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polar spade
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Support may still need to help you "lift" the lock on the subscription as any outstanding bill will still technically be floating out there.

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The account may be canceled to no longer bill each month. The subscription may still be locked though.

half dragon
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Unfortunately all we can do is wait for their response. It usually takes up to 14 days or so.

dusky snow
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Have I missed any important conversations about plans to increase upload duration? I love the idea of covering my original music, but I only have like 5 songs that are 2 minutes or under.

polar spade
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Don't need that up then. Delete. Delete.

polar spade
half dragon
polar spade
polar spade
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I had an uncle (years ago) who tells his story of asking his wife while shes at the bank to specifically ask for 4 , $25 dollar bills, as change for $100. She wasnt happy when she called him.

half dragon
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what did she say?

polar spade
# half dragon what did she say?

She was just mad when the bank explained to her there's no such thing as $25 dollar bills. He liked taunting her. This was the 80s.

gilded walrus
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I am also having the same trouble ’not allowed to access this application'. Suno Support Team has not given any answer for several days.
My account is linked to Microsoft Account.
I also strongly hope to solve it!

patent sand
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Expect 3+ weeks

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The good news is that they brought on a lot of new staff a few weeks ago to help with the wait times

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but I would still expect 3 weeks minimum

gilded walrus
opaque kestrel
past kernel
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I get an error "unauthorized" anyone knows how to fix it?

half dragon
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Is this legit? I've never heard of a ticketing system with Suno support team.

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where

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That doesn't seem an official link to me, so reluctuant to click it.. I wouldn't recommend anyone to.

hollow hare
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Please don't go there, it is obv a scam or worse

past kernel
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I was about to say: what? i never saw a ticket system

half dragon
neat nexus
naive ibex
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Pinging about robotic voice after "update". Unusable now.... 🤖

And in general, how careless is that, that on official Discord channel only community, nice people helping each other, and "the team" not reading and popping up once per year.... In beginning of May it was near perfect (if find a good style description), not it's unusable robo-"songs"

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Or at least someone tell when will be next "improvement" with silent update, so people not waste their time and not burning credits (it's not free)

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Meanwhile many companies have even shared roadmap on "trello" etc

hollow hare
naive ibex
# hollow hare 1. Can you provide a link for the robotic voice? Usually the issue with this is ...

Can't share work in progress. It is literally ALL songs are robotic. The key point is not that I'm a noob, and know what I'm doing. Like redirectling and blame customers instead of deva fault and mess (and not for the first time). Before I have 9/10 gereration great, in the beginning of May, god bless that used all credits in advance, 10,000..... now from last 50 songs I have 0 (ZERO) at useful quality, everything is bad. Other people noticed too....

So, 90% from 2000 previous generations were great, and now 0% from 50 is kind of showing itself.

Same style, same kind of lyrics

patent sand
naive ibex
hollow hare
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/support

flint havenBOT
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hollow hare
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Mind you, support had a HUGE backlog, about a month wait time

patent sand
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because 3.5 should not have been updated, unless they messed with the core AI itself

hollow hare
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People typically attribute bad RNG to stealth updates, which as you pointed out, does not happen to fully released models as they are kept frozen (confirmed to me by a dev)

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The beta model (I.e. 4.5 currently) does have stealth updates applied time to time

naive ibex
patent sand
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I think they stealth-updated 4.5 with Remix release, a few people were complaining about it functioning notably differently

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or maybe Remix did something. idk man. I'm stuck on free version, just speculating

hollow hare
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Usually, as I mentioned, typically the issue lays in the prompts. As in one of the points I linked to earlier, defining a specific subgenre and describing the vocals to what you want leads to better outputs as you narrow down the pattern pool

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Because the thing with AI is that they have large RNG (due to various learned patterns) which we cannot control in Suno due to a lack of seed controls

patent sand
polar spade
naive ibex
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That's the point. Make bata1, beta2, beta3 and then merge final model. It's like in Jan a whole website, thousands of people, were affected by "shimmer" from the first generation, in every single song. While in Dec 24 everything was great. At 1st April they broke personas. Etc. This is not right.

Regarding new generations, it's so obvious. As I said I opened previous and current and it's HUGE difference.** While I'm using the same exact style and same lyrics (regarding style).** If before almost all were really great, now all from 50 is garbage. Kind of interesting coinsidence 0/50....

And regarding that devs not reading people feedback, or someone from the company - rediculous. Kind of modern practice. I can in this case open my own "Suno community" channel and it will be the same. Most frustrating, that WE ARE CUSTOMERS, I'm bought full year max subscription as no-brainer, paid for one, and now someone change on the fly, no warning, no notices. Just silent drop. And to figures out we all need waste our time, burning paid credits, to understand is it broken, is it fixes.... Sick. That supposed to be not like that.

patent sand
naive ibex
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If I used from 10k credits, almost 2000 generations total in May, I can hear that someone broken now, after "remix update" few days ago. Like you are using the same tool over and over again and one day you just clearly see that something is wrong.

patent sand
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I do agree that they should post in #🚀┃updates or somewhere else if/when the model is updated. Better yet, a one-time pop-up when logging in

naive ibex
patent sand
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I'm just trying to help you get your generations back up to standard

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It sucks, yes, but you need to try adjusting the prompting if it's not working

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And Yixuan is correct, with v4.5 especially, it can be a genre issue. Which genre are you trying to make a song with?

buoyant loom
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Hey does anybody know why it says that i need to upgrade my account, it is saying that i am not a pro member. Just had 1900 credits left. Logged out, and in on another account and then back again, an i got “re-rolled” back to a free member with 50 credits. 🥴

patent sand
buoyant loom
naive ibex
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For sure CEO and other devs are not here. But I would "to make it right" and run a good company give them mandatory 15-30 minutes per day to read peoples feedback (and frustration). While we, you and me, and other customers are PAYING their salary, literally. They developing for us, we pay. It's now like free use closed dev club....... But that sick practice is common nowadays. Which is totally wrong.

polar spade
# naive ibex That's the point. Make bata1, beta2, beta3 and then merge final model. It's like...

You have a mod asking to help privately through your sending a DM. If there's no trust to "reveal" your work to them, its likely not going to be helpful for anyone else to offer help.

Thanks for acknowledging that changing style prompts might help but that you don't wish to test that route.

So that leaves nothing more to suggest.

It's good to vent, but stay on mission. Try to resolve the problem. Including modifying and adapting the best you can so you can get back to making the banger tunes you did before.

Good luck mate. I've seen you about in here many times, so I wish 🤞 everything improves soon.

hollow hare
# buoyant loom Tried with different browsers, laptops and smartphone

You have verified that you are logged into the same account? Verify by checking your profile to ensure it is the same one. (You could also verify your email through Manage Accounr but you know what you are logging as :P)

I hear sometimes weird things can happen if you accidentally used sign up rather than sign in.

If you confirmed that your account is indeed being linked to a brand new profile, verify with your browser (using incognito) and see if that also logs into the wrong account.

If it is the same account, contact billing (type /billing for details)

Otherwise, if it is a jew account being linked, After gathering that data, DM Mike B (the Community Manager, see #💬┃general-chat message) to ask where would be the appropriate place to send that info.

naive ibex
# polar spade You have a mod asking to help privately through your sending a DM. If there's n...

I just wanna bring problem up, so devs know that they are messed up. And about robo-voice there were some more people here, not only me. If system is broken, but working well before it is nothing to help with. System (model) should be fixed. It's like you have some electronic burned, and "support" asking you, "did you plug it to the outlet?" and "did you try to turn on power button", or "try to reboot" on obvously fried system.

Appritiate that all trying to help. But problem is not in the customer...

patent sand
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naive ibex
# polar spade You have a mod asking to help privately through your sending a DM. If there's n...

But now imagine. I used all 10k credits before "impovement" dropped few days ago. But someone doesn't. For example someone spread equally credits over the month, and left over 5k credits. After "forced auto update" it is waste, people **are loosing real money. ** If they make unlimited credits for "beta testing" and changing something on the fly and charge nothing, it's could be ok'ish, but we are paying for that..... And especially we invested our time. With images you can see it at once, but with music you need spend your life time to check it, you can not say is it good or not by waveform or spectrogram...

naive ibex
patent sand
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No dude, I meant the feedback form they linked in the channel

naive ibex
# patent sand No dude, I meant the feedback form they linked in the channel

Got it. but...."For feedback on Suno's website or anything Suno related in general: you can fill out this form https://suno.com/feedback " is redirecting to main page.....

Mostly "surprised" by why nobody there do not want to make it right. Hire someone who will communicate, or if devs not read ing here - someone who will be a bridge between customers and developers. I really love Suno, it (was) fun, but this is killing me. Compare to MidJourney - open office hours, sharing upcoming updates plans, live support, surveys all the time - listening to customers....

In addition, ironically, while I used all credits in the first half of the month, I wanted to top over with paid extra credit, but postpone few days, and then "update" dropped. So, by that "on thy fly change mess" they are loosing money, besides customer's trust...

And the global point, I just want that Suno should be a good and succesful company. With happy customers....

hollow hare
whole flower
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Is there a way to separate stems in version 4.5? I'm looking to remove vocals. I see in the notes for V1 there was a stem separation option. Any word on getting this for v4.5?

half dragon
naive ibex
# hollow hare When someone links a Discord post, you need to click on the chat bubble for the ...

Ok, thanks! Again, "but"...

In the form they ask "How would you rate your overall experience with V4.5?" and how to reply to it?
In the beginning of May it was so amazing that I used all 10k credits, it was great if catch the tune with styles, near perfect, the best generations I had ever..... and now (end of May 2025) it is a garbage.
(to be fair, tried 2 more different personas, the same, "robots singing" not extremely bad, but way worse and not at production level, as before). So what to tell in feedback, what "version" could be considered as "4.5" if they chaging on the fly........

If they ask "Do you like initial 4.5 version" and "Do you like it after 4.5 end of May update", sure, would be fair.... and now if I leave 5 stars it will be not true, and if I leave 0 start it will be as well not true, as any inbetween....

patent sand
half dragon
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It doesn't seem he wanted to fill any form for the feedback.. and just wanted to rant!

patent sand
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No it's a misleading form. In the feedback channel it says "Single-Question", and the survey format only shows one question per page

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There are actually seven questions

half dragon
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so we need a feedback form for the feedback form 😀

patent sand
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Thus creating a feedback loop

lean cargo
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Does anyone still have the bug on the Android app that you can't make a purchase/subscription so an endless loading screen?

patent sand
lean cargo
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I recently updated to 1.9.4 but the infinite loading screen remains

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This happens when I try to purchase a subscription

patent sand
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No idea because I can't sub for a different reason right now, and I don't use mobile app. But a temporary workaround would be to sub on PC if you can, or a mobile browser

naive ibex
# half dragon It doesn't seem he wanted to fill any form for the feedback.. and just wanted to...

So tell me buddy, how to fill feedback is they asked about "4,5" if in the beginning of the month it was one 4.5, now it is another "4.5", and tomorrow it could be another "4.5" anytime, by random overwriting drops........ What "4,5" is question about?..... Even sick that customer is not right, and now blame on me. World is upside down. Twisted mindsets.....

Before was "v4 feedback" channel where you can leave feedback and complaints in a form of tickets. I would even not write in a general thread here. Now someone asking in that form like "Do you like the sky?" while "clouds" changing evey hours.... C'mon

lean cargo
patent sand
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I'm getting déjà vu from this somehow

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You've emailed support and bug reported?

unique stone
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Presumably you can fill the feedback form in more than once and they'll probably see the date you filled it in so know when the feedback was relevant.

lean cargo
sleek stump
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4.5 is still the same 4.5 it was, and is still in beta. The changes were to the web UI and tools, not the model.

lean cargo
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Should I email support about this?

patent sand
naive ibex
sleek stump
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3+ weeks at this point.

patent sand
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Longer if they misinterpret your query

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@lean cargo be extremely specific in the email. Include screenshots

sleek stump
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More info is better

patent sand
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Trust me I learned the hard way lol

naive ibex
# unique stone The v4 feedback section was a mess. I don't know how useful it was for gathering...

regading "rant" ...BTW especially ironic, that everything I just want is to make things working well, make it right, as supposed to be, like before. Not just for me, for everyone. I'm hope nobody will arguing that a whole Jan extreme shimmer in every single song was right, sitewide, no refund, just waste of time, or in April my young female persona started tend to sing like a old men.

And whole first half of May I didn't drop a line, it's not a rant, I would prefer to top up my credits with extra money** and continue to create songs**, instead of trying to knock to a closed door.... but someone brokes fun.

unique stone
# naive ibex regading "rant" ...BTW especially ironic, that everything I just want is to make...

I mean in general the v4 feedback section was just where any rants and complaints about anything to do with Suno got posted. From what I remember, there were often threads complaining about v3.5, billing issues, other account-related issues, suggestions for new features, and the occasional thread where someone was just trying to promote their music. The complaint threads were mostly users agreeing with each other about how bad something was, the occasional disagreement or lengthy discussion which didn't really lead anywhere... It just seemed a mess to me whenever I looked in there.

They clearly do want feedback hence why the form exists. Probably best to fill it in when you feel something is noticeably worse or noticeably better so that they know when it's bad and when it's good.

sleek stump
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Sad thing here is that the Technical discussion channel has become the one size fits all complaint and tech support request channel...

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The purpose of this channel is, and I will quote Woodhouse from a couple days ago...
Woodhouse APP — 5/22/2025 9:12 PM This channel was meant to be discussion about techniques and technical details. Many people assumed it means tech support/help after the end of Chirp but that is not the case

half dragon
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Some just didn't get it. Jsut on and on ...

sleek stump
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We try hard to help people but ultimately we cant help quite a few.

naive ibex
sleek stump
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whole crescent
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  1. I upload my own original song, created in another Premier Plan account. "VOCALS DETECTED". Not allowed.
  2. I upload a 7-second clip of my own original song, created in my current Premier Plan account. "VOCALS DETECTED". Not allowed.
  3. I sing into a microphone in silence to create a Persona with my own voice. "VOCALS DETECTED". Not allowed. What is happening? Can you explain?
unique stone
whole crescent
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I can't create a Persona

unique stone
whole crescent
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And how do you create a Persona if you can't upload any voice?

unique stone
sleek stump
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just FYI, Persona are not meant to be Vocal presets.

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Persona are influencers, that carry some weight, but not 100%

whole crescent
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Well, I just sent a screenshot that I can't create a persona with my voice?

sleek stump
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If you read the note on the audio file listing you will see that...

whole crescent
unique stone
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Suno is not able to tell that what you are uploading is a song that you had previously downloaded.

sleek stump
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(Personas from audio uploads are disabled at this time)
That is for all audio uploads.

whole crescent
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So, if you want to create a song with a specific melody, you can only hum it mmmmmmm, but under no circumstances should you sing it?

unique stone
paper dagger
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Hi all, i have run into an issue when trying to create a persona. I run into this message even when removing all names in the description

crude jetty
paper dagger
crude jetty
paper dagger
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Interesting, i assumed writing the persona name in the name part would be valid. This was my description : A Korean solo artist blending emotional K R&B, cinematic ballads, and soft pop influences. The voice is delicate, expressive, and poetic, delivering heartfelt stories in both Korean and English. Each song explores themes of love, healing, and quiet reflection through gentle melodies and honest lyrics. The music is built on soft piano, warm strings, ambient textures, and subtle harmonies, creating a soothing and intimate sound. Every track feels like a quiet moment captured in time, made for late nights, soft light, and still hearts.

crude jetty
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those names are public, thus they can't use actual artist names

paper dagger
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fair enough, thanks i will try for something more generic/niche

hollow lava
# naive ibex Ok, thanks! Again, "but"... In the form they ask *"How would you rate your ove...

My favorite being "How would you rate v4.5 compared to V4" 🤦🏼‍♀️ Suno team, V4 is an unusable mess, and v4.5 is barely better, with disagreable background noise, female vocalists going in high pitch so high they could break glass with every track. I'm not comparing these 2 unusable mess with one another... I'm comparing them with the last usable and stable version you released, which is V3.5

sleek stump
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Opinions what they are... I have found genre strengths in 3.5, 4 and 4.5.. they all do certain genre better than the others. Learning these differences has been costly though.

knotty kite
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hey 👉👈😕what if a user has a song on page 200 of Songs Library and doesn’t know what Workgroups it is in?

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it might be 3 hrs to find out 😩

polar spade
plucky leaf
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Anybody on the team around?

hollow hare
# plucky leaf Anybody on the team around?

They don't really monitor here, this is primarily a community-ran server.
Most of the people with the Team tag are developers and they typically monitor the suggestions and bugs report channels.

If there is something we can help you with, let us know your question.

For financial-related issues, contact billing (type /billing for details). Response time is ~2 business days.

For non-financial support that only the Suno can help you with (and none of us), please contact support (type /support for details). They currently have a huge backlog and response time is approx. 3~4 weeks from what I last heard by people here

plucky leaf
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Whuff. 3-4 weeks, dang.

hollow hare
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They have a lot of users and not many support staff unfortunately

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sleek stump
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I've heard songs like this before.. Suno is literally just singing phonetics influenced by its training. Have had it happen in instrumentals I have worked on.

gaunt charm
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Please help me, for couple of days i cant download any generated song, i am a paid user of suno ai. when i click download, it shows the download fail. i have no block in firewall. i changed browser, also tried incognito. but nothin solved. also i removed any chrome extension. but nothign working. plz help me. now even my generated song, it doesnot play now. i click on to play, but nothing happen. it stucked there.

crude jetty
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tried another browser?

hollow hare
gaunt charm
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devout flower
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Hey guys today I learned replacing sections raises the volume quite a bit compared to the rest of the song?

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Has anyone else noticed this?

spring haven
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Can you make a playlist public but not publish the individual songs in the playlist?

gilded walrus
final dragon
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Anyone found using a persona has generated a song too much like the original. I don't mean the old bug where it actually was the original. In this case the intor to the song instrumentally is exactly the same and it seems to continue through the song. Different words but almost same instrumentally. Did it to a couple of different songs. Although I like the vibe (which is why I made hte persona) there is such a thing as being too similar

daring bramble
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Hey guys. Seeking advice on the best prompts to confuse a live performance song. Can anyone recommend any that actually work? I've tried a few and still experimenting, such as crowd reactions but still have yet to find the perfect combination. Please @ me with any suggestions. ✌️

upper idol
daring bramble
torn spoke
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When you finally got that good crop and can extend freely

torn spoke
woeful sand
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Hey, I have tried to reach the support over email and I didn't get any resonse for ages now

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@dim glacier

woeful sand
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that's seriously sick of you guys, you litterlirly being arrogant because you know you are the only one in the market

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and every time I stumble with the same issue with one company few days later another esteemed company rise out of now where

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so I hope it will be the case with you

outer briar
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I paid my money for my subscription and they won't give me the amount of the credits that I am due. They gave me 40. Last time I checked $10 is supposed to give me considerably more than that. Why is it that they have such issues on getting back to someone within a given time.. They have had 10 days.

woeful sand
outer briar
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I concur

woeful sand
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this is the most disgusting thing you would ever come across

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im quite confident they will be replaced very sooon

outer briar
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Well not the most disgusting. I would say scamazon crime would be seeing as how they took over a month to refund my money And then because they didn't like my attitude about it they called the cops on me and said I threatened them and I got arrested and now I'm out on bond. Apparently my freedom of speech is being breached by Filipinos and that's completely acceptable

woeful sand
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we can call it all the dirty names in the world, and still won't be enough

worldly mason
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Hey Suno team — what’s going on?
I’ve been paying for Suno for months, and I still can’t use voice cloning with my own voice. It says it’s “only for subscribers” — but I AM a subscriber! This feature is disabled for me and it’s super frustrating.

Also, Suno 4.5 has terrible voice quality. Even when I ask for a male voice, it gives me a female one every single time. It's honestly embarrassing that a paid product is performing like this.

And there’s no proper way to contact support? Come on. Please fix this ASAP.

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Does anyone know of a tool that works better than Suno? Even if it's paid.
I'm already paying for Suno and just losing my money… it's been a terrible experience.

edgy dirge
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Hey, when I use my persona, the beat or some elements from the original song, where I created the persona always are included in the new songs. Example (Beat drop) - Ohhhh ohhhh

Ohhhh ohh is in every new song I create with my persona. It’s kind of annoying

unique stone
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outer briar
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Are you from technical support

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Is there a way to actually get them to respond to me or are they just lackluster and don't know how to serve their customers

unique stone
polar spade
outer briar
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I shouldn't have to jump through all these hoops to get a response from them. I signed up for the $10 plan I was charged $10 and I got 40 credits because they don't know how to give somebody the proper allotment of what they pay for.

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Is Donna a better platform?

unique stone
# outer briar Is Donna a better platform?

Unsure if this is still the case but at least as of a few months ago, Donna was basically using Suno to generate songs (without permission to do so.) They may have switched to scalping off of another service since then.

polar spade
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/billing

flint havenBOT
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rigid solar
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Hi! I'm a paying user and I noticed that V4.5 beta was working really well in the early days, but now it's generating very poor songs - very distorted melody lines, the sound is cheesy, and the mix is completely off sometimes.

I can't believe how well it generated in the beginning and now it's the complete opposite. There's hardly any difference between 4.0 and 4.5.

I wasted several credits on completely unusable songs. What's going on?

Thanks!

outer briar
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Thank you woodhouse

polar spade
# rigid solar Hi! I'm a paying user and I noticed that V4.5 beta was working really well in th...

Its kind of a bottom line to say Suno will always be random if its to maintain a generative quality. So its understood to get a few campy tunes along with some great ones. That said, if even when you change up to test a few off-the-path prompts and ALL results still seem to have quickly turned from the initial impression, then its hard to say what's going on.

So far, 4.5 is rolling along for me in my specific genres of both my folks, rock, pop, house, storyteller, styles. But I also test for metal and whatever avante guard style a user might throw at me. The only difference is that I have lots of 4.0 personas , so last month I was making songs with some authentic sound vocals.

Without some personas under my belt for 4.5, I'll naturally assume I'm at lease getting that cheesy vocal. As for the mix and instrumentation, the distorted melody lines and such, I've only gotten that when trying to remaster an older 3.5 or 4.0 song, which isn't always compatible and gives results similar to what you mentioned. That would apply to trying to remix anyone else's songs that aren't initially original 4.5 s.

I need also be reminded sometimes that some people love the cheesy songs and can't get enough of them. 😄

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still sand
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I paid for the $8 plan but I was charged for the $98 plan I've sent an email to Suno and they did respond but absolutely nothing was done would appreciate it if you could help

wheat iron
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can you help me why does it keep saying 0 clips added to playlist on suno when I'm adding someone else's song

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Hello? anybody?

half dragon
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half dragon
# wheat iron No there are 0 songs on there

You're on Chrome? would it be a cache issue, I wonder.
I just went to the homepage and added one song and it works for me so it must be something on local browser...
Would it work if you switched browser to test it?

wheat iron
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But there's also another side to this, When I'm trying to add my own songs, it works

half dragon
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can you link me the song that you added?

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see if I can try

wheat iron
half dragon
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wheat iron
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Why am I always getting problems, first I can't create anymore songs and I've contacted Suno about it and now I can't add other people's songs to playlists

half dragon
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it might have been browser related?

wheat iron
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I'm using Google

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Nothings wrong with Google

polar spade
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@still sand That's probably a common error we make on all apps that have monthly or yearly plans. Its everywhere like that these days. So speaking with billing is the only means of getting that properly adjusted. The monthly plan is $10 by the way. The $8 a month, as you would see, notes that that is billed out for an annual subscription.

There is an auto-response just to say you're in queue, and then we wait for a real person to contact us. Having initially given as much details in the first email hopefully will help.

Here is the information regarding question about billing.

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half dragon
wheat iron
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I tried another song and didn't wotk

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Either

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It's suddenly decided to work! I can add other people's songs to playlists now!

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Goodbye! Thanks for helping

polar spade
half dragon
polar spade
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If no one else will.... Thanks, VRKing for all the help in the room. 💙

half dragon
polar spade
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Thought for the day: In school, the teacher grades you on showing your work. In real life, NEVER show your work. If it took 10 credits or 10,000, to get that banger song, flash it like it was nothing to it and say no more.

fiery basin
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The prompt for fading out is [Fade Out] right? And if you put [End Song] It should end song right? I've been rerolling more than 20 times for this and suno refuses to give a fade out from same quality of the song, it wears the songs volume down by a lot and worses the quality of the song, also it generates me repeated lyrics from before without fade out. Or just a ai vocal in the end yabering. what am I doing wrong? also in extended styles I put down [Extend 5 seconds max]

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Not I've this issue both with Replacement and extend

half dragon
sleek stump
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I use [Fade] usually and it usually works

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One caveat... certain genre/styles refuse to fade.

fiery basin
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I will try that Ginger thanks! and fade out manually wont help me since it ends on a very awk spot

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Making a Jpop-rock pirate themed song Idk

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it did fade out the song and starts playing a new melody and sings again weird

misty laurel
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@fiery basin [end] [Fade Out] has worked for every one of my tracks I have not had one issue whatsoever using it make sure you do not have a space between the last lyrics ontop of the text [end] you need a space between last text at the end of lyrics

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and hello @sleek stump good morning

nocturne dawn
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Hi, I am looking for a prompt to make sure that the song that I create can be looped. Does anyone has any idea?

frosty minnow
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quick question for anyone that may know: is there a way to use my own voice instead of the ai ones? they're pretty solid but id like to make some songs...more personal

keen fog
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For 3.5 and v4, I never had issues getting the model to understand vocalized sound effect ad-libs written into the lyrics. Think trap music "brrt" and bap!-bap!, I have a ton of them and they all worked. Seems v4.5 does not understand those at all anymore or it needs a different way of formatting them within the lyrics? Anybody figure it out yet?

sleek stump
restive schooner
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Can we have SATB available please, it’s a banned word but shouldn’t be.

sleek stump
polar spade
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I'm seeing fade now as just a line with no indication of the graduation. And as you say, sometimes I don't hear a fade, as in maybe fading over 30 seconds or so. I liked the visual slider box before, but the single line is fine -- does the same thing -- but doesn't show the graduation, so its listen, move, listen, move ,listen ,move, until it sounds right. The shaded graduation is preferable.

Everyone else see the same -- before I post in suggestions?

frosty minnow
sleek stump
winter hinge
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Hey All, any tips on how to make SUNO to do a poem, and keep speaking through the poem and not start singing at some parts? background music is fine, but I want to have it speak a poem with background music...

unborn star
winter hinge
unborn star
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and it doesn't work?

winter hinge
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it kind of does, but it keeps changing to singing in the middle, or later

unborn star
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I don't know your structure song aka [Verse etc.]

winter hinge
sleek stump
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It is VERY difficult to get Suno to "speak" lines, and in my experience its even harder to get spoken lines with no instrumentation behind it...

unborn star
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ok

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Can you send me the style description?

winter hinge
# unborn star Can you send me the style description?

A poignant spoken word poem by a poetic Male voice unfolds over delicate, flowing piano in the sentimental romantic style associated with Richard Clayderman-style. Gentle arpeggios and lush chord progressions form a soft, melodic foundation, building subtly in dynamics for emphasis and emotional peaks.

unborn star
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Ok, I will help you

sleek stump
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Genre styles have a huge influence on if you can get spoken lyrics, you might want to experiment with genre styles that traditionally have spoken lines.

unborn star
barren phoenix
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Is there a way to turn off the remix feature? It is VERY inconvenient having to click every song I create to turn this off. I don't want any of my music public.

worn thistle
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hello, have someone of you "style description" for clear vocals?
I still can't figure it out. or my vocals are bad because I used up all my "monthly credits" and am now using free credits?

patent sand
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Free credits and paid credits are all the same

hard beacon
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i think that's an actual suno output problem 🙂

patent sand
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There is no difference in free vs paid credits

worn thistle
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ok, so, what is wrong, V4,5 is broken as f**k on my browser

hard beacon
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the page itself ?

worn thistle
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and it pisses me off a lot, i don't know what to do

worn thistle
hard beacon
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well.. that's a problem everbody has at this time 😉

patent sand
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Some others have had vocal issues with 4.5 since remix released

worn thistle
hard beacon
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yapp.. me 😄

barren phoenix
patent sand
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Agreed

unborn star
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btw need to know

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if you need to write [Spoken Words] or [Spoken Word]?

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is there any difference?

hard beacon
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test it.. i would say "no"

patent sand
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I usually say [talking] or something similar

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As long as the AI gets the idea

sleek stump
hard beacon
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... or maybe switch the vocal modell from classic to ReMi ??

patent sand
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Um no, those are lyrics models

hard beacon
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and don't forget.. there is "suno roulette".. maybe the output is good.. or it's bad 😉

worn thistle
sleek stump
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There is a huge learning curve to getting 4.5 to do what you want, I have spent 3000 credits learning how to wrestle with it, and I am still just scratching teh surface of control.

patent sand
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And I think I've done more reading on how to use 4.5 while waiting for support to fix my sub, than I have for my thesis

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It's crazy how much you have to learn for this model but also really cool

hollow hare
hard beacon
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the song structure and possibilities are awesome.. but the sound quality output is not that good at the moment.. so.. hold the line and chill your nuggets 😄

patent sand
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Just add Dolby somethingorother at the beginning. Will fix, trust

worn thistle
hollow hare
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Can you show me what you did? You can DM me the link and I will try a few things on my side

worn thistle
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I burn out something about 7K credits on V4.5 and still broken, and still you know.

worn thistle
hollow hare
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That's fine, just want to improve the voice right?

worn thistle
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so, if you don't mind 😄

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yes please, DM is on the way

unborn star
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I feel like depending on the used styles if the song gets good or not

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But what I really like is the option to fuse styles and morph something into another.

worthy lava
wheat iron
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@half dragon I need help again, I can't add any songs to playlists again!

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Ik

sleek stump
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Might want to hit F12 and see what errors are happening in your browser

wheat iron
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Yeah then it stopped working

half dragon
# wheat iron Yeah then it stopped working

I still think the display or refresh cache is causing issue.
I think we have tried and concluded that it sounds like it's the only reason to cause this inconsistency.
Maybe try again later and it would have resolved itself.

worthy lava
sleek stump
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Maybe these belong in Workflows?

half dragon
# worthy lava

Sharing is good but now it's starting to feel like spamming as you're repeating the same post everywhere already...

sleek stump
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Ya, these are def supposed to be in Workflows

half dragon
worthy lava
half dragon
sleek stump
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Workflows has a different format more suited to things like this

worthy lava
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Good point, thank you. I'll post it in this section too 🙂

naive ibex
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Regarding "broken vocals" from the 4.5 remix "update", yesterday evening I got.... GOOD success rate from 4.5, I assume might they again changed (FIXED) something under the hood silently. What I don't like is that everything going on without communication, hiddenly. After the remix update it was 0/30 good songs, yesterday it was 8/10 good. (so I do not think that it coincidence, or extreme bad luck with 0/30 bad in a row)

And for some who tell that v4 is bad, I disagree, at least in whole March it was ideal (in April they broke it again, by overwriting, but duct-taped later). A assume very depends on genre.

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Question - can I add in lyrics /* */ comments section that will be totally ignored, like note just for myself?

unique stone
pure wolf
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I'm struggling to get a duet kind of thing going on.

I have a Female vocal going, then it turns to a man's voice. (Way I wanted it to.) BUT then the man takes over the Female vocals and the female takes the vocal.

polar spade
polar spade
sleek stump
# naive ibex ---- Question - can I add in lyrics /* */ comments section that will be totally ...

Suno tends to use anything in the Lyrics section as an operator, [Squared] brackets are the main ones, so anything in them will be attempted to be used to guide how the music or vocals render. However, if theres too much in a bracket, or if Suno doesnt know what to do with what it sees, it may either ignore it, or try to halucinate what it thinks the genre/style calls for. Best to just add your notes afterward when editing the song details and keep any notes out of rendering operations.

polar spade
pulsar obsidian
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How is video linked the song

half dragon
pulsar obsidian
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I see several dings with simple animation how's it made or is the feature not available in android

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*songs

half dragon
runic valley
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Any tips for quality degradation of songs created in Suno? I have some cool songs but I can’t fix the poorer quality at the end of the song

eternal pumice
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How to turn it off by default?

half dragon
# eternal pumice How to turn it off by default?

To me, the initial opt-out should set the global setings by default... and they should have this as configurable setting at global level.. to be applied on all new creations.

But for now, it's a manual process at the time:

  • songs to be published to public
  • private songs to be shared with a link.

Before this remix update, all songs are already by default "extendable" by anyone anyway.

sleek stump
# eternal pumice How to turn it off by default?

Keep in mind that Remix is only something you need to worry about for your PUBLIC songs. Any private song that is not made public can not be remixed any anyone unless you share a link to that song. You do NOT need to set every private track to not allowed.

eternal pumice
sleek stump
ripe siren
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hey guys i accidently paid for the full year of the pro subscription ! wondering if i can convert it to monthly and get a refund?

tawny obsidian
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Mine just disappeared

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unique stone
tawny obsidian
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On the home page is shows other people's songs and recommendations, not my songs

unique stone
tawny obsidian
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Yes I see them

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The cover of that song is there, but the song has completely changed in a couple of hours

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I can see it's that one as I listened to it 20 times

unique stone
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Ok not sure what has happened then. Can you post a link to this song and I'll forward it on to see if there's anything that can be figured out about it?

Also try extending it then doing "get whole song" on the new part, as that should use the original song data to extend from (in case this is different to the MP3 it might help.)

tawny obsidian
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Maybe it's a bug like this: the song is private, but actually the bug lets someone else remix it and you get your original replaced with that remix

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I'll try that extension thing

unique stone
tawny obsidian
modern wraith
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I can't purchase suno

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8times payment unsucsessful

modern wraith
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my card is virtual debit card, I had pay with same card before, why I can't pay right now?

naive ibex
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Question, not exclusevly to Suno, but related - do someone know "auto dj" or "AI dj" programs (better free, github etc) For example I generated 10 instrumental tracks, is there a way to combine all in one automatically (and "dj"ish smooth)?

I found some, but all not working

modern wraith
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your service is pretty slow -_-

naive ibex
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buddy, regarding payments, if you waiting here for official answear - forget about it. Write to billing@ email (and today is federal holiday anyway)

crude jetty
alpine perch
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@unique stone for some reason my notifications are not showing who likes my songs for some reason

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Is anyone having the same problem of notifications aren't showing who likes your songs and you just see random likes appear

crude jetty
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it shows on my phone, and it's in notifications, so if you can't find it, that's on you

quasi hawk
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When attempting to create, I receive a notification instructing me to "contact support assistant."

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Has anyone encountered the same situation as me?

sleek stump
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First time I've seen that in here.. all you can do is contact Support... beware theres a long backlog, 3+ weeks currently.

half dragon
arctic copper
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Hello
I have a hard time making music that keeps the original melody and lyrics (all songs are written by me and some songs have been released before, all copyrights belong to me). The problem is that the AI ​​remade it all, even though I have the details I want, such as a woman singing in the first part, a man singing in the second part, singing together in harmony in the hook, etc. (remix style), even though I sang it live or sent the original music file to SUNO to process.
What did I do wrong? Or is there something wrong? Has anyone encountered this problem?
Best,

quasi hawk
half dragon
# arctic copper Hello I have a hard time making music that keeps the original melody and lyrics ...

I think your expectation is high.
So you uploaded your song, I assume with vocals as you specified... then you probably did a Cover on it? or Extend?
Cover would retain the melody better than Extend, but as far as vocal, specifically duet style like you wanted would be a challenge to generate.
It's possible but it'd take a lot of credits and patience to achieve what you wanted; sometimes one might have to use Replace tool to replace the unwanted voice.
It's not going to be a easy one click solution and making duet requires a special process and prepare to spend many credits 🙂

sleek stump
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IMHO, Suno isnt the tool for his goal

half dragon
daring lava
fierce drift
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hey guys does any 1 know who songs that belong to public domain like Bingo childrens song or wheels on the bus , the website says that its under copyright?
[10:18 PM]
is there any mods on here ?

arctic copper
sleek stump
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Public domain songs fall into this policy.

fierce drift
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Hmmm but it’s public domain isn’t it ? So should I just download online from somewhere if I want to use it ?

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Because it’s technically copyright free it’s public domain

sleek stump
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If your goal is to use it in Suno or recreate it in Suno, that is not allowed

pulsar obsidian
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If make a song during basic plan using lyrics I made separately can I use that lyrics to make monetizable song during pro plan

sleek stump
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Yes, you can make a new gen of the song lyrics and you would own it. Remastering or editing of the original free user track you will not, that is owned by Suno.

pulsar obsidian
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One more question, is there anyway to use the free basic plan song in social media I don't need monetization just sharing

sleek stump
pulsar obsidian
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@sleek stump Thanks

prime aspen
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I'm probably the 150th person asking this, but is there any relevant answer because I get an error message when creating the persona:
“An error occurred while creating the persona”
I've gone through a lot of discussions and chats where I see people having this problem, but I can't find an answer to what causes this problem or how to fix it.
And yes, I've tried changing the persona name, image, description and the song I want to create the persona from doesn't have a persona and yes, it has vocals.
Does anyone have an explanation?
Thanks for any answer.

sleek stump
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You are trying to create a Persona from a Suno generated track? Is that track based off uploaded audio?

prime aspen
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No, it's from the song SUNo, without the persona.

sleek stump
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So its a track that Suno generated?

prime aspen
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yes

sleek stump
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How long is tha track?

prime aspen
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max. 4:00

sleek stump
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You might try cropping it to about a minute of the essence of teh voice and style, try that

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Persona based on 4 minute tracks leave nothing for a new track to work with

prime aspen
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thanks, I'll try it.

astral osprey
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does anyone have issue where sharing a song in disc causes the embed to have a length of 0 and not preview

fallow skiff
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Hello, I'm a new Suno user. I can't find a clear answer in Suno's online help on the following case. I have started making songs in free mode. And I really like some of them, regardless of the quality of version 3.5. I have decided to pay and when I update the songs to v 4 or v4.5 I don't know if those new updated songs would already be for commercial use for me. I don't read anything clear in Suno's help about the ownership of these songs,

sleek stump
sleek stump
fallow skiff
sleek stump
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I suggest making a new generation with the same lyrics under a paid account, then make a persona from that. Anything you do with a track owned by Suno makes it still owned by Suno.

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That is my understanding

fallow skiff
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if i do a persona from a free song then can i make a new song ?

sleek stump
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A persona will not give you the same song as the one its based on, normally. But yes, you can use a persona to make a song you own under a paid account

astral osprey
fallow skiff
sleek stump
fallow skiff
sleek stump
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If you are subscribed, I believe it would be, yes

astral hatch
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Hello! I like your service, that's why any of your mistakes are perceived acutely. I see how some aspects of what you do can be improved and it will give results. How many people need videos with floating text, and how many need presentable videos with a good cover? Are there many videos with songs, but there are also videos with just music. It is interesting in a video when something changes for the eye, but that something can also be just the volume level and the sound histogram, the timing of what is left and the cover that takes up 80% of the video format area and not 25% as it is now. Make management of what the user will generate as a video and your videos will be effective for users and more presentable for you. After all, every good video presents Suno from the good side, and every gray and mediocre one from the bad side. Just think about it!

fallow skiff
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so is crystal clear at least this song it must be mine . don´t you think so? but haw i know for sure?

sleek stump
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From what we understand, that song that popped that popup and only that song will be transfered to your ownership,

fallow skiff
sleek stump
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Suno will have a record of the songs ownership, so far there has been no issues with tracks switched over from that popup that I am aware of

fallow skiff
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thank you very much for your time. I summarize the case if i like it the new song after make a persona from the free song, and use it to influence new songs. the new songs are mine.

fallow skiff
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i wanna be extra sure about that. i dont wanna have any future problems

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it is possible an official document about this conversation?

sleek stump
half dragon
sleek stump
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I did link you the FAQ here for rights and ownership, I suggest you review those.

fallow skiff
half dragon
signal folio
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Hello, I am new at Suno, and I have a problem with using Replace Section tool. I have been trying to fix a tiny section of a song that sounds a bit glitchy. And I chose that section of the song and attempted to generate a smoother version of that section, but it ends up creating like 2 minutes and 4 seconds of some hallucinated snippet instead of another smoother tiny section of the song. It happened more than 20 times in a row and I don't know how to fix it. Is there something I am doing wrong? Thank you!

half dragon
signal folio
half dragon
signal folio
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It seems like I have keep duration on and manual lyrics replacement unchecked, and that whole more than 2 minutes snippet has been happening

half dragon
signal folio
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Like all the way 3 seconds to 15 seconds. I tried out so many times using different timeframe to see any of them give different result and they all returned really long snippets

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I feel frustrated because this was probably going to be my last editing before I had a fully polished song D:

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And rip my credits

half dragon
signal folio
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I see. I wonder if there is a simpler way to just manually edit this

half dragon
signal folio
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because the real problem is like one word that sounds a bit wonky (and maybe one 'tick' sound for like 0.03 second somewhere in my song)

half dragon
signal folio
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I wonder if anyone else had a similar experience

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And it just returned another 2 minutes and 4 seconds of snippets lmao

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I found out that that is the maximum time for a snippet because of this :D

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But yeah, thanks for the help though!

half dragon
signal folio
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Then if I bring this up on that channel, would someone be able to help me?

half dragon
signal folio
half dragon
finite orchid
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Hello to all. I have a questions too. A week ago I was able to upload my demos with my vocals to the site. But since then I havent been able to upload anything. Is there a limit on this? Or a Or a space limit issue for the library that I am not considering?

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Also, what is best format for uploading? FLAC seems like a waste of time since SUNO is going to change everything anyway.

polar spade
finite orchid
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Also, is it possible to upload a demo, create a copy, and then separate the tracks? I really like the drum beats.

polar spade
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I wouldn't think why not. Honestly I don't think I've come across a time I was separating my own vocal as a track. I'll have to try for a test.

The separation will likely have some overbleeds, vocals into instruments, instrumental into vocal.

I guess one issue is the instrumental is as far as you get for tracking out separate instruments, that's not available. So, the Get Stems, is better for just adding new lyrics or a persona to only the instrumental track

finite orchid
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The library of sounds that SUNO has is amazing. And the quality and quickness of the conversions are incredible. I would like to have more control of the chamges, but not sure yet on how to accomplish that. One thing I thought of is downloading the simplest version of of the song and then adding the instrumentation that I want, and then re-uploading it again. Seems like there should be a better way.

tepid wedge
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To the team, I have four requests, ranging from minor to major as a user who's spent over $100 on Suno in the last year...

  1. A way to reverse sorting order so songs generate from old to new, top to bottom, that way new songs generate at the bottom instead of at the top.
  2. When a song does not have a title, IF you have auto-generated lyrics it will also generate a title. I would like that functionality to work for instrumentals too. It should always pick a random title for each pair of songs if no title is listed.
  3. Please allow us to write more words in the Auto lyrics to prompt with. Why only 200 characters? It's so limiting. I'd like to be able to actually write a good-sized descriptive prompt for the lyric engine, not a tiny little blurb.
  4. Not so minor: Please update the phone app! It's way out of date. Have you guys used it recently? It's missing a bunch of key desktop features, the prompts erase themselves after each gen, and it's very very clunky to use overall.
polar spade
polar spade
finite orchid
main cairn
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Does anyone know how to guide an instrumental song structurally? I want to do more than I seem to be able to in the style box. I tried putting metatags in an empty custom lyrics box, and I got the MOTHER of all AI halucinations and jibberish, multiple times, like this link:

https://suno.com/song/467d2ae6-8f6f-417c-b5ac-0b1eeaad8a4c
I saw multiple suggestions to do it that way online, but clearly you don't with 4.5, lol.

full field
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@wet minnow

clear mortar
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Hi all, I'm trying to follow the basic usage tutorial in the github page of bark but I'm having strange problems

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this is my code

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and this is the error I get

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I tried to add

torch.serialization.add_safe_globals(['numpy.core.multiarray.scalar'])

but then I get the error

AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'module'. Did you mean: 'mod'?

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can anyone lead me on how to solve this?

knotty stag
warm sail
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Hi
i have question
Why i can't use a "Cover" Option?
because i have "No" Sign when i try use
the rest "Extend", "Reuse" and "Speed" is still available

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also freezes on "Adjust speed, clip is generating"

hollow frost
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27 days of silence

cursive shadow
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Is there an issue with generating? The generation button is inactive.

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It is only happening on custom if I switch to basic the button becomes active again. This is frustrating.

hollow hare
cursive shadow
hollow hare
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Well, that or your credit appears as zero (or 4.x trial exhausted if you are on the free plan) but I assume you already factored that in

polar spade
warm sail
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But i waiting all of day

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Is on extension option because i cant click on the cover option

polar spade
polar spade
cursive shadow
tawny obsidian
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Hello, I was wondering if there is a way to improve the quality of the sound as it's not very crisp. Does the paid version offer a higher quality/larger file?

warm sail
polar spade
warm sail
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thats ok

polar spade
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Ill test to see if i can cover a 1.25x song. Hold on.

polar spade
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I'm trying to repeat the problem, but my Cover does work on every attempt. I'm not certain what is the specific issue.

Is the Cover choice also greyed out in your menu under RemixEdit/Cover?

warm sail
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I try on other browser

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nah on other browser is the same

polar spade
# warm sail Nope

And clicking specifically on that Cover still shows an inactive Cover tab. That's odd. Yes. I have no good suggestion but to troubleshoot with other things.

It does feel like the song may be an issue. Can you just run a new 1.25x or first try covering another song, to test? With the other parameters same, such as no new lyrics, no new prompts and so on.

warm sail
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Speed i can make without problem

polar spade
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I'm just suggesting trying to repeat the problem with another song.

unique stone
warm sail
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On free, but previous time makes cover without problem

polar spade
warm sail
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Nope, thats made a LONG time ago account

polar spade
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Let me double check with my Free account. Brb.

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No. Can't Cover songs with a free acount.

unique stone
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Unless it changed recently or they gave some free uses, Cover has always been a subscriber feature.

polar spade
warm sail
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but without warning?

polar spade
# warm sail but without warning?

Trials end. Yes, I suppose without warning other than we only have 100 credit to test a paid subscription tools. Then it just goes back to Basic tools , 3.5 ver only.

It doesn't take much to go through 100 credits.

vestal matrix
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I'm new to the platform so apologies if this is obvious but is there a way to generate music through an AI workflow such as "Make"?

half dragon
vestal matrix
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Ah gotcha okay. So no way of automating the process. I was reading about it and thought it was odd that there's an absence of docs.

polar spade
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I'm more an idiot than not, but I would suspect we would need access to the API to create an internal workflow situation. But occassionally and especially last year, a user would post at least having crated scripts or macros to simply make some processes faster.

vestal matrix
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Got it, thanks for the insight. I think the creator of Suno mentioned that the automation process de-personalizes their product which anti-contributes to what their vision is. I didn't know if that changed or if there was a shim/wrapper that would allow for an automated process.

polar spade
# vestal matrix Ah gotcha okay. So no way of automating the process. I was reading about it and ...

Last year there was a greater attempt to crack into AI programs in order to mass produce thousand of songs at one time. Of course it was attempted old school by that guy named Michael Smith, who is now in the courts.

So, I think Suno has their vision securely not in that direction. 🤔😉

Market wise, the slower one takes to create a song, the "longer" likely the subscription will be continued. So keeping a moderate return of a song to the investment of the users time and money means a better margin for Suno while still capturing the user to want to continue.

So, slower is better.

vestal matrix
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Yea that's probably a safe assumption 😂 and overall, their service really is top-notch and reasonable for the hobby/professional user. The need to manually create and edit the music takes away from the stigma of "AI removing the creative process". Can't blame Suno but at the same time... I can lol.

polar spade
vestal matrix
keen thicket
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Why do I have somewhere disabled option "Make Persona" with label "Subscribe to create a Persona" even tho I've got my Pro plan still active till 06.06? Anyone knows?

half dragon
keen thicket
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Yes, I've got still active Pro plan. but i didn't renew it - so it will cancel on Jun 6, 2025. Other than that, I can create 4.5 songs,still got my credits, I can make personas from some songs (not all,but some allows me it)

unique stone
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(the message displayed when doing that is wrong and should say something else)

keen thicket
broken viper
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please help me i bought Pro package but got 2500 free credits i cant use v4.5 only can use v3.5

polar spade
broken viper
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Whoever is the founder of Suno AI please help me. I have 2710 credits but can't use it in v4

polar spade
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/billing

flint havenBOT
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polar spade
broken viper
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My account has been deducted and in suno AI it shows credit points. but it is only for v3.5
When will it be available in v4.5? it has been 48 hours but it is still the same

polar spade
neat nexus
delicate oriole
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Hey can I get help with something? I'm trying to make it so two different people are singing different verses any way to make it so I can specify who sounds like who?

rugged otter
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@delicate oriole yea something like:

[Raspy Baritone (RB)] 
la di da
[Breathy Falsetto (BF)]
foo la la
[RB]
do re mi
[BF]
fa sol la si do
low laurel
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Hello all

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already asked the question but still struggling

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have a track with a disco style

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i would like to cover it with a piano voice only style all along the song. it does something at the beginning but then after some seconds always goes back the drummy version: any idea how to do that?

half dragon
drifting palm
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Ive recently gotten back into suno, and noticed a "generate video" button on the desktop site, but when I click it nothing actually happens.

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whats this button for?

half dragon
# drifting palm

Now you have to generate video first manually before it can be downloaded.

drifting palm
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gotcha, but it doesnt seem to work for some reason, ive let it sit for a while now. is it an issue on my end perhaps?

half dragon
drifting palm
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ah ok, ill just be more patient then lol

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thanks for the info

vague drum
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Hey, is there a way to get suno to remaster 20+ min tracks? Every time I try the remasters don't finish and disappear

half dragon
vague drum
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Alright, I will likely do that next chance I get

half dragon
woeful mirage
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Any Suno developers here? I would like to know if I can have access to the git repo of suno 4.5 like suno-bark? I would like to use a part of my code to generate audiobook interludes thanks

half dragon
vestal matrix
woeful mirage
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sad :(. I'm stuck with suno-bark 0.0.1a so :(((

vestal matrix
woeful mirage
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I tried to search also UDIO if there were in open source, same story. none.... I'm afraid it's going like microsoft adobe corpofashion

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they should offer a special access or buy once option for developers to integrate their API into dev project!. our users asked for a feature to create interlude for audiobooks but if we need to pay for our users so it won't work in all ways

vestal matrix
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They could have a partnership program

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Where you apply and they approve/track your usage, free of charge.

sleek stump
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IN the podacst interview Mike Shulman did a while back he puts it pretty cleary, there wont be any API any time soon.

woeful mirage
meager nacelle
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Why is the iOS app so limited? I can't seam to assess my playlists or workspaces.

half dragon
west wave
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Generation Tags

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How to get all the metadata tags for making songs in Suno?

vague drum
west wave
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Hey guys, does anyone know where to get the metadata tags for making songs in Suno?

sleek stump
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Google is your friend. GPT thinks it knows a bunch also... thinks...

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Theres no giant official list

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Additionally, meta tags are different between the models

west wave
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Thanks

peak swallow
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Why the heck am I being charged 10 credits to generate a few 10 seconds clips to fix errors in songs like cutting off the last line of lyrics, and then an additional 60 credits if I use one to correct this clearly subpar ability to follow basic prompts or not cut off songs at their end??? This feels deceptive.

hollow hare
# woeful mirage ah yeah? didn't see a link of it 😕

At this time Suno does not offer a public API, and the co-founders have confirmed there are no plans to release one.

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vestal matrix
hollow hare
# woeful mirage I tried to search also UDIO if there were in open source, same story. none.... I...

Most companies do not release their AI models these days. No incentive for them to do so as private companies.

If you are interested in open source generative music AI, I have six listed here: #💬┃general-chat message

One person told me that they found YuE to be too demanding (though note they have a link to another project which slimmed down the GPU cost) and they had preferred using ACE-Step. May be a steep learning curve if you are not used to ComfyUI's interface

sleek stump
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Ive been following ACE-Step, its not even as good as Suno v1 was

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IMO, ACE needs to stick with their DAW business.

hollow hare
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Makes sense if the source pool is very limited to (likely) only songs that have CC licenses so they do not get in trouble with the law. Mind you that is just conjecture on my part

hollow hare
# west wave Hey guys, does anyone know where to get the metadata tags for making songs in Su...

Most of these you learn from trial and error, as well as viewing songs thst displays their tag use (esp. prior to 4.0). There are some helpful #1252267444773326848 posts too like #1373231712292704298 message.

However, there are some external wikis that can provide you knowledge you were unaware of before:

Most of the time, it is just experimenting. Describe how you want the genre/voice without using names of specific people/bands

Ask a chat AI to describe it for you if you do not know how to state it (but be critical to the answer, AIs can lie to you with confidence)

half dragon
viral pond
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is the bug regarding massive use of mobile data fixed ?

vague drum
burnt gale
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hello. does anyone have any idea if Suno has a memory space problem? I mean, if I make hundreds of songs every month, should I erase the old ones or something?

sleek stump
# burnt gale hello. does anyone have any idea if Suno has a memory space problem? I mean, if ...

I dont remember seeing any space limitations in Suno's terms of service.. I dont know if they currently have a storage limit, many people have dozens or hundreds of pages of tracks they have generated. I would suggest though, for your own mental health, try and organize your songs and dont keep anything you dont really want,. and every week clean out your trashcan folder. I recently deleted 12 pages of gens I had trashed over the last couple weeks.

vague prairie
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The extend function it seems to be working different after the 4.5 update. It seems like the ai is struggling to add to the end of my song.

sleek stump
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4.5 requires more effort for extends.. you have to give it something to work with. If yo ujust hit the end of teh track and tell it to extend, you will get 2-6 seconds fails.

vague prairie
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Yeah that seems to be what it is doing

sleek stump
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It's different from 3.5 and v4. Those models would just go, 4.5 wont

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I have gotten 4 minute extensions in 4.5

vague prairie
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maybe I should try not cropping the original to the spot and use a larger tag section at the end of the original.

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That worked! Thanks Ginger!

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Another question. Has anyone had success in getting weather sounds in there songs like thunder cracks?

sleek stump
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They can happen at random, liek a lot of other SFX, but you cant direct them.

vague prairie
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I was kind of suspicious! 🙂 Not that I am complaining This is an amazing thing of beauty!

gilded galleon
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Has something changed with an update? I've been having a bugger of a time getting Suno to do solo's recently, and it used to mostly follow the prompts. Now... Not so much.

tawny iris
sleek stump
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None of the models have changed, the only changes recently was to the web tools and the restructuring into a Remix category.

naive ibex
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Question - Can I create (change) account in a classic way with username and password. When I set it up while ago it was "using ggl email". I don't want to tight it to email, want to able to login with user/password. Possible?

half dragon
naive ibex
opaque notch
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hah

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lol woood house slow poke

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emu-T need to level up. what your 18 now haha

deep sequoia
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Me pedia el plan pro para poder subir mi voz y hacer mis canciones y alfinal pague por la suscripcion y no puedo utilizar la opcion de subir mi voz para armar mis canciones! @untold briar @wet minnow @crystal prairie @sharp oar

hollow hare
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This is not a channel for showing your creations, please keep your outputs at #💬┃general-chat or show them off at #🐣┃suno-showcase

Unless you wanted to ask or discuss about techniques involved in that creation?

deep sequoia
hollow hare
toxic mountain
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Excuse me I have a question. How can I make my songs have 8 minutes duration?

hollow hare
# toxic mountain Excuse me I have a question. How can I make my songs have 8 minutes duration?

By having a lot of lyrics, interludes, and other similar techniques to try to make the song as long as possible. Using long duration genres (e.g. classical music) will tend to have longer-than-average outputs.

Doesn't always work as the AI does typically try to end when it thinks it reached a good end point, but you can always extend your project.
https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2409601

toxic mountain
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Is there any prompt I could use to make the song last the 8 minutes, I wrote duration of song: 8 minutes and only worked once

spiral tundra
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Hello everyone,

as of today, I can no longer log in to Suno via the browser. I log in using a Microsoft account. Since today, I've been getting the following error: is not allowed to access this application."
Can this problem be resolved? I'm subscribed to the Pro version.

naive ibex
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Question - is there a way to set speed of a song, like to more or less exact BPM? for example I want some slow like 80, and others fast like 140.... Do anyone have reliable preset style note for "speed"?

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To be clear, not like "exact 139 BPM", but more or less. Currently it's kind of random, like a rolling dice

shy galleon
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Hi all.. just a newbie question about creating Personas.. it seems that if vocal is detected in an audio uploaded, it can't be made into personas. Is this true, and if it is than how do you create your own personas?

gilded galleon
proven spade
proven spade
spiral tundra
proven spade
spiral tundra
spiral tundra
cold zenith
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How can you make a complete cover that respects 100% of the original music when the song is longer than 4 minutes and therefore needs to be extended after the initial cover generation?

gilded galleon
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@cold zenith I agree that it would be cool if we could reuse music from a song, just changing the words to correct lyrical issues. To my knowledge, this isn't a thing yet.

cold zenith
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I think the easiest should be COVER duration, is until the end of the music.

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because u might loose a lot of work u did on the original.

gilded galleon
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I've noticed that trying to crop or remove sections I don't like usually yields an error loading clip as well. While I appreciate the tools, they barely ever work. I wish they've make them more like Audition, in some ways--so we could just cut the thread and move the slider left or right to remove or cut a section. For now, though, it's a wonky system. I hope future update improve these things.

hollow hare
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Can you DM me the email you are trying to log in with and your Suno profile names? I will pass that message along to a team member @proven spade @spiral tundra
Please do not post it on this channel

tawdry scarab
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it's the load time isn't it, on the editor

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it gives up loading long content all the time

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after generating it i mean

unique stone
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Pretty sure they each use their own model or a corresponding one for cover (v3.5, v4, v4.5) rather than all the same one, which is why you can select from the drop-down on the Create panel when making a cover. Don't know if v4 and v4.5 have a variant of the base model like v3.5 seemed to (given that v3.5 didn't launch with Cover as a feature that's likely why that one's special.)

tribal remnant
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Create 3.5 > 4 > 4.5 | Cover/Replace/Persona 3.5 (introduced retroactively) > 3.5+ (launch version) > 3.5+ (with post-processing, known as v4) > 4.5 (presumably actual 4.5 model)

unique stone
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I don't know, other than you can choose the model when doing a Cover, or when using the editor (e.g. to replace a section). Would be a bit odd to offer a model selector if they don't actually use those respective models.

But, aside from the initial curiosity with v3.5 of it behaving noticeably better when using Cover (compared to a text only gen) I haven't tested specifically to see if Cover seems like a different model.

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(when it was a new feature in v3.5 it was very interesting mainly because it didn't suffer from some degradation issues I had encountered, and seemed to have some more instruments present.)

shell fog
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I’m trying to pay for my Suno subscription via Stripe, but the payment keeps getting declined

unique stone
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It's tricky with the newer models as it seems like there's another step involved when generating. I encountered a bug a while back where I managed to do something in the middle of a generation that hadn't finished, which gave me a half-baked clip which sounded closer to v3.5 in overall quality. So if we're not hearing the "raw" output from the newer models but we are hearing that for v3.5 it becomes a lot more complicated to figure out.

unique stone
shell fog
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my bank accepts international transactions

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alr

ebon sand
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i don't know, if they did that I'd actually be able to get decent songs from v4.5, wouldn't i? Clueless_cai

hasty ruin
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When will you fix it so that in the instrumental function suno does not add vocals....

sleek stump
# gilded galleon Any clue why the system is just ignoring song structure then? It was never perfe...

Its mainly due to the RNG aspect of the model. I will have days where I get exactly what I want in one or a few gens, then there will be days where I fight the model doing 50 or 60 gens and then giving up frustrated. Its really hit or miss with AI Generative outputs. I've also seen a pattern now of having more trouble with this when the system is under heavier load, like on the weekends or holidays where a lot more people are all using Suno. There may be other factors at play, but that has been my observation. 4.5 is still a beta model, I'm sure they will address many of the problems we have had, we just dont know when.

mental cypress
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is suno overload? because:
"Too many requests.
Please try again in a few moments."
it's so annoying.... oof

unique stone
hasty ruin
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On every one he manages to give me even when I have an entry: instrumental only, no vocals

unique stone
hasty ruin
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Option enabled yet still suno does not understand. Even when I add in the prompt: instrumental only

unique stone
mental cypress
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1 click, 1 requests is too much... weird

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if click slowy 1 times then: too many requests
I only get songs if click 3-5 times in row then i get 2 generated songs

unique stone
mental cypress
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even a single mouse click is one request too many

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I never had this problem when 4.5 wasn't released.

mental cypress
unique stone
# mental cypress I don't want to claim that 4.5 is to blame, but I've only been having this probl...

Possibly something else changed around the same time as v4.5 release... But it would be something triggered by the browser that the server isn't liking. There may have been rate-limiting that got added to something that wasn't there before. It makes no sense for this to be triggered simply by clicking one thing, and there'd be a lot more complaints about this if it were more widespread - hence why I think it's something your browser is doing (rather than something you're manually doing or something going wrong on Suno's side.)

If the server gets overloaded then stuff just takes longer to generate and eventually it ends up with a banner at the bottom of the page saying that generations are disabled for free users, stuff like that.

The only other thing would be if something else is using your Suno account, though I'm just guessing at this point. As you have a paid account you could try making a free account and see if that also has the same problem, to see if it's an account-specific thing.

sleek stump
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If you are on a desktop, with many browsers you can hit F12 to open the debug window and see if any errors are being thrown. This ccan be very useful in determining where the issue is.

hasty ruin
half dragon
solar ridge
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What's with the songs being too quiet? When I download it a check the loudness it's always capped at -6db

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I'm trying to workout if that's always been the case or not.

hasty ruin
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Prompst write manually

half dragon
brave shale
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Dont know if this is the right spot but can I make a playlist loop through the osngs forever? It always stops when it reaches the end

noble bear
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I have update the version of the Sumo with payment for one year. Can I use the creative songs in social media? What about the rights?

noble bear
hasty ruin
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Okay, I will try it according to your advice. I have one more question if it is possible to change the lyrics slightly in the generated song with vocals. Because when I try to do so, I keep getting the old memorised words.

polar spade
noble bear
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Is there any way to keep the instrumental part the same and change some words in a song? It seems that when I try to change any world a new song melody created also

quick wedge
polar spade
# mental cypress even a single mouse click is one request too many

. . . and the "too many requests" was also a thing before 4.5 I think not so much for model versions but from the increase in security measures which are onging. One assumption was there were still buffer requests or information saved of outputs from when the ato-moderator had been analyzing previous content. Common when an output is blocked or just never shows up. So, as if its thinks its still analyzing more that one thing and cant process. The normal close browers, clear caches, and even log out and log back in has been helpful.

polar spade
raw hedge
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is there anyway to keep a voice and create new songs with the same voice? i assumed this is what personas were for but the voice is never like it just the beat stays the same

half dragon
raw hedge
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for me it hasnt even been close to the voice my original had a accent thats totally gone in any new generations it keeps the background beat very alike hopefully they figure a way to voice clone generations

patent sand
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Try splitting the voice stem and making a persona of that if you can

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I'm not subscribed yet so idk if it's possible. But it might work

raw hedge
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giving it a try now

shy galleon
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Huhh? Am I missing something here? Isn't Persona's main function supposed to provide similar voice and style to songs you wanna create? Kinda defeats the purpose if it is not able to be based on your own original voice. There must be a way.. 🤔

patent sand
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It could also be an issue if there's a significant genre change between the song used for persona generation and the current song you're making

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4.5 seems to favor specific voices for specific genres

raw hedge
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i mean i used all the same prompts just different lyrics

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when u stem split tho yea u cant put it into a persona ;[

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for people who want to work on full AI albums this is pretty much a must option if its even possible to do in future versuions

patent sand
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There is one more idea I have but I have to find the message link

half dragon
patent sand
patent sand
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The idea is to try dissociating the vocals from the instrumental/genre so it can apply just the vocals to any other generation without getting confused by the instruments, and then it should (hopefully) add in the instruments normally and accordingly

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And prevent it from just matching one thing and not the other

raw hedge
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separating the vocals works for making a brand new beat now its not making the same beats all the time but its still not cloned the voice

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gunna have to look into what dotpuppy tagged ^^ sounds a little comfusing so ill have to have a proper look into it

patent sand
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The worst case is that you expand your overall knowledge and toolbox for later generations

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But it should genuinely help solve the current problem as well

sleek stump
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With Persona, keep in mind that they are "not" vocal presets, Suno currently does not have that functionality.. Persona are mainly used as influencers that are meant to give a user the same style outputs that tend to sound like a consistent band. Sometimes you will get the same vocalist but its a 50/50.

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Persona creators have found that just using a vocal stem from a song is a more consistent way to get the vocalist from that persona, but its still not 100%.

limber geyser
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Hey so I can't login thru Discord nor Facebook. It just sends me back to "Sign in" main screen and nothing happens even tho I do authorize it an all that. Anyone knows what is that about?

sleek stump
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There have been SSO login issues over the last couple months, Discord has been a more egregious offender. You can try 2 different methods to fix this with Discord login.

  1. Update your Discord password, log out and back into discord, then try logging into Suno again through Discord.
  2. In some cases updating the email address associated with your Discord account fixes it.
polar spade
# raw hedge when u stem split tho yea u cant put it into a persona ;[

Just for compare, I've used the same persona for two artists on two 12 song albums. One country pop, one femme folk. Femme folk in finished under 4.O, Country pop under 4.5 . No bug issues.

4.5 has alter my voice for one of the duos I had before in the Femme Folk album, but the 4.5 is consistent in its being a "new" voicing.

I'd say we have to assume there's are other factors , even such as the lyrics which may alter a personas sound. So it could be 4.5 means of prioritizing lyrics more into the inflections, quality and sound of the personas.

ebon sand
polar spade
gilded galleon
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Does anyone who makes rock or any of the devs know why Suno will no longer make solo's? It simply ignores my prompts, regardless of how I write it.

half dragon
gilded galleon
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@half dragon Doesn't for me. I used to use that but now--it's like it just skips the prompts entirely.

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It was never perfect and would 'sometimes' skip my prompts but I've been trying for 3 days to make one and nada. Likely wasted 1000 credits trying to make one. It's unusual.

half dragon
gilded galleon
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@half dragon If I try to get it to make a solo between the bridge and final chorus, it just skips the prompt. Adding it to style will make it add a solo type riff at the beginning, but again skips any prompts during the song.

I'm assuming they had an update recently or there's something going on with the training.

I can't get anything close to what you got. It just ignore me. Haha.

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I've made two full albums using Suno--one metalcore and the other pop punk and both were solo heavy. Haven't used it much in about a week and now... it's like a different ai, almost.

half dragon
gilded galleon
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I've been using 4.5 for most of it but now it's like both 4.5 and 4 ignore me on solos. It makes zero sense. I've even tried deleting unused library files because I know sometimes it will borrow from past creations and still--a whole lotta nada.

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I've even asked ChatGPT to make some prompts for me to see if they work better and they're ignored as well. Haha.

soft kraken
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Very niche issue here. Trying to generate videos to export, but I changed my username and handle about a month ago and all videos have my old username on them. I attempted to regenerate them but got the same results.

half dragon
gilded galleon
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Will do. I'll give it a few days and come back to it. Can only waste so many credits before it's time for a break. Haha. Thanks@

half dragon
soft kraken
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Will do

gray basin
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hi folks, I have been haviong problems extending an instrumental track. Every time I hit extend / remix (under 4.5 version) I nearly always get only a 3-9 second extension and "credits refunded" .... it's driving me a bit nuts as I understood we could extend up to 8 mins.... any ideas?

half dragon
gray basin
frozen sphinx
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When generating piano, Suno often creates fragments where piano sounds have noisy reverberations as if they are badly recorded.

velvet jungle
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Hi just wondering if anyone remasters there Suno creations, and if so what program or software do you guys use? To clean it up and improve the Ausio ... lmk

bleak plume
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Anyone else getting version 3.5 when trying to extend a song in 4.5 version?

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loosing creds on it as well

hardy thunder
bleak plume
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I have already made 100s 4.5 exteension without any problems so idk

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4.5 drop menu is showinf 4.5 as well

bleak plume
pulsar obsidian
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Ugh I wasted 100 credits not one song is good is it bad luck or just that same song gets bad with each generate

bleak plume
pulsar obsidian
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I did I changed it into all kinds used gpt for prompt generation still sucks

bleak plume
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yep been there as well
Just to becomw a woo girl when it finally drops

carmine spade
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I have lost well over 1000 credits to the edits completely ignoring the basic instructions, duplicating the lyrics, altering the style massively from where the song is at and then without changing a damn thing after dozens of attempts it works. And my tokens are depleted.

bleak plume
carmine spade
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and it seems to be a good way to increase revenues...lol

bleak plume
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Theroy crossed my mind more than once

carmine spade
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its not like this is outside of the business practice of llms lol

bleak plume
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What politics buddy

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it's all about Suno

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pros and cons in the tech department

unique stone
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Woodhouse autodeletes things with certain words. I think you used one that was under the "politics" category but some of the words are often used in other contexts 😅 so the response is a bit wrong sometimes.

sturdy yacht
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Hey guys, is the wait for a reply from Support always so long? I got my plan revoked a few hours ago and I contacted them ~20 days ago 'cause I was in financial trouble but in the meantime I sorted things out (circa 25 days is a LONG TIME) and with 900+ credits left, without any warning... now I'm left with a Free plan.

bleak plume
unique stone
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Anyway, the "I" in "AI" is supposed to stand for "Intelligence" but it very often is not. It's more like a brain that has knowledge of what music sounds like and is structured and no real comprehension of what's being asked other than a bundle of words it can sort of relate to music. Results always vary, as frustrating as that is.

unique stone
sturdy yacht
sleek stump
sturdy yacht
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So I got a reply literally right now and they won't give me my 900+ credits back... yay?

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I don't really understand so I just replied that they revoked it before my billing cycle renewed and I was left with all those credits unused. Makes little sense to me tbh.

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"I regret to let you know that we have already canceled your subscription and processed the refund. You may resubscribe again to continue using Suno." Resubscribe before my billing cycle completed is wild 💀

bleak plume
sturdy yacht
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Tried, they denied me the credits left. Sucks big time.

lusty juniper
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Would be great if premier users could upload longer audios for covers. 120 seconds is kinda short

sturdy yacht
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Told me they're refund me the money after I informed them about the ~900 credits left and that was the reply. In short, I'll have to subscribe again and those credits vanished

tepid moth
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Is it only me or has the 4.5 version does it even worse too work on a song in a DAW. Tried it several times, but the stems and songs just feel off. In the version 4 I at least could layer kicks and snares etc without feeling it out of sync. Frustrating. Getting the cpm from fadr, since suno do not provide any such information. Also the stems seems out of sync from the full song. I also noticed that the stem separation did get a lot worse in version 4.5. Just have too give up too be creative and just take the suno songs as it is. Maybe that is what they want.

sleek stump
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Stem separation has always been not good in Suno. They are working on a new/better stem separator but we dont know when that will be. I use Stemroller on my PC for my stems, outside Suno.

tepid moth
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Okay. What do you use for providing the bpm? I use fadr, but it just feels off all the time. Not much but I can feel the kick not layering correctly.

sleek stump
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I hear Lalal.ai is the best one but its expensive.

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I use Audacity for a lot of stuff. It has a beat finder function, if I remember correctly.

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Suno tends to default most everything to 120 bpm..

tepid moth
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Okay. I need too figure this bpm out. Driving me crazy. LOL

bleak plume
sleek stump
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IN the lower left of the UI is a bpm section with a few options

tepid moth
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Yeah I use Reason, and can change the bpm there as well, but need to get the exact tempo from the original suno song.

tepid moth
sleek stump
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Audacity is free so you wont lose anything other than your time

warped iris
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Hey folks. Every time I try to log in to Suno it now says, "(my e-mail address) is not allowed to access this application."

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Any idea what I can do?

bleak plume
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register a new account

sleek stump
golden knot
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I know I was trying myself earlier to see about adding a few extra credits until my monthly top off cuz I've been a little extra savvy or heavy with the muse this month. But yet when I go to try and want to add credits it doesn't seem to want to let me complete the transaction And I know I have a payment method attached to the account, since I am a subscriber. I have tried it across at least two different browsers plus the mobile app for Android. I also noticed that if I want to try and click on edit billing history to say potentially update or change or maybe add another billing option if I try to click on the button to do so it doesn't do anything.

warped iris
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I logged into another account I accidentially created once. It's just my main account that seems to have the issue.

warped iris
sleek stump
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There have been SSO login issues over the last couple months, Discord has been a more egregious offender. You can try 2 different methods to fix this with Discord login.

  1. Update your Discord password, log out and back into discord, then try logging into Suno again through Discord.
  2. In some cases updating the email address associated with your Discord account fixes it.
warped iris
sleek stump
warped iris
sleek stump
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Happy to help!

dire night
placid ledge
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Anyone know how long support takes via email? Over 24 hours with no response so far

low monolith
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hi hi, i would ask u anyone used the model from python suno / bark ? I would like to know, how to use negative prompts ?

craggy ingot
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what is the primary reason that when I try to edit with song structure, suno won't parse the verses and shows me the whole song as one unit? How can I get back to editing verse by verse?

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i'd like to keep my cover and edit two lines in one verse

sleek stump
half dragon
placid ledge
craggy ingot
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havent cropped yet, i'll try that

tepid moth
craggy ingot
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full crop will produce another copy but suno refuses to load it

short cypress
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I have several of my own songs (original lyrics & melody, with me singing) and want to use Suno to replace my voice and upgrade the style/orchestration but preserve my melody and lyrics. I beloeve Suno can do this but am looking for direction. Thanks.

half dragon
regal shadow
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I DONT Like Remix

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How do you get Rid of it???

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I cannot turn it off...

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Its messing up the songs.

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..

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Its doing a weird Inward tune and not outward when Creating music.

hollow hare
hollow hare
# regal shadow I DONT Like Remix

You cannot unfortunately. Remix is now a new category for Cover, Extend, Reuse Lyrics, and the new option to adjust the speed of the song.

Which remix function were you trying to use? I cannot tell if it is Cover or Extend based on the comment.

If you wish, you can DM me with the link of the original song and let me know what you had intended and I will see if I can achieve something similar on my side.

viral pond
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this is so amazing, creating my own melodies as cover template seed, suno creates even better results..... im flabbergasted

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even that typical suno beat hammering is gone

broken viper
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I bought 10$ but I did not receive that Pro package and waited for email reply for three days but still no one support I sent full purchase receipt and picture to support but still no response to me for three days

sleek stump
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What email address did you send to?

broken viper
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I made a purchase with 10 dollars to buy the pro package but I did not receive any credit even though the money was deducted I have full pictures and receipts of my purchase but did not receive anything I have contacted support for 3 days now but no reply

hollow hare
flint havenBOT
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SUNO BILLING HELP

For billing/payment issues, email: billing@suno.com

Include:

  • Your Suno @handle
  • Description of the issue
  • Transaction ID(s) or payment receipt(s)

Before mailing:

  • Check if your card was charged
  • Verify funds were available
  • If Stripe rejected your card, try using the iOS or Android app to pay via Apple/Google Pay.

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polar spade
polar spade
cosmic field
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Hello , first post here and hope I’m in the right place. How do we do specific language?

polar spade
cosmic field
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Unfortunately it does not recognize the difference in Pashto between Pakistani Pashto and Kandahari Pashto from Afghanistan. It gives Pakistani version.

polar spade
polar spade
full cypress
cosmic field
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Ya I look in there too and unfortunately to no avail. Made 2200 songs and yet no success. I run a 1.2 millon network and my job is to figure this out for them but have yet to succeed.

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Does Suno come close to artist specific if no copy rights ?

polar spade
cosmic field
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Style , voice alike ?

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I mean is there a way to train own voice per se ?

polar spade
# cosmic field Style , voice alike ?

There is no direct attempt or means to emulate an artist, no. It is even more likely to program in filter to avoid any similarities, as you mentioned in regards to not stepping on copyrights.

cosmic field
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If my own voice should it not be my right ?

polar spade
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Yes. You're right. But no matter at this point, Suno can not distinguish ones character voice from another. If it should happen to emulate your voice on its own whim, that's good for you. You can certain use it if you own the song, but we can NOT make a persona of an uploaded voice, so that makes it difficult to easily keep cloning that same voice onto other songs. Better at this time to just do that off-site with third party software/apps.

cosmic field
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Any recommendations who does , would be great help

polar spade
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No recommendations, but you could check out...errr... kits.ai or acestudios and see if they have something you like. Both at a cost.

There are others that have been mentioned. I wouldn't recall.

cosmic field
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Ok, thank you Davson.

polar spade
cosmic field
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Cheers 🍻

plush flower
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Hi I have a question. Generated a song, tried to edit it, but it has an ''intro'' labeled green which does not show up in the lyrics, thus making me seemingly unable to edit it. How does this work?

polar spade
# plush flower Hi I have a question. Generated a song, tried to edit it, but it has an ''intro'...

Preludes/intros that Suno creates typically are green i think, yes.

In Replace mode, you could try to click near left of the first letter of the lyrics and drag backwards to see if any of the spaces highlight. That space would be the the few seconds reserved for the intro.

But its hard to really prompt well in Replace mode, though you do have a styles box and can attempt prompts in the "lyrics replace" section.

Are you not able to drag a box over the waveform at the bottom over that section? It may be less that 3 seconds long and thus prevent you from dragging over.

Even just click the first word in the lyrics might the create a white box in the waveform which you can then click "Select" to attempt to make changes.

plush flower
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It pretty much makes a 2 second sentence and repeats that 3-4 times

polar spade
polar spade
plush flower
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It does but it doesn't go further back than this;

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For some reason the actual start of the verse begins at that very part in the intro, and everything before that, I can't change

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Well, not manually at least

polar spade
plush flower
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So when I click on the very beginning of the lyrics, it starts where it highlights on the picture in the intro section in the middle of a sentence, this sentence is not in the lyrics tab. The actual lyrics starts in the middle of the highlighted box

The white line on the left of the box is where the unwritten lyrics starts, and the blue line is where the written lyrics starts

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Align lyrics also doesn't seem to change anything

polar spade
# plush flower So when I click on the very beginning of the lyrics, it starts where it highligh...

Yes. That's a misalignment. Have you checked the alignment. And with respect, that may be so buggy it won't align anyway. But have you, at minimum listened to the song once through and watch where it highlights the lyrics as it plays, karaoke style highlights, to see if its just not showing text for some of your lines or seems off?

And it it all looks good, or you can't tell, at least click to generate the alignment and try again with Replace.

plush flower
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I did listen through it, everything else is as intended. The karaoke style works too, its just that small section. And the intro also happens to be the only thing that needs editing 🤣

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I have also tried to remaster the song in another version to see if that would change anything or add the lyrics, but it just produces the exact mistake

half dragon
polar spade
plush flower
plush flower
polar spade
plush flower
polar spade
plush flower
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At least the lyrics is now aligned, thats a step I suppose?
Its still weird tho, so it removed the ''bad'' lyrics from the first version of the song that I couldn't change, but I do have a double intro now

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Both have the ''Hmm'' but the only shown lyrics of ''hmm'' is the second intro box

polar spade
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Try VRKings suggestion (making a copy of your first original song) as a viable means and see how that works first.

plush flower
polar spade
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Back to your intent: Youre'saying it keeps missing some text in your lyrics which are in the beginning of your song? Is that all you wish to add back? Nevermind. You got it.

polar spade
plush flower
half dragon
plush flower
# half dragon On one hand, I want to know about the problem and how to solve it. On the other ...

The intro part did not appear in the lyrics section (or any part that can be edited) but did contain lyrics, unfortunately the only lyrics in the song that I wanted to change.
No matter what I tried, I couldn't get the lyrics to show up.
So what I did, was cover the song and add [intro] above [verse] (so a new start of the song) and just wrote the sentence I wanted to change under the start of [verse], it ended up removing the bad line from the intro and aligned the start of the song again

half dragon
plush flower
sharp gull
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How does the downvoting work? I've read that it helps Suno learn, but how so? And do I need to keep downvoted songs around for Suno to benefit from them being downvoted?

half dragon
sharp gull
half dragon
sharp gull
half dragon
sharp gull
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Ya, I never looked into the report because I was under the impression it was for if a song violated terms or was in some other way inappropriate. I've just been deleting the failed songs to keep clutter down.

half dragon
polar spade
half dragon
alpine perch
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@polar spade my friend just got their account deleted and they don't know why

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@polar spade so I look through all the comments she made recently including notifications all gone which is ridiculous because I never delete any of my comments and I definitely don't do that so what is going on

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I can understand deleting comments but even the notifications of those comments are gone like they were never made which is creepy and also weird

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And she just emailed me that her account has been deleted again I can understand someone being deleted but this is just overboard specially most of her comments were not offensive at all except good job in that was beautiful don't really consider that offensive comments the power that people have on here to basically cause someone to be banned over something so ridiculous is so odd to me

half dragon
alpine perch
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Report it yeah the funny thing is all they tell me to do is send an email and I find it strange that there's two people I know that are basically being bullied on here and when I file these complaints about the fact that people have too much power on here it's ridiculous that it gets ignored and they just tell me to go on here or send an email which do not help at all

half dragon
alpine perch
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Yeah I understand that but how can you report something if you don't know who's doing it if they can remain unanimous kind of defeats the purpose anyone on here can literally report someone and they basically get away with it they don't have to actually directly bully you all they need to do is say you're bugging them or you comment on their songs too much and you're finished that's the unfortunate fact of this broken thing on here and I've seen it

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No I'm just at a point where I'm just giving up when it comes to this type of situation don't even know why I even bother

half dragon
alpine perch
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Yeah that is true I already sent an email for her to do that

half dragon
alpine perch
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Isn't this technical discussion most of the time I see people on here talking about billing so where am I supposed to go if I can't go to technical that makes no sense

half dragon
alpine perch
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Okay fair enough but at the same time those two places never emailed me back but thanks anyway 😔

half dragon
alpine perch
shy sand
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hey ppl, how to make a track with only spoken voice, dont need music, only a narrative voice

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ty

mental cypress
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hi, how i can add a pause?

That the singer sings the next verse after 20seconds? or 10 seconds?

like:

"Hello i am here"

instrumental Pause/break for 10 seconds and after the 10 seconds:

"and i am here to sing"

suno ignoring the command: [Pause 10s]

rough bridge
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suno said i could remix other peoples song but how

hasty ruin
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Despite the guidance received here, suno still does not listen to the instructions and puts vocals where they SHOULD NOT....

polar spade
hasty ruin
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OK i did

polar spade
hasty ruin
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Yes, thanks

dapper charm
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Hi Suno Team,
I’ve been enjoying your platform, but I noticed that many of my songs keep generating with the same or very similar melody, despite different prompts. Is there a way to avoid this or improve variation? I’d love your advice.
Thanks for your great work!

polar spade
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Is the metering on your lyrics about the same? The length of lines and their arrangement can often force a similar melody, in real life, and so would do the same in AI.

dapper charm
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Thanks, that makes sense — but I’ve actually always used similar lyrical structures. This only started happening with the 4.5 model. V4 used to give me much more melodic variation even with the same type of lyrics. So I’m wondering if 4.5 is just more rigid or compressed in how it handles melody.

dusky salmon
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I need help with Billing. How could I get help from the Suno team instead of just emailing? I sent them but no reply.

sleek stump
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/billing

flint havenBOT
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SUNO BILLING HELP

For billing/payment issues, email: billing@suno.com

Include:

  • Your Suno @handle
  • Description of the issue
  • Transaction ID(s) or payment receipt(s)

Before mailing:

  • Check if your card was charged
  • Verify funds were available
  • If Stripe rejected your card, try using the iOS or Android app to pay via Apple/Google Pay.

Do not send non-financial issues to this address — it may delay your response.

short cypress
rustic spindle
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Hi guys, I made a song in the free trial; it was perfect, the city loved it. The problem is I'm on the free tier and have no commercial license. I just subscribed to Soundful; is there a way to get that license for the same music generated?

flint havenBOT
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What's a Soundful?

sleek stump
neat nexus
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Avoid the CAPSLOCK if you don't want Woody to have another fit again.

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Just saying...

radiant breach
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Fk off with your extensions suno, wasted way to many credits today just to keep hearing the extensions cut straight to the chorus and ignore EVERYTHING before it, or it starts with somethin BEFORE the extension. Kept changing the time of the extension, changed some words and formatting. But after wasting credits, I decided Suno might not be for me because Im not an influencer just trying to get clout. I actually want to make decent music. Suno you just keep taking our money to give to tiktokers.

radiant breach
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Who runs this circus?

neat nexus
radiant breach
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they need someone to buy the company and fix it

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like holy mother of russia its been over a year now and they NEVER LISTEN OR LEARN

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just keep taking our money

neat nexus
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...wait. How is it doing something before the extension when you extend the song?

radiant breach
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Sometimes it takes a verse or something, instead of what I have literally written down right there for it to take from. Why is it pulling from other parts of the song? It seems like its just doing its own thing

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then one was 0:19, like... thanks?

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getting close, but like this one: Why did it skip 2 lines????????

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Stepping away to take a breather lol wtf

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GAH, suno fix your garbage

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Finally got it, and I think I figured it out. Once you spend $29.99 in credits you get what you want.

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would it help to crop a song before extending?

fresh pike
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waiting for suno 5.0 because then my music will be perfect

radiant breach
novel dove
half dragon
half dragon
half dragon
rustic spindle
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Guys, I have a question. I promoted an amazing audio using the free tier, but I don't own it since it's a free tier. I subscribed to Pro, remastered the song, and manually remixed it in editing software. So, is it originally mine? Since most of the beat is generated using pro and i own the lyrics

rugged otter
half dragon
rugged otter
half dragon
rugged otter
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but more importantly, I doubt suno will care

half dragon
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if he uses Suno remix... like Resuse Prompt and style... or Cover.... then yeah

rustic spindle
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I click the remix not the remastered

half dragon
unique stone
half dragon
rugged otter
rustic spindle
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After generating the remix i got the previous generation which was the one on free tier and remix them again this out of suno using the remix and the original non remix outiside the suno using adobe audition to remix both audio

half dragon
half dragon
# unique stone

This is important. Remix your own songs. @rustic spindle
Only eligible for commercial if the original was created during the subscription period.

maiden gazelle
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I use Suno almost exclusively for vocal cover versions of my old instrumental music ideas. However, for the past few days, I've been getting repeated messages saying that vocals have been detected in my audio, preventing me from publishing it or creating personas. This is completely untrue. I use Suno to create vocals. Is anyone else having the same problem?

patent sand
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Some instrumental can be detected as vocal

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If you search this channel, it's been brought up and answered before

maiden gazelle
rough reef
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Tengo una duda haber si me pueden ayudar. Si el chorus creado es melodia mas voz, el segundo chorus es melodia sin voz y el tercer chorus antes de la explosion instrumental es voz sin melodía. ¿Existe alguna forma que la melodía y la voz queden unidas? ¿O es que para suno la melodía es la voz y no puede hacer ambas al mismo tiempo?

modern wraith
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Payment issue, I have used my card before smoothly but suddenly It shows this msg, I don't know why my debit card is declining again and again..
no solid solution provided me from the team.. as I'm keep asking via email and discord

final hazel
modern wraith
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I had use this before, I dont know why the team don't get back to me via email..

final hazel
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Just follow up on the mail. There is a little bit of backlog.