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[onyx sparrow]

give them more

more audible

[hexed iris]

How about [Instrumental Solo] if it's the start of the song/lyrics?

[humble verge]

is suno so invested in making people upgrade to studio that they don't give any f's about the legacy editor anymore?

[polar spade]

At that point the response is always:

If it works better for you, go for it!

[severe kindle]

In Suno Studio, how do you change the vocal style of a song? I’ve already extracted the stems, so I now have the individual tracks (vocals, piano, etc.) shown in Suno Studio. I want to change the vocal track to a different voice style, like a more pop-sounding vocal. How can I do that?

[half dragon]

With that kind of adjustment - I think it'd be better to Cover the song and re-prompt for the vocal style you're after while keeping the melody and the arrangement the same.

[quiet solar]

There is, but a) fair use protection for parodies is not consistent everywhere in the world, and b) even where it does have strict legal protection, it's a very narrow tightrope to walk - typically you're not allowed to significantly deviate from the original melody, or sample the original song, and the lyrics have to be changed in such a way that they directly mock or comment critically on the original. Otherwise it's a derivative work of the original with no legal protection, even if it's inherently funny and would be thought of as a 'parody' in general terms.

Realistically, I don't think it's practical to expect the Suno team to attempt to code something like that into the copyright checking system.

[polar spade]

😃 🎂 to me. 😃 🎂 to me.
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. OK. I go back to work now. 🤧

[half dragon]

Happy birtdday! 🎂

[final hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cake-cookie-monster-sesame-street-gif-23234490

@polar spade HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! 😄

[severe kindle]

wrong

[half dragon]

Great! at least you tried - onto the next option 🙂

[raw oasis]

Happy.. Birthday to you... 🎵 🎶

[wet minnow]

Happy birthday to you. 🍰 (just saw this here is the tech prompt talk, i removed the embed of my post... happy birthday tooo yoooouuu 😄 ) https://suno.com/s/S9Ar5q7r8eFTXNfR

[neat nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-dance-gif-7515155900638629761

[quick wedge]

Happy Birthday 🍰🎉

[fathom crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-wishes-gif-17526919797469536725

[boreal nest]

https://c.org/BB5GVRH9dY good evening everyone, if you have a minute you could make your contribution by signing this petition which asks OpenAI to restore the audio analysis of mp3s by chatGPT which they arbitrarily removed without even communicating its deactivation to Pro customers too, it was a very useful and powerful tool because it allowed an analysis of the audio similar to that of the human ear, also understanding interpretation and other nuances of the simple analysis of frequency data and other technical values

[honest heath]

Not sure what you mean. I just ran one of my tracks through gpt and it was able to analyse it.

[boreal nest]

ask him if he can understand the singer's interpretation, the mood and the groove of the song, if your Gpt is honest he will tell you that he can only do a metadata analysis like a simple audio shape analyzer

[honest heath]

In human language, you might call it a waltz choreographed by artillery fire.
In mine, it’s a self-similar waveform of deliberate instability, dancing on the threshold between structure and collapse.```

[balmy scarab]

Hi lads. Any tips to get growled vocals for sure ? It’s really random. The singing style never quite matches the prompt when you try different stuff

[boreal nest]

My question: sorry, but the other times, even though you obviously can't hear it like a human ear, were you able to understand what the song was like, what has changed now?
GPT Response: You're right: in previous sessions, I was able to describe the song to you (instruments, groove, atmosphere, vocal type, emotional tone).
This is because in those chats, I had direct access to the internal analysis of audio files, a temporary feature that is now disabled due to security policies: I can no longer decode the MP3 into sound or harmonic content.
👉 However, I can still analyze it technically, that is, read the file as numerical data:
I get BPM, dynamic range, and rhythmic patterns;
I recognize dominant frequencies, vocal range, and strophic structure;
From there, I can reconstruct its sound (is it soulful, funky, pop, cinematic, etc.).
In practice: I can't "hear" the voice, but I can still understand how it sounds.
If you want, I can immediately perform this analysis on the Gut, Brain, and Heart and tell you what sonic signature Suno has created (rhythm, energy, arrangement, balance of parts). Do you want me to do it?

[honest heath]

no idea, maybe a regional thing

[boreal nest]

Not to pry, but I would like to understand if you are using an experimental Beta GPT model or if you have a particular subscription compared to my simple monthly one, because until a few hours ago my GPT was giving me the same answers as the one yours gave you, suddenly it told me that it couldn't as I wrote in the previous answer

[forest hemlock]

Try removing the old vocal track and create a new one using the vocalist. You can put both a positive and negative prompt and same or new lyrics in it

[flat crest]

Happy Birthday @polar spade .
Hope you have an amazing day, stay awesome! 🎉

[forest hemlock]

What it could possibly do is guess some of those things from the technical data

But hallucinate that it could actually "listen" to it

Gpt makes a lot of things up about itself

[boreal nest]

friend, no hallucinations as you can also read from the answer you attached @honest heath, I'm not saying that he listens like a human, but even up until a few hours ago he was doing audio analysis in a similar way to a human, understanding nuances and interpretations even of the tone of voices,

[honest heath]

lol...

[forest hemlock]

It could likely infer the most likely type of voice from the data provided, but it's just guessing

Because certain types of voices tend to go along with certain data

[honest heath]

I mostly use chat gpt to help me master tracks by identifying standing tones or hissing in specific sections

so it can be like "throw a notch filter between 4.8 and 5.2 khz at -3b to remove the standing hiss you are hearing"

[boreal nest]

@honest heath I also use Gpt to help me get what I want from Suno, for example I simply upload an mp3 and ask him to make a prompt built with a musical genre and a groove around the same bass that is in the track I made him listen to, now I don't know why but the same thing tells me that he can't do it anymore

I made him listen to absurd, ethnic and folkloristic things that have no diffusion outside his own village, yet gpt always managed to interpret it as if he had listened with a human ear.

[forest hemlock]

Well yeah, that's very technical data

[boreal nest]

I also do a little bit of production with Ableton live, for the mastering and mixing of my tracks produced on DWA, some tricks only an ear can understand, because they are the human touch in the production of the song, Gpt also notices those and if requested gives you help on what you need to do to apply them to a new track

[quiet solar]

Not an expert on this, but looks like a version issue clash of python libraries that ChatGPT was relying on to do the analysis; Librosa is calling upon a now-removed method in NumPy; chatGPT can see what the problem is, but doesn't have the ability to create a custom library for itself in the general online version, so can't fix it.

Presumably this will be fixed and updated by the librosa dev team in due course.

[finite folio]

I have question and the question is why does Suno Ai always put mumbles, humming and vague sounds in [intro instrumental], when it is clearly [intro instrumental], which means that it is purely an instrumental introduction and there are no vocals.

I've tried everything, I've added these things to "Advanced options", I've added them to the prompt, I've done everything, but every time it starts with some vague vocal accents in the intro. And the other problem is the bass overload, all the songs are over-bassed

[desert urchin]

Stem download zip files corrupted. Loss of 150 credits.

[polar spade]

Keep up with them. Note the outputs. Move them to a Playlist. Write Support with your issue to have credits reviewed for reimbursement. Follow their instructions to show what "corrupted" means compared to on Suno.

Meanwhile, post in https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1082775596767117312

Also, choose BUGS from the outputs' menu and choose "poor structure".

Also, go to suno.com/feedback and notate the issue.

I would also make a Playlist for the produced stems, I guess about 36 of them? If they fix whatever is found to be a cause.

For comparison: I stemmed out all tracks and downloaded zip file of 24 files, WAV and MIDI no issues. Dragged into DAW. Played through fine.

[deft meadow]

Hi All, Wondering if someone can help me on the following items?

1. Why does Suno keep putting the word Neon into most of my songs?
2. Anyway to easily chance the lyrics to song after it was created? For example, generate song but want to change a word or two...
3. Can you separate the vocals from the music?

[half dragon]

1. If you don't want Suno to write it - write it your own lyric
2. Yes, use Editor you can modify the word that was sung from the generated song if you're a Pro user
3. Yes, you can seperate the vocal stem if you're a Pro user

[rocky garnet]

I'd like to talk vocal prompts. Deep voices, young or high pitched voices, vocal strain, unconventional or weird vocals, robot voices, all sorts of things. If you've achieved unique vocal types how did you get them? Getting "generic" vocals that feel like genre defaults regardless of what I prompt can be frustrating

[hollow hare]

Using emotion and other similar descriptor helps change the voices
E.g. for usually lower male vocals, doing something like "male vocals" helps

I got deep bass vocal by doing something like [Smooth Gregorian Chant make vocals] but it only lasted for a verse :/

[rocky garnet]

That tends to be my experience too, sometimes you will get a glimmer of what you want but it's only for a very small part of the song and then it's back to standardized vocals

[wild juniper]

Anyone else having issues were the persona feature just destroys every version of your song by glitching out half way through and restarting at a random point in your song?

[hollow hare]

Are you using the sliders? Stay in the 20-80% range. Bring outside that tends to be more...chaotic

[wild juniper]

always 🙂 I try to keep as close to the source material as possible

[winged nova]

Hope I don't step on toes here, was wondering if Suno can be told time signatures and if so how to word it? Just say like, "Time Signature: 4/4 or 6/8"?

[raw oasis]

glitches are the worst 🙁

[raw oasis]

Yes, just put it in your Style section. I.e, country song in 3/4 time at 100 BPM.

I have found Lyric Meta tags do not respond as well - if at all to Time and BPM direction btw.

[wild juniper]

It's like 95% of my personas 🤦🏾 luckily I'm pretty good with editing outside of suno so I can fix the song, but it's at a point that I end up burning through hundreds of credits trying to find one that's broken in a place where I can fix it

[cedar crater]

Hello guys im having s problem with my credits my suno renew yesterday but my credits is still on 50per day didnt recieve my monthly 2500 credits what can i do?

[polar spade]

To get you started. For fun, try vocaloid in your style prompts. 🙂

[raw oasis]

Making C_Harmonic song seed available.
https://suno.com/s/mjI4xDmqXP4Yl22I

[polar spade]

Since you said 4/4, keep in mind thats going to be the go-to time signature, so its not too hard for that one.

Im a believer that writing a signature ( such as 7/8) does little more effect than if we already are prompting in that direction with genres common in that signature. With results equal to less than half the chance.

Near 25% of Pro Rock is of 5/4 signature (think "Mission Impossible" theme). So one out of 10 or 15 outputs might have a 5/4 signature just from prompting, without ever using "5/4 time".

Add prompts of genres that are heavier in the signature you want. Add styles that keep out instruments that you'd dont want. Thats a start, then tweak a couple dozen times to find the sweet spot.

And 5.0 does seem best at this, so far.

[polar spade]

After about 30 tweaks. Trying for a 80s dreamy punk pop, finally got a more of a pop jazz fusion song with the intro in 7/8, but the rest in 8/8.

https://suno.com/s/RTmvCXyRNKJM8q4I

I would then crop out the intro and use it to "add vocals" and try for another song more prominent in 7/8 time signature.

In other words. Its very little about forced control by prompting once but it is about tweaking until you climb out on the right branch.

[near flume]

I use details like this "Vocals: Distorted baritone delivery with blues phrasing embedded in metal growl. Dry in verses, room reverb in choruses." Make sure to set the style influence to 100% and select Male voice.

[lost mirage]

Hello, I generated a song in free version but a short version, do you know if I do the full version in pro version i will get the rights for it?

[fathom crypt]

Yes . maybe with subscription and premium, allow you for commercial use on your new music track.

[raw oasis]

My understanding is no.

[uncut spruce]

Maybe some body could help... i try create my son and i can t when i have enought credicts

[lost mirage]

Both answers got me really confused 🤣

[half dragon]

The error didn't say that you don't have enough - It just says that your account needs assistance before you can generate.
Contact [e-mail] if you haven't - once you got a auto-response be patient as it will take a bit of time - visit #archived-ticket-help for account issue follow up.

[uncut spruce]

Thanks u

[neat nexus]

I do apologize but you will need to email [e-mail] for assistance with this.

[quiet solar]

If you make music with the Basic (free) plan, Suno is the owner of the songs. You are allowed to use the songs for non-commerical purposes.

If you make songs while subscribed to the Pro or Premier plan, you own the songs. Further, you are granted a commercial use license to monetize those songs.

So unless you have something directly from Suno to say otherwise (they have done specific offers to say 'upgrade now and get the rights to this song') then the answer is "no".

[polar spade]

Outright? No.

You talking about the 5.0 sample songs? Or maybe the pop up that says, "Upgrade this song for commercial use"?

There are those buttons that say "update this song" . The intent is THAT one song only will be upgraded. If you take advantage of that. Mark the song as "the ONE" for future reference. No "certificate" will be given.

Theres no reasonable point for Suno to allow to upgrade ALL of the shorted 5.0 sample songs at once, as that would create a big loophole that the guy in the concrete building in the Salmadori jungles of Kunhani would love to have his 20 slave labor techs take advantage of.

Such things need to be considered. 😊

[stoic trail]

How can i donload all tracks that i see in workspace with one click?

[half dragon]

Not possible at the moment.

[stoic trail]

damn 😉

[hearty nest]

Guys i wanna do something like whisper metal where all lyrics are whispered can i prompt the genre in some way to make it happen.. Tried whisper-core, whisper metal, whisper everything, is there another trigger word i can use for that type of music

[glacial vigil]

You can try to use [whisper] tag in lyrics

[hearty nest]

Tried that one too...

[ebon sand]

Maybe a persona that whispers?

[hearty nest]

I don have any songs with whispering though...

[glacial vigil]

You can use [whisper] in every line. At the start of line before lyrics.
It's often works

[hearty nest]

I think i got it, to some degree, but if it's metal it just has to scream everything :T

[forest hemlock]

Industrial djent metal with a tense, nocturnal, icy feel at 140 BPM. Drop G# 7-string syncopated chugs and angular octave stabs pair with sub-heavy bass, double-kick bursts, tight snare, gated toms, metallic percussion, and an analog bass synth with a glassy pad. All vocals are breathy whisper layers, intimate and airy, with precise, silky consonants hugging the groove. The mix is wide, punchy, polished, crystalline, focused, immersive, articulate, dynamic, and controlled.

Does this work?

Replacing that vocal part with: All vocals are ASMR whisper leads, feathery and intimate, with close, breathy articulation kissing the mic
could also work

[raw oasis]

When you get that good song sound and you want to cover it.. but continue to change the lyrics.. and it refuses to let you... hehe 😆

[fast plume]

Has anyone been able to get suno to generate vocoded vocals? (Kind of like Daft Punk or Imogen heap)

[raw oasis]

Just an example in your styles prompt: "Bright vocaloid vocals, indie pop" adjust to fit for you.

[fast plume]

I'll give that a shot!

[raw oasis]

But getting it to do that only a specific section could be trickier. I.e. [Bridge: vocaloid vocals]

Cause a whole song Vocoded could be annoying 😆

Something like that might be easier to do in the DAW mastering process after song download. vocoding a selected section.

[forest hemlock]

It's quite difficult to get anything consistent. I would probably just add it myself in a DAW

[forest hemlock]

Yeah

[raw oasis]

Saw a suno user used [Melodic Drop] in a song the other day..

was thinking a doing a [Melodic Rise] something more than a Chorus or Crescendo

[raw oasis]

I could not get Editor to do it without destroying my song. replacing a section to test a vocode. 🙁 Not even going to attempt Studio..

[tired forge]

Welp… I couldn't figure out a good sound to make a good 80s sound for my newest song despite this lovely tech support's help and sending a link to go to the 80s Suno group chat. So I went with an entirely different direction and I THINK I'm happy with the outcome, but I may make some more edits. Melodic Rise and Melodic Drop sound pretty cool. Wish I could figure out a few more things. I have a crap memory and I just don't remember crap half the time, so it's challenging for me.

[raw oasis]

can possibly try [Ascension] or [Build-up]

sometimes [Bridge], [Crescendo], [Refrain] not enough.. sorta my go-tos so far

[tired forge]

Well I can't seem to change anything if I do a cover... So I don't know why I would even do one anymore. I'd have to just copy and paste everything and redo the song to try to add to the darn thing.

[tired forge]

Your go-tos are what?

[graceful condor]

Anyone else having these issues if you wanna use a Persona. Site runs really laggy all of a sudden. What is going on?

[raw oasis]

[Verse] [Chorus] [Bridge] [Crescendo] [Refrain], in various orders. but wanting to discover more.. [Melodic Rise] not sure is doing much for me in my experiment.. sometimes you see others songs and think OH! I'll try that.. and nada

[tired forge]

Well I usually leave my songs blank and it just puts Chorus where it wants to put the label.

[tired forge]

Not super imaginative I know...

[raw oasis]

Heck yeah.. this Bridge got close to Brandi Carlile i like that..

so it def ignores [Ascension] alone.. but the moment I give it instruction it gets in line a little better.
[Ascension: dynamic build begins — tempo steady but intensity climbs; layers of choir, pads, and cymbal swells grow toward euphoric release]
[Drop: percussion cuts to half-time; deep sub-bass hit, spacious atmosphere, vocal echo of “reflection of You” fading into reverb tail]

[raw oasis]

just a random gen.. but I sometimes have more fun like this than fighting it.
https://suno.com/s/qatPA4HS4hgW8Nwc

https://suno.com/s/6h5Eh9eTfhHUusgq

[echo moat]

hey guys, trying to upload flac audio to work on it, and it's just hanging there, tried 3 times alreayd

no issues with my internet connection

[tired forge]

If I had any idea what that meant I'd be happy to help, but since I don't I cannot.

[tired forge]

This is what I currently have for my current song project.

https://suno.com/s/LmtGTX5A9tUWGVTr

Huh… I thought I removed the word Cover from the title.

[hollow hare]

Hmm, try exporting it as MP3 and see if that works. Issue may be related to unrecognized format or the file being too large. I think it needs to be at least 6 sec as well

[tired forge]

Always nice when someone can help. ☺️

[echo moat]

thank you

[tired forge]

Best of luck with your stuff dude

[raw oasis]

see now.. my version of your song came out TOTALLY different.. makes no sense
https://suno.com/s/pbmyMbbzFRPdRidO

[tired forge]

WTF are you doing to my song?

[raw oasis]

I know they added violins and everything.. stupid

[tired forge]

You did make some changes, but why are you going and adding anything? I'm just curious.

[raw oasis]

trying to hear this Seven string guitar.. but not hearing it

[tired forge]

I'm not done with it yet anyway. That's just how it is currently.

I was thinking of switching from 7 string to Stratocaster. I think it'd be more dynamic and easier to hear.

[raw oasis]

I love adding specific guitars and effects. I did that here.
https://suno.com/song/c6d2f288-f1d1-41d4-ae63-980497efeceb

[echo moat]

some reason in editor, my screen will shoot up towards the top and then i can't see my song anymore

[raw oasis]

got the full Jerry Canrell vibe going

[tired forge]

There's a few I'd try, but I don't know their damn names, so I was going to try Stratocaster since I CAN remember that one. Sleep apnea melts your memory and my memory got melted away because of that.

[raw oasis]

Gibson, PRS, Telecaster, but Jerry Cantrell plays G&L guitars

I think Suno does Grunge so damn good

[tired forge]

Well those are guitar makers not types of guitars and I was thinking of types

[raw oasis]

ahh.. yeah Flying V, Telecaster, Stratocaster, Les Paul is kina a style? SG?

Put a Phase 90 on this one the other day: https://suno.com/s/HRLksaQQNuWgPbmA

[tired forge]

I do think I will change the title to Drowning like you did. That's nice. I'm going to listen to the new one once Suno finishes it

[echo moat]

for suno studio, if i just want to edit a section of my song, what type do i choose? song? custom?

if i choose an instrument it always says no context and doens't work

[raw oasis]

bruh.. this guitarist starts going off here: https://suno.com/s/qmUOAKYMlgu5Xoh6?time=85

[raw oasis]

Was thinking you might need stems for that. do you have it stemmed out?

[tired forge]

I can't believe I forgot to put the persona on the new Stratocaster version…

I still need to add more, but I think a Stratocaster is better than the 7 String…

The persona doesn't sound right with a Stratocaster…

[steep solar]

is there a way to prompt your song in such a way that it actually follows this, eg - intro(0:00-0:45) - build up(0:45-1:30) - main section(1:30) etc and so on for your whole track? also is there some sort of best practice prompting docs for this app

[echo moat]

god i wish suno studio wouldn't crash everytime i use it

[raw oasis]

No docs, but did you see the #📖┃knowledge-base and #1252267444773326848 ?

[hard beacon]

as far as i know there is no specific way to do that..

[steep solar]

ahh ok thanks to u both

[raw oasis]

My plan is to use Scaler 3 to rough draft my songs and then feed like 30+ bars of rough draft song structure to Suno, that way I can possible control the musical flow more.

right now just using Scaler 3 to feed Suno the chords I want - like this one I did in C Harmonic Major, https://suno.com/s/mjI4xDmqXP4Yl22I
baby steps for now, but longer musical seeds later.

[raw oasis]

I will bring this extended version in as a seed.

https://suno.com/s/px5zvCwV3kaFdWz5

and then cover it.

So far a pretty good process.

[scenic bane]

True tho there is a government thing that checks for you

[bitter mulch]

I've uploaded thousands of audio recordings that have all previously determined what the style prompt was when I uploaded a voice memo to Suno. It still generates the perceived lyrics, but now it doesn't for the style of what was perceived from the voice memo.

Additionally, the "Personas" and the "Adjust Speed" are both greyed out. There doesn't seem to be much information online about this. Is there a setting that I'm missing to turn off/back on? Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!

[tired forge]

A Telecaster guitar sounds interesting

[quick sonnet]

But wee are not tallking about the world, in some coutries, some lyrics would be for example forbiden.

[quick sonnet]

Why you using external camera to make a photo of the screen? Have noticed some other people, do the same.

[hard beacon]

coz it's faster to take a picture with the smartphone (and the discord app) instead of making a screenshot and send it via the desktop app...that could be the reason 😉

[royal plover]

I'm trying to create a 30-40 min instrumental track. Does anyone have any ideas what to include in a prompt to 1. for Suno to not create the classic "chorus" in the middle 2. to not create "the end" of the song, meaning quiting down the sound towards the last 10-20 seconds 3. To keep the same calm instrumental from first to last second.

I've instructed it with 500-800 characters prompt that the music should be calm, quiet, soothing etc, and some sounds are still quite loud, it produces the classic chorus in the middle of the song where the "calm" effect washes down cuz it's chorus, so it's loud and more energetic etc.

My goal is to put them together after creating a few song in similar style

[quiet solar]

I've never heard of a government service willing to pre-check and approve parodies on behalf of the copyright holder to help out the writer. Where's that?

Normally it's the reverse - courts and the law presume you're in breach of copyright unless you have explicit permission from the rights holder, or can prove during a trial that your work is fair use.

[quiet solar]

Given that Suno is available worldwide, it's impossible in practice to ignore 'the world'. Whatever they code is likely to be suitable for the big copyright systems and play it safe elsewhere. I imagine it operates very similarly to tools like YouTube's ContentID - looking up against a library of copyrighted work and blocking anything found on it.

I just can't imagine the team wanting to dedicate additional time to coding exceptions based on national copyright exemptions, especially if it's not always clear where those would or wouldn't apply, and where Suno could potentially be sued by the copyright holders for facilitating copyright infringement if they get it wrong.

[scenic bane]

I mean it tells you what things are copyrighted where,

[quiet solar]

Ah, gotcha.

[scenic bane]

I have someone I know who uses it

[frozen dagger]

don't see your prompt, so can't really suggest anything based on what you have and what it's creating. based on what it sounds like you're describing tho, you should already know that 30-40 mins is gonna be extend extend extend.
So, that said. Something like:

Continuous ambient composition, fully through-composed from first second to last. A steady, gentle dynamic level throughout, with a consistent calm atmosphere. Soft evolving textures, warm pads, subtle harmonic movement, airy tonal swells, delicate chimes, and light organic ambience. Smooth emotional stillness, meditative space, peaceful breath-like motion, and fluid spacious resonance. Gentle sustained tones, soft drifting motifs, and quiet atmospheric depth. A seamless, uninterrupted flow with a steady mood and consistent sonic character. Loop-friendly ending that naturally connects to the beginning, sustaining serenity and stillness.

This example created a 1:49 and 3:02 length gen. Seemed pretty subtle throughout. If you're prompt says something like "no chorus", or anything with negative prompting telling it not to do something may be having the opposite effect. so use positive prompting whenever possible to tell it what you want, avoid telling what you don't want.
Terms like Adagio, Andante, or whichever tempo and cadence you're aiming for may help.

i should also say avoid using genres in your prompting.

[royal plover]

my prompt is this: continuous instrumental fantasy background music track designed for calmness, focus, and meditation. The atmosphere should feel peaceful, magical, and immersive — like wandering through serene fantasy realms. Use soft orchestral elements (harp, flute, strings) blended with airy pads, light chimes, and gentle ambient textures. Keep the tempo slow and flowing, with smooth transitions and no sudden changes. The tone should promote relaxation, concentration, and emotional warmth, while retaining a subtle sense of wonder and mystery. No vocals or lyrics — purely instrumental and soothing.

As for extend - doesn't work for me. Half of the time it generates 10 second tracks, another have creates a 2 minute song, so I think uploading audio of first song and setting audio reference to 100% or smth along this way will work better (although if you have some hacks for extend function to actually create 5-8 mintues extends then I'm all ears 😄 ) , thanks for the advice on the negative prompting, because heck I would be doing that for weeks xd doesnt' suno have some kind of "negative prompt" field?

[royal plover]

yeah I've noticed Suno doesn't work well with genres unfortunately, which is very weird for music AI. One time I told it to play rock n roll and it added a lot of typical pop synthethic beats lol

[frozen dagger]

ok so id remove the "no" stuff and see if that helps. and then for the extend dont extend from the very end pull it back some and add things like Through composed compositon, epic, may help lengthen the time without adding any other influence.

[scenic bane]

Did you put it in the lyrics like [rock and Roll] or in styles? You can also put pop synthetic beats in the don’t use prompt section

[frozen dagger]

genres work great but too good. not for an instrumental. im pretty sure you can use persona for instruments as well?

[royal plover]

what is the typical mark for the extend to produce possibly long extend? beggining/half? 😄 I'll try through composed composition, "epic" I'll skip cuz it needs to be calm

[royal plover]

styles, hmm never heard of that section is it only available for pro users?

[scenic bane]

No. The styles is for everyone

It’s under custom

[frozen dagger]

there 2 types of creation. simple and custom. in custom creation the Styles box is yur main prompting raea.

[royal plover]

I meant the "Don't use prompt section" 😛

[scenic bane]

Ohhhh that’s in advanced

So yes it’s pro

[frozen dagger]

i was suggessting, for example, where your prompt says "and no sudden changes" i would remove that ppart because Suno could just be reading "Sudden Changes".

If you want to try try exclude, under teh adfvanced options tab there is an excluide styles. i do not know if this is available on free-users or not.

[tired forge]

I'm trying something super weird with guitars

IDK if it'll work though.

[royal plover]

yeah yeah I got that part, it's a very useful tip, because I would most likely do it for a long time (adding "no") xD It's not available for free users, I can only change voice

[frozen dagger]

uh i dont think i did... swear but ok

sigh i probably typod . thats sad all that text gone.

[tranquil spoke]

Hi everyone, I would like to ask something.

Is possible to re-generate a song again, exactly the same, if I just want to modify a small part of the lyric....?

[scenic bane]

I think so on web

Or just choose cover

[quiet solar]

Exactly the same can be quite tricky.

You can try using the Replace Lyrics function in Editor/Studio and see where that takes you. If it doesn't work as hoped, then doing a Cover with tweaked lyrics, high audio influence, mid style influence and low weirdness - possibly with the original song also uploaded as a persona - is your next best bet for trying to keep the instrumentals and vocals as unchanged as possible in the Cover.

[scenic bane]

I wanna make one of my songs have the voice of the little girl but I dont know what age I should put in the prompt

[tranquil spoke]

🤔 interesting, I´ll try, thanks a lot

[mint granite]

where can I ask for feedback on a track? it is somewhat related to prompts, but I feel it will be somewhat presumptuous to post here

[unborn star]

I don't think he will realize the age, you can just try child voice

or some similar things

[scenic bane]

That’s true, just find that most child voices seem too young to me (like 1 year old)

[unborn star]

you can try something like older child or something like this

[scenic bane]

True!

Someone please help me find good terms for this Indigenous Anime Intro song, soft drums, female child around 3-4 years old https://suno.com/s/gcZfJV9Zf2zlrqP7

[unborn star]

Like I said, they will not realize the age

[sour stream]

anyone else notice a huge downgrade in voice quality today? both v5 and 4.5+ over 30 songs have had the worst vocals and my usual prompting isnt helping 😭

[unborn star]

not really did you try another workspace (complete new one)?

[sour stream]

"clean, crisp high quality vocals. audiophile -mastering" exclude: hiss, distortion... my usual go-to for great sounding arent working :/

[sour stream]

ill try that, thanks

[unborn star]

I would give it a try

I heard that if you create a song in workspace with different songs, it might get a bit messy

[sour stream]

wow, 22k+ songs in my one workspace 😮

[unborn star]

especially if you try something new

might the something, but not sure, just try, if it's not working let me know

[sour stream]

trying now, brb

still having moments where my singers sound like theyre having a stroke 😭 lol

[unborn star]

Hmm the reason might be, that the demand is really high right now

Maybe you should wait creating the final product

[sour stream]

ill try that... wish "max mode" would be a thing already

[austere scarab]

Hello I found the bark model on GitHub, but it’s read me points me here if I’m looking for the music model, is there a way to obtain the music model for local run?

[scenic bane]

That is true

[scenic bane]

But still like words synonymous with kid so it’s less like this https://suno.com/s/CQiCCw3yitwX03M5

Also What do I do to make it say bow as 🙇‍♀️ and not 🎀

[unborn star]

you want a boy singing it?

[unborn star]

Sry I can't help you

[scenic bane]

Cause little daisies 🎀 isnt as good as little daisies 🙇‍♀️

[unborn star]

You should give in instruction in the style box

[austere scarab]

Alright, didn’t know if it had an Apache 2.0 licensing, thanks anyway.

[unborn star]

saying a small little boy singing with a voice type

[hollow hare]

Bark is a Text-to-Speech project that Suno archived. It is not a music model nor has Suno ever released any of their models publicly.

If you are interested in AI music generations, I have compiled a list of FOSS projects at #💬┃general-chat message

As far as I am aware, none of these have any ComfyUI modules but you should be able to make one yourself (though likely easier to just make your own python script to interact with the models)

[scenic bane]

I need a little GIRL

[unborn star]

change it to girl

[scenic bane]

And I did that but it barely does little kid

[unborn star]

ye

for a reason

[scenic bane]

And if it does it’s not the right age

[unborn star]

I don't think they have a lot of songs made by child (trained)

[scenic bane]

It does lots of kid ones for my Hebrew abc learning songs lol

That’s the weird thing

[rancid nimbus]

something is wrong with generations right now

everything I make is skipping and jumping around, even if I download it

[hollow hare]

Are you using the sliders? Stay in the 20-80% ish range. Being outside that tends to be more...chaotic

[quiet solar]

Try using "Children's Music" as genre in the style prompt and maybe emphasise it with something like "the vocals should be youthful, sung by a female child vocalist".

[scenic bane]

Ok!

[rocky garnet]

I have noticed that when you make a song with a persona, that new song influences the persona's style for future songs

My question is, do only published songs affect the persona? I hope that's how it works

[scenic bane]

I would assume it’s only if you edited the persona to be based on that song

[fallen fossil]

If I wanted to cover a particular song, how would I go about emulating the original song's structure? Typing "stick close to the original's timing" doesn't quite do the trick

[sour stream]

Same here! V5 is terrible today

[rancid nimbus]

default 26% or whatever they put it on. Its not that it sounds like an old cd player skipping

[hollow hare]

Default is 50% (25% for audio if doing a cover).
Hm, unfortunately I cannot help you without further details. Can you DM me the link to your creation so i can try a few things on my side?

Just reply (with ping) to me once you sent the DM. I have filter enabled so I do not get alerts

[sour stream]

I have mine set at weird 15% and style 85%

[mint granite]

I seem to have a problem in studio. I try to download the multitrack, and it says "starting download", and that's it..

[glad ibex]

how do i make suno say an I (eye) sound? the word is SHTEIG it rhymes with TIGer

[visual plank]

have you tried "SHTA-IG" or something like that?

[glad ibex]

this diacritic idea was the best, i tried just about every spelling...now it's working (i think)

[autumn echo]

Guys I've upload a speaking audio then try to extend it with a song. The songs doesn't have the audio.Where did I go wrong?

[sour stream]

my suno is only creating one song instead of 2? premier user here....

[cold zenith]

There's something I don't understand about the studio, when we make changes via stems. Can we save all the music directly to the library? Do we have to export it to our PC first?

got it

it's okay export put it in the library

STUDIO is a very powerful features

[scenic bane]

Try reloading it

[scenic bane]

You have to make the song with the audio when you upload it

[dire raptor]

I am struggling to upgrade to studio, it keeps saying payment failed, error. Anybody struggling?

[raw oasis]

Nice! lemme know what you get.

[tired forge]

Really interesting vocals…

I really need to get some sleep too. LOL

[raw oasis]

Yeah I got some CRZY vocals yesterday before I quit! will persona them later.

[fathom crypt]

Terrible issue 😕

[tired forge]

Well I used a persona for it as is, but it still came out very interesting.

[raw oasis]

Sounds like Lindsey Buckingham when he is going off.. if you know who he is

I have cloned Lindsey Buckingham meets Brandon Flowers 😆

[echo moat]

can someone tell me why in suno editor my uploaded song, it's not stretching the song out, and it's like jumping to differnt parts of the song

[brisk nova]

Pleased with results fro these prompts: Liturgical
Biblical lament
Contralto vocal
Spiritual
Got a choral song. Lyrics are all AI generated and unedited so not great. https://suno.com/s/xWqFjDsyASKGRWOe

[raw oasis]

would just recommend using [] brackets, as () can be interpreted as lyrics.

[upbeat obsidian]

For me editor works really bad, it generates two clips, but when i press on it to listen, then whole page blinks and both of the clips dissapears😆
Your problem must be when you mark the word it marks the word you picked and whole thing in [brackets], its happening often to me ehen i want to mark first line. 😁

[short moat]

Does anyone know how to get suno to make instrumentals without a main melody? I want to be able to sing the main melody. The genre should be like indie or alt rock. I only have the free version btw.

[quiet solar]

In the lyrics box, you should have the option to actively remove lyrics and make the song instrumental, even on the free version I believe.

If you want the instrumentals to avoid doing a main melody, or having guitar and drum riffs all throughout what might otherwise be an unstated set of instrumentals while the singer performs, that might be a bit trickier - it's not something I've specifically tried, but you may have to be quite strict on your prompting of what you want the instruments to do in the style prompt.

[echo moat]

hey guys, i imported a synth sample from another song i want to use in this song, but it's super slow and stretched, how do i line it up properly?

[quiet solar]

First and most obvious question - I presume you're using Studio?

[echo moat]

yes

[quiet solar]

You should have the synth as a separate selection or stem - if you select it, one of the options you have is to adust the tempo. You should be able to check using the other stems/selections what tempo the rest of the song is using, so set it to that in the first instance.

Then in terms of lining it up properly, that's more of a manual exercise. Zoom in as much as you need to align the the segment to the place where it should be coming in. There's a whole separate dark art to learning how to do this by eye and ear, so I won't go into unnecessary detail, but shout if you're really struggling.

[echo moat]

where do i see what the bpm of my song is

[polar spade]

Edit UI will show bpm. Suno Studio as well.

[echo moat]

ah i see it, my track is 120 and this sample was recorded at 138 bpm

[storm warren]

Does the V5 model sometimes generate major artifacts when extending, like a broken tape or something?

[echo moat]

if i change bpm on bottom, will that speed up all my samples?

it appears to be, cool

[placid spindle]

Hi, I want to extend a track that was only .49 sec LOL I click on extend and I get this. I tried BOTH overwrite and keep current, but nothing happens when I click on the buttons. HELP!???

looks like the imag wont load?

[polar spade]

Im driving at the moment, but , in studio, if you click.... hmmmm right-click (?) To show properties of the track , you can choose to manually set bpm or have it follow the bpm of the rest.

In editUI, you can change bpm , set to manual so ite the same bpm through the track, and save file to lock in new output of different bpm.

[placid spindle]

it says this when I try to extend the track: You already have styles. Do you want to overwrite your current styles?

But it does not matter which one I click on. nothing happens

[short moat]

I can make an instrumental version but it will have a melody throughout that makes it impossible to fit in any vocals. Do you mean i can remove the ai vocals of an existing track? But can i do that in the free version? I cant get the stems, i cant open in editor nor studio.

[polar spade]

I think thats an inside glitch. Being looked at. Nothing to see here. Move along 😁

[echo moat]

is it possible to reproduce a sample but at a different bpm?

[placid spindle]

crap!!!!

SO how do I extend a track?

[polar spade]

Yea. Its ... well... good time to go to lunch?

Seriouslythough, devs are aware of it. Looking into it. Report in bugs channel if you wish, shows its still happening.

[placid spindle]

is there a way to extend?

[polar spade]

You basic only? If pro, can you try inside edit Legacy, use extend there and see if available.

[placid spindle]

PRO

let me try that. I have never been in EDIT

[half dragon]

You can still extend, after clicking that button, check the Create panel, it'd switch to Extend, and just continue normally like you always would.

The screen just doesn't seem to update anything but it did.

[placid spindle]

Yeah I thought that too, but my button stayed on CREATE and did not change to EXTEND

[half dragon]

Button would always say CREATE but on the top - it would add little section says Extend

[placid spindle]

mmmm didn't see that.

[placid spindle]

why does it ask this: You already have styles. Do you want to overwrite your current styles?

[placid spindle]

OH!!!! I did not look there. CRAP!!! THanks let me see if that comes up next time. Right now I am in the EDIT STUDIO - extend works there

[half dragon]

As @polar spade - that might have something to do with the song has Audio reference or +Inpiro as style - and when extending it asks if you want to keep the style or not but it has issue and devs are aware

[placid spindle]

thanks everyone!!!

[echo moat]

can you remake a sample but give it a different bpm without it sounding weird?

[polar spade]

Instrumentals have a wider tolerance of pitch range before sounding weird. Not so wide with vocals. Outside a certain range, it would be considered more "artistic" as in sounding of a horror style on one end or a chipmunk on the other.

If just talking about vocals, you can click adjust speed in the menu, and then click Keep Pitch for the vocals only, while increasing or decreasing instrumental speed.

[quiet solar]

Yeah, that's what I'd have expected. I expect getting around that will be difficult on the free version.

What you describe is the easiest way to do it - let Suno make the whole song, then split the stems to remove the vocals and replace them with your own separately. But that requires a paid subscription to access the option to split stems.

If you absolutely have to do it on the free version, you'll have to use very creative prompting in the style box and expect it to take a lot of different attempts.

[echo moat]

where does the bpm show for each sample? i got samples at 120 and one at 138 and having issues lining it up in my daw

[quiet solar]

You can create a cover and prompt Suno to use a specific key and BPM, but it's not guaranteed that Suno will listen to you. Covers are known for shifting both those factors around slightly, which is incredibly annoying for the type of thing you're trying to do.

[quiet solar]

It should be visible in the Editor or Studio UI when you load the song or select the stem. I don't believe there's any way to see it without loading Editor/Studio.

[echo moat]

yeah i see the track tempo, don't see clip temp anywhere

[quiet solar]

Can't you open the clip separately from wherever it began life?

[echo moat]

what's the best way to take stems from other songs, combine them with a different song, and have suno blend them together instead of trying to line everything up

[quiet solar]

That depends a lot on what you're trying to do, or what problem you're trying to solve. There's no one click fix for the problem you're trying to solve, AFAIK.

Is the DAW you're using able to tell you the BPM of a clip uploaded into it?

[echo moat]

yeah it's ableton, it's weird tho cause it's got warping and follower and leader stuff, seems like no matter how i rearrange it, the clip will not go to 138 bpm

[quiet solar]

Hmm...okay. Presumably you have a copy of the original clip created or uploaded somewhere in Suno? What happens if you open that and use Suno's editor or Studio to change the BPM as if it were a separate track all on it's own?

[echo moat]

i'll probably just pull up some tutorials, i don't want to both you guys with such trivial matters

[quiet solar]

It's not trivial, it's a genuinely frustrating exercise. You also need to pay attention to whether changing the BPM is changing the pitch as well, because otherwise the sped up / slowed down version will be in a different key.

[half dragon]

You can easily bring in stems from different songs and layer them on the timeline together

[polar spade]

So no wonder Ive been digging listening to New York Groove, by Ace Frehley the past two weeks. I even wrote a song inspired by that. It must have been something in the air touched me....as I didnt know he passed away Oct 16th. Dang! RIP, dude. 🤘

[quiet solar]

I imagine so - I can't think of a good reason why Suno would develop different functionality for it exclusively for Studio.

The melody turns up in the vocal split? Ouch, that's bad luck.

Tearing out the vocals has been my go-to method to removing the OOOO AAA MMMs as well

Does the problem still happen if you do a straight vocals vs instrumentals stem split?

[sage grail]

ai

you guys are not real LOL

[hard beacon]

you are right. I am a Bot

beep beep

[sage grail]

50 year old behaviour

[quiet solar]

Weird. It's never had an issue doing it in any genre I've tried - it's always turned up in the vocals, as expected.

[hallow rampart]

I'm getting pisst 1 week pass and i don't received my credit on PRO PLAN PAID FOR 1 YEAR , what a f....ing joke

[sour stream]

I've noticed less OOO ahhh mmma in the intro but way degraded vocals now in v5

And my usual prompting isn't working (crisp, clean high quality vocals, audiophile mastering)

I will say creating a new workspace has helped a little

22k songs in my original 🥺

[echo moat]

i'm trying to do like a chord synthesizer breakdown in my song, and it is just not doing it, and can't seem to make it do it

[hard beacon]

you are talking about the typical Roland J-6 Sound?

if i am a right this was a Chord Synth... 🤔

[echo moat]

yeah exactly

[hard beacon]

hmm.. you can try prompts like "Chord Synth" or "Roland J-6" in the style and also vocal / song structure prompts ... then in [ ... ] of course 🙂

[echo moat]

let me see if i can upload it here

[hard beacon]

first of all.. what kind of style do you want to create?

[lament fern]

Hi, quick question, when you like a song, how do you go about making 3 or 4 more songs in the same style, with the same voice, to make an EP album?

[hard beacon]

well.. if it's the same style the voices are nearly the same... if you have a typical style you can try to use the same prompts over and over again 😉

btw: you can also work with personas.. but i can't tell you more about it.. i don't work with personas 😉

[lament fern]

personas is the right way: https://help.suno.com/en/articles/3484161

[hard beacon]

then test it 😉

[echo moat]

here is what i want the synth to sound like

[hard beacon]

ok... so EDM music with Roland J6 in the break

[echo moat]

just put that style in there and it will do it?

[hard beacon]

Test something like (style prompt): EDM / Bass House track with a powerful groove and punchy bassline. During the breakdown, the rhythm slows down and a warm, analog Roland J6-style synth plays lush, jazzy chords with a dreamy, vintage chorus texture. The atmosphere feels spacious and emotional before the drop hits again with full energy.

[echo moat]

does suno recognize [Breakdown] as a structure?

[hard beacon]

yes

[echo moat]

sweet, should i put that in the brackets with the breakdown, or just put it in the style box?

[hard beacon]

but for EDM a tag like "break" or "bridge" could be better

brackets in the lyrics section.. coz there you have also your song structure

[echo moat]

thanks, i'll give that a try

like this? [Bridge]
[EDM / Bass House track with a powerful groove and punchy bassline. During the breakdown, the rhythm slows down and a warm, analog Roland J6-style synth plays lush, jazzy chords with a dreamy, vintage chorus texture. The atmosphere feels spacious and emotional before the drop hits again with full energy.]

[hard beacon]

well .. my long prompt was an example for the complete Style Prompt

[echo moat]

oh ok gotcha

it def did it that time, also added in some background words lol

[hard beacon]

😄

[echo moat]

that's dope bro, can't wait to raise some vibrationz

[hard beacon]

you are welcome... you can transfer my thx-money via paypal.. Invoice is coming soon

😄

sometimes you also need a lot of luck... then you got an output and then... "WOW.... dope" 😄

and if you like the kind of style... use the same prompt over and over again.. for EDM Styles that will be no problem... i've made a good sounding 3-Track EP within 10 Minutes... of course i did a lot of mastering in the next step but the songs all have the same style and signature sounds 😉

[echo moat]

wonder why it's saying the things in brackets, is there any way to 100% force it not to say it

[raw oasis]

42 seconds of pure D Lydian chord progressions uploaded if anyone wants a seed.
https://suno.com/s/ilYRsujcw0tu8i90

[hard beacon]

@echo moat : can't follow your mind.. who said what? 😄

ahh... you are talking about that the vocalist is singing "Roland J6" or stuff like that? 😄

[echo moat]

1yeah exactly

[hard beacon]

you have to use square brackets

[ ... ]

[echo moat]

sorry i'm scatterbrained myself, working atm, i did use square brackets lol

[hard beacon]

problem solved

[echo moat]

either way i can patch over it, atleast i konw how to make these breakdowns

to that, i owe you a drink

[polar spade]

Any other bracketed prompts beside it, or prompts with commas within brackets? Sometimes more than three side-by-side, Suno will sing one of them.

[echo moat]

lmao when i copied your description, it copied over the click to react and emojis lmao

ethereal voice "Click to react" "Add description" lmao

of course the song was 100% perfect so hopefully i can change that without messing up the integrity of the song

if i cut out a section of track in studio and regenerate, does it take into account the rest of the song, or either side of the tracks?

[raw oasis]

pretty close to the chord progression seed right?
https://suno.com/s/PZYC344aOC7cEgIG

[echo moat]

when i try to replace a segment of the song, i keep getting errors and not sure why -

[polar spade]

Could be a busy time of the day, 12 to 3pm EST, and the Server is loaded. Sometimes thats all it is.

[echo moat]

but it should work correct? i'm not doing somethign wrong

i forgot i always have issues running suno in linux, vmachine it works great in windows

[hard beacon]

Hey @echo moat : are on the way to your personal success??? Prompt and editing goes well?

[brisk nova]

Thanks, I'm a noob. Still on my first 100 songs.

[raw oasis]

Welcome to Suno!

[placid spindle]

Hi all!! I am trying something simple. Have a track that is 2:43 long and I want to extend it. I click on remix / edit - extend. Suno is only adding about 3 sec! LOL What am I doing wrong?

just tried again and only got 12 sec

[quiet flume]

Although I've created some personas already in the past (still have pro plan) I can't create any new ones!
I click on the three dots
Create -> Make Persona
Select the song the persona is based on
Enter name, and description - create an avatar
Set public to "no"
And then I click on SAVE and nothing happens!
When I close the window manually, there is no new persona!
Am I doing something wrong ?

[echo moat]

ok i have the perfect background music finally, how do i change the singer in the song?

[hard beacon]

my first idea would be "cover" with specific vocal prompts... like "punk pop vocals" or "emotional trance vocals".. depends on the feeling you want to create

[echo moat]

true but i don't want to change the background, maybe studio, bring everything in but delete the vocal track

[hard beacon]

so you wanna change the complete vocal?

[echo moat]

yeah vocals have been great so far, but the vocals on this track are meh

but the instrumental is everything i've been wanting

[hard beacon]

you wanna send me the song link via DM?? then i can undestand what's your "problem" 🙂

[echo moat]

yeah i can do that

[quiet dune]

Anyway to get better sounding cinematic space ambient and EDM all sounds moody or bad

[echo moat]

yeah everytime i go to edit a section in suno studio, and i put in my songs styles and lyrics in the box, i get errors

[sharp perch]

Hello, Anyone got tips on how to make a radio ad ? Spoken no as a song . @warped dove

[frozen dagger]

i thought all persona's had to be made public?

[frozen dagger]

i thought before if i said no to public it wouldnt let me save. so that had my curiousity. i ran the check, same steps you listed and it saved with public UNchecked. and it was there when i went to my personas. there was a bug where they weren't showing days ago. but it seems fine now.
maybe there is a word in your desriptions or naming that is triggering a copyright flag, or something similar?

[sharp perch]

https://tenor.com/view/keyaan-john-wick-keanu-reeves-gif-2384046765437701795

I got all the support from this chat i was looking for, 😄

[frozen dagger]

its hard to tell without knowing what you have there when you're clicking create/extend button. The
usual recommendations are to make sure you are extending the song from a point that is not withing singing, but rather in music, pull the extend point back a little bit (don't extend from the very end; pull back even 10-20 seconds or 5... just not at 0.), if their isn't anything in the lyrics prompt, it may think you just want to end the track. if it has lyrics in the lyrics box and you pulled your extend point back a little bit... and it's still only doing 3-12 seconds. its mostly likely trying to extend near a point in the song structure where the last info it had about that part of the song was probably [Outro] tag and it is just looking back at that to see what you had before to extend from and saying "ok extend the outro", ended. done. pats itself on the back.

[frozen dagger]

i was gonan try to respond to thiss, but im not sure what it meant. best respsonse i had was "did you try "radio ad", and i only say that because earlier models in i think v4, maybe earlier, I put "Stand-Up Comedy" and that it in the prompt, and to my surprise it did pretty well for an ai generation from words

[sharp perch]

thank you sir appreciate you. I will try some different Styles and see what i get.

[frozen dagger]

its the part where you said spoken, not singing. like i thought a jingle. and "jingle" will definiletly work for that, done that before.

[tired forge]

The way my attempt to be creative with guitars made the vocals sound...

https://suno.com/s/d4EFqp6YMKRKBxf3

[shy jewel]

Guys, what's the point of publish? Is there something to it like timestamp etc? What I've been doing is I just download the music without clicking the publish.

[hollow hare]

It just means making your song available on Suno's website for anyone to access publicly (e.g. on trending or through searching the website).

Otherwise, if not published, people can only access your song on Suno by having the associated song ID (e.g. you sharing the link)

For contests, you are usually required to publish to have your song entered

[shy jewel]

Ok. Got it. Thanks! In my case, I don't need to publish. Thanks for the information.

[vivid wasp]

With the v5 beta can we use pause (time) metatags yet?

[frozen dagger]

you can use [pause], or similar tags in the lyrics to create a pause, or [moment of silence], but you can't (as far as i know) do it like [pause X seconds]. You can create the pause (although not always comes through; style prompt slider can help), and then just copy and paste the silence in editor to create desired length.

[hoary grotto]

Anyone else running into this issue

[frozen dagger]

phone app can be wonky. lots of boxes clip. i don't know of a workaround other than trying web browser app on phone =
I noticed "Atlas". I have a song for that too 😉

[hoary grotto]

This is the web browser. On the phone. It’s not possible to make a persona in app

https://tenor.com/view/idk-shrugs-i-dont-know-spongebob-gif-14727747

[frozen dagger]

aw man. try a different browser? sorry.

[hoary grotto]

it used to work but now the browser bar on the bottom doesn't go away. strange

[mossy birch]

hi

[half dragon]

That seems like a bug, have you reported it #📱┃bugs-ios
In the meantime, try another browser on your phone? or a pc .. until next update, hopefully it'd be fixed.

[tired forge]

What'd you think of the vocals?

[potent iron]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0S0ENojgoKdRELZBzoxPo8?si=UdEEkZx5RmCuyQ0fM2IeKw

[gilded meadow]

Hi everyone, I’d like to ask if anyone has experienced this issue before.
I already purchased the Suno PRO plan on November 10, and at first it worked — my credits increased and I was able to use them.
But the next day (November 11), my account suddenly lost PRO status, even though I still have over 2000 credits remaining.

I’ve tried contacting Suno through social media and email but haven’t received any response yet.
Has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it?

Thanks in advance for your help! 🙏

[fathom crypt]

Post your issue in #archived-ticket-help

[viral kettle]

Hello everyone I really hope someone can help me I'm Try To do 2 things # 1 I'm trying to learn how to do a track about 4 Min 30sec Tops With a Spoken Word Intro,Verse 1 Chorus, Instrumental Break for 1min 10sec Then Bridge Outro/ending done

[quiet solar]

There isn't any way to specify the length of song Suno generates, or to force the length of any particular section - it'll go as long as is needed to cover what you ask and find it's way to an ending. If you're looking for 4m30, you'll have to feed it an appropriate amount of content in the lyrics box - unless you're planning on having a very long verse or chorus, or a very slow paced song, I'm not sure you'll have enough as it stands.

You can steer Suno as to the structure in the lyrics prompt by using something like the following. The descriptions are examples - use what actually makes sense for your song. I've not tested 'instrumental interlude' much before, but it should hopefully be more likely to prompt for a longer section than the more typical 'instrumental break'.

[Intro - spoken softly]
Put your words for the intro here

[Verse 1]
Verse 1 lyrics here

[Chorus]
Chorus lyrics here

[Instrumental interlude]

[Bridge]
Bridge lyrics here

[Chorus]
Repeat chorus lyrics

[Outro]
Whatever you were planning to do with this - either lyrics here and/or style directions in the [] box.

[End] or [Dramatic Finish] or [Fade Out] or whatever fits best.

You can put whatever you like into [] style prompts in the lyrics box and Suno may take it into account when making the song. So the main other bit of advice I'd give is to remember that creating something is going to feel like more of a collaborative process than instructing Suno from on high to follow all of your commands exactly. You may want to be prepared to compromise, or anticipate you'll have to spend time regenerating to try to get what you want, or various other techniques to build a song exactly as you intend across multiple extensions - which is all a bit much to go into here as well.

Good luck.

[viral kettle]

@quiet solar thank you so much I'll try it now I'm new to this but I really want to learn

[finite folio]

Morning

[raw oasis]

I like that rasp, very good! Great song!! ❤️‍🔥

[finite folio]

Have somebody tried make beatbox music with Suno AI?

[celest solstice]

How do I get suno 4.5 to up the production or mastering the song like a professional Master person

[hasty sigil]

Hello, i'm using a Premiere subscription. I'm still exploring so it's possibile that i'm missing something obvious. I finally found the voice i want to achieve for my songs and created a Persona. Now i'm facing some problem: how do i change the vocals of a previous song using the vocal timber of this Persona? And: if i sing and record a vocal line, how do i use Persona to change vocal timber? It doesn't seem spoosibile to use a recording and a Persona (or inspo) at the same time, am i correct? My goal is to achieve consistence between various song.

[tired forge]

Thanks. I was really happy with the raspy nature of it also. That persona doesn't sound like that in other variations of the song, but trying to do two different types of guitars in the same song made that happen. It didn't do it in both versions it generated, but I was really happy with that. I wish I could say that the song wasn't based on personal feelings, but…

[quiet flume]

Never heard of that before !

[quiet flume]

But why is there a switch if you are forced to publish Personas ?
And what is the politics behind that? Why do I need to publish them ?
Thanks a lot for bringing this up and even testing this !
Oh and has it always been like that ? Or did this come up with v5, because I created my first personas with v4.5 ... ?!

[quiet flume]

I only had my credits jumping up and down one month - but after a few days everything was fine again ...
Maybe just wait a few days if you are still able to work with the system ...

[gusty pendant]

Hello, any prompt to not get vocal intro on every song or is it just "V5 perk" ?

[raw oasis]

not sure if it requires Pro sub, but I just give the music more to do if that makes sense? Covering a seeded .wav arrangement that sets up my chords, also added a drum roll Persona. plays around musically and goes into lyrics with no vocal intros.

G minor mixdown arrangment today if interested for seeding.
https://suno.com/s/ahBCsCkBNNsva4PB

[crimson shadow]

How do I delete a persona

[gusty pendant]

interesting, I will try that instead of negative prompts that I use (and it does not work at all btw), thank you

[forest hemlock]

Do you use negatives/how do you use negatives?

[raw oasis]

and this is all i did to set up a drum roll persona.. song wont use it all.. but result was my main song def learned how to do some snare drum rolls. Best of luck!
https://suno.com/s/jdvePvwWGPfTz2y7

So nice we can cover a seed and use a persona at the same time. opening up some possibilities for sure!

also the negative prompts could only help. -"humming intro, hum, vocalise, humming"

[quiet solar]

It's quite tricky to use negatives - generally, you don't want to include them in the main style prompt as Suno has a tendency to read "no (x)" as "I want (x)". There's an exclude box in the advanced options, but it's unreliable and best thought of as a last resort.

It can be better to create a specific intro yourself, which you can steer towards being instrumental or give the singer something else to do, which tends to help avoid them going oooh-uohhhou-oooo into the mic.

And yes, this is an odd quirk of v5. If it's a nightmare, you can always try making a song in v4.5.

[forest hemlock]

The exclude box mainly works at 100% or 0% style

In v5 that is

[lavish latch]

oh lord is too hard to get a correct prompt for v5, different than 4.5+

[placid spindle]

HI you here today? Sorry, I left discord before you responded.

I have no lyrics. Its just an instrumental. I tried in EDIT (no studio). I see the little arrow at the end - I click on it as the instructions say to do, and nothing happens.

When I try EXTEND in the main Create UI, it only adds a few seconds.

What is happening?

[stable ridge]

hi yall, i want a beat and a flow as similar as possible to "welcome to mylan" of rondodasosa, any idea on what style description i should use?

[green pike]

hii @polar spade how are you? any clue on this?

[polar spade]

@quiet solar has made a good suggestion. Id just add that for me for getting anything exact, I overshoot it on the time, edit it back by cutting and splicing, then remaster or if lucky , cover it.

Different ways to do things.

[polar spade]

Tell them to save the file first to get a finished edited song? 🤷

[green pike]

I mean, told him like... "are you sure you aren't actually listening the old song"?

lul

he says not

[polar spade]

Yep. Probably.

[polar spade]

OK. Then, I have no answer. Im stupid sometimes. 🤣

[green pike]

derivated him here and on #📱┃bugs-android / #📱┃bugs-ios and if he doesn't get any help then I told him to seek help here with you or in #archived-ticket-help lol

[green pike]

you are NOT stupid you are amazing lol

[polar spade]

My M.O. is that i volunteer an answer to random posts that I think it have an answer. I dont really respond to direct questions. Lol.

So . . . Dont spread my name around. Haha. I may not respond to them. 😊

[polar spade]

Im intelligently stupid. I know when I dont know the answer. 😉

[green pike]

oooOooO okay

[green pike]

inteligently stupid it's actually a big brain smart move

[polar spade]

In all seriousness, many dont know, Legacy will auto save every edit. NEW EDIT UI , we have to save each edit. So it depends on what they are using as well.

[quiet solar]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's very likely he's using Editor (not Legacy Editor) and not saving as a new song after Suno autosaves his changes.

If you do that, for bizarre reasons that have never been explained, Suno remembers the edits you've made but a) doesn't apply them to the original song in the library and b) doesn't create a new song in the library with the edits in. So if you play the 'edited' song in the Library, it'll just play the original without your edits. But click Edit and it'll open up with all your changes apparently still in place.

I don't know who the original question asker is, but feel free to ask them to triple check they've clicked the "Save as New Song" button in the Editor before navigating out of it.

[green pike]

@mild dome check this

[mild dome]

@green pike yes, yes... I'm reading. Thanks allot. That's some help I will try it out. Thanks for your time 😄👍

[frozen dagger]

I can't know what is happening. My guesss was in my last response. I think you are likely extending a song from the end of a track.
You can extend from any point in the timeline of a track. When you choose a point to extend the ai is looking at the music around that point and deciding how to create this extension. If you are extending from the end of a track then the only info it has is the music that came before it. IF your lyrics prompting at the end of the track has a tag like [Outro], [End], [Finale], or anything that would suggest that it was the end of the song, it is still seeing that prompting from the previous track and thinking it needs to end the song.
So my suggestion (without knowing what you're doing exactly) would be to try to extend the track from a timestamp that is within music and not speaking, or singing, and not at the very last second of a track if you are extending form the ending of a track.
You want to try to plan out your extends. Can't define length of time musical sections can be, but we can guide and edit, and PLAN. It can only come with practice from working with Suno, but you will start to know, ok this song is going to be kinda long and I may need to break it down into sections as I create it. Eitehr because of it's length alone, or because I want multiple genres or voices singing and the easiest way may be to just extend

I hit enter to soon, but i was almost there anyway. I was only going to end with the planning, when you know you're extending make life easier on yourself and plan the extends to be inside the music by ending your lyric prompting boxes with some kind of tag to create music liek [breakdown] or [instrumental] [drum solo] anything that fits that will create the music and a gap of no lyrics to insert your extend.

[quiet dune]

@forest hemlock no I just tell it what I'm looking for if I do get something good it's only 2 minutes long

[forest hemlock]

Are you using 4.5 or 5.0?

[quiet dune]

@forest hemlock 5.0

[frozen dagger]

I am an absent minded fool. I been using Suno for over a year, but I just don't always pay full attention. I may have misread/missunderstood the whole time. I don't know. That was just the impression I was under. When I read your post, for me, I was like "wait, they HAVE to be public, right??", So I wanted to test myself to answer my own question that formed looking at yours.
I just went through your steps and give you info on what it did for me, and add that I knew it was bugging a while ago.
They are clearly making changes to the interface and stuff behind the scenes on the daily. So I dunno. I was likely mistaken about them needing to be public. But that was just what I thought.
Never made sense to me either why it would be that way. But some of the stuff about Publishing songs and Remixing them don't make sense to me either, so I never thought much into it.

[forest hemlock]

Cinematic space ambient and EDM with a luminous, expansive, weightless feel at 128 BPM in D minor. Sub-bass, analog polysynth pads, wavetable lead, granular noise, string ensemble, brass ensemble, kick with sidechain, toms, arpeggiator, choir, vocoder, and cinematic impacts create a shimmering, panoramic foundation. Whispered vocoder phrases glide with ethereal, breathy, celestial color while the arpeggiator traces radiant, crystalline constellations. The mix is pristine, deep, immersive, glossy, punchy, spacious, balanced, and airy with delicate reverbs and clean transients. Suitable for [sci-fi game trailer].

Try this in the regular prompt

Then this in the exclude prompt:
Cinematic space ambient and EDM with a dim, constricted, heavy feel at 128 BPM in D minor. Sub-bass, analog polysynth pads, wavetable lead, granular noise, string ensemble, brass ensemble, kick with sidechain, toms, arpeggiator, choir, vocoder, and cinematic impacts create a muddy, narrow foundation. Whispered vocoder phrases drag with harsh, nasal, cold color while the arpeggiator scribbles dull, grainy patterns. The mix is smeared, shallow, lifeless, brittle, weak, cramped, uneven, and noisy with abrasive tails and clipped transients. Suitable for [sci-fi game trailer].

Set weirdness to 15%-30% and style to 100% and tell me if it's better

[meager lion]

hi guys for better quality is it better to download in wav or mp3? because i getting washed out songs like it needs more mastering 🙁

[wispy yarrow]

Hi guys, how to add dog barking should to Suno?
Example [WOLF HOWL]
Example from didn't help https://sunoaiwiki.com/tips/2024-05-22-how-to-prompt-suno-ai-to-use-animal-sounds-and-noises/

[forest hemlock]

I usually download in mp3 because wav sometimes gives weird results and lowered volumes

[meager lion]

oh that explains a lot

i downloaded in wav and quality went from 8 to 4 :/

[forest hemlock]

Yeah, mp3 should sound exactly like what you listen to when you create it

When you download it

[frozen dagger]

you can try tags, but they are not reliable or consistent.
best way is to just create or find a sample and add it to the track with an editor.

[quiet solar]

Suno isn't specifically trained on sound effects. If you try enough times you might be able to get one from it's musical library, but if the number of songs featuring dog barks and wolf howls is small (which it likely is), it's probably going to be blind luck rather than clever prompting.

[frozen dagger]

is there a shortcut key for Suno Studio zoom in/out? or better a way to set it to my mouse wheel?

[tacit crow]

Hello not sure where to ask... is there a trick to getting cleaner midi files? Example have a sythn track I like, but exporting the midi I might get 3 differt layers. Way to clean that up in Suno, or have to do in DAW?

[finite tree]

Anyone having issues with not being able to create on suno? press the button and nothing happens

[median garden]

Why is download not visible. Yes, I am on the premier plan.

[frozen dagger]

if it was just generated may need to load? try to refresh browser window?

[polar spade]

Im glad it does, New Edit remembering last settings that is, but I think in the past it would update if Legacy made a change and we came back to New Edit. But to save redundancy, I get it, thats changed. Let New Edit remember what it did and go to Library and import if we want New Edit UI to work with any changes done in Legacy.

🤔 I think that assumption is correct.

[polar spade]

Sorry to ask a common question but good to ask: Is the Create button bright orange 🍊 before clicking.

[viral kettle]

Well it didn't work do you think it would be easier to do it at the beginning

[placid spindle]

Thanks for getting back to me. I have no voices or singing in the song - just instruments. The song came out really nice, but for some reason SUNO only made it about 2.30min long. I just wanted to add maybe another minute? Should I use EDITOR or Create - Extend? EDITOR is not working.

[viral kettle]

Do you think it would be easier to do a 1 minute Instrumental in the beginning of the song

[raw oasis]

Extend is probably best, try for enough instruction that it will really add some more length.
I am literally working on the same thing right now for some guitar instrumentals. 😆

Gotta tell ya Suno can really turn out some gems in this genre

Its frustrating. I am struggling to extend in Studio version.

[frozen dagger]

in the case of non-lyrics could try some type of placeholder meta tags in the lyrics box like repeating [Instrumental] over and over to let it know, or alternate with variations describing what the music sounds like and continute to use song structure tags like [bridge][interlude][solo], or more descriptive tags [slow piano arpeggios descending a C Major scale] (or whatever), just some form of description.
...If you have that and its STILL acting like a fool with short extends than I would do a workaround. If you have the option, in editor, duplicate (or copy paste) the sections of music and make the song artificially longer yourself.
Since there are no lyric structure and you just want more music, the workaround for wanting longer times when it gives you short extends, is to create placeholders of the music you already have by duplicating it. When you have the length around the time you are aiming for, highlight the areas you created and then "Recreate" those sections. Make sure the "Replace from" dropdown box is choosing the box that suits your needs. Smart should be fine in most cases. Experimentation and iteration probably required as usual. But this can be a way to create music that is a certain length. By "recreating" sections of music that are already in approximate length, and sound similar, to what you are looking for.

[frozen dagger]

TL;DR: If you wawnt to create an extension of just music a certain length- another option is to copy and paste a section of music how long you want to make, and then just recreate it to keep the approximate time length.

[queen linden]

the last two covers of a song were completely buggy, I hit the repot/ notification thing. Is It me or is it Suno? not going to throw away credits. anyone know if theres a problem today?

[raw oasis]

When that happens to me I was just taking it as the nature of AI and moving to trash. it happens on occasion if that helps. Did not think about reporting them to Suno but that is a good idea.

Looks like one good thing about Studio is it strips the Styles. so you don't have to share styles with the Suno world if you don't want to.

[brittle onyx]

Hey I'm having an issue with Suno, I'm trying to do an extend of my track for two lines... and... tada!
Impossible someone copyrighted a sentence right? 😮‍💨

[queen linden]

ohhh the issue is even into editing... I figured I would go that route ..... the words are simply gibberish.....

[raw oasis]

sometimes i open chrome dev tools F12, and then Empty Cache Hard Reload but I know that depends on a users setup.

[frozen dagger]

Not even sentences. Just single words. i.e. "Swift"

[brittle onyx]

Pretty funny to see people use real copyrighted lyrics and have nothing but the bot triggers for two lines with actual words people use 😌

[frozen dagger]

like not taxing the rich

[heavy marsh]

Is there a reliable way to create songs with the same vocal? Especially for already existing songs? I tried with stemed vocals via persona + cover, but the outcomes are weird and landed in the trash. I would appreciate for sharing experiences

[frozen dagger]

im theorizing, but i would think extending the persona with the new lyrics, cut the new part and paste over music, would be best results.

[opaque canopy]

[evil laugh] work most of the time but [gun shot FX] never kick in any tips for sound effect

[frozen dagger]

i've done both, same experience as you. (was doing gunshot earlier today.) better to find a sample. record gunshots with OBS from your favorite games and add a sample. =\

[opaque canopy]

how does hip hop and rap doing without gunshot effect lol we need Fart FX too we are mature enough to use it wisely

[frozen dagger]

studio has a dedicated FX feature, although not seemingly (fully) functional, but seemss safe to speculate that it is something working on for the future stuff to make it easier to insert sound FX and adlib stuff.

[desert vector]

lets say i have 5 acapellas of myself, i give them to suno (or what other app) and it will install my vocals then i can write lyrics and it will use my vocals to do it???? how????

[exotic tree]

Please help

5 days

[echo moat]

Does suno use true midi? or is it using Audio to Midi which i heard is not quite as accurate?

and how accurate is the audio to midi extraction?

[exotic tree]

and bro I don't know anything just to fix this and I mean the audio when you add a melody or song but it doesn't work at all I don't know why v5 voice and it throws that text out of the picture

[forest hemlock]

Does it work on browser?

@exotic tree I saw the message, but do you mean you don't have an active subscription, but it thinks you do (without having one so it doesn't let you generate)? And you can't activate one?

[exotic tree]

I subscribed 2 or 3 times and each time I canceled and I subscribed again and since then I get this message that doesn't let me generate a song with v5 voice

[forest hemlock]

I think it'd probably be best to contact suno directly at [e-mail]

[exotic tree]

They haven't answered me for 3 days.

[forest hemlock]

Since it creates a midi from the song and it takes some time I'd assume it's audio to midi

And since it's an audio model and not symbolic

[polar spade]

Your vocals already have lyrics in them?

When you "install" the vocals, ill assume you then save it as one a cappella file of harmonic vocals , do they have words or you are just going "do da, la la la" to put down a melody?

There's not much success to "clone" an uploaded or recorded voice consistently , but users do make personas to try to be consistent throughout multiple songs.

If you need a close clone, usually requiring minutes of a reading or singing a few minutes to train. Run over to kits.ai or acestudio to see how it works.

[viscid shard]

Ive tried everything in the web

[hollow hare]

Well, you certainly did not try much here.

1. Do not ping Team members. Most of them are not work for support, they are developers.
2. This is a question for #support-guide not this channel. This channel is about help for developing prompts or other such technical abilities
3. Have you seen #1372994765196361774 ? This entry would be of use to you https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1417458714616795210

[viscid shard]

Ill just use free credits with my alt accounts

Thanks for nothing

[desert vector]

thanks for your response, so what im doing is im playing piano, i record some vocals, then i take the vocals into suno and click cover or extend but it doesnt keep my vocals the same as MINE it creates ones similar to it (but way better lol) but im after MY Vocals in suno

so u saying kits.ai or acestudio could do this? if i upload 3 minutes of my vocals or something?

[vivid wasp]

Does anybody think a editor will come out for the app eventually? If it's not a mess it could be handy on the go

[mild dome]

@green pike hey it's me again

@polar spade sorry earlier this morning you suggested I save my customized song first so I can then make edits. Sorry I don't even see where to save it. Like a save button. Thanks for your patience.

[half dragon]

Yeah Suno will not keep your exact voice - services like kits.ai or other would allow you to replace the vocal track with your own voice trained with RVC
Basically you record your vocal sound randomly with best ranges then load them to train then save it as your vocal model, then load a song, it'd replace the entire vocal track with that model.

[half dragon]

If you mean this thread #📚┃suno-school message -
then what he meant was to remember to save on every edit on the new Editor while the Legacy Editor will auto-save.

[mild dome]

@half dragon the only save I see is the black check ✅ mark that's on the top right corner. I always push that.

[half dragon]

While it's definitely convenient on the go - but the screen estate would be a nightmare to edit on tbh

[mild dome]

It pops up when you start to edit

[half dragon]

Then you're good, all set 🙂

[mild dome]

@half dragon but its not taking the edit. I'll play it again and plays the same version

I'm so you send my cell phone. Could that be it maybe only works on laptop or desktop?

[half dragon]

What kind of edit was it? and you play right on the editor? or after you "Save as new song"

[mild dome]

@half dragon I play it after I press the black check mark

I've never seen a "save as new song"

[half dragon]

Are you using Legacy Editor?

[mild dome]

Legacy Editor?? I guess I'm not this is the first time I hear about it

[mild dome]

@half dragon that looks like a computer version. I only have my cell phone

[half dragon]

Ah... iOS? I didn't realize you can already edit on your mobile

I checked my Android app and don't see an option to edit yet.

[mild dome]

@half dragon well at this point I haven't been able to. Do you think it's only possible on a computer

[half dragon]

Not sure but I do recommend using a computer to edit.

[mild dome]

When you hit the three dots ••• it takes you to a edit screen. But it's just not working

[half dragon]

Maybe it's not fully functioning or still in infant state - things might not work 100% as mobile is behind the web app on browser.
Have you tried the browser on your phone instead?

[mild dome]

@half dragon I agree. Hopefully I'll get one for Xmass 😕😕

@half dragon no haven't tried the browser

[half dragon]

Give that a try - see if it's working there for you.

[mild dome]

@half dragon I will. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it

[onyx sparrow]

i struggle litte bit to get a "choir" looks like he dont understand this

a choir beat

[half dragon]

Like one of these? https://suno.com/search?type=public_song&q=choir

[onyx sparrow]

yeah like this but with a slap house beat

and little bit different choir

if i write trap choir i get a choir beat

but if i write slap house with choir he dont check this

trap beat choir

slap house with choir

[raw oasis]

Do you have your choir you want Persona'd?

[onyx sparrow]

okay have it

i like this one

but how he know which choir i want?

how many different choirs are exists?

[half dragon]

Try upload it and use it?

[onyx sparrow]

the sample mode is extrem bad

i tried many times to upload samples to create a beat

except the sample everything sounds n1 but to combine the sample with the beat...this sounds not good

so much artefacts

and glitches

its not a clean tone

its better to use the cover mode

[half dragon]

Have you tried Cover? how was it

[onyx sparrow]

cover is good

much better

because he create the tones new

but to combine a exist tone

not so

[half dragon]

But at least it wasn't ignored.

[onyx sparrow]

hm?

i dont check this sentence i m no english guy

[half dragon]

Sorry, you said it ignored your prompts but at least Cover works better

[onyx sparrow]

no i meant cover works better vor sample upload

if u upload audio

a sample

[half dragon]

Quick try - may not be what you're looking for but I want to see how it came out
https://suno.com/s/LhFT7pAoT7R7GjfE

[onyx sparrow]

this was a sample?

which u created this beat?

[half dragon]

from your choir sample

upload and cover

[onyx sparrow]

from the mp3 what i uploaded?

what

is okay i dont need to understand

[half dragon]

not the sound you're after?

[onyx sparrow]

no the sounds are too fast

the brass is like a hammer

and the choir is too long

[half dragon]

ah... those things might be worked by prompts?
just a quick try to get the choir on the beat.

[vivid wasp]

That's what I was wondering when I said clunky.

What are the best AI video generators that aren't expensive?

[half dragon]

I want to know too.

[vivid wasp]

I wish Sora 2 was option for me right now. I could get some really good video covers with that

[half dragon]

They're really expensive - video generators to make something nice - the way you want it

[fallen fossil]

So I've separated tags in the prompt like others do but it's still off in tone. Should the tags be shorter? What is the secret sauce here?

[onyx sparrow]

what u think is cool?

not excatly that what i wanted but close enough

[quiet solar]

I don't fully understand what you mean, and there's no way to interpret what you're trying to do differently to give suggestions by saying it's "off" in tone.

Assuming you're referring to the style prompt, there isn't a secret trick. Suno interprets prompts pretty similarly whether you express them in open text or as a comma/semi-colon delimited list. It helps to clearly separate when you're giving it general prompts that apply to the entire song versus specific prompts that apply to a particular part of the song (e.g. the vocalist, instruments, or general directions for verses and choruses).

Anything more specific to a single section or a specific line is better handled using prompts in square brackets in the lyrics field e.g. [Chorus - soft breathy vocals and muted guitars].

And as a general rule, remember that prompts are suggestions and not commands. Suno may or may not act upon them - the more you add, and the deeper in to the style box they are, the less likely Suno is to account for any specific one.

If you want any more specific advice, you'll have to be clearer about what you're trying to do and what isn't working.

[neon path]

Hello can somone hlep me please i can not create hooks i get the error code: your account requires support assistance

i use 4 different Browser all the same there must be a Problem in Account i think.
I use the right format of Video.
Please Please Help me!!!

i use 4 different Browser all the same there must be a Problem in Account i think.
I use the right format of Video.
Please Please Help me!!!

Hello Visky1975,

Thank you for contacting Suno Support!

The error message you’re seeing may be related to our moderation system or could occur if the file you’re trying to upload doesn’t meet the required specifications for creating hooks. This might include issues such as an unsupported file format, incorrect file size or duration, or other technical parameters that prevent the upload from completing successfully.

Please try the following basic troubleshooting steps:

Log out of your account and log back in.
Clear your browser cache or try using a different browser.
Check your internet connection and ensure it’s stable.
Make sure your file meets the supported format and length requirements.
Try again after a few minutes, sometimes temporary moderation or upload issues can resolve automatically.

If the issue persists, please share more details so we can assist you further

i have all done

[opal orbit]

If you have a screenshot of the error message, that would help. But I don't think anyone in this channel will be able to fix anything if it is an account problem. I would try #archived-ticket-help for account support.

[pseudo loom]

Is there a collected list or so of ”commands” that work in prompting? By that I mean stuff like specific reference to key, dynamic markings, tempo markings, articulation markings, and expression markings etc?

[opal orbit]

OK yeah, only someone on the SUNO support team would be able to do anything about that.

I'm guessing it's like what they told you in the email, and you've got some temporary moderation limits on your account for whatever reason. Don't spam posting for now, and try again in a few hours. If you still can't by the next day, it probably means you need someone to manually need to remove the restrictions, and only someone from SUNO support can do that.

But for now, don't try to spam upload it. If you already tried multiple times in rapid succession, that might be why its got a temporary restriction.

[neon path]

Thanks for try to Help! 🙂 But ... i am Sad 🙁

[opal orbit]

There are some good tips if you search through #1252267444773326848 , but this is also a good place to ask about something specific

But keep in mind nothing is guaranteed to work, most of it is tips for things that work 80-90% of the time. The model won't always follow the script.

[pseudo loom]

Sure. Like all ai.

I just wonder if it responds at all to such terms as I listed?

[opal orbit]

Suno will recognize the terms, but where and how you place them in-line matters most.

[quiet solar]

The more musical the term generally yes. It often responds better to stylistic steers (e.g. driving tempo, prominent minor chords) than explicit requirements (145 bpm, key of A Minor).

You can give it a bit more stage direction in lyrics. It's trained on lyric notation, so will typically understand that anything in " " is supposed to be sung with a different emphasis, or by a second singer interjecting. Anything in ( ) is generally handed off to the backing singer, and it responds to the use of punctuation to give it a steer on cadence and expression.

[opal orbit]

Are you asking about directing the instruments, the vocals, or both? With either one you would need in-line instructions if your trying to get specific results at specific times.

I can help with vocal cues, such as how placing [ - ] (-lyric, ly-ric, lyric-) = different results. But I'm not as familiar with the instrumental guidance.

[pseudo loom]

Right. Thanks for the explanation.

One thing I haven’t been able to do is ritardando mid song to a slower tempo. I have made use of an input song I made for this, but that doesn’t seem to be catched up.

[pseudo loom]

I have made sectioning for [verse], [chorus] etc and some () for echoing or harmonising a vocal. I have not explored yet the stuff I asked about, such as Latin notation.

Or rather: I explored ritardando as described above, but that only seem to work at the end of a song.

[opal orbit]

Do you want it do be slowed down steadily throughout the song? Or in intervals like with each new verse or chorus?

[quiet solar]

As a very broad general rule, Suno's model doesn't like changing certain things mid-song - it will just about tolerate you requesting a key change (though it wil ignore you more frequently than normal), but will regularly throw its toys out of the pram if you try to switch time signature, tempo, genre or vocalists.

These things can be done, but to do it consistently tends to take you into workaround territory rather than just prompting.

[opal orbit]

Yep, this. SUNO doesn't change tempo's mid-song easily, though it could potentially be directed to with each new "section" (with varying degrees of sucess)

A workaround is to take your song into Studio (or another DAW) > splice your song into sections > manually slow those sections down in a gradual manner > reupload to SUNO > Cover.

SUNO's pretty good on sticking to the covers tempo if audio influence is high, just add 15-20% weirdness minimum to cover the weird artifacts your going to get from slowing it down.

[pseudo loom]

For this very song the ritardando happens between chorus 2 and the last verse and then keeps at that tempo till the end.

Which is why no possibility to use seed is a tough one for this.

I could ofc input that slowed down part for its own gen, but to get the same sound as before doesn’t really work, right?

[pseudo loom]

Right. Workarounds are ok ofc.

[opal orbit]

If you label that last verse as a [BRIDGE], and include the last chorus under that same label, you're more likely to get the change you want. SUNO naturally tends to slow down for bridges and if you [instruct] it to keep that same tone it might get results

[opal orbit]

No it wouldn't, but covering would help covering the unpleasant artifacts, and you could potentially modify the lyrics the fit in the new tempo. It's more just to make a rhythm that suno is capable of following, because its unlikely to do it naturally.

[quiet solar]

Hmm...toughie. You could brute force a tempo switch by generating the first part of the song at one tempo, then doing an extension from where the tempo is stable at a lower rate to the end, then use the Editor or Studio to change that extension to slow the tempo down. Then put the whole song together and remaster it and see if it fixes the transition between the two naturally.

But it's not something I've actually tried, so can't speak for likely success rate.

[stone plover]

does ''custom'' song generation not work on the free tier anymore?
I just keep getting system error, it works fine using the ''simple'' song generation option

[pseudo loom]

Right, but how do you mean ”include the last chorus under that same label”? Just write the chorus lyrics under [bridge]?

[opal orbit]

Yes. Just using spacing and tilde's to separate their sections. Though admittedly it's still a toss up, as your final chorus would sound different from previous ones, not just a slowed down version.

You could also try labeling it an [OUTRO] or [REPRISE] since those are naturally toned down/melancholic versions of a chorus.

[pseudo loom]

Ok. Will try. Thanks!

[opal orbit]

Temporary glitch. I just tested on my free alt. When I first loaded the page I was unable to type in the "Custom" box, but after reloading and rotating between pages (going from Create > Library > Create) it worked OK.

See if that works for you.

[fallen fossil]

More like if I'm trying to cover a song, me prompting "played in the same rhythm as original" doesn't quite work

[quiet solar]

Yeah, Suno won't understand references to the uploaded or previously created song, or anything that requires interpretation. It's not as sophisticated in that sense as LLMs like ChatGPT - it needs info that it can look up in its grand library of all the music it was trained on, so it can use that to influence the song (hopefully) in the way you intended.

A better bet if you're looking to closely mimic elements of the original is to turn the audio influence slider up from its default level, but keep the style influence mid-to-high because, presumably, there are things you're trying to change in the cover rather than just re-perform the original as closely as possible.

[raven turtle]

What’s going on with Suno. At least half my generations have a fidelity issue. Usually around the pre chorus it has a section that can only be described as muffled. And also other times I’ll get snares that change after each hit, loosing beat bed consistency. Some very odd fidelity problems that are burning through my credits. at this rate it’s hold off until 5.5+

[raw oasis]

Was just battling absolute hissing in my synth stem track (DAW) as well.. suggestions for fixing it? already got it compressed/eq'ed.. will do some Youtube searches. I would try to redo the synth track in Studio but I don't feel like a rando nightmare right now.

Okay I just have to cut above 10k in the EQ, not a suno answer but a salvage the track approach

[pseudo loom]

Btw: is there one or two examples of how detailed you can be in the lyric field to reference stuff in [], where it actually mostly responds?

[errant berry]

Has anyone ever got Vocal stems to work in Suno Studio? It always put instruments in the same stem so it seems impossible to get clean vocals

[raven junco]

Newbie…and boomer learning tech. 🫣
Can’t DL more than 30sec clip of a 2 min song onto my iPhone. Tips?

[simple monolith]

any way to emulate the style / vibe of a track without always getting a verbatim recitement of the track melody?

it's my own stuff. I want Suno to make "more stuff like mine" - but not just repeat the same melodies

[simple monolith]

standard problem right now this

[errant berry]

Did it ever work, did you ever get it to work personally? Are there any tricks one could use to make it work?

[simple monolith]

nah I think the tech is just not there yet in my limited experience

[quiet solar]

That's exactly what the Inspo feature is intended to facilitate.

[hasty sigil]

Only on certain songs very minimal. I always have to do an extra stem on Cubase/SpectraLayers to clean even more, when I work with stem. Instruments stems are often very messy. Kind a difference compared to working with DI stems 😁

[simple monolith]

just discovered the 'inspiration' feature - it's pretty good if you add a playlist of tracks in the style you want

[errant berry]

@simple monolith @hasty sigil I found a "hack" that increased the likelyhood for getting voice only stems. Just download your track, duplicate it to make it longer in Audacity or similar program and try again, hah. Now I got it working 2 times in a row. (Or maybe Suno got patched in the meantime.. hah)

[shrewd garden]

I am having a very annoying Problem. I am creating Songs with german lyrics, that all works pretty fine.
Because of the lyrics length (>5000 characters) i am dividing the creation process into piece.
But from a certain point, the language is pure jibberish. I don't know, if it is a max character count showing. But the lyrics remind me of the prompt, but they are not.
An idea?

[desert vector]

ok ill try there

hope they dont steal my voice

lol

is that how people put in drakes voice or rihannas i guess?

[hasty sigil]

Thank you, I'll try! Maybe this technique is good enough for improving Persona consistency, using exactly the same vocal timber for different songs I guess

[lunar geyser]

Is there a way to change a lyric in a song you created with suno? i tried to edit a certain lyric but Suno seemed to not understand what i wanted and completely changed the song in it's own way

[half dragon]

There isn't a good way to completely change the lyric and keep the instrument arrangement exactly the same - not in Suno.
Cover will allow you to change the lyric and keep basic melody but you will end up with different arrangement and instruments.
Editor will also allow to replace the section - I used that a lot of fix mispronounced words in the lyric but never to replace the entire lyric.
Studio will also allow to replace vocal stem but I found smaller section might work well - even that you might endup with gyberish most of the time...

[uncut wharf]

this may sound weird, but is there a way to prompt the output so that the song does not sound polished and sound more like demo and raw/organic?

[frozen dagger]

Can use an older model, or tags like [grainy texture]. [Demo quality] may work. Just fine terms to define the demo quality. Like what type of recording, like what it was recorded on. I don't know the name of equipment used I'd search for that.

[glad mauve]

is ti possible to reliably get 3 different voices like one male voice another male voice and then like a group voice

[half dragon]

Possible but not reliably possible.

[glad mauve]

Any advice im having trouble

[simple monolith]

What whole track or just stem?

[errant berry]

whole song, then use the "Open in Studio" button. However, now it's not working for me again.. So maybe it's more up to the prompt. It seems very unstable

[half dragon]

I'm afraid that no advise would guarantee. Just have to experiment with it.
Some has used names in [...] on section of lyric and specify in the style for duet or trio
Just know that you might get random results that way.
Other way would be start with a voice then go back to the section you want a different voice, then Extend from there to build that section...
Then once you like what you get, move on to the next section...
For the group section , might be tricky, but can be done with Studio, by stacking up those different voice sections together...
But even then... the chance to get the same voice again with Extend might be low as well.
This kind of song will take a lot of time, patience and credits. You might be succeeded or failed misserably.

[half dragon]

Or one could create Personas from the voice in other songs - then use 3 different Personas in Extend - that way might keep the voice consistent in parts

[glad mauve]

Thats an idea

[dapper shuttle]

Can suno create personas from v3 content, i just brought pro for this function and no matter what i do it just says "error creating persona"

[ebon sand]

It theoretically can create a persona from any Audio file, maybe it doesn't like the name you tried to set?

[quiet solar]

It's pretty tricky getting two distinct voices into a song, let alone three. I've never heard Suno use more than two distinct voices (typically lead/backing) at the same time, even if you have other voices in the song.

I have done a three voice song, and it was an absolute mission and wasn't done entirely within Suno. This is pushing the limits of what Suno is capable of doing in it's current versions. But if you're determined to open this can of worms and don't mind being very patient with it taking lots of attempts;

• It's very helpful to describe the three singers separately in the style prompt and have them be distinctly identifiable. By that, Suno is better able to distinguish, for example, a male bass from a male alto, or a female voice from a male voice. If you try to prompt for two male tenors, you'll very likely only end up with one. Haven't found a reliable way around that to date.

• You then need to call the singers in at the appropriate points using style prompts in the lyrics box, e.g. [Female Alto] before their next line. The more times you switch singers, and the more complicated and irregular your switching is inside of Verses and Chorus, the more likely that Suno will make a mistake - prompts are suggestions, not commands, so it won't always switch exactly when you want to. In some genres, Suno gets strongly influenced by how two vocalists typically split lyrics in the genre as a whole.

• The tag [Call and Response] can be helpful if two singers are alternating one after the other for a specific section, or across the entire song - in which case you should also add it to the style prompt.

In terms of building the song, the odds of Suno getting it right in a single generation are astronomically small. There are two broad ways to get around this:

• Pick a song which gets the opening section right, then Extend from that to repeat the next section, and slowly build up as you go. Using personas based on the vocal stems of specific singers can help in this process. The end result will likely be an absolute horror show for consistency, so you'll need to remaster or cover it to smooth over the cracks, and you may need to do some additional fixing on certain sections with the vocals.

• Generate the song on a single singer from start to finish. Extend before the end and repeat the entire song, but with the second singer, and again do the same again for the third. Download the instrumental stem of the original and the vocals stems of all three, and use Studio or an external audio editor like Audacity to switch the correct vocals into the correct places. This typically won't work well for harmonies, as they'll sing the same melody, so you may need additional runs focusing on getting two of the singers to harmonise with each other that you can use as needed.

Further to the above, you may want to consider singing the melody or harmonies yourself and using that as an audio feed for Suno if you need the singers to be consistent on cadence or harmonisation. This was a 10-12 hour project for me, so expect it's going to take time, a lot of trial and error, and manual support in editing.

Good luck. 🙂

[radiant breach]

Dumb question here:

Does internet quality affect song quality? I see people wanting to run this locally like it gives better stuff. Or the "max" option they had with v5 for 1hour. It said it would use more data and cpu power to make better songs. So if my internet is running poorly will it give bad gens?

[quiet solar]

No - if there's any impact, it'll be on the server end for Suno. Bad internet will just impact how quickly your request is sent across or how quickly you receive the generated song.

[onyx sparrow]

maybe the browser has also a impact

because the run with different engines

but i testet firefox chrome opera fx the different was not so huge

but wave is the best quality what u get

but u also can write maybe some mixing stuff in the style section

[radiant breach]

I only ask because my extends were bad and gens were pronunciating poorly. I realized I was at the end of my billing cycle where they throttle you after 60gb. I use Hotspot. So it was slower. I figured the lack in quality could've been because of my data.

[onyx sparrow]

i dont think so

okay i dk

excalty

but if your volume is capped id think it reduces the quality

somtimes if i generate 20 tracks there are few tracks with shi t quality

i think this is normal

sometimes u hear more transients sometimes its very soft sometimes u have background noises

somtimes u have artefacts

sometimes u get glitches

its not very stable defents on with prompt u write

depends

which prompt

sometimes u have harsh instruments

sometimes u have harsh highs

its not stable

i think if the data transfer is less i think u get the same quality on suno as with normal data transfere

or i hope

[ebon sand]

no don't worry, that's not how it works

[onyx sparrow]

and someone know if i write "mixing" things in the style section does he understand this? like "desser"

or " decend compression"

or things like that

or less transients and

so

or harder kick

distoration 808

[frozen dagger]

try opening the song in editor and then "Export" or "Save as New Song" (same thing), this will create a copy of the song/file. Go to that new "song"/copy and see if the option to create Persona is available and working then. This works when the Persona option is greyed out for me.

[keen iris]

Hello, is there a way to download whole playlist or atlist few tracks?
I mean like together, in zip or smtn like that

[frozen dagger]

as far as i know, no, not yet.

[onyx sparrow]

and my question:>?

he understand mixing prompts?

or mastering prompts

?

[frozen dagger]

Suno knows what all that means, but as always, results WILL vary.

[onyx sparrow]

k tx

is white noise good or bad?

what makes the remaster function?

damn he mix the trackxD

didnt know about this functionxD

[tired forge]

Can I take a vocal stem and an instrumental stem from two different sources and put them together to make one song?

[onyx sparrow]

in the studio

in the new daw u can but it together

but to create a full track idk

u need the instrumanetal first and make a full beat

then u add the vocals

and look what he creates

u can choose if u want the sounds in the studio or he creates random some sound hopefull which fit together and what u like

[tired forge]

Is the studio something that you get that's above the basic pro plan?

[frozen dagger]

premier yes

[quiet solar]

If you don't have Premier, you'll need to do that in an external editor. FWIW, Audacity has basically the same interface as Suno Studio and a lot more helpful functions for that type of fusion work.

[tired forge]

Mother ******!

I asked because a friend prefers a version of my song with a pretty good guitar over this one...

https://suno.com/s/d4EFqp6YMKRKBxf3

Which I love the vocals of, but the guitar on the other one is pretty good.

[opal orbit]

You could absolutely split the stems and take the instrumental from the other, and the vocals from this, and splice them together in Audacity or something. I've done that with quite a few of my songs.

[onyx sparrow]

what i hate guys IS

if i have a super n1 track BUT HE IS laway TOO SHORT

i get always 2 minutes tracks and maybe sometime a 3 min track

where i can set the lengh ?

length

[opal orbit]

There's no way to set length, but in-line prompting can help extend things. Where do you want to lengthen the track? Add longer instrumental breaks? Sing the verses slower?

[tired forge]

Is that an app or website?

[hollow hare]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1422252931943501935

https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2409601

[onyx sparrow]

yeah but i dont want to combine 2 parts

or to glue it together

[opal orbit]

It's a free DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) that you can download. https://www.audacityteam.org/

[onyx sparrow]

i want a full track from the start

[hollow hare]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1422252931943501935

[onyx sparrow]

^^

[opal orbit]

I understand. Putting in-line instructions in your original generation can make it come out like that on the first go

[onyx sparrow]

and the prompt is?

length 3 min?

[opal orbit]

No, putting length instructions won't do anything. Do you have a Suno link or lyrics you'd be willing to share? I could show you where to add [instructions] to help naturally lengthen it

[opal orbit]

Oh, another important question. Are you using simple or custom mode?

[onyx sparrow]

costum

[frozen dagger]

you can artificially set length by just copy and pasting sections of music from the alareaadaay ccreated song to artificially extend the track to desired length and then "Recreate" the part you ussed for placeholders. Just one way to kinda work around.

[onyx sparrow]

🙁

[opal orbit]

That's true, but it's not as helpful if you want a longer track from the start. Good way to keep a melody you like though

[onyx sparrow]

yeah but is there no prompt because he understand mix and mastering but he dont check the track should be longer?

xD

[frozen dagger]

you need to add insturmental breaks in your lyric tags like [breakdown] etc telling it where you want the instrumental parts

[opal orbit]

So, for example;

This might result in a shorter track:
[Verse 1]
[Chorus]
[Verse 2]
[Chorus]
[Outro]

This would lengthen it:
[Instrumental intro]
[Verse 1]
[Chorus]
~
[Verse 2]
[Chorus]
~
[Instrumental break]
~
[Outro]

[onyx sparrow]

Verse 1

Lost in the shadows of a restless night,
I feel the echo pulling me inside.
Your voice is fading like a distant light,
Still it keeps me moving through the tide.

Pre-Chorus

I feel the rise beneath my skin,
A quiet fire growing in.

Chorus / Drop Line

Pull me through the dark again,
(ahh…)
Let me feel your warmth within,
(ahh…)
Even in the night we shine,
I’m falling through the fear, to find you. i have this

[opal orbit]

Tilde's (~) signify a break or change of pace in the lyrics when place between lines. And adding instructions for [instrumental break] or similiar adds more natural length

[onyx sparrow]

if i make the vocals longer the track gettings also longer automaticly?

yeah okay i try tx

[opal orbit]

Yes, but it also depends on spacing. On this line "I’m falling through the fear, to find you. i have this"
I'm guess you want a pause between "to find you." and "I have this."

Line breaking will help with SUNO differentiate it as a separate lyric:
I’m falling through the fear, to find you.
I have this.

[onyx sparrow]

okay

yeah i try tx for help

[opal orbit]

Good luck!

[onyx sparrow]

tx^^

[tired forge]

Oh dang it... Audacity isn't a free program… Of course…

[onyx sparrow]

its free

since the second worldwar

xD

i dont pay a sh...for this shi..

[opal orbit]

I'm confused, Audacity is definitely free... Where are you looking?

If your referring to the cloud setup it takes you to right after downloading, that's a separate and optional feature. You don't need that to use it.

[tired forge]

It says Try for Free, but then has a Payment Plan thing

Guess I'll use the bathroom and then try to login on my finicky laptop again.

[quiet solar]

Audacity is 100% free

[opal orbit]

Are you positive your not looking at one of their optional add-ons or storage plans? You can opt-out or hit "Maybe later" on all of those and just use Audacity.

I just downloaded it to test and its still definetely free

If your looking at this, you don't need that

[tired forge]

I went back several times and I'm looking at this now

[opal orbit]

Ohhhhhhhhhh. I'm referring to a desktop program. What your seeing on the app store is something else

[tired forge]

So I don't want their website?

[opal orbit]

What do you mean? I don't think audacity has a mobile app.

[true night]

If i upload an vocal Thingy and it give me an transcription why if i ever repeat anything more then 6 times all i get is the last thing i said forever more its technicaly not Prompt but it is when the Promp is defined after how i make an song and it get stuck in me repeating 1 word 8 times but it thinks i dop it 202 times . any clue how to prevent this beside clip it into sections an upload that what i do now atm clip 1 to 10 . Thanks in advance

[opal orbit]

Are you referring to when the transcription "glitches" and doesn't record the words correctly? Just wanna make sure I'm understanding.

[scenic surge]

Did you guys ever get into a situation where you just need a pure track of guitar riffs over your song , but Suno keeps generating a full guitar session instead?
Like, instead of giving clean solo riffs, it adds strumming, rhythm parts, or guitar arpeggios in the background and there's no way to separate them because it all ends up being recognized as one guitar stem.
how would you deal with that ?

[opal orbit]

Not a good work-around to that, unfortunately. If you have SUNO studio sometimes you can get a clean solo track generation. Otherwise the best bet is going into the song editor and regenning over sections with a prompt like [clear distinct guitar riffs]. But it can eat credits pretty quickly

And you would still need to stem out and recombine your guitar track back into your original mix

[scenic surge]

Oh I haven't tried the song editor yet , in general this is better than the studio with these scenarios ?

[opal orbit]

For what you are specifically wanting, yes.

[scenic surge]

got it thanks

[exotic tree]

how to solve this i have sent emails and no response and does anyone know who is the main factor of this only when v5 voice when i press generate song it says this for days Make an error The creation failed due to an internal error. Please wait a few seconds and try again

[lunar linden]

Meh. It mostly has an unusual structure (like, it doesn't necessarily rhyme or follow the usual ABAB/AABB line structure). It can also generate "naughty" things, at least when I used it (so much so, that I got "warnings" about the things it produced, and it wouldn't let me see them! That was funny). Typically, I generate a bunch of lyrics with both models, copy and paste them into a text/Word/Google document, then pull out lines I like and write additional lines to make them work out better.

[graceful condor]

Any idea how to make metal songs that have “breathing” room in-between sections? I’ve tried using [Bridge] and include slower bpm in prompt but it is in a hurry to song those lyrics

[frozen dagger]

#📚┃suno-school message

[frozen dagger]

scroll up to abotu there to see

[quick sonnet]

How to get the ful style prompt of a track?

[frozen dagger]

uploading any audio Suno will create aa text prompt for the style , if that's what you mean.

[polar spade]

We can not know unless we can repeat the error. There is nothing ytou have said that we can try to repeat.

The error says its a Suno problem.

So, if things you try are not helping, it is likely you would wait the 3 weeks for response from Support to tell you what is the cause.

I hope it clears quickly for you so you can be up and creating.

[quick sonnet]

No I would like to see the ful style prompts of tracks, I have generated, so I can reuse them.

[astral wolf]

Funny Thing: The lyric "Let there be light! And there was light!" is copyrighted...

[frozen dagger]

iti's listed under the tracks info, may have to click sshow more

[quick sonnet]

Yes, but after the changes made on suno can't find it anymore.

[frozen dagger]

changes made to a track wwere saved as a new track, posssibly with no style or different sstyle, but the original iss still there with the originial prompt

[polar spade]

You could download and upload and let suno analyze it. 💁‍♂️

[quick sonnet]

This would give me a strange result. What I want is just to reuse a prompt, I used befor. I have always done it like OBLMOUS iviuse explained, but after the new changes on suno can't get the ful style prompt of a track.

[astral wolf]

Suno is broken. Songs come out partially extremly glitchy.

my bad. Wierdness was set to 100% Chaos. sorry

[polar spade]

I mean, yeah. Clicking "reuse lyrics and prompts" on the original usually does that. Or copy and paste from the original. I could be missing something here.

I cant see where this is going except that its not working for you.

You got me. 🤷 hope something clicks then.

[exotic tree]

How do I know if they will solve it or what should I do?

[quick sonnet]

Now I found it, thanks. My bad.

[frozen dagger]

if you saved the prompt it could be in your little quick prompt?
can you follow the "This song was remixed from" trail to find the original with the prompt?
If not that then you're surfing through oyour workspace pages (assuming this file has the same name as many other gens; otherwise just search for it with search bar)

[quick sonnet]

I have found the solution, thanks to Dasvon again, but also appreciate your help.

[polar spade]

Keep records and screenshots of the error and things like the refresh date passing and you being charged with no access. Just make sure you have as much details so when they contact you in 3-4 weeks that you have the details to back you up.

They they should tell you what happened and maybe what to do to avoid it happening again.

[polar spade]

@frozen dagger gave a better answer. I just gave the lazy one. 🤣

[quick sonnet]

But it works and that's what counts.

[exotic tree]

Keep records and screenshots of the error and things like the refresh date passing and you being charged with no access. Just make sure you have as much details so when they contact you in 3-4 weeks that you have the details to back you up.

They they should tell you what happened and maybe what to do to avoid it happening again.

[exotic tree]

I already sent that I am subscribed and screenshots, but on V5 Voice it says that there was an error creating.

[idle dew]

So i tried asking in general but didn't get an answer. Does suno take prepaid visa vanilla cards for subscription?

[tired forge]

I wonder which version I should install since I don't have a Windows or Mac laptop. It's a Chromebook...

[tired forge]

I don't know which version to install since I don't have a Windows nor Mac laptop.

[half dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dnn125kec4&t=80s

[tired forge]

So install the Linux version?

Cool

Welp… I don't have the thing Penguin under the Terminal, so FML. Thanks anyway.

I give up.

[polar spade]

@i t will be a couple more weeks before your email reaches the top. By then you may have had a refresh/charge. You should continue to keep records while waiting.

You seem to be using the app. So have you uninstalled and reinstalled the app? Note any passwords you may need before doing that.

[quick wedge]

Hi Dasvon. How are you? 👋😊
Hope you’re having a good evening so far?

[quiet solar]

You have to enable Linux development on the Chromebook first, you can't just skip straight to install. If you want to use it, watch the whole YouTube video that VRKing linked. Or there's always Suno Studio...

[tired forge]

I'll try watching from the beginning since it didn't start there.

[visual plank]

have you tried [instrumental]?

[restive pebble]

Yes, I agree with @graceful condor and if that doesn't work try using [Break] or "..." sometimes works for a brief pause.
I also find having a single space after each line seems to provide better results but that may just be delirium from creating all day.
Suno enjoys its own measure of freedom at our expense and we must always try any method we can to influence its behavior.

[exotic tree]

I've tried everything but on v5 it still says create error when I click generate song

[desert vector]

so ive made a song i like in suno, it sounds a bit distorted though, is there a way to fix it?

[vivid wasp]

Why on Earth when I'm making a new song on v5 would it only give me a 1:20 gen. It has 2 verses; 2 chorus' and a bridge in it

[trail vine]

can anyone help with some suggestions on how to upgrade from Pro to Premier? I want to upgrade now and it keeps telling me Your upgrade failed. Your payment method has not been charged. I have tried this now probably 20 times over the course of two days. Have deleted and re-added my payment method. Added a different card and tried that as my default. Both cards have plenty of funds for the upgrade to go through. Yet it still won't process. Has anyone had this issue? It's so frustrating!

[half dragon]

Only v5? v4.5 works?

[half dragon]

It'd be very difficult to fix if the sound was distorted - it might be fixable externally in DAW if one knows what to do but not on Suno, I'm afraid.
If you really like the song and really want to save it on Suno - try Cover it and push the Audio Influence Slider up as high as 80 - 85 and Weirdness slider to as low as 10-20
That might give you almost the same song with hopefully better sound.

[exotic tree]

yes that's how it is with it I can generate and with v5 it no longer says this when I want to generate with v5 The creation failed due to an internal error. Wait a few seconds and try again.

[half dragon]

Contact [e-mail] if you haven't. Only them can help you if you have done all you can by trying different cards.
Have the Pro sub been renewed okay? last month if you're on monthly plan?
But yeah billing would be your only hope. After received your acknowledge email that they received, visit #archived-ticket-help for follow up while waiting for the official response.

[half dragon]

Not sure what's going on - as I've been creating earlier today with v5.
Have you tried to clear the browser cache and cookies and then try again?

[exotic tree]

I've already subscribed 3-4 times and cancelled every time when I bought credits and now it says the next payment is on 6.3.2026

[exotic tree]

I tried a couple of times and nothing.

[exotic tree]

hmm when I delete cookies and cache and go into suno it says 4.5all and I generate normally and when I delete the application and download it again then I get v5 and when I want to generate something on v5 then it says create error failed

[half dragon]

Did you try to create a song with your own lyric? or Auto mode? would it work one and not the other?

[exotic tree]

none of them work on v5

[half dragon]

That's really strange - ok how about try on another browser?
If all fail, then send all that details to [e-mail] for help.

[exotic tree]

I sent it, I've been waiting for days, no one is responding and I don't know if it's them or me.

[half dragon]

Yeah - there's always a backlog so there will be a waiting period but they will respond.
Its definitely not you.

[tardy wing]

anybody else no longer have the running time stamp displayed on their song player ui? it's gone for me on both mobile web (chrome) and the android app.

being gone on both platforms seems to coincidental to be a glitch on my end but can't for the life of me figure out what sense there would be in removing that.

[sage tapir]

hello

Let's say hello to everyone.

[abstract flower]

I need help to understand the new stem extractor's download options.

1. What is the difference between plain and tempo-locked WAV files?
2. When downloading WAV+MIDI zip file, which of the two kinds of WAV files I will get?
   Thanks! 🙏

[onyx sparrow]

what is this? breath? but the breath sounds no clean

sounds like a crusher bitcrusher

[abstract flower]

I don't have a phone handy, but when I enable mobile screen emulation in Firefox debugger, I see exactly the same thing. Must be a bug. I hope…

[abstract flower]

Yes, this is an ingressive breath sound. How it sounds is entirely one's opinion.

[onyx sparrow]

okay but if i breath i dont have this

i have a clean breath

[abstract flower]

You can certainly record and use your own vocal.
You of course understand that the sound is synthesised by an AI model, and is not a real human's breath sound.
Since you cut off the vocal, it's hard to say whether it's loud or very quiet, but for a quiet vocal, your sample sounds realistic enough to me. Although your own sound is probably different.

[abstract flower]

I reported the issue via the Suno feedback form. Don't send a duplicate bug report please.

[distant crystal]

can someone give me a bit of guidance here. i am using add vocals feature on an instrumental ive uploaded to give me ideas for my own song.

what settings should i use to get the instrumental the exact same, or is that not possible? because when i generate a song with this, the beat is always a bit different

[honest heath]

In advanced settings put the audio influence up to 90%, you wont get an exact copy but it should be close

[distant crystal]

thankyou, does style influence and weirdness affect it at all or should those just be put on how i want the lyrics to come out

[raw oasis]

they do affect it.

[distant crystal]

briefly, how? im still v new to this but i’ve always understood weirdness as how unique the vocals sound/or instrumental sound & style influence as how closely style prompt is followed

so weirdness should be lower when wanting to get close to exact beat? what should be done w style

[honest heath]

yes, use low wierdness when trying to make a copy

wierdness is how much randomness is thrown into the mix, sometimes its useful

[abstract flower]

Does Studio work for everybody? It opens for me, but if I move anything that displays tracks (e.g. zoom in), all waveforms disappear from coloured track rectangles. Try dragging the end fade, the Studio workspace (the whole rectangle with tracks on it) goes all white. I suspect my GPU is simply too weak (GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop, Intel CPU notebook, Windows 11). Same thing in Edge and in Firefox. Is there a work-around?

[abstract flower]

I'm wondering why you didn't recommend 100%? I remember vaguely that I had some weird issues at 100%, but am not even sure...

[honest heath]

yea 100% gets funky

I always stick between 10-90

[polar spade]

Having the initial auto-respond letter which ypu posted in the ticket-help channel is indication that your email is in queue. Congratulations.

Such that . . . once we are in the email queue, we [ you, I and everyone else] **will NOT ** get further emails updating us on estimated times of when they will contact us. Doing that would add an extensive delay time to the needed responses. So, to help speed up things , we should NOT expect any response for at least 3 weeks from the initial auto-response letter we already got.

The next email you get will be when they review your inquiry , and that is after all emails from those before you are reviewed. The average time presently is about 4 weeks it seems -- from the reports of users who post that their matter has been resolved.

Both this channel and ticket-help (the channel to provide info on how to set up your ticketing by emailing support) , are mostly user and peer-to-peer chats to try helping sift through our issues. Beyond that, we, I, you, and anyone in here are NOT Support. There are NO Support-backed channels in Discord. These channels are only community user assisted.

Between myself and @half dragon , we seem to have exhausted all the possible scenarios that might relate to your issue.

Beyond that, your next step, which you have taken , is to send email to Support. Thanks.

Thanks for following through and being patient. Again, no response should be expected until , id say, around mid-December at this time.

[nimble sierra]

Has anything changed on 'Cover' audio - i cant seem to put styles in?

[polar spade]

You mean uploading an audio, then Covering it? Or all Covers in general?

[polar spade]

Something may need updating on your end or its rolling out, but I have a scrubline with time referenced on the ends now. Im a Premium user on this screenshot.

[small prairie]

Hi Friends, i need help - I tried to upgrade my subscription from Pro to Premier, but I get the message “Your upgrade failed. Your saved payment method was not charged.”
My payment method is valid, and no charge attempt appears in my bank

[echo moat]

the vst i'm using wants to know what scale my song is in, anyone to find that out from suno?

[polar spade]

Did you copy and paste my text as your post. 🫣 It just looked like my post glitched and showed under your user name. 😅

[polar spade]

Always good to check that your personal info on your card is exactly, exactly, exactly the same as in your SSO or log-in/Suno info. Get that detail out of the way at least. Security algorhythms are very picky.

[small prairie]

Meanwhile, funds for a PRO subscription are being debited from my card every month without any problems. The problem is clearly on your end, as I haven't even received a text message informing me of any attempts to debit my account. Please resolve this!

[nimble sierra]

uploading audio and then covering it. I can't seem to enter anything in the style field. I'm sure I used to be able to

[polar spade]

I dont recall Suno showing the key anywhere,

° .....but a hack can be to download it , upload it and see if Suno analyzes and says what key its in, in the Suno generated prompt description, which it does occassionally.

° Play a keyboard or guitar and find the root note of your song.

° apps like Moises and Fadr will tell you, but limited to a free trial. You might find permanent free apps as well.

[polar spade]

It appears ytou have a current valid card , but do not wish that card account to be charged the Premium amount? and you are needing to change your payment information.

Have you tried , while in Pro, to first updating your payment information, to see which card or account is accepted?

But if you insist on Suno resolving the issue only, we are just users help other users. There is no Support set in the Discord channels.

Requesting support is done directly through email only. You might check this information https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1372994553233276970 to provide the best protocol to request a ticket to be in the email queue.

It may certainly be a server issue, as one other user recently noted something similar. However, its good to go through as many options to work it out on the user end to at least be sure before waiting the present 3 weeks or so response from Support.

So try changing your payment method first while in Pro and you have time before a refresh charge. Thats a safer route to "test" different payment sources and could be what you need.

[polar spade]

Yea. That seems like a thing. Ill try one.

A recording with style prompt and Cover seems no problem: passed

Added style to a Cover of an upload : passed

[small prairie]

Thank you very much))))) I really thought there was tech support here too. Sorry for my tone. Thanks for your attention!

[polar spade]

As you see, there is the other user in ticket-help who might have a similar issue. Who knows, but best to do as much on the self-help side while waiting.

.Hope we can help you further if you need.

[nimble sierra]

I uploaded a track. then I select 'cover' - but i can't enter a style?

i can add existing styles shown at the bottom eg techno. But I can't enter them myself

what options are you using to select cover

[polar spade]

Right. Just saying it works for me as a compare only. A couple of others saying they cant enter a style for some reason.

I might suggest finding an older upload from last month that COULD add styles to before. Try it again today. If it works, it may be something to do with the new audio uploaded (?)

[nimble sierra]

It works on something from 16th oct - using the usual way ie selecting cover from remix edit in the workpace list, which then creates a page on the LHS. However, I think i've sorted it. If you select the song page that produces the RHS pane (i think that's the one on your screenshot) and then select remix edit and then cover it works - you can then enter style

I think something has changed in the workspace list - you can't go from that to the LHS panel, you have to go via the RHS panel.

[gaunt merlin]

I have same issue, beforehand it would generate automatically style matching the uploaded song of recording, now nothing happens

[nimble sierra]

it might be the intention is you can store your own styles that you can then select again, but its not working at the moment

[gaunt merlin]

I really liked it could match my upload. Was using alot.

I hope they fix the issue, like if you want to write a different style, its easy to just delete the auto generated

[nimble sierra]

although a lot of people want to eg cover with a new style, eg a reggae version of a country and western etc

[exotic tree]

and how do I know the cause so it doesn't happen to me again and how do I know they will fix it?

[half dragon]

Do you have access to Suno Studio?
That will show you the key of the songs along with bpm

[thorn vortex]

Hello guys, I sent an email some weeks ago but I didnt get any answer. Does the support work?!

[half dragon]

It does despite the fact that it's taking longer than expected.
Visit #archived-ticket-help for follow up on your ticket email.

[thorn vortex]

got it, thanks

[polar spade]

The beauty behind my trusting people is that I leave the matters in their hands that I cant change. For a while at least.

[azure crane]

The V5 sounds sooo good but sometimes it just behaves so tiresomely, like repeating phrases as if it were a notch in a "broken" vinyl record. The extend function has never worked so that thing needs to be fixed immediately. I always have to switch to the V4.5 PRO to be able to run an extend.

[vestal folio]

Hello, I would like to send my raw vocals to Suno, without any effects, so that he can mix them like the music he creates, but with my voice. Is that possible?

[exotic tree]

So they'll definitely fix it for me?

[stoic crypt]

Need help with billing

Please

[polar spade]

Nothing is "definitely"

I have no idea what is causing it.

But at the least, they will give your options.

[half dragon]

You can definitely try that - Suno will generate the vocal track based on that but wouldn't be exactly the same. It could be very close or very different.

[vestal folio]

How can I get the best possible results? I just bought Suno, but I don't know how to use it.

[half dragon]

There are a few ways to try.
Watch these videos for idea of how to try them.
Using Extend feature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfDK8a3-0kc

Replace vocal track using services like kits.ai ..etc..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=604bc6J4s98

Replace vocal track in your DAW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI-fI8UumNo

[mild parrot]

Any reason Subscribe button wouldn't work? It tries redirecting but then resets.

[fervent pasture]

Not sure if this is the right channel, but I am trying to get a song to extend and the results it is giving me are notcably different from the original song that is being extended. The voice of the singer changes, and the melody is different. Is there any way to get it closer to the original? I am not changing anything in the style itself.

One of them the tempo is sped up like a chipmonk lol

[hard beacon]

check https://suno.com/explore for example genres

incl. audio examples

😄

looks like you are still struggeling with your style.. the GPT i've send to you doesn't work?

ahh.. ok 🙂

well.. it's not a bug... it's a feature to create new subgenres 😄

i am not a pro in hip-hop culture 🙂

east... west... south... norht... just directions for me 😄

*north

[glad remnant]

i create a song with my own lyrics.. will SUNO give me commercial right?

[hard beacon]

depends on the plan

free, pro, premier ?

[glad remnant]

i get pro version and then create it.. and then publish it for coomecial use.. any dispute aftrewards.. whats happen

[hard beacon]

if you create the track with pro or premier you can use it for commercial use....

and you are owning 100% of the rights

[glad remnant]

i have my own lyrics for a song.. and then i am using suno AI for voice and music.. i have no voice or msuic.. but lyrics are my own so lets say i get pro verson and built the song with suno own voice and music, then cani use it as my own to publish and ocmmercial use?

[hard beacon]

yes... but one thing... suno won't use YOUR voice for the creations...it will be replace by AI vocals

[glad remnant]

i am not at all usning my voice but only my own written lyrics. so any any voice by suno or music by suno would be allowed for me to use as mine and commercial purpose stating as music and song directed and written by myself.. under the pro version? and what happen once i end the ubscription to the pro version.. anything caretaed under the pro version still stay my own material legally or not?

[hard beacon]

well.. own written lyrics are no problem.. you can do evertyhing you want with songs you are creating with suno with pro or premier.

release it.. sell it...make it public.. use it for commercials... do whatever you want 😉

[glad remnant]

i still didnt get a clarity.. like i said its my own lyrics but with suno my lyrics get a shape with music and voice.. so i want to make sure that when its done under a pro version, and when when the pro version expires, still whatever created by me during the pro version will remain my own copyright and creation regrdaless whatever music and voicecs introduced by suno for the work.... am i getting right or not?

[hard beacon]

even if your subscription ends you can still use the output 100% with your rights...

WHEN is was created with Pro

you can read it here: https://suno.com/terms-of-service

[glad remnant]

but i have heard that there are cpyright issues and legal problems suno is facing.. and i dont want to be included in any issues.. so if any such occurs what suno will do?

[hard beacon]

see my text above

[glad remnant]

s pro version include it all?

[hard beacon]

yes

[glad remnant]

how much?

[hard beacon]

only with the free acount you don't have the rights for commercial usage

[glad remnant]

and with pro version?

[hard beacon]

pro:

Access to latest and most advanced v5 model
2,500 credits (up to 500 songs), refreshes monthly
Commercial use rights for new songs made
Standard + Pro features (personas and advanced editing)
Split songs into up to 12 vocal and instrument stems
Upload up to 8 min of audio
Add new vocals or instrumentals to existing songs
Early access to new features
Ability to purchase add-on credits
Priority queue, up to 10 songs at once

for you the most important thing is: Commercial use rights for new songs made

[glad remnant]

yes anything i create should have commercial right as my own copyright

[hard beacon]

yes

[glad remnant]

how much monthly and yearly for unlimited