i will probably try out the TTS feature sometime
#wow-help
neon cedar
prime elbow
I know that. I meant his friend.
bold oyster
Yeah all you can really do is push through or do other stuff
tight elbow
I used to use Storyline
agile lagoon
Quest text addons smh
neon cedar
🤨
tight elbow
pallid fulcrum
she knows
agile lagoon
Hi unee
neon cedar
nah unee, Alexios needed help in WoW
agile lagoon
rekt
neon cedar
type unspecified
coral rampart
sex confirmed
that dosnt sound like alexios needs help in wow but rather IRL
agile lagoon
that dosnt sound like alexios needs help in wow but rather IRL
Well he's debating getting a life and giving up wow
Or playing wow and giving up life
fathom ingot
or get a life playing wow?
coral rampart
or get a life playing wow?
wake up miserable - go to work - come home - eat - play wow - eat - play wow - shower - bed - cry - sleep -wake up miserable repeat repeat .......
sounds like a life worth living
agile lagoon
Throw in school and you got my life
foggy coyote
I’m afraid I simply can’t understand the “yeah this part sucks but you gotta just do it and get to ANOTHER part that sucks and eventually a part that you might actually enjoy”. Like no I’m paying for this game I want to have fun playing it. So I’m going to take option 2 and just play something else, like Classic. 
pallid fulcrum
Bye, Felicia
foggy coyote
Actually right now I’m gonna get off my phone and go back to processing Medicaid claims because I’m on the clock lol
cobalt flint
@foggy coyote It doesn't sound like a problem that we can do anything about. I think you might want to write on the official forums about it.
fathom ingot
I’m afraid I simply can’t understand the “yeah this part sucks but you gotta jus...
Campaign is quite short. WoW can't please everyone but at least the campaign can be powered through within a reasonable amount of time
there's always something for people to complain about
some people hate bastion, others revendreth, others maldraxxus, others ardenweald, others m+, others pvp, others choreghast, the list can go on and on
pallid fulcrum
But if you want to play the game, at some point you're going to have to play the game.
If you don't like playing the game, then maybe this isn't the game you should be playing.
fathom ingot
Bastion is about 2-3 hours, maybe 4 but that's stretching it out
agile lagoon
If you don't like playing the game, then maybe this isn't the game you should be...
Fax
pallid fulcrum
People want to hear what they want to hear and nothing else sometimes, so me being right means little in this case
agile lagoon
Sadly that's the case most of the time
Gum what server do you play on?
I'm looking for another one that's good for horde that's in my time zone
pallid fulcrum
Not NT but thanks for being quick to judge. You're a bigot.
@agile lagoon lol I'm on WrA
Best server
It's Horde-leaning, but there's enough of a faction balance that you can play both sides with impunity if you don't count all of the blood elves who don't do anything
agile lagoon
I'll look into it, recently started playing on my own account (from my dads) so I'm interested in changing it up and all my friends play on a west coast server
pallid fulcrum
Plus a high-full pop without being full enough to need a queue. Even on SL launch I was only in a queue for maybe a minute
pallid fulcrum
I'll look into it, recently started playing on my own account (from my dads) so ...
I know so many people that have moved long-time characters to WrA, even ones who don't RP. It's just an overall dope community
agile lagoon
Nice, how is the lfg for m+ and arena?
fathom ingot
LFG for those arent realm limited are they?
pallid fulcrum
Not bad, not bad. Plenty of groups pushing +15 keys and higher, a few mythic raid groups on both factions
pallid fulcrum
LFG for those arent realm limited are they?
Yeah, but he's probably asking about local guilds
agile lagoon
LFG for those arent realm limited are they?
I think it prioritizes your realm
agile lagoon
Battlegroup?
pallid fulcrum
It used to be the groups of realms that arenas and BGs showed up on, and while that limit has been removed it still keeps realms on the same battlegroup on a priority
agile lagoon
Ah, I thought they did that farewell altogether, didn't know bgs still have priorities
Awesome
pallid fulcrum
It's a soft priority
Either way, WrA is fuckin dope. RPer or not, it's a great server
agile lagoon
Alright, I'm almost home but when I get there I'll check more about it
pallid fulcrum
It's hard to find good high-full pop servers that don't fall super heavy to either faction
It's also pretty active no matter what hour you're on, which is a huge bonus too
fathom ingot
I have a couple friends in WrA, they like it too
agile lagoon
Yea, I first played dalaran but didn't like the community so went to stormrage with my dad (back when we were ally) in the early BFA days. Then we swapped horde and went area 52 towards mid BFA and my dad went back to ally because he doesn't like org so I broke off and made my own account partially because he changes to much and also because I wanted to make my own name for myself.
pallid fulcrum
I feel you. One of the things I like about WrA is I can hop on my Horde or Ally character and know there will still be people around
Also, it being an RP server helps filter out... certain types of players even if you don't RP
agile lagoon
Yea lol
pallid fulcrum
I mean they have their own sets of weird too but I'd rather deal with a little cringey weirdness now and then than full-blown toxic assholes who would rather be playing League
agile lagoon
Yea I think wow has a specific type of toxic people lol
pallid fulcrum
Oh, trust me, it's not just a WoW problem
fathom ingot
WoW has a bunch of toxic people of all sorts
pallid fulcrum
It's a gaming problem
fathom ingot
^
pallid fulcrum
There's a reason why I say gamers are the worst thing about gaming
fathom ingot
I play Hay Day back in the day and I see people as toxic on that game as with WoW
pallid fulcrum
It's not a meme
fathom ingot
the worst thing of a toxic culture are those who created it
coral rampart
scamming trash talking breaking up guilds ... best days of wow
pallid fulcrum
scamming trash talking breaking up guilds ... best days of wow
And this is why I have my notes for you as trash
coral rampart
And this is why I have my notes for you as trash
agile lagoon
Lmao
narrow laurel
is there any way to get 300 nightfallen rep? im 300 rep short from exalted, and ive done seemingly all quests or world quests
bold oyster
Is it worth selling random threads on the auction?
coral rampart
is there any way to get 300 nightfallen rep? im 300 rep short from exalted, and ...
wait for daily reset then do some more WQs
if you done all there aint much to do but wait
narrow laurel
damn
coral rampart
[Battleplate of the Last Mogu]
forest lilyBOT
Battleplate of the Last Mogu - https://www.wowhead.com/item=95331/battleplate-of-the-last-mogu - Live 9.0.5
coral rampart
works fine
worthy folio
[Colossal Dragonplate Battlegear (Heroic Recolor)]
forest lilyBOT
Colossal Dragonplate Battlegear (Heroic Recolor) - https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1198/colossal-dragonplate-battlegear-heroic-recolor - Live 9.0.5
worthy folio
works fine with this one
coral rampart
🤔
worthy folio
i suppose problem is because amor chest and full set have same name
oblique tree
guys, I got level 50 and now I only have access to a dungeon. however it requires an item level of 20 levels above mine. how can I improve my equipment?
foggy whale
buy greens from the auction house or pick up some higher level gear from quests
oblique tree
i ended up zuldazar, lv 50 and my items are also 50.
foggy whale
have you started shadowlands
foggy whale
Shadowlands gives you like ilvl 80 pieces to start with right out of the gate
oblique tree
the game is taking me to silithus now
cobalt flint
and I need +78 to go to the level 50 dungeon.
What is the category called? At level 50 you can to Battle for Azeroth Normal and Heroic. Heroic require good items, Normal do not.
cobalt flint
If you have Shadowlands expansion, don't worry about them, just go to Shadowlands.
oblique tree
i have, but i started at zuldazar, now the gamte taking me to silithys
fathom ingot
there should be a quest in your capital city to start shadowlands i believe
foggy whale
if you want the better gear, shadowlands is really the only place to get it
cobalt flint
The game is guiding you through the BFA endgame now. You can pick up the necklace (Heart of Azeroth) if you want, but don't bother doing anything else there. Just return to capital and start the Shadowlands questline.
oblique tree
The game is guiding you through the BFA endgame now. You can pick up the necklac...
exactly... so I put everything aside and go to shadow? then i go back to bfa?
later
cobalt flint
You can if you want.
oblique tree
ok guys, thanks so much
i have another question
I have two dungeon missions that I no longer have access to. do i have to go manually?
cobalt flint
Every dungeon can be accessed through an entrance in the open world (except Darkmaul Citadel, that's tutorial-exclusive). The Dungeon Finder is just a tool to make it more convenient.
oblique tree
but the finder give me a group, right?
i have to make one manually now
and go to entrance if i wanna finish the mission
tight?
right?
cobalt flint
When you are level 60, you won't even need a group to do those old dungeons. You'll be overpowered enough to do it on your own.
oblique tree
thank you so much
supple crag
do i need to level vanilla engineering to 300 to be able to do shadowlands engineering?
bold oyster
Nope
pallid fulcrum
do i need to level vanilla engineering to 300 to be able to do shadowlands engin...
Professions are divided up by expansion. Don't need another to level one
prime elbow
If you want the bragging rights, you can do them in order.... but its in no way required 
cinder palm
I've been playing rogue as human, is it a good character?
foggy whale
good is subjective, play what you like the feel of
tulip wharf
hey I chose threads of fate and now im to low ilvl on my alt to kill anything efficiently and cant queue dungeons whats the best route to take
fathom ingot
BFA level to 50, get some gear and continue on with SL @tulip wharf
tulip wharf
where do i get the gear from
fathom ingot
just do some heroic dungeons
or buy some green boes from the auction house
theyre not that expensive generally
tulip wharf
what ilvl for the greens
prime elbow
80ish should be fine
fathom ingot
^
on my blood dk, i just bought a full set of ilvl 80 gear
did some SL quests that gave 80+ gear and i had ilvl 80 pretty fast
oblique ibex
Is the Sha of Anger still a once a week kill for a chance at the mount?
waxen rapids
tight elbow
Is the Sha of Anger still a once a week kill for a chance at the mount?
Yes. Once Per Character, Per Week
hollow scroll
Would anyone be able to help with this issue I'm running into?
I'm working on unlocking the Zandalari Allied Race and I just finished Fly Out to Meet Them, which I think is the second to last quest. Either I didn't get the achievement if that was the last one, or I can't find the last quest. Searched everywhere in Nazmir, the Seal, Nathanos' ship, and everywhere else Talanji can be. Any help will be appreciated 👍
pallid fulcrum
I remember i ran into a similar issue, iirc i ported to org and logged, then went back out to reset the zones so she'd load. May also be affected by warmode, bfa had some of those.
fervent basin
stupid question, I'm new. Is there something special I have to do to unlock dungeons? I have a quest telling me to run Violet Hold and can't queue for it. I'm 25 and had the quests since 13 or 14
fervent basin
idk, I'm new and haven't played before, just been doing whatever quests I get. I don't really know if theres somewhere specific I should be
keen pewter
Well, you got yourself outside the railroad blizzard provides
Which is basically, follow the first quest you get
tho it's kinda their fault for allowing ppl to go to old places even if they're firsttimers
jolly field
hi im a new player and im a bit confused as to what to pay for. if i buy the subscription does that pay for the expansions ?
fervent basin
well it's partially my fault too I think. I first made a druid, and at 18 a friend told me not to start as a druid because it's the hardest class, so I made a DH and it doesnt start in the same area as literally every other class from what I gather lol
keen pewter
ye
keen pewter
hi im a new player and im a bit confused as to what to pay for. if i buy the sub...
sub includes all the expansions except the most current one
pallid fulcrum
stupid question, I'm new. Is there something special I have to do to unlock dung...
Theres a gnome, named chromie, in orgrimar or stormwind that you talk to, to do violet hold youll have to be in the timeline for it, more confusingly theres a lich king version and a legion version, so youd have to find out which it wants. Then once youre in the timeline for it you should be able to que for it. If not, you can likely just walk in through the entrance(both versions are in their respective dalaran) but will need some help to take down the enemies inside.
keen pewter
anyways you don't need to do all quests
high cloak
well it's partially my fault too I think. I first made a druid, and at 18 a frie...
Also druid isn't the hardest class in the game, especially if we talk boomkin or bear xd
tbf "hard" is also rather subjective, if you like druid stick with it, DH tho is really a "bang head on keyboard" easy class, still enjoyable tho
tight elbow
Also druid isn't the hardest class in the game, especially if we talk boomkin or...
Hurr durr easy class. DH and DK are the Noob traps
high cloak
basically, but you can admit Havoc doesn't need much braincells to work
eyebeam = profit xd
jokes aside, mastery in any class is something not to scoff at and all have their intricacies^^
Also @tight elbow your panda butt still as hot as ever? ;p
tight elbow
:>
high cloak
l take that as a yes, good to see you are still around :3c
tight elbow
^~^
ornate void
can healing potions be crafted
pallid fulcrum
Yes, with alchemy using herbs.
pallid fulcrum
anyone wanna teach a noobie
restive haven
Hello, so this is the place for complete beginners?
keen pewter
mhm
restive haven
Quick question> I'm level 20 and i just left Dazar'alor because i couldn't get further in a quest. I was supposed to kill a T-rex but i got the best of me. What other map do you recommend me to level up?
keen pewter
You can skip that one quest
restive haven
How do i know which one is the main story quest? Or is there main story?
keen pewter
Kiiinda
cobalt flint
Quick question> I'm level 20 and i just left Dazar'alor because i couldn't get f...
Are you playing on a free account?
restive haven
No, i subscribed
keen pewter
well I don't have any char on bfa range so that's unfortunate
cobalt flint
Ah. Then you probably need to do some sidequests until you hit level 25. Go back to the pyramid. There you will find people who send you to various places in Zuldazar.
restive haven
Oh no, that map drives me nuts
cobalt flint
Once you manage to hit level 25, you can go back to the map by Baine and Princess Talanji and choose Nazmir as your next zone.
restive haven
Alright then, back to Dazar'alor it is..
restive haven
thanks for the help btw
untold edge
Hello, si after watching alot of streams about wow and never playing it i decided it is time to change that and i got wow!, the issue is i'm having a hard time to pick my race + class, im playing as horde (friends on horde) and i would like to go for Rogue does the race matter alot?
im 100% new to the gamer
keen pewter
Hello, si after watching alot of streams about wow and never playing it i decide...
It does not
shy island
How to farm gold. I mean I have started playing in Shadowlands and it seems that lot of people already made tons of money. Ppl sitting on like 500k gold, while I am stucking at 10k :(. What can I do to improve my gold earnings? I mean these callings take ages, I dont think people accualty grind them to farm gold. Any suggestions tips, feel free to dm me.
pine dome
is there a way to add additional mod keys besides ctrl alt shift ?
i want to try setting up my racing pedals :D
pallid fulcrum
Honestly i dont know but if it works let me know ahhahah
prime elbow
is there a way to add additional mod keys besides ctrl alt shift ?
no, those are the only modifiers that exists
it supports next to all keys tho, so youre not limited to only numerals and letters.
can use numlock, insert, home, end keys as additional keybinds, if you want
pallid fulcrum
salve! dove si trovano i set di armatura completi? ad esempio se volessi trovare Tenuta Feroce di Xuen?? sono 50 livelli che ottengo sempre i stessi pezzi di armatura. Grazie
Hi! where are the complete armor sets located? are 50 levels that I always get the same pieces of armor. Thank you
fathom ingot
Every set has different ways of obtaining @pallid fulcrum
some you can buy with special currency, others you just have to collect by doing old raids and dungeons
pallid fulcrum
tanks!
sudden mountain
Hi, i have a question but a few months ago me and my sister went to do the glory of the Argus raider. We was doing well on all of the achievements until we got to this one achievement ( Don’t sweat the Technique ) we struggled to figure it out. Does anyone know how to do it? Or if you do know how to do it then could you help us?
jolly field
sub includes all the expansions except the most current one
do you suggest i buy the newest expansion as well or just start with the sub
polar wasp
Start with sub first
jolly field
ok thx
azure reef
Hi, i have a question but a few months ago me and my sister went to do the glory...
Ah ye the aggramar achieve, it took me and my mates a fair amount of time to figure it out, it’s a pain with very few players
If you’re going in as like 2 people I can imagine it being a very difficult achievement to get, same with the [stardust crusaders] achievement, from what I remember it requires you to be very quick and precise along with basically perfect kiting of the ad and aggramar
And not having anyone die to his slam
pallid fulcrum
can anyone help me find a good server where alot of people play in wow 4.3.3
What
azure reef
Private servers?
azure reef
pallid fulcrum
This the same dude that tried to pretend he/she pretended to be 12
azure reef
Yikes
tight elbow
can anyone help me find a good server where alot of people play in wow 4.3.3
Talk of private servers is not allowed here
azure reef
Even then imagine of all expansions they’d want to do cata private 
tight elbow
tight elbow
Can i have one?
🍪
pallid fulcrum
Ty booo
agile lagoon
Wait that's the person that was talking about there game being busted lol
pallid fulcrum
Yup
agile lagoon
Its annoying how many people don't read the rules
pale iris
Where is the group for horde guild eu???
pale iris
Okay
pallid fulcrum
Lets make a deal @agile lagoon you take the cookie i take @tight elbow deal?
agile lagoon
I'll let you talk with baifeng about that
vocal badge
whats the best aoe farm spot for a level 34?
hallow cloud
can you realm switch your charecter ?
azure reef
can you realm switch your charecter ?
Yes but it costs
pallid fulcrum
can you realm switch your charecter ?
For money yes
azure reef
whats the best aoe farm spot for a level 34?
That completely depends on chromie timeline, class and aoe farming shouldn’t be a priority at that level anyway
azure reef
If ur doing it for xp you’re wasting your time
azure reef
Yep but questing is better
Since dungeons usually take a while compared to the xp you get
agile lagoon
That completely depends on chromie timeline, class and aoe farming shouldn’t be ...
Unless he's playing classic
azure reef
Should mention it if they are in classic, which I’m pretty sure they aren’t
agile lagoon
Then its the best way to lvl
Most people who ask questions about retail or classic don't lol
violet nest
Hey there. I see on Wowhead that there is a way to see only Classic or TBC content. Is there also a way to do that but for expansions that aren't classic yet ?
spare oar
no
because the reason those buttons exist is because the actual items were different in those expacs
you can search various databases by which expac they were added in though
violet nest
Yeah that I know, but the numbers that show up are still post squish, I was just curious about what the old numbers were like
Thanks for the answer tho !
pallid fulcrum
Yeah that I know, but the numbers that show up are still post squish, I was just...
Why would you need to know the old numbers unless you're playing on a private server
violet nest
I do theorycrafting, I was just curious what the scope of numbers were
pallid fulcrum
It's better to do so using relevant live data
empty vale
im in story mode how do i get to online pvp
pallid fulcrum
Enable war mode
empty vale
ok
pallid fulcrum
Or queue for arenas and battlegrounds
empty vale
where
agile lagoon
I
pallid fulcrum
There should have been a tutorial window for how to enable war mode once you were high enough level to turn it on
And arenas and battlegrounds can be joined using the Group Finder
pallid fulcrum
Elaborate
empty vale
ok thanks
pallid fulcrum
I'm not omnipotent, I can't see what you're doing in game unless you post a screenshot
But you are oh wise one
agile lagoon
I'm not omnipotent, I can't see what you're doing in game unless you post a scre...
Just read his mind smh
empty vale
I just finished the starter island and eliminated the boss
pallid fulcrum
Just keep paying attention to where the game is taking you
Read everything, don't ignore tutorials, and pay attention
empty vale
ok
pallid fulcrum
Reading some guides can help too
This is the Wowhead discord server. Wowhead is an excellent resource you should learn to use
cobalt flint
I just finished the starter island and eliminated the boss
I hope you are level 10 already.
empty vale
level 19
pallid fulcrum
what
pallid fulcrum
No I mean you shouldn't be that high level if you're just now leaving Exile's Reach
cobalt flint
Whoa. I was worried you would be only level 9 and accidentally get stuck later. How did you get to level 19 on the starter island?
agile lagoon
I just finished the starter island and eliminated the boss
Just? Or a few quests ago
pallid fulcrum
Yeah that's what I'm saying lol
agile lagoon
this lighthouse map is trash
Battle for gilneas lol
pallid fulcrum
You should go back to questing and paying attention to the tutorial. You'll learn how everything works if you're just patient, pay attention, and educate yourself
agile lagoon
Its a rougher one for sure on new players
pallid fulcrum
I mean players that new shouldn't be diving right into BGs
azure reef
I did that when I was new and it was a big mistake
pallid fulcrum
You need to learn the game first
There are essentials that you need to cover still
No big deal
empty vale
yeah the combos
agile lagoon
Run around and sap people
pallid fulcrum
The game holds your hand and teaches you how to play, you just have to be willing to learn
azure reef
A lot goes into pvp so it takes a fair amount of learning
Learning all specs, what they do, strengths, counters, etc etc
pallid fulcrum
Yeah. You don't just dive in like you would on a game like, say, League of Legends
/cough
empty vale
so i just should do engage and learn to do combos
pallid fulcrum
You need to learn how to play the game
agile lagoon
For the time being must chill out and try not to die
pallid fulcrum
This is an MMORPG. It's... a little more complicated than "learning combos"
You don't even have all of your abilities, or even gear, yet
empty vale
aight
agile lagoon
After the game do some quests
empty vale
yea i just hit 10 level
agile lagoon
...
pallid fulcrum
You need to learn how to play the game before you can learn how to pvp
agile lagoon
Wait for a bit before you do pvp
empty vale
allright so i just do quests and learn
i have understood like 1000 hours in this game isnt that much
narrow laurel
hey is there a way to wear different artifacts even though you are not eligible spec for it? i know there is an addon, and i use it rn but it does not work for some reason
coral rampart
no
narrow laurel
it used to work
prime elbow
if you mean for transmog, you can use your class artifact weapon if the weapon you are using current is legible to be transmogged into it.
narrow laurel
eh, let me word it differently.
there is an addon that lets you have different tmog for artifact, for example I can wear holy artifact when im disc
but recently its not working, so i was wondering if there is another addon for this
prime elbow
for example, if you have a 1h weapon and shield as a resto shaman, you can use the 1h and shield combo from both enhancement and elemental
pallid fulcrum
eh, let me word it differently.
there is an addon that lets you have different t...
You don't need an addon. Unlocked artifact appearances show up within their weapon type pages in the collections window now
prime elbow
and no, addons cannot change what you can and cannot wear
narrow laurel
im pretty sure yall dont understand me
prime elbow
Im pretty sure you dont explain it in the correct way then.
narrow laurel
i used to wear a two hand weapon when my character had one hand weapon with changing artifact appearance
pallid fulcrum
im pretty sure yall dont understand me
As a marksman hunter, I can equip the beast master hunter rifle appearance
If I just go to the rifle appearance page
prime elbow
Yes, that is the normal legion appearance transmogging. thats not the same as the regular one. it has some special rules.
pallid fulcrum
Oh you're just trying to mog over a completely different type entirely
lol RIP have fun GL
narrow laurel
yeah, and i used to be able to
but not sure what happened to it, if its conflicting with other addon or no
prime elbow
you can only do that with what your current class and spec have unlocked
you where never able to do that normally
narrow laurel
i will just take as you guys dont know this addon lol
prime elbow
name it then
narrow laurel
MogAllArtifacts i believe
prime elbow
thats only for you and not everyone else.
narrow laurel
i used to be able to have shadow priest artifact appearance when i had staff
and it was working a month ago maybe
not sure what happened rn
prime elbow
that would be hacking
empty vale
Can you sail those islands whenever you want
prime elbow
@narrow laurel https://www.reddit.com/r/Transmogrification/comments/mh6w48/transmog_rule_change_bug/
prime elbow
eg i think they just removed the api for it and hence removed the addon
since that was not the intention
narrow laurel
they call it a bug, not sure if they removed it
pallid fulcrum
We have to know where you are to be able to tell you how to get there
Part of the tutorial also involves getting you a hearthstone, which takes you back to any inn you've marked as your home
azure reef
If you did the island tutorial, during the intro to your city you’re given a quest to set the city inn as your hearthstone so try that
pallid fulcrum
I have doubts he stayed where he's supposed to be in the first place
agile lagoon
Wait what?
tight iron
HEY BRO
agile lagoon
Are you on the island or stormwind
tight iron
What is the difference between WOW and Classic WOW?
agile lagoon
Wow is currently in shadow lands so wow classic is how the game was 16 years ago
pallid fulcrum
What is the difference between WOW and Classic WOW?
Classic is a novelty game mode that replicates the game as it was before any expansions 16 years ago
goddamn autocorrect
agile lagoon
Lol
pallid fulcrum
hi all so today's my first time on wow in about a year and and a bit so im sort of struggling with every thing meaning talents armour and stuff can anyone help me
agile lagoon
Yea, whatcha need?
pallid fulcrum
hi all so today's my first time on wow in about a year and and a bit so im sort ...
https://www.wowhead.com/guide=3367/world-of-warcraft-for-new-players
https://www.wowhead.com/guides/new-players
so im a level 34 hunter marksmanship and last time i play was when my brother played to so he helped me with my talents but ever since shadow lands came out he stopped playing so what i need to know is what talents i need for my hunter
pallid fulcrum
so im a level 34 hunter marksmanship and last time i play was when my brother pl...
https://www.wowhead.com/marksmanship-hunter-guide
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/marksmanship-hunter-pve-dps-guide
empty vale
holy shit this map is big
pallid fulcrum
"this map"
Dude, we're not watching your screen
We have no idea what you're talking about unless you tell or show us
empty vale
i meant the azeroth
azure reef
After 16+ years of development the world and zones are unsurprisingly big
pallid fulcrum
There's a lot of game in this game
empty vale
yeah this is so good i have played for 1 day and im addicted
pallid fulcrum
And even every zone in every continent on Azeroth
pallid fulcrum
Campaigns, achievements, holidays, weekly events, collections, pet battles, mount collecting...
azure reef
Way too much to go over xD
empty vale
when i got back from that island he left north of island so i quess i need to run to stormwind
the boat
pallid fulcrum
I think you may need to make a new character at some point, just to play through the tutorial again and pay some closer attention and sticking to the path the game is putting you on
While also reading up on those new player guides I posted earlier
empty vale
maybe
pallid fulcrum
Mm, I'd say definitely
azure reef
Ye you seem a lil lost tbh
empty vale
i have worked hard to get here but idk i could do that
pallid fulcrum
Trust me, where you're at now isn't far
And if you're as lost as you are, it'd be better to have a better understanding of what you should be doing
empty vale
yah imma do it
pallid fulcrum
You have to have a good foundation to build a house. A good educational foundation is also important to getting the most out of a game as big as WoW
empty vale
this character has mail and cannot be deleted
pallid fulcrum
You don't need to delete your character to make a new one
empty vale
should i check what is the best class for me
pallid fulcrum
Sure
empty vale
warlock could be good
but maybe when im good and i want to pvp i can make new character
azure reef
If you want to pvp basically all classes have a decent spec for it
So I doubt you’d have to make a character just for pvp
Tho you can if you want ofc
empty vale
ok ty
empty vale
does this cost 13€ in month or can i just buy the game?
coral rampart
its a monthly fee
empty vale
so i pay 50€ for this game and i pay fee?
coral rampart
15€ a month to play
and if you want lastest expansion you gotta cash in abit extra
empty vale
ok thank you
pallid fulcrum
Brother please look at the rules
Before you talk about something thats a bannable offense from this discord
pallid fulcrum
No worries just tryna help u not be banned
still silo
Someone from quora said they are allowed and not against tos sry
pallid fulcrum
Well quora is usually wrong
still silo
I will probably wait another 4-5 years until I have a job then lol
still silo
Game looks a lot better than BDO
Yeah I won't forget u dw
I'll ping you once i get to buy this game and join this server once again
Bye ^^
prime elbow
"looks better than BDO" i thought i'd never hear that phrase. ever.
plush crest
can someone explain to me how it works with getting the game? like when i install it do i get everything? ive heard that i need to buy something but im confused.
cinder palm
are death knights just a normal wow character but they start at lvl 10?
clear geyser
@plush crest Battle.net allows you to download WoW or WoW classic. Without a subscription, you can play until level 20 with a few restrictions. With a subscription, you can play everything except the latest expansion. The latest expansion you buy outright, and that unlocks it for you
plush crest
i can just buy all that from battlenet right?
clear geyser
Yep, BN manages everything with the game. Your BN account lets you into WoW
plush crest
im assuming while im installing it from there rn it gives me just wow? not wow classic bc it doesnt say it
cobalt flint
are death knights just a normal wow character but they start at lvl 10?
They start at lv 8 in their own dedicated starting zone. Unless they are an allied race or pandaren, then they start at level 10.
cinder palm
but eventually they go into the main world
any negatives or does it just start at 8 for no reason
cobalt flint
Yes.
clear geyser
im assuming while im installing it from there rn it gives me just wow? not wow c...
Yep, it's WoW by default. You have to click the little dropdown if you want classic
hasty spear
they started out as a hero class you had to unlock via reaching a higher lvl with another class first. thats why they start higher
cobalt flint
They always started at a higher level. Blizzard decided that they will start at level 8 after the level squish.
plush crest
and classic is what i want am i right? lol @clear geyser
it says base edition 50 bucks
clear geyser
I have no idea, that'd be up to you. I feel like if you don't have friends who are already playing classic, it'd be better to start with retail
plush crest
whats the difference?
clear geyser
What is it now, 10 years or so?
cobalt flint
they started out as a hero class you had to unlock via reaching a higher lvl wit...
At least until WoD, where you could just start as DK without having any higher level character.
clear geyser
It's gotta be more than that really
Classic is the original game from 2005 or whenever it came out. Tons of people were playing on private servers so Blizzard re-launched it officially
The regular game has all the expansions, so more zones, and gameplay has been updated, balanced, etc
plush crest
can i send pics in here?
cobalt flint
it says base edition 50 bucks
You are probably looking at the Shadowlands expansion pack, which is probably not what you want to start with.
plush crest
yeah im gettng that now actually
so i just install it normally in the store nothing else?
cobalt flint
can i send pics in here?
If it's related to a question, then you can.
plush crest
whats with that lvl20 only? or something?
cobalt flint
so i just install it normally in the store nothing else?
Start with the free starter account.
plush crest
okay.
clear geyser
I'd kind of say start with the free one yeah
cobalt flint
After you reach level 20 on the free account, the game will tell you what exactly you need to buy.
clear geyser
Yes, I'm too new to the game to help with that. Probably Vengir be of more use
All I could say is Priest and then run away
plush crest
now with this its just gonna be hard to find someone who is decent and worth sitting down and walking me thru shit and stuff
ive played path of exile so im familar with stuff.
well its confusing completely thats my point
clear geyser
now with this its just gonna be hard to find someone who is decent and worth sit...
Reading the guides people are sharing helps a lot for the background. But there is a newcomer chat in game, and for more specific things, people are very helpful there
wicked pebble
im stuck at a quest
can i get some help?
im here
doing a quest
the Nursing The Wounds
its stuck right here
i need to get the next step to stop the fires
but instead he keeps me in this screen and nothing helps
wicked pebble
yeah
fathom ingot
[nursing the wounds]
forest lilyBOT
Nursing the Wounds - https://www.wowhead.com/quest=39318/nursing-the-wounds - Live 9.0.5
wicked pebble
then i can stop fires but the wont stop
fathom ingot
just do 8 of them
fathom ingot
so you've already used your extra action spell on windmaster julan?
and you've waited to see what happens?
wicked pebble
yeah
but nothing works
and the spell also does nothing
nothing
just standing there trying to do what they told me to do but it doesnt work
i did
maybe i can add someone then i share my screen
then u can watch
yeah
a green target
fathom ingot
you gotta place that target on the man
wicked pebble
but after clicking nothing happends
can is share my screen
can someone come to me in my dm
spare oar
try /reload
wicked pebble
then i will screenshare
spare oar
apparently sometimes it doesnt update
also do you have any UI addons?
if you have any addons at all, try disabling all of them
wicked pebble
i dont have them
im gonna try it now
i restarted the game
for the 5time
im gonna try it biw
now
it doesnt
where can i submit a ticket
only submit a bug
ans that also means that i can make my blacksmithing mount
because i need a question after this for making demonbars
undone roost
Hey, im a newer player. I dont have any expansions, but i recently bought membership and i went to chromie and im questing in outlands while q'ing for dungeons. What do i do when i reach level 50? Grind for transmog gear? Im very new, Frost mage. Any tips would help.
ionic fulcrum
if you dont buy the latest expansion its all about collecting old stuff, completing achies hunting mounts levelling up new characters that kind of stuff
loud surge
Your best bet is likely to just purchase Shadowlands at that point I imagine. 🙂
undone roost
Should i get BFA? Is that even possible?
ionic fulcrum
you should get shadowlands if you can 😛
thats where everything is "happening" and is the current endgame/max level
loud surge
SL will include previous expansions too my dude.
undone roost
I know like little to nothing about the lore. I figured if i went to chromie and went through the first expansion id understand more. Nobody is accepting me to guilds.
Like i have NO idea whags going on 😭😭 just giant fel robots everywhere
loud surge
Ah, the chromie stuff re; lore is awkward. The lore changes a lot unless you do them all in order. Earlier expansions placed less focus on the storytelling as you were an individual in a world, whereas later expansions tend to lean more towards the storytelling about you as a hero
undone roost
Ah. I doubt theres any podcasts i can listen to while at work? Im hooked.
ionic fulcrum
yeah nobbel is wonderful lore youtuber if you like to listen and watch
loud surge
There is! Check out Nobbel 🙂
undone roost
Awesome. Thanks all.
Ill look at buying SL. Will i not be lost? Even at level 36? Or should i get to 50 first
pallid fulcrum
should i quest to level 60 or run mad dungeons
undone roost
Where do i start the actual campaign lol?
Do i gotta follow kul tiras?
Ya i chose to go to chromie instead. But i can go to kul tiras.
So is the only reason for playing old expansions transmog gear?
Ah. Thank you, everyone i talk to just ignores me or calls me a noob lol
cold pond
yo first time player just finished the tutorial island and id like some help. anybody down to chat?
plush crest
Anyone willing to walk me thru the best things for a healer?
class wise and progression?
analog sphinx
hey can anyone help me why is Trualyon on the throne instead of Anduin? I'm trying to complete a quest "An End to the Killing" to finish the Read for War Achievement but Turalyon decided to steal the throne seat and Anduin decided to vanish, please help
wise sail
Hello i am near to level 50 and i still dont have main storyline of BFA. Can i exp in BFA maps after level 50?
dapper lion
Is there a way i can inspect items on how they look before i buy them from traders
dapper lion
lol thnx
compact lotus
Hey guys, quck question about legendary slots. I've crafted a couple already at 235, but for those I could afford highest stat weight so no problems. I'm gearing an alt and am making a 235 legendary for it, but can't afford the 100k for a legs base piece. However the alternative slot is cape at only 7k. I know it's because of high base stats vs low, but just how many stats am I missing out on? I don't know how to sim very well so just a ballpark percentage would be great. thanks!
polar wasp
Usually guides suggest a slot rather than the other because the raid/m+ has better stats in that slot
It wont be a noticeable loss tbh
compact lotus
ok, its for an ilevel 210ish character so just wanted to make sure
pallid fulcrum
Is there any way to get a mount image in wowhead without wowhead background?
I want to use it for my youtube channel
opaque comet
Im confused new WOW expansion max lvl is 60? O.O
pallid fulcrum
it was squished to lvl 50
opaque comet
oh I see
pallid fulcrum
you have to lvl up from 50 to 60 again
opaque comet
is that like way easier then it used to be? (comparing to 110-120 for example)
as its 50-60 lol
pallid fulcrum
yeah you can max out much easier
and I think quests give more exp? idk
I have played in BFA for while and played shadowlands after
and its much ezier to lvl up
opaque comet
oh awesome!
wondering how much the game has changed due to the lvl cap decrease..
content is still the same right?
getting to max lvl, farming up dungeons and raids when possible?
pallid fulcrum
yeah I guess
I only played WoW for about a month
so I'm noob and idk if content changed
opaque comet
heheh cool
pallid fulcrum
but I'm pretty sure that you max up your level, farm dungeon/raid, get gud loots, level up your item lvl
but I dun do dungeon
bc I'm too noob and also light user
when I go to dungeon and make some mistakes with routes etc ppl just enrage at me
and just leave dungeon etc
polar wasp
when I go to dungeon and make some mistakes with routes etc ppl just enrage at m...
thats why you dont play with pugs
pugs are the worst
pallid fulcrum
pug?
polar wasp
random people basically
pallid fulcrum
yeah
they expect to me to know everything about that dungeon
even when I say in da chat that i'm new to this dungeon
rip
polar wasp
they expect to me to know everything about that dungeon
it's like twitter, you dont question the hivemind
pallid fulcrum
yeah
polar wasp
or their singular braincell will get very upset
pallid fulcrum
lol
hasty spear
Never experienced that as a DPS. What are you playing as? When i went on to level my first Tank Alt however i already thought that people might expect me to know how to run the dungeon since the tank is the "leader" most of the time. they were fine with that tho when i said at the beginning that im new to tanking.
polar wasp
yeah,you get a mixed bag,fortunately kuchen here got the good half
hasty spear
Maybe its region dependant 
i mostly get queued up with other germans and we're pretty chill most of the time
opaque comet
which one has more active userbase shadowlands or classic?
keen pewter
Shadowlands
opaque comet
Well hardest part of every expansion begins - choosing a class lol
What are the easiest dps classes atm you'd advice?
Never played warrior as it always was at the bottom of dps tier lists... how is it doing these days?
tight elbow
Never played warrior as it always was at the bottom of dps tier lists... how is ...
All of the classes except DH and DK
opaque comet
as in DH and DK are bottom dps tier list?
Wondering between warrior and hunter, never played both.
cobalt flint
as in DH and DK are bottom dps tier list?
- There are different tier lists depending on what you want to play.
- Choosing a class based on their tier position is not a good idea. Classes shift positions over time. Instead try picking something that you like and master it.
opaque comet
1. There are different tier lists depending on what you want to play.
2. Choosin...
- referring to raids tier list.
- It is for me tbh, a class that is currently at the bottom of the dps tier list in raids, means that's what I'll actually be doing, even if it will scale up eventually I won't enjoy it now.
Therfore I might as well go for a class thats mid/top tier and if needed respec in the future.
cobalt flint
pallid fulcrum
can i unlock zandalari trolls without a lvl 60?
i havent played shadowlands or bfa
i mean i played bfa
but
dont have a 60 now
cobalt flint
Level 50 is enough, but it takes some time to do.
pallid fulcrum
ah
so with a boosted char in bfa
can i do it?
w somedungeon gear from bfa
i dont even know how to unlock it
kek
i want to get into shadowlands and i want to play zandalari troll :p
cobalt flint
The gear should not be too much of an obstacle. You need to do most of the war campaign until the tides of vengeance achievement (look up the war campaign guide for that). Be sure to obtain the Heart of Azeroth at level 50 as well. Then the Zandalari Forever achievement, but some comment on Wowhead for that achievement will probably explain the process.
pallid fulcrum
ok thx
agile lagoon
as in DH and DK are bottom dps tier list?
Don't play dh or dk as your first char . They are hero classes so they skip some levels and that's not good for a beginner because they miss out on the tutorials for the basics
fleet otter
1. referring to raids tier list.
2. It is for me tbh, a class that is currently ...
I would take into consideration the 'skill level' required to play some classes/specs are very different'
Like BM hunter might be low, but it's a super EZ class/spec to play
opaque comet
Yeah thats totaly something I consider as well.
I like starting easy tbh, to get myself used to the game again..
debating between bm/mm hunter or fury warrior
what do you think?
fleet otter
In my raid group i'm almost always top 1-3 dps even tho my spec is 'low tier'
agile lagoon
Like BM hunter might be low, but it's a super EZ class/spec to play
@pallid fulcrum
agile lagoon
Like BM hunter might be low, but it's a super EZ class/spec to play
@tight elbow
fleet otter
did I say something wrong i'm confused why you're pinging people to my opinon?
agile lagoon
Because bm hunter is not as ez as people think
pallid fulcrum
Hes summoning the guardians.
fleet otter
It's easy for me and the only ranged class that can do full rotation on the move 🤷🏼♂️
agile lagoon
Hes summoning the guardians.
And they are better at explaining it than I am cus I haven't played hunter in a few months kek
fleet otter
I find it wayyy easier than MM
fleet otter
Keep up one buff and do my rotation idk why it's so hard lol
IDK i do worse as MM
Guess I'm just dumb thanks for making me feel that way this morning appreciate it
agile lagoon
Feel how you want to, I don't control that
fleet otter
I mean you're laughing at my statements and contradicting my opinon. You're basically calling me dumb in different words
<@&299347348847329281>
agile lagoon
I didn't laugh at all, and I didn't call you dumb, take it however you want but that's up to you
fleet otter
OK
agile lagoon
Yea I say that whenever I find something I disagree with to not make people as offended
fleet otter
Maybe find a different approach, laughing at someones statement is usually going to be taken offensively
agile lagoon
Like BM hunter might be low, but it's a super EZ class/spec to play
And people take offense to people calling there spec ez
fleet otter
OK
agile lagoon
Anyways I gotta do stuff, take offense to whatever you want but don't get mad at others when you do
pallid fulcrum
You both have different arguments and thats totally okay. There wasnt any sort of offensive opinion and there shouldnt be pinging of mods when unnecessary. There were a lot more heated arguments in this channel that were finally resolved peacefully
fleet otter
No mad about anyone saying MM is ez, clearly upset at the guy laughing at me like i'm a joke becuase I think a spec is easier than another
pallid fulcrum
You're imagining things
fleet otter
yes this is very fake and imagined
pallid fulcrum
Don't take things seriously, this is a game and we're all wasting money on it as it is
pallid fulcrum
How is lmao an insult?
fathom ingot
Lmao is a really common response to opinions people disagree with?
pallid fulcrum
Correct me if I'm wrong, but lmao stands for laugh my ass off
Not some derogatory term for dumbass
fathom ingot
Sheesh every day and there's an argument about who's insulting who
pallid fulcrum
People will get offended if their primary motive is to get offended. If you are engaged in the conversation you are always at risk at offending and being offended. But thats still not good enough of a reason to ping a mod while they doing shit if its not important
It was an argument of specs of hunters
Some think its easier some think its harder
Thats just how people play.
There was no reason to involve insulting anyone in the argument
It's subjective opinion. I personally never touched BM, I think it's lame. MM all the way
But getting offended because someone laughed at your online opinion? That's just beyond me
This is Twitter levels of pathetic. Just stop
polar wasp
This is Twitter levels of pathetic. Just stop
You know its really bad if its twitter level of pathetic
prime elbow
at least its better than reddit levels
polar wasp
Debatable
still silo
may i ask something
so theres a free trial where i can play until lv 20
what if i grind in lv 20 and buy myself subscription
is this allowed?
hasty spear
what do you mean?
prime elbow
if you can do it, its allowed. even encouraged
dusky swallow
you mean grind enough gold for a sub? 😛
hasty spear
buying gametime with gold? you wont be able to get that much gold as a beginner
agile lagoon
Yea just don't burn yourself out on wow to early just grinding
opaque comet
What would you guys say regarding tank as a beginner? (knows the game in general but not remembering the actual mechanics)
hasty spear
even normal players that have been playing casually for years dont buy tokens regularly
polar wasp
Trial accounts are locked at 10 gold i think
prime elbow
oh, you mean buying tokens? yeah, you are physically unable to do that as a trial account
polar wasp
What would you guys say regarding tank as a beginner? (knows the game in general...
Beware of toxic dps players
agile lagoon
What would you guys say regarding tank as a beginner? (knows the game in general...
Any class that looks fun
prime elbow
Trial accounts are locked at 10 gold i think
nah, they raised the cap in sl, but its still not more than.... 1k gold i think?
agile lagoon
What would you guys say regarding tank as a beginner? (knows the game in general...
Also keep an eye on healer mana
pallid fulcrum
What would you guys say regarding tank as a beginner? (knows the game in general...
Listen to your cooldowns and not the dps that tell you to pull more
opaque comet
Is that even viable tho?
I only played dps/helear thus far, and always thought I gotta get my self familiar with all the mechanics before playing a tank (never got to that point lol)
opaque comet
as a tank as well?
pallid fulcrum
Yup
opaque comet
oh
polar wasp
Is that even viable tho?
I only played dps/helear thus far, and always thought I...
Dude,you have no idea how many clueless tanks there are
pallid fulcrum
There is a big weakaura for shadowlands dungeons
opaque comet
just thinking about rolling into a group with a clueless tank... I dont want to be that guy lol
pallid fulcrum
Which also makes it even easier
Looks around in soloing level 35 mobs as a level 20
polar wasp
just thinking about rolling into a group with a clueless tank... I dont want to ...
You gotta start somrwhere 👀
agile lagoon
just thinking about rolling into a group with a clueless tank... I dont want to ...
Gotta learn somewhere
pallid fulcrum
Slowly but surely you will understand which packs you can tank together and which not
prime elbow
Many people queue as tank, cus they usually have the extra rewards in dungeon/raids, but not even half of them knows even what to do. either that or being privileged kids that expects everyone to do exactly what they say.
even if its wrong
opaque comet
True, just wondering if I should just roll a dps to learn the mechanics, and go with a tank later on.
or I'll be ok trusting some addon and slowly learning the game without making people I play with want to quit lol
polar wasp
Knowing what you can tank and what you need a cooldown for,and using those cooldowns effectively, can make a gigantic difference on most tank specs
pallid fulcrum
True, just wondering if I should just roll a dps to learn the mechanics, and go ...
Rarely that happens xD the only thing is if the healer cant keep you up
prime elbow
Also, if the healer/dps pulls extra for you, just let them die. Specially if youre not comfortable to tank many groups at once.
polar wasp
True, just wondering if I should just roll a dps to learn the mechanics, and go ...
You dont learn anything as a dps outside of raids tbh
You just tunnel vision dps cooldowns
If you die most ppl say its tank or healers fault
cobalt flint
Trial accounts are locked at 10 gold i think
The limit was raised to 1000 in 9.0
agile lagoon
The limit was raised to 1000 in 9.0
But tokens cost 153k so still no
pallid fulcrum
Well
opaque comet
You dont learn anything as a dps outside of raids tbh
True...
opaque comet
Is there an harder/easier tanks? or most of them are basically the same in regards to skills
pallid fulcrum
Is there an harder/easier tanks? or most of them are basically the same in regar...
Hardest is prot warr/blood dk
prime elbow
they are all slightly different, but mainly just gameplay wise.
cobalt flint
153 characters no? 😂
The limit is 50 characters
agile lagoon
U just blend em togethee
Combine characters? This isn't a mobile game lol
pallid fulcrum
Due to their kiting. Usually arent able to survive as long while dk has purgatory as a safety spot but also unreliable
Dks have a harder time holding aggro
Warriors will be better later on but require good rotation of ignore pain and shield block
pallid fulcrum
Combine characters? This isn't a mobile game lol
One day xD
dusky swallow
Is there an harder/easier tanks? or most of them are basically the same in regar...
It always changes, but as of right now I'd say DK and Warrior is harder than the others
pallid fulcrum
The limit is 50 characters
I know vengi ❤️
Warriors will end up to be the best spec with secondary stat
But thats in the future
prime elbow
153k on NA, i assume? cus its 229k on EU
cobalt flint
You should have seen pre-Legion DK's. I sometimes felt like I was playing a fricking piano.
pallid fulcrum
Hahahaha
prime elbow
i remember when it used to be 400k
patent lantern
hey, anyone coulf help me in mp real quick ?
agile lagoon
hey, anyone coulf help me in mp real quick ?
Watcha need? Also love the icon
pallid fulcrum
hey does anybody know what this blue glow thingy is we have in game? i cant send picture here but will post in screenshots if needed, its like a light blue we tried not being in party and reloading but no idea. We also dont have any other buffs on us other then timewalking and warrior buff
could we see a screenshot?
ill post in screenshot
Really not sure
spiral ruin
hello, i want to unlock void elf but i've never played on a alliance character before, i have the argus storyline (the achievement requirement for void elf) completed on a horde character tho, is that fine? or do i have to have the achievement completed on an alliance character to unlock void elf? thx
agile lagoon
hello, i want to unlock void elf but i've never played on a alliance character b...
I'm pretty sure you gotta do it ally as well
agile lagoon
where is exit?
Like how to get out of storm wind?
spiral ruin
I'm pretty sure you gotta do it ally as well
ah ok, thanks
empty vale
i got out but is there only 1 exit?
agile lagoon
Out of sw?
empty vale
yup
agile lagoon
Yea there is only 1way for walking
opaque comet
How can I decide between tanks 😱
tight elbow
hello, i want to unlock void elf but i've never played on a alliance character b...
As long as you have the achievement, you can use a lvl 50 alliance toon to unlock the race
agile lagoon
How can I decide between tanks 😱
Take time to research and look into lore to see what peaks your interest
spiral ruin
As long as you have the achievement, you can use a lvl 50 alliance toon to unloc...
alright thank you
opaque comet
Take time to research and look into lore to see what peaks your interest
research gameplay you mean?
tight elbow
Both
opaque comet
lore as in story?
opaque comet
I dont care about that tbh, but thanks.
Guess I'll keep looking into gameplays of tanks.
As I never tanked before I'd really prefer having easier time tanking, there isn't a specific one youd advice?
pallid fulcrum
I dont care about that tbh, but thanks.
Guess I'll keep looking into gameplays o...
you mean a certain streamer or a certain class?
opaque comet
class
pallid fulcrum
oh just caught up
what do you wanna know specifically
and ill let you know everything
agile lagoon
Uh oh
pallid fulcrum
Ive mastered every tank under myself so i feel im capable of talking on it on a +20 measure
opaque comet
Never tanked before, looking for an easy tank to learn the tank role while learning dungeon mechanics at the same time lol
pallid fulcrum
u mind if i finish this game of siege first?
agile lagoon
Ive mastered every tank under myself so i feel im capable of talking on it on a ...
What's the highest you've done on dk?
opaque comet
u mind if i finish this game of siege first?
sure thing, thanks!
agile lagoon
u mind if i finish this game of siege first?
Great game
pallid fulcrum
just playing with buddies
pallid fulcrum
What's the highest you've done on dk?
19
agile lagoon
Eh close enough
foggy whale
Dk kinda cheeks in keys compared to raid
agile lagoon
Bdk
opaque comet
hows warrior tank? hard?
foggy whale
All tanks are good in raid... maybe not so much brewmaster
agile lagoon
hows warrior tank? hard?
Healer dependent
foggy whale
Prot warrior is fun but tricky
pallid fulcrum
wdym brewmaster is really strong in raid?
pallid fulcrum
they were a must on slg
foggy whale
Read my message again
agile lagoon
Most of warrior stuff is DMG mitigation
pallid fulcrum
i mean yeah compared to others he is top 3
foggy whale
Not really
I’d much rather have prot paladin and guardian. Or any other pair of tanks
Especially when WW is actually decent
Dh is fine to learn on it’s super simple
agile lagoon
Its a hero class so no
foggy whale
It takes 5 buttons to play it at a high level
agile lagoon
And tanking as one is a lot more complex than havoc
foggy whale
Firey brand > fracture > soul cleave > fracture > soul cleave > fel dev if low > fracture > soul cleave. Throw in demon spikes for mitigation
Noob trap yep
agile lagoon
^
foggy whale
The only thing that is not in there is sigils and those are situational
Less buttons = you can focus on learning more
Instead of hitting every button available on bdk
Maybe not but I wouldn’t be recommending prot warrior to new players
fathom ingot
Less buttons but still a very complex class
pallid fulcrum
Instead of hitting every button available on bdk
this wouldnt survive you like 10 mins
foggy whale
No shit
fathom ingot
there are tons of of shitty vdhs that hide behind "few buttons = ggs"
pallid fulcrum
we 2/1 @opaque comet
fathom ingot
holy paladin is difficult to play as well despite us primarily revolving four buttons
or six i guess
foggy whale
There is a lot more that goes into warrior before you even start a dungeon or raid
agile lagoon
Maybe not but I wouldn’t be recommending prot warrior to new players
I would because that way they are learning the difficulties of every other class in the game, let alone the fact that dh is still a hero class with a complex play style
foggy whale
You have to know what you can block and reflect
When you can play guardian and disregard mechanics
Not really
agile lagoon
Disregarding mechanics is gonna get your healers to hate you and you dead in raids kek
foggy whale
Have you ever seen what a good bear can do
neon cedar
have you ever seen what a good x can do
coral rampart
x gonna give it you
agile lagoon
Lol
nocturne edge
anyone argentinian?
pallid fulcrum
2/2!
foggy whale
Lol
opaque comet
Appreciate it! lol
Kind a hard seeing and understanding tank mechanics from looking into gameplays... idk why
I'll try 🙂
foggy whale
Yep definitely haven’t played every tank class but disregard everything I say
agile lagoon
Appreciate it! lol
Kind a hard seeing and understanding tank mechanics from look...
Mainly look at how they deal with different scenarios/mechanucs
agile lagoon
Yep definitely haven’t played every tank class but disregard everything I say
You may have played every one but not enough to give good advice for beginners
pallid fulcrum
Alright lets see
foggy whale
So ksm on 3 tanks isn’t enough? Gotcha I’ll get all of them there
agile lagoon
You may have played every one but not enough to give good advice for beginners
Or sry better way to phrase that is your not giving good advice for beginners to chose a class
agile lagoon
You may have played every one but not enough to give good advice for beginners
Hot take
foggy whale
Don’t get why you are trying to make dh seem like it is on a different level because it is a hero class, someone could start on it and be just fine, it is pretty easy to understand
Bro what about the kit is hard to understand
Name one thing
It is straightforward
fathom ingot
I think DH is easy to learn but hard to actually play well
a lot of mistakes done by not maximizing the kit aren't necessarily punished in normal or heroic dungeons
Im learning BDK and I can literally sit in place and spam death strike and live
so it ends up being a noob trap if the player doesnt try to continue polishing the rotation and learning different rotations for various situations
as bad VDHs are quite obvious in m+ and raid
foggy whale
Nobody is calling me bad but you care calling me “not good” which is just the exact same thing
Still the same thing, generalizing as you say
Because I have opinions on tanks?
Wow
fathom ingot
Tbf the original question would require opinion to answer
fathom ingot
a question about what tank class to play is very opinionated in nature
yes you can watch guides and whatnot but part of that includes asking people who have good experiences with certain tanks
agile lagoon
So the right answer is to give them the option to play every tank
foggy whale
Exactly
Why hold dk and dh way above the others
They classes have been out for years
agile lagoon
So the right answer is to give them the option to play every tank
Which is not opinionated
fathom ingot
just mention that they have a high learning curve
pallid fulcrum
@opaque comet
i wont range them in any specific order just how it is for me personally
Vengeance Demon hunter - Overall the class has some niches in terms of survivability and depends a fair amount on the healer when without major cds. The difficulty is id say average in terms of difficulty. In higher keys this is prefered due to dhs output of dps while being able to sustain himself and being able to have the cheat death ability.
Protection paladin - Personally i love playing as a venthyr paladin due to its high damage and healing potential on a big pull but can be very trickster to master. its usually very squishy and rely heavily on the persons experience of the dungeon. If you dont know what to expect within the dungeon it could be very hard. Has a few niches like BOP(blessing of protection) and divine shield. Id rate this one a hard difficulty but aswell it sustains okayish in high keys so it all depends on the players experience.
Brewmaster monk - Ive played as a dps and my main tank was always a monk and we were doing 22s and 20s. The ability to take so much damage and survive is incredible. Id say in terms of difficulty it is an average sort of as a Vengeance. it is easy to pickup but hard to master. ofcourse it relies on major cooldowns but can survive certain situations by kiting as can vengeance
do you mind i just joined another match ill finish the rest as soon as im done
ill finish my thoughts ofcourse with what i think you should play
but in another game gimme a bit
xD
fathom ingot
i chose bdk specifically for the high learning curve (and technically also because no one plays bdk)
prot pal 🤮
pallid fulcrum
uh oh we losing this round. my boy trying tho
pallid fulcrum
fortress attackers
opaque comet
Alexios gimme your thoughts on bear plox hehe
agile lagoon
Ah I don't like fortress
opaque comet
thanks for the info !
pallid fulcrum
will do as soon as im done
opaque comet
awesome
agile lagoon
Have you seen a vdh? They have more life steal in meta than a vampire
fathom ingot
gdruids are so damn tanky tho
vestal egret
For some reason everything in my battle net disappeared and when I logged in all my games were uninstalled. And also battle net is supposed to log in automatically and it didn't this time. Elp
Nah I looked at all the folders and everything disappeared
opaque comet
What would you say in regards to its difficulty?
pallid fulcrum
1/2 we close!
agile lagoon
@vestal egret sounds like you reset your PC lol
pallid fulcrum
boutta blow this joint
topaz cairn
so im getting into pvp and i wanna be able to see my enemys health and abilities but idk how to
yeh i wanna move it from top left i mean
opaque comet
Thanks gum, tbh bear sounds like a good starting point.
As I might not be the most efficient tank, but less likely to fk up?
fathom ingot
Prot pal is insanely hard to play well in high keys too
not maintaining proper defensives and you will get absolutely destroyed
agile lagoon
But very forgiving
pallid fulcrum
@opaque comet okay part 2
Protection warrior - at the start protection was really not the greatest due to secondary stats because it heavily relies off of it. I enjoyed it due to its ability to basically cut all damage you take (physical) by about 50% and a constant uptime on ignore pain. I really enjoy the playstyle of it because you sometimes need to kite sometimes not due to your shield wall. For about 8 seconds you feel like a god and then u can reset it quite quickly with shield slam and the legendary (i play with it personally). In terms of difficulty id say above average it relies on healer not as much because your capability to just sit there and take damage is incredible. later on it will probably become the strongest spec due to secondary stats
Blood death knight - oh boy. If you are planning on playing this in raid this is a really strong class due to its high hps and ability to survive without a healer even touching your ass. in keys.....its a whole another story. you really have to know the dungeon before entering it as a blood dk. At higher levels dks suffer from aggro capability and survivability. The premise of your whole encounter is to soak as much as you can and generate aggro and then just run. id say this will get better with itlvl because the death strike (thingy that gives back hp) strives off of % so he will be better later on. its a really difficult class to master and for me it felt unrewarding to play it at the start.
Guardian druid - Ur a wall. When you have incarnation and/or convoke you can tank up to 30 mobs easily even in higher keys. you can rack up to 10-15k hps while just standing there and just taking it all. In terms of difficulty its just some repeating spells that have to be managed but everything is situational. Ive understood that you can quite nicely survive dungeons and for me it was a fun experience. but the kiting potential isnt as big as with others
i need one more msg to finish im reaching my cap uh oh.
fucked the channel
Id say that for now if i was starting off without knowing any of the information above in terms of fun...id say its protection warr/guardian druid. you take your pick and whichever you prefer. as a guardian druid you rely less on the healer but thats entirely up to you.
yup!
agile lagoon
But not as forgiving
pallid fulcrum
guardian druid is the most forgiving one
ooh true monk is also really forgiving
paladin i would argue that it is good but some mobs can straight up oneshot you if you dont know what they doing
agile lagoon
paladin i would argue that it is good but some mobs can straight up oneshot you ...
Same for everything but paladin is forgiving with aoe DMG and good defensives/heals
pallid fulcrum
ofcourse!
opaque comet
Awesome !
will roll guardian to have my shot with a tank.
btw, I got a lv50 druid.
I'd rather maker a fresh one to remind myself of how to game works, how bad is it lvling to 50? lol
opaque comet
sounds good, I'll go for it.
last question - race still matters?
agile lagoon
Race is mainly appearance
agile lagoon
Just because your tiny orc are to lazy to walk that you need rocket boots doesn't make you a better race
pallid fulcrum
thanks for the help guys
Happy to help!
viscid barn
Hello im new at the game and im searching for a priest with specialisation Holy who could maybe help me at the stuffings and the skills
agile lagoon
Hello im new at the game and im searching for a priest with specialisation Holy ...
Watcha need?
viscid barn
Ehm abt the talents