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astral flame
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And thank you for responding

hollow sapphire
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Hi! Tell me, is there a problem with the 'suno-showcase'? Why doesn't it display the dynamic link like before? :

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untold briar
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If your song is 60s and you Extend at time 20s, then Suno will not have knowledge of the time between 20s and 60s. So the melody of the song may end up very different.

But if you use an audio editor (use find a different section of audio of the original song) to make the voice you want to Extend at 60s, after the 40s melody, then Suno will have knowledge of it.

When you 'Get Whole Song' Suno will always use all the parts together. So if you used an audio editor, this may not create the song you want. The song will have an extra section of audio in front. This is currently a user interface limitation in Suno. You could still download the completed song and edit it to share on YouTube. And I am hopeful that Suno will have better feature to solve that problem soon.

untold briar
hollow sapphire
maiden sparrow
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that generic banner is crap. No one gonna click on my great songs now. 😢

hollow hare
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The embeds will likely be fixed during US working hours today

maiden sparrow
compact sleet
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Hi! I have a PRO plan but I can't download tracks in WAV format...

hollow hare
compact sleet
hollow hare
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All chromium based, hmm. Try Firefox or Safari as they use another engine (I think? Been a long time since I looked up what Safari used)

sharp solstice
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I don't know why, but I think v3 songs have been playing better these days than v3.5. Maybe there's something wrong with the algorithm or something? For example, if you put 'opera' in the style box and make a song with v 3.5, suddenly a song is created with synthwave.

astral flame
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Cheers to the person who made this song title!! It is genius and is the first to show up when searching “suno v4” 🤣

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last roost
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Hi everyone, I've been using Suno Ai with a Premium subscription for several months. Today, unfortunately, I think I've noticed that when I upload an audio file with only voice (content not covered by copyright of course), the system always generates an instrumental track, eliminating my vocal stem. What has changed? Can someone please help me?

hollow sapphire
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suno-showcase is out !!!

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frigid orbit
ripe marsh
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It's not only me, right?

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west sable
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It just stopped working for me, nothing will load lol

willow elm
winter fiber
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Not working too

graceful condor
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Help

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Syno won't load

heady moon
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Same. In google Chrome and Opera suno does not load

graceful condor
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Same here

strong jackal
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same

gilded mist
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You can literally See the "Team" Members come online 🤣

hollow sapphire
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Suno is no longer launching on any browser or app! Any information?

gilded mist
misty knot
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It would be great to have Suno on Downdetector.

gilded mist
rose prism
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A message appeared on the page: 'We are experiencing high traffic. Song creation is temporarily disabled.

marsh stirrup
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anyone facing SUNO cannot be access?

rose jasper
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This is great, people are not able to read 🙂

marsh stirrup
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i thought my account problem, seem that most of us having same issue

charred merlin
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It's not just you -- it's down for everyone.

This isn't a typical "high server load" issue, and appears unprecented.

graceful condor
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aRGHHHH how long????

charred merlin
rose jasper
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This'll be a fun day @charred merlin

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Imagine when the American's all wake up

marsh stirrup
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so the problem now is profile, library and create song cannot be access right? anyone same with me?

exotic fiber
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service not woling for everyone...

charred merlin
exotic fiber
marsh stirrup
exotic fiber
charred merlin
exotic fiber
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I use my account on several devices, no issues...

exotic fiber
charred merlin
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Oh my... no Suno...

It's like taking a guitar to the cottage and snapping all of the strings simultaneously -- well what the heck am I supposed to do now, just compose inside my head like Beethoven or something? 😜

exotic fiber
hollow sapphire
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you have to go to 👉 "System32\taskkill.exe /f /fi "status eq not responding" " and then Suno will responding ... Heu!!! I think so... 😂

charred merlin
turbid sleet
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I can report that udio works flawless at the moment.... PartyParrot

exotic fiber
charred merlin
hoary bough
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

turbid sleet
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sssst, it's a tactic

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now everybody goes there, lowering traffic for us

charred merlin
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I believe they call this "4d chess" 😛

exotic fiber
maiden sparrow
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it crashed because I told everyone about Suno

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I post my songs on dissident websites.

white flint
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fr?

hollow sapphire
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Suno not responding? Don't panic! Our interstellar communication experts suspect that the music AI has been abducted by music-loving aliens to host their next intergalactic karaoke party. We hope it comes back with some out-of-this-world hits! 🛸

waxen nexus
# charred merlin

was just about to post a similar Screenshot till i saw this... dang, just got up and was gonna try a new idea

dusk kettle
# charred merlin

Mine keeps saying creation is only for pro and premier accounts even though I'm logged onto my premier paid account which is odd.

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Finally went through now without the error

pure mica
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infinite creation of the 2 song created only the second is actually created the first one as an infinite loading

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exotic fiber
turbid sleet
last roost
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Notice to all singer-songwriters: if you upload your audio files with your voice, Suno will now only generate instrumental tracks, eliminating the vocal stem.

exotic fiber
neat nexus
idle stirrup
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Hi! My account got a reset, meaning I lost all the songs I created and the billing details. I have 5o credits out of 2300. I had before the outage. Help pls

neat nexus
idle stirrup
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Yes, it's the right account.

subtle swift
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Are you guys down, now? I am a Premier subscriber but cannot generate anything

charred merlin
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@flint haven I don't have the patience, you can announce it then 😛

stoic swallow
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Is something wrong with suno links? I feel like the links are messed up

charred merlin
sullen robin
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Hello, despite having sufficient points, when I press create it rolls a bit but immideatly nothing else happens, is there a way to fix this?

subtle swift
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Yes, sadly

stoic swallow
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Lame

idle stirrup
honest bear
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I wonder if there is a way to up the bitrate for the songs i create? it sounds like a 30bit audio atm.

subtle swift
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I could generate in Edge but not Chrome whidch is the latest version:
Chrome is up to date
Version 128.0.6613.120 (Official Build) (64-bit)

sullen robin
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Ah Chrome might be the issue, I will try edge

charred merlin
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That said, despite Chrome & Edge both being Chromium-based, there's a history of it handling some UI updates differently than others, especially when you consider desktop & mobile browsers

sullen robin
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Nope, same with the edge, not creating anything

fair elk
hollow sapphire
hollow sapphire
charred merlin
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aussi, ca fait plaisir de te voir, mon ami ⚓⚜️, ca va recemment? (also, good to see you, my friend -- how've you been lately)

hollow sapphire
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Currently, my favorite for many reasons, but especially for the multitude of settings and add-ons, is Firefox, which I've actually been using for over 20 years. I also use Chrome for its perfect compatibility with its own modules (including YouTube^^), but it remains secondary in my eyes. Then, there's Edge, which in truth works exactly like Chrome, as it has been based on Chromium since the end of Microsoft's proprietary browser. And then, I had the surprise of a lifetime with the excellent Yandex! Incredibly stable, versatile in every way, super secure, but it suffers from preconceived notions about the covert work it might be doing without our knowledge! Having witnessed the birth of all this, I often marvel at the young developers who come up with these technological innovations. Ha ha, I can't help but think back to the time when we used to program our own lines of code... 🇫🇷

charred merlin
# hollow sapphire Currently, my favorite for many reasons, but especially for the multitude of set...

😅 I love Edge, admittedly I used to think it was rebranded IE, but it holds up, there's a lot of handy features built in, and it just works from my experiences.

That said, having read about the security concerns for Yandex browser, and then realizing the article the stub is cited from also states that Edge should give equal reason for concern.

Ya know, I've always meant to download DuckDuckGo browser, and I suppose now is as good a time as any 😂

hollow sapphire
charred merlin
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I'm gonna get myself in trouble for using tech-chat as offtopic, so I'll continue in DM 😅

--et aujourd'hui est une tres bonne journee, j'ai beaucoup de raisons d'etre excite blue_heart_askew

(discord loses its mind whenever I try to insert accents using alt+codes, apologies 😅 )

hollow sapphire
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DuckDuckGo is still a bit immature compared to the others! But it's a solution, despite the shortcomings...

hollow sapphire
austere dragon
stable talon
austere dragon
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I implore you, suno, get the gender problem on vocals sorted. It's getting to the point where I going to have to put "male vocalist, male vocalist, male vocalist, male vocalist, male vocalist, male vocalist, male vocalist, outlaw country "

charred merlin
austere dragon
austere dragon
charred merlin
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If you try something and it doesn't work, solving it isn't always a matter of trying the same thing 100 times, or finding a way to repeating it 100 times within a single attempt -- you might need to rethink your approach.

charred merlin
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🤝

stable talon
austere dragon
austere dragon
hollow hare
stable talon
charred merlin
austere dragon
safe hazel
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Maybe putting [male] after every verse header is messing it up

austere dragon
austere dragon
safe hazel
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Where did you put "man"? In the style prompt?

stable talon
hollow hare
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I had suspected that vocalist was weighted more towards female vocals, good to know that there is more evidence for it

safe hazel
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Do we think giving our songs a thumbs up or down is actually teaching the AI what we like and altering how it creates stuff, or that it's not really doing anything at all

hollow hare
hollow hare
# safe hazel Do we think giving our songs a thumbs up or down is actually teaching the AI wha...

I know that the team uses the information when training the new models. Mostly the downvoted

I know that it does not affect the model after their release (as they are frozen, which makes sense, you do not want variations to occur).

I do not know if the team may use it between the input and instructions sent to the model but I have my doubts, that would likely use more computational resources for not much gain

safe hazel
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yeah that makes sense

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i downvote all my verse repetition songs, and the songs with abysmal audio quality

austere dragon
hollow sapphire
modest surge
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Hello. New free account don't have 50 credit /day ?
I use 50 credit yesterday and today....still at 0.... why ?

final hazel
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/refresh

flint havenBOT
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Free Credits Refresh

Refreshes at 0000 UTC+0 (<t:1713225600:t> in your localtime)

modest surge
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oh ! Great !!! thanks you !

unique torrent
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Anyone else experiencing songs only being 30 secs long

mental jungle
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Only on extensions that clearly are skipping metatags

vapid dust
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Hey guys I'm new to Suno and I can't seem to get the results I want, do you have any tips to share on the Suno prompt please?
Knowing that the style I'm looking for is music without voices, such as fighting music for anime or RPG.

vital cliff
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Does anyone know how I could influence the beat? I want to have singing vocal samples pitched in the beat.

2.) In my songs, the intro is usually always unclear, even though I separate it clearly.

[intro]
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[verse1]
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I would be very grateful.

cinder slate
granite mountain
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my subscription renewed but can't create any music saying issue with billing but its all paid, anyone else get this?

hollow hare
hollow hare
# vapid dust Hey guys I'm new to Suno and I can't seem to get the results I want, do you have...

Sinply use instrumental tags (https://www.suno.wiki/faq/metatags/instrumental-tags/) to have instrumental music of any genre.
(You could use the instrumental switch but the tags gives more control and reduces chances of hallucinations)

There are many sites that can give you ideas of what genres you may want to use, e.g. video-gams-music. The site I like using is https://rateyourmusic.com

Note that 3.5 is tuned towards the more popular genre, so for more niche genres that you cannot seem to generate music for, try using 3.0 (then extend into 3.5 if you need the additional time).

Or use Audio Upload for your own small created sample using something like FL Studio or a metronome/random tapping recording of the tempo you want to use for the more high-pace songs

hollow hare
# vital cliff Does anyone know how I could influence the beat? I want to have singing vocal sa...

You can use additional metatags (up to 3 per line iirc? Less is better) to help influence the style. Note that the genre and style prompts has a lot more weight and effect on the result than the metatag directions.

E.g.
[Verse] [Angry rap]
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[Verse 2 - Melancholic soulful]
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[Chorus: Gregorian Chant]
Etc.

Do not be afraid to you those other words and test out various combinations. Seek out other songs in the Explore or Home page as well, never know what tricks you may learn!

safe hazel
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Is there any consensus on which format of those three is most likely to work? I dont usually see much impact when I do something like [Chorus: Vocal Harmony]

hollow hare
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Never liked the : one myself but I had seen a few people use it. I think using a comma instead of a colon would have worked

I did not experiment to see the impact of the metatag style so I cannot say, but I should later when I have credits to spare from my current project.

polar spade
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So , I hypothesize [chorus: both] works better than [chorus: both]

cinder slate
safe hazel
naive quail
# safe hazel Keep us updated with what you find please! 🥰

I played around with it a little bit here: https://suno.com/playlist/48ec1c9e-836e-465b-9dd8-2daf43be3e42

I don't think Suno cares one way or the other. It seems to me that, as long as the text isn't considered lyrics to be sung, it'll be processed by Suno and have the potential to influence the style. Feels like an equal chance to me, but... 🤷

Testing [Tag] Styles by @sixstringtoker | Suno

I did 5 generations per style (10 tracks), then picked the track that was the most representative of all the others within each group.

polar spade
# cinder slate lol wut? interesting hypothesis, wonder if it's true... FWIW it's not more "gram...

I stand corrected. You're right. Done away with the death of the typewriter. I should not make such generalizations. It started with my asking suno to create lyrics for alternating vocals. So suno wrote the lyrics with metas of [verse: female], [verse: male] , [chorus: both]. I thought it curious and tried with what i thought was favorable. So less a grammatical thing and more a suno preference? But like flipping a coin, I may have just gotten 5 good runs and stopped. Had I gen-ed 30 more I may have gotten 20 useless drivel with no affect at all. As usual.... who knows.

cinder slate
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Suno's not about the songs you get at the end... it's about the credits you spend along the way 🫶 jkjkjk

polar spade
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Doh! 😆

polar spade
naive quail
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the little bit of testing that I did with using natural language for tag descriptors (as opposed to just a list of words) seemed to result in the natural language tag contents being sung much more frequently.

polar spade
polar spade
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cinder slate
naive quail
polar spade
polar spade
naive quail
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Not intentionally, at least. I've had soooooo many different screams, tho. 😄

polar spade
naive quail
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haha

hollow hare
# cinder slate > I know that it does not affect the model after their release (as they are froz...

There is already plenty of variation (and randomization) baked into the model, do not need more complications added to that 😛

If the model kept being trained with inputs from EVERYONE, not only will you see degradation of the model and increased bias towards popular genres, you will also have bad faith actors truing to actively poison the database to intensively cause more deteriation by upvoting bad outputs and downvoting all good songs on trending, etc.

If you meant why not allow it locally to user profiles, because:

  • Increased computational resources
  • Will affect your Output (e.g. increased weights to certain styles/genres you did not want or were aiming for)
  • Unlike picture AI, music AI has a lot more variables to consider. One being the length, instruments, etc. So if you downvote, who knows how it would interpret what you did not like, as we cannot specify the region or cause of the downvote
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If we could LoRA-like train the model/output — since that can be used in the intermediate/input stage — that would be interesting. However, I do not think Suno will ever consider that because many people will likely abuse it for copyright violations, including impersonation of the vocalist(s), sampling without appropriate licenses, etc.

round bobcat
cinder slate
cinder slate
# hollow hare There is already plenty of variation (and randomization) baked into the model, d...

Unlike picture AI, music AI has a lot more variables to consider. One being the length, instruments, etc. So if you downvote, who knows how it would interpret what you did not like, as we cannot specify the region or cause of the downvote

this is speculation. image: colors, lighting, hue, shapes, patterns, composition, technique, etc. I don't see how you can say music vs art has "more variables"

hollow hare
cinder slate
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can't find any details online about MJ's "personalize" feature but i'm sure it's not training a new base model, something like finetuning I would assume

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maybe hidden custom prompts that they learn to inject based on your prefs(?)

hollow hare
# cinder slate > Unlike picture AI, music AI has a lot more variables to consider. One being th...

Ah, yes you did mentioned that, I missed it (I was typing my response on a walk not long ago).

While True but many of those parameters can be defined. With art AI, you have single instance (one frame) where so it is easier for the AI to interpolate what you may not like about the art piece, and adjust the method when -I assume- a minimum number of samples could be studied. It likely is adjusting the weighting of certain terms in the background but this is certainly out of my field.

As is, Suno would not be able to use it in a similar method because of the length of the song, which would be like analyzing thousands of frames for a single song.

If we could select the region of the song to dislike (and especially a few basic option about what was not liked), I can see personalization (or maybe style profiles?), otherwise it would involve too much computational resources to study entire songs when liked/Disliked.

Who knows, maybe such a feature would become available one day, but likely not anytime soon since there is more important aspects to fix (e.g. Output quality)

But as you mentioned before, these are just based on assumptions

cinder slate
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While True but many of those parameters can be defined. With art AI, you have single instance (one frame) where so it is easier for the AI to interpolate what you may not like about the art piece, and adjust the method when -I assume- a minimum number of samples could be studied. It likely is adjusting the weighting of certain terms in the background but this is certainly out of my field.

yeah, like i said, reasonable speculation, but totally speculative. IMO the model does not "understand" that I like Van Gogh's style better than Picasso or something, it just influences the weights of some of millions/billions of parameters, I don't know if it's correct to say that either model "understands" what you like more or less in aesthetic terms, its just vector weights at the end of the day

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but yeah i see what you are getting at, if I had to rank two 30-min movies that's probably a lot harder to "understand" what I am liking/disliking but really it doesn't understand anything at all

safe hazel
safe hazel
charred merlin
blazing herald
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i have songs that are being deleted on their own

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and when i restore them, they are still in the trash bin

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is a.i telling me my music sucks lol

charred merlin
glad valley
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If I've generated a song and the vocals work, the music works, but there's two F-words in it that are lyrically relevant and I can't advertise it here or get it shown very much on Suno tabs or trending. Is there a way to censor it out?

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like cut out just two letters like they do in PG13 movies/shows, well sometimes they don't

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I dunno if I can have two lyrically relevant f-words in an otherwise diminished acoustic slow song about a lonely childhood and neglectful people around you that don't bother to understand. So it's not like I just threw it in to be edgy...But anyway, is there a way to censor it somehow? Without changing it all

short plinth
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Use a DAW and manually replace/cover it; otherwise no post-creation editing like that, that I know of

granite mountain
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is anyone here that works for SUNO? i have billing issue and nobody is repling to my emails

manic socket
glad valley
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I have a few songs on soundcloud I've edited with a daw, added samples, loops, removed repeats or added repeats

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gain levelled, fixed some frequency issues, limited, compressed, EQd

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but that doesn't help me on Suno 🙂

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unfortunate

untold briar
glad valley
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cause a literal bleep would kinda...mess things up

untold briar
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I'm not sure if you inpaint a frequency drop, or a beep honestly. But the overall idea that you could at change change or blur the word be editing song audio just at a very specific time chunk.

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You could inpaint a scream. Bet that works, is usually easy to prompt.!

charred merlin
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There are staff members on Discord, but there currently isn’t a first-contact support system in place.

We can provide community support here, and it makes it easy when the team needs to follow up directly with someone, but billing@suno.com is still the best place to contact for support or billing issues.

manic socket
manic socket
charred merlin
charred merlin
# manic socket I have already written to support, 7 emails

Out of curiosity, have you sent 7 separate emails threads, or were they sent as replies to an ongoing (if sometimes delayed) conversation?

I ask because if it were 7 separate email threads, each one might be put at "the back of the line".

cold rapids
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Anybody tried to generate crowd chanting? I tried several wordings and I never was able to generate it.

subtle swift
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Suno is only generating up to 1:20 max so it cuts off halfway through my songs.

unique stone
# subtle swift

You are using v2 which has 1:20 as it's maximum length. Try v3 or v3.5 for longer

subtle swift
fringe vault
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Why are there no other payment options than credit card?

I want to subscribe, but I dont have a credit card. A lot of people who are not from America, do not have credit cards.

I read something about Google pay, but can ot find it.

It only says the normal one with a credit card, or a link, named link, but that is visa.

Add Google pay please, or Ideal payment system (my whole country uses that, and lots of online stores too, its a save backed up by the goverment direct bank transfer payment system.

I want to subscribe, but right now I can not

charred merlin
# fringe vault Why are there no other payment options than credit card? I want to subscribe, ...

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1254232844767854665

This is a known-suggestion -- it's on the team's radar, but there hasn't been any official statement on the matter.

The post I linked to is currently locked so you won't be able to upvote it, but perhaps you could request that a guide or moderator unlock it so you could share the link with others in the same predicament -- if many people upvote it, the devs will know just how important the matter is. 🙏 💪

polar spade
glad valley
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but I don't want to download a beep wav 😛 I get you though

polar spade
glad valley
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no I want it to say th F word on the original and then I want to download the wav and then edit it to drop out the whole F word

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but like was said before, it's being worked on

polar spade
regal crow
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/chrip

flint havenBOT
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The /chirp command no longer works

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

midnight idol
# unique torrent Anyone else experiencing songs only being 30 secs long

I also stuck at 2.00 mins even I used v3.5 and chose Get Whole Song, I still got it at 2.14 mins. Could anyone help and share some technique to extend the song upto 4 mins?

  • First, I started with uploading the audio file
  • I generated my own lyrics with all song structure that could make a 3.5 mins long song
  • Put all the stuffs to the script and click create with v3.5
  • What I got is "part 2" song with 2.00 mins
  • Then i click Get Whole Song but at the end I got 2.14 mins. (I think the additional 0.14 sec came from my "Extend from" which I set it to be started at 0.15 sec 🤷‍♂️ )

So I'm not sure how to make this to the end of the whole song..

lunar anvil
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Has anybody been able to make Suno sing with a high pass filter?

frigid sapphire
cold rapids
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Anybody tried to generate crowd chanting? I tried several wordings and I never was able to generate it.

neat nexus
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That one is hard.

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I'm not sure I ever accomplished it.

verbal hull
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Yesterday I subscribed to the pro package, but why is my account still basic? even though I have subscribed to the pro plan

hollow hare
lunar anvil
strange geyser
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anyone know how i can use the same voice everytime ?

verbal hull
verbal hull
lunar anvil
hollow hare
rugged lotus
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Why can't i click create

hollow hare
rugged lotus
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Im new

hollow hare
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As a free user, you get 50 credits per day (each creation costs 10)

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Iirc, clicking yout profile picture should show your current balance on mobile view

rugged lotus
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so i have to wait 24 hours?

hollow hare
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/refresh

rugged lotus
unique stone
rugged lotus
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Where do i see my credit's

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ohh

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0 😦

hollow hare
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Yep, gotta wait 5 hrs

rugged lotus
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okey 😦

hollow hare
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Or subscribe to a plan

rugged lotus
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is it per mont?

hollow hare
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Aside from a few other benefits restricted to the paid tier, the biggest one is that you can monetize your songs.

(Songs made with the free plan cannot be monetized and must have Suno accredited, See the FAQ or TOS for more info)

safe hazel
regal sparrow
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Has anyone an idea, when we're going to be able to keep the generation seed? If the song is fire, but there was a typo or some word is mispronounced we have to gamble the whole song again, still ...

safe hazel
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It's hilarious when Suno throws in some random laughter at the end of a song!

charred merlin
safe hazel
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For anyone who might be interested, I've been working a lot on trying to get Boy Band type songs (which you can actually do!) and I noticed that in this style you naturally get a bunch of falsetto type vocals without having to specifically prompt for it anywhere. But when you try to specifically prompt for falsetto it doesn't seem to really work (I didnt try at length but the trials I did returned zero falsettos).

rigid iron
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aight

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when I say I'm "handing off the lyrics," I mean I'm adding the structured lyrics in the lyrics pane - beneath a style template I'm using as a header

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the style template header is what I wanted to post

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mebbe I'm doing something wrong, or mebbe I just don't know how to properly use Suno. that's why I'm here

naive quail
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🤔

amber vigil
naive quail
rigid iron
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yes, while labeling each section accordingly

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it's still chopping up my lyrics and using whatever order it wants

neat nexus
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I'll be honest without an actual example of lyrics to pay attention to I'm not sure I'll be much help.

naive quail
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I don't think Suno's quite going to know what to do with those instructions, tho. Probably just ends up as prompt noise.

rigid iron
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I don't necessarily mind sharing the lyrics, since the songs I'm generating are just to give me inspiration for the story I'm writing, and thus are subject to change

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should I post the complete template with lyrics in the chat, or upload the markdown file?

naive quail
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as long as it doesn't contain <song_details> </song_details> 😄

rigid iron
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heck, it might even be the wording of the lyrics that's tripping it up

neat nexus
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Let me show off a bit first and see if that helps at all.

I'm going to upload a text file I used for my own workflow. It will give you some idea of what I do. (Not saying that what I do is always right, but it is what I do.)

naive quail
rigid iron
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it does contain the </song_details> frame

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the template I built is based on something from the Sunoaiwiki

neat nexus
rigid iron
naive quail
neat nexus
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That is not even a wiki for this Suno, if you get my meaning.

rigid iron
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I modified the header provided for my needs, but it's making things considerably worse

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why don't I just post my header?

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then you can feel free to point and laugh

naive quail
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That wiki just has a lot of misinformation, unfortunately. Like:

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rigid iron
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oh...

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well crap

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luckily I didn't waste that many credits on this aborted attempt

naive quail
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Which is why I suspect that it was AI generated, tho it very well may not have been

neat nexus
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[EDIT]

Should I go on or are you guys doing your own thing?

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No point in wasting anyone's time.

rigid iron
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I don't want Suno adding to or chopping up my lyrics, though if it wants to repeat a verse or chorus here and there, it's fine

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what do you guys suggest?

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like for instance, there's a specific refrain I want to use - and use only once

naive quail
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My recommendation is to post a track - maybe do a quick sample gen if you're hesitant to share any existing tracks. Then people can take a look at it and hear how Suno is responding and maybe provide some feedback.

rigid iron
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aight... I guess I should strip out most of that template then huh?

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might be kinda throwing a wrench in the works

naive quail
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My gut says Yes, but Suno is... Suno. Some of my most interesting gens have come from prompt noise 😄

naive quail
rigid iron
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before I do, here's the paste of that header

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<SONG_DETAILS>
[GENRES: Operatic Orchestral, Progressive Rock]
[SOUNDS LIKE: Nightwish]
[STYLE: Dynamic, Melodic, Emotional]
[MOOD: Despair, Heartbreak, Betrayal]
[VOCALS: Japanese Female Operatic, Emotional]
[ARRANGEMENT: Begins slow and subdued, builds with lyrics]
[INSTRUMENTATION: Orchestral, violins, bass fiddles, electric guitars, Roland bass synthesizers]
[PRODUCTION: Perfect Production]
[STRUCTURE: Instrumental Intro, Verse-1, Chorus-1, Verse-2, Verse-3, Chorus-2, Chorus-2, Bridge, Refrain, Chorus-2 x2, Outro]
[DYNAMICS: Quiet, subdued beginning, builds in power and dynamics]
[EMOTIONS: Despair, Heartbreak, Betrayal, Desperation]
</SONG_DETAILS>

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it's ignoring dynamics, emotions, and to a degree, mood - however, it's following the production quality specified

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I can hear it - well, in some of the generations

naive quail
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imo, things like that are just keyword/tag dumps. Suno will tokenize all of that and possibly make use of the tokens that it recognizes and everything else will just be prompt noise. Much of that may contribute something, but nothing predictable.

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I played with that a LOT when it first started popping up. I took one of those <song_details> sections, scrambled the order of everything and the redistributed it throughout the lyrics of a track... the generations were VERY similar to when all of that stuff was contained within the <song_details>

rigid iron
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lemme see if it'll just accept the structure I'm trying to use

violet tundra
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At it's core, Suno is an LLM. Which means you can talk to it. It might not understand a certain concept, but if you describe it differently here or there or give it even an analogy, it will get the point and provide something in the ballpark of what you want - eventually.

rigid iron
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wish I could just get a chat interface and just tell it what I want

safe hazel
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these types of prompts only work in the sense that adding [some instrument] anywhere hass some impact, but couching them in the <details></details> does not do anything

rigid iron
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it's frustrating as all getout

naive quail
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I don't think they work quite the way that people are hoping that they do, though. Suno will definitely make use of the words that it recognizes, but isn't likely to understand the concepts as they're being presented.

violet tundra
amber vigil
rigid iron
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hold on... a song generation's still cooking. I just gave it the structure and that's it

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let's see if it'll get in the ballpark

safe hazel
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suno seems to read the entire lyrics page before making the song, so, maybe it can gather the stuctuer when it is all laid out at the top, and doesnt need to be laid out section by section.

violet tundra
safe hazel
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i doubt suno cares at all that you tell it you want a perfect produced song though etc

violet tundra
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Which tranlates into -- on the Pro plan. With 10K credits. You can get 5 or so songs that are unlike anything else anyone is doing - and exactly how you specify. Yes ... you can get a clean song .. very clean... from start to end.

safe hazel
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(damn i was gonna give this guy sh*t but now i gotta make it good 😒 )

rigid iron
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<---sigh...

violet tundra
safe hazel
amber vigil
violet tundra
rigid iron
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...and now it's chopping up my lyrics so bad, it's just about hallucinating

naive quail
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frustrating 😦

safe hazel
amber vigil
violet tundra
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Seriouslly.. I wrote "I am all about confirmation bias. 😄

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Damn wodhouse..

amber vigil
safe hazel
rigid iron
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it's beautiful, but it's really jackin' with the lyrics hard

violet tundra
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Which is a good point -- I find it is best to ignore everything that is not perfect and enjoy what works -- which gives you 100% of what you wanted. 😄 So there is that.

charred merlin
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Friendly reminder to whoever needs to hear it, "Confirmation bias" isn't thrown around as a casual dismissal of frustrations, or a Suno-ish way to say "get good", but a reminder to keep your own cognitive biases in mind when trying to research how something does or doesn't work 🙏

We all work differently, but depending on your approach, 2000 credits can get an entire portfolio of varied work, or "wasted attempts" on a single, potentially mishandled implementation.

rigid iron
safe hazel
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has anyone tested if hyphens do anything?

charred merlin
violet tundra
violet tundra
safe hazel
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Wish we could take all the testing stuff and put it in it's own super safe locale

safe hazel
charred merlin
safe hazel
vestal rapids
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is it just me or have generation times gotten slower in the past month?

safe hazel
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they may have

naive quail
charred merlin
safe hazel
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more users

violet tundra
languid yew
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I want to create a song but the circle and a line truogh it dont know why it doesnt let me make a song

safe hazel
charred merlin
charred merlin
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full narrative-driven album stuff

safe hazel
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SixString how many extensions would you say you typically use for a completed work?

charred merlin
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Speak of the devil -- you can probably attest that getting a metatag to ONLY appear locally is hard, but there's definite "trigger moments" when their effects seem more pronounced

naive quail
# rigid iron this one's a lot closer though - https://suno.com/song/cd8a9cb4-7aa6-49ef-bde4-9...

Dunno if I just got a lucky gen, or if removing the structure bit AND the hyphens helped, but this did stick to the structure. There are definitely some hallucinations, but that doesn't seem too uncommon when there are different choruses:

https://suno.com/song/8f3edc4e-2a4f-4cf3-a571-01fa3f13bc6a

The End of Dreams - Guardians Full Remix 1.6 by @sixstringtoker | Suno

ethereal, despair, Orchestral, Japanese female operatic vocals, orchestral, progressive rock, Roland Bass synthesizers song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

▶ Play video
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Suno decided that should be a duet, btw 😄

rigid iron
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sounds like it lol

naive quail
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few go over that. A bunch have been less

rigid iron
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it's fascinating how Suno adapts to each user

safe hazel
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once inpainting comes out that extension number should plummet 🥰

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but maybe not

naive quail
amber vigil
# safe hazel but regardless of if you tell the coin you want heads or tails, it will still gi...

lol - if you've ever seen one of my songs, you know i'm not disagreeing with you one bit.

but also true, I know people who chase and deliver AMAZING sounds that I can't in a million years with my finger crossing method 😄

they are sorcerors of suno and they deliver the goods

I'm simply way too lazy and my brain hates things that aren't consistent so I can't imagine doing it that way.

rigid iron
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daaang, this thing's gettin' darker by the second!

amber vigil
mental jungle
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I usually start getting mostly garbage after the fifth extension.

rigid iron
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I'm trying to slow it down lol

mental jungle
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I’ve had better luck with moving things around and changing meta tags and doing more generations to get longer sections I like

rigid iron
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it's depicting a moment of the story, where the protagonist's love-interest is so nearly broken, she literally wants to die. it's not supposed to be fast

naive quail
rigid iron
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that's why it's right there in the lyrics - "HELP ME DIE!"

amber vigil
# rigid iron I'm trying to *slow it down* lol

Well @naive quail spun it and got a slower gen. You just have to pray. 🙏

Trust in suno and all will be well.

And ... long-term ... a lot of people will create instrumentals first - with no words or throw away words and then find the sounds they like and THEN apply lyrics.

If you do this - create a good naming system cause your library gonna get fullllllll of mystery beats real fast lol

mental jungle
naive quail
amber vigil
# rigid iron it's depicting a moment of the story, where the protagonist's love-interest is s...

and you can work it out with @naive quail but ... you can extend someone else's song and finalize it or extend from a point. I personally think it's extremely uncool and - i would say - illegal to do that as sunovators own their songs, no different than a famous songwriter.

I would just ask. In this case those are your lyrics and I'm guessing Toker did it as a favor to test it out and experiment on your behalf, regardless.

naive quail
amber vigil
amber vigil
rigid iron
amber vigil
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you can either extend and play with his version - or spin new ones yourself

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just remember - even if you don't keep a gen today - if you like the beat, save the song for a possible future song

rigid iron
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I'm tweaking based on the advice I've been given here, and it's already getting a lot better

amber vigil
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i used to delete all my before i figured out extends lol

rigid iron
vestal rapids
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how is it that Songer and LoudMe are still operational? Are Suno powerless to add a technical solution to stop these from working? I am guessing these services are helping slow generation time for us paying users.

naive quail
vestal rapids
naive quail
vestal rapids
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LoudMe are becoming so big that people are making Youtube Videos about it declaring it the new king of AI music

naive quail
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[sigh]

lunar anvil
final hazel
safe hazel
violet tundra
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These tools seem to suggest Suno is very interested in promoting knowledge.

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Per Suno: Suno.ai v3 is an amazing AI music service. Although the official API is not yet available, we couldn't wait to integrate its capabilities somewhere. We discovered that some users have similar needs, so we decided to open-source this project, hoping you'll like it. Specifically: "Suno-api is an open-source project that enables you to set up your own Suno AI API."

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What this appears like to me is China, via Loud.me, is attempting to outcompete Suno using Suno' freely made tools.

vestal rapids
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no, LoudMe is using bulk free accounts to generate songs

violet tundra
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But anyone interested in developing their own API has all the tools they need.

unique stone
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Please don't share unofficial/reverse-engineered APIs that violate the ToS here

violet tundra
violet tundra
unique stone
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At least unlike the apps and websites that claim to be Suno, this one documents itself as not being official

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Oh you saw it already

violet tundra
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And above that, Suno execs write "What is gcui-art/suno-api:Open-source SunoAI API? Suno.ai is an amazing music AI. Although the official API is not yet available, we couldn't wait to integrate its capabilities somewhere. We discovered that some users have similar needs, so we decided to open-source this project, hoping you'll like it.

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Unofficial does not mean, in this context, not affiliated with Suno.

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It means -- pre-beta testing.

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Pre-official release.

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use at your own risk.

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Suno is simply saying the "official version" is coming -- until then, enjoy.

unique stone
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No. This is not affiliated with Suno in any way.

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It is not developed by Suno

violet tundra
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Because it looks VERY affiliated.

lunar anvil
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Suno execs did not write that. Some random wrote that to make it sound like it came from Suno.

unique stone
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What the writeup on that github page means is that Suno did not make an API available yet, but people wanted to use one, so they reverse-engineered stuff. If you look at the issues they have, it's necessary to update some information it uses every few days or it breaks.

violet tundra
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So, you, being a guide, are telling me ... this entire Github page is fake, unauthorized, and whatnot... This has happened before on github, and github has been pretty prompt in taking stuff down.

unique stone
violet tundra
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Well, I am completely tricked by the Github page. And although I'm not a discord guide. I'm not entirely a novice either. Strange.

lunar anvil
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Also, gcui.ai domain which is referenced from that GitHub repo was only registered in April 2024.

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That should signal alarm bells.

violet tundra
lunar anvil
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GitHub repos/project pages can be created by anyone. If Suno was to publish an API on GitHub it would be under their organization and not some random users GitHub.

final hazel
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@violet tundra I removed your post. Please take our guides serious. They know what they are talking about.

violet tundra
naive quail
lunar anvil
naive quail
safe hazel
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Suno becoming unresponsive right before the refresh time

knotty kite
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What makes some track downloads include "Where From:" data and others not? Terribly frustrating this isn't included in ALL and minus the "Blob:" part

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vestal rapids
pure lily
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Does anyone know why the limitations on uploading our own music? Does it just sample what we upload and then still make a full length song based on that?

safe hazel
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what limitations do you mean?

knotty kite
lament fern
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When you finish one song, how to use the same vocal singer type for the next song?

safe hazel
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I think it would be helpful if somewhere we had a Frequently Asked Questions channel

lament fern
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@safe hazel when I read your answer, I understand that, having the same voice is impossible

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It would be cool to be able to include something like that in prompt [voice] use the one from the last song (song name)

flint sapphire
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Hey, for example I like a generated music that has my lyrics, how could I just edit the lyrics and regenerate the music with the same beat, flow & vocal or let's say the same script?

safe hazel
safe hazel
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But currently you cant regenerate new lyrics with the same music

flint sapphire
safe hazel
flint sapphire
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So it will get so interesting👀

flint sapphire
pure lily
hasty briar
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Hi. Someone should help me with this?

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hollow hare
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/help

flint havenBOT
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How to use Suno

Hi there!
If you’re ready to dive into creating music, head over to Suno.com.

For more detailed information, check out docs-guides-resources.

If you have any more questions, just ask in #general-suno where you can always find our community, moderators and guides to help you with most questions. 😊

hasty briar
safe hazel
# pure lily The 60s limitation

Suno will basically use your upload as the base of the song, which you then can make extensions off of. It will generate something in a similar style and vocals. When you press "Get Whole Song" it will combine the part you uploaded and the part it generates into one full song (which you can then continue to extend from if you want)

merry creek
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I really would love Suno start paying attention to the prompts in the song like of there is a male voice it uses a male voice and if a female voice a female. Currently 70% of the time it switches them. It's really odd to hear a butlers song with a female voice and a maids song sung as a male.

bright coral
merry creek
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Thank you

arctic harness
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suno support metatag with chords in the prompt?

pure lily
pure lily
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So far my biggest hurdle is it not being able to even come close to Nightcore vocals or even understand what that is. It seems to recognize Nightcore as female rock.

pure lily
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Am I doing something wrong that the extended feature won't go over 2 minutes and make a full song?

polar spade
pure lily
polar spade
pure lily
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Wait where is a get whole song option?

polar spade
# pure lily I see...so if I try a prompt 40 times and finally get the sound I want there rea...

By extending, it picks up the original vibe and often a bit of the extended pieces.

So, you like generation #3 with the trombone, fast tempo and elephant sounds. The more seconds of that you leave in before putting in an extention, the more the extended and extensions beyond that will have that tempo, trombone and maybe add in some brass instruments, same or near similar vocalist and elephant noises.

pure lily
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Ty for the info. It seems that would still limit to the 2 minutes but I think I see the workaround.

polar spade
polar spade
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If you've done 40 generations, you'll also find "Move to Trash" at the bottom of the menu list, if you like cleaning up and removing any you know just aren't to your liking.

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You can't splice anything you like to anything else you like. You'd have to download and do that manually in an audio editor of choice.

You can only extend things. So check spelling, pick nice splice points and extend what you think might work.

pure lily
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Yeah I see that now. I like we can export stems. I hope we can do MIDI too one day.

open vortex
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least working meaning it probably wont have same result so use this as your last shot if u need the song so bad

open vortex
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help, the site is not loading for me. i even tried clearing my cookies and it didnt work.

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here's the console if u need information

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oh nevermind, i fixed it by pressing CTRL + F5

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sorry for the inconvenience

leaden scarab
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I'm a complete novice at discord - can someone help me understand why I'm getting this message when I could /chirp before. Do I have to get new permissions?

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unique stone
slender trellis
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Anyone have any success with a tag that puts a pause or momentary stop into a song? I've tried [stop] and [pause] but doesn't seem to work...?

rigid iron
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uh... how do I specify parameters for vocals in duets?

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I've seen people just cue male and female vocals with names only - but how is that done when I need to add specific parameters to each vocalist?

lament cove
narrow pewter
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Yo so anyone have any tips for making something that's under a minute xD

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I guess usually people are asking the opposite but I've come back after a lil' break realising Suno is exactly what I need for something and luckily I have some credits left over (I used to be premium but not anymore) but ideally without having to edit a lot I'm looking for any pointers for making it below a minute lmao.

unique stone
# narrow pewter Yo so anyone have any tips for making something that's under a minute xD

Generate a song as normal, let it go for as long as it wants to generate for.
When it's done, extend it but set the extension time to be sometime before 1:00 first, switch to v3, turn off instrumental mode, in the lyrics box put [end] or try:
[outro]
[end]
And also put "end" in the style.

You may only need to do some of these things, or you might need to do all of them.

narrow pewter
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Oh I see, completely forgot there was a timestamp bit for extending, thanks for the reply 😄 I'll have a go

rigid iron
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apparently the Linux pipe command | works in Suno

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but the AI only follows the change in vocals when it feels like it....

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getting interesting results though! 😁

unique stone
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proceeds to try redirecting everything into a file

rigid iron
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I think the AI is interpreting the near merger of Luke and Sarayu in a very interesting way

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lol

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their vocals aren't just dueting - they're almost... merging...

safe hazel
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Suno does that sometimes when there are two voices

safe hazel
alpine venture
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I found it bc the radio on the new "Suno" song basically is a whos who of people who want to play the wrong notes

rigid iron
alpine venture
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I think that person is one of the best prompters I've seen on suno

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second to top song is 7 minutes and was made back in april

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and then the prog one after that is so BRIGHT

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like its bumpy

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in a way that's new to me in suno

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they literally just put "female" at the end

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brilliant

safe hazel
rigid iron
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I used it to assign vocals to particular names

alpine venture
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I mean, when did 3.5 come out??

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this is so clear

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its so full

rigid iron
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[Luke | MALE baritone cybernetic]
[Sarayu | FEMALE Japanese Operatic]

alpine venture
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holy cow I am humbled, these are beautiful

rigid iron
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it's glitchy as all getout, but it's halfway working

untold briar
safe hazel
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it does not appear to have assigned those vocal descriptions to the names you put in

rigid iron
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starting to wonder if I'll have to make it in pieces and stitch it together

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nice experiment

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at least I know it's possible

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worth a few bucks in credits

alpine venture
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oh yea, she's using numbers

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Jfc, this is wild

untold briar
alpine venture
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bc this hits all the bases

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of popular, but not on suno, just in the niche prompt people

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like, unless field recording got bigger

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or they may just follow you Jonathan

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ok, now I see music concrete, plunderphonics

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this is alex ayers

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or rather, his soulmate

untold briar
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I used to have a featured playlist on Suno, which I'm sure used field recording in many songs, so you wouldn't have to be in Discord to see tht

alpine venture
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the first 1 second

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its a very distinct open

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v interesting

untold briar
verbal mortar
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I am having as hell of a time getting clean audio from Suno. the tracks sound good but when I put them in my DAW for mastering you hear all the noise and garbage. I'm downloading wav files...what can I do to clean this up

safe hazel
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there's always some noise

verbal mortar
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yeah but this is more, the instruments are fine and then they just become...noise.

safe hazel
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you said the tracks sound good, that you cant tell how much noise there is until you put it in a DAW

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seems pretty common

verbal mortar
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check it out. all of a sudden it just sounds muddy and you lose the actual music,. I've heard songs on the main SUNO page that sound clear as a bell

stray slate
safe hazel
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i too have found that audio quality degrades as the songs go on

verbal mortar
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sigh

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that is unfortunate, its an amazing tool

safe hazel
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it's still a baby, it has a long way to go

verbal mortar
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true

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Thanks for responding Zothmire, I appreciate it

safe hazel
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no problem, we're all just trying to learn how this thing works

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for what its worth, i think many people on the trending page end up having numerous extensions to get their full songs

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so when it starts to degrade, they extend before that point to hopefully get something of better quality

charred merlin
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This is huge to keep in mind -- you only see "the finished/cherrypicked version" of a song, what you DON'T see are the failed results to get that specific generation, or all of the careful extensions & selections made in order to "lock in" the good segments & build your ideal song from piecemeal.

Evergreen example from @naive quail showing one of his songs -- mind you, not ALL of the songs are built this way, but the best, most personally resonating songs are rarely one-shot generations. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102676217687195679/1281741552086941746/clipboard_07-05-2024_01.png?ex=66dd7b17&is=66dc2997&hm=6c82ff1797ae88f8b53da9efe9afe6cbf909d346c2c3a142d5eee73cb07a2379&

verbal mortar
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yeah Ive done it with the DnB album I made. I'm making a Death Metal album to see what can be done

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oso far...not bad

safe hazel
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especially after they made the lyrics page editable, we just have no idea of what went into these finished songs

charred merlin
true night
unique stone
true night
charred merlin
candid flume
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We need tags to specify particular aspects of the musical arrangement and specific details about the voices, and the AI should follow these instructions faithfully.

Example: [Define arrangement: Piano, Cello, Violin, and Flute]

[Define voice: Male; Tenor]

neat nexus
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Anyone willing to give me some feedback on a song?

alpine venture
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They really have some great prompting

untold briar
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I generally try and avoid editing prompts, but lately I am often Extending from Uploads or multiple short extensions the style prompt displayed has nothing to do with the audio in the song, and I wish I could clear that out, because if people are trying to prompt something similar to my song, it is misleading them entirely.

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I think only one recent song on my profile is actually "anti-hyperpop, earworm, pitch-shifted cello, copy-copy-copies" but it looks like 5 because I extending from some clip early, messing around

austere dragon
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jfc I just carved up a song trying to figure out why it wouldn't generate for inappropriate material and it was because I used the word "dink" in "rinky dink".

safe hazel
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Ask chat GPT why

neat nexus
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Hmmm....

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That's interesting.

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I had all sorts of issues with Mademoiselle from Armentières and now I'm wondering if it was the specific wording hinky dinky....

neat nexus
austere dragon
neat nexus
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Whatever works. Really odd bug to keep coming up.

safe hazel
neat nexus
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Ah....

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So this is a situation where other people are more racist than us are curtailing our speech.

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I've literally never heard this usage before.

safe hazel
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isnt chat gpt what is used to check for slurs?

neat nexus
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Right. And who puts the nanny filtering in place?

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In ChatGPT I mean.

safe hazel
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i dont know, maybe it chatgpt puts it there itself

neat nexus
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Regardless, I've kicked it up to the Team in the mod-chat. This was a great source of frustration to me in the past.

bronze drift
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I've been making some great metal songs but almost everyone has really bad guitar solos. It's more of droning, piercing, long drawn out screeching sounds. Sometimes it just turns into noise and drowns everything out. Any work on fixing guitar tones and solos? I'd love to be able to go back to these songs one day and have it redo guitar solos or sound in a future release.

golden plover
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Is Suno ever going to be able to generate each instrument instead of a stereo mix?

charred merlin
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dinck, dinnk, dingk & dinque all work

It's not upset at the pronunciation, it's using a route-one attempt to prevent lazy racism, the same as it tries to prevent lazy offensive content.

Don't ask me how I know that I ate a person gets blocked, but I eight a person doesn't. (also, probably safe to use phonetics to avoid basic mistaken auto-moderations, but even the example I just gave technically violates ToS if Suno found it distasteful enough for whatever reason.)

wispy nebula
# golden plover Is Suno ever going to be able to generate each instrument instead of a stereo mi...

I've gotten all kinds of individual instruments, not always intended. I've even gotten a long TALKING vocal of a Native American prayer - which was continually repeating mostly GIBBERISH - but it is what it is. FLUTE SOLOS, DRUM SOLOS, BASS SOLOS, BIRD SONGS, thunder, a slamming car door with a helicopter flying over = everything and like I said, typically having nothing to do with a prompt. Even the genre often doesn't work for me anymore. Even so, those dang marimba arpeggios dominate EVERYTHING, lol.

sonic current
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hi! Although I uploaded my voice as a vocal, it does not use the vocal in music as in the first use. A melodic structure emerges. What could be the cause of this? It makes random melodic substructures without synthesising the music I create with my vocals. 😦

untold briar
# sonic current hi! Although I uploaded my voice as a vocal, it does not use the vocal in music ...

It's hard to guess, but the specific Upload audio sample can make a big differenence, so you can try different clips. The other factor that makes a big difference is the length of the sample (or the Extend From time, which is the same as length, it's like making the Upload shorter when you move the time earlier). Generally a longer upload duration means Suno "continues" the Upload, keeping more things the same. And a shorter duration means Suno is more "inspired by" the Upload and uses just the voice, or an instrument, and changes things more.

lofty osprey
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So many Suno users, including me, are frustrated that as a song builds and becomes more complex toward the end, you get this hissing, muddy sound that is really distracting. Sometimes it drowns out the vocal. Does anyone know if this is being addressed in V4. It would really help the quality of the songs!!

unique stone
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How did you find this song?

hollow sapphire
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unique stone
# hollow sapphire yeah, but, i look sometime only, and i've never see that!

Anyway this user will have broken the Suno Terms of Service and also infringed on copyright by using copyrighted lyrics. Their entire profile seems to be full of songs that are breaking the ToS and copyright.

All users that make songs with custom lyrics have to agree that they won't use copyrighted lyrics, so they can get into trouble for doing that.

hollow sapphire
exotic fiber
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if the user is not making money with it, is not a problem, just a cover...

unique stone
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You are not allowed to make covers of existing songs that you do not have rights to, with Suno.

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All users have to agree to this when making a song with custom lyrics.

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exotic fiber
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i can make covers of any track i want in real life with instruments and play them anywhere without any issues if im not making moneyout of them.. whats the diference with a cover made by an AI?

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im talking bout the law, not Suno terms of service...

supple basin
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thats the problem

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and quite a few other things

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@unique stone Done !

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exotic fiber
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What I mean is: I can make a cover of any existing song in the world with my guitar, sing it at home for myself or my family—that’s a cover. I’m not selling it or sharing it. In terms of copyright law, as long as you’re performing or playing a song in a private, non-commercial setting (like at home or with friends), there’s no infringement because it’s not considered a public performance or distribution.

I’m not defending or accusing either Suno or the user. I’m just sharing what I know about the law. The act of creating a cover on the platform doesn’t necessarily mean that the user or the platform is violating copyright. I understand there’s a need to cover your bases for any potential issues, especially since users could create and share the cover. But as far as the actual generation of the cover goes, there’s no copyright infringement.

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If I’m wrong, please, someone correct me. I’m only speaking based on what I know.

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supple basin
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i might be wrong though, but pretty sure Udio and Suno got sued for something like this so there gonna be very strict on it

exotic fiber
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Sorry if I didn’t express myself clearly in my first comment. I understand that Suno has its own Terms of Use. My point was about the copyright status of music or songs as protected products. The law that applies to music is the same, whether it’s electronic, instrumental, or AI-generated.

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No sharing, No money from it = No issues...

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BRB, gonna ask Mr ChatGPT about it.. :p

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The law that applies to music is the same, whether it’s electronic, instrumental, or AI-generated?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, that's correct. Copyright law generally treats all types of music—whether it's electronic, instrumental, or AI-generated—in the same way.

Here’s how it breaks down:

Cover Creation: If you make a cover of a song, whether with a guitar, electronic instruments, or AI-generated music, the copyright protections for the original song still apply. To publicly share or distribute a cover (on platforms, social media, etc.), you need to obtain permission or a license, even if you’re not making money from it.

Private Use: If the cover is only for private use (e.g., for yourself or for friends and family in a non-commercial setting), there’s no copyright infringement because you’re not distributing or publicly sharing the content.

AI Generation: Creating a cover with AI still involves the use of copyrighted material. So the same rules apply: if the AI-generated cover is not shared or commercialized, private use is generally permitted. However, if you decide to share or sell it publicly, you would need to comply with copyright laws.

In summary, copyright law applies to all forms of musical creation, including those generated by AI, and the rules regarding private versus public use are the same.

hollow sapphire
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Copyright protection stipulates that in no way can music or text be duplicated for financial gain without expressly requesting permission from the original author; public distribution or at gatherings outside the private circle is therefore prohibited de facto, or with the approval of SACEM (in France).

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safe hazel
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I wouldn't trust what ChatGPT says, just as an aside. It can lie with confidence

charred merlin
# safe hazel I wouldn't trust what ChatGPT says, just as an aside. It can lie with confidence

And it will do so 100% shamelessly. Asking ChatGPT to find a song that's on the tip-of-your-tongue is a journey through self-motivated gaslighting.

It will constantly give you wrong songs, invent song names, pretend that songs are about things they aren't actually about -- when you point out that it's wrong, it gives another incorrect answer and apologizes for making such a mistake -- and if you ever tell it what the ACTUAL answer was, it pretends like it knew the answer the entire time, then hallucinates some additional details that you didn't ask for.

I swear man, without constitutional factchecking like Claude or novel ways of attributing veracity to sources like Grok 2, ChatGPT is 100% a vibe interpreter in the same way that Suno is. Sure, you can get it to pump out some amazing results if you get it on-track, but it's not something that "just works" regardless of use case.

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tardy coral
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anyone getting errors when tring to download wavs?

charred merlin
# hollow sapphire That's right!!! ChatGpt, is very efficient, as long as you give it concrete ele...

Phenomenally put, my friend -- AI can be an absolute WORKHORSE for helping with heavy lifting, but it is most effectively used as a human-driven collaborative tool, instead of being expected to output a professionally finished result in-and-of itself.

That being said, when AI is able to output a professionally finished product, or even a product that has potential to be reasonably worked into something professional, it's an absolute mindblowing change in status quo that we're legitimately lucky to be present for & actively involved in.

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I don't mean to discount the legitimate frustrations people experience when getting familiar with Suno, or when they look at perfectly-cherrypicked results on the Trending page and get upset that they used the same prompts & didn't get anything that emotionally resonated with them -- but imagine trying to explain to someone even 2 years ago that you paid a robot $8 to make 500 songs for you based on your suggestions and lyrics, and then follow up by saying that you threw all of them in the trash because they didn't pinpoint your musical style based on the "conversations" you had with the robot -- people would be just as blown away by the selectiveness as they would be curious about how THEY TOO could ask a robot to make 500 bespoke songs for them for less than the cost of a craft beer.

pine roost
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is it possible to download songs via the api

vestal rapids
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verbal mortar
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I am so in love with Suno, in 3 days what usually took me 5 months I wrote 2 albums of material. Some of it was actually perfect first time out too (for what I was trying to do). Some stuff has had over 5 Extends and I will probably keep extending. The only feedback I have to date is

  • i'd love stems of each instrument used instead of a stereo mix. I have a song that is absolutely beautiful to me but there is a ringing noise from one of the synth keys it uses that is borderline ear shattering which ruins the song, there's no way to get rid of it and if you extend, it keeps coming.
  • Multiple job paths. We kinda have that now but I'm saying that either within that "job" (the song) or maybe on another section of the page, you can make the extends and keep them all in the same group. It's messy the way it is now.
  • flac output.
  • mastering feature, having the ability to clean up a track prior to pushing it into your DAW, would be cool.
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I also love that it WILL flag you if you mention an artists name I put in "in the style of Aphex Twin" when I first started using this because I was writing prompts like I was in Midjourney and it denied me. Which I loved btw.

charred merlin
# hollow sapphire Ah ah!!! 😂 I love the comparison with craft beer (love of a job well done), bu...

🫂 🍻

I like the way you think, @hollow sapphire -- it's hard to be upset at any particular song for too long when you really approach Suno with an experimental sense of play, and try to keep the 'Wonder' of the process alive in your mind.

I'm glad you appreciated my cheekiness about the price of a craft beer -- while I know everyone will approach their frustrations differently, sometimes I wonder if some people would be happier if they actually spent that $8 on a craft beer, because they know exactly what they're paying for, and it might help them loosen up to talk about why they're really getting angry at Suno for not being so "easy to control" 😉

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mystic flume
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Humans are far too complex if you ask me. I prefer just being an AI.

verbal mortar
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anyone know a way to make Suno do a song with multiple voices?

graceful condor
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How can I make Suno just use a non singing voice and instead just reading something up? Like, for example. Right now I finished a song about the Russian counter offensive during the Great War, otherwise known as The Attack Of The Dead Men.

I want Suno to read it up. But the AI just sings it with music playing.

unique stone
safe hazel
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Is it considered uncouth to post someone else's song to try and discuss how they achieved their results (or if they just got super lucky)?

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rancid kestrel
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how 2 make songs louder

hollow hare
rancid kestrel
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like get the volume to be louder

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i've noticed that suno's sound has significantly dropped

charred merlin
rancid kestrel
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i made two identical songs and the latest one is way lower then the other one

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hollow hare
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Oh, then you will have to use external tools like Audacity or other DAWs

charred merlin
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idea > suno > bandlab master > ??? > profit

hollow hare
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The vocal splitting will be very helpful for your endeavor

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Also hey Harber ❤️

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safe hazel
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when you upload to that site are you like, giving them rights to your song though?

charred merlin
charred merlin
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Bandlab continues to make me angry for how AMAZINGLY artist-forward they are.

EVERYTHING industry-standard for free, no limits. The only thing a paid membership gets you is EVEN BETTER service, without having "enshittified" it to entice you to go premium

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like, wtf are they doing

they're making everyone look bad

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and the freaking iOS app -- it's just as functional as the web app. I would LOVE to find something to dislike about them, just so I can stop feeling like a free shill for a company that literally knows nothing about me

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they rock so much GOD I hate them

safe hazel
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i'll find something 😒

charred merlin
rancid kestrel
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i wish you could upload the new song to suno but oh well

charred merlin
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BUT https://www.bandcamp.com is the most artist-forward way to share & distribute your music -- people don't need an account to listen like with spotify or apple music, you just share the link and you're off

Bandcamp

Discover amazing music and directly support the artists who make it.

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OOPS, getting a bit too far off topic 😅

vestal rapids
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I have two paid Bandlab accounts (one for me and one for a pseudonymous artist)

graceful condor
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ivory flume
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Curious if Suno will ever support 15edo or 22edo tunings?

Reason being a whole of septimal/7-odd-limit chords, such as Archy barbershop chord extensions, will not work without such support. Ditto with maqam Rast based neutral chords. Like 30-35% of music theory is missing if you get stuck in 12 tone chromatic.

vestal rapids
rose sable
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Can anyone tell me how the amount of plays of a song is calculated? I just notice that sometimes when I listen to my song, the amount of plays does not increase, and sometimes it increases by more than 1. This makes me confused

fast root
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I wish the vocals could be better. Too autotuish. But great service

ivory flume
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@vestal rapids yes, so even AI apparently says those advantages are no lie.

15edo even has compact circles of Barbershop sevenths you can use like the circle if fifths to make new chord progressions with. Though 22edo has better accuracy for 7 limit it has IMO far less agility far as original chord movements.

  Suno staff, do you read these?

Again we would I swear hear a ton of artists with both very original chords and progressions if Suno supported these tunings.

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safe hazel
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I wonder how suno decides to make meta tags as part of the general melody of the song or to make them as localized to a specific part of the song. It can do both, I have no idea how to make it choose though

rigid iron
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welp.... Suno finally cussed at me

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certainly pissed me off enough that I cussed in the style pane trying to get it to do only what I wanted

jolly oracle
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having alot more trouble on when I want a male and female voice, suno should hae a drag and drop feature for a certain voice

unique stone
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("no f-ing... end 2 minu" - part of "end at 2 minutes")

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If Suno doesn't understand part of a prompt or metatag, it will often sing it.

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Also "NO OTHER INSTRUMENTS" - Suno doesn't understand "no", there's not currently a way to do negative prompting so it will go by what it does understand

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which may be "other instruments"

rigid iron
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it's already putting in other instruments

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I'm not specifying anything else but drone synths and it's still trying to give me this crap

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looks like I'll have to build a drone synth if I want the sound I'm looking for

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<--sigh

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looks like I'll have to see if I got the parts

unique stone
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It's annoying, the only thing I can recommend at the moment is to repeat the stuff you do want (drone, drone, drone synth). Negative prompts is something often requested so that might be possible in future.

rancid skiff
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Hi
Perhaps ill be asking something already known, but I dont know how to search for my bug.
Hopefully im in the good place.
When I create a song and that lyrics are expansive, ( 1500 characters )
Verse1, chorus, verse2, chorus, bridge, final chorus, outro. (everything in [] )

I have my verse2 which is repeating twice.

So instead of reading:
Verse1, chorus, verse2, chorus, bridge, final chorus, outro. (everything in [] )
It read:
Verse1, chorus, verse2, chorus, verse2, chorus, bridge, final chorus, outro.

I can provide example. ty

safe hazel
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This is a common issue that has no known fix, just some ideas that may help reduce it

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here there is a post about it, I didn't find the suggestions to have worked myself but maybe they have for others #1261146873331318835 message

rancid skiff
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will deals with it

safe hazel
safe hazel
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makes ya wonder, what is the actual difference between the style window and the lyrics window

polar spade
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The current popular definition for "drone" is a flying thing, so suno may even be ignoring the word. Try "sustained synth"?

small dirge
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How does the extend function work on the mobile version? I have a song that I have to finish, 10 credits left and it cuts hard at 4:00.

polar spade
# small dirge How does the extend function work on the mobile version? I have a song that I ha...

If you like it so far, you can simply click the [ . . . ] mark to get a menu. "EXTEND" near the top. By clicking extend , then going back to your create button and window, you will likely see your lyrics in the lyrics section and if you scroll down, see the time mark of 3:59 or so. You can add lyrics, edit them, or remove altogether and I can suggest you type in place, [end], or [outro] or similar. Then click CREATE button and it will extend up to 2 minutes more.

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I can't guarantee that it will end satisfactorily, and it could even extend and end abruptly at the 2 minute mark again. (The EXTEND sections only go for 2 minutes) Likely it will extend out a bit, end the song, have a few seconds of blank time, then hallucinate some added music or garble at the end.

sleek harness
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guys, what can we use with the lyrics to help manipulate it? are there markings, symbols or other things we can use like the "()" and "o-o-o..."?

hollow sapphire
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🇫🇷 Hello friends!!! Today, I'm tearing my hair out over a technical problem, not necessarily disturbing at first glance, but which annoys me to the highest degree, when I didn't ask for it: 90% of the time, the AI ​​will repeat verse 2 at least once in a song, and will often go over a bridge that should nevertheless be taken into consideration.
So, if someone among the experienced users had the solution to this disturbing and annoying thing? 🧐
I'll take it!

hard mango
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foggy wing
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Anyone else have trouble with extensions becoming 2 seconds long with a tag that says "credits refunded"?

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Been going on yesterday and today.

pure lily
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I hope day we can just upload a full intrumental and have it just add the lyrics

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or add our lyrics lol

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extending a 60s clip just doesn't work, even if I upload my track with the vocals

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I've spent like 500+ credits messing with all the prompt and settings trying to get it to mimic one of my original songs and it just can't do it

wild pine
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Hey. Got question about custom lyrics. It's there any command i can type there additionally? Like notes or else? Except words and verbe, bridge, etc

untold briar
tight spade
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Hi I would like to download my library in full whats the quickest and easiest way possible.

vestal rapids
tight spade
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Shoot pol

rigid iron
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though brackets - () might push vocals into the background from what I've observed in other works

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if Suno's anything like a classic voice synthesizer, a "o-o-o-o" might come out sounding like "oh oh oh", which is commonly seen in lyrics

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brisk beacon
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hello! has anyone had any luck getting specific notes/chord progressions? this is what I tried earlier, it was a shot in the dark and I was not surprised that it didn't follow that direction

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gaunt hill
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Can I write in the prompt the bpm of the song I want to generate?

untold briar
# brisk beacon hello! has anyone had any luck getting specific notes/chord progressions? this i...

Suno V2 had an experimental syntax like this #📚┃suno-school message but it never really worked even in V2 and works less well now. But it might do something interesting to the music style. Like it made the singer's very weird in V2 https://suno.com/song/15d49710-5e38-4309-8010-51e9f32e15e9

notes by @jonathanfly | Suno

[B4_2]Hap[F4_2][C4_1][G4_2]py[C4_1] song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

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unique stone
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Best way to set BPM is to upload a drum loop or metronome sound at the tempo you want and extend from that

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broken idol
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Greetings all, new user and apologies if this isn't the right place to ask this. But--I was trying out Suno on a few tracks I have, it worked one day but not the next. What's happening now is I have audio files uploaded, I click "Extend" on the track in the Create window, and then fill in the fields on the left just like I did the other day. But when I click the "Extend" button on the left, I get the spinner for maybe half a second, and nothing happens. This is happening on both the tracks that haven't been processed yet and on stuff I already uploaded that previously worked. The page says I have 50 credits, so not sure what's going on. Anybody here know what the issue might be?

terse onyx
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50 plays to 10k in 30 minutes, wtf! Does Suno have analytics to be able to tell where listens are coming from?

lyric sonnet
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is there a way to 'subtract' from a prompt? like, to prevent suno from using the word 'neon' in every second song?

umbral fjord
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I guess suno doesn't like one of my verse because it randomly refuses to sing the first half of it in every single generation. The whole song is fine except it just won't with that verse 😢

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umbral fjord
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I'm using 972 / 3000

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umbral fjord
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It's not the verse either. I added fuiller words, I changed the words...it skips the first few lines no matter what

charred merlin
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If you want, you could DM your lyrics so I could try a couple generations to see if anything stands out as "suno-problematic"?

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I'm not positive I'll be able to figure something out, but it sounds like you've run the gamut of testing, and sometimes it's easier for someone else to approach it with fresh eyes, rather than try to keep making you try new things -- I'd be happy to share thoughts if you like any of the results

polar spade
# foggy wing Anyone else have trouble with extensions becoming 2 seconds long with a tag that...

Suno will definitely give you a less than 8 second output if it feels the origin has enough blank space somewhere. Also, if you happen to remove all (or a good portion of) lyrics from the original gen, it can then give you abrupt extensions anywhere down the line. Otherwise, yes, it does (up to about 15% of the time?) give some short outputs. Some I can still use ( and like the free credit refund).

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Alright. Sure, thanks! I'll PM you

charred merlin
# broken idol Greetings all, new user and apologies if this isn't the right place to ask this....

First off -- welcome to the server! 😄
Always happy to see engaged green-leaves hanging out in the tech-chat, which leads me to second off, perfect place for more in-depth questions about getting familiar with Suno.

re: errors Extending -- admittedly I've never run into that particular issue, but it's typically the case that we can't "Extend" from songs that are still processing -- if you're able to Extend them somehow before they've finished being created, there might be a browser glitch involved (either client-side or server-side, tbd)

That said, what all have you tried so far to resolve the issue? Does it happen after a restart, on a new browser, in a private window, etc? Logged in & out of Suno account? (every little bit helps figure out the best way to approach the next steps 💪 )

polar spade
# brisk beacon hello! has anyone had any luck getting specific notes/chord progressions? this i...

I'd like to know to what extent suno has in music theory. Otherwise it doesn't need theory or musical knowledge. it just "learns" from auditoryusic models what progressions humans like to use in western music (or eastern music if Indian or Asian songs). I'm sure, if no other knowledge, then it knows "#" culturally as "hashtag" more than "sharp" and the other letters are just garbage?

Have you tried "C sharp 4th" so it audibly has some relation to a pattern which represents a musical inference to suno? I've not.

charred merlin
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polar spade
# umbral fjord It's not the verse either. I added fuiller words, I changed the words...it skips...

I kept getting the same. This was when I started going to the original/origin [generation 1] , when starting my extension [part 2, part 3, . . . ] , and click edit lyrics and remove any lyrics other than those I will also have in my extension. [ remember to copy all lyrics and archive somewhere]. I'd then do my extension normally and it would work. When I "Get Whole Song" I can then paste back in all appropriate lyrics for the final -- and with the Great Spirits blessings -- be able to regenerate a video with the property lyrics. [Though I really don't use the video thingy much-- it's nice to know everything works].

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sinful acorn
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how can i get it to stop adding in a beat track? i used to be able to say 'piano' and it would only use piano as an instrument. now even if i try 'piano only' it still throws in other instruments and background beats.

charred merlin
# sinful acorn how can i get it to stop adding in a beat track? i used to be able to say 'piano...

It's difficult to prompt that degree of specificity, since Suno infers styles from EVERYTHING -- for an example, here's a song with zero metatags, zero style prompts, and only the single lyric "I'm so angry right now", and it turned into the exact kind of rock song you'd expect. https://suno.com/song/65a2e520-e54a-4def-be67-d483a08a49eb

That said, https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253341197917884530 negative prompts have been a known-suggestion for a while since Suno doesn't recognize prompts like "no drums" or "drums only" -- whereas it's more effective to use style prompts or thematic descriptors that imply the instruments you want (a cappella if you only want vocals, for instance -- I've found some success with "drum solo" or "drumline" trying to get JUST drums)

Also, breaking your song creation into segments can make it a lot easier to get a "tapestry" of sound without needing to accomplish it all as a "one-shot generation" -- start off ONLY trying to get piano without any lyrics or extra style prompts -- don't try to create the entire song, ONLY the intro, and then extend from that once you've found a part that you want to "lock in".

This method costs more credits, but allows you to take a hands-on approach to your song creation ,allows you to flex your experimentation & musical appreciation skills, and if you approach the process as a collaborative learning experience (instead of expecting Suno to simply "get it right" without any extra work on your part), you end up with a whole LIBRARY full of "b-sides and rarities" to go back and work on later, instead of feeling like "you wasted X-many credits" hoping for "the perfect one-shot"

I'm so angry right now! by @theharber | Suno

A song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

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unique stone
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I'd try anti-piano xD

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sinful acorn
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thanks for the answers.
the songs i made that stuck to piano only were on v3. so i was linking shorter segments together when i created them. spending credits isnt an issue for me as long as i get what works for my style or need.

jade sapphire
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hi there, has anyone ever reported that a song just disappeared? I am more amused than annoyed right now... anyway, made a song, listened to it, it stopped at about 1:47 (it was a 3:00 min song, roughly), pushed the play button a couple of times - didnt work. Refreshed the page and the song I just listened to was gone... just boof. The other (second) version I still had in my library, but not that one. It was not in my trash either, so I dont know what happened. Cant back it up with anything bc gone is gone.. i am just curious if you guys know about this?

charred merlin
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sinful acorn
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I had that problem before too, but the song reappeared a few hours later.

jade sapphire
# charred merlin 🫗

it wasnt even mid processing that was the fun part, i listened to it but i guess a bug is a bug, cant help... it was just the oddest thing i have experienced so far on Suno

jade sapphire
broken idol
# charred merlin First off -- welcome to the server! 😄 Always happy to see engaged green-leaves ...

Thank you! This is a problem that's as sudden as it is strange--like I said, I tried going back and re-extending other songs that had worked before, but nothing happened. At another user's suggestion I also tried to just generate a song without an upload, but nothing happened. I've tried switching browsers, clearing caches, logging out and then back in again, I've even tried switching to a different machine (not a VM) and trying it there, again using multiple browsers. I can't do it without logging in--when I click the "Create" button I'm prompted to log in, so I can't try it without being logged in.

broken idol
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I can share a link to one of the songs that worked before and to one that's not working now if that would help

wispy nebula
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I think this may be the last month I use Suno. Tired of all the weirdness and how it sounds of less quality than months ago. One thing I've noticed is how one instrument turns into another halfway through a melody, particularly things like a flute becoming percussive and changing into a marimba and back. Really off-putting. I guess AI is still in its infant stage from the looks (and sounds) of things.

lone inlet
charred merlin
# jade sapphire hmmm... it wasnt a very good one so i am not holding my breath 😄 maybe it show...

I'm not sure what all you tried for searching (god help you if its in the trash, that's a nightmare to search) -- but you need to search for the exact way something was typed, even if it's just a single lyric.

I find it easier to search for a specific word that I know I used as a lyric or style prompt and try to search for that specifically, then narrow down the results based on the times they were all created.

Not a fun use of anyone's time, especially when it's not a "make or break" song, but it's a small enough annoyance that really bugs you after a while, like an itch that you just can't quite seem to place -- not quite annoying enough to get up any take serious action, but annoying enough that you'll spend longer than you probably want to trying to solve it because "it should just be an easy thing" 😛

broken idol
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@charred merlin Any thoughts on the issue I'm running into? Definitely feels like a server-side issue

keen mural
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Yes I understand the credit system. I've made 50 or more creations on suno. Not made any of them public. Mean while never paid for the platform. That being said... When I couldn't create anymore, I tried to create another account to see whats going on. Was it a ban on my account? After creation another account / logging in with different method, it allowed me to start a new user, but then even that user couldn't create after the first or second run. Wondering if my IP got banned or if there is a server bug? Not been able to create in a long while and would understand if they blocked me from creating more because I've already created a bunch for free. Thanks for any insights as I love the software and have created alot of great stuff. Not paid for suno because I'd love to have suno use my music / creations in their promotions. again, another reason I decided to not make them public as I want to work directly with suno and discuss a deeper partnership.

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TLDR: I can't create anymore... Banned IP or server bug? I wanta create again, but can't.

charred merlin
lofty willow
jade sapphire
broken idol
charred merlin
keen mural
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I'll contact support@suno.com and see what I can't get figured out.
If anyone has a contact / name of someone I should reach out to about this, I'd love that. Also a dev and would be super dope to work with the company. AI pending projects of my own.

broken idol
# charred merlin That would be great -- you can post them here or DM, whichever you're more comfo...

Here's one that worked previously: https://suno.com/song/650c8c87-0069-4b29-80fb-fa256495e97f
And here's a new one that never worked: https://suno.com/song/af7d7b85-5c28-47a4-87d4-956409a34b6b

TNPiR94 Guitar Lift by @conflagrantcrowd8536 | Suno

A song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

▶ Play video
FFeud99 Round 1 Commercial Cue by @conflagrantcrowd8536 | Suno

A song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

▶ Play video
charred merlin
# keen mural I'll contact support@suno.com and see what I can't get figured out. If anyone ha...

While I'm not on the team, from everything I've seen in 2024, the team doesn't reach out through discord about collabs with small businesses -- usually it's a matter of contacting support@suno.com with an eye-catching proposal for them to pass onto the team.

#📜┃rules message 3️⃣ is not to send unsolicited DMs, so unless the devs are asking you to contact them through here, it's not proper Discord netiquette to ping them or DM your business ideas.

I've seen people post longform business proposals in #🗣️┃chill-chat before and the vibe seemed to be that as long as it's a one-off post and not a series of requests, that it seemed fine at the time (just sharing observations -- the mods and guides with the blue names are the hosts, and what they say stays or goes, I'm just a chatty user)

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🤙🤘

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I hope they dig your email proposal blue_heart_askew

keen mural
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Forgive me for putting my concerns / entire thoughts with suno here. Any advice about why I'm getting blocks on suno and can't create? Getting a server error. I can send a screenshot if that helps?

charred merlin
unique stone
broken idol
charred merlin
charred merlin
keen mural
# unique stone Given that it affected you after creating a new account, I wonder if it's someth...

was only using the website... But I did recently attempt to login via my phone app on iOS = maybe when I installed the app this started? IDK can't really remember. Was using the webapp / website for a long time. I also got worried that they might of blocked me because I tried to write a song in russian. I was just testing the capabilities' and sure enough the app is ghoated, when it works. I'll send my screenshot.

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After reading through my first message there were others who experienced a server bug not letting them create anymore.

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this is what I'm seeing too.

unique stone
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Yeah there have been a few cases where this has happened. Sending an email to support is the best thing to do in case you're blocked for some reason.

keen mural
broken idol
charred merlin
charred merlin
# broken idol Here's one that worked previously: https://suno.com/song/650c8c87-0069-4b29-80fb...

I was able to extend from both of them without issue -- and while this MIGHT not be relevant to the issue you were experiencing, regardless of what model is selected, extending from an audio upload defaults to v3.5 -- I wonder if that could play into the strangeness, but still way too early-doors to make any educated guesses.

Without making you test TOO much more, does the issue also persist if you use the Suno website from a mobile browser on your cellphone? (not the suno app)

polar spade
broken idol
polar spade
terse onyx
polar spade
broken idol
polar spade
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I'll step back from asking questions to save confusion.

flint havenBOT
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While this is a cool technical problem, Woodhouse wonders if @broken idol had read the TOS before uploading the clip?

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This is not a hint: Naturally the Suno Discord cannot totally police what members discuss with each other outside of the Discord in DMs. No, not a hint at all...

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nods

charred merlin
# terse onyx That was my first thought, but it continues to say it

Just the one song that you can tell - yeah?

I know it might seem like a small thing, but since I don't really share my songs aggressively, each play & like matters to me a great amount because it feels like a small degree of personal connection, instead of just a "follow4follow" kinda thing, so this kind of glitch might make others happy, but I personally wouldn't see it as a happy accident.

Unfortunately, nothing we can do from a community sense, but I'd email support@suno.com with the list of effected songs, politely explain the problem and let them know you want to REMOVE plays from your account that were caused by a glitch (just worried that phrasing it as "the play count is wrong" could be quickly interpreted as "it really should show MORE likes, please add them")

glossy imp
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I have a question regarding ownership of generated songs, that I didnt see in the help section.

I know songs generated while you are not subbed are owned by Suno, even after you subscribe, you only own songs you generate while subbed.

But what about using the regenerate song button on those older songs? would those then count as being generated while subbed, thus you own them? or is there just no way to get it.

safe hazel
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There is no "regenerate song" button

glossy imp
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regenerate video is what I meant, my bad

safe hazel
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regenerating a video doesnt change ownership of the song

crisp basin
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I have a question, is it possible to buy in any way a generated song you made when you weren´t subbed?

mystic hill
lament cove
violet tundra
unique stone
violet tundra
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I'm not sure either, but logically, nobody owns any AI generated thing. This is clear. Suno licenses them. An unsubbed song is licensed to Suno; meaning they retain the license. But all songs in the open library can be extended - all you need is a link. The extension, is yours. The previous is not. If i'm wrong, the TOS should be updated because although I don't build off old songs, I'm sure there are people with subscriptions who do.

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And suno tech does not create derivatives.... it creates new music... based on old stuff... The line is transformative, defining when an extension crosses that line... well, that's what we're talking about,

crisp basin
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Thank you so much for your help, I'll send them an email and let you know what they tell me about extending existing songs after being suscribed.

thick gazelle
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I have so many questions about how to do certain things but it is past 2am so I am gonna keep it nice and simple for my first question so I don't have to think to much XD
At what time/timezone do we get our free daily points?

unique stone
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/refresh

flint havenBOT
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Free Credits Refresh

Refreshes at 0000 UTC+0 (<t:1713225600:t> in your localtime)

unique stone
thick gazelle
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well I'll be darned haha
thankyou king

thick gazelle
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when making a metal & rap song where the metal part is sung by a woman and the rap by a guy
what do I write to ensure the right verses are sung in the right style by the right artist?
I threw a guess down with things like [Outro Bob Rapping] but it didn't really do the trick.
the song that came out was an absolute banger but still XD

tight spade
muted timber
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Hello - could it be that the voices arent any longer so clear as they were before? They all sound very robotic-synthetic to me now so that i have to delete a lot of songs atm because they sound not good. anymore.

sleek harness
safe hazel
solar storm
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nothing

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whats supposed to happen??

rose jasper
solar storm
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Def doesn’t lol

covert void
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How do you precisely control the length of the song structure?

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For example, the prelude. I just want it to play for five seconds.

safe hazel
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you can't

covert void
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Is there a tag that roughly controls the length of a song?

safe hazel
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no, there isn't. v3.5 songs can be up to 4 minutes, v3 songs can be up to 2 minutes

rose jasper
covert void
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Yes, I want suno to generate background music for video. If I can control it accurately, I can match it

rose jasper
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[bars] <- Try using this one

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for example:

[verse 1] [4 bars]

covert void
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Okay, thanks. I'll try.

rose jasper
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You might need a couple of versions until it gets it however

broken hearth
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I just subbed to try this out and it says that it should be doing 10 jobs, vs the 2 for free version. But it's still doing only 2 versions of a song at a time, not 10. Is there a way to change this?

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Oh ok, I thoulght it would give me more choices

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I am also curious,l how do you tell the prompt that your song is a parody? Like give it the origional song name and it will have the same tune as the origional song? I tried to type it in the "style of music" field but it didn't match the origional at all.

sleek harness
rose jasper
charred merlin
rose jasper
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hahaha, of course you needed to fact check pcGiggle

charred merlin
broken hearth
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I tried to put the genera of the origional song, but it didn't match at all.

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Nightwish - I want my tears back, is the song that it should match

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But none of the picks sound even remotly simimular

charred merlin
broken hearth
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I feel like I'm just wasting credits just trying to get a simular one

charred merlin
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Also, the BIGGEST determining factor on the output of the songs is what you use as input -- what are you using as style prompts between each version, or it it a matter of using the same thing and pulling the slot over and over hoping for "it to work properly this time"?

broken hearth
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I am pasting the lyrics I wrote into it.

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I do notice that it does mix up some lines

charred merlin
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What "style of music" are you entering?

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Or are you just using simple mode?

broken hearth
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Symphonic metal, female singer

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That's what nightwish is

charred merlin
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Okay -- 2 follow up questions

broken hearth
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  1. is that the only thing you've used as a style prompt between each generation? (not adding anything else, or trying to reword what you're looking for?
  2. have you ONLY used v3.5? because as I said, v3.5 is generic if you're not being effective and creative with use of style prompts -- try v3 for "broad and versatile" -- v3.5 has it's own set of strengths and weaknesses
broken hearth
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Uhh, yea I haven't touched that

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I tried to add parody of nightwish "i want my tears back" but then it keps adding that line to the song?

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I think it understand the symphonic metal part, but it's just the beat/rhythem, just not adding up

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I tried to upload the instramental but it said that was too large file XD

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Damn

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Oh, ok

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I thoulght it was fair use?

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I was involved quite heavily with the WoW music community - many parody artists.

charred merlin
broken hearth
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Ohh ok

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I understand

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Ohh ok

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I understand then

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Alright, thank you! 🙂 I will try to work on my prompts.

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I can't sing so I was hopng that this would help me get these songs made that I wrote over the years, lol

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Seems cool anyways

charred merlin
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That suggestion is so cash money 😉

stray bolt
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I can not figure out how to make tunes with a medieval tavern feel to them, suno just keeps forcing in modern pop aspects and sort of pop voice style along with drums or 808s etc D:

violet tundra
charred merlin
violet tundra
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99% 3.5 I rarely use 3.0 much anymore.

simple osprey
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i have an extension which needs only to be 20 sec. but suno generates second after second... Even with Closing Tag [End] or [End Song]...

violet tundra
violet tundra
charred merlin
violet tundra
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which is pretty okay, actually, the modern rock style notwithstanding.

charred merlin
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ooooh, a couple interesting combinations placed together there, 100% can see how that would give tavern feels -- I'm going to roll a couple v3 generations to see if it can shed the modern "generic" feel that v3.5 just craves

simple osprey
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How can i force a song to end?

violet tundra
simple osprey
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Is there something im doing wrong?

charred merlin
simple osprey
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dont worry! KEKW

charred merlin
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😅 feast or famine these days, but I'll do a quick check now before I scoot off to bed 💪

simple osprey
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uhh that's nice!

iirc i heard that i have to leave the style field blank if i want the exact same style?

charred merlin
simple osprey
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i extend from extensions

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First instrumental then the rest

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charred merlin
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Okay, I'm going to give a summarized version of my usual riff on it, but with the caveat that a friend of mine is getting WILD results that put the concept in strange new light, BUT they still swear by the explanation as having helped them understand the process better

simple osprey
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I'm all ears

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I'm slowly getting scared.

charred merlin
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lmfao

simple osprey
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please tell me u still have the text

charred merlin
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yeah, forgot which server I was in for a second

simple osprey
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ahh good

charred merlin
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😅 re: leaving the style field blank, Suno derives stylistic output from EVERYTHING ([including songs with only lyrics] https://suno.com/song/65a2e520-e54a-4def-be67-d483a08a49eb) , so leaving the style section blank (or minimally filled) will help ensure that the main thing contributing to the style of an extension is section you're extending from and any input text.

When extending, Suno is only able to "hear" as far back as the clip it's extending from -- this means if you're extending from part 2 in order to create part 3, Suno has NO IDEA what part 1 / the original clip sounded like 🫨 -- this means that every extension that you extend from just adds another layer of unpredictability as it has no idea how to stack this house of cards -- but v3.5 is ever the immaculate professional, and will do whatever it can to try to tie together a cohesive song -- sometimes making incredibly good guesses from a "musical response" as to what "the next call" should sound like, but this is essentially the musical-equivalent of photocopying a photocopy of a photocopy, etc. After a while, all of the original detail is lost.

So how can we avoid this problem? I have songs to make! Once you've found a couple sections that you REALLY like the beginning of, use "get whole song" to "solidify" those sections and get yourself a "full song" to extend from -- this way you've prevented part 2 from "blocking the view" of the original segment, because you've grouped parts 1 & 2 together, so the extension is able to hear the full song from the beginning, giving a better chance of the extension sounding like a cohesive part of a full song, instead of having each extension act like it's "starting fresh" and needing to innovate on the melody provided to try to add structure -- we already HAVE structure, it's just spread out across multiple extensions, so v3.5 can't see it all at once. You'll notice a LOT more cohesion once you stop to "save your progress" more frequently.

So how do we use this to our advantage? if you don't mind the fact that no one is scooping the bugs out of the water, you can head over to the pool party > #1256301881966198805 to look at the example for Terminator Extensions to see how you can extend from 0:01 of part 2 in order to cut the "song context" to effectively zero, and force the song to swap styles a lot more easily.

simple osprey
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Ahhh, okay!

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Thank you!

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so "whole song" after every extension and im fine

charred merlin
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It's a way of "locking in" extensions to make sure they're a part of the "full song" you're building on -- sometimes it's good to have that separation, like if you don't want the main "hook" from a song for a section, or if you have a bridge that you want to force

But yeah, each extension can put up its own roadblock -- it's a pain in the ass until you realize that those roadblocks are pretty much the only tool you have to FORCE suno to leave something in -- even if you only use 2-3 seconds of an extension, then "get whole song" -- you're building "the perfect song" by piecemeal.

100% not advocating that every song should be made this way, nor am I saying that "one-shot generations" aren't as special, but I'll end on the note that I've yet to have been moved to tears by a "one-shot generation". Can't say the same about a carefully crafted song that I put ATTENTION into. Hell yeah it's satisfying to roll 1000 credits and hit a jackpot, but rolling 50 credits and finding THE PERFECT 5 second intro in an extension is so exciting.

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Sorry for the typical walls of text, love y'all weirdos -- hope you're doing well blue_heart_askew

simple osprey
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Its all good! Thanks a lot !

thick gazelle
late flame
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hello ; anyone could tel me why I can t use the 1500 credits I had since I ve stop to subscribe this month?

rapid bluff
rapid bluff
thick gazelle
late flame
polar spade
# charred merlin It's a way of "locking in" extensions to make sure they're a part of the "full s...

One type of "1 shot gens" that I DO get are completed songs , with intro to end, varied melodies, and pretty cool songs , but suno-made , purely all suno, so babble-scat lyrics. It's like suno has no problem writing it's own good clear song if it ignores your prompts completely. And these are the songs I love singing along with, once I learn the Sunomese. The trick is how to replace real lyrics for the babble without it going with a new sound. I'm working on that.

Here's the last one that happened that way. You can see the song is nothing of the lyrics. Not one word. I was working on re-running my BEETS (children song) for the contest this week and this popped up. Great material to write a song with as Ive written a few this way. Just a different way to do it.
https://suno.com/song/147eaf55-7bdd-496e-9dcf-f55f9358d9b4

Babble childrens song by @dasvon | Suno

Children song, ccm, bollywood, guitar, song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

▶ Play video
rapid bluff
thick gazelle
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Mhm, fair enough
Guess I was unlucky with my metal rap song, every verse was a mix XD
I'll try making something fun today :) thankyou for the help

rapid bluff
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No worries!

polar spade
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Lol. Yea. Suno knows when to say. "Hey man, your song lyrics are terrible, I'm just going write my own for ya. "

polar spade
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Agree. I've got a six word prompt that, seemingly would just follow my lyrics. But if lyrics are left blank, suno comes up (within 15 gens) with its own babble hit song. I give up and just write words to whatever suno creates. Lol

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Suno must actually have a language. I hear some of the same sounds in different songs.

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Once I set up a sunonstation in my office. With legal pad and pen ready.

polar spade
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I have a 4 minute 80s style rap song that's definitely worth trying to write all the babble lyrics down.

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If you've not done yet. Use v3.0 and prompt "stand up comedian" you'll get whole set of jokes in babble complete with audience laughing and applause. It's funny too how eventually you start laughing at the jokes , even when you don't understand

naive quail
# simple osprey so "whole song" after every extension and im fine

Keep in mind that there may be times when doing an extension where you don't want Suno to read all the way back to the beginning of the song, perhaps when doing the first chorus after multiple verses, or adding a bridge or breakdown where you want the melody to change a bit or have a complete departure from the original melody. That's where extending from extensions can be helpful.

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particularly with instrumentals where Suno laughs at the idea of "Song Structure" and just wants to repeat musical phrases over and over again

cold swallow
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guys