beta-ptr-spoilers

[deep pawn]

I miss death's due, soul shape was great

[tepid fiber]

I was a little disappointed that the Bag of Munitions anima power got nerfed to shit as the leggo version. God, it was SO GOOD in Torghast

[subtle oar]

@uncut vault Thank you for video of the Loyalist ending to the Forsaken heritage

[uncut vault]

Glad I could help!

glad they added a non-Forsaken version too

since not all loyalist players directly play forsaken

[deep pawn]

Oh they did? Neat

[uncut vault]

In Orgrimmar at the graveyard, yeah

Doesnt have the bits about the Forsaken, just the Horde

[rain cave]

I just want legion mm hunter back

It was so much fun and the new talents would spice it a lot

Perhaps they could bring back marked shot as a replacement for something like rapid fire in an alternative talent/ playstyle

And bring back sidewinder while they're at it

[tepid fiber]

I double-dog dare you to mention replacing rapidfire in the hunter discord

[vernal juniper]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1699677913015083434

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

Patch 10.2 PTR launching TODAY?

chuckles I’m in danger

Twitter · Sep 7, 2023, 6:56 AM

[crystal pond]

Not gonna be surprised if it will happen after announcement

[deep pawn]

I need to sleep instead of doing ff14 stuff lol

but all signs were pointing to imminent PTR

[harsh mason]

Why so much hysteria?

Oh, yes, I forgot. DF is smaller than draenor

[warm topaz]

||https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2640523-Img_20230906_175026295_hdr||

hmm there is a lot of conversation around that

[plain violet]

Looks like AI...

[crystal pond]

Yeah

Like
I mean we already saw orcs in cinematics and those ones looks trash

[warm topaz]

but it doesn't have to be an orc

[crystal pond]

Then what this is?

[warm topaz]

idk, undead orc? void creature?

maybe is just AI or fake but who knows

for me, it's always fun to theorize a little about the leaks, no matter if they are fake or not

[autumn dagger]

Yeah remember the super hi fi necropolis floating over northrend cinematic leak back in SL? Same thing

[crystal pond]

I hope that thrall will not be mary sue in new expansion

[vernal juniper]

https://i.vgy.me/qO7nFd.png

servers up/down 10.2

[plain violet]

Oh yeaaaah.

[rain cave]

doesn't look like AI to me

AI almost never would have that level of cohesive detail

at least from what I've seen

the big question is why would there even be a cinematic

we haven't had CGI cinematics mid xpac since bfa

so suddenly dropping one is weird.

it could be ai actully

:/

I'm seeing a primalist orc with fyrakk in the backgroun

[crystal pond]

???
Go to the internet and check about the ai lol

It can generate fake people as if they was real

[rain cave]

I literally run AI image generation locally on my machine since I test it out

if it's AI it's good AI, since everything is quite cohesive even the lighting.

It could have been trained on WoW cinematic stills though

which would be a smart move tbf

[plain violet]

It's not that cohesive, there is a lot of distorsion and bloom to make sure we can't see the details.

And that is an effective way to make sure AI pass as legit!

[silent urchin]

orc has a few too many weird facial ridges to really feel like a wow orc, and I'm not sure what's going on with the shredder guy in the background that's entirely blurred out, but I feel like it's just taken from something else and had a lot of blur added

Could be AI

[rain cave]

I mean to me the orcs ridges could just be primalist stuff

and the guy in the background looks like fyrakk

but realistic

[silent urchin]

I'm assuming this is meant to be an expansion leak rather than a patch one

[rain cave]

I'm in the opposite camp

since I do not see a way that makes sense as an expansion leak

[dense plover]

this looks SUPER fake

firstly it doesnt match existing wow orc aesthetic - looks like a warhammer ork

secondly, its WAY too soon for this to be ready

CGI gets finished as late as it can, so they can continue to add detail

i dont think CGI has ever leaked more than 1-2 weeks before

like - the bolvar leak was 2 weeks before wasnt it?

we are still 2 MONTHS out from blizzcon

WAY too far away

[rain cave]

if it is real I think people are misreading

I didn't see it as trying to be an expansion cinematic leak

I see it as a primalist orc and fyrakk

[dense plover]

only way this is real is if its for warcraft rumble

no way theyre gonna make a CGI fyrakk for one patch

[rain cave]

they did it raszageth

and winter queen

and denathrius

[dense plover]

no they didnt

[rain cave]

and the jailer

well tbf jailer was multi patch

but

[dense plover]

where is cgi raszageth?

[rain cave]

you get my idea

[dense plover]

i dont remember cgi raszageth

[rain cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3MGAlcfyo&pp=ygUeZHJhZ29uZmxpZ2h0IGxhdW5jaCBjaW5lbWF0aWMg

1 minute in

[dense plover]

eh

thats the dragon

[rain cave]

still the same character, it's harder to make if anything lmao

[dense plover]

the dragon model for raszageth is obscured by clouds

[rain cave]

they still need to model all of it 💀

[dense plover]

but again, the orc in that picture doesnt look like a wow orc

[rain cave]

primalist

[rain cave]

if it's one of fyrakks closest

like raszageth has the grimtotem tauren dude

[dense plover]

still wouldnt look like not an orc

this looks totally different than that image

its fake, or its not wow

[rain cave]

I think it lines up

as in

it could be a warcraft orc

[dense plover]

it doesnt have a nose my guy

its ears are enormous

it doesnt look like a wow orc

[rain cave]

we can't see the ears

and it has a flat nose

[upper pasture]

looks like some raid shadows legends shit tbh

[rain cave]

it's not JUST an orc in my eyes

[dense plover]

wtf are you talking about? top left my guy

HUGE ear

way too big

[rain cave]

to me it reads as like a primalist party elemental orc

that doesn't look like an ear to me

[upper pasture]

looks sorta like bat ears

[rain cave]

just looks like spines

[dense plover]

dude, theyre claiming its an 11.0 cinematic

primalists arent part of that for sure

[rain cave]

if that's the case then yeah

fake

[dense plover]

fyrakk is dead next patch, guaranteed

iridikron is 100% our next main villain in 11.0

this doesnt look tied to that

it looks like an undead orc

except that makes no sense

[rain cave]

thoughts on vyranoth swapping teams faster than sonic

[dense plover]

also the huge CONFIDENTIAL is way too clear for how blurry the rest of the image is

its fake

[rain cave]

i mean one angle we could reframe it from

[warm topaz]

expect to see more than 10.2 today

[rain cave]

is if it's like

one of the plant people infested orcs

but

no idea why that would be in an expansion cinematic

since I doubt we're going to get a whole expansion thing based around the few plant people who got through from draenor

[dense plover]

someone in the thread said it could be D4 stuff

which is honestly more likely

it absolutely looks more like a D4 demon than an orc

[tepid fiber]

Totally

If that

Still really out of place/time like you mentioned earlier though, Peach

[dense plover]

otherwise, its probably not wow related - looks like a warhammer ork - they have huge ears and a flat nose

[upper pasture]

IF its D4 the other thing in the frame doesnt seems to be correct either idk prolly someone trying to get their minute of fame

[tepid fiber]

Even warhammer orks have much longer and distended faces. It's too mid to look like either

[sleek solar]

Thats 99% not a wow orc

[dense plover]

exactly

i suspect the art is fake/ai

then they blurred the image

and overlayed text oddly

hence the text being WAY too clear compared to the image

[tepid fiber]

I'm gonna agree with Peach on this one

[rain cave]

I think it's fake but I do think people are just not understanding that I don't think it's meant to just be an orc

[dense plover]

the text should be as blurry as the image

[rain cave]

like to me it looks like a magically infused orc

and we know if you infuse yourself with anything you start looking different

[upper pasture]

but if its fake why does anything else about it matter?

[dense plover]

theres no world in wow where an orc has enormous ears and no nose

[rain cave]

I do not see the ears

I just see he has like

[dense plover]

also this

[rain cave]

spines growing out of his face

[dense plover]

this is more important

[rain cave]

for posterity

if we can make sure we know it's fake with concrete reasons it's better to help us wade through it all

[tepid fiber]

What

[dense plover]

i circled it for you

enormous ear

[rain cave]

that doesn't look like an ear

to me

[dense plover]

WHAT ELSE WOULD IT BE

[rain cave]

I just see he has like a long thin set of growths

out of the side of his head

[dense plover]

does it not have ears then?

[rain cave]

like winter queen

[dense plover]

b/c wow orcs have ears

[rain cave]

idk

[tepid fiber]

That's an ear, buddy

[dense plover]

why does it have a huge hole in it dude?

[rain cave]

fyrakk doesnt have ears

what hole

[tepid fiber]

...

[dense plover]

IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE FYRAKK

wtf?

dude

I CIRCLED IT

are you actually blind?

[tepid fiber]

This is why talking to this guy is so ungodly frustrating

[rain cave]

blue out line

that's what I see

as his head shape

the background guy looks like fyrakk tho

is what I meant earlier

[dense plover]

no it doesnt

[tepid fiber]

Just says the most off-the-wall thing like removing leveling/making it optional

[dense plover]

it looks like someone in a suit of armor

[sleek solar]

Omg xD

[rain cave]

it's not off the wall

had this discussion with my friends they agree

ik we all have different viewpoints

that's why I wanted to discuss it

with y'all

[tepid fiber]

We've established before that your friends are less than reliable

[dense plover]

someone in the thread made a better point about why its fake

[rain cave]

no more reliable than yours that's the thing

[dense plover]

this is what a blizzard cinematic leak looks like

it has the red X

and is marked 'property of blizzard'

[rain cave]

I'm not pointing to you and saying "your opinion is irrelevant compared to mine" so don't do it to me that's rude darling

I just want some conversation about ways the game can evolve

if you disagree that's fine!

lets discuss it

if you wish

[tepid fiber]

Did you just call me "darling"

[rain cave]

I'm bri'ish

[dense plover]

fyi, the bolvar leak was just over a week before blizzcon

[rain cave]

and trying to defuse the tension since I don't want to argue or make enemies

[dense plover]

and wasnt a cinematic image

it was a gear store leak

i think thats more important to talk about

[rain cave]

but yeah the cinematic thing looks fake, to me it just looks like a fiery orc with weird protrusions from his head like he's partially morphed into something. Whilst fyrakk sands in the background looking over a cliff.

[upper pasture]

the only thing youre trying to do is ignore the fact that thats an ear.

[dense plover]

its too early, its too incorrect/out of style for blizzard, and it doesnt make sense

[rain cave]

but if we're not expecting a patch cinematic, and it's not claiming to be

it's whack

[dense plover]

its claimed as 11.0

[rain cave]

mate I just

don't see the ear

[dense plover]

which is definitely BS

[rain cave]

it's not clearly defined

because it's a shit blurry image lmao

most likely fake

[tepid fiber]

An irrelevant image that doesn't match anything prior to justify it being real/official via style or form

[rain cave]

👌

[austere gazelle]

It's look like a drakonid crossed with an orc. If it's legit ( BIG IF ) it may be the " children of the first flesh " Xal was supposed to gather )

[upper pasture]

honestly you know what this does look like some liftking content ngl

which is all AI generated content

[austere gazelle]

yeah now with AI it's kind of a mess to spot fake from no fake from legit stuff

[rain cave]

I mean even without AI

you can make convincing fake leaks

all AI's done is allow them to put some sparkly visuals on it

[upper pasture]

i mean Peach pointed out it doesnt even have the correct watermarks to be a blizzard leak

[vernal juniper]

well

do you remember the 10.0 leaked cinematic? it has no X

[rain cave]

since a lot of AI suffers from not having anything deeper to it

like it doesn't have a reference sheet to make sure characters look cohesive, and such

it's why the side of the orcs head looks weird

and not warcraft cinematic like

[vernal juniper]

https://i.ibb.co/XzcPjPz/alexa.jpg

this was 10.0 leak

[dense plover]

when did that leak?

[upper pasture]

didnt that like the night before?

[dense plover]

i dont remember that

[rain cave]

still remember when dracthyr screenshots came out and everyone was like "nah that's just goofy looking fan concepting disguised as a leak look at the animations and feet"

[rain cave]

think so

1-2 nights before

alongside the logo leak I think

[dense plover]

yeah in that case, definitely TOO EARLY

as ive been saying

[vernal juniper]

18/04/2022

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hAg2DY2G_HEtJ-OY-zLlh8KWYUUEyrgAQvHMGCJb-g/edit#gid=1758213767

ALSO

the leaker of the original post

went to sleep for over 1 year on mmo

his account woked up today, strange coincidence

[dense plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper pasture]

not really

[dense plover]

i dont think that image is real

we will see

[upper pasture]

some people thrive on this

[vernal juniper]

also also

Just noticed

he changed his profile info with an image

is it wow?

[rain cave]

for all we know the poster is watching us right now

laughing

[vernal juniper]

https://i.imgur.com/zV7wqyX.jpeg

not sure if it wow

[rain cave]

that's AI

[vernal juniper]

ok

[dense plover]

thats 1000% ai

[dense plover]

fyi thats 1 day before the cinematic was shown off

[vernal juniper]

yea

[dense plover]

this is 2 months before blizzcon

no way this is real

bolvar leak was less than 2 weeks before and was a merch leak

[vernal juniper]

we will see, the timing of the leak and the woking up of the leaker who leaked everything for df is sus

[dense plover]

its too early

https://youtu.be/cFWNreW2uyI?si=zhEnTKReyq8wARXe

[vernal juniper]

well keep one eye on Scarlace if he will post

he also leaked illidan guldan, demon hunter back in legion

[dense plover]

but how far in advance did he leak those?

probably not 2 months

[vernal juniper]

Can't remember, looooooong time ago

[dense plover]

as i said, probably not 2 months before

[rain cave]

where can we watch the patch reveal btw

there isn't a wowcast premiere on youtube I can see

[silent urchin]

announcement said youtube

should be in about 40min

presumably it will appear by then

[pulsar minnow]

they're also gonna publish a new roadmap I'd hope

[thin warren]

Yeah, that would be nice

but maybe closer to the actual release of 10.2

[pulsar minnow]

Yeah... I just really wanna see if we're gonna get 10.3 or not so it can put an end to the arguing

[thin warren]

haha ^^

time will tell, or will it?

[pulsar minnow]

Yep

They still gotta get the Aspects their powers back, it's a major plot point that's kinda been pushed to the side for a while. We KNOW it will happen, it's a matter of when and how

[thin warren]

What was the use of the aspect thingies then again?

you know, each one had a broken flight tower you had to power up again

[pulsar minnow]

Yeah, that was in 10.0. Alexstrasza hoped that would restore their powers, but it didn't.

[thin warren]

ah, right

[upper pasture]

for them to remember their flights purpose but those didnt give them their powers

[pulsar minnow]

That said it renewed the dragons' "oath" and was more symbolic than anything

[thin warren]

oathstones, that was it! 😄

or isnt it called like that lol

[upper pasture]

it is indeed oathstone

[pulsar minnow]

Supposedly Tyr has the ability to restore all their powers, but then again... Kalec never got his powers from Tyr and instead from Elune

So it's all over the place

[thin warren]

Did he?

i tought the titans made them aspects

to protect Azeroth

[upper pasture]

titans did do that but Kalec wasnt the OG blue aspect that was Malygos (sp?)

[pulsar minnow]

yeah

He got his powers from a cosmic event called the "Embrace" which involved both the moons of Azeroth eclipsing each other

[thin warren]

ooh, cool ^^

but like with the black dragonflight, they just made someone aspect

no big magic thingies

[upper pasture]

yes but only in title no powers

[thin warren]

ah, like that

you lore-experts you 😛

[pulsar minnow]

my feeling is that maybe through the birth of the new world tree the dragons will get their powers back via elune

she'll do some cosmic stuff again. I mean we saw her do it in Darkshore too

[rain cave]

what's the bingo card looking like?

druid/paladin for all races?

[thin warren]

it's still unclear what Elune actually is, right?

[rain cave]

ragnaros cult? ragnaros the dragonlord bossfight before fyrakk?

[thin warren]

above titans? or some titan?

[pulsar minnow]

New spec: Calculation Evoker (So you can figure out how much damage your augs are actually doing)

[rain cave]

procrastination evoker

[tepid fiber]

Yes. Ish. But also on-par with the Winter Queen and a member of the Pantheon of Life

[rain cave]

imagine if they announce the patch and they're like "so paladin get an elune legendary! and are now playable for all races!"

druids sitting there like :|

[upper pasture]

wouldnt that better as a new mage spec? mathematician? xD

[pulsar minnow]

Goes with another new spec called "Speculation Evoker" whose Empowered Abilities bring up the World of Warcraft and MMO Champion forums respectively

[tepid fiber]

Although she's not a member of the Titan Pantheon, she may be some form of Titan still

[thin warren]

ah, yes, i remember slightly some lorethingie sin Shadowlands about the Winter Queen

[tepid fiber]

They're sisters

[pulsar minnow]

Imagine the legendary is like an off-hand

[rain cave]

what do we reckon it will be actually

whole class legendary or specific class

since the evoker legendary was kept secret

[upper pasture]

ora trinket? have we had one of those yet?

[tepid fiber]

Another cloak

[pulsar minnow]

it'll be like the Skull of Man'ari but instead its Malfurion's head and he's screaming at you "TYRANDE MY LOVE"

[thin warren]

but in the last patch, we saw that the ancients were kinda made, or something, no? 🤔

[rain cave]

wrathion rubbing his hands together "Just my specialty.."

[thin warren]

with the vessels that we saw in the raid

we need a lore-book or something

[rain cave]

As I've discussed before, my bet is on Elune being the representation of death in the life domain

[tepid fiber]

Everything is made

[rain cave]

like how winter queen is the representation of life in the death domain

to me that explains how elune is always associated with life, yet none of her DIRECT influence is ever in line with green magic and plants

any wowcast premieres up?

[austere gazelle]

The prez for 10.2 is today right ?

[thin warren]

i did like the tought of the bit of lore we got at the complete end that this was only 1 machine for the what was it life?-power and that for each power, similar machines exist

[austere gazelle]

Anyone got a link ?

[rain cave]

in 4 minutes

no link yet as far as I cantell

[deep pawn]

come on two new dungeons

[austere gazelle]

I cant find it on youtube warcraft channel

[rain cave]

maybe 1

I don't think we'll see 2

[austere gazelle]

Usually they do a waiting room

[rain cave]

maybe they'll announce another megadugeon if they go "BEHOLD CONTENT MAP" and there's a 10.4 on there lmao

which I doubt

[deep pawn]

I just don't want 6 legacy dungeons haha

or 2 season 1 DF ones

[upper pasture]

ive got bad news for you

[deep pawn]

I'm trying to be optimistic cause people get on me about being a doomer lately

[warm topaz]

enjoy the announcement guys

❤️

[thin warren]

Guardians of the dream!

😴

[upper pasture]

lol listen i hope we get a two new dungeons too but the chances are slim but 6 legacy dungeons wont feel bad if they are fun

[austere gazelle]

Gimme a link lol

Cant find a stream

[thin warren]

you get the link if you complete the preservationists

huehue

[austere gazelle]

Rofl

[dense plover]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23999605/in-development-guardians-of-the-dream

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/vf/VFAA1ZTJTKVG1693945340765.png

[thin warren]

yay

[ivory meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OUxTfaWJX8

[thin warren]

ooooh

[deep pawn]

oof, RIP disc

[dense plover]

kinda leaves space for 10.3, since this is the fyrakk patch, we still need a vyranoth patch to wrap up HER story

actual emerald dream zone

[upper pasture]

hey look they are using that space

[dense plover]

yep

it is to the west of the plains

[thin warren]

cool! as expected

[dense plover]

sizable too

very valsharah

[thin warren]

but the tree is there then?

[dense plover]

but also fire druids

[dense plover]

based on the map, i dont think so

[thin warren]

hmhm

[dense plover]

i think the tree is still in the dream

this 100% looks like a chunk of the dream was pulled into our world

[thin warren]

it is behind the portal

physically

[silent urchin]

https://blizzard.gamespress.com/en-GB/World-of-Warcraft-Dragonflight---Guardians-of-the-Dream-Reveal-33119

there are A LOT of screenshots there

[dense plover]

new outdoor gear!

[thin warren]

nice, can't wait ^^

[dense plover]

no more zaralek recolors!

wow

[signal bone]

that new gear looks awesome

[deep pawn]

Screw Atal'dazar

[signal bone]

DH changes hype

plz get rid of momentum

[deep pawn]

They better nerf the HELL out of that place

[pulsar minnow]

HOLY SHIT

[dense plover]

white scales

[deep pawn]

Nooo, we gotta fight Smolderon?

[deep pawn]

He has to be mind controlled

9 boss raid

If this is the last raid it's the smallest number of raid encounters for a single expansion EVER

[upper pasture]

is that a tattoo on her arm or notes? lol

[dense plover]

hes back

[deep pawn]

dragonriding in a fight

[dense plover]

skunk!

[tepid fiber]

Perfect

Let the pugs suffer

[upper pasture]

THOSE ARE NICE SETS

[mossy meteor]

?

[dense plover]

took so long for moonkin customization

but at least they kept their word

[mossy meteor]

dragonriding takes like no skill

[silent urchin]

those are the outdoor sets

[pulsar minnow]

New legendary is a twohanded axe

[deep pawn]

The DH tier set looks amazing

[upper pasture]

stop lol

[dense plover]

tree is definitely in the zone

[silent urchin]

or wait, did they show class ones in the video?

[upper pasture]

2hd axe D:

[deep pawn]

yeah, they did

[rain cave]

LOL druids actually got cucked on the legendary

[upper pasture]

poor druids

[silent urchin]

Ah

[rain cave]

the legendary looks sick though tbf

[silent urchin]

why did they not puit them in the press kit if they were in the video

[rain cave]

sulfuraxe

[deep pawn]

I mean everyone kinda did, why the hell is it another 2h str weapon

[dense plover]

9 boss raid

[deep pawn]

You know the weapon type that's had 2 already?

[rain cave]

hey I'm not complaining yet it's one of like 4 axes that look good

[tepid fiber]

Neither does wearing a cloak during the N'Zoth fight but that still seemed to be too difficult for some people

[deep pawn]

3 more empty public events, wooooooo

[rain cave]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[dense plover]

great set of dungeons

[signal bone]

another legendary for melee

lmao

[rain cave]

everbloom lmao

[signal bone]

and it's an axe

[upper pasture]

oh look 6 legacy lol

[deep pawn]

I hate it so much. Everbloom and Atal'dazar suck to me

[dense plover]

everbloom is easy tho

[deep pawn]

like Atal'dazar is my least favorite dungeon of all time

[upper pasture]

EB is easy but man i hate it lol

[dense plover]

XD

[rain cave]

runebears
elden ring PTSD

[deep pawn]

The mage boss is so so bloody annoying

[rain cave]

Fire will burn them away!

[mossy meteor]

throne of the tides

LMAO

terrible

[dense plover]

firelands!

[deep pawn]

yeah, Smolderon is a boss

[dense plover]

isnt that dungeon super short?

[pulsar minnow]

WAYCREST MANOR HELL YEAH

[mossy meteor]

yeah it's a firelands portal to ED

[rain cave]

we need to get our water to put out these fires somehow man

[dense plover]

this is the one im excited about the most

it was SO good

[mossy meteor]

waycrest manor bangs

[deep pawn]

Oh oh, Throne of the Tides is gonna make you do the mind control boss too eh?

[rain cave]

Was smolderon good or neutral last time we see him

[upper pasture]

yeah but that one room with all that CC

[deep pawn]

And who's ready for targetting issues on the last boss

[rain cave]

bro's falling into the evil firelord trope pretty quick

[mossy meteor]

big

[dense plover]

im sure it will see changes

[dense plover]

that makes sense

he gonna die

[deep pawn]

Fae Dragon customization!

[dense plover]

sick

[upper pasture]

yeah!

[dense plover]

oh its a new mount!

awesome

[mossy meteor]

new races

and a new ability

that instantly gives you vigor

[pulsar minnow]

omg the new shaman tier set

[upper pasture]

sounds OP lol

[pulsar minnow]

has ghost wolves coming out of your shoulders

[rain cave]

cocaine?

[dense plover]

100% these are class sets

[rain cave]

Warlock, hunter, monk

[dense plover]

my guess is the middle is hunter, right is warrior and left is warlock

[deep pawn]

I'm really not excited for that dungeon pool, ugh, they like picked all my least favorites

[pulsar minnow]

i wanna see the evoker set 😦

[upper pasture]

monk cane set ❤️

[pulsar minnow]

(Not like ill ever really see it)

[upper pasture]

crane

[rain cave]

right is monk it's chiji

[dense plover]

monk?

woah

OH

[deep pawn]

Who's ready to death skip the log in DHT again?

[dense plover]

the cranes

duh

[upper pasture]

yeah lol

[dense plover]

thats sick

but also super healer specific

in a perfect world, there would be different ones for each spec

[deep pawn]

it's better than another set of bead necks

[edgy ivy]

Smolderon was AWOL during the dark iron heritage quest, that's the last we knew of him

[dense plover]

ox for tank and tiger for WW

[upper pasture]

shes fishing for affix news lol

[dense plover]

but still very cool

[rain cave]

just wondering what led us to letting him become firelord

if he just

[deep pawn]

ptr "this week"

[rain cave]

flipped

[dense plover]

oh boo - the axe is 2H?

thats super limited

[deep pawn]

I'm whelmed

[dense plover]

only some classes can use that 😦

and druids cant

[rain cave]

can we appreciate this guy

[dense plover]

which is fucking dumb

[edgy ivy]

The Earthen Ring helped him take the mantle of Firelord

[deep pawn]

it is stupid, why is it always a bloody str weapon?

[rain cave]

"shamans fuck everything up... again"

[dense plover]

3 public events - so hopefully theres always events going on

instead of huge gaps of nothing

[deep pawn]

They've had Ragnaros, Shadowmourne, Arbiter Mace, and now this?

[dense plover]

looks at the time rift event

[edgy ivy]

Glad they're finally involving an elemental lord because it's been a pretty glaring omission

[dense plover]

seriously tho, no druid legendary is a huge miss

[rain cave]

I mean druids are getting new customisations ig

[upper pasture]

i guess they didnt want it to be ALL druid

[rain cave]

druids will def get some special love

[dense plover]

i mean, it was promised before expac release

[tepid fiber]

I'm gonna take this as (completely unjustified) evidence that Survival shall once again take top chair in the meta

[dense plover]

so im just glad theyre following through

[rain cave]

they might announce racewide druids as well

[dense plover]

ofc survival can use it XD

[rain cave]

confused why not now

if they plan on it

[dense plover]

probably not

[deep pawn]

unless it's str only

[dense plover]

would fit for the patch after

like 10.2.5

[tepid fiber]

If it exists it's a hunter weapon 😎

[dense plover]

or 10.2.7

[rain cave]

true

[deep pawn]

they wouldn't make it useable for only one of the 3 2h agi specs

[rain cave]

like once we've defended the dream

and they go

[dense plover]

gotta drip the content

[rain cave]

"oh shit we need more druids"

in the story

[dense plover]

could be str/agi

[rain cave]

so they rebuild their ranks now that the dream is more open to more races

[deep pawn]

Also, a new mount—the Faerie Dragon—can be earned with customizations as you venture forth.

[dense plover]

where it just has the one you need active

NETHERDRAKE CUSTOMIZATIONS

[deep pawn]

again, they've never done something like that where only survival could use it, but not monks and druids

[harsh wedge]

Wowhead post says it is Strength only

[dense plover]

they showed them off

[harsh mason]

Well, is this the latest patch?

[dense plover]

2nd wind ability to instantly regain vigor

[harsh wedge]

Patch 10.2 has been revealed, with Guardians of the Dream featuring a brand new legendary weapon - a two-handed strength axe called Fyr'alath the Dream Render! No details have been revealed just yet as to how players will obtain it, but the axe is said to have been wielded by Fyrakk himself.

[dense plover]

booo

idk where they got the str thing tho

i dont see any blizz info on that

[deep pawn]

wowhead likely has an interview already done

MrGM has one in 40 minutes

[dense plover]

the question is when this is gonna hit ptr

[deep pawn]

this week

[warm topaz]

probably today

same happen with 10.1

[deep pawn]

so today or tomorrow

[warm topaz]

they said sometime this week

and it was that day

[dense plover]

oh awesome

[deep pawn]

icy veins has an interview up already

[obtuse vine]

https://x.com/warcraft/status/1699833413442609394?s=46&t=xCU5PEs1yQwL9rCJRzfUXg

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

Enter the Emerald Dream and defend the new World Tree 🌱

The next major patch of #Dragonflight rolls out on PTR today!

🌙 Emerald Dream Zone
🌱 World Tree Raid
⚔ New PvP and M+ Season
🪓 New Legendary Weapon
✨ Class Talent Updates
🎉 And More!

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306

Twitter · Sep 7, 2023, 5:14 PM

PTR today

[rain cave]

the rogue shaman and DH sets are nice

[deep pawn]

oh no... AOTC mount

[rain cave]

DH set is SPICY

I'm assuming paladin priest and mage?

mage is delicious

[silent urchin]

I think that might be druid in the middle

[rain cave]

nah druid is different

[warm topaz]

in the road map says class sets and not raid sets

is that different?

or like tier set

[rain cave]

this is druid

[rain cave]

tier/class sets are outside of being only raid obtainable now

so

hol up

[austere gazelle]

XD

[ivory meadow]

finally

[rain cave]

what they cookin

[ivory meadow]

rogue changes

[austere gazelle]

So there will be a 10.3 then

Called it

[short prism]

that’s the renown set iirc

[rain cave]

hm

[short prism]

they flashed that when they were showing off renown rewards

[rain cave]

it cut to it when she mentioned druid

ah

[warm topaz]

rogue rework and demon hunter

[short prism]

middle screams hunter to me personally

[ivory meadow]

wait rework?

doesn't say anything about a rework

[upper pasture]

i think hunter is with warlock and monk tbh

[short prism]

i read that as a warrior set!!

like it looks very uhm, warrior-y to me

[rain cave]

#beta-ptr-spoilers message

[upper pasture]

maybe

[rain cave]

I think the middle here is hunter

[short prism]

maybe the helm + dragon shoulder pads

[rain cave]

because it's got the dragon hunter aesthetic

whereas the other one has wolves

which are very shaman

[short prism]

i wonder what the rest of the sets look like

[deep pawn]

there's an AOTC mount

You know what usually happens when we have an aotc mount

[austere gazelle]

Another legendary hunter compatible ?

[rain cave]

DK is gonna be interesting

[deep pawn]

STR only

[austere gazelle]

Yeah, another patch

[rain cave]

will probs lean into the connection to ardenweal a bit

[mossy meteor]

aotc "mount", mythic mount (actual mount)

final raid of the xpac

100%

[deep pawn]

there's actually 3 mounts

a base owl, a mythic only owl, and the fyrakk customization is aotc

[pulsar minnow]

thats questing gear

[austere gazelle]

Not sure they didnt set it up as the last patch at all

[mossy meteor]

well

[deep pawn]

I know they didn't set it up but signs are terrifying

[short prism]

also did other folks catch that weird owl with antlers in the trailer :3?

[deep pawn]

roadmap also doesn't mention anything at all for 2024

[austere gazelle]

If.m thats the case that'll be a very lame way to finish this expack

[short prism]

i wonder if that’s gonna be dragon-rideable at all, since they were set up next to a race

[rain cave]

yeah it was nice

[pulsar minnow]

when did they say this, just curious

[deep pawn]

So we're back to waiting for Blizzcon to find out

The Owl from Fyrakk can dragonride, first non-drake mount

[harsh wedge]

where did you see the owls ?

[deep pawn]

icy-veins

[austere gazelle]

Nowhere but usually they mentions it when its the last patch of an expack

[pulsar minnow]

gotcha

[deep pawn]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/74640-patch-102-interview-with-morgan-day-and-patrick-scarborough/

"Is Patch 10.2 The Final Major Content Patch of Dragonflight?

Guardians of the Dream is certainly the next big chapter in the story and a big turning point. You are seeing the culmination of a lot of characters that have waited for their chance to step into the limelight (Merithra).

They don't want to reveal whether Patch 10.2 is the final major content patch of the Dragonflight expansion."

[pulsar minnow]

weird

[upper pasture]

i was about to post that lol

[mossy meteor]

yeah so

wait until blizzcon

[pulsar minnow]

Vyranoth is going to become an unlikely ally as we embark on a questline with Wrathion who are both misfits of their dragon families. She is going to gain new allies, the Netherwing and Storm Drakes to defend Amirdrassil.

I KNEW IT

I called this like a year ago

[deep pawn]

There's also a new Faerie Dragon mount from the campaign. Another unique mount is the Fire Owl from Mythic Fyrakk, which is the first non-drake mount with dynamic flight.

Fyrakk will drop 2 flavors. The base flavor which will work just like Raszageth, the appearance has a small chance to drop in all difficulties.

A special shadowflamey version of Fyrakk is coming from Ahead of the Curve.

[pulsar minnow]

wrathion collecting all the remnants of the other minor dragon factions

[harsh mason]

He is cool

[upper pasture]

One of them is called Moonkin Mayhem where you save moonkins and they just follow you around and spam Moonfire.

stop this is gonna be so cute

[short prism]

weird, in the interview they mention the new dragon riding abilities and accidentally talk about the ones we got from 10.1

[silent urchin]

no, they aren't

[short prism]

so excited for storm drakes, they’re my favorite sub-flight

[silent urchin]

you cannot currently ground skim at top speed

[upper pasture]

Crests will become a currency and won't take up inventory space in 10.2

THANK GOD

[short prism]

but the air break?

they didn’t mention the thing where we’re supposed to instantly regain vigor at all

something they brought up in the video

[harsh mason]

Oh no, new ship

[silent urchin]

I think the new brake is a slower one, likely to help with the complaints about precise landing

the old brake just stops you

but will have to see on PTR

[pulsar minnow]

that would be... awful

[glass flicker]

I could use less timed events, tbh. This happens every hour, that happens every half an hour. Why not just make it a permanent thing that's going on?

[upper pasture]

one of them relates to upgrading Ground Skimming: While you are at your max speed, you can ground skim. yay groundskimming will be useful!

[glass flicker]

It bothers me. It bothers me a lot. I don't want to have to choose whether I want to do a Dreamsurge, go to Soridormi, or have some soup with the Tuskarr. Come on.

[cosmic beacon]

New legendary for 2h strength wielders

Weapon looks dope asf but whatever class is wielding it in that pic got unlucky with their set

[upper pasture]

i mean fair but soup is almost a year old you still need stuff from that?

[glass flicker]

Rep.

XD

[upper pasture]

dreamsurges also dont take much time to complete either

[deep pawn]

fandy on youtube has an interview

if you cap on crests, you'll start earning lower ones by continuing to do content

[silent urchin]

dreamsurges are whatever, they're almost entirely for alts

[glass flicker]

Not to mention the DMF is up and I don't have the guitar.

There is just too much to do at the same time.

[upper pasture]

i think i only need like 750 more orbs or whatever and im finished there

[glass flicker]

You can't split yourself in five, you have to choose.

And I don't like it.

[upper pasture]

but thats like

life

[glass flicker]

Life has more important priorities than dressing your Barbie doll or gearing it up in big numbers.

[cosmic beacon]

Nah

[upper pasture]

uhh....but in life you have to prioritize yourself not everything is always going on

[glass flicker]

Why do you even compare real life to a game?

[little hound]

sad

[glass flicker]

I'm trying to not think of real life when playing a game.

[harsh mason]

In favor of the fact that this is not the last patch, it says that they recently said that they make more bosses in the last raid than in the previous ones (since the raid lasts longer). But there are 9 bosses in this raid

[pulsar minnow]

Dragonriding Raid Encounter!!!

[harsh mason]

and they haven't said anything at all about whether it's the final or not (although they usually say)

[little hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965753133152223233/1149394776911773797/Moonkin_Customization.png

I hope we get these.

[harsh mason]

but we need to wait, this is my guess

[little hound]

Boomies deserve skin options.

[upper pasture]

Dragonflight Patch 10.2 includes new customization options for Druid forms! Balance Druid Moonkin forms are inspired by

yes we get them

[glass flicker]

Druids for all races soon™?

[upper pasture]

BUT THAT FIRE BALANCE DRUID SKIN

HOLY F

[little hound]

what fire druid skin?

[little hound]

Think the far right one Is earth..

OH

GOD

THAT BETTER BE A SKIN

[upper pasture]

from raid drop

we getting updated fire kitty skin too? 😄

[little hound]

I'd LOVE that new fire bird skin the boss has

[harsh mason]

well, in fact, they confirmed that this is not the final major patch. Otherwise they would have said directly (as it was in draenor and SL)

[deep pawn]

unless they don't want to say that until Blizzcon

cause they know the reaction will be very negative

[upper pasture]

idk i dont see a world were we get 10.2 off the heels of blizzcon and then we ride that until 11.0 a year later

[pulsar minnow]

I think the final patch and 11.0 might "flow into each other" and thats why they're holding back

wow these sets

But still no evoker lmfao

[glass flicker]

Oh, wow. A warrior set I actually like, for once.

Those boots are great.

[upper pasture]

but that helm tho lol

[pulsar minnow]

im shocked they gave the warrior set sleeves and less pronounced gauntlets

thats a first

[glass flicker]

I don't wear helms.

[little hound]

https://tenor.com/view/im-the-juggernaut-bitch-rage-angry-gif-16084327

[deep pawn]

biggest warning sign from all of today's announcements is the existence of an AotC mount

[pulsar minnow]

this would be such an amazing druid form

[upper pasture]

please stop they are likely just trying to give out more rewards for content which IS what the player base has been asking for lol

[deep pawn]

@upper pasture Do you have an example of a non end tier raid that has an aotc achievement mount?

[rustic cliff]

What Aotc mount?

[pulsar minnow]

keep in mind that fyrakk is like the only incarnate that has two forms...

so it kinda makes sense

[upper pasture]

the shadowy owl mount

[deep pawn]

A shadowflame version of Fyrakk will be rewarded from Fyrakk AotC

[rustic cliff]

The owl mount is from mythic

[little hound]

What OWL mount?

[deep pawn]

no, both owl mounts are dropped from him

[pulsar minnow]

both? There's only one.

[silent urchin]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1699837135417930015

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

This is the "Fire Owl" Mount.

It's a drop from Mythic Fyrakk in 10.2 and is the first non-dragon mount with Dynamic flying enabled

Twitter · Sep 7, 2023, 5:28 PM

[deep pawn]

there's two

[little hound]

Ooo..

[upper pasture]

Fyrakk will drop 2 flavors. The base flavor which will work just like Raszageth, the appearance has a small chance to drop in all difficulties.

A special shadowflamey version of Fyrakk is coming from Ahead of the Curve.

oh my b

[pulsar minnow]

Fyrakk drops his normal self on any difficulty. His shadowflame self for AOTC, and the fire owl for mythic.

[harsh mason]

My boy...

[deep pawn]

oh, so two versions of fyrakk

[pulsar minnow]

also keep in mind DF has had a mount for every single raid thus far, which no other expansion has done.

[deep pawn]

still 3 mounts

[upper pasture]

still just more rewards for content which is a constant thing players are asking for

[tepid fiber]

Fairy dragon mount

I'm sold

[silent urchin]

mrgm is showing his interview now

[little hound]

Was he always this armored or?

[deep pawn]

just the last 3 AotC mounts were tied with a final tier so we'll see.

[pulsar minnow]

no its a new model

[little hound]

Ooo.

[tepid fiber]

That's new. He's basically been in the buff this entire time

[deep pawn]

that must be his bargain with the djaradin

[upper pasture]

that axe looks better and better the more i see it lol

[pulsar minnow]

its shadowflame?

[harsh mason]

yes

[glass flicker]

Fyrakk better use his dragon form in this boss fight for some really cool effects.

[deep pawn]

the armor/axe

[pulsar minnow]

looks like its from the firelands

which hes allied with

[glass flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/wrathion-prince-wrathion-world-of-warcraft-visions-of-nzoth-gif-24423423

[subtle oar]

What a huge let down that they aren't using this opportunity to add more Druid race combinations

[pulsar minnow]

he does

[glass flicker]

Like Wrathion did here to stab N'zoth.

Form switching can be so versatile in tactical terms.

[deep pawn]

I'm so scared of the dragon riding raid fight

[tepid fiber]

"I shall fight by your side if you make me some pants"

[deep pawn]

you're gonna have to dodge fire and collect orbs mid combat

[harsh mason]

Although no, he had a different armor. Obviously, this is what Igira was collecting for him

[little hound]

Oooh right!

[glass flicker]

80% of WoW male villains don't wear shirts.

[little hound]

You seen his size? Unless the boss room is on the size of the Eye of Eternity, i can't imagine he will, unless he uses a roaming / dodge lines mechanic for a breath.

[glass flicker]

That's why the Jailer lost. He put on a shirt.

[upper pasture]

i mean who fights without pants on

[glass flicker]

Yeah.

[glass flicker]

Some WWE wrestlers. They wear panties.

[rain cave]

points at raszageth fight

[rain cave]

I mean jailer put a shirt on at the end

arthas wears armor, deathwing I guess technically was shirtless in dragon form

[tepid fiber]

Yeah and that's when they started saying shit that made sense

[rain cave]

but yeah now that I think

[glass flicker]

That's why the Jailer lost, my dude. Wearing armor shows how unconfident he was.

[rain cave]

he covered his strongest weapons

the nips

[glass flicker]

"I'ma need to protect myself from these mortals with sticks"

[tepid fiber]

The moment you wear the t-shirt in the swimming pool you lose all respect

[glass flicker]

Yes. Precisely.

[rain cave]

deathwing had it pretty good before he strapped some armor to his chest

[glass flicker]

And then look at Argus, the gigachad. Wakes up from a nap and picks a fight with whoever is in his vicinity.

[rain cave]

I mean if you woke up and there were a bunch of armed strangers

[glass flicker]

"Mortals... are you hurtin' for a squirtin'?"

[rain cave]

wouldn't you also go for the scythe in your bedside table

let bro have his coffee at least

[glass flicker]

Bro woke up hungover and with a headache, and picked a fight with the first thing he saw.

[rain cave]

just imagining a picture of argus with an icepack as his crown and a giant toothbrush

a towel encircling his waist

bags under his eyes

[deep pawn]

so MrGM interview says if you go too far to the edges of the zone including to the east you fall asleep and get ported. So, odds are we have to fly through the portal.

[glass flicker]

I need fanart of that.

[warm topaz]

a lot of cool interviews with cool people and interviewers

check them out

[glass flicker]

I now imagine Argus unscrewing the scythe to put on a mop end instead and clean titan vomit from the night at the bar with Sargeras.

"Drinking sucks, I'm never doing this again, Sargeras."
Meanwhile, Sargeras walking in with another giant cup of fel.

[rain cave]

argus was just sargeras's personal toothpicker

that's what the scythe was for

[glass flicker]

Argus was just the introvert Sargeras adopted.

[upper pasture]

thats a warrior set i wonder if thats a world content set or the raid set?

[glass flicker]

Looks like a raid set to me.

Too many 3D bits.

[cosmic beacon]

Ah doesn’t look as bad as I thought it might wood

[silent urchin]

pretty similar to the outdoor concept

[cosmic beacon]

[signal bone]

world set

[glass flicker]

Yeah, I'm glad they're branching out to giving us stuff like this.

[silent urchin]

also in the mrgm interview they mentioned the outdoor plate set as being "overgrown plate"

[upper pasture]

oh yeah it is

[glass flicker]

Badum tsh.

[pulsar minnow]

something interesting

Behind fyrakk is the seed of the world tree

https://imguscdn.gamespress.com/cdn/files/BlizzardLive/2023/09/012215-6aeb9d46/WoW_Dragonflight_10.2_Raid-Amirdrassil_Fyrakk_003_png_jpgcopy.jpg?otf=y&lightbox=y&ex=2023-11-01+03%3A00%3A00&sky=ebcb1b5e2f07efc8df91e7d2c34e58b472391b702c4c704bdf33d3b43d9a911a&w=1024&maxheight=4096&mode=pad&format=jpg

[silent urchin]

Dragon is definitely p2

[pulsar minnow]

when hes in dragon form it looks like it's opened or as if its attacking him

[silent urchin]

or later phase

[glass flicker]

Noice, he does change forms like I wanted.

Pog.

[pulsar minnow]

but also it looks like the leaves surrounding the tree are on fire

[deep pawn]

the wood set is world content

[upper pasture]

i really hope this leggo is not drop depended on starting it. cause god damn fuck the cracked titan gem

[deep pawn]

warrior tier is kinda meh.

[cosmic beacon]

Fyraks visage looks goofy

Looks like a side villain from dbz

[silent urchin]

Oooh, if you're capped on crests you automatically get the next one down instead

[deep pawn]

that's warrior and priest

[cosmic beacon]

Ngl I kinda like the warrior set

[upper pasture]

isnt that the pvp part of the interview?

[cosmic beacon]

Besides the arms

[upper pasture]

could that be pvp sets?

[silent urchin]

"Upgrades per week from 10 down to 6"

[deep pawn]

pvp and tier are the same appearances

[upper pasture]

oh yeah thats right lol

[silent urchin]

"Expanding the hero and myth tracks"

"Hero can go further, myth can go all the way to the end"

(from the MrGM interview, will have a youtube link fairly soon)

Heroic and M0 dungeons contribute to vault

[upper pasture]

thats crazy!

[silent urchin]

it will still be the same pool of M+ dungeon loot

so you won't have weird situations trying to target farm a dragonflight trinket that's not in the M+ season

TIL evokers can use 2h axes

[harsh mason]

Death Knight
Evoker
Hunter
Paladin
Shaman
Warrior

[cosmic beacon]

They can mog them

[deep pawn]

eh?

[silent urchin]

2h axe classes

[cosmic beacon]

The weapon would have to be strength and intellect

[harsh mason]

These are the classes that will be able to carry the legendary axe

Damn, I didn't attach the link https://www.wowhead.com/ru/news/legendary-fyralath-2-handed-axe-has-no-class-specific-ties-dot-esports-group-334883

[deep pawn]

oh you replied to something unrelated so I was confused

[cosmic beacon]

We still don’t know the exacts about the item tho so it might be only strength or only intellect etc

[deep pawn]

There's no way they'd give Survival a leggo but not druid/monk

[cosmic beacon]

[harsh mason]

And yes, I also accidentally replied

[obtuse vine]

I think 10.3 just got confirmed

[cosmic beacon]

Wdym

[austere gazelle]

"Hidden from daylight, A sleeping flame rests atop the sixth tree"

[obtuse vine]

In the mrgm interview they say they’re considering adding more renown levels to other existing renown tracks “as the expansion progresses”

[warm topaz]

maybe 10.2.5/2.7

[cosmic beacon]

That could easily be a bonus season after this patch

Or ye mini patches after

[austere gazelle]

can they stop doing legendaries for the same classes every single time ? xD

[silent urchin]

it was more about adding more catchup to old renowns, than adding new levels

[cosmic beacon]

Wdym same classes

Evokers and hunters ye

Not been a 2h strength lego since wrath

[austere gazelle]

but there as been one.

I mean what about Rogue... DH ... ?

[harsh mason]

Did I understand correctly, the ptr will be launched today?

[deep pawn]

"When it comes to what's next, Hazzikostas and Longdale joked about rumors regarding WoW's next expansion being pirate-themed, a theory Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently shot down in a tweet. Patch 10.2 will introduce Azeroth's magical nature realm, the Emerald Dream, as a new zone, something that many players have long theorized could be an expansion in itself. Hazzikostas said when it comes to expansions, the team looks for places that can include a diversity of settings and vibes, something the Emerald Dream lacks. It's for that same reason the team discarded an older idea revolving around an Old God themed expansion, which Hazzikostas said would have started to "feel pretty oppressive" were the team to stick to the dark tone its subject matter demanded."

[silent urchin]

Should be today

[upper lantern]

Priest and warlock sets looking good as usual

[silent urchin]

But as with everything PTR, there's always potential for issues and delay

[short prism]

i hope they’re atleast setting it up to happen during the 10.2.X window! it could work really well as a 10.2.5 feature

[austere gazelle]

" Pirate Themed " , maybe that could just be the setting to go to the next continent, but will drop soon after. I mean pirate themed does not mean there wont be a single pirate in the expansion

[deep pawn]

"Next year will mark WoW's 20th anniversary. That would seem an opportune time for Blizzard to revamp WoW's original continents, the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor, much in the way it did with 2010's Cataclysm expansion. Hazzikostas said an old world revamp is something that is "likely to happen" in the future, but that the team would learn lessons from Cataclysm, which was criticized for essentially deleting parts of 2004-era WoW, and use modern solutions to preserve currently existing pieces of the game were it to become a reality.

"We are definitely open to it at some point," Hazzikostas said. "It is a shortcoming, if you take a step back and think about World of Warcraft as an ongoing living world, if we've kind of painted ourselves into a corner where we have all these iconic locations but we can't really use them because they've already been used.""

[harsh mason]

no pirates

[deep pawn]

"Longdale said the plan is for the eight week content update schedule to continue into the future, and that the WoW team has expanded in recent months and years to deliver on the idea that Azeroth is alive and there should always be new things to discover and even newer things right around the corner."

hmm

it hasn't been 8 weeks every time has it?

[austere gazelle]

So there might be at least a 10.2.7

[deep pawn]

8 weeks is 10/31

there's no way this patch comes out days before Blizzcon

[short prism]

those are pvp sets

[deep pawn]

Is the same tier set though

[upper lantern]

Same design, different colors yeah

[deep pawn]

this expansion class sets are shared between pve and pvp

[short prism]

oh yeah true

huh

i do love the warrior sleeves

[silent urchin]

it's not been exactly 8 weeks

but its been around 8 weeks

[short prism]

that actually makes me happy, i didn’t want to have to do pvp for them LOL

[deep pawn]

MrGM has seen all the tier sets

[silent urchin]

I think 10.0.7 lasted 6

[upper pasture]

guess i should save my rep tokens lol

[deep pawn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5cNv9rXYAAoTCy?format=jpg&name=large

[short prism]

i love the mage set hat

so fun!!

[dense plover]

source?

middle doesnt look like druid

looks more like shaman or hunter

[deep pawn]

preheat's twitter it's his speculation

[dense plover]

definitely not druid then

[deep pawn]

we know hunter it's on the wowhead post

[dense plover]

then shaman i guess

the pants read mail, not leather

[deep pawn]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1121961.jpg?maxWidth=800

[upper pasture]

naw shaman has the ghost wolfs

[deep pawn]

middle is hunter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5cNk_HW0AAHHcR?format=jpg&name=large

[upper pasture]

warlock/hunter/monk

dk set looks good ngl

[dense plover]

ok i dont see how you do that for shaman but then thats druid?

its so lack luster for druid

[deep pawn]

druids have had owls before

[upper pasture]

the owlbear on the shoulders and the fire feathers? coming from the fire world tree raid?

[short prism]

also claw gloves

very druidy

[dense plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

its just lame comparatively

[upper pasture]

subjective

[short prism]

i like it, we’re getting like

[dense plover]

shaman gets huge ghost wolves, monk gets cool cranes

[short prism]

several more sets that also fit different flavors of druid fantasy

[dense plover]

druid gets flat tall shoulders and almost no 3d bits

[rain cave]

the druid set isn't bad per se

it just looks like it's a TBC set or something

[dense plover]

^^^^

it has half the detail of some of the other sets

[short prism]

the shoulders are dope

[dense plover]

flat chest piece, flat pants

[short prism]

idk, just not ur thing prolly

did you see the outdoor sets?

[dense plover]

yes

those are cool

[upper pasture]

the DH set is interesting tho

that helmet

[dense plover]

im just complaining because it will look like shit on my tauren druid

[rain cave]

DH's get no head

[dense plover]

tall shoulders never look good on tauren

[rain cave]

blizzard confirms