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pretty sure this one is new
this one too i think
theyre making progress on the codex - minor artifacts appear like they WILL be included!
this dropped from a rare in korthia
this too
sick af back attachment
the conduit thing was added last build
i didnt think it dropped off rares tho
also it dropped 350 anima
which seems a bit high
it did for me but it was rare :/
the best mini rare
i missed this one last time
wait
seems like it doesnt change with the assault type tho
theres only pvp changes this week?
Does anyone know if the Covenant themed 9.1 mounts are locked to those specific Mounts? In the dungeon journal only one mount of each type is labeled as 'Covenant'
Example:
vs
They’re likely going to all be covenant locked sadly.
theyre still covenant specific, yes
Drat. Definitely an unbalanced number of mounts depending on your covenant
5 if you're Ardenweald, 3 if you're Venthyr
nah
its just not implemented yet
the recolor numbers are the same
itll be fixed
report it though
just in case
AFAIK there's also a strange number of recolors. For example the Kyrian mounts have 4 colors only - silver, black, gold and rose gold. But there's more than 4 colors of the Wilderlings
I think there’s only like 3 colors for the Venthyr ones as well
They might tie one or two of them to The Court of Night or Marasmius
According to the comments for this mount, someone was able to use the mount on an Ardenweald character
the korthian armanents have a casting bar - so you dont use them by accident
Maybe that’s just something they’ll go back to later? I’d honestly be a bit surprised if Blizz eased up on the restrictions, but I wouldn’t be opposed to it
Some mounts cross over in 9.0 like the Big skeletal birds and the horses/unicorns and the bats, but then again the Kyrian Robo-cats are locked to Kyrian only
looks like adventures from 9.1 have a new background
they made the soulbind model thingy match the new length
they changed its animation too
hard for me to capture
He sounds similar to his 9.0 statue one, its def the same actor, but they pushed him a lot more into the old man archetype
where he was more just a booming general in 9.0
anyone know how to do the New Sigil of the Kyrian quest?
Kyrians don't have that quest, but a different one and even that isn't added
At least non kyrians know where they'll be able to pick up their breadcrumb
Hrmm, the sylvanas/tyrande cinema isn´t life right now, yes?
will it be a ingame-cinema or will it be a saurfang alike one?
We dont know for sure, but no, it isnt in yet
I think it’s going to be a rendered cinematic, but not CGI
They’re getting rid of tyrande as the nightwarrior- it would be a waste to make a noghtwarrior cg model for one cutscene
In fairness, the only thing that changes is her eyes
she's still gonna be wearing her new outfit, thankfully
The Night Warrior outfit is just awesome. I hope they make that the Nelf heritage set
But now that Tyrande is cured they better not bring back the “Malfurion my love” nonsense
She ´s still..a avatar of Elune, she ´s not a nightwarrior anymore, but still a avatar of elunes power
could someone write a feedback ingame for "changing her eyes into something better then..Bright neon blue?
Why? That was her eye color before
naa, its even more bright then before
I don’t really mind it. She’s still the avatar of Elune’s wrath as you said
nop, not wrath
only avatar of elune, without wrath XD
the wrath was the nightwarrior
Tiridan is in his monke profile pic arc again
I have returned to monke, Dafire
her model is definitely work in progress
likely trying to figure out how to change the eyes without actuallychanging the model
which means it has to be an effect on the model
we had gotte.n in the beta a model of her with a really cool eyeeffect, in blue^^
Tyrande cured? Must've missed this info from all the 9.1 spoilers 😛
Yeah she no longer has the curse following the Elune chapter
Oooh! Feel free to DM me with all the details (I don't mind spoilers), but others may 😛
Well... we are in the spoilers section
True... just thought maybe it's "too" spoilery 😛
perhaps. there's not much to it though. Elune just possesses Tyrande while 3 other Night Warriors absorb her power. Then a cinematic, and in the aftermath we find the Tear of Elune and Tyrande cleansed of Corruption and now thinking straight again
Most of the events take place in the cinematic but we've managed to fill in the blanks
Ahh I see. So she's not on a murderous rampage for Sylvanas any more then? 😛
Just a regular rampage.
Sort of. She's now focused on rebuilding the Night Elf civilization as a metaphorical middle finger to Sylvanas. It's their way of saying that no matter what Sylvanas does, they won't lose hope and will just bounce right back like nothing happened.
(It's Blizzard's way to get her out of the spotlight so people don't get mad that she's not there in Sanctum of Domination obliterating Sylvanas)
But it does hint at a potential new Night Elf capital
I bet it'll probably be in mount Hyjal. I don't see them settling in the eastern kingdom
a few things were left out, the three night warrior would have died, too, elune intervened, changed the power of the night warrior in tyrande and make her a avatar of herself..not a avatar of her wrath and..by the way..purrified the entire ardenwaeld, restored the balance there, create a new sigil for the winterqueen in form of a tear of elune.
And all of this will (of course) be seen in the zone after the cinematic? (insert sarcasm here) 😛
I think that the Winter Queen sensed Elune's power in her grove and intervened, and her power managed to contain the power and Elune manifested herself in reaction to her sister's presence
na, its even rightly told..elune intervened
and did all this
not the wq
the wq was after this a happy sister and "Oh elune didn´t forget me..sweet..äh..mortal come with me"
No it's not told. What we know is that it was overwhelming. And then the winter queen is present with the tear. And we know ELune and the WQ had a chat during the cinematic
but the wq told you..that her sister did that
and the other nsc´s told you this aswell
that doesnt mean the WQ didn't had an hand in this
The WQ just say " sister, after all this time, you did not abandoned me "
And everyone is only talking about Elune, nowhere does it say that the Winter Queen intervened.
even the wq
Anyway its up to interpretation at this point, I agree, but If elune managed to resolve this herself, there is no point about the presence of the WQ in this.
This is my take. The ritual is about to fail and the WQ come in the middle and it draws Elune attention, both have a chat through Tyrande's body
Elune creates a new tear after this
It's quite possible that even the Winter Queen wouldn't have been able to intervene and that's why Elune intervened so strongly that she even...possibly shows herself in persona, so...character and so^^
not as moon, but as a character
or we get a speaking tear..its possible too XD
no she spokes through Tyrandes body, the dialog after the event doesn't leave a shred of doubt ^^
You do realize most of this was Xavius right? What is with people not getting that?
Yeah I know Malfurion was Xavius. He was smack talking him in the dungeon. That doesn’t excuse how hilarious Tyrande acted during the whole thing. That’s my point.
Funnily, it actually wasnt intended to be xavius by the quest designer who wrote it
It just conveniently works
Wait. So “Tyrande I need you” was initially intended to canonically be Malfurion?
Yes, it was her first main zone questline she got to do
The way she wrote it was not how it came out in the voice acting
Uh - I need a source on that, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t in like alpha but they rewrote it pretty early on didn’t they?
Questifer's talked about it on twitter, from when she wrote it, the intent was that it was a genuine call out from Malfurion to Tyrande
but what likely happened is that the voice direction team + Danuser changed it to how it went on live
That Sylvanas artwork is 
tormentors of torghast is bugged
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
the non elites keep resetting their hp
not a reset as in, they go away to their spawn
they keep attacking
Is it the green ghost ones? It's whenever their buff refreshes
you get like 30s to nuke them or something
the buff being the zone thingy that gives them frost bonus damage or something? I reported it a few weeks back, can't remember the exact details
yep that's the buff
is this new or did they redo the item?
is this the thing that was the green crystal thingy?
Has the rating system for m+ been implemented into 9.1?
Havent been on ptr so just checking
It's new, korthium was always labeled as "WIP" and this is the final version
Does 9.1 have reasons to have stockpiled Anima waiting to buy things?
it has reasons to have stockpiled stygia,i dont think they're introducing many anima bought things
Not seen any new reasons for anima
That strikes me as odd, given that it's one of the main WQ rewards.
oh, there are a couple of new renown based items
flying mount at renown 70, for 7.5k, and a transmog set at 77 for 10k
Ah. I feel like I'd get to that passively just from playing until the xpac drops.
Especially with fully upgraded sanctum level anima rewards from WQs
on launch no
but later on you'll get transmog sets and mounts
Thanks Gamer.
Will rogue specs get nerfed or buffed?
neither
When will the Sylvanas encounter start?
1h
know anyone a good stream for this fight?XD
nope sorry all the guilds i watch dont stream this fight xd
same here -.-
@light compass i think naguura might stream
not sure
yup she's gonna stream it https://www.twitch.tv/naguura
thanks
@light compass preach will also be streaming https://www.twitch.tv/preachlfw
Too many Mograines that it’s giving Blizz a migraine
Raid Sylvanas Finale Transition Cutscene
#Shadowlands #Cutscene #ChainsOfDomination
yo has the maw grind been improved at all in 9.1? or will sockets be important enough to spam the maw for like an hour every day
but assuming I want them in 9.1 did they improve that process at all?
new maw/korthia is certainly more interesting, but it'll still be a grind if you want to go that far
word, yeah reading about the codex thing now
trying to decide if I want to go all in on 9.1
figure it's like a 25-30 hr/week commitment to be at CE ish level
is that high?
you don't need sockets to be at a CE level
oh word?
it was really hard to read that situation as someone not currently raiding
yeah the 100th best (I will never even be that good) spriest in NA only has 1 socket heh
Wouldn’t be surprised if the socket items still drop from adamant vaults - so it’s not necessarily a rep grind entirely
It just is a rep grind if you don’t want to deal with RNG and weekly lockouts
Oh boy
There was a distorted voice in there that kind of sounded like a soul version of Sylvanas. I need to listen to it again to make sure. Edit: it’s probably just banshee form or something
How so?
"kelthuzad was never friends with arthas or actually loyal to the lich king, he lied to everyone the whole time"
I mean, it makes a lot of sense with what me have learned in SL
"it makes sense with the other retcons" isnt really an argument that makes it good lol
They aren't retcons. They are recontextualizations.
you know that those are still retcons right? lol
like beyond the explicit version people talk about
those are still retcons in the neutral sense
vendor got another build
VersionsName: 9.1.0.38783 → 9.1.0.38827
probably new build tomorrow before raid testing
I havent seen the Sylv fight itself but im being told its sucky
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/815450631447904276/847639206557122560/unknown.png
Don't play Melee
Worse than storming affix? 😂
Far worse
She basically jumps through the entire fight
Goes left and right and up and down and there is a fuckton of Aoe markers
And you get slowed because an arrow is rooting you until you kill it
Monk might do ok
I even wondered if the boss needed to be tanked lmao
And Dh then I presume?
@austere gazelle @foggy abyss you're basing your opinions on a bugged fight
Melee is fine
None of you is going to clear mythic sylvanas
So play whatever you want
Raid testing happened last night lol
I was just asking @foggy abyss opinion, just to have a feedback, i dont have opinions tbh since i didnt even test it
whatever class you play will be more than fine to clear whatever content you're doing
Bolvar Simulator 3000
That's not true tbh.
yes it is true
Struggling to clean all the +15 MM+ S1 on a DH begs to differ
what
that's the dumbest take ever
if people won't invite you it's not a class problem
you're fighting against 100s of DPS players
It is a class problem.
and why it is a community problem? Because some classes fair better than others and make the content near to " easy mode "
So player tends to take those classes
Look at the MDI and ask why there are almost no melee taken there ^^
MDI is a reflection of the current meta content
player tends to copy the MDI comp
where PROFESSIONALS play what they want to WIN
because winning = money
people copying mdi comps is dumb
you'll never be as good as someone that plays in the MDI
yeah well, I'm done trying to explain , but there is a legit class problem that even the dev acknowledge, content is not friendly for melee
it's like taking limit's WF comp against denathrius and expecting to win
You can clear all +15s with any class even survival Hunter,
The difference is that pugs are sheep
So if one spec has a bad rep it wont get invited, my friend is a feral who does more damage than other pug dps using meta specs,
If you're jaded by pugs not taking you get a guild or friends and bypass pugs
limit could put a fucking survival hunter and win and everyone would be like "SURVIVAL HUNTER GOOD?????"
and the % of people playing survival would skyrocket
Content is not friendly to melee because they design mechanics that a lot of ranged can just avoid,it was brought up in an interview,but it doesnt mean that a melee cant do the same dmg as a ranged
@strange falcon that's not what I said :p but this problem tends to favorised ranged classes , and certains aspect of the game are ranged prioritized
More the opposite,the MDI/world first ppl are just doing their own thing,you dont see world first ppl shouting this class sucks dont pick melee,
The problem is people who do monkey see monkey do,and act like metasheep without being aware of why ppl are taking those classes
No I agree that the metaslave and the community is a problem right there, but it is emphazised by the current mechanics favorising ranged classes, which makes people tends to pick easiest comp, while you can clean the content on the normal diff, the end game is not about farming M0 and normal raid for a part of the playerbase, and when you reach a certain treshold, your class begin to matter
Blizz have stated themselves they're trying to find ranged mechanics,
But that doesnt mean you cannot complete content with melee
You can totally do all 15s in time with all 5 melee(holy pally for healer)
Just fine
The fact pugs are reknown to be stupid and metaslave without knowing why is not part of this
I do agree that having a class that can do more dmg can be easier to clear content with than a survival hunter per se,
But that doesnt mean you cannot clear the content with those specs
Class matters only as much as the people you're playing with,
If you're really good at certain underdog specs,you'd do more dmg and have more enjoyment by continuing to play that spec than trying to go meta and not playing optimally
I saw this disc guy in an m+ which was healing like shit,but he was doing amazing healing as holy,
He did worse because he bent to the meta
Basically this sums it up: better to be good in melee dps instead of a shitty range dpser. I´d rather choode the person who knows what he/she/it is doing
Now. Can we go back to topic of this channel?
No,only complaints allowed 😂
This hits too close to home
Gamer i see you every day posting new things on ptr channel. Ur a highly intelligent and knowleadgeable person whom i agree with so i would say that sometimes its not worth battling people whose opinion is based on clearing a 15 xD. I get you wanna help everyone but the good you do with posting screenshots and discussing things is such that i just wanna make sure you dont spend time on people who say that "mdi is a reflection of meta"
Thats all i wanted to say hopefully you have a nice ptr day
I mean people are unfortunately less than intelligent
My duty is to try and change their mind
Because it would make the game so much easier and fun
the second you stop caring about the meta and the community's perception of "what's good" and "what's bad" - the more fun you'll have
you can switch to a "meta" dps spec and still get denied because of there's more dps players than healers/tanks
that's just how gaming works, everyone wants to be the big dps player, nobody wants to have responsibilities of a tank/healer (even though tanks have easier mechanics)
I personally believe that any class is capable of doing 20s and 23s(my area of keys for now) if the person understands their spec good
exactly
It"# not even a belief. It's a fact. Even with the worst Class + Covenant Combos.
i'm still like boggled at the night warrior arc and the fact they made the sylvanas fight an encounter where faction leader heroes fight with the raid and tyrande is not one of them lol. i know i know on one hand I Don't Know What I Expected but on the other hand.. how
She does supposedly face her in Ardenweald though
Is it stated somewhere that it's bugged ?
P1 is bugged yes
I do enjoy the p2
Where they run around
While avoiding things
Almost reminds me of orgozoa
that build just went out, looks like
not an actual build, just the small one peach mentioned
oh i guess
i'll go see if the kyrian breadcrumb is fixed
aaaaaaand it's not
at least the arthas scenario is fixed
Now they need to fix Kel’thuzad’s dialogue.
I still think its good. It was clear from the start of SL that Arthas was being controlled by the Jailer and that KT was always truly allied with Zovaal
I agree. They just need to write it a little different. Say he was always loyal to the helm that raised him or something
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602920306226757632/802661915121811496/Capture.PNG i just discovered this
i dont think it's a joke,it's a call for help from the devs 👀
Craftenium?
It's another realm of the shadowlands, it's mentioned in a few places
I don't get how it is :( I'm dense
Explain to me in baby fork
Its a "joke" about how some designers(stand in for the devs) went to revendreth as punishment for their sins of punishing their "subjects"(the players) with RNG,mechanics and systems
Dont be dense
Oooooooh
Ok I get ut
I am very dense
Now that I read it. Yeah that's definitely a call for help
Like bro they're outing themselves here
Or ya know, it’s just a reference to the creation of the Greek labyrinth in the form of a similar equivalent in the wow universe
All it’s missing is something about a great beast or some punishment for their son or something
you have to hover but yeah
we compiled all of them on the wiki
I feel like scoring is still going to screw over solo tanks and healers
And that’s bad
As a tank, I legit can’t keep up with the empowerment bar because my powers don’t give me enough dps unless they give me haste and crit
They need to make some changes to scoring to either account for tanks and healers or to score them differently than dps
I did it like 3-4 weeks ago and it felt trivial at that time as a solo tank, but then.. last week? I think they just flat buffed hp by like 50% and it was awful
DK has kinda shit powers for damage though, basically everything is "ok I guess"
it adds up but most of the time I just take raw stats
If they added special scoring methods for healers and tanks like getting empowerment for staying a certain amount overhealed or for tanking a certain number of mobs at one time for long enough that would be great imo
mostly I think it's just 3-4 common powers that do literally nothing for you unless you pick up about 3 rare/epic powers to synergise with them specifically, it clogs up so many options
They need to make move speed less impactful because it also hurts DKs on the empowerment bar
When it really shouldn’t
They’re dps is great
Their
gear and tower talents will pretty much solve everything though
It's also a wing thing. The one with all the phantoms fucking sucks
this seems somewhat unnecessary
seemed bugged :( His friend was nowhere to be seen
Bah. 188.
I think I missed one (of 4) chained spirits on the broker shop level which cost me 5% completion
The "kill boss quick" score is probably entirely unavailable to DKs
meanwhile mages probably get it for free
Seems like "Time empowered" doesn't include the boss floor. I suspect it excludes the vendor floor and possibly the time in the loading area where the bar is paused too
i haven't had issues as a blood dk in soulforges
but i narrowly missed a perfect run again :/
I was in coldheart. Had some unlucky spots with chain fears
I guess the thing is to try and force Pauper and Daredevil
Savior is also a dumb one to miss
but I swear sometimes stuff must spawn in walls
there's no epic powers for DK that I feel are super impactful
not many I even really take. Entropic pool is nice but only really on bosses
got a conduit upgrade out of it. I wonder if that's once/week or repeatable as much as you want
cause if so it's a pretty easy way to get conduits
at least after the season knowledge cap mechanic has decided you get to play with the fun stuff
there's a cool one, not sure if it's epic but it summons a horseman with death gate
not too useful since in most cases you'll kill everything easily but hey, bonus points for being cool
It's neat, yeah. It's a shame that doesn't do anything fancy at 4 stacks
looks like they fixed anduins model (modelviewer helm clipping aside) to have the proper collar now
Looks dope
dont know if this is a coincidence or an active change, but all of my korthia covenant dailies were from one covenant today. If this is an active change, i think it might be a good thing - having it spread out over all of the covenants made it feel somewhat disjointed
i did get one group daily from the broker poster in the upper area
i think that has its own spawn criteria b/c it is a group daily
also looks like korthia dailies finally give deaths advance rep
rares still dont tho
oh thank god they fixed the raid entrance
has a proper platform and torghast portal
and no elite mob standing in front of it lol
Imagine if there was a worldboss in front of the raid entrance 😂
honestly there pretty much was haha
Ppl had to kill it everytime it showed up
mawsworn with a massive aoe frost slow pulse that dealt chunks of HP to everyone
Maybe make the zone well guarded and then have a safezone where the portal/summon stone is
Rather than have an elite blocking the entrance or ppl would lose their mind on forums
did they ever implement the ardenweald maw invasion?
So far Ive only seen the other three
Maw invasions?
they always did give rep
at least in the last ~2 builds
rares sometimes give venari rep
Goth anduin mind control bimbofication is still the funniest plot point they’ve done yet
Mind control D:
man tier 3 > 4 archivist rep is a paiiiiin
full clear every treasure and rare each day and you'll get what
100-200 rep
the biweekly ones with the covenants in the maw, can be seen on the map
i almost finished the NF one
but it bugged out and i somehow finished the quests without talking to the npc
I havent seen theirs so I wasnt sure it existed haha
Oh
Yeah no ardenweald one
Not that I’ve seen
Probably still unimplemented
no it's there
it exists
just that with every build blizzard would reset the invasions so if a venthyr assault was ending before a new build was out, it would go back to kyrian after the build
i didn't have time to finish it but it exists, i did the 4 quests and one of them is actually important as it gives you "rift" access
which is a special phase of the entire maw
with special rift-only rares and mobs
interesting
yeah it's the same as the korthia rifts
which .. takes time to get to
if you're curios;
so is there a release date yet
cuz we are pretty much in june. is the patch looking like something thats about to come in a months time?
I'd say yes
but it's hard to be sure because we don't know if anything is still not yet on PTR
No release date

People are guessing july
I have seen no guild got phase 3 of sylvanas
but today I found a video of a guild doing phase 3
I guess we also going fight the jailer
nah
there was a wowhead post on.. friday I think that had links to a few streams where they'd been in p3
I have seen this video on youtubne from Teliesin e Evitel that says " why there won't be a patch 9.3 "
Save me 21 minutes of my life and tell me if this has been confirmed or it's just clickbait ?
Nobody knows if there will be a 9.2, 9.2.5, or 9.3 for that matter.
But the timing doesn't look good right now, for them to be able to squeeze in a 9.1 release, a 9.1.5, a 9.2 and potentially 9.2.5 before the next expansion. Generally speaking, there's about 6 months between major releases (9.1 likely July 2021, so 9.2 in Jan 2022)
Next expansion is likely suppose to release sometime in 2022 (following the standard 2 year cycle, with Shadowlands having released in 2020)
they said this wouldnt be a warlords expansion
and considering no blizzcon, its likely theyll announce the next expac at their global event
whatever that is
so - probably no 9.3, yeah
but there might be a large 9.2
¯_(ツ)_/¯
this is a pretty big X.1 tbf
If 9.2 is a big one, I'd guesstimate it will be around the time of Blizzconline next year (Jan/Feb), and probably the last big one for this expansion.
1 raid and 1 dungeon, in the 7 months since launch... with 9.1 not being out yet. Not good tbh.
i mean
literally a pandemic
expac was delayed a month - during which its very clear no work was being done on 9.1
normally they start on 9.1 before 9.0 is out
they clearly werent able to with the expac launch timing and the pandemic
We've been over this topic before. The pandemic may have slowed things down, but can't keep using the pandemic as an "excuse" once things become the new normal.
im not
im saying the initial expac push was fucked because of the pandemic
which fucked 9.1
Also from what I'm hearing, they had to bring in Overwatch 2 developers to help get Shadowlands released, despite it's 1 month delay... Tbh, they probably should've delayed launch further.
b/c they didnt start on it until after release
thats why its taking so long
normally X.1 work starts before launch
it definitely didnt this time
I think it's fairly safe to say, Shadowlands overall has been "fucked over" because of the pandemic. Things would've released sooner, in better shape, less delays etc.
So whatever expansion comes next, hopefully will end up better.
That is of course, assuming Blizzard already has devs working on the next expansion
probably not outside of the concept stage
they dont usually start until after X.1
if not X.2 assuming an X.3 patch
Think we can stop using "usually" in determining a timeline. The pandemic screwed up what is considered normal/usual 😛
That much is a given already
What class r you guys gonna go for in 9.1?
ganja smoker
Glitch walker
wonder what excuse they would have used for their shit content if the pandemic hadnt happened..
because im hopping it gets better
sad attempt at trolling there buddy better go back and not use your little memes next time 😉
yeah think hard
took ya long enough mate
blind shots to try to stick something
dude just go back to bed isnt your neet sleep still up?
🤔
Idk it's not shit content
The content is all very good. There just wasn't the usual update to spice it up nd such
It's not really shit content ngl. It's just wasn't a lot + a late patch update
i hope so. like i went to the ptr. there wasnt much to do. i just dont want all of my fun to come from fridays when my guild raids
then the freaking ksm change
made ksm a few months ago while on covid lol. doubt i will be able to run 30timed + 30s on both tyranical and fortified while working 9 to 5
Korthia got a lot of bad press because it arrived on the ptr pretty barren,but a lot has been added to it so far
I personally like the torghast changes but i know many people dont like torghast in any shape or form
We still dont have an official bluepost about m+ and you cant even do m+ at all on the ptr yet so i would hold judgement on it for now
i dont understand why is blizzard so hellbent against giving rewards to torghast but the updates are an upgrade
they are giving rewards
bunch of cosmetics + rng sockets/conduit upgrades
well thats good. some reason to run that every week
ive heard this way of thinking from a bunch of people. but not everyone has the skill or time to run a +20.
There was a video called "A genuine defense of Shadowlands" in which to save you 36mins, they said that comparing everything from 7.0(which lasted 6 weeks!!) To 6.0 and 8.0.
That SL 9.0 is a really solid launch patch and if we were during normal circumstances with a patch cadence that is usual(3-4 months max),
Majority of ppl would have considered 9.0 as a good opening patch
Majority of the hate towards SL is the content drought many times more than it is actual complaints of the quality
9.0 on a purely statistical standpoint has a lot more content than a bunch of other .0 patches
i dunno if i would have called 9.0 "good" but it had its good parts and bad parts. torghat and the maw are pretty much a chore
dungeons and raids are good
i literally gotta talk myself into doing maw dailies. and torghast twice a week
this exacerbates with alts
the maw should been like islands > go in get shit get out
before you get overwhelmed
I think they may have made a marginal mistake by making torghast mandatory for legendaries,but then again,
If you dont like torghast,you get your lego to rank 4 and thats literally it
or w.e. hundred ideas better than " nobody escapes from the maw until we done with dailies then we heart out "
You never have to go to torghast again
And the maw dailies are useless for player power too,
The only thing you get out of venari rep and stygia is the sockets at exalted
as a warrior main i had to swich legos alot of times and i require currently 3 different ones
But if you're not a top end player why do you chase after sockets
If you hate the maw
I deem your complaints mostly self inflicted
cuz i mythic raid and its pretty much mandatory lol why else
fury
currently just ring of w.e
So you will work 9 to 5 in the future yet you mythic raid,which implies a big time investment
Are you necro or condemn spam
Only one that finds it contradicting
for tanking i use reprisal for mythic + and wall for raids
@vocal flintmaw dailies are optional though
they really arent when you count 3 dailies x7
So you deeply hate maw dailies and torghast,and yet you went through the trouble to get different legos for m+ and raid for the same spec
What so u mean?
Again self inflicted complaint
2 for tanking was my point
true the stigia farm is over pretty much
Next patch it's gonna be even better for the Weekly Chest since like
It's gonna give Soul Ash or Anima
That'll be fucking good
Not doubled
50% increase
arent they adding an item youre gona have to use along with soul ash
I thought Holinka wasn't working at Blizz anymore? Yet he's doing an interview?
So 150%
shinier soul ash heh
oh well thats good i guess
It's very good personally
i dont think warriors need to build any legos next content anywys
It doesn't stop people from making more legos
probably just upgrade the ones that matter
You still get ash from torghast ontop of new ash,so you can send ash to alts from main
They also increased the amount of old ash that drops per layer
I feel like these should've been a thing from the start but that's a common thing
Like it happens every patxh
As i said,ideally you play the game for fun, i dont think your guild is a world first guild or even an hall of fame 100 guild, so if you really did hate torghast and maw dailies as much as you did,
You really could have done none or little of it,and still have gotten CE regardless
By your i mean the warrior guy
Proging on SV bois
may something
we started late too
like at the end of january
we have alot of moms and dads..
everyone doing xmas shit
well not like it matters for that
but still
Its up to your own choice,if you think maw dailies hurt your enjoyment,then dont do them, sockets arent a big enough thing even if doing mythic to be worth your enjoyment
Simple as that really,you choose how far you push yourself
i dont think thats a mentality we should have inside a game tho
everything should be entertaining to a degree. i dont think anyone thinks dailies are fun. honestly im surprised dailies still exist in its current form in 2021
like i said id rather have an bfa islands exploration game instead of 3 dailies
but instead of islands you go to the maw
You can do all 3 dailies in 1 trip to the maw
are they adding more dailies in 9.1 ?
heart grinding before last patch was a complete shitshow yeah..
Dont remind me how some people felt "forced" to run Maw of Souls 300+ times in legion for AP because "muh mythic raider"
CE doesnt require you to be a sweaty neckbeard playing 16hrs a day like the world first people
after a while you just lock your raid and keep pushing every week.
Preach got CE and he didnt engage in the maw of souls farm,
Why did you have a 100 mil gold debt in the first place
🤦
I find boe shifting too close to "world first" tactics than "i just want CE"
And world first tactics are in the tryhard box for me,i dont condone playing like that personally
world first is world first
World first people get paid by sponsors, alexios and his guild dont
not when you sell guild runs i guess
how much did yall sell em for. guild just went to sleep after clear
Of course,when boosting sites like the banned gallywix one(because of RMT) had 6 Billion gold
I can see how 100mil isnt much
All "boosting" COMMUNITIES aka close to a business and all buying gold places make heavy use ot RMT
Gallywix was only found out because of a whistleblower
That blew the cover of the whole situation
didnt they even use a scapegoat
everyone just threw all the blame on this single guy
The treasurer i think
i recall some guy interviewing em. asmongold probably
blizzard neesd to announce this patch soon ..
wife keeps saying i should join her in ff14 and I really dont want to
i tried to play that
i just suck at it
my rotation is > grind good gear > lose it in black areas > rage > rinse > repeat
ugh
wonder if tree of savior is still a complete shit show..
My dude,FF14 for hardcore mythic raiders like you,bas so little content its sad,there hasnt been "pve/raiding content" since december,
You play FF14 for the story and the RP, the pve is a very secondary thing
Story is mostly gud and music is gud,but it kinda ends there tbh.
Not nearly enough content to play everyday unless you're into RP.
@vocal flint tree of savior now thats something I haven't heard about in a long time
btw patch today?
Probably tomorrow - no vendor build so far, though it’s still a possibility
We will know for sure in 4 hours or so
That’s peak build time
the extra floor boss dropped this
you can also get the conduit upgrade item there
Yep - it’s a pretty good incentive but it isn’t mandatory because you can also get it by grinding the rep or by killing rares in Korthia
yup
Considering how long it took to get them in 9.0 any new method is a nice change
tbc launch
it was also a holiday yesterday,
We're currently experiencing a DDOS attack, which may result in high latency and disconnections for some players. We're actively working to mitigate the issue.
@uncut vault
Nice, thanks
torghast tormenter dropped soul ash!
this is how you get one of the hand mounts
cache dropped lots of other cool stuff
dont remember if they did before, but the assaults give 650 deaths advance rep now
oh fuck yes - the shardhide death's advance catchup upgradable set has haste
this is so much better than the covenant set
hold on - looks like there are actually multiple statblock variations
this makes farming pieces that you might not have upgraded actually useful because they might have a better set of stats for your spec
or for different specs depending on your class
what a weird bug lol
Arios Riftbearer has Mnemis lines instead of kyrian ones
but only on his departure lines
all others are fine
this assault is real clever at the end
Im loving the unqiue tactics for combat this patch
one hell of a step-by-step though lol
what skips will there be in 9.1? I have a couple of alts at 51, curious what I can save or if it’s worth waiting at all 
story can skip past all the torghast stuff straight to 9.1 story
as well as skipping right to korthia iirc
after doing it of course
That's been the case since the first build, not sure how they haven't fixed it yet
nothing that makes it seem imminent yet
Is rogue specs getting nerfed or buffed?
assassination gonna be insane in raid
Yeah it will, with early sims so far Sub is simming 100 dps higher than Assassination if you're Venthyr with Obedience leggo only.
Still waiting on a "Release" candidate for PTR... and then there's at least another 2 weeks before live... so unless this weeks PTR build is a Release build, we're definitely looking at end of June for 9.1
No way RC this week
Still no music, lots of missing dialogue, lots of bugs
Definitely end of June at the earliest
Honestly, never really expected it to be out until "end of June" at the earliest. I'm more upset at how overall late it is already, COVID or not.
Its lateness is making a few youtubers spy a certain japanese mmo looking for content
A certain FF kinda game, I'd imagine...?
I have played extensively both wow and such game and have explained my stance in detail in this and other servers including youtube comments.
However if you wanted a TLDR:
||the two games have little overlap in terms of playerbase, wow caters to PVE players and PVP+collectors, FF caters to RP and story players||
Ff has sponsored some wow streamers to play it
Or maybe they're just bored of WoW and wanted to play something else?
they literally put #ad in stream title :p
oh hey, patch
@dense plover thoughts
That's uhh.. a hell of a buff
ho boy, even more quests that have bad phasing issues in the campaign this build 😛
new quest not added
archivist has paragon now
self explanatory, wasn't present before
he sells a new item
bloody hell you must have been going at that rep
I didn't even make it to rank 2 yet
oh
why
ah
they add new dailies even if you did them already
kael is not present
tsk tsk
more torture it is
relog fixed it 👍
oh yeah, music wasn't added
that's sad
this guy has a new ability
aoe cone stun
lol they fixed flying in the subzone of korthia
still no fix for the new sigil of the kyrian quest, boo
It may be one of those things that's broken unless you take a new char through the campaign
likely
it worked on my character that was progressing through the campaign last week
kyrians have a new quest that works though
kind of
this fight on mythic is gonna be insane lol
Yikes
It really looks, plays and feels like an expansion-ending boss fight
Just really epic all around
seems like you get a much larger time bonus now
I got screwed on completion by a floor that had a bunch of inaccessable mobs, one of the upper layers where they spawn ontop of the walls
I was getting about 20-25% empowered bonus per floor
not quite sure how that translates to score
apparently I screwed up savior too, that would have got me the 200 score
par score is 2115, I was at ~72% of that
so I guess it's remaining % times 1.5 for time score
Mob hp/damage felt the same despite the recommended ilvl going up to 252
I get the feeling the optimal use of empowered might be to save it til the floor is cleared then have everyone run around and smash pots and save dudes
It's kinda awkward cause you no longer get more bar while empowered
so if you get a bunch of elites to low hp and empower vs them you get basically no gain for the entire floor
That’s SO good. We have low dps so we haven’t been able to outlast stuff as well. That’s a great change, especially because stacking stamina is essentially impossible
I still would like a dps buff, but that’s great
I wonder if they made any tweaks to empower as a tank or healer
Someone try on a DK vs a DH and see if you can get similar scores
the one I posted was as a blood dk
Oh - I see - they totally redid empowered
“The Empowered Bar is now more like a “Special” meter than a “Streak” or “On Fire” bar and is filledby performing actions that earn score and no longer decays over time or with deaths.
Once you meet a certain threshold on the Empowered Bar, an extra action button appears that you can use to become Empowered. You will remain Empowered for a duration based on the amount of bar that was filled.
Empowered provides a number of combat bonuses that can be increased or added at the Box of Many Things. Also, all actions while Empowered contribute to a score bonus at the end of the run.”
This is good
I like that it’s essentially a reward bonus that can be used strategically
How long does it take to fill and can you fill it again after using it?
Takes about the same amount of time to fill and deplete
except you can't refill it while it's going
you will generally get about two uses on an average floor, I'd say
depends exactly how you use it
I like that a lot more Varphera
It means it’s a lot less passive of a mechanic and it has some skill in when you use it in order to proc it more in order to increase your score
I tried the old version 2 builds ago and I hated it because I couldn’t stay empowered at all as a brewmaster
Can’t wait to try this version
gonna do my usual checks on things
ill post screenshots of anything interesting
well - apparently whatever boots im wearing got their model broken XD
because its just my feet now
new season card
also my camera is fucked
hearthing to try and reset
nopew
uh
@uncut vault what do i do?
my camera is up here
do i just have to wait?
was base paragon in before this patch?
archivist lore is in'
last time it happened I just didnt log in for a day or so, fixed itself
might need to wait for a build though
dont remember this having a countdown
seems like it only happened once
now that its at the ground - no more problems
they changed this knowledge thing - dont know what it was before
any idea why these fires are all weird colored?
looks like they added a lot more trees and scrubs - feels a lot less empty
thats kinda all so far
its an addition to all weeklies in 9.1 I believe, that they tell you when they expire
and I think those pedestals are for the torghast bonus event
I think the torghast members moving their souls/anima to the top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwzzupsMTb0
Was right, the WQ came to help.
Saving Tyrande Ritual Cutscene - Chains of Domination
#Shadowlands #ChainsOfDaomination #Cutscene
@austere gazelle Yes, but she can't do anything. As you can see, she only raises her hand while Exodia, I meant Tyrande prepares Obliterate
There is probably another cinematic after anyway.
It's not finished yet anyway, I'd be interested to hear if she's going to say anything 🤔
She will, that's why there will be something more to it
"my Sister
...., oh fuck, she´s angry😑 "
i know you guys have poured over the new build already,but i compiled this just in case
in the wowhead post for the reconnect button,all the comments are like "absolutely huge" "best feature of the century" etc
for once It wont feel easier to quit the game and launch it again from the client instead of retyping all my credentials xD
streamers also did that to not dox themselves
Yes, it has existed since at least bfa
And archivist lore book hasn't been updated
Is it just me or does the Elysian Aquilon mount literally just not work?
In what way?
like nothing happens when I cast the mount
so been a while since l checked, hows 9.1 shaping up, worth the wait? ^^
Ask some more active residents like peach
Absolutely
The affix is fun
Torghast changes are overall good
Korthia has a lot of mounts to collect
From the PTR, we know that Tyrande got her original eye glow back but still has some part (if not all ) of Elune Night warrior's power left inside her.
Only thing I fear is that the content, outside of the time gating thing, will be consumed fairly fast....
She didn´t lose anything, the ritual would have failed if elune haven´t intervened
she is a night warrior..without night warrior but avatar of elune power
I'm not saying she lost anything. I'm telling that she got cleansed from Elune's darkest side and wrath, but retains the original power of the NW. And the WQ did shows up to prevent people from being obliterated, likely triggering Elune's reaction that end up creating a new Tear of Elune
we´ll see
i still think, the wq´cant do anything against this and elune have to intervene to save them all 😉
The WQ and Elune are sisters. The WQ presence can probably soothe Elune cause she doesnt want to harm her sister, so her presence can withold Elune's power
When I first became the Night Warrior, it was with full knowledge that I might very well sacrifice my life to attain justice for the kaldorei. Such is often the fate of those who channel Elune's unmitigated fury. The power of the goddess still flows through me, but no longer does it threaten to tear me asunder. I cannot say how I will wield it in the future... only that I must do so for the good of my people.
She will most likely not switch back to her old self, she's still the Night Warrior, without the fury / wrath part
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1024014.jpg That's the only change you might get lol
Wish they’d use the type of eyes Valeera has.
No weird headlight eyes, but it’s clear they glow.
Wich month patch 9.1 Release?
We don’t know. Likely June or early July. June is being hopeful
Tanks buddy
the hide right shoulder (while left shoulder is visible) feature is still bugged (since first 9.1 build)
It’s sorta bugs but not quite
It depends on the model
If they aren’t the same model on both shoulders, it doesn’t work
It’s hard to fix tbf, shoulder coding has to be entirely rewritten to recognize the difference between left and right and have them be uniform in regards to some kind of reference that can be called by the mog option
New build on vendor btw
Probably going to go live ASAP
I wonder if when she's using her powers after this her eyes will turn black
Like void elf void form shit
But sure can simmer it down during normal engagement
So she's not blasting at 100% all the time
is 9.1 PTR available already?
has been for a while
any speculation when it goes live?
damn
Is tavesh normal heroic and mythic or just mythic
just mythic. no M+ yet though
Why does it show normal and heroic loot for the preview they posted today?
an oversight, most likely
For Season 2, it will be Mythic-Only. Season 3, it will have Heroic, get split into 2 parts, and allow Mythic+. Just like Return to Karazhan, and Operation Mechagon.
That's cool. I just wanna see cool effects on weapons and gear again
June 31st
Still too loooooong
:(
I want to make me necro lord lego
It'll be so freaking fun
There is no June 31
Yeah I was thinking June 29 but still no end season blog
Heard of sarcasm? (goes right over head)
Basically, nobody knows when 9.1 will be released. Being sarcastic, it's entirely possible that never is an actual option (June 31st never occurs, since it doesn't exist)
No release build on PTR yet. That usually precedes the 2 week announcement.
So, a release build at the earliest would be this coming week (7 - 13 of June), with the 2 week notice at earliest the week after (14 - 20 of June). So at this point, we're looking at minimum at the week of June 28th at the earliest. (more likely early July)
hey there testers. any news from the ptr. progress? think we still set for a july release?
im sorry? are you hurt? christ its not like im asking you directly
either way thx for the info
Doesn't hurt to read previous comments, before asking the same question already answered. Literally right above your comment.
So please save your "bent out of shape, hurt feelings" routine.
if you dont wanna answer you dont have to budy boy. nobody is asking you to personally push it out. so please save your " i am so tired of answering questions~ " routine
If you had reading comprehension (and you apparently don't), I did answer... in the comment immediately before you asked.
i did say i saw the news and read em afterwards so quit your bitching
I mean,the answer was infront of your eyes the entire time you wrote your first message,since it was the last message in the chat
So in this specific case id have to side with them
again. i read it and said thanks. but let allow you to feel important for a second longer
Your "thanks" came after a few sarcastic remarks, as part of your "hurt feelings" routine.
and? im in all rights. or you think the guy is crying and dying in a corner?
Okay kiddo, go back to your cave that you so desire to rest in 😛
@vocal flint are you trying to impersonate your char nickname? The annoying teemo roleplay does not belong here tbh 😏

<@&299347348847329281>
waits
👀
Question asked, and answered. Smart alec responses gets you nowhere, so you might as well crawl back under the rock from whence you came.
hmm hmm hm
@vocal flint keep the discussion civil
i was civil till i got called a kiddo
You were? Your own comments says otherwise...
im sorry? are you hurt? christ its not like im asking you directly
flagging someone as racist by saying kid is cool i guess?
🙃
mrpeach774 — Today at 5:11 PM
literally plz read above
youre like the 4th person to ask in the past 24 hours
i came asking a quick question. i get snark
I didn't call you racist, or flag you as racist... I said "boy" could be considered racist in some circles. Apparently reading comprehension is very difficult for some.
right right
Please stop answering it's fueling his nonsense
lol
Let me try to clear things up, for the people who have difficulty reading.
As of right now (June 6th/June 7th), there is NO confirmed release date for 9.1.
A Release build on PTR generally precedes the 2 week announcement, and no such build has been pushed to PTR as of yet.
For the TLDR:
- June 7-13: a "Release" build might appear on PTR
- June 14-20: 2 week announcement might be made
- June 28-July 4th: 9.1 might be pushed live
A more likely scenario as of right now, is that 9.1 will be released sometime after independence day in the US (July 4th)
thanks!
Pog
1.) I fail to see how calling someone “buddy boy” is racist. That’s the biggest pile of
I have seen in a while.
2.) @thick saddle jumping on @vocal flint’s case is entirely unjustified. Yes, they absolutely could have (and should have) taken a look at the messages in the channel immediately prior to asking the question, but that doesn’t give anyone the right to jump down someone’s throat like that.
look i made a mistake and didnt go a line up to read the shit. just got home and wanted to get fresh news. it was my bad
and sure i was a bit snippy but the whole " i am a slave to my work thing" ticked me off
🤷♂️ sorry
You’re fine dude. It’s an honest mistake, and honestly? No one really cares.
@west relic I jumped down someones throat? Wow... And to correct you, it was "boy" that could be considered racist... in some circles. I didn't say it WAS racist. So please don't attribute words to me that I never said.
Yes, you did jump down someone’s throat.
tuker carlson would be proud of ya.
And secondly, you’re sitting here taking someone’s words, changing them to fit your narrative, and then trying to say what they said could be considered racist. It’s a bunch of crap.
We see deleted messages too, mind you. Serverlogs exist for a reason.
I deleted because it's not for public viewing. I'm an admin on 3 Discords, I am well aware of what admins can see.
heh ofcourse
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Hello there, does someone know if current r4 legendary will keep their sockets when upgrading to r5 in 9.1 ? I know sockets stay for r1 to r4 upgrades but I was wondering if it would be worth it to craft r1 new 9.1 legs, use venari socket on it and then upgrade to r5 to use new socket item on other pieces
factually false, my human
🇳 🅾️
im a wildcard player, i play a different class/spec/role every patch
i usually want to know what doesnt suck
so i do believe, the question is relevant
Invalidated argument,if you do actually play the game you should already know whats good,either by playing the ptr yourself,by playing or by watching youtube videos of it
Thus not needing to ask a discord server for it
i do actually play the game, i just play in a seasonal way
so when im not actually playing for a while
when i come back, that question is relevant
Youd just play the ptr yourself or watch youtube videos from people you trust about the subject
My argument still stands
i dont like to play ptr tho, thats why i would ask
i watch videos too
but is always nice to have many opinions
so you can create your own opinion based on many opinions
instead of just following blindly 1 guy
Watch multiple youtube channels,
There surely isnt a shortage of high end players that make videos
yeah, but i dont get why are you gatekeeping people
from asking things in discord
lmao
asking people, and answering to people
is part of the fun
of being part of a community
Do we know if there will be new herbs or crafting materials like leather and cloth in the new tier?
Not in 9.1
Thank you
was kinda hoping for a reinvigorated crafting system in 9.1 guess thats another one off the list and int o 9.2
engineering feels so .. bare
Blizzard has announced that Global Friends Lists are coming to Battle.net in a June 8th update.
🤔
Not just yet,but if they can get it working with bnet friendlist, shouldnt be too far off
And also the first hints of this started when the Japanmmo we know announced theyd do cross region play
I'm sure I remember there being some region changes for diablo or something last year
oh maybe that's what I'm thinking of
Any build tonight ? Do you guys think we are getting closer to a release candidate ?
Id say we're pretty close, yes
theres no more real new content to test, and the major bugs have all been sorted
New porter profile pic 🤔
Like I said, dark ranger one was temporary with new Porter art coming 😛
my ptr just got an update, does that mean new build coming?
that sort of means it's here
it is not a release candidate yet. Also the servers are up but still on the old build? They're all incompatible
Anduin got a high quality cutscene model this build
normal tyrande tattoos instead of the ashy ones
Still no music
probably the NF only quest
hmm, over an hour since the build is out and servers are still offline
shoulder mog seems finally fixed
the right shoulder uses the nazjatar shoulder model that has two diff shoulder models
accuser and draven are now present
transport to the vault
research amounts seems to have been toned down
i assume they also reduced the amounts you get'
lodestaff has text
well they got the cloak names in this build, thats a start at least lol

