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also on wowhead: https://classic.wowhead.com/item=873/staff-of-jordan
I had no idea this can drop from normal mob LOL
Idk if i should sell it or keep it as well. theres only one in AH for 300G.
I'm guessing the price is only going to go up over time
Anyone down to play WoW classic together Iโm starting a new character and want someone to level with
this might be a silly question but if i role nightelf and dont want to level in there zone, can i just sail to easten kingdoms and level there or do i need to stay for any reason?
@honest rose You can level anywhere. The biggest thing affected by you levelling outside of NE starting area is not getting rep for your own race.
It's very common for NEs to level in human starting area.
in CornShire
What does this actually mean? That the mobs are getting killed more than others or that the particular item drops more from that 1 mob?
I thought it was the number of the player population that has one (for that class if it's class specific)
oh, popularity
not population
so https://classic.wowhead.com/soul-bags you can see that Felcloth bag is pretty popular (common?)
anyone on?
OH MAN soul bags I had forgotten about those
hadn't forgotten about ammo pouches though
As a Mage
what is the difference between the arcane talents
- Arcane Focus
- Arcane Subtlety
First row, both talents
sub for lower arcane threat + bonus dmg true lowering ressistance from all your spells
focus only for arcane spells and highet chance for yours spells rly hit target
there is particular ressist and full ressists in game ..
No item restore for classic is there
There is
U R lucky then.. Usualy whats done cannot be undone in classic
XD yep classic :p
Is wowhead ever gonna fix their misinformed drop rates on the site?
@rigid basin we don't get drop rates from Blizzard thus they can't be 100% correct. Drop rates are formed by Wowhead Client users
and these users aren't entire population of WoW players, sadly
does anyone know what addon this is?
i wanna disable it
but i cant find where its from
i tink its questie
but i cant find any options
for it
@rigid basin Well. Use the client and help them.
you just start it every know and then and it uploads data as you quit wow, or you can manually do it.. No biggie
not to mention wowhead needs an absurd amount of data to get it as correct as possible
Did get 2 epix in burning steppes, and i uploaded data.. But the mobs i killed doesnt say it drops Krol blade :/
and that slow 1h mace
world drop
@livid lintel type /questie and it'll pull up the configs... you can disable that obnoxious new tracker it added from there
ty
You have to take reddit with a grain of salt
If I dont plan to PvP much, should I just go gnomish engineering? Im not seeing anything that I need from goblin other than PvP items... whereas gnomish I can get death ray and bunch of other cool things... plus tanaris TP is better than everlook
what's the best way to get through that bar in blackrock depths safely?
looking online it all seems convoluted af
I just need that spectral chalice quest to smelt dark iron done
Any clue why my classic client wont start all of a sudden ๐ฎ Not been on it for a week or so
it says running when i click, then it goes
wtf is this
delay lol
delete cache and WTF folder in the classic client
might be some graphics setting that are messed up after an update
Update video card driver
ye, might aswell clear the cache
Got my Dragonscale LWing!
is wowhead website down??
same for me
is it up now?
yes
classic wow or archeage unchained?
some of these guild advertising is super funny
@shrewd steeple such as?
Altaholics anonymous ) is a pve guild that does battlegrounds 24/7. We are a Spanish guild looking for sweetish members who speak chinese with a russian accent. Ventrilo is a must! No guild tabbard, as it doesnt match my hairstyle
lol i saw it in general chat
im sure i spelled that wrong
That's a popular guild name
Lmao
Altaholics in classic oof
what realm
Bigglesworth
Sassy is a good name
i already have sassywoman on my main retail toon
Are holidays in classic wow?
I don't think so.
I cri
The Darkmoon Faire is supposed to come in like with ZG. There "might" be something at Wintersveil if anything.
Wintersveil, darkmoon, lunar (not sure), midsummer are in game.. But some in later phases
Hi
Wow classic is a weird game
My Gmail and blizzard account was hacked tonight. And Iโm just told to change password and/or submit a ticket. But I canโt do that because it says my blizzard account doesnโt exist. So they must have changed the e-mail on the account. What can I do?
make a new account and submit a ticket for the other account
they have all history and can track what happend
juat make sure both account were under the same name
I managed to get my account back. But some dudes in Hong Kong have of course emptied my bank and everything. Items worth at least 500g gone. Fml!
For some weird reason they didnt sell my best gear that was on the character, and instead of just throwing away Q-items and stupid things like chicken etc they put it in the bank ๐ So its mainly just a gold-issue.
@bold ravine I'd suggest to put 2FA on both your Gmail and Blizz account. It's pretty easy these days and it saves so much hassle from lowering your risk.
Iโve downloaded authenticator today ๐๐ป
blizz can recover most of what you lost... just make another ticket if needed
@raw pecan Darkmoon comes out with BWL not ZG
any one know the addon's name for the health bar with the debuff icon?
Where the fuck is the fishing veganza @blizzard
anyone have login problems on EU? error: wow51900102
Getting dc'd after Logging in to game server, what causes that? i cleared cache etc.
no idea, but thats the same problem that im having. So im not the only one atleast
agent.exe messing about, suprising
feels like its on blizz side tho
couldnt find anything on their Twitter about any trouble
Can't login on server
ye
I just saw a tweet about hallows end in classic and apparently they deleted before I could click the notification
A wowhead tweet
Ah it seems to be back up
Is there quests anywhere? halloween event, not on atm.
Not even wowhead covered it ๐ฆ Not even for retail, usually does that?
on every event
eh, mmo c i mean.
How many times can u reset the RAIDS/Dungeons while looking for Jed Runewatcher?
5 times/hour i think
Oke, thanks
No, it can be picked up by anyone.
It can only be used by warriors and pallys
A notable solo DM farm is rogue or druid stealth book runs
I m facing a problem with the wowhead classic attumeent tracker :/
I logged in, I opened the Attunement Tracer and it does not saying anything...
just "Your Characters
Use the Wowhead Client to view your own characters in this tool!"
Ahhh all my auctions sold ๐
Thats against tos buddy
<@&299347348847329281>?
๐
@gleaming wave whats aganst the tos ?
Anyone on Alliance Faerlina need leather/mail made? I hit 300 LW w/Dragonscale specialization & Black Dragonscale Leggings/Breastplate/Shoulder recipes.
increases your healing
More you have, the better your heals get.. And you can downrank ๐
Well, the name itself explains it ๐
no but i got issues with wowhead, it leaks memory/reserve memory hugely
when i closed wowhead tab, i freed 2gb of memory at least
i'm running manjaro
Where should I look for tips for someone who is way out of practice lol
youtube
what's the best pvp horde server for Classic?
Faerlina so you can kill streamers
hi. maybe some1 know this question
if i have tailoring 300 i can craft this
but if now i drop the tailoring. can i still use it?
some help pls? ๐
Is it a boe?
You can equip it and drop tailoring
I few like the maintenance was a clever ploy to get more people in the discord ๐
first time here?
Anyone good with Making Macros????
Is there a way to download newer models for wow classic? It worked on private servers.
please dont kill me, i love classic but i hate the graphics
can't discuss stuff against ToS
Im not sure what think about that fix (cannot separate mobs from pack) its OG vanilla stuff or nah? Im not sure, i was long time..
sup guys
Aw
I could make a tenuous jojo reference but no
not done yet
16%
will bis lists be updated with diremaul?
isnt the list updated already? For each phase
seen DM loot since i first watched it a while ago
It has to be updated by now
Elemental wasnt
Any guilds on Herod running Onyxia today? 60 Warrior Horde Tank looking to join an Onyxia pug raid between 4:00PM-6:00PM (EST/Server) as the starting time, please PM me if so!
3. Advertising is not permitted unless you have obtained administrator approval to post. To do this, please contact feedback@wowhead.com or @ Sas148 โข This includes, but is not limited to: Discord Servers, marketing or academic surveys, websites, personal content promotion (Youtube, Twitch.TV, Mixer) or otherwise similar material.
@crystal relic
I wonder how muchis the real drop rate of this card. I have farmed 3hrs and got nothing. ๐
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=9327/security-delta-data-access-card
hi
Hola
Hello should i role a shadow or dicipline priest i don know witch
whatever you want
does anyone know if this is better than pirates if uncontested? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1B9TAep4fA&t=66s
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
I just bought a black and blue beta fish. Need name ideas
Youโre asking in this chat why?
@glad elm Rihanna.
Because WoW has a very creative community
Its male @sly jacinth
Also Chris Brown isnt allowed in my house
Sorry. It was a poor joke, @glad elm
I caught on lol
bruh you already self-advertised a few days ago
<@&299347348847329281> nudge nudge dis ain't rite.
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does wowhead have a public API for getting various items by name or id?
specifically for the classic version?
I find it very hard that there are zero prebis items in diremaul for shaman, literally the only thing in there from dm is arcanums
โญ Open for WoW Classic Services โญ
Feels good to make something huge for myself
Some dude on twitch is saying that he trades 1 classig gold to 3k bfa gold
is it true ? and isnt it against tos ?
gold for gold... hmm, not sure that's against any stated rules. Selling it is against the ToS, yes, but trading gold for gold in-game? I don't believe so.
hmm
isnt is a bit high ratio though ?
The guy is claiming to buy a token with 90 gold or so
I mean I never played buy is 90g that much ? ๐
I really don't know, the ratio can be as high as anyone's willing to pay I guess.
Different economies. One would certainly have substantially more gold in BFA than Classic. I've got half a million on BFA or so and only 400 or so on Classic.
Okay thanks
Ya know stufff aint right when the onslaught guild on skeram are just banning people from world chat lol
can't seem to find the right place so i will just ask here: Are there any plans on making the wowhead tool available for mac users? i am also willing to beta test if it helps :/
Mac inst for games.
Tbh @shadow shell you can farm well in classic with proper class, just gotta know the value of stuff and the time some things sells for , like we used to sell maraud in rings
Now tribute
or solo dm E
Just find the best farming for your class and go for it, and also donโt burnout this ainโt Diablo
thanks mate
Either one will do well to level efficiently solo or with others (just remember to turn off taunts in dungeons). More a matter of taste. Hunter pets are a bit more varied; it can be fun to track down a rare with an added ability or so. Both get smacked around on storage.
why limit yourself to one alt? ๐
^^ good point, Mishikal
is the broken armor search something known/being worked on? https://classic.wowhead.com/armor
What class is harder to play in pve Hunter / Warlock ?
depends on what you mean by that. both are very easy to pick up and are somewhat difficult to master/play well
havent touched classic but I remember from back in the day having to use one bag slot for bullets or arrows for hunters and hunter pet happiness upkeep being a pain. Didn't play warlock enough back then but i believe soul shards took up multiple bag slots and dissapeared on logout. So in terms of general upkeep...maybe hunter
@keen oasis soul shards do not disappear on logout
Is the server down for everyone ?
i just got a message as well. i logged in earlier but dc after 30sec or so
!wowheadsetup classic
Channel will use English tooltips from Classic.
did someone say [thunderfury]
good question
[squirrel]
i think sulfuras broke b/c the screenshot broke. will fix the screenshot (and try to have it still reply if the screenshot broke)
[sulfuras]
[fish]
It was typing something and then it stopped
that just means it was searching. if it doesn't find anything, it stays quiet
Hmm alright
altho nice job w/the fishing link there, showing we can link to a skill even though skills don't have tooltips
yo
so I played a Warrior to lvl 50
I like the rotation
what other classes have nice rotations?
in classic i enjoyed frost mage personally
and combat rogues
though frost mage is mostly find ways to let you keep spamming frostbolt iirc ๐
[ragnaros]
[executus]
[Gamon]
Ha! Now im happy >:D
[mankrik]
on classic.wowhead, on every mob, i cannot see the loot table. it says loot (30) and then there's nothing there. starting last night. what did I do to do this? or is wowhead having problems?
Got a link to an example? [Gamon] shows me 104 drops properly.
[Rhok'delar]
[Gamemaster's Robe]
Death knight darkreaver doesn't have a loot table on his page
can confirm the issue
[Martin]
[Martin Thunder]
[warrior]
[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
Open for Services
Please bend for full service
anyone want to start an account with me( a noob)
[Secrete Fish]
Greetings.
im so frustrated yall
so i have a 4 year old son and im a stay at home mom and tomorrow im going to be 34 weeks pregnant and my toon on classic wow is level 37 and i wanna get to level 60 before i have my son. do yall think i can make it to level 60 ?
i think im almost halfway to level 37.
Maybe
Hard to say really
No you wont :p

<@&299347348847329281> Fortnite self promotion in classic room
its classic and you dont strike me as someone who plays 8hour a day
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unless you have friends for some boost you aint gettin no 60
๐
no just me D:
but i will have a newborn @low wedge
thats why u have a husband for
my husband plays wow too
๐
@shrewd steeple entirely possible. In terms of xp, 44 is the half way point. I have friends who are also in a situation like yours with a new born and a 6 year old daughter who plays after they are asleep with one ear open to see if they wake up.
Your levelling will be questing so it's easy to quickly stop and come back to it. In the later levels you may want to run dungeons which is where you will need 1-2 hours of undisturbed time which may be hard but the alternative is just grinding mobs.
Also what class are you? That will play a factor into it.
@clever fog dps night elf druid
druid is fine then
stay feral to maximise levelling experience
go hotw/ns spec if you're having problems with survivability or 32 points hotw spec if you having trouble with dps
you have shadowmeld so you'll be better stealthed to complete quests faster.
I'm a feral druid Tauren
Wow
check out icyveins as well
Guys can I please get a tiny bit of advice
I am a nelf feral druid and I am wondering which leatherworking style to go, which is the best one for cat form?
Elemental?
What are the choices
Dragonscale, Elemental or Tribal
Dragonscale are hunter based - Elemental are Shaman based - Tribal are mostly
Druid based
Druid and Rogue -
Cat form needs rogue gear
anyone on alliace wanna do a sm dunegon?
@shrewd steeple I suggest you join your server's discord and ask that if they have one set up
@clever fog is there a list of server disc?
no.
what's the addon that tells you where the item gets dropped from and the drop rate
ive seen it on streams
Atlas loot
Saw an update.... anything important?
mobinfo2 is a good one that counts not only quests but kills and loot from said baddie @maiden river
mobinfo2 classic specificaly ๐
ty @compact gust
hello everyone
What's up
we need a tank for Uldaman on realm ashkandi alliance
@shrewd steeple There's a "classic-group-alliance-us" channel, probably a better one for those requests ๐
So, since the wowhead giveaway for Blizzcon 2019 ended yesterday. When are they going to announce the winners? I cant read anything similiar to the giveway topic.
Next week, we will take multiple steps to prepare for the release of the PvP Honor system and World Bosses at 11:00 a.m. PST on Thursday, November 14. Hereโs an outline of those steps. Monday, November 11 โ Updates to Free Character Moves** At 11:00 a.m. PST on Monday, ...
I'm ready for streamer tears about faerlina again
what's the maximum range for group loot outside of instances? Can a player cross a zone to pick up an item from a kill by others?
Can anyone message me efficient gold farms for lvl 55 mage that aren't hopelessly overrun? It'd be greatly appreciated
So pvp starts the 14th then?
12th
They are releasing phase 2 on the 14th according to the articles, Thursday.
Right from the article above "PvP Honor system and World Bosses at 11:00 a.m. PST on Thursday, November 14"
Maybe phase 2 is Tuesday, but PvP is on Thursday.
Makes no sense.
Maybe they changed the date, but yeah, it doesn't make sense to have such an unclear date...
"Tuesday, November 12 โ All Realms to One Layer"
"Thursday, November 14 โ PVP Honor System and World Bosses"
It doesn't make sense to not do it on a Tuesday.
Doing Phase 2 on the 12th and then turning on PvP 2 days later gives Blizzard time to address any Phase 2 issues before having to address PvP/World Boss issues
Not putting out the update on a Tuesday makes no sense
@azure kite So it's official that PvP is not active until the 14th?
whats a good spot for mage aoe money making at lvl ~ 35
Here are the links to the Wowhead news stories regarding the time frames.
https://classic.wowhead.com/news=295960/classic-phase-2-arrives-november-12th
@lunar gulch ๐
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'Ello everyone!
llo
Hola
Nice, not been on my 60 priest for a while
First i see, invite from a goldseller....
:/
xD
Bigglesworth
does anyone know where i need to level in which zone i am a level 35 dwarf
Desolace, STV, do some SM farms good exp/gear.
get titan classic recommended zone... ๐
[Desolace]
[Windsor's Frenzy]
first day of honor system instant lag lol
I am a tauren druid player who has never played wow and I just got to level 14 I don't know where to look for a group but here I am I guess.
Not looking for a carry just another low player group or something
I avoided wow classic today
@maiden river type /join lookingforgroup
or ask people in general chat /1 if they wanna party up ๐ Thats how i met a few people ๐
/join lookingforgroup
ingame, not here
oop
๐
lol
@maiden river If I see another Horde lowbie in the same area Im questing, I'd shoot a whisper asking if they're doing any quests Im on and ask if they'd like to team up.
At what time is the daily reset for honor points gathering? Same time it released?
Does anyone know of anything that covers respawn times for mundane mobs? Iโm working on my first WoW guide/video & need times for things related to grinding in general.
Pretty sure its weekly, is it not?
Y'all got some of that role-play shit?
Is lvl 22 a good lvl to start hillsbrad?
first few quests, the level increases quickly*
Thank you for the mount gold Mr.Gorrilla
Anyone new to WoW who want to buy the game and start playing with me? I was thinking of recruit a friend reward, we get bonus exp and good rewards like free game times, etc. I will also personally gift u gametime if you buy the game and join me. Dm me if interested
Heya everyone, anyone play alliance on Firemaw? Level 28 Druid here looking for people around my level to play with.
BGs coming in 20 days
Any Druid masters here?
Can you eat and drink while shadowmelding?
Does the Night elf Shadowmelding stack with prowl and the talent that increases stealth ability to give you like super stealth mode?
Thanks ahead of time for your insights.
you can continue eating and drinking after using shadowmeld but it will break if you start doing it while shadowmelded
yes it does stack, itโs equal to about 1 level of the stealth talent
@lost hill
you should google โtesting out master of deception/ stealth/ rogue stealthโ or something like that, there was a detailed reddit post with scrnshots demonstrating the ranges at which you got revealed with each level of the talent and with the nelf racial and such
any wow classic gifters 
๐น
My most pressing question next. I'll have Druid main but I need to know about storage space.
My Question:
Can you start a guild by asking people to sign your charter but not stay in the guild? We did this in BC to get access to massive storage capabilities. Can I do this in classic WOW?
what is the prive of Shadowfang on classic?
@lost hill nah, guild vault is BC stuff..
@nimble sleet deppends on your server some sell it for ~100g but also can be a lot more
Btw aly in Elvin dont give me honour
even if i got HKs from them
Does some1 knows why klinfran the crazed hits me with 1.3 k +........ I want to mentiin that he does that even with scorpid sting on!
Any Horde players looking at starting (new or just tired of your original server) & maybe interested in a little challenge coming up when BGs come out. Atiesh is Alliance heavy & needs you to come show them the might of the Horde once BGs release. In the meantime World PvP is alive & well in Hillsbrad.
how much Honor will decrease when you got DSK?
@maiden river In my opinion, Classic is pretty great, and it really isn't that hard.
Its just that people mostly had bad computers, and bad internet back then.
Yea, I agree
carried baby have nothing to do LMAO
@rain plaza they also didn't know how to play the game yet. Now they have had 15 years of practice and there are way more resources out there for everyone to get a better understanding of what they need to do.
I'm happy that asmon is finally going to do retail again
after so many literal streams of him shitting on retail
and making his chat go wild
to where they literally make every joke possible about retail
I wonder who's going to take his place, as the most top streamer of classic.
in terms of viewers
sadly Staysafe ๐ i dont like him, same as Asmoncuck
Yeah back in Retail, he used to complain about how free loot was given out, and no work/effort was given out.
however when Classic started
that was a whole different thing.
he got everything ๐ like bindings :DDDDDDDD and half of raiding gear when watch YT on 55lvl alt lock for example
hypocrite
Faerlina won't be shitty for the average player, who isn't a streamer anymore.
HORRAY
there is a lot of other stream guis, but still, biggest cuck go away .. on some point io cant stop lauching .D
(ye, my eng is bad, i know it, but u understant my point)
I can understand disliking him, but you don't have to say something negative (like cuck) in every other message
sounds like half of his chat.
Its what people call you, to say that you're weak pretty much.
he IS arogant, so..
yeah, he's human.
Bare in mind, that its also apart of his online character.
He's a streamer playing world of warcraft, a game that does have a toxic fanbase, not all of the wow community is
but there's a medium percentage.
He could act like them, to appeal to them, I mean he used to ninjaloot, but I bet some people were entertained by it.
Hey guys. I was wondering why the quest chains "Princess Moira Bronzebeard", "In Dreams"," Linken's Adventure" and "Ras Frostwhisper" are in the Attunment Tracker on Wowhead. Does anyone know what you are getting attuned for there?
I'm thinking about quitting classic, have 5 level 60's but meh
The biggest problem with Classic is that the loot makes people really mad. Like even our guild has three MC groups weekly, and we still need to raid it even when BWL comes out, but people are losing their minds if they don't get the loot they want within few weeks.
U will run MC forever.. Thats beauty of classic, content is still relevant, even for "just" Thunderfurry.. Not like retail, where u can just abandon almost everything from previous patch
Imo
I don't really agree with that @bright root
sure people will run MC for bindings/eye of sulfuras, but literally nothing else come AQ40
but the great thing about Classic is that alts can't just skip straight to aq40/naxx, or even BWL, they'll need to progress their gear accordingly, and THAT is what retail WoW is really missing
the lack of catch-up mechanics is what makes this game great
even in TBC, I remember once we cleared BT we started doing alt runs of SSC/TK, we had almost the same group of alts & pugs that did that content every week, then moved on to Hyjal/BT and cleared all that, and we cleared 2/6 Sunwell as an alt/pug raid. Nowadays you just do the current tier and thats it
Hey guys. I was wondering why the quest chains "Princess Moira Bronzebeard", "In Dreams"," Linken's Adventure" and "Ras Frostwhisper" are in the Attunment Tracker on Wowhead. Does anyone know what you are getting attuned for there?
So people on the oceanic discord saying that WSG comes out on the 30th? can anyone confirm or deny? they seem to have seen a blue post
AV and WSG are opening on the 10th December
cool stuff .......
@scenic kettle hello good morning did you draw them pictures
Yes! @stray glacier
@rain plaza Faerlina will still be shitty,my dude. It's not a streamer thing.
?????
I'm on Faerlina. Even if Asmons takes a full break from Classic, it's still going to be shit. Horde aren't going to stop camping every FP in the world.
oh
Horde aren't going to magically stop ganking in every zone with a raid group
Alliance is still a minority on the server
On the topic of asmongold.
The guy has been toxic as a streamer for the past decade. And he wonders why his viewers are toxic? Totally not his own fault.
Also classic might be more fun for him if he didnt get carried through everything and handed everything. Imagine having to farm your own gold for that epic mount.
Nixxiom have a nice vid about that.. About how he enjoy classic so much as nobody without streaming that and keep his identity in secret on new char(s)
I can agree with the Asmongold comment. Heโs been pretty toxic since day one. I can handle watching videos of him in spurts but I canโt watch a full stream of him anymore. I have my preference of who I watch on a daily basis and the difference between them and Asmongold is night and day.
Hello Wowhead staff. Please help us and promote this issue. Blizzard is not reacting or responding since a week. On Firemaw-EU every evening we have huge chat delay. It starts at 19:00 server time with ~5 seconds delay. Then it quickly goes up to 10 minutes. The highest i measured this evening was 16 minutes. That means say/guild/general/worldchat/bossemotes/bossmods/threatmeters are all not working.
Its been like this since 1 week and blizzard did not even mention this.
If you could put up a news on the frontpage im sure blizzard would start reacting.
We cant ask a mage for a portal (15 minutes delay), water, food. We cant form groups for dungeons or anything because of this crap and it has been like this for 1 week.
Here is a forum post on the issue:
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/huge-chat-delay-on-firemaw/108124
Classic needs chat. We need to be able to interact. We need to talk, form groups, ask for summons, food, portals or help...
Been like it the past few days now, noticably today and yesterdayโฆ MAJOR chat lag around 6PM Server Time, we are talking like type something, see it in chat 20 minutes later. This is happening on my server Firemaw as it is high-populated but Iโm sure it has happened on ot...
if you would login right now into firemaw and type anything into the chat your message appears 10-15 minutes later.
and it has been like this since 1 week
warriors in orgrimmar are yelling "my taunt has been resisted by ragnaros". their mc raid finished, loot was distributed and they took a portal to orgrimmar. then their taunt-resist message appears 10 minutes later. its a disgusting joke here....
What's up?
Hey I'm on the edge of if I should buy the subscription for world of Warcraft, just need some opinions if I should
Hi, do you know addon that shows who has loot left in corpse? some idiot in raid dont know how to loot ancient cores....
As far as I know, no, clicking the core hound still the best option
hey sorry i got a question about the gear planner tool, when i select human lvl 60 warrior, it only adds 0,20% melee hit instead of 3%, am i missing something or why is this?
I'm having trouble getting in game I keep getting error
Pretty vague description there.
I'm trying uninstalling and reinstalling it to see if it does anything
It keeps coming up error BLZBNTBGS80000011
@gilded plaza https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/13875
I'm finally in to play after doing everything I could think of
these are all my addons for classic
I really like the way I have my UI set up currently
Beauty of classic engi https://youtu.be/rK-XGqAMqH4
Special thanks to my Patreon supporters! Icorian - Frostmane (EU Servers) Lightfang - Elune (US servers) Hรฉliejah - Elune (EU Servers) Uhidontknow - Outland ...
just made it to lv10 after just over 11hr of total game time
WUT thats insane ๐ ๐ ๐ u RPing a lot or what ๐
@stoic delta new player ?
@zenith flax new-ish, I played retail from MOP to Legion, then stopped playing, classic is my first wow in years
I spent a lot of time setting up addons, and chatting in my guild just learning the ropes
Got in and forgot how to fight lol I figured it out before taking to much damage because my character is still in the beginning
@stoic delta are you EU/US i wanna get into classic to but im not able to spend 5-6hours a day on the game
Is there anyone who would be willing to teach me mage rotations? I just started like a day ago and everything I've seen is for late game, meanwhile I'm getting pummeled trying to quest .-.
@drowsy wharf For pvp i think wotlk
yo
Wow those bots are fast I'm having trouble catching up and clicking on then to blind them lol
do you still get the 110 boost on retail if you hit level 60?
@tough briar donโt believe so
Why everybody just said "i need help, can i have question" instead "hi gyus, i need help with this this and this"
@bright root gay ???
English ?
Fixed after autocorect.. Now u can understand?
Where is everybody?
so, classic is already dead?, or just this discord channel?
just this channel it seems. Does anyone know where to see a list of classic wow guilds?
Depends on your server @austere bone
ive yet to jump on classic lol
hey all
when will this honor system be completed ???
when it is - we're not Blizzard people, we don't know the exact answer.
Looking for a list of guilds for US server Westfall
Squirrel - which addons do you use?
Server shut down?
What server should I start a classic character on
hi. is there a classic guild recruitment OCEANIC server?
Grammy. Did you play vanilla on the Bonechewer server?
@maiden river wait a few days
@graceful mortar alright ๐
what do i do with this item called certificate of thievery?
Hi everyone. New guy here, was just wondering if I could have someone run me through the basics of the game/pro tips for a newer player/ answer my dumb ass questions etc. I know I can watch a video but I'd like to gain a friend in my learning process lol
@haughty pivot hit me up with pm
Soo sad & truthfull https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=L0RUhV3TMho&feature=emb_logo
A video of a cat eating cabbage. Your move, google bots.
no one in the server is offline HOW?
When a server is big enough, the offline list gets hidden
Hi, I wanted to let the staff know that the esMX and esES clients have different names for many NPCs, profesions, items, etc. I know Wowhead uses the esES client to gather its data, but I was wondering if we could have a second tab for esMX, like mx.wowhead.com
What do u do if some1 owes u 100g from deathroll?
Hi! What price is edgemaster's handguards aprox ? Some1 is asking me 400g for it . Is it a fair price ?
What server should I join?
I'm looking for non-pvp.
So, of the 4 servers here, does it really matter which I pick?
Would recommend checking a couple of the census sites and then opting for the second most-popular. That way there is an active player base but any queue issues will be lessened.
looking to buy a wow classic acct. will also trade my 43 shaman for another character
@dawn tangle ToS! get out
@bright root your mom worked at Stonehenge as a maid.
@dawn tangle thats mean im ancient old being, so u have to obey me
@bright root don't edit your posts after I respond. It's disingenuous
@dawn tangle I'm sorry for you, if u see something what isnt there, like: (edited)
paid services for classic? lol
im 29 alliance on herod looking to level
any high end rogues have any input of combat daggers over seal of fate daggers with 9% hit and 30% unbuffed crit? Worth making the move yet or still not?
Why is leveling on classic so hard lol im level 22 and literally cant do q, if i pull one, come uno famillia
๐ welcome to classic
@maiden river imo better than infinite mana and 7 mobs on me in starting zone without any real deal
On retail ofc
hey guys, check out this video i made about classic wow ๐
WATCH UNTIL THE END (or just watch the end)
So, I played classic wow since the begining and I had a lot of fun... until world pvp.
This video includes the last attempt to quest/trying to reach BRD that I made.
Unfortunatly I didnt record the 15 death walks to BRD, but I thi...
If anyone from my guild journeyman see this send me a current invite plz Orionnebula-atiesh
Hello, how is Classic WoW from a new player (that hasn't played Vanilla WoW) perspective? Is it fun, etc? (please @ me with your reply, as this server is low on my server list lol)
does anyone know where i can get the recipe for alchemist stone in classic?
gadgetzan@wooden elk for philosopher's stone
alchemist stone trinket won't be around till tbc becomes available
Hey everybody! Really wanting to play classic but have been left without a play group, looking to roll a healer somewhere I think and was wondering what the best servers are? Looking for a very active PVP server thatโs close to been balanced in population. Willing to play either faction so any advice is welcome.
Hello wowhead classic, i have an urgent request / question
im playing wow classic on eu-firemaw horde side
it has come to my attention there are many players standing infront of AV-battlemasters casting the same spell/sequence at fixed intervalls. for example bloodrage every 60 seconds, or bloodrage every 90 seconds
these players also join AV battles and keep doing these cast-intervalls every XX seconds
to sum this up: they are honor botting while sleeping. they join the AVs and gain the 2000-3000 bonus honor from the marshalls/balinda and the win/lose
ive spottet 4 players so far, one of them is standing 82 on our server with 430.000 honor this week (which is bracket 12 on firemaw, poolsize is 7000)
you can spot these players yourself by joining firemaw horde side (EU) and walk to the 4 different AV battlemasters: undercity, orgrimmar, thunder bluff and the alterac valley cave
you will quickly spot players that run a castsequence right infront of the battlemasters + they join AV. they do this for hours without actually playing the gam
it seems like the classic honor system has been undermined by now. ive been grinding my honor solo and all night - only to realize ive been doubled or trippled by bots
does blizzard know about this? is there punishment happening?
will they reset the honor of these players or de-rank them. will account bans happen?
You, and anyone else witnessing this behavior, should report them; I couldn't say if Blizzard knows about this particular case or what punishments may/not happen, but typically botting does result in removal of ill gotten gains and suspensions/bans
i would make a forum post and ask in the blizzard forum
Feel free
unfortunately i cant post in their forums since im missing a level 10 char. ive told blizzard twice that its not working
they told me to install bfa......
which i cant do because no diskspace ^^
so im locked out of blizzard forums
i heard you guys are in contact with blizzard right?
I don't think there'd be a lot of point to making a thread in this case, the regular report function will suffice
this is an important issue that wowhead should post
its extremely unfair to everyone. either the rankers who play all day or the guys who have to spend all of their free time to rank. everyone gets fucked by these botters
and blizzard needs to react quick
unfortunately blizzard doesnt give a shit about classic players so someone has to up the stakes and i was hoping wowhead could do that
i mean.... i told blizzard 2 times allready that i cant post in their forum and all they have to say is level a character to 10 in retail. half of my guild cant post in blizzard forums because they dont give a shit about us classic players.
kind of apples and oranges there - one is a website issue, the other is a game issue; the two aren't handled by the same people, and someone being unable to post on forums is a much lower priority than people honor botting (also from the sound of it they did suggest a solution in installing BfA, you just haven't done it)
Regardless, while I appreciate your fervor, like the last issue you brought up demanding we cover, it's not really within our purview - Wowhead is for game and company related news, not inciting outrage or petitioning Blizzard to fix things faster.
While your issue certainly isn't unimportant, it has nothing to do with Wowhead; the fact that there are honor bots isn't new, it doesn't give readers any useful information, and (perhaps contrary to popular belief) it won't make Blizzard ban people any faster
mhh okay
i see
idk if they are even botting or violating tos
i know they cast spells every minute which could be by using a keyboard-macro software that comes with many keyboards
and they join bgs while sleeping
idk how
does it matter to blizzard "how" its done or is it simple: if they sleep and farm honor for 7 hours straight its not okay?
That kind of automation allowing them to do things without actually issuing the commands themselves would be considered botting yes, but the specifics aren't really important to you or I - Blizzard has internal tools with which to better determine that
Which is why I say again, it's not something good for Wowhead to cover (because we don't know the specifics, just the belief that they're using some kind of automation to gain an advantage), and that you should just report them to Blizzard directly using the normal in-game tool
Hi
can't log onto US Westfall sever
yup bloodsails down..
Anyone wanna help me run gnomeregan (horde)?
iirc should be for all, by means of "pay for delivery to get full access to mail contents"
this is how it should go when you open the mail and click to collect any item in C.O.D mail
(was meaning to move some gold over from alt on live anyways, so made my own example of how it (again) should work)
is it possible to die after a buff to your health expires? Not due to any attack that transpired after the buff dropped but solely due to the loss of the buffed health?
Does anyone here plays Wotlk?
@mellow frost nope it would reduce your health to 1
https://classic.wowhead.com/npc=3987/dal-bloodclaw Doesn't work. Says the site is down
This goes to #wowhead-feedback-support
Question, about gamepedia wiki. Are article edits there known to be scrutinised? I was going to edit the "mithril order quest chain" to say advised level range is 40+, as opposed to current stated 35+, because the chain is not accessible until 40.
I know that the info has been there for more than 10 years, and AFAIK was ported from wikia, but just feel it's misleading.
Is WOW like a free for all where everybody is fighting against everybody in a giant world map?
What's a good ally server to start playing on?
@maiden river https://www.wowhead.com/news=295075/classic-wow-realm-population-report-data-aggregated-through-community
Although current population is slightly different, this is a good starting point. Pick one that has a decent balance of Horde and Alliance and go from there. It is really subjective about 'good' or 'best' so try one or two and see if you find a guild or others you enjoy playing with.
anyone here
yes
how do u find discord bg premades?
Can my Xbox mic work for discord?
nvm totaly found out i just have to get a new one
anyone tryna play
hey guys does getting 60 on classic still reward 110 on retail?
I donโt think it ever did, tbh.
I think it was falsely reported by a fan site.
oh, ok then.
nice
sorry wrong chat
lol
where do i go to get my goblin mount i sear i've looked all over orgrimar ๐ฉ
where is the server population info for wow classic
bout to playy
Will there be hate if i played warlock human
FOR THE ALLIANCE
Is selling items slower in classic because when i sell an item it turns grey but does not sell instantly it take a bit
ur just lagging
Is wowhead collecting data for classic or is it all grandfathered over from Vanilla? https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/el9dbd/daily_questions_megathread_january_07_2020/fdglxaf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
@maiden river we do. You can install Wowhead Client to help us collect data.
Grandfathered data was used during Classic test and first/second week after Classic launch
Thanks @frigid fractal . Hopefully a few redditors get it too.
<@&299347348847329281> @ discord server promotion above (one and only message sent in this server by Stgeorge, as far as I can tell with the search option)
@safe dirge we have a specific channel for guild recruitments
alright sorry guys, let me find it ๐
got a question about https://classic.wowhead.com/guides/druid-healing-gear-bis-classic-wow who could answer?
Southshore and then run up.
Chillwind is half an option, but there is a group of Horde NPCs that block that route.
@mild bramble
hello, a question an Undead Warlock Destruction is good for leveling using talents like that? or who recommend me
Whats the best class to play in classic for a mix of PvP and PvE?
@lethal lava Priest Warlock or Mage.. All are good in Pvp and all do well in dungeons. Put they are 1 button rotation in raids tho..
Any good PvP talent setup for warlock anyone can lend me?
hey everybody anyone on?
i am
Hi
I am looking for someone to play with and recruit me. where can I find? also, im from South America, latam
@mild bramble check on bnet support: item restoration, might have sold it or removed it accidentally.
Can anyone answer this?
@hybrid cairn Yes.
Would be so cool is blizz released new expansions for classic
Hey to all the mages. Is this a good arcane power build?
Which is better for priests to heal for dungeons and raids...discipline, holy or shadow?
Disc/Shadow split monkaS
Used a quest item and died to the thing is summoned how do I get the item back to try again ?
no self promotion please @broken reef
part of the rules
aight <@&299347348847329281> twitch link above
thanks
new toons any1?
Is there someone who can explain some things in wow classic I am new to the game so yeah...
I am playing as night elf hunter on lvl 15 rn
guys, i am level 13 and play druid. i want to go dps feral but can i play for tank in dungeons
that i transform myself in bear
cat durid is 4 fite
Question: I have a pet scorpion with rank 1 scorpid poison. Can i train rank 2 or it is pre-set to what the pet is tamed with?
@gleaming raptor Head over to the classic druid disc and ask-away. Great resource for the druidish types.
A visual guide to hunter pets in World of Warcraft Classic.
Is there a classic rogue discord anyone can link me too?
@silver moat Is there one for Paladins?
Druid is the best... Paladin is okay - https://discord.gg/9v92tc
*The helpfulness and overall community, that is - others are cool for help but you normally get a bit more angst. Still worthwhile though!
Thank you
howdy new to WoW well not new but rejoining after years of not playing currently only playing classic any chance i can get some help?
hey wanna start to the classic im a new player to wow should i play it?
I don't see why not
Perhaps try another server - or see what happens once you get to the closest city, @languid ore
Same goes for classic
World Map for WoW Classic display only zone and everything else was transparent , saw it on youtube cant seams to remember the name or find the addon?
I just joined this disc cuz I have a code for guest pass and a hearthstone free pack code
DM if u want it idc bout them since I donโt play the games
bruh. <@&299347348847329281>
@crystal relic no self ad please. thank you
@frigid fractal sorry is there anywhere here i can post it, i ddint know apologies
didnt*
hey
frost damage anf fire damage are split i think
Is a nelf warrior good for a tank?
is there any warlock farming guide?
anyone taken feral dps for raids :)
what about mages
Hello, im not sure this is the correct forum for this question but ill give it a shot...
Flamelash is so dead, will blizzard do anything to correct this or am i forced to move to another server or will they fix it?:) Thanks
They could offer free transfers, but... with the introduction of paid transfers and the inability to know if they plan to allow free transfers to or from your server, you may have to do a paid move if they do not introduce something soon.
i wish you could transfer from account to account in classic :/
yeah me too
its dying
Hi
where is the newbie channel, I just started
can't figure out how to turn in my first completed quest
@mint salmon this channel is pretty dead, you MAY get more help on https://discord.gg/DXcC48
thank you, Emu
Could someone tell me how much a Bloodrazor goes for around?
Need a group to farm exp with also looking for warlock disc if anyone can forward me
Hi guys ! Please tell me, on Russian servers, BWL will be released on Thursday, at 2 a.m. ?
@maiden river we already answered to you in VK, please check your inbox.
@frigid fractal in Russian wowhead it is written that BWL will be February 11 at 3 p.m. PST. That is, in Russia BWL will be released earlier?
there's an official post from Blizzard stating that BWL will become available on February 12 at 02 AM MSK.
February 11 at 3 p.m. PST = February 12 at 02 AM MSK. is everything right?
it also says: we will unlock the following WoW Classic content simultaneously on all realms
At 3:00 p.m. PST (6:00 p.m. EST) on Wednesday, February 12 = February 13 at 02 AM MSK
sry for my eng ๐
This is very important information, we need to know what night we do not sleep!)
hello, anyone help me, need Discord channel Priest holy ๐
<@&299347348847329281> ๐ฆ
@mystic trout In case you are still looking...
https://discord.gg/ybcuyG
Is there a discord for shamans? 
Discord for Hunters?
Tysm!!!
is there a way to important char settings from 1 account to another. i want to see both accounts banks on each other and vice versa
Settings you could copy from one to the other but you will need an AddOn to see bank/bag contents from one toon to the next. Bagnon does that and there are others, like Altoholic
Oh... you said account. If you mean a completely different subscription, you could copy the settings from one to the other fairly easily but not sure of any AddOn that allows you to see across different accounts for inventory and the like.
Are you. like, multiboxing, just talking about separate characters in one account, or something else?
you need dbm and details
hi. some1 remember when blizzard introduced the "+spell damage" and "+healing spell" on items?
in which patch i mean.
would it be okay to start classic now?
i now im kinda late XD
and should i roll a warrior or druid?
Its always good to start Classic
Warrior if you want to scale super well into endgame
okay
and what about druid?
ive tried to read some stuff and apparently theyre good for bgs and later raids
and wpvp
idk tho
If you plan to raid as Druid, you'll be forced to go Heals, (You can MAYBE tank if the raid does not already have a designated Bear)
is tanking as warrior hard or?
Is anyone else having a really high ping?
would you guys recommend playing as a rogue
@blissful mural Rogues are good. If you run into specific questions, https://discord.gg/52GwRr is a great resource.
Coming back after long break. Consider to create healer. Priest or shaman? Which one is more fun to play (leveling and healing aspects)? Which one will find slot on raids/dungeons easier? Which one will be easier to wear bis? Which one is better at gold farming?
i'm a completely new player, what class do you recommend and should i start with classic wow?
You can always try a Mage or Hunter. Don't be afraid to try them all though.
I need help getting somewhere on wow classic if anyone is willing to help
omg i miss playing World Of Warcraft...............has anybody pre-ordered The Shadowlands expansion pack yet?
I hope classic doesn't bring back the old barrens
g o o d
there are also classic discord server for the german servers Luciveron (pvp) and everlook (pve)
Heey guys anyone online?
I need help! My stats aint the same at wowhead as in game. Can anyone tell me why?
?
Hi. Any good discord for farming dung in classic?
Hey is dark moon faire up yet on classic?
Hey is there a wowhead guide for dark moon faire?
I cant seem to find one on the classic section
Man I wish they just add guild bank and arena pvp to current game, I would play it for ages and ages
Hello
Does anyone know how to leave a guild when your the only member but didn't create the guild yourself??
Yeah
@boreal citrus just wait for classic TBC. You will have both
Anyone from whitemane server?
me
@maiden river Type /gdisband to leave the guild. It will be permanently deleted in the process. Works even if the guild has other members
@subtle herald thanks buddy
any alliance on gandling EU around level 37-41 wanna do dungeons?

i
that goes in #no-wow-discussion @scenic kettle
hey i was thinking of getting into wow
would it be better to play classic or retail
with some friends
@tame charm Up to you. Retail is wow as it currently is, with content updates. Classic is wow as it was in 2005
I would recommend you do a fair bit of reading on the differences. Do not be told one is just 'better' than the other
@tame charm classic is better at making new friends.
The only way to meet new friends is get to max level and join a community or guild. I've met so many new friends leveling up my main and more so on classic
I never see anyone in the world when I'm leveling a vulpera. Its super lonely
Also anyone know if the felwood cursed oozes drop the pet? I checked wowhead and it says the it comes in the bag. I've been farming these mobs for days and no drop.
I've farmed that pet for ages with nothing, there's a reason it's so much to buy it
Was about to ask the same question that @tame charm Just asked, is the population super different between the both?
Ehhhh... self promotion's not allowed, part of the rules in #welcome-rules, @lone stone
I didn't see a video/stream/etc share in this discord? Does it not exist?
Is OffTopic an Ok place?
As per the rule, you need to be given the OK by Sas148 (either by DM'ing) or contacting feedback@wowhead.com
If given approval, it goes in the appropriate channel (so in the case of the video you linked, in this channel)
Interesting, ok thank you ๐
hi
I have one time permission to post my video ๐ Sas148Yesterday at 10:16 PM
Sure, go ahead. Add a comment at the end that I approved the posting. Please note this does not grant permission for this sort of thing in perpetuity.
Feel free to sit back, relax and listen to my latest narration. With Blackwing Lair launching this week, here is a short background on Nefarian!
Sit back and enjoy a short tale about the background of Nefarian and how he has taken Blackwing Lair as his own!
Source of Nefarian's Background: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Nefarian
Socials:
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my god your voice, can I have it please
your voice is heaven but I think it might be worth taking the asmr mouth noises out
pop filter or something
Thank you for the kind words! Yes, I do need to get a pop filter ASAP, I do apologize for that.
That's cool. Wasn't sure if it was unintentional or you were going for the hard ASMR crowd
You can make an improv pop filter with a cut up pair of tights or somewhat and some coat hanger @lone stone
was what I did for music tech studies
Yo, does whitemane realm error?
Hello, I probably won't be here long I just have a question:
If I have free WoW right now with a level 20 character, and I get a subscription for 1 month (maybe more if all goes well), do I now have full World of Warcraft (apart from the newest expansion)?
Would probably be more appropriate for modern but yes
So this is going to sound dumb, but im pretty new to wow classic. How many secondary skills can you have?
Like fishing? you can learn all of fishing/cooking/first aid
Primary professions you can only choose two
perfect thank you
@drowsy stratus error? been getting long ass queue times, but no errors.
im switching to benediction or faerlina once I can get on my toon.. I don't want to have to wait over an hour again like this. whitemane is just too populated lol.
hi I am looking for an addon that will flash the ability icon on your action bar when you are pressing its key on keyboard. I searched google and it says snowfallkeypress had this function on its 1.5+ versions but you can only download 1.4 right now. Anyone can help me with this :)?
Cleared in 42 minutes..Big Content, Classic Hard
Played wow from start to WoD going to kick classic seeing I have cleared all but naxx 40 as a priest what's the newest server so I'm not to far behind
But I'm thinking of playing a dps game this time around thinking of a rogue
Loot of guild seem to be looking for rogue/warriors dps for some reason I remember back in the day thy was all over
hi...
i just joined wow (free for now) and idk which one is better to play lol this classic or some other one
im very new haha
@maiden river It's really personal. Leveling in Battle for Azeroth is easier, game pace is faster, you don't need to communicate that much to get things done, there are lots of things to do (old content, new content, achieves, etc.). On the other hand classic needs more communication, leveling takes more time and it's relatively harder, you need groups to do certain quests, and you need to be social in order to do dungeons and raids, there is the classic grind and less content to do.
hmm oki i see thanks
np
Tanks#4837 has been warned.
classic isnt that good unless you have friends. speaking of which anybody want to play with me?
what server you on east or west
West but I can make a character on east
whats a good place to get addons for classic wow
Nvm I figured out how to do it with twitch
Wow
Hey
why do i keep getting teleported to the cell when i die. in the bfa quest line. i cant even finish the quest, when i "reach the sewers" it doesnt even count
Any one doing carries for RFC? or WC?
Any latin playing in hordic ??
how do i unlock the family crypt quest i went to the npc and it doesn't show up?
@raven relic https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=408/the-family-crypt#comments:id=3147769
Did you read this?
Hey so Iโm making a warrior on classic I have the two names Gha and TopDog which one would you go with lol
hi just watched the Assault on Blackwing Lair trailer and im so keen to play. is wow classic more casual friendly now than before?
If someone helps me find a cool name on Harod I have something special for you PM me! Iโve been having troubles lol
Are Paladins good dungeon tanks/healers?
Hi, I'm new to this discord and I need some help.
I want to know what I should use as a rouge
Daggers or swords?
Hey... looking for a buddy (or buddies) to level with because I'm bored. PM me if interested and want to do casual leveling up. I used to do mythic raids (heals and deeps) in the last xpac and took a LOOOOONG break... just getting back in.
@urban shuttle You should try putting a note in a couple of the 'looking for' chat channels. Many folks looking for leveling partners, raiders, et cetera.
@lime garden are you a sword fan or a dagger or why not try both sword and dagger
Hey all is there a reason that the March of the silithid quest isnโt showing up for me?
I canโt get that quest to show up and I donโt know why it wonโt I donโt already have it and Iโve never started it either
Did you do the quest The Missing Courier in Feralas @barren plover?
anyone knows if there is a full wallpaper of this somewhere online?
Thank you!
5 manning that raid? smh blizzard
Is this where I can ask general questions about tech support for wow classic?
You can ask anything ๐
Im have massive fps drop spikes in WoW classic for seemingly no reason and randomly itll just freeze up super hard then go back to normal
Hey guys
So I wonder
Which wow should I start playing
Classic or bfa
Please help me
classic if you want to have an old school grind low xp low money long hours, bfa if you wanna level fast, make oodles of money, or dont play long
dont rush keep it casual

