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[atomic acorn]

so it'll be easy to check lol

[karmic pewter]

I'm doing covers, so far nothing I've noticed

Oh nvm, I can still hear it a bit in one, must be the genre I'm doing

[atomic acorn]

yes - stlll shimmering

in the first 5 seconds

then all the time

[karmic pewter]

Some genres get it a lot more (rock/etc), but stuff like lo-fi or jazz that have a lot of emptyness a lot less

I'm doing jazz stuff so it makes sense

[atomic acorn]

yeah I agree .. some generes do get it very subtely

you can almost not hear it but I can hear it as it sounds very bad

so I'm trained to hear it

[untold briar]

Is this prompt an Extension?

[shy spear]

Yeah

[karmic pewter]

I'm starting to expect shimmer on everything else I lilsten to, it's getting pretty annoying lol

[atomic acorn]

yeah I think we have to use v3.5 till they fix this and it could take weeks or even months as it's not easy to fix it

then if they are able to fix it - we can remaster the 3.5v songs

although v4 does have a better quality so idk .... but I can't listen to this shimmer!

very annoying

[untold briar]

Okay, the most important thing is just to change something between each retry. It's not usually easy or possible to guess what is confusing it, so the first thing to try is just change the Extend From time. Back up 1s, 3s, 5s, 10s, etc, from whatever time you are using. This likely means you have to add in lines that were already sung. If that doesn't work, you can then move on to changing the prompt itself, but just varying the time between retries (in particular backing up further) is the simplest thing that often is enough.

[vagrant berry]

how to make generations shorter like around 30 seconds instead of the whole 2:03 in v4? trying to create a different ending to a song

[worn flicker]

Try putting [Fade-out] [End] or [End] or [Instrumental Finish] either way it should give you something to crop if it doesn't stop, I literally just finished doing exactly that. One last verse.

[vagrant berry]

i'll try that thank you

do I put that in the lyrics or the style?

[worn flicker]

Lyrics, after the last verse on its own line

[vagrant berry]

okay will do thank you

[gentle fern]

Hi guys, i am trying to create something like medieval dark ballad, but sometimes suno adds electro/rock parts which doesn't fit at all in my opinion, is there any option to avoid such generations?

[worn flicker]

You can try using the negative prompt, but it is meh. What style are you using?

[gentle fern]

Creepy, ballad, dark, flute, lute, female voice

[worn flicker]

Give it a style

[gentle fern]

Btw, how to get to negative prompt? I wanna try it, maybe it will solve the problem

[worn flicker]

Rock, metal, nu-metal

You aren't telling it what you want so it is filling in the blanks

Orchestral

Power Ballad Anthemic Rock

Creepy Ballad may work

[gentle fern]

Oh, i see, so i need just to write something like "Ballad, classical, medieval, etc."?

[worn flicker]

Yea basically, it needs a something even if it is Soundtrack

[gentle fern]

Thanks, I'll try

[worn flicker]

Don't put a comma

[worn flicker]

Creepy Medieval Classical
Even that seems like you need something with it. Since classical can stretch genres. Creepy Medieval should do something, since you have Lute in there

[gentle fern]

Hm... I don't even know what else i can add, i wanted some kind of old ballad which would be like creepy story which is played in taverns or something like that

[worn flicker]

Ok so, Haunted Bard Medieval Ballad maybe

[gentle fern]

Thanks, you are helping a lot

[worn flicker]

This was my last one, I can say sometimes less is more, but I get carried away with 200 characters:
Epic Battle Pirate Orchestra Nu-Rock, Shanty, Egyptian, Female Vocals, Soprano Female Vocals, epic bass, violin, cello, dulcimer, duduk

[gentle fern]

Is there any tips to make suno understand the mood fully? Ballad with mad and serious text is played like it is funny ditty

[worn flicker]

Try and remove Ballad, plus version changes what version are u using?

[gentle fern]

3.5, can't buy any sub in my country

[worn flicker]

Ok, 3.5 is off in places and on in others, try Medieval Bard Sung Poetry

I've heard what you are going for. Try searching bard or medieval and see what styles they used to get the sound you are looking for. There will be a lot for 3.5

[gentle fern]

Thanks again!

[worn flicker]

Are you doing some Skyrim style stuff like a bard singing of things not to do...lol

[gentle fern]

I don't think that Skyrim ballads will fit, I can't remember any close dark ballads, to be honest i didn't listened them much

[worn flicker]

I'm trying some stuff

[worn flicker]

Are you looking for minimalistic?

[gentle fern]

I think yes

I guess i got the prompt that is something like i want, just need to roll generations for a few times

[worn flicker]

experimental, minimalistic can go in there

[gentle fern]

Thanks, I'll try next time

[worn flicker]

https://suno.com/song/c004b728-77c9-4fad-b18e-540cb2d46071 - this is what I mean by experimental minimalistic can pull back instruments even if this isn't what you are looking for.

[gentle fern]

It's really similar to result i want to get

[worn flicker]

As it goes in the music kicks in, but that is where extend comes in. You just go to the time that it kicks up and extend from there. It should cut the instruments back down.

[dapper sluice]

hehehe, well I thru many iterations, got my song (I uploaded my own clip for SUNO to use. It's getting very good at it.) perfect then I hear it.... I mistyped a word Goy instead of Got.
QUESTION: How do I keep the song exactly as it is and change that one word?

is this the right place to ask that?

[worn flicker]

It is, but the sad truth is you can't cut that specifically if it is more than 2 min into the song

If you are paid Sub

[worn flicker]

If not 2 minutes in you could download the wav and then cut in the word after you get the right Gen. Besides that you will run into the 10 second limit and it will get close but you won't get an identical clip of the song.

[dapper sluice]

Thanks Sysmai, another iteration fixed it with minimal changes to sound or structure 🙂

[finite minnow]

any news when suno getting unf**ked?

[torn spoke]

I suppose I'm not es annoyed by them as I've got the entire package for 15eur / month

[brisk drift]

Hey there. Since when "edit section" costs credits?

[finite minnow]

I've got the sub for 30$ a month, and feeling like I've been downgraded, since every song have laser beams, edit cost credits, and quality of edits got worse

[finite minnow]

since suno V4

welcome to the club buddy

[brisk drift]

Damn. ty suno.

[quaint tree]

hey anyone have any experience w making music that switches back and forth from male vocals to female? i’m trying to figure out how rn

[patent leaf]

using personas to work on a song repetitively, how to i fix vocals, its hallucinating n merging words cuz i changed the lyrics between prompts, and replace section isnt working at all

[patent leaf]

in the sense of prompting or general design

[quaint tree]

prompting

[cunning mulch]

what methods exist to get a Persona that can redo a song but allow you to change/add lyrics?

[torn spoke]

For replace, its important that you include a good part of the surrounding song

2 lines or so on each side of the section you want to replace

[cunning mulch]

that ruins the section you're trying to replace though, especially if it's a Bridge

[patent leaf]

instrumental on both sides of the vocal in that area, already with the 10 second minimum, but its like full vocal hallucination, maybe the model thinks the words are instruments at this point or soemthing

[patent leaf]

idk how personas actually work and i just keep running a song thru with same prompt and slight change to lyrics and every so often one section actually changes cleanly so then i make a new persona off that edit

not a cheap method tho, burned lik 500 credits in 2 days

holy shit it might be because my tagged chorus has 2 different lyrics on that part

[cunning mulch]

probably

[patent leaf]

also any good multitrack splitters? i use voice ai rn which gets me like 6 split decently clean but im sure there are other ai stem programs that work well (paid is fine)

[plush sapphire]

why emails are not response

can any technical person help me

[steady owl]

Okay, how do I generate 2500 songs with 0 credits?

[hollow hare]

Because Suno Support works on Eastern US Timing. It is currently 4 AM there. It usually takes a few business days for support to reply.

If the question you have is specifically account-related, no one here can help you as this is a community server. Otherwise go ahead and ask

[hollow hare]

Did refreshing/reopening the app fix the problem?

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[urban sonnet]

efter todays 20 renders in v4 still is a 100% shimmer fest 😦 Maybe tomorrow 🙂

[modest nexus]

When making a cover song I always get an error, but other forms of creation is fine. Anyone else has experienced this?

[hollow hare]

I would assume you will have shimmers until it is mentioned at #📢┃announcements that it has been resolved

Try to avoid loud genres like Rock, Metal, and certain EDM that encourages cymbals in the mean time. Or use 3.5

Others have found some styles to exclude that reduces the shimmers - search in this channel to.find thise posts

[hollow hare]

What model version is the song you are covering (e.g. v4 upload) and what is the specific error you get?

[urban sonnet]

I have found that its 100% present in reverbs så styles, genres that avoid reverb can work, but still very limiting 🙂

[modest nexus]

v4, error is something like server error pls try again but it never went away only happened around 12 hours ago until now

[hollow hare]

Hmm unfortunately I don't use cover much in v4. Is the song an uploaded audio?

[modest nexus]

Yes, it's an 8bit audio that contains the base melody that I want to use

[hollow hare]

Hmm I know people had issues when there are vocals detected in the uploads... hmm
How about you try Extending the song > Get Whole Song > Cover that? It should treat it as a normal gen hopefully

[modest nexus]

I'll try that later. Thanks for the advice

[vocal tide]

Guys I cannot download any song I generated, I tried coming back after 1h but still cant download anything. Anyone encountered this? I tried relog and different browser

[steady owl]

It's working, maybe it was a timezone thing 😅

[willow wadi]

Big personal process breakthrough. Broke out RX11’s music rebalance feature. It has a sub feature to output stems for vocals, drums, bass, and “other instruments.”

Much better than the stems feature bolted onto Suno.

Spent the evening cleanly replacing the drum track using Logic Pro Session Drummer. Individual effects on each channel. Pretty nice.

[graceful condor]

Suno stopped working

[warped wyvern]

I can't get into Suno with chrome, I am getting a cloudflair issue Error code 525

clerk-client-api-svdc6x3ypq-uc.a.run.app
Host
Error

It appears to be not working on MS Edge and now my iphone app stopped working too

[glad mirage]

Also came to mention the same thing.

[flint haven]

If you are using v3.0, note there is a visual bug - v3 lyrics char limit is 1250, not 3000

[cerulean root]

I wish I could afford that

[polar spade]

Renewal date is always a fun day. Your old credits disappear and new credits come in. There's a small gap before the magic happens. I'll guess today your credits renew.

[polar spade]

Sadly I have a nice neugrass song that is just an acoustic guitar and vocal. Good all the way until the interlude I put a "band" of 2 acoustic guitars, bass and brushed drums. The hiss started immediately at the beginning of the interlude, but oddly stopped 3 seconds before it finished, then guitar and vocal again to end. Either I fiddle with it or just have guitar and vocal all the way through.

[trim glade]

can everyone Helps me. Suno wont end my song , it goes unlimited time without ending , when i write [End] or [Outro] he makes the song not end , he repeat it everytime...

i have use 200 Points and nothing happens , it doesnt end the song and repeat it everytime without end or instrument fade out

[cinder bridge]

Any one else her the reverb clicking on some of the tracks it's seems to be happening more and more

[polar spade]

Use whatever you like, [end], [Final cut], [Fade out], but use v3.0 to end. It's been better to end a song.

Again, make sure your chosen end-point is maybe a silent point, a low volume area, a 7th 4th or 5th chord, no vocal or instrument lead coming in, end of a stanza (chorus, epilogue, tag , button phrase) . Find a sound reason to end the song and put your extend point there.

If it seems like it continued off of an instrument or vocal, back up 1 second by 1 second for a couple of gens and see how significant the extend changes or creates an ending.

If still a problem. You could grab an older extend and extend off of it at 00:01, to help "pivot" the theme to see if that ends it. It may backfire and start a new sound, but always an option.

@hollow hare seems to use the same ideas. #💬┃general-chat message including v2.0 too.

[trim glade]

ah thx 🙂

[neat bear]

Soon it is gonna be like 100 bucks a month for AI music production... human musicians comeback happening soon! 😄

Need to go back on the piano...

[scenic sequoia]

dont use v4

[crude jetty]

https://suno.com/song/e5ad2cae-34e2-4e17-a088-fa747a59d41f <I got a v4 generation that doesn't go haywire

they're making progress on it for sure

[crude jetty]

Take my advice: Make it in v3.5 remaster it a few times and it SHOULD behave after a few

[polar spade]

If at the least, so far suno is spot on for a studio to NOT have to write or arrange a melody for demos or even to do a mastered radio-ready production. Run about 20 gens through suno, pick a favourite, and stem out or just listen to work out the instruments. Arrange and chart it for your needs, suit up the musicians and vocalist and record 6 demos for the day. Charge the same money or even less for same profit. Saves a good 4 hours of work, but also gives multiple choices which wasn't time-profitable before.

[scenic sequoia]

i just been extracting the stems of v4 and using the instrumental of 3.5 and merging them. i wont be getting more credits until they fix the shimmer tho, its driving me mad lol. but yeah i understand things will take time to fix, so im not at all mad or anything. im fine with waiting for a fix

[polar spade]

Or even stem out the vocal, learn the instruments and play to the vocals. Save another $150.

[crude jetty]

That one has none, that was the 2nd one of the remaster. one of my other ones took a few, but I got it

I mean, this is what one of them took, but.. I did get one

[scenic sequoia]

ill have to try with a song of mine, iv only ever tried a max of 2 times generating a remastered version

[crude jetty]

if you make a lot, I wouldn't reccomend it, but I don't doa lot of songs myself

[neat bear]

Wow, you are a ear-trained professional! I'm just hearing those stems out, mainly struggling on sounds. I don't have so good, authentic instrument sounds, that Suno "has". Whoah, Suno "Band" has some nice sounds. Just bought Komplete, but next I have to buy more powerful computer to use them nicely! Just this project with earlier sounds... 😄

I can only play piano on intermediate level. Have been doing about 20 hours on a song, but this is darn good ear training. Because I want to keep the Sunos arrangement and don't make my own. Every song I create with Suno has my lyrics.

[polar spade]

👆Suno arrangement has some clever tricks. It's a learning tool for sure. Hypothetically, we're learning from the "best of all songs" as a dataset. But sadly, just because a song over the past 100 years made it to airplay, doesn't mean it's a good song. 😁

[patent leaf]

I agree, suno is not a a tool that you should use to generate and release straight from. I use it mainly to sample sounds, or find inspiration.

In conjunction with stem splitters and other tools, you can recreate whatever in a wave table after and chart the sound (or use ableton which has melody to midi built in)

[neat bear]

BTW on this song has a nice vocal from Suno but it gets too hot on volume (little distortion) in the last on semitone-transposed section so I have to replace at least that. I used Demucs to separate the vocal. There is some artifacts but maybe you can not hear them in the final mix. They have reverb, though, I would like more dry vocals to start the mix from dry state, but maybe you still get pleasing result in the way.

Is there any tool to just use to sing vocals? That would be cool, as I am not so good singer as my songs would need?

I know there is Replay, but every model are another language that leads to accent on singing!

[patent leaf]

Also sum ai sound replicators like synth plant exist now so u don’t even need to watch 5 years of Serum tutorials (you will still need to)

[patent leaf]

I’ve looked for vocal only ai but literally none exist. Mainly because vocals need a melody to follow and can vary extremely widely by genre, key and tempo (even if you can set them as settings, it’s a very hard thing to make controllable) I still think sunos stemming is shit tho

[neat bear]

I mean like you write up your lyrics on the program and then play them with your keyboard or MIDI notes

There are, but they are mainly English only

[patent leaf]

Got names? I’m interested

[neat bear]

https://vocalist.ai/ , ace studio, https://www.sonarworks.com/soundid-produce/voiceai

[patent leaf]

If it’s English only you can always try and latinize the vocals you input

But ik that doesn’t work for most languages

[jade mist]

I really hope they meant it when they said model you will have in 2 weeks. Two weeks is up tomorrow and the model is still not released. If it doesn't get released tomorrow, i'm losing trust.

[neat bear]

What do you mean by latinizing laik [laik] ??

sorry meant like [laik]

[scenic sequoia]

yeah this was kinda cool, tho i found it way to much work getting it to pronounce everything correctly

[patent leaf]

Yea, take Japanese , you can latinize the kanji into Latin letters

Also what’s shimmer? I use sumo for a lot of EDM and heavy bass stuff, never experienced it?

[crude jetty]

https://suno.com/song/3e94d3cb-54e6-498e-9527-a81df00d2582 Listen at around 1:20

the next 20 seconds or so just constantly shimmer

[patent leaf]

the like clicky 200bpm metronome?

[scenic sequoia]

the shimmer sounds like theres a typewriter in the background clacking. or like endless echos that are close together of a sound making it sound yeah i guess a metronome

[scenic sequoia]

do u use v4?

[patent leaf]

Yea I use v4, heating what it is from the example yea I’ve experienced it. Always assumed it was some backing hat or something from my prompt. But never really affected my workflow just cuz of how I use the songs

[scenic sequoia]

sounds like i need to change my genre up till they fix it lol

[patent leaf]

I mean workflow as I gen ideas for songs then make them in ableton. But also I’m just making hardstyle and like that shit so in the end it’s just loud noise lol

[crude jetty]

yes, it's in a LOT of v4 songs, more often then not

[wispy belfry]

Yes, I have the same problem, I have it in all of my tracks and it's quite horrible. I tried to pass back to the 3.5 version, but for some unknown reasons, I am stuck with the v4.

[spiral bane]

i find its the cymbals in v4 that cause the shimmer

[patent leaf]

Could build a noise floor off of it in post and / or try phase canceling it if u isolate it. But that’s alot of work but only solution I can think of

[spiral bane]

i make a lot of metal music and it happens when the kit uses a lot of crash/splash cyms

[patent leaf]

If you have like a pure sound clip of it like just the shimmer (or as isolated as you have in a song) I can try building n testing a inverted sound or send noise reduction settings for it in a DAW

[haughty falcon]

A bit relieved to see that this "shimmering" sound isn't bothering just me. Really hoping for a quick fix, because honestly, it's ruining all our music tracks…

[spiral bane]

its so burried i haven't isolated it or tried too, too much work in PT

[crude jetty]

you should be able to use 3.5 now.. why aren't you able to?

[wispy belfry]

When I extend a track, and I try to choose a version, it's locked at the V4. I tried to take the V3 or the V3.5 and it's impossible to change it, it goes directly to the V4.

[spiral bane]

thought they allowed v 3.5 for extend/covers

at least they said that

[crude jetty]

is the start v4?

[unique stone]

Uploads are locked to V4 for some reason but you can crop, select the whole clip and basically clone the upload, which you can then extend with other versions.

[wispy belfry]

Yeah, it's quite weird, maybe it's a glitch of the website. But this reverb stuff in all of the tracks is horrible for real, I hope they will fix it soon ! Also, it looks totally lost with some styles, I asked a simple Rap instrumental to test if the reverb thing was here, and it made it more like metal.

[wispy belfry]

Oh, interesting, I'll test this. Thank you !

[dusky halo]

Hello 🙂
Do we have an ETA for the API? Or it's not on the roadmap?

[spiral bane]

i haven't heard or asked, im sure its on the roadmap otherwise htey will customers

they*

[crude jetty]

I'm starting to get v4s rthat don't reverb

[wispy belfry]

I still have, but I read their announcements, they are working on it looks like. I hope it will be great

[crude jetty]

yes, I still get them, bt it's not every time now

[haughty falcon]

good news

[safe mortar]

Hi there!
I recently created a track using the Premier plan, and I need to obtain a license for commercial use of this specific song. Does anyone know the exact process for obtaining such a license or any documentation that verifies my rights to the track?
Any guidance or steps to follow would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

[crude jetty]

beyond the scope of this area, but you can goggle it

[naive quail]

If you can't find an answer here: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1294423389515284552 ... you'll need to contact [e-mail]

[safe mortar]

Thanks for the details. I wrote to support. And I've been waiting 6 days for a reply from support.( Maybe there is some period of time to consider requests to the helpdesk...

[barren snow]

so... im on the fritz about even giving my card since SUNO can't seem to put female singers into the heavy metal genre: Soprano female nursery rhyme singer singing a heavy metal song about drinking Samuel Adams just the haze and not getting drunk, the singer sounds like they sing in a very high pitched vocal (using 3.5v from a invite from a friend)

[polar spade]

I believe yes, unless the origin is from an uploaded audio.

The work around being to crop the full song and work off the crop in 3.5

[spiral bane]

ohhh did check that yet

[crude jetty]

What's your prompt?

[spiral bane]

didn't*

[warped furnace]

Just now, the AI gives me female when I want male. 😅 Or vice versa. Depending on your prompt it might not understand what you want. Currently, the system is a bit glitchy.

[crude jetty]

cause trust me, it works

[crude jetty]

are you pro+ ?

[warped furnace]

Yes, I'm pro. But just recently. I had the same problem with the voice swap before getting a paid plan.

[crude jetty]

if you prompt "XYZ Vocals" 9/10 tims you get what you're after, in pro exclude the other and it's almost guranteed

[polar spade]

What would "XYZ vocals" infer?

[crude jetty]

Male/female

[warped furnace]

It wasn't a problem before the launch. But I try excluding. Thanks. 🙂

[crude jetty]

or some adjective like "excited male vocals" for inatance

[naive quail]

It's really just a matter of getting the right prompt, which can take some experimentation depending upon the other styles, lyrics, tags, etc... This one needs a bit more work on the nursery rhyme aspect, but it's a female voice, at least! https://suno.com/song/6770c2b5-9540-482c-b751-8fac96ae24eb

[polar spade]

Right. That's the intended outcome. But XYZ is just placement letters?

Oh. Got it... describe the vocal in X and Y with "Z" being the gender?

[crude jetty]

XYZ meaning "something" maybe it's just an American thing to say?

[polar spade]

Happy folk female vocal
Distorted grunge male vocal
Solemn calming choir male vocals

Something like that?

[crude jetty]

yes

but could be just "female vocals" too. XYZ is just basically a placeholder

also, always "vocalS" not "vocal"

[polar spade]

Always vocals, plural. Ok. I'll try more like that. See what works. Thanks.

[polar spade]

I've not thought before to genderize the style prompt 🤔. A "female nursery rhyme" . You may have something there, as well.

[spiral bane]

i have 🙂 it works most of the time

tho asking it to do both is mostly a miss, half the duets i have are accidents

lol

[polar spade]

[Male folk], [female Christmas song] , [accompanimental duet death metal]

[spiral bane]

i have to try that last one

[polar spade]

[Kids opera] << that one should be interesting. I'll try it.

[spiral bane]

lol

i need to hear that tbh

[polar spade]

Everyone has these cool ideas. And first thing in the morning. Great job!

[spiral bane]

i can only think a kids choir in some sort of creepy section of a metal song with errie atmospheric synths in the bg

[polar spade]

Well the title was good.. under the magic tree.... vocal was male, but it's not like Suno makes kids vocals anyway.

Next: chipmunk punk!

[spiral bane]

humm shame

[gritty badger]

I was making a 90s Hip-hop Rock fusion song and when I wanted to extend the end part of the song, it added a weird part in the end of the extension. Was like a studio chat, almost like Simlish. You think you understand them, but they are actually talking gibberish 😅 Anyone knows why that happens sometimes? Very eerie to be honest 😬

https://suno.com/song/ced3cd0d-14fb-45b6-86e5-06589e564054

[naive quail]

:cough: https://suno.com/song/fb1ee1d9-e553-46d2-944f-0312cfa4b14b

[spiral bane]

its the artist talking to the engineer for a good session 👀

[gritty badger]

That's so weird isn't it 😶 It freaked me out when it started to play. I was alone, thought someone was in the house 🤣

[naive quail]

It's just a hallucination. I've had entire tracks come out in that Sunoese Gibberish - they're fun 😄

[crude jetty]

https://suno.com/song/cf63bd2b-4d12-4a8e-9e21-0acc594c6315 <chirps

https://suno.com/song/4be0956d-9338-4ab8-b705-6498ce6efb11 <no chirps

so it's possible to NOT get the shimmering right now, and that's a positive step for sure

[empty whale]

There’s a song I wrote for a class assignment. I got a version of the song I liked, but then had to rewrite the lyrics (the overall song remains the same despite a few changes in a few verses). I created a persona of the first song that came out good and tried to use it on the 2nd version’s lyrics, but it’s just a mish-mash of the two different versions and nothing I tried helped (as in not create a new song with the same persona, not covering, not remastering). What can I do? I tried regenerating songs without the persona but none of them hit right

[crude jetty]

the personas don't like minor edits

[empty whale]

Is there anything that can be done to get a similar result?

[crude jetty]

this MAY or may not work, so I suggest trying it, but I promise no result. Create another song in the same style with the persona. trash the original. They will remove the persona from the new one. Persona the new one, then create the edited version with the new persona of the new song you used that persona on

[empty whale]

Can’t delete if I have a persona

[crude jetty]

there, new song, with the new persona, and the original is still in the trash

[potent fern]

just got the android app! and it broke! yay

nice splash screen though.

[near timber]

Are they aware the Suno app don't load?

The splash screen is cool though

[potent fern]

maybe send logs if you can do that from your phone? maybe it will help for them to see what error is going on

[near timber]

I wish

Honestly expected the app to break

I mean it is beta

[crude jetty]

what android version are you on?

[potent fern]

yeah I hoped it would load an interface at least

[near timber]

I'm on the latest version

[potent fern]

android 13 here

[near timber]

So it's nothing to do with my version 💕💜

although they should fix it

Before others download it

[feral eagle]

Unfortunately they didn't... For me also only splash screen it's displayed

[potent fern]

also it could be that we all got the preinstall message and it just simultaneously bumped in traffic

[near timber]

Fr

[near timber]

Your actualy right

That and the app is installing data in background

[feral eagle]

Someone just release this app too early

[near timber]

The more you know you know

[crude jetty]

prhaps lol

[near timber]

Possibly got excited

And hit release 😂

"ooooh I can't wait for people to see this, presses button - Bink released app"

[near ice]

App doesn't work so no panic

[near timber]

A year later

[near timber]

Yeah I think it was a false release

Or an intentional release

[fathom dagger]

Android app stuck on loading screen !!

[potent fern]

while I'm complaining.. the website version still shows errors on most browsers in the player.. which might be a clue as to why it only plays for about 10 minutes then goes out of memory or something

[near timber]

Bc usually if a app is stuck in splash screen it means data hasent indulged

Meaning downloaded fully to 100%

And the scripts weren't loaded in when app was installed

Hence it's a pre-app

[near timber]

Rip

[silver escarp]

I was curious to see what was going on. I saw the notification when I got to work but haven't tried it yet. hopefully by the end of the day it will be working.

[near timber]

Idk bout that one 😑

[near timber]

Most likely yes

Not sure though

[near ice]

App works now

[near timber]

Yeah I know

[tawny grotto]

Any recommended AI tools that go well with suno like mastering and such?

[near timber]

Ambient

[potent fern]

oh? I'm still at the splash screen..

[near timber]

Depending on your style

[tawny grotto]

What does Ambient do?

[near timber]

Or could be possibly the fact that the splash screen was set to load for a longer period of time which probably was set to 1 hour or two hours or 6 hours which medically can be an error when programming an app

So basically they set the loading seconds for the splash screen it might have been set for too long and that's why DF

So the people see a splash screen instead of the app working

Because he I can't handle how many hours it was set to

[feral eagle]

Why no one mentions Team? 🤔 @grizzled prairie maybe?

[potent fern]

I was just watching this about using matchering instead of paying AI apps.. You can upload your track into bandlab and use their free AI mastering.. but people do say it is not as good as you just spending time on it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9xosEWywic

[near timber]

Basically make sure songs a little bit ambient like as a echo effect

Like if you were to go inside of a parking garage

Like a huge one that would be ambient

So almost like surround sound

[near timber]

Oooh nice

[twilit narwhal]

my app seems to work

[surreal tapir]

Eh... I'll check back in a few hours, hopefully the app will load for me by then.

[near timber]

Yeah the app is finely loaded in

[tawny grotto]

I'd wait for an announcement...

[tranquil orbit]

Nothing happens to me anymore

[near ice]

But the app is very barebones. No playlist; I can't upload my own vocals or recorded piano pieces. But i assume because it's still a new app

[near timber]

I think I was actually correct I think it's still installing data on the background so some of y'all that are trying to open the app I think it's still installing and that's why it's giving you just a splash screen

I don't know that could be just me I used to program apps

[potent fern]

how can you see the data loading??

[near timber]

You can't data is installed in the background of the program itself

[tawny hound]

sips coffee nice app you got there suno.

I like the mp4 file ;). Also thanks for dex.

P.s. not it's not running yet. From the looks of it it's mostly scaffold. Not dug too deep into it because respectful. 🙂

[near timber]

You never get to see that

No it is you just can't see it it doesn't show you what is installing this one is the type that stalls in the background

Is it good gesture though because mine just fully finished

Oh 0-0

[crude jetty]

I got it working

[twilit narwhal]

I left the app and now I'm back stuck at the Suno logo 😂

[near timber]

If you want to fix it try reinstalling it

[crude jetty]

go to settings > apps > suno, clear cache and reopen it

[near timber]

Or what he said

Both work

[twilit narwhal]

cache doesn't work

[near timber]

Reinstall the app

[crude jetty]

literally what I just did

[worn flicker]

Let me see what is happening

This is my jam....lol

[twilit narwhal]

same result

[sullen cape]

I think it just a accidental release

[twilit narwhal]

I guess I was just lucky then

[near timber]

Okay well in this case it means that your app is still installing data and honestly it's probably going to take a long time

And if that's not typically the case then it's probably just the splash screen duration for it to load because there are timers you can set for a splash screen

[crystal ibex]

There is no announcement about the app so officially it can't be used

[sullen cape]

Or probably only in limited countries

[near timber]

Especially if it's made from HTML JavaScript or python

[sullen cape]

Moooo

[worn flicker]

So you stuck on the load screen? Same

[sullen cape]

Same

Probably too many users

[worn flicker]

I hope that is not just an html viewer

[near timber]

That could be the case but for that to be possible the app would have to be in service for longer than a year

[worn flicker]

I better use native code or I won't bother

[near timber]

I wouldn't think so

[worn flicker]

I'm looking at the logcat

[near timber]

Honestly in my opinion I just reset the app files

[worn flicker]

Louisiana

[near timber]

And it worked fine

[tawny hound]

Kotlin, firebase, gradle 😉

[near timber]

Ayo 😂

[worn flicker]

Gradio

[tawny hound]

Edited as that autocorrect was baaaad

[worn flicker]

Lol

[near timber]

Oh now I understand

[worn flicker]

I'm digging in logcat

[near timber]

Why wait for this app to fix itself I'm going to finish working on my own app that I'm building myself

[twilit narwhal]

were back 🙏

[crude jetty]

go to settings > apps > suno. clear the cashe and reopen it

[near timber]

Did they fix the profile thing too

[sullen cape]

Not working

[near timber]

I think they're working on it in the background as well

[twilit narwhal]

what exactly?

[near timber]

To me that's what it seeming like

[fluid vault]

The android app?

[near timber]

Yeah

[fluid vault]

Clear cache and restart?

Ty

[near timber]

Noo wait

Noo wait

[fluid vault]

?

[near timber]

It won't fix it

[fluid vault]

Kk

[near timber]

It just restarts the download process

[twilit narwhal]

Germany 🙂

[fluid vault]

Lol

[stiff eagle]

just installed, it doesn't go forward, it's stuck

[fluid vault]

It's stuck

[near timber]

To be fair it's a beta app it's not going to to work all in one day

[fluid vault]

Facts

[near timber]

I mean it takes a long time to get a fully functional app

Especially when programming one

[hollow hare]

It isn't officially announced yet so either it was accidentally released early, has a major last minute bug to fix, or - most likely - infrastructure is under strain due to the number of users trying to access at the same time.

[fluid vault]

I've dev'd a few things I hear ya

[near timber]

That is also the other case of it but I don't think they plan on announcing it until after they finish working on it

Which relieves the case that it was released too early

And by that being said because it's a beta app it's having trouble running because there's over multiple users opening it

Which also causes yet to reinstall data and other usages in the background

In some cases it will load and in some cases it won't because it's not fully yet loaded

And another case of that can also be the splash screen set for too long to load in

And that also causes the same issue of multiple users

[worn flicker]

Yea, it isn't getting to the login, it get stuck at profile on Android side

[sullen cape]

I reported it to google

[near ice]

App works for me, but it's very empty.
Cannot make cover or remaster or download video.

[crude jetty]

it's loaded fine for me after a cleared the cache

[wet fox]

Anyone know how to either, with quality, split the vocals and instruments or where I can hire someone to recreate the instruments so that I can record my vocals over them instead?

[near timber]

That's to be expected

Actually

Well sorry I use to be a programmer

I mean I have a certificate in JavaScript

Python

HTML

C++

[crude jetty]

but this isn't YOUR app, so chill, ya?

[near timber]

So can't really argue if I'm just helping

[near timber]

Hold up I never claimed it as mine

I'm just sharing knowledge

[silver escarp]

He's just trying to be helpful. Calm down guys

[near timber]

Get your facts checked

[sullen cape]

No scenes

[silver escarp]

He's throwing out possibilities on what could be going on.

[twilit narwhal]

lol my app is in dark mode

[near timber]

Yes 😊

Someone who understands me

[worn flicker]

The red is obviously where it dies

[crude jetty]

you made several statements are if they were irrufutable fact

[near timber]

Okay and that's me basically giving you info and knowledge of what I think can possibly happen

[crude jetty]

so if you clear the cache and reload it, what happens then?

[near timber]

It shouldn't matter how much I give even if I am wrong and I might not be and I might be

At least I tried to help

[fluid vault]

@near timber Cleared cache and it opened right up fyi

[near timber]

Yeah same

I gave up trying to help people

Bc there rude

[fluid vault]

Sweet! Thanks all! Afk

[near timber]

Well mines working now so

Peace

[silver escarp]

Clearing the cache didn't do anything for me.

[crude jetty]

did you cleas and reopen it after clearing the cache?

[silver escarp]

Yeah I did

[near timber]

Delete and reinstall

[silver escarp]

That was my next step

[near timber]

If it ain't that then you need to clear Data

[unique stone]

Pretty sure if you just wait a little while it'll start working. If they're rolling it out now it's probably just swamping their servers with everyone trying to use it at the same moment.

[near timber]

Which is next to clear cach

[worn flicker]

Ok. Clear cache works

[near timber]

Actually yes

Welp I'ma go bye

[silver escarp]

Clearing the Data worked. Thank you

[worn flicker]

Clearing data, no. It is getting bad crap on the start, so clearing data makes it do the same thing.

It was clear cache after clearing both

[near timber]

Yw

[worn flicker]

It just solution-ed for me

[near timber]

It might work

[worn flicker]

I opened, it stuck, I cleared cache and data, I opened, it froze, I clear cache, open and it went.

[near timber]

Oh wonder who tried to help

But wanted to be rude for me helping

😑😑😑

[worn flicker]

So clear cache works maybe not for everyone

[near timber]

Yeah

[silver escarp]

Clear Data worked for me.

[worn flicker]

Yes i can verify that it works

[near timber]

It does

[silver escarp]

Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling?

[worn flicker]

You mean your problem is unrelated

[near timber]

Only clear Data

[crude jetty]

restart your phone

[near timber]

Not the cache

Otherwise the app gets confused

😑

[near timber]

😭😂😂

[crude jetty]

the data clears the cache as well, but what would I know..

[near timber]

Stawp I'm dieing😂😂

[worn flicker]

Clear data delete both, correct, you need the data, then clear cache

[neat quartz]

Any AI music creators here I would like to listen 👂 huh

[near timber]

Yes

[worn flicker]

I'm not asking questions...lol

[near timber]

Everyone here most likely

[empty coral]

Yo

[neat quartz]

And would like to share some experience together with each other huh am a musician tho

[empty coral]

The app just got released and crashed when tryn to generate a song lol

[south mulch]

I just installed Suno for Android. I can't find my playlists I painstakingly created via the web interface. Anyone?

[near timber]

😂😂😂

[neat quartz]

And did you also upload your music on YouTube channel man and Spotify

[empty coral]

I can't load app anymore

[near timber]

Yk what I'm not gon help

[empty coral]

Hehehe

[near timber]

I'ma just let it unfold

[empty coral]

Yup

Ggs

[naive quail]

The app works for me, but... meh; I'm sticking with the browser.

[empty coral]

There is also a missing feature, I can't even view lyrics.

(Guess it's time to wait for fixes)

[near timber]

If this is the case

Maybey location or cloud issues

Dang my computer froze

Ugh brb

I'm back

[worn flicker]

I need to see if it doesn't do all the weird crap that happens with crop and replace but other than that the web is better

Portrait only...

[near timber]

Well an app can also be run through website as well

[crude jetty]

well.. it worked, and now it doesn't work.. so...

[near timber]

But haven't studied that much

[near timber]

Fr mine too

[worn flicker]

A web app yes

[near timber]

Yep

[hollow sapphire]

The Suno app for Android is here!
It will take some time to get used to it...

[worn flicker]

Since Suno was there first it will be better developed but on Android it has always had "poke through" when it clicks what is behind what you want to click, and on crop and replace it gets silly...lol. I have to triple tap the wave until it gets the time in the first box or everything disappears.

I gotta test the app, if it does crop and replace well with touch I'll use it for that part

[near timber]

Yep that is true

[hollow sapphire]

Suno Android est la 🤣
Check out my song made by Suno Android! https://suno.com/song/59f58c15-4acc-4064-9763-bf1c2b7cbfeb

[worn flicker]

No

[near timber]

Sends a bug report

Pretty much all it does

Or is used for

[near timber]

This is very good

What style were you going for?

I learned it

[tawny hound]

So finally got it working.

Install app.
Load app
Wait till cache says 1.14 (double)
(Data will ve about 4.6)
Force stop
Delete cache.
Repeat. Now cache will still be around 1.4 again and data will be at around 9.
Force stop
Start and loads

Tested twice fully ran through on Samsung fold 4

[near timber]

From programming classes

[near timber]

😂😂😂

[worn flicker]

There is going to be a flood of people...lol.
Install app
Open app
Wait a sec.
Close app
Clear cache
Open app
Should work for many. If not try clearing data then Open and do all the above steps

[near timber]

Dawg ikr 😂😂😂

[undone shell]

nice app, i like it

[near timber]

Your telling that to a dude who went to college

To learn how to code

To say "I made it up'

[hollow sapphire]

I admit that I went there completely by guesswork!
I put in some test lyrics!
some random styles, and hop!
this comes out ^^

[near timber]

That's crazy

[near timber]

Oh makes sense

[worn flicker]

They are screwing with you

[near timber]

Oh

My bad then 😂

[unique stone]

The app isn't going to have 1:1 parity with website features initially. Expect it to have the basic functionality only for now.

[tawny hound]

You laugh but why.

Tested with scientific methodology. Ran location to test process. Apk extracted then tore down the resulting zip and files.

I've been doing dev work for 20+ years now.

Where is the issue with having a fully formated version of instructs??. Where are the instructs wrong.

[hollow sapphire]

Je crois que c'est not very good pour le instant ^^ 😂

[near timber]

Ayo 😅

[worn flicker]

Did you reply to the wrong person

[near timber]

Yk I hate to say but people have diffent knowledge with programming

Is what I'm getting at

[tawny hound]

You and chiku. My apologies chihuahua was one who laughed.

[near timber]

Hmmm

[tawny hound]

Damned autocorrect. I'm not changing it this time.

[worn flicker]

Ah. I am also a dev. So we all know stuff...lol

[near timber]

Same

[worthy onyx]

Hello. Is there anywhere to write a support ticket?

[near timber]

Although my way is different then it way

[unique stone]

Pretty sure this flags a song as sounding bad, so the devs can ensure future models are tweaked away from producing such bad results. Not sure of the exact details but given they don't touch released models I can only guess it helps them train the next.

[near timber]

I only have 24+ years

[unique stone]

Email [e-mail]

[tawny hound]

Exactly. But what's wrong with giving a full breakdown with base numbers for people to check to help rather than. Just generic clean cache hope

[near timber]

Nothing

[worn flicker]

Let's all boot into recovery and get clear the dalvik cache on my rooted Epic

[tawny hound]

Then why the laugh

[worthy onyx]

Thank you. I wrote there.

[gritty badger]

This worked for me, thanks man 🙏 Unfortunately no extend, no cover, no remaster, no crop, no stems and no ReMi exists, the list can still go on.. Disappointed to be honest.

[near timber]

The laugh was bc others didn't notice what you sent

Wasent meant anything towards you

[unique stone]

I've seen it before... I think it's under the Report menu? I could be wrong.

[worn flicker]

Lol also means no harm intended these days...lol

[tawny hound]

Ahh shit. My bad bro. Honestly thought you were mocking rofl. Been a bad day bit no excuse for me. Sorry lads

[worn flicker]

Quicker than a smiley face

[near timber]

Ur fine

[dark spire]

My favorite part about the new app is that I can now create unusable songs with shimmer on my phone & waste more credits. /s

[worn flicker]

One step closer to.......the next....stuff...that...I got nothing...

[dark spire]

Still waiting on the better version of v4 they promised after 2 weeks.

[worn flicker]

I don't know why they keep quoting times. This is their biggest issue. It's better to say nothing than to miss a time frame. Or just say soon.

[dark spire]

Honestly, I don't use AI apps on my phone so I'm annoyed that they launched this before fixing v4.

[unique stone]

It hasn't been 2 weeks yet though. Tomorrow it will have been 2 weeks.

[worn flicker]

Do you actually expect them to hit the time frame this time? Lol. They have not hit one yet.

[dark spire]

And my plan renews next week & I've been unable to produce much that is usable for the past month. When they teased v4 I decided to wait to use a bunch of credits so I'd have plenty & then v4 has been bad & they messed up 3.5 as well so basically they stole my money for a month.

[worn flicker]

I'm not being mean. I'm saying they should stop cutting themselves so short

[calm coyote]

Hey, is anybody else having the Android app Just stay on the suno screen.

[unique stone]

🤷‍♂️
If it is tomorrow it's not going to fix shimmer though.
That's my main concern. And I'm worried people are expecting that within the 2 weeks mentioned about general fixes.

[worn flicker]

Shimmer in generative AI is not an easy fix. There are so many different timings and pre and post processing and approaches that may almost but not quite work. Then it is time to spends tons of money retraining the whole freaking model.

[unique stone]

Yeah I felt the pain from that. Being unable to say "v4 is beta, just use v3.5 for now" was hard since cover/persona were locked for v4 initially...

[dark spire]

My 3.5 songs since v4 has been a step backward.

[soft pawn]

why would they release it if it's not ready? Genuine question. What is the actual benefit of releasing an app that has less than 1/3 of the functionality of the browser version?

[dark spire]

Just not as dynamic, IMO.

I do a majority of instrumentals & 3.5 just isn't as good as v4 for what it comes up with. The shimmer isn't there but the melodies are not as catchy.

[unique stone]

Define "ready"? It lacks functionality yes but it has basic functionality that will be added to over time. There are loads of fake Suno apps that people keep using, mistaking it for the real thing. Now there is an official one.

It's not even been officially announced yet so there are issues with everyone trying to use it at the same time, it seems.

[soft pawn]

There was no reason to release it early. They already had preregistration, so people KNOW there is an official version coming - that should be enough to combat the fakes until the official app is ready.

There is just too much missing to justify it being out as it is right now, as a consumer.

[unique stone]

I can't see it. Would there have been a need for moderator action at all? E.g. users arguing?

[naive quail]

how dare they! 😄

[unique stone]

I'm sure others will find it useful. Just pretend it didn't get released until it has the features you want.

[narrow sinew]

hi there
is anyone else have problem with replace section when that you try to fix some words but it gose over and try to change stuff that i did not even type or selected

[unique stone]

How long ago did you post it? (I'll see if I can check logs etc)

[final ivy]

anyone able to use android suno?

I just can't open it

Stuck in the opening image

[jade nacelle]

So the app lacks alot of control the website has.
No option to extend the song, no options to cover, or am i missing that? No editing option either. Whats the point of the app at that point?

[final ivy]

Tried, this piece of sweetie just never works

Btw I'm using s23ultra, so it shouldn't be my phone's issue

China, but with globally vpn

[stiff bronze]

Is this me or the android app doesnt work ?
Google Pixel 6 Pro

[final ivy]

Able to use ios, and website version

But not android

[final ivy]

Metoo

[neat nexus]

There's some stuff being worked on in the background. This is a known issue.

Sorry that you've been hit by it too.

[feral surge]

Once again owning a Google Pixel 6 Pro has screwed me

[final ivy]

I've tried a lot of network nodes.😩

[final ivy]

I have a 9pro, it doesn't worth it at all

[hollow hare]

I suspect it may have to do with the amount of people trying to access around the same time as well 🤔

You really are not missing much, it is simple features at the moment. Pretty much Explore, Library, Create (no Extend, etc. at the moment from what I can see)

[final ivy]

Suno is consuming all my patience

[stiff bronze]

France

[feral surge]

Yeah I see a pretty clear pattern of people with Pixel 6 Pros not being able to use the app.

[final ivy]

They need a whole week to reply a single email

[feral surge]

So it has nothing to do with geographic locations.

[final ivy]

After three week, my subscription issue still not fixed

my pixel 9 pro can access, but only the first time

😂

Second time too mf😂

I'm totally confused

Amazing servers even calculating how many times u have accessed

[feral surge]

Oh hey it worked for me on like the tenth time. Maybe the servers are just getting slammed

[final ivy]

Maybe just let us know that this sweetie works

Though only one time

👁️👄👁️👍

[violet mesa]

Hi there, just got the suno app for android.. but it's more like a screen saver..lol

[crude jetty]

I have a 7base

[violet mesa]

Na.. nothing

[fast scaffold]

Was about to say the same thing it auto downloaded to my phone but it's just a suno page with no loading, stuck forever

[wheat rose]

glad its not just me having the app not work at all!

[final ivy]

ugly ui

[crude jetty]

it's basic, as Lumine said

this isn't the iphone app. not yet

[final ivy]

Bruh why is suno doing this android 6 stuff

Even WeChat look better than this

[crude jetty]

I suspect this is more meant as a testign app, getting everything working

well... you need dark mode on your phone 😛

[final ivy]

Samsung can do individual settings

Not sure about pixel, might need abs or root

[crude jetty]

I'm on android 15 on a pixel. that's as base android as you get

I don't dig through everything because it's situated as I like it

[final ivy]

Damn pixel is like a OutOfChina Huawei

High price with low quality

Why people still buying this

[crude jetty]

Pixel is the reference phone

and I don't know about you.. but $1500 to repair a foldable phone, is insane

[frosty cypress]

well that app is.. useless.. ill stick with browser thank you.

[foggy wing]

The Android app is not a Suno app, it is merely a Suno player.
It took me a while to even find the like-buttons for the songs.
Creating and sorting does not even seem to be an option.

My workflow is that I listen to the 10-20 versions of a song I have made when going back and forth to work, sorting out and narrowing it down to only one left. Not even that is easily possible in this "app".

[final ivy]

Foldable phone is more like a toy to me, I use s24 and s23ultra and a iPad for daily

[crude jetty]

I had a Razr, I liked it, then the battery died

$1500 to fix a $500 phone

[frosty cypress]

im still rocking my s10+, its done me well

[unique stone]

The site seems very heavy so this doesn't surprise me. If I use it on my phone for a while it gets pretty warm.

[crude jetty]

I took my pixel in to fix, $128 because of how new it is

[final ivy]

😂it seem a little bit weird but you make me feel that pixel is cheaper than Samsung in ur place

Actually here my s23ultra i bought it when it released it only took about 980 dollars

the s24only 580

[crude jetty]

s24: $800 Pixel8: $700

[lean idol]

Anyone knows about registering suno songs we made? some people are reusing my songs on youtube without credit me

[frosty cypress]

s10+ was $1500 new... thats why i still have it.

[final ivy]

But pixel 9 pro xl here need 1240 dollar

[frosty cypress]

i think you have to be registered as an artist first? but even without that you can just copywrite strike the video, as long as you have something on youtube showing you released it before they did.

[crude jetty]

8pro is $1000 so is the 9XL

[final ivy]

Just download and use ur player, it's much more hopeful than wait suno

[crude jetty]

the 9fold is $1800

[frosty cypress]

youtube also has "music" storage you can use

[lean idol]

I'll wait to see if they remove it and if not I'll make a claim, thanks for your comment.

[final ivy]

YouTube music has the worst sound quality

I play hifi stuff😭 just can't bear low quality music after years

[frosty cypress]

haven't tried it myself, but isn't that feature just google drive?, so why would they re compress the audio?

its just for your use, not public

[final ivy]

I perfer just use local players, they are compatible for high quality musics and not battery consuming

[final ivy]

It's more convenient have to admit

Platforms like Spotify, tidal

[frosty cypress]

i still use winamp on desktop so understand that

[wheat rose]

welllll so the app opened and logged me in, asked me if I wanted to use v4, which I said yes, then it took me to their create page with v3.5 selected

[final ivy]

🌚

U need to subscribe first

[frosty cypress]

i opened it, went to my library, couldn't sort anything, closed it.

[wheat rose]

I am subscribed to the highest tier and logged in

[final ivy]

I have same issue too

Subscribed but still as a normal plan

[wheat rose]

I like how the "library" page doesn't include a search function, which is probably just as well since search in the web app is so useless

[final ivy]

They reply one message per week and never solve my problem so I just changed my way of paying and brought another time

[final ivy]

Does your credit increase?

Or still 50 per day

[frosty cypress]

iphone - you get to make videos and who knows what else. android - enjoy your broke ass app

[wheat rose]

dunno I buy the 100k plan

just as well I don't see a mobile app as being partucularly useful for my workflow but I thought it might be nice to have my library easily available

[dark spire]

Anyone else have helpful hints on how to get clean intros that aren't cut off on instrumentals in v3.5? I tried putting "clean intro" in the style & that isn't helping. Also getting a song longer than 1:30 would be helpful too.

[frosty cypress]

the fact that I cant even access my playlist makes the apps completely useless for even the most basic functionality

[charred merlin]

Wouldn't the most basic functionality be creating a simple mode song?

[frosty cypress]

don't feel like waisting credits in the app but you can cant you?

[charred merlin]

Agreed, the app is geared toward new-to-casual users, and doesn't offer the same features as the desktop app, but hyperbole doesn't really serve a productive conversation.

It's not designed to be the same experience -- it's not my preferred method of creating, but it's an option. If I'm out & about, and have the urge to experiment with a genre, it's nice to have a platform to do so that isn't susceptible to the annoyances of using a mobile browser (accidentally zooming in or refreshing the page, etc)

[frosty cypress]

here you go suno, I used it.. https://suno.com/song/4b79fd9e-9563-4e1e-9d33-209397624135

[charred merlin]

Agreed -- it seems geared toward new-to-casual users for sure, especially when they were pushing Scenes. I wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting my mom to choose to style prompts etc, but taking a picture of something & getting a song back is a frictionless process.

It's "a toy feature" for people who want to use Suno with more potential, but the fact that it introduces music production to a new audience is pretty neat 🙂

[hollow sapphire]

🇫🇷 Well!
I tested the Suno Android app, big smile at first, but quickly wiped off my face, when it crashed at first after a single song.
That said, not discouraged, I went back 20 minutes later, and it works!
Ok, let's go...
I make a request by prompt directly through the Suno AI, by including a style in my request!
Miracle, well... In fact it's not ugly!
But I would probably never enter my own lyrics and tags, on such a small screen^^ 🧐

[modest nexus]

Hello, what does the remaster v4 does?

[frosty cypress]

mostly used to make a shimmery version of v3.5 songs

its supposed to to upgrade 3.5 songs, but that shimmer gets crazy

[urban sonnet]

👆 what he says.. (instant spends some of your credits to make a shimmer version)

[unique stone]

Yeah unless you want to test and upvote/downvote to give general feedback on v4, if you're intending on using it for anything serious, I'd wait a bit until things have been fixed.

[polar spade]

I assume so and will look at the app as a fun toy to see if it feels and operates in a fun way. But then, it's just a matter of waiting a week for the android users to pop in with questions.

[frosty cypress]

it also depends on the style of music, music with a lot of snare, rim shots, and cymbals seem the worst, a lot of my heavier metal songs that are more kick and toms then anything have much less shimmer,

[neat nexus]

https://help.suno.com/en/articles/3591617

[proper quiver]

how come I open the Android app and nothing is happening?

it's just a picture

[polar spade]

It follows a bit, but still odd, but many of my songs are folks, neugrass, Americana, acoustic and such. So guita and vocal without shimmer.

But one recently I added an extention with more instruments. The hiss started about 2 second after or during the beginning of the instrumental (2 flattop, a bass and brush drums) and stopped 2 seconds before the instrumental ends.

It was a "studio" sound rather than "live" in .. 4.0. Each occurrence, though less common with my music, is also at odd times that don't have a common theme accept maybe a porr emulation of reverb and overtones.

[normal grove]

Suno app doesn't work on android by the look of it.

I get the same, just an image and nothing happens.

[proper quiver]

that is so strange

[outer acorn]

I could enter but it only has create option (no extend or other usefull stuff) and ofc no free v4 as they say

[frosty cypress]

mine did that at first, closed and reopened and got the "app"

[outer acorn]

I guess they'll hotfix it

[polar spade]

Maybe Relative to the user than all androids. Works on my samsung android fold 5.

[normal grove]

Okay, well I have an S24 Pro and it doessn't work on that.

1TB version.

[frosty cypress]

yeah, that's been my experience, I do a lot of really heavy rock or metal, or acoustic stuff, shimmer wasn't that bad, not really noticeable.. then i did a grunge song. holy hell, shimmer city.

[normal grove]

Not fussed as I can use the website, just letting people know so it might get fixed.

[frosty cypress]

and that sucks, because other then that, it was a great song.

[polar spade]

Cool. I have an s24 as well. I'll d/l also and see what's up. Thanks.

[teal compass]

I installed the SUNO Android app, but when I open it just show an image with no functions at all, it does nothing

[hushed chasm]

App is probably going through some hiccups. I was able to login but then got a 404 error message afterwards.

[normal grove]

It's fine, website works really well, so plenty of time to fix those little issues.

[teal compass]

I'm not even geting an option to login

[polar spade]

I would just bet they're yelling at me saying "Hey we didn't officially announce or email of it's release. We just had to make available to do further tests" haha...

[tacit thorn]

Just got approved to speak on use cases for AI in music at a national conference, excited to give Suno another platform

[neat palm]

Oh you guys call it a shimmer, i was trying to figure out how to describe that weird sound in nearly every song i made

[tacit thorn]

If any team want to touch base prior to this presentation please reach out

[normal grove]

I just uninstalled and reinstalled and it fixed it.

It installed itself as a pre-registered download, maybe that caused a glitch.

[rough pelican]

saying "some" in the announcement about shimmer is borderline gaslighting HAHAHA jk

[proud ravine]

Can someone please fix that crazy shimmer echo sound.... 🙏

[raven turtle]

The Android app is pretty useless for me I'm afraid. Limited functionality and it's saying I've got 548 songs left, but on desktop I've 2800 credits.

[frosty cypress]

yeah, calculation is off aparently 2800 credits should be 560 songs

[timid wasp]

So Suno’s ultimate response was to 1) not reimburse me for the lost credits and 2) keep my 100 dollars I spent despite my accounts accidental deletion and 3) not restore any of my lost tracks

Basically they created an unclear link in the mobile and desktop app, and took all my stuff away and kept my money.

Hurray. I got screwed.

I want my money back.

After a month of back and forth with customer support, they ultimately have shown me the door and kindly asked me not to let it hit me on the way out.

Since this company isn’t in the states I can’t complain to anyone.

So I’m complaining here.

Suno stole money from me is my opinion on this one

Take it for what it’s worth and be cautious.

[frosty cypress]

you're just complaining to users really

[timid wasp]

Yeah well

I need to complain lol

[frosty cypress]

never seen anyone from suno in here

[timid wasp]

I don’t care, take it as a cautionary tale.

I’ll leave the server soon.

Because I’m never spending money with them or using the service again.

[polar spade]

There are a number of names.. and symptoms. There is a hiss.. a flutter... a whisper thump like a sewing machine to a harder one similar to a helicopter blade..... a wubble-wubble sound or effect to the overall music... and a "cassette tape" effect, especially at the end of songs - fidelity kinda fades in and out. Anything that might be deemed a noise is now thrown in the term of shimmer... but yet there is also this high hiss'n'flutter ( like a bat-a-marang whizzing by your head) that started the name shimmer. Its also for that tinny reverb feel (like a chorus preset with a mild phase shifter added) since day one that lingers and often distinguishes a AI song from a studio production... so far. But the voice clarity and fidelity has come to the better.

For me, i may get one of them "shimmers" every 8th "finished" song... more so on extensions and "overly produced" and layered pieces. So that equals about 1 of every 15 gens.

I'm focused on finding ways to circumvent them, trying to learn the hacks until I won't need them, rather than work solutions offline using a DAW as most using suno will just want to make a nice song.

But others have helped cipher what the issues may be by taking offline, dividing the stems out, and rerunning through their DAWs and even reloading a few to go back and use some of Sunos tools.

[raven turtle]

Scrub that. It's now saying 0 songs left today. Errr... I'm a paying sub with 2800 credits. Plus I can usually get a usuable demo song to take into Logic within 2 - 4 credits.... KKAAAAHHHNNN!!!!

[timid wasp]

Thieves.

[lunar anvil]

Suno Inc. HQ is in Cambridge, MA., USA. Consumer complaints for USA based companies can be directed to ftc.gov/complaint.

[lunar anvil]

The Suno Knowledge Base lists only limited reasons where a Refund is possible which are described in the Terms of Service. https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2550209

[charred merlin]

It's a crappy situation they're in, to be honest -- the "delete account" button is really accessible on the iOS app, and knowing that it can entirely wipe your account without a chance of recovery is alarming, for sure.

[lunar anvil]

Deletion of an account is unfortunate. However, Suno's Knowledge Base state Deleting an account is a permanent action and cannot be recovered. https://help.suno.com/en/articles/3480577

[charred merlin]

I think it does, but I can understand there being a degree of confusion between the Apple account side of things and the Suno account.

Either way, it's unfortunate to pay a big chunk of cash, then not have the means to use the app store's "restore purchase" or anything -- I understand there's complications regarding direct app purchases vs extras, but it's the first public instance that I'd seen.

[lunar anvil]

The KB article says there is a confirmation step.

[charred merlin]

Since there's zero way to delete your account from the desktop without explicitly emailing [e-mail], it's not unreasonable that someone would be surprised that the iOS app would have the ability to nuke your account.

Regardless, it's never nice when someone gets told that the company is unwilling to issue a one-time accommodation in regards to the $100 they're now out -- we're not privy to the entire conversation, but I at least empathize with them as a creator -- they spent $100 because they wanted to support the platform and create with it, so being asked to subscribe again might be a hard ask at this point. Community empathy doesn't fix the matter for them, but it's good that we're aware this can be an outcome 🙏

[paper comet]

does anyone have a clue how to stop Suno from repeating verses I don't want, it always ruins the song and goes past the 4 minute limit

[polar spade]

It is on the Android app too, so I ran away from that page.

@timid wasp It's a hard hit to have an account inadvertently remove for whatever reason. I know we made efforts to figure out what happened, but it ended up being making logical decisions about two accounts which ended in the wrong one getting removed. It's like a house fire without insurance.

I champion your creative fervor and know you can just knock out 100 more great pieces of work, here or elsewhere. And in 5 years, you won't miss the $100.

Go in whatever direction you think is best, but get back into the creative end soon.

[lunar anvil]

Suno likes to repeat verse 2. Try to change up your lyrical structure is the usual suggestion.

[jade mist]

So we’re not getting the better model this week?

[paper comet]

I genuinely tried, changed it in so many ways, but to be honest, the longer ones it likes to repeat, the ones I wish to be around 3:30

I reworked the lyrics to suit it, shortened it (even if it doesn't work)

[lunar anvil]

You could extend the song after Verse 2 and build verse by verse. I have had to do that on multiple occasions to get the pacing I wanted and to prevent Suno from doing its own thing.

[paper comet]

do not get me started on short ones I accustomed it to be punk rock

for some reason, it likes to play Dead Kennedys on some ocassions

[lunar anvil]

Have you tried using a [Pre Chorus]? Sometimes this helps combat the Verse 2 repeat.

[paper comet]

tried, 3 out of 5 times it didn't worked, 2 out of 5 worked perfectly

[broken knot]

It's aggravating af using Suno when you're trying to make a slight change to the order of the lyrics or a Pre-Chorus or something in an extended clip. It ignores whatever I write in the lyrics box and it just does whatever was originally there. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?

[lunar anvil]

Building verse-by-verse is the only sure way to get past the repeats. Or use replace and delete that section from the song.

[broken knot]

Is this sort of what you're already talking about? Lol. That's crazy.

[paper comet]

like having lets say bridge or pre-chorus, but when it needs to continue, it just goes back two verses, happened to me, one of my best songs that would've been a banger for hallucinating and repeating four lines beforehand made it 30 seconds longer, preventing it from being a full and proper one

and it sometimes just straight up gets dementia, forgets mid line what the lyrics are, and get back those four lines back

[broken knot]

It won't add breaks or pauses or instrumental bits where it's supposed to. I swear they designed this to waste credits

It just wants to add more and more wall to wall singing. It's stupid

[paper comet]

usually I don't mind this, but I'm writing rock operas, some songs are designed to be good, so I don't care for storytelling ones what music is meant to be, but it gets irritating when it repeats when it shouldn't have, imo, there should be a limiter to how long you want a song to be

[lunar anvil]

The lack of DAW like capability to edit the songs after the generations makes us waste credits trying to get the songs just right if we want to keep the songs on Suno's platform.

[broken knot]

Even selecting "instrumental" gives you 99.9% wall to wall singing. Suno never fixed this thing.

[lunar anvil]

I understand that we can always download and use an off line DAW, but that doesn't help my songs that are still on the Suno platform.

[broken knot]

Eventually, they will add basic DAW, or Udio will. Udio is working on "innovative features" which I've already speculated may include some basic DAW functions

[proper quiver]

when i decided to share my song, the app asked me if Suno has changed my life. I selected answer "meh". And it then did not let me share the song )))

[broken knot]

But that's a different issues from the wall to wall singing and the ignoring of whatever is in the lyrics box

[lunar anvil]

I would hope they integrate some of the features from something like Suno Team Keith's https://wavtool.com into Suno. That would put Suno on an entire different level.

[paper comet]

there's this little technique called "lying af"

[proper quiver]

WavTool has gone offline.
We built WavTool to ensure that AI creates a world with even more precious, creative, and obsession-worthy music. Although the product has been taken offline, we are far from done with the mission. Everything you love about WavTool will return soon, and let us assure you: it will be worth the wait.

We'll have more to announce in the coming months, and in the mean time we would love to hear your feedback and ideas for the future of AI-accelerated music production - just send us an email at [e-mail].

Thanks for being with us,

[proper quiver]

but why AI cares? :)))

[paper comet]

this is literally me when someone lies straight to my face and I don't care

[lunar anvil]

Not exactly sure why you posted what they said on their web page as a reply.

[lunar anvil]

Pi ai cares. They trained it to be both sympathetic and empathetic which makes Pi conversationally supportive and emotionally attuned for meaningful interactions.

[paper comet]

i remember once Grammarly asked if I need help after writing s-word story

[naive quail]

A lot of this likely has to do with the prompting. I do instrumentals all the time and rarely have unwanted vocals slip in anymore. Prompt noise (chains of slashes or other symbols/punctuation) helps a LOT with that - giving Suno something to chew on that it won't actually try to sing...

I just cooked this one as a quick test and only listened to the first 30s, but I bet it doesn't have vocals (except maybe a meow at the end): https://suno.com/song/22a9ec78-2a07-44b2-86dd-be61f846be83

[broken knot]

I have my own daw setup, but it would be nice to have an option to produce a mastered track already ready for release. These services don't do that. But the thing about repeating the vocals and reverting back to whatever lyrics I wrote originally, not letting me change it in extended clips needs to be addressed as soon as possible.

[lunar anvil]

What is your DAW setup?

[broken knot]

Im talking about adding instrumental parts in songs with vocals. If vocals are slipping into pure instrumentals, that's wild.

[naive quail]

prompt noise works there too, tho...

[broken knot]

Really extensive and I have one of the best "noise reduction" setups that anyone probably has. I use a lot of different plug-ins. Sonnox etc.

[broken knot]

It wants to add the Pre-Chorus I want later on in the song first, then after a lot of singing it goes into whatever I asked for. It overrides new instructions and follows original instructions.

It's aggravating af and I hope they fix it so it stops eating credits

[pearl onyx]

I have a question.
I am trying to make a bilingual duet with both male and female voices.
It's a rather complex structure for the song and other services I've tried all failed.
So before I upgrade and the the ver 4.0, is this something that is possible?

Chalenging as in using metatags in the lyrics itself, or prompting?
Because ither services I've tried just ignore the tags

[warped furnace]

Now, that's a tall order. 😅 Not even 3.5 could do duets with certainty. Two languages adds to the pile. I made one English/Spanish that worked but it wasn't a duet.

[broken knot]

Thank you for your suggestions. I wish it was working. I'll try again after I eat my Wendy's. ... this song is almost killer. I need to finish it without Suno going apeshit and eating hundreds of credits

[torn spoke]

I'll see if I can't remove it from the entire thing

[broken knot]

Easy, straightforward duets and better instruction following in extentions will be epic.

[torn spoke]

for reference

[pearl onyx]

Yeah, it worked pretty good.
I did Japanese and English.
Now I try to isolate the Eng to be a male voice and Jap to be female. But I see that for advanced features I should upgrade from free.
Just checking if it is a viable platform for this kind of stuff.

Thanks for the info.

[broken knot]

Sometimes randomly, by accident, without prompting. Lol

[naive quail]

Once you get the hang of it, duets are pretty easy and can be fun, but as @tribal remnant pointed out, there's definitely a learning curve.

[pearl onyx]

I managed to make some duets on ilovesong.ai, but not bilingual.
That is a pretty solid platform. But the AI just ignores the metatags it should follow. So it's not consistent even at the best of times.
So I was looking for an alternative.
My music style is evolving, and apart from making just Japanese songs I wanted to make some mixed ones.

[outer thunder]

Until "shimmer" is fixed (stems don't work, they just make the whole thing muddier), they should switch the models: V4 free, V3.5 paid only. I had no idea shimmer was THIS bad, but I get it in every crash or white noise sample generated. Depending on the genre, these are everywhere. V4 is therefore pretty much useless for serious work, because it has this very audible "AI" watermark. It's still great for meme songs and stuff, so they would probably benefit from free users having access to it & it's already watermarked 🙂
Real talk: V4 generations should be refunded. Also why the hell do I have to crop an upload to use v3.5 on it. That sounds like a simple UI fix that should have been done immediately.

[naive quail]

coughs

[unique stone]

Pretty sure ilovesong is a fake AI music gen that just uses Suno in the background anyway

[naive quail]

They were actually stealing Suno's service 😄

[unique stone]

I hope you didn't log in with an account you care about or pay anything to that site

[pearl onyx]

Really? I didn't knew that. Then it will make even more sense to just work with the source.

[unique stone]

Yeah they just increase the model number by 1 so it looks newer 😆

[pearl onyx]

Unfortunately I did pay.
So I could use the songs I've generated commercially. It's all my own lyrics, I just don't play instruments besides drums. So to bring my songs to life I've used it for few months now.

[torn spoke]

doesn't flow that well

the lyrics

then again I don't like the gengre

so I'm biased

[pearl onyx]

It seems to follow the metatgs pretty well.
I think it's a great showcase for that

[torn spoke]

Oh cmon

I was doing an evil laugh

It doesn't look good without all caps

[unique stone]

Ah. Heh... Services that essentially are being powered by Suno usually are not paying to use the service and instead sit on a large pool of free accounts. So technically they have no right to offer commercial use of the songs, since Suno's free plan doesn't allow commercial use.

That said, you weren't to know this and I doubt it will cause an issue.

[eternal bronze]

I have purchased the Pro version, but haven't received any credits. I wanna make a song within 2 days. Kindly help me out ASAP.

[broken knot]

Literally nothing works. I'm going to have to really comprise on my artistic vision and just select the least terrible option. Because Suno has a mind of its own.

[north sleet]

I am always chasing more than one voice in songs, but it doesn’t always work out. Here is my collection https://suno.com/playlist/6e8ef120-ffa3-45d4-8e23-ba6207b6f7f9

[modest nexus]

Is there a possibility to view my thrash/deleted items?

[broken knot]

Suno v4 is half baked. I hope v5 is a finished product. Beta testing for Suno and Udio is getting grim.

[jade mist]

Any info if we get the new model before 25 of this month

[naive quail]

might be worth sharing it here to let others take a crack at it

[lunar anvil]

We only know what is in #📢┃announcements.

[broken knot]

Not really, odds are it'll be out around July or August and time really does fly.

New features, more realistic audio quality. All of this and more will be ours... v5.

Some guys are already talking about Suno v10 and v15. Lol.

[broken knot]

They said "new model in two weeks" but that appears unlikely according to today's announcement. However, I certainly expect a v4 hotfix by Christmas.

[eternal bronze]

Hi, I have purchased the Pro version, but haven't received any credits. Can anyone help me with this

[broken knot]

I get it. What are you suggesting? That v4 is the last model they will ever release?

[broken knot]

Try writing to suno support and waiting two days

[unique stone]

Please contact [e-mail] as you were advised in the other channel: #💬┃general-chat message

[eternal bronze]

The App

[eternal bronze]

I have

[broken knot]

Then wait for the response. They usually take a day or two to respond.

[eternal bronze]

Okay thanks

[verbal mortar]

Anyone know if there is a size limit on images? I keep getting a network error when I try to change an image on a song. but I think its cause its 2048x2048

[lunar anvil]

I always thought #📚┃suno-school was the discussion of the technical process of working with Suno (aka prompt engineering). It seems everyone thinks this is the technical support channel.

[hushed frost]

Well, they don't have an android bug report channel

[unique stone]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1314280428181520435

[hushed frost]

Must be new

[unique stone]

Yup. Added a couple of hours ago.

[broken knot]

Can't change lyrics from "can't you see?" To "you can see" suno just repeats the older version and ignores the lyric box. Who designed it to be so random and to shove vocal singing where it's not wanted. Savage credit wasting setup.

I agree with the people who argue we should get 2x our credits next month to make up for what a disaster the v4 Suno has been. I've never requested it before, but I saw other people requesting it. That would go a long way to restoring faith with their users.

But it's like waiting for Pip to fart on a snare drum. They designed this to eat credits.

Personas got ruined with v4, yeah. We all noticed. Crossing our fingers they fix a small amount of the issues someday soon.

Yeah, they ruined persona when they launched v4. Before v4, it worked how we wanted it to.

[torn spoke]

@west otter

[west otter]

Are you using the website or the actual app? As i'm using the app, and I don't see any of that on here

[torn spoke]

..........

The apps aren't fleshed out

go on a browser

[west otter]

Does the website work overall better than the app?

[torn spoke]

Duh

If it didn't no one would be here lol

[west otter]

Damn... lol

[unique stone]

Ahhh I didn't realise you were using the new app.
Yeah the website is a lot older and has way more features.

[torn spoke]

This service is awesome, the apps are experiemental ngl

[west otter]

I'll definitely keep that in mind Thank you guys!! 🙏

[jade creek]

Anyone else have issues downloading their WAV files?

[north sleet]

I never use covers except in rare cases. I never get good results using them.

[vital edge]

Hi. is the replace feature under v4 better than the 3.5? I always get issues with the v4 model.

Yes, but remastered

Perhaps, the issues only occur for foreign languages other than English...

[rose plank]

this was a track i generated then put it in a voice dub that was trained on atillas voice

[heavy pivot]

invite people is working?

i invited some friends but we dont receive nothing

why im not receiving friends credits???????????

[rose plank]

heres a project i did where i made a song in the conlang then used the cover to translate it into english https://suno.com/song/1978245d-e59b-4f26-847c-53e71cfe3043

[warped furnace]

It's best to contact [e-mail]. Happened to me, too. Had to write four mails until I got my credits.

[rose plank]

if you click that you should be able to see the original

[rose plank]

https://suno.com/song/eaa9cc3d-6a87-43d3-8d88-bdbd58e3f620 theres the original

i think its a cool use of covers

[blissful rampart]

Hey do you know if the shimmer that's really noticeable in V4 has been fixed? I need to rework a few songs to get rid of that shimmering

That's all good. Hopefully there is an announcement then. 👍

[crude jetty]

it's been worked on, it's not foolproof yet, but I'm getting less shimmering than before

[prime anvil]

there's still a lot, depends on your track's sounds

[crude jetty]

https://suno.com/song/c1db0c48-d643-407e-8fdd-3b4c5ed1af34 <This is the V4

https://suno.com/song/74585366-f42e-4e07-8c39-1a31d1e6c4b3 <This is the V3.5

you can hear the shimmering in the 3.5 starting in verse 2 in v4 it's gone. it takes a few generations, but it does actually get rid of it

[crude jetty]

Personas did it in v3.5 as well

on another note.. how does one delete a persona? it's in the trash, but it gives no delete option

[naive quail]

Unfortunately, they can't be permanently deleted.

[crude jetty]

which is dumb cause you can't delete songs they come from

[naive quail]

Yup. It's likely just an oversight, but we'll see

[crude jetty]

has to be, because in 3.5 it would remove them if the song the persona came from got trashed

[crude jetty]

it has to be an oversight, there's no way it's intentional for somethign jnot being used to be stuck on our account

[graceful condor]

I have been getting same "error" I posted it in feedback, where devs can see it. What's worse when it says "delete persona" but that persona doesn't even exist, so I am stuck with songs I can't delete

If you create persona, you should be able to delete it

[naive quail]

It definitely sucks we've been posting about it in the feedback channels since at least the 1st of Nov.

[quartz prairie]

Is there a way you can contact the team?
I tried in the bug channel for a month, nothing.
I tried email, nothing.

I am about to call it quit.

Mike B allows that? Didn't wanna DM anyone not knowing if they allow it.

Thank you, will try to DM Mike.

[ornate spire]

Can you really not extend tracks on the app?

[unique stone]

Not yet.

[sudden field]

did someone hat the bug if you use a persone he will stick to old text lines?

[jade nacelle]

Is V4 broken for covers now?

Can't get it to change to v4. Even trying to do a cover for a v4 song, its going to 3.5

[little granite]

did they do something to the vocals for v4 cause it feels like there off from what they used to be

[naive quail]

It's still working for me in a browser.

[worn flicker]

The persona feature essentially uses a copy of the original song to influence the song you are making currently, sometimes it can poke through because it is still in Beta, many times it is when the lyrics are not different enough.

So, I wanted to use the android app for crop and replace, but it doesn't seem to have those features...are they hidden somewhere? I am gonna go with not implemented yet.

[toxic ridge]

Any way to make vocals that sound insane and unstable emotionally?

[worn flicker]

You can try insane, crazy, hyperactive, horror, scared, Vulnerable, emotional, unpredictable, Male vocals

[worn flicker]

Try different versions all the way down to 3 if necessary.

Maybe Opera Metal Circus Ballad, Unstable Wobbly Male Vocals

[toxic ridge]

https://suno.com/song/21fbedf8-e1c9-4025-bb2f-36321b2b27ba Thoughts? This is stupid and I like it

[worn flicker]

That is awesome. Maybe add Duet with chipmunk vocals

Hey so, anyone else have the trash button disappear in library?

[hollow hare]

It's there for me on the site, are you on the song tab?
Link in case you need: https://suno.com/me/trash

[worn flicker]

While I'm at it, why doesn't the explore page have shimmer?

In Library the option isn't listed

[worn flicker]

It shows up when I actually play the song and use the player options

[vale thunder]

Yeah, it makes it hard to vote on a v4 track too, like i want to down thumbs every v4 generation for the shimmer, but man some of the tracks it makes are pretty decent so i feel bad. For now i dont vote on them and remaster the stems to get my cleaner version. However this ruins the thumbs up/down for getting more specific . not sure how much it matter in the long run. but sems like if you thumbs up a shimmering track it would skew results?

[hollow hare]

It's in the upper right corner

[worn flicker]

No I want to delete a track...lol

[hollow hare]

Ah

[worn flicker]

I'm not trying to get to trash...haha

This is a now thing, even earlier today it was fine

Lemme reboot

Nope. Still gone.

Android Chrome

[hollow hare]

I can't see it in the Desktop Mode view (I use mobile web most of the time).
Seems like they accidentally removed it from that specific menu option? Best to report it at #🪲┃bugs-web

[worn flicker]

Done

Getting worse...lol more stuff is disappearing.

Good thing is it is still in create mode

[teal crow]

https://suno.com/song/70707134-2c14-4ef2-b00d-279650801e32

These people are spamming the search. EDM EDM EDM EDM EDM EDM EDM EDM EDM EDM

##Heres what's most likely happening.

Let me explain why this keyword spamming technique works from a search algorithm perspective:

Term Frequency (TF) Impact:

When "EDM" is repeated hundreds of times, it dramatically increases the term frequency in that document
In classic TF-IDF (Term Frequency-Inverse Document Frequency) scoring, higher term frequency leads to higher relevance scores
Even with dampening functions, extreme repetition still tends to boost rankings

Modern Search Behavior:

Most search engines, including Elasticsearch, use variants of BM25 scoring
BM25 implements diminishing returns for term frequency to reduce spam effectiveness
However, even with diminishing returns, massive repetition still provides some boost
The formula is: score = IDF * (TF * (k1 + 1)) / (TF + k1 * (1 - b + b * docLength/avgDocLength))

Why It Still Works:

Search engines try to balance precision vs recall
Completely ignoring repeated terms could miss legitimate emphasis
Perfect spam detection is difficult without false positives
Some platforms may use simpler scoring that's more vulnerable to this

Semantic Search Aspects:

Modern semantic/vector search might actually be less vulnerable
It looks at context and meaning rather than just keyword counts
However, many systems still combine semantic and keyword matching
The keyword component remains vulnerable to this technique

Potential Mitigations:

Implement term frequency saturation thresholds
Use natural language processing to detect unnatural repetition
Factor in document structure and formatting
Apply penalties for suspected keyword stuffing

[gray inlet]

is there a way to get the lrc file from the mp4 or mp3 dl files

[north sleet]

Verify existence of lyrics in video
ffprobe -i video.mp4

Extract subtitles (example subtitle track 0:s:0)
ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -map 0:s:0 subtitles.srt

Extract metadata which includes lyrics
exiftool video.mp4 > metadata.txt

[gray inlet]

but the meta data will not be synced will it?

[lean crest]

Not being able to use extend in version 3.5 is a bug or a feature?
I mean extending an audio I uploaded.
When trying to extend any uploaded audio, it automatically switches to version 4.

[north sleet]

FFmpeg is a powerful tool for processing audio, video and other multimedia files and realtime streams. Since it works through the command line it makes it perfect for automation and integration with larger workflows.

SRT is for subtitles and would be embedded in the subtitle tracks. Lyrics would be part of the metadata. The LRC file gets embedded into the video file on encode.

[north sleet]

Synchronized Lyrics can either be in the subtitle tracks or in the metadata.

[teal crow]

Yeah. It's srt, there is another format. You can run it through either replicate or there is an opensource library you can run it on colab.

That's how they are generating the video. I have script for generating these videos. They even line up better. Although, I wonder what the challenge is with their video generation, and srt. My guess it has to be the audio.

This is what you can use. to extract it.

https://replicate.com/openai/whisper

This is more complicated,

https://github.com/openai/whisper

There is a lot of this, it's hard to figure out if you haven't done it.

But then you can use that in various files.

I wouldn't setup my own again, I would just use replicate to generate it, if it's not available for download on Suno.

I don't know how that works with audio tracks though. You can probably split the vocals and music. I think that is a feature now.

Yeah, you probably will get a better timeline if you use stems first. But I don't know, because I haven't tested this with music.
You see the stems. I would split it first, but you could test both.

[vale gazelle]

I think I initially posted this in the wrong chat... Any one know a way to reduce shimmer in post? Like stem split them out or eq them out without killing the sound?

[crude jetty]

well, I've had some luck after doign a few regens most of the time

[vale gazelle]

@crude jetty have you had better results with remasters or covers? I've been able to reduce with remasters, but I can get it to totally go away more consistently with covers, but a lot of the specifics i like change

[crude jetty]

I ave it completely gone on remasters

it just takes a few times sometimes

#📚┃suno-school message

#📚┃suno-school message

[vale gazelle]

Wait maybe I'm using the wrong terminoligy. I thought the shimmering was the phone ringing sound in a lot of it reverb and snare his. Does shimmering refer to the overall muddy / degrading sound quality over time?

[crude jetty]

no, it's the clickign that happens all throughout a lot of songs

[vale gazelle]

ohhhh wait so whats the phtone ringing sound?

[crude jetty]

got an example?

[vale gazelle]

Are we allowed to send YouTube links? Just realized I can't make stuff I've recorded and uploaded public on suno

[crude jetty]

yea

you can DM it if you prefer, I don't mind

[vale gazelle]

no worries I have to upload it real quick 😅

[crude jetty]

I will not have time to check it, I have to go to work

[vale gazelle]

no worries
https://youtu.be/y0i72Nrf-FM?si=jp7g-2_TEvUuNKXm

im refering to the cricket sounds on the snare hits and reverb

[frail grove]

Is anybody able to sign in on the android app? Or 404 for everyone.

[stable barn]

when i went pro they said we can run 10 jobs at once. how do i make it do that?

[dense turret]

Hey, is it possible to create one song—using it as a template (persona) because it’s 1:30 minutes long (would be nice in the Feature to Can Control time), has a good beat, and a clean vocal track—and then produce a large batch of essentially the same song but with different names mentioned in the lyrics? For example, one version would be for Anna, another for David, and so on. I need to create 168 such songs. Thx!

[untold briar]

That means you can create Create button 5 times (2 songs each) without waiting for the songs to finish.

[pearl valley]

Try doing a cover song of your finished song then use V4 it has been working good so far for me

[untold briar]

There is no automation like that at the moment, so you just have to do it by hand. Also you will still need to listen to the songs and retry some of them, either for being too similar to the original song, or too different. And yeah, Cover feature may work as well.

[modest coral]

So i'm having a difficult time with the word I want to say wound as in an Injury. But i'm getting it like I wound the clock. How can I write it like phonetically for the Ai to say it correctly

Or more , I have written all the different ways of how to say is... It ends up just spelling it out

[hollow hare]

Woond,woo-nd,wu-nd, wuh-und
Not sure if accents can be used but probably worth a try with something like wūnd

[modest coral]

I confess I am using a voice A.I... And not suno, but I need help.I know this is suno support but it's pissing me off lol Though I want to find you guys who have more experience with ai Perhaps you could be generous to help me.Why the a I voice is not working even though I know it's not suno related

[hollow hare]

Though 4.0 does have problems with pronunciations. In one my gens, it pronounced "giga" as gagi, gaga, gigi, and correctly like 3 times

[hollow hare]

I guess we should leave out the dashes. I wonder if caps would work like WOOnd, waOOND, etc. Hmm

[modest coral]

I using this..was I want to put talking voices into my songs...https://fakeyou.com/weight/weight_a6n11k9bg459hzqnmkc4baexc/morpheus

Oh you can't cap in this app thing as it spells it out

was I wanted him to say OUT! but it just O.U.T lol

[hollow hare]

Sorry but I am not going to spend my time trying to figure out the best way to pronounce it, it likely overlapped with what you already tried

[modest coral]

right. Am not asking you or ordering you too. Am humbling asking who ever, if they want to help me. clearly you dont, and I understand.

[worn flicker]

So, I've seen people post about misspelling words or myself and v4 mispronounced words. I made a quick guide which isn't guide but proof of concept. Of just using cover to correct the pronunciation.
https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1314478274516090951

[simple furnace]

The fake app is back...who in here should I speak to? 2nd time happened... Email took 2 weeks to reply before

[hollow hare]

#💬┃general-chat message

[quartz prairie]

Anyone else having a problem with the AI repeatably refusing to read a part?
The highlighted part it refuses to say in now 14 songs generated.

[glacial scarab]

did you like try to remove the asterisks?

[quartz prairie]

Yeah, I got it to read (Warning, System failure) ones, but then it decided that sentence again didn't exist, the ammount of credits this song is costing.
Never had an issue like this..

Oh great, now it's also repeating the bridge in the chorus, it reads the first chorus line well, then somehow re-reads the bridge..

[copper cloud]

What's a workspace?

[prime prairie]

Still can't get the Android app to allow me to sign in!

[torpid thicket]

Been 2weeks without any changes in fixing the Shimmer - Why? V4 is completely unuseable with that stupid shimmer effect on it

[hollow hare]

Announcement said it will take week__s__ to resolve the issue but an update on the progress within 2 weeks of that posting (which the latest #announcement does cover by saying they are still working on it)

Edit: they specified model, so maybe we might get an update about it today, maybe not. Delays are not unexpected - assuming they did not do shadow updates to the model
#📢┃announcements message

[torn spoke]

does anyone know if it's possible to merge two tracks inside suno? the upload length limit is the bane of my existence right now

[unique stone]

Can't be done. Would be nice though.

[torn spoke]

I'monna make a playlist and put the two halfs in there as a test

[worthy cipher]

Android app when i try to login...

[torn spoke]

what are you trying to login with?

also, delete cookies in the browser that it's opening the login in

(or even better, use the browser version on your phone lol)

[worthy cipher]

Google account or discord. doesn't matter

[worthy cipher]

I want to try v4 in trial version))
In browser version its not work)

[graceful condor]

Hey guys, two hours ago I decided to subscribe to Pro using the Android app and my Playstore budget. In the app it says that my Pro plan is active.

Using suno with the webbrowser doesn't show my subscription. There I am just a basic (free) member. Sorry if this issue has been discussed somewhere already.

[devout pagoda]

Is it just me or the V4 Remaster logo looks lower res?

[polar spade]

Ill assume you may check back in:

/wuːnd/ is the phonetic spelling. But here in Suno, suno does not pronoun phonetics. Your AI may be trained differently.

Otherwise, [wuund] has a good AI rendition of "wound" so you can try that. Keep in mind it may extend the uu sound as it has two u's. But worth a try. Song below shows it's pronunciation in Suno.

https://suno.com/song/9cc301ee-1af2-4e4e-b2f1-c78106f7623c