wow-help

[grizzled hinge]

but srsly need to be a damn gooood mouse

[crimson pike]

Dancepad for WASD keys sounds pretty damn cool, actually 😄

[hasty spear]

i dont like the button layout of mmo mouses. i cant use all of the buttons reliably with only my thumb

[icy kettle]

Who should I try first dk ,demon hunter or hunter

[hasty spear]

i have a steelseries rival 500 and THAT works great but its not in production anymore

[grizzled hinge]

:/

g600 seems so well liked, but kinda old now

I need top ergonomics

[hollow iris]

I used to play with a shattered wrist back in 2014 and even handle LFR raiding not too badly

have a look at something with a thumbstick for moving ( I'd suggest strafe/yaw with it and actual forward with right click unless tanking ) and then a multi key keypad for keybinds

probably looking at a Tartarus or similar

I have absolutely no idea what you mean 😄

[grizzled hinge]

ty for answr! Just wondering if you mean I should skip the mouse and use other tool instead? Tartarus seems not to do it all itself (I cant move my left arm or fingers anything at all)

Or are there mouses with thumbsticks?

What worked for you mate?

maybe my brain is broken too ¨^¨^

[wraith sleet]

How u don't see it at maps...?
Very weird...

U tried to press m or saw it every time u logged in?

Is it at retail wow or classic?

[icy kettle]

Umm wandering what class to make

Dk,dh, hunter

[hollow iris]

tartarus is a keypad with a thumbstick unless I've looked at it wrong

and aye, mine was right arm basically useless below the elbow for a while so relied on left hand use of keypad with thumbstick ( as said tilt on up/down and strafe on l/r and then right click for attack/movement so no "back up! back up!" )

can't remember what exactly I used ( handed it on once my wrist healed from the pins to a local kids charity ), but something like a Tartarus should work if you're not looking to go "FULL THRUST!" in raiding etc

https://justgestures.com/best-gaming-keypads-with-analog-stick/

I mean there is also such a thing as an Ergo joystick mouse but they tend to suffer from a lack of buttons ( think the best I've seen was about 11 PMBs )

[pallid fulcrum]

Inside my head, there's a little place left for youuuuu
What do you knowwwww
What do you knowwwww
And all I want is to find out what you're going thruuuuu
What do I knowwwww
Maybe the silence is dangerous

I wanted to hide
Now I just want to find you
Feel what's inside you
I wanna come over
And see what you found
See if you're hurting
After tearing me down
It's the rain of denial

[hollow iris]

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

[grizzled hinge]

Ahhhhh… now I understand. Ofcourse!
So basically the choice would be to choose between:
Tartarus: Thumb to stick to viewing around; and fingers = WASD, abilities etc
MMO mouse(like g600) Tumb for sidebuttons = WASD + abilities; and general hand movements to look around as usual with mouse

Hmm… what to choose..?
Tartarus could be good but kinda wildcard to me
still kinda set for a mouse prob but not sure which model

[hollow iris]

I never used a mouse while the wrist was gubbed, I went for Keypad which is basically you either use the thumb to tilt and strafe and then keys for everything else or else thumb for mouse pointer and keypad for WASD and the rest

main issue you'll find with any of them even with modifier combos is lack of keybinds eventually if you play bind heavy

[keen pewter]

I play regularly 15+ and heroic raids using a two extra button mouse and creative keybinds. Used to have a steelseries wow gaming MMO mouse but I make do w/o it, wouldn't say its a necessity to have

[hollow iris]

aye, my injury was 8 years ago... it's probably changed since then 😄

[grizzled hinge]

ah . But do you mean playing that with only one of your arms?

[keen pewter]

Oh, no absolutely can't do

[grizzled hinge]

like currently, if I have a mouse in my right hand, that is all I have

[keen pewter]

I see the context now, sorry to hear you broke your arm!

You might have to be a gasp clicker for a while

[hasty spear]

like i said add a dancepad

[grizzled hinge]

yeah its not fun¨^

[hasty spear]

and i mean it seriously

[grizzled hinge]

like 3drudder?

feet

[hasty spear]

i watch a streamer who currently cant use their left hand so they have to play shit like counterstrike with a god damn dancepad

damn you never saw a dancepad?

[grizzled hinge]

ahhh. i see know

n connect to pc....'

[hasty spear]

like this. a bunch of activators on a mat. configure them the way you need them and you got 10 "keys" to your feet

[grizzled hinge]

interesting xd will check

[keen pewter]

yeah you could bind that to movement and would already be quite the work

[umbral saddle]

don't forget velcro tho, dang mats. although if you're not jumping around it prolly doesn't slide as much lol

[keen pewter]

Or, in all honesty, just take it easy for a couple months brother

[grizzled hinge]

hopefully arm gets kinda ok 2023 so dunno about having a big dancepad

torn between tartarus and g600ish or alike

all u fellas btw, super ty for input 🙂

[umbral saddle]

i will say i got an mmo mouse and it's a learning curve for sure. i still only use about half of the button because its difficult to keep track of which button my finger is on, but also my friend has a tartarus that he uses for mmo's and specifically healing, but he's never healed us past a 10 but that's mostly a him issue lol

[grizzled hinge]

but in addition to the tartarus he use a mouse right? or does he navigate with the stick?(cause thats what i will need to do)

[umbral saddle]

from my understanding he uses the arrow keys and the tartarus

[grizzled hinge]

i see

[umbral saddle]

which i promptly make fun of him for being a keyboard turner.

[grizzled hinge]

gg for me. tartarus seems to only be for left hand xd...

[umbral saddle]

i think there are ones that are interchangeable but don't quote me on that

[icy kettle]

Hi might sound like a stupid question but how do I add more keybinds (spaces to put my skills on)

[keen pewter]

If you mean to get more action bars...

Interface->actionbars

[hollow iris]

ok, weird one

anyone hit an issue where at level 50/51 hunter pets just aren't keeping aggro as Beast Master? it's Core Hound and was literally fine till about an hour ago and suddenly I seem to be spiking way above it for threat

[icy kettle]

I mean to have up to my current action bar more places to put my skills I know I have it on my fire mage but don't recall how

[umbral saddle]

go into interface then action bars you can turn on another row above what you have now and two more on the right side of your screen

[keen pewter]

Yeah go to interface, action bars

[umbral saddle]

but seeing you're on a DH that's all the space youll need XD

[keen pewter]

Ouch. But also not wrong....

I couldn't bring myself to finish leveling vengeance by traditional means, it was legit hurting my soul to have so much Downtime

[umbral saddle]

never played vengeance

but i did enjoy leveling my DHs

[hollow iris]

meanwhile over in clicker country

[umbral saddle]

do you have growl turned on?

oop nvm lol

[hollow iris]

yes... I'm rusty, not dumb 😄

[covert charm]

what do you do with polished pet charms?

[hollow iris]

it's more just at level 51 it seems to be spiking me about 10k over pet threat

[icy kettle]

Ok.got it thx

[frank valve]

Newbie asking what's the benefit of being in a guild?

[hasty spear]

a fixed group of people to play with. you can utilize stuff like the guild bank, guild bonus effects and you get a cool little guild name tag

[agile whale]

How fix quest dosent show on map

[short thicket]

its already the 3rd day, how is it still so popular??

[frank valve]

Newbie asking what is the Calling questline it's a apart of the campaign?

[peak geyser]

A lot of people consider Wotlk the peak so I'd imagine it'll only get worse

[peak geyser]

they basically give you reputation, items and renown

and gold

[hollow iris]

@hasty spear to be fair the Phoenix mount is about the only thing I worried about 😄

welp... even with them being old content it's now day 3 of trying to get Skoll or Arcturis

[wary horizon]

hi I need help, I have been an hour waiting with 1% Battle.net installing

😭

[obsidian flame]

does getting to 80 renown on a certain server and faction will allow me to change covenant with a char on another server and opposite faction?

[tough hound]

Is obsidian worldbreaker ever on the black market auction house?

[peak geyser]

should be

It's rare though so I'd expect it to be a few million gold when it pops up

[umbral saddle]

probably 10 to be exact

[peak geyser]

you think people would gold cap it? Maybe tbh...

[dusty hound]

how does on get to teldrassel i cant find to boat from stormwind

[hasty spear]

i guess you're playing retail?

[pallid fulcrum]

hallo^^ do u know if Retail runs on an Intel Celeron 1000M without GPU, 6Gb RAM DDR3 without gpu?

[hollow iris]

doubtful these days

[hasty spear]

run... maybe but it will be more like slowly walking if at all

wow even struggles with current top hardware so i wont expect anything good out of it

[hollow iris]

I was pushing it running it on a better Celeron and a HD300 iGPU and 8GB back in Mists on one of my laptops, never mind a 1000M and 6GB

windows wants 4GB before it even wants to play anything half the time

[strong vault]

hi all, just recently returned to the game since 2018, what curse addons are must haves? i truly can't remember the essential ones (for progression raiding also)

[keen pewter]

No must have but dbm is helpful

[strong vault]

gotcha, ty

[vale hawk]

TheUndermineJournal is always useful for knowing when it's best not to vendor something

[hasty spear]

DBM, a DamageMeter of your choice (probably Details) and you should be good to go

[strong vault]

ah ok great, much appreciated! just got those ones!

[vale hawk]

Oh, and something like TomTom for coordinates

[strong vault]

ah yes, i remember that one

ty ty

[hasty spear]

Oh and WeakAuras since you probably at some point will join a Raid where they use specific WeakAuras for Coordination

[vale hawk]

Although you can likely wait on weakauras until you know you need/want to use specific ones

No need to bloat your addon list with things you don't know if you'll be using

[hasty spear]

also true but weakauras is a nice allrounder addon. no matter what you want to change/improve/need help with there is probably a weakaura for it

[strong vault]

ah that's true. i added about 5-7 addons and my load times got immediately delayed lmao

[hasty spear]

installed on an ssd it shouldnt be affected much but man back then in Legion when i still had it on an HDD it was tough. Huge load times it was disgusting. my number one reason for starting to use SSDs

[hollow iris]

people don't recommend GTFO any more?

shakes head

[hasty spear]

its basically integrated in DBM

but i also use it seperately

[hollow iris]

oh... that's new from when I stopped playing then

the amount of times we'd grab a couple of randos and at least one would die and we'd find out later no DBM and no GTFO was unreal

right... sleep time for me

[vale hawk]

True, but as a general rule of thumb you won't know what weakauras you want to be using until you're familiar with how the base systems perform

[undone loom]

Ungodly amount of ads

I've already been showered with 5 or 6 on Youtube

[blissful bay]

hello

my druid keeps trying to fly downwards when i'm flying straight.

any ideas?

[night kelp]

i just started playing whats a good starter class and race. idk any of this

[vale hawk]

All race, class, and spec combinations are viable for all forms of content--although death knights and demon hunters are unable to start in the Exile's Reach starting tutorial zone so you'll miss out on a proper starting experience and might not know where to go next

[icy kettle]

Until when I'm stuck in the demon hunter Starting zone and starting questline I want to start Leveling with chromie or dungeon runs

[cosmic spear]

is Sanctum harder than CN? Because I clear HC CN last week but cannot get a group for Sanctum

[agile island]

i didn't play a lot but just came back and am really confused on what i should do next, im at a giant portal and currently lvl 30 but idk what missions to do to progress the story or what stories should i even do first

completely forgot what i was doing lol

was playing a pandaren monk for the horde

[pallid fulcrum]

what is my battle.net account name

Im trying to sign into wotlk

oh its just my email

[hollow iris]

anyone use Move Anything and know how to lock the frames again once you're done moving them?

[oak mist]

Is there a "guide" to know which mythic keys I should or should not request to join at a certain ilvl?

[azure reef]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/season-4-shadowlands-mythic-plus-updates-item-levels
You generally want to be within 10ilv of the key rewards of the level your doing, tho if you know what you’re doing or have a good group you can definitely get away with being much lower

Tho 16+ gets iffy since dungeons begin to scale a lot faster and don’t give higher level gear tho they reward more

[keen pewter]

rating*

[azure reef]

I wasn’t talking about rating but sure

Higher keys reward more gear, just not higher ilv past 288

[keen pewter]

16+ gives the same reward a 15 does though

[azure reef]

Higher keys can reward up to 4 items, I meant 16+ as the area dungeons begin to scale higher, and then start rewarding more loot

[frank valve]

How do i keep up with this quest? what is the easier method to fill it?

[keen pewter]

Kill rares, do world quests in korthia

[frank valve]

[keen pewter]

Also, for what is worth, the quest description literally says

Thwart the Jailer's efforts throughout Korthia and the Maw by completing Covenant Assaults, Daily Quests, looting treasures, slaying rare creatures, and defeating Tormentors of Torghast.

[frank valve]

yea just searching the easier ways i might do world quest thanks

[hollow iris]

on a scale of 1 to Nightborne unlock from scratch with no BFA/Legion done how bad is the Dark Hunter Tmog unlock?

[frank valve]

i want this mog too cool af

[frank valve]

may someone know what is all about? i died cause i jumped from the bridge and randomally kicked out and when i'm logging in i see my character dead and kicked out again

[hollow iris]

server dropped connection, happens every so often

[frank valve]

this what i see when i log in and after 1 second i kicked out from thegame

[hasty spear]

use the unstuck self service option

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/32275

[frank valve]

what that's nice auto move to the nearest GY

[hollow iris]

@hasty spear is /unstuck no longer a thing?

[hasty spear]

how would you input that command without being able to login correctly?

but besides that: never head of that command.

[hollow iris]

I'm sure that used to be a thing from back in the early days when map fails were common and there was no rigging floor under half the game 😄

but aye, missed the bit about log > kick

then again this was also the days you could glitch up to the Ogrimmar battlements by wall clipping pre flight days

[frank valve]

What key i need to open it?

[keen pewter]

What key does it say you need?

[frank valve]

oh i just see it right now in the right bottom corner

can i buy it in AH?

[keen pewter]

IDK can you? Is it bind on pick up?

[frank valve]

idk if its bound anyway where can i farm it?

[keen pewter]

wowhead.com, i'm sure will have comments that answer that

This isn't google, wowhead.com is

[frank valve]

man you basically can say "wowhead.com" to any of the ppl who gonna ask here

no one force you to help tho

[keen pewter]

Yeah. If you get into the habit to search something that has already been answered then I don't have to go to the website, search it and copypaste the comments to you

And not just you

The saying about the man, the fish and the fishing works 😉

[frank valve]

that's why this discord stands for to help casually to players instead of sending them to google/wowhead

[hasty spear]

this channel is for helping others but im pretty sure you dont need help with looking at the page of an item and determining where to get it from. do you?
Stuff like unstucking, getting lost, having no idea how to join a group or whatever these are newbie questions that you can get help with here but SOME things are just THAT easy to look up yourself

[frank valve]

ofc but itsnt like its something not allowed to do.. i just like the way of asking and interacting with others while playing no one force you to help tho

[hasty spear]

so instead of looking it up yourself you want other to look at the page, go to the "Reward from" or "Sold by" section and just tell you which Place to get it from?
Just look here: https://www.wowhead.com/item=187612/key-of-flowing-waters#reward-from-q

You can get it from the Quest "The Netherstar" or buy it off of the Archivist.

[frank valve]

no bad feelings no one force you to search for me or any kind of stuff like that.. just a newbie that like interacting with other asking casual question that might some ppl already know and are willing to help

thanks tho have a good day/night

[short thicket]

can you trade globably in classic or do you have to be close?

[hasty spear]

you cant trade globally in any version

so yes you have to be close to one another

[short thicket]

Where do i level now? im so confused on where to go

im level 12

[white mural]

Go back to Orgrimmar and look for a Warchief's Command board

It should lead you to going to Zandalar.

[fervent bone]

is this classic?

[short thicket]

yes

[keen pewter]

Go to barrens

[pallid fulcrum]

Is area 52 or Illidan better

[hollow iris]

retail channel is dead... anyone know if the old WOD Baleful tokens are worth keepign or just spam them out for mogs and then disenchant for mats?

[nova crescent]

what should my ilvl be to be accepted in LF Raid groups?

[keen pewter]

It's automated, 240 to queue in

[strong vault]

hi again, was DBM the addon that yelled "destruction" and other things during raids? it would flash in big letters saying move left or right and stuff like that, sorry my memory is terrible

[hasty spear]

DBM is the addon that tells you to move out of stuff, move into stuff, dodge stuff and whatever. it would play fitting audio strips from the game to that sometimes

[keen pewter]

Most likely yes

[strong vault]

ah ok, thank you both! much appreciated!!

[hollow iris]

DBM/BigWigs would shout things, GTFO just went BWOMP BWOMP BWOMP

[plucky minnow]

how much time needed to complete Zerith Mortis approx?

[tender siren]

A bit of a dumb question, but I bought the TBC boost on accident instead of the retail boost, I requested a refund but I have no clue if they actually do refunds, anyone have a clue?

[frank valve]

Newbie asking what is the name of this?

those too

[stark steppe]

Hello I received an email saying I hava access to dragonflight beta but on my launcher I don't see the game

have I got baited?

[peak geyser]

Maybe? Sometimes the launcher takes a while to refresh, people say password change helps with that cause it boots you out so you could try that

[stark steppe]

ok I'll try ty

[minor mirage]

5 strength or 5 agility, 1 stamina, 24 spirit, 10 frost resistance and 118 armor?

[azure reef]

This looks like a toy buff, could be a coin of many faces but can’t really know since the icon is used a bunch, the other 2 are intellect and power word fortitude which are mage and priest group buffs

[rich hill]

Hello i just got to level 8 what should i do?/where should i go?(i am a human mage)

[fervent bone]

What game version are you playing?

Classic or retail

[rich hill]

Classic

[rich hill]

i play Classic

[untold canyon]

Guys
i really need help
this happens quite a lot in pvp
and it's very random, like i will be pressing my buttons
next thing I know everything is inverted
I will be pressing W to walk forwards and it stays still or walk backwards
and i like need to let go of everything and move my mouse around for it be fixed
am i pressing something?

[vale hawk]

2-hander

Weapon + shield for protection, dual-wielding two-handed weapons for fury

[brave light]

good evening all, i have a question sorry if this is not the right channel for it i assumed this was the right one for it. i have been wanting to come back to wow im a relative newb to the game still but i played allot during end of BFA and start of shadowlands mainly ending up playing for the pvp side of the game wich i enjoyed thoroughly. but im considering starting again on classic since ive only played wow retail. ive read and heard allot that classic pvp is much slower in a sence i dont mind since im used to playing LOL where you only have 4 buttons and have to wait for CD. but what is in your opinion the best place to play for PVP? the things i kinda want to avoid is the demanded end game pve grind for pvp gear and legendaries but if that cannot be avoided in either versions i dont mind. Thanks for the ones that reply on this question and im looking forward to hearing your opinions on what version of the game to play focussing on pvp and less mandatory play.
With Kind regards,
Donsmeister

[vale hawk]

Might get more specific Classic information in #classic-wow

[brave light]

Its directed to both retail players and classic

[brave light]

But i can repost if u wish

[pallid fulcrum]

can anyone help me get a sub?

[vale hawk]

They're available in the Blizzard shop (from the launcher or shop.battle.net) under WoW in the Subscriptions category

[pallid fulcrum]

ahh

thank you, now can you buy it for me XD

[keen pewter]

-_-

[pallid fulcrum]

XD

[vale hawk]

No, that's not allowed in this server either

[peak geyser]

where did you think that was going lol

[keen pewter]

I know where it was going on but I had hoped Gumball's reply hint hint nudge nudge'd them to a different train of thought

[vale hawk]

(they asked the same question somewhere else too--looks like they left here as well)

[peak geyser]

not surprised, sadly

[summer escarp]

Hello all I just joined I’ve never played wow before and wanted to see if this discord could be of any service! How’s the game Horde or alliance? What’s the best character for beginners?

[keen pewter]

Kinda anything works, though for begginers wouldn't say Demon Hunter or Death Knight

[hollow iris]

best newbie characters?

imo Lock or Hunter due to tank pet, but as Inter said anything but DK or DH

as for horde vs alliance, depends what you like in the way of flavour. not even sure if the racials matter that much for PvP any more

[vale hawk]

All race, class, and spec combinations are viable for all forms of content and the best one is going to be the one you're better at playing, and they all have a relatively low skill floor and are able to be learned while leveling. Death knights and demon hunters aren't recommended due to them not having access to a proper starting tutorial experience, and new/inexperienced players can easily get lost navigating to relevant content for leveling

[summer escarp]

Okay thanks is there a server that most of you play on together ?

[keen pewter]

If it says high, it's most likely fine

[summer escarp]

I’m looking for people that I would be able to play with in a few months once I get to that level

[frank valve]

newbie asking how is the pvp in the upcomming wotlk it's suppose to be more friendly for beginners than dragonflight?

[vale hawk]

Then yeah, a high/full pop server will be best. I'd also recommend an RP server if you want to see the most people ingame, as the maps don't get sharded when reaching certain population limits, but there aren't many bad choices. Regardless of server you can still play content like dungeons, instances, and pvp with players across your entire region--although it will affect your choice and options for joining guilds and for the auction house

[summer escarp]

Okay thanks

[pale iris]

cant enter general chat or even whisper to people

anyone know anything about this

[hasty spear]

starter edition?

[vale hawk]

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/3226

That, or you were muted

[pale iris]

thanks

[rancid moth]

I just hit level 60 and i haven't completed the shadowlands story yet (I'm at 3/7 in the revendreth story) but I can't use chromie and i wanted to time change to do molten core. Do I have to complete the storyline cause j was told hitting level 60 was all you had to do to unlock chromie again .

[hasty spear]

you cant use chromie above level 50

chromie is for leveling purposes only

you would now just enter molten core through the usual entrance and rush through it

[rancid moth]

That is the stupidest

[hasty spear]

no

[pale iris]

how do u get unmuted becuase im level 59 so im not a beginner

[rancid moth]

Yes

[hasty spear]

no you dont understand chromie time if you think its stupid

you dont have to be scaled to enter anything

chromie time only scales content

[rancid moth]

Ok

Well then could I solo molten core or at the least can I use prowl and run past everything

Till ragnoros

[hasty spear]

molten core is so old you could have probably solod it at level 30 or something

[keen pewter]

Isn't MC lvl35 now?

[hollow iris]

you wait for the GMs to catch up with the review if you have an appeal ticket in if it's a mute

[keen pewter]

due the "squish"?

[hollow iris]

something like that, it was able to be soloed back in Mists never mind now

[rancid moth]

Oh

That makes eye sulfuras seem easier

A lot

[hasty spear]

from what i heard its still hard

but that gives you an idea of how hard it was back in the day to get that shit

[pale iris]

okay

[rancid moth]

The wowhead site said its like 6.47% drop

[keen pewter]

yeah it was extremely hard to clear a weekly thing for a rng drop on a raid that almost had mechanics

[rancid moth]

Yea

[hasty spear]

not hard to do but hard to get

[rancid moth]

Is there a week cooldown on it still

[keen pewter]

yes

[rancid moth]

Damnit

What if you fail or quit is there still a cooldown

[hasty spear]

loot lockout is loot lockout

[rancid moth]

Whats loot lockout

[hasty spear]

if you "fail" so dont kill the boss then you wont get loot so whats the point?

[rancid moth]

Eh

[hasty spear]

loot lockout means once you looted a boss you cant loot it again until the lockout is gone

[rancid moth]

Oh

So you can do the raid but you can't get anything

Does it damage scale In molten core?

[hasty spear]

what do you mean?

[rancid moth]

If I'm doing a quest meant for level 45 at level 45 it does normal damage but if I do it at 60 it burns through the enemy's

Does it scale there health up to make it harder I guess

[vale hawk]

When you're 11 levels above content Legacy rules apply and you start damaging things incredibly

[rancid moth]

Ah

[keen pewter]

Oh

[rancid moth]

By the time I realized you responded I'd already found out I insta kill everything tho

My bad

[rancid moth]

What difficulty does the eye drop on or is it any difficulty

[umbral saddle]

eye of sulfuras?

there's only one difficulty for MC

[hollow iris]

well, two

pretty hard back in the days, and solo meh these days

[umbral saddle]

i mean, the difficulty didn't change we just over power it now.

[rancid moth]

Really normals it? I completed it and now the adventure guide says heroic

[spare oar]

i think it gained a 2nd difficulty level when they did the anniversary event

[rancid moth]

And it doesn't now nevermind I guess I'm insane

[umbral saddle]

wasn't it only on during that event tho. it's not like you can trigger it now

[rancid moth]

My bad

So there's only normal meaning it drops on normal. Question answered

[spare oar]

yeah but i wouldnt be surprised if it sometimes shows in the journal sometimes if a trigger is coded wrong

[lost pond]

if i get plate drops on my shaman does it unlock the transmog for my warrior?

[fallow breach]

Nope

You have to be able to properly wear the item to get it. You also can't get the transmog for non main armor types. Leather on shaman in example

[vale hawk]

So, simply put, if you're a shaman you can only unlock mail transmog because your armor type is mail

[tropic minnow]

How many hours 1-70? Debating buying a boost if the hours are a bit much.

[spare oar]

15-20 depending on if you have played wow before

if you can choose an expac and have warlords flying, WAY faster

[tropic minnow]

I meant Wotlk

Sorry

[spare oar]

oh lol

a shit ton

[tropic minnow]

Sheit no wonder people are just buying the boost

[spare oar]

i mean

sorta defeats the point

if you want to get into wrath easily, just make a DK

you start at 55

you just do TBC and then do wrath

[vale hawk]

The time spent during leveling is one of the entire points of the Classic experience, tbh

[tropic minnow]

I thought you needed a 60 character to make a DK

[spare oar]

nope

not as long as you arent on a fresh server

[tropic minnow]

I’ve already done that and I didn’t enjoy it lol. Leveling isn’t even in my memory, but ICC 25 is

[spare oar]

wrath classic changes the DK requirement

as long as you arent on a fresh start server, you can make a DK

they start at 55, end their starter experience at 58

[tropic minnow]

I think it’s a bit silly saying leveling up is one of the entire points when all the fond memories is raiding

[tropic minnow]

That sounds good, I wanted a warrior but DK is good enough

[spare oar]

so you only have to do TBC then

[rancid moth]

What trainer do I go to to train in blacksmithing not shadowlands blacksmithing not cataclysm balcksmithing just the 1-300 blacksmithing you get by default

[onyx halo]

Just any capital city and ask a guard for directions to the trainer

Vanilla capital city that is ofcourse

[short thicket]

boys i got the flamescythe, and i was wondering how i can turn into a firecat while im levelling my alt?

do i need to transmog the weapon or is it just there

[azure reef]

If you unlocked the transmog then you can use the flame cat appearance at the barber

So the scythe needs to have dropped on a character that can use/collect polearm mogs

[vagrant ermine]

is it even worth it to deal with the mission table if you returned after almost 2 years?

the whole Anima shenanigans seems pointless

[azure reef]

You don’t really need anima besides for collecting mounts/achieves/mogs etc and a few QoL stuff like portals

[vagrant ermine]

apart from that: Is there even any benefit from the boring mission table?

[azure reef]

It can give some extra gold but that’s it

[vagrant ermine]

meh, but thank you ❤️

Do you get Enlightened Rep from all the Zereth Mortis Quests. Like even the generic ones in Haven?

[azure reef]

Not all of them iirc

Ik atleast all the main quests in the zone give rep

[vagrant ermine]

i went to buy 2 Armaments from Hadja/Haven for Anima as Prot and got a 2handed axe twice? Am i doing something wrong? 😄

[vagrant ermine]

she actually only sells me Ret items, while i'm Prot. Same if i try Holy.

[hasty spear]

did you filter the vendor for ret spec maybe? there should be a dropdown menu at the top

[vagrant ermine]

figured it out. It depends on your loot Spec

[azure reef]

Once you’ve unlocked korthia it will be available

[hollow iris]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/zereth-mortis-activities-how-to-unlock#unlocking-zereth-mortis

¯_(ツ)_/¯

have you tried /reload for stuff like that?

[hollow iris]

we got any macro wizards handy?

trying to work out whay a Misdirection macro throws a lua error in dungeon/raid areas when used on pet but not at any other time

[peak crane]

Are these sets from the opposite faction faction locked ? How do I get these kultiras sets like this one for example on my Tauren characters ? I have noticed that when I created a alliance character and looked at collection that some were unlocked ( I unlocked zandalari plate armors from quests ) . So do I need to actually unlock them on alliance characters and are they even usable for horde ones ?

[peak geyser]

there's faction only sets like that, you just can't use them on the opposite faction

[peak crane]

Well that is unfortunate , I prefer a lot more these alliance sets from bfa than horde ones and I really like Taurens

Thanks for answering nonetheless

[vale hawk]

You can get both. Some of them only have faction variants, but they can also drop as that set (for example the one pictured from BFA dungeons coming from Kul Tiras dungeons). If the set wasn't available, it wouldn't appear in your Collections window on that character. Note how you can't look at Alliance pvp sets on that character

[vale hawk]

There are, but like I said that set can be obtained on Horde--otherwise it wouldn't appear in their Collection window

[peak crane]

Well that makes a lot more sense , so I could just make a alliance character and do the content and the sets that I get will be unlocked for both alliance and horde characters correct ?

[vale hawk]

Eh, not quite. It will be easier to unlock the set you want using a Horde character

Because there are three variants:

• Kul Tiras sets
• Zandalar sets
• Faction-dependent sets
  You won't know if it's a Kul Tiras set specifically if you're Alliance, because it could also be a faction-dependent set

If that makes sense

[peak crane]

Alright thanks for simplifying it

[small lava]

heya whats the bar that shows you what things you use??

[keen dove]

Now sure where i should ask this but i have a really good online guide if any new players or others wanted to see?

[hasty spear]

1. This is no Question
2. This is against the Rules

3. Advertising is not permitted

[pale pond]

hi, question. does everyone have massive latency?
and frequent disconnects?

when on full servers?

[azure reef]

if you want to be very safe upgraded honour gear will be enough which scales to around 278 iirc

[azure reef]

well that depends if youre using pvp gear or not

265 pvp isnt tooo bad for low rated

it mainly depends on how well you play/your parnter(s)
but as a new player the more ilv the safer

[vale hawk]

Unfortunately for you, at a certain point you have to actually play the game if you want the rewards from playing the game

[azure reef]

boosting wont really do much, cost you a bunch of gold for gear that might not even help you much
since gear doesnt get you that far in pvp

[peak geyser]

(especially not even 3 month before a new expansion where you'll need new stuff anyways)

[hollow iris]

boosting for PvP is a really bad idea if you don't know the class or even more importantly know the class for PvP that well

vanilla players used to ream boosters and gold buying twinks in greens just by knowing how to use the rotations etc

hell, second time round I used to get reamed by folk while in top end crafted gear on classes I never knew that well when doing BGs for mogs

[azure reef]

they didnt talk about pvp boosting

[hollow iris]

which still isn't going to help you in PvP, especially rated

skills and knowing class rotations is what helps there

[vale hawk]

It won't

Ugh. Done entertaining your troll bs

[azure reef]

not only does alot of pve gear do nothing in pvp due to stats, pvp is arguably the highest skill cap mode in the game where even massively undergeared you can beat others
going into it with no prior experience even with gear will not just boost you to 1800+

welp it was worth the try

[peak geyser]

Let me ask you this:
You clearly know NOTHING about the game judging by the stuff you ask, so WHY would you even presume to know what will and will not work?

[vale hawk]

(I wonder why they keep getting banned from other servers)

[hollow iris]

Duck, did you miss the part about me going in with top end crafted PvP gear and actually having done serious PvP on my first account and getting totally reamed in BG/Rated when farming for mogs on classes I didn't know well?

PvE gear especially won't do much

[hollow iris]

jeebus, you really don't listen at times

welcome to the block list numbnuts

[peak geyser]

We think the same thing I guess...

[hollow iris]

did they just get yoten?

[peak geyser]

yeah someone at least purged the messages

dunno if it was connected to a ban

[hollow iris]

I do wonder at times, and then I remember people still manage to get Help&Support banned over in the Warframe discord and that takes real effort

[peak geyser]

That was just the bot saying you posted too fast but if you're looking for the https://www.wowhead.com/item=163573/goldenmanes-reins that's a Zone world drop in stormsong I think

[icy kettle]

Till when as a demon hunter to the starting area and starting quest
When can I go to chromie or start doing dungeoms

[peak geyser]

I think you still have to do the whole starting questline (Argus and then Vault of the Wardens part)

[icy kettle]

Ok

Till which level is it ?

[peak geyser]

good question been a while since I last did it (also probably before the level squish) so I couldn't tell you

[rancid moth]

Is it no longer possible to get the shadowforge key

Because the quest giver doesn't show the quest for me and I did what I needed to

[peak geyser]

Pretty sure they removed it (along with any other key)

[keen pewter]

Retail has no proper keys correct

[frank valve]

Newbie asking if i can remove tmog from an item?

[azure reef]

yes u can, go to a mog vendor and right click the item

[frank valve]

[rancid moth]

Should I make a skeleton key

If that works

Or exists

[peak geyser]

there's some of those for the lock picking boxes, kinda worthless though

[rancid moth]

I need it to get to the grim guzzler would a skeleton key open doors cause the item says it doesn't just open boxes

[peak geyser]

If I remember right you don't need it? I think that door is just a shortcut, but it's been a while

[rancid moth]

The other way requires the shadowforge key I believe

If not then it's glitches and it won't let me go the other way

Or I can't find the right way

[hollow iris]

really really dumb question but how do you get to Shattrah these days?

[peak geyser]

portal room in SW/OG

[hollow iris]

tried that but only showing silvermoon, dalaran ( both ) etc.

[peak geyser]

the one in OG has a downstairs area

if you're horde

[hollow iris]

ah... that would be why. I'm both horde and dumb it seems

[onyx halo]

Iirc there is none for Shattrath :/ or I also missed it

[peak geyser]

to be fair.. it's very not obvious

[onyx halo]

i think it's to honour hold or thralmar

[hollow iris]

nope, it's downstairs from main portal room. just used it

[peak geyser]

yeah you turn left before you enter the main one to go downstairs

[onyx halo]

Ahah

[hollow iris]

Ladon, you able to confirm whether Roffle's Cloak is 220k or is the auctionator throwing a spiked price at me? Undermine is telling me 7k median to 45k tops but auctionator is saying 225k

[covert edge]

for context im ilvl 271 in retail, looking for someone to put me in the right direction for getting better gear aside from grinding pvp

[frank valve]

Hello i'm a newbie and i found myself wondering if should i jump over the hype and boost to 70 and start a little bit of farm for mystic to jump to the bg. or should i keep up with my ZM campaign in the retail and then farm for honor in bg

I really like pvp but idk where i will get into the shape of playing better

[fervent bone]

If you wanna learn pvp you probably wanna stick to retail because you probably already somewhat know what classes do

Going to wrath would make you learn everything from scratch again

[frank valve]

yep i'm playing both MM and BM in retail but in wrath hunter looks fun and similar gameplay tbh

[fervent bone]

It doesnt really matter which you begin your journey in, generally the way to improvement leads though watching someone do their thing

Bicmex comes to mind as one of the most prolific hunter streamers

[frank valve]

Newbie asking what is this barrier?

[daring arrow]

that is a necrolord ability

it prevents them from harm or whatever

ita shield

[frank valve]

yea that one looks fit for mm hunter

[fervent bone]

Fleshcraft

Hover over the buff to read the tooltip

[frank valve]

aight thanks for the notice i might change my convenant when i get 80 renown i'm venthyr bm right now but i find it more easier to play mm in the bg ez farm for honor

[fervent bone]

You'll figure it out eventually 👍

[frank valve]

if i switch convenant i will still need to do all the chapters of necrolord to unlock all the renown?

[daring arrow]

yeah but u can always change covenants any time

you will need to do the story to unlike the conduit stuff

[fervent bone]

You should finish the covenant campaigns to get the last soulbinds

[tropic minnow]

Umm I just came back how do I download add ons? Wotlk

[cosmic spear]

Hey guys i know racials dont matter too much but I get enjoyment out of min maxing, with that in mind, what do you think is the best alliance tank race?

[white mural]

Dwarf, Dark Iron Dwarf or Kul Tiran.

[cosmic spear]

OK cool I was looking at Dwarf myself so i'll go with that thanks

[white mural]

No prob.

[frank valve]

Help i did all this questline for the dark ranger mog but i still don't get it what am i miss?

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/dark-ranger-customizations-transmog-how-to-unlock

[umbral saddle]

Are you playing a Hunter?

[frank valve]

yea

[umbral saddle]

did you do the questline on a hunter?

[frank valve]

yea

but i think i need to go trueshot lodge to buy something there not sure

for this

after i finished the questline itsnt notice or navigate me about it

[tropic minnow]

how do i queue for a bg in wotlk

[frank valve]

should i need to do the orderhall campaign to be able to get inside the Trueshot lodge?

[hollow iris]

it's literally in the WoWhead guide

you buy it at orderhall

Although unlocked by completing the achievement questline specifically on a Hunter character, the ensemble actually purchased from Outfitter Reynolds at the Trueshot Lodge (Legion Class Hall) for 1,000 gold. While the Dark Ranger customizations are only usable by Blood, Void, and Night Elf races, the attire can be worn by any Hunter.

[vivid steeple]

Can Bloodhunter's Quarry be traded or mailed?

[hollow iris]

BoP so nope

[pallid fulcrum]

Helo guys,
whats the best zone to expect some wpvp while waiting for bg pop etc?

[vale hawk]

Typically Zereth Mortis or any zone where there's an active world pvp quest from the brokers in Oribos

[pallid fulcrum]

Hey I am starting WoW Classic for the first time. Wanting to level up as a Healer eventually to be ready for WotLK. How do I set up for the game, get in groups guilds etc, Addons I need? Sorry if I am in the wrong room.

[keen pewter]

Come #mop-wow bebe we'll get you all shiny 😉

But for addons, I guess healbot and decurse help with healing

You can do a lot w/o addons though, even in wotlk

[hollow iris]

possibly details! if it exists for threat tracking but aye, not a lot needed

[pallid fulcrum]

asking for advice here - Returning player. Best professions for Mage? Best Race/Faction?

Can a ilvl 261 fury get the slime serpent

[astral lichen]

Can I use Zan-Tien Lasso on ANY invasion, or does it have to be during a "specific" invasion?

[brave light]

good evening all, i have a question sorry if this is not the right channel for it i assumed this was the right one for it. i have been wanting to come back to wow im a relative newb to the game still but i played allot during end of BFA and start of shadowlands mainly ending up playing for the pvp side of the game wich i enjoyed thoroughly. but im considering starting again on classic since ive only played wow retail. ive read and heard allot that classic pvp is much slower in a sence i dont mind since im used to playing LOL where you only have 4 buttons and have to wait for CD. but what is in your opinion the best place to play for PVP? the things i kinda want to avoid is the demanded end game pve grind for pvp gear and legendaries but if that cannot be avoided in either versions i dont mind. Thanks for the ones that reply on this question and im looking forward to hearing your opinions on what version of the game to play focussing on pvp and less mandatory play.
With Kind regards,
Donsmeister

[frank valve]

anyone know how do i go trueshot lodge?

i'm trying to find a npc called Talua can't find him

he isnt appearing there

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=108868/talua

I just finished the questline of the dark ranger mog and i need to go Trueshot to buy Ensemble: Dark Ranger's Attire

[hollow iris]

you log in with a hunter and then do the hunter artifact quest for Legion

also bad news, you also need to do the TMog quest on a hunter too to unlock it

[frank valve]

i'm a hunter

where do i get the quest?

someone told me to fly around dalaran untill a brid follow me that's the intro of the quest but im flying for min nothing happens

[peak geyser]

are you in the legion version of dalaran?

[frank valve]

idk playing SL

[peak geyser]

yeah but there's two of them

one in Northrend and one over legion

[hollow iris]

1 : no idea, I got mine on logging in and arriving in Dalaran
2: make sure legion Dalaran ( not the crystal forest one )
3 : have you tried using WoWhead and following the multiple guides there?

[peak geyser]

if it's the one in Crystalsong forest, you're at the wrong place

[frank valve]

so what should i bascially do

where should i go?

i took the portal to dalaran from ogrimmar

[peak geyser]

I guess open the map, do a right click and if you see crystalsong forest there, you're wrong

[frank valve]

yep guess i'm in the wrong place

how do i get the right place?

[peak geyser]

there should be a non crystalsong portal

actually, the one for legion is the azuna portal

[frank valve]

aight omw thanks

[peak geyser]

you probably can't fly in legion though and I don't remember if you get up there without doing a quest xD

honestly, bribe a mage to get you there is probably the safest bet

[frank valve]

[peak geyser]

or you could do the legion intro quest? Maybe that's skipable nowadays? Can't really help you there tbh cause my account is so old and I don't really know what they changed how and when when it comes to stuff like that.
Maybe someone else can help with that

[trim linden]

Hello, question, anyone available to help me clear an invasion point in Eredath so I can finish the Argus questline? This part isn't soloable apparently (retail)

[hollow iris]

try the retail-group for whichever region and Faction you are, more likely to get someone for the right side there

hope you get someone soon

[trim linden]

Oh thanks!

[warm timber]

Hiya. Got a quick question. For the free shadowlands promotion, is that dependent on me having previously bought an expansion beforehand, or just to have been subbed to WoW? I always played when the new expansions were bound to release and I never bought an expansion. For instance, would it be too late if I were to purchase dragonflight now, and to receive Shadowlands for free today, considering its the 5th? EDIT: Just realised that I have found the answer to my initial question. Would the dragonflight purchase possibly still make me legible for it?

[peak geyser]

I think you need to have bought at least one of them in the past

[keen pewter]

Really wish they would had worded it a bit better honestly

[peak geyser]

also Dragonflight doesn't give you access to Shadowlands (yet) I'd assume when 10.0 hits SL will merge into base game

[warm timber]

Right. Well I was hoping to have a footing before DF with shadowlands as I have been thinking it is kinda late to purchase Shadowlands at this stage, unless it was on sale.

[pale iris]

Which expansion is the best to beat, for me as a Shadow priest (horde) (Level 37)?

[warm timber]

Yeah I know the norm of how Blizz goes about previous expansions. Was wondering if I had one license (regardless of release) I would be able to get it.

[peak geyser]

They all scale with your level up till 50, so just pick the one you want to play the most

[warm timber]

Thanks for clarifying that up. 🙂

[pale iris]

Okay thanks, then Im gonna play wrath of the lich king

[hollow iris]

WTB Motivation to grind BFA Flying

@peak geyser since you seem to know a little about mogs. how come so much of the newer stuff is also stupid prices? I can see it being huge gold piles for deleted/OOG items but there seems to be some newer stuff that is "big dumb" prices

[peak geyser]

I'd assume you mean stuff like [Varruth's Guillotine]?

(some day I'll get that bot to work)
But yeah it's mostly stuff with unique models and low drop chance

that gets prices like that

[forest lily]

Varruth's Guillotine - https://www.wowhead.com/item=190735/varruths-guillotine - Live 9.2.7

Varruth's Guillotine

Live 9.2.7

[peak geyser]

ah did they change it to a slash command?

[keen pewter]

yeah they were "forced" to

[hollow iris]

was more things like green cloth legs from BFA going for 115k and cloth wrists from legion for 140k but that would explain it if it's just stuff that either is low drop or in that dense a loot pool that it's rarer than the DC would suggest

right... back to the zandalari unlock and then trying to get the motivation to keep grinding Flying since I'm guessing it will help with Alliance unlocks if I decide to do them 😄

[frank valve]

Newbie asking what is focus stands for? i have read in wowhead and few other but still don't understand how it's actually helps in pvp/pve?

for example this one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012484356037677127/1016453397207068742/346fgna.jpg

ik my counter shot can interrupt enemy from school casts

[peak geyser]

In general you can keep in mind: The more unique something looks the more expensive it gets, especially if it's low drop chance

[peak geyser]

It's the red(?) energy bar you use for your abilities

more focus = more buttons to press

[frank valve]

oh it's basically my (mana)?

[peak geyser]

yup

[frank valve]

Newbie asking of there's a class with abilities to empty my enemy focus?

so i can use melee harass freely

nvm that's sounds dumb i'm just a newbie that trying to be smart

[peak geyser]

nah, there is (was?) priests mana burn but I think they also got rid of that one

[hollow iris]

yup, only thing was mana burn and it was ripped due to being as abusable as it sounded 😄

[peak geyser]

In general you can't deplete other people's resources anymore in PVP (except health) but there's enough stunlock going around to make it annoying anyways

[gaunt summit]

Anyone got Kleia at Things Remembered in EU? 😦

[frank valve]

give me good examples of stunlock

[peak geyser]

well any class has good amounts of CC nowadays for make it's stuff like dragons roar, ring of frost, freeze and stuff

[hollow iris]

unless something got changed again proper stunlock is hard to do even for rogue, it's more having enough interrupts/stuns to make sure casts are few and far between

also why some folk play Belf and Kow for PvP on horde side due to racial

[peak geyser]

^

I mean the second you run into two people you're toast though

[hollow iris]

now in the old days... a good PvP rogue left you watching a health bar drop while you could do nothing unless you were a Paladin with bubble ready to use

kidney punch > MFD > Hemo > Shiv > rinse > repeat go brrrrt

[frank valve]

[azure reef]

thats still the case

[frank valve]

[hollow iris]

shows age by remember not only stunlock rotation but also that it needed points in both Sub and Combat trees

@azure reef they added stuff back in? when I left they'd made it impossible to actually lock out the opponent... close but not full lock

[azure reef]

well rogues just have a tonne of cc. if they didnt kill you they run/sap repeat

[frank valve]

is rog busted in bg?

[hollow iris]

I mean unless they gutted Kidney then it was always going to cause issues in PvP just by how easy it was to spam up combo and also refresh MFD at one point

[azure reef]

rogues are good in bgs cause ez camping of flags and like before, their cc potential

[frank valve]

rog is op like this in wotlk?

[azure reef]

i dont play wrath

[peak geyser]

I think RMP was meta then?

so probably

[hollow iris]

weirdly enough Hoonter used to be great for doing KOTH since you could just camp your base with "track hidden"

[azure reef]

it still is

[peak geyser]

nothing changed in 15 years then

[azure reef]

anyway this seems more like #retail-wow or #classic-wow

[hollow iris]

I think the last big change to meta was when they nerfed the NPC jump on Chain Lightning in 1.1

I mean, what was wrong with a 42 yard cast range?

[frank valve]

[trim linden]

Question, if i unlock master flying with one character, will all of them get it?

[hasty spear]

no

[trim linden]

oh ok ty

[frank valve]

you need this to unlock achievment

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267918444278710273/1016073562806829166/fdndfnA2.jpg

you get it when u finish chapter 3 chains

[rancid moth]

If it's a week in between each loot lock how come molten core said 2 days after I completed it

[peak geyser]

master flying is the speed

not the zone flying

[keen pewter]

because weekly reset is on wednesdays for you

[frank valve]

oh mb

[keen pewter]

For EU

[rancid moth]

I'm not eu

[peak geyser]

it always resets on set days

Tuesday US/Wednesday EU

[keen pewter]

Then it'd say in some hours, not 2 days

[peak geyser]

so if you do it monday in US you can do it again the next day

[rancid moth]

So it isn't a week long reset it just how long till the reset day

[keen pewter]

aye

[rancid moth]

I didn't mention I did it 2 days ago

So about 17 hours now

[keen pewter]

yeah

[frank valve]

runing on wotlk nowdays

[hollow iris]

oh dear, poison effect that just about every class can dispel

[frank valve]

[hollow iris]

mana burn - 500 to 700 mana drain on a 2 sec cast CD with 0.5 damage per mana drained

it literally emptied bars and the only folk that could deal with it were mages if they managed a counterspell in time

[trim linden]

ty ty

[fiery python]

"Each time you loot money from an enemy, an extra 5/10% money is generated and deposited directly into your guild bank." Does this guild perk still exist? Or the only income is by doing guild challenges?

[hollow heart]

So, now that wow classic upgraded to wotlk, tbc is over? There is no way to play classic tbc atm?

And if so, why did they decide to leave classic-classic there, but not tbc?

[azure reef]

i mean you can play tbc classic

it just wont be the current endgame anymore

[hollow heart]

so there ARE servers running for the tbc game (?)

[patent hull]

Anyone know if I want to change a toons name with a server transfer, can I make a throwaway toon with the same name?

[gaunt summit]

Did anybody find Kleia at Things Remembered in EU?

I'm a bit desperate <_<

[frank valve]

Newbie doing the progress in ZM asking what is this all about?

[gaunt summit]

it's just a secondary mission, probably to make you explore and begin opening chests around the place... I don't think it unlocks anything

[austere meteor]

So I'm not very good with WOW, and didn't play for too long but had a DH levels boosted. Wondering if it is worth getting back into and if DH as DPS is still any good? I always struggled by myself and found myself lacking in damage during raids and would get flamed for it. I started playing when Shadowlands was released

[vale hawk]

All race, class, and spec combinations are viable for all forms of content. The best one is going to be the one you're better at playing. Considering you boosted, it's no surprise you weren't very good as leveling is incredibly important to the learning experience

[austere meteor]

Yeah, probably was a bad idea haha. I struggle a lot with Key Bindings and rotating my cooldowns and abilities. I'm not sure if that has much to do with my DPS being low but figured that might be a issue that's part of it

[vale hawk]

When you level you get gradually introduced to your abilities and learn to use them together

[austere meteor]

Is there a class that you can recommend that is good for beginners but also viable for solo play

?

As I mainly just solo

Currently was running DH as DPS, I've tried DK but unsure on them, and I have a Marksman I am unsure of also. Think I might just go through the whole levelling process

[vale hawk]

All race, class, and spec combinations are viable for all forms of content and can be played at an introductory level--with the exception of death knights and demon hunters due to a lack of a proper starting tutorial experience

[rotund granite]

Is anyone about to help me with my game??

I’m new

[austere meteor]

How’re marksman looking atm? I quite liked the style of them. I’ve heard they’re not too hard to learn with

[vale hawk]

Easier to help if you ask a question 🙂

[graceful jackal]

@rotund graniteur best bet is to get a job

[vale hawk]

Like I said--all race, class, and spec combinations are viable for all forms of content and the best one is going to be the one you're better at playing

[rotund granite]

What do you mean?

[vale hawk]

Don't be a dick, this isn't an appropriate response for this channel

[graceful jackal]

@rotund granitethen buy a new pc

[vale hawk]

Ignore them, they're trolling

[rotund granite]

My pc is fine..

[rotund granite]

okay, can we talk on private?

[vale hawk]

No, but you can ask questions that you have here

[rotund granite]

Okay, so whenever I launch my game I get a black screen, I can still click on characters and classes and see the writing but my screen is black, I have no problems with playing other games..

[vale hawk]

Try updating your graphics drivers

[rotund granite]

@vale hawk Thank you very much you have saved my night from being a stressful one

[vale hawk]

yw!

[potent nest]

Hey guys! :)
I've got one important question for ya if you don't mind!

How do I have 7300 cosmic flux when my buddy has literally zero so far? I hadn't been to Zerith Mortis yet at all, no Mythic+ dungeons, only 1 win and 6 losses in rated pvp, the only raid I've joined has been a raid finder Ephemeral Plains, and no Torghast over layer 11 I'm pretty sure.

Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

[vale hawk]

Because you did pvp and killed bosses and minibosses in LFR

You did content that drops cosmic flux so you got cosmic flux

[potent nest]

Heyo, Gumball! Thanks a bunch for the input! Much appreciated!

Well, I'm still curious how I got THAT much on a new character lol. 🤷

[vale hawk]

Because each boss gives several hundred flux, as does pvp. It basically just adds up

[potent nest]

So pvp battlegrounds wins gives Flux too? I'm confused because I personally feel like we've barely scratched the surface lol.

Thank you for your time, I appreciate you telling me these basic facts. Something I couldn't necessarily google that easily. :P

[potent nest]

Yeah so basically the only thing I've been doing on this character is random battlegrounds and I tried to do one raid, but only killed 4 bosses.
Not trying to be pesky or anything. What do you think had the most impact on the Flux so far m8?
Based on what information I can find is I shouldn't have had this much in this little time. Thanks again!

[vale hawk]

That and the pvp, most likely

Numbers are cumulative, so just keep better track of the flux as you get awarded it

[potent nest]

True true! Now I'll be more attentive to when I get the flux. Weird though because my buddy has been doing RBG's and hadn't gotten any so far. Maybe I picked up a quest or something perhaps. :)

[austere meteor]

What are the best addons for WOW? Or the must have. Also what are the best ones that help you with ability rotations?

Also whats the thing called you need to download for WOW addons?

[vale hawk]

You should learn how the base game and UI functions before getting addons, as most already assume you know how defaults work

That and you won't know what you need until you learn the default

But anywho: https://www.wowhead.com/addons-how-to-install-and-maintain

[austere meteor]

I just get addons that make the UI more user friendly / easier to understand. As well as stuff that just makes the general playthrough more easier to understand and is helpful

[vale hawk]

Then that's going to be entirely subjective and up to your own personal preference

[pallid fulcrum]

I remember scrolling (reddit..twitter..I'm not sure where) and I stumbled across an addon that allows hair to remain down when wearing hats- anyone hear of this addon?

I think it's new!

Ah, I found it- https://www.wowhead.com/news/what-if-you-could-have-hair-under-your-hat-community-spotlight-327976

[tropic minnow]

How to level fast 60-70

[pallid fulcrum]

GRIND

[vale hawk]

I mean, basically. Questing is a good way to go about it

[pallid fulcrum]

im back bitches

[vale hawk]

Hi back bitches I'm Gumball

[pallid fulcrum]

naah just speedrun

Im Angionova the bm hunter

im looking for some old friends

[vale hawk]

This might not be the right channel

[pallid fulcrum]

i cant afford a sub 😦

[vale hawk]

That's not something you can get help with here

[pallid fulcrum]

i know

i just miss playing

i have no friends left

[austere meteor]

Is there much difference with Horde and Alliance?

[bronze grotto]

In what regard?

[austere meteor]

Just in general. I'm thinking about starting over to learn the basics of the game more but contemplating going Alliance over Horde

I've always been Horde, I've heard for Aussie servers Alliance is better with Guilds compared to Hordes

But don't know much else

[pallid fulcrum]

i love both

im on silvermoon

alliance

pretty nice

[austere meteor]

So it's more just personal preference?>

Cause I have a Marksman level 50 that I just boosted, so not sure whether to start again from scratch to learn how to play Marksman more or just stick with the Level 50

[bronze grotto]

Learning how to play a spec properly tends to happen in end game in wow, the leveling part only really introduces the abilities

[austere meteor]

What would you recommend as the best way to learn specs for a class once you're at endgame?

[bronze grotto]

Non biased of where we are writing, wowhead class guides usually do the trick for the basics

If you want in depth stuff, the class communities usually have links to stuff (the discord links are on wowhead as well as far as I recall)

[austere meteor]

Thank you! I've got WOWup with my old addons and it's all updated but not appearing in game. Would you know how to fix that?

[bronze grotto]

Unfortunately not

[vale hawk]

If you want any addon that's on Curse, you need to use the Curseforge app (ideally the standalone version) due to how APIs are no longer shared

[frank valve]

ez class really op in bg

your rotation is 3 skill

Aimed shot, steady, rapid fire

[austere meteor]

Need some help again, trying to do tutorial and it says use Kill Command on Dummy. When I try to summon pet as requested it says I have no pet

?

[austere meteor]

Just rotate between those skills?

[frank valve]

basically it's what you are gonna use the most they are your main skills to pull out damage.

[austere meteor]

Fixed it. turns out he dead

[austere meteor]

What about all the other abilities? Still use them just as much or not really?

[frank valve]

ofc all the hunter utilities are important and you will get the feeling to use them situational

i'm a newbie like you right now farming for honor with mm hunter i don't even have my legendaries yet still doing the ZM campaign and im doing good with mm

just get your first pvp trinkets and you will be in a good spot for bg

[vale hawk]

I'd... take all of their advice with a mountain of salt. The first thing you should do is refer to your spec guide and see what it recommends for your ability usage and priority and compare it to how you're playing, and adapt it to your playstyle with practice.

Guides for hunter: https://www.wowhead.com/hunter

The hunter class discord: https://discord.gg/yqer4BX

[frank valve]

The trueshot is amazing discord for hunters i got into the right shape of pvp very quickly with all the advices i got there

[austere meteor]

Thank you!

[frank valve]

btw if you still wondering how is the gameplay of a hunter look like this is it

https://streamable.com/6qlzux

i forgot to mention the kill shot skill its should be your first priority

[austere meteor]

Is there a way to set it so your character auto locks onto the next enemy if you defeat the target you're focusing?

[austere meteor]

Haha thats confusing as

[frank valve]

oh sry thought u are about to start pvp and farm honor

[austere meteor]

Haha nah won't touch PVP for ages

[frank valve]

anyway ya mm pretty ez and fun to struggle with

i rather play bm for pve tho

the pets can taunt and get the focus while u chilling back

[vale hawk]

Interface > Combat settings

Has auto-targeting options

[austere meteor]

Am I blind and not seeing it?

I don't think it's in my settings

[meager fog]

Anyone able to help me with the Pillars of Creation quest? I've done the three dungeons all the artifacts are supposed to be in and this is the only one that I have found out of the three. Any tips would be appreciated!

Nvm found the rest of the dungeon it was kind of hidden off lol

[azure reef]

Killing a lock who doesn’t press UR till he’s like 10% and no dark pact

[devout pelican]

is there any quick cast setting on bartender? like instant aoe skills?

[hollow iris]

bartender just allows you to set up multiple clickable action bars, nothing affects cast times apart from in game specialization talents so if your AOE isn't Instant anyway then no addon will make it instant

[devout pelican]

sigil of flame

and infernal strike i want them insant to my cursor

[azure reef]

you can just make a cast @cursor macro using the normal wow macros

[hollow iris]

also anyone know if the

/autoattack```

bound to Tab works still for swapping through targets since it seems retail no longer has the "shift to next target in combat on target death" thing I'm sure it used to do

[keen pewter]

My target switches when my target dies in retail

Maybe it's a cvar?

I know I miss it on Classic lol very big difference

[hollow iris]

target switches fine, autoattack however doesn't and I'm sure it used to for Hunters and more importantly I'm worried it'll not auto-swap for tanking

[hollow iris]

I tried this which was the old reset for it and didn't seem to do anything... I also remember way way more options in "Interface" back in the days

/console SET stopAutoAttackOnTargetChange "0"

[keen pewter]

Maybe I just think AA keeps going on because I play casters and WW lol

Vs prot pal and dk and hunter in BCC

[keen pewter]

For what is worth
That cvar seems to be doing between nothing and 0

[covert charm]

what is the highest lvl conduit 278 ?

[keen pewter]

Yes

[frank valve]

i recently got the dark ranger mog but idk why it can't be transmoged

i'm a hunter

[hollow iris]

the skin/eye part or the actual "armour"?

[fair light]

Any chance anyone here knows if dark moon fair is up?

[keen pewter]

Open your calendar, it says when it's happening

It always on the first sunday of the month, so should be up

[frank valve]

the whole set of the dark ranger

no idea why it says can't be transmoged

might there's an issue with my gear?

i'm on leather

i tried to mog another set i have got and it was all fine

[umbral saddle]

only hunters can transmog it

[umbral saddle]

it is up

[hollow iris]

must be hunter character, must be mail items, must be green or better ( or looms )

[frank valve]

might it's cause i'm a orc?

[hollow iris]

no, it's because you're trying to mog leather with mail items

armour must be same type as the mog

[frank valve]

buy hunters need leather

[hollow iris]

no, hunters use mail

[frank valve]

oh really?

i got the wrong advice in trueshot then

[hollow iris]

mail at level 40 ( not sure when that is now with squish ), and the leather thing was way way back in the old days when some stuff got worn purely for Crit stat

[keen pewter]

I think you start with proficiency now but don't quote me on that

[umbral saddle]

^ it used to be leather before 40 and then mail afterwards but on retail its just mail

[hollow iris]

no idea, I came back to a squished level 40

[frank valve]

for pvp is suppose to be mail?

[keen pewter]

for everything is supposed to be mail

[umbral saddle]

no you wait mail all the time

[hollow iris]

but the leather thing was hell, I want to say pre-Wrath purely for stats

everything si supposed to be mail

[frank valve]

oh alright pretty sure that's the reason why i can't mog my dark ranger

btw what is the race that doing the double jump

looks nice on hunter

[hollow iris]

for the third time, yes

armour mogs must be the same type as what you're mogging from or onto

and double jump is Nelf/Belf, or DH

and why always mail

[frank valve]

but

what is the benefit of leather

would like to the ss

[keen pewter]

none

You're a mail user

[frank valve]

[hollow iris]

yet again... way way back some pieces were worn for crit capping, but that was back in the days where you had Warriors wearing cloth pieces to hit certain caps

now... none, especially since full mail = 5% primary stat boost

[frank valve]

so leather is what the hunters wearing in wotlk?

[keen pewter]

No

they might have some leather if the stats are veeeery good

[hollow iris]

no, leather is what hunters wear sub "level 40" in the old days and certain specific pieces in TBC/Vanilla

[keen pewter]

but you want mail anyways

[hollow iris]

now, they wear mail or lose out on armour and stats

[frank valve]

aight good notices cheers

[keen pewter]

i wish wotlk had armor specializations

but alas

[hollow iris]

TL;DR?

5% Primary > anything you could possibly get from a non-mail piece these days

[pallid fulcrum]

I need urgent help, I died in classic wow and my gravestone is not marked on the map, neither is there a marker

what should I do?

[keen pewter]

that's weird

Try /reload

[pallid fulcrum]

I am at my corpse also and I cannot respawn

[keen pewter]

Try /reload if you haven't yet

[pallid fulcrum]

Ok had to reload a bunch of times, thanks.

[keen pewter]

That's computers for ya

[pallid fulcrum]

Weird, never happened to me before 😄

How do I get the yellow frame back for enemy health etc, it also turned off for some reason?

[keen pewter]

v

shfit+v for friendlies

ctrl+v for all

[pallid fulcrum]

ty

[formal drift]

can some one give me some help i have not played wow in a awhile and evrthing changed i just needa quick rundown

[manic horizon]

Anyone know how you unlock breaking kul tiran will quest

Ready for war horde side

[frank valve]

is this the way to play mm hunter nowdays? (pvp)

[orchid plank]

Hello everyone! I'm brand new to WOW, well ive played before but quit a bunch because of my friends saying they would help me learn but never did, But I have came across this discord so I figured Id ask for help or any tips anyone would recommend, or heck even a new friend to play with XD, Just seeing where and how I should start I haven't created a new character yet wanted to see where I should start first

[digital mango]

!server

[frank valve]

newbie asking what is proc means

i see many pvpers saying procs

what is all about

[white mural]

A proc is when an ability with an effect has its effect happen.

[frank valve]

talent?

[white mural]

Like an Outlaw Rogue's Sinister Strike doing a Pistol Shot proc.

Or a frost DK getting Obliterate's Killing Machine to proc.

[frank valve]

but what actually make the proc the talents?

[white mural]

Talents and/or passives.

[frank valve]

aight good notices thanks

[white mural]

Yup.

[frank valve]

btw

there's a sign when the skill is ready for a proc?

[white mural]

Usually your key starts to glow and you get a cool effect around your character.

Like this.

[frank valve]

oh yea i always see them shining and was wondering why thanks tho

[frank valve]

oh you mean the animation of the skill or the key button of the skill in my bar?

[white mural]

The skill on your bar begins to glow when it gets a proc.

[frank valve]

yea that's why i was always wondering i like the glow effect pretty cool

[white mural]

That's a proc.

If you want to get used to procs, just play a frost DK.

It's literally the "press anything that glows" spec.

[frank valve]

There's a period time for the proc that i can miss the window to activate it?

cause i have many utilities that i might would like to do it before i click on the proc skill

[white mural]

Oh, yeah. Procs have a time before their effect runs out. But you do maintain the cooldown, meaning that even if you miss the proc, you can use the ability.

In Killing Machine's case, it just won't do frost damage and be a guaranteed crit without the proc.

But not every proc is the same. For example, WW monks have a proc that causes their Tiger Palm to make their next Blackout Kick cost no Chi.

Arms Warriors have a proc that resets their Overpower ability when spending rage.

[hollow iris]

half the skill level with a class is knowing when to ignore the procs, especially if tanking

[white mural]

Sometimes.

I think Blood DKs ignore procs the most. Their Death and Decay.

[hollow iris]

aye, some are good all the time but I was more meaning the times where you don't say press Frenzied Regeneration on CD/Proc because you know you're about to be soaking damage from a mechanic in another 20s after it runs out

tries to remember what D&D actually was

I'm sure I used to ignore that too, can't remember why but it was more a use when needed rather than on CD for definite

that and grasp

[white mural]

It's true.

Even Victory Rush is unused until it's needed.

[hollow iris]

aye, same with a few of the BM Hoonter buffs where you just don't use them on trash if there's elites about that might need them

[white mural]

There are spammable procs, though.

You don't just keep your Pistol Shot charge as an Outlaw Rogue for example.

If you get it, use it.

[hollow iris]

oh aye, multiple things are "use when up"

just more half the skill with a class is knowing when to not use something and sandbag it instead

[white mural]

Applies in a small way to Dance of Chi-Ji, I find.

Why use it in single target if you can spin2win in AoE.

[hollow iris]

never sank that much time into Monk, that was the hurricane kick one?

/tt dance of chi-ji

[white mural]

Bot asleep.

[hollow iris]

bot now slashy slashy

[white mural]

[Dance of Chi-Ji]

Yeah, the bot's down.

[hollow iris]

/tt Dance of Chi-Ji

yeah, [bot ded]

[white mural]

[Boomer Brew]

Nothing.

[hollow iris]

found it on WowHead. aye, that's a sandbag even though it's a "kick for free"

[white mural]

It's a kick for free that does 200% increased damage.

Couple that with the 5 targets stack.

[hollow iris]

yup, even nicer it's "next" and not "next within <time>"

[white mural]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

Nah, it's a next within time.

[hollow iris]

https://tenor.com/view/kool-aid-man-oh-yeah-wall-break-family-guy-gif-8149689

[white mural]

It lasts like 15 seconds before it runs out.

[hollow iris]

hmm... right, time to check BankMule and then decide whether to grind out some more fo BFA flying or move onto SL finally for covenant

[white mural]

But it just became the best AoE in the game.

[hollow iris]

did I read it right somewhere that if you finish Covenant quest and hit 60 "new" toons to SL don't need to do the Covenant quest to select it?

[white mural]

You can also boost your renown to 60 with an item.

And pick your covenant from level 50.

So you can theoretically get renown 80 before reaching max level on alts.

Most I've got was 73.

[frank valve]

Newbie mm hunter wondering how is the aimed shot procs works?

i'm find myself often casting and often instant shot

beside the double tap i don't know what makes the proc for the instant

[white mural]

It's the last row talent.

Lock and Load.

That's a proc talent.

[frank valve]

oh so it's basically rng to make the proc?

it's basically a soft version of Double Tap?

[white mural]

Not at all.

Double Tap just uses Aimed Shot a second time on a cooldown. Lock and Load can proc anytime allowing you to use a resource free Aimed Shot.

With basically no limit. You can get Lock and Load procs back to back if you're lucky.

[frank valve]

this a sign of the proc from the lock and load?

its randomally triggering the proc right?

[hollow iris]

easier... get this

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/tellmewhen

[frank valve]

[white mural]

That's the proc from Lock and Load, yes.

But you should also see your Aimed Shot ability glow on your action bar.

And if you train your peripheral vision, you'll be able to pick up on these subtle hints as soon as they happen.

[shell yacht]

I'm about to get my first carte ldinar, as a guardian druid I have been advised to get the gavel,.
So farr I have been doing only lfr to get ti and was though that the higher dificulty you give abetter weapon.
If I buy it now would it upgrade itself once I clear normal and the nheroic or do I have to buy it again ?

[fallen topaz]

When do I get my pets from buying wrath classic?

[modern sapphire]

Excuse me? I literally have it installed right there

[hasty spear]

huh? whats the issue?

[hollow iris]

aye, what's the issue?

just means it doesn't load unless it's a DK toon being played

[modern sapphire]

why isnt it showing the rotation?

[hasty spear]

MAYBE because its outdated?

i dont use maxdps myself but the courseforge site states that the current game version is 9.1.5 and the last update was november 3rd 2021 so its old af at this point

the DK module even more so with version 9.0.2 and last update at febuary 2nd 2021

so even if it works it may not even be correct anymore

[modern sapphire]

I have elvui installed including shadow and light

why isnt it showing in my addons in wow?

[hollow iris]

because you obviously don't have them in the right place?

[modern sapphire]

where do you put it?

[fervent bone]

SnL shows inside the elvui menu

[hollow iris]

everything goes in <wow path>/<version>/interface/addons

[modern sapphire]

I have it all there

[hollow iris]

obviously not if you don't have ElvUI showing

[modern sapphire]

wait

why do I ahve 2 wow files

wtf

What am I doing

[hasty spear]

yeah there is no normal elvui the shadow and light could plug into. also i recommend to not use it if you dont even know how to install it correctly

[modern sapphire]

I know how to

I used it before

but I just dont know why I have 2 wow files

thats why It wasnt working

[hasty spear]

what do you even MEAN by wow files

[modern sapphire]

like this

in storage D and my other drive

I have no idea why

[hollow iris]

two install dirs, can happen if you uninstall and then reinstall to a slightly different location

[hasty spear]

then those are not 2 wow files that would be 2 wow INSTALLATIONS

[hollow iris]

check BNet app and see what one is linked to the app launcher, delete the other one

also why I use uninstallers that do dir/regkey traecs and delete those too

[storm plume]

if i buy dragonflight do i get shadowlands for free or do i have to buy it also?

[hasty spear]

you have to buy both but shadowlands will get included for free in your subscription once dragonflight launches so you could wait until then and then buy only dragonflight

[storm plume]

ok cool

[frank valve]

Newbie asking what is the damage deal addon everyone using how is it call?

[keen pewter]

Details!

[dreamy tundra]

hello anyone knows what mythic gives shoulder and chest?

[keen pewter]

You can check the loot table of mythics in your journal

[dreamy tundra]

it shows powers only

[digital mango]

!retail

how do i see server stats again?

looking for a server with less que times that's still good for pvp

[half arch]

hey I was using wowhead to find the elite gear from bfa s3+s4 for the transmog & added those to the all the things addon.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=167273/notorious-gladiators-chain-sabatons?bonus=5842
wowhead was very helpful with that, as I could chooese "elite" and it displayed the bonusID at the end (5842)

For BFA S1 & S2 I did not find the option: https://www.wowhead.com/item=164825/sinister-gladiators-chain-helm

anything I can do to find the elite bonus ID'S for those seasons via wowhead?

[frank valve]

Newbie asking how do i get quivers instead of the cloak/cape in my back?

i'm a hunter and i think it's more cool to have a quiver

[white mural]

Get the artifact weapon from Legion as a transmog or go kill Sylvanas in Sanctum of Domination.

[frank valve]

How do i get this?

[white mural]

That's from Sylvanas in Sanctum of Domination.

[frank valve]

Where exactly i can get the artifact quiver in legion?

if you have a wowhead link would be awesome

[white mural]

Simply go to Dalaran on the Broken Isles.

You'll get approached by an eagle with a quest.

[frank valve]

yea i was therre in trueshot

i got the heartstone too

[white mural]

You didn't get any of the artifacts in your time there?

[frank valve]

only got the dark ranger antire

i can find on this npc some quiver mog?

[vale hawk]

You don't just go to Dalaran, you have to complete the Legion intro and then get sent there and acquire your Dalaran Hearthstone

[frank valve]

yea i have done it already

[white mural]

Steezo already said they got the Hearthstone, Gumball.