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strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:16 AM

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during start of virus outbreak,you couldnt find non-outbreak news

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:16 AM

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arguably the best video game story of all time

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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sullen dawn arguably the best video game story of all time

last of us one was good

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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whats your point?

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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i dont want to get into an argument about 2

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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no 2 was amazin

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i mean you called out journos for not shitting on the GoTY?

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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sullen dawn i mean you called out journos for not shitting on the GoTY?

it is very abnormal and suspicious

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tthat one game won 95% of the game awards

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makes you think it wasnt rigged

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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oh ffs

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its decided by a panel of 6 people

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theyre gonna have favourites

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:18 AM

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yes,6 ppl which as you specifically said yourself,want pr just as the gaming journos

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lets not say that the industry is incorruptible

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:18 AM

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its not

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but tlou2 is not the right example

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maybe something like Anthem

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journos hyping it up right until release even tho they new it was borked

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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the tlou2 creative director (called by some other people ||neil cuckmann||)

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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or cyberpunk

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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is the biggest manchild

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on earth

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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no hes not

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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yes he IS

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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only to right wing simps

tranquil steeple Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

Tenor

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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anyone who using the word 'cuck' unironically doesnt deserve to be listened to tbh

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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everyone that dislikes his game or says anything remotely negative about his game

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is a "hater" as a blanket term

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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no....

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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and there is at least 10+ tweets

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where he says it

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HIMSELF

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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thats just 'gamer' paranoia

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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WORD FOR WORD

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

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and theyre not just saying negative things

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theyre throwing baselss, childish and in some cases abusive messages at him and the people who made the game

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fuck Gamers tbh

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worst culture on earth

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:21 AM

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i dont have the mental strength to shake your misplaced beliefs

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so im just not gonna try at all

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saves me braincells

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:21 AM

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youre the one talking out of your ass dude

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:21 AM

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okay man

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:21 AM

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deflecting aint gonna help you

strange falcon Jan 9, 2021, 11:22 AM

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deflecting for my own sanity tbh

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:22 AM

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i mean im not gonna force you to continue conversation, even i dont respect your opinion

young latch Jan 9, 2021, 11:26 AM

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i just read like 200 posts that aren't ptr spoilers, smh

sullen dawn Jan 9, 2021, 11:29 AM

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hahah

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and all i wanted was some new zones 😛

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developed into rapid reeebois screaming about abbey/tlou2

foggy abyss Jan 9, 2021, 6:55 PM

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I have no clue why y'all are talking about that here lmao

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Dafire is based tho

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Grin

strange falcon Jan 10, 2021, 10:52 AM

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foggy abyss Dafire is based tho

pog

rocky plover Jan 10, 2021, 1:59 PM

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i dun understand what kind of freedom does sylvanna seek

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¯_(ツ)_/¯ anyone enlighten me

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is it freedom about afterlife?

uncut vault Jan 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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In a way, yes. Freedom from the forced determination of all our actions unknowingly by the Arbiter, for the sake of a system that seems to exist to harvest anima

young latch Jan 10, 2021, 10:20 PM

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It's basically an attempt to abolish predetermination, which seems to be part of the canon of how the afterlife works atm.

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But wow writing seems to have this bad habit of "what if the not very good thing is the best option and the people who are shaking up the status quo are just EVIL and CRAZY" so I don't really expect the themes to be very good by the end of it all, lol. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

rocky plover Jan 11, 2021, 1:54 AM

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but it's interesting to see her deeds(or she) was thought to be "redeemable" and we all witness what it all costs(genocide stuffs).
yet Arthas who was unfairly sent by uther to Maw wasnt even considered(Yah he did genocide too but he's under frostmourne's influence(and his intentions are more noteworthy and noble than Sylvanna's), whereas Sylvanna's actions is by her own)

uncut vault Jan 11, 2021, 3:32 AM

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The narrative isnt saying that those actions are okay or redeemable, just that despite all that terrible stuff, there is a shred of that moral person that knows they were wrong, and could make amends for them as best she could

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which can apply the same to Arthas, neither of them are truly the person they were prior to Frostmourne

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but that person still exists in there somewhere

upper remnant Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 PM

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So when are we expecting PTR, iirc BFA's first one only came a month in the expac, I know they weren't going to do the same here because the Holidays were in the middle of that time window but I suppose now that we are in January it should be up soon right?
Blizzcon seems a smidge too far away to be the start of a PTR cycle

dense plover Jan 12, 2021, 6:45 PM

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i mean

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blizzcon is in a month

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so

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might be blizzcon

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might be last wing of LFR

dense plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:39 PM

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uh - staff of the primus has drust-like magic

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kelthuzad has the amulet on his model by this point

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also the frozxen wastes stuff is interesting

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there is no frozen area we know of so far

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for sure

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kelthuzad is pulled into the maw by the jailer - so he isnt done

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strange falcon Jan 12, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Maldraxxus raid soon pog

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Inb4 ^

dense plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:48 PM

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KT isnt in maldraxxus anymore

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its probably gonna tie into the maw invasions we will likely have in 9.1

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culminating in some kind of equivalent to the wrath gate

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where we definitively lose

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and learn how much stronger our enemy is

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as they taunt us

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probably with a corrupted anduin either in the lead or as a weapon

tiny stream Jan 12, 2021, 9:59 PM

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I think we are getting Covenant Campaign Part 2's with 9.1

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The Ardenweald campaign ended with the elimination of the drust threat, but the Tyrande and Bwonsamdi stories didn't finish

tranquil steeple Jan 12, 2021, 10:01 PM

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dense plover also the frozxen wastes stuff is interesting

most likely just named that as a callback to the bossfight in Naxx

dense plover Jan 12, 2021, 10:31 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

austere gazelle Jan 13, 2021, 12:18 AM

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What happened with the drust ?

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 12:32 AM

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my guess is theyre "ejected"

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i very much doubt theyre done

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they 100% deserve a zone

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https://www.wowhead.com/guides/night-fae-covenant-campaign-story-rewards#chapter-9-drust-and-ashes

Wowhead

The Story of the Night Fae Covenant Campaign

In this Shadowlands guide, we will provide a walkthrough of the Night Fae campaign, highlighting important lore quests as well as detailing notable rewards and Renown requirements for later chapters.

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"You destroy the anchoring runes shielding Gorak Zhar, and finally, you are able to defeat her. With her defeat, the threat is vanquished, and Ardenweald is saved once and for all.
Winter Queen says: The Jailer's power grows, and the Shadowlands face unrelenting peril. Stand ready. Your strength will be needed in the days to come. "

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idk if there is a cutscene

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nope - no cutscene

tiny stream Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 AM

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There is, but it's not like the maldraxxus one

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It's right before the instance and in it we discover the first gorak zhar we face was actually a possessed ara'lon (the night fae from the afterlives video) who we killed.

uncut vault Jan 13, 2021, 2:19 AM

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dense plover uh - staff of the primus has drust-like magic

Blizz uses the drust/argus visuals for generic death magic a lot, I wouldnt put too much explicit credit to that

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 2:19 AM

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wasnt sure

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figured it was worth posting just in case we find out more in the future

uncut vault Jan 13, 2021, 2:20 AM

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but kelthuzad does have a drust thing in his sanctum, so anythings possible

placid granite Jan 13, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I'm pretty sure The Blighted Lands will be the next zone

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That's where the Drust comes from

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And Gorak Tul

uncut vault Jan 13, 2021, 2:21 AM

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I kinda hope not, drust are hopelessly boring and 9.1 has so many more interesting prospects than them

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 2:23 AM

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^

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drust should be a side area

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like mechagon

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a small zone, not too big, maybe a megadungeon tied to capping off their story/tying it back to the jailer outside of muehzala

placid granite Jan 13, 2021, 2:23 AM

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There's lots of Mini Shadowlands zones

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 2:25 AM

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i fully expect to get a mechagon expansion to the maw in 9.1

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just because if they want the zone to stay relevant, it needs an additional unlockable area

young latch Jan 13, 2021, 5:39 AM

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so apparently everybody said that the covenant stories end on cliffhangers

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and the bastion players were the most unhappy with theirs

uncut vault Jan 13, 2021, 6:07 AM

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I think part of that is because the finale just... does literally nothing with the clearly built up tension of if the archon's ways are good or not

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it just gets dropped, forsworn are totally evil, and we kill them, uther begs forgiveness for straying from the path

strange falcon Jan 13, 2021, 6:08 AM

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Im still holding theory we get a raid in each zone

uncut vault Jan 13, 2021, 6:10 AM

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venthyr and necrolords got the best ending IMO, mainly necrolords. Threat is most clear and present, leading in to the next patch, but they got very satisfying wrapups of their current conflicts, and their next stuff is obviously maw-focused

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both civil wars are pretty neatly wrapped up, while bastions kind of just blows out like a loosed balloon

strange falcon Jan 13, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Inb4 9.1 raid is bastion

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🤔

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 6:34 AM

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9.1 raid is potentially kelthuzad with a maw necropolis

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again, 9.1 will likely be a re-wrath gate event where we lose

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either before or after a raid on the jailer's confidants via what will likely be kelthuzad

tiny stream Jan 13, 2021, 7:21 AM

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I feel like it's Maldraxxus. I think we are going into that floating necropolis (unless someone else knows why it's there). I feel like we might get a short challenge raid in 9.1 as well likely dealing with Ardenweald and with a bwonsamdi theme.

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Although someone thought broker land was 9.1 because the Brokers are a cool plot point but likely won't be too Jailer focused. So it would be the best time to do it.

tropic trail Jan 13, 2021, 7:22 AM

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Maldraxxramas

tiny stream Jan 13, 2021, 7:22 AM

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It would also explain why this patch could be later than most.

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because it's got another zone in it

tropic trail Jan 13, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Well, since Torghast is endless, they could make a raid in the Maw. But, since most expansions have 5 raids, I think the last raid will be there

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So maybe, a Uther raid in Bastion

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Then Maldraxxramas

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And then the Remnant of the Void in Ardenweald

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We never got rid of that flower in Emerald Nightmare

strange falcon Jan 13, 2021, 8:00 AM

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tiny stream I feel like it's Maldraxxus. I think we are going into that floating necropolis ...

as far as i know,the floating necropolis in maldraxxus

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is their version of the transport network

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but i agree on maldraxxus raid

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 8:20 AM

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There’s 2 and we go in both through the campaign. One is KTs and we give it back to sindane, and the moving one is part of the transport network

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I don’t think the raid will be in maldraxxus

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All the enemies from maldraxxus aren’t in maldraxxus anymore

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They’re in the maw

strange falcon Jan 13, 2021, 8:21 AM

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doesnt mean they cant come back

dense plover Jan 13, 2021, 8:22 AM

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That would mean the entire 9 week campaign was pointless

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The entire point of the end of the maldraxxus campaign is the jailers influence has been loosened from the maw and he pulls KT back to the maw

tropic trail Jan 14, 2021, 3:20 PM

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hol

young latch Jan 14, 2021, 4:37 PM

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uncut vault venthyr and necrolords got the best ending IMO, mainly necrolords. Threat is mos...

people seem to agree with this

i am very underwelmed with the treatment of the drust in ardenwealde

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i think we need a thros raid badly

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i just want to be hired to write wow, just let me do it, aaaAAAaaa xD

balmy gate Jan 14, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Are the drust in league with the jailer? Or does the drust seek its own ends?

dense plover Jan 14, 2021, 6:38 PM

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the drust were let in by muehzala

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who is in league with the jailer

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they teamed up b/c the jailer wants to destroy the realms of death

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which the drust also want to do

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because theyre trapped outside the cycle

balmy gate Jan 14, 2021, 8:11 PM

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TY mr🍑

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So if muehzala is the big bad leading the drust, and he is dead as an instance boss. Seems unlikely there will be any drust/thros themed raid.

strange falcon Jan 14, 2021, 8:18 PM

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he's not dead

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just imprisoned

balmy gate Jan 14, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Who are all the big bads? Jailer, Kel'thuzad, Helya...

strange falcon Jan 14, 2021, 8:18 PM

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you can see he's not dead because bwomsamdi has him present during the nightfae campaign quests

balmy gate Jan 14, 2021, 8:19 PM

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I really need to get my alts leveled, at least one in each covenant! I don't want to miss on the stories

strange falcon Jan 14, 2021, 8:19 PM

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it's weird because there is a big time-jump between the leveling dungeons

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and the max lvl dungeons

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like joining kyrian cov,and then you go to spires of ascension dungeon and you're like "waaaaiiiit"

balmy gate Jan 14, 2021, 8:20 PM

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That's a good point

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I remember getting the quest to kill Devos. (Little did Archon know I defeated her 10 times already)

dense plover Jan 14, 2021, 8:37 PM

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Well they couldn’t lock the max level dungeons behind the covenant

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And imagine if they had made the covenant story a leveling thing - what would you even do at max level?

strange falcon Jan 14, 2021, 8:57 PM

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also yes

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it is a necessary game-logic thing

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that only a much more story focused mmo like FF14 can get away with doing

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locking out the entire raid(or even multiple dungeons) behind a 1-2 hr story

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at max lvl

mossy meteor Jan 14, 2021, 9:56 PM

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tiny stream It would also explain why this patch could be later than most.

well its also because we just finished the covenant story

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and i'm guessing no patch until april-ish

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because renown cap (40) is mid march, and give or take a few weeks for people to catch up etc

jagged tapir Jan 14, 2021, 11:00 PM

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So I’m curious. Of all the covenant cinematics we saw. We saw Draka, the dude in the ardenweald one whose name I forgot, and Uther. I finished all the venthyr quests, but did I miss Garrosh somewhere?

thick saddle Jan 14, 2021, 11:06 PM

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I finished the Venthyr campaign. No mention of Garrosh anywhere that I can recall.

jagged tapir Jan 14, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Right?

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Eh maybe we see him in 9.0.5

mossy meteor Jan 14, 2021, 11:21 PM

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theres no 9.0.5

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9.1 directly

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x.x.5 patches are usually very very small and usually just bring fixes to systems established or a tiny story part

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(or a mini raid)

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and usually happen after big patches (1/2/3, with bfa not having a 8.3.5)

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I don't think they'll use Garrosh at all, maybe they'll do a tiny cameo at best

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he's almost like Arthas, whatever they do, people will find a way to be pissed off 🙃

thick saddle Jan 14, 2021, 11:24 PM

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And most likely, 9.1 will be out around March/April, with PTR and News in February. A continuation of the storyline, maybe a new zone or two, as well as the next raid. Would like to see some new Dungeons added too, along a similar theme as the next raid.

tranquil steeple Jan 14, 2021, 11:24 PM

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x.1/2/3.x patches are usually major changes/story updates, leading into raids, while x.x.5 usually opens up the raid, along with a little more story and smaller fixes

young latch Jan 14, 2021, 11:44 PM

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i don't think he'd be in the cut scene if he wasn't going to show in some way

jagged tapir Jan 15, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Right, BfA / end of Legion is when I started playing so I thought they usually do a 0.5

balmy gate Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Is the runecarver actually the primus, but he just forgot he was since he lost all his memories?

dense plover Jan 15, 2021, 6:44 PM

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we dont know

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https://tenor.com/view/no-idea-idk-i-dunno-i-dont-know-no-clue-gif-5178996

Tenor

know nothing

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rocky plover Jan 17, 2021, 9:00 AM

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now that we are in shadowlands whats the point of horde/alliance faction?

uncut vault Jan 17, 2021, 10:42 AM

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gameplay restrictions that Ion's said theyre looking to solve, mainly

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but also BfA did a shitty job of resolving things story wise and we're worse off in terms of tensions than we were pre-BfA

onyx laurel Jan 17, 2021, 12:09 PM

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rocky plover now that we are in shadowlands whats the point of horde/alliance faction?

hopefully they remove obth of them

orchid lodge Jan 17, 2021, 1:56 PM

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rocky plover now that we are in shadowlands whats the point of horde/alliance faction?

the fundamental thing that gave birth to warcraft, which made different story around, and the thing which removal requires digging 16 years old spaghetti code across 8 different expansions

obsidian turtle Jan 18, 2021, 1:28 AM

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most expacs are horde and alliance working together

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but the divide is part of the game

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 2:30 AM

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@uncut vault oh uhhhhhhhh

arylon is just dead?

that character went straight up nowhere xD

uncut vault Jan 18, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Yeah it kinda sucks, Blizz didn’t handle most of the afterlives characters very well

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 1:22 PM

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uncut vault Yeah it kinda sucks, Blizz didn’t handle most of the afterlives characters very ...

they're perfect examples of what a plot cul de sac looks like

strange falcon Jan 18, 2021, 1:32 PM

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i think the reason they killed off 4/4 afterlives characters

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is to have payoff from the cov campaigns

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sure,they could have built them up as characters over the expac

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but that's blizzs choice

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referring to krexus and aralon

strange falcon Jan 18, 2021, 2:12 PM

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edited

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 2:13 PM

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So mechanically, to me, It feels like they have used these characters as macguffins to tie them to the rest of the incoming old lore characters.

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Which is functionally understandable but it feels like a lot of wasted assets to me.

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I think you could argue that Aralon's entire emotional arc was already completed so he was a character that reached his zenith-- but they honestly could have developed a new character arc for him that the player experiences in questing.

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Like-- "I was willing to sacrifice my doomed friends for ardenwealde but it turns out that there were other methods to save my friends. Am I a fraud? I have to grapple with uncertainty now!"

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It doesn't even have to be that though-- there's lots of things they could have done with him.

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My confession is that I never really liked Ara'lon in the first place but I also feel like I wouldn't have featured him in the afterlives video if that's as far as he's going in this game which is only one patch in. xD

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RIP Aralon, you did a single thing of note, which is turning Ursoc into artifact power.

strange falcon Jan 18, 2021, 2:40 PM

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while i can totally agree they could have used them further in the expac

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i dont think there's necessarily something wrong with using them as "post launch emotional payoff to hold ppl over until 9.1"

orchid lodge Jan 18, 2021, 2:42 PM

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strange falcon i think the reason they killed off 4/4 afterlives characters

uther and draka still alive.

strange falcon Jan 18, 2021, 2:42 PM

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orchid lodge uther and draka still alive.

devos and krexus ded

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so still 4/4 xd

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 2:42 PM

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orchid lodge uther and draka still alive.

they're talking about devos and krexus yeah

orchid lodge Jan 18, 2021, 2:43 PM

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then how it's 4/4. If we count other presented it's more than 4

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 2:43 PM

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strange falcon i dont think there's necessarily something wrong with using them as "post launch...

I think they needed to do a little more heavy lifting emotionally in the campaign if they were going to kill them off there though to get that emotional payoff.

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Like, especially Devos.

strange falcon Jan 18, 2021, 2:43 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Ara'lon I feel like was wasted but I also feel like his arc was completeted before we ever met him.

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Whereas Devos didn't really get to finish her arc.

strange falcon Jan 18, 2021, 2:44 PM

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whether arcs were wasted or not

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is still to be seen

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with what they got in store

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for 9.1 onwards etc

young latch Jan 18, 2021, 2:45 PM

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This is true-- just as it stands, etc.

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IDK if winter queen can just revive fairies or etc.

storm marsh Jan 22, 2021, 1:39 PM

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What new customization do you guys expect from 9.1?

ionic sphinx Jan 22, 2021, 3:29 PM

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good one

young latch Jan 22, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Dunno! Allied race accessories are needed and would be neat.

ancient jasper Jan 23, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Allied Race stuff would be cool

kind charm Jan 23, 2021, 8:22 PM

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venthyr for the alliance and necrolords for the horde?

rotund prawn Jan 23, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Wdym?

upper lantern Jan 23, 2021, 9:19 PM

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If we get them as playable races, they should all be neutral imho

obsidian turtle Jan 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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uther becomes playable for the alliance and garrosh for the horde

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its the only way

dense plover Jan 23, 2021, 10:11 PM

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I think the allied races thing was talking about additional customization options for existing races

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There’s no evidence any of them will be allied races

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Especially with the lack of animations, armor support, and in some cases, gender

rotund prawn Jan 23, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Yeah they just seem like a weird option

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They're all pretty powerful and inhuman, but you never know

storm marsh Jan 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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Venthyr would be a wish come true

thick saddle Jan 24, 2021, 12:15 AM

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Pretty sure none of the "Covenant" races will become Allied Races. If anything, we'll likely see more existing Allied Race customizations. But none of the current Covenant races makes sense for joining either Horde or Alliance, since any player from either faction can join any Covenant...

Unless of course they repeat what they did with Pandaren, and allow Venthyr to join Alliance or Horde, or Necrolords joining either faction etc.

rotund prawn Jan 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Yeah if they do that then either they're neutral or maybe maybe maybe it's post-Shadowlands and they join forces with a certain faction

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But none of them line up super well with either Horde or Alliance so that's pretty unlikely

dense plover Jan 24, 2021, 2:53 AM

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They specifically called out pandaren and said they never want to do a neutral race again

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It created a ton of issues and also made developing race-faction aesthetic stuff difficult

uncut vault Jan 24, 2021, 3:22 AM

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ghostcrawler personally did, not as a blizzard spokesperson

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he personally disliked it, not that they would never do it

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I dont think theyll do shadowlands races anyways, but that statement was never a statement

dense plover Jan 24, 2021, 4:19 AM

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wasnt ghostcrawler a major part of the team back then tho?

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and if they wanted to add them, legion ARs as neutral wouldve potentially made sense

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at least for some

silent urchin Jan 24, 2021, 4:27 AM

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Ghostcrawler was one of the lead devs, yeah. The engine/backend stuff has moved on a lot since his day though, so what was hard might not be so bad anymore

uncut vault Jan 24, 2021, 5:18 AM

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Ghostcrawler was a systems dev, and specifically said that story stuff wasnt his deal

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But even if he were on the team that handled story or the neutral race implementation, its still his personal twitter opinion

mossy meteor Jan 25, 2021, 12:41 AM

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he was mop's Ion

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iirc Ion succeeded him

uncut vault Jan 25, 2021, 1:11 AM

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he definitely was not haha

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Chilton was the game director from cata to legion

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ghostcrawler was pretty much just the scapegoat for community ire

dense plover Jan 26, 2021, 6:56 PM

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vendor just caught up to live

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first time its been active since december

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potentially a hint that work on 9.1 ptr is coming soon

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apparently 8.3 hit ptr a week after it hit vendor. so now its a waiting game for 9.1 to hit vendor

upper remnant Jan 26, 2021, 7:30 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/toad-hype-overload-overload-gif-7868864

Tenor

silent urchin Jan 26, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Wouldn't surprise me, blizzcon is still a fair while away

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So waiting til then always seemed a bit weird timing wise

obtuse vine Jan 26, 2021, 10:37 PM

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That’s true, unless it’s a shorter ptr and the patch releases in like March

storm marsh Jan 26, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Summon allied race customization

novel owl Jan 27, 2021, 6:49 AM

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dense plover vendor just caught up to live

when you say vendor, what does that mean? in-game NPC vendors? i'm only lvl 56 but the vendors i meet basically sell basics/nothing exciting, or stuff I have no clue how to actually buy because i'm not good enough to have achived or even seen the currency they use lol (so guessing it could be these as they're probably the cutting edge of the game). just googled 'wow vendor' but sites came up offering, i dunno what to call them, but like professional boosting services etc which seem like cheating/against rules or not within the spirit of the game...?

dense plover Jan 27, 2021, 6:57 AM

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no

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vendor is a deployment server

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for vendors - like nvidia, amd, etc

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its where the builds go so that companies can test their software/hardware against backend changes

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and sometimes is also used for work from home stuff if wowdev isnt being used

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like how ptr is a deployment server

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and retail is a deployment server

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and beta is a deployment server

novel owl Jan 27, 2021, 7:56 AM

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OHHHH okay that makes more sense1

tropic trail Jan 27, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Wait

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There’s a new PTR patch?

dense plover Jan 27, 2021, 10:37 PM

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No

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Vendor got updated for the first time since December

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It now matches live

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If it updates to 9.1, it’ll be on PTR within a week

stiff vector Jan 28, 2021, 12:43 AM

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might be*

dense plover Jan 29, 2021, 2:28 AM

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📎 image0.png

dense plover Jan 29, 2021, 3:21 AM

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they sent out the testing emails from beta

strange falcon Jan 29, 2021, 7:24 AM

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1145!

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But what does "34" mean?

dense plover Jan 29, 2021, 7:57 AM

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hours probably

silent urchin Jan 29, 2021, 8:06 AM

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Mine said I completed one quest

languid yoke Jan 29, 2021, 10:14 AM

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I'm still not getting any of those emails sadge still don't even have the one inviting me into beta KEKW

arctic pendant Jan 29, 2021, 3:04 PM

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my stats aswell.

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strange falcon Jan 29, 2021, 3:25 PM

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But dont these emails also mean we get 9.1 ptr soon?

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🤔

arctic pendant Jan 29, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Probably going to be live after the event

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I dont expect it to be live this week or the following weeks leading up to it.

strange falcon Jan 29, 2021, 3:32 PM

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blizzconline is mid feb ye

dense plover Jan 29, 2021, 5:57 PM

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^

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9.1 will probably go to vendor at or right before blizzcon

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with ptr at or right after

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 1:50 AM

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ptr just updated

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from 9.0.2.37116 to 9.0.2.37415

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obviously nothing important, probably just testing some changes that could go live in a hotfix or two

silent urchin Feb 3, 2021, 1:54 AM

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current live is 37176, so that's still quite a leap

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although PTR content is probably much older than ~250 builds worth of difference, so doesn't mean much by itself

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 1:57 AM

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250 is not significant

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we are waiting on a vendor build

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not ptr

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vendor should probably hit before blizzcon

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Blizzcon is in... 2 weeks? I suspect PTR will get 9.1 on the week before.

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 2:05 AM

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week after

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blizzcon is friday saturday

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why bother explaining whats in 9.1 before blizzcon

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and then repeat it again at blizzcon?

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itll be like 2018 blizzcon

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theyll go over 9.1, 9.1.5 and 9.2

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not so brief assuming a similar style to 2018

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https://youtu.be/_4PXd042fkk

YouTube

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30-40% was 8.2

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 2:09 AM

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dense plover week after

So, sometime after Feb 21st then for 9.1 PTR.

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 2:10 AM

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im thinking the 23rd

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tuesday is USUALLY the day

silent urchin Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Blizzcon is generally more forward looking

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detailing all of 9.1 when 9.1 is upcoming within a couple months seems weird compared to previous

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I'm sure they'd have some, but I'd expect more stuff on the future

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 2:18 AM

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they literally did it at blizzcon 2018

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they detailed 8.1, 8.1.5, and 8.2

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this is the first blizzcon following release

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on a similar timeline to BfA relatively speaking

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it makes sense for the format to be similar

upper remnant Feb 3, 2021, 2:56 AM

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8.1 PTR was partially out before Blizzcon at least

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 3:35 AM

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yeah, but 8.0 was out for a bit longer

upper remnant Feb 3, 2021, 10:48 AM

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It was out for a month
And 9.0 has been out for 2 months (3 by the time it's out probably)

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 5:20 PM

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8.0 came out in august

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blizzcon was november

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SLs came out in november

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Blizzcon is in february but there was also 2 weeks of holidays were no work was done

upper remnant Feb 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Oh I was talking relative time between PTR and Blizzcon

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 7:10 PM

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The timeline is a bit different because of shadowlands being delayed and the holidays

uncut vault Feb 3, 2021, 10:23 PM

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even taking holidays into account, we're still about two to three weeks behind the BfA schedule of 8.0-8.1 compared to now, which hopefully is just a fluke of wanting to show it off at blizzcon since it's relatively close anyways

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and not a sign of the xpac's cycle as a whole

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 10:41 PM

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^ that’s honestly what I think

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They’ve potentially been testing internally for the normal amount of time and are just holding off because Blizzcon is in 2 weeks and having to explain what’s new before and at Blizzcon would be dumb and would probably make a lot of wow players disappointed to have half their panel dedicated to stuff that’s already been datamined

obtuse vine Feb 3, 2021, 10:50 PM

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https://twitter.com/stiven_srb/status/1357099153302712321?s=21

Stiven (@Stiven_SRB)

World of Warcraft Shadowlands Vendor Patch 9.0.5 Build 37447 :D

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🤔

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Yeah

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I have no idea

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My guess is that it could be 9.1 but not labeled as 9.1 because they know we are watching

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Or we might have a longer wait between 9.0 and 9.1 so they’re tossing us a bone

uncut vault Feb 3, 2021, 11:02 PM

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if the wait is longer, a .0.5 patch is honestly pretty good

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its something I feel BfA needed tbh

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could be a chance to get more QoL style things in, like some new maw content, new torghast levels, etc.

dense plover Feb 3, 2021, 11:04 PM

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I guess we will see

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:10 PM

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i think

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9.1 will be in the summer

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~june or so

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since that also means a new season of pvp etc

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and the current schedule of MDI/AWC ends in june

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okay it ends in may actually

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and i doubt they'd release a new patch, with big class overhauls and stuff, while a tournament is running

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:32 PM

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mossy meteor 9.1 will be in the summer

That estimate is quite honestly insane! That would mean no new content since launch (since .5 patches tends to be fixes/system updates, generally doesn't include raids/dungeons). 8 months from October 2020 to June 2021, before the first major update...

With Blizzcon in 2 weeks, we're likely to hear about 9.1 then and there. With at most a month or two before it's out on Live (so March/April)

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:33 PM

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november to june *

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9.0.5 might actually bring some content

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a longer questline or two

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:33 PM

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Right, November... they delayed it by a month.

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Still, 7 months with no new major content updates seems like a huge leap. .5 may include an update to some of the questing, but won't include Dungeons, Raids or new Zones. Almost guaranteed.

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:34 PM

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who knows, maybe it might

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:34 PM

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History suggests otherwise

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:34 PM

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7.1.5 technically gave nighthold

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no wait

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trial of valor

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i know it was something

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8.1.5 gave us crucible

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we've never had an x.0.5

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Crucible was a "filler" raid though

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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so was ToV

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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That might be true. Figured ToV was a bit larger, to be considered filler.

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:38 PM

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3 bosses ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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granted, legion was the first time they released the mini-raids

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and legion was the first time they had 1 raid at launch

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:38 PM

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"first" time? I think Obsidian Sanctum and Ruby Sanctum from WotLK would beg to differ... both were filler raids, post-launch.

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:38 PM

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(wod had 2, mop had 1 small, 2 average sized)

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hm yeah

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obsidian sanctum was at launch i think

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and ruby was post-ICC

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(or the other way around)

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Hell, I think Magtheridon and Gruul's Lair technically qualifies as filler as well from back in TBC... given how small those places are, and few bosses.

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Ruby was definitely post-ICC, because of the extended drought between the death of the Lich King, and the release of Cataclysm. The ICC patch itself though, included 3 new dungeons which were themed after ICC, which was nice.

mossy meteor Feb 3, 2021, 11:42 PM

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wrath had a shitton of dungeons lol

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3 near oculus, 3 near ulduar, 3 near icc, 2 in howling fjord, 1/2 in zul'drak (depending on how you count draktaron keep)

thick saddle Feb 3, 2021, 11:43 PM

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Game needs more post-launch Dungeons. Feels like every expansion, we get fewer and fewer dungeons. Raids is nice and all, but would like more small-group content.

tiny stream Feb 4, 2021, 12:26 AM

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I'd be happy with a .5 if it brings some changes to gearing is great. I don't need something super big right now, but it will depend on what's there,

mossy meteor Feb 4, 2021, 12:28 AM

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honestly the loot is fine

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the only thing i'd do is add some kind of valor/justice system for m+ gearing

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time 1 +15 to get enough points to buy a, say +10 piece

tiny stream Feb 4, 2021, 12:31 AM

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I'd like to be able to get more targeting because I find it often hard to get specific pieces from dungeons I want.

mossy meteor Feb 4, 2021, 12:31 AM

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tbh TR was a pretty good system

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(titan residuum)

tiny stream Feb 4, 2021, 12:31 AM

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Like my BIS chest is in Dungeon X but in order to get that piece you need to get lucky with the vault past a certain point

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And with 40-50 options from the vault for M+ dungeons, it's really hard to target a specific piece and a specific item level

dense plover Feb 4, 2021, 12:42 AM

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FYI, MDI uses arena servers which have different patch data, so they don’t need to match with current content changes. Also pretty sure they have done patches mid MDI before

prisma crater Feb 4, 2021, 2:01 AM

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ya i hate the drop rng

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i'm still using 158 weapons

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and my armor is all ~195 now

obsidian turtle Feb 4, 2021, 2:04 AM

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gearing through pvp and upgrading with honor is way easy

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since you get honor for losing too

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if you do epic bgs

vernal juniper Feb 4, 2021, 11:48 AM

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you can also use the campain weapon should be 185ish

royal garnet Feb 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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187

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raid finder level

deep pawn Feb 6, 2021, 2:07 AM

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100mb PTR build?

silent urchin Feb 6, 2021, 2:13 AM

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37474, a bit newer than the one that went on vendor, but probably nothing special, that's about the minimum size for a build so it's likely just baking hotfixes or something

deep pawn Feb 6, 2021, 2:16 AM

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considering the hotfix post right after, probably just them testing them

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I'm curious about 9.0.5, can't be that big of a patch given we're almost halfway through the season

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has to be something they can test fast over a few weeks, put out, and then get 9.1 on the ptr for 6-12 weeks

dense plover Feb 6, 2021, 2:51 AM

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the last ptr build failed when pushed to live

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so they pulled it back

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so this is probably fixing the problems

austere gazelle Feb 8, 2021, 12:57 PM

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I hope blizzconline will touch on the reward system

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the pve reward droprate are garbage

strange falcon Feb 8, 2021, 1:20 PM

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It would be "understandable" if both pve and pvp had shit drop rate,

But you have pvp just steamrolling with bfa/legion level of gearing speed

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And u have classic wow level of pvE gearing

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It is so massively evident literally all top players go pvp

solar temple Feb 8, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Because they like the pew pew

ionic terrace Feb 9, 2021, 4:22 AM

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another vendor build

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9.0.5.37503

upper remnant Feb 9, 2021, 9:12 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/ZdwH6yor5Z1yE36VWB

Giphy

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 11:34 AM

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strange falcon It is so massively evident literally all top players go pvp

Yeah and it's all more garbage than you can target the stats you want in pvp gear ( for those that use Vers like DH :p ) Which isn't even possible in PVE.

In the end they nerfed the droprate in PVE for what reason? slow down gearing ? that was effective the first weeks yeah, but with the conquest limit raising more and more PVP is becoming the main source of stuff so it become completely stupid

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They should make a similar system in PVE. first weeks you cap the droprate like it is, but as soon as time pass the " droprate " rises and catch the " previous expansion" level , so it answer the probem of having people gearing themselves too fast at launch

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Hell, they can even unlock bonus seals npc and more when the 50 first mythic kill is reached

strange falcon Feb 9, 2021, 11:47 AM

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most ppl are asking for currency system like wrath back

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badges of valor/justice

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 12:06 PM

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Yeah, valor would be neat

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you put that in end chest, vault and raid boss, reducing the incentive to leave if the timer if failed on MM+

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doesn't matter if a piece cost 1,2 or 5000 emblem

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at least it gives a goal and a target that would make each run worth it in the long term

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instead of " Oh, i did this run for nothing, no timer, no loot, 35 anima, lol "

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I hate the toxic ppl that leaves a dungeon, but I can't blame them either since outside of R.IO score there is no point to stay anymore

strange falcon Feb 9, 2021, 12:11 PM

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austere gazelle I hate the toxic ppl that leaves a dungeon, but I can't blame them either since ...

i was in a guild group 2 weeks ago,2 of us told the guildie with the key,that inviting pugs ends in tragedy 90% of the time,

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he still did it,invited this disc healer which was dogshit at his healer job,

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left after 3rd boss of sanguine depths +12

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we still finished AND killed the boss as a 4man group

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 12:34 PM

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yeah this can happen, but in pug most of the time when one leave, all leaves 😦

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I fail to see how its related to future development , ptr, or spoilers @tropic trail

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<@&299347348847329281>

storm marsh Feb 9, 2021, 5:32 PM

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the way they just casually posted it on other channels as well lol

tropic trail Feb 9, 2021, 5:33 PM

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And then is all "huh shut up"

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 5:38 PM

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yeah, rude as ****

ionic terrace Feb 9, 2021, 7:43 PM

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o boy

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upper remnant Feb 9, 2021, 8:06 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/rq8zGVOvNN7WD0QQqQ

Giphy

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 8:13 PM

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eh

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probably still post-blizzcon

paper veldt Feb 9, 2021, 8:16 PM

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there is a leaked still from a cinematic involving winter queen and voljin

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an HD rendered cinematic

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 8:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

Tenor

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https://tenor.com/view/john-mulaney-robot-test-proof-prove-gif-11992798

Tenor

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@paper veldt

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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its on ptr

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i was wrong

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they didnt wait for blizzcon

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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2.24gb PTR PATCH

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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the question is what is actually new

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Someone wake the dataminers. 😄

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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im working on it

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320 added 11893 modified 49 removed

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:06 PM

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that sounds pretty sizeable

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Let's go Troll and Draenei heritage

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:09 PM

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📎 chash.png

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theres leaf and tree textures

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they dont match up with SLs

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could be a new NE area, or could be updated main capitals

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there are new and/or repackaged SW files too

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hard to tell if theyre new or repackaged tho

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im just posting hypotheses from what i find

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im seeing new pandaren stuff - could mean new customizations or might just be an npc

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Pandaren got some customization in pre-patch but more would always be welcome

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:14 PM

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rune blps

📎 chash.png

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theres a bunch of these

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looking like there might be timewalking firelands maybe?

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https://wow.tools/dbc/?dbc=uimap&build=9.0.5.37503#page=61

WoW.tools

WoW.tools | Database browser

Web database/DBC browser for World of Warcraft

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two IDs there for firelands

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:16 PM

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We already have that though?

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Like Cata timewalking was two weeks ago

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MoP is next up for a TW raid

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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Looks like oak leaves so I guess more human oriented? If blizz actually pay attention to that sort of thing

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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Granted few people bothered with TW firelands cause who wants no shot at 200 ilvl gear when pvp is right there

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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idk

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there are spring autumn and winter variants of those leaves

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so idk what they are for

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:18 PM

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isn't TW firelands already a thing?

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:18 PM

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it is

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:18 PM

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maybe a fancy spell effect?

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it is

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thats why its confusing

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its unclear what the maps are for

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could be a 30th anniversary event>

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unlikely tho

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:18 PM

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Perhaps once again, we need the help with the stupid elements

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Can they even get to the Shadowlands?

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Or it's Thrall getting his mojo back and the new Firelord helps with that

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Cause those 3 we rescued can't spend all expansion just sitting in Oribos

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:19 PM

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two new mounts

📎 unknown.png

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Promotion 🤔

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:20 PM

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probably some kind of event

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Sounds like updated models of the fireland birds

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:20 PM

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both seem tied to each other

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and with the firelands stuff yeah, its potentially something

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:20 PM

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red vs blue themes sounds like some horde vs alliance anniversary event maybe

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NEW JAILERS_TOWER_LEVEL_TOAST_CATACOMBS
Forgotten Catacombs``` new torghast wing it looks like

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Most of the stuff in the preamble post seems to be old tooltip updates

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:23 PM

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I hate to be a downer, but a new wing isn't going to make torghast better

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:23 PM

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and a few extra tooltips to actually explain renown catchup

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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looks like some stuff for torghast and the maw as well

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"Allows you to see and use hidden teleportation points in Torghast."

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"Siphon Stygia from a Stygia Nexus in the Maw."

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"|cFFffd200Divines and marks the minimap at the location of Stygia laden areas in the Maw while the Stygia Dowser remains in your inventory.|r"

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also seems like a bunch of new torghast powers

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" Add the page to the Partial Rune Codex." - probably tied to the runes

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so more runecarver story seems likely

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:25 PM

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realms up, apparently

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:26 PM

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looks like they're retiring Squeakers mount?

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:26 PM

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wasnt squeakers the year of the rat>

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and isnt the ox replacing that

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they broke undead

📎 unknown.png

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:27 PM

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the old ones are still available on the shop

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you can buy the dog still

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:27 PM

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The Ox mount was given for free

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:27 PM

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nvm'

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ox isnt on ptr

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i was mounted on ox

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new great vaults icon on the map

📎 unknown.png

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:30 PM

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oof

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they broke something with the graphics in oribos

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strobe effect

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:31 PM

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can confirm there are new venari items

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:31 PM

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Yeah, saw people link them

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:31 PM

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the text i found was accurate

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:31 PM

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ofc I don't have any stygia banked for it

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the char copy seems to have updated, it took me from exactlly where I was on live while logged in

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and didn't fail half a dozen times

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:32 PM

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i dont have a "strobe effect"

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:33 PM

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📎 WoWScrnShot_020921_183310.jpg

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📎 WoWScrnShot_020921_183345.jpg

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related to this

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:34 PM

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yeah im not having that

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:35 PM

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I'm not the only one

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:36 PM

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I get very pixelated flamey thingies

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https://i.imgur.com/AiTHeNV.png

Imgur

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:36 PM

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looks like the changes might just be cosmetic?

📎 unknown.png

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torghast wings have descriptions now

📎 unknown.png

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:38 PM

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there's apparently a bunch of legendary tuning based off blizz post

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:40 PM

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torghast runs now show what boss they will have before you run them

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lemme screenshot

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oh wait

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thats just showing the current event

#

idk if this is currently on live or not

📎 unknown.png

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 11:41 PM

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YES YES YES EMBLEMS OF VALOR ARE BAAACK FUCK YEAH

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:41 PM

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It seems like they may have tweaked the secondary curve very slightly, my lower ilvl items (200 ish) seem to have gained a stat or two, while the 235 legendary has lost a couple

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:42 PM

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That's not the final boss

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that is showing an active torghast event

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chorus of souls

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:42 PM

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that or it's just because half the items had somewhat buggy stats and sometimes you'd upgrade and lose stats

strange falcon Feb 9, 2021, 11:43 PM

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austere gazelle YES YES YES EMBLEMS OF VALOR ARE BAAACK FUCK YEAH

Explain

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:43 PM

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its in the ptr announcement

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:43 PM

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if you can't get on wowhead, it's also at https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/patch-905-ptr-is-now-available/864321

World of Warcraft Forums

Patch 9.0.5 PTR is Now Available

We’ve opened the Public Test Realm (PTR) for Patch 9.0.5, the next update to World of Warcraft, which is now in-testing and expected to be released in March. This update will be a bit different from our usual patches. It’s focused almost entirely on systems, responding to community feedback about rewards, doing tuning that requires the sort of ...

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 11:45 PM

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https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/patch-905-ptr-is-now-available/248778

World of Warcraft Forums

Patch 9.0.5 PTR is Now Available

We’ve opened the Public Test Realm (PTR) for Patch 9.0.5, the next update to World of Warcraft, which is now in-testing and expected to be released in March. This update will be a bit different from our usual patches. It’s focused almost entirely on systems, responding to community feedback about rewards, doing tuning that requires the sort of ...

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:46 PM

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they're reworking covenant abilities and legendaries for some

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:46 PM

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I don't see any changes on DK legendaries

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and some of those were absolute garbage

austere gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Covenant and Legendary Tuning

Came sooner tha expected ahahah

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I expected this for 9.1

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Along those lines, this first build of the 9.0.5 PTR only includes Covenant ability changes. The build next week (and thereafter) should include Legendary changes.

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oh, death's due seems to have been increased to a 12s debuff/buff (from.. 8s?) and 2% per hit instead of 1%

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there's.. anima snow weather in bastion? Is that new or have I just never seen it on live

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I know maldraxxus has special weather

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nvm it was already 12s, but the doubling gain speed is still nice

humble pier Feb 9, 2021, 11:53 PM

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did the wowhead website crash?

mossy meteor Feb 9, 2021, 11:53 PM

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lol, i'm getting the 15 legendaries cutscene

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yes the site is hugged to death

humble pier Feb 9, 2021, 11:54 PM

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figuredd

dense plover Feb 9, 2021, 11:54 PM

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silent urchin there's.. anima snow weather in bastion? Is that new or have I just never seen i...

you mean where everything is white?

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been there for a long time

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:54 PM

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yeah

deep pawn Feb 9, 2021, 11:57 PM

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lighting is different on ptr

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I'll have to check settings

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it might just be more noticeable with default settings

silent urchin Feb 9, 2021, 11:57 PM

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I think there's some graphical weirdness in general

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basically every single transparent effect is super pixelated for me

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even at max settings

humble pier Feb 9, 2021, 11:58 PM

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im geussing the valor points post crashed the website LUL

mossy meteor Feb 10, 2021, 12:03 AM

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this is the only new venari thing i believe

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silent urchin Feb 10, 2021, 12:03 AM

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Did a calling, didn't get any valor

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So I guess that's not active yet

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there should also be a Dowser item on ve'nari

mossy meteor Feb 10, 2021, 12:05 AM

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my hearthstone is gone

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silent urchin Feb 10, 2021, 12:07 AM

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make sure to copy account data too

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you don't get toys etc if you just copy a character

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https://i.imgur.com/Zu5zqLD.png is the dowser

Imgur

mossy meteor Feb 10, 2021, 12:09 AM

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was this changed

silent urchin Feb 10, 2021, 12:12 AM

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ok there are definitely a number of torgast power changes

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I think maybe a trinket tuning pass too

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I think it says anima power on live but afaik functions the same

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oof monstrous concotion nerfed to 10%, and doesn't stack twice anymore

signal bone Feb 10, 2021, 12:16 AM

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leak season is in full effect

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arctic pendant Feb 10, 2021, 12:32 AM

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Sounds fake af

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but who knows what could happen.

upper remnant Feb 10, 2021, 12:35 AM

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Too soon to even be possible

dense plover Feb 10, 2021, 12:50 AM

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mossy meteor

they did change it to say sources instead of just flat anima. My guess is its b/c theyre gonna increase the amount of anima you can get from WQs and will also increase the amount of anima for the quest and wanted the text to be more flexible

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in regards to the leak, yeah, its way too early

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they dont have an expac name until around the X.2.5 patch

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it would have a codename at this point

tribal sand Feb 10, 2021, 1:03 AM

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this is a new item from ven'ari

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and this too

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dense plover Feb 10, 2021, 1:59 AM

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they changed the bastion metal halos and the branch wings from ardenweald to be curvy

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it appears to reduce and/or prevent clipping

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thick saddle Feb 10, 2021, 6:15 AM

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signal bone

While a "Lightbound" expansion certainly is possible, it's not likely to be realistic (right now). Also the fact that we're just at the start of Shadowlands right now, and the likely release of what comes after Shadowlands will be Late 2022, an announcement for said expansion is almost certainly going to be at Blizzcon in November (if they return to their regular schedule)

uncut vault Feb 10, 2021, 6:17 AM

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I honestly dont really know why people discuss "leaks"

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especially now, when the next expansion is heavily telegraphed

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you're only ever going to know which version is right after its revealed

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Shadowlands was insanely obvious in BfA, and light/void stuff is insanely obvious now

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we're not really in the early WoW days where xpac themes are entirely disconnected and have little to no setup

dense plover Feb 10, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Sure, but the leak is too detailed for being this far out to be worth anything

strange falcon Feb 10, 2021, 9:24 AM

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https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1359430846734811136?s=19 https://twitter.com/Lythiara/status/1359431380724293633?s=19

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

So I think the biggest news that we should all be talking about is the fact that it looks like something very interesting is happening with the Battle Net friends list.

As of last night, EU/NA friends lists have merged. I don’t wanna say it... but it’s extremely curious. https://t.co/Q310SB7Fby

▶ Play video

Lythi (@Lythiara)

@MrGMYT Final Fantasy also announced that they´re going to make it possible for players to play with each other cross datacenters, which basically means you can now play with your US friends from an EU account. Wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard does the same. Been a big request for years

tropic trail Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM

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monkaW

strange falcon Feb 10, 2021, 3:55 PM

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https://twitter.com/marlamin/status/1359511749054107648?s=12

Martin Benjamins (@Marlamin)

Cool thing from last night, they added some new tech that lets the game pick different spell effects for various conditions. Currently only used for the Wandering Ancient mount (which is mostly encrypted). Going off some of its textures, it'll change colors with the season! Neat.

olive wharf Feb 10, 2021, 8:55 PM

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just wait till all skills are rainbow cus LGBTQ

strange falcon Feb 10, 2021, 9:18 PM

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???

austere gazelle Feb 10, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Unnecessary comment, but well...

dense plover Feb 10, 2021, 11:09 PM

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@olive wharf don’t be a homophobic jerk

tropic trail Feb 10, 2021, 11:35 PM

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arcane torrent has a new sound effect

edgy ivy Feb 11, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Looks like we may be getting another runecarver memory cut scene...

https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=348416/memory-of-the-wrathgate

Wowhead

Memory of the Wrathgate

In the Uncategorized Spells category. Added in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands. Always up to date with the latest patch (9.0.5).

ionic sphinx Feb 11, 2021, 1:27 AM

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why would the runecarver have a memory of that

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big think

edgy ivy Feb 11, 2021, 1:41 AM

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Who knows, but I expect they'll continue adding more Runecarver cut scenes

austere gazelle Feb 11, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Wrathgate => plague => varimathras => nathrezim => maldraxxus => primus

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Only link that is obvious at the moment

austere gazelle Feb 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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edgy ivy Looks like we may be getting another runecarver memory cut scene... https://ptr...

Are you sure its a cutscene, and not another legendary power? ^^

austere gazelle Feb 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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ionic sphinx why would the runecarver have a memory of that

If he is the primus, I theorize that, as his role was to defend the shadowlands and he had spies everywhere, he had access to the Kyrian librairies of Memories / Memories and military knowledge and events of all the SL.

Moreover, if you combine the memories of all the deads from azeroth, you could have a precise recollection of everything that happened on this world since aeons

knowledge is power, I'm pretty sure the Primus got a lots of knowledge, which the Jailer wanted to access

uncut vault Feb 11, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Well, its kind of implied the Primus and the Jailer put that knowledge together with each other

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the guardian of the Sepulcher is a Mawsworn with maldraxxus energy

edgy ivy Feb 11, 2021, 1:06 PM

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austere gazelle Are you sure its a cutscene, and not another legendary power? ^^

OMG IT IS A CUT SCENE. The effect is "Play Movie (884)." I didn't see it at first!

Holy crap, we might be getting a remastered Wrathgate cinematic!!!!

https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=348416/memory-of-the-wrathgate

@serene marsh @ancient forge @whole cedar

Wowhead

Memory of the Wrathgate

In the Uncategorized Spells category. Added in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands. Always up to date with the latest patch (9.0.5).

austere gazelle Feb 11, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Ok nice, couldnt see it myself since my work vpn is blocinking wowhead

silent urchin Feb 11, 2021, 1:11 PM

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That's an older one from 8.2.5. The new one is https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=348416/memory-of-the-wrathgate which has play movie (884)

Wowhead

Memory of the Wrathgate

In the Uncategorized Spells category. Added in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands. Always up to date with the latest patch (9.0.5).

edgy ivy Feb 11, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Ah thanks, I linked to the wrong one

ancient forge Feb 11, 2021, 1:14 PM

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Movie 884 is interface/cinematics/bfa_820_az

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Maybe a ph still

edgy ivy Feb 11, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Maybe they added the spell in 8.2.5 in hopes that we wouldn't notice it?

solar temple Feb 11, 2021, 1:20 PM

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Is it confirmed if anduin goes to the dark side?

austere gazelle Feb 11, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Not yet. the only thing we know is what we saw in the current game atm

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If there is something about it, the reveal would be at blizzcon during a cinematic

mossy meteor Feb 11, 2021, 11:27 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=320884/volos-homestead-on-9-0-5-ptr-new-elwynn-forest-house-and-d-d-reference?webhook

Wowhead

Volo's Homestead on 9.0.5 PTR - New Elwynn Forest House and D&D Ref...

Streamer MrGM has discovered Volo's Homestead on the 9.0.5 PTR, a new house in Elwynn Forest. The name could reference Volo's Guide to Monsters from D&D.

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neat

tropic trail Feb 12, 2021, 4:30 PM

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I bet my left testicle that dh dps i going to rise either in 9.05 or in 9.1

strange falcon Feb 12, 2021, 4:32 PM

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you mean when vengeance gets nerfed into oblivion?

austere gazelle Feb 12, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Yes But its not the dps that will make it or not, dh dps need to add more to the table in term of utility

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Take the dk for example, their kit is insane - and too much - in my opinion

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Dh dps need more gameplay / utility option outside of a magic damage boost

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They could yeah, but it wont be as interesting, DH don't need raw numbers increases, they need a complete gameplay rework and utility

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We are too dependant of " borrowed power "

strange falcon Feb 12, 2021, 5:02 PM

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i mean,DH was Designed from the very draft with the artifact in mind

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it would like taking pyroblast out of firemagge

austere gazelle Feb 12, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Thats the problem yeah

dense plover Feb 12, 2021, 5:19 PM

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i still think the problem with DH is that they rely on targeting multiple enemies

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theyre the only melee class that works like that

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but changing that would change them to be less unique

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if they could figure out a "if there is only 1 enemy within 10yds, you deal 10% more dmg" passive without it being lame, that would probably make them more competitive

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b/c right now they have scenarios where they are really great (usually multi-target)

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and scenarios where they are absolute shit (usually single target)

terse glacier Feb 12, 2021, 6:10 PM

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solar temple Is it confirmed if anduin goes to the dark side?

No 😦
He is to strong to go to dark side

pulsar minnow Feb 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I’m personally of the belief that at the end of the next raid the Jailer will suck the anima out of Anduin and it will give him that final boost to break free from the Maw.

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Anduin will then be left very weak (perhaps rapidly aged like Khadgar) and after Shadowlands it will lead us into where the Son of the Wolf comic left off

ancient jasper Feb 12, 2021, 7:20 PM

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I'm still hoping for a pretty big Time Skip as we finally come out of the Shadowlands.

pulsar minnow Feb 12, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I’d love for a reverse, but I doubt it’ll ever happen. Imagine getting a restored Kalimdor expansion where we go back in time to the War of the Ancients and get to see the story from the perspectives of all the inhabitants of Kalimdor. Heck just think of a massive restored Zin’azshari

ancient jasper Feb 12, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Huh that could definitely be interesting as well

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So we expecting any Heritage Armor/Character Customization stuff in this Patch or just the System stuff like Blizz mentioned?

strange falcon Feb 12, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Blizz said they'd hand out allied race customization options during SL

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Since base races got them with prepatch

dense plover Feb 12, 2021, 7:56 PM

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actually

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what they said was they would add more customization options

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they didnt specifically call out allied races

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though it was heavily implied

young latch Feb 12, 2021, 9:00 PM

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i assume nightbourne are a high priority b/c they're popular and the requests for updates are really high

austere gazelle Feb 12, 2021, 9:06 PM

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pulsar minnow Anduin will then be left very weak (perhaps rapidly aged like Khadgar) and after...

They dismissed this " son of the wolf " comic ending saying that it was one between many possibilities

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So don't get your hope high about this, unfortunately

eternal root Feb 13, 2021, 10:16 AM

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The writer of the latest article on Soulshapes apparently didn't see this yet: https://ptr.wowhead.com/achievement=14933/9-0-covenant-night-fae-small-shape-selected

Wowhead

9.0 - Covenant - Night Fae - Small Shape Selected

Small Shape form currently selected if you have earned small shapes. In the Achievements category. Added in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands. Always up to date.

mossy dome Feb 13, 2021, 3:15 PM

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Does anyone know the weekly cap/costs of valor gear?

dense plover Feb 13, 2021, 3:54 PM

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mossy dome Does anyone know the weekly cap/costs of valor gear?

No

upper remnant Feb 13, 2021, 5:33 PM

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https://youtu.be/zHh-uS41Uvw

YouTube

JudgeHype

Nouvelle animation pour les montures au patch 9.0.5 de WoW

Le patch 9.0.5 de World of Warcraft apporte une nouvelle animation quand vous invoquez ou renvoyez une monture.

Toutes les infos sur https://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com

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New mounting animations

signal bone Feb 13, 2021, 5:39 PM

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look exactly the same to me

ionic sphinx Feb 13, 2021, 5:40 PM

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New particle effects around the player

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It doesn't look like a big poof any more

strange falcon Feb 13, 2021, 5:53 PM

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signal bone look exactly the same to me

its a portal instead of a dustcloud

signal bone Feb 13, 2021, 6:06 PM

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ok so it's not a new animation, it's a new particle effect

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hardly noticeable

tropic trail Feb 13, 2021, 9:15 PM

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Is there anything different in 9.0.5

strange falcon Feb 13, 2021, 9:16 PM

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tropic trail Is there anything different in 9.0.5

new content? no, fixes and rebalancing

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yes

tropic trail Feb 13, 2021, 9:16 PM

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Ok

proper palm Feb 14, 2021, 4:06 PM

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signal bone look exactly the same to me

Useless add..

sullen dawn Feb 16, 2021, 10:35 AM

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its fine prolly took them a few hours

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at most

ancient jasper Feb 16, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Hell it was probably a 1 person project. I very seriously doubt it took much manpower at all.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Valor points are not new content

ancient jasper Feb 16, 2021, 6:41 PM

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We don't truly know what will be in 9.0.5 yet. Blizzard might be holding some stuff back for a Blizzconline reveal.

dense plover Feb 16, 2021, 7:01 PM

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no they arent

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9.1 is the content update

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normally we dont get a 0.5 update

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theyre doing it specifically to get system changes

ancient jasper Feb 16, 2021, 7:43 PM

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I'm... curious how you know EXACTLY what Blizzard has planned.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2021, 7:47 PM

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ancient jasper I'm... curious how you know EXACTLY what Blizzard has planned.

blizzard themselves specifically said 9.0.5 was systems changes

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🤦‍♂️

ancient jasper Feb 16, 2021, 8:01 PM

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And Blizzard has never once held things back. Right? Jesus, people.. Think.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2021, 8:09 PM

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idk man

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upper lantern Feb 16, 2021, 8:17 PM

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I hope we get improved anima drops

strange falcon Feb 16, 2021, 8:18 PM

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upper lantern I hope we get improved anima drops

they already improved the amount of anima dropping from m+ and raid

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like this week

dense plover Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 PM

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datamining shows no evidence of major changes

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the only POTENTIAL content we might get, are 2 new torghast wings and some kind of rune book

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assuming that isnt for 9.1

mossy meteor Feb 16, 2021, 10:58 PM

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new torghast wings?

dense plover Feb 16, 2021, 11:15 PM

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theres 2 tags for new wings

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tho there are no files or anything else associated

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so its very likely its for 9.1

dark depot Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Indeed there are 2 useless entrances near Twisting corridors, maybe will be the new ones

dense plover Feb 17, 2021, 7:54 PM

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I suspect they will continue to add wings throughout the expac

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We will probably get a second floor or another room or something

austere gazelle Feb 17, 2021, 8:08 PM

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there should be a raid portal too at one point I think

thick saddle Feb 17, 2021, 8:18 PM

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There's also room in Oribos for portals to new zones, not currently ingame.

austere gazelle Feb 17, 2021, 8:58 PM

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there is a fourth floor ( the two we know + the arbiter one + the lowest one )

ionic terrace Feb 17, 2021, 9:21 PM

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ptr is down

austere gazelle Feb 17, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ah we'll soon see the legendary tuning lol

dense plover Feb 17, 2021, 10:59 PM

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New ptr build

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Smol

austere gazelle Feb 17, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Unbound Chaos Activating Immolation Aura increases the damage of your next Fel Rush by 300% 600%. Lasts 20 sec. Havoc Demon Hunter - Level 30 Talent. Havoc Demon Hunter - Level 30 Talent.

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That was a suggestion made in september....

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lol

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But I'm not sure a Dashing spec is needed in dungeon && raid, like... I mean Sludgefist... Xymox...

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Kinda stupid move

silent urchin Feb 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Those are not small legendary "tuning"s

austere gazelle Feb 17, 2021, 11:22 PM

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The tuning to DH Burning wound is insane

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I'm overjoyed ( and hope it'll stay l ike this )

strange falcon Feb 17, 2021, 11:42 PM

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austere gazelle But I'm not sure a Dashing spec is needed in dungeon && raid, like... I mean Slu...

its prob to make momentum build

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competitive

austere gazelle Feb 17, 2021, 11:55 PM

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But you cant use it on many fight, itll never be competitive as we re the only class that dash all the time and encounter does not take this into account most of the time

Sludgefist is the perfect design example, shriekwing will be harder with this spec, xymox will be a brainfuck with the trap, devourer will become problematic on certain phases, kaelthas will be a magma bath on shade phase etc... not fun

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And it remove a survival skill that enters your dps rotation... many thing are not right with momentum / ubc

strange falcon Feb 18, 2021, 7:29 AM

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What do u know prob next raid is less movement restrictive

austere gazelle Feb 18, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Hope so

silent urchin Feb 18, 2021, 2:57 PM

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big whoops to whoever set that live early

arctic pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:09 PM

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yeah seems like someone at Blizzard got a little too excited.

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 3:21 PM

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So shadowlands raid spoilers are allowed here?

cunning fossil Feb 18, 2021, 3:23 PM

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That person is gonna be fired

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:23 PM

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I’m just imagining Ion waking up, walking over to get his morning coffee to read WoWhead and then-

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Looks like an awesome patch though

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Reminds me a whole lot of 7.1 which I loved

strange falcon Feb 18, 2021, 3:26 PM

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cunning fossil That person is gonna be fired

They keep firing 1 guy every year

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They always leak xD

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Spoilers are allowed in here

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@solar temple

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No, he asked if they were allowed here

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lmao

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:29 PM

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cunning fossil That person is gonna be fired

Oh that won't be the end of it. They will likely sue them.

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Whoever did that I really don’t like. They kinda ruined the whole surprise

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We only had one day left too

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Yeah

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I instinctively click push notifications from WoWhead, and now have the whole thing spoiled

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Really kinda pissed now

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Me and my friend make bingo boards for Blizzcon and he started listing off things out of nowhere and hinted towards looking at Wowhead. That’s how I got spoiled

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:32 PM

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rip

strange falcon Feb 18, 2021, 3:32 PM

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pulsar minnow We only had one day left too

There hasnt been a single blizzcon where it hasnt leaked

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Legit

feral prism Feb 18, 2021, 3:32 PM

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what happened to anduin someone said hes gone

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again

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:32 PM

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He’s being twisted into a Mawsworn soldier

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No doubt we’ll save him

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But he’ll have some lasting changes

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:33 PM

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He is gonna be Arthas 2.0

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And we'll learn that he was Arthas's son the whole time uwu

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x3

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:34 PM

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I think Sylvanas will see Anduin and after realizing what she has done, will then turn on the Jailer and try to kill him. The Jailer will turn around, suck the power out of her, and then immediately kill her. We’ll be left with Anduin and next patch will pick up on trying to bring him back to who he used to be

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 3:34 PM

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doubt it

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:34 PM

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pulsar minnow I think Sylvanas will see Anduin and after realizing what she has done, will the...

Sadly no. The leak says we will be fighting her in the new raid...

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Well we can fight her in the raid and this can still happen

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Much to my greatest disappointment

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 3:35 PM

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everyone knows that Sylvanas will turn out to be a good guy

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:35 PM

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I think she’ll die knowing what she did was wrong, that’s the extent of it

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I definitely think that next expansion will be Son of the Wolf

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I think someone said that’s not canon, but I can’t find any evidence on that

modern saddle Feb 18, 2021, 3:38 PM

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yooo...Wtf happened to Anduin?ù

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:38 PM

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he gone full arthas

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 3:38 PM

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he evil now

modern saddle Feb 18, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Sadge I actually liked him

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:38 PM

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he is young he will be back im sure

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I didn't

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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heroes never die

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Man, this leak really has me sad.

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Why?

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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🤔 that 8 man dungeon worries me

ivory meadow Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I want to unsee.

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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its gonna be toxic as fuck i bet

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:40 PM

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It looks awesome though. I’ve always loved their mega dungeons

ivory meadow Feb 18, 2021, 3:40 PM

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wonder if there's anything else though

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:40 PM

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its hard with 5 man group in m+

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but 8

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insanity

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Yeah but that’s M+. Mega dungeons are split in two for M+

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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we shall see... iexpect it tobe pugging nightmare but might be really easy

ivory meadow Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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8 man?

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you mean eight-boss?

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Idk

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I’ve never played it

uncut vault Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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it will be two four man dungeons for M+

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Classic

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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ivory meadow you mean eight-boss?

New Mega-dungeon - Tazavesh, the Veiled Market—Gather your party and discover exotic wares and strange creatures in an eight-boss Mythic mega-dungeon

uncut vault Feb 18, 2021, 3:41 PM

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the full megadungeons are mythic 0 only

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:42 PM

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it does say 8 boss

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you are right

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so classic servers are evolving to tbc

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and classic ppl will have to move to new server to stay 60

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 3:44 PM

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splitting the userbase is quite dangerous

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:44 PM

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i mean its a wierd flex for a classic community that has built market and shit

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moving your 60 to a new classic server means new market ...

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i expected them to give option to transfer your 60 to new tbc server rather then upgrading exisiting classic to tbc

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but ok

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we shall see

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:45 PM

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dull flame i expected them to give option to transfer your 60 to new tbc server rather th...

This makes no sense. Progress the servers and offer Fresh Classic servers a year later.

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:47 PM

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🤔 ye well w.e. i started wow in tbc i will deffo not replay that shit again... khadgarface nostalgia is a bait ... back to 9.1

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 3:47 PM

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I want them to announce they will add flying to Argus and other zones like it XD

dull flame Feb 18, 2021, 3:48 PM

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i doubt there will ever be flying in argus

unborn glacier Feb 18, 2021, 3:48 PM

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blissful arch I want them to announce they will add flying to Argus and other zones like it XD

That wont ever happen.

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 3:49 PM

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a guy can dream, i just found out how terrible it was when i went there to do achievements

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Do I need to do anything to play classic?

rotund prawn Feb 18, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Wrong channel

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:01 PM

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or is it the same as retail, just create a char and get goin?

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Well we were just talking about classic TBC

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Are we going to have a classic-wow and classic-tbc channel? Those are the important questions.

rotund prawn Feb 18, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Well the class-wow thing is already barely used

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 4:03 PM

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wait a sec..

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:03 PM

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I usually only spoil myself with what gets spoiled infront of me, so I don’t chase it

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 4:04 PM

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This classic tbc is time for redemption

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the hunters legendary was ruined by the release of wotlk pre-patch

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but there won't be a wotlk pre-patch this time

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Classic is very strict right?

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Like racials?

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Yeah, but do racials matter more in classic than retail?

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 4:15 PM

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#classic-wow

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Please ask your questions there, I'd be happy to answer them.

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:25 PM

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kk

austere gazelle Feb 18, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Shouldn't we rename this to 9.1 spoiler? xD

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:47 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

thick saddle Feb 18, 2021, 4:51 PM

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#retail-spoilers and #classic-spoilers maybe?

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Yeah that’s a good idea

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@solar temple will all dungeons be available?

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In tbc

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 4:57 PM

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there are so few spoilers we can keep them combined

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Yeah

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There’s so many and I haven’t ran them all

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What about transmog, mounts, and pets?

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Do they transfer

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Never cared much for transmog tbh

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400 gold to change your armor set

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I heard that epic mounts are faster?

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Do the mounts save from retail?

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:01 PM

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so theyre expanding the maw - neat

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:02 PM

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dense plover so theyre expanding the maw - neat

🤦‍♂️

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Please no

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:02 PM

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facepalm?

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korthia 100% is more stuff in the maw

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:02 PM

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The maw is big enough

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:02 PM

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its not a new zone

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Oh

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Ok

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Heirlooms in classic?

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:03 PM

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korthia has a screenshot from the presskit

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thats 100% in the maw

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kinda caught offguard by the lack of maw invasions

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i expected a new invasion/assault system

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i like the weird maw-forest aesthetic

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 5:06 PM

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they pulled another plane into the maw

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:06 PM

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No school today

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:07 PM

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blissful arch they pulled another plane into the maw

another island

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Did you add my bnet yet?

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:07 PM

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the maw is literally a series of chained together islands

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it was always meant to be expandable

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:08 PM

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dense plover it was always meant to be expandable

How big is it gonna get then 👀

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:08 PM

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probably an additional island per patch

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so 2 more after korthia

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assuming they arent done via sub maps like argus was

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Bruh that place is literally going to be like Minecraft

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Lmao

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nether

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The nether thing

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:09 PM

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i think the map is going to end up like argus

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:09 PM

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I never went to argus

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:09 PM

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with korthia and 2 others as little bubbles on the map to see their map

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b/c redoing map art is hell

austere gazelle Feb 18, 2021, 5:11 PM

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The final maw map will be four or five new zone with thorgast in the center I think

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 5:12 PM

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i suspect that we will get a new island each major patch, with 9.2 and 9.3 adding actual new zones

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 5:12 PM

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island plane

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wow has WAAAAY too many flying islands

austere gazelle Feb 18, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I theorized something like this for 9.1 ahah ( obviously not the same shape for each zones )

fair crane Feb 18, 2021, 5:30 PM

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i think tbc might've just been "leaked" by a blizzard employee?

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I didn’t read the news, only the title, but I believe that’s what happened, title for both says “accidentaly” (lol typo)

fair crane Feb 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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yeah so from what im reading rn it seems like something they were gonna release it after the blizzard event

strange falcon Feb 18, 2021, 5:45 PM

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people are already memeing

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260539358891868161/812016148237254716/SuperGay.png

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:46 PM

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I don’t understand it

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Playing shadowlands, then play classic, then play shadowlands again?

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 5:51 PM

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just realized the new kyrian armor is my favorite concept armor that I was talking about back in Beta

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blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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wait, where did you get that image?

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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it was shown back at Blizzcon 2019

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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aah y

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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it also looks like the armors consist of multiple swappable pieces

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one variant with a robe, the other without. Looks awesome.

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 5:59 PM

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pulsar minnow

That’s fucking 🔥

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Yeah. Im really glad they're making it available for players

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Now all they need to do is make Kyrian Playable and my dreams will be fulfilled

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Wdym playable?

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Isn’t it BIS for nearly every tank spec?

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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Like the race

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The blue people

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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Oh

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smurfs ftw

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Venthyr ftw, that would be cool

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Let’s have em all

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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They should at least have a toy

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Like from the vendor of your convent

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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nah

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maldraxus and the fae are too diverse

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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5k anima to turn into your convent for 10-25 mins

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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there's not really "one" race

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5k per time?

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Sylvar are the primary race

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For Maldraxxus we could do the chosen since they’ve been our allies the longest

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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but they get hardly the attention the kyrian or venthyr get

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Sylvar get a lot of attention

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One of them got an entire cinematic

blissful arch Feb 18, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Who?

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They seem so forgetable

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 6:09 PM

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the satyr people

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the ones that are everywhere

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 6:10 PM

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YES

pulsar minnow Feb 18, 2021, 6:10 PM

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thank goodness

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 6:43 PM

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glad they fixed it - you turned off the bones. now if only they would fix gloves and boots

brazen trellis Feb 18, 2021, 6:46 PM

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yeah

wintry sage Feb 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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or just play human

mossy meteor Feb 18, 2021, 7:06 PM

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dense plover another island

it's technically a new island that was pulled to the maw

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he has pulled a fragment of a long-lost domain into the Maw itself to find it

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Korthia sounds similar to that blood elf DK

thick saddle Feb 18, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Koltira?

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Koltira_Deathweaver

Wowpedia

Koltira Deathweaver

"Come then, you ragged sacks of flesh. Come and learn what it takes to slay an elf."Koltira Deathweaver is a notable death knight of the New Horde, serving as the Horde counterpart to Thassarian. In life, Koltira was a valiant defender of Quel'Thalas, and took to the field during the brutal Scourge invasion. He was killed in battle by Thassarian...

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 7:15 PM

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mossy meteor it's technically a new island that was pulled to the maw

well yeah, thats - what im saying

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its a new island, not a new zone

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its gonna be on the maw zone instance

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its probably why the maw has a loadscreen

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specifically so they can add more without bogging down the map

proper flint Feb 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Soo... i think they mentioned that all of this was going live with patch 9.1, including season 2 pvp, right? Any predictions when this is going to go live? I still need to climb in pvp and i'd hate it if i have only like 2 weeks left

uncut vault Feb 18, 2021, 7:36 PM

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well 9.0.5 is march, so late march at very earliest, but thats insanely unlikely

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april or may are good bets

proper flint Feb 18, 2021, 7:37 PM

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kk thx for info

mossy meteor Feb 18, 2021, 9:57 PM

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A new account-wide unlock has been added to Ve’nari that reveals teleport nodes near all the long walkable chains in Torghast to help you quickly cross the chains and no longer have to face your fear of heights.

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neat

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To better increase your odds of success, a recommended item level will now be displayed when selecting which Layer difficulty to attempt.

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also neat

dense plover Feb 18, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Yep

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Especially useful with the no jump anima power

tropic trail Feb 18, 2021, 11:38 PM

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so are class tier sets not coming back? 😦

rotund prawn Feb 18, 2021, 11:38 PM

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I think they're just coming back * eventually *

tropic trail Feb 18, 2021, 11:39 PM

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I'm getting sick of armor type sets, I would love class sets like they did in legion

rotund prawn Feb 18, 2021, 11:39 PM

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I think it's confirmed

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At least I heard it once and I'm now parroting it everywhere

brazen trellis Feb 19, 2021, 2:42 AM

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are there leaked class changes?

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i would honestly wanna know class changes more than lore rn

dense plover Feb 19, 2021, 2:49 AM

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tropic trail so are class tier sets not coming back? 😦

They said to expect them around 9.2/raid