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so is there no level skip yet?
Unknown.
hope not to long from now
on or before june 30th 2026
Pre-patch is said to be around late January based on datamines.
cant wait to lvl my alts in it
I guess I'll try beta next week cause I won't level a char
i have alot of char that need to lvl up
same lol
you should be able to copy a char, it's just overwhelmed right now and being a shit
dang
not a fan personally
It's so slow
Yea
harronir have so many customizations, im impressed
if it keeps failing to copy my char, i'm gonna lose my entire mind and what's left of my sanity. been trying for half an hour now
u able to test now?
this probably means arathor is getting an updated mount model finally
the female hair is broken thoT__T
sry for the ping forgot to untick
just turn highlight to none
idk where it is
kinda looks like a scarlet mount
Wow ๐ฎ
it is a scarlet mounts, it's listed as quest reward
ok ty peach
bumbed by the background
ima try to make one again
Should I retry to open the game? I'm still stuck in Retrieveing character list for like 10 minutes.
lol chill ur selkf it was a joke about wrong faction
Yea I'm stuck on retrieving character list
yeah reads super well
not like you complaining they dont have a racial character create background
It is unplayable. 
duuude i want some of these mounts so bad like ALOT OF THEM ARE PRETTY COOL
it IS unplayable, thats accurate
Yea can't get in.
I LOVE MY PURPLE OWL BUT DAMN THERES SO MANY GOOD NEW MODELS
cant make a character, cant copy
itll be fixed
they posted about it
said they were working on it
give it a few hours
But some people got new characters so somehow you play, right?
lmao u so being so defensive i know its a beta i know what that implies
nope, broken game blizzard is dead
Imagine playing Beta from your Mac Laptop. ๐คฃ
so they need to bring beta online to figure out they have a problem and they actually need a few more hours to fix that problem....way to go Blizz ups Activision, i mean Microsoft
i couldnt actually create the character - it failed
thats what a beta is my guy
its broken and needs testing
Beta is not early access yall
early access is 3 days before expac launch
weโre going to have like 3+ months to play it
100 of players will never discover what 1000s of players will find
I've been playing Wow since End of alpha vanilla and it was way worse than that. It's beta, things are not stable
I see, hm. Maybe wait a bit then, maybe few hours. ๐
yes
hopefully ppl actualy report and stuff
characters are created but they don't log in
Also speaking for myself theyโre getting hammered right now, even purchasing midnight is crashing the ingame shop
oh yusss
Damn
haha looks similar to what i made
i wanna try make a satyr exept for the legs
good taste
its hard to put all these dark tones on dark skin 
Unfortunate side effect of making it a paid access, people will be treating it like this
and thats why we laugh at them and treat them like the idiots they are
idk yet tho they are all so good
im so surprised they let you customize the spike colors separately
Yep. Granted lets be honest 99% of people including myself will probably just use it as a quick preview, but if shit doesn't work... whatever ill wait til launch to shittalk them
i use it to report bugs when i can play
new races get benefits
alpha was uh
messy
so many crashes made that difficult
it was worse than previous alphas
and you're exceptionally good at that with your track record, I can't even begin to imagine how you can find so many
thicc. waifus
too bad i cant actually play her bcuz it wont let me make the character
i just complain about everything
I report what I can when I can but I can never find so many
even IRL
lmao
i mainly focused on like 5 delves and every zone but harandar and void storm
I wish i would been in alpha atleast once but as im pretty much going there for 0 reasons of reporting stuff and just focusing on screenshots it doesnt really give me a pass for it.
i was so busy i didnt have time to test those and the servers werent stable enough'
also reported a ton of housing issues
And honestly it sound just so much of an bad idea even to do screenshots on alpha cause ton of the stuff will be changed by the beta.
like items not having icons, or the default furniture size for some items being too big
it actually burned me out a bit
eh
probably not that much
more npcs in silvermoon hopefully
still feels kinda empty
yall I CANT CHOOSE IM GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN IT OFFICIALLY RELEASES
but i get it - the zone is big and gonna be laggy with players
I rmbr when i got to Cataclysm beta and lot of quests were still incomplete. Like the Abyss Searhorse questline.
im curious if we have maps for silvermoon and eversong yet
You literally have months, calm tf down xD
Alleria bow was some placeholder for almost entire beta in some parts of the quests as well during TWW
also updated eastern kingdoms map would be nice
sorry im just so excited
i love haranir as soon as i saw them in the TWW trailer
still placeholder in some live quests lol
during bc beta it was the infamous zangarmarsh naga female model bug. They were stuck with their arms opens and if they had aggro on you it would disconnect you
I swear i reported those bows already during beta 
lua errors moving action bars is so fun
And people wonder why i even ended up eventually giving up doing reports.
I think those reports ends up on a backlog of " not priority fixes "
weird i didnt choose this name but it did actually make my haranir
gaah my game broke again
did u test the macros rantsi?
Just like the ZG mount exploits that were never fixed
Nah still havent logged to retail. i did copy them tho
i logged out then in
i really wanna play mine but i think i just crashed lmao
im stuck though
stuck?
lol u know ultra ๐
ah
i dont have twitter SO I DONT SEE THIS SHIT
LMAO
yeah nearly 1000 long queue the minute it went up was a clue
Seems it partially works. interestingly enough... But things like mounts wont get hidden
I'll save that macro for future and go cry in a corner why i wasted over 2 decades of trying to take screenshots the wrong way
yeh forgot to say mounts and druids in shapesfit forms will not be effected
Enough of this. Iโm going in!
there is no music yet.
hoped they added in beta
All variables align. Perfectionโฆ achieved.
im in!
have fun ๐
I think your login screen is a little... messed up ๐
remind me of those owl skeletons
wait u get to play around with ears and whatnot for druid forms?
sick
Old news, its been in the dressing room for weeks
So cute!
i dont follow wow super closly exept a nobbel stream now and then
Yeah im pulling out for tonight. i was kinda hoping to get headstart on quest screenshots from the beta. Hopefully the tomorrow is bit better
Cant really stay sitting here when i got work in 8 hours 
how doi use travel form when im in a flyin area, i wanna be otter not bat T__T
Oh man this is rough without my UI haha
not sure you can
same lmaoo
that's the deer form isn't it
no
?
the deer form is travel form, but it's ONLY deer form
probably, it's a seperate spell

ye it's dumb
HUH
its mount form not travel
it based it on ur race
so ig since haranir have otters its otter but others its deer
no
or am I just stupid or somt
Tome of the Wilds: Mount Form
it goes by race
THE OTTER IS S O CUTE IMA BE IN THIS FORM ALOOOT
yall my troll druid is retiring
T_T
NE druid > rest
Anyone still having issues creating Harnirs?
ALL DRUID FORMS HAVE ADANCE ANIMATION ICNLUDING THE OTTER
OH MY GOD U GUYS
BIS XPAC
I got one
Before i go to sleep i just wanted to point out that i was only able to create level 1 toons for the time being personally. As twitter etc stated other stuff is semibroken
does anyone know if neighbourhoods are cross faction? like for guild or charter neighbourhoods?
I got to the creation page, but it failed to create it. Tried relaunching the game, still not showing.
50/50 . Depends on the cycle of the moons etc
tap dancing otter
I need them to not have the bat being as flappy as it is though while on the barbar, it make me pukey
UR FRIENDS CAN RIDE U AS OTTER
Nice
ive never felt so happy seeing druid stuff since legion
as a belf druid i was the same with the dream forms we got in df
the owlbeast ๐
I'm using my lv80 boost for a haranir druid
same
im so excited
im not sure if i wanna play boomkin or feral yet tho, maybe boomkin bcuz somthing new
otter has me SOLD
Still can't get in
lol I was teleported to Terrokar forest somehow during a quest
They made Arcane Explosion a fire spell now?
For some reason I don't see the harnier race
gotta hav al vl 80 first
Sucks because my level 80 won't copy over
Guessing copying character works with everyone
But me
u gotta log out once it says failed and hope it pops up
I see, looks like the character keeps failing to create
not working with me either
Xal throwing giant void poop at paladins
Anyway, when you finish the prologue it's a lot less laggy and normal.
Are any of the PTR's for Oce? This 180 ping is rough
Anyone else getting this when going into Silvermoon?
is anyone able to create or copy a character????
it changed to campsite but it still wonโt let me copy
it keeps failing
weird
does the realm matter
oh guess a new character worked
not sure its fixed
copy account data still isnt working
nvm - it worked but took forever
char creation with template still failed tho
Teldrassil's tenacity
joins the Horde
these are weird since they already have their racials
wonder if its like a zone area buff instead
like when you are near the roots of these
ye definitely not fixed
hopefully
not a huge fan of the expansion from what i have seen so far
ur just mad its not gnome based
@dense plover dont know if you saw already
they actually did it
they put the hub in the MIDDLE
FINALLY
Has anyone had any luck with copying their character on the Midnight Beta?
gurl... i am mad cuz its bad... not cuz they seemingly completely ignored the Gnomanity yet again
? how is itbad
just got in
theres this one too
Screw Gnomanity
As relevant as sand in egypt.
I love how you can make Haranir look like SUPERIOR Night Elves
Love 'em!
also belly
they are soooo much better than expected
My face whenever Niko yaps about "Gnomes" for the 700th time this month.
LOL FR
I feel like Survival Hunter will be it for me, as they can dual-wield now, and i can live out my Farstrider fantasy ๐
so can we lvl to 90 or do we wait for future beta updates
the lag is so bad i cant test
you can
if you can get past the intro
๐ oh shi is the intro laggy
mhm.
@uncut linteli thought each Beta Phase we go up 3?
can a fersh lvl 80 haranir do any quests or no
yes
thats what the template is for
but again - laggy
ok ty
kitty its ur life do what u want
We have ALbundy/AI
they have a fancy screen
how did you get it to 80 so fast 
@dense ploveru look like Raiden
template char dude
GOD THEY ARE PERFECT
thats just the default monk armor
has been since like warlords
ppl will hear my rants abt haranir untill release im so sorry
๐ฃ You can get arator's sword btw!!!
nice
I remember a few weeks ago some ppl were asking for it to be added as a drop, so glad we got it- such a good sword
how lol
they killed alot of classes, they are reworking all of em
good pet needs love too
gaah game craashed
Surely Gelbin is in the midnight dlc
niko
stop coping
Horde Haranir ๐
what
can u stop being annoying for 5 minutes

ask support
thats understandable though
:T
anyways Horde Haranir ๐ซต ๐
well ucan be over there crying abt no gnomes
and ill be over here being happy i get owls, and otters and the superior race
WITH animated druid forms
gaaah why is my game crashing all of a sudden
ur blocked
i clicked ignore ๐ and it still loaded but now its suuuper laggy and no one is here
praying haranir boomkin form gets more options cuz i want more feathers
Trust me, block button works.
yea but it ruins my chat
LOL
omg what a food 
How do you create Velf DH? I can't seem to find the NPC to unlock it to template create one
Unless I'm dumb lol
๐ u cant be a void elf DH
O i thought that's what the devourer was, in additon to the new spec
Don't think VElf DHs are in testing yet? Might be wrong
they are
Both Belf and Nelf DH can be Devourer.
they have been
Aah
pretty sure since alpha 1 tbh
They're available on beta or no? In the creation screen it says it needs to be unlocked but I wasn't sure how
become mount plz
theres a quest in dornogal
you might be able to make them via a template tho
pretty sure it is
there are a bunch of the florafaun as mounts
I tried to, said it had to be unlocked before it could be made via template T_T
Do you know which NPC by chance?
ig its just not in the journal but im prayig
its the void elf leader
Magister Umbric?
like - at the main area
yeah
like - near the table
in dornogal
you might have to copy account data, and you maybe have to have done the first part on karesh thats already a thing
we dont 100% know the requirements
Mm I'll see if I can find the VElf leader. I already copied my main character to the beta and that character is current in story
better enjoy shotguns haha
The loading screen of death
ok so arator is most definitely getting a "warbringer" short before the expansion launch right
based on the missing cutscene when he got summoned to the sunwell- reads like its gonna be one of those
i wanna test so badly but i need to suffer through 7 more class order halls and mount quest lines in remix ๐
or u ca n just buy it from vendor
also not much to test anyway
we literally cant do anything its so laggy
it took 10 minutesfor my friend to get a quest
you can't buy the hidden FoS for doing alll the class halls and mounts
having it
๐
Yeah, as I said in the secrets discord, I draw the line at any achievement that doesn't reward a cosmetic or title.
i mean, each one has it's own reward for housing iirc just the meta doesn't have anything rn besides just earning it
THEY ALREADY AAARRE
though we gotta talk about the men chewing cud while casting lol
considering we still have nelf voicelines, I'm praying that they get the zandalari treatment and new combat animations
cause dear god nothing is a larger turnoff than nelf animations
isnt that just night elf animations lmao
zandalari got diff ones
i like some of the nelf animations but yes i want diff ones
nelf combat animations overwhelmingly are the worst
not the I joined the Horde despite them burning Teldrassil and constant deforestation race to my knowledge ๐ค
at least on the mage and shaman "preview" their mouth keeps moving like they're chewing gum lol
can u stop pinging me with nonsense
haha yes they chewing mint leaves
what u mean nonsense ๐ญ
...
LMAO
it 100% is, he even gets a model change from it
in 11.2.7 his armor is normal and intact, in Midnight he shows up with the tassels permanently burned by holy fire
isnt the burning from turalyon almost killing him?
Nope, it starts showing up right from the intro scenario
and he comments on it to Alleria later in Voidstorm
I'm surprised there's no model change for the Turalyon attack though tbh
figure they'd add a scar or something, since they're already willing to give him model changes so small
i mean they might
and theyre hiding it
but yeah i thought the burning was that
I really wonder if theyโre gonna try and develop the fan theory that the true child of light and shadow is Arator rather than Illidan
I love when she remembers she has to pretend not to be a Night Elf after she lands and widens her stance
Quoting Portergauge ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ (@Portergauge)
๏ธ
Haranir have committed the ultimate theft from Night Elves: their special jump animation.
๐ค
seen ppl make nightborne, night elf, and orcs
this race got too much 
the girls r soo pretty
the intro area lag is legit unacceptable
its 10-15 sec or more
idk whats wrong on the backend but this is scary - this shouldnt happen ever in an mmo
they added the stove i requested!
they added a cooking trainer a few builds ago but no stove/fire
don't know if its intentional but you can access housing on PTR still.
this is changed
are hunts max level only? thats so lame
treasure in fairbreeze that just gives you the item that the treasure looks like
i like this
ping me if u guys find any cat themed housing items
no idea what that is but it looks coooool
its an armillary
theyre navigational tools
An armillary sphere (variations are known as spherical astrolabe, armilla, or armil) is a model of objects in the sky (on the celestial sphere), consisting of a spherical framework of rings, centered on Earth or the Sun, that represent lines of celestial longitude and latitude and other astronomically important features, such as the ecliptic. As...
YES!!! I would love a cat tree- i might have to see if i can make a cat tree out of some items
its a real thing
oh snap gotcha
no like actual items
not ones we make
not a navigational tool
i know, i was just saying like, i may have to get creative just if they dont give us anything ๐
but still - a real thing and the model is fairly accurate
they will i believe
cat thihngs ALWAYS sell
alot of ppl bought 1 year sub just for a cat mount
true- i would love that so much
plz plz blizz let me have a stable for mounts and pet cats in my house
which makes sense since we already have the haranir racials
eventually
not at launch
but it is planned
omg
my guess is one of the patches during the expac
like - base core functionality is more important right now
DRUID THEME HERE I COME
for example, you cant place lights outside
because when you could the entire zone lagged to death
LOL
as long as we get it later down the line ill be happy
everquest 2 u could place mounts inside ur house
This might be the worst ping in beta history lol
is it still alggy as fuck?
more d/c's in the cities than lag
Is there a realm for OCE players?
i just want to play beta but i cant its soo laggy :< the only thin possible is haranir tree area and afk in orgrimmar
So basically 100% of the game for you?
no
i wanted to do some of the uh quests
in the belf
but u cant bcuz its 5-10 mins for an action
I'll keep it in beta channel.
It's simple, and I'll add some crystal lighting when I can get my hands on some exterior ones. I'm oddly proud of how it turned out.
The walls ate so much decor space.
Deleted World Tree passive post because there's evidence they aren't realted to Haranir and are something else.
๏ธ๏ธ
๏ธ๏ธThank god for that.
LETS GOOOOO
anyone get damage meters working
i literally posted what it is
you dont need twitter, you need to scroll back like two hours
give back
they better not turn the scarlet krusade into good guys wft
If manari can be considered good, I imagine blizz would do anything in regards to that.
TBF the difference is that the scarlets arenโt extra customisations, theyโre just normal humans. So if they joined us they just wouldnโt be scarlets anymore
I know. But they still did some heinous stuff.
@dense plover . im assuming you already knew but both wowhead quicklink and idtip seem to work just fine in midnight beta
Seems my screenshot toys did not get transferred over so its to WOD zones first ๐
EDIT: Second transfer fixed it.
I swear on TWW beta the item / toy copy worked just fine
Usual Dressing room problems huh ๐
Croquette Liadrin
Hmm any idea how this could be altered so it doesnt make everything look graphically horrible after that?
I'll try to cut out at this and hope it still works
/run local n,m if GetCVar("componentTexLoadLimit")=="0" then n=6 m=2 else n=0 m=1 end
Apparently it doesnt seem to work once i cut out that much
Actually it seems i can still use that same command and manually set everything back to high. problem resolved
Marge Simpson
Whaat. poof it only happaned once
The game cannot handle your sheer aura.
anyone seen this error before? Just attacking mobs when it happens
acess violation, u cant dps thats illegal lmao
Before I make a feedback ticket, when you create a new void elf demon hunter, is it supposed to happen after the event of Argus? ( I need to be sure of the temporality there )
I supppose so. Any VE char creation so far happens after argus
So Locus Walker should NOT be on Telogrus anymore
but then, you make a levl 10 void elf DH that needs to do the previous expansion before coming into midnight so, Locus Walker is also supposed to be there, so we enter in a weird time ache loop
I made a following report " Locus walker should not be on telogrus anymore as long as we are in the current timeline "
they aren't going to create a new phase just for void elf DH sitting in Telogrus. Yes Void Elf DHs are post K'aresh but Telogrus as a starting zone/pre-TWW quest area is still there.
sure but actually, everyone creates a character in the current timeline and chromie send us backward in time to experience the past expansion, so it fits
eh, starting zones are often time locked.
well, not for the DH , you just happen to load there and directly take a portal to stormwind
thats... the same for all allied races?
I don't remember. Wondering if Void Elf dont have to do some stuff in their starting area and leave when they reach lvl 10
Hmmm. I mean, they do change stuff like that- like the warchiefs, whose on the throne in stormwind
and so on
they don't even have to make a phase though, " if player character class is DH, then X npc is invisible "
solved
I don't think they are gonna worry about it though
It isn't even really a capitol city.
sure, it's something minor
but that's the first thing that made me " wth " if you're fresh on K'aresh storyline
technically you can make a void elf dh without doing the raid right?
yes but to unlock them the quest happens to be in Silvermoon
during the void invasion
then you go in K'aresh to help Allari train a void elf in the way of DH and after that Umbric and her exchange their knowledge and offer to extend the training of Ren'dorei
what? I could've sworn you were getting void elf dh in prepatch, Silvermoon makes 0 sense there
You unlock the spec via a quest in Midnight
The quest happens to be in Silvermoon as of now. Maybe it'll be moved to the prepatch , we don't know anything about it for now
Or I mean, void elves
so you aren't getting it in prepatch then which will be a massive kerfuffle.
Void elf DHs will not be in prepatch from what we see, no.
And it is after the base story from what I can tell
Cause you go to voidstorm for it
no you do not
it's only happening on K'aresh with three quick quest without any real depth
it better move because no one is going to want to level a void elf or pay for the race change during the initial rush of the expansion. That's literally prepatch type stuff
I agree
It's the next day and still, copying characters in the beta is still broken. Waited hours after I copied my characters and with multiple restarts and still nothing. So weird how it's working for lots of people.
I dunno honestly. The starting quest could easily be moved I guess, and when you finish it you are left stranded on K'aresh so maybe its meant to be in the 2.7
the audacity
I mean lots of people don't want to level just for the sake of levelling in a beta
I get blizzard wants that type of testing, but it's not gonna be the most popular thing
So this week is a bit of a "try an 80 you really wanna see but don't expect anything that new unless you want spoilers"
Blizzard should've let us take all 4 apex at 80
Does anyone know how to get level 90 without leveling etc and things bc i donโt wanna spoil anything for me i just want to try talents and things u know
wait til next week
Oh oki thx
anyone have any luck today or is it still impossible lag
Hello, I know the beta is for testing, and it's normal for it to be unstable. But I'm getting several error messages that force the game to crash: things like "violating" and the servers being down. Do you think Blizzard could release some kind of update to make the beta more stable and fix the real bugs ? It's a little frustrating, I must admit, but with each beta, I'm there to hunt for bugs, which I believe should be reported to make the game more stable and enjoyable.
blizzard will release an update when they release an update so maybe next year 
access violations are data for WoW, we'll see if they fix this week
help
i quit/restarted bnet after the beta kicked me, and now i cant log in
says 'character already exists' and seems to be in limbo. tried deletion, says it failed
Servers are crapping, me and my friends also cant log. Seems to be blizzard related
servers killed? xD
yup
it said in game chat it was going down
the main quest is in Dornogal with Umbric
the Silvermoon one is just for once we get past prepatch
Ah ! I did not have the system message in the housing, something worth reporting
so that people still see it and do it in Midnight proper
It says no beta servers are up
Alright, to be franc in dornogal there were " ! " everywhere so I did not look at all of them I went directly for the midnight one
yup servers are down , they did a restart
Oki
yall reading up like 3 posts is your friend
Is it me or do the housing item collection seems... lacking, for the moment ? Or is there a secret source somewhere or items to buy ? (outside of craftings )
There a no stairs in the inventory, only room with existing stairs... ๐
you can look here
Patch date confirmed
oh these are TALL
8 week cadence is back
that might be a bug or them trying to reduce clipping
question abt housing
so we arnt forced into a neighborhood full of randoms right, like we can be just friends or guild?
i dont rlly wanna live by a bunch of random ppl
you can do charter (private but not guild) or guild
not really lol
Keep getting tons of access violations atm, anyone else?
Guys, what are the chances that the Winds buff its going to stack with the 400% xp buff from Lemix lmao
It would be pretty funny but do you really need more than 400/650? lol
If you experience lag or encounter difficulties logging into the beta, please delete the cache folder.
lol, would be 1 quest per level xD
oh no the burning of Teldrassil was terrible! anyways omw to join the Horde ๐ฅณ
Iโm at 311% and itโs already fast lol I can barely finish the class order hall before hitting 80
i want more!
Maybe some want to join to horde to help change their ways.
my bad for caring about the gaymes lore
big mistake
u enjoy the game alot more if u ignore lore
bcuz none of it makes sense anyways
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mmoification of warcraft was a mistake imo yes
storywise
i think the RTS did the story part better
Or they realize that one leader isnโt the sum of all what the horde is
I think there is nuance to it
But also like story vs enraging a huge part of player base to only have one faction with Haranir
Idk if they would want that fight
Haha I mean ever since Sylvanasโ arc ended itโs been pretty chill.
True
they could use a lot of love in the customization department
I agree with that
Eh, if we never got new races story telling would be more and more messy
i mean... the npcs would still be there
i just dont think all new races they add have to be necessarilly playable
They arenโt
stop being disingenuos bruh
No u
haranir: Sylvanas? you're the person who called for teldrassil to be set on fire?
Sylvanas: I'm sorry ๐
obviously i am not talking about every single race that have been added to wowcraft
hopefully she is gonna be normal now
๐
blizzy and ruining women
name more iconic duo
We get a single player race every expansion or two, why is that such a terrible thing?
Tbh we probably arenโt getting one in TLT
Ah, I see this was just a ploy to pivot to Gnomes
I don't think new races is bad (though imo we don't really need more but that's never gonna fly) but I think the recent justifications have been medicore
man if they dont give us a whole classic world revamp (Kalimdor and EK) after TLT
im out
im tired of "new expansion new island"
i mean... i would not bet on it t
unfortunately
have they even updated eastern plaguelands for midnight
or is it still a scourgeland even though it should not have been
Sorta I think...I know there's a questline but it's not revamped
Anyway yeah like Earthen for instance. "We wanna explore the world! :D" "ok. go back in time and help participate in a genocide" "
"
i dont think that "chromie time" is cannon
prolly not, but time travel and alternative universes are though
(^:
o7 Yrel... 4ever in my heart
some gameplay mechanics aren't cannon
like anduin wearing plate
makes no sense
if he's a priest
its a transmog bruh
bro bought the class change for TWW anyways
W Warrior enjoyer
Yeah priest to paladin class changes are basically canon
Look at that night elf in Legion
bro got bored of Warrior
Clearly that was before his class change
Is this cutscene in the net anywhere? The lag is unbearable so i cant really check from the NPC itself (most likely isnt actually in this build)
i dont know if you guys are baiting me or just being dense lmao
Arator btw
@lavish raptor can you maybe add me on discord? 
purrhapss
If this is on the beta the cutscene is probably not there
Yeah beta
It is not, no
this will likely be a 2.5d animated short put out before the xpac launch
I wonder who taught the Haranir darnassian and druidism ๐ค
@Cenarius address me
WELLLLLL
In my opinion they really have a natural connection to the emerald dream, they didnโt learn druidism, they are basically born into it
Like
They live in harandar
Harandar is (if iโm correct) right under the very first world tree (the one planted by elune and uprooted by amanโthul)
PLUS โthe cradleโ is where a goddess named Alnโhara dwelled and from what i understood it originated the rift of Aln when the goddes was kidnapped
So yeah
I think the druidism is innate for the haranir
The part "to the point of implying it was a major factor in them joining the factions", for me, well, implies the point of view that the burning also led to some good (haranir less isolated and joining factions)
It may had a "cosmic" (or whatever) purpose
Anyway gonn racecange my druid to haranir asap they come out LOL
I mean we know that dwarves and earthen call stuff similar names despite not having any cultural crossover/contact
so might just be that influence on their language
and how draconic is apparently the "life" language or something?
WTB touring standalone local server where i can just take screenshots in peace ๐ฅฒ
Literally stuck in taking screenshots on the first area still cause the servers go so slowly
its not exactly the servers
its just that intro area
I heard its same with other zones too, Zul Aman etc
Atleast when reading the general chat
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/quest=86805/the-hour-of-need
Im just about to get on this part personally with NPCs etc
Rescue $11oa citizens then head to the Silver Landing. A level 80 Isle of Quel'Danas Quest. Rewards . Added in World of Warcraft: Midnight. Always up to date.
had no problems in eversong until i got to the story delve
its broken
no npcs
wont let me use abilities
cant log out
its the fucking alpha portal bug but worse
because you need to do this and relogging doesnt seem to solve it
oof
alpha worked better
they need to do something idk what
but hopefully they do a restart and patch today
If screenshotting is this unbearable i dont want to know how unbearable its with the people that try to actually progress 
Are toys disabled in the next areas too btw? The Isle of Quel Danas doesnt let me use any atleast
Keep getting Access Violation errors, oh well, guess I'll go on live and try and kill ?? Veza
is the new silvermoon place still laggy?
what company makes this game and do they have money?
no
its a beta dude
itll be fixed soon and this is literally why beta exists - so it isnt like this when it goes live
how would they have tested this? this didnt happen in alpha so they clearly needed numbers for this issue to happen
embarrassing
how?
its literally a beta
its not a game release
its not early access
like - nothing you do in beta matters
it doesnt carry over
you dont get a reward
its for testing and finding problems like this
because again - this didnt happen during alpha
I can't believe there's bugs in the in-development game build
next you're gonna tell me that if I eat rice while it's still cooking it won't taste good
It doesnt?! What the frick 
i truly dont understand people like that though - like if the game was already ready, why wouldnt they release it now?
do people think devs just hold on to games to release when they feel like it?
Yeah im done for tonight
. Too much lag to do the https://www.wowhead.com/beta/quest=86780/where-heroes-hold
rn. I'll take another spin tomorrow
Because greedy corporate suits decided to make beta a paid early access
I mean open beta is so common these days
So many companies drop games as open/closed beta and never release the real thing
as someone mentioned before it's so that people actually test things, cause if you pay for it you are more inclined to actually want to do it
I honestly would not be shocked if theyโre doubling the beta rush as a pseudo launch test for their servers
is that not something betas are for?
It absolutely is
like to stress the servers to make sure it can handle the load
Yeah. Obviously theyโll fix whateverโs wrong with it between now and launch
But I think that if this is the intent it would be a pretty smart move to make the most of a paid open beta
Itโs beta. We are paying to be their guinea pigs. I got no problem with that as long as the actual expansion launch is fine
its going to be even worst on release r u kidding me
Did you play war within on launch?
Best launch experience I think theyโve ever had
i just, don't understand why you said what you said? like that's literally the point of a beta to test to make sure the servers can handle the load AND to make sure the game is running properly. the whole making it so you have to "buy in" is just to make sure that people who get in are more inclined to actually patriciate in the beta since they "paid" for it
Iโm not complaining
Iโm saying what theyโre doing is smart
I donโt give a shit if itโs not working itโs a beta I donโt expect it to
i never said you were complaining?
Then I donโt understand where we disagree lol
they are doing basically the standard for paid betas
Yeah, and thatโs fine. Thatโs my point lol
hows the Testing going everyone?
ne one fishing?
Just wanted to share the info, to whom it may concern...
Legion Remix Decor WILL be available after Remix ends.
(At least for now) it is unrestricted and can be bought normally.
Will be sold by vendor Val'zuun in The Underbelly (Legion Dalaran).
Each piece will require 50x Velied Argunite (Argus Currency) and different amount of Order Resources (Ranging from 1500 to 18000).
thats a lot
so better buy it with bronze!
I'll take 20 of each
For real though. I've got over 500k since I've already got raid mounts that i got during the bounty
yeah, i've been racking up extra bronze since leveling one of each class
I wonder if we will get updated EK map?
yeah
100%
also should get an updated world map and updated flight map
Yeah, they called it "Eastern Kingdoms Midnight."
all 3 of those things have weird bugs and the midnight content title is definitely temp
i would expect it in the next few weeks
Look at the map's name.
yeah - temporary for sure
they have to provide a way to switch between the two tho
They already have, no? Different portal for the TBC one.
no i mean the maps
like if you want to view the old one once you are 81, you cant view it without going to the zone
Nah, that doesn't make sense. It'll likely just be the modern Eversong, and it'll give you the old map if you're in the TBC version.
This would be the logical way to do it, if they don't give you a map button to switch between the two.
I will say that I don't know what to think about Eversong Woods being one zone, merged with Ghostlands. Feels a bit... much? I get it, Skyriding, and modern mechanics. Eversong felt big specifically 'cause it was a no-flight zone. I fear it feeling smaller with flying.
Brain farted.
Said Duskwood instead of Ghostlands. My apologies.
haha youre good
yeah i havent delved into beta much but I want to see how it feels
I'm just hoping they haven't wrecked my Windwalker.
I get why they would replace Storm, Earth, and Fire. Doesn't mean I really like it. Weapons of Order was kind of a mid covenant ability. Now it's in the core spec as Zenith.
I miss Serenity.
they've changed my shadow priest quite a bit
new delve item
this achievement is new lol
this isnt the achievement for unlocking the race - just deco
thats alotta prey targets
also new and interesting
woah, its a bigger system than I imagined
this is probably the one for the race unlock unless theres a different one
nope its this
@uncut vault you definitely dont have to do the side quests like for the earthen
unrelated - the first story delve is much better but is still buggy, missing voice and sound stuff, and is all over the place balance-wise
theyve made an interesting change to coffer keys and shards
you get shards from all over the place (i got 25 from a leveling rare) and then they turn into a key when you enter a delve
and they are currency so they dont take an item slot
idk if this is good or bad
holy shit - this is metal af
is there a talent to make Shift work in a similar way to Fel Rush? or do i have to select a target location every time
probably have to select a location, but you could set up a macro to have it cast on click so it sends you to where you click by casting it or something?
its not meant to be used like felrush
devourer is a partial caster
I'd prefer a blink still
vista points are back!
uh oh
they play the dragonflight music
lol
uh oh
time to see the new eversong ending for myself
solid
they changed this slightly too
used to just be him telling liadrin to secure the pass and then the return to silvermoon line
So looking online, for mages, frost is the best leveling in Midnight? I'm arcane on live, but this new arcane feels so weird and weak
how do you get back to the beta intro area if you left it?
Id assume the same way you got inside atleast till you do the starter quests to unlock the portals in the portalrooms
Any better with the servers today btw?
Quick glance and it seems to work like wonders rn
Message: attempt to perform string conversion on a secret value Im assuming this might be one of those new errors in relation to being compliant with the new system regarding addons?
Seems like im getting same sort of errors through IDTip with all of the itemsMessage: ...e/AddOns/Blizzard_MoneyFrame/Mainline/MoneyFrame.lua:303: attempt to perform arithmetic on a secret value
Mainly asking as the IDtip i use for screenshotting seems to throw up that error while i hover over some of the spells during combat
Is the intro for the Midnight available in the PTR currently btw? Just second checking so i know if i need to pop there too.
Unless the Isle quest is the actual intro and im just stoopid 
https://wowhead.com/quest=86850
Anyone else had issues with this quest? ive reported it already but tried to /reload , relogging and retaking the quest so far
Meet Liadrin at the entrance to the Sunwell. A level 80 Isle of Quel'Danas Quest. Rewards . Added in World of Warcraft: Midnight. Always up to date.
OMFG! New Silvermoon is amazing!
had to reinstall entire beta to fix it. funny
That is the intro
Could try disabling the addon and see if it goes away, but spell tooltips are not available in combat if they are enemy spells for addons to read
Any patches to Midnight beta?
Server stability stuff
Blizzard generally only does weekly builds if you mean iteration and tuning
so a lot of the bug fixes are server side and not not based on builds
Yeah that error is 100% from the IDtip. annoying it only happens during the combat. Outside of it it works just fine
And the interesting fact is that it doesnt even do that with all of the spells during combat imo. just some
Would only be NPC spells
Those have secret values
Hmm it gives the error with https://wowhead.com/spell=1856
As well
i never really bothered trying to take screenshot of NPC spells unless they were explitly cast / debuffed into me
I think the second error i got was from bonus quests. first from spells or gear. doesnt seem to give any rn tho so might been just one of those "just beta things"
as Horde player housing worked fine but now as alliance char I cant get into that housing quest
the quest is once per account
once you have a house, you go on an opposite faction character, go to the portal room and take the portal to the housing area
then you just buy a house
yeah figured it, just wasnt sure where the portal was as Alliance
always portal room
yep they had changed some portal locations
i think as with horde, the house portal should be the first thing you see when walking in, instead its off to the left
but the alliance room doesnt have any portals when you first walk in
i know, but it would be nice to place it right in front
Mmm I finished all the quest of Eversong and the last part is full of " ?? " elite ( the deathholme one ) and I've no indication to go to other area nor how to do that ( outside zul aman ) Did I miss something*?
where people get these Area 52 stuff?
exactly why I got a bit confused as I thought it would be in the center as well in Stormwind
the garden thing in the center could be replaced perhaps where Alliance players spawn
i keep getting this screen when trying to do beta, im on the beta branch, anyone have any ideas?
Oh alright, thank you
make sure to keep an eye on the chat while in beta, they announce them 15min prior
" world server is down " xD not quite back
yeah got the message 15 min before
literally just got into wow housing and looking for inspirations
This is from the K'aresh vendor, you need renown 15 to unlock em
thanks
wowkea is a great server for it
haha really
any good talents and layouts recommended for Devour?
yeah pretty much every paladin npc is in that scenario
wowhead might have something
well if you look at the most recent article, they're actually hiring for that haha
I didn't see any talent builds on Wowhead.
ah lol
from the testing Ive done though, left side of the tree is the melee/Fel-Scarred build
right side is for the ranged/Annihilator build
build for melee is a lot clearer, you focus on voidblade and Hungering Slash
seems Annihilator is the one to go for according to the site
guess I'll copy the single target annihilator build and hope thats good
theres no real go-to atm, tuning has only just begun with beta
but yeah blizz said their intent is for Annihilator to be the ST/Raid build, and Fel-Scarred to be the AoE/M+ build
gotcha
this is what I have now
now just gotta figure out the right placement of my rotation
any recommendations on good rotations, even though only a few days into the beta?
just play around - nothing bad will happen if you experiment
you can turn on the assisted highlight option to get an idea for the basic rotation
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they got rid of the big pretty water feature in the old part of SM???
did they? I hate when hero trees are content locked, what if I like my purple meteors in m+ ๐
I'm sure there will be builds that work for the other way around
in all honestly it's probably a better design philosophy than hero talents atm just being "well one is better for everything, sorry" for 6-12 month intervals lol
I just hope the Outlaw Rogue pruning makes everything feel smoother to play. I hate how RNG it is currently.
If you played Fatebound last season, then you got three tiers of RNG.
Roll the Bones, your Fatebound coins, and the Winning Streak tier set effect. That's way too much for one spec.
druid felt weird in testing
not sure how i feel though its harder to judge with the lag spikes that are happening
it felt slower
the limit is kinda sad
