no-wow-discussion

[hazy berry]

definitely not classic

[hardy forge]

define your inquiry

[hazy berry]

the only ones playing classic are those consumed by nostalgia. its not actually good

[pulsar holly]

oh okay

but if im going to play retail

do i need to buy any expansions ?

[hardy forge]

the subscription alone gives you ALL content EXCEPT the latest and newest one

[hazy berry]

yes. you always have to pay for the latest expansion, while all previous expansions are free/included in the subscription

[pulsar holly]

ah so shadowlands is not available for me but the rest is?

[hardy forge]

yes

[pulsar holly]

oh cool

[hardy forge]

all content that is not shadowlands is included

in the subscription

[hazy berry]

the only loot you actually get from it is soul ashe, and the ammount is extremely low.. i just cleared level 2 and got 100. now it says the level 3 will give only 85. this is pretty terrible

even more so considering the content is grindy, and EXTREMELY repetetive

you're basically running through the same level with the same mobs indefinitely

[hardy forge]

ideally you only need to do torghast's highest level once per week

you dont get any more soul ash after you clear once per week

you do layer 3

and you're done for the week

1 run

if you want to go for cosmetics you do twisting corridors

not the soulash version

[hazy berry]

hmm k

[hardy forge]

DISCLAIMER: as the weeks go on

more layers will be opened

as always it's same deal just do highest layer once

per week and you're done

[hazy berry]

okay, so to double check.. thorgast levels reset on weekly but i can still do the highest one i've unlocked previously and doing that one will grant me all previous level rewards as well.. so in other words this soul ash stuff is a long term grind goal?

[hardy forge]

soul ash is needed to craft legendary items

there's literally no other use for it

so once you have your level 4 legendary,unless you want another legendayr

there's no use to it

torghast "modifiers/affixes" change weekly,and you can only get soul ash rewards once a week

[hazy berry]

allright

and the maw itself is only really doable for like a few minutes per day lest you get the eye of jailer and no reputation + perma ganked..

these are some annoying as god damn fuck features

[hardy forge]

just turn off warmode dude

dont complain about getting ganked if you willingly turned warmode on

like cmon

[timber crag]

Yo if someone gifts me Shadowlands I'll do all your math homework

[hazy berry]

im not talking about warmode

iim talking about the level 5 debuffs

[hardy forge]

yeah you're supposed to gtfo with level 5

maw is about being quick with what you do

you can perfectly do all you need to do and get out before you get rank 5 if you dont afk in there

[hazy berry]

thats what i mean, u cant really do any content, you're 'locked out' of the maw for the majority of the game with a stupid annoying as shit mechanic

thats the lamest form of daily lock i have ever seen

[hardy forge]

there isnt much content to do in the maw outside of rares or dailies,and the content there is you can perfectly do within the eye limit

you're locked out per day too,not week

im not exactly defending the system,just saying it's not as bad as you portray it

[hazy berry]

they got so much right in this expansion, the campaign was really amazing experience

but this maw and torgahst shit really sucks balls

[hardy forge]

i personally really like torghast,and that seems to be the majority sentiment of the community too,
if you dont like torghast,you just need to do 6floors,once a week and you're done

[hazy berry]

6? i thought you said 3

[hardy forge]

6floors

at highest layer(which atm is 3,but will get higher)

6floors took me about 15-20 mins so wont be much of a botherr if you dont like the feature

[hazy berry]

i dont understand

6 floors 3 levels.. so 2 different instances?

[hardy forge]

🤦‍♂️

you start a layer 3 run,you do 6 floors of it

you done

makes it easier to understand

[hazy berry]

ah ok

so "1 run" per week

[hardy forge]

yes

[hazy berry]

ah great, im at the boss and he's way too strong for me

lovely

[hardy forge]

choose better powers 😂

[hazy berry]

didnt get any good ones

i am running the worst spec in the game and it shows

[hardy forge]

or CC,or run away,idk

[hardy forge]

just get carried by anima powers 😂 😂

[hazy berry]

survival hunter

and its completely dog shit

the boss has abilities that oneshots me and 2 shots my pet

and 300k hp

super fun

[hardy forge]

surv hunter i agree does not have a central mechanic

it was good in legion,

[hazy berry]

and the RNG fucked me on powers, all i got was mobility crap

[hardy forge]

then they made mongoosebite not baseline and fucked up

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hazy berry]

cant beat this boss, 30 min wasted, noice

[hardy forge]

noice

if you know roguelikes,you arent always going to have successful runs 100% of the time

it's in the name roguelikes

popular ones may be binding of isaac,hades and others

and i played hades recently,i had to go through 10 runs before i got a successful run

also,you can always run torghast with other people

since full group of 5 is allowed,so you arent exactly stranded without options

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hazy berry]

just switching spec tbh and never touching survival again

it doesnt even have good damage

its staggeringly bad spec

[hardy forge]

i think everyone agrees survival is in a really bad spot right now compared to its legion version

it doesnt have any core concept(which was mongoosebite in legion,but now it's a talent)

[hazy berry]

its just shocking how they let something like that slide

pretty sure im doing 30% + more dps in marksman than survival

[hardy forge]

it hasnt had it's chance at the rework wheel yet

like shadowpriest and enhancement sham for SL

[hazy berry]

enhance sham good now?

[hardy forge]

ye real fun

they removed maelstrom from it and now is back to mana

[hazy berry]

i played it a bit in bfa and it had some burst windows but overall felt really lackluster

and extremely vulnerable/squishy

[hardy forge]

it got reworked with maelstrom weapon as the core concept now

should work even at lvl 50 if you want to try it out

tho might be dependent on gear

[hazy berry]

i'll have to check it out

[timber crag]

I did all three layers of the smoldering wing as survival. I don't think the issue is with survival so much as it is PEBKAC

[hazy berry]

question, how does shadowlands work for alts? i need to go through campaign on every character or is it account wide?

[timber crag]

Only one death and that was because I was distracted

You only need to do the leveling story once to 60 then an alts you can use Threads of Fate option

[hazy berry]

im not familiar with that, threads of fate?

[timber crag]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/threads-of-fate-shadowlands-adventure-mode-leveling

[hazy berry]

cheers fam

[hardy forge]

Short for problem exists between keyboard and chair, PEBKAC is a term used by computer technicians and IT professionals to describe a user error. The term asserts that the user is to blame when referring to the technical issue at hand; not the installed software or the device itself. for context

[hazy berry]

problem exists between keyboard and chair

yeah because the user between the keyboard and chair got fucked by the RNG on anima powers and gave me almost nothing but movement speed options

kiss my ass dude

[hardy forge]

i'd really rather not,fam

[hazy berry]

i really despise this kind of troll shit where people are moving to conclusions with almost zero knowledge.. "well the problem didnt exist for me so it must be your fault"

you see the exact same phenomenon in chats when there is a game breaking bug that causes crash to desktop on certain hardware combinations.. person one will ask please help my game is crashing, and then person two who doesnt have the crashing hardware combo will say some uneducated dumb fuckery like "man check ur firewall, i dont have a problem"

its always the dumbest fuck in the room who will offer his opinion

[hardy forge]

we also arent qualified blizzard support staff and the internet is the internet

so im really not surprised

[hazy berry]

i know dude

im just trying illustrate what a cunt that guy is for suggesting pebkac

[quaint furnace]

pat It'll be OK.

[hazy berry]

if the objective is only to seek provocation, then just go outside and shout racism at the first person you see. if your objective is to be a dickhead then at least do it in an arena where you will have to face the real consequences

[timber crag]

Bruh it's just words on a screen you don't gotta look at em

You've got a funny Snake Pliskin pfp, thought you could take some salty humor

[hazy berry]

piss off you troll child

[timber crag]

You can literally just block me dude, don't gotta get so assblasted

[deft grove]

survival should be in a bad spot

a hunter without a gun is just a warrior with a dog

[terse hare]

Polearm win

[deft grove]

shut @terse hare

dont prove me wrong wth

not cool bro

[terse hare]

Ok now I want to make a survival hunter themed around neolithic

Gotta wear furs and have a shitty spear

[deft grove]

i mean you CAN tame a sabercat or mammotth

might be pretty dope

[terse hare]

When I wipe I just say "unga"

[deft grove]

you can go that direction with it, sure

[terse hare]

Ride a dinosaur too for full historical accuracy

[deft grove]

no it has to be an orc named Unga

alliance are such

big

wimpy little bitches

who cant fight anyone 1v1, they need their friends or they literally run away

run away little alliance, dont hit me if you cant take it

[terse hare]

I play in a 1 alliance to 9 horde server ,so my experience is opposite

though it's connected to a server that is opposite

[deft grove]

What dumbass mage decides "oh im gonna bother this unholy DK"

[terse hare]

so it evens out

[deft grove]

"Literally my class counter, thats a good idea right?"

it was just that one mage too, everyone else has left me alone, even the guy that helped the mage lmao

[terse hare]

Some guy attacked me, I killed him and he didnt even revive

think they ragequit

[deft grove]

now theres a hunter poking me who barely registers as a fly and stands there when he knows hes losing

why do this

[timber crag]

anyone knows best profession for resto shaman?

[neon hinge]

Profesions don't really matter for classes

[timber crag]

Yo

This uhh might be weird

But anyone got a cod mw acc

That i can use for a few days

[trail rover]

@timber crag I would think maybe inscription herbalism. Not sure though

[quaint furnace]

What dumbass mage decides "oh im gonna bother this unholy DK"
@deft grove Oop. I'm getting called out.

[deft grove]

wanna fight about it? my zambos are hungry

[quaint furnace]

I've started casting slow on any horde that target me because they all immediately rush me afterwards.

[hazy berry]

bleh i always felt like alliance sux arse in battleground and horde always winning like 90% of the time when i played it as alliance

[deft grove]

good luck i have three slow removers and death grip and chains and...

[hazy berry]

played one as horde now.. same is still true

what kind of stompage is this

[deft grove]

i play both sides and guess what

they both suck

🥳

[hazy berry]

alliance players are way worse in pvp and they have been for 16 years

generally speaking

[deft grove]

i dont know about statistics at max rank games but i just know both sides think the other one is cheating if they win

[hazy berry]

not talking about ranked and dedicated pvp players, i imagine that is way more even. but the casual players who enter normal battleground... the alliance player is on average way worse than the horde player

it was like that ever since alterac valley came for the first time.. alliance lost every single one

[deft grove]

thats because AV is factually set up for the horde, thats a bad example

but the rest of that is just subjective, both sides whine all the time and both sides lose horribly

[hazy berry]

allright, fair enough. but still. extremely high losing streak when playing alliance, and visa versa

maybe it was specific to my battlegroup, who knows

[deft grove]

the only argument i accept that horde is better is that they have objectively better racials

which means a battleground of 10 players, both sides have the same classes, same specs, same skill level, horde should win over half the time

not much higher

prolly like 55-60% or even less

likely less

[hazy berry]

i'd make a statement that i have no actual evidence or statistics to backup, but still think its true regardless.. there are certain birth names of men that are way more represented among criminals and names of people who are in or has been in jail. its a difficult topic to research on because of political correctness, ethics.. what not. but the theory is that people who are more prone to anti authority or criminal tendencies from a genetic perspective, also are more drawn to certain names for their children. so they'll favour a typically high represented named in criminals, while also passing on "criminally prone" genetics.

i think its the same concept at play for horde/alliance and pvp. people who are shit at pvp are more drawn to alliance.

you dont have to tell me how ridiculous all of this sounds, i am aware

[deft grove]

👀

[neon hinge]

That's just nonsense lol

[deft grove]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-door-slam-bye-im-out-gif-3389550

[mortal goblet]

Sorry, I'm new here but sounds very close to eugenics to justify horde/alliance in comparisson to encarceration rates? 👀

[quaint furnace]

I feel like there's some slightly biased opinions. In my experience, it really does just come down to bg rotations and communications. I, personally, as Alliance have more than a 50% win rate, and I play fairly casually

[quaint furnace]

good luck i have three slow removers and death grip and chains and...
@deft grove I play Arcane, so I'm just gonna bust my nut with insant casts and then kite til cds are back up. Altered time means I just pop back after you yeet me and Arcane Barrage 50% slow/ms increase is useful. Arcane Lock is spoopy though.

5 seconds, whole kit is dead? Rip me

[hazy berry]

question for you guys, which one of these two do you think looks better visually

[unborn drift]

this one

[hazy berry]

not for screenshot quality but for playing

first or second one?

[unborn drift]

second

on first its like gray

[hazy berry]

the first one is default game settings.. the second is nvidia gamefilter

[unborn drift]

well its good with nvidia gamefilter

[hazy berry]

yeah, i love that feature

just look at the ground detail difference on this

its just so much better to look at lol

[quaint furnace]

Just looks slightly brighter.

[hazy berry]

its way sharper

and more vibrance

world of warcraft is extremely blurry graphics, the sharpness filter makes that look so much nicer

it can get noisy if there's too much stuff

[terse hare]

hm ye it does seem to touch saturation a bit

although it will also depend on your monitor colour settings

ahd whatnot

Ie, some people are going to be seeing colours differently from get go

before getting into software tuning

[quaint furnace]

My monitor naturally looks like the second one

[terse hare]

likewise

first pic is what westfall looks to me

[quaint furnace]

Yup

[terse hare]

and of course people with monitors tuned differently may not even see much difference

[quaint furnace]

Even then, a bit more vibrant with the landscape

[terse hare]

Seen that in game dev a lot

some people say "this is all black" and others can see every detail because of their contrast being in same range you devd at

all being the reason why most console games make you tune this stuff on startup

[quaint furnace]

Yup

[terse hare]

Note: touch an art student's monitor calibration if you want to be stabbed with a h2 pencil

[quaint furnace]

Yes

[hazy berry]

art students kek

[spring heath]

Imagine enjoying any kind of media and also mocking art students at the same time

[hazy berry]

wat

[quaint furnace]

Imagine enjoying any kind of media and also mocking art students at the same time
@spring heath Aroo?

[spring heath]

That'll be $350

[quaint furnace]

.01$

[hazy berry]

mm hunter is crazy strong in battlegrounds

[mortal goblet]

man balancing a monitors color for art is real hard

theres this little xiaomi balancer thingie

that is like 15$ and it does it automatically, all art students should have one

[sullen dock]

howdy

i dont play WOW but i have a code for shadowlands that im trying to giveaway

because im not gonna use it

so like if you want it add me and dm me

[tough escarp]

I don't think that's allowed in here @sullen dock

[timber crag]

He giveawayed it.

To me.

And i gifted it to my friend.

[sullen dock]

i have done my good deed of today

im outtie

[timber crag]

Ok.

Thanks.

[umbral kettle]

Hello everyone

[timber crag]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hi-puppy-hello-clef-palate-gif-11284014

[fair sigil]

so i cant decide if its worth transferring my main mage character from hellscream to stormrage
she has all the rep grind, all storyline done on her, but i switched to stormrage a while ago before xpac when hellscream was dead af

[timber crag]

Hmmmm.

Is there any difference?

Tbh.

[fair sigil]

she has maximum herb kul tiras and sl
and half way to be done with alchemy for sl

i just dont feel like redoing all of that with a brand new mage on stormrage

[umbral kettle]

I could use some help from people who know their Warcraft lore

Specifically, which order I'd do these in if I wanted to experience the story in order

[timber crag]

Cata.

Legion.

Mist.

Lich.

This is the order i did it by.

https://techguided.com/wow-expansion-list/

1. World of Warcraft (2004)
2. Burning Crusade (2007)
3. Wrath of the Lich King (2008)
4. Cataclysm (2010)
5. Mists of Pandaria (2012)
6. Warlords of Draenor (2014)
7. Legion (2016)
8. Battle for Azeroth (2018).

This is the order.

[umbral kettle]

Thanks man

[timber crag]

Np.

Um.

Wat.

[fair sigil]

?

[dim roost]

[sacred wave]

Thank you

[spring heath]

lul

[umbral kettle]

Wish they didn't start me off in Azeroth, but I assume that's my fault

[timber crag]

what

[unreal walrus]

ban

[timber crag]

what

tf

[dim roost]

[lost plinth]

well at least they pinged mods to ban themself

[bitter rapids]

[spring heath]

time for the channel to have a meltdown

[alpine rivet]

The fuck did you expect lol

[timber crag]

🤦‍♂️

Sas is coming trust me.

He'll hear bout this.

[merry pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-everyone-discord-everyone-ping-discord-ping-discord-notification-gif-18807244

[timber crag]

Then ur ded.

[soft sapphire]

Big Smoke, u busta, straight busta

[quaint furnace]

@strange egret 🤔

[timber crag]

Sas.

Try.

Ull die.

Not that one.

One message removed from a suspended account.

🤦‍♂️

Sas the staff.

Yup.

He ded.

[soft sapphire]

I'll be gone then

[timber crag]

🤦‍♂️

Trolls stay trolls.

[quaint furnace]

^

[timber crag]

Derek.

Schauvin.

[obtuse anchor]

did i get pinged in here?

[quaint furnace]

Yes

[timber crag]

Stop.

And yes.

Cap yes.

[gentle wharf]

ban the troll already

[timber crag]

BAN HIM SAS.

[buoyant tangle]

Whats going on?

[timber crag]

BAN HIM.

[weak nest]

https://tenor.com/view/emperorsnewgroove-gif-5044287

[quaint furnace]

But... why you gotta ping everyone?

[lost plinth]

moron troll pinging all

[timber crag]

He keeps pinging ppl.

[spring heath]

Just a bored and uninspired troll

[timber crag]

Yea.

[quaint furnace]

Seems kinda... sad.

[timber crag]

Ur the pinger.

It him.

...

[burnt topaz]

BigSmoke#7938 was banned | trying to ping everyone, trolling

[timber crag]

Ok thanks Buuloki.

[gentle wharf]

thanks

[quaint furnace]

Thanks.

[grim sequoia]

[timber crag]

O no.

[cedar oyster]

Thanks.

[dim roost]

[quaint furnace]

Lmfao

[dense trout]

yes Ludde we know

[timber crag]

Yea.

[cedar oyster]

I want that emote.

[quaint furnace]

Same

[timber crag]

@everyone (This is not a ping @ everyone doesn't work)

But yea.

[spring heath]

It pings the staff and mods tho

[cedar oyster]

Well, @ whatever role.

[timber crag]

It doesn't.

everyone doesn't work.

[spring heath]

Thulm said it does for them

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[timber crag]

Wat.

[quiet briar]

I got the ping

[past perch]

Why ping?

[quiet briar]

stahp

[timber crag]

Yea the role ping.

Not the everyone ping.

[buoyant tangle]

The person still pinged the roles, mods, tried to ping everyone

[timber crag]

What.

oh no red dot let me cry

So it works?

Everyone works?

Tf.

[spring heath]

Yo Buu did Sam's thing get you or was Thulm playin' like he does

[cedar oyster]

It doesn't. You can ping all the roles.

[timber crag]

Oh no little red dot appeared on my screen let me be a tit bag and throw a fit wah wah

[cedar oyster]

Which is what they did.

[buoyant tangle]

Yeah it got us because it was a @ Moderator ping

[timber crag]

yall some cry babies

[spring heath]

No, I mean Samorian's @ everyone

[timber crag]

Oh so @ moderator works but @ everyone doesn't?

[lost plinth]

yes

[timber crag]

Ok.

[lost plinth]

they pinged all region roles

[buoyant tangle]

@ everyone is disabled for everyone except staff iirc, but the region roles not too sur eon

[lost plinth]

which i do maintain is a dumb thing to have for basically that reason but it is what it is

[weak nest]

It's so you can reach the Mod team if you need it

[timber crag]

ping???

[spring heath]

Ok so Thulm wasn't fuckin with us

Thanks for the confirm, Buu

[buoyant tangle]

No like, staff won't get notified, but they can use it

[spring heath]

Or, wait

Yeah I misread

I'm still processing coffee

[buoyant tangle]

@ everyone just doesn't work

[timber crag]

Hmmmm. Still kinda corrupt bc there's at least 50 ppl who are trolls on this server.

[buoyant tangle]

What do you mean corrupt

[timber crag]

@everyone But i still like it being blue so i can troll.

[cedar oyster]

I mean...

[weak nest]

lol not at all, it's a pretty basic expectation of a large server if stuff is going wrong

[cedar oyster]

If it doesn't send the red dot, all gucci in my books.

I like my no number red dot.

[timber crag]

What just happened? There were like 7 pings

[cedar oyster]

I only had 1.

[timber crag]

Corrupt = to become tainted or rotten. Or to change from good to bad in morals, manners, or actions

I only had 1 too, didn’t catch what it was 😅

[buoyant tangle]

I know that, why would it be corrupt to ping mods?

[timber crag]

Or Corruption is a form of dishonesty or criminal offense undertaken by a person or organization entrusted with a position of authority, to acquire illicit benefit or abuse power for one's private gain..

But I don’t talk here so safe to assume it’s nothing

[dense void]

pingpong

[timber crag]

Bc ppl can abuse.

[cedar oyster]

Hm. Isn't purification technically also corrupting someone?

[timber crag]

If 100 ppl start pinging.

It's gonna be hard to ban them all.

[quaint furnace]

Why would they?

[cedar oyster]

And I'm overthinking this, aren't I?

[timber crag]

🤦‍♂️

[buoyant tangle]

Don't think we've ever had that happen, and if it does, we have the option to increase server security

[weak nest]

Not really

[timber crag]

Purification is the process of rendering something pure, i.e. clean of foreign elements and/or pollution, and may refer to.

Many things.

[cedar oyster]

Purifying to total good can be seen as totally corrupting someone.

[timber crag]

Well it's not needed at the moment.

[cedar oyster]

OK, I'll just shut up, because I know I'm overthinking this.

[timber crag]

🤦‍♂️.

[quaint furnace]

Hm. Isn't purification technically also corrupting someone?
@cedar oyster Depends in which context you speak. Corrupt my necrotic energy and purified back to normal? Politically corrupt? What if you thrive off the corruption, as in it's your natural habitat. Wouldn't that be your pure? Then purifying the corruption would actually be corruption for that thing.

[timber crag]

Not overthinking overstupeditifying something that is clearly simple corrupt is the oposite of purify.

overstupeditifying ik it's not a word.

[cedar oyster]

I mean, I wouldn't say it's making something stupid, as much as it is my brain deciding to focus on a random thing and overthinking it.

[timber crag]

Your brain doesn't focus u focus your brain just applies/makes the action.

[quaint furnace]

...

Who asked you?

[timber crag]

Ur focusing and overthinking.

[timber crag]

Somebody too corrupt bc he was purified.

[quaint furnace]

You're saying he's making it overly complex. I'd disagree since corruption and purification are seen as black and white terms, especially in WoW, when in reality, it's not that simple.

Everything operates in grey.

[umbral kettle]

kill me

[quaint furnace]

kill me
@umbral kettle When, where, and how?

[cedar oyster]

Btw, everyone, I'm so sorry for this.

[timber crag]

Firstly no, life/reality is very simple what we do of it is "complex" (for us complex).

[timber crag]

Np.

[timber crag]

Wrong black and white never "Never" are the same.

They always are black and white.

Or black or white.

[quaint furnace]

Must be nice to think so simply.

[timber crag]

Ppl are dumb and simple i'm not special or "too" unique to think otherwise.

[quaint furnace]

Way to generalize literally everyone.

[timber crag]

Yup humans will stay dumb until we realise we're dumb.

[quaint furnace]

Btw, everyone, I'm so sorry for this.
@cedar oyster You're all good. I liked the thought and idea.

[timber crag]

It's fun to debate.

[quaint furnace]

Too bad it's not a debate and just ignorance.

[timber crag]

Ignorance of what?

[tough escarp]

Isn't that a famous philisophger quote? "I know that I know nothing"?

[timber crag]

Of the thruth?

[timber crag]

Yup.

[quaint furnace]

"The more you know, the more you don't know."

[timber crag]

The only mistake is that you never knew anything from the start.

🙂

[quaint furnace]

Glad we had this talk.

[timber crag]

To me too.

I am glad too.

[tough escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/tap-dance-dance-daffy-duck-talent-tap-gif-15091532

[quaint furnace]

How long have you studied Philosophy and Psychology?

[timber crag]

Um i didn't i'm 14 years old.

I never studied those.

[tough escarp]

I took 2,5 years - wasnt the greatest thing tbf

[quaint furnace]

Um i didn't i'm 14 years old.
@timber crag Explains some things.

[timber crag]

🍣

I'm loving this discussion lol

[tough escarp]

dont shame people for thier age - that's not nice

[timber crag]

Ik.

[timber crag]

I am too.

[quaint furnace]

That's not shaming. We have different life experiences. I did 6 years military and am a decade older. I have a brother your age.

[timber crag]

"experience" another good subject.

[tough escarp]

My age or his?

[timber crag]

Well i gtg.

[quaint furnace]

His

[timber crag]

Cya.

[quaint furnace]

Idk yours, Doge.

And I wouldn't presume.

[tough escarp]

😄

I'm way too old

[quaint furnace]

Pffft. Can't be that bad.

My dad plays WoW and he's 51. That's mid-life still lmao

[tough escarp]

I wish my dad would play - but he is too old I'm afraid.

doesnt pick up these things anymore

but I should try to get him into wow anyway

[timber crag]

My 70 year old grandfather plays wow.

[quaint furnace]

Yeah. He's a dungeon/raider. Doesn't have the flexibility or quickness for pvp, but still very much enjoys the game.

[timber crag]

Ok now i rly gtg bye.

[sinful stone]

Random ping?

[quaint furnace]

I'm loving this discussion lol
@timber crag 🤫

[tough escarp]

I'll play with my wife now!
Gott reach Level 60 today!

[crystal junco]

[tough escarp]

Using the ingame Voice Chat and it actually works good ... 😂

[hazy berry]

ilevel 190 BOE polearm just dropped for me

[tough escarp]

gratz

[hazy berry]

would have prefered a bow!

[sinful stone]

I didn't even know theres an in game VC 😂

[spring heath]

Bet you could sell that fucker for mad gold

[hazy berry]

yeah 150k last i checked

[timber crag]

I found out another thing that makes me want so badly that the corona kills us.

They killed 10.000 minks then buried them bc they infected 12 ppl (Ofc the stupid/dumb/fucked up humans didn’t even know if the minks infected them)

[hazy berry]

ahhhh battlegrounds.. the biggest ego booster ever..

most damage, most kills, biggest penis

hahah

the alliance allowed me, as a mm hunter, to hold onto orb forever in temple of kotmogu... doing like 15k dmg aimed shots and one and two shotting people.. just, funny really

[timber crag]

Mm hunters and spriest are op rn.

[hazy berry]

yeah seems like it

[timber crag]

Aimed shot one shots and everything spriest has is op.

[stuck river]

I need your guys opinion on something.

Should i buy the epic shadowlands edition (Most expensive one) or the heroic and a wow token?

[umbral kettle]

Hmm. What should I pair with enchanting as my profession. Blacksmithing?

[outer pilot]

If you really want the mount and the mog set, then heroic edition should be enough, comes with a boost too. Epic is only if you want to spend more for a pet/hearthstone style/30days game time/weapon enchant effect

[coral robin]

what does torghast difficulty scale on, your ilvl?

[timber crag]

Heroic gives 30 days aswell i think.

[tough escarp]

enchanting goes well with any prof

crafting profs even more since you can disenchant your creations

[tacit dagger]

Is the servers full?

On EU

I want to play in about half an hiur

[sinful stone]

Enchanting and tailoring is handy

Make bracers cheaply then disenchant for soul dust

[timber crag]

Engeneeering and tailoring i like nore

[umbral kettle]

I decided to go with Blacksmithing for now

[timid ruin]

got me some new mounts yeet 👌

[tacit dagger]

How much is the max skill of profession on free trial? 100?

I'm with tailoring and enchanting too

On the warlock

[timber crag]

yep

but what does it matter on the free trial

you cant use AH and you cant have more than 100 gold

Anyone know a good bow go get in wow

[tough escarp]

there are way too many good bows

[tacit dagger]

What's better for hunter, leather working or engineering?

[neon grove]

How do you even get a proffesion

I started wow 2 days ago, im lvl 14

[tacit dagger]

Ask a guard in the city for profession trainer

And it will show on the map

[neon grove]

Wait what city, im near a big pyramid

[tacit dagger]

I don't know what pyramid you talking about

Where are you at the moment?

Exile's Reach?

[neon grove]

In my bed, just wanted to know xD

Im horde elf warlock

[halcyon dirge]

In the game my friend

Go to orgrimmar or silver moon and talk to a guard

[neon grove]

Im near some aztec looking pyramid

I talked too a king and did some missions

[halcyon dirge]

What's the zone called when you open your map

[tough escarp]

a Zigurat

[halcyon dirge]

Probay in dazar alor

[neon grove]

Missions for a prophet called zul too

[halcyon dirge]

Ye ur in Zandalar

Talk to a flight master and they should be able to send you to the main city

Or click on the hearthstone in your bag

[neon grove]

Yeah this game is massive xD

I think i have like 6 hours played

Im confused tho, i just run around and do random missions

[halcyon dirge]

You're trying to get to level 50 and then you can do the new content in shadowlanda

[neon grove]

Am i just supposed clear that whole area or is there a certain path im supposed to follow

[halcyon dirge]

When you open your map on the side it'll say the zone and x/y completed

Thats the main quest and gets you the most xp and levels you fastest

Once you're done the main quests move to a new zone

[neon grove]

Ohhhh dope

Ok one more

What proff matched a warlock

The best

[tacit dagger]

What's better for mage or warlock, tailor enchant or alchemy?

[timber crag]

@neon grove are you horde or alliance

[neon grove]

Horde

[timber crag]

Ok

I need people to play with on alliance

[neon grove]

When i said alliance my friend got angry

[timber crag]

Lmao

[neon grove]

When i wanted to pick that

[timber crag]

Oh yeah

[neon grove]

No clue why, i like warlock though

Summoning beasts and stuff

[halcyon dirge]

Warlock is fun and big damage

One of their specs is always good

[tacit dagger]

What is better for warlock, tailoring + enchanting or herbalism + alchemy?

[halcyon dirge]

I would do tailor enchant

[neon grove]

I saw a streamer who had a midget character and he was shape-shifting into a fox, i wanted that 😭

[halcyon dirge]

Blood elf radials are good for enchanting and tailoring builds your equipment

[tacit dagger]

What about hunter?

[neon grove]

Tailor and enchant, gotcha

[halcyon dirge]

Romy that's the night fae ability and you can get that once you're in shadowlanda

Hunter skinning and leather working

[neon grove]

Ohh pog

Im testing the game for one month atm on US servers

[tacit dagger]

On free trial I can't trade potions?

[halcyon dirge]

Not sure about the potions on a trial

I'm us on tich

[neon grove]

If i like it enough, i will buy more gametime

And expansion

[halcyon dirge]

I can add you tonight pm me your Battlenet tag

[neon grove]

Uhhhhh

Byakugan#21114

I think

Yesterday some stranger came up too me cause i made my character a girl

Started pming me from 2 different accounts

He said i will help you

They cant lure you and kill you right?

[tacit dagger]

What is better for dwarf hunter, skinning and leatherwork or mining and engineer?

What is more useful stuff for hunter

I play on free trial so I can't trade stuff

[quaint furnace]

Professions don't matter much per class. Some races have bonuses, but even then, shrug

[tacit dagger]

It matters

Leatheroeking gives you gear

Engineering only guns

[devout anchor]

What chromietime expac do you guys level your alts in?

[timber crag]

i do northrend and outlands

Anyone here on alliance

[devout anchor]

I’m ali

[halcyon dirge]

Romy someone on your faction can't kill you

[tacit dagger]

So what's more important for hunter - having leather items or having guns?

[halcyon dirge]

Weapons will drop from dungeons and quests and stuff

[timber crag]

Would you wanna play sometime mango

[devout anchor]

I can’t play now

[halcyon dirge]

Gear is a lot more important for you to have and can be upgraded easier

[neon grove]

Ohh yes i saw this dungeon thing on the map ydy

[timber crag]

Same but some other time

[devout anchor]

Sure

[halcyon dirge]

Your gun is one slot but your equipment is like 12 other slots

[timber crag]

Cool

[neon grove]

I got something from a quest yday but it was offhand

What do i wield with that

In my main hand

Ahhh crap, i gotta go

@halcyon dirge thanks for all the info and tips

U have my battletag

Byakugan#21114

Feel free to add, i am horde

[sly bluff]

Hey guys .. new player! What class/race should I play .. I think druid was just too overwhelming idk

[tough escarp]

try hunter

[hazy berry]

lol

a demon hunter hit me with "the hunt" for 15k dmg, from that ability alone

then everything else followed

what the fuck is that?

[tough escarp]

pretty powerful

[tacit dagger]

What I mean is that on free trial I can only make stuff for myself because I can't trade

So it's better to pick profession that is good for my character

[hazy berry]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=323639/the-hunt

that is the most overpowered spell in the game, holy crap what a joke

noone else see the problem with that ability in pvp?

if 2 demon hunters use that ability at the same time on a target, they are insta killed.. arena anyone?

im triggered

[hidden vortex]

Hey all, I'm new to both the game and Discord

it's been fun playing so far, but I was wondering itf it's normal that I struggle a bit with finding the quest objectives, and that if enemies with the same level as me tend to be a real struggle

thanks in advance!

[tough escarp]

are you playing classic?

[hidden vortex]

yeah, I heard it was more challenging than Retail

and that it's community felt more alive, I played both and so far I'm leaning more towards classic

[tough escarp]

yes - Classic is way more complex - it also doesnt realyl show where quest objectives are

so the struggle is as designed

[hidden vortex]

so I heard, I like it

it's all the more satisfying

[timber crag]

Classic is just a George Foreman novelty grill game mode that replicates the vanilla state of the game and is missing out on over a decade's worth of content, too

I can see the appeal but it's not for everyone

[tough escarp]

yeah - that's why a lot of people play it I guess

[dense topaz]

Anyone wanna play WoW?

I’m a beginner ^^

[timber crag]

KC4H-BLJJ-34NH8-ML98-VMBL <- Free shadowlands code if anyone wants it

[dense topaz]

Someone could get that lmfaoo ^^^ Gotta beat the game first and get good gear for that world

How much is shadowlands anyway?

[timber crag]

$40

[dense topaz]

Holy

[timber crag]

I got a free code for buying a new GPU

all my friends already have it

[split fossil]

Test

[dense topaz]

That’s pretty cool ngl

[timber crag]

What realm and faction are you playing?

[dense topaz]

@timber crag Let me check

What’s faction? @timber crag

I’m playing on Nazjatar

Wait you can’t play with friends?

[timber crag]

Like Horde or Alliance

there's crossrealm but can't playing with different faction

[dense topaz]

Alliance

It’s not letting me invite people to the team

It says free trial account

But I just bough the game right now like the subscription $14.99

[timber crag]

That's just a sub though

it's not the whole game

[dense topaz]

Wait what?

How much is the whole game and where do I get it from?

[timber crag]

sub is until lvl 50, you should have access to content up until BFA

newest expansion which is to lvl 60 is Shadowlands, costs $40 onetime

from the battle.net site

where you got the sub

[dense topaz]

If I don’t get shadowlands I can’t play with friends?

So did I get the subscription for no reason then? Or

[timber crag]

you should be able to

but not the newest content nor level to 60

[tough escarp]

you can play with friends - just not in shadowlands

[dense topaz]

It still says free trial account I don’t know why?

[tough escarp]

it does that

it takes a while to unlock

you can restart and see if the helps

[timber crag]

order has to show as complete

[sinful stone]

Ye close everything down

[timber crag]

before u get the stuff

[dense topaz]

Should I give it like 5 min?

[timber crag]

just restart like others said

[dense topaz]

Gotcha

[timber crag]

if that doesnt work reset ur password

[dense topaz]

Btw are u alliance @timber crag

[timber crag]

should reset ur account status

update*

no, i'm horde

[dense topaz]

Oh damn

Is there a best place to find people to play with? As a beginner

[timber crag]

Are u from EU?

[dense topaz]

NA

[timber crag]

you could ask in general chat in Stormwind

if someones down to level with u

[dense topaz]

Gotcha ty ty

Still doesn’t work but I could lvl beyond 20

[tough escarp]

yeah the game does that

not everything is unlocked at the same time

[dense topaz]

How long do I wait then @tough escarp ?

Like should I keep playing or nah

[tough escarp]

it can take quite a while - but you can try relogging regularly to see if it synced

officially they say it may take up to 72 hours - but that's rather exceptional

it depends on your method of payment

[dense topaz]

Card

[west carbon]

anyone from Silvermoon can give status on login queue?

[fallen nexus]

hello

[tough escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-sparkle-eyebrow-twilight-my-little-pony-gif-16959070

[timber crag]

@dense topaz I’m new and alliance

[dense topaz]

Oh really?! @timber crag

[timber crag]

Yeah just started yesterday actually

[bleak sentinel]

Hey what class y’all recommend right now?

Thought about getting back into this

[timber crag]

All classes are viable for content these days, so really it's a matter of picking the one you find the most fun

[glad grove]

i just orderd a third 3d printer

[timber crag]

Why didn't you just print one with the other two

[glad grove]

the electronics alone would cost more then these complete printers are 🤷‍♀️

cant make it cheaper then buying these

[marble axle]

Sub rogue is super overtuned rn if you want FoTM

Its a difficult spec tho

[neon grove]

@halcyon dirge

you here dude?

Nvm im good

[ivory venture]

hey how do i report wow stuff 8)

to wowhead staff

[tough escarp]

#wowhead-feedback-support

[echo cove]

I made a joke to a friend that Pimplord sound like Pitloard, so I made this.

[hazy berry]

ok zoomer

[vestal yarrow]

I hear pitlord i think if BBQ

[oak pelican]

now I'm imagining a pitlord with guy feari (or how ever you spell it) hair

[severe river]

yooo

[hazy berry]

how to win at pvp step one.. make your enemies run away in fear

he looks quite rowdy

[tacit dagger]

Downtime again

Hope it's 30 min

[burnt folio]

guys question how do u contact the staff?

[zenith radish]

submit a ticket

[tacit dagger]

Looking for 19 lvl twinks on EU Draenor server to play battlegrounds with

[feral marten]

Hey I just got wow the normal thing haven't baught shadow lands yet. If I buy it will I have the same char or is at an whole diffrent game and stuff

[deft vapor]

everything you currently have stays

you just get more to do in the game

[tacit dagger]

For normal wow you don't need to buy game right?

Only sub

Or I am wrong?

[neon hinge]

Correct

[feral marten]

Yea I meant thag

Haha sorry

Can I also change specs every time I want?

[neon hinge]

Yes

[tight ivy]

Do guilds still recruit? Is now just a bad time since we're close to Nathria release?

Spent all afternoon trying to look for a guild and not even a response to my messages lol

[timber crag]

Are you using the guild finder in-game?

[tacit dagger]

I am a guild master on free trial character but don't know if I can invite people to my guild

[tight ivy]

I haven't yet but I will probably look through tomorrow; I normally like talking to the people whose guilds are taking people rather than applying

It's just weird cause I've never really had trouble finding a guild for characters around expansion launches before

Thanks for the responses

[timber crag]

I'd toss you an invite for my guild but I doubt you'd be interested lol

[dense trout]

you can still invite / transfer lead

[hollow thorn]

how do i get my dagger back?

[tiny comet]

dude THEIR ARE LIKE 800 million spiders in this cave to get spider pet if i wasn't a rogue i would be like nope elite spiders hanging on ceilings on walls everywhere. 👀

hanging on corners hanging on walls hanging on ceilings hanging on ground even some patrolling even eggs

be filled with spiders but a chest is deep in this hold that contains a pet

can u imagine not doing this as a rogue or if they jumped on u

[dense trout]

some people like to slaughter spiders

may they go to Revendreth

[timber crag]

does anyone have a link to a good site to a graphics driver site?

[dense trout]

yeah, your graphics card manufacturer

[timber crag]

thanks homie

[umbral kettle]

Quick question

I have some character boosts, and if I were to use one so I could access Shadowlands, will I be able to still play the story content from old expansions?

[dense trout]

high level characters can always go back and still do the old context, you'll just kill things quickly and not get XP

but you can make another character and use Chromie to scale the expansions to your level (on that new character)

if you want to experience them as they were meant to be

[neon hinge]

XP converts to money

To be exact

[umbral kettle]

Perfect, thank you. I was always afraid of using these boosts because I was afraid of missing out on the story.

[neon grove]

you get old expansions for free now cause shadowlands released or something like that

is what my friend said atleast

when you subscribe

or buy gametime

[spring heath]

Yup
All previous content comes with time, Shadowlands is the only one that requires purchase for the content. Which you can wait until you're 50 and ready for that content to buy

[tiny comet]

i'm about to show u the gunnise world record for LARGEST ROBOT in history

u thought gundam was wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eRR0lXPR6M&t=2s&ab_channel=GreatBigStory dis thig got a gun hope its fake and don't shoot and the creepiest eye u ever seen

u need an elevator to get to the dam thing

its that huge

a robot this big could be weaponized to take down even the TOUGHEST of foes

nothing will be able to stop it with double iron plating

if u can't make an army BUILD 1 thats what those people are thinking

it has 1 BLUE eye make it look creepier and creepy lookin horns

[dense trout]

except those with sufficient armaments or mobility

[wind night]

soo umm, i just downloaded towe UI
but, can anyone show me how to change it.... ?

help plz....?

[steel cloak]

hey

[paper mica]

@river tinsel So password stuffing is simply using the same password for multiple sites. Letssay Dropbox gets a leak and your pw is contained in that. The mal actors will then of course try your email+pw combo on every other site that they can come over as most people are using the same pw for every site.

[frosty tundra]

That's why 2FA can be so useful in countering such things.

[dense trout]

also websites not storing easily* reversible passwords 🙂

or plaintext 🙄

[novel tiger]

[harsh ginkgo]

Does anyone know what "active members" mean when browsing the guild finder in game?

[neon hinge]

🤷

[harsh ginkgo]

doh also asked in off topic

[tacit dagger]

I only played mage in vanilla, is mage good in retail?

At what lvl mage gets the water pet?

[timber crag]

10, and only frost mages get it now

Oh, by the way, you no longer can get abilities from the other classes

[tacit dagger]

Fire mage don't have pet?

[timber crag]

Fire mage don't have pet

[tacit dagger]

What abilities?

I didn't know I can have abilities from other class

[timber crag]

In Vanilla, you could tho

Talents n stuff

[tacit dagger]

Hmmm I don't know

I mean mage is mage

[timber crag]

Yeah, now it's Arcane Mage, Frost Mage and Fire Mage

[tacit dagger]

Oh you mean can't use fire spells if I'm ice?

[timber crag]

With the exception of Frostbolt, Fire Blast and Arcane Explosion, nothing is shared between the classes

[tacit dagger]

Oh I see

[timber crag]

Except for base skills such as Blink, Frost Nova, Timewarp, etc

[tacit dagger]

Can't do fire frost hybrid thing

[timber crag]

Nope, not anymore

That was removed after Cata

[tacit dagger]

But I can switch talents at any time in the city

[timber crag]

Yea

You can also switch specs freely

[tacit dagger]

I know that hybrid is impossible anymore

[timber crag]

Yeah, a hybrid class would be too strong now

[tacit dagger]

But is mage good now? For example frost mage

[timber crag]

Very good

Arcane beats it, but yeah

Frost is top tier

[tacit dagger]

So fire is the worst?

[neon hinge]

Ehh

[timber crag]

You can make it work with a lot of crit

Frost needs a lot of haste now

[neon hinge]

Frost gameplay: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

[tacit dagger]

Arcane was not good in vanilla as I remember

[timber crag]

Yeah, just spam Frostbolt until you get Icicles

[tacit dagger]

But they fixed it I guess

[neon hinge]

Vanilla is 16 years old

[timber crag]

Arcane is really good now

But also a 1 spam

Just spam Arcane Blast

It'll do more damage each time

[neon hinge]

Dealing with mana though

No thank you

[timber crag]

Yea

[tacit dagger]

But in PvP?

[neon hinge]

In PVP skill beats flavour of the month

[timber crag]

In PvP fire is really good

Since you can spam Scorch and Fire Blast

And get your Pyroblast procs in seconds

Damage over time is also really good in PvP

And Fire has a lot of that

[tacit dagger]

And for dungeons what is best DPS?

[timber crag]

Arcane

But I don't suggest doing anything except questing. It's the fastest right now

The dungeon spam era has ended

[tacit dagger]

They removed all low lvl dungeons?

[neon hinge]

What

[timber crag]

No. You can level in any expansion right now to 50

Redesigned leveling

Low level dungeons haven't been removed, they're just unimportant

[tacit dagger]

I will make new character mage to see how is the new leveling but I don't have chromie

[timber crag]

You'll experience leveling in Battle for Azeroth

[tacit dagger]

So no Deadmines etc.?

[timber crag]

At least the leveling wasn't half bad in that expansion

No deadmines

Now you have Freehold, Atal'dazar, King's Rest, etc

[tacit dagger]

Everything is new for me

But maybe it will be interesting

[timber crag]

Welcome back to WoW

Tf.

I had a key.

What key?

And this is wat it says when i put it in

Shadolwands base.

Edition.

For my friend who doesn't have it.

Uhh

It says it for my friend too.

Who doesn't have SL.

Send a ticket

Ok.

Where do i do this?

In your battle.net launcher, click Options and you'll have Get Help/Support

Ok i sent it.

I'm sad.

[unborn drift]

@timber crag

are you trying to gift him?

[hardy forge]

people really be buying torghast boost

[unreal walrus]

120k heroic 250k mythic 0

idk about torghast tho

[hardy forge]

dood,i did torghast layer 3(both) in under an hour

[unreal walrus]

wasnt thorgast solo dung ?

[hardy forge]

with no deaths

[neon hinge]

lmao selling torghast xDDDDDDDDDD

[hardy forge]

you can go in as group too but its harder

[neon hinge]

"harder"

It can be either harder or easier

not just bc of gear and skill

But anima rng too

[timber crag]

Yes.

[hazy berry]

so whats the go-to addon for bastion command table?

[neon hinge]

There isn't one

[hazy berry]

getting my arse handed to me on what is supposed to be a campaign mission, pretty annoying

cant see win rates or anything. the whole thing is thoroughly cryptic

[neon hinge]

Have you tried leveling up?

[hazy berry]

both my companions are level 12

and apparently they suck

[neon hinge]

Also just BC it says campaign doesn't mean you have to do it

[hazy berry]

also i have no more progression on the covenant campaign so idk what is wrong with that

literally no quests

[neon hinge]

First time playing?

[hazy berry]

?

[neon hinge]

Is this the first time you play wow?

[hazy berry]

no

[neon hinge]

Huh.

[hazy berry]

are they just going to drip feed this content by weekly lockouts like always?

[timber crag]

So intelectual are these conversations nowaday.

[timber crag]

.

[timber crag]

.

[neon hinge]

like always

[timber crag]

So intelectual.

[neon hinge]

Look at you having answers by yourself :P

[timber crag]

:>

[hazy berry]

i just dont understand the logic behind drip feed content

they dont want us to play or what? i got nothing to do now

[neon hinge]

Get.. Gear? Explore the world?

Do sidequests?

It's a MMO

[hazy berry]

crafting is literally a money sink

[timber crag]

Dungeons, pvp, pets, questing, achievements, gearing, Torghast, events, treasures, crafting, gathering...

[hazy berry]

99% of the time the materials are worth more than the products you can make

[timber crag]

MMORPG.

First one.

To ever exist.

[neon hinge]

Imagine thinking that

[timber crag]

Finding other people to play with because it's a multi-player game

[neon hinge]

In current expansion

[timber crag]

Massive multiplayer game*.

[hazy berry]

you guys know that MOTHER fight in uldir

here is proof that blizzard blatantly stole that whole encounter, straight up copy pasted it, from star wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_VyQL9fHF0

[timber crag]

Star wars again?

Filthy traitor.

[hazy berry]

that fight is actually really cool.. "this unit will supply urgency to heighten response performance".. then he procedes to oneshot everyone in the raid at 1 second intervals lol

[summer thorn]

nothing like the mother fight really

similar theme

maybe

[hazy berry]

no? they're both droids, they both are "testing participants", they even have almost verbatim voice ques for phases

"evaluating thermal tolerance"

etc

[summer thorn]

Not a droid lmao

[hazy berry]

mother has an archive of all species

[timber crag]

Have you heard of references and inspirational nods?

[hazy berry]

xenoanalyst has an archive of all species

just look at the name.. XENO.. ANALYST

[summer thorn]

all robot fights are like that

[hazy berry]

nah its just coincidence

[summer thorn]

yup

glad we agree

[hazy berry]

climb off your cross, we need the space for the next fool martyr

[timber crag]

It doesn't have to be coincidence if themes match to make a reference

Warcraft references pop culture and other games CONSTANTLY

I feel like you really don't like this game with how much shit you constantly spew about it

[dense topaz]

Do you guys think I should buy a mount for gold or nah?

[neon hinge]

Why do you care of what we think lol it's your game