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Hello. I am trying to permanente remove and delete a song from the trash fólder but when pressing the option, It still is visible in the fólder. How can this be solved?
Anyoneelse took advantage of the Black Friday deal but was charge full price the following month? Sent email to billing@suno.com but still no follow up.
When you go to delete the clip, do you get any messages popping up at the bottom of your screen?
Nothing
This is happening in the browser on my tablet
(setting up an emulated tablet so I can see what it might look like on your end 🙏)
If you look at the top right of the monthly plan, you will see it was only for the first month
Hah. On my Fold, using the browser client in chrome, the only option the 3-dot menus give me for tracks in the trash is to add them to a playlist. 
I've got a question. Is this gonna be the final quality version of Suno or do we get a new version in the future? Please anyone who works in Suno answer me.
please anyone who works in Suno answer me
While there are staff logged in, this is primarily a server for users to chat with other users 🙏
Outside of the community support lead Mike B, the staff don't typically chime in, from what I've seen
I don't see why they would stop. Future models versions will likely have more variables defined which should make the models more better/accurate
If Suno stops, competitors would soon be far ahead of it and would become irrelevant. Also, keep in mind that genAI is relatively new and there's a lot of room for improvement
@lyric delta we are seeing quantifiable improvement even on the same model, V4 in January is certainly better than V4 in late November.
Understood, make sure the original audio time + extension time doesn’t exceed 4 minutes. At least for uploaded audios, audio + extend cannot surpass 4 minutes, so you can extend the original audio starting from, for example, 1 minute, to ensure the extension has 3 minutes, if that’s helpful!
For full songs made on Suno, I believe the maximum extension time is 2 minutes.
I tested it here, and the extensions are working normally!
Alright! I hope it gets resolved!
Hi guys
I'm having a problem with my suno not generating full sound, can anyone help me?
I forwarded the e-mail to them and they directed me to the support channel. I'm a paying user
I just had a quick question. I had just made four free songs under the trial version. I decided to get 500 songs for $10. Payment went through and see the number 50 in settings. However, when attempting to write music. It shows I only have 2 songs left in V4 mode. Do I need to use up my last 2 free song credits to refresh the 500 (or 50) that I had paid for? Maybe it works better in the web browser rather than through the mobile app?
Thank you for your time and help,
NerdySwedeDJ
If the payment went through, it should show the credits you paid for. Have a look in the browser to check. If they aren't there, I'd write to billing@suno.com for clarification.
I believe the number of v4 tracks that freebie users can generate is limited.
Thank you Panthera. I will log in using my web browser. I appreciate your help.
Yes, but the user shouldn't be Free anymore after buying Pro. 🙂
Yeah I know. That is why I purchased the the $10.00 plan. I will try the web version. I have been using the app.
sorry fam - i am caught between compulsively creating new ideas vs. actually watching, reading and learning how to use suno properly - but is there an easy way to add lyrics/vocals to a pre-existing instrumental? i tried re-using the prompt but it completely changed the track when adding the voice and created something totally new - is that how it is meant to work or am I doing something wrong?
Generative overlay isn’t really a thing atm — might be some strats, but nothing direct
Hello, I became a pro member via mobile device. However, I cannot use the v4 feature on the website and mobile application. I receive an upgrade warning when I want to use it. I kindly ask you to help.
@light badger which app? Which device
Hi, I have a problem. My card (VISA) is rejected for payment. (I have already used this card for other purchases on suno)
I upload my own audio clips of my compositions. I used the prompt "Use Clip". Is there a better prompt for this OR on your weekly "Teach SUNO Stuff" session could you add that?
It’s probably best to contact your bank about that and just ask them what’s going on with your card.
Did something change recently (last 3 days or so) songs just never end anymore. I can extend and add [END] to lyrics of style and ...well...it just keeeeeeps going.
I only use that prompt if I want SUNO to just add vocals to my tracks (hit or miss)
I noticed this also
I have the same problem with two different cards (from 2 different banks).. I don't think that's a bank's problem
Have you tried contacting support support@suno.com I just thought it was a bank problem
Oh! Thank you! I was looking for exactly this 😉
You’re welcome 😊
Im burning credits here trying to end songs LOL. I just wanna ennnnd them
Swap to v3 and extend from where you'd like to end the song, using no lyrics and end as the only style prompt -- this brings to song down to v3 quality when you "Get whole song", but you can remaster to bring it back up to v4 quality afterward 💪
That’s free songs that don’t count to those 500 generations. You get 500 additional in your plan. Enjoy 🙂
i'll give it a shot, thanks @charred merlin
If you get stuck, feel free to shoot me a message & I'd be happy to help using my own credits 🙂
Has shimmer been fixed? And gen thing
mmmmm kinda but not really, shimmer is still there on certain types of music, the simpler it is, the cleaner it is
I've noticed it on Trance, Drum and Bass and Heavy Metal stuff, but pop and hip hop are coming out clean. granted, these are the only genres I've looked into.
metal is the biggest culprit, always dirty and always has shimmer, 1 out of every 10 songs is clean for me.
Thank you MichalAI! I was hoping that was the case. So, I presume once I use up my free credits. My paid credits will show show up in the menu I purchased? I appreciate everyone's help here. I am very new to Suno and Discord. I am loving it. 🙂👍
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Yes. 🙂
👍 Nice! Thank you.
hello anyone know what is the issue about https://www.suno.wiki/ ?
Suno Wiki retired was there something that you needed help with?
what do u mean by retired !! its a website i never saw website retire before
You must not be around for long then. I have seen tons of sites die, mainly due to lack of maintenance or lapsing on domain/server renewal.
Anyways, you can see the archived web pages on https://archive.org
You can ask us for help too
anyway, is there any fix for the treble issue yet ? any song i made verse 2 till the end, have a different quality and treble than verse 1 this issue since v4 released
I'm legitimately crying happy tears because the first internet community I ever joined (which on a relevant note, was retired) still has the top-50 content hosted on archive.org 🥹
I’m not familiar with the treble issue but maybe try using remaster on it as that might help the song sound clearer.
I just wanna say, whatever the team's done recently, kudos to them... the audio degradation is much less prevalent now
@charred merlin he know the issue and we had a long conversion about it, also remaster is not doing any difference i mean its not a fix too
Remaster can fix, but it's not a guaranteed "make it sound better" button, it's a "make it sound different" button, and sometimes that "different" doesn't change what we want
Sorry for not answering correctly just one of the few things I know, or knew I guess when it comes to technical stuff.
it didn`t fix the trebele issue. i made alot of remaster its the same
Nothing to apologize for, @quick wedge! 🙂
Hello everyone, please tell me how to get a commercial use license in a pro account for promoting and monetizing songs?
@fallow musk I don't doubt that Suno may be "stuck" in how it's remastering that track, but there's a large number of my own tracks that have had the bass restored & shimmering removed from having remastered.
I'd noted that it can improve quality, and positioned that it wasn't a guaranteed process. Unfortunately, there isn't a ton of different approaches we can try regarding Remastering since it's a one-shot process (beyond realigned the lyrics, it's not like we can change prompts or something), seemingly it works really well when it works, and sometimes doesn't work the way we'd expect.
If it's absolutely refusing to budge, I'd be happy to take a shot?
I have the same problem. My maximum extension time is 1:06 and then suno just stops. Also the original song is no longer created with a full 4 minutes, but only 3:59 - every time.
Have you fixed this problem?
Hey @sterile peak, there isn't a specific document granted for songs -- the ToS grants you commercial rights if all of the segments were made while you were on a paid plan.
If your distributor needs some form of proof, you can send them the song links for the segments used in the song (which shows the timestamps they were created), along with the suno receipts that show you had paid plans during that month
I’ll try not answer incorrectly even if I’m trying
If you're referring to the degradation problem of "thin and hissy audio," the issue still persists; I haven’t noticed any improvement since it appeared (after the second week of December, when users reported improvements in shimmer)...
For example, in the "New" section, this song was generated just minutes ago using v4 and has the issue. It's easy to notice by listening to the beginning of the song and then skipping to the end... the audio degrades over time, becoming very apparent the closer to the end it gets!
https://suno.com/song/9b4a5cf7-68da-474c-a056-268e95af3740
Unlike in 3.5, in v4 the problem occurs in all generations, not just in extends!
[raw and emotional voice] inner conflict and fragile hope, blending aggressive synths, sounds of cascading sand, whispers of 'Empty' calling to the protagonist, haunting echoes of shattering glass. song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
fwiw, I don't think you said anything wrong -- I was replying to the other user, but I apologize if I made you feel like you'd misspoken. 🙏
Pretty sure we ended up saying the same thing, I just rambled a bit more 😛
It’s understandable you just know more than me I’m just not knowledgeable yet 👍 hope I can learn from everyone though
DARPA Magus
title of my next track 🙂
You're plenty knowledgable 🙂
not even sure what genre this is. i truly suffer from genre-dysphoria https://suno.com/song/de93911c-bcac-4b8b-a551-61b7103cd9ec
sonic, melodic metal, polyphonic, glitch, staccato, mathematical, metal, dubstep song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
No genre for you! Come back, 1 year! 🫵
Was there a question you had about the generation, or anything specific with the prompting technique you were wanting to discuss?
Or is it a matter that you're really proud of this track and wanted to share?
Thank you so much!
nah ur comment inspired the name for the track 🙂 i still havent worked out what genre it is but i'm putting a whole bunch of this morning's experimentation in a playlist called Fibonacci soon still working on extracting the most purest form of chaos from suno 😄
Thank you 😊
Anyone that's willing to check if their remake section function is broken?? Mine sure isn't working as promised right now..
DEVS please look this way.. When I use the Replace Section tools and select 10 seconds I get 2 minute clips.. I've wasted like 200 tokens on this now.. not a happy camper.. Any idea why this is?? DOing updates or something ?
@olive ferry -- these issues aren't only happening recently.
The devs don't really hang out in this channel to read comments, but they've set up https://sunomusic.typeform.com/to/D9VQkHr5 to field your feedback about the feature 🙏
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but how can they sell a product like this.. it's not even remotly working..
Hi, kinda new here…
I have maybe like 18 “replace section” generations made of the same part of my song, the targeted replacement lyrics come out well but then it just repeats the last 2 seconds twice on every one of them 🤦♂️
Any way to work around this for now? I’ve changed the section length every time and even monkeyed with the section’s last words but it repeats the seconds that are outside the “section”
I'm of no help sorry but I am also here because things are not working at all with replace section.. it's messed up..
It’s probably not a big issue but I think my profile is broken. There’s more likes and plays over fans and I don’t like it. It’s discouraging too ☹️
I have a question about a song I created, the song was created with the free plan but now I remastered it with the Pro plan, I wanted to know if I can use it for commercial purposes. thank you so much
Don't know if you ever got an answer? I'm not very experienced, but my guess would be to download the instrumental and uploading it as a reference clip. Might have to crop it, and choose the best passage. Then prompt your way out of getting the best result. Mind you, that the upload audio will probably be just a reference, hook or the like. Depending on the flow in lyrics as well. You could also just try to extend and and add lyrics from a specific point, it would have a somewhat similar effect I believe.
Nope. The timestamp is gathered from the original.
The lyrics are mine, and the remastered one is different in instrumental from the original
I might have misunderstood then. Is it your own remaster or using the remaster function? If the latter, it will track the original as it is the reference for the remaster. I'd just advice you to contact Support and kindly ask for the commerciel rights. They are usually very kind if you subscribed in a fair amount time from the creation date of a specific free plan song
What happens is that I made the song with the free plan with my lyrics, but it turned out so good that I want to use it, when I made the original I subscribed 1 hour later thinking that it would work for me with the license, but today I realized It's not possible so I remastered it today with the suno option, but I don't know if I can use it for something commercial
Thank you @severe dew ❤️
i will tackle this after i actually manage v4 to give me a jamaican vocalist heh
Write to support@suno.com and explain your situation. They have been known to be very accommodating if you tell them what happened.
Remaster is a mastering option to re-apply the weight and DB of vocal and instruments as you would with a finished track in a live studio. So, you can't use the remaster without asking support for the commerciel rights since you in principal made the original under the free plan, giving SUNO the rights. Ask them and I cross my fingers you get it.
Thank you!
NP. Best of luck on that vocal. If you remember me by then, I'd like to hear it 🎉
Hello, I have another question if I use the new Persona option for a new song, does it include the license? For the Persona option I used one that I made with the free plan
I think the new "download .wav" pop-up should be removed and we should go back to how it was prior. Suno is adding another step in the process of downloading a song, it was faster prior. Now I have to wait for the wav to be generated and can't do anything else on screen, before I could do other things while it was generating the wav file. Any Suno devs here that can explain the purpose of adding that popup? Seems like a step backwards, especially since we want to be moving at the speed of creativity.
Hello, I have another question if I use the new Persona option for a new song, does it include the license? For the Persona option I used one that I made with the free plan
I also see they removed the song count next to the playlists. Now you can't tell how many songs you have in a playlist. Why's that? It was nice to see how many songs I had in each playlist. Another weird thing to remove.
help please
A Basic plan allows you to create songs for non-commercial use, while songs created with Pro and Premier plans include commercial use.
My question is that if I use a song from the free plan for the persona option, is there no problem?
Yeah you should be good
than you
I think it counts if you’re a pro or premium user
thats right, thank you
You’re welcome 😊
Good evening! I signed up for Suno Pro and after 3 days of use my subscription went back to free today. I sent them an email and still haven't received a response. Can you help me?
Do you have Suno's logo appearing in any of your thumbnails recently?
You will want to get in touch with billing@suno.com
But first make sure that your financial institute did not block the transaction. Maybe @steady kelp (Community Manager) can check if that was the case? He doesn't work in financial but should see if Rejection by the bank may be an issue
No, it was paid in cash by Mercado Livre, an eBay partner.
You will have to get in touch with them. Generally it is not advised to use a service from behalf of a third party (i.e. payments are not made in your name).
As far as I know, Suno payment processor only accepts certain payments through Stripe, Apple Pay, and the Google equivalent. No cash equivalence, just credit cards.
If you paid less than what Suno charges ($10 or $30 USD/month), it is highly likely the person used a scammed gift card for payment and that was discovered and struck down
@hollow hare That's it, it was paid for by Google through the Mercado Livre bank
Ah, I see. Still, you will need to check with them if the payment got blocked or went through (so you have an official correspondence)
You will get a response from Suno within about one business week, their emails are still backed up (if you send them another email, it will be pushed to the back of the queue, so just wait for their response).
@hollow hare What the hell! I'm going to lose a week of pro use...
Well, there are thousands of users and the winter holidays certainly did not help.
As I said before, you may want to get in touch with Mike B for a faster response to see if it was a Rejection on bank or Suno side, not sure if he can do anything more.
Besides, when you do get a correspondence with Suno, you can ask them to extend your membership for the amount of days missed.
@hollow hare Okay, thanks for the help! Hugs!
Anyone else having issues uploading audio right now?
Try clearing browser cache and reopening Suno
maybe suno doesn't like aiff?
Hey, I asked Suno to create a Gangsta Rap instrumental with Lo-Fi, but every time he created the songs they were very short, they didn't last more than 4 seconds, there were only two that he created that were longer, I would like to know why this happened.
I often see this if the instrumental switch is off and the lyrics field was empty.
If the switch was on but it did that, try turning off the switch and have [instrumental] in the lyrics
Is Suno having technical issues again? Now my profile says 0 plays and 0 likes? It wasn’t like that before unless the numbers reset.
It didn't work, I'm still having the same problem.
Hm, do you have Suno's logo appearing on your recent songs thumbnail?
Uhhh, no, the songs have AI generated images as thumbnails.
xD it’s back I just refreshed the browser it’s back to normal
Hmm, maybe a failed captcha issue? Try signing out > deleting all cache and cookies > force close app > reopen and sign back in.
If that fails, please link me to the song (you can DM it if you do not want others to see it)
Great to hear 🙂
If you'd like to share the style prompts you're using, we can try a couple generations to see if we're running into the same issue, to isolate whether it might be related to the prompt
Well, what I'm using is "Gangsta Rap, Lo-Fi", this problem is happening only with this combination that I'm using today.
v4, initial generation, instrumental toggle on, no personas?
Also getting short generations -- testing
🧑🔬
No personas, yes, only the instrumental is activated, yes, only the version I'm using is 3.5
guys, is possible to add a personalized beat to a lyrics??
If you use the Audio Upload feature you can provide your own original beat for Suno to continue from, and provide the lyrics to be used along with the music
If you're on a paid plan, it can be a VERY powerful workflow to simply hum or vocalize the music you want & get Suno to cover your upload in a particular style -- once you have that beat, you can Extend from it to add your desired lyrics -- breaking it into a couple smaller steps gives you a lot of control compared to doing everything in one fell swoop (though that's still possible)
As a quick test, are you getting the same "bug rate" if you use LoFi instead of Lo-Fi?
how can i do that??
Well, now I reversed the prompt, putting "Lo-Fi, Gangsta Rap" and it seems to have stopped the bug, but I'll try again the other version but with LoFi to see if that was the problem.
May have just been a roll of the dice -- whether lo-fi was buggy, whether it was that combination or ordering, or if Suno just needing something new thrown at it, I'm glad you're back creating 🤘
@desert latch , the devs don't read this channel. This is for users to help other users, please post these messages in a more appropriate location 🙏
Could you inform me or appropriate channel?
#💡┃suggestions-web might be a more appropriate channel
The devs read the suggestions & bugs channels more often, where a lot of the server is just for users to share songs, collaborate & help each other -- but they check there for ideas & to see what's broken
@open talon you can upload your own music from the create screen, which adds it to your library beside all of the suno-generated songs -- you can then interact with it the same way you do with other Suno songs, like covering, extending, replacing sections, etc
Thank you for developing Minecraft, btw
How long does one have to listen to a song until it becomes a play?
Just tested. Didn't count at all. 😅 Heard two songs complete, they still have the same number of listens. 🤷♀️
Plus, I have a lot of weird ratios of plays to likes so idk
SUNO websites are having a technical issues
Me, too. Likes keep disappearing and Follows, too, after you refresh. 😬 Hopefully, this gets fixed sometime soon. 🙂
At least the quality has gotten better
ill check ill run a test track BRB
testing...
4.0
and 3.0
so fare no shimm
on 4.0
wow good
nice and clean
now i have 2 hot tracks ok now for 3.0
3.0 good and clean smoth
im going to do a Hip hop, R&b, Electronic synths, 70s retro, Slow paced and see if it shimmers in V4.0
good
Hip hop, R&b, Electronic synths, 70s retro, Slow paced song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Hey Suno
Question how to I get my refund or points back I never got ?
my 2nd track has shimmer
Hip hop, R&b, Electronic synths, 70s retro, Slow paced song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
1st track no Shimmering
Hip hop, R&b, Electronic synths, 70s retro, Slow paced song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
worked out an easier way (i think). Since you can make a cover of your own songs, you can make a cover of your original and should hopefully stay mostly the same but can change/apply lyrics (or new lyrics, or persona) to the 'cover' version - if that makes sense 🙂 gorn try it now
How do I find my login email through user @ please?
I have a profile that had some songs, but I don't remember the email, just the user @
I do not believe there is a way because there likely is no way you can prove it is yours. Hmm, can you not see if you got an email from Suno from the accounts you can access?
I suppose you can talk to @steady kelp (Community Manager) and he may suggest a method, but you will need to have some way to verify of that account is truly yours
I understand, I can only prove it because I had a link to a song and it was never public
does Suno provide APIs for developers?
Most communications regarding billing questions would likely be to billing@suno.com
This is a technique channel for members to discuss tricks and hacks for using Suno, mostly.
I am saying that I will upload my song, which is in my own voice, and after that, can I use the "feature personas" option to create a persona of my own voice?
Can someone tell me?
Hi. I've tried doing that. Yes, it is possible, but the voice will certainly not be identical.
Thank for your help
Unfortunately, Personas can't be made from uploads containing vocals (or sounds that Suno mistakes for vocals). It will also prevent you from setting those uploads Public as well as any tracks resulting from those uploads.
I think it would be great to be able to download the .srt files, so that we can make our own lyric videos.
hello guys, I exported a song that suddenly stopped playing, even though the lyrics were still supposed to continue. Is there any way to extend it?
This has happened to me several times. It's like the export didn't finish and stopped.
By “export a song”, do you mean the Suno created the song and the song suddenly stops?
If that’s the case, you can extend the song on the website from … > Create > Extend
Yes, that's right. The song ended even though it was supposed to continue and there are lyrics. I'm also having a terrible time changing the lyrics. It doesn't continue in the same rhythm at all, it adds weird sounds, says the wrong words and takes credits :/ I'm following the instructions exactly
If you'd like, you can send one of your recent generations & we can take a look at the prompts you're using for the song to see if that sheds any light on the matter 🙂
Will post here; I used one free v4 generation and still got shimmer, any info on progress? Heavy metal, Power
It would be great? maybe I do it correctly so I would love to do it right way, Where can I sen it ?
Here, or you can DM me if you'd prefer
Does anyone know how to extract the video subtitles as .srt files?
Can not send you a file in DM
My DMs are open, so there shouldn't be an issue on my end -- you can share the song here if you're having issues
0:28 tehre is a problem. I tried to replace a few words.
@cold zenith I don't think they're saved as a subtitle file -- I think it's built right into the video. I've used riverside.fm to generate subtitles previously -- https://riverside.fm/blog/how-to-create-an-srt-file
yeah but i want to extract it from the lyrics video for i can have the timestamp
The link I shared shows you how to take the lyrics video (or other songs) and turn them into .srt files (lyrics with associated timestamps)
@lethal pecan
From what I gather, there's 2 separate issues -- one being the song stopping at 3:14 when you expected it to go longer, the other being Replace Section not working as expected.
It's easier to understand any issues or how to approach the problem differently if we can see the suno.com/song link 🙏
And this song also finished unexpectedly. Early.
As I suspected, the song is created with a persona -- this contributes to the song being shorter.
When you create a persona, Suno seems to copy a small chunk of the original song so it knows what to make new songs sound like -- the length of that "context chunk of song" varies from persona to persona.
The length of this chunk is impacts how long the song can be -- while we don't have a way of seeing the length of these clips, I can infer that my persona "Boss Tones" uses a 14-second clip for context, meaning those songs have an upper limit of 3:46
Would anyone happen to know a setting/tool to use in Audacity to lower the volume of one track if another is playing?
While it would be very nice, not all generations in Suno "naturally resolve", from the website you can extend these clips https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2409601
Do you wish your songs had a different ending? You can make songs longer by using the Extend feature. Best of all, this can extend your maximum song l...
So do I understand correctly if I create a Persona then the song can only be as long as the first song from which the Persona was created?
And the mistake about replacing the section
I hear at 0:28 it sounds like "The record skips" -- yes? Are there other issues beyond the "audible seam"?
https://suno.com/song/35bec8b2-d15a-4003-b040-f30d7568bc20
Here again it changed the voice and the it return back to the original version
anyone ever had suno make a song where it repeats the same verse 3 times, then the second vers twice?
Not quite -- when you make a persona, it is like Suno listens to that song and makes a small recording of the part that it REALLY liked so it can listen to it again.
We can't see or hear what those personas thought "the good part" was, but if every song from that persona has a 3:14 limit, it means that persona recorded a clip that was 46 seconds long, taking away from the 4 minute maximum time.
shame it doesn't recognize the best spots for lyrics when you try to cover an instrumental track
Power Metal song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
I got some killer instrumentals for a song I wanted to revamp, but Suno just does not want to slot the lyrics in...
I'm going through Audacity.... but that's gonna ruin the ability to make it Public
Ok, and can you advise me how to replace a section? have I done something wrong ?
In the first track you shared, is the main issue that you can hear a "record skip" between the "replace section" and the rest of the song, or are there other issues?
Yeah, everything we present to Suno is a suggestion, and sometimes it just outright hallucinates. Usually it follows the lyrics better than that, so I'd definitely report as ... > Report > Bugs > Doesn't Follow Lyrics
ah alright, ive been reporting it each time it happens, bbut maybe not correctly
(its happened alot)
tbf, the reporting isn't likely to cause short-term results -- it's more a matter of giving data for the AI's pattern recognition, so it knows that whatever "choices were made" during that generation on it's part made some kind of error regarding lyric adherence.
Happened a lot with this particular song, or happened a lot across multiple songs?
ive been suspecting its the lyrics, but this song in particular. ive tried removing verses, changing lines ect
closest ive gotten to what i want is this
power metal, powerful bass song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
I've run into a lot of "quirks" where Suno just refuses to budge on something -- in the early days when the only feature we had was Extend, I found it incredibly helpful -- and still do!
If there's a track that starts off strong & sings the first verse well, create an extension point after that verse and extend from there to continue on with the second verse -- this way you keep the good parts and discard the rest, then you build on that success and only pick the extension that starts off the best -- survival of the fittest, Suno-style.
I find it's important to "get whole song" after finding extensions that I like to "lock everything in", this way the next extensions can hear the entire song, instead of only hearing the clip they're being extended from.
ah, ye its been a while since i tried using the extend function
I understand some prefer to make songs as "one-shot generations", but if creating with Suno starts to feel like a slot machine, it's not "wasting credits" to try a new approach, especially if it lets you improve on the previous attempts you've made.
All it takes is an introduction that captures your heart, and you can build on it piece by piece, only using the beginnings of extensions that you fall in love with, and "rerolling" a new extended generation off of it as soon as it starts to bore you -- it might be a more involved process, but it's a human-driven collaborative process, and at the end you'll be left with a song that NOBODY can tell you "isn't yours" -- by not just continuing from the end what Suno gives you, but rather consciously selecting the parts to keep and the parts to discard, you're making legitimate transformative efforts that are the foundation of artistic ownership, imo -- anyone can continue to click "extend" without care until the song is a certain length, but only you would have chosen the clips you did out of the mountain of options Suno provided you with, each subsequent editing step further cementing it as something uniquely "you". 🙂
thankyou for the advice, i'll apply it tomorrow and see if i get some results.
Hello Suno Team,
I’ve been experimenting with generating sounds that mimic animal roars, growls, and primal cries for a psytrance track. However, every time I try, the AI still produces something that sounds too human, even when using phonetic structures and excluding human vocals in the style settings.
I’ve tried different prompts, exclusions, and structured the lyrics field in various ways, but the result still leans towards human-like vocal textures.
Is there a way to influence the AI to generate more authentic animalistic sounds? Maybe specific keywords, settings, or adjustments I could make? If not, would it be possible to improve this feature in future updates?
Thanks in advance for any insights!
I find sound effects are fairly tricky to trigger, I’ll usually come across them by chance before being able to force one. I can’t even get an “ECG Flatlining” sound in my songs no matter how I write it. So I imagine a animal roar will have similar difficulty until a future model that comes out is able to handle special sounds and lyric instructions
Also btw, that song idea sounds awesome.
One issue is that suno seems to understand concepts. If your song is about a farm, it's possible suno will make a chicken cluck sound more than if your songs is about a spaceship.
So to get a ECG flatline, just using [beep] might get the response, but at the cost of having to write lines that indicate a life or death situation, or hospital setting.
Once we get a sound, if its not very generic, like [beep] or [buzz] then we may not be able to repeat it on command. It's in our bag of magic, but can't be used as a trick, at will.
At the cost of keeping the song out of "public" view, uploading sounds can be a work around. Finding spots in the song where it may work, crop off the beginning, write your song, then go under Replace to add an intro.
All this can be frustrating. Fun, once your done, but can be frustrating.
So it's a loaded question for many questions here about "how can I get this or that sound", when to get it might require a totally new song far from the one you're going for.
Flatline sound from song "Short Sleeved Shirt [Save Commander Adams]"
Why can’t get my song to sound sound more like a anime girl or it sounds good but I wanna change the voice up https://suno.com/song/06d750af-f141-493b-936a-55b1ff7a6be3
synth-pop, and indietronica
TOKYO VIBE PIANO ,LOFI ,CHIPTUNE,SYNTH WAVE CHILLSTEP emotional feel
,dreamy and slow song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
does it sound find? Or work on it
he definitely flatlined 😄 https://suno.com/song/1506896d-6ee7-4893-866a-7e70c4829391
TV Drama, Spoken Word, Audiobook, Narrator, Sound Effects, Sounds, Samples, SFX song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Hi, i have a problem with extend, in fact the music doesn't follow the lyrics I write from the beginning, it starts to follow the lyrics towards the middle or the end.
Do you have a solution for this?
I have question cant suno make the a song video so the lyrics be not so delayed
Many use "vocaloid" to get things started, but add in "anime" or even a specific animals girls name like Meiko.
But an easy way is just search the Hime page for " anime", listen to songs you like, copy the prompts, create a "dummy" song to get a vocal quality you like, then make a persona from that to have as your boilerplate vocal for your anime songs.
I'll be candid to say, many of the better anime sounds , without the robotic vibe of vocaloid, i hear in the Home page is just by using "anime" alone with no other prompt.
Or combine "anime, vocaloid" to get a more robotic sound.
Granted the prompts themselves may get you the song you like without making a persona.
It's important to use a good extension point. Mostly, I extend from the middle of a Verse or a Chorus. Listen closely at which point the lyrics start. Best not to choose something between two seconds. 😅
I hope you don't mind, I tried to see if covering the song with "vocaloid, kawaii" gave something different -- thought you might be interested in the result?
I forgot Kawaii.😉 yea. That one too. @brazen leaf
That's what I do, but I can't make the lyrics follow, maybe it's because of the type of music.
Are there any specific terms related to voice styles?
Noticed some consistent mispronunciations, e.g. breath always seems to sound like breathe
What style is it? You could just drop the link in a PM if you like.
you can always mis-spell it as "breth" if you want the short vowel
Bonjour, je n'arrive plus à me connecter avec mon numéro de téléphone. Quelqu'un peut m'aider?
Good idea may try it as a workaround but sounds like an error with the model.
Email support@suno.com
Unfortunately AI models can only do so much with phonetics. E.g. live (liv, he lived) vs. live (liev/lyev/etc., she is live on air).
In some languages, the issue is more pronounced. Such as with Chinese, where the AI swaps between Mandarin and Cantonese pronounciation, and same with Portuguese (Brazil vs. Portugal)
Thank you
when i try to generate songs it shows me this message + i have 2500 credits in my account
how did it work out
Sounds like it is a billing issue, please ensure your credit detail is correct and updated
Based on #🪲┃bugs-web message
i canceled it because i didn t want to pay no more
#🪲┃bugs-web message According to the support lead, it's a 90% chance of a past due payment
In this case, you will need to get in touch with billing@suno.com to resolve this issue
Are you not able to use the 2,500 credits that you paid for, or did you cancel your account & they showed up at the end of the billing cycle anyway, even though you'd cancelled?
Out of curiosity, did you cancel from the website or from the app? I've heard that the cancellation policies differ between them 🤔
Thanks for your response! Yeah, I had a feeling it was tricky to get specific sound effects to trigger properly. I guess we’ll have to wait and see if future updates improve that. In the meantime, I’ll keep testing—maybe we’ll find a way around it. Appreciate the insight 👍🏽
the cover thing works! sorta. you need to regen a bunch, but sometimes it messes it up and goes back to original lyrics, or voice, or both - but the great thing is you end up with interesting variations of the same/similar track which is excellent to do versions (for radio, for club, extended 12" mix etc) - it is not 100% perfect, but affirmative, using 'create cover song' is like remastering but allows you to play with vocals, lyrics, style, etc it is a creditmuncher, but does actually work ❤️ 🔥
also i had a few edits of the reggae timelord track when doing this, the vocalist swayed between jamaican, english and aussie accents. identity crisis haha was pretty funny here have a listen, https://suno.com/song/05ff66dc-a65d-424b-bee3-14dafe58f0a2 at about 35 when he says 'didnt realise its true, strange things happening to me' the AI overlords takes it too seriously hehe
reggae wubstep hint of glitch hop brostep reggae blues in E minor scale featuring a mysterious-sounding vibrato organ with key wobble stuttering and strong loud boosted wobble synth base-line growl song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Inspired by a recent conversation about how v4 extensions apparently sound horrible, and are a waste of credits (featuring 2 extensions) ;
https://suno.com/song/2322f892-089c-44a2-b569-3f730c9b694a
ska, indie math rock, tired, trumpet song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
and i am allergic to audacity since the hostile licensing takeover 😄
sorry for the derpy q, but what is a "v4 extension"?
https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2409601 "Extend" is one of the editing features in Suno
Do you wish your songs had a different ending? You can make songs longer by using the Extend feature. Best of all, this can extend your maximum song l...
ahhh right hehe i got ya
Yea! Let's blame the extension and not the starting points. 😄 'glad I missed that conversation.
yea i will start using that soon. too many of my tracks end abruptly. and i am somewhat irked by the fact that musicians are creating 4 minute ambient and classical symphonies haha heresy!!!
I thought I'd done a good job trying to help others as a user-advocate, but apparently I'm gaslighting people by daring to suggest that I personally have good results with extensions, and expressing offers to help others figure out why they're not finding similar success.

silliness
i wish we had folders. i have been collecting awesome sample/edits/versions where the AI starts improving and babbling halfway through a track, or repeating things and other creepy stuff like whispers or impromptu number 9 covers etc 🙂 its all very psychedelic and will probably be used at some point but i have like 20 creepypasta gens and i cant bring myself to trashing em 🙂 anyone else collecting these sorts of shenanigans? 🙂 someone needs to make a website or place where we can share the musical creepypasta
I just completed one with maybe 8 extensions... it's pretty clean. Certainly not overwhelmed with noise or shimmer.
lmao -- just noticed it says "I'll telling you" -- looks like I have reason to experiment with Replace Secton again 😛
My favorites! 
I was expecting at least ONE extension in the chain... 
its true tho. a couple of times i thought 'wow that is super clever. i dont recall anyone using that trick in a commercial track before...'
Stop lying and quietly inferring that nobody is having issues.
I refuse to investigate this matter further to figure out what we're doing different, I just know that I'm made to feel bad right now, so it's probably your fault. </s>
getting some interesting results with the 'stuttering' keyword
I never got the kinds of results with "glitch rewind" that I wanted until v4 -- I'll have to try "stuttering"
when the stuttering is syncopated with the rhythm. also i need to learn more producer terminology. it helps with other llms to specifically describe sounds or tracks or vocals 'accurately using expert-level musical terminology'
like i forget what its called when u press the single button on the rc505 and it keeps fractioning the beat making it faster making it easier for snuff "deejays" to build crescendos before the drop usually just with beats but with vocals and other elements its pretty fascinating
tbh -- while it can help, I'd argue that you're uniquely positioned in regards to Suno because not all of the "traditional" descriptors work "like commands" as we'd expect them to -- Suno seems largely to "vibe" with the prompts we give it, so "stuttering" is JUST as effective as whatever hoity-toity technically-accurate description means the same thing on some sheet music -- except your brain won't always click into the route-one "musically correct" terminology, so you're likely to have a creative approach to how you prompt for specific sounds
and on dAW doing manually would typically take a day or 2 to get 'just right'. i ❤️ suno ❤️
yea ive been watching the chats here past week and seeing the 'experts' complain about how they spent 5000 credits on just 1 track, and in 1 week i have 2 pretty rough but usable albums and 2 singles with many usable versions
so being an AI whisperer like Pliny the Prompter, definitely helps. most artists (musical or otherwise) are kind of 'scared' and havent really worked out how to 'use ai to their advantage' properly, yet. let it do the heavy lifting. its what its there for
Pliny the Elder, Pliny the Younger, and Pliny the Digital Millennial 😛 I don't know why a Pliny reference got me so good, I must be overtired or something ,because I'm laughing way harder than the joke deserved 🤣
Soon we're just gonna find Sunovators living in barrels down by the marketplace, writing songs for the dogs that they live with
Diogenes of Suno
It's cropped so you can't see -- I'm a sucker for an abrupt ending. (https://suno.com/song/a1862f82-40b9-47fa-aeec-fed73ea99f0f)
Hah. I forgot to check that. 😄
full version shared just above if you wanted to check the extension segments in Hipster -- also, editing the lyrics and re-aligning fixed "I'll telling you" to "I'm telling you" in a remaster 😄
I've been using 🧩 to mark my extension points
Oh. So everyone else can write a wall of text and I cant write 4 sentences. Sit and spin, Woody. Lol.
Reposted it for you. BTW, the cause of the deletion is that 3+ newline near the end
If this is how my posts get monitored, I don't need to white wash it. Just have seen full pages of text with no response. It's random because I used a comma in the wrong spot. Plllllttttt!! 🤪
Better pour doubles for this round of prune juice -- we're drinking to forget.
It deleted because i was showing proper grammar and literacy. Haha. WOODY prefers run on sentences and never ending paragraphs. Makes him feel youthful.
Sorry your account is messed up, dude. I have no idea.
tbf, I know we're being silly about it, but Woodhouse follows a simple set of instructions, one is to remove messages with a certain number of blank spaces or repeated characters -- all programmed & maintained by humans
Putting # is usually enough to get the message removed because that's the formatting for headline text -- even if you put a minus before it to create subtext, the error message they wrote warns that the text will be too big (even though it would be subtext)
Yea. I know. Better some get removed that slack up on the monitoring parameters. Just fun to whine a bit.
I'm all done. The prune gin is kicking in.
Well that stopped the room. Pour everyone a drink. Mead and music. Hazzah!! Everyone dance.
It snowed today. You wanna make a snowman. 🎶 Let it go... let it go.... 🎶
AI and v4.0 related ... as a technique comment, I did a bit of stuttering in my latest output . A sci Fi feel, episodic piece. "Short Sleeved Shirt (Save Commander Adams) " https://suno.com/song/8e7d406b-dad1-44d2-ade2-14887b4df41a
Understood, sometimes as with "live" there are multiple ways a word can sound depending on context, though in the case of breath i can't really think of any situation that would make it sound like it had that extra e.
But speaking of accents, is there any command to get certain accents? Sometimes you get American, somestimes British, sometimes somethign weird. Like, any way to get Scottish? Depending on the kind of music you are trying to create the wrong kind of accent can really ruin it.
I am currently making songs with Suno AI pro plan and uploading them to YouTube. Will this channel be monetized on YouTube and will there be any problem while monetizing?
Will there be any problems while monetizing?
https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2410177
Will my youtube channel be monetized?
You'd need to contact Youtube for details about Youtube's monetization system.https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/72857?hl=en Pretty sure unless you're using a distribution partner to work directly with Youtube Music, you'd a VERY popular account 👀
Yes! Well... let's talk about it. If you made your songs while subscribed to a Pro or Premier plan, those songs are covered by a commercial use li...
We’re expanding the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) to more creators with earlier access to fan funding and Shopping features. The expanded YouTube Partner Program is available to eligible creat
When I was using v3.x, it was easy to get accents by specifying the language and/or country in the style prompt (see https://suno.com/playlist/fdb7d04e-d2c7-4620-ab7d-e905f6a64dd1)
Since 4.0, I found it hard to get accents when using English lyrics for regions that predominantly do not use English (e.g. Japanese).
However, when I used the other regions native script (e.g. for JP, I tried with both Kanji and Romanji), it gave me a JP accent.
Repeating the language/country/region helped the odds (due to weighting)
Got Irish, it came up easily when I mentioned Celtic and Irish (look for the green thumbnails at https://suno.com/playlist/69d5c7c7-3a7d-492a-9aea-dbf461c4379c)
I just want to be sure that the song of Suno AI's pro plan is monetized on YouTube. Please someone help.
Look at the timestamp that the song was generated versus when you paid your membership, that is the easiest way we can prove it at the moment
Edit: I see harber already answered you above #📚┃suno-school message
Regenerate video
Keeps timing out
And my lyrics are correct but the song keeps getting out of sink with the lyrics which is what I’m trying to fix in the first place. I just don’t know what to do next.
Is there a way to create a "bridge" or create a transition from one Suno trac to another?
- Are you using a persona or cover?
- Do you have Suno logo appearing in some of your thumbnail?
Yep, use [bridge] or even tags like [pre-chorus]
At the moment, there is no way to fuse multiple tracks (aside from Extended tracks)
I mean i have track A and i have track B... other then a external editor is there a way to bridge those two songs?
if i could cut an ending from one song and insert it atr the beginning of another then let suno merge them that would be great
i don't understand
At the moment, there is no way to fuse multiple tracks (aside from Extended tracks) through Suno, but you certainly can with with DAWs.
Maybe take a portion of Song A and B, have an overlap in the middle where you want the bridge, and Replace that section then use that replaced portion to replace that region in the DAW
I just want to be sure that the songs in Suno AI's pro plan are monetized on YouTube or Not
Any songs created during a subscription plan is okay to monetize (they have commercial license applied).
If you extend from the free plan, that is NOT okay.
See #1294423389515284552 like https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2410177
If you still have trouble understanding (I know how hard English is), maybe ask someone at https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154780167047217233 or at #1154772025940922438 if you speak another language
Yes! Well... let's talk about it. If you made your songs while subscribed to a Pro or Premier plan, those songs are covered by a commercial use li...
For you, @charred merlin 😘 https://suno.com/song/98bc975b-5e3b-4cc2-9b2d-5f91295f0e90
emotive jazz swing in minor key, blues-infused with chromatic lines, syncopated brass stabs walking bass swung eighths, call-and-response phrasing dynamic crescendos and virtuosic scat improvisation song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
I wonder if you have a bad captcha flag then.
Try signing out, clear your cache, force close the browser (all three to make sure you are logged out), then sign back in.
If you still have an issue with a short track (and assuming you have plenty of lyrics) after that, contact @steady kelp (Community Manager) to look into your account
My channel is getting more than 80k impressions every day on YouTube.
And that's why I took the pro plan of suno ai. One question is if I upload a song with a cover image, will there be any problem in monetizing it?
If the cover image was generated via Suno, you will be fine, since you are given the ownership of it too as part of the Output.
If it was generated elsewhere, it depends on the license of that image generators, though most transfers you the right (so that you have the full liability)
Can you give me any tips so that I don't have any problem in YouTube monetization
operative word being liability
my middle name!
then again what isnt a liability these days :/
Easiest tip: do NOT commit copyright infringement.
In general, you need to have a license to cover other people songs, use sampled beats, etc. You can be sued for Copyright infringement for not having the appropriate license (like what happened to https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sony-wins-lawsuit-tiktok-trefuego-90mh-infringement-1234995433/)
For more information about these licenses, see https://dittomusic.com/en/blog/what-license-do-i-need-for-my-music/
But, even if you had a license, you cannot use copyrighted material in Suno because it is against Suno's Terms of Service
i think if u are in BRICS 'copyright' means something completely different, imho 😄
and they dont really care what the rest of the modern world agrees it means
True, copyright laws do differ in different jurisdiction, but there are international copyright treatise and big companies will definitely come after you if you make a lot over their samples
While, if you live in USA, the RIAA will come after you regardless because it is easy money for them if you commit their copyright violation. Most settle out of court
it's kind of gray-area on X with Elon and friends though, even though its USA - freedom of speech means freedom of content to a degree too, or something?
i dont know i am not from USA
discord is USA, right?
Sadly, money talks. Certain people famously stalls their lawsuits so the other party drops it because it gets too expensive when delaying it for years (or make useless lawsuits against other people to bankrupt them - see John Oliver SLAPP coverage).
And, even when sued, certain type of people refuse to pay and the court really doesn't go after them because they know that it will bite the judge in the butt for touching the rich class (or themselves)
Predominantly but I think you can make your discord server in other regions?
If you send a YouTube channel monetize, how will YouTube understand that the license of this song is owned by this channel and the song is not made by me, my face is not in the video, then how will it be monetized, if you explain a little.
personally i see as startups and lawsuits as a 'rite of passage' they all must go through - super impressed with Suno's legal staunchness ❤️ ❤️ gives me hope
If your videos are popular enough to make money, youtube will contact you 🙏
They usually will contact you if they need it proven. For YouTube Music, you need a distributor I think?
imho dont commit to anything. u never know - since suno states that any original work on the platform is owned by the artist, they may even do some monetisation schemes in the future that are fairer than Teh Googz 🙂 we dont know what has been said behind the closed doors of legal samurai
it would be quite easy to allow artists to use other artists tracks like the personas but with monetisation - easiest is crypto but yea thats a bad word at present. just focus on doing on what you love and dont worry about $$$
it could turn into a metahyper version of itunes meets spotify meets genAI. i'm miffed i cant use my own tracks on fb/insta videos yet 😄 things take time.
@ionic crescent if youtube (or anyone else) asks to see proof that you own the song and are allowed to monetize;
- (1) Find out the times that your songs were made (this shows on every song page)
- (2) Find out the times that you had an active account (this is emailed to you every month when you pay for a subscription)
- (3) Send this information to Youtube, along with https://suno.com/terms
pin dat shi
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How do I get it to make a faster BPM version, I tried putting 120bpm, 130, 140 and spelled out beats per minute all versions were fairly slow. Any way to make it adjust for speed, trying for specific bpm for workout related songs.
Honestly, trying to prompt for specific BPM is a crapshoot. It might be easier to take a song that you enjoy, manually set the BPM and reupload it back to Suno, as it'd have a MUCH easier time maintaining a provided tempo
Or using an Upload audio of the beat using a metronome for the BPM.
Suno AI does not understand <#> BPM.
You can influence by saying the tempo in the style prompt like: upbeat, uptempo, very fast, etc.
Or adding -core to the genre, like rapcore.
But Audio Upload is the best method.
What audio could I upload? Like a song I like which I wouldn't mind it being similar too? Or does it need to be a non copyrighted song?
Ideally, if there's a song that met your other criteria, just not the BPM, you could use that
always needs to be non-copyrighted, and something you made yourself, as that's one of the ToS we agree to the first time we go to upload a track 🙏
Oh, so make a song, I have lyrics, then upload it and say make this one faster as an example?
I have been using this in a browser then the android app, now have it on windows open as an app so I'll have to figure out how to upload but I'll see if this works. Thanks.
@charred merlin @hollow hare Sorry but do you have any channel that can monetize on YouTube so it can be completely dedicated and work well.
Official YouTube Help Center where you can find tips and tutorials on using YouTube and other answers to frequently asked questions.
This will link you to Youtube's help page regarding monetization -- Suno can help you make the song, ad we're happy to help with that, but it sounds like your questions are more related to Youtube account management 🙏
Lol😂 but sorry
Best of luck with your Youtube account 🙂
The reason I am asking so many questions is that Parday is sending 80k plus impressions on my YouTube channel, so I want this work to be something, so I am sorry for asking so many questions.
Making a quick video to show how you can do it 🙂
so one solution is to pump out as many BRICS covers as possible 🙂 you know... their beloved mais que nada and kalinka etc 😄
rip off one of them iconic bollywood jiingles etc
not that i would ever! nor ever suggest others do the same! 😢
@charred merlin That's so nice of you. Thank you.
Hi there, I would like to ask if the Replace Section functional ? I used this feature before and I found it not working now. Thanks.
Manually setting BPM with https://bandlab.com/studio
The cloud platform where musicians and fans create music, collaborate and engage with each other across the globe.
Ok so I need to make a shortened version of a song that is 2 minutes then after adjusting the bpm, I can then extend it with the remaining lyrics ? That sound about right?
Thank you. That's helpful. Let's see how it works out. Lol
It'll work better in some situations than others -- if there's existing vocals, they might end up stretched or squashed, but that's when I'd use https://bandlab.com/splitter to remove the vocals & stretch just the instruments, then attempt to add the vocals when I went to extend it (a lot of this is best done early in a song production before there's too much that could be lost by editing it -- we're just focusing on building the foundation for the rest of the song, at this point)
Im not really sure where to ask, but i have a 10dollar a month payment plan. It says i have 2500 crediits, but when i try to generate, it says u need more than 10 credits to make a song pleaser upgrade?
I hate saying it this way, but it's is functional the same a screw is function. When a screw works, it holds things together. But a screw can also pop out the other side, strip the material, or have it's head sheared off.
Replace is up and running. I used it twice today. Members who have been successful with Replace understand it takes a few preliminary steps and prep before running it to get the best results.
There are three tabs, edit lyrics, crop and Replace. The edit tab is used to review lyrics and make sure they are in current sync with the audio.
The more you use it the more you'll recognize the idiosyncracies ( repeating traits common to the tool).
I've gotten better at using it, but still have moments where it doesn't give me the results I want first few tries. But more than not, I get an accetable result within 10 or 15 tries at the most , 1 to 3 at the least.
#🪲┃bugs-web message According to the support lead, that means there's a 90% chance there's a payment listed as past due
Need to try it out some more.. gave up on the covers a while back - every time I tried, it gave me the exact same track.. Might just be me not understanding hiw it fully works.. Great with all the tips you provided 🎉
U were absolutely right. Thank you!
They note at the bottom of the #📢┃announcements message post that covers have been found to return the original -- it can be a really exciting way to hear an existing song reimagined in a different style, but it usually it take a number of generations before it changes the style 😅
There you have it.. Just me giving up to soon 😅
Hi All, I am new to Suno and in the process of Subcribing to the pro account. I needed to understand I use my songs for commercial monetization as the ToS is clear that all right remains with Suno. Do we have to send request to get "exclusive rights" for each song seperately?
Hey @potent hull -- https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1294423389515284552 has a lot of helpful information for educating one's self on the rights-side of things 💪
After checking that out, let us know if there's any follow-up questions!
And read further down the TOS for exceptions to that earlier for paid tier subscriber rights.
I have a complete song I love that I used multiple extensions to complete. But when I put it all together, one vocalist cut off anohter twice. I used the replace a section tool to correct one of them, but then the tool won't work when I use the new track and try to fix the other one.
https://suno.com/song/a057917a-5694-461a-bbf3-e1f9c0f3325d errors at 2:01-2:02 and 4:51
Dark, Ominous, Thash Metal, melodic elements, vocal harmony song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Yes I checked it and read it muliple times but still unclear about the ownership for commercialisation. It says we need to ask for ""expressly authorisation" and the content section says all output rights to Suno but doesn't explisitly give rights to creator as needed by Youtube and other platforms.
Can you share the link where you're reading that we need to ask for authorization? I'm happy to clarify, but it's helpful to know what content is leading to confusion, as https://help.suno.com should be a one-stop shop in terms of the foundational stuff (if not quite for best practices regarding making the songs, since that seems to vary between genres)
I'm having an issue where Suno isn't let me generate music. I have the Pro Membership and I have 2500 credits currently. Theres a system error that says I have to have at least 10 credits, and to upgrade my account.
Have you tried Remastering the song? I've spent LONG swaths of time trying to fix 1-2 second hiccups like that using Replace Section to fix a seam leftover from another Replace Section -- if you properly align the lyrics (making sure everything that's sung is written, with nothing else, the remaster seems to do a good job smoothing over those hiccups
#🪲┃bugs-web message According the support lead, this likely means there's a payment listed as past due 🙏
can't be i still have my account paid until Feb 9th
Can you remaster a song already in v4? Will it change the sound?
suno,com/terms - Knowledge base clarifies it but the terms are saying the opposite.(commercial use and content paragraph on terms page complying no ownership to creator.
🤷♂️ I'm just going by what the support lead has commented -- he said that's the case 90% of the time people receive that message -- you'd need to contact billin@suno.com if you require assistance with billing/account related matters 🙏
thank you
ill contact them
Yes, you can remaster v4 songs, you can even remaster "remastered" tracks -- it keeps the structure the same, but applies a reimagined EQ & perhaps some artistic liberty to the melody
Pretty sure suno.com/terms says that they waive their rights, titles & interest in the songs you create as long as you've made them on a paid plan.
They expressly give permission for paid members, as stated later in the ToS.
We know that ownership of your material is important, and it's helpful to know exactly where you stand before you take the next steps with your songs!...
not int he terms of service.. it only says that in knowledge base - which is contradictory to the language of the terms
YES, it's written in the terms of service.
If you're going to cite legal documentation, it's very important to be familiar with the full body of the text -- otherwise https://help.suno.com is a curated version to give the answers you're looking for.
It's also the official documentation -- so if they've made a mistake and published wrong information, you can pretend you never read the full ToS and just go by what the kbase tells you 🙏
thank you again. that was 100% my issue
If you want a video overview of the TOS, Top Music Attorney did a brief walk through of it. Link at #📚┃suno-school message
At around 08:10, she covers the Output's ownership is given to the paid members.
https://youtu.be/HlGIxLH1K-M?t=8m10s
In this episode of the Top Music Attorney Podcast, Entertainment Attorney, Miss Krystle breaks down Suno's Terms of Service, focusing on the rights you give up and retain when using the platform. They explain how uploading content grants Suno broad licensing rights, including the ability to sublicense and distribute your creations. Miss Krystle ...
Look I loved Suno and eager to subcribe. Can you help email the transcription of the terms and confirming the ownership and commercial rights to me so I can keep it for reference to share with any 3rd party like youtube in case if asked. Can I use the screen shot pdf as proof along with the bill of purchase of plan. I'll go for the yearly plan once ready.
I've already seen her video last week and that is why I had raised this query and request for email confirmation
The terms of service can be accessed at https://suno.com/terms
If you need a walk through of the TOS, see TMA video linked by me above
We are building a future where anyone can make great music. No instrument needed, just imagination. From your mind to music.
I asked this generator
https://chatgpt.com/g/g-y2J4bAO8A-ai-music-prompt-generator
to give a prompt for the band motorjesus:
[This song embodies the high-energy, hard-hitting rock and roll spirit of Motorjesus, blending elements of heavy metal and classic rock, characterized by powerful guitar riffs, driving drum beats, and gritty, anthemic vocals, it captures a raw, unpolished sound with a modern edge, designed to evoke the thrill of the open road, adrenaline-pumping intensity, and rebellious attitude, perfect for headbanging and air-guitar moments.]
I did put it into the lyric box like with other times too:
Then I got a red message - prompt flagged for review
Whats the issue?
Generate Styles & Lyrics(with metatags ) for SunoAi, Udio.....
ftr -- we're all users here, helping each other out 🙏
#📚┃suno-school message If you ever get asked to prove that you own the songs you're sharing, this is what you need to do -- beyond that, sign up and have fun creating 🙂
Probably using the name of an existing artist -- Suno doesn't want people outright copying other artists
Yeah, I doubt Suno AI will do well parsing through all of that very well (but it will get some of it).
Since the lyrics moderator is ChatGPT itself, ask what is wrong with that prompt because I do not see any issue at first glance, other than what theharber mentioned, the mention of Motorjesus
still not working, but the message changed into
cant generate that
hmm apparently something about the lyrics. But I dont understand what was wrong with it
I mean there was nothing bad in it, I dont understand
who else has a problem with downloading wav? or only me?
what exactly is the prompt now? and how are you trying to generate - from scratch or off a creation that failed? Well, any mention of specific people in lyrics?
No trouble here
Thanks so much. The remaster actually fixed the problem itself without having to go back into "replace a section." So glad to have my song fixed!
I did put in that style thing and then lyrics from scratch, and god knows what, but apparently it didnt like the main lyrics
If you'd like, you can share the lyrics / style prompts here or in a DM?
Or maybe you could try generating a song with just the first half and seeing if you get the same errors, as a means of isolating which section is getting it blocked?
you probably wont understand them, its german
Scheiße.
this word is in it, but it wasnt a problem on other songs
so I have no idea what the issue is. the rest is absolutely no evil words at all
Lumine's suggestion of asking ChatGPT what the issue is would likely be the best option -- "these lyrics are being blocked by an overprotective automoderation system, can you help me rewrite any potentially responsible sections?"
(oh, I wasn't meaning that word would cause it to be blocked, I was cursing that my straightforward approach failed 😛 )
Hmm.. can you give any specifics? or just follow the instuction of @charred merlin
maybe just clear it all and start over. Sometimes the prompt is also just to much prose.
ok new personal challenge. i think this may be more difficult than jamaican accent.... how to get aussie accent accidentally on purpose? 🤣 that 'see you on the next wave, mate!" at the end sounds sooooo white-murican and yea, nah! https://suno.com/song/2be10458-ecc9-4cdf-9e8c-619e66638e8c
surf rock with bright major-key harmonies, tight four-part vocal textures, a steady rock shuffle rhythm, 12-bar blues progression, and shimmering Fender reverb-drenched guitar leads. song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
hmm, i think i may have an idea 💡
yep, it does it perfect.
well, not perfect. but i dont think even aussies get their own accent right 😄
is there a guide for syntax. I want to know if there's a difference between like, tech house, tech, house, [tech house]
do those phrases prompt differently
i imagine there's a guide explaining what (if any) punctuation gets picked up
You will want to look into tokenization.
If you want to get an idea of how your terms may be getting tokenized (in order to use partial tokens for your styles instead of full words, which can have some pretty interesting focus), see #💬┃general-chat message
anyone knows why V3 doesnt work ?
You can send a screenshot here btw
(which is why I suggested it 😄 )
got this evrytime
hmm
when i try to generate
i assume refreshing isn't fixing it
Ah... Are you making a song with lyrics?
yes
Switch to v3.5 and then back to v3
okay
v3 doesn't support as many characters
oooooh
ah
sometimes the page bugs out and shows the v3.5 limit
under 1000 character in V3
yeah i remember i somehow managed to add more prompts to styles than the character limit before with same result
does anyone know how to get official document licensing for the song that u make on Suno? This is needed to be able to monetize it on soundcloud.
There is no licensing as you , as a paid subscriber, own the rights to your outputs. (You can't license to yourself 😁) The only agreement granting those rights is the Terms of Service.
okay so if soundcloud asks for proof that it is my song, i should give them the terms of services from suno?
I don't know. I have not read what SoundCloud requires. What has SoundCloud requested?
if i try to monetize the song, i need to add documentation
i tried to monetize it without documentation, but they get rejected
why is the music world so weird (laugh), you write a song but you need documentation to make money off it
Thank you. I just tried again and found the Replace function works now as you said. 🙂
Ok. What are they requiring? Any specific wording? A fixed copyright documentation? A copy of your written lyrics? A mechanical license to do a cover? What are they asking for.
could it be this? https://github.com/suno-ai/bark/blob/main/LICENSE
Please note that SoundCloud monetization program currently does not accept AI music
https://artists.soundcloud.com/terms
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If they permit you to send the TOS, alone. Try that. I would assume then, as the TOS has no agreement date, you would need proof of date of subscription and proof of current status. What do you think?
on soundcloud they ask for = Documentation that should be submitted includes: remix agreements, feature artist gareements, cover license, beat license, sample cleaances
This is a paragraph as part of the whole TOS which might interest you.
allright thank you
but i see now that ai music is not allowed to get monetized on soundcloud
Yes? Really? Well, it's good to stay on top of all the news and changes.
You're a professional now if you're going to monetize your work. As you are monetizing, that makes you a professional which comes with the responsibilities to learn as much possible about all legal issues, tax implications, and contracts you may encounter, saving all documents, keeping files and proof along the way of your creations. It's a lot of responsibility.
Just to point out, that's appears to be a repository license notice , for the code used in Github.
Again, you own your output if a paid subscriber, so there would be no licensing. You would just have to show show how you obtained ownership if you didn't just record the song in your studio.
If a recording studio recorded a karaoke track and you recorded your voice over it to monetize on a streaming service, for instance, you would need to provide an agreement from the studio that they were "work-for-hire" and that YOU have exclusive rights to the music part of your song.
There's no documents needed if you write your own song: lyrics, music, melody. Just record it yourself, file a copyright to help protect you.
Send your radio-ready recording into a distributor and you're on your way.
Yay! 😃
This is example of a refund of output less than 8 seconds.
What platform is this, if I may know? 🙏
Platform? Those two say ver 3.5, if that helps
Oh.... it's using a browser (website format)
Русский язык можно включить?
Вы можете написать текст на кириллице/русском языке, и он будет петь на русском (хотя могут возникнуть проблемы с произношением, и потребуется фонетическая транскрипция).
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You can write the lyrics in Cyrillic/Russian and it will sing it in Russian (though it might have issues with pronounciation and will need phonetics spelling)
Я имею в виду чат?! В программе я почти разобрался.
В программе я уже в основном разобрался. Чат можно переключить на Русский язык ?
https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422
(Найдено в/Found in #1154772025940922438)
Там не интересно
Большинство каналов на английском, так что альтернатив особо нет. Может быть, удастся найти русскоязычный сервер Suno или AI Discord где-то еще?
Most channels are English so not much you can do as an alternative. Maybe you can find a Russian Suno or AI Discord server elsewhere?
Сколько ж там мата и негатива. Такое чувство что в грязь попал! )) и бестолковая болтовня
А вы разбираетесь хорошо в программе suno?
I don’t make Suno songs, but my partner does.
I’ve noticed with the recent version update, there‘s some audio artifacts in the generations. Anyone else noticed it?
V4 is wonderful but: still chimering crystalized notes, doesn't follow instructions and still making mess at 2mn, it's not all the times, but the songs generated are more raw then V3.5, i still asking when we could have seeds of a generate song to change lyrics but keep the mean style OR change one thing i prompt and keep the style, personnas won't work
How do I contact Devs? They are not responding to emails. If someone will answer me, please notify with @ . I'm not excited about this Discord (the App itself).
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Does anyone know with a free Suno account if you should be able to access any song you've ever made? It looks like i only can see songs that i've made in the last week or so and have lost access to songs older than that.
They should all be on your library
There’s a next page arrow > on the middle right-ish of the screen to see older ones
thabnks somecoffeemug
next to upload audio
Someone please help
I can not get this stupid thing to sing in a chorus for the whole song and not repeat verses constantly
I just want to make a national anthem for my damn faction in Dayz this has taken A MONTH
someone please help me get a chorus to stop repeating bull****
Have you tried using extend to force a chorus?
I usually go to where I want a song to have a chorus then put only the chorus section in the lyrics then extend normally that works
I would like to report at bug or issue tthat when I enter "Ghazal" in Music style when generating Music, i get response that it is the name of an artist. "Ghazal" is a whole type of Music in Urdu in Indian Music industry. You can try searching or youtube or Google.
Please help me understand. I can't upload an audio file to Suno. I was able to upload it before.
Please report this to #🪲┃bugs-web
Hey Everyone !
I'm new here !
can anyone plzz tell me how to generate music by running the codes and py files provied by suno-ai in the bark repository..? From GITHUB
Potential causes:
- You are trying to upload copyrighted material (both illegal and against Suno TOS)
- Not an extension Suno can understand (wav, mp3, and mp4 are pretty much guaranteed to work. Unsure about other formats like flac, ogg, etc.)
- Ensure you are in the time limit 6–60 sec (to 120 sec if you are a subscriber)
You cannot. Bark is the text-to-speech system that Suno AI open sourced, it is not the Music AI (https://suno.com, model formally known as Chirp).
The Music AI source is closed source
There are three other open source Music AI projects on GitHub, let me know if you want to know what they are
I'm using github vscode for it..
Yup !! I want to know about them..
But in readme it says..
Bark is a transformer-based text-to-audio model created by Suno. Bark can generate highly realistic, multilingual speech as well as other audio - including music, background noise and simple sound effects.
Open source Music AI
- Stability AI's Stable Audio Open:
- https://github.com/Stability-AI/stable-audio-open-demo
- https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-audio-open-1.0
- https://stability.ai/news/introducing-stable-audio-open
- Meta's AudioCraft:
- https://github.com/facebookresearch/audiocraft
- https://ai.meta.com/resources/models-and-libraries/audiocraft/
- Microsoft's Muzic
Yep, it can be used to make speech that can fit into music, but Bark is only the TTS aspect. You will have to transform it to make it suitable for singing/music (which the Open source does not explicitly have a pipeline for iirc)
Okay..Thank u very much providing the info and helping me.. 🙂
Lately I've been unable to upload the tunes I like to Suno.
It takes 30 minutes to download, but then I get a message -Error different
please correct this error.
Hmm, I don't think I have ever seen that before.
I tried uploading just now and had no issues. Try using another browser if you do notnhave any of these issues: #📚┃suno-school message
If it still does not work, DM me the music and I will try on my side
Hello everyone, I was catching up on the FAQ: Lyrics section left me with an uncertain questions. So if you write your own lyrics and then you use the A.I. which mixes your lyics up a bit and adds some A.I. so how would that work with Intellectual property with lyrics? Also, i use this for fun and have not thought about commercializing the music until i read about this. SUNO in basic account usage takes everything per se and waits for you to upgrade then you take control up-to you being able to commercialize your music? Did i miss anything ?
Copyright/IP does not look at one whole aspect, it is broken up.
So when registering copyright with your government Intellectual Property Office (e g. US Copyright Office), you will need to define each part as needed, such as:
- Lyricst
- Singer
- Composer
- Instrumentalists
Etc.
Any songs made during the free plan CANNOT be used commercially, even if you have a subscription afterwards (e.g. it is not retroactive; you cannot commercialize the songs extended during a sub, when the first part was generated during the free plan, as it is a derivative of the first which solely belongs to Suno [and likely has an inaudible watermark designation it as a free song in that part]; etc.)
If you want to obtain a commercial license for a song you made during the free plan, you will need to contact support@suno.com after you have a subscription l. They are often good at that and will likely give you a written (thus documentable) permission to extend the license retroactively.
For more info on rights, please see #1294423389515284552
Be sure to read up the TOS too (https://suno.com/terms). If you want a video overview of the TOS, Top Music Attorney did a brief walk through of it. Link at #📚┃suno-school message
Oh, before I forget, you cannot copyright AI Outputs in USA at the moment. So your lyrics can be protected but the AI output as-is will not be.
Here are the precedences as to why not: #📚┃suno-school message
Latest news regarding this situation: https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/artist-sues-after-us-rejects-copyright-ai-generated-image-2024-09-26/
The more this is discussed the better it is understood. I learned something new about the changes with A.I. I get it. So let me ask you so you have an option to download mp3 files can you upload that to share your work / projects for people to listen to per se or would you recommend better off with the Share Link?Thanks in advance.
If you are overzealous about protecting your work, you are much better downloading the mp3/mp4 and uploading it elsewhere like YouTube if you want to share (this will prove you uploaded it first and, by keeping your suno link hidden, can be used to dispute any copyright claimer as a form of proof).
If you are planning to distribute:
- Remember that only songs created during the subscription period is yours forever. So extending a free plan song is a no go.
- NEVER share your MP3/Suno link until the song is successfully distributed. There are autodownloading (and some distributes) bots lurking on Suno and even on this Discord
- Write your lyrics in Google Docs or the like where a third party can show the timestamp of your creation in case it is ever needed
- Keep records. Have a PDF of Suno TOS, records of your membership, track your Suno URLs in an Excel (and would not hurt to save the webpage along with the WAV/MP3), etc. If it is ever needed in the future
Got it. I got pretty much almost all covered. No distribution yet. I do want to upgrade to Annual Membership. SUNO is amazing saves me hours of work in the DAW and now seeing how the song structure is done in SUNO helps me greatly writing lyrics or the science of story telling is the way i understand it better.
Some of the stuff I learned was due to Top Music Attorney videos... though I cannot watch them all over again, too much lol
Now you know how to make music then watch them law videos later. You know enough to navigate safely. See ya. thanks. Take care.
Don't mind the title/thumbnails of hers, so clickbaity
Yes only this issue happens to me all the time I try to replace the section.
This happens in a number of Replace Sections that I do -- I find the easiest way to "repair" them is to correct the lyrics (which "aligns" them to the lyrics being sung), then remastering the track.
Unfortunately it can be a frustrating experience trying to fix these "record skips" with another Replace Section, so I find this to be the most effective manner. (this isn't my preferred method, as sometimes I'd prefer the original "mastering" and don't care to "reimagine" certain aspects, but this is the most direct method that we have atm)
you mean just change the lyrics without "replace section" and remaster it?
Close — after you use “replace section” and you can clearly hear where the new clip was added, you can use “Remaster” to smooth everything over
Separately, one of the ways to make sure Remaster works as well as it can is to make sure the lyrics match exactly what’s being sung
Is there any prompt I can use to force the "recreate section" to not change the chord progressions? I only want the lyrics to change
Wasting credits like crazy and not getting anything close to the originals chord progression
Anyone here having success forcing key changes with v4? I tried [key change], also [modulation], but those did nothing.
Any way to get heavily autotuned mumble rap?
are there any prompt to get better vocals?
the vocals in my songs always sound so raspy and weird, and sometimes even goes off tempo or offkey especially when the song is extended
it mostly happens on rock songs too
I may be just not understanding which is the "recreate section" : Covers? Remaster? Replace lyrics?
I think remaster might add some sus 4s and a diminished chord here and there that were not heard before. But I don't hear too much chord progressions changes-- maybe from Covers.
Which do you mean again?
Many people put "clear vocals" in their styles. So its popular enough to might work. Who knows.
i actually want the opposite of that. I want mine to be slurred and mumbled
autotuned voice, vocoder, digital voice, digitized voice, ghetto, emo rap have brought out the autotune in some genres for me
Yea. A nice Tom Wait, Joplin, Dillon, or as you say, just a slurred or mumbled one would be an interesting persona.
Something like Future or Young Thug
sometimes putting more information throughout the song in brackets with each section of the song will enforce it more:
[verse 1 (autotuned vocals, mumble rap, digitized)]
you might consider writing the words incorrectly or how they would actually sound mumbled instead of the actual words too
I'm using the "recreate section" option on a remaster. The remaster has an excellent chord progression but the lyrics are all wrong. When I try to change the lyrics it works fine, but it also changes the chord progression to something different. I'm not sure how to explain it.
It's a bridge with the wrong lyrics, but when I change the lyrics it also changes the bridge chord progression to the chorus progression, whioch I don't want it to do.... I hope I'm making sense haha
Hold on. I'm looking for Recreate in Suno... I'm lost a bit.
yes 🙂
Ok, Im gonna try
there's a gh?! naice! tyvm
so in the [style] lyrics section? that is the first key change ive heard since joining. GREAT WORK! 🔥 👌 still not sure what broadway has to do with it hehe but i will have a play around! thanks
You can try also in the lyrics as a metatag, yea. But I put in the styles prompts (genres) box for a total song influence. Hey, in styles at the right point might even work better, that I don't know. As you see in the example, "broadway" was the first prompt, so the whole thing sounds like a song on stage. I would not go that far, in your case - im sure your genre is different.
But suno pulls characteristics from songs which are similar to each other and calls that a style. So, if most deathbmetal songs, metal song, acid rock, ballads, folk, pop, easy listening, soft rock songs, bee bop songs from 1965 to 1985 faded out at the end, then putting "70s songs" in your prompts might influence it better than putting "fade out" in your lyrics..... or Since Broadway music has ALWAYS used modulation as a song characteristic putting "broadway" in your prompt list might nudge it to modulate than trying "modulation" or "chord change".
Don't forget, you can change both style prompts and metatags into each extension you do, to try to change it up from the previous parts. If you do, I might say, dont do Get Whole Song , before that special extension, so it may only read traits from the previous extension.
How do you get notified when someone publishes a new song? To follow one apparently isn't enough. Have I been Sunoing it wrong?
Ive wondered that too. Why follow me if you don't know. 🤔
Exactly! But I can't find any option for that.
https://fetchrss.com or similar may work that way u can get rss/atom into your email/notifications on yuor phone or wahtever you want to do with the rss
i tried isolating the submit form for the 'top' vs. 'new' selector, but the flex scripts/code is above my paygrade
afaik, that's only available through the "Following" section of the homepage
Ah, found it! Is it available in RSS?
I'm sure someone could figure something out, but I'm not sure it's set up for that atm
Thanks! "Something" could be only web scraping. That's unreliable. 😦
whoever has some py skills and working hands, add it to https://rss-bridge.org/bridge01/ for the rest of us 😄
RSS-Bridge
how do you think LLMs work to make your tunes? 😄
books1, books2, books3 and books4 😄 and i can only guess but at least one of those 'books' was archive.org
maybe can even get umm o1 model to write the script for us
just make sure you get mod/dev permission first
there may be good reasons why it doesnt do it
someoe i think lumi mentioned github earlier, and there are a bunch of APIs for suno there that look a bit... "shady"...
I have no idea how do you use a SaaS RSS scraper with your own Suno login. I wouldn't.
how do you think LLMs work to make your tunes? 😄
I don't understand why normal questions cause "🤣" reactions, but one thing I'm sure is LLMs don't work by scraping web pages under user's login. If this was a question, this may help: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZHQObOWTQDNU6R1_67000Dx_ZCJB-3pi
my bad - did not mean to antagonise was not laughing at you but with you, apologies
No biggie, don't worry.
Ah, not at all, that's entirely different. Scraping Web pages relies on their current structure to the large degree. There are heuristics that permit certain deviations, but Suno (and, generally, any website) may change as often and radically as they want.
thanks im still learning. i was going by this guy's incorrect 3hr-long assertion if you are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQTXv5jm6s4t=5017s
from my understanding tokenisation literally means processing smaller and higher definition/time-sensitive chunks
and associations, and making inferences and in-context learning/training
Have a question. How can I remove a Personas from my Personas list? Without deleting the song that it was made from
i deleted them but the persona sticks to the song it was made with - so i renamed persona to 'not used' or whatever, and in the bio put that it was no longer needed/used
This is my situation I used a Personas to create a song and the song that was created sounded much better Then the Personas it was used from. So what I was trying to do the new song I wanted to make a Personas out of it, but it won't let me because it was made from one already. Sadly, I was trying to trick it.
Yeah, but will it let you change the lyrics
yes!
Hmmm.
but its like playing d&d sometimes u make the saving throw, sometimes suno is argumentative
roll that 1d20
Open up the persona page & click the 3-dot interaction menu from the top right of the screen to trash it
Right
I seen that, but I thought it was trashing the whole song
Don't do it from the song page, do it from the persona page
Gotcha
I deleted it. Only thing the song that I made from it. Still, won't let me add it as a Personas because it was already made from one I guess
try making a cover and changing lyrics and use the thumbs up and down with multiple runs until it sounds more and more like you want (right voice or lyrics) it still remembers 2 mins of the original track as someone else mentioned earlier
https://suno.com/song/1192f167-2427-430c-b1ff-6726271751d3 was made with anonymous coward persona
but it hallucinated the dr. who theme song synth lead (kind of)
and it was not in jkamaican accent
eeventuiall;y it turned into this https://suno.com/song/945c3413-b1d5-414d-8e2f-4066dae533be
I don't know if his assertion is correct or not. The "script and bibliography" link under the video sends you to the script of a 3-hour-long video with some links at the end, but there are no in-line references, so it's unusable, there is no way to find from which, if any, "bibliographic reference" his statement is taken. It scares me that this 3-hour-long lecture without useful references gathered 1 million views. 3 million hours is over 913 years. Wasted.
there is always someone on the internet that knows more than me! (or you or that guy!) its a big place , the clouds hold many secrets
mamy of which cannot be proven or spoken aloud
... > Edit > Crop Song- Select the entire song & crop (this creates a duplicate track)
- Make a persona based on that one
...which doesn't make them true.
or untrue. thats where common-senses kicks in for me
No, this is not how knowledge works. You cannot be ambivalent about "true" and "untrue". Outside of maths, there are only "probably true" and "truth value unknown" statements.
Maybe 😄
right at the end of the 'script' are the references. true you need to scroll ALLLLL the way to the end, but others have done some research on it. i am not sure what you are arguing but im not a good arguer 😄 so i apologised and repeatedly trying to bow out of the conversation im not sure what more you want me to say or do? you want me to have your degree of certainty about everything? i cant. https://www.wired.com/story/battle-over-books3/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/08/books3-ai-meta-llama-pirated-books/675063/ sure it doesnt make it true and i already agreed with you. where to from here?
I just remastered the song and then use that remaster As a personas it worked
Depends on what you stuff into your only mind. If you don't maintain the proper mental hygiene, maybe "maybe". Otherwise, no.
anyways this is really offtopic
legend!
There are no inline references, like "[42]", for an arbitrary value of 42. There is a long list of references at the end, some are to more-or-less trusted sources, but no indication from which of those his statements are extracted. It's as good as providing none at all. References to books lack page numbers. Of the rest, only two are to IEEE, and those are not papers. Of the rest, there is a spectrum of "references" from The Atlantic to China Morning Post.
This is a total embrace of complete, unrestricted relativism : science provides as true truth as the Amazonian shaman. No, I won't subscribe to that, but go ahead, if you prefer it.
Science is definitely more reliable than some shaman smoking a blunt 😁
The Suno Android app does not have a download function (just other basic functions). To download, you must use the webapp https://suno.com
Thanks!
Has anyone had their songs disappear? Listened to it a few times, then it just vanished. The second version is still there. Link shows Untitled empty page.
VLC announces using AI to create subtitles for videos. This might be helpful for captioning songs as well. Keep on the look out.
is possible to set, that it will create only 1 song at the time instead of 2 ?
I've created a song that I'm really happy with... But there is one word that it mispronounced and it's really bugging me... I try to recreate the section, and it get the word right but totally changes the melody! Oh why can't there be an option to keep the same melody and singing 😡
https://suno.com/song/c8482e61-a322-4938-b222-1364c79ab715
This song... It misses out the "t" on "apprentice". Argh
Sad, alternative rock, deep female singer, heart beat, piano, melodic. song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
This so worked! And got the sound i wanted on new song 🤟🏻
Are you looking at it through the Create page? Any downvoted piece will be hidden from Create (but will appear in the Library unless you trashed it. You can restore from the trash can unless you perm. delete it)
It's not in the Library and not in Trash. I liked it, and the like is still visible on the empty page. It coincided with getting 500 songs email. Opened the email, went back to Suno, noticed that mp3/wav options were still spinning, reloaded page, and the song was gone. Quite strange. Emailed the support, maybe I'll hear back.
That's pretty cool. I think it can run locally and translate into different languages too. I used to use Capcut to generate lyrics subtitle but the quality is not that good.
Nope, I have a bunch of those that failed to generate and show "Credits Refunded". The one in question was complete, I listened to it several times in full and it was good.
Yeah, likely a technical glitch of some sorts, idk.
do someone have a solution ?
#🪲┃bugs-web message According to the support lead, this indicates a billing issue 90% of the time, like the payment didn't go through or the card info is wrong
so i didn t use the application for 8month, but i have to pay 8month to renew my subscriptions ?
Nope -- billing@suno.com is the official contact for billing/account related issues 🙏
it s what i understand
Just check your bank or card services.
- make sure the payment cleared/debited first, from your bank account .
- if it cleared bank AND it has been less than 48 hours, it may not have processed through Stripe, the payment company, then it goes to Suno.
- check email for a receipt that your account renewed this month, so that your subscription is active.
there was a payement prob for 8 month, but i didn t know bc i didn t use suno, and if i want to re use , i have to pay for these 8 month ?
No.
☝️ This is the quote for the support lead on the matter saying what to do.
Dasvon gave some steps to try, but if there's still an issue beyond that, you'd need to contact billing@suno.com
Like Mike B said, you'd likely need to cancel the subscription entirely -- what happens when you click "Cancel Subscription"?
Ah, looks like it's set to cancel on feb 8th -- just to clear any confusion, if you clicked on "renew subscription", was it asking you to pay for 8 months all at once?
yes
that s sad that i have to wait 1 month x)
Holy hell -- can you screenshot the part where it asks you to pay for 8 months at once?
This says $10 per month moving forward, not a bill for the months you didn't use
"payer le montant du" is "pay all u have to"
That says cancel date is Feb 8th? Not 8 months payment needed. Do I read it wrong?
the blue button say it
Please show the total, if you believe this to be a request for $80 -- this says nothing about $10 x 8 months.
"payer le montant du"
Numbers, please.
Please point to the number $80, or anything on-screen that indicates that you're paying more than $10 per month.
Blue button says "Pay what you owe" for Jan 8th to Feb 8th... thats $10.
White button says "Cancel subscription"?
You are suspended in limbo until the Jan 8th bill is paid, and this will open your 2500 credits until Feb 8th. Then you automatically cancel pro subscription and should be dropped to a free subscription.
All this is my best guess.
I see that they're listed as "action required", though to be fair, if you were seeing a screen that showed a subtotal of $80 when you clicked the Blue "payer le montant du", we were only privy to what was being shown on screen.
"Pay the amount due" could just as easily mean "the month that you're subscribing for".
I'm surprised. Does it just do that automatically if you dont cancel. STRIPE doesn't cancel the payment after 29 days?
I would guess it's just Stripe protocol, but it makes sense you have to then cancel the subscription and it expired, before restarting. Else it keeps it active and "virtually" adds each payment due as if we have been using the service.
I better put in my will to check my suno account if I die.
Oh good. It only requires payment for 1 month. Yay!
I really appreciate that you followed up with the results -- genuinely helpful 🙏 🍻
Please let us know if you still get that error message when you're trying to create a song -- technically, all should be good, but I have a pit in my stomach because I know how annoying & complicated account/billing stuff can be sometimes.
To be candid, I've been clicking cancel each month after paying, so I'll automatically go to Basic if I miss the payment, but then click renew just before the 14th. 😇
Do the developers respond to anyone by email? Wrote to both support and billing. How long shall we waitt?
Not sure what the wait time is at the moment, it was around a week last I checked.
i want a song with female voice, but after one hour it keeps creating a male voice, I gave it the prompt and nothing changes. Any advice?
tehehe ❤️ yarrrrrrr
when i extended a song they extended only 1 minute.. the text is longer than 1 minute.. what happens? -.-
Prepare to the shimmer too
I remastered my album before the shimmer problem
Now it’s impossible, every 3.5 song has the highs in the second part of the song that crush my head
also never extendet with version 4
I got a Persona problem and am not sure if it just is like that. I changed the lyrics a little, used the persona from the track i liked. Result is the same track, as i want it, but when it comes to the changed lines, it´s gibberish from the original track i made the persona of and the new ones. Is this just how it is or is there a way to avoid?
Took them a couple of weeks to respond to me last time, but to be fair I sent a request just before the christmas holiday.
hey guys, i am trying to make a song that will look like unforgiven or nothing else matters, but with the prompt ballade, it gives me a cowboy country song, and if i say power ballade which is what those song from metallica are the genre, it give me some Power Euro Metal, if i write slow metal, it gives me heavy metal song... anyone knows how to make a slow song that is also a metal song?
when that happen, you will need to start a new extend again,, but report this problem, sometime, the systems takes a bit too much liberty like in a four minute song, it will repeat 2 bridge 2 time even if its written only once in your text, or like your problem, will cut sentences from your text... the extend is suppose to work like this.. first extend is max 2min... and if i remember the second extend is max 1 minute.. so youll have to use more points this way... which is sad when the first beat is awesome and the extend scrapp the rest of the song lol
i noticed that the songs in V4 sometimes there is alot of scratchy noises around the song... thats sad..
Just to be clear. Songs created on suno, on a paid plan, I own the copyright outright? I mean I can use, alter and use in videos, commercials, ads, youtube etc? Are there limits to this?
another dumb question, sorry folks - if i extend, (and it says part 2) is there a way to join them without downloading and using a DAW/audio editor; i dont even think it joins perfectly in beat but i havent really looked
Hello. Love the app. Quick question. I purchased the Black Friday sale through iOS for $6.99/ month or something like that but I’m still being charged $9.99. Is there a way to fix this
The deal was for one month only (see top right corner of the sub plans)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069381916492562585/1311815209672773692/Screenshot_20241128_164236_Opera.jpg?ex=67858e1e&is=67843c9e&hm=91e92c5f4999a0b02f9a5c0b8cb02599fe41a51bfe7d4e0c5d118e29ce9f2081&
when you find the extension that you like... click Create/Get Whole Song.. that'd join them
Ahhh okay thank you! That’s all I need to know. Love the app. You guys are doing amazing work. I’ll just pay the $9.99. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy lol.
thank you
Hey! I have been watching TESLA innovations lately and I thought why not make a sound. Like, listen and follow. https://suno.com/song/43ca0834-21e2-4301-ba6d-232f4cbca18b
Electromagnetic pulse. 4 minutes instrumental. song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
hey there i upgraded to the PRO PLAN but still cant create a PERSONA ? any tipps how i can "reset" SUNO to update my account to the pro ?
downloading waves worked and splitting stems so its somehow realising I payed for the pro plan but why cant i create personas ?
did you tried logout login again to see
good idea t hanks
Hmm.. It is a hit and miss much of the time. But trying to get the right sound is often also based on the music period and select instruments. i often succeed like this in the prompt: period, genre, voice, tone of voice, Instrumental focus, instrumental back-up, key, back-up genre or style reference.
EX: 1960s, psychedelia / jazz fusion, male voice, heartfelt, Hammond Organ, vox organ focus, subtle guitar, E-minor, symphonic.
Sometimes build on more or less.
hello how to solve a persona problem, a woman's voice sang to me a text for a man but I loved this voice, so I wanted to change the text for a female voice while keeping the persona, but in 'using I have another male voice which was grafted instead of the one selected during creation, how can I recover this voice in order to redo my song?
anyone knows a way to get a persona based on your own voice?
I have a PURE guitar only clip of 9.2s [NO VOCALS OR SINGING] which when I use it does not allow me to make the song I created using this clip Public.
I am aware that Suno states that if there iare Vocals or Singing it will be marked Private ONLY.
Why is this clip with NO VOCALS or Singing blocked ? Any help will be appreciated 🤗
As I understand it, you cannot make a persona with your own voice. Not right now, anyway. You can upload an audioclip for each song using ypur voice i guess, but don't actually know how well it works or if you're able to make it public as of now.
is there any way to contact the support in discord ? notice me please 😮
Good morning everyone.
Can I ask a question ?
I'm having problems with my account. I can't find it anymore. I log in with the data and he created a new one for me. Is there any SUNO assistant or operator here in the chat?
Thank you.
No technical support, but a paid subscription. This is how we win!
It's not uncommon for Suno to falsely detect vocals in recordings of guitars and synths. I've had plenty of guitar uploads locked due to that.
Yeah, I've heard. It's a shame. Do you know why? Is it when an instrument 'imitates' what could have been singing insted of just being chords or rythm?
🤷 Suno's probably just a bit too overzealous in its detection and is picking up on minor vocal-like qualities in what it hears.
Often with a question about logging in and discovering a "new" account indicates we accidently , at one point, created a new "free" account when we thought we were logging in.
The "Create New Account" and " sign In" screens look exactly the same, and many have made the mistake of creating a new account.
The answer has been for members to use 1) forgot user name or 2) forgot password or 3) log out and try logging in a couple of time, each by a separate user name or telephone number to see where each goes. We often discover we have one account under " Google sign in" and another under a telephone number, or two different phone numbers, or two email addresses, or a variation of those.
Be careful you are never CREATING another new account, so if it asks to verify a PIN it sends you, likely it thinks you are creating another account.
Look carefully whether you are SIGNING in or creating a new account while you attempt to discover and find access to your original account.
Hello, besides songs, you also can use the generated images? I mean for commercial pruposes.
Between these two paragraphs as focused suggested reading in the Terms of Service along with the whole TOS itself, these should give a more clear perspective than anyone in here could answer.
Yes, got the paid subscription. I'm reading right now.
Note the reference to "audio and visual"
Keep in mind, your "output" also becomes "content" for suno to create other "output" for other members, which may, by audio or visual , significantly resemble your own.
I notice Sunos artwork has lots of hearts motifs, and often see similarities between them, where I wouldn't want to use commercially for fear of confusion and sameness.
Yes, noticed with the hearts too...
Still better than all of the whacky deformed byrds that we used to get. 
Oh yea...
Yes, I realized this.
The fact is that before from my country I used to log in with email and password. After the app is created, it asks me for access via Google, Apple, or Discord. So by logging in with one of these I can't get into my old subscriber account.
screams
I would use a browser to determine your two login user names. Do you have a browser out side of your phone ( laptop/notebook /iPad) so that it doesn't trigger to open your app?
I have uninstalled my app, to be honest as it's more convenient to use the browser on my phone. But I have android.
spoken word, comedy show, standup comedy, live audience, live performance song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Yep. Lots of member accidentaly created a new user account when they re-submitted info on the app, or vice verse, the browser, whichever came second. 😆
The problem now is that I can't get into the subscriber one, where I had my songs... I am very sure that I can enter the user and password correctly. 🤦♂️
Now I have asked via email to transfer both the subscription and the old songs to the new account... Let's hope they succeed.
I am grateful @steady kelp for solving my subscription issue. Glad to have team members like him 🙏🏻
when do i get the 250 credits for inviting someone cause they greated 10 song but we got nothing
That's pretty cool. It follow the prompt very well.
Hey, im a student from a music class and i've been recommending suno for quite a while, i sent an email to have access to the student membership but so far nobody answered, what do i do?
Did you sign up for an account with your .edu email?
yes
And reached out using the Request section on the suno.com/account page?
Indeed
🤘 That's all that's required on your end -- the support tickets have been delayed by over a week since the holidays started, but afaik they're working on building up the support team
Hi, Why worked the playlist not? When i give a Song from my Library to a playlist they say 0 Songs added.
Try refreshing the page.
Nothing change
In my experience, sometimes you need to add it twice. When the first one says 0 songs added, add it again (should not take more than 3x at most).
It is a weird bug that has been there for a long time 🤷
Could anyone of you check if you can change your profile image? Ive tried now on two browsers different account simple wont pop open
It works for me on Firefox.
If you have other playlists, have you checked those to see if the song floated into one of those. Many times I've hit the wrong playlist using thumbs. If a mouse, likely not.
Sometimes it just doesn't do it the first time. 😬
On desktop, click your profile picture from the bottom left, it should bring up a menu with "View profile, edit profile, manage account, sign out" -- you can upload a new image from the "Edit Profile" screen
is there a way to make a cover song using a specific persona?
I could swear it was a feature, but I can't see the option to pick a persona while using the cover mode
is it not possible? did I hallucinate an entire and very specific suno feature?
or should the option be there and my computer has a weird bug?
Unfortunately we're only able to use Persona for initial generations, and the ability to combine Personas with other features like Extend or Cover haven't been introduced yet, but I'd be excited to cover with personas 🙂 Hopefully that can be added soon!
So I used upload audio as a cover, but when the song generated, the song itself is stuck on private?
As stated on the upload screen, any vocal-like detection will cause the derivatives to be private-only. This is to help stop potential copyright infringement or use of someone else's voicals without their permission
does suno have API
None for the public, only for their partners (e.g. Microsoft)
Question, I’m not home to check desktop usage so…
Can you use a persona to make a 3.5 song?
How do I designate a separate male and female voice
I use [Female vocals] in the lyric section, but it’s only like.. 60-70% successful
https://suno.com/song/758ae726-8032-4496-9afc-c72c40716213 starts slow and has some of the fastest sections i've ever heard in any Suno song
the genres used are "Dream indie hyper math bluegrass chiptune" but not sure if i just got lucky with a golden seed
you could try in other songs inside the lyrics sections of [hyper math] or generating specific sections in other genres that are fast
Dream indie hyper math bluegrass chiptune song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
My Suno is stucked in loading whenever I tried to click the Google icon on sign in.
Are you trying to log in via app or website?
yes unfortunately very unreliable^^
Can I somehow tell it not to repeat an earlier verse? Its annoying on a storyline
I've been trying to reproduce Mongolian throat singing in my songs and have been unable to do this. Has anyone got this working? I think its not available in the vocal modelling. How do I go about petitioning for it to be implemented?
Any Suno Mods on?
If I want to describe the vocal style, should I put that into the "style of music" field, or should I put it into the lyrics section?
Sent you a link via PM for Mongolian BBQ. Maybe you can use something of the prompts. 😂 (You could try the search, I think, you aren't the first one to want to try this genre. 🙂 )
How can I make the voice not change at 1:24. Not sure why that happens?
https://suno.com/song/1247762d-cd81-4372-8375-b06122322fcc
I feel like the voice was great in the beginning. Then got worse over time.
[Gregorian chant][throat singing][ambient noise][Mongolian Throat]
You can use all of that as music styles but also as metatags
I've tried all those and not actually gotten what I've asked for.
It seems to give an "impression" of what it thinks the style is like rather than actually using it
https://suno.com/song/c0ca7aa7-40b2-4528-b330-d0a525be6043 this voices on the background ?
Ethereal Wave, Ambient, World Music, Folk, Percussive, Cinematic,Gregorian Chant, rap, throat sing, bass song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
If you give me an example I can actually give you a better idea of how to achieve it
Yes, I have gotten accompaniment or vocal pads that use the sound of throat singing but can't get a lead using it
I mean, can you show me any YouTube video with the vocals you want to achieve ? If it’s not too much to ask
Anything by "The Hu" would do it I guess...
What do I do about distortion and robotic sounding audio quality on extensions when I need them to finish a song?
Didn’t forget about you. I’m still trying for different variations. Give me a few please.
After various try I achieve that, but it worked 1 out of 35 to be honest. So I will not be 100% sure about how to achieve it all the time. Of course I could just create a persona now, and I will get pretty similar results (but even with a persona….you don’t get the same vocals all the time)
This are they list of styles I used, plus a few metatags:
styles:
Deep male vocal, heavy metal, Tuvan Throat Singing, throat singing, khoomei, kargyraa, sygyt,
Lyric example with metatags:
[intro layered throat singing]
Хамаг амгалан энд ирнэ
Тэнгэрийн доор амар амгалан
Эртний дуу шуугиан
Дэлхий амар амгалан амьсгалдаг
[verse Khoomei tone]
Цусны улаан тэнгэрийн доор
Үнс унаж, салхи уйлсаар байна
Hope this work for you
Okay well I'll give it a go later on
Is there a way to make web version to follow lyrics word-to-word? No changes, no additions, only lyrics entered.
Is there a way that I could essentially cover a song that I've made before (using Suno) with the same melody and structure but like, I'd wish for it to sound different in terms of the background instruments as well as be sung by a woman? The first song was sad and I want this one to be more epic :o
I'm not 100% sure how "Cover" works ;o
I've changed the lyrics, as I want them to be different, but they're structured the same as the first song!
The issue I'm facing is that the actual melody and such is completely different, as if I were to simply just make a new song ;o
Hi guys!
Is it me? Or has V3.5 been boosted for some time?
I feel like the tags work a lot better, the voices are cleaner, and the lyrics are better tracked.
any tips on how to encourage v4 instrumental music to end? My go-to trick for previous versions has been to pack the style prompt with nothing but "end" tags, but that doesn't seem to work very well anymore. Most of my credits these days are spent regenerating extensions over and over until I get something that has an actual ending.
my generated songs are cut in the middle of the words
please advice
the problem is only in v4, v3.5 works
I give up. I've tried extending this song from different points about 25+ times now, and it just refuses to end. This is so frustrating.
I discovered that the AI have issues to Talk Languages like German, Serbian and other European languages. For Example if I say Star he will use the German word for a Bird Written Star and say Shtar. Or I want to say Strong (Stark) I need to type in Schtark so that the AI says Sh instead of S but it's not a Big Dealy stil, but still I love Suno 😄
Any chance we can get a public playlist API so that we can add things to it?
hi.. from yesterday till now when I try to extend my song a poor audio and structure exists also there's no tone.. I reported a bug.. but still not resolved in bothe V3.5 and V4.. is there any solution
Did you ever get a respond? It's quite noticeable as you point out. What you can do is to try making an extension from the point where it changes. Might solve it. Keep in mind though it will try and match the structure of the lyrics. If the flow of lyrics don't actually match between verses it's more prone to make up some shannanigans. It might also help if you tag in, how you want it go from verse to chorus - [break] [solo] [hook] or whatever works for you.
Maybe just time. I've experienced it time and again, then just given it a pause and returned. A small change in prompt or simply choosing the extension to start from a second earlier or later might also do the trick.
yeah, the ai's first language is english but will try to match when it notices that it's something different. It often helps if you write "strange" or difficult words phonetically
@severe dew I will wait and check later although I am doing exactly what you said.. I will check it later 😊 thank you
Hope it works out 🎵
Can I get a link and some info on where you extend from? I usually just insert [outro] [fade out] or the like, never [end] though.
I extend from the point when the song begins to lull and fade, a natural point for an outro. Your example prompts are for the lyrics box, but there are no lyrics in this song (and adding these keywords to the lyrics box make no difference anyway)
Ahh sorry, I missed the point of it being an instrumental.
am I able extend song when persona is selected?
And v4 glitches appeared in 3.5, yes. They do upgrade existing models sometimes, did it with v2 and 3 before.
You can make an extension yes, but you can't choose the persona. It will usually match your persona anyway.
Anyone had success using cover feature to gender swap singer?
I’m about 1k tokens in and no luck
The lyrics box is not just for lyrics, though. You can also exercise some control over instrumentals by using tags in the lyrics box... https://suno.com/song/42f71cd3-e727-4af8-91f1-ce3e1d44defb
Playful, Double Bass, Bass Guitar, Slappin-da-Bass, Dark Funk, Doom, Glitch bass, Comedy, Sarcastic, Cartoon, Toony, Solo Bass guiTar, Harmonies, Bass Bass, Bass Fishin', 20Hz song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Yeah, I've done that, and I did try. This was one case where Suno was utterly incapable of ending the song no matter how I tried to coerce it, however. It's happened before, but v4 is particularly bad at it.
More than 90% of everything I generate with v4 ends up at the maximum length without an ending
Can't argue with that. Depending upon the track, V4 often just wants to keep going and going.
You can also use replace to force an ending...
You can?
Indeed!
https://suno.com/song/d4a67662-f07e-40c4-b1b1-016273a4dfde still sounds pretty AI, any prompts I can use to improve?
male voice, pop, rap, trap, ambient, chillhop song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
It's still a crapshoot, but sometimes effective when extend is being stubborn
I thought you were referring to some hidden functionality to set it to end, but it's basically just another variant of extend, then.
and can I use the same instrumental?
hmm, so and so. lets say your song is 3 minutes. you then extend from the 01:30, it will make a suggestion to match the first 01:30 not what was in last 01:30. If it makes sense? The more you give it to work with time vice the better - hence extend as close to endning as possible. Keep the prompt the same. remember to add what lyrics you want from the extension point, don't add all the lyrics again or it will mess the extension up.
I've been generating my instrumentals not with the instrumental "flag" switch but with a lyric prompt [instrumental] and then using "┳┻┳┻┳┻┳┻┳┻┳┻ ┻┳┻┳┻┳┻┳┻┳┻┳" instead of lyrics in the sections then used. There are official instructions for this. You can use the [Outro] and [End] section directives then.
Adding tags to end and outro obviously works. But V4 sometimes can't finish the composition, no matter what. In that case - just fade it out in editor and be done with it.
You may not even need that [Instrumental] tag since you're using prompt noise as filler. I started out using that tag and thought that it was actually needed, but I haven't actually used it in months... can't even remember when I stopped.
Yeah I suspected as much
I was under impression, that the "Instrumental" switch replaces lyrics with "[Instrumental]".
No. I believe you can use it to generate an instrumental break in any song?
You can.
At best, all it does is make a suggestion to Suno that the next part (at least) should be instrumental. But it's definitely not required for instrumentals.
Yes, empty will do.
However, if you are using Persona from a song, you'll have to use this tag or switch, otherwise you'll have very trippy experience.
How so?
It will use fragments of lyrics as music. Kind of medley vocalization. Interesting, but usually unusable. Try it out.
I'm not real clear on what you're saying, tho. Are you saying that if you want an instrumental section in a track with vocals, we need to use the [Instrumental] tag?
I think what he is saying is that with a Persona, these lyric "blanked" instrumentals may end up having some vocals?
Haven't run into that.
You can. It works. But I usually use it with clarification - "[instrumental interlude]" or "[instrumental bridge]", depending on purpose.
I haven't used Personas much since they seem to not be able to take on altered lyrics and that's usually where I want to be able to use them
Oh, yes. Whole phrases, mixed up like mosaic. Hence "trippy". I guess I can find an example.
Ahh... In my case, I use things like [Guitar Interlude], [Cello Solo], [Orchestral Interlude] & things like that.
...and prompt noise to keep the vocals away. 😄
Ha ha, I found an example. I'm glad I have an "Asylum" folder. Give me a sec.
Yup. Personas can be buggy like that.
Why would you use Personas with instrumentals anyway?
Personas can also capture the tone & vibe of instruments... I've used uploads of my guitars as personas.
This is an INSTRUMENTAL track. No lyrics provided. It has heavy artefacts from the song that Persona was created from.
I'm not sure I understand. The song is 3:14 long, but there are 4 words missing in the last verse.
If I set that I want to extend from 3:13 and add 3 words and extend, it generates a song only 0:44 long
Personas seem to come with baggage including already "solved" lyrics which, if they match closely enough, are used instead it seems to me
So the lyrics box was just empty?
Yes, and the flag "Instrumental" was on.
That's a slightly different problem then since we're saying to use the lyric "blanking" with details in the lyric "box"
I'm not surprised, then. All best are off if you don't don't give suno ANY directions and just leave it to its own devices.
No idea where it got the lyrics, though. They aren't from the original song. Except for a few words. It's made up.
What it's generated is a 14 second extension that starts from whatever point in time you chose. If you like that extensions, you can merge it into the original track, at that point in time, by selecting Get** Whole Song** from the extension's menu.
Suno wants to sing and will happily hallucinate its own vocals given half a chance.
It sounds like you have done the right thing. If the final 3 words are now in the song and you like the extension - push the three dots beside the song and choose - get full song. Then it will add the extension to the original which lacked the three words
Is there any way to precisely control the melody used in a section? I'd like to create melodic themes and use them somehow. You can only use one Persona but I'd like to have multiple melodic themes
I covered a track that Suno gave 100% hallucinated gibberish vocals and I added English lyrics that matched the feel of those gibberish lyrics, basically creating an english cover of a Sunoan song. Sunoese? 
Is it better to make extension only with 3 missing word or rather with the last section (chorus)
The only way to have that level of control over the melody right now is to use an upload that has the melody you want.
This reminds me the good old time when Suno could sing emojis. I think they added some filter against it.
I've not used uploads yet. Does Suno convert them into a musical piece to use or are they simply used as samples?
Dont let Furrybeans see that...
They are added to your library where they function just like a Suno-generated track. You're limited to 2m, tho.. and if Suno detects vocals (even incorrectly) it will lock the file so that it cannot be made public or turned into a Persona AND that applies to anything derived from it (crops, extensions, covers, etc.)
It dissects the style, melody, instruments.
I think the "trippy" part is to say, Suno can hallucinate with vocal "instruments" even within instrumentals, if Instrumental toggle is on (along with Custom toggle switched on).
Well you can do things like "[sorrowful sighing]" and "[joyous cry]" I believe
[sigh] definitely works, tho the effect can vary quite a bit from an actual sigh to a more pronounced breath.
Oh, that's a choice where you'll probably have to experiment yourself. I've done both with success. In my humble opinion - if you like the song as is, and 3 words are all you need, keep to it. If you extend the whole chorus you'll never get quite the same.
Interesting, very interesting
I'll have to look into how you use the uploads in a song then
uh oh
Oh yeah you mean like that song? 😄
-# "and duh and duh and duh and rumanumanuh..."
is it possible to set to generate only one song /action instead of two ?
Nope. 😦
Like the friendly and helpful support here. Thx guys
Hi everyone,
I've been trying to generate a slow blues backing track, specifying "no soloist" so I can play the lead guitar myself. However, every time I generate a track, it still includes a soloist, despite my request.
I love the quality of the bases Suno creates, but having the soloist on top makes it difficult to use the tracks for my purpose. Is there a way to ensure only the backing track is generated without any lead part?
Thank you for your help and any suggestions you might have! 😊
Perhaps "no lead instruments"? I've had some success talking about leads before
Or use "-guitar lead"?
Try cover. And in that cover, specify only the instruments you want.
How would you differentiate the lead and rhythm guitars?
[differentiate the lead and rhythm guitars] 👌
unfortunately the soloist is always present, almost always the base would be perfect if it wasn't for the soloist above
Generally speaking, when it comes to AI, if you want something to NOT appear in whatever you generate, you need to avoid mentioning it at all. AI will take any mention in a prompt as positive encouragement, even if you try to negate it. "No soloist" results in the AI seeing "soloist" and increases the odds that it will use that keyword. The "exclude styles" checkbox is the way to go for something like this, I'd imagine. That's how you properly negate keywords.
really a great point, I noticed too that not saying is better than saying
sure, except that exclude style evidently refers to certain musical styles that should be excluded from generation, but it doesn't seem to work with single instruments. So excluding solo, soloist, guitar solo etc.. suno always generates tracks with the soloist present anyway. I haven't been able to find any solution yet
I’m having trouble creating a Beta Persona on Suno. I have a monthly subscription plan, and when I try to use the "Make Persona" feature with a selected song, I get the message: "You cannot make Personas from audio uploads at this time." Additionally, it doesn’t work using the other method either.
Somebody know how I can create a Persona or when this feature will be available?
I've had some success with chanting when using a Silence persona... no idea why, but I've learned not to question these things. If you get a decent one, you can make a persona from THAT and maybe even have more luck.
mongolian, tibetan throat singing, low drone song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
this one seems good for a persona: https://suno.com/song/35d5e472-55bd-4e23-8d91-edb6b6271f27
mongolian, tibetan throat singing, low drone song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
I also feel like I get better results with covers of silence rather than just starting a fresh track.. maybe it gives more weight to the lyrics prompts which is where I put most stuff
It can definitely work with instruments, but it will have difficulties excluding an instrument from genres where the instrument typically plays a major role.
what is a silence persona ?
how you start in silence
It's a persona made from a track that contains nothing but silence
Has anyone tried taking an extended song and EQing it piece by piece to counter the bizarre tendency for Suno to favor higher frequencies after a minute and a half? I started on this last night with Audacity and it worked...kinda?
It's like a gradual slide into higher frequencies, so it's hard to EQ the whole properly, or even sections. If anyone has worked on this, much appreciated for tips.
I think Suno is bugging out right now. Maybe it's just me. It will not do a replace for me right now. Anyone else having issues?
Replace has continual problems, so yep. I got replace to work a couple days ago and was shocked.
Thanks. At least I know it's not just me. So frustrating. Even normal song generation is duplicating a bunch of stuff. Wasting a ton of credits. It's like Suno got worse in the last week
I find that using a Silence persona gives the same benefits - just a different way to get there. Some things that can be difficult to prompt for (such as a bass-driven intro, or the hurdy-gurdy) are pretty easy to get when using silence like that.
Here's a bass intro example...
With the silence persona: https://suno.com/song/a38e3477-77a2-416d-8038-eaa8fcbfe2de
Without: https://suno.com/song/7e0cb513-8f77-491a-8882-4019a6be9a97
Playful, Prominent Bass, Slappin-da-Bass, Overdriven Guitar, Progressive, Funk, Dark, Shred, Virtuosic song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Playful, Prominent Bass, Slappin-da-Bass, Overdriven Guitar, Progressive, Funk, Dark, Shred, Virtuosic song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
You can upload it
Hi everyone, I purchased an annual plan with 10,000 credits that renew monthly. However, it's been two months, and my credits haven't refreshed. Does anyone know who I should contact about this?
Subscription credits don't carry over from month to month, unfortunately.
Right. At the beginning of each monthly subscription period, your 10,000 credits will renew. Any extra subscription credits from the previous bulling cycle will be lost. Top-up credits that you purchased separately WILL carry over.
Get it, thank you 🙂
They do have a disclaimer stating as much at the bottom of that same page.
I see.
Never even considered to use a silence persona, genius.
Definitely not my discovery, but I've used the hell out of it 😄
There's been some speculation that, when using covers and personas with v3.5, we're actually getting an enhanced version... like a v3.5+, but v4 seems to benefit similarly. I dunno... 🤷
Interesting 🧐
Hi Team, l just joined up and this Group seems awesome. Apologies if this question has already been answered previously for someone else! I cannot edit the lyrics of my favourite song which l wrote and created on Suno and saved in my Playlist.
In *Library I selected
*Edit
I then selected
*Replace Section where it took me to lists of Songs
I selected my Song
My Problem:
but I cannot find the screen where it shows the Old lyrics on the left hand side to enable me to Type the new lyrics on the right hand side and to select the section of the song to change.
Can someone give me proper instructions to enable me to do this in my Pro Membership. Cheers.
That's...not something I would have ever thought of in a million years. That's a worthy tip.
Note that extending from an upload is the one situation where extensions can be up to 4m (minus the start time). Extending from silence can give the same previously mentioned benefits along with (potentially) your full one-shot track.
Agree. I only just became a paid subscriber for the first time and I'm getting all these horrible, tinny robotic distortions in my tracks, usually on the third or fourth extension on a song I have already invested heavily in with credits and then can't finish due to audio quality. Just this past week.
I'm also noticing (assuming your Public track with the same name is the same thing) is that you have no shimmer in a genre that's nearly defined by it. Wow.
How much silence did you use? 1 second? 1 minutes?
That one actually started as a guitar upload and uses 10 to 12 extensions. It was a constant battle with shimmer and v4 degradation (as well as trying to keep Suno from turning that somewhat unique voice into Generic Suno Male - a battle that I ultimately lost).
I discarded soooooooo many Shimmery and noisy extensions that were otherwise awesome. 😦 Had to be very careful with my extension points.
I generally use about 10s of silence. That leaves a bit of room in case I later want to play around with the intro via Replace
I absolutely hear you. I am finding myself being OK with what I called the "shimmer minimum" - the amount that I hear because I know exactly what I'm looking for, but that a normal listener will not think twice about. Reality is, I can only get "shimmer minimum" on rare occasions. Yours is one of the very first in the rock/metal genre I've heard where my spot checks didn't find -something-.
It also makes sense that it was a guitar upload, because that's about the best produced electric I've heard on Suno.
I lost my studio space when we needed my mom to move in with us, so I can't do that often, but I am definitely wanting to play with uploads more once I have space to do legit recordings.
My current battle is my EQ fight I mentioned above, trying to get the beginning of the song to be EQd like the end.
https://suno.com/@ghostblz The robot will still go global
https://suno.com/song/3c75a25c-39db-4b3b-9bdd-e37a3e0d7458
i have the outro, but the system cut it… can you help me on this?
power ballad, pop, sad, female singer, Americana, indie rock, drums, electric guitar song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
You just need to add an extension with the [Outro] section in the lyrics box by using either the Extend button or by choosing Extend from the track menu. Something like: https://suno.com/song/a71fa9bf-ccae-424d-a890-caac58627371
power ballad, pop, sad, female singer, Americana, indie rock, drums, electric guitar song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
Can I do it in the app?
pls fixx that damn extended problem...
No idea. I suspect not in the Android app, which is currently pretty crippled. Not sure what features the ios app supports.
I tried finding it but nope
I’m using iOS, yes
anyone else having issues with downloading wav
Its make no fun to create a song.. when allways the damn extended song problem kick in.. they extended only 1 minute , with a random music.. guys.. you fix so much.. why you cant fix this issue?
It's a big button in the browser interface (as well as a menu option):
And by the way, that song is supposed to be longer. So clearly Suno is at fault for cutting the damn outro
This is from the OG track before I tried the remastering…
Suno literally cut the outro
Yeah, not in my ios app unfortunately
It's a thing that happens regularly unfortunately. For now, extensions work for wrapping up a song, at least.
Well f—-
That is definitely not nice at all
Are there any technicians over Suno HQ?
This is what happened when I tried to extend instead
power ballad, pop, sad, female singer, Americana, indie rock, drums, electric guitar song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
power ballad, pop, sad, female singer, Americana, indie rock, drums, electric guitar song. Listen and make your own with Suno.
All of the purple names in the list are Suno employees. They mostly lurk and read through the feedback channels, tho - Don't DM them directly! MikeB is the official community manager. You CAN send DMs to him, but he's probably overloaded right now.
If you want to use the one I generated to slap an ending on the song, you can have it - Just gotta select "Get Whole Song" from it's track menu and that'll rebuild it in your library. I've already deleted it, but it'll still be accessible to you until I purge the trash.
Your name on Suno is the same?
It is, but for this, you'd just need to load up the song page from the link above, click he 3-dot menu, and then click the Create menu and finally "Get Whole Song". If Get Whole Song is not an option - I may need to make it public, just let me know.
Hold on let me try
so its a common thing that extensions are broken right now?
In what way?
It’s working!
w000!!
It may not be the best ending, but... it's an ending! 😄
as in, a few months ago using v3.5 , extending my vocal snippet generated additional lyrics - right now its only generating instrumental unless i type lyrics manually, and no i dont have instrumental checked.
