wow-help

[short frost]

I think this one mount does it

[Sky Golem]

[forest lily]

Sky Golem - https://www.wowhead.com/item=95416/sky-golem - Live 9.1.0

Sky Golem

Live 9.1.0

[snow elbow]

Nice

Probably like 1000k good

[fluid horizon]

The medium price is 40k on eu

On us it might be even cheaper

[sharp estuary]

I am on US

I will check the price rn

for you

[fluid horizon]

Not that expensive, if you herb for 2 hours and sell everything you are gonna be able to afford it

Maybe even 1 hour is enough

[sharp estuary]

Lmao

[fluid horizon]

With mining it is easily 1

[fluid horizon]

Lol, but there is only 3

[sharp estuary]

ye

[fluid horizon]

But it is only your server

[sharp estuary]

yeah

[fluid horizon]

Are you on a high pop server?

[sharp estuary]

Barthilas atm

not really

just a chill one

[fluid horizon]

On a high pop it is cheaper than that, and some ppl just quit because of the shit that happened, so it isnt the best time to purchase, but everything goes down to ah prices

[grand coral]

Im currently farming for mounts and using disc priest and its super slow, its in all old content that I one shot would it be that much faster on a feral druid to justify leveling a druid from 48?

[fast pulsar]

Already got it thanks

[peak gust]

np sorry

[fluid horizon]

It depends on how old the content is, with lvl 48 you cant really do legion stuff, because it is scaled to 45, but under that everything is doable, but the higher the lvl is, the faster you clear old raids/dungeons

[frosty iron]

Tips for getting Brood of Nozdormu rep fast?

[fast pulsar]

dont have to be sorry.. lol

[fluid horizon]

https://youtu.be/5iDqWqKnbMk
Maybe this helps

[frosty iron]

I'll check it out ty

[fast pulsar]

@peak gust It's still not the same as the old details, mind helping me resolve this issue?

[peak gust]

whats up

[fast pulsar]

I'm trying to get it the same as the old details

but it only shows the damage done when the fight is over

[peak gust]

click the sword on it - you can change what it displays

[fast pulsar]

see what it says

[peak gust]

then click on the page and put current

guess its not showing where my cursor is - but there are buttons at the top of details. symbols of a page, sword, gear sprocket, etc

the page symbol has the option you are looking for

put it to current

@fast pulsar

[fast pulsar]

1 sec

[snow elbow]

Is it possible to add a other actionbar on top of the other bars?

[peak gust]

yes with addons like bartender

you can see it in the last pics i posted - you can put up to 10 bars where ever you want on the screen and customize how many buttons you want on each bar

[fast pulsar]

@peak gust got it, thanks man

[peak gust]

np

[snow elbow]

Thanks

[peak gust]

np

[glacial scaffold]

Um… the Heart of Ardenweald is gone. It’s not here anymore.

The new sigil is there, but in the game, the whole heart just dissapeared.

[cold tinsel]

Do i need to complete daily quests to complete the loremaster for Icecrown?

Or i can just skip them and just do yellow quests?

[spare oar]

just yellow i believe

its just the zone story

[dusty quail]

Is there a place where low level new players can co op

I’m new and I can’t find anyone to jolly co op with

[fluid horizon]

Hi, i own a 210 lego, and bought 2 base pieces, one of them is 225 and the other one is 235, and my question is that is it necessary to buy the 225 to upgrade my legendary 235(so do i have to upgrade my lego to 225 before i could upgrade it to 235?)

[icy yarrow]

is there any way to make my ; targer marker icon bigger on my screen ? Thanks

[azure reef]

you dont need a 225 to upgrade to 235

[pallid fulcrum]

you just pay the difference in ash

[azure reef]

aslong as you have the other reagants like ash and cinders you can make any legendary

[fluid horizon]

Thanks for everyone

I already resold the 225 piece, it already has a better price than when i bought it 10 mins ago lol

[azure reef]

easy flip

[pallid fulcrum]

nice

[fluid horizon]

Sadly i got my 190 piece for 2000 gold and now it is only 800, but i spent 110k on mounts last month, so i dont really care about 1200gold

[rocky spoke]

How can I find transmog?

[azure reef]

you get transmog from every part of content in the game, old expansions and new

you can look at your "sets" tab in collections to view some

[rocky spoke]

Thank you! Where can I go to do transmog? I know there was some shop in the main city but I don’t remember where 😂

[azure reef]

transmog npc for stormwind

[rocky spoke]

Thanks a bunch!

[azure reef]

additionally there is a yak mount you can purchase for 120k gold, the mount has a transmog vendor on them

or you can use someone elses

[rocky spoke]

Oh yes I remember that now! How much does it cost to transmog?

[azure reef]

depends on the items you want to transmog

can cost a few gold to a few hundred gold per piece

[pallid fulcrum]

Rarity ilvl I think?

[azure reef]

pretty sure

[umbral plaza]

hey whats the point of xarionas the dragon

i just found it 2x it baited me i thought its the nice drag

@azure reef i need you

GUMBALL

[pallid fulcrum]

In Deepholm? Drops several Cataclysm jewelcrafting recipes mostly

[umbral plaza]

is it something good

i thought i got the mount 😦

[pallid fulcrum]

Mostly just JC recipes and random gear

[hearty garden]

hii i have a question about the A sound plan achievement

[umbral plaza]

is it shit?

[pallid fulcrum]

One of the five rare elites added to each of the Cata zones

[umbral plaza]

or good

[pallid fulcrum]

I mean it's hella old gear

Might be valuable for transmog on the AH

[hearty garden]

i still need to complete a couple storylines, but none of the npc who have to give the quest, are giving me quests. did i miss something?

[pallid fulcrum]

Are you the right level?

[hearty garden]

im max level

[pallid fulcrum]

Did you check your map for icons and to have trivial quests tracked?

[hearty garden]

yeah, im standing on one big marker but the npc isnt there

[pallid fulcrum]

is there a way to practice raid mechanics without bothering your guildmates or going to lfr? I mean Im having a very bad time at raznal hc and I keep geting turn apart for that boss and on lfr is just too easy

is there any simulator or program where I can practice?

[azure reef]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/practice-sanctum-of-domination-raid-mechanics-with-sanctum-of-pineapples-browser-323053

[pallid fulcrum]

Could pug normals too I guess?

Lfr is a waste of time, complete joke with no mechanics

[azure reef]

pugging normal is ez

[pallid fulcrum]

Atleast there's mechanics, unlike lfr

Only some of the mechanics and the outcome of the raid is out of your control, but still

[mental pendant]

whats the easiest torghast?

[azure reef]

you mean easiest wing? or the level?

[mental pendant]

easiest wing

[tight elbow]

You have to do both wings each week

[young cape]

might be a stupid question but is it really possible to equip two different shard sets and have their effects active? I received that sim a few moments ago and I don't want to believe in this... https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uTsVtFBc5BrKQ6bqVZXGsq

[jaunty oasis]

how do you get trinkets that remove cc ?

[azure reef]

pvp

or the IQD from dos

[jaunty oasis]

sorry, im not sure what a IQD from dos is

[tight elbow]

No. Every class has a max of 5 Dom sockets

[young cape]

I know, the strange thing of the sim is that he uses a cloth belt...

[tight elbow]

Cant

[fathom ingot]

In theory it should work

but in practice, Blizzard disables the second set

so the sim is incorrect since it does not take in consideration one of the two sets is actually not working at all

[tight elbow]

Pretty sure you dont even benefit from wearing a piece of gear your class cant use

[fathom ingot]

You just lose the main stat bonus

which technically could be overcome by unholy set

but again one of two sets is disabled so overall it's a loss to try to wear two sets

[young cape]

you can use different gear like cloth if you wear leather normal... it's just that you lose the buff that you get when you wear the intended armor in all slots

[young cape]

thank you, that's what I hoped for

[tight elbow]

Its dumb to ever wear cloth if you're a DH

This isn't the Pre-Cata days

[young cape]

yes it is, but the problem was, that in theory you could have two sets from the domination shards

[fathom ingot]

Ya dont worry, the double shard set thing has been tested for a while

[tight elbow]

Not really. Because common sense would dictate wearing a piece designed for a a different armor profficiency woould not work

[fathom ingot]

can't cheese it by trying another piece of armor and making up the difference with unholy

[young cape]

thank you, no I can go to sleep in peace

[pallid fulcrum]

Nothing stopping you from wearing armor for another class tho, but it is like 5% mainstat

In bfa my monk was healing with spare gear I got for my priest :(

[rocky spoke]

Do I have to be a certain level to be able to fly?

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah

I think 30? 150% speed is first

[azure reef]

although you will be unable to fly in battle for azeroth zones or shadowlands

without the achievement

[jaunty oasis]

whats the difference between torghast and mortregar

[azure reef]

mortregar is a wing of torghast

one of the like 6-7 areas in torghast

[jaunty oasis]

gotcha 👍

[pallid fulcrum]

I know they're meant to be different and whatnot, but hard to tell the floors apart lol

[azure reef]

just look at the debuff bar

[pallid fulcrum]

Shit you right

[sharp estuary]

Why can't I see this guy?

The research guy

[pallid fulcrum]

did you do the questline to unlock them?

[pallid fulcrum]

the seperate sidequest to unlock them

[sharp estuary]

this one?

[pallid fulcrum]

yeah

that quest is number 4 in the 8-quest series Archivists of Korthia

[sharp estuary]

I see

Thank you

[pallid fulcrum]

ye just continue that, you fuck around for a bit doing weird stuff and they end up settling in at the location you showed

[sharp estuary]

Thank you

[stray crown]

Does farming a mount and not getting it increases the chance for next time?

[short frost]

No

[fluid horizon]

sadly no

[stray crown]

Fook it

[short frost]

I'm not an expert in statistics.
But maybe there is some math that might tell you if you haven't gotten something with a 1% chance after 200 attempts your probability to not get it decreases significantly.

[stray rapids]

anyone knows the shards drop rate?

is it like once per boss per difficulty

[stray crown]

I mean Dota2 is like that

that's why I asked

[polar wasp]

I know sylvanas has 100% drop on any diff.

[polar wasp]

Ive heard of ppl doing lfr for shards so this is most likely the case

[dim crystal]

my upper action bar is not appearing on my new DH character (level 10)

working fine on other characters

[hearty garden]

settings > interface > actionbars > reset them and activate them again

[dim crystal]

worked

thx :)

[hearty garden]

is there a way to get in contact with a GM? i sent multiple tickets but havent had a response yet

[peak gust]

only way i know is use the support option on your esc menu 🤷‍♂️

[hearty garden]

yeah already did that, sent 3/4 tickets or so

[peak gust]

so did they get rid of throwing weapons and various poisons? was looking at my old rogue since i've been away 10 years - now i have a ton of poisons that say empty vials of poisons that predate rogues lol

[peak gust]

probably the only way then - games like this im with millions of players probably get spammed with tons of help tickets

[hearty garden]

alright, thank you for your help ^^

[smoky flare]

mage interrupts works for any skill pretty much?

[peak gust]

ones with cast times - not instant skills

[smoky flare]

ty

[peak gust]

np

[half eagle]

In the Achievements screens "Statistics" tab, the gold earned per day, total earned in auctions, etc. isn't tracked correctly for my character (it's a couple hundredthousand gold off). Can anyone check if they too have this problem?

[peak gust]

yea mines not exactly right either - missing 175k auction transaction

[warm elm]

does Embrace of Gonk (Zandalari troll Racial) stack with Feral Affinity? (level 30 Druid Talent)

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah poisons are now basically just spells in your book, thrown weapons arnt really a thing aside from a few classes having a throw weapon spell to act as a ranged pull

[pallid fulcrum]

Should do I think? Most move speed boosts stack, you can always get an add-on to expand upon character stats to check too

[peak gust]

ok cool thanks

im used to the old fan of knives when they added it

[warm elm]

found a weakaura that tracks it and checked. yeah it stacks

[serene tundra]

Can someone help me with the raid lockout farming guide - where an alt toon holds the lockout and you just keep farming the final boss without all the other stuff, every week?

I don't understand how to get the other toon to take the lockout without having a 2nd sub/account to invite them while im playing

Clearing ICC25 and the likes is not difficult at all, it's just annoying to chew up a full day of playtime to farm all the old raids for their mounts, when I could be farming relics 😛

[fluid horizon]

I heard that it got removed @serene tundra

But i just heard it, maybe someone else knows it better

[serene tundra]

Interesting - I was reading a guide on how to farm old raids - it was for BFA because they were talking about level 120 stuff and ilvl's in the 800s

I wish I currently had ilvl 800 in SL.. be one-shotting for that mythic bow

I've always done the raids since I could solo them, by just clearing all trash andn bosses when the lockout resets, but as said above, it takes a long time to do WOD, WLK and Legion raids fully

[keen pewter]

With Shadowlands blizzard made sure you had a bad time farming ancient stuff

Because apparently it helps maintain players in the game or something, if they have to spend more time to do the same dumb shit

[serene tundra]

I was having a problem with scaling in SoO, but I was lucky with a mythic vault reward and got a 249 gun

Ahh, I don't mind doing the trash, was just looking to optimize

[keen pewter]

They also made some raids flex size when they never were intended to be flex

Firelands is now flex for example, instead of 10 and 25 (though it might had been because of a timewalking bug)

[serene tundra]

I never had an issue in FL

was running the 25 version

[cursive gull]

Hello there, is there anyone can help me with putting wow head news in my discord ? i tried and i failed big time im not sure how to do it xD

[keen pewter]

Might had been because Timewalking then

[serene tundra]

Maybe - so is the lockout farming thing patched or fixed or whatever in SL and 9.1?

i understand it may be more difficult now

[keen pewter]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene tundra]

It's ok, ILU still 🙂

[fervent latch]

I will get wow one of these days and I have some questions

Fist of all do I need to have friends to enjoy the game cuz I don’t

Second of all will always need to find someone to play the game with and if I do is it easy ?(in the game)

[serene tundra]

I talk to people and run mythics with a group, but otherwise I mostly play alone.

I farm and do old raids, world quests, etc. - all alone because people are annoying sometimes lol

[fervent latch]

Well I don’t know what mythics and raids are yet but you are saying it’s enjoyable without someone to play with ?

[peak gust]

not really - helps make it enjoyable - but the game alone with the lore and sheer size and number of quests will have you playing following story and sidelines for year - basically one of the biggest longest games in existence that just keeps getting added to. so if even you do nothing but stick to yourself and enjoy the beauty of the lands - you'll be endlessly entertained

friends just add companionship and co-op'ability

[fervent latch]

Oh ok thanks a lot

Oh there is more ok ok 🙂

[peak gust]

only for dungeons and raids, which are end game - its a certain aspect of the game to get into the more serious stuff. but many casual players can just occupy themselves with tons of things to do. and you are left to go in any direction you choose to go. almost like if i gave you a list of 10k things to do and you could pick anything you wanted to do at any given time

[fervent latch]

That’s awesome

And it’s not like I have no Intentions to play a lot and to reach end game

So it’s great

[peak gust]

yea no you never have to do the most serious stuff

you could endlessly quest, work on your professions, and explore

[fervent latch]

Excellent

[tight elbow]

No, its not.

[fervent latch]

Ok say that it’s not enjoyable without multiplayer is it like easy to find others and play together in game ?

[tight elbow]

Yup. There are thousands of guilds recruiting at any given time.

[fervent latch]

Oook thanks

[peak gust]

personal preference really - im 35 been playing mmorpgs since back in school when original runescape had 1 server.
i've seen plenty of people have fun in mmorpgs as casual all by themselves. while i like to make friends and play with friends and enjoy the multiplayer aspect (and is how i like to enjoy games personally) sometimes you just kinda wanna chill and do your own thing. questing type mmorpgs like this CAN be enjoyed solo, and i have seen it done by many people - just kinda beats the point of being and an mmo

[serene tundra]

Not just that, if you're stuck on a quest, ask in general chat for the zone. 8/10 times you'll get a good answer.

Wowhead.com is a good resource as well, or so I'm told 😉

[white ravine]

will servers come up at a random time

[short frost]

usually they do yeah

[frosty iron]

Is there anything in pve content thats limited? I kinda want to commit to pvp more

I know the keystone mount but i alrdy have the s1 one so i dont really care about this one

[icy yarrow]

maintenance is so long wtf

[short frost]

it had to be extended

[icy yarrow]

any reason why

[short frost]

something broke

[fathom ingot]

There's some major bug fixes coming into this week with the shard sets

or they're delaying so that one dev can finally finish soloing torghast

[short frost]

usually dev gives ops a document to follow during maintenance - but when the servers do something unexpected you gotta fix it on the spot - sometimes it takes a bit longer to do that

[jagged shard]

stop giving reasonable explanations- surely it is to give the Cosby suite a proper send off! 😏

[hearty garden]

hi i have a question about the bfa questline, i recently finished the achievements A sound plan, Drust do it and stormsong and dance, but I still cant start on the main questline even though im friendly rep with all 3 required reputations. what should i do?

[strange marlin]

how do you go to hell's barrier?

[candid lynx]

renown 55 is max this week ?

[azure reef]

finally final tier of mechanikos and korayn

[smoky flare]

Hey folks, I’m an icy mage and my dps during mythic plus is not all that great. I think I’m doing most things right. I’m watching someone on YouTube and they get icy veins like every 20 seconds … how??? My crits 22% and I have icy purpulsion

[fluid horizon]

Check your teammates's ilevel, it makes a big difference

[fathom ingot]

Consult your fellow mages @smoky flare

https://discord.gg/makGfZA

[glacial scaffold]

Just out of curiosity, is there a behind the scenes look at WoW I can take a look at?

[short frost]

a lot of the Blizzcon content is kind of behind the scenes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_UduyRI2lE

[frosty iron]

Does pvp vault gear always have vers?

[fathom ingot]

Yeah @frosty iron

all the pvp gear have verse so it's impossible to not get a verse piece

[tight elbow]

The WoW Diary

[pale island]

hi, can I activate trial mode on an already existing account? Can a trial account play classic/tbc?

[short frost]

yes - but classic/tbc have no trial

you only can trial retail

[pale island]

thx

[wraith sleet]

Does wow really sees if we suggest things or report on bugs at the game itself?

[fluid horizon]

Nobody here is from the company so we dont really know, but they most likely do, because they have been fixing bugs in the last weeks that have been reported

[wraith sleet]

Good!thank u very much 😀

[remote elm]

wowhead video problem here. When you click video and it stopped "the advisement has been deleted". It seems bug or so it is kinda annoying when you have to reclick video because of it.

[fluid horizon]

#wowhead-feedback-support

[remote elm]

Thanks!

[frosty iron]

Awesome ty

Does anyone know when I can open vault?

In EU time

I know i can open it tomorrow but idk when it resets exactly

[leaden steppe]

i see the campaign quest on my map but the person wont give

help please

in korthia

[fluid horizon]

If i know correctly reset is beetween 3am and 4 am
But it can be seen on the char choosing screen

[fluid horizon]

Could you send us a picture?

[leaden steppe]

it loaded nvm

[frosty iron]

Thanks

[pallid fulcrum]

Where can I spend timewarped badges?

[hearty garnet]

can you get the warglaives from timewallking? or just normal, i just got one of them on my DH, but i need both to get the arsenal, correct? and can i run timewalking more than once?

[rose badge]

any mage on to help me get back to oribos? my realm is hellfire

[tight elbow]

You can not

[hearty garnet]

i see

[snow elbow]

Iam 5/7 in story progression in tiragardr sound. How do I know what quests help towards 7/7ing the area?

[pallid fulcrum]

Can't you just kinda hearthstone

[rose badge]

i would but hearthstone isnt set there

[pallid fulcrum]

Where's it set

Odds are you can hearthstone, fly to your main city, teleport there

[hearty garnet]

After I boost a character is it still a 24hour lockout till I can enter raids?

[tight elbow]

Yes

[sleek ingot]

is there any cheaper way to get a 262 legendary base item other than AH? it's like 150k

i'm guessing someone can craft it right but i don't know the mats needed

[azure reef]

someone can craft it but might be hard to find someone who wont charge, and the mats are still pricey + you need 40 korthite crystals

and if you dont have the korthite crystals they are also expensive

[sleek ingot]

i have 41 korthite crystals rn from dailies n stuff

just not whatever else i need

[pallid fulcrum]

The only options aside from crafting it yourself are trade chat and AH

So I guess just accept the pain?

[lone blaze]

is doing the original covenant campaign still necessary in catching up on renown?

[pallid fulcrum]

For catching up renown probably not ? But you need it finished anyway

Mandatory questline that happens to get you to renown 30-something

[long kelp]

Through doing class trials I have found out that I like warlock and demon hunter, and I have one character boost token, which class is easier to level? I'm wondering because i'll use the token on the class that takes longer.

[lone blaze]

demon hunter is easier by far

[spare oar]

you should save your boost until after youve leveled tho

otherwise you will be very confused about how the game works

[long kelp]

ok

I'll level a demon hunter to max or something and then use the boost on something else

[azure reef]

And if you are going to use the boost, use it on a class you are familiar with

For example I boosted a warrior because my friend was one so I knew a fair amount about how they played and worked

[spare oar]

eh

if you like the class trial, its probably fine

you just want to know the base game stuff first

[tight elbow]

Nah. Class trials do not give nearly enough impression of a class to justify a boost.

[long kelp]

I did the trial and read through the abilities, talents, and specializations

[spare oar]

ive used boosts on classes i dont have

thats imo the best use for the boost

sometimes you might not like it

but eventually you have a bunch of near max level toons to choose from

ive boosted a priest, a warrior, my monk (main) just using the expac boosts

my monk is my main since pre-warlords

[azure reef]

Both my boosted characters I left on alliance

Wasted both the boosts

[spare oar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

its a gamble

boosting a class you have at max already is a waste tho

[azure reef]

Unless you have all characters maxed already lol

Just boost more for farming

[rocky spoke]

Where is the storm wind portal room?

[azure reef]

At the mage tower in the mage district

It’s a small thin tower at the centre of the district, there’s a portal at the top which sends you to the portal room

[weary sky]

does anyone have any info on this item ? usually id find interactable objects on wowhead but looking it up NO ONE has mentioned this, its pretty obvious what it does but still weird it has no info at all

[tight elbow]

The mage table?

[weary sky]

yeah but its unique because i cant use it until im 40

[pallid fulcrum]

A mage just kinda makes it

That's their thing

[fluid horizon]

It depends on which type of timewalking is active

[vale sand]

Hey, is there any way to get the shadowlands start quest (a chilling summons) back when you abandoned it? I think I accidentally started it at a low level and abandoned it right away... i'm lvl 49 now and it won't appear in stormwind. is there any way to check whether a quest has been started? (completion is false) any suggestions would be helpful, thanks in advance 😀

[fluid horizon]

If you have already turned the starter quest in, then there should be a portal near the place where you picked up the quest

If you dont, the quest should be where you first picked it up, if not check your quest log if it is there(you might not abandoned it), if nothing works out, put a ticket in@vale sand

But here is what you asked for: https://www.wowhead.com/forums/topic/how-to-check-to-see-if-you-have-completed-a-quest-254125

[vale sand]

thanks for the reply 🙂 i used this method; it returns false... i was looking for a way to find out if I have ever started the quest; it's not in quest log and there's no portal in stormwind

[fluid horizon]

Then i would submit a ticket if the npc doesnt offer the quest, and it isnt in your log, but next time dont abandon important story quests especially if they take you to another world, it might be tricky to pick it up again@vale sand

[vale sand]

yeah, of course...so sorry.. was just curious bout shadowlands

[fluid horizon]

One question, why did you abandon it?

After you hit 48, and you have sl, you have to follow those quests and you are all set

[vale sand]

i hadn't hit lvl 48 yet! i had access to shadowlands through recruit a friend; and i wanted to do the quest line once i had leveled up...

[fluid horizon]

Ye but you need lvl 48 to start the questline

[vale sand]

the friend who recruited me has shadowlands...

I'm not 100% sure, but I think I clicked on shadowlands in hero's herald and the cinematic did start...

it was like a week ago; when i actually hit 48, nothing happened; that's why I'm thinking i did sth wrong back then...

anyway, thanks for your help @fluid horizon and i just submitted a ticket asking them to reset the quest line...let's see what happens, maybe I never really picked it up in the first place, i dunno.....

[ripe star]

Hey does anyone know why my quest log says that i havent completed this quest line? I have the achievement for it, but my log is saying that I did not finish it?

[keen pewter]

Might had bugged

[fair widget]

I changed covenant yesterday and now I am at 9 renown, is there any chance I catch up to 50 today?

[candid lynx]

which stats needed to make tank harder?

[keen pewter]

Stamina, Versatility

[fluid horizon]

maybe 2 days

But it can be done in 1 if you are desperate

[icy yarrow]

can I earn rep from the ascended while doing dungeons ?

[fair widget]

whats the fastest way to get it? after campaign

[muted cape]

I hope this is the right place to ask. If not I’m so sorry! I just started wow a few days ago after not playing since burning crusade. I literally remember absolutely nothing and would like someone to play with who could kinda teach me the ropes and share tips?

[fluid horizon]

dailies in your cov, dungeons, lfr

[fair widget]

ty

[fluid horizon]

Just do everything that gives renown

[serene tundra]

So, I’m stuck in Korthia, kinda. I’m 220 on all my gear, or higher, and I need to get the archivalist rep up to 5th level, and I just hit 4th last night. I can’t upgrade gear until I buy the book for Alloys at 2000 relics.

Am I boned to just farming relics for the next 17 years to get to 5th level and buy the book?

I don’t raid much so I rely on upgrades from K to get my ilvl up

[icy yarrow]

why not doing M+?

[serene tundra]

I am, but usually only one or two a week. I have a busy work schedule 😦

[pallid fulcrum]

I make even that look like a lot

I just hate group content 🤷‍♀️

[serene tundra]

I used to be clinically addicted to this game - had 16 hours a day playtime 7 days a week. Back in Vanilla, I was raiding Naxx before they took it out :p

So I’m cautious to jump into a raiding schedule and doing 10+ mythic a week

Ten as in quantity, not key level lol

[polar wasp]

tbh you can do just 1m+15 per week

but yea if you want more gear,pvp,m+ and raid are your only options

no welfare gear past 220

[serene tundra]

Lol welfare gear.. that’s meeeeee

[clever karma]

was wondering how rare it is to queue arena skirmish and go into a 3v1

[pallid fulcrum]

Can I play while the game is downloading?

[keen pewter]

Yes

[rancid marlin]

about 50%. it either happens or it doesnt

[azure reef]

It’s not 50% lol

It’s not common, but it’s due to either a 2 stack leaving or just dumb matchmaking

[jaunty oasis]

@rancid marlin was queuing as a healer which puts you auto into 3v3

[pallid fulcrum]

How many GB should I download to start playing?

[jaunty oasis]

like minimum

as soon as its able to play

[azure reef]

If it says you can play you can play, although it depends what content is installed first

[jaunty oasis]

i think they install the tutorial section first

[azure reef]

Probably able to atleast make a character and do the tutorial

Ye

[pallid fulcrum]

10 GB?

[azure reef]

That should be fine ye

But if you run into any problems just close the game and wait for it to download a bit more

[pallid fulcrum]

My wifi is so bad 500KB/s that is why I am asking xd

[azure reef]

Got same wifi as me lmao

[keen pewter]

It says when you're installing, the progress bar

[jaunty oasis]

i thought UK had amazing internet

[azure reef]

I live in the countryside and there is no fibre

Not everywhere in a developed country is gonna have good wifi lol

[jaunty oasis]

fair enough

i had just heard it was pretty good

[azure reef]

Well ye if you’re in the city

[rancid marlin]

kinda countriest of you to assume that

[jaunty oasis]

i consider the us developed but rural internet can be pretty bad

[azure reef]

Same here

[rancid marlin]

hurry up with your space wifi elon

[jaunty oasis]

dude is being mega-countriest

[azure reef]

Elon’s too busy getting cucked by the ccp

[jaunty oasis]

looool

hand over the lithium china

[old jolt]

hi is this a channel you can ask questions about in game stuff

[jaunty oasis]

yea

[old jolt]

hi! i was wondering, if im getting into farming with herb/mining would it be smart to do it on a low pop server and then send the resources to my main? or does it not work like that

[tight elbow]

You can't

[fathom ingot]

You can't send them to your main yeah

[old jolt]

cant you send gold to different servers tho? or no

[tight elbow]

No you can't

[jaunty oasis]

Believe it's all in-server

you can trade character-to-character but not across servers

[tight elbow]

Or cross faction

[old jolt]

so what do people normally do? just do stuff on their same server then even if its high pop?

[jaunty oasis]

Why you opposed to farming high-pop ?

[old jolt]

cause wouldnt people be farming as well?

thats what i would assume

[tight elbow]

Yes

[tight elbow]

Yes, but you don't have to fight for nodes in retail

[old jolt]

ah ok ty!

[serene sundial]

What's the fastest way to farm renown now when hcs dont drop them anymore ?
heard torghast L6 is quite fast, do you need to do 100% runs to increase the chance ?

[jagged shard]

https://i.imgur.com/4rvM3QA.png

[rancid marlin]

what are mythic 0 dungeons?

[fathom ingot]

just regular mythic dungeons @rancid marlin

Like when you walk into a dungeon with mythic difficulty on, that's considered mythic (zero)

[rancid marlin]

ohh gotcha, thank you

[peak gust]

oh thats new... whats the deal the skill charges? one of my skills now can be used twice instantly then recharges? think i get the general concept - but just curious for some clarifying info

[jaunty oasis]

can you queue up for mythic dungeons or no

[azure reef]

nope

you have to join or make a group

[jaunty oasis]

gotchaaa

do you know the current expected ilvl for mythic 0?

[azure reef]

like 180

-190

[jaunty oasis]

coooooooool

always coming in clutch arch

[hearty garnet]

its not letting me put my warglaive of azzinoth in void storage, i have the offhand on my DH and the mainhand on my DK, whats the issue here?

i just want one char to have both

[peak gust]

should be in your collections

nope i lied - not in there i know i have it on another toon

[hearty garnet]

i guess ill just keep trying for them to both drop at once

[errant cape]

Is the start to this week’s campaign bugged? Tried re-logging and all..

[fluid horizon]

What seems to be the bug @errant cape ?

[errant cape]

I can’t find the quest giver at all. Says it’s near on map. Bolvar says a line of dialogue and then nothing. Thenios is nowhere to be seen

[fluid horizon]

I havent started this week's campaign, maybe it is bugged, but someone else might give you an answer, wait patiently

[errant cape]

For sure, thanks

[fervent latch]

Uh so guys I am playing wow(not classic wow) and I am a level 11 rn if I want to pass level 20 the classic wow will begin without having to start over right?

?

[keen pewter]

What?

[fathom ingot]

Retail and classic wow have nothing to do with each other

[fervent latch]

I am so confused rn inthe blizzard shop it has WoW and classic WoW and rn I am playing WoW

[fathom ingot]

The blizzard shop will offer both if you have the subscription

[fervent latch]

I am not paying sth rn

[fathom ingot]

wait actually do you have a subscription or no

[fervent latch]

No

[keen pewter]

Then you don't have classic

[fathom ingot]

Okay then it's offering you classic and retail because you need a subscription for classic anyways

and you can't level past 10 without a sub I think?

or 20

[keen pewter]

20

[tight elbow]

20

[fervent latch]

So as I was saying

[fathom ingot]

If you buy the sub for regular/retail wow

[fervent latch]

If I wanna go through level 20

[fathom ingot]

it will just remove the restrictions

[fervent latch]

I have got to buy the classic

[fathom ingot]

you will not have to start over

[tight elbow]

No

[jaunty oasis]

No

[fathom ingot]

no you buy the subscription

[short frost]

you cant buy classic

[fathom ingot]

classic wow unlocks along with being able to go past 20

[jaunty oasis]

Classic is a completely different game from "World of Warcraft"

[fathom ingot]

so buy the subscription and you will get to go past level 20

[rancid marlin]

classic is world of warcraft

[jaunty oasis]

no

[fathom ingot]

and you will get classic WoW

along with it

[short frost]

no - it's a different game

[fervent latch]

Ok ok that’s what I was thinking thanks

[fervent latch]

It said classic wow what are u saying ?

Says *

[short frost]

yes

classic wow

[tight elbow]

WoW and Classic WoW are different games

[short frost]

it's a different game

different installation

[jaunty oasis]

the game on the launcher and in the store "World of Warcraft" is the current version of WoW and its where new stuff is released to
"Classic World of Warcraft" is a different game

[short frost]

it's included for free if you get a sub for world of warcraft

[rancid marlin]

yes exactly, classic wow is world of warcraft

[fathom ingot]

just be quiet honestly

you have no idea what you're talking about

There is WoW and there is classic WoW

[rancid marlin]

says world of warcraft right there?

[fathom ingot]

classic WoW is not WoW

[rancid marlin]

i know they are different but world of warcraft is also classic

[short frost]

yeah that is what I am saying

[fathom ingot]

No it's not

[rancid marlin]

the name is literally in there

[fathom ingot]

Classic WoW is one thing

[fervent latch]

Ehhh so I am now playing WoW and if I wanna get past level 20 I have to get the subscription and with it it includes classic wow as well??

[fathom ingot]

WoW is another

[jaunty oasis]

i guess you do technically have a point, world of warcraft is in the name

[short frost]

also why are you arguing semantics anyway?

[jaunty oasis]

yes exactly

[fathom ingot]

if I wanted to argue semantics, I would win anyways because that's how the launcher states the name of the games

[short frost]

it's just important for new players to understand the differnce

[fathom ingot]

WoW Classic and WoW are two separate entities according to the launcher

[fervent latch]

Ok so what differences are there between them ?

[jaunty oasis]

if you end up paying for a subscription, you will also recieve access to a game called "Classic WoW" which is a game remastered to act like WoW 15 years ago

[fathom ingot]

Classic is like retail WoW in the old days

[short frost]

classic and retail are 2 different games

and I recommend against playing classic for new players

[jaunty oasis]

Classic WoW is a recreation of world of warcraft at launch (2003-2005) before there was expansions and other changes to the game

[short frost]

yeah it's the 16 year old version

but wow has evolved and become a new game

[fervent latch]

So the new game is the WoW (not classic)

?

[jaunty oasis]

yes

[fervent latch]

Ok thanks

So which one of them is ‘endless’

[short frost]

retail

classic will end pretty soon

[fervent latch]

That is the WoW right ?

Yeah ok

[jaunty oasis]

Some people might argue that Classic is "endless" but its a very limited version of the game

[short frost]

I give it to wrath - it won't go into cata

[jaunty oasis]

Yes people call the current version of WoW "retail"

[rancid marlin]

waiting for the classic shadowlands expansion in 10 years

[short frost]

15*

or 13 maybe

[jaunty oasis]

remember shadowlands guys?

[fervent latch]

Visible confusion if you guys are joking rn I am realllyyyy confused

[jaunty oasis]

2035 WoW Players: "The last good expansion was Shadowlands. Game was amazing back then. now its just shit"

[fervent latch]

Is retail actually endless ?

[short frost]

yes

[jaunty oasis]

What do you mean by endless?

[short frost]

well... it has been for the past 16 years

[fervent latch]

It doesn’t end

[short frost]

nothing lasts

[hearty garnet]

ahh

[jaunty oasis]

like the game will always be available for you to hop on or the content is endless

[short frost]

https://tenor.com/view/sylvanas-gif-19336297

[hearty garnet]

thanos logic

classic

[jaunty oasis]

cuz @short frost is saying the servers will be available for a long time

[fervent latch]

Like the content is it endless ?

[jaunty oasis]

Yeah there's a massive amount of content in "retail" wow

more than probably any other game

[short frost]

it's not a sandbox game if you mean that - you can in theory complete all available content - but it's a lot

and there comes more

[jaunty oasis]

you would need to play it for years tho

and by the time you finished the old stuff, new content would come out

[short frost]

There is this one dude who managed to get all achievements in the past years

[jaunty oasis]

jesus

probably been playing since launch tho right?

[short frost]

must have

[azure reef]

there was a shammy in one of asmongolds mog competitions who had every achievment

up to that point

i dont even want to know how many hours he has on all his characters

[short frost]

some achievements like the cutting edge and PvP stuff are pretty hard to come by

[jaunty oasis]

Just looked it up, this guy said it took him 6 years to get all the achievements, or about 900 days (in game time)

this was before Shadowlands tho

[short frost]

yep

this is the one I meant

[tight elbow]

[short frost]

hi baifeng

[tight elbow]

Hoi

[short frost]

https://tenor.com/view/minaoreo-oreo-giant-milk-gif-15755556

[tight elbow]

Jesus

[jaunty oasis]

im interested

[tight elbow]

Diabetus

[short frost]

the bigger the better

[fervent latch]

When did retail come out ?

[tight elbow]

2004

[fervent latch]

That wasn’t classic? Jesus the confusion

[tight elbow]

Classic is the recreation of the game as it launched back in 2004

[fervent latch]

Oh okay

[tight elbow]

Retail is the term given to modern WoW. Retail is the same game from 2004, but has been updated and given expansions over 17 years

[short frost]

classic came out 2018?

[tight elbow]

2019

[hearty sinew]

Um I need help understanding how pets work Im debating between hunter class or warlock class but I can't figure out how the pets work like are the hunter tamable pets exclusive to hunter or can you tame them through the pet battle system I've consulted the wiki but it's not very clear

[short frost]

it's simply a basic thing for hunters

they tame pets

it's exclusive to hunters

[hearty sinew]

So for example the moth of fox pet cannot be obtained otherwise aside from being a hunter

Oh okay

But the wiki says that other classes can tame things?

[short frost]

things?

tame? - no ... some can control undead for a while, others have basic pets

but only hunters venture out to the world and tame pets for a permanent companion

[hearty sinew]

I mean I think it said that there is a taming skill that aside from like warriors or something players can learn and tame that way?

[tight elbow]

You're thinking of battle pets

[short frost]

if you link me that article I'm happy to explain what you read

oh hahaha

😄

the pokemon mini game

[hearty sinew]

Yeah the pet battle system can you get for example a moth or a fox from that?

[maiden eagle]

What a d*ck measuring contest on if Classic WoW and WoW were the same thing 😂😂😂

[short frost]

100%

[tight elbow]

They don't assist you in combat@hearty sinew

[hearty sinew]

To be more clear could you get the hunter tamable pets from the pet battle system?

[tight elbow]

No

[hearty sinew]

Okay then

[tight elbow]

Hunter pets and battle pets are 3000% different

[hearty sinew]

So both the warlock and tamer have exclusive pets

[short frost]

exactly

[rancid marlin]

WoW is such a confusing game

[fervent latch]

Wait I am level 10 and I have a like sth like la a little dog it isn’t helping me in battle ?

[hearty sinew]

Agreed

[short frost]

dont try to understand the game

[hearty sinew]

You need to tell it to

[short frost]

just play it

[rancid marlin]

hard to do when you are confused

[tight elbow]

Warlocks summon their pets. Hunters actually go into the world and tame their own

[rancid marlin]

why they have wow-help lol

[short frost]

yeah dont be confused

just ask

we're here to help

[hearty sinew]

Im just trying to make heads or tails out of which to take the warlock is good and it can Summon minions however there's a limited amount of them

[tight elbow]

If you aren't a hunter or warlock, you don't have a pet that helps you in combat

[thorny trench]

so i just recently hit level 20 and im wondering how i start proficiencys

[tight elbow]

What

[hearty sinew]

While the hunter has a bunch of pets but you need to tame them first if you put in the effort you could have a whole army that's my problem I'm not sure which is more worth it

Do the hunters pets which are tamed are they able to get more abilities outside their single Main attack?

[short frost]

there is no value on that

[tight elbow]

This is my Main, a Hunter

[short frost]

it's just a flavor thing

an RP effect

hunters go out in the woods and tame pets

[hearty sinew]

Nice can you have multiple pets out at once?

[short frost]

warlocks summon demons and enslave them

[hearty sinew]

Or is it only one pet at a time

[jaunty oasis]

the hunter pet can do a lot

[short frost]

death knights control undead ghouls and make them fight for them

[tight elbow]

Each pet family has its own abilities. Some pets have flavor abilities but they are mostly exclusive to BM Hunters

[tight elbow]

2

[hearty sinew]

Can you summon multiple at a time and upgrades them or make them stronger in anyway

[rancid marlin]

you have a favorite pet?

[short frost]

no - in fact they can summon one - sacrifice it and empower themselves this way 😛

[tight elbow]

CLOUD SERPENTS

[hearty sinew]

I mean the wiki said you can teach it like 4 abilities

[rancid marlin]

I wish cloud serpents werent so hard to get

[jaunty oasis]

no i believe all hunter pets are all balanced to be the same level of strenth

[tight elbow]

That was pre Cataclysm

[hearty sinew]

I feel like the wiki is out of date based on what you guys are saying

[hearty sinew]

Pre cataclysm?

[tight elbow]

Yes

[fervent latch]

Like is it actually true that some people have been playing for like 10 years and haven’t finished the game ?

[hearty sinew]

What the heck is that

[tight elbow]

Yes

[short frost]

@hearty sinew make sure any guide you read isn't older than 2019

[fervent latch]

Wow

Get it ?😂

[tight elbow]

The 3rd expansion of wow

[jaunty oasis]

yes

[hearty sinew]

I'm reading like the fandom wiki or wowwiki

[jaunty oasis]

Yeah wow changes a lot expansion to expansion and year to year. So a lot of guides can be out of date, unfortunately

[hearty sinew]

So how does the hunter work since apparently the wikis aren't very accurate

Like I know you have the taming ability and debuff long range skills and the like

[tight elbow]

My favorite gobbo is here

Hi @pallid fulcrum

[pallid fulcrum]

@hearty sinew What do you wanna know specifically

[hearty sinew]

How the combat pet system works for the hunter since the wikis not accurate

[fluid horizon]

Wow and wow classic are 2 different games:World of warcraft is the game that you are playing, and it gets updated regurally, World of warcraft is a novelty game mode that doesnt get updated, you need a sub to be able to play Wow classic, and get above lvl 20 in Wow

[short frost]

You tame a pet - you fight with it - there isn't much to it

[hearty sinew]

But is there like a menu to keep track of the combat pets you have can you only have one out at a time do you have to get rid of one to tame another?

[short frost]

nah

you have access to 5 of them at any time

[hearty sinew]

So you can have 5 out at a time?

[short frost]

and there are stables in game to store other pets and swap the 5 you have with you

[jaunty oasis]

You can only have 1 out at a time (unless you take a special talent to have 2)
You can keep 3-5 in your inventory.

[hearty sinew]

Ooooh okay

[short frost]

you can only have 2 out at a time with a certain talent afaik

[jaunty oasis]

And there are stables to keep the rest if you want those

[short frost]

as a beastmaster hunter

usually you onbly have 1 out

[hearty sinew]

Okay

[pallid fulcrum]

Hunter pets fight alongside the hunter. Different pets fall under different specializations and different pet families have different abilities which give them different uses depending on the type of content you're doing, and beast mastery hunters have even more useful pet abilities or a marksmanship hunter works better with none. You can have up to five pets with you but keep the rest of your tamed pets in a stable when not in use. Beast mastery hunters also get a talent that lets them use two pets at once, but both pets share the ability of the main pet and the second is just cosmetic

[short frost]

demonology warlocks are able to have a whole army of demon minions out afaik

[hearty sinew]

So you keep 4 in inventory and one active there's a stable which keeps as many as you need

[short frost]

I think there is a cap in stables as well

35?

[pallid fulcrum]

Much higher

[short frost]

@tight elbow might know

[pallid fulcrum]

It was increased dramatically with SL

It was 60, now it's 200

[hearty sinew]

Really? How?

My internet's going in and out so I might be slow on response just saying

[pallid fulcrum]

You keep five pets with you, with one active

[hearty sinew]

Okay so they can only do one thing alright

[pallid fulcrum]

That's not what I said

https://www.wow-petopia.com/abilities.php

[hearty sinew]

Yeah I gotcha

[hearty sinew]

You said they only had one ability

[pallid fulcrum]

This is a chart of hunter pet families by specialization and family ability

[pallid fulcrum]

☝️

[hearty sinew]

Like I know they can attack and all that

[pallid fulcrum]

I never said they only had one ability, I said different pet families have different abilities

[hearty sinew]

Oh

Hang on I'm reading the thing

[pallid fulcrum]

Different types of pet belong to one of three difference specs: Ferocity, Tenacity, and Cunning.

Each specialisation grants your pet a few specific abilities. Currently, there is no DPS difference between the different pet specs. The only differences are in utility

[hearty sinew]

Okay so that's how it works

Alright

So now that that's cleared up how does the warlock minions work

Are they basically the same thing just no need for the stable and taming?

[pallid fulcrum]

Eh, yes and no. They function differently, have different abilities between the player character and pet, have different durations, etc. Doge was technically right that demonology warlocks basically summon armies, but only really a handful to a dozen demons by the player using abilities and they only last for a brief duration

[hearty sinew]

Okay I think I get it

[pallid fulcrum]

While normally having one of a few pets out from a very very small list

[hearty sinew]

Man this is a tough decision

[jaunty oasis]

why you only want to choose between the two classes with pets ?

[pallid fulcrum]

You should find a guide for each class and spec that you're curious about and read through each, as well as play around with different characters until you find what playstyle you enjoy most

[hearty sinew]

I like pets I was looking for one where I could have like a miniature army

[pallid fulcrum]

Irrelevant question, they can pick whatever they want that interests them

[jaunty oasis]

how is it irrelevant

[pallid fulcrum]

Because it's their preference

[jaunty oasis]

uh huh

is that not relevant to this conversation?

[hearty sinew]

When I saw the tamer I thought that I'd need to choose over variety over quantity

[jaunty oasis]

we're talking about @hearty sinew preferences and which class he's gonna choose

[pallid fulcrum]

Not particularly, since obviously they want a pet class

[jaunty oasis]

so you can see that its obvious

but its irrelevant that i asked why he wants pets over the other classes

[pallid fulcrum]

Yes it's obvious that's why asking is irrelevant

[hearty sinew]

I personally think it's really cool to have a bunch of monsters mauling my enemies while I can attack from behind

[jaunty oasis]

yeah man i totally agree

i play a beast mastery hunter

i love having a pet

@pallid fulcrum must've had a bad morning or something

[pallid fulcrum]

Any hunter can have pets

[hearty sinew]

Both the warlock and hunter can do both on top of applying debuffs I like debuffs as well

[pallid fulcrum]

True but they each also have completely different playstyles

[hearty sinew]

Yeah true

I'm just trying to figure out which has better minions/pets cuz if hunters better then I'm fine with investing the time in going to tame the pets but if warlock is better then I'll go with that can the warlock upgrade it's minions as well like how hunters pets gain experience

[pallid fulcrum]

Hunter pets and warlock demons don't improve like that in retail. They level alongside your character and gain set abilities at their own rate while leveling

And a wolf that you tamed at level 20 will be just as strong as a wolf you tame at level 60

[hearty sinew]

Okay so I'd your characters like lvl 5 they'll be level 5 too?

[pallid fulcrum]

Yes

[hearty sinew]

Okay so the tamers pets basically become so useful depending on their leveling requirements

What about the warlock minions do they do the same thing?

[pallid fulcrum]

You can gain different abilities and talents that can enhance your pets as hunter or warlock, but those are still just abilities and talents and are only temporary or selected

[rancid marlin]

@hearty sinew I think one thing to think about is the type of bets. I find it cool hunters can go out and tame whatever pet they want(for the most part) warlocks are tied to certain pets

[pallid fulcrum]

Yes

[frosty iron]

What should i do to farm renown?

[hearty sinew]

Man this is a hard decision

[pallid fulcrum]

World bosses, dungeons, raids, pvp, rares, Torghast, etc

Covenant callings

[frosty iron]

well yeah but what is the fastest?

callings dont give renown for me

[pallid fulcrum]

All of them

[frosty iron]

I'm renown 54 rn

[tight elbow]

FYI, hunters don't debuff in Retail

[hearty sinew]

Yeah true still tho a warlock can have more than one active ugh it's so hard to choose

[pallid fulcrum]

Meh, slows and bleeds and poisons and healing debuffs

[rancid marlin]

really is hard lol

[tight elbow]

Dots aren't debuffs, imho

[pallid fulcrum]

From what you're describing, you want a warlock

[jaunty oasis]

also feel like it depends what aesthetic you want

[pallid fulcrum]

Slows and healing debuffs are debuffs tho

[jaunty oasis]

Warlock is a more fantasy driven look IMO. Hunters are more grounded, often having an animal as a "pet"

[tight elbow]

Neither applies in pve

[pallid fulcrum]

Hunters are hella fantasy gtfo

[jaunty oasis]

You mad for some reason ?

[pallid fulcrum]

Situationally

[tight elbow]

Yikes

[jaunty oasis]

how is a hunter fantasy

[azure reef]

how is it not?

[tight elbow]

^^

[pallid fulcrum]

☝️ ☝️ ☝️

Tons of hunters in fantasy, low or high

[jaunty oasis]

Explain how its fantasy

ill wait

[tight elbow]

Hunter is literally as fantasy as it gets, alongside Warriors

[jaunty oasis]

how...

[frosty iron]

I agree tbh hunter is more basic

[rancid marlin]

yeah I dont see the fantasy in hunters

[jaunty oasis]

its literally a dude with a bow and a pet

thats not high fantasy at all

[tight elbow]

LMAO

[hearty sinew]

I Mean true the hunters need to go out and tame them while warlocks start out with things and can call them on command and have more than one active so yeah i think I'll go with warlock the hunters do have variety but it can only do so much when you can only have one active

[tight elbow]

Not really

[jaunty oasis]

warlock pets

[tight elbow]

BM Hunters have 2 pets out permanently

[jaunty oasis]

hunter pets

stay mad

[pallid fulcrum]

So you don't see the fantasy of having a nigh-mystic bond with your mundane to mythical and fantastical beasts and goddamn dinosaurs with accompanying nature magic and summoning aspects of the beast? Never heard of the Beast Master, Legolas, and other hunters from fantasy and scifi?

[tight elbow]

Yikes dude

[jaunty oasis]

not always

[rancid marlin]

looool

[tight elbow]

Yes always

[jaunty oasis]

nope

wrong

[rancid marlin]

no ive seen BM with one pet

[tight elbow]

I'm a fucking bm main XD

[jaunty oasis]

you really dont know much about hunters huh

[tight elbow]

Lmfao

XDDDDDD

[pallid fulcrum]

Bruh

[tight elbow]

My sides

They hurt

[cinder dragon]

hey, I just bought the golden cloud serpent mount but it isn't in my inventory, it gave me a quest which I finished but I dont have the mount. Did I do something wrong?

[hearty sinew]

So I'm confused Can warlocks not do what I said or can they?

[pallid fulcrum]

You post one old model coyote to make your point when there are cloud serpents, undead beasts, dinosaurs, and magical creatures we can pull from the same site you got the coyote from

[jaunty oasis]

less high fantasy than warlock

[tight elbow]

The order of the cloud serpent mount ,August celestial mount ot the shaohao mount

[pallid fulcrum]

You're just overthinking it without enough context. Make one of each and play both

[jaunty oasis]

this is an over exageratted explaination for literally just having an animal as a companion

[pallid fulcrum]

There's a difference between a hunting bloodhound in Tennessee and having a T-Rex follow your commands while fighting demons and ghosts

[jaunty oasis]

tons of BMs with 1 pet btw. its a talent to have 2 pets, not everybody chooses that talent

[jaunty oasis]

100%. But hunters can have normal animals as pets

[tight elbow]

Lmfao

[hearty sinew]

I just wanna make sure I make the right choice

Or can you make multiple avatars?

[pallid fulcrum]

And?? Animal Companion is the numerically superior talent in the row for ST and AoE situations

[short frost]

numerical?

[jaunty oasis]

numerically superior...

[pallid fulcrum]

You can have literally hundreds of characters

[hearty garnet]

is it possible to run black temple normal with multiple people, and have them trade you both warglaives?

[tight elbow]

The right choice is the class you like the most. And yes, you can have multiple characters. Up to 50 actually

[hearty sinew]

Oh

[short frost]

numerical lmao

[pallid fulcrum]

What

[tight elbow]

No

[hearty garnet]

so those dont work like regular soulbound items?

[tight elbow]

I believe in tw they only drop for DHs

[short frost]

imagine playing an RP game and choosing your edgy hunter talents based on some calculator .. smh

[jaunty oasis]

loooooooooool

[hearty garnet]

they dont drop at all in TM

look at the adventure guide @tight elbow

[pallid fulcrum]

Doge stfu this is the help channel. There is also a performance aspect to the game and numbers to come into play, otherwise metas wouldn't exist

[tight elbow]

They do. Only for DHs

That is how DHs get the transmog

It's a DH only achievement

[jaunty oasis]

and then also not recognizing that a warlock using magic and summoning demons from other realms is slightly more "high fantasy" than a character with a bow and a pet (even if the pet can also be high fantasy)

[hearty garnet]

its not lmao

[short frost]

yeah but dont tell me to stfu - I think that could come over as rude fore some people here

[jaunty oasis]

Back off of Doge bruh

[fluid horizon]

Sad frost mage noises

[tight elbow]

It is.

[frosty iron]

frost mage pet bad

[hearty garnet]

warglaives of azzinoth are for any class that can equip

[tight elbow]

No

[hearty garnet]

the arsenal version

is for demon hunters

[tight elbow]

-.-

If you want to fight me on the answer, don't bother asking questions

[jaunty oasis]

Kinda got owned @tight elbow

[tight elbow]

No?

[hearty garnet]

facts dont care about your feelings

[tight elbow]

[jaunty oasis]

Also being a bit rude to people just trying to get help and learn the game. You realize you dont have to answer questions in this channel?

[pallid fulcrum]

??

[hearty garnet]

i think he just likes to fight with people

some kinda kink thing

[jaunty oasis]

agreed

[hearty garnet]

to each their own

[tight elbow]

Then post some. Only DHs can get the warglaives during TWing TBC

[tight elbow]

... you asked a question and I tried to answer it and you fought me on it. Not my fault you didn't want an answer.

[hearty sinew]

Looking at it now the tamers got variety but only a select few of the pets have interesting and majorly helpful abilities most of which need to have mastered taming while the warlock can summon a large majority of pets that each have unique abilities and the warlock also can pull debuffs that do damage over time

[storm grotto]

[pallid fulcrum]

They function entirely differently

[jaunty oasis]

Yeah man it seems like you like the warlock, i would go with that

[hearty sinew]

Then I shall

[hearty garnet]

just got this today, non-timewalking

[hearty sinew]

Do you just create an account for world of warcraft or do you need to buy an account like Minecraft

[tight elbow]

You make an account and buy a sub

[pallid fulcrum]

You're still overthinking it. Leveling is easier now than it ever has been, so making both isn't an issue. Warlock is probably a better idea for you anyway because as a new or inexperienced player, warlocks come with a lot of things that are useful to groups and you also have more tools to cheat death and keep yourself alive@hearty sinew

[jaunty oasis]

You can create an account. I believe its tied to other Blizzard-Activision games like Warzone or Overwatch

[hearty sinew]

Oh yeah I think i remember seeing that in the skill sets

[jaunty oasis]

If you have played those, its the same account. You'll eventually have to purchase a sub to continue playing after lvl 20

[hearty sinew]

OWO I have overwatch maybe I can link the accounts

[hearty sinew]

How long does it typically take to get to lvl 20?

[pallid fulcrum]

Not long

[jaunty oasis]

yeah should be the same account. You just open the blizz.net launcher and search up world of warcraft

[hearty sinew]

Blizz.net?

[jaunty oasis]

uhhh

whatever its called lmao

[pallid fulcrum]

You can keep playing without a sub at level 20, you just won't level anymore

[jaunty oasis]

same launcher as Overwatch

[short frost]

30 to 120 minutes

[hearty sinew]

Seems like one hell of a waste

[short frost]

30 might be a bit on the ambitious side tho

[jaunty oasis]

Well, point is they wont lock you down and stop you from playing the game once you hit 20

you just cant level

until you sub

[pallid fulcrum]

You have no subjective experience to base this judgement off of. You can cover a LOT of content with a level 20 character still

[jaunty oasis]

what? he's saying its a waste to be playing if you're not gonna level

[fluid horizon]

It takes 30 mins to complete exile's reach, which gets you to lvl10

[jaunty oasis]

chill out pleeeease

[pallid fulcrum]

At least enough to decide if you want to keep playing the rest of the game

[hearty sinew]

I meant that it'd be a waste to be gaining XP for doing stuff after that and not progressing

[fluid horizon]

So 75 sounds about right, but 2 hours is surely enough

[pallid fulcrum]

Chill out? Are you okay? I feel like you're reading some kind of tone in my text that isn't there. You calm down

[hearty sinew]

Unless the XP stores for when you do buy a sub

[pallid fulcrum]

It's meant to decide if you actually want to do more and play or not

[jaunty oasis]

You just seem really mad and rude to this new player @hearty sinew just trying to learn 😄

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm not being mad?

[hearty sinew]

I am indeed trying to learn

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm answering directly and bluntly

[jaunty oasis]

Hey man i want you to learn and enjoy the game

[hearty sinew]

Thanks 😊👍

[pallid fulcrum]

I mean what do I know about helping out people, I'm not known for giving advice at all

[hearty sinew]

Is there anything else locked behind a subscription aside from the level cap of your avatar

[azure reef]

its a dh only transmog

[rancid marlin]

enjoy the game! it is pretty addicting lol. especially once you hit a certain point and things start clicking

[frosty iron]

you're more known to me as a dick rather than a guy who helps

[jaunty oasis]

amen to that

[hearty garnet]

im aware of that

[rancid marlin]

lmaoo

[jaunty oasis]

yup. game will get super addicting after a certain point

[azure reef]

gumball is more off a dick than someone who helps? looool

[fluid horizon]

I dont think anyone is being rude in this evening/or whatever you have, so i wouldnt bother trying to create conflict

[hearty sinew]

Yeah I've seen people play it from what I've heard it's kinda easy to pick up

I think it varys on what you play as tho

[pallid fulcrum]

A subscription or active gametime is necessary to have access to social and community features, numerous game subsystems, and access to levels 20-50 as well as Classic and TBC Classic. You'll also need the current Shadowlands expansion for levels 50-60, current expansion content, and access to current endgame content

[tight elbow]

If it's your first account, it does. Stores xp up to lvl 25 or 30, can't remember which, until you sub. If you do sub and let it lapse, you no longer bank xp

[rancid marlin]

thats the nice thing about it. pretty easy to pickup but it is a lot of fun trying to master your character. Enjoy it! Feel free to add me once you get going

[hearty sinew]

Jesus Christ they're really milking this game for all it's worth

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah idk what Bizarro World I woke up on

[pallid fulcrum]

The game has been a subscription service for over 16 years

[tight elbow]

Definitely not.

[jaunty oasis]

same here, add me if you start to level up, maybe i can help

[rancid marlin]

to be fair in the recent years they have been milking this game

[hearty garnet]

once you equip both of them an get the achievement, doesent matter which character, just one that can equip. then you run black temple, and at the end, you get the item, and the achievement, Arsenal warglaives of azzinoth, an its called, "ill hold these for you until you get out"

[fluid horizon]

This is how it has been since launch, you pay a sub, and whenever a new exp comes out, you can choose whether you buy it or not

[hearty sinew]

Yeah but that's like 3 subscriptions do you need to pay like monthly or is it just a one off purchase

[azure reef]

its one sub

and pay for expansions once

[hearty sinew]

Expac?

[pallid fulcrum]

What??? Lmao no

[rancid marlin]

which expansion will last for around 2 years so you get your money worth

[jaunty oasis]

did somebody say expac?

[fluid horizon]

Think about an expansion like a dlc, but for an online game

[pallid fulcrum]

@hearty sinew You pay for a subscription or active gametime to play the game. You purchase the current expansion to play current endgame content

[tight elbow]

It's one subscription. 15$

[hearty sinew]

Oooooh that was Expansion pack

[tight elbow]

Expansions are a 1 time purchase

[jaunty oasis]

yeah some people call them expacs for some odd reason

[rancid marlin]

arch did but he updated it 🙏 xpac always confused me at the start lol

[hearty sinew]

Wired (I sent you a friend request on discord accept and I'll let you know when I start)

[pallid fulcrum]

Expansion Pack. Expac

[rancid marlin]

common mistake. When I first started they make it seem like you need a bunch of subs to do everything

[tight elbow]

Common gamer term since 2004. Very odd 🤔 🙄

[jaunty oasis]

ok boomer

[hearty sinew]

(I sent you discord friend request accept and I'll dm you when i start

[rancid marlin]

not everyone plays games that use weird vocab

[jaunty oasis]

expansion is simple and easy to type lulz

[pallid fulcrum]

Before that even

Expac is literally five letters

[hearty sinew]

I mean people just call it dlc not even expansion packs now

[jaunty oasis]

yeah way back in 1980 when yall started playing games

[jaunty oasis]

dont you dare call it dlc or these guys will get super mad

[tight elbow]

🤡

[pallid fulcrum]

True but DLC and expansion mean two different things in different games

[tight elbow]

That console community lingo

[jaunty oasis]

see? they mad

[azure reef]

it aint downloadable content if its already apart of the game, like an expansion is

[jaunty oasis]

its downloadable isnt it

-_-

[pallid fulcrum]

But we're using lingo seen in WoW and MMOs, since this is a discord server for a fan site dedicated to the MMO WoW. So...

[tight elbow]

Been playing games since D2 and always heard them be called expac or xpac

[pallid fulcrum]

It's like learning phrases in Greek if you go to Greece

[rancid marlin]

yeah some people in this server just expect everyone to know wow terms from 2004. not everyone has been playing PC games for a while. I just recently got into wow/pc gaming

[hearty sinew]

Oops my bad (I sent discord friend request accept it and I'll let you know when I start)