But if they keep adding actual features it will be fine
#no-wow-discussion
neon hinge
fresh osprey
I personally don’t care where my game is as long as it runs well and is fun
Apparently I’m crazy and servers aren’t planned
But I don’t think BL2 used steam servers
Apparently it’s P2P
So, should be essentially the same
fresh spear
im pretty sure BL2 used steam servers...
fresh osprey
Nope
Just looked it up to make sure
It uses the host of the world as the server
It used steam friend stuff to connect people
But Epic has that and an overhaul for that is planned with the next 4-6 months
Same with cloud saves and library changes and an overlay
Some of those might be sooner
fresh spear
ah nwm, i read it wrong, they never had dedicated servers, but they still have to connect to steam
fresh osprey
Yep
You might actually have LESS drm with epic
At least for this game and playing with friends
fresh spear
i havent used the mutiplayer feature in a few years, so wasnt sure
fresh osprey
Hopefully they integrate an internal friends list so epic and steam players can play together
fresh spear
you mean cross play? yeah...
neon hinge
yeah
fresh osprey
I like that they use trello
So far they’ve actually been ahead of schedule on a lot of those featuress
fresh spear
i dont play any epic games nor do i even have their launcher.
neon hinge
Okay
fresh osprey
I like the free games, and I’ve already accepted that my data will be taken ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Steam does the same shit
It’s the cost of free programs such as the internet
Don’t share anything you don’t want everyone to know
neon hinge
Steam hasn't had any data scandal yet right?
fresh osprey
Didn’t they have password problems pre-2fa?
fresh spear
i will wait to get the launcher until i get bl3
fresh osprey
Either way, most of the data stuff going around is kind of conspiracy level bullshit in that steam copies and reads the same files and has the same access to that stuff
neon hinge
I only have it open when I'm playing games from EGS
fresh osprey
Only time you should have any launcher open IMP
neon hinge
Same goes to uPlay and Origin
fresh osprey
IMO
fresh osprey
I don’t trust steam anymore than I trust any other program. It takes like 7 seconds to open and I don’t need them logging temporary browser data
neon hinge
It bothers me to type the 2fa everytime I open steam
fresh osprey
Epic has 2FA
neon hinge
My Steam doesn't somehow
fresh osprey
You have to set it in the settings
hardy forge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328992407645454337/563014016990052363/image0.png apparently this is a real shirt
hardy forge
this looks like a loading issue
lavish arrow
On all of my browsers
hardy forge
try clearling your browser's cache,close them and then try again
small wren
got that issue too
lavish arrow
Just now it reloaded to a proper state
visual pulsar
drawing i made for a friend. Kaldorei nightsaber licking draenei child
like mother lion grooming her kitten
hardy forge
The way the Eye Is drawn makes It look like the saber's tongue got Stuck to the hair,and the saber's like "dude,let go"
visual pulsar
lol
night lark
That feel when u saw YouTube comercial for Legion PServer 
lost plinth
seen it
fluid laurel
neon hinge
Make sure your notification settings are on point
fresh osprey
^
everyone ping isnt allowed
so its likely you didnt set up notifications correctly
spice thistle
what happened nao boi
neon hinge
"EGS helps the company, not the devs!"
They just said that
When we said devs (cuz you know people say devs to say company, right?) get better cuts on egs than on steam
spice thistle
Generation Z meets free market
spice thistle
Oh come on
neon hinge
Because of their dumbness
spice thistle
It's an every day thing
neon hinge
Why do GAMERS have to DEFEND a LAUNCHER
spice thistle
We had it on the war of consoles
neon hinge
They don't even have shares of it
spice thistle
It's not like a big deal
neon hinge
Except Consoles were expensive hardware
And launchers are 500MB of RAM
(that's Bethesda's btw, the more RAM consuming one)
spice thistle
Sadly I don't think those people are going to wait that much
spice thistle
The moment the crack is released they are going to crack
spice thistle
Yeah
spice thistle
yargg
neon hinge
(sorry but I'm not paying 30€ for a cartridge of pokémon ruby)
spice thistle
I do it because I don't really have the access to the old games anymore
but I brought them in the moment
so
Sticks out tongue
But yeah
It's like a dirty war now
If something is coming exclusively to EGS?
Crack it no matter what
neon hinge
and ppl talking like BL was own by Steam lol
"you're bringing BL3 to a third party launcher!"
Actual review on Steam.
spice thistle
nani
neon hinge
exactly.
spice thistle
and like
they know that the losses are going to be for the developing company, not the publishing one
spice thistle
For them its like
"We crack them, make BL to lose money so they learn to stop being idiots, the same with every company that choses EGS as their launcher"
A dirty war, as I said
neon hinge
Then all companies decide to not publish on Steam because they get reviewbombed if they dare to prefer a better deal 😂
That would be funny
AAA not being released on Steam, ever
because of idiots
neon hinge
Excep is a "war" that benefits the end user
In 6months EGS will be so close to Steam lmao
They seem to be investing all their fornitedollars on the store now
spice thistle
It's all about the hate
Like really
It's not about if EGS benefits someone
Its straight fanboyism and hate
neon hinge
yeah
muted thicket
Hello everyone quick question: I just returned to game after like 6-9 months and trying to improve my mage which is at 360 ilvl atm but cant find a guild or people is not allowing me to join to normal raids. What do ? (playing since cata.)
obsidian lion
@muted thicket i suggest reading the gearing up guide on wowhead, which is found under the leveling tab. Just pug it until your ilvl is high enough for people to allow you, if you enjoy raiding, i'd suggest raid finder BoD since you get 370 gear from it
muted thicket
@obsidian lion Will do. Ty for the tip !
But my luck is not that good with lfr drops lol.
lost plinth
this is probably the month bois
lemme get this straight
if joker releases while I am sleep
DM me 6 times, no more no less
6
that way I will know joker is released
lost plinth
thank you
ofc I'm putting off the concept this could be a Rosalina-travesty where my never-never gets added to Smash and is literally the bottomest tier you could go
lost plinth
Wheeeeeee gotta love it when Nana's AI fucks up and just wanders around while you die
Also whom the hell plays 75m online
lost plinth
I do kinda enjoy playing Daisy/peach now
mainly Daisy cause she's just so much more extra
It's odd cause I thought when Palutena was released I was gonna love her (cause Palutena in home game is absolute goddess of sass) but eh
also side taunt and back throw are a bit yikes
waxen frost
merry egret
Why is there only 1 audio option now?
I am having some audio issues where a sound is played loudly everywhere even when it happens across the map
fallen nexus
Yeah... let's not @silent escarp
visual pulsar
what a coincidence, i've been watching Portal 2 Let's Play's.
Also SPOILERS DUDE
@silent escarp
queen jacinth
Lol
silent escarp
Snape kills Dumbledore @visual pulsar
visual pulsar
You ass
visual pulsar
sigh I hate u
visual pulsar
is that Alan Davies?
hidden jungle
found a oddly true forum post while forum surfing https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/archvaldor-legality/143522
merry egret
😦
visual pulsar
waxen frost
violet fable
lost plinth
who's archvaldor anyway
copper granite
Never going to forgive them
silent escarp
Do it you pussy
lost plinth
God smash quickplay has some bullshit sometimes
every time I do it reminds me why you should only play arenas
lose GSP to some guy who sets 3mins, gets a point then spends the rest of the match trying to timeout
especially when Daisy has sod all options to stop a K.rool doing it
silent escarp
spring burrow
LMAO
keen hazel
intel 9th Gen
4-8 Core Processors
Supports Overclocking
Supports Up To
2 Graphics Cards
Dual Channel DDR4 Ram
$1791
f131 is that any good?
waxen frost
forest egret
Does making the leather common wrist makes any diff if I make it on 110 or 120?
spring burrow
No
They’ll always be a low ilvl cause they’re low green gear
The highest they can go is I think 233
forest egret
ty!
spring burrow
Your best best is to just grind it up to 150 fast so you can start working on the raid crafted pieces
forest egret
Why tho?
forest egret
But as disenchanting them
waxen frost
visual pulsar
forest egret
Is server hop broken? It doesn't find me any other server
waxen frost
silent escarp
fallen nexus
ocean wave
for those who like Borderlands, the Handsome Collection is incredibly cheap on steam right now
fresh spear
Its been incredible cheap for at least a week now. i bought it all for 13£
visual pulsar
That’s the price of 1 month of WoW time
fresh spear
pretty much. been playing bl2 for about 20h since that collection came out, both on my main and on one of the dlc characters
low coyote
so the F thing came from here. what is this game? feels like a shooter
low coyote
indeed. that text font is very COD
silent escarp
just try and stop me @visual pulsar
lost plinth
@low coyote It's not 3, it's Advanced Warfare. my bad.
low coyote
still the font is very COD
lost plinth
...yes. that's cause it is
spring burrow
Its call of duty advanced warfare
waxen frost
William Blake
lost plinth
Also if anyone wants some food for thought find a recording of a live performance of sicko mode and see how much Travis Scott uses autotune
haughty topaz
https://twitter.com/ChrisMetzen/status/1115518135673614337
https://twitter.com/scottjohnson/status/1115339066470359040
Twitter
hollow osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyGGLB542ks&t=1m58s Two weeks peeps. #WhatEverItTakes
neon hinge
I can't wait until I start banhammering all the trolls spoiling the movie :)
waxen frost
spice thistle
Dis be pretty
timber crag
OwO
lost plinth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCF0lbqCWl8 something is wrong with me... think I only dropped about 6 in this
didn't get Contra, didn't get Kingdom Hearts or Fortnite, and didn't get some of the strange/anime stuff at the end
very nearly missed DK:C and mario galaxy which would've made me commit sudoku
lost plinth
it kinda goes chronological tbh
except some anime stuff I've literally never heard of at the end
and Jak and Daxster, which I'm vaguely aware of its existence
slowly realising the Persona ones I got instantly and know the words to will fall into 'anime stuff I've never heard of' to most people
I do consider it a badge of honor that Fortnite's theme was completely lost on me
ocean wave
i missed Super Mario RPG, Punch-Out, Metrioid, Kingdom Hearts, Goat Simulator, Uncharted, NBA Jam and everything after Ratchet and Clank
except Persona 5
lost plinth
Goat sim I was depressed I got
SMRPG took me a second cause I knew it but not where it was from
same with punch out
Kingdom Hearts was a flying guess
I nearly missed the Doom one cause I just thought it was master of puppets
which it very nearly is tbh
ocean wave
i almost didn't get most of nintendo stuff
spice thistle
This dragon is fat as fuck
copper granite
Does anyone know any working disconnect macros?
Nvm using windowed mode and pressing the X to close the window pretty much does the thing
next oasis
when you feel like your god
spice thistle
Loved that one
visual pulsar
My adventure in my RP server has art! They're going on a journey
neon hinge
@next oasis game?
random heron
next oasis
@neon hinge Assassin creeeeeeeed blacccccccc flagggg
silent escarp
People laughing about Darkmoon faire actually being the idea of N'zoth
But is it really a coincidence that the Darkmoon is up during these events starting?
silent escarp
waxen frost
normal briar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzYW5DZoWs star wars 9 teaser
normal briar
i am irl deaf but i saw in comment. most of ppl say it is Palpatine laugh at end when ppl see to some broke of death star
so it seems like Palpatine still is alive
he was only faffling in hole. but he still can be alive.. when darth vader throw him into hole.
lost plinth
people have survived worse in star wars
spice thistle
novel tiger
spring burrow
thats a sexy desk
tough escarp
And people claim it's hard to find a guild in this game... 
timber crag
I wish I'd had the presence of mind to join this Discord sooner. I noticed the oddity last night regarding the Live version of wowhead discussed in #wowhead-feedback-support but I didn't consider that it might not be my end as I was able to find a workaround - I linked to the ptr variant of the article on Mining that I needed at the time. "Togra_blahYesterday at 11:33 PM
Naw. Don't even need a mining pick, these days. Besides, that's not where you find it! https://ptr.wowhead.com/guide=2437/mining-guide#блок-gold-ore - note that the Live page on wowhead isn't working for me currently - the ptr in the url after the https and b4 the wowhead is the only way I was able to get the page to load properly. Possibly site maintenance? Not sure." Oh, also, is this the correct channel for this type of content? I do love wowhead and I try (perhaps a tad too hard at times) to keep text where it's supposed to go. 😃
timber crag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUUmadPI35Y starting at 2:25 thru about 2:45. Who is brave enough to take the bait and join Voice Chat? 😁 Am I the fisherman, the small fish, or the shark? 😃 Note that I am not trying to imply I am Moriarty or Holmes.
timber crag
(edited adjustment based on suggestion from Thulm) @polar arch (edited update) I managed to join the wrong Jeeves Bot's Discord Server for Support earlier today when I originally tagged you in this message, Deadlystrike. I moved what I could to the correct Jeeves Bot's Discord Server for Support and re-took any screenshots that I had to in the process. If I can provide any further information, just ask. 😃
visual pulsar
so what do you wanna talk about?
timber crag
Lol. Nothing really. I just think it's goofy that so many Discord Servers have well-configured Voice Channels that go unused 99% of the time, I guess.
visual pulsar
fallen nexus
@timber crag I just saw this, otherwise I would have pinged @polar arch
timber crag
@fallen nexus Just for my clarification, did I do anything wrong? I try to keep my text in the correct channels.
@timber crag You're all good. I assume the person he refered to is a Discord staff member.
@timber crag Ah, ok. Thank you.
visual pulsar
yeah i think its the very first user
his tag has the number #0001
or just coincidence?
timber crag
Honestly? I have no idea.
visual pulsar
lol
fallen nexus
But no, Deadlystrike is the creator of Jeeves.
visual pulsar
oh
timber crag
'T was one or the other.
Ah! Thanks, Thulm. (edited adjustment - I actually somehow managed to join the wrong Jeeves Bot's Discord Server for Support earlier today. I have since done my best to move the information to, hopefully, the correct location.) 😃
fallen nexus
No problem!
timber crag
Hmm. Does anyone know offhand if the !lookup command on Jeeves is disabled here? Just curious. I've been having a few oddities in relation to the Jeeves bot, but !lookup is working for me as expected on his Support Discord Server. Not here, however. I will continue to look into other venues to find an answer, but I (correction: grammar) am hoping that asking here (correction: sentence structure) in the meantime is acceptable. 😃 (update: I was unable to determine the exact causality for the Jeeves Bot not accepting !lookup command here on wowhead's Discord Server within the #bot-commands channel - not a big deal, but it did pique my interest. If anyone can shed any light on this small mystery, I would appreciate it.)
polar arch
timber crag
Oh. Sorry, Deadly. I tried to only ping you once. My apologies if that was in excess.
fallen nexus
@timber crag don’t worry, he’s all bark, no bite.
@polar arch
@polar arch
@polar arch
@polar arch
@polar arch
timber crag
@fallen nexus You are a meanie! 😢 Give the poor man a break! He's probably hard at work looking into the !lookup oddity I mentioned and he already fixed the !help one! 😃
fallen nexus
?ping
vagrant muskBOT
@fallen nexus, This server has restricted usage of commands to: #bot-commands
fallen nexus
There you go. ? Is your prefix.
timber crag
I actually tried it. I will try again.
Ah, maybe you're right! I may have done !lookup by mistake. Good catch. Thanks, @fallen nexus . 😃
timber crag
Very cool. I'm actually rather 😳 that I most likely did !lookup without recognizing that Jeeves' prefix command here on wowhead is clearly, as you say, ?. Oh well. Just as a random note, within that documentation, I didn't immediately see a mention of using ? as a replacement. I'll keep looking. Probably under the admin section which I did not browse yet. 😃
fallen nexus
timber crag
Welp found this and thought it was kinda cute.
Roses are red
Suramar is blue
Stars in the night
Has fallen for you
If we survive tonight
I may have nightfallen for you
But if we die soon
I’ve only fel
For you.
waxen frost
Perfectia's New Hairstyle
timber crag
@regal horizon Ok. From the reddit page with that quote. I will point you to the first section that looked to be more along my particular line thought. https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/comments/1v7f6l/stand_in_the_ashes_of_a_trillion_dead_souls_and/cepl6ge/ thoughts?
regal horizon
I'd rather win dishonorable and survive than lose honorably and die. I'd rather the Horde survive and carve its existence with blood than letting it crumble, because of petty honor.
timber crag
Ok, within the scope of a video game in which the consequences of losing 1/2 factions would be catastrophic, I admit, I agree.
spring burrow
Isn’t honor like, what drives the horde?
timber crag
It has always been a factor, imo, yes. How else would such a diverse crowd stand together?
spring burrow
“Strength and honor” the main quote said by almost every orc npc
timber crag
It is not, however, the United Races of Orcs Above All. Diversity.
regal horizon
Victory or Death.
timber crag
Death before Dishonor?
timber crag
Well, that stance might be affected by one's particular point of view. Would I be out of line linking to a youtube video here? It's an old Star Wars Robot Chicken clip.
spring burrow
Idk if robot chicken is a good point of reference
timber crag
I suppose perhaps not. I thought they did a rather good job on the Star Wars section. In general, however, I was not a huge fan of Robot Chicken.
Very well, I will refrain. Let me, instead, use a quote. https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-phrase-death-is-only-the-beginning-mean . Let us not forget the many Night Elven Rangers raised as undead by Sylvanas.
timber crag
Willingly, I suppose I can accept that label, true. Without spoilers, however, I struggle to justify another specific instance of raising a "particular someone" as undead. 😛
regal horizon
It is canon that the Valkyr can not rez unwilling souls.
spring burrow
Yes but then sylvanas was gonna break his free will
regal horizon
So Dereks soul had to have been willing to be raised.
spring burrow
And make him kill his family
regal horizon
I was okay with this.
timber crag
The raising part, ok. Clearly he had some unfinished business and I could see him being willing to be raised. I am not the fictional character, nor am I involved in any of the official lore, so I cannot say for certain. From where I stand, raising, probably fine. The other part, the breaking of free will, I wasn't so happy about.
spring burrow
Most people aren’t happy about it
timber crag
I wonder, though. How big a divide? I struggle to justify the line of thought wherein free will being broken is a good idea.
Do not make me bust out a youtube clip of Bruce Almighty. 😛
timber crag
How did you make it start at that point in the video, @silent escarp "? I started right near the end - maybe I miss-clicked, but I'm not sure. Interesting.
silent escarp
Start the video, go to a certain time. Then right click @timber crag
timber crag
AHA! I always end up adding text about, "From time tt:tt:tt to tt:tt:tt" lol. I'll have to try that!
hardy forge
waxen frost
You can be offended now
visual pulsar
timber crag
@full adder within the #bot-commands channel, if you are wanting Jeeves to provide the incursion data for us or eu, the commands are, respectively, ?invasion us and ?invasion eu
full adder
kk thanks
crisp turret
all the stained glass is gone, one of the spires collapsed, the roof is gone, the entirety of the inside is in flames
earnest sky
It's probably lost
neon hinge
yeah most likely the whole building is gone
Bright side, building and art is all digitalized already
So is not as bad as it could have been
timber crag
......
fresh osprey
I bet they rebuild
neon hinge
yeah, would be a good choice
timber crag
I tend to agree, @fresh osprey . I hope the new one, if made, is even better than the last. Though I have little to go on in terms of how good the old one was other than from the animated Disney film about the Hunchback of Notre Dame. 😃
fresh osprey
apparently all works of art, the treasurey, and relics have been safely extracted
timber crag
Thank goodness. Some things cannot be replaced. Even some "things" are just unique.
neon hinge
yep
timber crag
Ah here we are. https://web.archive.org/web/20160527163447/http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001459/quotes Specifically, as seen in this screenshot.
fresh osprey
hardy forge
I went there around 4 years ago,
So i'll Remember the original 👀
neon hinge
It's a lot of wood mate
limber acorn
I thought it was made from stone or something like that
fresh osprey
the stone has to be supported
it was built 800 years ago
the entire inside was held up with wood
neon hinge
It finished building 800 years ago
limber acorn
Ah okay
fresh osprey
and we have scans that will allow a full rebuild
but recreating the frescos and stained glass is probably not possible
maybe with 3d printing?
neon hinge
dunnow
fresh osprey
complex scans have been done on every piece of art
its possible
but it probably wont happen
limber acorn
Do they know what caused the fire?
I thought the French minister said that it was safe now
fresh osprey
the roof work
thats the current theory
"Reuters news agency is quoting an official with the French firefighting team as saying: "We can now say that the structure of Notre-Dame has been saved from total destruction".
AFP is also reporting that the main structure has been "saved and preserved", citing an official."
silent escarp
Zeppelin there just to give some free heat into the fireplace
Horde really doing God's work
❤
mystic dune
neon hinge
roof is almost gone though
As in, could collapse anytime
Tho officers have ensured it won't
timber crag
That. Strikes me as odd, JHock. Oh. You somehow cheated the system, I assume? Maybe I'm misreading it. I know there are ways to trick the GPS in stuff like that, but not really my area. 😛
timber crag
There is insufficient data to support (edit - correction) nor contest that conclusion. I was merely curious.
spring burrow
I’ve had her since the end of last year as my buddy. It just took forever to get the candies
No cheating involved
timber crag
Very well, I redact my "cheating" statement. I meant more "gaming the system" anyway. However, not knowing the UI of that game as very well, I still have insufficient data from my limited perspective to ascertain that you did that since last year. I note the similar timestamps on the phone as well as phone charge numbers in the first two screenshots. (edited addition) Hmm. Candies, eh? Some form of pay2win/RL currency thing? I know of Rare Candies from the days of red/blue/yellow. I just didn't know they still existed.
spring burrow
Never played this game have you🤔
timber crag
You are quite correct. 😃
spring burrow
Ok so candies are how you evolve pokemon in this game. You get them from either catching them, or making them a “buddy”
As a buddy, after walking a certain distance they find a candy
It needed 100 candies to evolve
So it took months of walking
timber crag
I mean, I don't have a terribly vested interest in Pokemon anymore, but I salute your efforts! Walking is good. 😃
spring burrow
This game is nothing like the main pokemon games
spring burrow
Ye
timber crag
Oh. I don't mean to diss the series. I simply am not that interested in it anymore, that's all. Personal preference vs overarching assessment of product line.
spice thistle
Got this one from a box
spring burrow
Noice!
lost plinth
Can someone link me a laptop that's capable of smoothly running wow in the 500-800 pricerange
Nothing else is relevant
visual pulsar
Lol
I’d say my MacBookPro, but nvm that
It’s a model from 2011 and the graphics card is outdated for BfA
Reason I can’t play WoW on my home computer anymore
Gotta use my brother’s broken screen’d laptop
Only way to see on that is to connect to different screen
tough escarp
I got my wife a HP Omen 17 and it runs wow pretty well ... but I guess that's slightly above your price range -.-
timber crag
@lost plinth I don't do Laptops, sorry - not my area. Desktops, I could look into, but laptops aren't my thing. You're trading cost efficiency in relation to core statistics for form factor. Unless you're going to be taking it here, there and everywhere to play games, I tend to strongly recommend a Desktop. You'll get better stats for your price range. 😃
timber crag
Are we really going there? :/
tough escarp
no not really
fresh osprey
@dawn seal that’s not funny. It’s actually really disrespectful and rude
timber crag
I tend to agree with peach, for whatever it's worth.
dawn seal
I'm french. And I much rather would laugh about it than cry
Hence the dark humour
Although I understand its not everyone's taste
timber crag
I mean, I can understand that, to a point, but isn't it kind of rubbing it in the faces of any Horde who are already disgusted by their Faction's behavior in relation to the actions at Teldrassil? I mean, let's face it, one is RL, one is a video game. Lives AND art were lost in the video game. Afaik, only the ceiling painting was lost in the fire irl. Meh. I suppose everyone's stance is their own, but from where I stand, that's asking to incite a riot. I don't see either faction of players finding it particularly amusing, in general, but I have no hard data to back up my opinion. 😃
neon hinge
Is just a place, not a live
Relax bois
They're not making fun of some dead kid, to say an example
Let the París people mourn the way it fits more for them
timber crag
Fair enough, Inter. I will try to hold my tongue. 😃
silent escarp
deft thunder
@lost plinth in a meeting right now, when I'm out I'll go have a gander
Just to be sure, and to set expectations, what does "running wow" mean to you and what screen size would you prefer
tough escarp
From what I hear today the fire wasn't as big of a catastrophe as it could have been. The main structure is gone, they lost some art and windows and of course the roof got rekt...
But such things happen and this will be kown in the history books as the fire of 2019.
They will rebuild the roof, reconstruct the art and windows and this cathedral will be standing there for another 900 years with a modern and more fire resistant roof.
So I wouldn't worry too much about his. We should be thankful that nobody died in this inferno and only three people were injured.
lost plinth
@deft thunder Literally no other preference. As long as it can run wow at 30 at like, above setting 5 in raid environments
it's for my mom
her PC is not suited to running wow
and all she does other than that on it is web browsing
she said that today in darkshore she came third and if her pc didn't run at 5 fps she could've come second
I'm on a razer blade pro and that runs smooth as hell but that's obviously outta price range
tough escarp
@neon hinge I know 1 fire fighter got seriously injured by smoke. The other 2 injuries I'm not sure if they were fighters as well - but I assume so.
deft thunder
@lost plinth kk. Does your mother have a screen size preference?
as in, 13", 15", 17", you know
10eur over budget
jaunty heron
Hello, I'm looking for an English native speaker, I need some help with grammar details on a CV
lost plinth
@jaunty heron let me know, if you want
Can I just highlight
That amazon page
Says its perfect for playing 'FORTINE'
timber crag
Really? Isn't the game Fortnite? I don't play it, but I thought that was its namesake.
deft thunder
@lost plinth it's what people know these days
I've had an entire morning full of meetings with sales/marketing types today
I can relate
lost plinth
That seemed to pass muster with my mother. Thanks
deft thunder
Anytime
timber crag
The discussion in #beta-ptr-spoilers gives me an urge to compare internet speeds. Anyone here got north of 300 MegaBITs/sec? That's 37.5 MegaBytes/s, according to an online conversion thingy.
neon hinge
I'm at 120/120
Some friends have 600/600
It depends on how much you want to pay
X)
timber crag
Daaang. 120 Mbits or MBytes? (corrected my uh large magnitude of error there lol)
timber crag
Nice! 600/600 that's like two simultaneous streams of 600, yes?
neon hinge
download and upload
timber crag
Whaaaaat? 600 upload? That's got to be pretty pricy lol. Well, plus not much use for the average joe user, but eh. 😃
timber crag
Monthly? Is it one of those "locked-in" deals? That seems pretty darn good to me! What is that, about $42 or so? (edit) Closer to $43, my mistake.
timber crag
Nice. We have one of those double-play or whatever things - Internet and Cable TV. I think we pay for a better Internet package than we need, but eh, not being the one to make the call. 🤷
neon hinge
yeah, cable TV is still expensive here
xD
Worry not
Only our Internet is decently priced
timber crag
Ah, so maybe we're on target for our net package it's just the silly Cable TV that's causing the spike in price. Hadn't considered that possibility. The only trick is the splitter. We use a Tap splitter so most of the data from the street's cable goes to the Modem, only the Tap goes to the Cable TV Box thingy.
neon hinge
The problem with your pricing is the monopoly most ISP have
Here I have, anywhere with Fiber, at least 3 major ISP
and a wild variety of smaller ones
timber crag
It was interesting to learn that "open" endpoints for that cable from the street, the name of which escapes me, are actually very bad for connection quality. Something about noise/signal degradation.
neon hinge
yeah my in laws have your cable internet tv thing
Is not fun
Sometimes Netflix makes the TV to lag
lol
And viceversa
It's just 
why even
timber crag
Ah. I could see it. Have they explored the options for a Tap splitter? Have they capped off or physically rerouted any unused endpoints of that (ok, I finally had to look it up) Coaxial cable from the street?
timber crag
It's fun stuff. I could probably find some examples. Lol.
neon hinge
We don't live with them so it only lags, if it lags at all, in Summer or Winter holidays
And nah
They have pure fiber
I'm the one with fiber on street and then coaxial to my cablemodem router combo X)
timber crag
Oh. Neat! Still, splits are bad. Just like with hair. 😛
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/170887527196-0-1/s-l1000.jpg This is an example of something you can use if the original house had something like this second image in it, but you aren't using the split-off(s) at their endpoint(s): https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/390986327298-0-1/s-l1000.jpg We had a straight-up one to two splitter in the wall in the garage. Kinda hard to access. But after replacing it with a one to one, it significantly reduced signal noise and improved overall connection quality. Sorry to go full-geek. 😁
neon hinge
I have a splitter for the coaxial for my TV
timber crag
Tap or straight 50/50?
neon hinge
(not the same coaxial than for my cablemodem)
i dont know
is behind furniture
let me try if I can see it
timber crag
Sounds to me, based on my limited data, that you have a straight 50/50 split somewhere and half the data is going to TV Cable Box, half to Modem?
neon hinge
nah, too heavy
nah
the Internet one came later
the ISP installed it for me when I moved here
It comes from the roof
The TV one is embeded inside the wall
timber crag
Oh. Separate connections from the street?
timber crag
Oh. So you have an old coax that could go to a TV Cable Box (unused/splits/from street data irrelevant) and a separate connection - from the street, installed by ISP, that handles your Internet, then?
neon hinge
It goes straight to my TV
well, to my TDT recorder
But yeah
Perhaps my coax is not a coax but an antenna
I'm only good with computer related stuff
TVs and printers are not my friends 😂
timber crag
Ah. I've had to expand my horizons, a little bit. I'm the house "general tech support" guy lol. I don't love phones, but other than that, it's usually "my area" one way or another. 😁
neon hinge
Since the TV works it's just 🤷
I didn't need to bother with it
I plugged the Ethernet wire
the power cord
And the SCART from my TDT recorder
And of course the hdmi for the pc and consoles
it's basically a monitor by now 😂
I find it odd to run on scart though
wait a sec..
timber crag
Pfft. "not your friends", eh? Now you're outside the scope of my TV'ish knowledge. 😁
neon hinge
ok, my bad
it's hdmi from tdt recorder to tv
PLUS
It outputs the antenna signal
So I can either watch TV from the TDT recorder or use the inbuilt TDT on my TV
(I hope TDT is not an euro thing...)
timber crag
I don't know. I'll go look it up. Interesting.
timber crag
Wait. You manage a TV station? No. That looks like extremely dated wireless TV Signal Deployment tech?
timber crag
I landed on the wrong area. I see. Some larger metropolitan areas here in the US seem to use something like that, too? I've just used Cable so long lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition_in_the_United_States this looks to be somewhat relevant. Not my area - I don't watch much TV or YouTube, in general. 😃
neon hinge
I never liked paying for TV tbh 😂
timber crag
I mean, often times you can make do with a Streaming Service like Amazon Prime via that Amazon Fire HDMI thingy. Unless you start nearing your data cap.
neon hinge
hm... yeah...
I don't like data caps either
So we don't have caps
Just on mobile data
Which you can get unlimited too if you're willing to pay
timber crag
Wait. Your ISP has no data cap? Does. Not Compute. Error. Error. Shutting down.
neon hinge
I don't think any ISP, actual House Internet I mean, has data cap
timber crag
I believe Xfinity, formerly Comcast, caps at slightly north of 1 TB Monthly. Cap is perhaps the wrong term, however?
neon hinge
why wrong?
timber crag
Because they just charge you extra. It's not like a limit. It's the "allowed within your current plan". They also have a data meter and a few courtesy months. 😃
waxen frost
Not my best work. Still trying to figure out these tombow pens
fervent dome
timber crag
Ok. I'm guessing this is the best place to post about PC stats. While not going into the exact specifics (ok, I lied, I do go into it a bit), I'm running a pretty Horde-core gaming rig, afaik. I have disabled as many Windows build-in services/etc as possible - to the "barebones" - in order to reduce background resource usage. I have wiped, as best I can, all the Storage Drives (SSD with WoW, 1TB HDD for Storage, 1 internal USB drive with factory drivers which I also formatted because W10 doesn't need it - bloatware, be gone). I have 12 GB of RAM (probably my worst stat - should have opted for at least 16 GB - may increase it later, but not worried about it yet). GTX 1070 with 8GB RAM. CPU is in i7 8700 with stock speed of 3.2 GHz that ramps up over 5 GHz sometimes, unless I forcibly prevent it (which I have stopped doing as temperatures have not gone into the danger zone). 6 Cores, 12 Logical processors. How am I dropping under 30 FPS with reasonably, well, reasonable settings in some specific fights? I discussed some of it previously in another channel, but I'm curious as to anyone's input.
deft vapor
like peach said initially before you asked here aswell, lowering Particle Density should help things, aswell as lowering Shadow quality, environmental sliders (View Distance, environment detail, ground clutter) and maybe Projected Textures
atleast it's what I imagine has the biggest impact during fights
timber crag
Ok. I saw peach also mentioned that Details! was possibly a factor. Could you elaborate on that a little?
timber crag
Right. Engine is always a factor to consider. What damage meter do you personally recommend, peach? If any. I'm kinda partial to Details just because I love all the settings 🤤.
deft vapor
yeah, should also clear the data Details has gathered during raids, since it can pretty quickly make things turn.. choppy when playing, from what I've noticed
deft vapor
like let's say wipe the data every 2 or 3 bossfights
timber crag
I do manual and have configured auto-deletion of sections to a point I am happy with in Details. I'm mostly interested in the balance between accurate dps measurement vs performance hit.
Eh. I guess I'll have to reconsider. I do love the variety of options to configure in Details, but if I'm taking too severe of a performance hit, I'm not like dead-set on getting picture-perfect dps measurement.
deft vapor
there's also a thing where having too many addons in addition to having lots of spells flying/cast can make the game "angry"
deft vapor
ofc tho idk how many you got enabled
timber crag
Now, I did try Skada and it was a bit of a fight between it and Recount for a while, from my understanding of things, in those two most relevant sections: performance hit and accurate measurement.
deft vapor
another thing is that there may be some sort of UI addon that's messing with things, as I noticed Zperl's raidframes doing with my Monk, but not my Paladin (yet normal groupframes were fine from Zperl on monk)
timber crag
I could get you a list of my addons. One moment.
Ok, two screenshots covers my lot of addons. Page 1:
And page two:
neon hinge
slaps @lost plinth even harder
https://twitter.com/MysticDistance/status/1118319672800182274
spice thistle
karmic portal
Anyone remember City of Heroes? https://www.pcgamer.com/a-fully-functioning-city-of-heroes-private-server-has-somehow-been-kept-secret-for-six-years/
ocean wave
hardy forge
cant wait for people to abuse "looking cool joker" taunt from morgana to trigger P5 PTSD
lost plinth
Friends it is time for the battle cry
muted thicket
@ocean wave
worldly elm
visual pulsar
Uh
Is that supposed to make me wipe the screen?
Cause it’s kinda hard on iPad when it’s super close to my face and it’s not 3D
tough escarp
works really well on a noral TV screen tbf
spice thistle
neon hinge
Ubisoft is giving free copies of AC Unity in memory of Notre Dame
https://register.ubisoft.com/acu-notredame-giveaway/
spice thistle
Werent they gonna donate some to rebuild it?
neon hinge
yeah they say it on the bottom
fresh osprey
That’s pretty nice
Especially since they spent a lot of time working to recreate it
exotic lily
timber crag
Cool, thanks Skooma. It was mentioned earlier in this channel as well by Intervencion. 😃
spice thistle
visual pulsar
silent escarp
Assassins Creed Unity free on Uplay because of what happend in Paris
ocean wave
If a similar incident happens to Big Ben, will they give Syndicate?
silent escarp
I don't like the way you're asking, mister.
visual pulsar
The pfp doesn’t help his cause either... I think he’s plotting something
ocean wave
¯_(ツ)_/¯
visual pulsar
🤔
waxen frost
Perfectia the Barista
I know this is a bad idea
spring burrow
Lmao
novel tiger
spice thistle
i cant update
timber crag
Morning fellas! 🙌🏻
lost plinth
I played Joker
I love him
He's pretty much exactly what I expected
Plus I am absolutely with amped arcfire
hardy forge
emu joker main 2k19
lost plinth
I knew I was going to be
Finding out he was robin, palutena, and cloud basically made me even more sure
spice thistle
He has a stand
lost plinth
also just to remind you all
if you miss with his FS activation
you can flick back to go the other way
silent escarp
spring burrow
This isn’t the first time its burned
visual pulsar
@silent escarp https://youtu.be/57zm-EJkYNg
silent escarp
visual pulsar
timber crag
Ah, Mega Mind. They really did a great job with that one. A personal favorite of mine is the second Wreck it Ralph. Imo, they were sorta reaching out to the first generation to get sucked into the video gaming world. Perhaps - just maybe, mind you - it has had its share of downsides, though I in no way contest it as a good pass time. When it becomes a tunnel-vision/focus of one's life, however, it is less than healthy. I can speak from experience on that front. 😃
clever wyvern
i would like to ask can i upgrade my herlm with honor marks?
timber crag
@clever wyvern I believe that's possible. One minute. https://www.wowhead.com/item=122338/ancient-heirloom-armor-casing#sold-by look for the result that costs 12 Marks of Honor. The vendors are in SW and Org, respectively. Here is the Horde variant: https://www.wowhead.com/npc=52036/galra
clever wyvern
thanks mate @timber crag for the info
timber crag
@clever wyvern Glad to be of assistance. Good luck! 😃
short steppe
I wanted to thank wowhead again for the contest opportunity! 💕 on a side note, make sure to keep an eye on your felines; i think one of us maaaay have knocked over a candle near teldrassil. 👀
timber crag
Art FTW! WoW has an amazing art team. Not to devalue other teams/aspects, but I have always enjoyed the art. Bah at first I thought the middle NPC was Khadgar. Now I see the Quiver. Nathanos, I suppose? Would explain the hearts. Why oh why must hashtag goals sometimes be so distasteful and hard to swallow? I guess it's part of life. Sometimes you must make sacrifices in the now to prepare for the future. 😃
short steppe
❤ ! i won't lie, ever since seeing artwork of sylvanas annoying nathanos to death (past death?) with ABBA music, i can't envision the two as anything other than hashtagcouplegoals. it helps that they're both 1000% morally sound and Totally Not Ethically Questionable in any way!
clever wyvern
someone who plays hunter here? i lvl up one beast mastery and he is with heirloom weapon what encant should i put on him
timber crag
Enchant? For the heirloom weapon? Honestly, I don't know these days. I'm a firm believer in the goblin, "Best deals anywhere!" racial. As well as, "Time is Money." I'd rather free, no-time invested basic gear for the most part. I do make myself Incendiary Ammunition for my Hunter in BfA since he's an Engineer, but beyond that, I rarely bother. Does Incendiary work on lower ilvl stuff? If so, might work ok. 😃
clever wyvern
well if you craft one echant from bfa and put it on low lvl char it scales as you lvl up
i mean if i put it on 10lvl char it gonna give 3 haste ring and as i go more lvl up it scales more 6 12 and go on 😛
timber crag
Oh? I didn't know that! Neat! Where do you play your Hunter? If it's on one of the realms connected to the one I play on (edited addition - and Horde-side, I guess as I know of few reliable ways to get it to you otherwise. I could toss, max one, one up cheap on AH if we time it carefully, however.), I can make you one shot of Incendiary Ammunition, np. Not sure how the application process works for lower lvl chars off the top of my head, though.
timber crag
Sadly, that one is not connected to the Realm on which I play. Sorry, ColdSteel. 😦
jolly kraken
In light of the events in Notre Dame, Ubisoft is giving away Assassin's Creed Unity for free.
https://register.ubisoft.com/acu-notredame-giveaway/en-US <@&299347348847329281>
Just thought you'd like to know
deft vapor
that's not really something we ping mods for
and it's been mentioned by a mod already
warm valve
😡 @jolly kraken
silent escarp
Apparently there are rummors of Sylvanas being fully ressed to the living.
That shit better be a fucking lie.
tough escarp
spoilers pls into #beta-ptr-spoilers
silent escarp
It's a rumor. And hopefully a sketchy one.
lost plinth
why am I not surprised
lost plinth
hell yeah I am playin joker
I have landed mad fuckin combos like 6 times today
like the sort of mad fuckin combos that involve his up b
except the times Arsene comes out, changes the up b, and ruins it
hardy forge
YouTube Forced me into the "Watch literally every possible Person on YouTube (even those with 2ksubs) React to [subject here] "
And one was like "joker Is the sexiest character in smash, change my mind"
hardy forge
Also,as Is the usual,a lot of youtubers,YouTube Forced me to Watch,Never even played a single persona game
And all they knew was that their fans said the games were good
They liked the music 👌
timber crag
That is a new term to me, Dafire. "Persona protagonist". I'm not quite managing to process the meaning. How do you define it?
hardy forge
protagonist of a persona-series game
the one in smash bros being the protagonist of Persona5
spring burrow
The games are basically high school sims as well as a dungeon crawling rpg
And they’re all pretty good
1 and 2 don’t get as much love though as 3-5
But those games are really old
timber crag
Oh. A persona-series game. So one in which the main protagonist is maintained through multiple instances? Kind of like Super Mario and successors?
timber crag
So, like Final Fantasy series? Or are we talking a specific series - the "persona" series? I've never heard the name, if so lol.
spring burrow
Persona is its own series of games
timber crag
Ah! Ok. I kinda get it now. Sorry for my confusion. I kinda specialize in games - some just aren't on my radar I suppose. 😃
visual pulsar
Dude, I swear you’re the kindest and most polite dude I’ve met on discord, ever
How come the world doesn’t have more like you?
timber crag
https://www.thoughtco.com/introduction-to-the-bell-curve-3126337 see the Third Standard Deviation section by scrolling down a tad or searching it on the page. I'm weird. What can I say? 😃
I know, I know, an imperfect example. As stated on the page itself. But when you take the overall factors that led to me becoming (edited correction - I meant to say becoming, not being) "me" I think I can safely say I'm somewhere past that third standard deviation. 😁
lost plinth
@timber crag the Persona series are sort of based in the same world in roughly the same time period
but with different characters
well, some recurring characters
timber crag
Ah. So Pete and re-Pete? Sort of? 😃
lost plinth
sort of
It's basically based around a bunch of often-highschoolers who discover the ability to enter the world as percieved by people's cognition
which in the case of the evil people they target usually manifests in them ruling the world
Wait no that's persona 5
sorry
They're of a similar ilk
5 is a group of Robin Hood sort of vigilantes changing the hearts of evil people
timber crag
Oh. So they somehow alter the physical manifestation of reality by using other peoples' perceptions?
lost plinth
In 4, they'd save people from sort of the dark side of their soul by taking it down in the cognitive world
timber crag
Sort of like the whole, oh what's it called, not string theory I don't think. The one where each choice splits into another reality?
lost plinth
in 5, by 'stealing' the 'treasure' aka the core of the person's distorted desires, they force them to change their ways in reality
timber crag
Ah! That actually sounds pretty interesting.
lost plinth
which in every case causes them to be wracked with guilt and confess
timber crag
An interesting result. Not quite what I would have expected.
lost plinth
and often in the cognitive world they have access to Personas, sort of a manifestation of the soul
timber crag
Hmm. Sounds complicated. I wonder. How did they handle that within the story? Pretty "heavy" stuff, to quote Marty McFly. 😃
lost plinth
5's plotline is also about tracking down the rogue Persona user who's been going into people's cognitive worlds and killing their mental selves, triggering total mental shutdown in reality
Persona's storylines can vary between fun and whimsical and heavy as hell
I mean in persona 3 the way to summon one's Persona is through experiencing death, i.e. shooting oneself in the head
timber crag
A bipolar story, eh? Interesting. Perhaps something to consider at some point, but I prefer to keep an even keel these days. As able. 😃
hardy forge
P5 is one of the games with the most style in recent years
hardy forge
music is something you could totally hear in a fancy bar somewhere
timber crag
Nice, nice. I may consider it at some point. I'm a little susceptible to getting "sucked into" stories atm. Probably going to hold off, but sounds interesting. SP can be a bit emotional. FF7 is probably off limits for me - too sad. 😦
lost plinth
I mean just for an example of how stylish it is
and yes the game does come in english
hardy forge
every single menu is incredibly stylish
timber crag
Cool! If I feel up to diving it, I will have to give it some consideration. On PC, or PS only?
hardy forge
that ^ clip is so stylish,it's his final smash in smash bros
PS4 only for now
PC and switch ports are rumors atm
timber crag
Ah. I don't have a 4, nor do I particularly care for Consoles in general (physical limitations, nothing against them in general, they just don't work that well for me for other reasons). If a PC port happens, I will give it due process if I feel up to it, though. 😃
lost plinth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ4mL_7hkFE yeah it's also his final smash in SSBU
there was also a persona 5 anime but it was
particularly bad
lost plinth
anything that butchers Makoto's awakening is terribad by my standards
timber crag
What? 3 also? I do have a 3. Does it run ok there?
lost plinth
probs
hardy forge
it runs acceptably
lost plinth
I think the PS4 one was just a HD port
timber crag
I thought 3's core code got cracked at some point, though. Hopefully that got fixed, but it made me a weeeeee bit nervous to use it too much anymore. Idk.
lost plinth
plus all the characters in P5 are just lovable as hell
hardy forge
pancakeboi
lost plinth
P5 does stand alone, but a hint for a twist will probably fly over your head if you haven't played the past ones
it's barely relevant enough to merit playing the older ones first
hardy forge
P3 and P4 have much lesser PS2 graphics tho
lost plinth
true
hardy forge
compared to P5's animeish graphics
lost plinth
also just don't be as confused as i was and know from the start Morgana is a guy
sounds female - isn't
lost plinth
i dunno... the voice works
it's just odd
And yeah while everyone calls P5's protagonist Joker he doesn't have a given name as such
Joker's his codename
The anime and the rhythm game spinoff do give him names (different ones...) but eh
hardy forge
technically he does...
but canon doesnt know if to use manga name
or game-name
e.e
spring burrow
Akira is what I call him as well
tough escarp
no ... there are thousands of people that want and will
pure wave
feels good when a popular wow youtuber replies to you :-D
frosty tundra
@pure wave These aren't real... don't fall for scams. 
frosty tundra
That's actually my grandma. Just a weird coincidence.
waxen frost
Perfectia Smoking
lost plinth
@deft thunder my mother bought that laptop and her wow experience has gone from 20fps on a good day to solid 80
She says everything looks different (because it's keeping at 80 frames on setting 8)
she also says you may have a cookie
lost plinth
She is currently shocked how water looks like water
and my Hunter pet has feathers and isn't just a pink blob
hardy forge
@pure wave isnt that madseason's second Channel?
Also for emu: this Is my family's experience After Wrath when we got Better PCS "the water Is made out of water" moments
deft thunder
@lost plinth next tip for you - get her a laptop cooler
Laptops are very prone to thermal throttling
gloomy yoke
@deft thunder which laptop?
pure wave
@hardy forge hirumaredx's second channel, 200k ish subscribers lore ytber
timber crag
Could someone who understands Discord's mechanics very well please DM me? I have a question in regards to Discord-specific mechanics I could use a little help with. I'll take it to a different Server if more appropriate, however.
sly bridge
timber crag
I'm sorry? I didn't mean to cause anyone to lose their power of speech. I am not Ursula, after all. 😛
lost plinth
wasn't referring to you probably
timber crag
Rasmus, I do not believe Strawpolls are allowed here. I recommend removing that link. 😃
visual pulsar
No it’s a rule, no strawpolls allowed
lost plinth
@ocean knot
novel tiger
Thanks
timber crag
If I may ask, what is the most appropriate action, as a user, to take if I spot something like what was posted earlier? I do not wish to overstep my bounds, but also make sure I mention it to the appropriate people. (edit - additional information) I considered at mentioning a Moderator - only one that was online right now, but both are red icons/do not disturb. Any suggestions?
novel tiger
Just ping a mod-- here's many mods with mobile clients ;)
timber crag
Just to be clear. Does that include authorization to do an at mention of all mods, or should I limit it to specific names online/other venue? (edit - additional info) I just wanted to double check. I've had some backlash from at mentioning whole server groups in the past that I would rather avoid.
novel tiger
All mods
timber crag
Thank you for the clarification, Funky. I appreciate it. I just wish to be mindful of not overstepping. 😃
novel tiger
It's okay, no one will be angry at all. Thank you!
boreal basalt
