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terse patrol Mar 16, 2021, 5:15 PM

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This is the guy who long-conned Sargeras into destabilizing the Order pantheon.

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Who’s to say he isn’t using the Jailer?

pulsar minnow Mar 16, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I'd like to hope that Denathrius returns as a full-fledged ally. He has such a fantastic personality that I just would rather him be our friend like Bwonsamdi than an enemy. Imagine a fight similar to Argus where we're beat and then Remornia comes flying in out of nowhere slapping through the Jailer

terse patrol Mar 16, 2021, 5:29 PM

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I don’t see Denathrius as ever being a long term friend.

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He’s basically the cause of. . . everything bad that has happened in Warcraft.

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Outside of Old Gods related stuff.

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At most, he’d be a temporary ally.

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You’re more likely to get Azshara as a friend over him.

uncut vault Mar 16, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I see him more as very long term villain, and this is the start of his personal grudge with us

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dreadlords are shaping to be the center of all the cosmic stuff

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and we've "killed" quite a few notable ones, including him

terse patrol Mar 16, 2021, 5:40 PM

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I’m kinda betting on a Varimathras/Sylvanas reunion.

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@uncut vault

uncut vault Mar 16, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Possibly, at the very least I do want her to interact with some dreadlord, even if it isnt the main ones she knew

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cause in the end her story atm is kind of all tying back to that one line from TFT

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"Her heart is still elven"

dense plover Mar 16, 2021, 6:02 PM

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terse patrol This is the guy who long-conned Sargeras into destabilizing the Order pantheon.

i dont think anyone conned him - sargeras went insane because he saw a void corrupted titan

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no one convinced him of anything

terse patrol Mar 16, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Sure, though it may be likely the Dreadlords purposefully set him up for that encounter.

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@dense plover

uncut vault Mar 16, 2021, 6:21 PM

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he wasnt like, flat out tricked or anything

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but the dreadlord infiltration book talks about how easy it was to point the titans in the direction of the void, and see them collapse as they try to maintain order

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basically that the dreadlords on the void-corrupted titan told him about the threat of the void in order to destabilize the Pantheon

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it wasnt all that big of a maneuver because it didnt have to be, the titans had easy buttons to push

unborn glacier Mar 16, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Was literally added to the game in 8.3

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I'm almost positive that will not be the sepulcher the Primus was talking about.

dense plover Mar 16, 2021, 8:26 PM

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why would there be 2 sepulchers?

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also what makes you "almost positive"

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because all evidence points to that sepulcher

vestal wing Mar 16, 2021, 9:59 PM

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dont get fooled by evidence

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it's a trap

uncut vault Mar 16, 2021, 10:05 PM

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just gotta remember, every mystery in WoW is either "exactly what you expect from the start" or "something entirely unrelated because we gave you no evidence"

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Sepulcher will either be the one we know, or something we couldnt possibly figure out

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 12:50 AM

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A sepulcher is where a body is laid. It could potentially be a burial place of a first one or some sort of power.

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 2:05 AM

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except ya know, the primus and the winter queen have both been talking about protecting the sepulcher

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and the primus specifically calls out the sepulcher of knowledge

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:46 AM

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dense plover and the primus specifically calls out the sepulcher of knowledge

he doesn't say the Sepulcher of Knowledge. He says "sepulcher."

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"The Eternal Ones must stand together once more, before the Jailer escapes the Maw.
Bring my warning to the Archon, the Winter Queen, and the Sire. They must see to our defenses. Do not let Zovaal reach the sepulcher.
The Arbiter is the final key. Protect her, or all is lost."

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It's not even capitalized. They're not going to tie one of the most important things of the expansion with some random broker side quest in which he just took some scrolls. We've already seen everything the Sepulcher of Knowledge has to offer.

austere gazelle Mar 17, 2021, 8:45 AM

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uncut vault basically that the dreadlords on the void-corrupted titan told him about the thr...

They may have mixed lies within it though. I'm beginning to be suspicious about this " void lord wants to corrupt world souls to make it a void titan ", because Azeroth seems to be more that what it seems. Maybe the void lords were specifically hunting for a particular world soul that would hide something more valuable than the others. I mean, maybe the Dreadlords played both faction

if , for example :
1- They said the void lords wants to corrupt a world soul to make it a void titan to end creation to Sargeras
2- They said a world soul will bring the end of the void lords and the void needs to destroy all the world souls existing to avoid this.

It would be pitching both side against each others
It shouldn't be far fetched to think that US, azerothian, now represent a threat to the void and they might have seen that the power of a world soul could bring their end indirectly ( us or Sargeras ), so they may have believed potential lies of the dreadlords and went on a hunt

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 1:24 PM

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austere gazelle They may have mixed lies within it though. I'm beginning to be suspicious about ...

Except, ya know, sargeras saw a world with void in it and a world soul in it

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That wasn’t azeroth

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And also azeroth and it’s old gods and BfA

austere gazelle Mar 17, 2021, 2:08 PM

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dense plover Except, ya know, sargeras saw a world with void in it and a world soul in it

I don't understand your point, I mean, if the dreadlords told the void a world soul / titan would come for them, motivating them to corrupt / kill all world souls , and then tell Sargeras that the void lords wants to corrupt a world soul to end the universe, it would make both side attacks the other, both side having been manipulated into jumping into the conflict to avoid being destructed by the other

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What I mean that it's still possible that the dreadlords lied to both faction

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:32 PM

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They probably did.

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If they’re working for death, causing a big giant Titan to go on a rampage is just the best thing they could ask for.

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The Dreadlords are only loyal to themselves.

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 2:35 PM

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austere gazelle I don't understand your point, I mean, *if* the dreadlords told the void a world...

Pretty sure you can’t visit the void

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Like - the void is both literal chaos and death. When the homeworld of those bandage people made contact with the void, their world was destroyed and they all lost their physical forms

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The void is not like the twisting nether or the shadowlands - you can’t just visit

tropic trail Mar 17, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Wait so the Ethereals had a original form?

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Yes

tropic trail Mar 17, 2021, 2:38 PM

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That's neat

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:39 PM

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The reason the Ethereals are bandage people is because when they were constructing the barrier it only blocked out the void, but the arcane magic broke through and tore their flesh to pieces and left them as pure arcane magic.

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Also we have visited the Twisting Nether numerous times

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Twisting nether isn’t the void

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:39 PM

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I know

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 2:39 PM

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That was literally my point

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The void is nothing like the nether

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:39 PM

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My bad misread. But still the void doesn’t kill you on contact

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 2:41 PM

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I do not think it is a place you can visit

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Ok. We’ll see though. If things have come from it, and people like Azshara are pursuing it, I don’t see why we couldn’t visit. It’s the perfect grounds for an expansion.

austere gazelle Mar 17, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I never said something about visiting the void though, but didnt we did it in Mac'aree when pursuing the corrupted Krokull with Alleria and when Locus Walker pop up ? At one point he open up a portal to make us go into the void dimension or whatever to save the guy but we failed ( don't remember well )

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not the same quest but there is also this :

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=47219/a-vessel-made-ready

Wowhead

A Vessel Made Ready

Defeat Nhal'athoth and collect his heart. A level 45 Mac'Aree Quest. Rewards Discarded Remnant of the Void and 150 Veiled Argunite. Always up to date.

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" enter the void tear "

pulsar minnow Mar 17, 2021, 2:50 PM

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We have also entered it in WoD right? In the Ner’zhul fight?

austere gazelle Mar 17, 2021, 2:51 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/quest=47184/arkhaans-peril

Wowhead

Arkhaan's Peril

Enter the Void Tear and deal with Arkhaan. A level 45 Mac'Aree Quest. Rewards 100 Veiled Argunite. Added in World of Warcraft: Legion. Always up to date.

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" Cross into the Void "

austere gazelle Mar 17, 2021, 2:52 PM

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pulsar minnow We have also entered it in WoD right? In the Ner’zhul fight?

It was more the Shadowlands there, I think he stated it before the fight and the zone name with " the Shadow Lands" or something like this

dense plover Mar 17, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Macaree stuff is like void adjacent

jade basalt Mar 17, 2021, 4:40 PM

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We've gone to the Void a bunch of times like we did the Nightmare or the Shadowlands.. until they retcon it so it wasn't really that but just a surface-level version of it.

Similarly we never really went to the "real" Shadowlands until this expansion, despite the numerous quests and references over the years, which were retconned so that we just went to the Veil, which is the first layer, the border between our world and the Shadowlands.

I guarantee that when the Void expansion comes out, the Void won't just be a purple-tinted version of the game world, just like the Shadowlands turned out not to be just a grey-tinted version of our world.

terse patrol Mar 17, 2021, 6:40 PM

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AFAIK, the Ethereals aren’t all Void.

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I think most are arcane energy?

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Hence why the void ethereals are outcasts among the other cartels.

rotund prawn Mar 17, 2021, 7:48 PM

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They're not saying that the Ethereals are Void

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They're saying that they were destroyed by the Arcane magic that slipped through their anti-void barrier

uncut vault Mar 18, 2021, 4:56 PM

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https://twitter.com/stiven_srb/status/1372592286048124937?s=21

Stiven (@Stiven_SRB)

Such a cool build number 37899 -> 37988 :D

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squinting

unborn glacier Mar 18, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Cx

dense plover Mar 18, 2021, 6:46 PM

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It’s just more 9.0.5

cunning fossil Mar 18, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Hmm

worthy kayak Mar 19, 2021, 4:24 AM

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i mean, we're in the 9.0.5 spoilers tho
it should be 9.1 but there are none yet

WHERE ARE YOU DATA MINERS? the leaks

dense plover Mar 19, 2021, 4:48 AM

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worthy kayak i mean, we're in the 9.0.5 spoilers tho it should be 9.1 but there are none yet ...

there has to be data to mine

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we cant pull builds out of our asses

rotund prawn Mar 19, 2021, 4:52 AM

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Data miner need ptrs to mine from

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Unless someone leaks data

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And people generally don't

dense plover Mar 19, 2021, 4:54 AM

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i dont think there have ever been leaks except from blizz themselves, like with chains of domination

austere gazelle Mar 19, 2021, 8:40 AM

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there have been. On certain discord/forums... But the guys who leak stuff are quickly banned / sued and there is the MIB of Blizzard enforcing their policies soon after

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( WoD was leaked, for example )

stiff vector Mar 19, 2021, 9:48 AM

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That wasn't actually data though

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So contextually peach is still correct

austere gazelle Mar 19, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Well, Chain of Domination data have not been leaked... only the preview made by blizz

dense plover Mar 19, 2021, 2:10 PM

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that was the closest we have ever gotten to leaked data

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it had art, screenshots, expansion info

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it is probably the closest we will ever get

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:14 AM

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I know this is a few weeks late, but just so I may insert my opinion on the denathrius conversation. If I understand what was said, I don't think that Denathrius is ever going to be a ally, I speculate that if he isn't killed in the raid wing (Haven't seen it so I'm not sure how accurate my speculation is.), he may swoop in and betray the jailer before the heroes kill him, and become a even bigger threat? Again I'm not sure what has happened as of late, but I personally think that would be a pretty cool twist.

And if he did die, it would be interesting if he somehow found a way back alive, i.e. Sylvanas resurrecting him for her own devices.

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:19 AM

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He is trapped in a sword

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There is a near 0 chance he won’t show up until later

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They didn’t decide to have denathrius survive until relatively recently, and the bosses for 9.1 were decided a long time ago

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:20 AM

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plucky needle I know this is a few weeks late, but just so I may insert my opinion on the dena...

Also, jailer isn’t a raid boss yet - he is the final boss for the last raid

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Ohhh I see

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~~I haven't been on wow since the start of sl so I am out of the loop~~

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Well now you know

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Denathrius is trapped, bosses for 9.1 raid were already decided, jailer is final boss of the expac

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:23 AM

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Well then....

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:23 AM

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Shadowlands is to wrath as legion was to TBC

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:23 AM

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So there is still a option for Denathrius to come back and backstab the jailer?

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:24 AM

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The jailer is our arthas

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Taunting us the whole expac until the end

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Why would he backstab the jailer?

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How would that help him?

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:24 AM

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I would assume he would do it for power

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:25 AM

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How would that work though? He was helping the jailer

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:25 AM

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That's a good point

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Denathrius helped the jailer get anima in exchange for power

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Backstabbing wouldn’t help him

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And again, currently trapped in a sword

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They’re saving him for later - potentially next expac

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Who trapped him in a sword?

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

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We did

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It’s the ending to the raid

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Ooohhh I see

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

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We trap him in remornia

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Quick somewhat relevant question

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If I remember correct Frostmourne was sentient right?

dense plover Mar 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

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No

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It had souls in it

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Including pieces of nerzhul and arthas

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Not sentient

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

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Gotcha

austere gazelle Mar 22, 2021, 10:31 AM

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Yeah seeing that they didn't intended to keep Denathrius around but went soft with him and kept him because he was awesome , either they changed their plan about him for Shadowlands, or it was made late in the dev cycle and they'll keep him for future expack

terse patrol Mar 22, 2021, 2:43 PM

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I could see a situation where Denathrius knew he was just a tool for the Jailer and used the Jailer for his own goals.

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And will turn on him when it becomes convenient.

austere gazelle Mar 22, 2021, 4:55 PM

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well, at the very least they can make him flee and assume the direct command of the Dreadlords army

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which will be a huge problem

plucky needle Mar 22, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I was kind going for what Honkers said, but was too tired to actually say it XD

tropic trail Mar 23, 2021, 2:48 PM

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is there a link between denathrius and the dreadlords

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nathrezim, nathria, ok so there clearly is i guess it just remains to be seen what it is

rotund prawn Mar 23, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Yeah there clearly is

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There's also a book on Dreadlords somewhere

tropic trail Mar 23, 2021, 2:52 PM

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i feel like if hes one of the eternal ones the dreadlords couldve been made in his image or something

austere gazelle Mar 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Denathrius sired the Dreadlords

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so he may have created them, Z'rali called Denathrius the Master of the Dreadlords. There is a link between them

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Dreadlords = Unseen Guests / Unseen One

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I lay broken on the battlefield. Until the unseen ones found me. Preserved me. To serve as a vessel for their Sire's rage.

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Denathrius' title is " The Sire " or " The Master " and the last clue is in the "Enemy Infiltration, preface :
To our most wondrous and resplendent Master
This is, after all, the solemn duty for which you sired us. As you are fond of saying: Once a desire is understood, it can be exploited.

austere gazelle Mar 25, 2021, 1:57 PM

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https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/57405-insiders-at-blizzard-apparently-worried-about-91-delay/

Icy Veins

Insiders at Blizzard Apparently Worried About 9.1 Delay

Were all anxious to see 9.1, the first major patch of Shadowlands arrive and are aware that it will take a while, but we really dont know what a while might mean. The recent lack of the 9.1 PTR, which was said to be coming very soon after 9.0.5 released has many worried, and apparently there are ...

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How utterly predictable.. !

vestal wing Mar 25, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Apparently they didn't understand what was said in the clip lmao

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"People at Blizzard, they are worried that, if 9.1 will take as long as they predict it will, that even by 9.1, that people ain't don't want to play it, because of how long it takes." Towelliee in this clip.
There is not a single mention of a worry about further delays, but rather that it may come at a point where people don#t want to play it, because it's too late.

austere gazelle Mar 25, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Yeah I agree about this "delay" part, but the scheduled release of 9.1 is behind what the planned at first IMO.

dense plover Mar 25, 2021, 3:39 PM

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sticking IMO at the end of something doesnt make it true

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you cant have an opinion about a factual thing

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thats the same as saying "IMO the earth is flat" or "IMO gravity is controlled by hamsters running around inside the hollow earth"

austere gazelle Mar 25, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I dont get your point. I'm saying " IMO " because I think it was delayed internally but before Blizzconline. It's a guess, not a fact. I have the opinion that it was maybe delayed, I don't have a fact to back it up, about it, so It only engage my opinion, my point of vue, so what's the problem?

terse patrol Mar 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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It does feel like they’re behind schedule, and if it keeps behind schedule, they may be forced to cut 9.3 in favor of next expansion. I doubt it’d get that bad, though.

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If anything we’d get a lackluster final patch like we did in 8.3

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#totallynotareturnofthekingripoffcinematic

worthy kayak Mar 25, 2021, 6:21 PM

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What i dont understand is what PTR stands for
It's supposed to be PUBLIC TEST REALM but we don't get to test much of anything. Changes happen in the background, they come up with stuff and release on live without testing.

Class balance, let's say they have ideas like what they did to rogue, why keep it to themselves in books and not just... use the fkin PTR for that. WHo cares if it's glitchy, that's how LoL PBE server works, the place is buggy asf but you see changes almost daily, they use the testing realm as it should, and you get all currencies maxed to try, not this garbage where you have to copy a character lv60 from retail or use the lv48 trial and somehow level up 12 levels in PTR when it's empty asf for lower dungeons. It's ridiculous

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Why don't they add an NPC to level up to 60? i know it's possible, (blablabla) and there were NPC to set XP gains or flat out level up to whatever level you wanted. You were given a max lv character right out of the bat, with free gear made for your spec. I remember (blablabla) where you got all the stuff at the start to try and see how was your class on endgame, and then, back to (blablabla) to play it as intended . Why is it so hard to use the PTR as a PTR and allow ppl to test things?

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let's say, hunter survival, they can make a new spell with placeholder name and animation from other abilty to test performance, like they did for Assa rogue with a passive. Then allow easy access of addons to PTR realm and make simulations, player gameplay and feedback, if it's good or not to scrap, redesign or add as it is. That's how a PTR should work, constantly adding and removing stuff, bc who cares it's PTR, go crazy, make changes over the top and see player reaction, they are the best at balancing stuff, not Devs, they have a community that runs the math and calculations in a day of release, make predictions and deeper analysis than any dev can, it's stupid to waste such a dedicated community with a slow PTR cycle

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If they have 10% of PTR, then release it on PTR, and keep adding as new stuff comes in, why the need to hold back on PTR¿

elder otter Mar 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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worthy kayak What i dont understand is what PTR stands for It's supposed to be PUBLIC TEST RE...

Please remove all mentions and references to private/pirate servers from your post or I'll have to delete it.

dense plover Mar 25, 2021, 7:16 PM

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The rogue stuff was generally tested on ptr with positive feedback

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Percentage changes are almost never done on ptr because they can be undone just as easily and the data they get on live is far more effective when making those changes

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Also they never make major changes mid expac

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That’s the modern design ethos

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If you don’t like how a class plays you have to wait until the next expac

glass verge Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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dense plover sticking IMO at the end of something doesnt make it true

He said he thinks it’s taking too long how is that not a valid opinion 😂

limpid spade Mar 27, 2021, 6:54 PM

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just had a horrifying idea

what if they treat the Tyrande vs Sylvanas chapter like ||Last of Us 2||

pulsar minnow Mar 27, 2021, 7:39 PM

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So... they just fight and nothing happens in the end?

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I don't think that'll happen

dense plover Mar 27, 2021, 7:57 PM

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My bet right now - tyrande goes to kill sylvanas and her student jumps in front of the arrow to stop tyrande from dying to the power from the elune thing

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Then sylvanas takes her soul or something and raises her against her will - cementing sylvanas as a villain

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Or - she doesn’t raise her and her soul goes to ardenweald and this makes tyrande realize her crusade has only hurt those around her

olive wharf Mar 27, 2021, 8:00 PM

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her soul can't go anywhere cus arbiter is kaput

rotund prawn Mar 27, 2021, 8:01 PM

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I mean if she's sent to the Maw that's even worse

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Though we could have a quest to rescue her

olive wharf Mar 27, 2021, 8:02 PM

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or just anduin 2.0 in 9.2 and few hints in 9.1 about her whearabouts

tough forge Mar 27, 2021, 9:56 PM

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I was curious of when new raid will come out? In 9.0.5 or 9.1? And what will it be? For example maldraxxus or bastion or..?

uncut vault Mar 27, 2021, 10:06 PM

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We just got 9.0.5, 9.1 is the next content patch

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It got announced at blizzcon, we’re invading the maw and the raid is the innermost sanctum of Torghast

tough forge Mar 27, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Ooh, I see. I just returned to wow in yesterday.

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:50 AM

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It's mindblowing that we're already basically defeating Torghast in 9.1

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Wonder what they plan later. What if the Jailer goes to Azeroth itself? We know that the Scourge is a thing that's ongoing back on Azeroth, and they're attacking everywhere on the planet apparently.

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@uncut vault

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Would make sense to go back to Azeroth to stop the Scourge once and for all.

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(Or crown a new Lich King.)

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I assume stop the Scourge, because the Covenants aren't going to want Maw magic at work outside the Shadowlands.

pulsar minnow Mar 28, 2021, 3:04 AM

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terse patrol It's mindblowing that we're already basically defeating Torghast in 9.1

Well, Torghast is simply the Jailer’s prison. He’s probably gonna break free, and we know that the Jailer is searching for a sepulcher or some source of power. He could be going after a seat of the First Ones. Like a Seat of the Pantheon equivalent.

dense plover Mar 28, 2021, 3:22 AM

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terse patrol It's mindblowing that we're already basically defeating Torghast in 9.1

except, ya know, we dont have to win

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like - the first time we go to icecrown, we literally lose

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theyre gonna repeat that

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and have us lose the first time

pulsar minnow Mar 28, 2021, 4:24 AM

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dense plover theyre gonna repeat that

So we just do torghast again? sounds boring

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If the world is changing in a significant manner, the Jailer is probably breaking free. That's where the story has been leading

rotund prawn Mar 28, 2021, 4:27 AM

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No we're not doing torghast, we're doing the sanctum of domination or w/ever

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Like the top of Torghast

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It's not just Torghast

pulsar minnow Mar 28, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Yeah I know. I'm just saying that I doubt we will return to the Maw after the Sanctum of Domination

dense plover Mar 28, 2021, 5:07 AM

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i very much doubt that

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we will 100% return to the maw

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its just going to be changed significantly

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like vale or tanaan

meager zodiac Mar 28, 2021, 6:14 AM

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so like are there any eminent signs of 9. 1 ptr ?

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or is it still months away

austere gazelle Mar 28, 2021, 10:23 AM

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As long as there are no ptr, count one month min before 9.1 ( ptr last at least one month )

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As for the follow up of 9.1 , there is a possibility that Thorgast will move from the maw to Azeroth. We will still have to go to the Maw to go to Thorgast

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( after all, the jailer didnt open a path to azeroth for nothing )

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:13 PM

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terse patrol Wonder what they plan later. What if the Jailer goes to Azeroth itself? We know...

My thoughts are the final raid is a revamped ICC

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The Jailer succeeds with tethering the Maw to Azeroth, Maw Forces begin to pour out of ICC, we have to venture back into ICC, face the Generals of the Mawsworn army and take out the Jailer at the Frozen Throne

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:15 PM

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That would save them dev time I suppose.

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Use the classic layout with some new assets.

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Basically

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Wonder what the plotline stinger leading to next expansion will be.

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:16 PM

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It would be a good chance to get revamped ICC Tier sets like they with with the Tier 6 sets from TBC in Legion

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:17 PM

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BFA was full of hints to Shadowlands.

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(Sylvanas harping about death.)

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Shadowlands is littered with the Light vs Void stuff, and it started with Turalyon being regent of Stormwind.

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Think we’ll be getting some sort of Light based thing.

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:19 PM

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"The Golden one claims a vacant throne"

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:19 PM

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He’ll bring only darkness ye

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Yrel and her Light Nazi army

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x3

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Makes me think he teams up with the Scarlets, who see renewed membership with the Scourge running rampant.

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The return of the Scourge is the perfect recruiting tool for the Scarlets.

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Yup

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I'd like to see who this fake heir they claim to be harboring

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Turalyon is a hair naive, and blinded by the Light. He believes Lordaeron should be in Alliance hands, so I could see him being swayed by a faction of his countrymen.

unborn glacier Mar 28, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I doubt Turalyon even knows about all the stuff the Scarlets did, so I have zero doubt, he would definitely ally with them

terse patrol Mar 28, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I’m sure someone would tell him.

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But I could see him thinking they’ve changed.

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And who knows, maybe they aren’t dreadlord controlled anymore and are just zealots.

pulsar minnow Mar 28, 2021, 2:55 PM

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terse patrol Wonder what the plotline stinger leading to next expansion will be.

Probably Anduin. His hair is white now seemingly permanently. He just needs to get a few scratches or some anima sucked out of him and he’s good to go as Old Man Anduin.

olive wharf Mar 28, 2021, 3:02 PM

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They did say he will never be the same after what happened

worthy kayak Mar 29, 2021, 3:58 AM

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elder otter Please remove all mentions and references to private/pirate servers from your po...

done, no mention to (blablabla) (not even here mentioned)

austere gazelle Mar 29, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Apparently some persistent rumors would out 9.1 around july / august
Most of those comes from Towellie

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:(

uncut vault Mar 29, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Well its pretty much just his one rumor

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It's possible but more of an unlikely worst case scenario

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june/july is most likely, sadly

solar temple Mar 29, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Yea streamers have been saying random months and dates but ATM we have nothing solid

ancient jasper Mar 29, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I worry it's going to be at least July or August with how little they showed of actual content in the 9.1 preview and 9.1 PTR not even being up yet.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 3:48 PM

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ptr is usually 1-2 months before patch

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ptr will likely start in april

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with release in may or june

olive wharf Mar 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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doubt there will be even anything about 9.1 PTR before end of may

worthy kayak Mar 29, 2021, 4:55 PM

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that's a tad too much, we'll likely see some either end of March, or mid April

Here they had said it'd take around the end of April, like 25th+ and during 9.0.5, which somewhat says there won't be changes until these things finish

Now as to how that affects the PTR well...no idea? but kinda sus

terse patrol Mar 29, 2021, 6:02 PM

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If 9.1 ends up being July/August, we’re entering WoD 2.0 territory.

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@uncut vault

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So let’s hope not.

strange falcon Mar 29, 2021, 6:18 PM

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To be fair,we dont know how the pandemic slowed them down,but them having to delay the expansion(unheard of outside of tbc) was a big sign

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But if we go from other companies both games and films

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It set them back many months or even a year

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Delaying the expansion leading to a full scale patch series delay wouldnt be surprising

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remember, they arent trying for an expac every 2 years now

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so if the initial first patch is delayed, but all the other patches follow the normal schedule, things will be mostly on track

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assuming theres more than a 2 month delay max

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based on shadowlands being delayed 1-2 months

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:09 PM

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why is this a problem ? not like you gonna lose anything by waiting a week or month more

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:10 PM

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its a problem from a development perspective

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this isnt us wanting content

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this is some people worrying that the lack of content might mean no 9.3

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and a bad expac

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i dont feel that way personally

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WoD had hints from the start of massive cut content

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shadowlands doesnt feel like that at all

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:11 PM

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At this point, PTR for 9.1 is guaranteed for April (at the earliest). Just 2 days left of this month, and we're in April.

If various rumours are true, WoW is hemorrhaging players as is. The longer the wait, the more players leave for something else. Seen many guilds go virtually inactive since there's "nothing new" to do right now.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:11 PM

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thats not what the rumors even say

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they say that its about average for this point in the expac

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which, yeah, is like 50-70% of peak playerbase

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but thats pretty standard

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theres followup rumors saying worse, but they have no source

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with Q1 earnings calls in 2 days, we will have an idea

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:12 PM

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dense plover thats not what the rumors even say

Oh, and you're assuming that the rumours you've heard are necessarily the same rumours I heard?!?

Plenty of rumours suggest a huge player drop since Shadowlands launched.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:12 PM

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they will likely say "wow subscriber numbers are" and then either at previous levels for the timeline, or above or below

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:12 PM

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thick saddle Oh, and you're assuming that the rumours you've heard are necessarily the same r...

where?

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with what sources?

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all of the shit i see is literal fear mongering

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:13 PM

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i havent actualy seen "real"numbers since wotlk

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:13 PM

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they dont do that

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they just compare using general terms

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:13 PM

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its all eye candy

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:13 PM

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like "similar to this point in an expac"

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or "below average"

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:13 PM

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dense plover with what sources?

You show me yours, and i'll show you mine? Your so-called rumours are about as valid as my comments, at this point in conversation 😛

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:13 PM

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oh, thats easy

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i can show you the Q4 earnings that show more players than BfA at expac launch

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and a lower drop-off rate in comparison to even legion

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thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:16 PM

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dull flame i havent actualy seen "real"numbers since wotlk

There's a good reason for that. Since WotLK, the player count has dropped considerably. They no longer want to show the actual numbers, probably out of fear that they might drive even more players away.

Blizzard's earnings call may suggest otherwise (holding steady, up/down from last quarter etc), but without the actual numbers, they could just as easily be blowing smoke at us.

Best evidence of fewer active players, is the actual activity in the game. Many guilds have gone inactive, or less active in recent weeks, and the longer the delay for new content, the longer the inactivity will persist. Fact.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:16 PM

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dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:16 PM

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dont forget that after wotlk came the era of many o there mmorpgs

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2009 up to 2012 was like 100 other mmos out there trying to compete

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:16 PM

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reminder that you cant lie on an earnings call

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its verified by the SEC

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violation of that is violations of federal law resulting in both mandatory prison sentencing, and federal seizure of assets

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its pretty much the easiest way to go from millionaire to homeless

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:17 PM

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dull flame dont forget that after wotlk came the era of many o there mmorpgs

WotLK was the expansion where WoW peaked. Fact.

Been downhill ever since, with either slight ups, or slight downs. Recent rumours (that I've seen, regardless of peach's "sources" suggest the down is bigger in recent weeks/months, than it has been for quite some time)

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:18 PM

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THIS IS LITERALLY THEIR Q4 EARNINGS CALL

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they arent "sources"

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theyre the shit the stock market uses and requires for publicly traded companies

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Actually, I do believe they reported subscriber numbers up until Cataclysm, when it had dropped to somewhere in the range of 8 million (down from WotLK's peak of 12 million). After that, they stopped reporting the actual numbers.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:19 PM

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again, Q1 call is in 2 days

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we will see where expac growth is

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my guess is about average for this point in an expac

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again, 2 days

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Say 2 more days again, please! Didn't hear you the first time...

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:20 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gi-fs-samuel-l-jackson-time-tick-tock-gif-8352665

Tenor

Tick tock muthafucka!

▶ Play video

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:21 PM

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I'm sure Blizzard would never lie to us, right?!?

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:22 PM

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they literally cant lie on quarterly earnings

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its verified by the federal government - the SEC

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Been over a month since Blizzconline, not a fucking word about 9.1 PTR since then.

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:22 PM

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i got a word for ya

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when its ready!

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well its 3 words but you get the msg

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Well aware of Blizzard's definition of Soon™ being different than what most would consider "Soon"

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:23 PM

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i played cyberpunk2077

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i know the word soon

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😄

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:23 PM

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soon is usually about 4-6 weeks for blizzard

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but tbf, i expected ptr in march not accounting for the delay

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Soon™ is usually whenever Blizzard decides to release things. Fact.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:24 PM

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so with the 1 month delay, april is a reasonable guess

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if it doesnt happen next month, i will absolutely hop on the doom and gloom train

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Blizzard tends to release things to coincide with other game companies releases. Soo... Any major competitor releasing anything in the near future, that Blizzard wants to distract us from!??

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:25 PM

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call of duty ?

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diablo 2

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:25 PM

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pretty sure FFXIV doesnt have anything soon

ancient jasper Mar 29, 2021, 7:25 PM

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They do actually

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5.5 is hitting this month

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Technically next, but yeah.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:25 PM

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oh

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then ptr then

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:26 PM

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When is 5.5 FFXIV releasing? "April" or an exact date?

ancient jasper Mar 29, 2021, 7:26 PM

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April 13th

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:27 PM

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easter is next week

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holidays

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:27 PM

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yeah that seems about right - its a tuesday

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:27 PM

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dull flame easter is next week

easter is 1 day off, and its a sunday and monday

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they already dont work sunday

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that has no effect on anything

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ptr on the 13th is definitely possible

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:28 PM

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So best bet (without further delays), is that 9.1 PTR will be either 6th or 13th of April (to distract from FFXIV new content). Just making assumptions out of my ass, but it's a good bet...

Unless it's further delayed, which reinforces the various rumours.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:28 PM

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13th is more likely

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5th is easter, so no one there the day before

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they dont tend to do ptr without prep the days before

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Easter Sunday is April 4th FYI

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:29 PM

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yes

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and then people get the monday after off

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usually

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:30 PM

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in europe we do

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😛

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:30 PM

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But yes, 13th is more likely than 6th. Any later than the 13th, and the rumour mill will get added fuel.

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:31 PM

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they can skip april 😛 i still need time for my alts to finish leveling renowns and farm up leggies/stygia/gear

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Even if PTR releases in April, you've still got until June/July before it goes live.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:32 PM

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may/june

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ptr is 1-2 months

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:32 PM

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true but then i wont bother coz i know its gonna be 10times eaiser 😄

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flying and shit

ancient jasper Mar 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Ah, right, the whole flying is going to be quicker thing didn't quite pan out.. lol

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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dense plover ptr is 1-2 months

Depends on the amount of stuff that needs testing. 9.1 is suppose to be a pretty big update, so 2 months seems more likely... and again, with a possible room for delay.

dull flame Mar 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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new season new gear

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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thick saddle Depends on the amount of stuff that needs testing. 9.1 is suppose to be a pretty...

the delay is in the ptr getting to us

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once its started, its 1-2 months

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why would there be a delay releasing ptr and then a release for releasing the patch as well?

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that makes no sense

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:34 PM

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dense plover the delay is in the ptr getting to us

Delays can still occur if there are bugs that must be fixed before pushing it live. It has happened where they have a "Release candidate" on the PTR, only to revert it back to testing status, delaying the patch a week or two.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:34 PM

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yeah, but not a month

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and honestly, those are included in my 1-2 months estimate

ancient jasper Mar 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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I mean if COVID is still causing issues I can see things taking longer to fix therefore the PTR being up longer.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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that also doesnt make sense

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they already have their covid stuff in place

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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dense plover yeah, but not a month

Excuse me... I said June/July.

If PTR goes up on April 13th, then 2 months from then is June 13th. An additional 2 weeks, and you're in July. So my claim of June/July is equally valid to your claim of May/June.

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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im saying the 2 weeks is included in my 2 month estimate

thick saddle Mar 29, 2021, 7:36 PM

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And if PTR doesn't go up until late April, then you're almost certainly looking closer towards a July release.

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At this point, it's all just estimates and assumptions anyways...

For all I know, PTR goes up tomorrow, goes smoothly and it's Live within a month. But that's probably more towards wishful thinking than anything.

austere gazelle Mar 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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dense plover why would there be a delay releasing ptr and then a release for releasing the pa...

SL release was delayed despite a beta test, we never know what can happen

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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beta and ptr arent even similar in setup

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ptr is where the stuff is nearly done and needs to be tested

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beta is where the stuff isnt finished

austere gazelle Mar 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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They are similar in logistic. If something happens that threaten the balance of the game , an oversight, or a technical bug that is not easy to fix, it can be delayed

dense plover Mar 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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yes, but thats happened with ptrs before

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thats why i said 1-2 months

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thats including a potential ptr to release delay

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thats why they dont announce patch dates until the build on ptr is working right

vestal wing Mar 30, 2021, 8:27 AM

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don't be such a pessimistic doomsayer!

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thanks!

past ginkgo Mar 30, 2021, 3:43 PM

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do you guys think this week is possible? For 9.1 PTR

austere gazelle Mar 30, 2021, 3:49 PM

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You guys shouldn't be impatient about 9.1, the ptr can come tomorrow like in one month at this point

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I'm already in the state of mind that we will have to wait a few weeks at least xD

rotund prawn Mar 30, 2021, 3:50 PM

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There’s a different between possible and plausible

austere gazelle Mar 30, 2021, 5:25 PM

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Ptr in 2 weeks

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Official

dense plover Mar 30, 2021, 5:26 PM

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lol - april 13th

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so yes - FFXIV conflict

unborn glacier Mar 30, 2021, 6:05 PM

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LMAO

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Fucking Blizzard

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XDDDDDD

strange falcon Mar 30, 2021, 6:18 PM

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unborn glacier Fucking Blizzard

I mean,square does this too 😂

austere gazelle Mar 30, 2021, 10:19 PM

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there is a PTR update , maybe nothing

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( probably nothing )

dense plover Mar 31, 2021, 12:01 AM

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its the same as the retail update

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PTR update is in 2 weeks

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they literally announced it this morning

austere gazelle Mar 31, 2021, 11:59 AM

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Yes I was the first to say it on this channel 🙂
Was just pointing out that maybe they were preparing it or there would be something noticeable, we never know 🤷

brazen trellis Apr 1, 2021, 8:12 AM

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oh great... another 0.5...

young latch Apr 1, 2021, 2:21 PM

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So is the sylvanas model legit or is it a dumb April fools joke

strange falcon Apr 1, 2021, 2:31 PM

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young latch So is the sylvanas model legit or is it a dumb April fools joke

🤔

unborn glacier Apr 1, 2021, 3:07 PM

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young latch So is the sylvanas model legit or is it a dumb April fools joke

Facepalm

olive wharf Apr 1, 2021, 4:54 PM

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khadgarface

bitter plaza Apr 1, 2021, 6:27 PM

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lmao

agile depot Apr 1, 2021, 6:41 PM

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young latch So is the sylvanas model legit or is it a dumb April fools joke

tbh i believe it

worthy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Paul Blart

empty oak Apr 1, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Before 9.1 comes its be like 9.0.5.0.5.0.5.0.5.0.5.0.5

young latch Apr 1, 2021, 10:16 PM

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agile depot tbh i believe it

The problem is that blizzard’s story is incredibly stupid still so it could be true or a lie

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Goth anduin is real

young latch Apr 1, 2021, 10:17 PM

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unborn glacier <:Facepalm:672993030026035231>

🔥 🥂

vestal wing Apr 1, 2021, 10:21 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/T0kRk8T

Imgur

agile depot Apr 1, 2021, 10:23 PM

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they already showed sylvanas is showing remorse

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for turning anduin

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in that trailer where the jailer is hyping both of them up and she looks at anduin like oh noooo im the bad guy

young latch Apr 1, 2021, 10:24 PM

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I think I dislike april fools day because the pettiest people imaginable think lying on purpose is effective communication and that causing chaos is funny.

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And it’s not always possible to tell what is just a lie.

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And it lasts for weeks sometimes because things on the internet stay up lmao

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So I don’t know if that model is legit a lie or not but I’m assuming it’s a lie. XD

young latch Apr 1, 2021, 10:30 PM

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agile depot in that trailer where the jailer is hyping both of them up and she looks at andu...

Remember when cosmetic necklaces were a joke and they just weren’t real?

young latch Apr 1, 2021, 10:35 PM

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vestal wing https://imgur.com/a/T0kRk8T

🔪

worthy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Ah yes, now they can't joke... WoW player base at its finest

vernal magnet Apr 2, 2021, 6:53 PM

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how long does it take balance changes to appear on ptr?

vestal wing Apr 2, 2021, 7:01 PM

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2 weeks

dense plover Apr 2, 2021, 7:41 PM

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vernal magnet how long does it take balance changes to appear on ptr?

The same time it takes for everything else

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Ptr isn’t updated yet

uncut vault Apr 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Possible good sign for testing, Sylvanas’ encounter is nearly finished for internal testing and visual polish

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https://twitter.com/cydereal/status/1378083972232568833?s=21

An Internet Goblin (@cydereal)

Been enjoying a bit of reflection on the last six years now that this raid boss I'm working on is likely to be my last for WoW.

I'm moving to Overwatch on the 12th, and my god am I excited for it.

Likes

121

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https://twitter.com/cydereal/status/1378084674577129475?s=21

An Internet Goblin (@cydereal)

A few more UX tests. Some visual polish and tuning. A nasty Mythic hook.

Fortunate to get to juggle one last ride with WoW encounters with starting on the new team. Really motivated to go out with a bang. :D

cunning fossil Apr 3, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Interestinf

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Encounter design for OW. Now that's excitinf

dense plover Apr 3, 2021, 4:15 AM

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uh

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no....

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did you read it?

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they do encounter design for wow

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theyre moving to overwatch

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that doesnt mean they are doing the same thing in overwatch

cunning fossil Apr 3, 2021, 4:27 AM

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It's likely that they will be

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Makes no sense for a senior in a specific area to suddenly be moved to something entirely different

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Also yeah I read dw

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I think it'll be interesting for how they could apply their skills to the OW PvE stuff possibly.

uncut vault Apr 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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its a good thing for OW, the biggest issue PvE has is that their AI is predictable after one or two tries against it, PvE needs varied enemies with multiple mechanical angles, which WoW does well in its boss encounters

cunning fossil Apr 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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Big agree

marble tiger Apr 3, 2021, 11:44 AM

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OW2 is big on PvE so

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And encounter design for OW doesn't have to mean raids

terse patrol Apr 3, 2021, 3:24 PM

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How likely do you think Odyn might be the one to kick off the Light plotline?

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The Valarjar are a subversion of Bastion’s Kyrian, forged in the Light.

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@uncut vault

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And I think we’ll find out where Odyn’s eye went this expansion.

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And since he can look into the Shadowlands, it’s likely he’s kept tabs on us.

austere gazelle Apr 3, 2021, 3:58 PM

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We already know where it went

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In thorgast, the True Eye of the Jailer is Odyn's eye, an encounter for the next raid

unborn glacier Apr 3, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Just delete OW khadgarface

solar temple Apr 3, 2021, 10:50 PM

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But ow actually fun

vestal wing Apr 3, 2021, 11:11 PM

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delete it anyway

solar temple Apr 3, 2021, 11:25 PM

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After you delete wow cus its horrible

vestal wing Apr 3, 2021, 11:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-4880183

Tenor

solar temple Apr 4, 2021, 7:31 AM

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happy

dry junco Apr 6, 2021, 12:04 PM

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Time to change the name of the channel to ptr-9.1-spoilers

unborn glacier Apr 6, 2021, 12:08 PM

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When the ptr drops next week, sure

vestal wing Apr 6, 2021, 12:37 PM

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spoiler: it won't

unborn glacier Apr 6, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Lol

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Blizz announced it will tho

vestal wing Apr 6, 2021, 1:51 PM

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I don't trust them anymore 😦

austere gazelle Apr 6, 2021, 2:58 PM

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It will, even if not ready, cause FFXIV

vestal wing Apr 6, 2021, 3:09 PM

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too late

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all my friends are already on FF

austere gazelle Apr 6, 2021, 3:12 PM

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may they RIP

worthy kayak Apr 6, 2021, 5:49 PM

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https://youtu.be/h9E84GSbvXM?t=1370

idk, looks like a Browser game, like Runescape or Old Republic

YouTube

GameolioDan

Dan Plays FINAL FANTASY XIV | Part 1 | Welcome to Gridania

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Support Dan

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▶ Play video

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And holy molly if it's choke full of text, where's the Azeroth or Gridania Auto Pilot to skip it?

vestal wing Apr 6, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I'm pretty sure this is the #beta-ptr-spoilers channel tho 😂

unborn glacier Apr 6, 2021, 7:15 PM

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worthy kayak And holy molly if it's choke full of text, where's the Azeroth or Gridania Auto ...

Ffxiv doesn't have addon support. At least officially

worthy kayak Apr 6, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Ik that was part of the joke

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So much dialogue it feels like Hunter x Hunter

storm marsh Apr 7, 2021, 12:16 PM

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I wonder if they're going to change Blood Elf's tiara color to silver if you choose silver. The gold messes up the whole look

limber mural Apr 7, 2021, 3:11 PM

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if the other false pretenses of customisation are anything to go by, snowball's chance in hell

uncut vault Apr 8, 2021, 8:30 PM

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https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1380256231420399616?s=20

Wowhead (@Wowhead)

We have an encrypted vendor build today for Patch 9.1, Chains of Domination, hinting that 9.1 is coming to the PTR soon!

Previously, Blizzard announced they were aiming for the 9.1 PTR to start week of April 12th. #Warcraft

https://t.co/IU32BIbEDn

vernal juniper Apr 8, 2021, 8:35 PM

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when do you think we will have the build ?

dense plover Apr 8, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Tuesday to screw over FF news cycle a bit

silent urchin Apr 8, 2021, 9:16 PM

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whenever they're satisfied with whatever internal testing they do before putting it up

worthy kayak Apr 8, 2021, 11:16 PM

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It'd be great if we could test stuff, and i mean it bc whenever I go to the PTR, i can't queue into anything. The world is empty, no LFR, no LFG, no ppl in the maw or Oribos, so like, how can we test stuff when no one's there to test?

I entered on Benedictus but still empty asf.

Also maybe, we could get a level boost to start testing? The Great Push and PrV SRVrs show it's possible to get level boost to 60, no need to level in retail or use trial lv48 characters.

uncut vault Apr 8, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Those aren’t the things blizzard wants to test, they don’t want people just playing for free there

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PTR isn’t relevant right now, because al the content is live

dense plover Apr 9, 2021, 1:56 AM

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^

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they want players who have played 9.0

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to play 9.1

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ptr is NOT free wow

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they want you to copy your characters

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and test with that

grim canyon Apr 9, 2021, 3:11 AM

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It's directed towards people who will put in the time to test as well as give meaningful feedback on what they are adding or what broke or should be adjusted, not towards just playing it for free.

As for it being "empty": In my experience, it's less populated sure, but it's by no means empty (LFR and LFG were also broken in the 9.0.5 ptr until the day it was due to be released, when Blizzard fixed the UI issue in it)

dense plover Apr 9, 2021, 3:16 AM

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and ofc right now its empty

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theres nothing to test

austere gazelle Apr 9, 2021, 7:01 AM

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dense plover and test with that

it's mainly to test, but you can't deny that's also a playground window to lure ancient players from returning, as an alluring bait, I mean, it's also a preview of their next content

dense plover Apr 9, 2021, 7:19 AM

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<@&299347348847329281>

austere gazelle Apr 9, 2021, 11:59 AM

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what happened? 😄

dense plover Apr 9, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Racist person in Russian

vestal wing Apr 9, 2021, 5:02 PM

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he also tried to post that in #german but in there it was mostly ignored 😛

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I wonder why

tropic trail Apr 9, 2021, 6:14 PM

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He also spoke in retail last night

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 2:40 AM

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When will there be a Genn Greymane update?

uncut vault Apr 11, 2021, 2:57 AM

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what kind of update?

dense plover Apr 11, 2021, 3:10 AM

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tropic trail When will there be a Genn Greymane update?

what does that mean?

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:41 AM

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He's probably back on Azeroth trying to keep the Scourge in Northrend with everyone else

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Plus post-war management

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:44 AM

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I do wonder how different the world is going to be. It has to be different, right?

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I mean, the questing shows Scourge invading Redridge and such. That’s faaaaar away from Northrend.

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I presume the Scourge will only be stopped when the Jailer is stopped.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:46 AM

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I think that was just when the veil was first ripped open (SL's pre-patch) and since us going in we've managed to knock em back to Northrend and the Plaguelands

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We were holding off the invasion for like a month

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Which means while we’re fucking around the Shadowlands and playing with owl people in Bastion, hordes of undead are murderating people on Azeroth.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Again, pretty sure everyone has them beaten back into their respective places and are just holding the line while we do our thing

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:48 AM

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I guess one of my big beefs with Shadowlands is that everything feels very low-stakes.

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Disconnected.

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(Not to mention all the lore issues that just the Shadowlands existing as it does causes.)

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:50 AM

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What, from the universe as seen by the Titans?

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:50 AM

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I can’t think of any other fantasy setting where they completely revealed the truth of the afterlife and it going well in terms of the health of the story.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Like Guild Wars? Or Final Fantasy? Or Dragon Age? Or the Forgotten Realms?

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:52 AM

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After the Jailer is gone, what’s stopping people from offing themselves because they now know that the afterlife is bascally no different from their existing life, save for the fact they get sorting hatted into whatever Harry Potter hat place.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Hell, in Neverwinter Nights we get to go to a wall made out of atheists and our buddy is there

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Yes, but this is the difference: in Forgotten Realms, the gods are clear and present. Atheists are crazy people in that setting.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Also, there's more to the Shadowlands than what we've seen. We've only gone to Oribos, some of the Maw, and four principle zones that keep the lights on. The Shadowlands itself is made up of countless other planes and places

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:54 AM

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But in Warcraft, suddenly Light worshippers have found out there’s a good chance they’ll get cucked out of their desired afterlife in the Light and will be separated from their loved ones.

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That isn’t the case in the Forgotten Realms. You die, you go to be with your god.

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“Ah, yes, well. We want you to go to the Murder Zombie Land rather than the Light because fuck you.”

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“Wanted to see your mom again? Eh, nah. Go to faerie land.”

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:56 AM

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We still don't know 100% how the Shadowlands works or what the deal is beyond the administrative departments and a few basics. We still don't know all of the Jailer's deal, what's going on with the First Ones, the stuff about Elune also being an Eternal and sibling to the ones we've met already, etc

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I’m saying the people back on Azeroth should be going nuts right now unless somehow they’ve kept all this secret.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:57 AM

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They're probably still all dealing with the events of the Fourth War

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Think about this: if everyone found out if they died right now, they’d go to WoW hell, what do you think that’d do to society?

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Nobody would want to risk doing anything because what if they died?

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Everyone still has their own problems. Like, there's fighting going on in another country right now but you're here typing on discord about WoW

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Except I’m not 100% going to hell if I got in a car accident tomorrow.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 3:59 AM

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We're the cats, we're gone from the barn, and while we're away the mice could be up to some mischief

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 3:59 AM

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People joined the Twilight’s Hammer for flimsier reasons.

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I’m just saying, when we get back, I hope shit’s gone to hell.

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Light fascism or something, who knows.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:00 AM

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That could be a thing with Turalyon

terse patrol Apr 11, 2021, 4:00 AM

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If things are largely the same after all this, I’ll lose faith in the writers.

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:01 AM

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We could also be spending more time in the Shadowlands than what passes on Azeroth

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 5:21 AM

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uncut vault Those aren’t the things blizzard wants to test, they don’t want people just play...

yeah wtf is that supposed to mean? that's exactly what you're supposed to test. You wanna test legendaries, you get them on PTR and try on actual content like dungeons and raids, but you can't if those are empty

PTR ain't free, shares time with your normal subscription

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we think we 'll kill the jailer but... most likely, not at all. Just impison him again. He's just a force of nature as is the Arbiter, but for the damned, so most likely, we'll chain him again, in a "there must always be a LK scenario, as there must be a jailer for the souls"

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 5:25 AM

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terse patrol Light fascism or something, who knows.

Have you played the Mag'har orc allied race introduction quest line? that's basically what happened post WoD, the draenei we found in the cave escaping from Kargath bladefist, becomes the Crusader, convinces alter time Garrosh to join the light and purge the remaining iron horde from WoD

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that's not to say, the same can't happen in our timeline, of if she escapes from that time line

dense plover Apr 11, 2021, 6:37 AM

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worthy kayak yeah wtf is that supposed to mean? that's exactly what you're supposed to test. ...

first of all, no ptr doesnt share time with your sub

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secondly, testing leggos like that is done during beta

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ptr is bug testing and general feedback

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not core system feedback

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now - if new leggos are added, those will end up on a ptr vendor

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but ptr isnt a playground

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they want real scenarios

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with real characters

uncut vault Apr 11, 2021, 1:51 PM

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worthy kayak yeah wtf is that supposed to mean? that's exactly what you're supposed to test. ...

PTR is free, and what you are describing is what you want to test. Blizzard already did their legendary testing in beta. The data they want right now on legendaries is from the live environment, PTR serves no function for that. The WoW team is just one of the few live service developers that don’t shut down their PTR entirely between testing phases

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:02 PM

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dense plover first of all, no ptr doesnt share time with your sub

So you can enter PTR with no time available or having the base game purchased?

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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dense plover ptr is bug testing and general feedback

You missed 9.0.5 apparently, remember the legendary changes, covenant changes and ability tuning? Those were introduced to the PTR before live. If they were to add those without caring about testing, they'd have implemented those changes when 9.0.5 comes live without bothering to test on PTR like they do for the x% buffs/nerfs hotfixes

PTR is a public test realm, you are supposed to test that content works as intended: torghast, raids, dungeons, new systems and items related to it.

PTR is supposed to be glitchy and broken as there are changes going that can break chains, an example of that is the PBE server of league of legends or Testing Grounds for SMITE, you're handed everything to try, all skins and characters unlocked to play whatever Content you feel like but having to complete a survey at the end or send bug report

That's what a Testing server is for dude

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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uncut vault PTR is free, and what you are describing is what *you* want to test. Blizzard al...

Every game that has PTR that I'm aware of...has it available at all times , what are you talking about? I can think of SMITE and LoL as those are the ones I cared to check for Testing
There's also Heroes of the Storm, and if I'm sure, overwatch too?

Same argument, if they were not to care for Testing after beta of things such as legendaries, they wouldn't have added the 9.0.5 changes to covenants and abilities to test prior to release on live, and just set them for official live release like they do for X% changes, nor have the option to report bugs for all spells, nor give you soul ash for free and the vessels
So yeah you are handed legendaries
The real scenarios are raids dungeons but those can't be tested if you have to level up from scratch a new character to test it. You could just get an instant lv60 like the Great Push will have, with set items of the prior raid tier to test the new difficulty and mechanics of new raid, torghast floors and Korthia quests/possible world boss and rare mobs

dense plover Apr 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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You’ve clearly never played ptr before. The tuning stuff without giving you the items has always been the case

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They do raid testing separately. They set you to 60 with level 60 gear

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I've done 9.0.5 testing, not beta

dense plover Apr 11, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Ptr is totally different

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Their objective is not for it to be a testing playground where you can buy the items and test every scenario

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They want players who were already going to do the content when it went live with the characters they planned to use to do that same thing on ptr

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:19 PM

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It seems to be a place to test game updates, as open and broad as that. I understand you're not handed useless stuff like every mount or transmogs or BiS gear, that's not useful to test

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But you should be given the option to test a class, regardless if you have that one or not. Let's say you have 5 lv60, but you see lots of changes made to one class you don't have at lv60, it's foolish you can't make a test/trial character to give feedback on it.

For instance, i played a lot of priest in BFA, i know of the class but don't have one for Shadowlands, hence i can't test and give insight on the changes

Or hunter , recently i had a discussion about why Serpent Sting isn't working properly with Wild Spirits, but I can't test that bc i don't have a lv60 hunter, and trial characters can't level up bc the game is empty (PTR)

So I'll have to level up from scratch a hunter to verify if it works as intended or not, which is dumb

Like in LoL PBE, if a champion gets a change, you can just buy with the infinite RP you're given, or any new skin on custom games and see if it's working as the tooltip says. A comparison with WoW would leave you having to play PBE for days to get blue essence until you can buy the champion and then start testing...

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Or you could sim it

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But that's not the point of the PTR

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:27 PM

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tropic trail Or you could sim it

Mrbot still have 9.0 data, it's an external source, you shouldn't need to rely on external enterprises to test what you should do on a Testing realm

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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The PTR is to make sure everything is in the game as intended, and there are no bugs. Not to try out things to see if you like it

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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tropic trail But that's not the point of the PTR

That's exactly what a Testing realm should be for, to tesy

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Testing for bugs

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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tropic trail The PTR is to make sure everything is in the game as intended, and there are no ...

And I didn't say "i wanna play to see if it's cool"

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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You're missing the spirit of the word

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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I said to know if a reported bug is true or not

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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...

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Wut

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:29 PM

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worthy kayak But you should be given the option to test a class, regardless if you have that ...

Here

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:29 PM

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You don't need to quote yourself within the same conversation

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:29 PM

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tropic trail You don't need to quote yourself within the same conversation

It's to show where i mentioned my point

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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You already mentioned it. It's not your responsibility to make sure I receive the information after you've already delivered it

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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tropic trail Wut

Apparently not

tropic trail Apr 11, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Dude, the point is to test game patches, updates, and content to ensure that they're applied without bugs the way it's intended for release

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Yes... Like the change to hunter Legendary, flagellation to rogue , Bonespike, Flash Concentration, Flayed shot...
sadly i don't have lv60 hunter, rogue or Priest z aka i can't test until I level up 3 lv60 alts to copy to PTR, if by then it's still on test and not released

meager zodiac Apr 11, 2021, 5:20 PM

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So i saw that ptr could possibly come out tomorrow?

uncut vault Apr 11, 2021, 5:39 PM

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worthy kayak

It literally says “before we bring them to the public”

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9.0.5 is public, there is nothing to test on the PTR

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Until this week when 9.1 comes out and it will be plenty busy

dense plover Apr 11, 2021, 5:59 PM

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meager zodiac So i saw that ptr could possibly come out tomorrow?

tuesday

meager zodiac Apr 11, 2021, 6:01 PM

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ah thats great!

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the ptr rush is always fun

worthy kayak Apr 11, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Didn't they say 12th April? I know Tuesday would make sense for the weekly reset but remember the start of the raid test for TBC beta also starts tomorrow, it's likely 9.1 comes as well

EDIT: wait no, they disable the test for some stuff 12th but raid test starts Tuesday as usual

uncut vault Apr 11, 2021, 7:51 PM

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they said week-of, so it could be any time this week

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usually first days of new patches on PTR comes later in the week, but its generally all over the place for the first build

meager zodiac Apr 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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uncut vault usually first days of new patches on PTR comes later in the week, but its genera...

I know right bestie, the chaos is SO MUCH FUN

grim canyon Apr 12, 2021, 12:07 AM

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uncut vault usually first days of new patches on PTR comes later in the week, but its genera...

Most likely I can see it happening on Tuesday (or anywhere after tuesday if there's issues with the current encrypted build that's in testing), if they wanna sync it to the current reset (Monday would be problematic, because that would be launching a day before a reset, which I'd see as unintuitive in some regards)

dense plover Apr 12, 2021, 12:54 AM

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tuesday tends to be the day they make the first attempt if the build isnt crashing internally

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if it fails, it usually happens on like thursday or friday

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but i think theyre really going to try to disrupt FFXIV's news cycle and push for april 13th

grim canyon Apr 12, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Seemingly internal testing must be going well, since there's been no subsequent build on wowdev since the first encrypted one

dense plover Apr 12, 2021, 1:13 AM

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eh

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from what ive gathered - its more about testing server stability

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crashes are tested on whatever server they use internally

tropic trail Apr 12, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Exactly. It's to make sure everything is good before it's implemented live

vernal magnet Apr 13, 2021, 12:45 PM

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is the day upon us?

silent urchin Apr 13, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Maybe. Don't expect it for another 6-7 hours at the earliest though

lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 12:53 PM

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i really hope today is the day

thick saddle Apr 13, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Today is a good day to datamine! 😛

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Good luck huntin

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 2:49 PM

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https://twitter.com/shadesogrey/status/1381982531851984899?s=21

Anne Stickney (@Shadesogrey)

Really looking forward to y'all seeing patch 9.1, everyone's been working SO HARD on it and it's fabulous!

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Looks like it is today

flint oasis Apr 13, 2021, 3:07 PM

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nope

vernal magnet Apr 13, 2021, 3:16 PM

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why nope?

stone zenith Apr 13, 2021, 3:17 PM

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is it true flying is coming in 9.1?

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Yes, via the campaign/renown

stone zenith Apr 13, 2021, 3:21 PM

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oh sick

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Im hoping it's available in the PTR as well, but I'm overall hyped for it coming today

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 3:31 PM

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gimme 9.1 dammit

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I thirst for datamining

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 3:31 PM

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SAME

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It's such a tease to see the build's there, but can't datamine it

strange falcon Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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austere gazelle I thirst for datamining

Bad dog

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Though it's surprising that the build is seemingly stable enough already, since there wasn't any subsequent encrypted builds for 9.1

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 3:33 PM

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strange falcon Bad dog

dogs*

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 3:33 PM

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If anything, I expected Blizz to be pushing at least 1-2 more bug fix builds to their testing branch before ptr

quartz pilot Apr 13, 2021, 3:45 PM

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grim canyon Im hoping it's available in the PTR as well, but I'm overall hyped for it coming...

You think the PTR will be live today? I was just hoping for more 9.1 news

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 3:46 PM

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It's highly likely it could be today, even more so if Blizzard Representatives are willing to tease it, but it's dependent on if the build currently in testing is stable enough to scale up

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So most likely it's either today or Thursday, but so far it does seem good for today!

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My best guess, being a programmer, is that if it is coming today, they are likely testing the build for any blocker issues that can prevent a successful launch to ptr, either that or worldserver updates (Similar to the maintenance times that went to 1pm from the original SL launch)

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So if the above guess is true, we should see news within the next 2-4 hours at least

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 4:20 PM

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I guarantee they are trying for today to disrupt the final fantasy 14 news cycle

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Definitely hope so, I got everything ready to both datamine and update my addons within the hour, so I'm all prepped for this 😄
Just need blizz to pull the trigger in a bit xD

strange falcon Apr 13, 2021, 4:30 PM

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grim canyon My best guess, being a programmer, is that if it is coming today, they are likel...

programmer pog

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 4:32 PM

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It can also be viewed that way realistically, since my words are based not only on how past xpac's have gone, but how other games have done ptr's (Halo MCC for instance has blocker issues preventing release in quite a few instances)

Albeit, if the maintenance is indeed as long as I think, then it'll still be another 3+ hours before we hear anything more or see it on the cdn

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 4:51 PM

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We likely won’t see ptr until after 1 pst

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Exactly

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As this isnt just another ptr, but a major patch as well, thus takes more time to update everything to it in the ptr side

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 4:54 PM

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i mean

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first ptr build of a patch is almost always later in the day

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 4:55 PM

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The same was also true with the original shadowlands build too, so I definitely agree on that. Finger crossed we see it later today 😄

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 5:12 PM

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watch zorbrix on twitter

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he usually tweets cryptic stuff right before patch

strange falcon Apr 13, 2021, 5:20 PM

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dense plover he usually tweets cryptic stuff right before patch

👀

thick saddle Apr 13, 2021, 5:39 PM

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dense plover We likely won’t see ptr until after 1 pst

Quick, someone pin this message, so we can confirm if this happens. I hope you're right 😛

signal bone Apr 13, 2021, 6:08 PM

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like this?

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:09 PM

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O.o

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Yup

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My heart's racing for this moment xD

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:13 PM

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pretty much yeah

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likely means they are doing 9.1 and tbc alpha stuff

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Either final testing, or just prepping deployment, but either way I can say with 99% certainty it's coming in the next few hours

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:18 PM

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well

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assuming it doesnt deploy wrong

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:18 PM

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True, that or any severe blocker issues crop up

silent urchin Apr 13, 2021, 6:21 PM

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If it deploys wrong we still might get datamining

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:22 PM

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True, all we need is an unencrypted build to do it

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:27 PM

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silent urchin If it deploys wrong we still might get datamining

it depends

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usually the server goes down

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but if it deploys wrong, it doesnt go out to the client

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Any data is at least an improvement from no data

Also even if it deploys wrong, it still may show up on the cdn

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:27 PM

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b/c they deploy to the server, wait for the server to come up, then deploy to the client

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if the server doesnt come up, we get nothing

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:28 PM

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And you can download builds directly from the cdn easily (I myself have patched blizzget to work with classic_beta to get that as an example)

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:28 PM

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yeah, im specifically talking about failed server deploy

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where we get nothing client-side

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:29 PM

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We'd still be able to datamine it and learn more about whats currently in and what is not, so still a considerable improvement

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:29 PM

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no - we wouldnt

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thats where it doesnt go out on cdn

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the cdn we get is when they client deploy

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we have seen it a bunch where the server goes down, it shows as incompatible, but we get no data

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it pretty much is only a first build issue

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Ah I see, well a failed deployment while possible isn't very likely atm it seems, or will likely be worked out quickly

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 6:31 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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its usually the difference between tuesday deploy and thursday deploy

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 6:33 PM

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I'm.currently in PTR, so whenever my character is disconnected, the thing goes live-ish

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An amusing thing here, based on what someone said before about PTR being for testing real possible scenarios, how some trinkets are sold that are impossible to get at 226 item level 😂 so much for realistic scenarios

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Gimme my PTR

strange falcon Apr 13, 2021, 6:53 PM

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no

vernal magnet Apr 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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I guess its not today

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feelsbadman

tribal rapids Apr 13, 2021, 6:55 PM

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sauce?

vernal magnet Apr 13, 2021, 6:58 PM

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every minute we stray from godslight

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 6:58 PM

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not today, Kaal

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 6:58 PM

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vernal magnet I guess its not today

still 50+ minutes to go

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still not even 1pm pst

bleak coral Apr 13, 2021, 7:03 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

Tenor

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:04 PM

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its way too early

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1pm is the EARLIEST

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after 4pm, then you can give up hope

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so you got 4 hours

bleak coral Apr 13, 2021, 7:06 PM

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I'm in EU and i have no clue about NA timezones. Just remember previous builds being around this time 🙂

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:07 PM

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thats why i gave a time amount

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b/c timezones

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4 hours is still 4 hours

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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First build of a patch can take a bit longer than the usual mid-day PST time that builds usually come out, just because its the most amount of content

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:25 PM

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yeah, but by 4PST the chance of it happening lowers significantly

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latest we have gotten a first patch build is like 6-7PST

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but at that point it would definitely fail to disrupt the ffxiv news cycle

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Shadowbringers?

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 7:32 PM

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isnt that a DLC of ESO?

strange falcon Apr 13, 2021, 7:33 PM

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He's talking about the 5.5 patch for ff14

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 7:34 PM

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I dont know the details

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 7:39 PM

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So like 4pst is equal to 7EST iirc?

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 7:39 PM

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depends on the time zone

robust girder Apr 13, 2021, 7:40 PM

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just look up 4 pst and it will auto translate to your time zone

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

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Yeah 13th April

robust girder Apr 13, 2021, 7:41 PM

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atleast google does

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Not released yet apparently

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 7:42 PM

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4 pst seems to result in 13:00

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:43 PM

#

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Reset 14th April

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 7:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/glare-cant-see-blurred-vision-gif-15278830

Tenor

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:44 PM

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ptr is down btw

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:44 PM

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It's in Spanish

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:44 PM

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so

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hype

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 7:44 PM

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spanish?

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dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:46 PM

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seriously tho

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ablobhype HYPE

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Lol

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Accurate

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Funny how the world for black in Spanish is so similar to the n word that you US people go bonkers when someone says it 😂

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Still sad we won't get pepe lich king vs pepe Illidan

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 7:56 PM

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pepe lich king is gonna happen

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probably 9.1.5 or something

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good timewalking reward

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 7:58 PM

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hm

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Is pepe a store bought pet?

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 7:58 PM

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we have a pepe illidan?

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no

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pepe is found in your garrison

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 7:59 PM

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we have a pepe illidan

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but just for DH

lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Ptr down?

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Pepe is WoD pet? I have garrison lv2

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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yes

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ptr is down

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hype

lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Poooooog

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Lets gooooo

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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I didn't play on WoD, how do I get pepe?

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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play warlords

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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I currently have the Nyalotha pet obsidian destroyer following

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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do an achievement

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get pepe

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 8:00 PM

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hes in a tree in your garrison, just have to grab him

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:01 PM

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dense plover play warlords

Garrison lv3?

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:01 PM

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uncut vault hes in a tree in your garrison, just have to grab him

thats the temporary version

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you need the permanent version for the costumes

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[what a strange interdimensional]

haughty houndBOT Apr 13, 2021, 8:01 PM

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What A Strange, Interdimensional Trip It's Been - https://ptr.wowhead.com/achievement=9838/what-a-strange-interdimensional-trip-its-been - PTR 9.0.5

What A Strange, Interdimensional Trip It's Been

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:01 PM

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this one

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it is

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a lot

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:02 PM

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its not a lot

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isnt it basically

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all 3 raids

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a few dungeons

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oh, 2 raids

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and a few dungeons + wbs

lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 8:02 PM

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How long is the pepe buff?

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:02 PM

#

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:02 PM

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dense plover it is

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:02 PM

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1 hour

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theoretically soloable now - mostly

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Rukhmar might be the hardest choice

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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dont think the draenor world bosses can be solo'd

lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Ok i guess I know what im gonna do tomorrow

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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they can

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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oh

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ok

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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i one shotted them in bfa

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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thats pre-squish

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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even now

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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remember, they scale to 50 now

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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All for the sake of fat birdie boy

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I spent days doing world quests on 10 alts in my other BFA account, i can take it

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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yeah they scale to 50 but we're 60

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so

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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dense plover dont think the draenor world bosses can be solo'd

Bro u can one shot Archimonde

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I killed Rucmar while falling from my mount

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

#

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ptr realmlist is back

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realms still down

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once the realms come back we will know if they are 9.1 or not

tribal rapids Apr 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ronpaul-happening-excited-gif-4407969

Tenor

It's Happening!

▶ Play video

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:05 PM

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MAYBE

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:05 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

Tenor

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 8:05 PM

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dense plover ptr realmlist is back

That would mean their authservers up, just the worldserver's being adjusted now I guess

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:05 PM

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how do you datamine stuff?

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Extracting_WoW_user_interface_files
This is one example

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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is this just for user interface or can it be for model and stuff?

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 8:07 PM

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This is just for interface data and artwork, which is all Id need

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The datamining will go up to https://wow.tools as well

WoW.tools

WoW.tools | Home

Collection of several World of Warcraft tools (DBC/file browser, modelviewer & more).

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/1382062635689017344

Zorbrix (@Zorbrix)

Go forth and gather Badges of Justice

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eh

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that's

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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wow.tools is easiest

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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not what i expected

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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just browse the tables, the files

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etc

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im gonna see if they made any changes to threads of fate xp

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or just xp per level across 50-60

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:10 PM

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mossy meteor https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/1382062635689017344

thats tbc classic

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:10 PM

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yeah i know

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i saw a tweet and then thought hooray

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then got disappointed when i realised it's tbc

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i guess the uh

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tbc beta raid testing is up

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Apparently it is out

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:40 PM

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https://twitter.com/LimitThdlock/status/1382071178584584200

Thdlock (@LimitThdlock)

https://t.co/gczRRCivoG

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aPES2_Spy

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https://twitter.com/Squishei/status/1382071314610012163

Squishei (@Squishei)

It is time.

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:41 PM

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lucky one, nothing is downloading here 😦

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:41 PM

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well all downloads are phased

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 8:42 PM

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It is over 7gb

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damn

feral vale Apr 13, 2021, 8:42 PM

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7GO download

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:42 PM

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9.0.5 (38134) → 9.1.0 (38312)

lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Lets gooooooooo guys

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:43 PM

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yeah got it :p

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take your pickaxe !

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https://tenor.com/view/pickaxe-rock-mining-gif-17360301

Tenor

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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9.1 Battle of Ardenweald
9.1 Andorhal - Kyrian Chapter Scenario

meager zodiac Apr 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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YASSS

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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😮

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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gasp

vernal magnet Apr 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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its toime

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to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-

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duel

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Edge of Darkness

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mmm new Area

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wonder what it is

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:45 PM

#

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omgy

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:46 PM

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much excitement booois

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Maw Survialist's Token -Increases your reputation with Ve'nari by %d.

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Helgarde Keep => helya raid boss ?

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:46 PM

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No way she wouldn't be

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I mean, she was in the intro after all

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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lethal tide Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Guys I’m fcking pumped

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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austere gazelle Helgarde Keep => helya raid boss ?

9.1.5 maybe

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Hecks ye

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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they work 1 raid tier in advance

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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MawLevelUp dafuq is this?

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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looks like we're going to andorhal and Stormheim

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Hmm

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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the maw "covenant" joke

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Maw Level Up may be the ability to Mount in ht emaw?

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

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maybe it's not a joke so much

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nah that becomes standard, as we begin

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:48 PM

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@uncut vault I guess those old world location and previous Xpack are for the Tazavesh dungeon

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( except Andorhal )

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:48 PM

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oh I thought they said they'd make it so that you do a little quest to be able to do that?

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:48 PM

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7.3GB? holy sht that's like, all the space left in my phone

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 8:48 PM

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new maw

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Oh

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Damn

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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ooohh..shit

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That looks eerily N'zoth like

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at least in color scheme

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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cunning fossil ooohh..shit

Bellular was right

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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no he wasn't

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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When is Bellular wrong?

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

#

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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like always

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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lmao

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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mossy meteor like always

He's never wrong when he says to purchase TODAY'S SPONSOR, Nord VPN

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

#

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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mossy meteor

flexing that internet speed x_X supposedly I have 150mbps

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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poggers

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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hi doge

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😛

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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download 30% so 45

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those damn internet providers

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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wierd Actual is art

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Share your language contest!

Mine's spanish, cute

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:51 PM

#

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Mine's in English. BUt I doubt they'd have any Tagalog translations for WoW

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:52 PM

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they should

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Yes. You're right

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:52 PM

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me?

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:52 PM

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They should 😦

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/who-me-who-is-you-what-me-looking-gif-16213680

Tenor

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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realms offline

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Fat (yet exteremely thing) fingers

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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for me

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

#

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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ill be posting everything i find here

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Legless sylvanass

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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ok so they widened her non existent hips

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Big deal

#

I can see that in R34

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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not bad

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Primus!

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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ohmgod

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Primus? Were?

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Gimme my Maldraxxus dad

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Screenshots wont send

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but its on the wowhead stream

vivid galleon Apr 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

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i was just about to jump in and say PTR is up but im already late kekw

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

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thank god runecarver isnt the primus

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

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thank god

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wait what?

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

#

no music yet

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

#

what

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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nearly no sounds either

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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pain

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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I'm still downloading ffs

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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THey might be collegues

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old ones at least

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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vestal wing I'm still downloading ffs

same. Slow speed here

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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this is a big patch for not having many sounds and no music

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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OMG BROKER CAT

robust girder Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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The pts download is up but the servers aren’t right?

mossy meteor Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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wow

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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I'll just download it and lose interest before it finsihes because spoilers ruined it all kek

robust girder Apr 13, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Hoping those new covenant outfits drop today

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:57 PM

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looks like we will have some kind of way to enhance soulbind conduits

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theres a new db2 table

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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uncut vault

brind me toiler paper

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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mossy meteor <:wow:710197051962687560>

Show it

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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so many global strings

#

looks like theyre adding an event log

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not sure what for

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theres 2 types of power

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progenitor energy

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stygian fury

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and the tormentor raid boss has a rage energy bar

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text to speech is being added

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" WILL_TRANSMOGRIFY_BOTH_SHOULDERS Transmogrify shoulders together"

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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check for Tarragre

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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looks like progress on the sep shoulder mog stuff

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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WOOOH LET'S GOOO BABY

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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i'm 99.99% sure it'll have something to do with anima powers

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torghast style, im convinced they will have either the trash to the boss or boss itself having anima power buffs or smt

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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LOTS of text to speech stuff

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thats really big for the differently abled community

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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dense plover LOTS of text to speech stuff

unless it has typos

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Imagine if in the raid we collect anima powers

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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"43334 SOULBIND_ENHANCED_CONDUIT_TUTORIAL Enhanced Conduit slots increase the effect of your Conduits"

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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that's be neat IDK

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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I always panick when i read [ VERY LOUD SCREAM ]

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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"43862 VOICE_CHAT_TRANSCRIPTION_ENABLE Enable Voice Transcription"

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i didnt know blizz had this kind of tech

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Oh boy. enchance conduit slots. Like the Artifact traits in legion yeah?

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Yooo Thrall

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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"3866 OPTION_TOOLTIP_ENABLE_SPEECH_TO_TEXT Allows enabling transcription on a voice channel in order to see written text based on the words spoken by other players"

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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cunning fossil Imagine if in the raid we collect anima powers

that's what I thought, but not exactly anima pwoers, more like "gain X bonus" very tame

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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"43868 OPTION_TOOLTIP_ENABLE_REMOTE_TEXT_TO_SPEECH Enables typing into a voice chat window to speak to other players using the text to speech system"

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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YOu know what they say "We just don't have the tech yet"

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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and trash mobs that are like the torghast minions

grim canyon Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

#

wow-ui-source updating in 3 minutes

#

Pushing changes atm

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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"43883 PARTY_VOICE Party Voice Chat 1
43884 COMMUNITIES_VOICE Communities Voice Chat 1
43885 GUILD_VOICE Guild Voice Chat"

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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worthy kayak that's what I thought, but not exactly anima pwoers, more like "gain X bonus" ve...

That sounds fair. Would be cool though heh

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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I dreamed on smething like Crash Bandicoot games

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with a main hub with portals

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Voice chat that's neat

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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HOLY SHIT

#

FINALLY

#

"43890 LFG_LIST_WARMODE_ACTIVITY_FORMAT %s (War Mode On)"

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SEPARATE LFG FOR WARMODE

#

"43889 SPELL_FAILED_SHADOWLANDS_RIDING_REQUIREMENT Requires Shadowlands flying skill."
also this

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Noice

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

#

huh

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

#

something like this but with the torghast art style

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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"43899 CHALLENGE_COMPLETE_DUNGEON_SCORE Dungeon Score: %d +(%d)"

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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LFG Warmode queue?

#

what does this mean?

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

#

maybe challenge mode is coming back?

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

#

what is it for

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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dense plover "43889 SPELL_FAILED_SHADOWLANDS_RIDING_REQUIREMENT Requires Shadowlands fl...

Flying ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

obtuse vine Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Apparently Malganis is back

dense plover Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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"43914 DUNGEON_SCORE Dungeon Score 1
43915 DUNGEON_SCORE_DESC The sum of your best Mythic Keystone Dungeon scores per dungeon. Improve your score by completing dungeons more quickly or on higher difficulties."

#

"43916 DUNGEON_SCORE_LEADER Dungeon Score: %d"

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

#

???

vestal wing Apr 13, 2021, 9:03 PM

#

I dont understand

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:03 PM

#

obtuse vine Apparently Malganis is back

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:03 PM

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I wonder how that works. So you get a score for the dungeon? Seperately from M+?

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Or tis this an overhaul OF M+

uncut vault Apr 13, 2021, 9:03 PM

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huh, attendant from oribos is a boss

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Retrograde Fate - Defeat Fatescribe Roh-Kalo after surviving Realign Fate while moving rings counterclockwise only in the Sanctum of Domination on Normal difficulty or higher.

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:03 PM

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cunning fossil I wonder how that works. So you get a score for the dungeon? Seperately from M+?

they theorized about a score for torghast as well

cunning fossil Apr 13, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Oh yeah true. Dungeon threw me off

austere gazelle Apr 13, 2021, 9:04 PM

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you know what soft they use to see the model like this? an upgraded version of WMV?

worthy kayak Apr 13, 2021, 9:04 PM

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uncut vault > Retrograde Fate - Defeat Fatescribe Roh-Kalo after surviving Realign Fate whil...

FINALLY, i wanted to kill his ass for so long
WITH HER VOICE HAVE I SPOKEN
so annoying

robust girder Apr 13, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Wonder what the ilvl for the new raid is gonna be