is teleportation
#beta-ptr-spoilers
hollow dock
ruby prawn
But we got there by flying
hollow dock
heck the original Naaru ships like the exodar didn't even travel through space. They teleported through the Twisitng Nether.
ruby prawn
I think the ultimate goal will be to colonise the whole galaxy
Have you ever played Spore?
hollow dock
Not much left to colonise.
The legions burned over most of the remaining planets and the voids taken the rest.
ruby prawn
We will have a spaceship creator
And we will go and use sargeras as a pet to kill the void lords
worthy minnow
@hollow dock how did u know it is ?
ruby prawn
Yeah
hollow dock
know it is what
ruby prawn
How do you know?
tacit vine
space marine
plain vigil
I wanna see wow ending up like that netflix movie bright...
ruby prawn
That movie was so bad
gilded drum
Wait Vris, in the Antorus cutscene doesn’t the Vindicar fly through space?
hollow dock
Through hints at Chronicles. The titans have traversed the Universe.
plain vigil
It was gr8
ruby prawn
It was not
hollow dock
nope it flew back down to Azeroth through the portal illidan made.
that portal is now closed.
gilded drum
Yeah but isn’t that flying in space?
zinc sandal
Hints do not confirm it. Don't speak like it's the truth.
plain vigil
^^^^^^
hollow dock
Nope. It's flying through a portal
gilded drum
True enough.
ruby prawn
Does anyone know the lore behind the reason why the Exodar Crashed?
plain vigil
Magic
zinc sandal
Blood Elf sabotage
rich apex
Blood elves
plain vigil
Go boom boom
hollow dock
Failures and sabotage from the blood elves after they attacked Outland and boarded the other Naaru ships
plain vigil
Wait whattt
How did it get to azeroth so luckily then!?
Now im hust confused
Just*
hollow dock
teleportation through the twisting nether
hollow dock
they didn't intend to land on Azeroth, its just where they jettisoned
worthy minnow
@hollow dock that it was a joke and they didnt meant it serious?
hollow dock
"All joking aside"
frigid umbra
And cuz story writers wanted it and devs needed a new race
hollow dock
the first few words
plain vigil
Just the pure luck that they crashed on the planet from which the blood elves came 😂
ruby prawn
I think Blizzard will do a cross over with another game
hollow dock
They won't.
ruby prawn
They will
hollow dock
They've vehemetly said no on their universes crossing outside of HOTS.
ruby prawn
Just imagine
plain vigil
I think wow and starcraft are the same universe... sorry orcs
ruby prawn
Counter strike and WoW
frigid umbra
Lol
hollow dock
They very much are working on a battle royal game, but I dont believe it'll be in WoWs skin.
ruby prawn
New planets
plain vigil
Blizzard gets bought by disney... Azeroth appears in KH4
hollow dock
Tyrande for KH4
frigid umbra
Lol
hollow dock
We dont have access to that sort of mass time travel Exosdar.
hollow dock
and that requires a second one to be made. without a bronze dragon, theres no way for us to actually accomplish that.
Medhiv with the help of Sargeras.
frigid umbra
Guldan... well sargaras actually through medive
hollow dock
Sargeras is gone and Medivh has fucked off somewhere in the Nether
frigid umbra
Medivh is dead isnt he
plain vigil
Uhhh the elements are magic doe
frigid umbra
In war 3..o yeah
plain vigil
They’re not arcane, but they’re still magic -_-
hollow dock
Theyre magical.
ruby prawn
The devs can do anything
hollow dock
The devs can only do what theyre told to do by the higher ups and the writers
and if it doesn't follow the line they want, it won't happen
hollow dock
They won't do that though.
ruby prawn
Boom, illidan was in love with malfurion all along
hollow dock
Yes because the fans are ravenous hormone driven people who think anything is possible.
zinc sandal
Who wish*
hollow dock
Oh no they think it
hollow dock
Make it a Night elf base and we'll talk
plain vigil
@hollow dock deal 😂
ruby prawn
Then that's sad
plain vigil
This one is obvi Wildhammer Dwarf
plain vigil
But woth drenai
hollow dock
Already happened.
ruby prawn
We will have that expansion soon
plain vigil
Nah starcraft + wow
hollow dock
People have written it up in numerous shitty fanfics already.
plain vigil
Darth Sargearasssss
ruby prawn
We need him back
plain vigil
Illidad wont be back untill after we go into the shadowlands and then face the wotlk 2.0 xpac
hollow dock
We dont
ruby prawn
Tyrande and Malfurion
hollow dock
We really dont
ruby prawn
Didn't give him good replies
hollow dock
Yes they had.
ruby prawn
They didn't
hollow dock
Sorry that they didn't immediately want Illidaddys penor, but you'd have to really look at it from their perspective. They have no idea all the things Illidan did and only saw the wrong he's done. All that wrong, to be spit in the face by,
to be betrayed be
by*
ruby prawn
They didn't say anything about him
hollow dock
Yes they had.
hollow dock
They said their peace.
That was the end of it
Was it satisfactory? No.
However, Illidan doesn't deserve satisfactory
hollow dock
It wont be.
ruby prawn
Starting with classic
hollow dock
WoW makes to much money for them to end it
ruby prawn
With vanilla, then pistachio
(TBC)
Then another white coloured ice cream
Have you ever had peanut butter ice cream?
It's delicious
hollow dock
They really will not be doing this. The only thing removed from the game is vanilla content. They make classic in a response to the massive deman for its return.
ruby prawn
It kinda fits the theme of wrath of the lich king
hollow dock
They can't revert the current servers so they make classic.
plain vigil
Btw classic will most likely have all the uodated models
hollow dock
No it won't.
ruby prawn
I hope not
hollow dock
Otherwise, it wont be classic.
plain vigil
But thats for #classic-wow not here
hollow dock
We only know 100% Azshara is a boss.
ruby prawn
What are the 3 lies of the boy king gonna be
hollow dock
That is the only information we have.
plain vigil
Remember its classic not vanilla
hollow dock
We were already told 1 of the lies but no one can determine or agree on a single possible canidate
hollow dock
No one knows exactly.
As from teh Ogres journal, we were already told the lie.
What that lie is, we dont know and from who, we can't determine
tropic trail
Still talking about illidan my word 😂
hollow dock
People love suckling on his penor meng
ruby prawn
My theory is: he already told us 3, because in the bfa cinematic he makes the transition from boy to king
hollow dock
Anduin isn't the boy king.
ruby prawn
Who is the boy king?
hollow dock
We dont know.
ruby prawn
It's Anduin
hollow dock
However, anduin being the boy king does not fit.
ruby prawn
In bfa he will be Manduin
zinc sandal
Again, talking like you know for sure.
hollow dock
Because I'm speaking with supporting facts behind what I'm talking about.
ruby prawn
Watch Blizzard making Nathanos the "boy king"
zinc sandal
It all crumbles when you follow it up with "We don't know."
hollow dock
Perhaps you should re-read what I said that towards.
I said we don't know who the boy king is. We can be certain its not anduin because he doesn't fit a single description given to us about the Boy king.
zinc sandal
For example?
hollow dock
He's already given us a lie. Anduin hasn't directly spoken to us for all of Legion.
hard to lie when you can't speak.
Secondly, Anduin follows the Light. The boy king sits at the table of the Void. (The master's table.)
zinc sandal
He's wielded the Shadow before. He might be being deceived somehow.
hollow dock
Yes it does. The master of Illgynoth is N'zoth, yogg-saron, or C'thun.
hollow dock
Where has he weilded shadow before?
zinc sandal
MoP
hollow dock
His trick of mind control? that's not specific to shadow.
zinc sandal
Mind control is a very characteristic Shadow spell, lore wise
ruby prawn
Or maybe Tyrande and Malfurion will have a child...
hollow dock
but its not restricted to it.
zinc sandal
No, but it most likely was.
ruby prawn
But who could be the boy king? King suggests it's from the alliance
hollow dock
Most likely, perhaps. However, that doesn't prove that Anduin sits at the table of the Void.
King just means ruler
For some explination of my thinking
The Old Gods and their minions speak in metaphor
ruby prawn
In the Horde it's a warxhief
hollow dock
never literally
rich apex
Admittedly, boy king is so obvious to be Anduin that it could be a red herring to not be Anduin 😛
zinc sandal
Taking what these guys say literally is a grave mistake
hollow dock
^
ruby prawn
Wasn't a dreadlord who told us about these lies?
rich apex
Tho Bolvar as the boy king like someone said is kind of a stretch
ruby prawn
Oh
tropic trail
He's been referred to as the boy King so it's likely him. He just may not know he is serving the old gods
ruby prawn
Maybe that's the first lie
tropic trail
He's likely being manipulated and doesn't know he is
hollow dock
When has he been refered to that?
zinc sandal
Btw I'm not saying Anduin is the Boy King. I'm saying telling people he isn't when we don't know is a mistake.
tropic trail
Lorthamar
hollow dock
I know he's been called a boy and a king
tropic trail
Nightborne in silvermoon cut scene
ruby prawn
Lor'thermar is a man, not a boy
hollow dock
Which isnt out yet. :x
uncut vault
Anduin can be the boy king, and still not be corrupted. Someone else can be offering him the lies
Guldan calls him boy king
ruby prawn
Theron is actually a blood elf, not a man
uncut vault
Atop nighthold
zinc sandal
Gul'dan also has nothing to do with the Old Gods
hollow dock
The three lies come from the Boy King.
What lies will he be offering us that someone gave him?
terse patrol
I don’t think that’s going to be the case.
I do think Anduin IS the Boy King, but people are forgetting something.
ruby prawn
I think that the first lie is the fact that Anduin serves the alliance
terse patrol
The quote doesn’t outright say it’ll be the Boy King saying the lies.
uncut vault
If we're taking the whispers that literally, might as well just assume anduin is corrupted. Which spoilers, he probably isn't
terse patrol
It could very well be the Master.
hollow dock
We know he isnt
uncut vault
That's my interpretation
terse patrol
And, well, look at my avatar.
uncut vault
Anduin being offered the lies seems more realistic
ruby prawn
In the novel War Crimes, a bad version of Anduin (already corrupted if I remember well) attacks him
hollow dock
The Master is either one of the Old Gods or refering to the Void Lords.
tropic trail
No lorthamar referred to anduin as the boy king I'm not calling him it @ruby prawn ^*
zinc sandal
Does it mention the Boy King and the three lies within the same quote? Because making connections between different statements may lead to a wrong conclusion.
terse patrol
There’s a certain Master already whispering in Anduin’s ear.
hollow dock
Yes it does Messlet
uncut vault
Anduin was not corrupted in the AU war crimes version
zinc sandal
Oh okay then
ruby prawn
The bad Anduin
hollow dock
Here let me get the full dialogue from him
ruby prawn
He wasn't fully corruoted
terse patrol
Anduin is not corrupted, nor will he be lying.
ruby prawn
The evil one
rich apex
I will be impressed if this guy turns out to be evil and manipulating Anduin https://78.media.tumblr.com/8db90a3bf4a6f4208f83d0d8baeb211e/tumblr_p2oiq122cK1r687oqo2_540.gif
After that scene
terse patrol
Master Mathias Shaw will more than likely be the true master, and is lying to Anduin.
rich apex
Oooh
uncut vault
There was no evil anduin in war crimes
rich apex
Yeah, that's fair
hollow dock
terse patrol
Mathias Shaw’s title is literally Master.
rich apex
Says the person with Creepy Smile Shaw avatar
uncut vault
There was an AU anduin who died saving our anduin
zinc sandal
What?
terse patrol
There’s a reason Blizzard, for the first time, put Shaw into a cinematic.
terse patrol
Shaw was, and has always been, the Spymaster of SI:7.
uncut vault
Except in legion 😉
terse patrol
There’s an interesting thing about Shaw in Legion:
ruby prawn
You know the guy Vol'jin befriended in MoP?
I think he will do something
I expected him to kill Sargeras this xpac
terse patrol
When it’s revealed that the Dreadlord Detheroc was posing as Shaw, we find that Shaw was imprisoned by the Burning Legion. Which is COMPLETELY unheard of until then.
hollow dock
Why would he kill Sargeras wtf
ruby prawn
Because he had to avenge voljin
terse patrol
Dreadlords never keep the people they’re posing as alive.
ruby prawn
Whatever the cist
tropic trail
Well anduin is the boy king that's pretty much 100% unless blizzard are throwing a curve ball intentionally. But I don't think anduin consciously offering lies
hollow dock
"Argh, what pointless impudence! We share a master!" - Ilgynoth
terse patrol
Yet, they kept Shaw alive. Why?
tropic trail
Do like your theory on shaw
ruby prawn
Maybe Anduin is a dreadlord
hollow dock
Again Jordyn, there is nothing concrete other than the literal words of what Ilgynoth said
and taking the warnings of an Old One is never advised.
tropic trail
I don't think anduin is a dread lord tbh
hollow dock
Anduin can't be a dreadlord he uses the light
uncut vault
Demons can use the light
ruby prawn
Honk, the theory is bad
hollow dock
theres only 1 dreadlord capable of doing it
tropic trail
Yeah exactly it's either all intentional. Or blizzard are throwing curve balls
ruby prawn
Because the demon hunters would've sniffed him already
uncut vault
And countless shivaara in black temple
tropic trail
But who else is going to be the boy King
uncut vault
That said, anduin certainly isn't a dreadlord
tropic trail
It's safe to assume anduin
hollow dock
Its not safe to assume anything.
terse patrol
This is true. However, we can’t be certain that the Dreadlords haven’t devised a way of avoiding the gaze of the hunters.
tropic trail
But I don't think he is evil or currupted
zinc sandal
Jaina is a dreadlord. Anduin is a dreadlord. Everyone is a dreadlord. Except for dreadlords.
uncut vault
Inb4 Gelbin and the old gods just made fun of his height
hollow dock
There's still Wrathion to consider, Bolvar is a bit of a stretch,
the dreadlords are actually the PCs
tropic trail
Well I mean u do have to assume things to work on any theory's. Otherwise you can never develop a theory
hollow dock
and we've been the bad guys to consider
ruby prawn
They can't make a way to avoid being seen by dhs
ruby prawn
The demon hunters are basically demons
terse patrol
You’re saying Blizzard can’t just invent some reason.
zinc sandal
At the end of WoW, we will be revealed to be dreadlords before killing all faction leaders
terse patrol
Didn’t know you were on the writing staff!
hollow dock
Its like True-sight in DnD. its meant to be the end all be all.
ruby prawn
They have a demon in then
Them
If they can hide from a demon hunter
That means they can hide from their own demon friends
ruby prawn
Exactly
terse patrol
That’s implying Dreadlords are working off of the same rules as all other demons. There are clues that the Dreadlords may actually be in league with the Void.
hollow dock
They used to until they got enslaved into the Legion
ruby prawn
goes to a stormwind guard
Bro, demon name, that you?
tropic trail
I think your theory on shaw is good as I haven't heard that before
And he's never really been in cinematics
hollow dock
Because he's the equivalent of james bond. You'renot supposed to be aware of him or his actions
ruby prawn
We didn't see Nathanos in a cinematic before, did we?
tropic trail
Yeah so there's a reason that they are showing him
terse patrol
Y’all are blind if you’re ignoring the fact that Detheroc didn’t turn Shaw into a skin suit and eat his memories. As if Detheroc INTENDED on being caught.
hollow dock
No but he's been in game, just liek Shaw.
You're the only one blind to your single path
ruby prawn
Are we gonna be nominated for Oscars or something?
ruby prawn
Thanks to me! Praise me!
ruby prawn
Are you a girl in real life? Cause I can show you my lore at home
Ignore the pick-up line
hollow dock
No Im an attack helicopter.
zinc sandal
Ew
ruby prawn
Exosdar has been banned from the group.
zinc sandal
Vris is clearly a dudebro
hollow dock
Absolutely, I can't possibly be anything else.
zinc sandal
So?
ruby prawn
You can't lie on the internet
zinc sandal
"It"? Nice
hollow dock
I enjoy it when people just accept I'm anything and nothing
zinc sandal
I am the Internet.
hollow dock
I am the chancellor
ruby prawn
There is a reason Sargeras was imprisoned
uncut vault
I can't link a palpatine pic into this chat, what is this heresy
ruby prawn
I think he will come back
hollow dock
Oh most certainly
ruby prawn
And illidan will ride on his back
hollow dock
Now that I dont agree with particularly.
ruby prawn
They will be lovers
hollow dock
What I do believe is that Sargeras will be brought back to fight alongside a void tainted Azeroth agianst the void lords.
uncut vault
Illidan x velen real otp
ruby prawn
Without the black temple sex dungeon, illidan will improvise
hollow dock
and then the universe implodes and everything starts anew with the same old battle of Light vs Dark.
the natural cycle for Dark to consume everything and light to dance along the edges.
ruby prawn
I don't understabd
How the imprisonment works
So illidan is just alive, in a coma state?
hollow dock
Amanthul did his titan mayjicks and pulled Sargeras into the pantheon and then shut the pantheon closed.
All the titans and Illidan are stuck in that room until it opens
rich apex
There's literally no reason for Illidan to be there
ruby prawn
Who are illidans parents
hollow dock
Nobodies that didn't matter
ruby prawn
But why is illidan there!
zinc sandal
He dumb
ruby prawn
Can't he be killed?
hollow dock
because he was born with eyes.
Illidan can be killed yea.
but he's so much demon that he returns to the nether w
ruby prawn
I mean, he in an arena
hollow dock
so he doesnt' fully die
ruby prawn
Basicalky
ruby prawn
Like we were with the unmaker
rich apex
Hopefully someone gets that joke
zinc sandal
Illidan can always come back, even if it's not in his original body
hollow dock
and he'lll magically pull the Warglaives of Azzinoth that are for some reason on fire out of his ass.
ruby prawn
And tell us important stuff
"oh yeah, really boring here, can you tell Velen to come pick me up?"
hollow dock
Illidan just made sure he didn't have to do what Halsey did
ruby prawn
"I will tell you the key to killing the void guys if you come"
hollow dock
and face the consquences of his crimes
hollow dock
taking all of Outland hostage
ruby prawn
Did it
hollow dock
enslaving the Broken
ruby prawn
For the greater good
hollow dock
slaughtering villages of Night elves
ruby prawn
Who cares for the broken
ruby prawn
It was the only way
hollow dock
My example with doctor halsey perfectly shows this
Halsey created the sparten IIs that saved humanity. She is still prosecuted as a war crimnial. Why? She commited war crimes.
zinc sandal
A crime for the greater good is still a crime.
rich apex
^
There's no indication that any of Illidan's precious sacrifices were the only way
Or had an important impact. Except for the DHs and the Keystone.
hollow dock
He said they were and immideately did it
Which I still vehemently defend the idea that he wasn't actually needed for the aquiring of the keystone
Dadghar would have found out about it and we would have found our own way to getting it
ruby prawn
Illidan and Garrosh did nothing wrong
hollow dock
#notmywarchief #notmySlayer
hollow dock
The planet earth
rich apex
:|a
ruby prawn
Europe?
hollow dock
I already said where I'm from.
hollow dock
LOL
rich apex
Beta memes
hollow dock
I have the humor of one, but you're mistaken.
ruby prawn
The kind that roleplays as a druid night eld
hollow dock
I'm very far from wise.
true matrix
lol "deduce" get outta here shitlock
hollow dock
Well. to you guys.
ruby prawn
"wise" was a joke
hollow dock
You tell em mei
ruby prawn
For the Horde or for the alliance?
hollow dock
For Azeroth.
zinc sandal
For Aiur.
ruby prawn
I am looking forward meeting you on Argus
hollow dock
Alright.
ruby prawn
Because I am in love
hollow dock
Just know, this isn't the name that appears in game.
ruby prawn
What class do u okay?
hollow dock
all of them
ruby prawn
Play*
hollow dock
My mains my Dk though
hollow dock
I love my deathgirl
zinc sandal
Exosdar x Vris
ruby prawn
Not yet pal
zinc sandal
"yet"
ruby prawn
I have to meet it
hollow dock
He still has to take me out to dinner.
zinc sandal
He? How dare you assume its gender.
zinc sandal
pfft
hollow dock
#IdontgiveafuckifurahumanIllyiffu
ruby prawn
I am just hoping vris is a female
hollow dock
I can be anything.
hollow dock
You know I could just like the glowy tentacle hair.
ruby prawn
You can't lie on the internet, can you?
hollow dock
and have just left my christmashat on. cuz of hatbot.
ruby prawn
I know where to find you
hollow dock
oh yea?
ruby prawn
In Goldshire
hollow dock
100%
ruby prawn
Or doing emissaries for xp to unlock the void elves
ruby prawn
You got exalted?
hollow dock
with all Legion reps yea
hollow dock
I just did my emissaries till the ding. Now I just fly around azeroth doing whatever.
Like farming Hydraxion Warlords rep
true matrix
@ruby prawn is that how you talk to all people you automatically assume are women?
hollow dock
I could. but Im not going to.
karmic scroll
I think I liked the old versions...
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/6Yvy7J2i9bohD2VyKsOqfz1fjKjFOPHfPzwIddr5JTg/http/wow.zamimg.com/uploads/news/12846-void-elf-and-nightborne-allied-race-crests-updated-on-warcraft-site.png?width=746&height=683
ruby prawn
Obviousky
meager warren
did you get all the legion mounts from the emissary chests from Argussian Reach and Army of the Light?
meager warren
did you get all the legion mounts from the emissary chests from Argussian Reach and Army of the Light?
hollow dock
I have my dragons and I'm happy for them.
I got all the gear i could want, rank 75 in my artifact.
ruby prawn
How to train my dragon
hollow dock
Im done with what I've wanted to do with my gameplay of the expac.
hollow dock
theres more than 2
ruby prawn
Or why are they under the Blizzard banner?
hollow dock
they work for blizzard.
karmic scroll
they hide to stop people pinging them, but they are always watching
ruby prawn
They better read the theories
hollow dock
yea. Probably scrolling through one of the chat channels.
Laughing and mocking us with their co-workers
ruby prawn
And they better tell us who the boy king is
karmic scroll
some of us yes Vris
meager warren
you must be new here
hollow dock
Just laughing at this Vris idiot.
hollow dock
Hahaha! They dont think its Anduin. Classic.
hollow dock
Welcome to the chat me boy.
we shit post, argue and maybe a civil discussion pops up where and there.
ruby prawn
Who could be a boy king
hollow dock
Anduin, most unlikely, Wrathion, Bolvar are the three that come to mind for me.
meager warren
about 99% of the shit here is argument
ruby prawn
Who is a child, an upcoming king
hollow dock
Only when you're around, Arsy~
ruby prawn
Bolivar is a man
hollow dock
I suggest not taking what the Old Gods say for literal wording Exo.
ruby prawn
Bolvar*
hollow dock
They speak in metaphor peering into every timeline at once.
Half of what they tell us doesnt even occur for us int he main timeline
ruby prawn
Alright, lore-master
true matrix
the new icons have their pros and cons but I think overall I might prefer them
ruby prawn
Oh great one
meager warren
Also, don't take anything conspiracy theorists say, seriously
true matrix
I love the inverted phoenix thing going on with the new velf icon
hollow dock
Right, Mei?
uncut vault
I like the new icons. Shows off the dusk lily more for nightborne, makes void elves look less like some edgy new style, and more like blood elf turned void
meager warren
(Lookin' at you, Vris)
hollow dock
Love ya too sweetums.
ruby prawn
I like how meigender just pops up talking to himsekf
meager warren
themselves*
hollow dock
Theyre not. They're just referencing the change to the racial icons
true matrix
there you go again with your assumptions
meager warren
^
hollow dock
While we blither on about our off topic discussions.
true matrix
and yeah, Lone posted it earlier if you weren't paying attention
ruby prawn
Is anyone suicidal?
hollow dock
I have my chat set up like a big ol' IRC while I work. So I can see pretty far back.
Only when I play a Soulsborne game.
karmic scroll
@ruby prawn thats not appropriate here
true matrix
I don't see how that's pertinent to WoW spoilers
meager warren
#no-wow-discussion @ruby prawn
uncut vault
I think both look much better. Void elf matches their backstory better, nightborne mixes the arcane and the nature look, instead of just nature
hollow dock
Shows off Thalryssa's mark better.
true matrix
I like that the arcan'dor is more clear, too
karmic scroll
teh dusk lily looks great
uncut vault
Yeah dusk lily being the main thing is nice too
ruby prawn
Ok
uncut vault
Matches their tabard
ruby prawn
Sorry
zinc sandal
HOLY SHIT
hollow dock
anyways, off I go. Later nerds.
zinc sandal
NEW CRESTS LOOK AWESOME
true matrix
@hollow dock later nerd
hollow dock
We're all nerds here.
karmic scroll
speak for yourself, I'm a geek
zinc sandal
I'm both a geek and a nerd.
ruby prawn
Why are you making assumptions Vris
ruby prawn
I didn't make assumptions
meager warren
"just pops up talking to himsekf"
ruby prawn
:))
meager warren
that was an assumption
meager warren
smh
ruby prawn
But you just came outta nowhere
meager warren
it was not like, 5 minutes ago
true matrix
you do seem to make a lot of assumptions
karmic scroll
bloody hell, i come to discuss some #beta-ptr-spoilers for once and no ones talking about them
meager warren
can you refer me to the last time i "discussed a topic like we were in the middle of it" in the time you've been here?
i've not done that today
true matrix
I think they might be mistaking you for lone
meager warren
if that's so, they're greatly mistaken. And me and Lone don't talk alike, at all
ruby prawn
Does it really matter?
meager warren
also, one of us is british
ruby prawn
I can send you Club Penguin Herbert's revenge on Nintendo DS if you are interested
If it makes you feel better
Not trying to sound smart
meager warren
that is material for #no-wow-discussion
mental onyx
Sooo is void elf "herrritage" armour barechest, or is it just missing some artwork still?
meager warren
either missing some artwork or it's bugs
tacit vine
get that bird out of here
zinc sandal
Barechest
zinc sandal
Blood Elves tend to wear skimpy clothing. It's just their culture.
uncut vault
I wish it was full bare chest. Sad that the collar isn't the helm
meager warren
Blood Elves =/= Void Elves
zinc sandal
. . .
uncut vault
Void elves are blood elves with purple and void
zinc sandal
^
uncut vault
Culturally and visually
meager warren
yes, but they're not the same
meager warren
🤦
true matrix
much like the lightforged are not typical draenei and the highmountain tauren are not typical tauren, the void elves are not typical blood elves. they are distinct.
meager warren
^
uncut vault
The people always still try to use the "high elves have no culture, they have too few numbers" when void elves exist
meager warren
Right now, the Void Elves don't exist
or rather, they do, but not in mass quantities
zinc sandal
It has not been long enough for them to break free from Blood Elven culture completely. Hell, Blood Elves are do things exactly like High Elves, but in blue.
Also, they don't, at all.
meager warren
Just like the Nightborne do things like Night Elves but they're a completely different race?
zinc sandal
They may have been exiled, but they're not Void Elves yet. Not until Alleria takes them in.
Nightborne don't do things like Night Elves.
uncut vault
Not even void elves when alleria takes em in. Only become void elves when the ethereal prince fucks them up
meager warren
I mean, the Nightborne and Night Elves are similar in respect that they're both elves but
uncut vault
10k years of isolation from each other =/=coloring your armor purple after being pushed to the goth kid table
zinc sandal
^
meager warren
Just like Blood Elves have an entirely different culture than Void Elves?
not to mention different everything
zinc sandal
??
uncut vault
They don't, that's kinda our point.
zinc sandal
We have no idea what Void Elf culture even is.
true matrix
blood elves worship the sun
zinc sandal
Void magic shit is culture? Wow
true matrix
that's something of a counterpoint to the whole void thing
meager warren
Void Elves worship the void
zinc sandal
Worship? No
meager warren
🤦
zinc sandal
They wield the Void, but they do not worship it.
uncut vault
Magic isn't culture. Clothing and buildings are a part of culture. And as of now, the only difference between the two is purple vs red
zinc sandal
Magic is part of a culture, but it isn't culture itself.
uncut vault
Religion is culture, void elves have shown no sign of being void worshippers
zinc sandal
^
uncut vault
Same way alleria hasn't
zinc sandal
It's like saying mages worship the Arcane
meager warren
cul·ture
ˈkəlCHər/Submit
noun
noun: culture
1.
the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.
"20th century popular culture"
synonyms: the arts, the humanities, intellectual achievement; More
a refined understanding or appreciation of this.
"men of culture"
synonyms: intellectual/artistic awareness, education, cultivation, enlightenment, discernment, discrimination, good taste, taste, refinement, polish, sophistication
"a man of culture"
the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.
plural noun: cultures
"Caribbean culture"
synonyms: civilization, society, way of life, lifestyle; More
the attitudes and behavior characteristic of a particular social group.
"the emerging drug culture"
2.
BIOLOGY
the cultivation of bacteria, tissue cells, etc., in an artificial medium containing nutrients.
"the cells proliferate readily in culture"
a preparation of cells obtained from a culture.
"the bacterium was isolated in two blood cultures"
the cultivation of plants.
"this variety of lettuce is popular for its ease of culture"
synonyms: cultivation, farming; More
verbBIOLOGY
verb: culture; 3rd person present: cultures; past tense: cultured; past participle: cultured; gerund or present participle: culturing
1.
maintain (tissue cells, bacteria, etc.) in conditions suitable for growth.
uncut vault
That was a delicious nothing burger
zinc sandal
XD
meager warren
it's the definition of "culture" you uncultured casual
zinc sandal
wor·ship
ˈwərSHəp/
noun
noun: worship
1.
the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.
"the worship of God"
sinónimos:
reverence, veneration, adoration, glorification, glory, exaltation; Más
devotion, praise, thanksgiving, homage, honor;
archaicmagnification
"the worship of idols"
the acts or rites that make up a formal expression of reverence for a deity; a religious ceremony or ceremonies.
"the church was opened for public worship"
sinónimos:
service, religious rite, prayer, praise, devotion, religious observance
"morning worship"
adoration or devotion comparable to religious homage, shown toward a person or principle.
"our society’s worship of teenagers"
sinónimos:
admiration, adulation, idolization, lionization, hero worship
"he contemplated her with worship"
archaic
honor given to someone in recognition of their merit.
British
used in addressing or referring to an important or high-ranking person, especially a magistrate or mayor.
noun: His Worship; noun: Your Worship; plural noun: Worships
"we were soon joined by His Worship the Mayor"
verb
verb: worship; 3rd person present: worships; past tense: worshipped; past participle: worshipped; gerund or present participle: worshipping; past tense: worshiped; past participle: worshiped; gerund or present participle: worshiping
1.
show reverence and adoration for (a deity); honor with religious rites.
"the Maya built jungle pyramids to worship their gods"
meager warren
i'm not sure how i ever used the word "worship" wrong
floral gyro
do we know if the nightborne worship elune out of curiosity
zinc sandal
You said Velves worship the Void
meager warren
well they don't worship the sun anymore!
zinc sandal
@floral gyro They might? But not as much, if at all
uncut vault
Void elves don't worship the void. They researched it, and had it thrust upon them. Nowhere have alleria or the void elves shown signs of reverence
floral gyro
i dont think the belves worship the sun
wild pewter
They harness its power, as far as I know.
uncut vault
Blood elves do revere the sun, since the hard winter that occurred before they found quelthalas
meager warren
^
zinc sandal
Yeah
uncut vault
There's no sign that void elves have changed from the ideas they had as blood elves. Only difference is blue skin and hentai hair, and a decision to make their red armor purple
zinc sandal
They will, eventually, of course.
dusky ginkgo
About that: http://www.wowhead.com/news=281233/void-elf-and-nightborne-allied-race-crests-updated-on-warcraft-site?webhook/void-elf-and-nightborne-allied-race-crests-updated-on-warcraft-site
I love the new Nightborne crest, but I think the first one for the Void Elves was better
zinc sandal
As is only natural
uncut vault
They'll probably go the way of the high elves, and integrate back into the alliance
meager warren
uncut vault
Void elves didn't follow darkhans teachings when they were kicked out so
zinc sandal
That is also another player's post, not Blizzard's.
uncut vault
They found his teachings after they were kicked out, which made Umbric understand why rommath wanted them gone
hollow dock
Because void elves threaten the society of the blood elves :v
meager warren
Darkhan was a minion of the Lich King
hollow dock
Nothin more or less.
zinc sandal
They are
meager warren
The Void Elves are minions of the Void
hollow dock
Shadow magic is still shadow magic.
meager warren
it's the same thing
uncut vault
We're kinda discussing the void elf one now, Ivay. New one is a lot more "fallen blood elf" than the last one
zinc sandal
Lmao Arsonite
zinc sandal
Void Elves are not minions of the Void. They literally fight FOR us.
hollow dock
They fight with us.
zinc sandal
True, true
meager warren
You cannot fight against the Void since the Void is all-consuming
zinc sandal
My bad
hollow dock
Arson
Thats exactly what Alleria did
And is still doing. She teaches the void corrupted elves how to fight it off.
meager warren
but.. she used the void magic she gained from the corrupt naaru, didn't she?
zinc sandal
Which changes them and gives them a certain advantage
hollow dock
She has. You dont immediately go insane from touching void magic. Well. The weak willed people do.
meager warren
The Void Elves exist because of Shadow.
The Death Knights exist because of Death.
They're the same thing, but with different "masters", so to speak
hollow dock
Their magic comes from the same source yes this is true.
meager warren
Not to mention that Disorder, Death, and Shadow are one-half of the spectrum of elements.
hollow dock
Alleria teaches the void elves to repress the whispers and harness the void for the alliance. Much like what shadowpriests do.
zinc sandal
^
meager warren
Void Elves and Death Knights are closer than you people think
hollow dock
We arent saying they arent?
zinc sandal
SPriests are probably at a lot more risk, though. Or could potentially be.
uncut vault
They're similar when looked at through a scope, but they have completely different contexts
hollow dock
Indeed.
meager warren
What was "Lmao Arsonite" if not attempting to assert superiority and thinking that you know any more than i do?
hollow dock
Deathknights deal with the manipualtion of souls and flesg
zinc sandal
Wow he's in his feelings. Let me just not say anything.
meager warren
Wow, you're in your arrogance
hollow dock
They use shadow magic to do so, but dont practice what say a shadow priest would.
zinc sandal
❤
hollow dock
Which a shadow priest draws directly from the void to empower them to destroy their enemies minds.
zinc sandal
Yeah
hollow dock
While it's all shadow magic, theyre not the same or as close as you'd think.
ruby prawn
Regarding who "the boy king" is. Could it be Farondis? He was clumsy, currently a new king, inexperienced. He is seen fighting Aszhara. Maybe he is using the void to find a way to kill Aszhara
meager warren
Except for the fact that they both draw from the three Dark Magics
uncut vault
I always interpreted it as scratching the surface vs diving in
hollow dock
That could also be it Port.
zinc sandal
Yeah, that's good
uncut vault
Drawing from it vs becoming it is also a reasonable interpretation
zinc sandal
That'd be the difference between Velves and SPriests, yeah
zinc sandal
We're all sinners here. What are you referring to exactly?
hollow dock
shuffles notes I dont agree to it. Because of....uh....continues to shuffle notes
tacit vine
I am no heretic
zinc sandal
Because you're Vris and that's your job
ruby prawn
Could you offer some sort of feedback?
hollow dock
Yes exactly there we go.
hollow dock
Mess, Boy doesnt have to mean age.
ruby prawn
He still commands his oeople
true matrix
he is a prince, though.
zinc sandal
Keep trying
hollow dock
SHAMEFUL* I GOT IT
zinc sandal
👏🏼
hollow dock
Fat fingers on such a small screen.
true matrix
lol shaneful
hollow dock
I just imagined Farondis as Shane from TWD
ruby prawn
I am betting my money on Farondis
hollow dock
Its an interesting one to say the least Exo.
ruby prawn
I was thinking of Baine or even Khadgar
zinc sandal
Baine... Hmm.
ruby prawn
But can't really agree on Baine
zinc sandal
There's a few possibilities.
ruby prawn
Khadgar would be a good possibility
hollow dock
I think it wouldn't be baine thanks to Magthera
zinc sandal
Tauren?
hollow dock
My bet will always be on Wrathion.
ruby prawn
But he is no king
zinc sandal
I think Wrathion is a solid possibility. Even though he's a self-procclaimed prince.
hollow dock
He's the last remaining child of the former 'king' of the black dragonflight.
hollow dock
Last child. Not the last black dragon.
ruby prawn
He had no interaction with anyone in Legion
hollow dock
The nether dragonflight is still technically apart of the black flight.
zinc sandal
Isn't Ebonhorn also Deathwing's son?
ruby prawn
His appearance in 7.3.5 might suggest something
tacit vine
ebonhorn is old af
hollow dock
Nah hes just from a random clutch. We dont know if it was specifically deathwing or not.
zinc sandal
Oh well
ruby prawn
Yes, but boy could relate to something else rather than age
wild pewter
Wrathion was in the Deaths of Chromie thing, but that was it.
hollow dock
Aspects tend to share nesting areas with other dragons so its unear.
Unclear*
My point is that Wrathion is supposedly researching into his father.
wild pewter
I'd like to see some more of him at some point!
ruby prawn
I don't want to see wrsthion
ruby prawn
I don't like his char model
zinc sandal
WHat about Wrathion's model do you not like?
zinc sandal
??
ruby prawn
The turban
zinc sandal
I think he looks fancy.
ruby prawn
The eyes
Maybe Kalec is the boy king
That would be more interesting
He would have to fight Jaina
Which he loves
ruby prawn
I am the senate
zinc sandal
Rawr?
true matrix
I'm a cat. feed me
zinc sandal
feeds the kitty
steel venture
PSA: He's not Deathwings son.
Nyxondra was credited as being a daughter of Deathwing.
Hes his grandson
zinc sandal
Who?
hollow dock
Eh same difference :v he's deathwings last living lineage that we know of
zinc sandal
XD
steel venture
do you blame meeeee.
huln named him ebonhorn gimme a breaak.
uncut vault
He still sees deathwing as his father figure, which is what matters
steel venture
imo i still like the theory that fahrad is his biological father but yknow
hollow dock
Fawho now
uncut vault
The black dragon we kill st the end of fangs of the father
The one that was with him all along
Which btw, “fangs of the father”
Unless wrathion was already a daddy
I’d say they refer to DW
hollow dock
I never did that questline. Where do the daggers themselves come from? Deathwings essence or?
uncut vault
All from his raid, final item to make them the fangs are from deathwing
mint arch
@plain vigil sao huh.... clears throat SOA is cancer, absolute trash anime, terrible storyline bar the first few eps of s1
i could go on~
dense plover
not the place to discuss this void
you know you can ping someone in a different channel right?
mental onyx
Void elves are way closer to blood elves then HIGH mountain taurens are to moolgore tauren
dusky ginkgo
Hey fair folks, what's the argument this time?
mental onyx
They are basically a splinter faction of them. They are more of a class than a race.
dense plover
lol
all allied races are just a split
its not based on dna
this isnt a science based game
dusky ginkgo
(Which would be a cool game)
mental onyx
It specifically says that nightwell energies mutated and changed the night elves, and then they obviously stayed isolated in their purple bubble.
The difference benetween void elves and blood elves is a lot smaller than that
They are basically like what would happen if Wrynn finally decided to kick all the warlocks from slaughter lamb inn
dense plover
no
void elves are mutated by the void energy
highmountain were changed through magic
and are significantly different culutrally
lightforged are culutrally and historically two separate peoples
and also lightforging
uncut vault
All thalassian elves are just political factions
mental onyx
Voild elves CHOOSE to become void elves (much like classes become classes)
uncut vault
They do not choose
An ethereal turns them into void elves, they only choose to research the void
dusky ginkgo
They choose to pursue the thing that ultimatly transformed them? I guess it could be accepted as "choose".
They are transformed after being exiled, right?
uncut vault
Yes
mental onyx
Yes, and night elves and blood elves following illidan choose to research better ways to kill demons (which apprently involved eating demon meat, and taking deamon soul into themselves)
dusky ginkgo
I would then accept that ultimatly, they may have not choose the transformation directly but they actively pursued an accident-to-happen and so "choose" their state.
(Note: This is my opinion, not a general statement)
uncut vault
They didn’t pursue the Nexus prince. He wasn’t anywhere near quelthalas till alleria stirred him up st the sunwell.
mental onyx
From everything I hear Void Elves are a lot closer to what classes are in this game then "race" but obviously they are being treated as a race for game play reaons
dusky ginkgo
It's late and I lack the vocabulary to explain myself better, remind me that argument tomorrow evening Porter
uncut vault
Where do you live that it’s that late?
dusky ginkgo
22h45, France
uncut vault
Oh, EU, understandable
dusky ginkgo
Why, what hour it is for you?
mental onyx
13:47 here
uncut vault
1:47 pm for me
dusky ginkgo
Yep, I'll let you keep the argument peacefully, Ill be back tomorrow, sooner. x)
mint arch
@dense plover not disucssing anything mate, he made an offhand mention of SAO, i made an offhand reply to it. We aren't talking about it anymore, hence i said "i could go on" and if we did, ya, wouldnt talk about it here
glass chasm
hmm no paladin at horde for the new races...
hollow dock
You may get highmountain to be paladins later
glass chasm
hmmm but not at the moment
uncut vault
The starter classes definitely seem like just a starter batch to me
hollow dock
well yea. None of the horde adding races is known to use the light in such a way :v
Only one out of all the races we're getting are Dark Iron and, of course, Lightforged.
uncut vault
the first four only have five or six, right?
glass chasm
zandalari has i think all class exept paladin and DH 😄
hollow dock
The Highmountain/Lightforged have 5 each
uncut vault
I can see them getting some more combos in the future.
glass chasm
Zandalari has 9 classes
hollow dock
Zandalari isnt apart of the first four
uncut vault
We dont know their classes yet
glass chasm
Zandalari is one of the first allied races we will have in the add on
uncut vault
we know druid and shaman confirmed
hollow dock
No it isnt
Lightforged/Void Elves for the alliance and Highmountain/Nightborne will be added way before we get Zandalari/Dark Iron
glass chasm
So you will say blizzard is seeling a feature but not deliver it with the release of the add on?
hollow dock
Wha?
uncut vault
the first four are probably releasing before the xpac
prepatch at latest
zandalari and dark iron are max level BfA content
hollow dock
The first four will most likely get released with yea the prepatch like Demon Hunters and Monks were released early for those who bought BFA early.
glass chasm
Yes ok but i didn't ask for that and I'm not interesset in thins which COULD BE released in the pre patch as a promotion - Zandalari are part of the add on - fact
hollow dock
No they are not
Zandalari are apart of Allied Races, yes. But they specifically are tied to the end game of Battle For Azeroth where-as the other four of these six are tied to things in legion.
glass chasm
I repeat my sentence,... zandalari are part of the add on - fact - In BFA you will play a zandalari allied races
hollow dock
In fact, the first four, Velves, Light goats, French elves, and mooses are already in the retail client.
true matrix
use "xpac" instead of "addon" for clarity maybe
deep frigate
would a void-touched naga be known as Aqua Velve
hollow dock
No idea.
In BFA yes you will. Yes they VERY LIKELY WILL break up the allied races to padd content
jovial coral
I want to see a gold dipped naga