to aap do they?

[pale root]

leatrix plus specifically

[hasty spear]

i've used that one mainly for replaying cutscenes/cinematics dont know what else it does but it does a bunch of things. i guess it has its use cases

[pale root]

yeah I was just wondering if its the quest skip thingy that people dislike AAP mostly for

cus I know leatrix has some of those skip functions too

[vale hawk]

Too many people who don't know any better download AAP and either are ignorant to the features it's skipping or routes it's taking or end up complacent and pass a campaign skip or enter a leveling zone that needs Chromie Time to be useful or any of the other problems with AAP that new/unaware players run into and ask for help about here in this very channel at least once a week

[pale root]

I see

So people that are new to the game basically

not players just lvling alts

[vale hawk]

If you know what you're doing, still pay attention when you need to pay attention, and are experienced with all of the assumed prerequisites a player should have then AAP isn't a problem

[pale root]

I can understand that

[vale hawk]

Also players leveling alts who are either returning or the kind who don't pay attention to patch notes, system changes, skip introductions, or skip dialog and quest windows and have no idea what they're doing

Pretending that ignorant gaming doesn't exist is... well, ignorant

These are regular issues here with AAP. Just ask @velvet sparrow or @azure reef or @umbral saddle too, to name a few other people here who try to talk people out of the holes they're digging

[velvet sparrow]

^

Honestly, I try to advise ppl who are using it to lvl alts, to not bother either. I generally enjoy lvling and try to convince those who are lvling alts, to not just use AAP and turn their brain off. I love to advise players to actually lvl, try to experience the story in new ways. I'll never tell a player, new or old, to use such Add-ons that makes lvling mindless

[vale hawk]

I just try to talk them out of it because it's easier than potentially causing yourself more problems when you can just avoid them altogether

[pale root]

Never used it cus I like doing sideline quests etc

[vale hawk]

It's a cluster headache of pebkac that can easily be avoided

AAP is a technical pain in my helpful ass

[velvet sparrow]

1000%

When I came back to WoW in Legion, I tried using AAP and it was nothing but migraine inducing problems

[vale hawk]

I've only ever used AAP so I could replicate problems and tell people where they fucked up

[velvet sparrow]

Only thing I use Leatrix Plus for is listening to Jade Forest or Grizzly Hills music anywhere in the game

The absolute BEST lvling add-on is BTWQuests, whichs shows you every quest chain in a branching Tree format, allowing easy tracking of where you are in a questchain, all the rewards you get for them, etc

[vale hawk]

You don't play your OST tracks? For shame

Fake WoW nerd

[velvet sparrow]

x3

I'm one of the few ppl in WoW who DONT mute sounds and ingame music

I love it

[vale hawk]

Same

[pale root]

Probably would've too if I didn't watch tv shows/streams while playing

[pallid fulcrum]

BTWQuests is invaluable for getting The Loremaster achievement!!!
Especially if you also use TomTom - You can click on the quest and the arrow will take you to QuestGiver.

so i rotate camera with mouse, and then suddenly rotation stops and cursor appears, and after i move the mouse a bit it starts to rotate the camera again and the cursor disappears

[hard mountain]

Hello how are you, I wanted to ask if I buy the "Dark Portal" edition of TBC, can I save the level up for WOTLK?

[raven flint]

If I start a new character before I have a LVL 50 and then get it to level 50 when the new character is, say level 15, can I then use Cromie time or does it have to be on a new new character?

[vale hawk]

Chromie Time is only available for characters level 10-50 once unlocked

Once you hit 50 you exit Chromie Time permanently

[raven flint]

Oh ok cool so I'm good then .. thanks!

Ok sorry got another question .. Ive seen that u can pay in game gold for a token to pay the monthly sub .. how much gold does said token cost?

[velvet sparrow]

157,266g for NA
269,828g for EU

[raven flint]

Holy moly lol

[pallid fulcrum]

is leveling in exiles reach a lot faster than in red cloud mesa(tauren starter)?

[azure reef]

yes

[weak prism]

can someone please come help me kill Antros on alliance

[azure reef]

youre better off checking ingame raid or custom groups

aint gonna find 20+ people on a disc to help

[weak prism]

@azure reefcant because blizzard silenced me lmao

[azure reef]

too bad then

[weak prism]

ok

[velvet sparrow]

Mulgore*

And definitely faster

Just less iconic and tranquil

[pallid fulcrum]

🙂 i am from the times where mulgore was uber

[umbral saddle]

maybe but doesn't LoH have a limit too it wouldn't heal him to 100% just like your max health or 200% of your health?

[atomic falcon]

Do I still have to complete Broken Shore on my alt to get class mount?

[azure reef]

no

if youve got the breaching the tomb you can just talk to the npc near the mage tower

[atomic falcon]

Do you know the name of the quest?

[azure reef]

idk ur spec so no

[atomic falcon]

warlock

[azure reef]

itll be a vendor of your class tho

[atomic falcon]

ok ty

Got it cheers

[velvet sparrow]

You do, its just account wide now

[umbral saddle]

yeah he could it would just give them 100% of their own health

[velvet sparrow]

You have to do it at least once

[raven flint]

any ideas for a quest that doesnt wanna work? called "frazzledazz outpost" .. ive tried abandoning quest and quitting game, tried leaving area and coming back and part of it still no work

[raven flint]

sigh tried all those sadly lol

[atomic falcon]

Report bug ingame

I'm sure they will get round to fixing it

[raven flint]

how do you do that?

[atomic falcon]

Esc > Support

Then select In-game issues

[raven flint]

kk thank you

[atomic falcon]

:))

[raven flint]

should be fixed in few yrs

[azure reef]

dont know how this is relevant to wow help

but ok

[umbral saddle]

Uhhh…self promo? Idk

[hasty spear]

not the first time they posted this completely without context

[silent oar]

You might be better posting your work in #no-wow-discussion, considering this channel is for helping people with questions about the game and such.

[forest lion]

ohh sry wrong channel

[sinful fossil]

hi i need some help

[drowsy oyster]

with what

[sinful fossil]

I downloaded WoW and i really enjoyed it but idk what to buy to fully play it

i see a subscription for 12 a month

and then I see shadowlands

[drowsy oyster]

well if you only want to spend a little you could grind 200k gold each month to play after buying shadowlands. Since blizzard is a subscription based model they require the players to buy the edition and a subscription

[silent oar]

Shadowlands is the current expansion, but if you just want to play the game for a while to still learn it, I'd say stick to trail account or pay a a sub to experience the game without the restrictions.

You'll have access to all past expansions minus Shadowlands stuff

[drowsy oyster]

pretty much

[silent oar]

Which is pretty good for a trail

[sinful fossil]

hmmmm

[drowsy oyster]

it's a trial neek

[sinful fossil]

is there a lot of people who play without shadowlands?

[silent oar]

I'm sure there are plenty, but most who sub the game for a long period of time play with current expansion stuff

[drowsy oyster]

most that do tend to play classic wow ^^

[potent helm]

so I reupped my sub for wow to checkout new content, but the chains of domination beginning is doing a covenant switcheroo on me if i start it. is there any downside in doing that? im only at reknown 34

[silent oar]

Are you wanting to switch your covenant or wanting to stick to it?

[potent helm]

i dont mind switching if the progress is preserved for switching back later to complete it further

[drowsy oyster]

it would be pretty miserable if the game deletes covenant progress :>

[potent helm]

and i dont think i can start chains of domination without switching from my current as when i click on it - its telling me ill be switching

[silent oar]

You will not lose the renown you earned with the covenant, but starting a new one you have to level it back from the beginning

you can always switch back to the previous covenant

[potent helm]

coolio

that is fine with me

the tooltip should be a bit more clear on that part lol

[silent oar]

Little weird though its asking you to switch, I did the campaine quests and never got asked to

[potent helm]

what cov were you?

the smurf one i assume

[drowsy oyster]

and the you lose followers in your covenant

[silent oar]

Ye, smurf one xD been that since launch.

[potent helm]

ya chains requires that to start it

so you got an advantage lol

[silent oar]

Ah

interesting

[drowsy oyster]

i picked the vampire one since launch

cause it i liked how it looked with my warrior

[silent oar]

Vamps are pretty good. Guess I just like my little Swolekin too much bringing me extra healing potions x3

[drowsy oyster]

my warrior heals from killing, all he knows is murder. 👀

[potent helm]

the biggest thing i realized coming back to the game was two things, I have no clue what do with all the items I have stored, and that I remember how much i hate the maw lol

[silent oar]

Choregast is not my cup of tea, I spent almost little to no effort in the maw. When I rescued souls I stayed close to the spawn and just stood in one spot slowly freeing souls from the stone things.

[sterile ice]

just wondering. ive never really played THAT much wow. My first time was BFA and I own shadowlands, but I've never fully levelled a character. IDK I guess what I am asking is like is it fun? I hear it getting shit on a lot and like I don't want to invest a bunch of time into a bad game. I'm just nervous and unsure if its worth playing.
I play other mmos and have done dungeons/raids in destiny/ffxiv. Leveled in lost ark but it wasnt for me. How do you guys have fun in the game? Like am I so far behind that I should just wait for Dragonflight?

[potent helm]

i think it just depends on what you consider fun. ive enjoyed leveling alts and professions regardless when i join in

[sterile ice]

I guess I just don't really know what the game has to offer

[umbral saddle]

I like to collect things so getting a bunch of transmogs I’ll never use is my jam

[raven flint]

prob best get the 1 month sub and play for a month and see

i just strated last wk and am enjoying it so far

[smoky jackal]

Hey guys which cov should I join for sub rogue? Kyrian or Venthyr?

[vale hawk]

You don't have to switch covenants to do any part of the campaign, I'm not sure what you're talking about

[potent helm]

You have to be kyrian cov

[vale hawk]

No you don't

Any covenant can start the Chains of Domination campaign

You did something wrong

When you start it you have to report to Oribos to speak with Polemarch Adrestes--you talk to him to view a cutscene and then speak to Bolvar again

If you're swapping to the Kyrian covenant, then you picked the wrong dialog option because you weren't reading what you were doing

[potent helm]

I was reading thx.

[vale hawk]

Polemarch Adrestes has two dialog options in that moment: show me what happened, and how do I join the Kyrian

Obviously next time you start Chains, don't click the join Kyrian one

[potent helm]

My question was making sure that if I switched, I wouldn’t lose my reknown from previous.

I don’t care about the switch since I wanted to do it anyways. I was more concerned with the progress

[vale hawk]

Progress stays the same with the covenant you leave. It'll be how you left it when you go back

Been like that since launch

[potent helm]

Yes I’m aware. My questions were already answered.

Thanks for the reassurance

[vale hawk]

I was more concerned about this: "and i dont think i can start chains of domination without switching from my current as when i click on it - its telling me ill be switching" and "ya chains requires that to start it"

[potent helm]

Which was clarified later

I’m all set and have what I needed and already am well in the journey so It’s all good

The bigger issue I have is sorting through my completely full bank trying to figure out what I can get rid of lol

[vale hawk]

Must have missed the comment that said you don't have to be Kyrian to do Chains. My bad. Just didn't want that incorrect loose end floating around for the next person in chat

[potent helm]

No worries!

[exotic quiver]

Hi everyone, quick question, I'm working on my UI, I was trying Dominos and wanted to know if is there a way to keep the blizz action bar art with the gryphons? Bartender has an option to enable it and I've tried a lot of ways to keep it but this time in Dominos, also tried Sunn Viewport Art but I can't find any option, any help is welcome

[pale root]

Dominos does not have that option

[neon peak]

sooo I'm kinda a solo player, is there a faster way to get Rylakstalker's Piercing Fangs?

[vale hawk]

Yeah--by just using the Dungeon Finder tool to queue for random Spires of Ascension dungeon groups

[rough abyss]

yo is there someone who could explain to me how you make higher rank Shadowghaust rings/necklaces? do i just have to keep crafting them and gain experience?

[vale hawk]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/shadowlands-legendary-gear-crafting-upgrading#base-items

[rough abyss]

ty! i couldnt find a guide like this, just on how to craft the 9.2 stuff

[hidden prairie]

are there any useful/helpful thing or items that I can buy or obtain for an easier torghast run?

I'm farming renown on all 4 covenents

just speed running all the floors untill I reach the floor 5 end boss

but sometimes I'm dying because of too much damage

I play fury warrior

[vale hawk]

Honestly, with the 40 renown vendor item and campaign quests dropping crazy renown as rewards, I would say it's faster to just to do the campaigns

Especially if you're dying as a fury warrior in Torghast--that's just whack

[deft pelican]

How do I get into raiding? I join a guild with 300 people in it, but the raid team is only 20 people or whatever... Wow endgame seems like a lot of gatekeeping

[vale hawk]

Find another guild then. There's nothing wrong with looking around for the right guild or community until you find one that works best for you

You can use the in-game Guild & Communities window to browse through recruitment advertisements and filter through them to help find more specific kinds of guilds

[pale root]

Do they not have tryouts for new trials in the raid team?

If not then I would just leave the guild and find a new one

There's plently of welcoming guilds

[vale hawk]

Different guilds run their groups in different ways. For example--I'll invite people who aren't even on my realm but I'll automatically exclude anyone who isn't transmogged and slots with elves are replaceable

[rough abyss]

ik it's pretty late/early to ask but i could use two US players to help me do blood infusion for shadowmourne in retail, not sure if this is the right channel to ask in tho

[vale hawk]

You might have more luck asking in-game in Trade chat, honestly

It's 4-7AM in the US right now lol

[rough abyss]

my server is dead for alliance 🥲

[vale hawk]

🪦

[rough abyss]

came back to find out that most people transferred to horde or to a new server. i plan to change but it's so expensive lol

[pale root]

You could just wait until 9.2.5 comes out with cross-faction instances and see if the population changes anything

Before you throw money on transfer

[vale hawk]

Ah. One of the many reasons I play both factions

[rough abyss]

same, but my progress is on my dk which is ally 🥲

[deft pelican]

If they do tryouts they aren’t advertised…

[pale root]

That's understandable if they're a social/casual guild as well

[rough abyss]

have you asked? it could help to whisper an officer

[deft pelican]

Why do you exclude those who aren’t transmogged?

[pale root]

cus they look like shit most of the time

[vale hawk]

It's like someone showing up to a job interview with no pants on

Or wearing mismatching pajamas

Or crocs

[pale root]

You literally have the option to look good and yet choose to ignore it

I can get behind that decision

[vale hawk]

Exactly this. If you don't even care about how you look, how can you be expected to care about mechanics?

[deft pelican]

well i dont really have anything to transmog to, since im new... :/ and you level up so fast nowadays you dont really unlock any good tmogs

i want to do mythic nathria for the set - its gawgeous

[pale root]

There's some really good looking "sets" on AH that are cheap tbh, depending on if you're female or male

[deft pelican]

ah, never really looked at AH much

i cant wait until 10.0 and i can just buy a pvp set and upgrade, so i dont have to keep spending gold on tmogs every time i get a new piece of gear lol

[rough abyss]

the longer you play the more gold you will get pretty easily

gathering professions are really good at the start of an xpac

[vale hawk]

And old raids or dungeons are an excellent source of mogs. Many guilds do transmog runs in legacy content every other week

[deft pelican]

are these new fated raids scaled up or do they just drop those consumables which upgrade gear?

[vale hawk]

They scale, but current tiers are also craftable/upgradable

Creation Catalyst so based

[deft pelican]

i think the nathria mogs are the best so far tbh

idk why only mythic sets retain the glow effects though, as if everyone occupies the 0.1% that do mythic raids...

[vale hawk]

I think you're thinking about the World First guilds. Plenty of other guilds and communities do mythic raiding

You're making a lot of emotionally-charged assumptions and generalizations. You might be unintentionally gatekeeping yourself, friend

[deft pelican]

well, everywhere i've read it says that only the 'top' guilds do mythic raids

[vale hawk]

No, only the "top" guilds participate in the World First push

Many people mythic raid well after the coverage has ended

[deft pelican]

how much harder than heroic are they?

broadly speaking

[vale hawk]

Significantly, with new mechanics and even encounters on top of additional scaling

If that's something you have to ask I strongly recommend looking into the mythic community more. There's a lot you can learn that would surprise you

[deft pelican]

how should i look into it?

ive read of course that raids get exponentially more difficult, but i was also led to believe that few guilds do mythics because of it

[pale root]

What's your take on "few"

[vale hawk]

Wowhead, joining one of the many community discords for wow and talking to people who participate, finding a guild or community that teaches new players the ins and outs of raiding, etc

[pale root]

I'm generally curious

[vale hawk]

https://www.wowhead.com/discord-servers

[deft pelican]

well i think when i was looking up 'wow beginner guids' or similar, i remember reading about raids and on a few different pages it said that 'only the top 1% of guilds participate', something like that

should i work my way up from normal to heroic and then mythic, then?

[pale root]

You can't just join a mythic raiding guild from start yeah

[vale hawk]

There are a LOT of helpful people in these servers, up to and including guide writers and theorycrafters, who you can talk to in order to learn more

[vale hawk]

You're still making too many assumptions and acting on them as fact, that's a problem

[pale root]

It takes a lot of effort put into your character to progress mythic raiding

[deft pelican]

yeah, that's how i got this discord just now - also worldofpvp, since im primarily interested in pvp

[deft pelican]

well i cant help it if a lot of beginner guides say that

[vale hawk]

Alright, I'm just pointing you to more servers

[pale root]

The guides are wrong then

[vale hawk]

Can you cite these guides?

[pale root]

Or just out-of-date

[deft pelican]

ill have a look, s'been a while

[vale hawk]

Because I'd like to see their legitimacy

It sounds more like forum opinions than what you'd read on an actual guide

[deft pelican]

im pretty sure they were pretty well-established, but i cant remember

[pale root]

Looking at stats from Bellular video can give you that opinion though cus numbers have decreased a lot

But its not just "a few" or 0.1%

And the fact that it requires so much effort put into the game

That many people don't have these days

[deft pelican]

is bellular the irish guy?

[pale root]

brittish? I think

[vale hawk]

Like, I'm on an RP server and there are always mythic raiding guilds who are active

[deft pelican]

i cant seem to find any mention of mythic raiding being rare right now, maybe i searched for 'beginner guide to raiding' or something, but it was definitely a written guide

[rough abyss]

same, my guild tries to prog mythic but they're stuck on jailer heroic rn. They also only prog 2 nights a week and are mostly middle aged people with kids so they dont have a ton of time to invest. super sweet people tho

[deft pelican]

is using dbm enough for raid mechanics or would i still need to read up about them?

[rough abyss]

mythic will take awhile to get into. you're gunna want to start by doing normal and working your way up. Mythic is a different type of beast, there are plenty of guilds looking for raiders. But you'll those guilds will have required you to have cleared heroic.

[pale root]

that would depend on what difficulty you're raiding

Also I would recommend using BigWigs instead of DBM

I think lots of guilds run bw instead of dbm

[deft pelican]

so its better to read up about mechanics and use bigwigs instead of relying on dbm? and i should use wowhead/icy veins and not the in-game guide?

[rough abyss]

You dont really need a guild for normal, just learn up on a raid and find a group in the finder, having a static is nice, but it's a decent workaround til you find a guild

[vale hawk]

If you read up on the mechanics you won't need DBM--you should read them whether or not you use DBM

[pale root]

BigWigs works in the similar way DBM does, its just the layout that are different

[rough abyss]

i usually just watch a video

[pale root]

Settings and layout

[vale hawk]

Why would... what???

[deft pelican]

i do prefer the minimalism of bigwigs, but i guess the flash warnings in dbm are handy for a newbie.

[vale hawk]

Addons should be used after research, not as a replacement

Or substitution

Always read up on mechanics first wtf is this lmao

[deft pelican]

geeez louise papa cheese

[vale hawk]

Sorry, it's just the logic of it

Or lack of

nvm me

[deft pelican]

i mean, doesnt dbm tell you what to do?

[pale root]

not really

It keeps track of the mechanic timers

[vale hawk]

Not exactly, and you should rely on that as your first resort

[pale root]

You still need to learn the fight

Now whether you do that by manually reading through the adventure guide or watching a video is up to you

Some people learn faster by having someone explain than reading it by themself

[vale hawk]

Your first responsibility should always be to read the in-game adventure guide mechanics first, then afterwards (optional) read up an encounter guide from a reputable source, then you use the addons just as reminders to help remember what the mechanics are that you've read up on

[deft pelican]

ok

[vale hawk]

If you go in blind and just rely on DBM and bigwigs, I can understand why you feel like you're being gatekept from raiding

[deft pelican]

so they have different guides for different difficulties in-game?

[pale root]

You'd have to look

[vale hawk]

Yes. Different difficulties have different mechanics, and you can even read them up in the in-game adventure guide

[deft pelican]

its not so much that im relying on the addons, its just that most of the time i cant really see shit on my screen, so its diffcult to know when im supposed to stand in a circle or something

[vale hawk]

Always read about an encounter's mechanics before you run the encounter

[deft pelican]

i frequently get knocked off platforms to my death as well, because i got hit by an aoe even though i thought i was far enough away from it

maybe i need to turn my graphics up

[pale root]

doubtful

[deft pelican]

how can you see the rings youre supposed to stand in, through all the mess?

[pale root]

by practice

[vale hawk]

Study and practice

[pale root]

Upping the graphics doesn't change that

It'll just make you drop fps and die xD

[deft pelican]

just raiding generally will make me more comfortable with so much shit on screen? lol

[vale hawk]

As you learn how to raid, you'll learn how to sort through what you should and shouldn't be paying attention to--especially if you're aware of the encounter mechanics beforehand

[deft pelican]

yeah, right now im not sure where i should stand as a ranged dps or melee for instance - like, do melee enemies hit a cone in front of them or just who they are targeting?

[pale root]

[vale hawk]

Once you read the mechanics and then study an encounter guide for your spec, you'll learn where you need to be and why

[vale hawk]

It depends on the ability lmao

[deft pelican]

well, for example, fighting antros as part of a group: as a hunter, i will be playing at range, but my health will quickly be going down, so am i too far away from healer or something? i dont really understand those basics

[vale hawk]

I think you need to study the mechanics and the encounter more

[deft pelican]

ok

its a bit overwhelming as a nub

[vale hawk]

Okay, just learn read and study. Practice until you get better. That's literally life right there when you're new at anything

[raven flint]

Are transmogs applied permanently or does it change if I change the armor I'm wearing? Like in ESO you can "transmogs" your outfit but it'll stay no matter what armor your wearing

[deft pelican]

its per item, carol

[vale hawk]

Newly equipped gear has to be mogged again. You can save outfits, however, so that all you have to do is click "apply" when you talk to the transmog npc

You can create and save outfits both in the transmog window and in the collections/preview windows

[raven flint]

Oh ok so transmogs is more for when u got the gear u plan on keeping for a while then?

[vale hawk]

It's for whenever you want something you're wearing to look like something else you've collected

Simple as

[deft pelican]

Depends how much gold youre comfortable spending

[raven flint]

Yeah that part I knew. I just didn't know if I transmogd a LVL 40 hand piece of it would stay when I got a new LVL 50 hand piece

[vale hawk]

Nope. You mogged boots A, not boots B

[deft pelican]

Yeah, you have to redo it when you equip something new - bit of a pain

[vale hawk]

Think of it as painting the pants you're wearing green, and expecting the pants still in your dresser to be green now too

[deft pelican]

idk why they dont allow you to transmog a character as a whole tbh

[vale hawk]

What do you mean?

[deft pelican]

instead of applying it to items

[vale hawk]

???

You mean changing your character's appearance? You can at any barber shop

[deft pelican]

no i mean you gear, but instead of having to apply it to individual pieces or whatever, just being able to click 'disguise' or 'outfit' in the character menu

i dont like having to re-mog all the time

[vale hawk]

Because you changed that piece, not the other piece. Many people have multiple outfits saved and multiple piece of differently-mogged gear in their bags for that reason. Changing it to all change automatically would take away from the necessary gold sink that transmog needs to be, and it would cut down on the variety of custom outfits that people have already grown to expect

You have to think of the needs of the community as a whole and remember about the implications what you want would cause if applied

[deft pelican]

why does it 'need' to be a gold sink?

[vale hawk]

Because otherwise the gold economy would inflate even more

As characters gain more gold, systems need to exist to intake that gold so that the gold economy doesn't get flooded

Otherwise you're continuously generating more gold and depreciating its value

[raven flint]

Can the same transmogs be used multiple times or is it one and done?

[vale hawk]

You can mog things as much as you want

As long as you can afford it lol

[deft pelican]

can be applied an infinite number of times

[vale hawk]

Once you have an appearance unlocked, it's unlocked

[deft pelican]

how common are these guilds that do tmog runs?

[vale hawk]

(aside from bugs, mostly associated with shop items)

[vale hawk]

Most of them

[raven flint]

Oh ok cool I think I understand now lol thank you

[vale hawk]

Very common

[deft pelican]

cool

[vale hawk]

There are even entire communities that play from multiple realms that do transmog runs

[deft pelican]

guilds are staying faction exclusive arent they?

[vale hawk]

#beta-ptr-spoilers

Also, unconfirmed

Don't assume anything until it's in a patch note

[deft pelican]

its kind of a ball ache having to keep different faction characters on separate realms and then not being able to share gold

[vale hawk]

user-generated problem

[deft pelican]

weak argument, it would be a QoL benefit - what's the reason for maintaining guild-faction-exclusivity besides RP?

[vale hawk]

That isn't a discussion for this channel.

[deft pelican]

righto

[weak prism]

Can someone please tell me how I upgrade my zereth mortis leggo, to 291?

[vale hawk]

The leggo you get from the ZM campaign is not upgradable. You need to get the [Unity] power from the Enlightened reputation vendor at revered and craft it onto a 291 vessel, like regular Shadowlands legendary crafting

[forest lily]

Unity - https://www.wowhead.com/spell=364758/unity - Live 9.2.0

Unity

Live 9.2.0

[weak prism]

so I just buy it and go to the dude in torg and create it like we did with the first leggo?

[pale root]

yes, you need the same mount of cinders + ash + 2000 cosmic flux

[weak prism]

sweet thanks

guessing you also need the missives right?

[vale hawk]

ofc

[weak prism]

and the base peice

[pale root]

And the other stuff such as vessel + missives

[weak prism]

dope

[vale hawk]

You'll have to check a class/spec guide to see what slot you should craft it on

[pale root]

The quartermaster guy in ZM sells you the exact amount of cinders + ashes if you're honored or revered for 3 k cosmic flux

[vale hawk]

BiS can be different

[weak prism]

i think its waist for me WW monk

[vale hawk]

Wrong

Tbh you're best off putting it in boots

iirc bigger agi boost

Then you'd put Invoker's Delight on Helm

[weak prism]

idk how thats wrong xD

50 of the #1 ww monk all have it in waist

top 50 I mean

[vale hawk]

🤷

Meh I guess it doesn't really matter

[weak prism]

fair

crit and vers for missives I'm guessing?

[opal hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3of6bGRfTNo&t=693s does anyone know which transmog weapon the blood dk is using?

[vale hawk]

[Cloudsong Glaive]

[forest lily]

Cloudsong Glaive - https://www.wowhead.com/item=118409/cloudsong-glaive - Live 9.2.0

Cloudsong Glaive

Live 9.2.0

[vale hawk]

It's not available anymore

[opal hornet]

oof

[vale hawk]

It was a challenge mode reward from Warlords of Draenor

Similar to Mage Tower appearances from Legion, and the Proving Grounds sets from Mists

[opal hornet]

thats unfortunate :C

thanks for the info

do you maybe know of another 2h glaive that looks similar?

[vale hawk]

You could always check out wowhead.com/dressing-room and play around with things until you find what you like, then go to its page to find the source

[weak prism]

When im at runecarver looking at crafting options, theres nothing that says it has to be unity in order to have 2 leggos?

can I just crafter any of the powers?

[vale hawk]

One legendary can be Unity and the second legendary can be any other power

The only way you can wear two legendaries is if one of them is Unity and the other isn't

[weak prism]

but why doesnt it say this?

abit misleading lol

[vale hawk]

ok

[weak prism]

I just feel bad for anyone who crafted a random power after seeing people with 2 leggos

[vale hawk]

👍

[weak prism]

blizzard really does like to troll xD

[vale hawk]

It's not. The information is there and the guides exist. You're describing ignorance-based user error

[opal hornet]

you have to be really new to not know unity exists

[vale hawk]

And not be willing to read patch notes or even bothering to check out the "What's New?" when you hit esc

Or look at the launcher

Or read tooltips

etc

Could go on but it's kinda just being mean, not helpful

[opal hornet]

and the quest line i think aswell

[weak prism]

@vale hawkok, but half of the games playerbase is full of casual players, who dont want to go read a book every new update and just enjoy playing the game, theres nothing IN GAME that states "oh hey you can only have 2 leggos if 1 is unity"

so its not really ignorance based

[vale hawk]

k 👍

I accept that as your opinion

[weak prism]

and I accept that as urs 😅

[vale hawk]

What I'm saying isn't an opinion. It's a fact that the information both exists and is available for anyone who bothers to look at the information

[weak prism]

and what im saying isn't an opinion, numbers dont lie

look at % of raid bosses killed and actuall player count

its all there

[vale hawk]

I'm done with this conversation, it's irrelevant

[opal hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[weak prism]

got that right

[vale hawk]

Not for this channel either

[opal hornet]

the gallery thingy is pretty nice

didnt know it existed

[static wedge]

yo! just redownloaded wow again... Where do i start to catch up? i got a level 60 rogue but idk where to go

[rough abyss]

start korthia

[static wedge]

Whats korthia?

[rough abyss]

the 9.1 zone

[cerulean lagoon]

Go to ZM, it's more worthwhile than Korthia

[static wedge]

whats ZM?

[rough abyss]

flying is always more useful to me IMO

[cerulean lagoon]

Zerith Mortis

[rough abyss]

it's the 9.2 zone

[cerulean lagoon]

Korthia is a dead zone, Zerith Mortis is better for his Leggo and Flux

[static wedge]

My goal is to get good enough gear to push glad

[vale hawk]

Play the campaigns in release order, get the catch-up gear from the 9.2 Zerith Mortis zone, and then have at it

[rough abyss]

my korthia is far from deasd

[vale hawk]

Oh then just pvp

[rough abyss]

during prime time theres usually 50 people there

[static wedge]

glad easy this season?

elo inflated or no

[vale hawk]

Yes but if your goal is catching up to the current patch, Korthia is only relevant if you haven't done the campaign yet

[cerulean lagoon]

Yeah but you get no progression from Korthia, unlike Zerith where you get a lot of progression w/ set piece upgrades and dual-leggo

[vale hawk]

You need to look at the question contextually

[cerulean lagoon]

If he wants to push Glad, it's better to start there

[static wedge]

is it easier to get glad now then legion

[vale hawk]

Yes

Sure

Why not

[static wedge]

wait they added pvp gear?

[vale hawk]

Yep

[static wedge]

like pvp vendor

[vale hawk]

Yes

[static wedge]

God damn

blizzard woke up

[hearty grove]

Im around level 42 and i cant find quests anywhere for XP should i do dungeons until level 50?

[cerulean lagoon]

Where are you leveling through?

[vale hawk]

You might want to catch up on patch notes, friend. A lot has changed

[cerulean lagoon]

Which XPac

[static wedge]

Why? is it bad?

[hearty grove]

Pandaria ive checked a lot of continets though and nothing

[rough abyss]

did you go from 1-42 in panda land?

[cerulean lagoon]

There should be a guide in the main capital that gives you a quest to start in a new zone in Pandaland

[vale hawk]

Are you using Chromie Time and have completed every zone story in Pandaria and done all sidequests??

[hearty grove]

Most of the way yes but not completly

[vale hawk]

Does your map not show quest markers?

[hearty grove]

Alright i will do those things

[rough abyss]

you could have just ran out, mop is pretty short

[cerulean lagoon]

1-10 is Exile's Reach or home starting zone, 11-50 is Chromie Time

[vale hawk]

You can hit 50 before even finishing three zones

[static wedge]

rogue bis covenant the blue one?

[vale hawk]

Situational

[azure reef]

for assass fae is very good
for sub kyrian is very good

in pvp atleast

[vale hawk]

Rogue doesn't have a BiS for everything

[static wedge]

what spec is good rn?

[vale hawk]

Legit each cov has a strength rn

[azure reef]

for pvp it does

[static wedge]

wait wtf you can get 2 legendarys rn?

[vale hawk]

Venth still hitting hard in pvp

[vale hawk]

Yes, read the patch notes

[static wedge]

and you have to do 10000 dalies?

[vale hawk]

No???

[rough abyss]

yeah you have to finish the 9.2 story

[azure reef]

everyone is kyr tho cause it hits just as hard and is more reliable

[rough abyss]

you get a free 265 leggo belt

[azure reef]

and u get a pot

[static wedge]

Dont i have to do korthia dailies and zm dalies?

[rough abyss]

no

[static wedge]

fuck yeah

[rough abyss]

if you want to craft 291 leggos you have to do ZM dailies

[vale hawk]

You have to play the content that has the rewards you want from playing that content

[static wedge]

thats sick

[rough abyss]

well i guess you dont have to

[static wedge]

🥲

[cerulean lagoon]

If you want progression, ZM is progression

[rough abyss]

unless you wanna pay like 100k for one someone already made

[vale hawk]

You don't need to do dailies to get revered with the enlightened

[azure reef]

even then if u look at top players in pvp basically all of them are using the zm lego

so not needed at all

and 100k is a bit of a high roll unless ur on a dead server

[cerulean lagoon]

If you're coming back and wanting to do end-game stuff, you need to do the ZM questline at least to get the Unity belt for Dual-Leggo and the ability to upgrade gear to set pieces

[static wedge]

do they cost?

[vale hawk]

You get the 265 ZM leggo from the campaign

[static wedge]

aight

[vale hawk]

You should read the patch notes and wowhead's 9.2 content guide

[static wedge]

Will do

[vale hawk]

What do you mean legal??

I'm confused why wouldn't it be?

[hasty spear]

no its illegal to equip an item. blizz already dispatched their special item legality team to your location. please standby til their arrival. /s

[vale hawk]

Deleted the post. Weird

[chilly oracle]

Can I get some main advice? I usually play dps, but sometimes I tank / heal. None of the hybrid classes really appeal that much - should I just abandon the idea of tanking / healing, or should I main a spec I don't like as much so that I can tank / heal occasionally? Just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience

[hasty spear]

why dont you just play different characters with different classes for different roles?

no need to force yourself into a hybrid class

[chilly oracle]

Because the upkeep of multiple characters is a pain in the arse

[vale hawk]

Fair, but it's either get used to a hybrid class or manage a second main

Sometimes there can be a benefit to putting it the effort

[raven flint]

Is there any good YouTubers for WoW noobs like myself? I like erosiums vids but looking for another

[fringe swift]

For the vets, in your experience should RL be part of the officer core? Or does that not really matter.

[raven flint]

Also what's a good enemy health bar add on? I don't much like the vanilla one

[azure reef]

ive been using plater ever since i can remember

and honestly cant live without it

[hasty spear]

i've used ElvUI for pretty much everything and customized the hell out of it. none of the default nameplates, unitframes etc of any addon did it for me but i liked the general elvui style so i went with that

[velvet sparrow]

I love Kui

KuiNameplates

[velvet sparrow]

Pretty much all WoW content creators content is applicable to noobs.

[brittle halo]

Can I drop a nightfae mount using my kyrian alt that doesnt have nightfae renown?

[somber mural]

if it is specifically a night fae only mount no

which mount is it?

[brittle halo]

the korthia nf one

[frail mulch]

guyz is there a way to see old patch guides on wowhead?

[vale hawk]

You can search for ones for specific content, but why would you want an outdated guide?

You wouldn't be breaking the ToS and playing on a private server by any chance, right?

[cerulean lagoon]

Click the three dots, then go to Guide>Patches>Patch Notes

[somber mural]

one of the wilderlings?

[brittle halo]

yes

[somber mural]

ah yeah you have to be a night fae for those

[worn shore]

i want to tame a turtle but flynn keeps attacking them

how do i stop him

[vale hawk]

Trap the turtle, kill the other one

Or just trap the turtle

[worn shore]

ok i can try

[vale hawk]

What's to try? Just use a freezing trap

[worn shore]

try seeing if it works

it did thank you!

[vale hawk]

👍

You can also check petopia to see if there are other versions of the same model/color pet you want somewhere else, too

[worn shore]

NOOOOO HE BACAME SMALLL

[vale hawk]

In the future

Well yeah

Tamed pets are not the size they are when wild

Hunter pets are specific sizes, and stop growing at a certain point as you level

So if you're low level it'll be even smaller

[worn shore]

also i have found alot of items thats worth alot should i sell them?

[vale hawk]

If you don't need it or it's junk, sure

[vale hawk]

That's junk

[worn shore]

things like theese

[vale hawk]

Yeah, you sell those

[worn shore]

when should i not sell stuff

Crafting reagents?

[vale hawk]

When it's gear that's better than what you have, or something that's needed for a quest or a crafting reagent

Standard rpg/videogame/mmo rules

[worn shore]

should i sell old gear unless it belongs to a set?

[frail mulch]

@cerulean lagoon thanks mate

[vale hawk]

That's a really small question with a lot of big answers. If you have to ask if you need it and google/wowhead doesn't say you do, just assume you don't need it and can sell it

[cerulean lagoon]

No prob. You didn't answer @vale hawk's question tho, you're not using a private server, are you?

[pale root]

At lower level you pretty much sell anything that aren't better than what you're currently using, gold is needed later on for lots of stuff

[worn shore]

im farming mobs for drops worth 1 gold each

[pale root]

Don't worry about that quests give u lots of money too

And you'll farm lots of junk while doing quests from killing mobs and auto looting

[vale hawk]

Don't think about gold right now unless you need it for riding training

[worn shore]

does some abilities "evolve" or did i just loose my skill and get another one

[vale hawk]

Just focus on learning how to play

[vale hawk]

That can happen

You should also regularly check your spell and abilities menu

[worn shore]

im playing hunter and lost "steady shot" i think

[vale hawk]

Yes, because you're a beast mastery hunter

@worn shore I strongly recommend that at some point in the future you make a new character specifically to pay attention to the Exile's Reach starter zone. The tutorial windows, quests, and tips go a long way to help answer some of these questions you're asking right now

[worn shore]

ok i might do that depending on if i decide to get a subscription or not, but thanks for all the help!

[frail mulch]

@vale hawk i wanted to break what my friend said with proof, that i saw on old guide

[vale hawk]

The correct starting experience might go a long way towards helping you make that decision correctly 🙂

You're more likely to keep up a hobby if you start doing it the right way

[pale root]

To be fair there's no "right" way to play WoW, everyone likes to experience it in their own ways

[somber mural]

very true

[pale root]

That's what the game does best IMO

[vale hawk]

Yes, but it tends to be easier when you start at a beginning

Especially a more modern, up-to-date, and explanatory beginning

[pale root]

Ehh I have my own personal thoughts of Exile's Reach but whatever works best for beginners I'm all for it as long as you don't boost to 50

[cerulean lagoon]

Boost is to 60 now

[pale root]

right my bad

[vale hawk]

But what if that's the experience they want, I thought there was no wrong way!