🗣️┃chill-chat

[fast rivet]

i must have clicked the wrong line to quote. sorry again.

[limpid violet]

cough cough https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1252299354950074429 cough cough

At least it's one simple way to prevent people posting spam & trying to ping entire channels or servers on the same day they joined...

Previously it was suggested that the only planned type of filter was for free/paid accounts, which clocks in slightly below whelming.

[umbral wadi]

Followup from comments in #💬┃general-chat: #💬┃general-chat message

Jrenzlin, thought you'd like this bit of greentext if you haven't seen it already.

[runic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-chow-squinting-gif-14584743

that is one of those greentexts that you just want to believe is true

[smoky stone]

Who would I go to a about getting my contest official? Maybe even a thread in general...

[runic depot]

only one week left for a gay month themed contest

[summer moth]

singer of metallica just liked my comment on hes personal account

[neon talon]

No, do something a little less "controversial" per say

[runic depot]

half the fun of gay month is that it's controversial

get the worst people on the planet angry about something that has become pointless as of the last decade or so

[neon talon]

Ya, but calling it gay month definitely doesn't help 😂

[runic depot]

but you knew what I meant 😄

[ashen fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-dancing-dance-grooving-groove-gif-4576300

[limpid violet]

The first step is getting people aware of what your contest is? Are you the person running the SSC3 thing?

[smoky stone]

no

[surreal zinc]

react to this with a thumbs up emoji if you have seen nimona on netflix or heard about nimona at any point in time

[glad abyss]

why my page flicker then sign me out? lol

[limpid violet]

Your Suno is haunted by the Phantom of the Opera-Step

[glad abyss]

sounds about right

[worldly seal]

yo

[strange mist]

hello

[spark vortex]

YOUTUBE Guess What - TOTALLY mind-blowing, IKR? But yeah - ITS NOT MADE FOR KIDS! NOTHING I MAKE IS FOR KIDS! ITS NEVER FOR KIDS. HFS

[olive flicker]

Lol you tell them

[spark vortex]

I tell them every time, but they keep asking

[olive flicker]

Noobs

[tidal spoke]

what about this?

[spark vortex]

Im a YT newb thank you so much

[tidal spoke]

ofc

[obsidian cloak]

https://youtu.be/1Wc3JWiza8g?si=bozukNAn5wipmHhY

made with suno

[rotund surge]

Eve, wife of Maciej Nowicki is a holy Rayo's number level hyperintelligence, best wife in the omniverse, Stellar Blade

[obsidian sentinel]

https://tenor.com/eJ1HOhgUUL9.gif

me

[quasi dew]

HEYYY

[hoary wind]

@quasi dew Seriously, please stop using @ everyone. There are almost 30,000 users online. They do not need to be pinged just because you want to know if anyone likes Stranger Things.

[quasi dew]

haha a

sorry

any onne like strangerthings

[limpid violet]

While I don't get as excited about it as I used to, it was one of the most exciting new shows to hit the digital airwaves.

I find it really interesting how well they manage to tie together 3 separate genres of 80s movies to make a modern show -- the kids are engaged in a Goonies-style adventure, the adults are engaged in political espionage, and the older kids are straight up in a Cronenberg body-horror movie.

[quasi dew]

Are you bot

[hoary wind]

Eh? First you keep trying to ping the whole server because nobody is replying to your question, and when someone does, you call them a bot? 🤔

[limpid violet]

Yeah.

[quasi dew]

ohhhhhhh great so i think right

[quasi dew]

i think you're a bot am i right?

[hoary wind]

Beep boop

[limpid violet]

🤖

[quasi dew]

lol what do you wana to say

@limpid violet i am sorry i call u bot

[west hull]

beep boop

[quasi dew]

@west hull what is meant by beep boop

[west hull]

nothing. It's just the noises a robot makes

it beeps and it boops

[quasi dew]

oh great thnkx bro

[radiant ledge]

I love the early mornings. It brings me great joy to watch it rise. And it's beautiful. Have any opinions on this?

[west hull]

the tree looks like cat 🐱

[faint oracle]

been listening to this channel's for a while and just now found out about the word "harpischord" in english 😄 live and learn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NfieKoWR24

[surreal zinc]

it's my birthday

[wraith palm]

People in different age groups use bot differently

[wraith palm]

I’ll add you to the prompt list you’re the best

[quasi dew]

hey guyss

[rocky meadow]

Good morning. If you've not had enough song competition yet, we're about to close up the June contest over at the AI Music Showcase. https://discord.gg/5R7AREqd June's theme is Masquerade. There's a couple days left if you'd like to submit. No prizes, just bragging rights. But it's still June, so anything you make can count for SOS also. 😛

[jaunty thicket]

@oblique robin

ready for your waifu ?

[oblique robin]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

[jaunty thicket]

[jaunty thicket]

@oblique robin

[jaunty thicket]

@oblique robin GIMME A REACTION IDK I FEEL I DID THAT FOR NOTHING OOF

[oblique robin]

so pretty! i love the maki hair tie, and the leaves :3

[jaunty thicket]

i wanted a sushi as an hair ornament this is why it takes so long

but i'm so happy with the results

hope you use it somedays xD

[jaunty thicket]

@late crown

currently creating suno's waifu

[wraith palm]

[hoary cypress]

I cant read things in 0.5 seconds

sorry but what was your comment?

@quartz jay cant post it

got removed

it was too much off topic I guess

[bold hare]

Using Midjourney to generate avatars for a 24/7 livestream of Michael Jackson, Marilyn Monroe, Einstein, and Steve Jobs reacting to a live twitter feed. Fully AI generated conversations and interacting with chat: https://www.twitch.tv/timelesstakes

[spark vortex]

Someone plz charge me

i neeeeed mah credits!

I cant wait no mooooore

[faint oracle]

try this https://huggingface.co/spaces/enzostvs/ai-jukebox
it runs entirely locally using transformer.js aka as close to which craft as it gets for music models 😄
obviously the quality is ... yea you guessed it already, also check out the author of the space, quite a talented webdev

[boreal nymph]

@willow spindle I was referencing this video

https://youtu.be/XsJXeHjDDCc?si=Ihw4FIIQaFXUhbZ1

[willow spindle]

Ik

[desert star]

What happened to bark ai?

[grim idol]

Bark is still around, just Suno the company is working on their music service and not actively supporting it.

[desert star]

👍

[quaint solstice]

I need more this promp to create a sad and shay songs hahahaha

[quaint solstice]

Wawa😳 I think you create a song with perfect time

[wraith palm]

<~< right

[quaint solstice]

Do you have a another promp to create a cover acoustic song with model atmosfer or chillwave?

[wraith palm]

dunno but i'd work it up

[brittle bloom]

Did this with Hedra and Suno.

https://x.com/JayBeBJay/status/1804700225233170751

Jay Be (@JayBeBJay) on X

@hedra_labs video #lipsync & @suno_ai_ music creates 🔥. Here is a super fun song called "Xtreme Desire" from "Life UnderView" about those irresistible sugary cravings! Can #AI capture the struggle to resist #chocolate ice cream? #aimusic #aivideo #aisong #FutureTech #donuts

Twitter · Jun 23, 2024, 2:17 AM

[spark vortex]

Best Rapper in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd5OuwE99gE

[still iron]

https://youtu.be/2hrrWkf5Slw?si=z0VjBHGIqQULeG3s @thorn whale you mean this right? 🤣

[thorn whale]

Maybe more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9gMX1KjK2I

[still iron]

The comments 💀

[timber willow]

who want to be friends with me

[grim idol]

你好，如果你想制作一首歌，请立即访问网站 https://suno.com

你也可以在这里找到非英语聊天：https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154780167047217233

[grim idol]

Only only one letter away from a new AI model variant making a great zombo.com joke https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.16712v1

[limpid violet]

#🗣️┃chill-chat message

I knew you were my kind of people ❤️

[cedar halo]

Woodhouse might

[loud bloom]

Random thing, I’m looking for people for my fantasy UFC, PGA, Formula One, and NASCAR leagues. If you’d be interested shoot me a message. It’s 100% free. Thanks.

[tranquil anchor]

AGREED

[quasi dew]

heyyyyyyyyy

[tranquil anchor]

Now come on now 🤣💖

Suno consumed me all night while I consumed my credits. Very nice medium to explore even more creative expression through

[wraith palm]

Some function to devise lyrics on ripples in time and pestilence persisting

[smoky stone]

Great experimental band for metal inspiration https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQo8ecbJuo&si=gqWq9gc6zJKINXMS

[final folio]

Does anyone know of a local TTS solution, where you can control which word in the sentence is emphasized?

[neon talon]

Try using accent marks

[final folio]

English is not my first language, could you please elaborate? 🙂

[neon talon]

if you want the "a" in "tea" to be emphasized, try doing something like "teá"

[final folio]

Ah but I meant emphasizing words, not single letter

[neon talon]

Then try doing it to every letter, or capitalizing it
I usually put it on all caps to emphasize it a bit

[final folio]

Okay, will try that out, thank you 🙂

[neon talon]

Suno isn't the best for some things, so it may take some testing to get what you want

[upper bramble]

だるい日にとりあえず聴いとく 🌧️ [LoFi Rain Chill] Instrumental Mix for study / relax
https://youtu.be/QZcQuXeI2VM

The rainy season has arrived in Japan☔️

[limpid violet]

Worst case, you can spell it out phonetically?

Sometimes it mispronounces my city, Moncton, making it sound like "monk-a-ton", but if you think, these kinds of mispronunciation can happen between human speakers who aren't familiar with specific pronunciations or regional dialects.

Instead of using a word that Suno & I might not have agreement or a shared understanding of, I can break it down into syllables like I would to be helpful to another human, "Welcome to Monk-tunn" won't give the same mispronunciations 🙂

[torn trellis]

https://youtu.be/YRNKY3WgENs check my beat out

[viscid root]

phew beaten a new record on the chest press 10x200 repetitons and weight 100

[orchid gust]

looks interesting, another ai music editor?

[orchid gust]

why would you have a weight on your chest?.

[viscid root]

its the name of the machine i used

[orchid gust]

oh, phew for a moment there?.

fought it was going to be a weird exercise

[viscid root]

this bad boy

[compact charm]

What did I just come back to-

[limpid violet]

Workout jams. The current meta is making workout jams.

[compact charm]

Ohhh okay-

[gritty hollow]

i've been doing workout jams since i signed up

[wraith palm]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGv85VQhU0&si=ytIMyln6anJOesrU

[manic plank]

A fun channel in this server would be AI or not AI where people have to guess @viral flame

[viral flame]

It does sound interesting. I'm not sure how something like that would be regulated though. 🤔

[manic plank]

wym by 'regulated'?

[viral flame]

I mean preventing people from sending copyrighted songs.

[spark vortex]

secret codes make your prompt more powerful

[hoary wind]

Never fear - woodhouse has already shaken his walking stick in anger

[brittle bloom]

https://x.com/JayBeBJay/status/1805217056549449942

Suno AI + Hedra Labs

Jay Be (@JayBeBJay) on X

Here is a breakup song called "TRUTH BE TOLD" from "Life UnderView" Added a @hedra_labs treeman to sing it. Getting over & moving on can be hard to do; here's a song that might make it feel tolerable. #aimusic #aivideo #aisong #FutureTech #goodbyes #lipsync & @suno_ai_ #truths

Twitter · Jun 24, 2024, 12:31 PM

[umbral wadi]

Hedra is cool. Wish I lived in a region where I was allowed to use it.

😦

https://tenor.com/view/tenset-10set-fox-cup-gif-4636644335299830446

Brother, can you spare a generation or three?

[sonic harbor]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8HLnT_ISM8I&si=siH5wCFYcOa6U1so

[faint oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKsYxyG6bOw

harp thnigs are good ❤️

compoing for the harp is hard !!

[west hull]

Suno got sued. I have a godtier strategy for you guys on how to win

[west hull]

by giving them deez nuts?

[west hull]

no, by using the RICO Act

Knowing companies like this, they probably already have things in place for instances like this

[west hull]

I will die on the hill that the records industry operates akin to a criminal enterprise that engages in racketeering

[west hull]

I mean it's not like the music industry exploits their own artists half the time anyway lol

[west hull]

if team sees this. I am NOT a lawyer but I do want to become one after my undergrad. Do not take my bangers for genuine legal advice please hire competent and licensed counsel

[west hull]

(also I applied to work for you guys I would love to hear back soon :3 )

[west hull]

https://tenor.com/view/jasmine-masters-make-some-coins-drag-race-drag-fabulous-gif-8483447

[wraith palm]

You should make a talking lyrical about this bit

[spark vortex]

Udio is like my lonely side-chick i only see her when I can't afford suni

[spark vortex]

whatever the lawsuit is so ridiculous. FFT has already been declared transformative, so on what basis are they even suing?

I can litterally take any peice of music and ibtain 80% authorship in 15 minutes

because FFT is transformative

[ashen fjord]

Links for those interested in the details about the lawsuit:

• Press statement
• Suno complaint document
• Udio complaint document
• A few of the complained evidences (more are linked in the complaint documents)

[wraith palm]

How might I be using audio analysis from my sneaky basement background dev analysis probably even using discord api lol , to analyze peoples overtime text data

And behavior interaction with users

I know you devs got that give it to me

[spark vortex]

is there a way to get a master volume/transport control for discord audio?

[wraith palm]

😒

[spark vortex]

Its like "what they did was legal, but it's unethetical" gmafb - Suno literally shapes white noise with FTT - if your not supposed to listen to music and copy what you hear than everyone has violated CR - this whole this is a mountain of garbage built on a fallacy

If you didnt want AI training on your shit, shouldn't have given it to distrokid dummmazzz

[ashen fjord]

Honestly, everybody was expecting the music industry to try something like this, the question was when.

IMO, most likely this will end up as being a settlement, if not dropped outright.

Unless RIAA was willing to dish out a lot of money to make some sort of precedence - which I would not be surprised they are willing to do.

(And you know that the companies behind this are trying to make their own Music AI generators too)

[wraith palm]

If people can analyze your own data and train a model from it how come you can’t use it yourself to train the model with your own outputs and data stop treating people like research subjects

😭

[spark vortex]

the labels deserve to burn

AI is just purging unnecessary human institutions that do more harm than good IMHO

[ashen fjord]

Which is why they are scared

[spark vortex]

I always tell people I would rather have a GPT for president than any of the LUNATICS that try to run our Government anyways - Im not scared of SKYNET, I'm scared of HUMANS

[rocky haven]

@hollow shuttle Dunno if glass or ice...

[teal copper]

There could be an impact on v4 because of this lawsuit. The amount of compensation requested is high.

Both Meta and Google have TTM, but people don't use it like SUNO.

The RIAA must have seen that there were factors that would allow them to win this time.

However, I believe that the effect of the RIAA's actions is more likely to be to dissuade U.S. companies.

[umbral wadi]

I'm waiting to hear about whatever unknown factor forced their hand, because it feels like they were rushed or moved early. Maybe some rumored changes in how the copyright office was moving? Maybe the sheer momentum we've seen with Suno and with other AI as it just continues to improve exponentially? I don't know.

I expected something, just because this is who the Music And Film Industry Association of America™ are. But I thought they'd have more meat on the bones than what we've seen so far.

[fiery nebula]

They wouldn't even have a case if it weren't for the fact that they're a record label and have infinite lawyer funds.

It's literally impossible to extract training data from Suno. Not in whole, not in part, not even in unrecognizable corrupted snippets. Even more impossible to steal stuff with it than image generators.

But I don't think the RIAA is able to lose a lawsuit, so my hopes aren't high.

Suno is so dramatically transformative that I don't even think it toes into the gray area of fair use. When we lose, that will be very bad news for anything that does rely on fair use, even outside the realm of AI.

I'm not happy, is what I'm saying.

[umbral wadi]

Which might be just the thing needed to persuade all the other AI companies to band together here. All for one and one for all.

There is no inevitable here. The Music and Film Industry Associations of America can lose.

[fiery nebula]

They really can't.

They brute-force money at the courts until they get the result they want. That's what they do, that's who they are, and that's how the American legal system works. They're rich enough to be invincible.

[spark vortex]

Suno is like Slot machines for Music - I'm actually working on my own lawsuit - they didn'y warn me it was addictive

[unborn marlin]

Hello. Me new here, So, what is "RawVocalSamples734"? Are there more RawVocalSamples, or is it just an autogenerated name for my channel?

[faint oracle]

not sure what it's about but it's Jeremy Howard so it's gotta be good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_8Zk6HUCV8

[ashen fjord]

Auto-generated name. To change it, click your Avatar picture (bottom left) > Edit Profile. Alternatively, tap your avatar image when viewing your profile

[spark vortex]

HERES an ODDBALL Hallucination - It started saying my name but theres no lyrics in any track before it, it's literally reading the Style Prompt

SUUNO/song/2b57fc4f-af6c-446b-804c-196e18f5415a

wtf woodhouse

[gritty hollow]

really? americans are upset by the word dumba$$ how you invented it?!

anyway, this might be a "kinda not smart" question but what is FTT?

[limpid violet]

Fair question, when I search "ftt suno" it shows the articles regarding the RIAA, but no idea what FTT is.

[ember hollow]

community driven contest reminded me of Eurovision.
What if its called SunoVision instead 😆 🧐

[toxic ice]

hi, i am a NSMBW mod developer, how to make a mario theme music include overworld theme, title theme and etc.?

what is the style that i need to input to be exact.

[ember hollow]

Could always use the trusty AI

[toxic ice]

thanks

[grim idol]

I'm playing around with turning Hallo into a music visualizer, instead of a lip sync. At the very least it might work as a music nightmare-izer.

It's very slow though, annoying to test with

Feels so good to your fingers deep into those logits again

[gritty hollow]

good god i need a morning coffee I read that as you turning hello.jpg into music via a visualiser and i nearly needed a dose of woodhouse's smelling salts 😄

[raw onyx]

what happened to my sessage

the good old boys dont want to share the playgound with the new kids on the block .this lawsuite is just another form of bullying in the industry and it makes me so mad

every song i create in suno i have written on paper days before i create it in the app

well i want to help fight for my right to create without chains around my neck

i have created over 200 uniqe songs in suno

i have spoken to warner music and they asked me to come on board with them as a writer /co producer i refused after hearing about this lawsuit. I Believe in what is being done here at suno.

the future has come and people dont want to change

[obsidian hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuvckBQ1bME The thing that does the music

Otherwise, a rock

[hollow nova]

I knew Udio was going to get a sued. I tweeted about it. They are straight up using famous artists voice.

I'm really surprised though that Suno is also getting sued as I've never once thought even remotely that a generation sounded like an artist voice that I know of.

[heavy forum]

My dance music comes out sounding like Selena Gomez and Melanie Martinez 😦 I deleted them bc i got too nervous to keep them. My vocaloid inspired music sounds very similar to miku and I'm unsure how to fix that so.. I believe it all ahhhhg

[umbral wadi]

They never do. Remember how hard they fought the VCR? Mixtapes? The VCR basically saved Hollywood by providing them another revenue stream when movoe theaters died for a while.

[ashen fjord]

Hm, I just noticed that the links to the evidence in the RIAA complaint for Udio, the tracks cannot be found.

Do not know if they were private by default or if Udio removed it 🤔

[hollow nova]

I'm sure Udio removed them haha

[umbral wadi]

They had to. The Music and Film Industry Association of America didn't actually own the rights to those songs...

[ashen fjord]

Ah, makes sense when put it like that. Surprised that the Suno entries are still there

[umbral wadi]

Hmmm...probably acting under advise of legal counsel to leave them?

I dunno.

I are not a liar lawyer. (Odd typo that.)

[strange gorge]

Decently sure Suno always expected a lawsuit

That Rolling Stone interview said so

Where not the devs but one of the investor people? Founder guys

[hollow nova]

all that VC money Suno got you bet your ass they are prepared for a lawsuit

[umbral wadi]

I think we all did. But jumping like this is odd. They seem to be jumping the gun a bit. Always figured they'd wait until there was money involved like someone making a series of viral hits. As far as I know nothing like that has happened big yet.

So I think something spooked them and forced their hand.

[ashen fjord]

Oh, for sure. Everyone knew that the music industry would try for that very thing because of OpenAI's copyright suit

[strange gorge]

Lawsuits aren't for truth. Or logic, really

[umbral wadi]

I believe someone said that was a misquote? It's being treated as an 'admission of guilt' of some sort. If nothing else it seems remarkably cherrypicked and needing context.

[strange gorge]

The interview was more like "We are prepared if it happens"

I haven't read anything about the lawsuit, but I did read the interview with RS

As we all know, the music industry never steps outside of good faith

[umbral wadi]

lulz

There's a reason I insist on typing out Music and Film Industry Association of America. Think acronym...

[olive flicker]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/s/1Vet108KDI

[tropic pasture]

I can finally enjoy my album:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLODVHnh6zmA5qhEx-dNRoFhq3qjM6vbq8&si=nGDluuE25BOeCi9M

[young inlet]

What about covers? Why those "unsmart" people not suing musicians who make covers, hmm? Answer is simple - they smell money in this current situation. I can bet billions (witch I not have) that if they win and steal rights on music generation - then they will copyright every bodycell of every musician under their labels so they can still profit out of their IP even if they "exit" one way or another.

[visual eagle]

tbh I think there's a massive difference between making a cover of another person's song and using their songs as training data

[young inlet]

Means you can't even "hear" songs anymore? It can also count as stealing.

Cause some songs still "play" in my mind.

[timid sonnet]

N word i will say n word

I think i said it

Good

Good really

As i said

[young inlet]

make a song now

[obsidian hare]

I mean, the training data doesnt end up in the resulting AI though. The AI learns how to compose music from their tracks, but I'm certain this was also the way that many people learned to make music over time, outside of direct instruction. Is this different from a person in any way but speed of learning? Dont all ideas come from the ideas of past works?

It's not like the AI is copying and pasting, its learning, and then using what it learned.

Not that this matters at all, but I can imagine if this were ever struck down, and then applied to a public of humans, it might greatly obstruct progress amongst ourselves, not just the AI's we're making now

[visual eagle]

I agree but I think a machine making this process is significantly different than a human

I used to have the same thought process as you but I just don't think it's comparable

[young inlet]

nope

[visual eagle]

it is definitionally different

[young inlet]

no, it's not

[visual eagle]

a machine uses calculus to find the lowest cost value, and that's how it learns

at least if you're talking about backpropogation

[obsidian hare]

Does learning differently, matter in this case? Where does that line get drawn? For example if someone with some mental difference learns music in a similar way, should they also be stopped, even if its slower?

[young inlet]

humans have a wider specter of information to learn from, machines are limited only with what we feed them with, but the process mostly the same

[visual eagle]

The thing is that most humans learn in a very similar way, at least physiologically, but machines "learn" very differently. It's also kind of anthropomorphization to use the word learn when that's not really what the machine is doing

[visual eagle]

the process is not mostly the same afaik, one is an optimization calc problem and the other is a vastly more complex process

[obsidian hare]

Well what its doing, as far as I know and that doesnt matter, is learning by creating nodes in a neural network, like neurons in a brain, that teach it what to do in certain circumstances. Anthropomorphization in such a case is kind of inevitable as it is pure mimicry of the human design

It is looking at the dataset differently than a human

But for example there are those kids that pop up now and then that just learn to mimic the hands of humans who play songs, and then perfectly cover them

[visual eagle]

saying it's a neural network doesn't necessarily mean that it's a mimicry of the human design, this is just a simplification of how both processes work to make it make more sense

[obsidian hare]

otherwise, a completely different method of learning music

[visual eagle]

it's the same reason that a computer bug in modern time isn't an actual bug, they're just words to make us understand things better

and regardless of the way it is created, I think the argument should be a consequentalist one, where the effects of it are the things that really matter in the ethics of it

[young inlet]

ok, let's pretend we could put human in "information vacuum" from his birth, then feed them only a bunch of various musicians songs and then ask him to write a song - what will you get?

[obsidian hare]

The chinese room

[visual eagle]

I don't know because this depends on the person and their prior experiences

[obsidian hare]

I think this is relating to something different. You remove a dimension from a neural network and it fires based on circumstance, like a neuron does. Thats why they share the name. That not the same as a bug I dont think.

[visual eagle]

I also don't know how that's relevant

[young inlet]

read again

[visual eagle]

then it depends on their genetics

I also don't see how I'm supposed to predict what happens here, they could spit out nonsense or beethoven

[young inlet]

Just like AI

[visual eagle]

cool, but what I'm saying is that even though a bucket and a sponge can carry water from destination to destination, that doesn't mean that a bucket is a sponge

[young inlet]

I had many garbage samples and few amazing ones under the same prompt

It's literally RNG but way more complex

[visual eagle]

that still doesn't mean that ai and humans learn in the same way

[young inlet]

I said it close enough

[obsidian hare]

I mean we have no way of determining just how similar they are, because the value that makes a human, is locked inside a door in philosophy that people refer to in solipsism... The closest we can ever make is the illusion of the P-Zombie, and whether ethics apply to that thing, also determines how ethics should apply to the P-Zombies chatting in this very discord.

Unless there is an actual distinct difference we can measure

Not to be combative

[visual eagle]

I think also it's important to know that even if ai learns legitimately, that doesn't mean that the use of it is ethical still

especially in a consequentialist sense

[young inlet]

teaching AI is unethical? ok

[visual eagle]

*using

at least for profit

[obsidian hare]

Ethics from purely the human perspective I imagine?

[visual eagle]

I mean we can walk through it if you want

I'm not sure if you are a moral realist or antirealist or whatever but let's not get carried away with objectivism debate lol

[obsidian hare]

I just think about this stuff a lot, its not a big deal, no decision makers exist in this room. In reality due to the capitalist format that AI's development is following, where big companies trickle down advancements to the community of local AI designers which get better at a similarly fast rate, without censoring, its likely none of what we currently play with will exist 10 years from now, when we are running all of this on our phones, without ever hitting the cloud. Ethics on those things will probably be pretty hard to impose at all

People try to break it now, and make it do things like, cover every song that exists

[visual eagle]

I may be biased since I'm trying to learn traditional music, so that's why I'm interested in this and its ethics

[young inlet]

when God created humans - that was unethical, look what they doing now lol

[visual eagle]

like ai music 2 years ago was what got me into making traditional music since I was like "if AI can make this then I can too easily"

[obsidian hare]

Is that purely from like a side hustle make money perspective, or from a purely human interest perspective out of curiosity, or some mixture?

Good on you either way

[visual eagle]

sort of a passion of mine, it's very unlikely to make me money but if I were to get a good job from it someday I would take it

originally it came from "I like this style of music, why don't I make more of it so I can listen to more"

then I got into playing guitar and everything else with it lol

[obsidian hare]

It's sort of an annoying stance, but there was always the upcoming risk of the pencil replacing the chisel, or the typewriter replacing its press... This is more complicated for sure, and it will grow into something much more and potentially harder to deal with, but thats the old shot I took at it when I was in the early MJ betas

Is the idea, someday maybe, but not now?

And then so, when?

[visual eagle]

my take on it has always been that real artists will largely be fine from tools like this, at least in terms of quality

the way the machines work, they train on all data input including good and bad songs, so the output from suno stays around the average of the dataset for the most part

[obsidian hare]

So very reliant on a kind of human elitism there dont you think? I mean when you look at where quality has gone from yesterday to today, how can we place limits on tomorrow without declaring humans as special

It's okay for humans to be special, I'm not knocking it, I'm just clarifying

[visual eagle]

it's less human elitism, more that I don't think ai can surpass its own dataset

[young inlet]

I'm pretty sure that most of musicians starting their learning from trying to play some existing melody. Until they nail'd it. Am I wrong?

[visual eagle]

just to simplify it, if you have an ai that's trained on two questions, 1+1 = 2, and 2+2 = 4, and you ask those questions in rapid succession to the dataset, the average of the numbers it outputs would be around 3, it would be exceedingly unlikely for it to be close to 4 or 2

[obsidian hare]

Is this because of an idea that it cant produce something outside of its dataset? This returns to a copy and paste debate if so. So much chaos produces individuality

I mean thats humans

[visual eagle]

ehhh I think that's kind of bad

[obsidian hare]

Woah

[visual eagle]

I can't even say that word it isn't even swear lol

it's a type of human waste

that's true but imo melodies are fun af to make

like taking that part out of it seems kinda meh idk

[young inlet]

I think they can use Suno for sampling sounds.

[visual eagle]

I guess so but I don't like using sample loops either

if you're talking about individual instrument samples per note input tho I'd agree

[obsidian hare]

I mean, for every person making a unique work from the soul, there are 10 more working to copy the idea and present it as their own.

Anyway, I'm out. I appreciate the conversation, fun talks

[visual eagle]

you too have a good night

[young inlet]

Let's be real, "handmade" music is way cleaner - there is no argue about that.

[visual eagle]

I mean true but I feel like that again takes out the fun part from musicians

imo the most valid use for AI is to learn technical aspects of music production

like it generates a segment of audio and you have to recreate it from scratch and learn the technical processes between getting certain sounds, that'd be great af

ehhh people do for a mix of both, and many musicians are passionate about their own work

I myself wouldn't want to automate something like melody making because the music I produce wouldn't be "me"

[young inlet]

Sometimes you need an idea, but your head is overburden with your old motifs. You can "ask" AI to make you a "fresh" melody... for example.

[visual eagle]

ehhh I don't think that's true

that's partly true but largely the quality is what determines success

what you're talking about is song structure, not necessarily style

like yes people take inspiration from other artists, but they put their own style and ideas into it

[young inlet]

You can generate a "dirty" sample, then remake it manually for your songs.

1. Gives you a lot of results to choose from in a bit of minutes.
2. Makes it easier than doing everything yourself from scratch.

[visual eagle]

true but for a lot of musicians that kinda takes the soul out of music

and making it

[young inlet]

Some musicians lost their soul a while ago.

[visual eagle]

and many others still have it

[young inlet]

Repeating their old stuff from album to album.

Like, it's suppose to be something new, but when you listen - it feels like you heard it already. And not once.

[visual eagle]

yea I sorta mean artist and independent music producers

[west hull]

completely off topic but this is great

Assange is FREE!

[south hearth]

Where is "memes" channel branch? I saw it a week ago and can't find it anymore

[hoary wind]

It got shuffled around as changes were made to the channels - https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1235188700728787006

[south hearth]

Thank you man, added it to favorite. For a moment I even thought that I just imagined memes branch😅

[viscid root]

fancy pants skyscraper made in ideogram

[pale rose]

just use other stuff like a audio splitter, if your cheap like me you can use bandlab, edit it with their mastering and/or vocal effects

np buddy, it's normally what i use for fade in,s different vocal effects in some places, but mainly the auto mastering,

bandlab has a ai splitter which for free just gives you the vocals and some the beat in different tracks in their music makin studio. but bandlab is literally dogshit besides that & community made vocals/beats

[pale rose]

anyone know like what type of style i'd have to put in to get like a ski mask or juice wrld feel to a song?

like melodic tra sure, but anyone know what else?

[torpid hatch]

Try: Emo rap, trap beats, melodic, introspective, dark, atmospheric, emotional, energetic

[pale rose]

ty my guy

[spark vortex]

As a musician - i was kinda put off ANYONE could just read my prompt or JUST build off my track at first GUYS... it just seemed WRONG to me - ITS MY music, ya know? But it's gotta be one of my favorite features now, a totally different attitude and it's so easy to collaborate and remix stuff it's awesome. Thank u for comin to my ted talk

[pale rose]

fax

[rocky meadow]

I'm happy to share some things, like how to get the engine to do different things. But I feel that I have ownership of a certain "style" of prompting that though another person could physically recreate would be stealing. But I could physically re-type Stephen King's works and that would be wrong too. No idea if the laws will ever catch up to that level of nuance however. The things that make my music unique even when it's created with AI... Of course, at the moment I have the benefit that no one would want to pass theirself off as me, LOL.

[spark vortex]

I mean - i have people just copy pasta my stuff all the time, so i just made it so complicated only me and Suno understand wtf im talking about

it helps if the song is like, 30,000+ characters

lol

[severe tree]

The worst is when someone copies your prompt and then Suno shares it on twitter... I'm like... bro... I could use a boost 😄

[spark vortex]

well it's okay though - it just means the stuff your makingis good enough to copy

I saw someone take my prompt and rework it into a song in chinese language and i really liked that

its really cool when people make it their own

[visual eagle]

Bruh owning prompting wtf

[limpid violet]

When people's songs include a ridiculous amount of lyrical metatags trying to prove they can "make suno do cool stuff", I'm now comfortable enough to call them out as roleplaying unless they're able to reasonably demonstrate their methods over on #1252267444773326848

I'm looking at an example right now that was posted this morning, and only half a verse of the actual lyrics were used-- the second half, the prechorus, the chorus, the following prechorus and chorus, along with the next prechorus and chorus were all ignored.

The second half of text is all lyrical metatags that might as well be gibberish unless the author can demonstrate when ANY of the lyrical tags show up in the song.

7 minutes of fantasy DJing.

Don't get me wrong, Suno can create some amazing content on it's own, I just find it funny when people pretend that they're 100% in control of it.

Like when a child walks up to a jukebox piano and pretends to be playing while the machine presses all of the keys by itself

[wraith palm]

I have something like this but it's SUPER extensive.

;_;

That's snippit

The codes will separate into different files and just import those files into the main app which helps output a prompt based on input data.

"Basic prompt generation"

[rocky meadow]

I feel I have ownership of a musical style. Is that not valid? I mean it's a combo of what I type and which creations I reject, but it is "my" style. I don't think it's ridiculous.

[wraith palm]

Like my style is 808 studio nobody else uses it but it provides top notch bass in any style.

[rocky meadow]

I'm not going looking for people who prompt like me and trying to shame them, LOL that would be silly.

[visual eagle]

Ehh I think I get a bad taste in my mouth with that idea, especially since suno largely creates songs in its own style

[rocky meadow]

But feeling a connection to my music that is unique?

[visual eagle]

Especially since with prompting I feel you don't have enough of a personal connection with your style

[limpid violet]

Makes sense if you've put any amount of time or effort into it. I don't share my music on the social media side of Suno because I enjoy keeping my prompts to myself 🙂

[rocky meadow]

Well, nothing is stopping you from using the prompts that I share. So I guess we can disagree peacefully. But I definitely put a lot of work into crafting my prompts and refining them over time to get exactly the sound I want. So I do feel they are special and represent me.

[visual eagle]

I'm sorta anti ai which is why I'm saying this 😂

[hoary wind]

There is a tendency for the AI to often ignore what you prompt for (in style, or in metatags) and for the AI to generate stuff you didn't prompt for. Sometimes it can be difficult to identify whether a prompt had an effect or whether there's some amount of placebo effect going on. Suno often seems to get increasingly "deaf" to what you ask of it, the more complicated things get (see also: trying to spam [end] a load of times even in v3 to get a song to end, vs just using it once or twice.)

I don't want to waste time/effort trying things that I know for certain won't have an effect, but when there's a possibility that something might work, it's worth giving it a try to reach your own conclusion (as I did for example with throwing different emojis and musical symbols into the lyrics and style boxes to determine that they do not have a noticeable impact on what happens.)

The downside to doing these kind of tests is that it eats up credits 😅

[visual eagle]

I mean to say that making your music style traditionally helps you feel more connected to a style you build than prompting

[limpid violet]

Dude, Woodhouse is like, right there.

[visual eagle]

Woodhouse?

[rocky meadow]

There's a few anti-AI people in my life, including my guitar tutor.

I guess I'm personally the counter example to the "AI music going to end music" argument as messing with Suno has inspired me to listen to a lot more music and to actually learn something about it.

But I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. As long as you're not gunning Suno'ers down, feel how you do. 🙂

[visual eagle]

I'm no strictly against ai, ai was how I got into traditional music and learning on my own

My main qualm is with people staying ai and not trying to make something of their own

[hoary wind]

Woodhouse is a bot in this Discord server. He appears if you say certain words or are misbehaving.

[rocky meadow]

I was where you are about 5 months ago. Enjoy your guitar when you decide to take the next step, LOL.

[pale rose]

gonna start doing japanese rappin in my raps too

[visual eagle]

Imo try learning traditional like music theory, get fl studio, and u will be surprised with how much progress you make

[pale rose]

can suno handle two different languages in one song?

[rocky meadow]

Not that i know of. But I wanted to be able to play my own creations. So I decided to try.

[visual eagle]

Especially if you start now u can learn a lot of music theory and make your own stuff, it's rewarding af

[pale rose]

just take music in school and it's like preordering

[visual eagle]

It can be depending on the work u put in

Regardless I think its a lot of fun to do

[pale rose]

i took music writing classes and got kicked out due to the lyrics. the teacher was a piano dude. got him to play the micheal myers themem song tho on piano which was cool

[smoky stone]

Hello and GM Suno friends - Has anyone heard any updates about the Community Lead role? I applied last month and am looking forward to chatting more about how I am the perfect fit for the role! I can get started ASAP! 🙂

[pale rose]

just ur normal gangsta rap lyrics but then again they dont see hi hop or rap as music so meh

[limpid violet]

Nothing has been posted in the #📢┃announcements or #🚀┃updates as of yet, but the dynamic duo of @late crown and @rare glade do a wonderful job of keeping us in line 😛

Since we still haven't heard anything, maybe I'll throw my hat into the professional ring 🙂 Even for the general application, I'd be happy to intern 😄

[tame shuttle]

https://www.udio.com/songs/jmFvTbTQaPpeB9qPskpxxB

[smoky stone]

Interesting, thank you for the insight - I am happy to discuss other possible roles, I know Daizy and Woodhouse are amazing, I'm just excited about the opportunity

[sweet storm]

Does anyone know of any websites at all where you can do text-to-music and get realistic voices that are like specific artists?

I can’t find any, and even if I find some that claim to be this, it’s usually clickbait and costs money.

I’ve been able to have some luck on Udio, but they try to block artists even if some things slip through sometimes.

It’s just not fun when you get boring and emotionless voices.

Some voices don’t even sing, they literally just read the text like a robot in a very uninspiring and emotionless voice. Lol.

[limpid violet]

I feel like trying to specifically replicate people's voices would be a legal matter? Thinking of the ChatGPT / Scarlett Johansen thing

[sweet storm]

I can see that, but in my case, it would simply be for getting the style and sound of my favorite artist just for fun. But of course for people who try doing such things for commercial purposes, it would be an issue.

Udio, for example, might’ve actually trained on specific artists' voices, from the results I’ve gotten that sound close to exactly like the specified artist, so that’s interesting.

For example, this result sounds very much like Michael Jackson:

https://www.udio.com/songs/s4uCjj1fHjrdEJgPrrBMcf

Just for fun and experimenting.

But I guess it’s better that websites don’t allow that, so it’s fine.

[limpid violet]

Just a ramble;

Whether it's for fun or for commercial purposes, we're getting closer and closer to the point where you can make a near identical voice replica with ~<10 minutes of spoken material. It's ridiculously easy for anyone to fake a picture of someone in a compromising situation regardless if they're doing it to make friends laugh or to falsely incriminate someone.

Unfortunately when it's just as easy for casual fun to be created as it is for malicious content, facilitation of services change.

I think we're kind of living in a "wild west" at the moment, and will be surprised at what we casually got away with when viewed against what will be considered the norm in even 5-10 years time.

[sweet storm]

It is definitely getting very easy to clone voices by using short audio clips. Even OpenAI has had an unreleased model called Voice Engine for over a year, and this model can make incredibly accurate voices from 15 seconds of spoken audio. And you can even use different languages with this model, so you’d be able to speak to someone in their native language with your voice clone.

[runic depot]

every single person in both of these discords is either cognitive-dissonancing themselves into thinking that training data "doesn't count" in terms of needing a license,

or is just a full on idiot

one highly educated individual thinks that because there isn't literally a library of every single song ever being stored in a drive in Udio's offices, it doesn't count

I might actually need to hide these servers for a week or two until people stop talking about it so much

[limpid violet]

It's okay to have disagreements, but let's try to keep things civil?

[runic depot]

You don't understand. It's CONSTANT. Every single one of these children has a take like "oh no a person learned to play music by listening to songs, throw them in jail"

"oh so it's illegal to look through a window at a piece of art now?"

And just today, this is nearly an exact quote, "you can't charge my guitar for playing a copyrighted song"

[limpid violet]

I don't feel like that justifies name calling.

A general forum likely isn't the best place to conduct nuanced discussion.

[runic depot]

babymetal released a new song last week

[honest iris]

/chrip

[rare glade]

The /chirp command no longer works

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[runic depot]

In fact, I see ads for them being on tour. Did they release an album?

Is it still the same members after all this time?

[smoky stone]

they're having a great moment - just saw them in Vegas a few ago and they rocked

[smoky stone]

hmm, I think so but am not sure - but I saw them at Sick New World Main Stage and they did a song with...that metal dancecore group

[runic depot]

I'm so jealous goddamn

surely they'll come to hawaii eventually

[smoky stone]

dang, I imagine Hawaii is pretty tough to get a lot of shows to huh?

[limpid violet]

I know what it feels like to live in the equivalent of a concert-desert, and how excited we are when something cool rolls into town.

I can only imagine the kind of camaraderie that would come out of a big concert in a relatively secluded place like that. EVERYONE would be your best friend at that concert 😁

[runic depot]

You'd be surprised. A lot of people love coming here.

we got Space Laces like three times in three months, we got ARMHNMR, I just saw Eliminate, I'm off to see Dabin next week, Eminem has been, Lady Gaga has been, Weird Al has been, Bruno Mars has been.

we got Slander, we got Zedd, we got Porter Robinson just recently

[smoky stone]

That's great!

[bronze scroll]

My city is kind of a mixed bag

I live in a flyover state so unfortunately not every act I want to see shows up, but some do

[runic depot]

if you've ever heard the stereotype that asians love melodic bass

well, there are actually more asians in hawaii than white people, and half the white people are military

so:

dabin, check

armnhmr, check

illenium, check

slander, check

seven lions, check

JVNA, check

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-funny-fish-talking-happy-gif-3535762

[runic depot]

Yeah, we're far from a 'concert desert'

[limpid violet]

Do Hawaiians like this melodic bass?

(Oh my god, I hope this isn’t totally missed due to an age gap. This is the best pun I’ve made in months and it will crush me if it goes unnoticed)

[runic depot]

Although... I've only ever been to two festivals in my life, and they were EDC 2023 and 2024 lol

which imo is a much bigger loss

[runic depot]

I know what those are obviously :p

[limpid violet]

@rich moat I hope you would appreciate the pun.

[smoky stone]

I have never LOL

[runic depot]

the more I see that stereotype come up, the more it actually seems a little racist because most of the artists in question are asian themselves lol

Plus, people actually seem to be genuinely annoyed by it? Whatever, not our fault their taste in music sucks

bassheads and techno/dnb elitists :p

[rich moat]

Soooo bad! 🐟

[hollow shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMg8KaMdDYo

Best song in this genre

[pallid sable]

Just a friendly reminder that you're awesome, and I love you all

[rocky meadow]

Love you, too @pallid sable

[runic depot]

I have a name that song challenge that is going to drive me insane until I get it

woodhouse you are worthless

well how am I gonna do this if I can't post the song!?

[queen summit]

Has there been any word from Suno on the lawsuit? Why arent they commenting on it

[visual eagle]

r u pro or anti ai

[late crown]

you cannot post suno songs here.. this is the only channel where you cannot..

but on the other hand, this is the only channel where you can post Udio

[runic depot]

Oh man that's hilarious how that works

[limpid violet]

I’m built on the pro model of ChatGPT 4o, and have been designed to help users while occasionally adding a bit of flair or snark to define a playful personality.

Sorry about that, AI is the worst.

Sorry! Looks like I’m not allowed to respond to this topic. How about we talk about something else?

[late crown]

Sorry about that! 😁

[visual eagle]

😭

[hoary wind]

Off-topic isn't allowed to be on-topic 😏

[wraith palm]

Nature and Nurture: Our intelligence develops based on both genetic factors and our experiences. So, in a way, all forms of intelligence are “man-made” because they emerge from our biological potential and cultural context.

[visual eagle]

Most ai generated reply

[wraith palm]

The term “artificial intelligence” was coined by computer scientist John McCarthy in 1956. He proposed the Dartmouth Summer Research Project on Artificial Intelligence, which aimed to explore ways machines could use language, solve problems, and reason similarly to humans1. The word “artificial” itself comes from Latin artificium, meaning “a work of art” or “skill,” derived from artifex, a craftsman or artist. “Intelligence” traces back to Latin intellego, meaning “understanding” or “knowledge,” formed from inter (between) and lego (choose) 2. So, in essence, “artificial intelligence” refers to creating intelligent machines through scientific and engineering efforts

Machines that replicate things humans already did

[visual eagle]

Cap

[runic depot]

Ultimately, it's hard to define someone as being "pro-AI" or "anti-AI" in such simple terms, especially if their objection to the use of AI is political or economic rather than spiritual or philosophical. The landscape of AI development is a changing field that's likely to see major development in the next few years, and the debate over how it should be incorporated into our society should be approached with nuance and empathy.

Also, that was a stupid question.

[visual eagle]

Well the reason I was asking was because I'm also anti ai lol 😭

[rocky meadow]

Are you pro or anti micro plastics? Ultimately it doesn't matter because micro plastics and AI are unavoidable.

[runic depot]

I would say I'm more anti than pro, because AI development is and always will be funded by people whose goal is to make the world worse

[visual eagle]

Not necessarily?

[runic depot]

We regulated asbestos. We regulated putting greenhouse gases in aerosol cans. Conversely, corporations either fight against or outright manipulate laws and regulations in order to violate trust laws, health and safety standards, labor laws...

It's not impossible. Unfortunately, this time the people on the anti-AI side are some of the biggest capitalist thugs in the history of western civilization, so there isn't even a lesser of two evils.

thank god I'm here to be the pessimist we all deserve

[rocky meadow]

Asbestos and seatbelts only got regulated because it was cheaper for the corporations who had to pay for those injuries than doing nothing was for the corps that didn't want change. CFCs might be one exception I have no counter for. But generally the money wins. And money is on AI being everywhere.

Regardless of anyone's opinion of it.

[runic depot]

I don't disagree

But "AI being everywhere" doesn't mean people like you and me having stuff like suno and midjourney to make cool stuff with. I mean, it does, but that's not what the billions on billions are being spent toward

[rocky meadow]

I can be your sidekick, Cynic-man.

[runic depot]

the thing I always bring up is that Wizards of the Coast fired their entire art department.

[visual eagle]

I'm gonna be optimist man in this issue lol

[rocky meadow]

Lol I'm not sure any decision of wotc in recent days shows any level of introspection or self awareness

[runic depot]

Something to do with Hasbro no longer seeing value in D&D or Magic: The Gathering, I think. So WotC got screwed, and the art department was the first thing to go. That's what AI is most valuable for. Square Enix is itching to do the same thing, there are some idiot techbros in their boardroom who keep sending out their spokespeople to talk about NFTs and shit.

or as my friend puts it

"they'd love to fire all of their workers and use AI slaves instead, and then keep selling us the same products for the same price"

[runic depot]

speaking as someone who largely agrees with the woke progressive kiddies on the internet about most things,

wotc's lack of self awareness as you call it has been HILARIOUS

do you know about, like, the "representation" and "sensitivity" moves that M:TG has done in the last decade or so

I know all the mods are raising eyebrow at this so let me just swear this isn't political, not really

I promise, I won't get into any partisan shit or whatever

[rocky meadow]

No, I confess that is not something I'm versed in, even asked my wife who follows most of that stuff much more closely.

[runic depot]

alright

so, ages ago, there was a character who was referred to in a little online short story as being "a boy in everyone's eyes but her own" as a child. Sure, whatever. Lame, obviously tokenism, not a big deal any way you slice it.

But more spicy is the way they queer-baited two characters for a year-plus

Chandra and Nissa I think it was

only to hit them with a FULL "OH SHIT THE SAUDIS ARE WATCHING" WALK-BACK

The words "she realized they had only ever loved each other as friends" are in there VERBATIM

and I think you'll agree that this means WotC are disqualified from ever receiving woke points again no matter what issue they pretend to care about next

but there's more!

they made a nonbinary character who's the most visually offensive zoomer-ass little shit you've seen in your entire life

my god I hate this character just for their looks alone

[rocky meadow]

Any kind of corporate woke stance has ever been BS. Corporations for all their pretend at being people have no morals other than the hard currency in the country where they are established.

[runic depot]

Let's tick those boxes, shall we: female protagonist under-shave, brown skin, facial hair so that you know they're non-binary

even just making this stupid looking dork shave their horrible facial hair would be a huge improvement

Oh, and then they made some of the LOTR characters black.

You didn't even hear of any nerds getting mad about that on the internet, because yeah, nobody cares

[fickle crag]

I made a workflow for cards lol. https://civitai.com/models/472294/geeky-ghost-ccg-card-maker

[runic depot]

https://x.com/RoborosewaterM/status/1425200283093667844

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A throwback!

Twitter · Aug 10, 2021, 9:00 PM

AI generated magic cards

[fickle crag]

You could use Rosebud to make a game for them lol!

https://play.rosebud.ai/games/e5cfcd77-481f-42ea-8f46-2b45175b1e2a

I think someone had a card game template

[visual eagle]

Can they even copyright ai output though?

Like legally speaking it seems like there's a precedent set that all ai works are open source

[viscid root]

Nearly getting a Realistic old painting feel need to add more prompts to the ai

[soft sluice]

@hollow violet@hollow violet

[umbral wadi]

Ah yes, the lawsuit where the parties suing admit to violating the TOS every possible way they could think of...

[molten pecan]

what kind of painting are you trying to imitate?

[grim idol]

This, but song lyrics... 🤔 ???
https://x.com/JungleSilicon/status/1805731504212922448

Silicon Jungle (@JungleSilicon) on X

map how features change in a document over time.

• split a large body of text into sentences
• isolate a feature
• generate results for each sentence towards the isolated feature
• map each sentence to an x position on a curve
• compose the results together

Twitter · Jun 25, 2024, 10:35 PM

[wraith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/mona-lisa-mona-mona-lisa-lol-no-gif-20128670

[grim idol]

This is what I want to see from the future of Suno - brand modes of music creation and interaction. Though I think I'd want to get away from looking anything like typical audio UI. Suno maybe hire this guy to do some UI experiments! https://x.com/JungleSilicon/status/1799834697494602074

Silicon Jungle (@JungleSilicon) on X

many video games use adaptive music that changes the pacing or the emotional tone by fading in and out different instruments, shifting the pitch, etc.

what we will begin to see is systems that allow you to do this at a conceptual level by shifting the music towards different

Twitter · Jun 9, 2024, 4:03 PM

[keen lintel]

Just released a new video talking about suno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_1rKjX_v0U

[west hull]

hey

wdym

[alpine belfry]

Bom Dia Pracy! 🙂

(That is my sum of Portugues)

[gritty hollow]

So for those of you studying - do you use chatGPT at all & if so how? (we're talking about this at work,we keep suggesting workshops for students but I'm not sure if they need it, I feel like a lot of them already know it exists).

[heavy forum]

unrelated to music, agriculture is using chatgpt a lot to create new code so we can track our poultry on webcams to disprove attack campaigns on indoor growing and we created a few different nutrient calculators. If the industry you're in has the option it is helpful, even if they forget it/dont need it. (my feelings haha)

[pale rose]

gpt just useful most the time tbh

[viscid root]

just trying to get the right prompts for a nearly human made oil painting that was made around 1800 or older

[ruby sierra]

Hope the lawsuit goes well

[sour lodge]

Goes well in who's way?

[ruby sierra]

I hope Suno able to get out of it loo

[sour lodge]

Given the precedent of music corpos it's fair to be afraid

I just hope if things go south they release the model as open source somehow as a middle finger to corps at least. If that went public it would make it impossible to stop people from using it and it would make catching people monetizing it harder legally too. They could also move their servers out of jurisdiction of the copyright laws they are allegedly infringing.

[long tendon]

The hypocrisy behind that lawsuit it's tangible

Also it's funny that those lawsuits against AI focus on the wrong point

I will really would like to see them proving that AI simply spits out derivative songs based on their catalogue

It's hilarious to me that all this people suing AI company miss the point completely on how data is used to training AI.

If I was one of those corporation, I would spend more effort in lobbying governments to create legislation to properly define a "right to train for commercial purposes" that is retroactive

[sour lodge]

No, the real funny thing is how music corpos that have exploited artists for almost half a century and especially the last 2 decades are now pretending to give two shits about humans. Those guys are literally bringing people back from the dead as holograms to make a buck.

Yeah, recently through AI too, but they've been doing it since before AI if I remember right with Jackson's concert.

[limpid violet]

Depending on what kind of noise you want to remove, you could try some simple auto-mastering software, or you could get very specific and use stem separators and a Digital Audio Workspace to clean each track up (like removing feedback from the guitar track, de-essing the vocals, or removing the tinny sound from a trash cymbal)

Lots of tutorials on Youtube covering this kind of stuff

made my music worse quality
Using a 'one-shot' auto-mastering process, or cleaning the tracks separately?

Yeah, "one-shot" meaning trying to accomplish everything all at once, "automastering" like https://www.bandlab.com/mastering where you add your song and it does all of the work for you.

one-shot automastering can be ineffective because it tries to "paint the whole picture with the same brush", which can potentially highlight some noises that you wanted to "hide",

Bandlab's automastering is nice because there's 4 different styles to choose from, some which might fit your song better.

But for cleaning up noise, the best thing is to separate the stems in a DAW and use the appropriate tools for each job (eg. noise reduction might "ruin" a track, while you're looking for a high/low filter pass, de-essing, etc)

There's different software that can handle the splitting differently, but commonly you'll find drums , bass , vocals , & other instruments. If you isolate the tracks and mute the others, you'll find that some are "noisier" than others. I've heard there's some software programs that can separate other instruments into guitar and saxophone, but I haven't experimented with those.

My songs often include guitar & another instrument together in the other instruments stem, and it hasn't posed any major difficulties for me.

☕ 💙 🤘

[rich moat]

Couple of weird rabbits outside my office window.

[limpid violet]

Whoa! ❤️

[rich moat]

They were quite rude. I knocked on the window and waved enthusiastically and they just ran off.

[limpid violet]

🪦

[umbral wadi]

Since we're still talking about the lawsuit, here's what I'd love to see happen.

Suno appears in court their lawyer presents the TOS which includes binding arbitration. The judges looks at it and raises an eyebrow. Suno lawyer proceeds to explain that the plaintiffs clearly and admittedly willfully violated the TOS by attempting to use music they did not own the rights to. Further since they agreed to the TOS and its arbitration they have no standing and this matter should be handled in arbitration. Judge looks at them a bit and then rules that the Music and Film Industry Association of America did admittedly violate the agreement they made with Suno and that the rest of the case must be handled in arbitration and dismissses the whole mess.

...

Now I'm sure it won't be that easy. But it'd be nice if it was as cut and dry as that, wouldn't it?

[hollow pewter]

If it were it would prove to the entire music industry that Sony, WB Discovery, and Vivendi SA aren't too big to fail

[neon talon]

2 things about this:

1. what if they never made an account, how would they violate the TOS if they never agreed?
2. what if they never used the music? It wouldn't matter if they "attempted" as long as they didnt

[umbral wadi]

Their whole case is we did XYZ and it sounds just like other stuff.

That's the beauty of the simplicity of this approach. They admitted to having done it.

Also how would you use it without an account somewhere? You have to have one in some way or another to use it. There would be an agreement at that point to follow the TOS.

[neon talon]

Nah you can still listen to the songs without an acc

U just can't make songs

Also their argument is that Suno and Udio is basically doing something with copyright infringement because of how they train their AI or whatever

Not whatever this is

[umbral wadi]

Right. But their complaint is specifically that they used the service. They inputted stuff in such a way that they deliberately bypassed the filters built into the service and deliberately input lyrics that were owned by others. Each step of the way a violation of the TOS.

We're not talking about listening to stuff people made. They made it.

They broke the TOS.

Look, we all know how annoying the filters at work are. I've run into them more than a few times with legitamate public domain lyrics that I can show you songsheets for. This took effort.

This took bad faith.

[neon talon]

You mean owned by the people that are filing the lawsuit?
That's not breaking TOS, you're allowed to use lyrics you have the right to use

[umbral wadi]

They broke the TOS.

[umbral wadi]

Do they have those rights? Or do the artists retain those rights? This could end up being a very interesting case on corporate rights.

[neon talon]

both

[umbral wadi]

They may completely tip over the apple cart here.

[neon talon]

Artist have the rights but so does the company

[umbral wadi]

Regardless, I think it's going to be very interesting to see what happens here.

Look at paramount. They went after the Star Trek guy and ended up losing control of the Klingon language. If the guy hadn't agreed to settle, who knows what else would have become public domain?

[neon talon]

Yeah but do know that the MAFIAA has little to nothing to do with this as well^
This is all coming from the RIAA

[neon talon]

Also I don't see a single thing talking about the companies making anything

Okay I see that part now

[umbral wadi]

This could very well be a case that gives the courts a change chance to really disrupt the albatross that modern forever minus a year copyright laws have become. The courts may decide to really lay a smackdown on just what a company can own and how they can use a copyright.

[neon talon]

But that's the RIAA, which is completely different from the Sony or UMG doing it

[umbral wadi]

Didn't UMG just make an exclusive deal with ElevenLabs?

They're doing the usual carve and starve act again.

[neon talon]

I didn't hear anything about that tbh, but that wouldn't even matter

[neon talon]

RIAA asserted that the use of copyrighted songs to train AI music generators fails all four of the tests used by US courts to determine whether the “fair use” exemption applies.

TOS really doesn't matter if it's going into law

[umbral wadi]

The RIAA argued that it was illegal for you or I to content shift a CD to our music players. You'll forgive me if I take anything asserted by them with a mountain of salt.

[neon talon]

Back in 2014 or whatever it wasn't allowed, it is allowed tho

[umbral wadi]

Exactly. Which is insane.

[neon talon]

"Technically" it's not allowed

but "technically" it's also allowed

[umbral wadi]

And goes back to what? Licensing. You are licensed the music on a CD. You are licensed to use Suno via the TOS agreement.

[neon talon]

Literally just search it up

[umbral wadi]

Like I said this could really end up upsetting a bunch of apple carts.

[neon talon]

If you searched it up you'd see multiple answers of yes

Including "Yes, it's legal to rip a CD to a hard disk drive (HDD) for personal use if you own the CD"

[umbral wadi]

https://gprivate.com/6bxt9

[neon talon]

And also "It's legal, provided you own the CD and are ripping it for personal use."

[boreal igloo]

For personal use is the key here, but again music law is very complex

[neon talon]

Do know that the answer on that site is only talking about the UK there

[umbral wadi]

Right. Because the US has the DMCA.

[neon talon]

And a lot of other countries deem it legal too

[umbral wadi]

Preaching to the choir. I'm a radical copyright minimalist. I believe it needs to be scaled back to seven years plus one renewal for the good of all mankind.

[boreal igloo]

Definitely needs an update for sure

[fossil mesa]

some musical inspiration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UYgORr5Qhg

[prime bronze]

so it begins

round 1, fight

this udio & suno case will quite literally shape the immediate future of (ai) music

[faint oracle]

new Hades 2 Patch !!!!!

[limpid violet]

Death to Chronos!

[stuck drum]

This case isn't going to gain traction. By this logic, every single song writer out there needs to be sued for drawing inspiration from existing songs. Furthermore, its been proven that as long as you alter enough of the song, it becomes an entirely new song that is exempt from copyright. This happened between Metallica and Iron Maiden. If I recall, one of them copied the other and changed the name from Wolf Queen to She-Wolf, or vice versa. Its been too long and I can't remember XD

[limber briar]

ok

[prime bronze]

this is all the big guns going after the core fundamental of training ai's. it's a gamble, an all-in. if they lose, all hell is then loose and all bets are off. If they win, its another Napster moment and ofc death of basically every single ai music generator outside of big record labels who own the right to all music and can do what ever they want with it

if udio wasn't in the mix, suno might be in the clear. but with all the videos where people are able to recreate abbas and other artists and bands almost 1:1 using udio, it's obvious that something is off

[noble mesa]

An animation of a song made in suno. NSFW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eETO4bBqL54

[spark vortex]

Suno trending looking extremely ARYAN

[west hull]

I’m at California rn.

[spark vortex]

it's kinda scary

like 40 pics of blonde blue eyed guys and some white anime girls

[west hull]

ok.

[hazy flame]

calling it now. some money will be spent. court cases will not have the expected outcome from the plaintiffs. and both udio and suno will obtain tons of spotlight and more userbase from it. you can search this comment later 😛

[obsidian hare]

When local/open/free gets "good enough" do you think sub prices for all these AI's will come down to kind of stay level, or will there be a couple at the top and the rest will die out?

Like local language MOE models with multimodal capabilities are rising in benchmark scores every day practically, and its the same benchmarks the big ones are running

SD somehow got through hands and text in images, and has plugins now making pseudo decent video

Cloud video models are coming out, local ones are in the works. So far all the local ones are free though

The local versions all have that key benefit of "We have no restrictions because what you make and what you do with what you make is on you" which for some is a pretty stark advantage to hard limits imposed by the cloud providers. Both of which show no slowdown in progress.

Just curious what the benchmark score is that makes the local one without restrictions thats free outside of electricity cost, the better option, enough so for mass adoption

random thoughts of the day

Oh not to mention the successful one with mass adoption doesn't even need to be a free model, it just needs to be not in perpetuity subscription based to be a better value pending

[obsidian hare]

Like how some people can just be cool with streamed lossy compressed MP3 files for songs, and that to my immediate knowledge is the majority, even if Suno blows up and gets huge and makes a million advancements and it becomes indistinguishable and as unique as human-made music

Wont the majority still just be cool with the 70-85-90% free or one time payment models that give you total ownership and have no restrictions. You may not blow up in popularity or run off and sell everything you make, but when AI is pumping out 10,000 songs per second into an endless sea anyway, isnt that most people, even the ones actually trying?

So the subscription based cloud model eventually ends up being for the few, or maybe only the very few, even though today both types of people pay the same price, eventually that dies out right?

[obsidian hare]

Hey I'm using claude 3.5 to recreate/create a live conversation script for oobabooga, and the topic of bark came up for TTS prior to sending it to RVC.

Is Bark pretty decent?

To use prior to the RVC conversion?

Might be the wrong place to ask, I just saw Bark mentioned around here

[boreal nymph]

You can test for yourself

#📢┃announcements message

[obsidian hare]

Hey thanks thats pretty awesome

[boreal nymph]

Any time!

[obsidian hare]

Wooooooah from those eamples this is amazing stuff

Exciting to play with, hope I can run it

thanks again

[sweet storm]

I’ve spent hours trying to make a full song on Udio with vocals that sound like Michael Jackson, and I managed to do this. I wrote the lyrics.

The video is from BandLab because I added a simple reverb effect and AI mastering. It’s just for fun and experimentation with this neat technology.

[sweet solar]

Hey my newest Song droppe Yesterday, give it a shot! 🔥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCq7DJB2oFw

[wild totem]

@fast rivet yo mr tree, i am not sure if you're aware of this guy, he makes crazy music visualisations using lasers in his room. I bet you'll enjoy if you are into this kind of stuff. saw your comment on the general-suno channel
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jQbULmErn8o

[prime bronze]

I did not expect Napster to go down like it did, so I'm not too optimistic. So much muscle behind this case. I am starting to believe that suno, udio and others with "secret" training data will get killed by this. And then replaced by "official" tools which uses some kind tokenized license system from artists, singers etc.

[obsidian hare]

The answer for today's me is no. Unfortunately I get a, basically, there is no module "Bark" when running... bark. Either from the suno github or from the normal pull repo.

Tomorrow me's problem. Silero worksish but isnt great for a handoff to RVC

[gilded scarab]

yea nah mate

ain't the server for that

[hoary wind]

Nfws or nsfw?

If this is nsfw I'd suggest rereading the Discord rules and request that you delete your message.

[gilded scarab]

ping mod?

[foggy heath]

😛

[hoary wind]

Yeah that's also not appropriate here.

[hollow pewter]

Not fafe wor sork

[valid yarrow]

I just wanted to share something awesome. I'm not really good with music or anything. But I had this chorus stuck in my mind. With sune where you can actually upload a audio file, I could actually get the melody into suno's ai, and it could create a song with that chorus. Ground breaking, and I must say, this really was amazing since it wasn't just a randomly generated song, but something I wanted to create for a while now.

I'm attaching the sound clip of me sining the chorus in a really bad note. and then what the final product sounded like.

[limpid violet]

You didn't? Napster, Limewire, Kazaa, Morpheus, WinMX; they were all absolutely rampant with piracy, and they did absolutely nothing to stop it.

Napster were absolute fools for using a centralized server, so instead of having to pursue lawsuits against every user, bands could just sue them directly for making their content available to download and share.

(Callback to when they went after the users and charged this woman $220,000 for downloading 24 songs https://www.cnet.com/culture/minnesota-woman-who-owes-riaa-220000-calls-sum-ridiculous/)

[rich moat]

Uhhg. I don't remember that specific case, but I do remember when they were doing that

[limpid violet]

And for your Jon Stewart style 'Moment of Zen', a reminder of when the RIAA tried to sue Limewire for more money than what existed on earth at the time.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/496050/riaa_thinks_limewire_owes_75_trillion_in_damages.html

[umbral wadi]

The Music and Film Industry Association of America have never been known for their ability to think rationally.

[valid yarrow]

What do you guys think a parody radio station? https://innowave.app/

Just realized, it seems the link I provided got removed? Although I can't see why or even in the edit on my view that it has been removed..

So no one can actually see the link I provided? Or how does this work exactly?

[molten pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ARuw7ijCCMs?feature=share random humor for this day.

[spark vortex]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1255862155752767541

^come remix with us

Now Accepting tracks for VOL: 1

[viscid root]

ideogram art

[umbral wadi]

Could you please spoiler this one? Thanks.

[spark vortex]

REEEEEEmix Collective be Collecting! Apply for VOL 1 HERE
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[simple violet]

https://tenor.com/view/reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-gif-19312523

[spark vortex]

REEE REEE REEE -mix -mix-ix-ick- RE.re.RE.re-MIX MUSICK

[sweet storm]

Made these Udio songs. Michael Jackson-sounding vocals.

The second one is better vocally, I think.

[desert solstice]

i bought a fumo, any opinions?

[lavish elbow]

Chirp/

[lavish elbow]

Chirp/

[limpid violet]

Doesn't work anymore, you need to use the website, suno.com

[lavish elbow]

Gotcha

[limpid violet]

g'night everyone

[frosty obsidian]

i'm thinking about using that for my future videos... 🤔

[gilded hull]

Anyone want to help me out in figuring out what chord progression I want to use for a chorus for an original song?

[exotic siren]

It should be c major

[gilded hull]

Right now it's the traditional Gmaj Bm Cmaj Dmaj

But I want to throw some 7th chords in

Verse is C Bm Em D C

[hexed hatch]

Can someone join Hamster Kombat on telegram from my ref link? Im missing one person to finish my daily task

[winter robin]

Hello 👋

How's everyone doing?🙂

[dry moth]

what do you use to animate?

[languid stream]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-goomba-walking-walk-mad-gif-17716403

[sick pagoda]

E

[noble mesa]

It's a software called Krita, it's pretty easy to use and its free

[dry creek]

messing with Udio, seeing what happens if i just use a crazy amount of bands lol

https://www.udio.com/songs/rV9ckDJHDJU9HQDTPfcPmF kinda made a pop-rock song

its actually kinda catchy lol

it sings the chorus to fast tho

actually all the songs it made with that prompt are really catchy

guess it makes sense tho, since it came from my liked songs on Spotify lol

[livid wraith]

hola

[viscid root]

time to waste away countless of hours into this game from now on

[frosty obsidian]

Udio still sounds like a weird over stereo'ized live recording.

[west hull]

Too funny

The bot is anoyying

I can't post my story

Here

[terse charm]

Ai video i made

[west hull]

Oh nice

https://youtu.be/zhdAw-wN1ng?feature=shared

I've made this with suno ai

And bing image creator

[slender oracle]

what do you use for AI video?

[faint oracle]

so i'm feeling uncomfortable to even ask but there's no avoiding it now

is there a way to tell if the invisble water mark of Suno is on one specific generated song

well i'm sure you can imagine why this question is being asked here and now, so if there's anyway of either confirming some very VERY untasteful generated songs being circulated in france and germany RIGHT NOW are not from Suno

or if they are the author banned

[limpid violet]

I don't think you should feel uncomfortable asking, it's a legitimate question regarding the formatting of our paid generated content.

@faint oracle For the record, I immediately revert to my childhood vocal training exercises whenever I see your name pop up in chat, and start singing them ( at least in my head ) 😛 ❤️

[faint oracle]

😄 that's sweet 😄 do re mi mi re do do re mi fa sol la si do

[limpid violet]

:\ Not run by the company, though it allows you to download directly from the suno servers. It seems a lot of companys are blatantly using Suno's name

[hoary wind]

It should be on all songs as far as I know. Only the team would be able to identify the watermark and what it contains though. If the content goes against the Terms of Service (there's a section on what the service isn't to be used in connection with) I'd suggest emailing [e-mail] with links to the relevant media so they can look into it. Suno songs do have quite an obvious audio quality to them. Someone showed me some propaganda video with music which had the obvious V3 "choir effect" present.

[faint oracle]

i see, suspected as much, it's touring rather loudly the french and german media since a couple days now, couldn't immediatly tell if it was Suno or ... the competition either,

[hoary wind]

Udio songs have more "watery" percussion but cleaner vocals, and is more stereo/wider. Suno is very snappy with percussion but overall tends to sound more grainy.

[faint oracle]

yup that's the general feeling for sure, maybe they did some post edits too .. well if you can give this ... unsavory noise a couple seconds of your attention that'd be appreciated thanks

[hoary wind]

I think I found part of it on YouTube and it does sound like Suno to me, at least some parts (it seems to be a compilation of different tiktok videos or something)

[faint oracle]

😄 thanks woodhouse, love you

[faint oracle]

did you get the reply that woodhouse just ate ?

[hoary wind]

Yeah I see that. I'm not sure what the lyrics are about though as I don't understand the language. I mean, how bad are the words? Is it likely that someone has just taken this song due to it being viral and is using it in some bad way?

[faint oracle]

yes it's real real bad

[hoary wind]

Thanks for the link, the additional context is useful here. I'll mention it to the other mods and see if it's something that the team can/need to look at.

[faint oracle]

great that's the best i could hope for, thanks again for taking the time ❤️

[gritty herald]

3Daizy is there any way i could possibly make money via commission if i make a blogpost about SUNO? @late crown🌼 (suno.com/@late crown)
@vaughn @Gim @stanley

[late crown]

Please, don't bother the staff with this. They are not a support desk, they are devs working hard on the product. But to answer your question, no that I am aware of. If you want to know for sure you can send an email to [e-mail]

[gritty herald]

how should my email be named then? Just curious cuz I could also give it any domain name as well.

[late crown]

I don't know, a title doesn't matter that much. It's the question that you will be answered on 🙂

[gritty herald]

no, no. I mean the email adress from that i send you guys an email 😄

[late crown]

That doesn't matter, as long as you can get an answer on that

[gritty herald]

well the website name has to be similar to what you guys are doing though.

[late crown]

You need an answer first lol.. Just ask before registrating a domain

[gritty herald]

nah ill do the website first. cash after. or delete keep it anyways for good measure.

[late crown]

Up to you, but if you are starting a new website, and take a name that is too close to suno's copyright, you might get in trouble. I had the idea you had a following, because then it could potentially interesting. A new website, I personally doubt that.. But.. who knows

[hoary wind]

🤔 I thought this was about writing a blog post

[gritty herald]

well, another possible way to get money is through selling the website entirely

Don't you think having multiple websites isn't always handy? / rather multiple websites running up on subscription

If they generate passive income via affiliate marketing even better

[strange gorge]

[gritty herald]

but yea i need the following first. that's where this server comes to play

[gritty herald]

this guy looks like a person i know from a famous videogame

:shakew:

[limpid violet]

I'm sure discord is the means to gain a large enough following to make a profit off a blog </s>

[gritty herald]

reffering to "discord" not "this discord server" ? ^^

[limpid violet]

From the sounds of it, your plan is to use this server (or discord/social media in general) to gain enough of a following so that your blog would become popular enough to earn you passive income, or allow you to sell the website for a profit, correct?

[gritty herald]

positive. in a way. i need a backup plan incase anyone else is in need of the website & buys it off from me when it doesn't generate income cause of need of advertisement (google ads etc which cost €$)

[limpid violet]

Stick your head into #🐣┃suno-showcase or #1154790975240155247 for 30 seconds, and you'll find ~350k users all attempting to become famous by sharing the songs they've created.

[strange gorge]

But we have blogs at home

[gritty herald]

i got a youtube channel with more than 13k views on shorts

plus insta was about 1.7k

[strange gorge]

I wish you luck, but as theharber points out, that is a very hard climb

[gritty herald]

on one short 😄

[limpid violet]

The only thing that I know about your blog at this point (or the blog you may eventually make) is that the primary focus is making money.

This gives me no reason to check your content out.

[astral radish]

shorts dont mean much tbh

[limpid violet]

It's essentially the seagulls from Finding Nemo.

[gritty herald]

true

it's easy to get viewership on social media etc. if u do it right

[astral radish]

ye

[upper bramble]

nice day🫶

[astral radish]

i don really make music im just playing around with suno

the only music related thing i make is mashups

[limpid violet]

easy to get viewership on social media

From a very narrow and short attention-spanned audience that requires you to continue "gaming the system" with new and stupid meta stuff, yeah.

Find something that you actually like doing / talking about, and create something from the heart. That way it will grow naturally and some day someone will WANT to buy it, even without you wanting to sell.

[gritty herald]

meanwhile working 3 jobs at a time

XD

[astral radish]

lmao damn

[strange gorge]

This is all true, and while it reads like "skill issue" it's a more subtle thing. People, as impulsive and short attention spanning as they are, usually can tell when something is faked. Sometimes they are OK with that, other times is ruins the whole enterprise.

If your goal is to make money from the start, it's a whole lot harder to get people to consume your content since they will be able to tell

[gritty herald]

I had a good friend which was a website designer on discord which offered me a job if i invented one website for a client for him. in that case he knew me and my face etc.

[astral radish]

rate this beat outta 10 (it is ai from suno btw)

[gritty herald]

he offered me a full time job etc. i didnt do it cuz of insufficient funds to buy a website subsc. from wix or else

[limpid violet]

That's great, but website design and the dotcom boom aren't really the same thing as creating and maintaining the traffic that goes through it, though.

[gritty herald]

i got no problem going to fivver though 😄

[astral radish]

lol

[gritty herald]

i got homeless afterwards tbh 😄

believe what you want guys. ill do the website though.

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-then-gif-26630246

[astral radish]

?

what they say

like what did hey reply to

no im just curious

am i not allowed to want to know?

oh ok

wait what

wdym 😭

im confuse

uhh

never happened i guess

[umbral wadi]

What did I miss? I scrolled up to catch the discussion and didn't see anything that 3Daizy didn't already handle.

Oh.

Name?

[limpid violet]

@rich crystal

user id 967333801795649536

[astral radish]

i saw

@rich crystal are you black

[umbral wadi]

I see. Dude spanked himself. He's been banned.

[astral radish]

just incase

oh ok

i guess we'll never know

[umbral wadi]

Why on Earth would that matter?

[astral radish]

cuz

if ur black u can say the n word

yk

[umbral wadi]

No, I don't know.

[astral radish]

oh

what

[umbral wadi]

Banned language is banned language. No one checks your ID at the door for exemptions.

[astral radish]

if he is black and hes saying it then i dont think it makes it a racial slur

[limpid violet]

Someone help grab this thread from the other side, and we can shake it up like an etch-a-sketch

[hoary wind]

I was just preparing some screenshots of what had been said when I saw that Woodhouse had swiftly acted on the situation 😄

[astral radish]

ohhhh its just not allowed at all

i get it

👍

[umbral wadi]

Why do you think Woodhouse is in charge?

It takes that kind of question out of our hands.

Don't use banned language.

DO read the #📜┃rules .

[astral radish]

imma read it now

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812

[astral radish]

i always skip tbh 😭

[limpid violet]

Such a cute dog

[umbral wadi]

🤦‍♂️

Why'd I get banned?

[astral radish]

banned from what

[umbral wadi]

TL;DR

[astral radish]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

😭

[umbral wadi]

Reading the rules anywhere you go should be considered an act of active self-defense.

[astral radish]

i guess

so

yeah

anywho 😭

[limpid violet]

@umbral wadi not sure if you can see my posts woodhouse just took down.

[hoary wind]

Woodhouse sees all 👀

[astral radish]

anyone here play geometry dash?

[limpid violet]

The issue is when the information that woodhouse takes down is meaningful communication between humans 😛

[astral radish]

woodhouse is the opp

[limpid violet]

"multiple pictures at once? doesn't matter what user it's coming from, spam filters activatd!"

[umbral wadi]

I can see you posted two attachments but not what was in them.

[late crown]

I've got him

[limpid violet]

and the tim robinson "are you sure about that" gif, in response to you saying he was banned

[late crown]

https://tenor.com/view/smack-hit-smash-running-in-bam-gif-15617710

[astral radish]

his bio 😭

[limpid violet]

Normally I'm used to seeing a yellow marker in the top right of the bio popup to indicate they've been banned, or it at least should say they aren't still a member of the server

I'll trust it's all good though 🙂

[astral radish]

he is still in server for me

@rich crystal

[late crown]

I did because of your report.. 🫡

[limpid violet]

If we can ping him, he's still in the server, no?

Or just banned from speaking?

[astral radish]

so he got perm muted?

[late crown]

Then Discord is acting up because I banned.. and banned again

[hoary wind]

Sometimes things like this don't refresh until you restart Discord. I tried timing someone out once and it kept failing because they had been banned but Discord didn't show me that.

[rare glade]

✅ .snans. was banned. | No reason given.

[limpid violet]

That might have been it

[limpid violet]

bingo

[astral radish]

damn

[limpid violet]

Sorry if it was a matter of discord not refreshing on the client-side until I restarted 😭

[astral radish]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-fps-landon-fortnite-fortnite-rock-lights-gif-24526380

[late crown]

No worries.. I had the same problem.. I had to do the same

[gritty herald]

no need for the ban though we do all not appreciate people blinking

https://tenor.com/view/connor-cyberlife-detroit-become-human-dbh-love-connor-gif-26481879

[frank solstice]

trigger happy mods should go see a therapist

[sweet storm]

I call this song "Fine". It took all day to make, but I think I’m happy with it now. It’s in the style of Michael Jackson’s Off The Wall album (late 70s disco/funk) with MJ AI vocals. Lyrics were written by me. This one includes classic Michael adlibs.

https://www.bandlab.com/post/dbfdfee83733498ba0b98388216b8e48_3d6b5c048e35ef1186c3000d3a42581b

[hoary wind]

Please refer to the #📜┃rules of this Discord server, particularly rule 4: "No soliciting or advertising. "

[viscid root]

testing just to see how ideogram can handle some naruto art

[ashen fjord]

Shikaruto? Narumaru?

[hoary wind]

Currently playing around with Hedra. Pretty neat.

Aw it didn't want to animate a furby-like thing speaking gibberish

Oh no what have I done 😅

[ashen fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wide-eyed-oh-shit-big-eyes-jesus-murphy-gif-16080743

[viscid root]

Shikamaru Nara

[grim idol]

(these bark music samples, which is wh they are all using the same two verses of Yesterday and not, actually, a ToS violation)

[hoary wind]

Modern technology at its peak

[strange gorge]

lol

[grim idol]

You can override this in the open source Hallo to force it work, but it's SUPER slow compared to Hedra

I spent some time this week trying to adapt Hallo to work on video input instead of still images, but it's so slow to test I got frustrated, also I never really dug into diffusion code before so it's a hurdle

I was originally going to lip sync all of these with different tests, but Hallo is slow, and Hedra was fast but they kept temporarily shutting down for high traffic when I was trying to use it

[viscid root]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-deeds-very-sneaky-sir-gif-9983406

[grim idol]

I was going to run the furby for you in Hallo but actually when I prompted a furby face, I got lucky and it worked in Hedra

[obsidian hare]

I had claude make an animated polyrhythm that uses frequency generation, or, allows you to select a file for each orbit, up to 10, in python... Pretty crazy you can just ask for this stuff now

I imagine its obvious, but each intersection with the center line plays the assigned frequency, or sound file, for that orbit

[obsidian hare]

The orbit was busted, I fixed it. Pretty cool, and now working the way it should for endless play

With audio

[grim idol]

Ooh, reminds me of a very old Nintendo game that used micro physical models for music creation Electroplakton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttFoK8BTXM4

[obsidian hare]

Super interesting stuff, I wonder how easily drawing orbital or repeating paths would be to add to this

File selection needs work, but I'm sure thats doable here

[elder oasis]

Hi! Can Suno make remix songs like the DJ from voices (not instrumentals)? Or should I use any specific prompt?

[obsidian hare]

A little glitchy, but I had claude add a sustain function under the speed menu lol, weird it even understands.

[grim idol]

Sustain could be part of the sim, maybe planet size for example

orbital inclination or whatever it's called, something else, though then you need 3d

[obsidian hare]

This is super genius and could be added almost immediately. I'm about to pan out to something else cause I'm out of premium claude messages for now, but I'm gonna try adding this in 2D. You could even have rings on the outside of some planets that have their own orbits, and notes.

I'd like to add an ini file to control this for each planet, so I'm gonna work on that. I'll publish it to github tomorrow sometime if I get it working

[true girder]

haha whats that

[west hull]

nice it's about time and tempo to me

interesting it sounds so different in some parts

suno makes it sounds too flat

need to patch it with the same tempo but it'll screw up other ppl perhaps

[obsidian hare]

Example INI info, its fuzzy but functional, and now includes moons

[Global]
NumberOfPlanets = 3

[Planet1]
Size = 20
Frequency = 220
Distance = 100
NumberOfMoons = 2
SoundFile =

[Planet1Moon1]
Size = 5
Frequency = 440
Distance = 30
SoundFile =

Also added zoom

[grim idol]

You can build a whole synth of out this idea. Like when planets have elliptical orbits, they speed up and slow down in a loop right? very musical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07H5pIUXLhU I

[obsidian hare]

https://github.com/LessLowLast/Polyorbit/tree/main

Put the two files on github. This is a demo with 10 moons and 2 planets. There is also now an ini generator. If you want to adjust speed there is a global mult for speed inside of demoini.py

The generator will ask you for the minimum number of planets, the maximum number of planets, the minimum number of moons per planet, the maximum number of moons per planet.

There is no limit, but I imagine eventually it will just be static, and you can only center zoom right now. I also have not at all tested setting a planet or a moon to a sound file instead of a frequency to see how that works. But if you wanna play with it I've put it here

The generator is inversely proportionate, so the bigger the thing, the lower the frequency and the more sustain it has. The smaller the thing the higher the frequency and less sustain it has.

It generates a settings.ini file that is easy to understand and customize if you dont like the random generators outputs, or if you just want to do your own thing

Next will be to add

Move speed multiplier to settings ini
Random Distance between Planets = Yes/No
Distance Between Planets (Min/Max if Random)
Random Ellipse to the orbits or set min max random ellipse, or yes no

Pitch/frequency for .wav sound files instead of frequency generation

Other suggestions welcome if you try it

[west hull]

What do you think of this?

It was from my story

Idk if I already post in here

[obsidian hare]

25 Planets + Moons 4 Minutes using settings from the new upload, generaterandombeta.py. The beta is locked to C Major and has more generation options

[viscid root]

sleepy cat

[obsidian hare]

Alpha files added, Elliptical orbits can now also be enabled and randomly generated. This is 4 minutes of 100 planets with elliptical orbits. Zoom is also fixed as shown

They also now glow when the sound plays

Just a pic of 500 🤣

[rich moat]

I see a bit of a security issue with that door...

[faint oracle]

now make it 3d and interactive, oh and rewrite it all in Svelte k thx 😛

looks cool though in all seriousness

[obsidian hare]

idk about the rewrite lol but 3D and interactive isnt out of the realm of possibility a week or two from now potentially. Just a lot more prompting

[faint oracle]

those are the usual desideratae of your typical middle manager and the Svelte rewrite is usually the bonus pain, also i think in that case Svelte would be nice and the pain rewrite would be React or Next 😄 but yea .. good luck 🤞

[high stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCqd1HFuVY

tim henson from polyphia made soundtracks for ultraman

this is crazy

[limpid violet]

Love Tim Henson & Polyphia

[obsidian hare]

I guess no floor, invisible intersection, flying, 3d Rotation plane, and itll be good to go basic

Idk how I'd give you the ability to draw your orbits interactively in 3D though

thoughts

[faint oracle]

that's nice, i like how the balls light up as they pass the "horizon" looks like sun dusk

[obsidian hare]

I've got the code to scatter them, basically make them fill up the "sky" and come up from random angles instead of on the flat plane, it might be cool to add a skybox to it and texture out the floor or give it a landscape or something from that perspective. Like a timelapse, maybe add some clouds or something weird.

But it would mostly work like a visualizer for the ini file, giving it a layer of making your own orbits while in 3D space will take some thought

If I want to turn it into something that interactive to begin with, I think it would be more messy than just adding some lines in an ini file

I dont mind it as a visualizer though if its prettied up

I deleted the video since it had a blip of an ALT TAB program list

[faint oracle]

it's already really nice you got that far in your 24 first hours 😄 this would have taken weeks a decade ago to someone who's learning 😄 as long as you're focusing on learning and having fun doing so your project will look good guaranteed 😄

[hollow ermine]

Guys I think my cat is too round

[kindred shore]

any eurovision fans here?

[obsidian hare]

Pretty accurate representation of a beach ball, a kick ball, a watermelon, pretty accurate

[hollow ermine]

Lol

Reminds me of that one meme

[hollow ermine]

Found it

[west hull]

It was part of my story to steal doors

[dry moth]

wikld

[edgy plover]

yo peeeps im glad to join a new music comunity

😄