beta-ptr-spoilers

[languid yoke]

but it only happens on one of my 3 evokers

[deep pawn]

The swiftmend bugs been around for a couple weeks but I've never been able to replicate

[crystal pond]

Wait
Afterlives/Warbringers was droped before pre-patch or in pre-patch?

[errant prairie]

I think i remember the Bastion Afterlives happened before prepatch

Like they were the weekly countdown to prepatch

[upper pasture]

Yeah I think the bastion one was super early

[crystal pond]

Man
Now I pray for New animations to drop soon 😔

[upper pasture]

To make hype then they were like hot damn we’re gonna have more of these coming the weeks before launch

[errant prairie]

Prepatch for shadwlands was in Oct 13 if im not wrong and the Bastion Afterlives was on August 27th

[upper pasture]

The cinematics are also a good watch. At least to me

[errant prairie]

They are

[crystal pond]

I hope it will be animations about aspects and dragons before all go shit

[upper pasture]

Very much looking forward to them/it

[errant prairie]

Do we have any idea how many of them there will be? I assume 4.

[crystal pond]

Atm its 3

[upper pasture]

Maybe one? Maybe one for each flight

[crystal pond]

With emberthal quest

Maybe 4

Would be cool if there will be 5 of them

[errant prairie]

I just wish they could give us a trailer like they did for Afterlives, to at least let us know they are coming

maybe next week though

[upper pasture]

honestly i think the right move would be to do one for each flight no? like start with red and end on black or maybe bronze.

[ancient jasper]

Asked about it on the Forums and several other people are having the same issue so.. No.

[dense plover]

Oh so new bug

Gotcha

[worn crown]

I loved the Harbingers cinematics for Legion. Especially the Gul'dan one

[tropic trail]

is it easier to do mythic+ on a melee dps or ranged dps?

who has to avoid mechanics more?

[ancient jasper]

I feel like Melee tends to have to avoid stuff more often then Ranged, but.. Melee DPS here so might be biased.

[tropic trail]

i've played both.

just wanted outside perspective

[livid walrus]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fishing-artifact-bugs/393182 some issues i found with the Fishing Artifact

anotehr broken ui.

Heart of Azeroth is now not dormant while being in dragon isles.

nvm

[glad niche]

So hows transmog work on dracthyr? Say I wanna hide gear shoulder pieces in dracthyr form, are they now hidden in visage as well or are there seperate loadouts for the two?

[dense plover]

Same load out

Vendor 3 just got an even newer build

Might be going to both PTR and Beta today or tomorrow since they want to test the event tomorrow

[glad niche]

Playing around a little on the PTR build, is there no way to change the hotbars to the old (current live) built? I like to two longer bars more then thse three stacked bars.

I guess I can just use all the extras to jimmy something together, forgot theres MORE BARS

[ancient jasper]

Yep 8 now instead of 6

[crystal pond]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=199335/zepharion

Is this npc have New set of horns?

[dense plover]

bug report still isnt fixed btw

so theyre probably pushing one of the vendor builds tomorrow

[dense plover]

pretty sure its one of the sets the new dragon models can have

[tropic trail]

im not sure which class i want to play

Death Knight, Demon Hunter, or Warlock

They all have equal fun to me and i know them well.

[proper scarab]

I feel you... I love mage (my main) and hunter, I'd like to keep playing mage as main but I'm sick and tired of hearing "what, frost mage? no, no spot for you in our teams"

but that's also because frost is a b*stard spec and you rely too much on procs etc etc so my dps is not the best around 😄

[upper lantern]

Tough choice, yeah. 2 melee who can easily switch to tank if your group needs it, and a ranged class with gateway, summoning gate, healthstones

[ocean pawn]

afaik dh will suck in df

so care --

[upper pasture]

sounds subjective but go on

[ocean pawn]

btw
if you want to submit bugs use /run GetMouseFocus():Hide() hovering submit

its the same bug like with the bags a few w ago, there is something over the ticket frame

[tropic trail]

yeah i just dont know

also i've never tanked before

but id be willing to try

[crystal pond]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Progress_Report:_Uldorus

Do not know if any saw it, but gonna drop it here

Nvm found a better thing

Galakrond drinked poopy Water

[tropic trail]

wat

[ocean pawn]

you can update it as txt discord will add a frame

[grizzled oasis]

Does the PTR have the dracthyrs yet?

Or are they still on beta only.

[dense plover]

It won’t until after expac launches

Anything that requires you to own the expansion doesn’t go to PTR until after launch of the expansion itself

[grizzled oasis]

I see was thinking it might be on there due to prepatch because if I am not mistaken usually they release new races during pre-patch.

[dense plover]

Yeah - but you need to own the expansion

Anything that requires you to OWN the expansion doesn’t go to ptr until after launch

That’s always been the case

[plain violet]

Big revelation..

[silver copper]

Galakrond ate the Old God yellow snow and the Titans went to subjugate the dragons. Odyn was the hero all along

[livid walrus]

the prepatch activity in tirisfall glade is active on the past phase of tirisfall glade and not present I think it is an issue as it would mean the primalists time travel back in time

[dense plover]

Report it

[livid walrus]

I did ofc..

the issue is the present phase is only on frangment of the map and not whole. as it always been :<

[dense plover]

Realistically probably can be active in both unless the post phase is default active at 60

Even then I think you can do prepatch below 60

So probably should be in both

[livid walrus]

well it is active in the present but the present is only on part of the map xD

this is the whole vs the present part

only between the red line is 'present'

[ionic terrace]

seems pretty buggy to me

[livid walrus]

And yes it is silly they didnt work it whole

[livid walrus]

it always been this case

[ionic terrace]

just mobs to kill that drop nothing

so far anyway

[dense plover]

I believe they are supposed to be in different parts of the zone for different elements

4 elements, 4 different locations

Helps vary things vs the legion assaults being in the same place in a zone every time

[ionic terrace]

ooohhh

i see

there's smaller things

but the big one like

here

that's where the boss is

[livid walrus]

take a screenshot pls

[ionic terrace]

of what

seems a bit eh so far

[dense plover]

Of what it looks like in game

Skybox, mobs, terrain, etc

[ionic terrace]

sec

[dense plover]

Some of us are working right now and can’t participate

[ionic terrace]

earth in un'goro

it seems there's 4 points but only one of them has primalists/boss

and the FoS is to kill all four bosses

protection is removed from killing mobs

this one started at 850k ish hp, gonna need some tuning

that being said

@dense plover @livid walrus

[livid walrus]

oh lol i must be next to you

[ionic terrace]

😛

[livid walrus]

I just done this boss lol

[ionic terrace]

yeah feels a bit underwhelming rn

[errant prairie]

the ice one paints ur screen blue

[ionic terrace]

i was hoping it would be more like the legion event

[errant prairie]

kind of annoying ngl

[livid walrus]

i get cata vibes

[ionic terrace]

yea

[livid walrus]

or those 5.3 shamans in barrens

[plain violet]

Oooh great, thanks!

Nice tying.

Yes, I like how they relied the two. Titans lying, something that was subtext since Legion...

[dense plover]

This is from SLs right?

[livid walrus]

Nope, this is from the new ulduman

[deep pawn]

We better not see Zereth Ordus this expansion so soon after Mortis

[deep pawn]

I still wonder if reality isn't just the plane of order given the titans didn't leave to regenerate and the abundance of arcane magic

[uncut vault]

this book pretty explicitly establishes it as a separate plane

[deep pawn]

It mentions a place other than Zereth Ordus?

Cause Mortis isn't part of the shadowlands for example

[uncut vault]

it is, it's "within the fabric of the shadowlands"

[deep pawn]

Hmm, don't recall that quote. The impression I had gotten was behind maybe but separate

[dense plover]

What’s that?

The new book?

[errant prairie]

galakkrond had a big bad sippy

[uncut vault]

There are 5 books, one is the text linked earlier, the others have to do with Odyn's edicts to the other keepers, a report about rebel titanforged and another new Keeper, a new subspecies of dwarves, and post-Loken betrayal Tyr sending a letter to the other keepers

I can link any of them if people want to see them

[glad niche]

Idk where to post this since this is DF gear i can see in the dressing room. What will these spaulders be from?

[uncut vault]

According to the appearance tab, theyre from World Drops

[glad niche]

ty, I just had Mail and DF selected so. Im very unfamiliar with backwards searching unreleased gear

[uncut vault]

Yeah you can't see the source in the dressing room sadly

[lean yew]

So primalist invasions will start with evoker release right

Seemingly the 3rd week of prepatch

ie November 15th

[uncut vault]

Yeah they do

[lean yew]

I’ve tried multiple times in the alpha and beta and evokers seemingly cannot get a heart of azeroth.

[uncut vault]

I dont believe new characters can get them at all since Shadowlands

[lean yew]

Which makes sense because why make essences for new classes - but also I think that cuts you off from being able to do a lot of bfa content including nzoth stuff

[uncut vault]

the new BfA intro simply gives you the kul tiras/zandalar quests

[deft carbon]

Just my screens hot from Azure Span :)

[lean yew]

Or maybe not. I thought some things require a heart of azeroth to progress the storyline. I could be wrong

I know you’ll need to get a legendary cloak for nzoth stuff

But I think evokers can

[deep pawn]

You should get a heart at level 50. You could in the SL prepatch. You just don't get one levelling

You may need to go to Silithus

Essences are pretty class agnostic. Azerite armor may be weird

[ancient jasper]

There's no way in hell they have this all ready to go by October 25th lol

[deep pawn]

The event doesn't need to be

[ancient jasper]

No but the UI, Talents, Tuning and various other things DO need to be.

[silent urchin]

Eh things are probably balanced enough. The prepatch is always wild for tuning anyway, gonna be 10 talents short and all sorts of other things

UI and talent functionality is basically fine afaik

[deep pawn]

Oct 25 would be a 5 week prepatch and currently evokers and the prepatch event look to be 2 weeks

They could delay prepatch a week no problem

[dense plover]

They might considering they closed the event early

Might not be a bad idea tbh

I still think like I thought 6 months ago, November is too soon

There’s still so many bugs

[upper pasture]

i just hope the prepatch event is long enough to collect the transmog if they are limited time

[deep pawn]

Oh expansion is happening 11/28 no questions

[dense plover]

They can always increase the amount of currency

[deep pawn]

A 4 week prepatch vs 5 week when the event is only 2 weeks is minor

[candid ruin]

45 days away from release

[grizzled idol]

why are the ptr realms offline?

[dense plover]

Error with the prepatch event

So they took the realms down

[grizzled idol]

f

[dense plover]

Unknown when they will return

[crystal pond]

I wonder what did they drop that broken every single code of other things in game

[tulip sun]

Hopefully they'll be back sometime

[errant prairie]

Someone correct me if Im wrong, i barely played with the primal storms in DF but arent the invasions and storms the same systems? Random spawns in one area?

[uncut vault]

So far they mostly seem to be, yes

[errant prairie]

icic

[ionic terrace]

new ptr build

[tulip sun]

Is the prepatch in it?

[errant prairie]

PTR is up but so far no invasions up currently, nor Uldaman Qs or questline. Unless I am looking at the wrong place rn.

[deep pawn]

They wouldn't be testing it right now

[tulip sun]

Why not?

Didnt they say they wanted to

[deep pawn]

They said they'd tell us when they're ready to test again

[little hound]

Cuz there were too many critical errors, so they'll adjust that and re-test at another time.

[glad niche]

So not that too many here will be surprised but for any like me not in the beta and curious - I found this!https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYNZcqQUUAADKuZ.jpg

[dense plover]

is the bug report still broken?

[ancient jasper]

I'll check

On Beta, at least, it still is.

Looks to be working on the PTR

[vestal wing]

Can't report the bug on the bug report!

[abstract ether]

you can if you use this trick, allegedly #beta-ptr-spoilers message

[dense plover]

dangit

[dense plover]

thank you

[errant prairie]

https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/1581117834989486082

Zorbrix 💙 (@Zorbrix)

The Feedback/Bug Reporter tool is working on Beta again (and PTR as well).

The max-level Beta realm has some potential issues with it, but it should work for dragon isles content on the level-up Beta realms.

https://t.co/qS6t2a0UeU

Twitter · Oct 15, 2022, 3:00 AM

[dense plover]

FINALLY

yes

[deep pawn]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/bug-reporter-is-bugged-1368878

How the heck does the desktop app affect that?

oh, pushed a beta build entirely

[dense plover]

2 new mp3 files

[dense plover]

the same way it wiped all my installs but theyre still there

install format changed

or at least 2 new mp3s in the manifest

4687622
4867720

neither file appears to be in yet

looks like we may get more new music soon

[errant prairie]

give me grizzly hills 2.0 music

[ancient jasper]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/weapon-illusions-can-now-be-applied-to-artifact-weapons-in-dragonflight-329372

Oh shit

[dense plover]

the valdrakken storyline is fixed

logged in and just got "to tyrhold"

[rain cave]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/status/1580987149289082881
(thanks porter for pics)

but damn they're really spelling the titans out to be dickheads huh

Portergauge 🏳️‍🌈 (@Portergauge)

There's a book in the new Uldaman dungeon, this gives us the answer to what caused Galakrond fairly flat out lol, and the answer to one of the currently unknown titan facilities.

Also titans put chemicals in the water that turned the dragons gay

Likes

158

Twitter · Oct 14, 2022, 6:21 PM

[languid yoke]

considering the primalists are very anti-titan this seems like a perfect time

[rain cave]

well I knew the titans were a bit suspect

[languid yoke]

then again Odyn has always been a dickhead. Not a titan, but close enough

[rain cave]

but the wording here seems nigh malicious lmao

[deep pawn]

What makes you think beings of pure order would be super keen on free will haha

[crystal pond]

Yeah I mean
After algalon its not a suprise to be fair

[deep pawn]

Plus all their creations are mechanical robots

Some stone, sorry

[gilded finch]

when i submit a bug report, does ingame location data get sent too? its in nokhud offensive and i cant get tom tom coordinates

[dense plover]

yes

auto report tool knows where you are, character info and some other basic stuff

you can go to a mining node in a wrong place, stand on it and say "wrong location mining node" and thats a good report

[ocean pawn]

or quite often disappearing objects on rotating camera --

[ionic terrace]

@dense plover they brought back the prof vendors on valdrakken

[ocean pawn]

ie there was a stone in the cave with drawings that half-hides them

[ionic terrace]

ik you were looking for them

[dense plover]

once the menus arent broken

[ionic terrace]

yeah true

they still work, they just look like crap rn lol

but i get it

[uncut lintel]

wow

the pre patch rewards fucking suck

so much for cool green glowing armor

more like blue questing gear and the only decent one is the plate

and no mount either i got hyped up for no reason

@cosmic beacon they just keep letting me down man

killing elementals for trash is not worth

[cosmic beacon]

deez

atleast feral is looking good in df

cant complain

[uncut lintel]

but thing is

im maning evoker

[dense plover]

theyve only done a mount a few times and the backlash was always terrible

because it becomes a limited time mount

like the burning of teldrassil mounts

the invasions also shouldnt be static

on the strings for the event, theres elemental ones of each type for each location

i think they just didnt have time to test them

[uncut lintel]

ppl who complain abt limited time stuff just dont need to paly the game cuz they need to accept the realization that they will always add fomo, also, i just wished this event even with no mount reward atleast gave cool mog or something but no ofc its trash not sure why i was even hyped up for a pre patch that is obviously rushed

[dense plover]

the heirloom being a trinket is lame

if it was a ring, i would be much happier

[uncut lintel]

yea but thats why its a trinket

they dont want happy playerbase

[dense plover]

i mean

i think its more that this prepatch event is going to be VERY short

so they want to avoid fomo as a result

i think the datamined armor will probably be moved someplace else

[uncut lintel]

well thats fixed, barely anyones probably gonna do pre patch due to the rewards being shit

[dense plover]

252 ilvl is nice

[uncut lintel]

i mean

[dense plover]

especially if you have a fresh alt

[uncut lintel]

i guess

[dense plover]

my DH is 125

i do not want to bother doing MORE SLs endgame

fuck that

[uncut lintel]

ke

wow fail

thats the reason i didnt level alt above 50 really

i dont wanna do SL endgame anymore im bored

when even is pre patch do we have date?

[dense plover]

no

[uncut lintel]

ofc not

[errant prairie]

my own copium filled thoughts are that: This tuesday we might get a prepatch announcement of some kind, considering its the FF14 patch. And for some reason WoW's PR team wants to try to announce stuff during those times.

But I could be wrong.

And I hope I am wrong. It is pretty boring seeing them try to announce something just cause another MMO is announcing or doing something.

[uncut vault]

the weird thing is, it wouldnt even need to be FOMO

the vendors are in valdrakken

the currency drops from the actual dragon isles elemental invasions too

[uncut lintel]

[dense plover]

@uncut vault i like new sendrax

it still has bass tones

it just sounds more like an actual actor and less like someone playing around

and its less deep

semi-related - i love the voices of the npcs from the dragonscale expedition

[uncut lintel]

ok but now im thinking

i would really like them to add like already in game dragon customizations like the aotc mount from bfa as a custom option for those who have the original mount as a dragonriding thing < . < that would be sick

[glass fulcrum]

It seems they disabled the illusions on artifacts

[uncut lintel]

nooo

whyyy

i was excited for that

[dense plover]

when would they have done that?

there hasnt been a build

[glad niche]

I thought that illusion thing was announced but not implemented yet, But I could have easily misread it

[dense plover]

looks just fine on beta

@glass fulcrum

where are you testing stuff that you just are flatout incorrect?

[uncut lintel]

this guy kapping fr then

i bet he no have beta

[dense plover]

\ ¯_(ツ)_/¯

my only guess is they checked retail

[uncut lintel]

💀

[dense plover]

which isnt where the change is active

or theyre trying to put the visuals on the actual weapon and not the mogged version

which yeah, probably doesnt work

different tech

[uncut lintel]

💀

[glass fulcrum]

I wasn't tabbed in didn't see this, I honestly should have checked more but i did test it just on PTR because my friend was on there. Yeah should have checked beta though. I was attempting to apply the transmog to a shadowlands weapon with a legion artifact applied over it.

[dense plover]

so

to be clear

my current thoughts are this is a bug

and it wont go live

[glass fulcrum]

Prob wont, but hope it does

[dense plover]

but the beta build is newer than ptr

so thats what matters

[glass fulcrum]

just double checked and yeah its on beta just not on ptr

[dense plover]

oh cool

i just figured out what last build did

it added the cutscenes

theyre encrypted and still listed as unk files

im gonna post the file sizes: 41.6 MB, 165MB, 83MB, 35MB, 139MB, 69.8MB, 35.7MB, 142.7MB, 71.4 MB\

[glad niche]

I have a request! I with to see pepe atop a dracthyr noggin!

Any pepe is fine but preferably nude pepe so I can see em without cosplay clunk

(pepe isnt working on dracthyr in dressing room for me)

[dense plover]

so yeah - 9 cutscenes so far

some of them are freaking massive

so we are either getting some CGI cutscenes or some REALLY long ones

the big argus cutscene that was like 4 min was 142MB if i remember correctly

so 3 of them would be 4-5 min long OR CGI

[uncut vault]

Those are probably the 2.5D ones, yeah?

Unless those are already in

[dense plover]

idk

theyre not in sequence

and last time those were added after and were never encrypted

[glad niche]

dang! Considering dracthyr are male zandalari height, thats a chunky birb!

[dense plover]

my guess is one of them is raid end, another is the one related to raid start, and another is related to all of the oathstones being empowered

but its hard to say

all i know is that right now, in the last build, they added 9 encrypted cutscenes

its a ton

[sinful wigeon]

Hey I'm trying to plan out my tailoring specializing. What is the thing that upgrades making profession armor? Or did they make it so tailoring doesn't make some of the profession armors?

[rare hemlock]

have you played beta?

[uncut vault]

I assume you mean the mother oathstone? Cause yeah that and the Chromie/Nozdormu moments are two very big ones in Thaldraszus with no cutscene at all atm

[dense plover]

yes?

[dense plover]

yes

i think those 2 and then the raid end

those might be the big 3

hard to say

unrelated - DH is broken af

[rare hemlock]

in PvP?

[dense plover]

No

i dont play pvp

[rare hemlock]

oh, well then it doesnt matter

[dense plover]

they just have a ridiculous amount of survivability and self healing/leech

[rare hemlock]

are you the DH that got booted out of a leveling dungeon because you were pulling everything?

[dense plover]

what?

no

theres like 10s of thousands of people playing beta

also i never run dungeons on beta

[rare hemlock]

im joking

[dense plover]

wasnt obvious OR funny

just weird tbh

[rare hemlock]

you take this way too seriously

[dense plover]

or it could just be that theres no way to see tone

[crystal pond]

Typical dh

Whats wrong with dh also?

Another "twilight devastation" or what?

[silent urchin]

huh, world boss is active

[zinc furnace]

are there any more beta keys going out?

[dense plover]

weekdays

check tomorrow for a post that shows what streamers have keys to giveaway

@uncut vault keyboard turner got the duration for the cutscenes

4687614 (9.25MB - 19 sec), 4687610 (139.60MB - 293 sec), 4687606 (142.78MB - 300 sec), 4687598 (29.29MB - 62 sec), 4687594 (59.49MB - 125 sec), 4687590 (99.82MB - 210 sec), 4687586 (62.55MB - 131 sec), 4500478 (152.79MB - 321 sec, expansion intro cinematic) all avi

so there are 5 over 2 min

only 1 short cinematic

[silent urchin]

I imagine 3-4 are warbringers style shorts?

So not all fully rendered ones

Still a lot of cinematics, and there's tons and tons of IGCs too

[plain violet]

A lot yes, and a really good duration with that.

[paper badger]

Is the catch up gear going to be available in pre patch? Cus i saw this note

[dense plover]

That’s a different thing than the prepatch stuff

Those storms are in the dragon isles

The prepatch has primalist invasions

[zinc furnace]

the crafted gear seemd pretty high even the first one you can buy

it will be easy catch up gear

[crystal pond]

So we will be able to visit dragon Isles in pre-patch?

[uncut lintel]

dunno

[errant prairie]

the only way, that I know of, we can visit the Dragon Isles is just the evoker starting zone and thats it. I assume they will add some kind of invisible wall or something to keep us from soaring over on our Evokers.

[dense plover]

no

theres 2 types of primalist things

one for prepatch in old world

one in isles during Season 1

the only part of prepatch with the isles will be forbidden reach

which ends with you leaving for your faction capital

[rain cave]

no

unles you count dracthyr but

[glad niche]

Evoker Weapons and Armor
Evokers can equip Daggers, Staves, Fist Weapons, One-Handed Swords, One-Handed Axes and One-Handed Maces. They can also use offhands, but cannot dual wield.

Can someone clarify what exactly the last bit means? As in cant dual weild the one handed items like mace and axe? When I think dual wield my brain goes to swords or bigger so. Thought Id ask.

[zinc furnace]

dual wield means 2 weapons of any kind

shield is not a weapon

[glad niche]

So they are pretty much always using an offhand "focus" type thing, when not using staves then?

nvm I found a more updated and precise list, ty

[uncut vault]

They can also use two handed swords, axes, and maxes

So yes it just means they can’t dual wield like a rogue or warrior

[glad niche]

Was hoping to dual wield stinkrot smasher mogs tbh lmao

[uncut lintel]

we do we kno if we r keeping the calling type system in DF? or they removing them? i love callings

[uncut vault]

So far there are no callings, instead there is a weekly that gives rep with all of the reputations

as well as a larger number of dailies/weeklies instead of world quests

[ocean pawn]

well idk we hoped/read the dragonflights will be covenants hence callings
but the wq reset twice a week.. so maybe wont be like that :(

there are many areas we haven't done anything in

[uncut vault]

The dragonflights as a whole are only one rep, the Valdrakken Accord

the others are the main non-dragon group in that zone

[ocean pawn]

nop there were ppl saying we will choose a dragonflight, and it would be cool

and really, the area near chromie, cobalt assembly, etc

[uncut vault]

I think that was probably just pre-alpha theorycrafting haha

[ocean pawn]

they just, exist rn ;d

[uncut vault]

Cobalt Assembly and the black dragons do have reputations, at the very least

[ocean pawn]

em ppl were talking about that but its up to blizzard

[uncut vault]

just not mainline renown ones

[ocean pawn]

it isnt rep, it is talent tree with no rewards atm

the rep is to unlock buffs in the area..

wait scratch that

there was a vendor there mb

idk its possible these areas to be for questlines unlocked at renown

but i really wanted to choose a dflight :(

(although, according to general everyone wants blue or bronze xd)

[dense plover]

theres no evidence the renown questlines are involved

[dense plover]

not happening

the entire point is unifying the flights to re-awaken the mother oathstone

so the flights can regain their powers

people assumed they were going to go the covenant route

after SLs i dont think they will ever again

[glad niche]

iirc in an interview video I watched a long while back they specifically said there would be NO reiteration of covenants. At least not the way they did stuff in SL. In which case anything they do in DF will be very different.

[ocean pawn]

nop point was purely cosmetic stuff

like pick a drake and show off

[glad niche]

Id have no idea where to find it cause it was either a wowhead article with a vid embedded or something on youtube which would be burried in my view history.

Youll kinda be doing that just through the mount customizations

[ocean pawn]

y side that

mogs and quest hub etc

[upper pasture]

i remember the "leaks" that came out saying you choose flight but nothing official ever came out like that

[dense plover]

because it was a fanfic essentially

[ocean pawn]

amm no peach 3 ppl tell you it was announced-ish :)

[dense plover]

people making stuff up =/= real

it was fake'

[upper pasture]

yeah, it was prolly cooked up by someone who loved the covenant system or someone who wanted to stoke the fire of the ole "blizzard is dying" camp

[ocean pawn]

tbf idk, no idea who announced it

i thought its an interview by blizz

and, pure customization is what most ppl wanted (yet not me)

it may also be a thing that would be cool, but they wont do cuz release..

[rain cave]

I was thinking they'd do that since it would fit with how they evolved artifacts to HOA

thought they'd keep covenants as flights

there is that other rumour that shadowlands was a much different expansion earlier in development and was meant to be tied into dragonflight more

which might be why DF has had more development time

and maybe they scrapped that choosing a flight thing when SL launched

or maybe it was meant to be DF's borrowed power mechanic but they retooled it for SL

after all the covenants didn't really matter in the grand scheme of the SL story

but makes a lot more sense as a system for a dragon expansion

[rare hemlock]

hopefully they fix the object pop-in on Beta right now. the FPS dips are nuts. Object detail isn't drawing correctly

[uncut vault]

Turns out we've got nightborne paladins on beta now lol

[errant prairie]

Bless Elune

[dense plover]

personally, i would report that as a bug

[dense plover]

@uncut vault

that last bit?

thats probably why the centaur dont have a questline on beta

its tied to the green flight and its likely its all encrypted

[uncut lintel]

where can i go to see dracthyr doing emotes like laughing and stuff for art refs

thought it would be on dressing room but no

[crystal pond]

They dont have questlines what?

[dense plover]

They’re the only renown without a renown unlocked questline

[dense plover]

Model viewer

[plain violet]

It was hidden in the forbidden reach.

@uncut vault Could interest you!

Because well, Sindragosa seem to knew, in fact...

... Now, this is interesting.

Really interesting.

So more knew... or did forget.. and there war more than just soul and dragon. And this reinforce the "they are dangerous"

[crimson jasper]

this is extremely interesting

thanks for sharing it @plain violet

[plain violet]

You're welcome! Pleasure is mine, I enjoy searching and the starter zone has interesting elements between the phases or if we search more.
But yes, another text even suggest Sindragosa knew about this, even if she claim the contrary in the Azure Span. (And the anger of Telash is so... understandable)

[dense plover]

Well, the version in the Span is a hologram thing

It doesn’t know everything

[plain violet]

You could be right yes, that it was done before.

[crystal pond]

How the items is called?

[plain violet]

"What the Aspects fear"

Yup, it's even more ominous.. 😁

[crystal pond]

Found a quest that related to this items
There 3 of them
Did you found third one?

[plain violet]

Not yet, but I can search more. I only found two..

"The cure", mh.. 🤔
I will search now, but it is possible that was retired.

Or it's a trace of an after quest.

Because clearly this was not... not playable by any means during the intro.

[plain violet]

It seem "The cure" is not in the game for now. :/

[crystal pond]

Sad

[plain violet]

Yeah.. there is mention of a " General Scorxia" in WoWhead but didn't find her runes in game too.

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/quest=65041/memories-of-scoroxia
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=183757/general-scorxia

Maybe another patch will make "The Cure" appear, because I don't remember seeing the others two items during my first dracthyr intro;

("What Aspects fear" and "The Vault", that are now available in the beta)

[cerulean lava]

Can't wait to play this new Expansion 😍 👍

[tropic trail]

when will be the pre patch?

[dense plover]

we dont know

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-know-this-dr-wenowdis-kate-mckinnon-saturday-night-live-we-dont-know-gif-19653613

[tropic trail]

rip

[silver copper]

May be the 25th (Specially since tomorrow's a maintenance patch like it usually does before big patches) May be the 1st but any later would be weird

They usually dont go smaller then 4 weeks on a prepatch

[dense plover]

they already said this would be a small one

[silver copper]

When did they say that?

[dense plover]

when they first talked about prepatch

[silver copper]

That but you understand that could have changed, right?

[dense plover]

it could have

but the plan was 2 weeks of event

so the leaked date could be shifted if they feel it isnt ready

they only NEED 2 weeks for everything to still work

this is from an interview with Ion in April

[silver copper]

Right but again like said, it could very easily change. Specially with people's slow down for season 4, development and so on

[dense plover]

i mean - theres no chance theyre going to move it forward

[silver copper]

Remember this was before they desolved an entire company for developing

[dense plover]

like if you could have a negative chance of something happening, we would be in that negative chance

[uncut lintel]

i feel like this is very rushed

[dense plover]

^

its not ready right now

they literally shut down testing because it didnt work

[uncut lintel]

idk why they cant delay xpac

[dense plover]

they can

they just cant delay past this year

[uncut lintel]

fuck thats kinda hard

cuz only like what, 3? 2? months left

[dense plover]

they likely have a fallback date for the raids being next year if they cant get it ready

theres about 5 weeks until expac launch now

[silver copper]

Yeah it cant be delayed passed this year now or else they HAVE to issue refunds

[uncut lintel]

idk i just dont want it coming out worse than shadowlands :T

[dense plover]

have to offer them

not issue them

[silver copper]

Right

[dense plover]

and they dont have to offer them if you already got some of the stuff

like a mount or gametime

theoretically they need to offer the difference in that scenario

but if they delay the release until mid december and then put raid early january

[uncut lintel]

rip ppl who bought epic edition

[dense plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense plover]

thats sorta the tradeoff

but idk why you would refund a preorder for an expac thats still releasing

not the same as WC3R since it didnt offer what was advertised

thats false advertising and requires the same offer of refunds

if they delay the release, its not like the actual expac will change

but who knows, ptr/beta could be 5 builds behind

[silver copper]

Regardless, its been HEAVILY advertised by now for the 28, heavily.

[uncut lintel]

shouldnt the raid not be in december anyway i see alot of ppl complaining bcuz apparently christmas is very important

[silver copper]

Its more then likely still coming out

[dense plover]

maybe we get new builds tomorrow that fix a crap load of bugs

[dense plover]

it was something they said they would avoid

[uncut lintel]

[dense plover]

but the raid dates, since they arent delaying mythic, should avoid a majority of the problems

[uncut lintel]

blizzard avoids feedback thats for sure

ig

[dense plover]

all 3 group difficulties go live on the 12th

which gives 12 days before christmas

[uncut lintel]

wheres LFR D:

[dense plover]

at most they want WFR to last 11 days

so it fits in that window

1 week before christmas

[uncut lintel]

das dumb

[dense plover]

and then none until after new years

[uncut lintel]

why not release LFR

wiith restof em

[dense plover]

because they want people watching the WFR

and they dont want to deal with trying to tune LFR when they need to tune mythic to make sure it ends before christmas

[uncut lintel]

whats WFR?

[dense plover]

world first race

[uncut lintel]

bruh

no one fuckin watches that

[dense plover]

uh

its the most watched wow livestream event

by a lot

[uncut lintel]

wow

[dense plover]

averages 70k viewers

[uncut lintel]

and yet ive never seen, heard, anyone talk abt it

[dense plover]

per stream

i watch when they push a new boss and when they are on the last boss and getting close

[uncut lintel]

they raid in mythic or?

[dense plover]

its cool to see them quickly design new strats around previously unknown mechanics

yes

RtWF/WFR is mythic

[uncut lintel]

[dense plover]

its usually like 4-6 guilds

[uncut lintel]

sorry rain foccin made power go out

mid convo

[dense plover]

its fine

[rare hemlock]

That's not saying much. SEO trend had been abysmal for WoW events & announcements lately

[rare hemlock]

A lot of top raiders quit during 8.x-9.x. Participation is at all time lows. Many don't want to dedicate the time required.

[dense plover]

i think youll be surprised once DF launches

new expac hype is strong

[rare hemlock]

Yeah WoW does well with expac launches. It'll be interesting to see if it has legs.

[uncut lintel]

true

i enjoyed SL pre patch/launch more than rest of xpac 💀

[rare hemlock]

Yeah launch was fun. Everyone I know quit during Season 1 and haven't logged back in for a year+. I think New World has a big content drop tomorrow but only 17% of players hit lv60 😂

[uncut lintel]

[deep pawn]

beta down for anyone else?

[cosmic beacon]

servers were restarted

so no more m+

[uncut lintel]

blame arch

[uncut vault]

that's kind of a frustrating reason lol

they should want people to watch it because it's good

not because they're hamstrung out of content they want to do lol

[silent urchin]

That's pretty much the standard LFR schedule, it's always been wing 1 is a week after the normal/heroic release, then every 2 weeks from there

[uncut vault]

Well yes, but its a bad schedule 😛

It always has been, especially since they started delaying it longer

exacerbated even more by them increasingly doing post-raid story content

[silent urchin]

Yeah, it always feels like unnecessary amounts of delay

[rare hemlock]

Not a fan of the M+ gearing changes. Can't tell if they're trying to add value to Raid gear or the Professions or both.

[uncut lintel]

they are tryingto force people to raid because they dont wanna work on any other content

[rare hemlock]

You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat

[worn crown]

I'm vegetarian 😉

[dense plover]

i like how theyre iterating on M+ in beta

[rare hemlock]

the modifiers are cool the ilvl reduction not so much

[merry tusk]

now they just need to stop treating 5 mans like an esport 😄

[uncut lintel]

pudding is nasty

[calm sundial]

Are you a skinner, herbalist, miner, or fisher that has the beta? Message me with what items you find and in which area + zone! WoWHead is currently missing all this information! e.g. iron ore, dragonscale basecamp, waking shores

[glass flicker]

Hey @dense plover ?

Ian Bates said the map animation and model was remade on the beta. Can you do a /read and zoom into first person real quick?

[dense plover]

It’s just a newer map

There’s an image on the subreddit from a while ago

It’s pretty minor

[glass flicker]

I was only curious because Ian said the map is upside down and lacks the Dragon Isles.

[uncut vault]

It looked like this in older alpha builds

[paper pike]

Quick question: there are supposed to be 4 different Dragontypes we can choose from for Dragonriding, correct? What is the Winding Slitherdrake then we can choose on wowhead Dressing room? Datamined leftover or maybe a secret Dragon we can somehow unlock in DF?

[uncut vault]

Probably being saved for patch content

a few of the options arent available in 10.0, like the white skin tones

[paper pike]

Aight ty

[glass flicker]

Nice. Thanks Porter.

[ancient jasper]

Hmm

Looks like that Map is flipped upside down

Compared to the M map in-game

Because it has Teldrassil and Azuremyst Isles at the bottom of the map along with Quel'Danas

[sleek cloud]

Yo

Can someone tell me

IS ZEALOTS PARAGON 0.5 or 1 SECOND OMFG

wowhead says 1 second

But the beta and ptr says 0.5sec

Unless they haven’t added it to the ptr and beta yet

This is fucked up

Zealot sucks with just 0.5 sec

Nvm the beta is also 1 sec but just not ptr

Someone explain to me the logic

[upper pasture]

testing

[cosmic beacon]

Ptr isn’t really the servers where everything is tested or kept up to date like beta

[dense plover]

^^^^

They test events and such on ptr

[silent urchin]

Comments in the article about the evoker "delay" are gonna be fun

I feel like blizz should have clarified that months ago

[upper pasture]

Didn’t we already know the evokers come during prepatch but not at launch of prepatch

[silent urchin]

sort of

blizz has been pretty vague

they've said things that imply it's different things

but never actually said it

[upper pasture]

I mean yeah

[silent urchin]

and I don't think many people were aware

[upper pasture]

Didn’t they also say exp buff is live until evoker but they haven’t said prepatch kills the exp buff? So that leads one to believe prepatch doesn’t equal evoker at least not right away

[silent urchin]

That's one of the vague implications of them being different things

[upper pasture]

It just feels like people are going to get upset over their ignorance

[silent urchin]

although I don't really understand why it's not til the expansion release, you hit 60 pretty early on in the evoker starting area, I think I finished it at about 61.3

hitting 60 a bit faster isn't going to screw with it

[upper pasture]

I mean this could have been much easier if blizzard plain out said “hey two part prepatch, pt1 this pt2 evoker”

Or just have it so the evoker starting zone doesn’t apply the buff like starter island

[silent urchin]

Yes

I know they really don't like confirming dates before they're actually certain about them, probably a chance pre-patch gets pushed to the 2nd november instead of the 25th which is why it's not announced yet

but the two parts thing feels like it could have been mentioned ages ago

[upper pasture]

Yeah, they could have been wary just incase they had to combine the two into one if they have to push prepatch back a bit

[silent urchin]

I think people would be ok with that, though

[opaque pewter]

It's a good idea to not commit to anything. The approach from what I can see is not bad

[silent urchin]

It's important to not let people think you've commited to something that you haven't, though

[upper pasture]

Eh, people would see it as a “rushed expansion” if they had announced one thing then changed it. Then again people are going to think that regardless

[silent urchin]

Honestly beta has felt a lot more complete from the start than it has every other one I've been in

I do fully expect tons of balance hotfixes and probably quest spawn issues and so on in the first couple weeks anyway, but that's pretty much a constant since at least 5 or so expansions ago

[opaque pewter]

Should be expected as a service game with importance in that aspect lol

[tall crescent]

Where's them damn harbinger style cinematics?

Shouldn't they have started dropping by now

[silent urchin]

I assume they'll be during prepatch, it seemed like there's going to be a few characters show up at different times

Ah there it is

two phases

second on nov 15th

dracthyr in phase 2

[upper pasture]

Oh yeah

[silent urchin]

as well as uldaman and the rest of the storm stuff

[upper pasture]

My friends will be back home from visiting me by then lol

[plain violet]

People are way too eager to insult Blizzard, I feel bad for them. It was a bit vague, but clear enough to not assume we would get them at the start of the prepatch.

[silent urchin]

For sure, but most people get things through some sort of content creator and rarely read the actual blizz post. There are some popular misquotes that are years old and still used to malign blizz

[glad niche]

That's on them for not checking sources

[upper pasture]

Honestly I feel bad for anyone in any medium in this day and age lol

[glad niche]

I'm grumbly cause I want Dracthyr sooner rather then later. But I'll take the wave set up thing cause from fiddling with ptr, I know I'm gonna need time to familiarize myself with the rest of the changes

[plain violet]

Agree, players will need time for the talent system, HUD...

[glad niche]

I main feral druid atm. So evokers gameplay will be VERY different from my normal playstyle too.

I can agree to figuring out the new trees and UI separate from the class

[plain violet]

Yes, I know I will need much time.. because I play druid too, hunter, and then evoker with that.

[glad niche]

I honestly didn't like the hotbars when I fiddled with them on ptr. On live, the lil stone fellers fit around the entire expanded bar. Which is what... A hot bar and a half of slots? I'd have to look more but from when I fiddled with them. There's no expanded bar option on ptr. I have to either remove the stoney lads to place a second bar beside 1. Or flapjack stack the bars so the stoney lads don't overlap something.

[uncut lintel]

the word flapjack has a bad meaning right now -walks out-

[uncut lintel]

also hi feral druid main me 2

[glad niche]

? Like .. pancakes??

[uncut lintel]

no but i am not saying cuz id be spoilering a show

[glad niche]

I thought I was being Twitter policed or something dumb.

[uncut lintel]

no WTF

[glad niche]

I never know man. I play a lot of genshin and am in the official discord server. The things I hear about.

[uncut lintel]

💀

[uncut lintel]

i would still use a addon personally

for UI

[glad niche]

I likely will. I've refrained from looking for one yet though cause assumably most aren't updated for the DF setup

[uncut lintel]

yee

[glad niche]

I like all the extra hotbars. Lots of options . I don't like that I can't extend the bottom three bars the way the current bottom 2 bars extend. Cause I like the bookends.

[uncut lintel]

yea idk why simple stuff like that isnt a thing blizzarf

[glad niche]

I kinda get why but also don't.

Those two half bars on the extended version, make up hotbar 3.

But if it was some logistic with keybind interface, couldn't we just eat the new floating third hotbar to make the extended bar.

Then use any of the other bars to stack on top of the extended bar. Cause there's an option in the new ones to shorten the bars via feeding slots to the void.

But. I'm gonna bet a UI addon will come into creation that does exactly this.

It seems like such an oversight to just kill off the extended bar option

[silent urchin]

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/blog_thumbnail/h0/H0M5HMRQH5UI1661980811085.jpg is this HUD layout good, should I put my minimap in the center of the screen

[upper pasture]

Hey who are we to tell people how to play

[silent urchin]

Well this one is blizz endorsed from the patch notes!

[upper pasture]

“It’s only there while I figure the rest out okay” -someone somewhere..prolly

[uncut lintel]

put ur bars around the minimap on the bottom

[cerulean lava]

Mage is strong in the beta atm?

[cosmic beacon]

Arcane is blasting

[ionic terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211877643488854016/1032033116635791441/freakout.png

i stole this

[errant prairie]

[silent urchin]

Oooh

[tropic trail]

we're only getting 4 new dungeons in season 1?

must be a really really really bad joke

[errant prairie]

i do hope theyt release a new ptr build this week with a fix for the professions

@tropic trail 8, 4 new ones 4 old ones

[tropic trail]

so 4 new ones

and 4 recycled dungeons no one wants to play

I'm so glad we have lower and upper kara wow it's great

[deep pawn]

I'm excited for the legacy dungeons

[errant prairie]

Once again Blizz drops the ball by not giving WoD's UBRS

as a M+

[deep pawn]

it's an option eventually

[upper pasture]

The new M+ system will be great for dungeon rotation.

[errant prairie]

Part of me wonders if they ever plan to remake old vanilla dungeons. Kind of wanna see a mordern BRD

[uncut vault]

they future-proofed all of WoD and MoP's dungeons (tuning aside) to be a part of the M+ pool in one of the earlier beta builds

so rest assured there will def be variety

[deep pawn]

Valdrakken back on the list

[errant prairie]

so maybe zone music this week?

[uncut vault]

I sure hope so

[tawdry plover]

Sorry if this is a common question, when will the servers be up for beta?

First time participating in a beta so I'm not sure how this works

[errant prairie]

As soon as the new build is pushed and its ready for testing

As for exact time, no one knows.

If there's another step then i dont know it

[uncut vault]

they just put out the vendor build, so probably a little while before it's pushed to the beta proper

[tawdry plover]

ah gotcha

thanks!

[tropic trail]

how is it a good thing that we get recycled crap in season one

you could MAYBE make an argument that it would be good to add in in season 4 when people are tired of the new dungeons

but definitely not in season 1 since it completely ruins the "fresh" expansion feeling by forcing you to do recycled dungeons

and actually vaulting new, exciting ones

[uncut vault]

Because the game is more than just the current 2 years of content, and Blizzard embracing that content should last longer than 2 years is a good thing haha

theyve laid out their reasoning pretty clearly, they want to add variety to all of the seasons, not just the final one like Shadowlands did

and it allows players to enter a new season without feeling like they're inherently behind because all of the strategies were figured out months ago

[tawdry plover]

To me, having the first half of the new dungeons in 2 separate seasons also means 2 seasons with new content

maybe thats a small brain take though idk

[uncut vault]

That's exactly their intent, it means that there's something actually new to explore and learn in each season, rather than the exact same thing + a single new affix

and it makes gear in a given season more diverse, because you aren't just regrinding for the exact same items as last season at higher ilvl

[errant prairie]

grinding blood-scale tank trinket for 3 seasons in a row

zzzzzzzz

[ember blaze]

speak for yourself.

[tropic trail]

ok so do it in season 2 not season 1

[tropic trail]

vast majority of people does NOT want this bullshit in season 1 and that's a fact

[uncut vault]

Ah, the good ol' "I have a loud opinion, therefore it must be the majority" argument 😛

[tropic trail]

lol

not even close

You 2 or 3 people area literally the first who do not hate the recycled dungeons in season 1

[ember blaze]

season 4 was well received and they were all 'recycled." For a lot of people, all those dungeons are new

[tropic trail]

if you think the recycled dungeons are fun to play then you probably didn't go higher than +15 this season

yes because it's season 4 , people were tired of doing the same dungeons all expansion

[ember blaze]

im 2.7k io, try again.

[tropic trail]

it's fine in season 4 not one

[ember blaze]

and guess what DF is doing?

[tropic trail]

doing it from season 1

[ember blaze]

nobody wants to farm ruby for 2 years in a row.

[tropic trail]

instead of letting us play the new dungeons

they force us to play old dungeons instead

[ember blaze]

people get tired of running the same dungeons 2 years in a row.

[ember blaze]

you literally are.

you 4 now, 4 later

and a new set of old

[tropic trail]

I've been playing since 2012

mop isn't new to me

[ember blaze]

Guess what, you're not the only player of this game

[tropic trail]

the majority

of players doesn't want this shit

[ember blaze]

I never played anything before 7.3 legion

[tropic trail]

go ask in class discords

[ember blaze]

youre speaking for yourself here, keep that in mind

[tropic trail]

nope

[ember blaze]

stop trying to speak for the majority of players.

[tropic trail]

lol

if you think the majority wants this shit in season 1

you're delusional

[ember blaze]

🙄

[tropic trail]

also regardless of those dungeons being "new" to you

if you played this season

you would know that expansions like wod that didn't have m+

can't have good m+ dungeons

so mop dungeons will automatically be shit they weren't designed around m+

[ember blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[abstract ether]

man get out of here just block this guy he says his pronouns are hung and like ahorse

[tropic trail]

did my pronouns not being they/them trigger you?

[ember blaze]

yeah youre not worth anyone's time

[tropic trail]

tell me grimrail and iron docks are a good m+ experience with a straight face

[ember blaze]

feel free to uninstall cause clearly the old dungeons are gonna be bad for you.

[errant prairie]

Thankfully you can go to the WoW forums and leave your input on it and let Blizzard know

🙂

[ember blaze]

i would rather not. He's probably one of the people that insult the devs and make reading feedback miserable.

[tropic trail]

hmm what's this

same type of comments on literally every thread regarding m+ in DF

[errant prairie]

Good job! Now hopefully they will listen for 11.0!

[tropic trail]

oh no someone had a different opinion than me i must cry about it and hes definitely a bad person

[plain violet]

You're acting like a kid, Roberto.

[tropic trail]

Yeah let me just agree with the people who disagree to make you happy

[plain violet]

You can disagree without throwing a tantrum and provoking, keeping it polite and without dubious statements that feel like political flaming.

[tropic trail]

LOL

political flaming??

wait who was the person who said "you're not worth anyones time" etc? And I'm the one provoking yeah sure

For some reason the entire collective of soyboys within the wow community gathers on the wowhead discord lmao I'm out of here. If you get triggered over pronouns you need to face the wall ngl

[dense plover]

Anyone who uses the term “soyboy” is the actual problem

[uncut vault]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-of-value-was-lost-the-critic-fire-burn-it-with-fire-and-nothing-of-value-was-lost-gif-14671074

[plain violet]

Sadly, agreed.

These are too oblivious to their own hate-view of the world...

[ember blaze]

zero self awareness lol

[plain violet]

Yes... He has left already.

[ember blaze]

🙏 for some evoker changes this build

[errant prairie]

🙏

[ionic terrace]

build is out

[upper pasture]

What a great time to take a nap and miss that dumpster fire

[ionic terrace]

build number went down...?

[deep pawn]

apparently

[dense plover]

Seems like they pulled the newer one to go back to a newer but slightly older than the newest one

Maybe had problems?

Hope there is more music

[ionic terrace]

nope

at a first glance anyway

[dense plover]

Yeah doesn’t look like it

[ionic terrace]

😦

[dense plover]

Yo

Soar changes

2 min with talents, one minute once you fully explore the island

Great changes

Really great

And you can reach the same max speed again

[deep pawn]

I'm guessing not much to datamine

[ionic terrace]

servers up

[uncut vault]

they fixed dracthyr roars haha

Okay well uh, dont open the map lol

instacrash

[errant prairie]

👀

[mossy meteor]

i got a big fat lua error when applying profession knowledge

[ionic terrace]

if you press ok it dosen't crash

[uncut vault]

femme ones sound better, at least lol

[mossy meteor]

work orders aren't in

..yet

[dense plover]

new global strings

TRANSMOG_DRACTHYR_APPEARANCE_INVISIBLE This appearance isn't visible in Dracthyr form

PROFESSIONS_OUTPUT_INSPIRED_CREATION Inspired!

WORLD_MAP_ACTIVITY_TRACKER_LIST_INTRO Track available Major Faction activities on the map by selecting them from the list.

[pulsar minnow]

thank goodness

[dense plover]

yeah

evoker finally getting defensive buffs

deep breath removes roots now

living flame healing increased to 198% from 168%

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

WHAT

Tempered Scales Your dragon scales increase your armor by 75%.

just a huge new passive

nbd

obsidian scales buffed by 10% and changed to 1.5 min from 2.5

and the talent to decrease the cooldown now gives it a 2nd charge instead

great changes

OMG

emerald blossom instant heal talent literally doubled

[uncut vault]

Im glad they saw how weak they were lol

was gonna be a shitty class launch as it was last build

[dense plover]

this should be PLENTY

their damage is good

it was just their defense

especially once you hit 70

"Additional class tuning will be hotfixed throughout the week for raid testing on Friday."

"Developer note: Balance Druids will see that several other spells have been reduced in power on the beta. We’re still working on these changes, so expect a few to be reverted over the course of the week. Thank you for your patience!"

^^^finally

[uncut vault]

Definitely a good change, though the numbers need some ironing out maybe?

Currently rank 1 does just a little bit more than the other 3, not sure if that's intentional

[ember blaze]

i assume they want it to be like fire breath

damage is the same at all ranks

[dense plover]

^

oh - turns out artifact illusions was a bug

kinda figured

[upper pasture]

no more weapon..rip

[uncut vault]

they added some tiny background animations to the talent trees, thats nice

[candid ruin]

looks like they updated controller icons

[glad niche]

\o/

[dense plover]

mouseover can track how many turn in rep items you have

i really like this change

cool cool

my level 70 character had their drakes wiped

fun

they moved a bunch of rep stuff around

a lot of the endgame stuff got pushed forward

dont know how im supposed to get my dragons back

fixed it by making a character on valdrakken

its because i copied account data like a dummy

[dense plover]

or not

fuck

100% my fault

looks like a lot of bugs were fixed too

no more invisible djaradin

oh theyve fixed the dragon npcs landing @uncut vault

i imagine this is a thing you also noticed

where they would clip halfway into the ground when landing or taking off

rare npcs have an icon next to their name in world now

[glass flicker]

Uh hey Peach?

What's that distinct minimap icon that resembles the garrison/order hall/covenant sanctum?

[dense plover]

the rep button?

this?

@glass flicker

[glass flicker]

Interesting. So it's not a command table, thank Lord Sargeras.

[dense plover]

dragon npcs have talking animations now too

so glad

[glass flicker]

Nice.

[dense plover]

oh yeah weve known that for a while

its just a fancy way to track renown and to fill in your rider talent tree

[glass flicker]

I like that.

[dense plover]

the only thing i dislike is the rep not being account wide, only specific rewards

[glass flicker]

Eugh. I guess that's intended so you can't farm all the way to exalted with alts.

[dense plover]

yeah

it makes sense

[uncut vault]

Encrypted player customization?

[dense plover]

could be the eyes

or it could be a twitch drop

or might be a dragon customization

some of those are in the player area

new skinning resource

so not JUST curious hide

pretty sure these are new

this is new

after picking which black dragon

new circle of blood is fixed

[uncut vault]

I thought that at first, but those are specifically rewarded from learning it via an item, no?

not upon questline completion

[dense plover]

doesnt mean they cant do it

especially for like - full forms

IE raszageth appearance

[ember blaze]

is that talent tree artwork available somewhere to download? 🤔

[ancient jasper]

Hm.. Bags seem to be broken

[uncut vault]

which one in particular?

[ember blaze]

preservation evoker

i looked on their press site, but sadly they didnt include any talent tree art

[uncut vault]

this is the art in the files

No full, unfiltered ones sadly

[deep pawn]

they still haven't fixed that central line