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hardy forge
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we put his entire playlist at 11pm,it finished at 7am,then we went out to get breakfast at a local bar,and then went to sleep at 9 xd

spring heath
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lol

hardy forge
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quality times 👌

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unfortunately with these online classes i've developed the good habit(to my dismay) of doing uni work in the morning

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so i go to bed max at 2am now

spring heath
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when I wake up
and do some dishes

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gmorningnight

hardy forge
worn wadi
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Can you advertise somewhere in here?

lost plinth
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worn wadi
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Thank You!

hardy forge
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hey at least someone had the decency to ask first

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:o

lost plinth
worn wadi
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lmao

lost plinth
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oh thank god

hardy forge
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also emu what you doin up at 11am, daily reset is in the afternoon

lost plinth
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because i'm a functioning human being with a sleep schedule?

hardy forge
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🤔 i thought you were playing 14

frosty tundra
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I must not be a functioning human being then since I don't understand the concept of a "sleep schedule".

onyx wren
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4:30am and i just ragequit WoT, what is a sleep?

lost plinth
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if you're serious, the concept that one goes to bed around x time and gets up around y time and thus gets z hours of sleep reliably

hardy forge
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that's because sas is a bird

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silly,

deft vapor
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..... i didn't sleep

hardy forge
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grats,sela

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here's a medal ||you discover it's not a real medal||

deft vapor
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thanks, it's as real as my sleep schedule

main dirge
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just looked up the cosmetic I actually wanted and it's for halloween :x

hardy forge
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yikes

main dirge
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well it'll be few months of wait

neon hinge
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Morning

hardy forge
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🤔

main dirge
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🤔

empty swallow
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hey siri, open fin al fan ta see

hardy forge
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the inspiration for procrastination ||it even rhymes|| hit me straight in the face

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(list of all weapons from trials + crafted version if you wanted to go and farm them for glams) relevant pings @lost plinth @spring heath @spice thistle

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you're welcome o.o

empty swallow
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wow thanks for pinging me man

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are you saying I'm not relevant

hardy forge
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you cant ping more than 3 ppl or you get banned,remember emu e.e

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also you're a dps logs person

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not a mog farmer e.e

empty swallow
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Society has outgrown the need for tmog

hardy forge
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Society would like to have a word with you,fashion is the real endgame in all online games

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it is also said that you get a dmg boost if you have good mog

empty swallow
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man I loved fashion shows in pokemon platinum

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I was actually really good at them too

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that was the last time I probably bothered with mog

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I logged on to ff14 to do something before I started il mheg

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now I can't remember

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the pixies got me

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nvm we good, ARR extremes

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Got titans mount GWseremePeepoHappy

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barely killed leviathan holy

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I got MC'd and as I got to the end of the railing my chaos thrust ticked

lost plinth
hardy forge
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looks like a Scholar with an halberd #cantrelate ^

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call the ||casual police||

lost plinth
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lmfao

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who is this mans

hardy forge
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Its one of the top posts in the "dungeons" forums

empty swallow
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I beg the comments are not agreeing

hardy forge
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There was also another guy(who admittedly was a newbie to mmos)
That was claiming he ragequit because he couldn't heal "the aery" on AST with ironworks gear

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And his solution apparently was "I'll play a crafter"

empty swallow
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Let it be 2 times slower
Savage is too much time commitment

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Which one is it

hardy forge
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You can find the threads easily,
But ye,the forums arent hazmat suit levels,but still not that much better than wow

lost plinth
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Oh yeah, those'd be the ones you're commenting on huh

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found em

empty swallow
hardy forge
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Yes indeed

empty swallow
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Has that person heard of ultimates

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pepelaugh

hardy forge
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i dont think so lul

empty swallow
hardy forge
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question..can scrip gear be traded(get someone in my FC to buy it for me) specifically ShB ones(lvl 72 atm) @lost plinth

lost plinth
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idk

hardy forge
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why is every alchemist weird in the head

empty swallow
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dohn mheg machine broke?

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20min q

lost plinth
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same

quasi anchor
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oop

empty swallow
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ofc

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I go for a toilet break and q popped

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ayaya

hardy forge
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problem,i copied a crafting macro and apparently the game really does not like byregot's blessing

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when i do /ac "Byregot's Blessing" it says it doesnt exist,which i assume is caused by the 's since all the other /ac work

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apparently writing /micon -name- and then copypasting worked

lost plinth
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@empty swallow we had a pepega healer, a pepega dps, and after we replaced the pepega dps due to offline, we got yet another

📎 J5jGdJR.png
heady solstice
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I had a pepega healer on twinning the other day

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He was new so we kept wiping on the first boss

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But he didn't wipe to normal stuff
He stood in the fire

lost plinth
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'i can stand in the fire, the healer will heal me'

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logical paradox

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at one point the healer remarked that the tank was squishy asf

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his reply

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'me warrior'

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'me dps'

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'no mitigation'

neon hinge
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What

heady solstice
lost plinth
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all ima say

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is i saw the blm using fire 2

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and turned on act

heady solstice
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Then when we told him to stop standing in fire he threw a hissy fit and left

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O h n o

lost plinth
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wait really

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lmfao

heady solstice
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Yeah

lost plinth
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like if you haven't played blm fire 2 gets thrown off your literal hotbars at level 50

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you should never use it agaib

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did you screenshot that healer

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sounds like a riot

heady solstice
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Nah

lost plinth
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sad that

empty swallow
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I FELL

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NO

heady solstice
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One of the dps did friend request me though

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How did you fall

empty swallow
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I meant to jump to boss

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but the maze didn't let me

lost plinth
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🅱️onte failed the parkour omegalul

heady solstice
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AHAHAHHAHAH

lost plinth
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ffxiv doesn't work like that

heady solstice
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were you doing trust?

lost plinth
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EVERY jumping move just moves your hitbox along the floor

heady solstice
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Did you see thancred jump across?

lost plinth
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he ain't doin trusts

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healer looks promising

heady solstice
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Oh

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When I was doing that dungeon thancred scammed me so when I was doing on gnb I tried it then fell

lost plinth
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ryne shukuchis across as well

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and that's not how that works either

heady solstice
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Does she?

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I thought she just waddled across

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Like alphy does

lost plinth
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or maybe she does yeah

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Urianger flat out levitates across in a straight line

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and Alisaie sprints the whole track

heady solstice
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So does stola iirc

empty swallow
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Mannnnn

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I was doing so well the whole dungeon

heady solstice
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Mannnnnnnnn

empty swallow
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healer did a grand total of nothing dps

lost plinth
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what a hero

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wait like

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actually nothing?

empty swallow
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no he did like a few casts maybe

heady solstice
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Monte is the real loldrg hero

lost plinth
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also 🅱️onte i got drg to 80

empty swallow
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nice

heady solstice
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Monte is no longer worst drg

lost plinth
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frick you

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🅱️onte just looks like a saints' row character

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with a stick

hardy forge
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turns out,pressing abilities DURING the macro,does NOT interrupt the macro

lost plinth
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i do think monte needs the moogle lance to complete the look

hardy forge
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they've implemented it differently than wow then,since the macro queue is on a different thread

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in light of this i put "wait.9" instead of wait.3 so i can press tricks of the trade myself whenever it comes up

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real big brain hours

empty swallow
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🅱️onte just looks like a saints' row character
@lost plinth say it to my cockobo face

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lost plinth
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that i didn't know

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you still need the mogfork tho

empty swallow
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where get

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king moggle?

hardy forge
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ye i think it's the ARR moogleking weapons

lost plinth
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it's really just a black 3-pronged fork with a moogle on it

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the crafted version glows pink when drawn

heady solstice
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Moogle mogfork

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I have like 3 of them

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Had

empty swallow
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are these dogs or what

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go fetch

lost plinth
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well this is annoying

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i have a dress material, and it's of equal gil value to mist silk

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which is what i need

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just need to find someone willing to swap or wait for a 250k sale

heady solstice
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@empty swallow they're the bois from tactics

empty swallow
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whOmegaLUL

heady solstice
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ff tactics

empty swallow
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also I joined nitro gang evil

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my evil peepo has grown

heady solstice
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i miss tactics advanced

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https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Nu_mou @empty swallow

Final Fantasy Wiki
Nu mou

The nu mou are a race in the Final Fantasy series, primarily found in Ivalice but also in The First. The nu mou have canine features, bearing elongated faces and tails. Their ears, long and thick...

lost plinth
spring heath
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I am awake

lost plinth
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i also forgot to ask you to craft that one thing yesterday so that's my bad

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i hope-fully should have a second thing to craft, but i can't get the material yet

neat bone
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hi, where can i get the Wowhead news bot for my discord server pls?

lost plinth
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if I find a swap, or a sale, then sure

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For basic site related questions/feedback/suggestions regarding Wowhead.com

empty swallow
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why emu

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just

spring heath
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There's a prompt in the news channel for it tho

empty swallow
heady solstice
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^

spring heath
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Yeh

neat bone
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thx 😄

hardy forge
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why is there a fishboi in a pot

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@spring burrow explain yourself

heady solstice
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feeshboi

lost plinth
spice thistle
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Kekka dake da

hardy forge
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intel crying z.z

empty swallow
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||dude minfilia is such a robot||

hardy forge
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btw,i need 2 gyr abanian flour,and ALL the listings on MB are stacks of 99,ffs

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also the "lazy tax",raisins are on MB for 300g each,while they sell from a vendor for 5g

lost plinth
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tbh dafire

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i had a guy in my FC who literally just resold vendor things for quad the price

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and it kept working

hardy forge
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send it to him if you're in a shared discord

lost plinth
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got it

hardy forge
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meanwhile,my FC guildmaster just spent 3Million seals on CARBUNCLE LANTERNS

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W H Y

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@lost plinth @spring heath

lost plinth
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lmaooo

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idk

empty swallow
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that jump scare would've been scary

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if I wasn't busy eating

neon hinge
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lmao vendor stuff

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did anyone say Small Egg / Milk?

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lmao

spring heath
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Pffff

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basically

hardy forge
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Small egg during love is in the air

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5gold per egg

spring heath
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Or christmas

lost plinth
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need centurio seals

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so off to go annihilate some poor random rodent

empty swallow
heady solstice
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finally my retainer is 30 now i can get crystals

lost plinth
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i'm vaguely expecting one of 🅱️onte's scarily hugebrain callouts by now

heady solstice
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||aardvark bord||

empty swallow
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I switched off my brain today

heady solstice
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now his ff14 brain is on

empty swallow
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yeah just focusing on story

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not predicting

spring heath
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BABY

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FRIEND

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PAL

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PRECIOUS

lost plinth
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well you're mere hours away from falalalala 45 minutes so

empty swallow
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Although my idea of ||the reflection of ardbert being me or some shit is still being somewhat right for now||

heady solstice
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emu what

spring heath
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You'll see

empty swallow
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mere hours

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45 minutes or so

heady solstice
spring heath
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Well if they take a break then the mere hours is possible

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Don't judge Emu

empty swallow
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no break today

heady solstice
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a mere 45 hours away

empty swallow
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I made a doge promise

heady solstice
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mameshiba promise

empty swallow
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hai desu AYAYA

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alright brb meeting titania

lost plinth
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no context, just y'know

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y'all know what you did

heady solstice
spring heath
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baby

empty swallow
heady solstice
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gl

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have fun wiping

lost plinth
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falalalala

empty swallow
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I mean I havent found any boosted friends yet

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😦

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I've always been the newest player in all my dungeons from what I could tell

heady solstice
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buy a boost and become your own friend

lost plinth
empty swallow
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I did holminster twice just to find someone

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and level a bit

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Close to 76 evil raiden thrust

heady solstice
empty swallow
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I'd probably be 80 by now if I used actions more

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I've been too lazy to activate or buy new ones

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Last time I activated both was a week and a half ago lol

lost plinth
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raiden thrust is secretly just a move where you launch across the screen screaming gibberish

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or is that too obscure a reference even for here

empty swallow
heady solstice
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tittyania

empty swallow
heady solstice
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:3

lost plinth
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falalalala

empty swallow
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nvm they're in my group

spice thistle
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King Titania thats the name tho

empty swallow
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fml

hardy forge
heady solstice
empty swallow
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why do I have a really bad feeling

heady solstice
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critical mass is 100mil you poser

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"carry me"

hardy forge
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yes i know,i wanted to say "bonkers levels"

heady solstice
lost plinth
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monte, sit on limit break

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healers MAY need it

hardy forge
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when i was lvl DRK,i always stole LB3 as tank

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e.e

lost plinth
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you

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absolute madman

heady solstice
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absolute gamer

hardy forge
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hey at least no one died after it,it looks like "the blackest night" animation,but for the whole group

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aka (red/black sphere shield)

empty swallow
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boringg

hardy forge
empty swallow
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we 1shot it and I was 2nd dps, tied with the MCH for first basically anyway, kept giving him DS

hardy forge
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i wonder what he's doing in Uldah

empty swallow
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||he escaped the crystal tower monkaS||

hardy forge
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@lost plinth @spring heath @spice thistle

lost plinth
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i love the fuckin air quotes

spring heath
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lol

hardy forge
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he had a chef's apron btw

spring heath
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Now I await a G'raha Nuhn

neon hinge
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"

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"

hardy forge
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so collectable just means "craft the item with collectable on"?

empty swallow
hardy forge
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noice

spring heath
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They

spring burrow
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Queen

spring heath
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The Fae prefer King, tyvm

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;P

main dirge
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14 mil exp

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👀

spring burrow
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Oh you right they do

lost plinth
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this hat is half the size of hat child so i'm gonna have to see how i feel

empty swallow
heady solstice
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||its not like they can kill him||

empty swallow
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||I mean yeah, also do we call him emet or solus||

heady solstice
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||emet||

empty swallow
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I wanted the latter

heady solstice
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true

empty swallow
heady solstice
empty swallow
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So basically shadowbringers story is like this

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||Monte go kill lightwarden, monte meet important characters, monte go sleep in bed and talk with ardbert||

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epic

heady solstice
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Mayhaps

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||I can't wait until you get to the ran tika warden||

hardy forge
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L A H E E

lost plinth
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la HEE

main dirge
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la lee ho

empty swallow
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||Mannnnnn, I would love to be an ascian, just live my entire life fucking around with people||

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sounds great

heady solstice
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aha

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yeah

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|| he lacks critical information || monte no clicky

main dirge
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ascian = ascended asian?

hardy forge
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He ||Lacks critical information|| khadgarface

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Dont click

heady solstice
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||imagine being and ascian and getting wiped the fuck out||

empty swallow
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I clicked and my system32 is getting deleted

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wtf marcelo

heady solstice
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sorry

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sucks to suck

empty swallow
heady solstice
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it looks like hes holding oranges

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wtaf

empty swallow
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mannnn this music is a pain in the ass

spring heath
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I love that track wym

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it's GREAT

heady solstice
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L A H E E E E E E

lost plinth
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la HEE

hardy forge
spring burrow
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Beautiful

lost plinth
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@ the holm gang lmao

heady solstice
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LA HEE

lost plinth
hardy forge
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hat child's mog upgrade looks like any set where it's "basic B leveling gear" and the same set but "max level gear" kind of like relic weapons

spring heath
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I just healed for three sprout babies in Satasha

heady solstice
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did the tank have stance?

spring heath
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She did

heady solstice
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nice

hardy forge
crystal junco
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Y'shtola's thighs tho

heady solstice
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true

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true

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true

hardy forge
spring heath
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I did some advice/directing to inform about flanking damage and pointed the baby monk to attack from behind their target

hardy forge
lost plinth
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nice

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also wolf when you've got a moment free i've got everything for a craft

main dirge
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nice

hardy forge
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ayy doing PotD with the FC for the first time

spring heath
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Yeah I'm available

main dirge
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and I couldn't resist but to buy werewolf ears for glamour

lost plinth
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i'll come to you then

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can't world hop from kugane ree

main dirge
lost plinth
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they got the ears

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madman

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thanks wolf

spring heath
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^_^

lost plinth
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now to wait 10,000 years to get another mist silk

spring heath
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lol

lost plinth
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Funny thing is

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I have a dress material which is equal market value rn

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I just need to sell the bastard

spring heath
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What is it?

lost plinth
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'dress material'

spring heath
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...oh

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lul

main dirge
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is there a way to move hud elements by one pixel? only found out snap to grid with shift

spring heath
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YOU CAN SNAP TO GRID

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???

main dirge
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when holding shift

spring heath
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Anyway uhm I guess just take like 5 years microadjusting tbh

main dirge
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ouch

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been just trying to clean up mess I had

lost plinth
main dirge
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lol

spring burrow
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woot

lost plinth
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limping through highest available with leveling ast has been

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unfun

hardy forge
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the devs when making PotD "people feel good when they level up,they get that dopamine" .... "what if we made them lvl constantly?" ---"GENIUS!!"

main dirge
lost plinth
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does anyone have a single metallic gold lying around

heady solstice
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hate

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actually wait no

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that came out wrong

spring heath
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I have metallic gold on the MB I think

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lemme go look

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I do, it's still listed

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@lost plinth

lost plinth
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can i buy it off you? skip MB cut

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@spring heath

spring heath
lost plinth
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lmao

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idk the mb price rn

spring heath
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I got em for free tbh so I mean whatever you wanna give me idc

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I'm in queue but I'm at the plaza

lost plinth
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on the way

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10k okay?

spring heath
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just saw this

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but it's all gucci

hardy forge
lost plinth
spring heath
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😄

lost plinth
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someone on my friends list highlighted

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this is the perfect social distancing hat

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mask ✅

very wide brim ✅

spring heath
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lol

neon hinge
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yankie with no briiim

lost plinth
neon hinge
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😂

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Man, fucking Tik Tok xD

main dirge
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sao

lost plinth
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the fuck am i looking at?

spring heath
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Yeah, that's the Troupe ship

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You unlocked I think Orbonne and thus, that's there

lost plinth
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nope

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you really think i unlocked something

spring heath
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Well uhhh that's the troupe ship

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Pretty sure it shows up when you first hit 70 on something because that's when the unlock quest shows up

spice thistle
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...

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You unlocked Ivalice

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Ivalice's raids

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Stormblood lvl 70 raids

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Required for the artifact weapon

lost plinth
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i did not unlock that thing

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Ah

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that makes more sense

spring heath
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which I'll do in like four years I'm sure

spice thistle
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F

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imagine wolf having to unlock all the artifact weapons

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though

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its easy

spring heath
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I'll go as far as I feel like

spice thistle
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What about

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blu mage tho

main dirge
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After I get 50 lvl on Thaumaturge, I plan to try out Samurai

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now that I have also maid outfit which gives exp bonus til 30 lvl if wearing all pieces, I could be maid samurai

lost plinth
main dirge
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is that a kingdom hearts reference

hardy forge
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we got floor 50 in one run :p

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then we took a break

lost plinth
hardy forge
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noice,1-50 PotD and i got items to sell for 300k profit on mb

lost plinth
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wat get

hardy forge
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i got 2 minions + potd flooring

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my fc teammate got the baby opoopo

main dirge
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I got retainers called shortpotato and longpotato

lost plinth
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hat's growing on me

spring heath
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I love

lost plinth
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where does it think my ears are?

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actually i tell a lie

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this one is dead on

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vanya hat sucks

hardy forge
lost plinth
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pogpogpog

hardy forge
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(ixion and wolf)

spring heath
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\o/

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Noice

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Time to start hittin 30s can getting job stones

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Starting with Arcanist

lost plinth
spring heath
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\o/

lost plinth
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there's a few wvrs in my FC but less that i'd particularly put maps materials in the hands of

spring heath
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Why is that?

lost plinth
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dunno them as well lmao

spring heath
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Lol that's fair

lost plinth
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plus one I know got hella stingy with me once for not tipping them

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when i provided all the mats

spring heath
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I mean
I don't expect tipping, but it's usually appreciated

lost plinth
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like I would've if it wasn't such a small thing in the circumstance

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and usually i'd take an L but the fact they decided to chase me for crafting 3 rosewood lumber kinda makes me not wanna consult them again lul

spring heath
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omg

lost plinth
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and it was also the reason i started leveling crp/btn myself for house decorating that I knew I'd do within the month rather than consulting them for crafts

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which honestly i don't generally regret so thanks for that i suppose

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saved me probably 500k all said when i was decorating

spring heath
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Oh, my retainer brought me some Ironworks crafting pants

#

lists on MB

lost plinth
#

i've made 140k give or take off today's attempts to get mist silk

#

i'm waiting for the dress material to sell before pulling the plug and buying another mist silk

spring heath
#

oof it's like 400k here

lost plinth
#

I checked Malboro and it was 230k or so

#

I recall it being similar price of dress material

#

Thus my hope I could sell one and thus fund the other

spring heath
#

dress material is 205k here at cheapest

lost plinth
#

mm. i'm fine with fronting a ~70k difference, that's nothing at this point

#

my current quota has been taking whatever profits i make usually, buying maps, and trying to get unhiddens

#

Headslamming, waiting for 150k profits, and just buying unhiddens and hoping to at least break even

main dirge
lost plinth
#

didn't use thundercloud proc REEEEEE

main dirge
#

can't use on dead

lost plinth
#

and you probs realised but you can buy like 100 gysahl greens for pocket change

main dirge
lost plinth
#

not with that attitude you cant

main dirge
#

also I'll try to buy those, just did the quest

lost plinth
#

can i give you a black mage tip

#

remove scathe from your hotbars

#

and never think about it again

spring heath
#

lmao

lost plinth
#

no bo dy uses scathe

spring heath
#

Ha, joke's on you
I use Scathe

spring burrow
#

What does it even do?

lost plinth
#

Damage

main dirge
#

it's just instant spell with little damage

lost plinth
#

Chance to quad potency

#

it's the lazy option for movement

spring heath
lost plinth
#

whereas the galaxybrain option for movement is either figure out how not to move

#

or figure out how much this mechanic's gonna hit you anyway

spring heath
#

'Healer adjust'

main dirge
#

welp now got no quests below main scenario quest

lost plinth
#

realistically what'll help a lot with blm is fight knowledge

#

The less you have to move the better so consider position

#

Black mage's rotation will also change a lot so don't get too attached

main dirge
#

oki

lost plinth
#

And some level ranges have whack shit like at the minute I think the highest dps you can do in an aoe scenario is spam the fuck out of freeze and nothing else

#

ideally your rotation is ice til 3 umbral ice, fire III spam fire I til drained, freeze/blizzard III repeat

#

ice phase is also best time to refresh thunders

#

when you've unlocked enochian fire 4 and blizzard 4 it gets more interesting

main dirge
#

I have in case hotbar 3 ready

lost plinth
#

but always use fire III to transition from ice regen to fire burn, because that doesn't reset your umbral/astral stacks

#

I think I need 2 and a half bars for black mage

#

Although my bars aren't full cause the keybinds are random

#

Might be more like 2

#

Counting teleport sprint limit break tho

#

basically fire II will cease having a purpose once you have flare, blizzard I kinda already has little purpose but it becomes most useless when you have blizzard III

#

blizzard II was useless outta the gate

#

black mage is fuckin weird

main dirge
#

blizzard II is yikes

lost plinth
#

manafont and lucid dreaming are also a little niche but manafont will allow you to flare twice consecutively when you get it

#

and lucid will do the same, if you get lucky with its tick

spring heath
#

the sugarloaf hat is so frikkin silly onmiqo

spring heath
timber crag
#

bit offtopic but i just got a new screen and im wondering why my fps doesnt go above 30

#

would anyone be able to help?

urban kite
#

change the refresh rate

spring heath
#

Euuuuuuuuuugh I'm gonna need another chocobo onion soon

#

feck

spring heath
severe river
#

is that ff14

hardy forge
#

yes.

severe river
#

i've considered picking it up a couple of times

#

on the scale of 1-10, how grindy is it?

lost plinth
#

what do you consider WoW

#

@severe river

#

like, where would you put wow on that scale

neon hinge
#

That's a good question

hardy forge
#

good question,depends on the expac really,and if you're feeling minmaxing elitist or not

lost plinth
#

cause i'd be inclined to put XIV 2 or 3 below whatever the answer is

hardy forge
#

heh,the thing with 14 is,that you dont experience any kind of grind at all,unless you want to do raids

#

which then you have to grind tomestones

#

but other than that i dont think there's any grind

lost plinth
#

and even then that's not explicitly tedious, i'd say

neon hinge
#

So, like wow?

lost plinth
#

you just get it by doing other content

hardy forge
#

so,like artifact power <-<

neon hinge
#

Tho if you don't raid why are you even playing

lost plinth
#

it's like if WoW gave you coalescing visions by doing dungeon finder

hardy forge
#

i've seen people with all crafters at 80,and not a single dmg class over 50

#

O.O

lost plinth
#

obligatory 'ask wolf'

#

Or ask me, bruh i'm a mythic progresser in WoW and I see there's much more to XIV that happily occupies me besides chasing content

hardy forge
#

the idea of duty roulettes to bolster the queues of all dungeons

#

also mainly wow's problem,is with reward structure

#

not necessarily the content itself

#

especially in like legion or bfa,they pushed everyone to do content they didnt want to not stay behind

#

rather than provide accurate rewards for it

#

the only rewards outside of "progression" are pets/mounts/mogs and thats it,while 14's got a lot more variety in rewards

#

so they can do whatever they want for side features and make them rewarding regardless

lost plinth
#

the plants

hardy forge
#

noice

#

also wow doesnt have housing,so again another incredibly huge portion of possible rewards is cut out

lost plinth
#

xiv also keeps old content semi-relevant and highly enjoyable

#

while wow just cans that shit and forgets about it

hardy forge
#

that's a design issue

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

lost plinth
#

precisely, but still

hardy forge
#

the idea of the roulette sounds great on paper,but you know everyone will complain the fuck out of the forums

#

like "why do I have to deadmines on my lvl 120????""

#

or "my class feels shit as a lvl 20 wtf blizzard"

lost plinth
#

because WoW players are used to screeching at change/letting the casuls get what they have

#

we know this

neon hinge
#

What rewards xiv that wow doesn't?

#

And no housing is tragic

deft vapor
#

10:18 AM - Dafire: or "my class feels shit as a lvl 20 wtf blizzard"

stares at Timewalking

hardy forge
#

the entirety of housing basically,which is like 80% of side-activities rewards

#

<.<

lost plinth
#

also sela scroll up for hat child imagery

hardy forge
#

i mean,they could make a roulette system instead of dungeon finder,but idk how the community would receive it

lost plinth
#

inter, there's a whole side-system of gardening in housing

#

scan that

neon hinge
#

Yeah we already talked about crops the other day

lost plinth
#

oh? 'kay

neon hinge
#

Yeh

hardy forge
#

also yes,having the professions be more broad,like in 14,also is a GIGANTIC part of side-activity rewards

neon hinge
#

Crops in wow, mop, were shit

hardy forge
#

like literally all maps rewards are is crafting mats

lost plinth
#

xiv 'professions' makes a mockery of wow yeah

neon hinge
#

If you would have a garden in the city or wod citadel would be dope

#

But nah, let's get the garden very far from any major hub

hardy forge
#

the problem with blizzard atm and their design strategy,is that they have a mindset of "if it isnt the main focus,it isnt important"

#

so as professions got outclassed by raid gear

#

they became "abandoned"

neon hinge
#

Curious, since in Overwatch the mindset is "there can't be niche heroes" and it's hurting the game so much

lost plinth
#

because they're unable to keep up with the demand of the main focus audience as is

neon hinge
#

Yh crafting is only good before the first raid or so lol

lost plinth
#

in some utopian future where they can actually manage their time and get features out comfortably

#

then maybe that problem can be fixed

neon hinge
#

Bags tho delicious

lost plinth
#

now they're just struggling to push content in time to appeal to raider community

hardy forge
#

even in overwatch,their design strategy is "everything must be balanced for the lowest casual player"

lost plinth
#

hanzolul

neon hinge
#

?

#

What has hanzo to do with that lol

hardy forge
#

the fact there cant be niche heroes,proves they like too much having all heroes not be good in all situation

#

but thats factually impossible xd

lost plinth
#

obligatory hanzo main joke when someone mentions the lowest casual

#

i stopped playin when moira came out, i can't say shit

neon hinge
#

I don't get your joke but okay

hardy forge
#

think last time i played there was the black healer guy

neon hinge
#

Baptiste

hardy forge
#

i played it when it came out,i initially tried genji main,then came to terms that my aim with throwing stars was absolute garbage

#

so i went healer/tank main

neon hinge
#

I'm mostly full flex

urban kite
#

hanzo had arrows the size of trees at one point, basically auto-tracking arrows

hardy forge
#

oh i can play most heroes

urban kite
#

overwatch is a casuals wet dream

#

and its meant to be that way

neon hinge
#

It'd okay to be for casuals, but it's not when they're trying to make any héroe good in any situation for some reason

#

Even tho the game is designed around switching heros

lost plinth
#

I played mei

neon hinge
#

They're fucking dumb

hardy forge
#

they'd need a design supervisor thats not in their bubble on all their games

#

because they're trying to cater as much as possible to casuals(in all their games) while also trying to keep the elitists interested

neon hinge
#

And that's hard

hardy forge
#

the whole reason LFR exists is for casuals,the whole reason titanforging existed was for casuals,

neon hinge
#

The buffed bastion dude.

hardy forge
#

the whole reason attunements were cut out was for casuals because "muh raid"

neon hinge
#

For some reason they huffed a hero that dominates lower ranks and that nobody likes on higher ranks

lost plinth
#

Wait I'm sorry so Echo can fly, has an execute and shang tsung's soul steal?

neon hinge
#

Echo is busted by ddsgin

#

Because power creep

lost plinth
#

She can fucking fly but Mercy still just goes fwoosh?

neon hinge
#

Blizzard don't want to create a non op new hero

hardy forge
#

mercy can fly with her ultimate i think

neon hinge
#

So every new hero is the op

urban kite
#

mercy can / used to be able to fly, yes

hardy forge
#

also OP hero on launch creates a surge of player

#

then they can nerf it

neon hinge
#

They haven't nerf her yet

hardy forge
#

it's a technique the moba SMITE has been doing ever since it started

neon hinge
#

And it's been two months

hardy forge
#

and it keeps working

#

so why fix it

#

release new hero OP as shit,nerf her to normal levels after

#

i mean,it's not like blizzard doesnt have talented people working for them,look at the art/music and CG team carrying every game they've ever made

#

it's just (and i dont want to make false accusations or make any names)

#

that they're shackled by shareholders,so they have to cater as much as possible to casuals to get more money

#

so the design decisions they can make are very limited

#

even though someone in the office probably knows the best way forward

#

like look at that dumpster fire that was WC3:reforged refunded

#

TL:DR they have the skill and talent to be exceptional,but the design teams just arent trying,or they're trying for the wrong reasons

neon hinge
#

Or they can't try because the suits don't want to

urban kite
#

i dont think the shareholders or anyone will give a shit as long as they're making money

#

they won't be influencing any ideas

hardy forge
#

the problem is,they have activision looming over them not just shareholders

#

it's been stated how the chief financial officer of activision "visits" the blizzard offices quite often

#

also shareholders want "more" infinitely

neon hinge
#

Shareholders are destroying the gaming industry

#

With all the "MOOOOOORE"

hardy forge
#

thats quite the truth :p,they're destroying the entire economy more like

#

because infinite "more" isnt sustainable

neon hinge
#

top selling games not selling enough

#

it's just mental

hardy forge
#

you can see it with this recent epidemic

#

most companies even big ones had to close doors for safety(though most work from home)

#

and it's not like wall street/shareholders give a single shit there's a pandemic going on

#

-20% to your actions

#

(i meant the shares in the company)

deft vapor
#

they'll only pretend to care

#

just to make more money

urban kite
#

Shareholders are destroying the gaming industry
this comment alone is just.. dumb. there's no other way of putting it lmao

hardy forge
neon hinge
#

@urban kite Is not tho

#

Game devs are having to be more and more aggro on monetization

#

To please the shareholders overlords

urban kite
#

except that they;re not and you can clearly see that over the last 5 years or so

#

even the "dreaded" activision has cut down on it

#

its just completely misinformed and out of date

hardy forge
#

"cut down on it" --- "looks at lootbox legislations and lawsuits" ah yes

urban kite
#

from a good few years ago? ah yes

hardy forge
#

might i remind you EA tried to "fight the law"

#

in belgium

urban kite
#

a good few years ago? yes

#

please read

#

this is all out of date

hardy forge
#

it may be out of date,but only because we havent had any new scandals

#

not because it isnt happening anymore

urban kite
#

so you cling to anything just to make it relevant again?

deft vapor
#

but they still tried to fight the law just to keep lootboxes in a game

#

it's not the time of it that's important

hardy forge
#

they even tried to rebrand lootboxes as "surprise mechanics"

deft vapor
#

it's the principle behind it

neon hinge
#

If you really think shareholders don't only care about money lol

deft vapor
#

a gaming company fought a country's law JUST to keep lootboxes in, to make more money

hardy forge
#

if you're going with the "a good few years ago" argument,might i remind you something that happened last week about a certain company saying a subscription service is a "you get access to the game,and then you dont and have to pay again"

#

that's literally happened for real

deft vapor
#

or, hell, take a glance at F76... confirming no lootboxes. then lo and behold, there's code in the game (or some shit similar) where people found gasp.. lootboxes

#

and now the game has an extra subscription option

hardy forge
#

which is ludicrously priced too

neon hinge
#

Cmon guys, that's just old news

#

You can't cling on any old new for your argument

#

Try finding something of this week

#

smh

hardy forge
#

also might i remind you an interview with TODD HOWARD himself,saying "you put the game out there as it is,and then make it good later"

#

that's an actual fcn quote

#

on f76

neon hinge
#

Is it good yet? 😂

hardy forge
#

no 😂

deft vapor
#

give it 10 years

#

or give modders a way to mod in similar ways to skyrim/F4

hardy forge
#

the entire f76 shitstorm is too long to even count,one time they even asked banned players to write them an essay on why cheating was bad

#

AN ESSAY

urban kite
#

@neon hinge you miss the point entirely as per usual

deft vapor
neon hinge
#

I may be missing the point but at least I'm not defending the cancer of the economy my friend ❤️

urban kite
#

If you'd like to show me where then by all means

#

but, once again, you're missing the point

hardy forge
#

oh,since macho's back,might i mention how Take-Two interactive,refused to renew a deal with an indie game publisher(the one making kerbal space program) JUST so they would dry up funds,so Take-Two could assimilate them into the "family" rather than leave them independent

#

you starve a studio,just so you can absorb them into your company

#

and thats LAST WEEK

neon hinge
#

Yh they were aggresively poaching them devs on linkedin and the co

hardy forge
#

actually not true,17hrs ago

#

not last week

deft vapor
#

not even a full day ago

#

smh

hardy forge
#

"you cant use news that are more than 2 hrs old!!"

#

thats old news!!!

urban kite
#

there it is

#

gotta keep the circlejerk contained

neon hinge
#

How disconnected can one be from reality I wonder 😂

hardy forge
#

not to say,that in most triple A companies,like Naughty Dog,Bioware,Rockstar,EA,Epic Games,and a myriad of other billionaire companies in america

#

are abusing their workers to the point

#

THEY ARE HOSPITALIZED FROM STRESS

#

and it's been reported more than once

#

bioware even said it was their "bioware magic"

neon hinge
#

The fact that game devs don't have unions is just scary

hardy forge
#

because crunch 24/7 for months on end is healthy

#

also the companies always give the "we're not putting a gun to their head,smh" excuse

#

when they're literally doing that

#

just with threats of lower pay and getting fired

#

rather than an actual gun

#

even CDprojectRed is doing Crunch-culture to get cyberpunk out

deft vapor
#

and even that has been delayed already

hardy forge
#

and then companies like Naughty Dog and Rockstar go "it's because they're passionate"

#

while instead,it's just a peer-pressure net

#

of "people will look at me and judge me weird if i dont crunch like literally everyone else in the studio"

#

"they'll make me feel like i'm dragging the entire team down because i'm not working 6hrs after my shift ended"

neon hinge
#

Rockstar doesn't credit ppl for their work if they leave before the game is finished

hardy forge
#

not to say,that it's been scientifically proven that creative jobs,like yes game dev,are more creative and actually make good content

#

if they are rested

#

and not to say about Epic Games,where due to the boom that 🤢 ||fortnite|| 🤢 had

#

they had to put their workers on crunch-times for 2years straight

#

to release content quickly enough for the kids playing it

neon hinge
#

Yeah that's a problem

hardy forge
#

again,not to say of how "interns" and "QA testers" are treated in most of these companies using crunch

#

they're treated like a dirty washcloth,they're given the "promise" of being hired with an actual stable job at the company,but only if they break their back working as an unpaid or minimum wage intern

#

and if they refuse to overwork themselves,they're almost instantly disposed of(not killed xd)

#

and it's not "rumors" either,we have actual documentation of most of this stuff

severe river
#

@lost plinth maybe like a 7 or 8

lost plinth
#

4, then i'd say

deft vapor
#

now to wait and see what Macho will respond with PanPopcorn

severe river
#

i see

hardy forge
urban kite
#

kinda homophobic

neon hinge
#

Don't make me agre with the bear cmon

worn panther
#

It says 'dont click'... It was your own choice xD

hardy forge
#

as they say... ||shrek is love,shrek is life||

#

and if you dont get the reference,you havent been perusing the internet enough xd

worn panther
#

^ ^

urban kite
#

or just dont be homophobic

#

figured you'd be better than just straight up insults but alright

hardy forge
#

i mean it's pride month,everyone should be gay right khadgarface

worn panther
#

uh

deft vapor
#

oh shit lemme get the rainbow overlay KEKW

#

but oh wait

#

this ain't twitter

neon hinge
hardy forge
neon hinge
hardy forge
#

🤔

empty swallow
#

Wow dafire

#

disgusting behavior man

worn panther
#

Nah man

empty swallow
worn panther
#

He just changed

#

xD

#

That happens when you see a nice man

hardy forge
#

i'm going to go doge myself then,it's time

worn panther
#

:))

empty swallow
#

Stay fox

#

So I’m on 6 hours of sleep atm

#

Do I get up

neon hinge
#

Sleep less

lost plinth
#

i harvested the garden

empty swallow
#

I slept 13 hours yesterday inter

#

Lol

lost plinth
#

i expected a bit more but I got 2 eggplant wizard seeds and 1 tomato king seed

worn panther
#

13hr casual

lost plinth
#

going to buy soil

empty swallow
#

I sleep a lot if I don’t put alarms

hardy forge
#

since machobears says old news isnt news,i went with doge 2

empty swallow
#

What are we discussing

hardy forge
#

nothing really

deft vapor
#

we were discussing something, then Dafire meme'd Macho, and it derailed

empty swallow
#

Something

#

Sounds like a good discussion

deft vapor
empty swallow
neon hinge
hardy forge
#

you have a lot of friends,inter

neon hinge
#

(I only share good music sip)

hardy forge
#

i didnt expect that

neon hinge
#

right

empty swallow
#

Non-Stop pop FM

lost plinth
#

lmao

deft vapor
#

hol up people can have FRIENDS?

hardy forge
#

shocking,sela i KNOW!

empty swallow
#

Fucks sake

deft vapor
#

le gasp

empty swallow
#

When will the internet stop with the friends joke

hardy forge
#

when everyone has friends?

#

which is never

empty swallow
#

Who tf has no friends man

hardy forge
#

idk dude,surely someone has no friends e.e

empty swallow
#

Stop being weird and you’ll get some if you don’t

#

Cause there’s a reason nobody wants to be your friend

deft vapor
#

but being normal is boring

hardy forge
#

you see,thats the hard part,🅱️onte

empty swallow
#

There I solved the internet issue

#

I’ll have you know I capped out on facebook friends

hardy forge
#

facebook friends khadgarface

empty swallow
#

In like 2014 or some shit

#

5002

#

Or 5001

#

I don’t remember

#

Also what is that shitty ass lul man

hardy forge
#

we need @heady solstice in here

empty swallow
#

Don’t disrespect totalbiscuit

hardy forge
#

doges assemble

deft vapor
#

legit tho

#

fuck having 100+ friends

#

when you can have 3-5 that don't mind being weird

empty swallow
#

Online I have hundreds

deft vapor
#

makes it more fun

empty swallow
#

Irl my friend group is around 10-15

#

What’s weird to you tho

deft vapor
#

i don't even know anymore, i've embraced the weird

empty swallow
#

Yes but what is the weird

deft vapor
#

so 90% of the time in voice with friends i just meme or act like a dumbass

empty swallow
#

It might not be as weird as you think

#

Oh so you’re normal

hardy forge
#

normal e-e

lost plinth
empty swallow
#

People underestimate how normal it is to be a human

#

Ok brb food is ready and I haven’t gotten out of bed

deft vapor
#

i'm within "acceptable internet habitant parameters" KEKW

hardy forge
#

that mount looks like the one you get for getting all the wolves,but it isnt glowing,so its prob a recolor?

lost plinth
#

failed it

#

well that's sad

thorny lake
#

BLACK LIVES MATTER

deft vapor
#

lives matter PanPopcorn

neon hinge
#

Yeah but specially Black since those are the ones being systematically killed by American racism

#

Like

#

Just don't kill

#

tyvm

hardy forge
#

he's not even the most overpaid CEO in america

neon hinge
#

Kotick be like "I'm gonna fire over 2000 people because of money"

hardy forge
#

he's like rank 25 on the top 100 most overpaid CEO(compared to groundfloor employee)

#

i think EA's CEO is like rank 10

#

and thats not even talking about non-gaming industries

#

then the prices really skyrocket

#

In it, Activision Blizzard reveals that Robert Kotick was compensated to the tune of $30,122,896 during the financial year ending March 31st, 2020, which is 319 times the amount the median employee was paid

#

oh Y E A H

neon hinge
#

30 million, dude

hardy forge
#

the article's outlying how kotick "other" than his regular pay,gets a metric ton of "bonuses" and "extras" out of nowhere,which his other staff(even high tier executives) dont get

#

so basically he's artificially doubling his pay with "bonuses"

#

and if you think 30M is bad,just look at Andrew Wilson(EA's CEO) thats the real pepega

empty swallow
#

Is there a thing such as an underpaid CEO tho

hardy forge
#

no

#

i mean,nintendo (of japan) CEO cut his pay in half to not fire any employees when the Wii U flopped super hard

#

soo

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

neon hinge
#

i mean,nintendo (of japan) CEO cut his pay in half to not fire any employees when the Wii U flopped super hard
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeh Nintendo has bank to survive decades w/o any profit

hardy forge
#

doesnt mean he didnt still took the pay cut

#

imagine EA's CEO even coming a galaxy's length near the idea of that

neon hinge
#

I mean yeah he got the pay cut but it was more PR than necessity ^^"

hardy forge
#

can we really know tho 🤔

neon hinge
#

For those who are curious, a gaming magazine reported in 2014 that Nintendo possessed more than 812 billion yen in its bank accounts, which worked out to about $10.5 billion at that time.

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I think we can 😂

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i've seen at least 100 people with that fatter cat minion

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yes

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and for good reason

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Monte dont click or it deletes system32

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rip vulpera pic

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i've saved its legacy

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I still have the vulpera pic on my pc,just in case

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For now im waiting for marc to get on damn US times

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why is Gold Saucer a huge cactus

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i mean, cactuars have been a final fantasy staple since the early 90s