wow-help

[short frost]

@sudden phoenix is there no suggestion on wowhead comments?

[solid wagon]

What health potion can I use in arena (wow shadowland)

[sudden phoenix]

tried the wowhead suggestions - no luck annd my shipyard is already lvl 3 so I can't go back to redo the quests

[forest lily]

Fodder to the Flame - https://www.wowhead.com/spell=329554/fodder-to-the-flame - Live 9.0.5

Fodder to the Flame

Live 9.0.5

[sudden phoenix]

Sorry - I meant specifically the blueprints for the blast furnace being checked off on the achi

[quiet narwhal]

Im new and curious: is it still possible to own a garrison from WoD?

[azure reef]

Yep

You get it at the end of the intro quest to draenor

[quiet narwhal]

Does it makes sense to get it? Also the one from legion or island from bfa?

[azure reef]

It’s useful if you want old mogs, achieves, mounts etc

But it doesn’t affect current end game at all

Except you can use the garrison to make gold since once upgraded it’s pretty useful for professions etc from WoD

Idk what island you mean for bfa, guessing mechagon/nazjatar?

[distant yacht]

anyone know if you can still get: https://www.wowhead.com/item=86125/kafa-press#comments and or while in chromie time?

i dont wanna sit here waiting all night for this dood to show if its been removed

[pallid fulcrum]

When does raid reset happen

[pallid fulcrum]

why is not ilvl 100 lvl 50 as in wowhead wiki?

[keen pewter]

Did you add the reagent to make it lvl50?

[pallid fulcrum]

that? only gives ilvl 87

[keen pewter]

I see

idk why wowhead says ilvl100

[honest harbor]

were do i go to get dredge leather?

the skinning skill

[iron stratus]

What level is suggested for Zulandar or however it's spelled. I don't want to have the same problem with my hunter as I do with my warlock

[keen pewter]

10

[iron stratus]

Ok

Thank you

[haughty dome]

I have a lot of anima in my bags i havent added to my sanctum.. If i pick a different covenant.. can i deposit all the anima in my bags into the new cov?

[pallid fulcrum]

@haughty dome yup you should be able to. It wont disappear

[somber haven]

Hi I'm new in the game.
And I have a problem w the UI.

I can't see my "Status bar (Character name /HP etc..) "

0 UI Addons

[coral rampart]

try /reload ui

[calm ocean]

server down?

[agile lagoon]

You have them you just have to set them up. Click the bartender icon by your minimap and customize it

[somber haven]

I'll try later, now the server is under maintenance. Thank you

[agile lagoon]

Weekly maint

[somber haven]

Yes

[calm ocean]

okaay thankyou

[somber haven]

I tried, but there is no option to edit the panel I need

[agile lagoon]

What panel do you need?

[somber haven]

Character pic/HP...
the one in the upper left corner. It disappeared and I have no idea how that happened. I just entered the game and it was already like this

[agile lagoon]

Idk, I don't think any of the addons you have actually affect your HP bar

[pallid fulcrum]

@somber haven type this into your chat box:

/run PlayerFrame:ClearAllPoints() PlayerFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",WorldFrame,-20,0)

Or rather copy/paste it

/run PlayerFrame:ClearAllPoints() PlayerFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",WorldFrame,-20,0)

Easier for you

[agile lagoon]

Or you can type it lol

Up to you

[pallid fulcrum]

Lmao true

[agile lagoon]

[somber haven]

Thanks
Now I try

[somber haven]

WORK!!! THAX U

I love u

[pallid fulcrum]

@somber haven Np! I had the same issue a year ago or something and still had the command saved

[tight elbow]

Reeeeeeeeeeeee

Why do zoomers not know how to screenshot!

[agile lagoon]

I do :(

[pallid fulcrum]

They can't even eat their food without taking pics of it

[tight elbow]

Yup

[pallid fulcrum]

Tiktok ya know

It runs in their veins

Cringe runs in their veins

Also I'm gen Z and I know how to eat without taking a picture because I don't use either Tik Tok or Instagram

I use REDDIT

I am cultured

love it when account wide venari rep was just a joke

[tight elbow]

It's not a joke

[pallid fulcrum]

Hi there.
Quick question,
I have a a WoW Subscription but not the Shadowlands expansion. Can I still raid?

[tight elbow]

You can't do any Shadowlands content without purchasing Shadowlands

[pallid fulcrum]

Not the current content

But I could participate in raids like Siege of Orgrimmar for example?

[pallid fulcrum]

Then how did I hit Ambivalent on my other char today instead of Appreciative?

[pallid fulcrum]

You can easily solo it at level 50 yes

[cobalt flint]

You could do old raids, but you might have difficulties finding other people willing to go with you. But you can do some solo, if they are not Legion or BFA

[pallid fulcrum]

Because i Have a level 50 Character but I can't use the raid finder

Yeah you can just walk in.

[tight elbow]

Because it doesn't happen like that. The rep being account wide means that sat your main is exalted with her, on your alt, you'll have access to all he inventory without the rep grind again

[pallid fulcrum]

(sorry for german but i think he is) Du kannst alle Raids bis zu denen von Legion komplett solo laufen.

[pallid fulcrum]

Oh okay, thats shitty.

[tight elbow]

Not really

[pallid fulcrum]

Well I just wanted to get started grinding the Bound Shadehound but I guess I can go frick myself

[tight elbow]

???

No?

You can

You can buy the item

[pallid fulcrum]

Yes, the Stygia Dowser only appears in her shop once you've reached Appreciative and unlocked the grapling chain

[tight elbow]

It should appear for you rn since her entire inventory is available to you

[pallid fulcrum]

How is her entire inventory available for me?

@tight elbow

He is ambivalent

Not appreciative

So hes still got one left

Yeah thats why I said the account-wide rep isnt working since I've grinded that shit out almost two times now

[tight elbow]

It is working

[pallid fulcrum]

But ur allowed to buy shit from ambivalent

[tight elbow]

You need to get her rep higher on your main

[pallid fulcrum]

Bcs ur grinding on two doesnt mean its gonna fill eachother up like 1+1

They still gonna be on the same level uniquely to their character

If you had one char who has appreciative

And one who has nothing

You could buy all on the one who has nothing

I have 2 mains and both are ambivalent

But not appreciative

yeah and thats a shitty way to say her rep is accountwide when its just her store

Well her store is the only thing that matters

So im not sure what ur perspective is at now

[tight elbow]

No it's not

[pallid fulcrum]

Bais been telling u the right thong

Thing

Im not saying he is wrong

[tight elbow]

It was silly to assume that the rep you gained on one, would fill the bar of another. That has never been the case in wow

[pallid fulcrum]

Exactly

Well thats what "Account-Wide" means to me

Well then in that scenario youd be able to make so much money

If reps were account bound

Ud just hop and do dailies constantly

And get 10k paragon in a minute xD

[tight elbow]

That's not what account wide means in wow. Never has, never will

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah sure buddy

Account-wide mounts or gear isnt account-wide after all

[tight elbow]

-.- Completely different systems. Heirlooms and Mounts are collectibles

Reputations are not

[pallid fulcrum]

Still account-wide means account-wide

But different context changes a word

Wowza

[cobalt flint]

I believe in this situation "account wide" means that all of your characters have access to the same stuff as your character with the highest rep. But they don't have a shared pool, so you can't grind a bit on one character, then a bit on another, and have it both count.

[tight elbow]

^

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah that still only means that the store is account-wide not the rep and everyone and their grandma said and wrote that its the rep thats account-wide

[tight elbow]

We've tried explaining this but he just retorts, "well sure buddy" or "that's not what account wide means to me "

[tight elbow]

The rep is still account wide

[pallid fulcrum]

What does this even mean

[cobalt flint]

I guess they used a mental shortcut and didn't explain all the details of how exactly it works.

[fathom ingot]

You know account wide mounts are account wide because you only need to get it once

same with rep, you still need to get it once

You cant combine achivements and unlock mounts locked behind achivements

[pallid fulcrum]

Even this makes more sense

[tight elbow]

Unless you want the rewards on Two characters, because rarely are the reps account wide.

[fathom ingot]

If you could collectively farm rep, then it'd be kinda broken imo

[pallid fulcrum]

whatever dawg now I have to wait 2 more weeks to get a mount in the maw

[cobalt flint]

WoW never had a truly account-wide reputation (as in with a shared pool). So I understand why players describe this as an account-wide reputation.

[pallid fulcrum]

Not if you do Twisting Corridors

Twisting Corridors and the shadehound hunt drop Maw mounts

And how am I suppose to get into the twisting corridors

i havent done anything in the maw or torghast but a few layer 8 runs

[neon cedar]

do the questline and walk in

[pallid fulcrum]

By continuing your covenant campaign and unlocking Twisting Corridors through Bolvar

I did the Jaina thing yesterday but he has no other quest for me anymore

There's more to do

Earn more renown and progress your covenant campaign

monkaS

[fathom ingot]

just wait till 9.1

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm basically done :D

[fathom ingot]

and max renown is 80

[pallid fulcrum]

And what's your campaign progress?

Idk where to check it but I'm 100% done

In your quest log, the campaign progress is listed on the top-right

Because if you've completed your covenant campaign and done what you should have done, you should have unlocked Twisting Corridors by now

[fathom ingot]

Bolvar isnt part of the campaign though

you have to pick up that quest separately in oribos no?

[pallid fulcrum]

It's tracked alongside the campaign progress as prerequisite stages, I believe

with everything done I have no quests anywhere, nothing in Sinfall, Ve'nari or Oribos (besides the weekly rep one)

That's weird. You don't even have the "Story So Far" section

Does it show up here if I'd had unlocked it?

[fathom ingot]

I think that's an addon

because those tabs arent normal I think

[pallid fulcrum]

It shows up when im anywhere in the shadowlands but Oribos

Then check it, because something isn't right. I managed to unlock Twisting Corridors the same week I hit 60 on a recent alt

ima check torghast real quick

You'd know if you unlocked Twisting Corridors because you would have done the quest to do so

nothing here

Yeah I dont know, will probably have to wait till tomorrow

[fathom ingot]

Have you done any quests from bolvar where you have to rescue people?

[pallid fulcrum]

He said he did Jaina

Which means there are still the clues for Anduin to do

Only the jaina one, I know theres suppose to be the arthas one he doesnt offer me anything rn

I still think you might be missing something covenant-related

I have this one too

[pallid fulcrum]

So I looked it up. If you haven't unlocked TC before, then you are stuck behind the weekly progression for the Bolvar questline

[fathom ingot]

One more week then

[pallid fulcrum]

The shadehound hunt is still an option though

[fathom ingot]

I believe they took down some of the time gating so it can be done in 2 weeks

[pallid fulcrum]

Just do your dailies for Ve'nari until you get the rep to have her unlock the Beastwarrens for you

So there is literally nothing to for me today huh

I have the beastwarrens unlocked but this week was the winged something hunt

Kill rares in the Maw, do dailies and events in there until your Eye meter is maxed out, etc

Never say "there's literally nothing for me to do" until your achievement progress is at 100%

I have almost any achievement from Vanilla to MOP and I couldnt care less about WoD onwards idk

[fathom ingot]

Always M+ and raid to do 🙂

or just stock up gold for next tier

[pallid fulcrum]

What do you mean next tier

Also M+ and Raids are mostly boosts or guild runs that I'll never get invited to

[keen pewter]

M+ is very much not just guild runs

And same for raid

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm ilvl 197 and my max run I did was maybe a +5 and I don't get invited to raids at all

[fathom ingot]

Well you need higher ilvl obviously

[pallid fulcrum]

how do I get higher ilvl if I cant get into groups

[fathom ingot]

cov gear is 197

pvp gear is 197 (honor) or 200+ (conquest)

just doing keys will drop 200+ gear

normal raid is 200 gear already

[pallid fulcrum]

Thing with keys is that they usually reach the time max and im playing Alliance EU which makes pvp nearly impossible to play

[fathom ingot]

Saying that you're alliance is a terrible excuse

I'm alliance as well

[polar wasp]

Host your own keys my man

[pallid fulcrum]

in 15 games I we maybe win 3 games

[fathom ingot]

also keys depleting is not really a common thing

[polar wasp]

Make the group yourself for raids

[fathom ingot]

generally they're timed within a reasonable margin

[polar wasp]

Join guild

[polar wasp]

While i agree that horde is greatly dominant in pve, "im alliance" is no excuse for not putting in the effort to do it yourself

[fathom ingot]

Eh I wouldnt recommend hosting a raid if you're not 10/10 N for normal raid or 10/10 H for heroic raid

generally those type of people are just asking for carries

[pallid fulcrum]

I tried joining guilds and doing my own groups but as a dps the group just never really fill up before everyone gives up

[polar wasp]

Its because of the "you cant get kicked if youre the group leader"

[fathom ingot]

and no one good will join lol

[polar wasp]

That is unfortunate, but i really advise you persevere

[pallid fulcrum]

this

[fathom ingot]

a quick run with the same guy dying over and over and a quick check of logs and history, and people will leave

or just simply not join

[polar wasp]

As long as ppl dont die,normal raid is pretty low expectations

People wont leave if there is no constant wipes

Back in the jaina mythic mount farm days,i hosted kill runs with worldquest gear and ppl still joined,they only left if we wiped more than twice

[pallid fulcrum]

But no, go ahead and justify malcontent by making grossly inaccurate overexaggerations

[fathom ingot]

You will have to wait for the group to fill up as a dps

[polar wasp]

Yeah,dps is literally the short end of the stick

There is like 10k dps for every tank or healer player(numbers may be very exaggerated)

[fathom ingot]

I mean in stuff like +5, the wait isn't as excruciating as it is in higher keys

[polar wasp]

So dps players are so abundant theyre disposable

Instead of tank/healer which are rare

[pallid fulcrum]

My 201 Pala tank gets invited to HC raids without curve whilst I won't be accpeted into normal CN as a 197 dps

[polar wasp]

Thats how mafia works

[pallid fulcrum]

also the "I'm on a Diet" achievement doesn't work as described

[polar wasp]

There is so so SOOO many ppl playing dps,the party leader can afford to wait for a better than 197 dps,
But tanks are rare(because no one wants the responsibility, they just want to turn brain off and do dps) so theyd rather invite undergeared,non curved tank,than wait so long

For another tank to queue

[fathom ingot]

I mean groups that invite undergeared, underexperienced tanks are pretty much bad groups

unless it's a non sire kill and just one of the few first bosses

but such pugs will take forever to get kills although they are good for learning and gaining experience

[pallid fulcrum]

Tanking with nice healers is way easier than playing dps

[polar wasp]

Eh,given he has trouble joining groups,he should get what he can take

[polar wasp]

Here's the caveat "nice healers" isnt a guarantee

[fathom ingot]

I'm just warning that pugs wont be as smooth as he expects

[polar wasp]

Nor is a guarantee dps actually doing mechanics

Or the other tank either

[pallid fulcrum]

Usually when I tanked, the other tank and I just whispered when to taunt or move and thats it

as a Paladin I outhealed some healers myself lol but its still nice to see some other healing coming in

[fathom ingot]

I mean to be fair, tanking CN is pretty braindead

[pallid fulcrum]

yes

[fathom ingot]

at least on normal and heroic

it's literally taunt swapping and making sure the boss looks the right way

[polar wasp]

Pugs range from "stupider than original 2004 vanilla raiders" to "slightly brain damaged normal raiders"
Even the "link curve " groups have only like 60% success chance

The perfect pug thats super smooth is rarer than dropping invincible

[pallid fulcrum]

"link curve" are the worst of the worst lol

I remember doing a few "link curve" in 8.3 and the groups usually disbanded after a few wipes

[fathom ingot]

I just check if they have mythic runs complete

a group with mythic raiders would zoom through any heroic run

[polar wasp]

Thats why I've always held the opinion that "non link curve" groups on average achieve more than curve groups

[pallid fulcrum]

also the "link curve" are usually people with curve looking to get their alts boosted

[polar wasp]

Mostly because ppl are less inclined to leave after 1 wipe,due to curve being the carrot on a stick

[polar wasp]

And people who join those groups are looking for ez kills and to push their logs so they will slack on the mechanics and leave after 1 wipe,because they got curve already

[pallid fulcrum]

the cherry on top of this is that you can easily buy a curve boost for less than 50k

[polar wasp]

Why would mythic raiders host a pug instead of clearing with the guild

That is very unlikely to happen

[fathom ingot]

Quick kills for vault

[polar wasp]

If they want quick kills they can do it with their own guild

[fathom ingot]

You would have to organize it and all that jazz

I see it all the time, some ?/10 M raider hosting a heroic raid

[polar wasp]

Your contingency is rare and not the norm,and in the last case its ONE person thats a mythic raider

[fathom ingot]

even just yesterday, had about 10 people from my guild host a H sire kill

[polar wasp]

Out of 19

[fathom ingot]

It certainly is the norm from my experience

[polar wasp]

Host a HC clear for the guy then,since you're both alliance and this is the norm

Easy as that

[pallid fulcrum]

Hell, I know on my raid finder there's almost always one or two groups that are there specifically to help people learn mechanics

[fathom ingot]

Why would I host a carry lmao

[polar wasp]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[fathom ingot]

If I'm going to carry, I want gold

and I doubt he has enough gold to pay for a heroic CN boost

[pallid fulcrum]

Why does everyone want RDPS

[polar wasp]

@pallid fulcrum the system's dogshit just like IRL companies hiring,
You either do it yourself or you get spat in the face

[pallid fulcrum]

lol true

[polar wasp]

Because CN is very bad for melees

Too much movement

[pallid fulcrum]

Bad for melees who don't know what to do

[fathom ingot]

There's generally a lot of mdps already as well

[jovial flicker]

what are the weekly torg halls ?

[fathom ingot]

skoldus and coldheart

[jovial flicker]

😮 i can finally get my bis

[fathom ingot]

and rdps variety brings a lot more utlity

[jovial flicker]

ty

[fathom ingot]

you stack a lot of mdps and you dont get so much

I mean you could bring one warrior for battle shout

[pallid fulcrum]

i have a hunter at level 57, would it be better to just get him to 60 to start raiding

[fathom ingot]

dh for darkness

[pallid fulcrum]

i am playing warrior tho

[fathom ingot]

so?

you're low ilvl and with little experience

being a dps means you will compete for your spot every single time you apply

and there's a lot of competition

[pallid fulcrum]

I have experience and know how everything works in Normal and HC, just my ilvl is low

[fathom ingot]

What's your progress in HC and normal?

[agile lagoon]

Then you should be able to get it up quickly if you have xp

[fathom ingot]

like bosses killed out of 10

[pallid fulcrum]

I've done like 9/10 Normal on my Tank and 3/10 HC lol

[agile lagoon]

Kek

[pallid fulcrum]

and I know how sire works just never did him

[agile lagoon]

Kek

[fathom ingot]

that's not promising from a lead's perspective, you have to understand that

[agile lagoon]

So you should do normal 10/10 first

[fathom ingot]

10/10 N at least will get you a decent shot into the first 7 bosses of H

and progressing through H will mean better chances at last three

[fathom ingot]

Also knowing the theory behind a boss doesnt mean you can actually do it

[keen pewter]

You can know the theory all you want

But you need to actually do it to know

[agile lagoon]

Tru

[fathom ingot]

I've had people die three times in a row to the dance macarabe mechanic from council of blood

[pallid fulcrum]

You guys act like raiding is like a real life job, you have to have experience in the job before you can do it

[agile lagoon]

It ez tho lol

[keen pewter]

that's pretty bad

[agile lagoon]

And fun

[keen pewter]

Yeah

It's how it is

[fathom ingot]

@pallid fulcrum Thats kinda how it is

it's a sucky job finder

[keen pewter]

You start with normal, or jump to hc if you get in a group

[pallid fulcrum]

cant have experience if you didnt do the job right

[keen pewter]

But ppl want experience for hc

[fathom ingot]

Well some people dont mind taking a new person there and there

also there are plenty of raiding guilds

Just join one?

[agile lagoon]

Gotta get your degree in the industry (10/10 n) before you can get a job in the field (heroic)

Or get connections

[fathom ingot]

I've pugged most of my H and N kills

also I've pugged nearly every single key I've done

[keen pewter]

A guild does wonder to this game anyhow

Don't be a loner

[fathom ingot]

it's definitely possible to pug stuff but you need to find a guild and apply a ton

[pallid fulcrum]

I tried applying for gulids but I'm german and bro let me tell you that German "raiding" guilds are the weirdest people ever

[agile lagoon]

Bruh

Every guild has a different personality

[polar wasp]

I often disagree with the guy but thats true ^

[keen pewter]

Thx etalien

[snow pivot]

Tons of people say they know mechanics and then die to them repeatedly ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fathom ingot]

^

[white rampart]

there's a difference to knowing mechanics and know how to execute said mechanics 🙂

[agile lagoon]

^

[keen pewter]

Knowing how Massacre knows doesn't mean you know not to kill the add just before Massacre 😛 also you need to dodge anyhow

[fathom ingot]

Raid and m+ are the one thing where it's a lot easier to say something than to actually do it

[white rampart]

also people panic for some reason

[pallid fulcrum]

And there's a difference between knowing how to do the mechanics and then actually doing them

[polar wasp]

Its like singing songs,you know the words in your head,but when you try singing,it comes out all shit and voice cracks etc

[keen pewter]

Srsly some of my guildmates are just bad at dodging laser beams lol

[agile lagoon]

PvP kekW

[keen pewter]

I can dodge with 170ms ping and they with 20ms die to them

so bad

[fathom ingot]

@keen pewter You dodge the massacre but get cornered and get blasted off the platform by crescendo instead

[agile lagoon]

Lmao

[fathom ingot]

very fun

[polar wasp]

I forgot if you actually killed sire or not

[keen pewter]

If the group knows what's doing you aren't getting crescendo during massacre

[white rampart]

how do you even play with such a ping 😮 do you play in another region or something?

[keen pewter]

yeah we did in week..

[agile lagoon]

Just get a priest pocket ez

[pallid fulcrum]

They usually consist of a 50-year old chainsmoking female raidlead that leaves mid-fight to take her dog out, a younger guy mid 20's who constantly laughs like a fucking maniac because he's so excited to see a raid from the inside and dies constantly, a few like 30-40 year old dudes usually reacting to mechanics like they're on 1500ms ping and foreigners who literally dont speak german

[keen pewter]

Week 14

[pallid fulcrum]

So it's everyone else's fault but your own, right?

[polar wasp]

Sounds like a raidgroup from preachs dramatime

[pallid fulcrum]

?????

[snow pivot]

Which one are you?

[white rampart]

lmao

that must be a copypasta

[agile lagoon]

That's what I'm reading g

[keen pewter]

I have 3-4 sire kills, the guild got into break after the 2nd kill I think and then I pugged 2 more kills

[pallid fulcrum]

I just want people my age lol, people that stfu and listen to the lead, do their job and don't die to bloodsplats on shriekwing

Then make that group

[snow pivot]

^^

[polar wasp]

I think we got 5/10 mythic before we decided to take break for 9.1

[fathom ingot]

Well having people the same age is difficult

[agile lagoon]

Then ask about the community when joining a guild

[keen pewter]

yh but thats cuz u guys r swety

[fathom ingot]

but applying to guilds shouldnt be that difficult

[pallid fulcrum]

There are only old people playing in Germany

[polar wasp]

Thats literally what any sane person wants

[fathom ingot]

Cant you join an English speaking guild? Or is there a time zone issue

[snow pivot]

Well time to move then ig lmao

[polar wasp]

Nah,we just gud players,and even then we're still carrying half the raid

[pallid fulcrum]

The game is 16+ years old, ofc there are going to be people older than you playing it. I started playing in Vanilla and I was still old enough to vote and pay taxes

[pallid fulcrum]

No but I'm on aegwynn and you can only join guilds from your Realm-pool which are all german

[polar wasp]

Our feral one day came in like "guys im world 4th on warcraft logs for feral" 😂

[keen pewter]

I guess we should had tried Mythic, we just had a hard time getting 20M

[polar wasp]

Join english guild

[snow pivot]

Then realm transfer?

[pallid fulcrum]

spend more money sure

[agile lagoon]

Tokens my guy

[keen pewter]

nah just level up a new dude

You don't have any gear

So there's no loss

[white rampart]

so? there are currently almost 7k feral logs, that's really good

[fathom ingot]

Spend like 15 USD for a much better experience is a good deal for me

[polar wasp]

Poor jogipog is literally his profile pic right now

[pallid fulcrum]

15 usd? bro its 25€ to transfer

[agile lagoon]

He's saying play on na realms

[snow pivot]

Then start a new toon

[keen pewter]

No?

[polar wasp]

No

[keen pewter]

Why would you play on NA from europe wtf

[agile lagoon]

Yes he is

[pallid fulcrum]

a NA account would cost even more lol

[fathom ingot]

Oh yeah stuff in EU have different pricing

[keen pewter]

Also that^

[pallid fulcrum]

If you're only 197 it's no loss to make a new character. You get a full set of 197 just for the covenant campaign

[fathom ingot]

it's a lot cheaper in NA I think

[keen pewter]

sub+shadowlands

[keen pewter]

It's on par honestly

It's just that salaries are higher in usa

[pallid fulcrum]

wrong, you get 2 pieces of 197 gear, you have to grind anima for the rest

[snow pivot]

Then suffer

[polar wasp]

Consider that mostly everyone is waiting for 9.1 and not making actual raid progression,so take this time to settle down on new server

[keen pewter]

(in EU)

[agile lagoon]

Kek, you get the anima from the campaign

[pallid fulcrum]

Which you should have by then if you're playing the content 🙄

[fathom ingot]

Anima farming is easy as heck

[pallid fulcrum]

Anima is cockass

[fathom ingot]

nowhere as hard as a grind as m+ and raid

[snow pivot]

Beggars can’t be choosers honey

[pallid fulcrum]

Hell, the weekly right now gives 750 anima

[polar wasp]

I have 4 alts(1 of each cov) you get an anima buff from all buildings at rank 1 plus worldboss and callings and other things,you can upgrade the gear within a week

[pallid fulcrum]

If you want the rewards that are behind content, you generally have to play that content

Yeah I saw the next weekly gives 750

[fathom ingot]

if you want to complain about not getting gear within a week's frame, then you should realize it gets a lot worse

[agile lagoon]

That crazy

[fathom ingot]

waiting weeks and months for a single piece of gear to show up

[polar wasp]

Our collective advice,if you think all german guilds are weird,reroll to an english server

Build that char up

[fathom ingot]

it took me four weeks to get my one piece of gear I needed

[agile lagoon]

Raiding itself isn't guaranteed to give gear

[keen pewter]

I mean

raiding does give fear

kek

[snow pivot]

If money is an issue then rethink your priorities

[agile lagoon]

Lol true

[pallid fulcrum]

The only time gear is guaranteed is when gear is explicitly listed as a reward

[fathom ingot]

and that's after doing the same raid boss on all three difficulties, and unlocking all three raid slots in vault

[polar wasp]

More like performance anxiety if you only ever do pugs

[fathom ingot]

so it took 24 tries in a month to get one piece of gear

[pallid fulcrum]

Whats a genuinely english realm tho? I tried burning legion, its like 95% polish people. Ravencrest is french and other realms are speaking even more languages lol

Drops are a chance at gear. Dropped gear is not guaranteed gear

[agile lagoon]

Idk EU realms besides tauren mill

[polar wasp]

Thats a high end issue when you're doing heroic but already have 90% gear at 213,not an issue at the start

[keen pewter]

I'm 221 or so, stopped playing retail some weeks ago

[polar wasp]

Idk man,check the biggest EU english servers,and pick the one with the highest alliance playerbase

[keen pewter]

I should get my KSM someday but eh

[pallid fulcrum]

That would be silvermoon

[keen pewter]

Wrong

Pick the highest horde playerbase, and play horde

😠

[pallid fulcrum]

Horde 😆

you mean the plot laughing stock?

[polar wasp]

I agree playing alliance is a mistake

[pallid fulcrum]

Play on a balanced server and play both

[agile lagoon]

So much better

[fathom ingot]

It is, which is my point. I was saying that the grind will only get a lot worse and I have a high endgame example

if he can't handle doing a week's worth of content for basically a full set of 197 gear, then he's gonna suffer grinding specific pieces of gear once his ilvl is high enough

[polar wasp]

The season 2 ksm reward is a recolor of season1 so no rush

[snow pivot]

Is prettier tho :D

[pallid fulcrum]

Well if youre only after that one piece of gear then your whole group is probably decked out in 213 aswell so its easy going from there

[fathom ingot]

heheheh, you have no idea

it's not easy going at all

[agile lagoon]

Lmao

[keen pewter]

aren't we on S1 still?

[pallid fulcrum]

Yes

[fathom ingot]

I think the mount was leaked already @keen pewter

[agile lagoon]

He's so blinded from the truth

[fathom ingot]

or at least shown

[keen pewter]

ah

I don't look at leaks

They make me wet

[polar wasp]

My group was all 220-225 ilvl
And one guy chased this trinket for 4 weeks xD

[keen pewter]

(get it? cuz it's a leak)

[polar wasp]

But you're a guy

[fathom ingot]

Oh I thought they made you horny for some odd reason

[agile lagoon]

Even better

[pallid fulcrum]

@polar wasp ksm is prob gonna be a simple 2 week grind from the start of 9.1

[agile lagoon]

Don't judge

[pallid fulcrum]

Raiding with only one difficulty was better (and now I'm gonna watch you all disagree)

[keen pewter]

Yeah you're wrong

[agile lagoon]

Lol

[fathom ingot]

I started july 2020, i never knew what one difficulty raiding is

except wiping 100+ times to lfr nzoth

[polar wasp]

Id say ||Classic Andy spotted|| but that would be rude

[agile lagoon]

But true

[pallid fulcrum]

nah i dont like classic i have one char at level 13

[keen pewter]

What was the single difficulty equivalent to ? to wod hc?

[agile lagoon]

So have you never grinded for anything?

[polar wasp]

Id say 3 difficulties is the sweetspot instead of the 4 we have now,
But having more difficulties makes the content most accessible

[keen pewter]

I mean, we really have only 3

Raiding people don't really LFR

[pallid fulcrum]

The only grind that's worth bitching about is the Timbermaw grind

[polar wasp]

Technically we stopped having single difficulty in wrath,so it was like Easier than LFR in terms of mechanical complexity

[pallid fulcrum]

I killed sire on lfr and mythic gotta admit lfr was harder

[fathom ingot]

Yeah I will press doubt for that

[agile lagoon]

Lol

[keen pewter]

well yeah mechanics has always gotten harder with time

[pallid fulcrum]

The hardest grind i ever did was the talbuks in nagrand

[keen pewter]

But numbers weren't

[pallid fulcrum]

LFR is harder than mythic, change my mind 🤣

[fathom ingot]

LFR this tier is braindead

[keen pewter]

Hardest Grind? Hmmm. Farming Ravenholdt in Cata was a bit boring, and so was pirates

Grind is not hard anyhow, it's just tedious

[polar wasp]

The difficulty at the time was people being shit not the content being hard,as seen by how fast classic was cleared

[pallid fulcrum]

Okay but LFR N'Zoth tho...

[pallid fulcrum]

I enjoyed lfr nzoth. Watching people bitch about it was enjoying hahah

Ravenholdt rep lol

[keen pewter]

world buffs tho

We'll have to see now in tbc how much they really skewed stuff

[agile lagoon]

@keen pewter have you 60 on your hunter?

[fathom ingot]

I've never killed lfr nzoth

[pallid fulcrum]

Tbc is going to be shit and they will 100% monetize everything

[polar wasp]

World buffs are automatically remoced when you enter instances in tbc ptr

[keen pewter]

Not quite yet

[polar wasp]

Atm

[fathom ingot]

tried it so many times but people dont know mechanics

[keen pewter]

Source: 4chan

[pallid fulcrum]

The one time I did LFR N'Zoth it took about four hours

[agile lagoon]

Ooo I still have a chance

[keen pewter]

yeah, that's what I mean

[pallid fulcrum]

8 determination stacks on my mage. Tanked pschus 1 and 2. 600k hp

Source: me

[keen pewter]

LFR BFA was harsh anyhow

[pallid fulcrum]

Ah, so no source

[fathom ingot]

We wiped for two hours after getting 10 stacks

[keen pewter]

The fish people on the second raid lol

instawipe if somebody is not in bubble

[pallid fulcrum]

I mean

[fathom ingot]

yeah needless to say, I cant wait to solo nzoth's ass

[keen pewter]

I had to learn the fight just to do LFR lmao and lead it

[pallid fulcrum]

People were dying before the boss

[keen pewter]

(didn't play bfa, I'm talking during sl prepatch)

[pallid fulcrum]

Just bcs people didnt know where to click to breathe underwater

"why am I mind controlled the fight just started REEEE"

Y’all really need a source to see they‘re already fuckin around with monetization

[keen pewter]

Are you on Mankrik?

[agile lagoon]

Ye

[keen pewter]

Neat

[pallid fulcrum]

Mankrik wife

[polar wasp]

You see LFR is a bunch of idiots who probably dont even know they have any other spell other than their rotation,
Mythic is sometimes easier than lfr just by time spent clearing

[keen pewter]

Yeah but I understand LFR people

[agile lagoon]

They don't even know they have a rotation lol

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah, Blizzard is using 5G networks to break players since the chemtrails weren't working 🙄

[keen pewter]

They aren't raiders, so it's my job to help them clear it

[pallid fulcrum]

Hmm odd q but for you all. What was the most simple/boring boss for you guys on mythic

[keen pewter]

If I wanted fast LFR runs I'd queue with half my guild

[pallid fulcrum]

Bro 5G is frying your brain better burn down the 5G towers

[neon cedar]

your brain's already fried

so what's it matter?

[agile lagoon]

Lmao

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah i live in a big city they fried me overnight

Garrulous come on he's already dead

[fathom ingot]

it's liked fried chicken

[pallid fulcrum]

You don't have to empty the whole magazine

[fathom ingot]

ideally the chicken is dead first

🙂

[neon cedar]

[agile lagoon]

"Sir, your under arrest for the murder of Jogipog"

[pallid fulcrum]

Hold a chicken next to a 5g box and watch it turn into chicken nugges

[keen pewter]

idrk, I'm not much of a CE raider

[hasty spear]

guys when did this channel evolve to #no-wow-discussion

[fathom ingot]

mcdonalds would like to know your location

[fathom ingot]

shriek

[agile lagoon]

Every day

[fathom ingot]

Im not CE but shriek is just... so simple

[keen pewter]

shriek did look pretty tame in Mythic, I wanted to try but my guild'sabunchapussies

[pallid fulcrum]

When people started bitching under the guise of asking for help

For me it was Inerva. It was really just not good enough. Yeah the mechanics start becoming more and more. But i find it more dull then shriek. With shriek u can fuck around and steal the lamp from guildies

Its just a dps race :(

Warriors should receive a 20% dps buff

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[keen pewter]

80

[pallid fulcrum]

Warriors should get a sticker above their head "wetaded"

[agile lagoon]

If you get to 80 let me know

[pallid fulcrum]

Private server discussion isn't allowed here

[ember root]

oh sorry

[agile lagoon]

Kek

[ember root]

huh

[agile lagoon]

Agreed lol

[pallid fulcrum]

how are warriors retarded

One button spec arms. Fury is just slamming ur head against the keyboard

The only reason to bring a warrior to raid is for a 5% buff and rally cry

[keen pewter]

add me if u wanna

[pallid fulcrum]

Thats literally all their used for

[polar wasp]

Inter sliding in dem dms 😏

[pallid fulcrum]

so literally any class rn

[agile lagoon]

Sure, can't play tonight but I'll be on tomorrow

[coral rampart]

yet some wars top dps charts in mythic raids

must be lucky right ?

[keen pewter]

Horny local girl wanna know your location

[white rampart]

it depends on the fight on SLG fury warrior absolutely tops the meters

[fathom ingot]

#wow-help btw

[pallid fulcrum]

Speaking of DMs

Wanna go, Dafire?

[polar wasp]

Oh no,im about to be kidnapped

[pallid fulcrum]

Im not denying the top warrs dps. They actually think about the rotation. I got a buddy in my guild whos 226 fury war and he crushes it on slg

[agile lagoon]

Bye buddy

[fathom ingot]

welcome to brazil

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm taking him to Not Florida

[agile lagoon]

Uh oh I'm there

[pallid fulcrum]

And nvm

Gotta go

[agile lagoon]

Rip

[young terrace]

207+, preferably 210+

[pallid fulcrum]

whats a nice horde class race to game on a english eu realm that hasnt been discovered yet

[polar wasp]

If you want to play warrior,then definitely orc imo

If your alliance warrior was a human,im going to stop talking with you this second

[keen pewter]

it's not like race matter anyways

except humans

[pallid fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[polar wasp]

Race is only aestethic for 99.999 of players

[keen pewter]

Humans are just so dull

OP racials; dull as fuck

[pallid fulcrum]

"Humans are just so normal it doesn't fit the fantasy at all" - plays tauren moomoo

Your opinion is dull

dull

need realm still

just saw a newcomer on the nyalotha mythic mount lifes good

[last quiver]

I need two people to help me with the black iron dwarf dungeon anyone wants to help me with this quick!

[keen pewter]

So @pallid fulcrum , how much handholding you need to find a realm that suits you?

[pallid fulcrum]

just want people to talk english

[keen pewter]

Do you want me to breastfeed you as well?

[pallid fulcrum]

If youre a female individual, yes

[keen pewter]

Then open english realm, create a dude and ask what's the population like in trade

Like we all did to find our realm of choice

[pallid fulcrum]

hmm

that sounds too smart

[agile lagoon]

So yes he needs that much assistance lol

[pallid fulcrum]

i degenerated my brain in the last 20 minutes to become a horde member so of course im going to need help

[fathom ingot]

I just chose the first new player realm i saw in the list lmao

then I met a guild premade that i really liked so i realm transferred to join their guild

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[agile lagoon]

Yea I don't think you could actually realize that you had to make yourself smarter to picj horde

[polar wasp]

i know you're joking,but there's sites that show player population split by faction

[pallid fulcrum]

That is?

[agile lagoon]

Google

[pallid fulcrum]

Stormscale sounds nice

double pog

do we have a unholy dk gamer in here

[agile lagoon]

Ello

[pallid fulcrum]

how hard do you hit

and how braindead is the rotation

[agile lagoon]

That depends on if you use CDs or not lol

[pallid fulcrum]

hmm

slappy hands hit quite hard I know that

[agile lagoon]

And kinda intricate because you have to watch your dots on enemies

[pallid fulcrum]

Dotwatch

Do you have any addons for that or are you just gaming with eyes?

[agile lagoon]

Eyes

[keen pewter]

boring troll

[agile lagoon]

And weakauras

[agile lagoon]

:(

[polar wasp]

Weakauras are the answers to most problems

[pallid fulcrum]

Idk, all the weakauras I tried so far were either completely in russian or just buggy

[keen pewter]

Not you lol

[agile lagoon]

Wagio

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah I know

[agile lagoon]

Oh pog

[pallid fulcrum]

you cant even skip the dk intro as an old school race

[agile lagoon]

Yes because lore

[pallid fulcrum]

bruh

[polar wasp]

If you want to skip the dk intro

Make an allied race dk

[pallid fulcrum]

but they cant be edgy undeads

[polar wasp]

Then sit through the starting zone

[pallid fulcrum]

and I guess they all start the same level anyways

[agile lagoon]

Its like 1 hour

[pallid fulcrum]

and gives xp

[tulip wharf]

is there an addon that displays rare items you pick up

[agile lagoon]

Your backpack?

[pallid fulcrum]

yo! i played wow like 2 years ago and then i was new to it also so im still a noob and dont remember how it works. if i bought the game before... do i need to buy the whole game again to get the latest dlc or how does that work? and how does it works with this subscribtion and game time?

[polar wasp]

You just need the sub to play everything in the game except last dlc

[pallid fulcrum]

thanks and if i going to buy the latest dlc then its like to buy the whole game again?

[polar wasp]

Latest dlc gets you the latest content

Which is shadowlands

90% of the game is just subscription

[pallid fulcrum]

thanks

[tight elbow]

Love dramatime. Always hilarious

[tight elbow]

I dinged dk two weeks ago, and in a week I went from 134 to 203. It's not hard to gear up.

[pallid fulcrum]

i googled some and wondering... so game time and sub is the same thing but sub is on going and game time is ending after the choosen days? thats the only difference?

[agile lagoon]

Yep

You can by 2 months of game time. After the two months you can buy more or chill without wow

[pallid fulcrum]

alright. thanks. i think im good to go then. wow... im coming back!

[shy island]

What are the possibitlies to get out of a polymorph of a mage?

or hex from a shammy?

[agile lagoon]

Trinket

They hit you

World PvP pre emptivaly hit another mob

You interrupt or los

[shy island]

los?

what is los?

what trinket?

[bold oyster]

Line of sight

Duck behind something

[shy island]

ah okay thx

[pallid fulcrum]

duck

[mental portal]

Hi, is there any mistweaver monk that could help me ? ^^

[agile lagoon]

The pvo stun break trinket

PvP*

[quiet narwhal]

Hey guys is the new starting zone on the island better than the old ones? Compared in outcome. I got a mount and around 100 gold which seems pretty much for an starter^^

Im still testing which class i want to play so im curious if i get a mount equal fast in the old zones

[pallid fulcrum]

how to get rank 4?

[hasty spear]

100g isnt much. i dont know how comparable the new zone is to the old ones but i dont think it matters much

[pallid fulcrum]

which one should I replace

[keen pewter]

https://tenor.com/btTMX.gif

[pallid fulcrum]

Craft 15 rank 1. 15 rank 2 craft 15 rank 3 and then u can craft one rank 4

[pallid fulcrum]

Iqd is not worth it

50% of the time it will either give hp or dps

And at that low of a itlvl you should take the dreadfire

[fathom ingot]

why would it be bad that it gives dps @pallid fulcrum

isnt he a warrior dps? or does he tank

[pallid fulcrum]

if hes a warrior dps hes gonna get either a haster or mastery buff

i mean im betting that he is a dps hence why i said it

but iqd is a big sim trap

if hes low on hp its gonna heal him

if hes standing next to a mana depraved healer

it gon give him mana

[fathom ingot]

i mean he can just get the iqd weakaura imo

[pallid fulcrum]

true but u get what i mean

[fathom ingot]

yeah but iirc, grim codex isnt really that strong either

[pallid fulcrum]

rather get a 1:30 min execute constant then a iqd that will sim trap him

yeah but its debating on 190s id say that iqd scales better with level

grim codex as opossed to iqd is better

[fathom ingot]

i see your points

fair enough yeah

[pallid fulcrum]

i just wish iqd wasnt so based on surroundings

[fathom ingot]

I like the versatility of IQD honestly

[pallid fulcrum]

its a neat little thing but the fact they couldnt bother mentioning what it does but just putting ??? is just eh

[fathom ingot]

well it has like six or seven effects

[pallid fulcrum]

true

[grave sentinel]

am i able to combine sacred shards to make an eternal crystal

[fathom ingot]

execute, heal, mana regen, threat redirect, stat buff

[pallid fulcrum]

they coulda just put a wowhead link hahaha

[fathom ingot]

and theres a couple im missing

I dont think so?

[pallid fulcrum]

hmm i think u got all of them

but the mana isnt worth it

its 4k mana

thats one flash of light

[fathom ingot]

you play pally too?

[pallid fulcrum]

nah but ive raidlead a few of them so know their strength and weaknesses

[fathom ingot]

oh i forgot the cc removal effect as well

[pallid fulcrum]

oh yeah treu

true

[pale iris]

Hiii I wonder what’s the best dps build on horde? I just played the game for a half year now and only on alliance but I don’t have any clue what’s the best on horde or a good one I am on alliance a night elf hunter marksmanship

[jolly tree]

There is no major gameplay difference between the two to properly answer that question

[fathom ingot]

faction really doesnt matter except for race @pale iris

and even the subject of what race you should be is extremely nitpicky and not really any sort of significant advantage

classes dont magically become a lot better or worse because you change faction

[pale iris]

Ohhh okay I understand

[fathom ingot]

there might be a race that's more ideal to synergize with your class but that's pretty specific

also best dps overall is extremely broad and cannot be answered

[jolly tree]

Just make what feels nice to you. It will be satisfactory in the long run

[fathom ingot]

just play what you like honestly

[pale iris]

Yes thanks for everything (the question)

[kind laurel]

Soul Led Astray quest bugged can not turn it in

[prime elbow]

Is it known if you get MC'd by Mistress Dyrax for the World Quest, if you have the covenant quest for it, it doesn't get completed?

[hasty spear]

Looking through the Wowhead comments on this quest this seems to be a quite common issue. This is the only thing i could find on it. Is it up for you?

[honest harbor]

any grey iteams sold auto by add ons worth keeping?

[ocean shard]

No

[pallid fulcrum]

cringe

[grave sentinel]

when's a good time to use enchantments on gear?

[pallid fulcrum]

Hear?

[grave sentinel]

I'm currently at 205 y'all think it's too early?

[pallid fulcrum]

I mean enchantments are dirt cheap

Just buy 20 of em

[grave sentinel]

I had hella honor so I disenchanted armor and have crystals and shit so idk

[pallid fulcrum]

How much gold do u have

[grave sentinel]

I think like 140

how come

[pallid fulcrum]

Wdym 140

140k?

[grave sentinel]

yes

[pallid fulcrum]

Then u got all the money u need

Enchants are like 150gold haha

[grave sentinel]

yeah they were cheap as fuck just figured it out KEKW

to socket gems i need to complete a quest in maw ?

[spare oar]

no

the maw socket thing from venari lets you add sockets to items that dont have them

and that requires max rep

not "a quest"

[pallid fulcrum]

am guys how long till servers come back?

[spare oar]

for what?

[pallid fulcrum]

eu servers went down just asking how long till they come back :3

[spare oar]

uh

they arent down

[grave sentinel]

where do i socket them ?

[spare oar]

some of the classic realms are

[pallid fulcrum]

Just being a druid guardian will automatically pull monsters of the open world?

[spare oar]

if an item has a socket, you can socket a gem

[spare oar]

no

not unless you run into their area and they have a red name

[grave sentinel]

Two question

[spare oar]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/status/classic-eu

[grave sentinel]

1. how do i know if an item has a socket ? 2. if they dont how can i create a socket

[spare oar]

it has a socket icon

venari item

like i said

gotta be level 60

and then do dailies and weeklies in the maw

until you reach max rep

[pallid fulcrum]

but guardian is better for pulling? unlike balance

[spare oar]

in what context?

and in regards to creating sockets with the item, only certain items can even have sockets

you should focus on increasing your ilvl, not trying to add sockets to items

[grave sentinel]

thanks big bros

[pallid fulcrum]

covenant armor ilvl 197

[spare oar]

when are you trying to pull and why?

[pallid fulcrum]

skinning farm

[spare oar]

you probably just want higher dps

[kind laurel]

have not figured it out. strange and I have confirmed I have completed the campaign

[pallid fulcrum]

Any Venthyr know why I can't release Kael'Thas in Someone Worth Saving? I click on the release command with each of the gargoyles and nothing happens

nevermind, I'm an idiot, I forgot to leave the raid I was in for Valinor

was gfonna say, first guess is 'raid group?'

[twilit ore]

what does this mean?

[pallid fulcrum]

In means you can only equip one Shadowlands legendary

Guys i have a question please : i came back after many years and i wonder , with that new scaling level .. what leveling is required to solo Bastionf of twilight (my magus is capped at 35 rn)

Look at the zone the instance is located in. Generally, you wanna be 5-10 levels above that max number

oh ok

only 5 lvl can make a difference

Pretty much

this is so weard coming from Bc all the way to MOP , gives me a headache :p

Just pay attention to the new content and read the same guides as everyone else. After a certain period of time, even a returning veteran player needs to admit they're out of the loop and need to stick to the beaten path

If your mage is only 35, just stick to the intended 10-50 leveling path through the BfA content on Kul Tiras and Zandalar

alright thanks a lot for those tips 🙂

[thorn hazel]

What world boss is on rotation for BFA? I need to kill dubegorger kraulok for the llama mount

[pallid fulcrum]

im bying the latest dlc and after ive pressed buy it just loading forever. anyone knows why? should i cancel and try again?

it have been like this for 20 min

[polar wasp]

may be an issue with the servers,
or it is having trouble processing your order,because the bank isnt responding

try going back to games tab and seeing if it upgraded or not,or checking your email for purchases

[pallid fulcrum]

@pallid fulcrum sometimes that happens just go back and redo it. You wont get paid double. But as soon as u see one payment u got it

[clear geyser]

What exactly do I get/not get by purchasing Shadowlands? If I just get the sub, I get the rest of the game, but no access to the new area (that's 50+ anyway)?

[pallid fulcrum]

If you get the sub + the standard edition u can experience 50+

But if you get a sub without the standard edition you can experience up to lvl 50

But not more

[clear geyser]

So is it a reasonable decision to simply wait until I get to 50 to get Shadowlands?

Starter = up to 20, sub = up to 50, shadowlands = up to 60

[pallid fulcrum]

The starter and sub i agree with

But shadowlands is a fixed value and wont change

Id say that you can do it that way

Feel the game and experience it

And if you do enjoy it buy shadowlands

Buying shadowlands immediately vs a few days later wont change much

But if you wanna decide later on and ur not sure about shadowlands yet ofcourse

[pallid fulcrum]

Do exactly like that

[clear geyser]

Ok thank you very much. Really cleared it up. Another noob question, I started on an EU server with population New Players, is there anything realistically that screws me with? I don't yet understand any of the cross-server features or what's still server-bound

[pallid fulcrum]

Okay so "new players" idk why they put it there

Whats the realm called?

And are you horde or alliance

[clear geyser]

I am horde, and it's called Doomhammer (EU)

[pallid fulcrum]

Ahh see i was fooled into the same trap you were

Im alliance but still serves the point

It shows turalyon and doomhammer

As new player which is just half dead servers

Id say if you are horde go for the more populated server

Kazzak/tarren mill/twisting nether/draenor

[pallid fulcrum]

Thanks

This gives you:
More people to play with on the same server and thus more guilds to join
Auction house prices on certain things are lower
Plus a few more i just forgot xD

[clear geyser]

Ah ok, so better to just join the ones that everyone congregates on? Felt like I was reading some articles saying that a lot of things are cross-server now but I wasn't sure. Sounds like not enough to make playing on an empty server justified

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah most are crossrealm but the reason why two servers get connected is due to not enough people playing on them. Draenor and kazzak and twisting nether are standalones is because they have enough people

Rather have choices

Then be on doomhammer and think to yourself

Found a really good guild on kazzak now i have to pay like 20 euros to transfer to that realm

Ofcourse u can play with any person any realm

You cant trade gold with other realms

[clear geyser]

What do you mean by this?

[pallid fulcrum]

So lets say u wanted to do a dungeon

It doesnt matter what server someone is

The limitations of servers is only to preserve the servers economy

And to insure a stable background

Things that dont involve many people

Such as dungeons (5 peeps) u can do it with anyone

And at the end of the dungeon

Whatever u get inside you can trade it has a 2 hour timer

But thats just soulbound items in general

Are you fammiliar with raids?

Ik im throwing a lot at you haha

You can dm me and just go step by step

So whenever you get stuck or/wanna know something just dm me

[dusk stirrup]

Hello,everyone!

[stark bloom]

hello, anyone can play it together with me?

[dusk stirrup]

Anybody, willing to help the novice?

[pallid fulcrum]

Ill try and help out in any information i can @dusk stirrup

[dusk stirrup]

Thanks you

How long have you been playing?

[loud spire]

I'd be up to helping too! :)

[woeful shore]

Coming from havoc DH, which Druid spec should I play?

In your opinion of course :)

[dusk stirrup]

Oh，Thanks you too

[pallid fulcrum]

Been playing for a year and a half

[dusk stirrup]

Oh，very nice

[pallid fulcrum]

Hmm since havoc dh is a particularly aggresive melee. Id say try to spice things up and go balance druid

[woeful shore]

Cool, thanks!

Which is the spec that everyone says is OP?

[loud spire]

I always play feral it's my favorite lol

[woeful shore]

Balance right?

[pallid fulcrum]

Yup

You can see on #latest-news the april 13 rundown

[loud spire]

@dusk stirrup How long have you been playing? :o

[pallid fulcrum]

Of the dps ofcourse within the raid

But worth looking at

[dusk stirrup]

a month😆

[loud spire]

Haha glad you're liking it though! I've been playing since I was around 7 and I'm almost 16 😂

[dusk stirrup]

Haha

[pallid fulcrum]

And how have you been enjoying it so far. What have you been playing tell me everythinnng

[loud spire]

Yes I want to know too

It always makes me happy when I see new people playing WoW idk why but it makes me smile knowing the game still charms it's way into people's lives still to this day lol

[pallid fulcrum]

I mean the game a marvel

[loud spire]

True

[pallid fulcrum]

I started playing in late 8.2.5

In 8.3 got my first CE and it was pretty cool

[dusk stirrup]

Warcraft: Orcs & Humans

[pallid fulcrum]

Like when all 20 players beat as one organism to kill a boss

[dusk stirrup]

And you？

[loud spire]

Wait Shiley you've only played Orcs and Humans?

[dusk stirrup]

Yes，

It's so cool

[loud spire]

What classes have you played?

[dusk stirrup]

I don't quite understand. What are you talking about

😢

[cobalt flint]

You've only played Warcraft 1? Wow, you might find that a lot has changed in the history of Azeroth since then.

[loud spire]

Yeah like a lot a lot I didn't even realize they were talking about the first one

[cobalt flint]

"Warcraft: Orcs and Humans" is the title of the very first Warcraft game.

[loud spire]

I thought that's the races they've played lol it's 4am my brain is dead

[astral cape]

Hey, I am a player from legion that wanted to go back to the game. If I buy shadowlands do I just start from shadowlands (boost) or will I need to lvl up normally before?
I though of playing a disco priest (I played frost DK whole legion), how is it for worldquesting (will I need to switch to shadow?)?
Is it even worth for any "okay" experience (i was hardcore raiding/dungeoning before) for somebody who play 2h/day at max?

for sure I wont commit to nonlfr raids

[clear geyser]

@pallid fulcrum I'm familiar with the concept of raids. I think I understand what you're saying. Group instances are cross-server. Are raiding parties considered as such? Or they're not cross-server? What's limited to your server seems to then be auction house + open world roaming, is that correct?

[loud spire]

The character boost will throw you into the shadowlands story

[dusk stirrup]

Nonono

[pallid fulcrum]

Normal and heroic are cross server but mythic raids are limited to the server until a while then it becomes crossrealm but it takes a while

The rest is correct

[dusk stirrup]

I play three.

[cobalt flint]

@dusk stirrup Long story short: Orcs now are good guys, too. Humans got new allies and are now the Alliance. Orcs got new allies and are now the Horde. Canonically, in Warcraft 1 Medivh is killed (sorta), but the Orcs conquer Strormwind anyway. Horde and Alliance are sometimes at peace and sometimes at war, but together they face various big threats to Azeroth.

[dusk stirrup]

speak falsely

[astral cape]

So generally like any other expansion

[loud spire]

Mhm

[cobalt flint]

So you played Warcraft 1, 2 and 3? That's a decent base, especially the third one. @dusk stirrup

[loud spire]

It'll teach you the basics of your class first then throw you in @astral cape

[astral cape]

Still wonder about my timeplay sadly

[loud spire]

Idk anything about priests though so I can't really say anything on that sadly

[astral cape]

I mean I had a hard time doing WQs as blood dk before

thats why I wonder

[loud spire]

I mean you could always try the different types out and see what works best for your playstyle in shadowlands

[dusk stirrup]

Yes，I do

[loud spire]

I just got the expansion a few days ago 😂

[dusk stirrup]

I'm a Singaporean,

I usually speculate in US stocks

Because of the time difference, I will play games for a while

[pallid fulcrum]

i started with warlock now im level 22 in 3 days is that good

For a new player yeah

[dusk stirrup]

Then wait for the US stock market to open

Well, that's it

[loud spire]

As a new player yes! For me I can get to 20 in about a day if I play the entire day

[cobalt flint]

Generally, when you are out alone doing open world content, you want to use a DPS spec. Tanks are good when the enemy is too difficult to beat or in instances.

[astral cape]

So I will need 2 sets of gear anytime?

[winged prawn]

Do pets attack enemies? Sorry I'm new 🤣

[loud spire]

Hunter pets do

Battle pets only fight other battle pets in pet battles but the beasts you tame accompany you and fight for you

[pallid fulcrum]

Depends on which setting

[winged prawn]

So I got this pet for setting up authenticator it has hp and abilities?

[pallid fulcrum]

Yup

[winged prawn]

But ots only for pet battles?

[pallid fulcrum]

It can be assist
Defensive
Passive

Nono its for everything

U mean like a hunter pet

Or like legit a pet?

[cobalt flint]

Only if you want to minmax. If you want to be primarily a blood DK and only sometimes switch to DPS, you can just use the same equipment as you do when you are tanking.

[winged prawn]

How do I make it attack? Cause it only seems to follow me

[astral cape]

So for that I just roll for DIscipline gear and whenever I want to do WQs solo I just switch to Shadow and dont worry bout gear

[dusk stirrup]

Do you speculate in US stocks?

[loud spire]

@winged prawn Your hunter pet has commands there's a pet bar something might be toggled there making it stay passive

[cobalt flint]

It should be good enough

[winged prawn]

Hmmm.. ok I csnt seem to find it cause when it's summoned I don't get an extra bar saying it's health etc. I've tried to.google it but I can't seem to get it to work lol

[loud spire]

Can you send me a screenshot of what your screen looks like?

either dm or in #screenshots

[winged prawn]

Ok, I will later on. I'm.about to head to bed it's 4am here 😅

[loud spire]

It's 4am here too haha but goodnight!

[winged prawn]

Ok, and thx for trying to help. But I will dm later on.

[loud spire]

Anytime :)

[stark bloom]

I bought a Tesla, what did you buy

[dusk stirrup]

bilibili

[stark bloom]

I also bought this stock, but not much

[dusk stirrup]

Oh, Tesla, very stable

[dusk stirrup]

Haha

[sleek rapids]

American stock?

[dusk stirrup]

Yes

[stark bloom]

Tesla recently had an accident, thinking that Tesla's stock was going to fall, but it turned out to be okay

[tight elbow]

#no-wow-discussion