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I feel like a world revamp should be next since we have Dragon Riding
pllzz
I mean, it’s not like faith can make people make mistakes in assuming things
Redo the entire old world with Dragon Riding in mind
plzz
Boom. Now I’m actually sold on the idea
plzz
Yeah but we're talking about Blizzard, they're not sublte. Most of the time when they write thing it's what it is, nothing subtle
I definitely think we’ll be seeing a new capital city at the end of the expansion though
Wdym we’re getting dalaran again at the end when khadgar comes back from SLs to assist us
I can’t do Dalaran again 😂
I think 10.3 will be life related zone with Elune and An'she and whatever will happens
Oh you’ll do it and you’ll like it
I would I hate that
i would love
10.3 are always the " jump the shark moment "
but dragons can fly
Look at Legion => We were on azeroth and we ended up on Argus and liberating the Titan's Pantheon
Not really. 4.3 didn’t take us to a new dimension
This is just a precedent since legion that hasn’t been very good for the story
legion is still the last best xpac
Bfa => Fighting for Azeroth, ending up in Nya'lotha
Shadowlands => Realm of death and suddenly the core of creation to rewrite reality ( in the shadowlands )
untill DF
Since we have hints about the creation of Life and what separated elemental and primalist from life, there is Life to be involved. And life => ELune and An'she , so somehow they'll be in this expansion. ( look at the mount and goodies we had for the six month and the transmog of celestial observer )
Moreover, there are the " Blue " Phoenix and the " Fire " Phoenix in dragon isles too. Which were theorized to be a "representation" of Mu'sha and An'she
I'm betting we'll have a crazy 10.3
but this is just a theory
I don’t want a crazy 10.3
A GAME THEORY
I just want a normal expansion then give us a crazy prepatch for 11.0
i would be too into my dracthyr to notice anything
lu

I feel like this is a bit of a stretch. The birds are colored after elements
Or the dragonflights
we never got red one as a mount bcuz the pet drakks stole it
Also, we were told we’d know the final boss by the end of 10.0
It’s DW!
whats DW
Deathwing
The leak said it was Murozond

We must go back in time to do spine of DW agai.
imagine if they make a derpy knockoff DW as a boss just for fun
like his tounge is out and shit
Well that leak also said we’d get an Allied Race as a preorder bonus
But this time it’s only LFR and there’s no chat box
Time changes 😏
and watch people go afk on the spine
But Murozond is a given. He's already hinted at the new Uldaman
u cant always believe leaks
i dont think we will get an allied race but who knows maybe blizz will surprise us
Plus, we also know by the mouth of the Winter Queen that dragons are Elune's "pets"
Not saying he won’t be a villain. I think he will. I just think the best idea I’ve seen is involving the Primalists winning and Nozdormu breaking the timeways and corrupting himself to stop that from happening
But we already killed him in End Time
i feel like murozond would be second to last boss
She’s talking about Ysera and only Ysera
yea she a pet alright
Because she’s… well, got Elune’s emblem on her face
We'll see anyway 🤷 At least this lore is more exciting than shadowlands
not BFA lore
MOP 2.0 was lame
I agree but the Lore did not revolve around Bwonsamdi
I remember really wanting high fantasy for Shadowlands initially but looking back I absolutely hated how Blizzard handled it and never want them touching cosmology with a 10 foot pole
At least not for a long while
Big facts
You know they will, with a 15 foot pole
I’ve pitched my own headcanon for the Jailer a couple times now and it pisses me off to no end how they botched what could’ve been such an easy win of a character
And before you realise, it'll be a 5 inches pole
You'll be chilling in an expack regarding a murloc invasion and suddenly you'll end up fighting void lords
You know what, if those void lords end up being giant purple murlocs I wouldn’t complain
For now, I think the craziest thing we got going on is Black Dragon drama with Wrathion and Sabellian fighting to be the Black Dragon Aspect
well, eventually we are definitely getting infinite dragonflight stuff
which involves old gods somehow
but thats about the craziest thing we should expect
or he steps down from the aspects to be with his husband anduin
Howdy y'all. Have there been any updates as to bringing the Dracthyr customizations into the Dressing Room?
not that ive seen
@dense ploverwhat's illidan''s role?
dying
lol
what are they all doing really XD
just sitting there for eternity
no entertainment
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ts baine sitting on the stairs except its in space with illidan
and hes playing tetris
no wait
hes playin raid shadow legends
Arclight rumble
why
Because they need a tie in
lol
kinda hilarious how separated northrend and EK are becoming over time though lol
like thankfully the in game map isnt canon but its very funny
i mean - theyre supposed to be decently far
thats why it was a whole endeavor for arthas to get there in WC3
it wasnt really hard to get there so much as to get through Northrend, he got there fairly fast
ok
still - it isnt supposed to be that close
considering how cold it is
i definitely expect them to move the continents to create more space and push northrend much farther north
pushing it north is fine, needed for Chronicle if anything, just pushing EK even further east would get ridiculous
oh for sure
i think they could move both the continents out to distort the map a bit
maybe shrink some of the smaller continents
New Uldaman
Old Uldaman
New on top of Old
Old on top of New
(By Wowpedia editor Sandwichman)
what's different
Dark parts are the new dungeon, green and orange are the old one
It actually fits perfectly with the old
These parts are the same
Basically once you reach Ironaya's room, old dungeon went right, new dungeon goes left into a new hallway and rooms
Then loops back around
oh i see so its not unnecessarily massive
could ask magni for directions ;p

i remember the old uldaman, man that one was fun.
especially if you didn't know what you were doing in there
nice times when you were allowed to enter a dungeon blind
now you are only allowed if you beaten it on a +30 key xd
they already said its just bioluminescence in one of their interviews right after the announcement
that normal dungeon you queue into exists
whoa nice
yea it does, it was very much exaggeration
that's crazy, nice detail tho
i wonder if theyre there for non-drakthyr
They are not, I checked a few minutes ago haha
lol even better
neat
also prevents people saying "why are there SI:7 agents hidden around stormwind" since you only know they would be there if you are a drakthyr
Yeah it makes it more clearly a "theyre stalking the dracthyr" than makingit seem like theyre stalking everyone
though I wouldnt be surprised if it eventually escalates to that, if they go further down the story path of turalyon becoming paranoid
I managed to not drink sugar right before bed
in the lore, can rogues stealth like that? 🤔
Yes, rogue invisibility is magic, not just hiding
Wonder how the horde is gonna react
Is the alpha alliance side only? Or is it just practically no one is making them horde side?
its open for both
Other then datamined assets, I've seen nothing posted horde side save a single soar over orgrimar vid
just more intrigue for alliance story haha
nodnod true. I know nearly nothing of this turalyon fella other then a few legion cutscenes. But he strikes me as "potentially the next arthas"
He just almost screams "I'll burn down a city and slaughter it's inhabitants if the light tells me to" vibe.
But maybe that's just me after the whole thing with Illidan And that one dead AF Naru
i dont think theres as much horde story to be had
and i think thats ok
sylvanas being the main antagonist meant that the horde was a present thought for everyone
giving that a bit of a break is good
im sure there will be some stuff throughout the expac since blood elves are present
but the horde is generally very accepting of new members
thanks for the info
are warriors also enhanced by something in some way?
cause I always wondered where regular people who don't use magic fit in
fueled by pure anger xd
For most races you can argue something else on top, like worgen are ultra strong because of the curse, Lightforged are infused, night elves might have some blessing, etc.
maybe Odyn helps them some since legion? although he aint much of a helper
Oh agreed! I moreso was meaning all the flavor text and Easter egg type things.
Like the pic above. I consider that flavor stuff and I'm excited to experience whatever dry humors the horde will have to throw my way. Like the crocolisk belt one
Also, for any that didn't know and have been debating the preorder for Drakks
He mount him own chicken when you mount up
Also give him a pet biscuit and he's almost as tall as male zamdalari
i dont have the money right now either
Yee I thought I'd share cause I thought it was cute
Lmao. The comments on the dead Dracthyr near guard picture are great
If I'm understanding it correctly, it's actually the guards that killed them!!
Maybe cause they phased in too fast or something. Not entirely sure
dont think so
i think its a response to flying/gliding
and they happened to die at the same time
I can't be certain. The comments paint it like it's fully new dialogue that hasn't been seen on other races
Still tho. Hilarious either way
well yeah
its race specific to you gliding/flying
but they happened to die when the line went off
no way the guard killed them
Oooh. Gotcha
I'm curious what sniped em tho. Outside stormwind inst exactly spooky to a level 58+
Oh! What kind of .. word for it. ... I mean basically voices, do Dracthyr have?
Accents? Tones?
Iirc voiced dialogue isn't in yet. Was moreso curious if you'd character has their customary grunts and yells
that was rough. man over here got me thinking there's D4 news
oh really?
crazy old dude
the catalogue was updated
oh damn
but thats not relevant to PTR
What happened?
callime me a liar after you lied about privacy laws doesn't help you much mr peach
IM SO EXCITED FOR ULDAMAN
it looks really really good
<@&299347348847329281> Can someone interject and get this troll to stop harassing peach
The wowhead post? Plan to look tomorrow
it was the first dungeon i remember running when i first started playing wow in TBC
when they announced it i actually thought it was the wrath dungeon, so im glad it isnt
its a call back to yeah
cool
Ulda is great yes, but tying it to wrath is a little much
im curious what sorta story we go there for
and the infinite flight being there is exciting
it isnt - i misunderstood
i mixed it up with a different dungeon
infinite is exciting no matter what
the fact they are making them present so early is very important
as far as prepatching goes. we should start to see DF indications soon from the next 3-4 patches
i expect their presence to continue to grow until the final patch
there are no more patches
I'm glad that I decided to wait and see what the naming conventions were like for dracthyr before reserving a name similar to dragonflight naming conventions like I've seen a bunch of other people have been doing--at least from an RPer's perspective. I kinda figured that they weren't going to follow regular dragon naming rules
How often are patches?
alphas you mean?
the next patch will be prepatch
The concept of the weyrns is interesting, too
right now? every week
right?
next is actually 9.2.7
9.2.7 for season 4
then prepatch probably some time in nov or dec
They have to prepatch to get the game caught up to speed on DF, it's been like that for years with every expansion
based on wrath coming out late september and them giving at least 6 weeks between wrath and DF
oh yeah durr i forgot S4 is 9.2.7
but then prepatch as anything else that gets patch will be 9.2.7xxx
so right now, we have a content drought until fall
prepatch will be 10.0.1 or .3
and then expac will be 10.0.5
Watched like 3 minutes of MrGM doing the Dracthyr start stuff. The names were very pretty
do you have some examples?
the first prepatch for the start page should be up late sept. early october
There are some names in the recent wowhead post talking about the dracthyr starting scenario, in addition to the names of the weyrns
i think im gonna go green or bronze flight with dormi/dormu or ra/ius
that's IF they stick to the normal pattern
correct
0% chance - they literally have the raid stuff running then and wrath classic launches the end of sept
you also dont need to respond to people saying "correct"
its rude af
who cares about classic, all that is is retail 2.0
you can react with a 100 emote or something man
I have a dormu name made. The Dracthyr def do not use the flights naming conventions tho.
That lil prom flower bracer is the cutest thing, I'm so excited about it
i mean some people care about classic, just because you don't doesn't diminish that
i hope it isnt locked to the flower holiday
Classic should have been just the base game. now they are adding expansions which makes it retail 2.0
i'm naming my evokers after a band i enjoy
no clue! might be an herbalist profession unlock which would be cool in my book
I'm hoping herbalist.
could be tied to rep/renown
I rarely play long enough to see a holiday event
they have 80 levels of stuff to add for each rep
I'm out of the classic talk. don't need to play retail 2.0
oh TRUE! i forgot the dragonflight areas have a renown type system
yeah each rep, according to the db2s, has 80 levels of renown
tho only 2 of those even have some rewards laid out
Not a bad idea! Now how to turn Les Friction into a dragon name 🤔
Yeah, they don't have the normal dragonflight naming conventions like that. Some names from the starting scenario include names like ||Azurathel, Cinderthresh, Viridia, Sakareth, and Emberthal with each being the scalecommanders of the 5 weyrns; The Obsidian Warders, The Dark Talons, The Healing Wings, The Ebon Scales, and a destroyed weyn respecitvely||
watch it, they could bring darkwing back
hmmm, so more dragon/nature type names like ebonhorn
yeah King gizzard and the lizard wizard made it easier ( doing knggizzard and lizardwizard)
Yeah stuff like that
tbh, thats the only thing i can think of regarding the gnoll war map
thats the only dragon thats even sorta relevant
From what I've heard wrath and ebonhorn play some role in Dracthyr joining the roster. I'm stoked for it
Wrathion and Ebyssian
guys
im digging through DF npcs
look who i found
That's why I used his other name 
I'm not familiar with rafaam
but someone found him via wowhead client scraping
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omfg this better mean something for archeology
there you go
Tbf I don't know what form he will be in or anything. I've interacted with him the most as a moose man
its probably tied to the dragonscale expedition and treasure hunting
interesting tidbit - the infinite dragons also use the new DF models
man, i hope we get one as a mount sometimes during DF but i have big doubt since they will want to push dragonriding as much as they can
Dracthyr also have color palettes to allow for infinite color scheme
Bulullar made one of his using them
btw - i think the tauren involved are grimtotem
those are the only tauren im seeing in NPCs
Prob no fancy glows or what not. But we def can do some infinite flight color schemes
oh, like the pale color palette?
Kurog Grimtotem gains stacks of power with each successful cast of a primal element's ultimate ability. At 66% and 33% health, Kurog summons two elemental incarnations. The longer these incarncations exist, the more dangerous they become, and when defeated Kurog absorbs their power for himself.
I'm more hyped about the storm drake themes
i was thinking one bronze since healer spec seems OP
and the other might be infinite but idk
I'm wanting to see what I can do with that dark blue base with burgundy overlay shown in the pic with the profile shots
have you found any other than kurog?
Im hoping this is just an isolated guy and not them trying to make the grimtotem suddenly evil world-enders
Third head second row
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=188671/tiger-loa#sounds kimbul is back
looking
please don't let blizzard forget about Vol'jin 😦
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=190285/chronormu chromie has a dragon model
They did him so dirty
yeah I found more, magatha is there
he's like the ONLY npc i care about
really desperately hoping they dont butcher her character and make her ally with the primalists
she's such a more interesting villain than that
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=190575/cariel-roame another HS in wow npc
after seeing him in SLs i was super excited to see he's getting something more
weird that theyre using the pre-shadowlands face and smooth hair textures
when she's very explicitly a black paladin character, and was highly praised for being such
another
i think theres probably a league of explorers thing here
either that or theyre finally using that damn HS tavern model
cool looking proto primal drake
Don't quote me on it but I think the big theory buzzing about is that he's somehow gonna be reborn as the loa of kings, or A loa of something
Rezan did give him his power
i think it's something more than that but i'm just hoping Blizz doesn't forget about him even if it takes two expansions i'll be happy to see him again
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=185828/lordaeron-blight this one is weird
yeah Rezan chose not to be saved and empowered him
queen's back
says its in maldraxxus
weird
probably fixing some NPC stuff for the 9.2.5 questline
that's the endboss for the maldraxxus part of the lordaeron quests
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=183555/emmigosa look who else is back
All we know for sure is that he took that nap queen lady offered and just waved at bwonsomdi like "peace" x'D I can really only imagine voljin being so casual with a loa
and theyre grown up
That one got my excited
i wonder if we'll have hats with hair one day
Tho I hope they are gonna explain why the welp left in my pet pocket went and grew without me
yo raszageth looks crazy
oh my god, the storm eater doesn't disappoint. can't wait to wipe on it
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=184797/lorewalker-stonestep new lorewalker
Isn't that the one that's apparently dead? Stonestep
maybe they thought he was dead cause he was lock on dragon isles?
Like they forgot he was killed or something? Idk there's a meme about it
another grimtotem
uh
ok
hes here too
I KNEW IT
oh that grimtotem is one of magatha's guards
good to see he survived, i hope cor did too
so yeah theyre gonna be full on reps
another
probably a part of the black empire flashbacks?
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=184428/neltharion new neltharion, probably not final
to show how they got enslaved
new type of dragon i found
looks super cool
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=185651/akunda-the-cataloger - maybe related to all the new thunder lizards
ok then
^ this is gonna be significant
ignore the model
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=192655/ysera this exists - no model
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=176810/mechancal-dragon misspelled but somehow probably important
god Im so ready for this
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=185751/the-chonker unimportant but great name
troll wars have been such an neglected piece of WoW history
oh that's probs why we see lorewalker stonestep
nah, that is an actual error
because he shows up in orgrimmar
as part of the horde expedition lol
oh PH then
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=176625/storm-elf no working model yet
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=192564/myridian orc dragon npc probably (no working eyes)
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=188901/mister-muskoxeles idk how i missed the name the first time
thats a great pun
Why does this sound like a rockstar variant of Jaina
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=191542/archmage-khadgar dadghar returns
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=193279/a-f-kay another HS character
yeah they all have them i think its for a cutscene using the fancier new tech
Hype
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=194072/aumanil the biggest mustache
he must be their leader
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=184671/first-arcanist-thalyssra this one is strange
At health percentages, Za'qul assaults the players' minds, pulling them deeper into realms of insanity. While players are in these insanity realms, they continually gain stacks of [Hysteria]. The further they dive into these realms, the faster it stacks.Each realm employs its own method of assaulting players' minds. Within the Fear Realm, player...
It would be nice to see if they retroactively update the dragons with their new models in older content
why is her being in the palace a thing and why was it added in 10.0
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=189999/stellagosa returning npc
she was t here for that fight so its probably just them accidentally copying the wrong NPC id
Oh my god she's a gnoll
Jaina (actual Jaina) doesn’t seem to be listed, hmmm
Good, let Kalec rekindle his romance with the Sunwell
could be costumization maybe
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=186121/decatriarch-wratheye this sounds like a name out of the key and peele football sketch
i know it isnt
but i dont think decatriarch is a word
It's pretty boss for some nonsense 
XD
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=186575/grimtotem-spiritwalker another grimtotem
this one is generic
Just looked it up, it's actually a title associated with Qabbalah. Neat
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=186930/nozdormu didnt notice this before but he has floaty sand particles
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=174890/primal-giant untextured but looks kinda like a gronn
Liber Decatriarchia Mystica: This book introduces the Qabbalah of Bayani Gnostic Universalism via the qabbalistic Tree of Reality of 13 Spheres and 36 Subtle-Ray Pathways.
its a murloc version of saurfang
this is 100% related to that weird wyrmrest temple map'
read Nutella at first xd
where did that meeting between varian and garrosh occur?
theres no y
I know, but that's what the title means
she's the matriarch of the gnolls in the area
and in her efforts to defend their land, stumbled into decay magic
and declared herself that title
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=191764/andantenormu tauren bronze dragon - part of the timewalkers faction
look at this awesome belt model
oh its the RaF belt
thats from the RAF set, sadly
different tauren
great name
isnt that hamuuls daughter?
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=178419/flight-master-boralus-seamless-prototype-temp-creature this one is interesting
those time portals could that be these new events?
wonder if theyre working on switching zones without loadscreens
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=190701/rexxar another one coming back
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=193834/mahra-treebender another tauren
also ji firepaw shows up
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=176214/primal-walrus WIP but i think this is a new model without texture
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=186240/senegos - he chose a troll visage
makes some sense since he is one of the oldest blue dragons
i cannot believe they named that boy SCRUMPY 😂
trolls are the OG race
also I really think gnolls are gonna be playable
weird amount of effort and customization
and playable rig
probably 10.3 situation
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=187099/andantenormu dragon form of that bronze dragon tauren
there isnt that much effort
they actually have a very limited amount of variation
theyre just HD and people arent used to it because theyre one of the oldest models in the game
also they cant wear almost any armor
tuskarr can wear more armor than them
significantly more
I love him already
the stuff attached suggests this is the Dragonflight Jeeves
i cant do anymore
Friend shaped
that makes this great to excellent
tfw literally astromancer in druid tier
please give me nightborne druids already blizz
you can buy those in the game rn
they are bought at the barbershop in org and storwind
sick
well, that new article is interesting
whats to stop a bronze drake going back and viewing the disc in the past?
also, its 100% guaranteed now that nozdormu will become murozond this expac
"The timelines are converging. There will be only one Aspect... and Murozond shall be... Infinite!"
huh
endtime actually covers us defeating murozond differently
we closed THAT time loop
but since we defeated deathwing, it never actually happened
and so murozond hasnt died yet
Maybe someone already found out, but theres a boat to the dragon isles now!
It sometimes clips through the boat to boralus a bit if they depart at the same time
is there a loadscreen @opal meteor ?
https://twitter.com/Portergauge/status/1550334326474059777?s=20&t=Bmo3AYZ6eYfz0kxb71wVZw
Now Peach I know you found this but still AHHHH
I personally love Rafaam, and not just that, CARIEL is in here too?
I can only hope we get to see Tamsim on the hoarde side
by far my two favorite Mercenaries
GUff would be nice too
and Xyrella
oh ROkara 100%
Nope, the standard old gryphon one
and reeno is a dragon
so - that might be canon
i think there were others
its very possible we are finally getting the HS tavern
oooooh
Reno being a dragon was confirmed in the Descent of Dragons Solo Adventure
but it originated as a community meme
but also I wanna see Renogos
Yeah it started from ONiK based on the Curator card and a still from the trailer. Lovely bit of fan service that
I basically had this same theory a while back
we closed the loop that Nozdormu did foresee
so the question remains: what actually happened for murozond to break that loop?
we will see
Maybe they need their aspect powers back to defeat galakrond
If he returns
So nozdormu has to break the timeline, go and get an unbroken version from the past
Or something
Nozdormuy did say that even if this loop is closed, this was just the moment of his demise, and he will fall, one day, into madness. So it's a given that we would face him again and witness the event that'll turn him anyway. So my guess is... We will do something that will show him a specific future and will merge every timeline into only one possible, and Nozdormu will shit himself seeing what's happening, thus, will try everything to not make it happen by changing the past since he can't change the future.
it's for the 9.2.5 patch event of Lordaeron. We brought the embodiement of Lordaeron plague into maldraxxus to find how to " remove it "

