📚┃suno-school

[charred merlin]

@unique stone have you publicly commented on these songs?

[naive quail]

lol

probably better left unsaid.

[unique stone]

I actually forgot to listen to the earlier one

Is this from an uploaded audio?
Also wth at the intro metatag lol

[naive quail]

early morning pre-coffee goofiness 😄

Yea, I have a couple Udus. I keep meaning to get my mics hooked up and do a proper recording. I just used my phone for that

[unique stone]

It sounds really good. I was not expecting that level of clarity lol

The headphones I'm using right now are really bassy so it made my brain wobble

[untold briar]

Anytime you can get Suno to repeat vocals more like an instrument, you can overlay that way. Random recent clip example
https://suno.com/song/1ccab449-0911-4464-af63-f5f7ca11a178

[naive quail]

I love how it doubled up on the bassy slaps

[brittle apex]

nice

[untold briar]

a capella related styles do it more easily. Not too much overlaying here, but some:
https://suno.com/song/6be9b09e-c748-4010-af15-9ac959be2c6a

[naive quail]

This feels like Furry's emoji song 😄

[brittle apex]

Here is a playlist some of the ideas I've experimented with: https://suno.com/playlist/21c1aaf0-239b-47d9-815c-de9c29d2da00

[naive quail]

Got distracted, as usual. I wanted to see where Suno would go with it with no further "lyrics" after verse 2. https://suno.com/song/1a059dd9-5b40-4f2b-963b-d9b5e757fba7

[ocean jetty]

I uploaded my own audio expecting vocals with lyrics in custom mode. The result was just the instrumental I created and uploaded without vocals

[lilac trail]

did you tell it lyrics to use?

[naive quail]

your upload gets added to the library as a track, completely separate from the "Create" section that you may have uploaded it from. You can then extend from it like any other track

[ocean jetty]

Yes I did

[ocean jetty]

So, I see the uploaded created track, the next step is to add the lyrics and genres? The end result will provide vocals over my instrumental?

[naive quail]

It's a bit misleading having the upload button where it is. 😦

Suno may attempt to continue what you've uploaded with lyrics and styles added with the extension... or it may use the upload as an influence for the extension. Or it may just do its own thing. You'll have to experiment with it.

[leaden lark]

I’ve had mixed results with my audio base, but it usually uses a similar melody or vocal style as the base in my songs I’ve made

[ocean jetty]

It took the instrumental, and turned into a different instrumental with vocals - is that the function only for the upload track?

[leaden lark]

If you’re extending from the uploaded audio, it tends to use that as a base and make a new instrumental around that

[ocean jetty]

But the function of uploading tracks, with provided lyrics, and genres should lead to vocals over the provided instrumentals?

[leaden lark]

Does the uploaded track have lyrics in it?

[ocean jetty]

N

[naive quail]

Not really. It'll treat the upload as any other track, so the extension will be a continuation of the upload, which you can influence (to varying degrees) with the style and lyrics.

[ocean jetty]

It's a instrumental

[leaden lark]

So the ai would use the instrumental and try to create a song along with the audio and will use whatever lyrics you put into the lyric box

[ocean jetty]

With the vocals I provide?

[ocean jetty]

When uploading the track, it only uplodaded the instrumental,

I did provide the lyrics and genres

When using the extending function, it just made new tracks, they key was right, but the BPM was off, but totally different instruemntal

behind the vocals when extending

[naive quail]

the upload function is completely separate from the create window. It has nothing to do with what is in the style and lyrics box when you upload.

Thus my earlier comment on it being misleading. They need to rethink that.

here's an example that I just made. The first 4 seconds are me slapping an Udu on my lap. I extended from that... so everthing from 5s onward is Suno using my upload as a reference. I then used "Get Whole Song" from the extensions 3-dot menu to combine my upload with the extension for the final track - it basically just stitched Suno's extension onto the end of my 4s of Udu https://suno.com/song/b127d3ce-601b-4d82-ba6e-2d13771d38a0

[leaden lark]

I did something similar https://suno.com/song/0ea1f38e-1d31-4bfc-8eb1-fdec484ba5a6 I used the original song chopped as up the base to get this

[naive quail]

Nice!

[leaden lark]

So I did the same thing you did and then hit get full song

[ocean jetty]

Both sounds, great. ok I'll go

I'll give that a go

[naive quail]

@ocean jetty play around with the extension time when you're extending from an upload. If you have silence at the end and extend from that, you'll often just hear bits and pieces of your upload in the extension - maybe occasional hints of it in the melody. If your extension point cuts abruptly into the upload, Suno will usually try to continue what it hears.

[ocean jetty]

Here is the original uploaded to SUNO, with provided lyrics, and genres https://suno.com/song/75123e1c-0510-4bd0-a8de-f213803e5ceb

[ocean jetty]

This the Extention at 13 secs https://suno.com/song/9fb7eaf5-c03f-4acc-bff2-dadc5fa72f77

[naive quail]

You can't provide lyrics and styles with the upload, though.

[ocean jetty]

Got you, so the workflow is uploaded, than extend

[naive quail]

ya!

[ocean jetty]

I think I am just misunderstanding the fuctions of what SUNO can do

[leaden lark]

Suno can do a lot of magic with the right tags and encouragement to guide the ai

[safe hazel]

We could all use some good encouragement

[ocean jetty]

Makes sense, just like Chat GPT and prompting. I am just seeing if we can get some creative juice from SUNO for vocals. It's just another tool we may can use for an end result. I am sure all walks of life use SUNO for different reasons.

[leaden lark]

True! Suno used the vocals of the base audio for this and did its magic on the delivery https://suno.com/song/994c6831-7a26-40f9-9776-53ac25b2fdf0 though the style text and tags helped this

[ocean jetty]

Sounds great! So no added instrumentals, or BPM change?

[leaden lark]

Nope, just extended from 00:01 of the audio base

And let Suno cook for me

[fluid vault]

Just dropped in to say I love you all! Keep up the amazing work!!!

@naive quail love the new image. Fav by far!

[leaden lark]

Thank you! Hope your day has been amazing and productive

[fluid vault]

Always doing something! Thank you! ADHD got me running around chasing squirrels!

[naive quail]

Fits better with the theme of my playlists 😄

[fluid vault]

Where'd my favorite leaf go!?

[naive quail]

heh

[fluid vault]

😄

[plush field]

i am playing with https://sonoteller.ai/ and ChatGPT

I am giving ChatGPT details from sonoteller to create a useful prompt for Suno

🙃

[naive quail]

Ya, I've recommended sonoteller to a few people here

[plush field]

ChatGPT prompt:

I need help creating a prompt for Suno.ai to generate a song. I will provide specific details in four stages. For each stage, please ask for the necessary information and use it to craft a detailed prompt for Suno.ai. Here’s the structure:

LYRICS ANALYSIS:
Please provide a detailed analysis of the song's lyrics. Include information on themes, mood, and style.

MUSIC ANALYSIS:
Next, provide an analysis of the musical style, genre, tempo, and instrumentation.

VOCALS:
Next, provide an analysis of vocals.

TARGET LANGUAGE:
Finally, which language should the lyrics be written in?

Once you have this information, use the following format to create a prompt for Suno.ai:

- Style Description (120 characters max): Create a concise description of the musical style and genres based on the music analysis.
- Lyrics (3000 characters max): Write song lyrics based on the lyrics analysis. Include backing vocals as text in parentheses where appropriate, but not for every verse.

Ensure that:

- The song text is in the target language.
- Backing vocals are in the target language.
- The style description accurately reflects the musical style and genres provided.
- Structure the lyrics with English labels like [Verse 1].
- Do not use the text "Backing vocals:"

Ask for each step, one by one, and clearly mark them.

[ocean jetty]

So what do you guys do with these tracks? Say just lyrics, you wouldn't take a Ai created song and upload it to DSP?

[fluid vault]

@olive gorge Careful, @flint haven gets hungry

@naive quail I don't really play games any more, but if u do I can invite you to gaming under the influence group. :p

[plush field]

if anyone finds this prompt useful and enhance it in any way, please share when you do

[naive quail]

For me, it's just a toy right now. If they ever protect uploads so that people can't access them, I might get more serious with it. Just play for now.

Plenty of people clean up their Suno tracks in a daw and upload to spotify and other services, tho.

[naive quail]

I haven't been gaming at all lately. Too many other distractions 😄

[fluid vault]

Lol I'm with ya

Afk! Love you all

[ocean jetty]

I am producer, in a studio with projects. I'm just seeing if SUNO can be a another tool. To each it's own. How would you clean it up in a DAW? I noticed their is a level different the final provided can def use a bump with a limiter when comparing to other commercial songs.

I did bring a few creations in my DAW and you can hear the change artifacts by taking already produced music. (BTW I am not trolling, I am just intrigued by Ai and limitations.)

[leaden lark]

I usually make a song, go through an ai master, and then throw it into FL Studio to clean it up more

That way, I also learn more about the mastering process as I do it

[ocean jetty]

That would give you the "Master" of what SUNO provides, so what are using to clean it up? In terms of Post Production Processing, I.e EQ, compression, saturation

[leaden lark]

More like it’s a learning tool for me to learn about what stuff does

[naive quail]

haven't played with that myself but I know many other users do it. You may want to ask in the general chat. I feel like I'd still cringe at the audio quality, tho. 😄

[leaden lark]

I found out if I do stuff right, I can make it sound better, but there’s frequencies mixed between all the parts as things get mixed together into one track

And the stem feature isn’t the greatest right now

[ocean jetty]

In the audio production world, we don't take Mastered tracks and do anything with. It will cause clipping. @leaden lark a great way to compare but even adding a slight EQ bump on any frequency on a tracks with a limiter will lead to clipping

[naive quail]

I'm quite familiar with the process. Just not with what people are doing with their Suno tracks.

[leaden lark]

I know about clipping, it’s just that I use the tracks as a way for me to learn effect chains and stuff like that

[ocean jetty]

Got you, so I feel SUNO has no real benefit for me. It's a really cool tool though, but if I can't provide an instrumental, with lyrics, and genres and will give me a vocal take from my instrumental provided without changing it - it doesn't work as a tool for me. I don't want prompt it 100 times to benefit me.

[ocean jetty]

As a master what FX chain would you use? Mastering to me is about slight alters to the audio to bring it to a final product. I woulnd't use reverb or delay on a master

[naive quail]

I suspect that will come eventually as well as generations with legit stems instead of tracks being generated as masters. We're definitely not there yet, though

[ocean jetty]

I will say again, no trolling, just curious on this new technolgy, because it's really cool what you can do - I am just curious on how I can use it

[leaden lark]

Which I totally get! Suno allows me to make things I wish I could make

But that just means I’ll need to sit down in FL more and crank songs out

[ocean jetty]

Give it sometime, it will benefit me. Again, it blows my mind of what it can do.

[ocean jetty]

It's a fun way to learn, if you ever need some practice tracks, all stems, I can see you some to learn on

I am all about up and coming send*

[leaden lark]

Thanks! That would really help, but I have like over 30 wips right now

So I should work on some of those first

[ocean jetty]

Cheers everyone, I appreciate you all for helping me understand SUNO

[charred merlin]

@brittle apex are you still around?

[chrome scarab]

Hey. Anyone here can let me know why Suno didn't take my genre tags and starting inventing new words in the genre tags for instrumental?

[charred merlin]

You're using Simple Mode?

[chrome scarab]

Yes, did not enable "Custom"

[charred merlin]

"It's a feature, not a bug"

Simple mode lets you type anything, and it will create different songs each time inspired by the prompt -- if you want to choose the genre, use Custom Mode -- you can still type whatever you want and click "generate lyrics" to have it create lyrics for you, except this time you can see them beforehand

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1259902708765167709 Here's a known-bug for generating lyrics, if you use too many characters while "generating lyrics", but anything that is left in the box will be sung as lyrics

[chrome scarab]

Oh! Thank you, that's good to know. 🙂

[charred merlin]

You're very welcome! Have fun creating, and feel free to stop by tech-chat or #1252267444773326848 if you have any questions about Suno best-practices 🍻

[prime gazelle]

Uploading is good in that it will honor my key, chords and BPM. It seems to work best when I upload a song part at least 45 seconds long.

I tried uploading just the core of a verse, chorus and bridge (basically 1 phrase of each part) but all I generally got when using Extend to generate from the upload was something generated for the verse. Prob cuz I had to squeeze all 3 in one upload.

If I could upload a songlet that was maybe 1.5 minutes long, maybe that would be enough for it to honor each separate part I dont know.

How can I upload more than one song part and have Suno create music for it appropriately (ex: Verse, Chorus and Bridge)?

Thank you.

[charred merlin]

You can only use an audio upload to start a song by extending from it at the moment, unfortunately.

[waxen ivy]

Sorry to bother. I purchased a Pro Plan to renew last year, but my region no longer supports account login, how do I cancel auto-renewal?
I still deduct $10 per month.
Which channel should I go to ask questions?

[wanton copper]

Will it be possible to upload a song that is more than 1 min?

[charred merlin]

We can give advice here, but there's no "official support" presence on Discord at the moment -- you can cancel from https://www.suno.com/account while logged into your account, or you can email [e-mail].

[charred merlin]

At the moment, we're currently only able to upload songs that are 6-60s, but this could change with future models (no statement about when v4 will come out)

[waxen ivy]

thanks. Enter the mobile phone number on the login interface and it will prompt that the region is not supported. So I can't log in to my account anymore. I've sent an email to [e-mail] and haven't responded yet.

[wanton copper]

Will you implement a more complex way to extend a song?

[prime gazelle]

Thanks thehaber.

[waxen ivy]

I use Google Translate Chinese to English, sorry to cause you inconvenience in reading.

[wanton copper]

Like a way to extend a song from a certain timestamp but still using the part after that timestamp?

[charred merlin]

They work Monday - Friday, <t:1722772800:t> - <t:1722801600:t>, usually it doesn't take too many work days before they get back to you 🙏

[waxen ivy]

thank you very much.

[charred merlin]

Each "Extend" creates a new "branching path", though perhaps in future models we will be able to "in-paint" to select any portion of a song to regenerate while leaving the others in-tact.

[charred merlin]

You are very welcome -- it was no inconvenience, I am happy to help ❤️

If it could be of further assistance, there is also a Chinese Suno chat room https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154780167047217233

[wanton copper]

Will you work on a way where the user can upload a song and have the AI replicate the instruments and melody of that song to make a new song?

[charred merlin]

The devs occasionally poke their heads into the #💡┃suggestions-web channel if you wanted to suggest that idea over there, even if someone else has suggested it before it would let the devs know that people actively want something like this. 💪

[brittle apex]

a little

[charred merlin]

I know that you were working on the overlapping vocals for your own reasons and project, and I don’t want to presume that you made the looping test specifically to contribute to this channels conversation, but I really enjoyed seeing the follow through and attempts to test a particular concept in isolation.

There’s a lot of amazing collaborative minds in this server who helped drive the term into my lexicon, but seeing you handle the issue much in the same way I would think to approach it made me want to finally get around to making this;

@delicate idol is threatening to smack me if I stay on my phone in bed much longer, so it’s time to go to sleep.

I love y’all weirdos

[sacred bramble]

Guys, how can I remove a "vocal hallucination" while keeping the rest of the song intact?

[brittle apex]

That's awesome! and I'm always done for some experimentation in the name of science. Or should I say in the name of sunovation? 😉

[hollow hare]

You could try using a vocal splitter (e.g. BandLabs) or vocal remover (like RipX DAW Pro, though there are free alternatives out there).

You may need to do some touchups to clean up the final bits but it should be sufficient for what you want.

Or you can extend before the hallucinations but that costs credits, time, and maybe your sanity

[quasi summit]

I was on an alt google account that I use for business stuff. I came over to Suno while logged into that alt account. How do I log out and into my main --> PAID <-- account?!!!

There's absolutely nothing to click in order to log out!

Google Chrome

[untold briar]

Logout is on the icon for your profile. If it is bugged, you could use an incognito window.

[quasi summit]

You're a lifesaver. Thank you! <@&1108435550475653161> team, please make this more obvious.

[vestal pelican]

Another suggestion I was thinking, it would be nice if we can have a option to regenerate / a variant button along side extend that can regenerate the song with update lyrics or so, also if we can use the same seed as the first gen, because sometimes you like the generation and if you want to make changes it's becoming almost impossible

[untold briar]

Yeah, this is a popular suggestion. I think a seed probably doesn't help that much so it's probably not the easiest feature though.

[quasi summit]

Couldn't they simply use the same tech used for stems?

[untold briar]

Well they are working on inpainting. This would allow a kind of "regenerating" lyrics, but only in sections. It would be useful for fixing a typo, for example. But not for doing a whole new version of the same song (same overall melody, voice, etc) that is still totally different.

[quasi summit]

Well I mean it would be an extension to the sound track and a vocal stem respun with the original prompt.

[golden plover]

DEFINITELY increase the 3:27 limit to 4:00

[quasi summit]

Download the free Davinci Resolve.

1. Import the media file.
2. Drag it into the timeline (Edit tab at bottom).
3. Zoom in on that spot in the audio track.
4. Go to the cut tool and cut both sides of it. Go to pointer tool and click that cutout section.
5. Drop the volume control in the "Inspector" to zero.
6. Render it out as video and strip it. Or make it mp3 right there in Resolve (youtube how to).

[plush forge]

When will output cone in a 16 track mixer with all instruments separeted? Would be fantastic

[untold briar]

Probably not anytime soon. But stems will get better over time I'm sure.

[elfin storm]

hi

[plush forge]

Well, I get suprized how fast we are miving in the ai landskapet. .

[elfin storm]

I want to combine the previous song but I want the 1.59 one and the one I made is part 2 not the 3.00 one, how do I do that?

[sacred bramble]

Thanks, I'll try that later. I did something similar to what you said in Audacity, the vocal was removed, but it was replaced by the "muffled" instrumental generated by Vocal Remover.

[digital wigeon]

What is this pink dot? SOme of my generated tracks have a pink dot.

@sacred bramble There are various models that can remove vocals on Replicate.

[unique stone]

It means it hasn't been played

[digital wigeon]

It also shows on some tracks I did already play, but thanks.

If I play them again, the dot disappears.

[hushed light]

Create

[digital wigeon]

Suno really is the best thing that happened to me since the internet.

[hushed light]

Создай трек

[regal citrus]

Всем, привет.
Подскажите а минус можно скачать из suno?

[digital wigeon]

Hey @unique stone I discovered why the dot stays on certain tracks

[unique stone]

Oh?

[untold briar]

It's a bug when you use next/prev button, instead of click

[digital wigeon]

Tiny mistake by your front end developers I think. I think the dot disappears when somebody clicks on the play button. But your interface also automatically plays the second track when the first one finished. Its always the second track that keeps the dot, probably because no play event is triggered by the user

Well it happens too in the use case I just described

[untold briar]

I think it does register the play though, just not update. if you refresh it still doesn't go away?

[digital wigeon]

Ill check

You're right, a refresh clears them

OK that's all I had

[vale rampart]

Да. Стемы надо создать. Он создаст вокал и минус

Ну и потом скачиваешь, как обычно, wav или mp3

[grave wraith]

anyone meet this error?

[sacred bramble]

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think it's difficult to have a model that can remove the vocal without replacing it with some type of distortion.

[shy fog]

/chirp

[flint haven]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/2c4d0ade-fd80-46ac-a756-be3869152642

some new sounds

https://suno.com/song/34a57ec5-a2a8-423b-9d8c-92caef4d6a74

[rose jasper]

Do you have any technical questions or advise to give on these, on how you obtained this quality?

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/b446642a-303a-4ff5-8c08-f1a20c97e8e1

I will continue to work on this for the next thirty minutes or so

[alpine venture]

a lot, honestly I unironically believe making music with ai simply raises the bar, but the skill ceiling is just as high, if not higher, than traditional instrumentation

in this case, we're getting into the core of how the model understands certain words

[rose jasper]

How do you exclude those prompts/directions in the final version?

[untold briar]

Pro users can "fix lyrics" and edit them, if that's what you mean.

[rose jasper]

I'm on the Premier Plan, what does this mean?

Do I simply hide them like I always do within [ ] ? Is this what you referred towards?

Or am I missing something crucial?

[leaden lark]

do you mean change to something like this?

[untold briar]

I mean this button

[rose jasper]

Oh, right, yes yes! But I was referring to the instructions, since they were being spoken out loud at the start, but the final versions they made had nothing being said. So I assume they are hidden within [ ] ?

[untold briar]

Oh that is up to Suno. [brackets] are not supposed to be sung, but it may happen anyway. (Especially with very long or unusual words in brackets)

[leaden lark]

the stuff in [] is more like a suggestion to the ai

but can be spoken sometimes

[rose jasper]

Yeah, which is annoying

[leaden lark]

it can ruin a good gen

[rose jasper]

Absolutely, has many times for me, but they are working on fixing this so.

[alpine venture]

oh sheeeeee

https://suno.com/song/9141c967-ec15-4e17-b102-51705645b4e6

@untold briar

I've been doing a ton of testing

I have a new methodology. I think it might be worth us all working collectively using the same method to test and get a thorough understanding of a particular set of phonemes

and then we can draw some broader conclusions

about how they combine

[charred merlin]

Hi @golden plover, are you able to elaborate on what you mean by "3:27 limit"?

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/b022800f-fcc2-452d-812e-d2622cfe9f80

new genre just dropped

[charred merlin]

Не могу делать музыку здесь, должен использовать сайт (cannot create music here, must use website)
https://www.suno.com

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422

[untold briar]

I've never had a good sense of how things combine. I mean sometimes it's just simple, like using two different genres, and music is blend of bit of both. but past the simple case, if the meanings change when combined, was always a surprise

[charred merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422

[alpine venture]

also, I know I spoke to someone at some point, maybe @teal raft maybe @untold briar who confirmed that the order of the prompts doesn't matter. This is not actually the case, as I originally thought. This is because it fails to take into account the way the tokenization changes.

[alpine venture]

so, think of it like being on a very convoluted surface

you have a ball

and you are picking where to let it foll

roll

so, things can combine in surprising ways

[charred merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1252332553738653838 It seems like it might be this known-bug, if you wanted to upvote the post to let the devs know that more people are still experiencing it -- I would advise that you contact [e-mail] so they can investigate the matter for you.

[alpine venture]

because you didn't realize there was a slope in direction X because previously, you used it with Y, and direction X was effectively irrelevant, or appeared in a way you couldn't observe due to your own musical bias (since we have go explain it all through language)

an example is umble

umble is almost folksy

but it also contains extreme bass and loud gritty delivery

since when combined with token m it must be capable of mumble rap

Anyway, with regards to ordering

[charred merlin]

It usually only speaks the metatags out loud when they've been overloaded -- they work best as 2,3 word clusters "[intimate guitar solo]" instead of "[guitar solo slowly rises in the background while drums accent every note]"

[alpine venture]

this is v similar to the above ones I shared
https://suno.com/song/167b1f6c-8d43-4a80-9ff4-7e6569343ffc

but a little rocky

it's bc hashtag as a token

contains fock

rock

2000s broadly

[untold briar]

it was me, but actually the reason I mentioned it was a counter-example, to show even getting details from Suno may not be helpful. because Suno at one point explicitly said in public chat that they intended for the order of tags seperated by commas not to matter. And I was never even sure of that one thing.

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/4feb97d9-4c8a-487d-96bc-c39be6250c7e

compared to this

it's a subtle difference that has go do with overfitting due to the limited training data containing "um" and "ble"

which is how it tokenizes umble in this second config

vs "umble"

unless order IS itself relevant

but I don't think it is. I think commas are though bc they get their own special formatting by the website

[untold briar]

the order matters outside of commas for sure, yeah

[alpine venture]

I believe it's a form of multi-prompt or alternation

[untold briar]

but even with commas I am not sure

[alpine venture]

like, commas imo are handled by a preprocessor

before being fed to whatever it is

[untold briar]

I test a lot, but I wouldn't go too deep into things because I expect V4 prompts to be as different from V3 and V3.5, as V2 is from V3. And they are very different!

though I do almost always do at least a simple raw tag test. Like I run it quick 3x (in case it's a weak tag) and it's consistent for sure
https://suno.com/song/b8dfa96d-37b7-41ab-96d9-7a4e0850681a

But after that I can never predict. For example, I thought mispelling both your words in the dash would totally change things. But actually not really!
https://suno.com/song/90fce9bf-4f99-4ff8-9e6d-a873b3a25d97

However adding one MORE letter, and the meaning is 100% nuked:
https://suno.com/song/a60f8079-0d0f-4039-9893-77d8a33b7615

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/a1535f7e-6d14-4219-924e-c98a79e28c03

pretty intense hallucination on the one above

[alpine venture]

of course, but this is always the case

so I always try until the new toy comes, bc we don't know when it's arriving

it could be longer than people think

imo it will be

for reasons

[untold briar]

I accidentally left this on V2 when testing your prompt with a random word to make sure the music style wasn't coming from the lyrics, and V2 hallucinated a sweet song https://suno.com/song/3a72f58c-7298-4ea3-85a1-35388c488981 which I finished out with pure V2 https://suno.com/song/5377e7a7-46f7-4665-a26e-c91285b103b0 V2 is still so good!

[naive quail]

On another note... Square brackets? We don't need no stinking square brackets! Suno seems to care less about them than I thought. This one uses various other symbols: https://suno.com/song/06ff37af-a5b6-4b4d-89f6-d4ece9679c61

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/c990b774-1cc7-49b8-b715-b957c7bd63b1

well that's a cool token

[naive quail]

throws fruit at @flint haven

This one just uses plain text https://suno.com/song/5cf11f19-8f49-40a2-936b-fb3e4e3c6cbc

[alpine venture]

oh I highly agree

I hope it never goes away

I think it still is under the hood

I think 3 uses 1 2 and 3 or something like that

[untold briar]

Yeah absolutely. For super super common tags like [verse] and [instrumental] you can even use baretext sometimes. but brackets are a lot more effective with the more ambitious stuff

[alpine venture]

I mean, it would make the most sense

for the composer to draw from them

the composer being an llm trained on us

bc I know I've heard v2 in gens

at times

[untold briar]

I think I gave Suno feedback something like, "If you ever decide to drop V2, give me a weeks notice so I can prepare a 30 minute powerpoint on why V2 is not replaceable (yet, at least...) As usual, I'm only half joking. It'd probably only be 15 minutes long. 😂

[naive quail]

I've tested something similar by just using [Chorus] without the "(repeat)" and no repeated lyrics after the first one. It worked fairly well when there was only another chorus or two, but would regularly start to hallucinate if there were more.

[sacred bramble]

Thanks for the suggestions. I got lucky and Suno was able to generate good extensions on the first try.

[regal citrus]

А если у меня уже есть песня созданная с моими словами в suno. И там очень крутой минус который я бы хотел скачать

[charred merlin]

https://www.bandlab.com/splitter Музыкальные основы (musical stems)

[charred merlin]

Это английский чат -- русская помощь здесь >https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422 (this is English chat, link to russian chat)

[sacred bramble]

Thank you to everyone who helped me, you guys are amazing.

[charred merlin]

@hollow hare is the 🐐

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/225382af-cf4c-4b4e-934c-97d75fdc3cb7

one interesting about this stuff is I find shorter methods to get results that usually take me more

[night jewel]

Hey anyone could help me with distribution of my first song

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/bbbbe6f6-5015-4a28-ad8f-6f08eaeb31a6

guys, what is this genre?

I know it's a specific name

but yea

we get it from this prompt

also deep hallucination

[untold briar]

mamba or another latin-y dancy- genre

[charred merlin]

While this isn't something that Suno handles, there's a number of different services you can use;

• DistroKid - (~$30/year, unlimited songs, only published while you subscribe)
• Soundrop (~$1 / song)
• LANDR (varying prices, published music is forever, LOTS of features for people who want to work on their music after Suno makes it)
• Routenote (free but long waits)
• MANY more I didn't list, only know about these ones primarily

[alpine venture]

mamaba

that's it

it's just always interesting when I find rough equivalenfies

and I'm starting to keep a little set of notes basicslly, as I think it help to better understand what sort of "axis" a given phoneme is

[night jewel]

and you told me software to serprate vocals

[charred merlin]

Yup -- BandLab handles EVERYTHING with their free account -- #📚┃suno-school message

Separating vocals & other instruments, AI mastering, DAW / song editing, sound effects, etc

[bleak bobcat]

In local, you can install Ultimate Vocal Remover (https://ultimatevocalremover.com/) Available on Windows, Mac, & Linux

[night jewel]

bro tos are clear ??

[night jewel]

Sorry to ask it ; just want to know i am kinda scare now to use my work

[bleak bobcat]

In UVR you can adjust the parameters and I have found it to be better than some online ones I have tried, although I have not tried the Bandlab remover, only the mastering.

[alpine venture]

some like, extreme slowcore
https://suno.com/song/a75285ad-0113-4d3e-8911-507fd156d9b7

it's incredible how much the model gets slow

[charred merlin]

Can you elaborate or rephrase your question?

[night jewel]

nothing bro ; i was asking like we don't get any issue by using them ?

[charred merlin]

Again, I might need a little more context for what you're asking about?

Are you asking if signing up for a free account with BandLab would be an issue?

[brittle apex]

Just added this one to the playlist, this is the most looping layers I've got yet: https://suno.com/song/2bf2f0f0-83a9-4046-a610-cddf705c072a

[night jewel]

no ; nothing bro

[rose jasper]

@night jewel @charred merlin DistroKid works wonders for me, so you can use that

[brittle apex]

In fact this structure is yielding the most consistent results yet. Here it gave me continued loops underneath the lyrics: https://suno.com/song/a7e45a6d-fab8-4429-9193-7ce310a7785c

[charred merlin]

Parnav seems really unsure about ToS -- DistroKid is amazingly cheap, fast, flexible -- but I've heard a lot of instances of them irreparably dropping support for people if things aren't handled properly. It's hard to know specifically what happened in those instances since DistroKid doesn't talk to them beyond that point for clarification.

I personally only have amazing things to say about DistroKid, but I've always handled my content uploads in a straightforward and honest manner, making sure that the Suno content was all created on a free plan, without having extended from anyone else's work. As always, be your own advocate, do your own research & just be lovely.

[vestal rapids]

DIstroKid dropped me out of the blue saying that stores had refused my music, which I then went on to publish via another distributor. The only reason my music is still up with DIstrokid is because we lawyered them. I use Soundrop now. Distrokid still pay but I am slowly moving my catalogue away from them. Distrokid isn't a good deal when you consider you need to keep subscribed to keep your music up. Much better going with a pay once per release distributor like CD Baby or Soundrop

[charred merlin]

Yeah, not the best option for long term, and for users who "cast a wide net" it might introduce too many opportunities for misunderstandings, but in terms of quickly getting started, they made the process remarkably simple. Some of the horror stories start to make more sense the more I understand how they'd interact with the DSPs, probably a trade-off of them refusing to handle complications, so I'd imagine other distributors might be a better choice who "argue" on your behalf perhaps.

I figure unless I move my songs to another distributor, if I cancel DistroKid I'll upload the largest album size they'll let me (36?) of all of the songs from the year plus any b-sides, and just pay the single "leave a legacy" fee for that -- not the ideal use case for everyone, but it helped me get started quickly, and I like that there's ways to "properly exit" in a sense.

[crimson blaze]

Hey, not sure if this is the best channel to post this but I'm getting the following error while uploading an audio while creating a new song

[vestal rapids]

the leave a legacy fee only applies if you die according to the fine print

otherwise you need to keep paying

[charred merlin]

Hey @crimson blaze, you're in the right channel 🙂

[e-mail] is the only means of contacting "official support", and they're the best and most direct way to resolve any issues you have with Suno.

If you're wanting community-assistance in the mean time, we're happy to help as well 🙂 Usually this is just a temporary issue related to internet speeds or server load, but when did you first notice this happening?

[charred merlin]

Yeah, looks like I need to find some time to delve into their ToS, I recall you having brought that up a while back.

[crimson blaze]

about 20 minutes ago... and still happening

https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1elk7l9/audio_processing_timed_out_please_try_again/ just found this too

[charred merlin]

Before checking "basic housekeeping", can you share any troubleshooting steps you've tried in the last 20 minutes, so I don't suggest things you've already attempted?

[crimson blaze]

just tried reloading the page multiple times, changing browsers, and also using a different file format for the audio, but still not fixed

[charred merlin]

tbf, there's millions of users, so there's bound to be at least one person experiencing a similar issue at any given time, but it doesn't necessarily lend itself to any sort of larger trend without further investigation.

[crimson blaze]

fair enough

[charred merlin]

Okay -- have you tried one of the browsers without extensions / popup blockers, etc?

Also, are you on VPN, or downloading/uploading any large files at the same time?

[austere dragon]

It's always the user's fault with this guy... I'm having problems with Suno as well. I'm sure they are working on whatever the issue is, but it's not just you so stop responding to the guy who always blames the user or the prompt or anything but the Suno service.

[crimson blaze]

Wait, it just somehow worked now

[charred merlin]

In the literal same minute, suddenly the temporary internet issue resolved itself.

I apologize if you feel that I was dismissive of your concerns at some point, but I'm just trying to give actionable advice.

Hope your day is going well, Jack 🍻

[austere dragon]

I'm glad it's working now! I'm still getting male vocals that sound like they are gargling rocks and not that this is important to me, but image generation isn't working.

[charred merlin]

@austere dragon I don't have any expectation that people should like me, let alone even tolerate me -- but looking back at our interactions in the last month, it really seems like we started things off on the wrong foot.

I apologize if you feel like my intentions were to blame you for Suno not doing what you want, I was simply suggesting that it would have been helpful to compare your prompting methods with those of other users to see how they handled things differently -- I didn't want to outright tell you what prompts to use incase you had the expectation that someone could give you "the magic prompts" that would work 100% of the time.

I'm sorry if I came across harsh in our first interaction, just 1 day short of a month ago, but I hope that you can see from repeated demonstrations (as well as the numerous attempts to help others in DM) that I'm not trying to blame others for trying, but actively trying to encourage them to try, and trying to figure out how I can help the user understand the platform as best as I've come to understand it with the help of the community.

If you want to know my complaints about the Suno service, you just need to ask the right questions -- I'm still freelance 😉

#📚┃suno-school message

[lilac wasp]

Apologies for double posting, I didn't notice there was a technical category (derp)

Hello again folks! I'm curious about repeated lyrics and extended vamping/jamming sessions.

Both of these can be found in this song:

https://suno.com/song/3dc37fd0-1716-410e-a35b-d3b24a65db83

Is there a way to control this?

[vestal rapids]

I just submitted my first release through BandLab, takes 5 to 7 days, much longer than Soundrop. Let's see what happens

[charred merlin]

Hey @lilac wasp!

While you don't have an exceptional amount of lyrics, I've found that almost all issues related to skipping or repeating are due to the amount of input being provided to Suno at once -- currently we don't have the ability to "in-paint" a song so that we could simply highlight a region and regenerate it. At the time, the only way to handle this in Suno itself is by placing an Extension point before the point that you want to change, and continuing the song from there (using "get whole song" to stitch together the resulting parts)

[lilac wasp]

Fascinating! Thanks for the tip, I'll have to go learn what Extension points are... 🤣

[true night]

oh to the bliss offuture if suno is a distro aswell as a maker (one can dream)
yh im on distro now but i prob will try landr at 1 point bec music stays forever , gonna suck have to upload everything again in a year O_o (iu learned that after i paid for a year 😄

[charred merlin]

If you continue to pay for DistroKid the music stays on there, but it should only be a one-time process to swap to a different service.

LANDR is pretty amazing value from what I'm coming to learn if you edit the songs externally

[vestal rapids]

Landr are terrible at royalties, I have five or six releases through them that I haven't gotten around to moving

Right now I use Soundrop, I just released a track via BandLab tonight to try

[charred merlin]

Soundrop seems to take a 15% admin cut, while LANDR is royalty free?

[true night]

but that leave a legacy is adding the legacy pr song in the album gonna be very expensive

[vestal rapids]

Landr don't pay on every stream and don't report to APRA AMCOS

[charred merlin]

As I understand, it's per album, not per song.

[true night]

atm i earn 11 cent on distrokid so im not ultra pop. 😄
but i have it for a year for the experince then i'll see were i end up , but im sorry it has gone bad for you at landr. thats terrible

[vestal rapids]

I have had two instances of receiving over $200 in compensation from Landr because my accountant sent them a pay up or else letter

[true night]

you're right, i have looked wrong then. well def could go for that option if i end 1 day .

[charred merlin]

Either way, I've heard nothing but good things about LANDR's distribution and payouts prior to this, but I'll definitely note your experience otherwise.

[vestal rapids]

I have been releasing music on digital platforms for 10 years, way before AI music

[true night]

seem youre much more diverse in the music world since u have lawer and accountants.

[vestal rapids]

I also am a writer member of APRA AMCOS https://www.apraamcos.com.au

been an APRA member for 30 years

[true night]

wonder if they have anything like that in my country , would be nice to have my lyrics copyrighted , as ive been writing loosly lyric for 20 years but it got reimagen after suno. that what made suno an option orginaly for me, it even spark the intrest to create music elsewere too (now i just gotta save up to buy the diffrent softwares(as i sold mine way back bec lack of usage)

[charred merlin]

@vestal rapids do you recall where you read the disclaimer about DistroKid's "leave a legacy" only working if you die? I'm trying to find the specific phrasing in their Terms of Service and Distribution Agreement, but I'm having trouble finding anything, if anything their support.distrokid articles seem to make it clear that it just means they won't take the album down if you stop paying -- I don't see anything about death, post-mortem, etc

[vestal rapids]

I got the information from my lawyer when we went through the dispute over them stopping releases for me. https://studiolegal.com.au

[true night]

thats grim but ofc a good thing to know i would assume it would stay there forever. but lets see if the wise man knows better

[charred merlin]

I'm not going to encourage you to share your legal documentation, but do you have any excerpts or context you could share from the paperwork you're citing?

[vestal rapids]

my outcome was that Distrokid needed to give me 10 years to move my releases without having to pay a cent more, which I don't and I still get royalties

[runic ocean]

with DistroKid has anyone ever used an AI generated logo for your album art? Just wanting to know if anyone's done that and been able to do that lol

like vivago

[limpid badge]

@charred merlin hey, could I ask for your advice about one thing.
I've heard many times that it's possibly to save a voice you liked from one Suno generation and use it to create another track, but unfortunately most of these recommendations don't work for me, or I'm doing something wrong. I've tried doing this through the Stems option, so that the initial sample only had vocals, I've tried through the Upload function and just through the Extend function, but SUNO immediately changes the voice type to a completely different one. Is there any way to use a voice sample I liked from one generation for subsequent generations?

[vestal rapids]

here is what happened, Distrokid held up two releases, when I complained they wrote back with the form letter saying that stores had rejected my releases, which was a lie. I got Studio Legal to deal with them and my lawyer came to the following arrangement that DIstrokid keep my existing releases up for 10 years without payment to let me move them in my own time and that all royalties will be paid regardless. My lawyer explored the option of Leave a Legacy and Distrokids legal department said that is for if you die. I have letter with all this detail (from 2019) that I could scan and send you

[alpine venture]

some findings from today (I'm out of creedits)

phonemes:

sl (minor fry): this is the "punchy"/edgy part of slacker, but it can be a little trite when used alone

ot (medium vocal fry, female bias ie mild data corruption) - melodic insightful build, bright generally, not quite happy, but builds the melody in a sort of bright insight direction

ica (pretty clean vocals, pop-like) - sad piano, very close to the inverse of ot

ello - almost mellow tones, usually creates like three note patterns or repeating arpegios, but overall this one is a light touch

umble (clean vocals, extraorinarily so): folksy weirdly, but also can go "hard"

My (very mild compression sound) - high variety, wide, generally mediocrity from about ten years ago

mys (good clarity, mild compression sound): mostly rock, trad rock id call it. Just a drum beat.

unk (good clarity) - bouncy, poppy

cr (high clarity, i believe vocal focused, has capacity for real quality melodic progression) - very style agnostic, although it does contain deep bass capacity, and has some wierd like, strange af voice/cloying

# (mild fry) : high pace, excited, strong pace, energetic, almost hyper-lite

hyper (mid fry): strong favor to female vocals, makes the song kind of just a normal modern pop song, but like, only the boring parts

anc - grungy

sw - bright, clear, lose sound

ore - (bad voice)

ina (slight gurgly) - good deep steady beat, very close to that hispanic beat that shows up on a lot of stuff

b (wild, has some 90s pop in there, but a really really ubique clean voice)

ural (gurgle) - 90s rock?

[charred merlin]

I can't comment on the legal situation you have with DistroKid, but "Leave a Legacy" says absolutely NOTHING in the terms of service or their distribution agreement about it only applying when you die (which would seem strange for them to suddenly activate your music on streaming services after you've died), it states in no uncertain terms that it allows your music to be distributed and you still retain 100% royalties.

I've seen multiple instances where they've continued to distribute songs after someone stopped paying, so I'm not sure your interactions with them are indicative of the larger service they provide. 🤔

[stiff sable]

it worked for me and im not dead! (at least i dont think i am!)

[charred merlin]

Out of curiosity, who told you this many times, or where did you hear it?

[sleek zinc]

How to create a song

[flint haven]

How to use Suno

Hi there!
If you’re ready to dive into creating music, head over to Suno.com.

For more detailed information, check out docs-guides-resources.

If you have any more questions, just ask in #general-suno where you can always find our community, moderators and guides to help you with most questions. 😊

[true night]

i found out yesterday that suno dont understand the prompt classic rave, it gives you more often then not opera symponic musical orchestral or metal opera over 50 gens it gave me 1 rave song and it was noise rave not cklassic rave so if u ever wanna go for some weird go of musical opera symponic fusion try classical rave, geniune odd 1

[charred merlin]

You cannot create a song on the Discord anymore, and need to use the website listed above 🙏

[sleek zinc]

Ah k but where is the button to create the music?

[limpid badge]

Reddit for example. And also it was a recommendation from one experienced dude from here

[vestal rapids]

I can't read that @stiff sable as it's an image sorry

[stiff sable]

sorry that was a complete oversight, i'll copy and paste it instead, two secs! :)

[charred merlin]

Click "create" on the navigation bar, then after entering your song information, you click create at the bottom 🙂

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1151542418991239168 videos here to help show you how 🙏

[sleek zinc]

Thanks!

[charred merlin]

"very experienced" might be in terms of time spent on suno, but it doesn't sound like they're very informed about the strengths and limitations of Suno.

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1252789683176345641 reusable voices is one of the most highly rated known-suggestions, but it's not something that you're able to reliably prompt.

Stuff like "[vocalist:223423515]" is just prompt noise to try to add ANY variation to the song, and doesn't seem to have a reliably consistent effect.

[stiff sable]

this is a comment on a reddit post from r/WeAretheMusicMakers about distrokid's features of someone questioning the 'Leave a Legacy' policy wording. i have vetted the account and can see it matches the claims from the user about who they are. hopefully you are able to have the attachment text read as i will likely be spamming the chat with lots of text otherwise! @vestal rapids @charred merlin

[vestal rapids]

thanks, my dispute was in 2019, so it's possible they fixed the policy to match the marketing

[sleek zinc]

Why I can t create more musics I did two and I can t more?

[vestal rapids]

are you on a free plan?

[sleek zinc]

Ye

[stiff sable]

yess i hope so! things were definitely a bit shadier back when, and i definitely think it would be very very shady to only leave that option for someone's actual death, so im glad they took a stance to improve their wording. 🙌 my leave a legacy has been up since november last year so hopefully i won't be needing to die any time soon 😉

[charred merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1151542418991239168 Please watch the instructional video linked in this channel to better understand the credits.

[vestal rapids]

you have run out of credits then

[sleek zinc]

How to get credits?

[charred merlin]

Each day you receive 50 credits (it will reset in 10 hours from now), otherwise you can pay to subscribe to a plan and receive a large chunk of credits each month.

[vestal rapids]

subscribe or wait until tomorrow to get 50 more credits. Make sure you understand though that the free plan gives you no rights to the music you generate

[sleek zinc]

Okey thanks how many credits I need for one song+

[charred merlin]

Clicking "create" costs 10 credits and gives 2 songs.

[sleek zinc]

Does it mean I can t record it?

[sleek zinc]

If I have 50credits u can do 5songs?

[charred merlin]

It means you do not legally own the song, Suno does. You are not allowed to use these free songs for commercial purposes.

[vestal rapids]

songs created on the free plan belong to Suno

[sleek zinc]

Alr

[charred merlin]

Each "create" gives 2 different versions. (not able to ask to make just 1)

50 credits == 5 "create" == 10 songs.

[flint haven]

Free Credits Refresh

Refreshes at 0300 UTC+0 (<t:1713236400:t> in your local time)

[charred merlin]

^ ^ Free plans get 50 credits every day, but you cannot have more than 50 at one time, so remember to use them each day, or they are "wasted".

[sleek zinc]

Oh alr thanks I though they are same songs

[charred merlin]

They are songs with very similar "imagination" behind them, but each is "imagined" a different way. Like ordering a milkshake -- you only paid to drink from the fancy glass, but they might bring out the large steel mixing cup filled with extras so you can drink both 😄

[brittle apex]

I thinking I'm done playing with layered loops for now, I have about 30 songs on the playlist of different ideas I tried. "loop pedal" and "layering loops" seem to be the strongest in the style prompt. One discovery I made by accident while doing all this is that if you put f's in a row it can sound a lot like taking a breath, see here: https://suno.com/song/05709d5c-769e-4633-9f8f-e3e708a36095

[sleek zinc]

Woah

[true night]

same when u add a-a-a-a-a or similar it gives either a instrument like sound or a brewathing movement. its funny what u can do with it
ive tried _(still do try here and there) make a song with the voices are the melodiy( instruments)

[brittle apex]

That was my goal with the layered loop testing. The one that worked the most was this one (lyrics start at ~1:20): https://suno.com/song/a7e45a6d-fab8-4429-9193-7ce310a7785c

[mystic flume]

There's a lot of posts since this and I don't want to scour them all so I'll just add a quick question. Are you aware that your monthly credits are a top off every month, and not an addition? So, if you had 4200 credits yesterday, and your subscription renews today, you'll have 10,000 credits. Not 14,200.

[true night]

i have noticed if u have acappela as a prompt it cxan work in ure favor too , just as a sidenote info

[true night]

but u managed to make 1 much more proper then me quite awesome

ive tried you song and i noticve as my own tries you gone lucky on that 1 mine few tries starts like that then just a melodi starts out of nowwere quite annoying (ofc i added my own version of a lyric. with more ooo and a-a-a ect.. still announg af. but i learned something new about the big letters actualy do better breathing then i noticed before

@brittle apex gave u a follow so i can stay tuned on the musical voice experiments u make .
i quite like to follow people that do the out of the ordinary in suno , im quite similar, also why i follow @alpine venture has he has alot of quite unique styles and stuff. made some great art works out of his stuff (inspiration and reused alot of his prompt\styles)

[alpine venture]

https://suno.com/song/c36d2304-92e1-455d-b0e6-43c3efdd21d8

this is actually kind of an interesting one, at first I ignored it

but going back by accident

it immediately stood out as having more complexity in the guitar progression for Suno on this type of heavy drum beat

[tulip kayak]

How do I get the key??

[charred merlin]

The video/script lied, no roblox key here, just a program to get AI to make music for you.

[brittle apex]

Thanks, gave you a follow as well

[true night]

this prompt is fab when it works quite geniue genius you are

and i can add so more onto it and it just makes it even more great , i did notice if you add the "melody" or "drum beats inbetween the lyric structure it gives you the vocal instruments very fitting within ( in the few gens that works as intented

[brittle apex]

Can't wait to see what you come up with

[true night]

tbh atm i just used yours and added a bit more letters that seem to work.

it started a strain of paino in part 3 but i gotta say it sorta was fitting as it copy the vocal instruments (ofc its not what we going for here) but itr was nice)

ha it started flicking fingers i liked that no idea were it came from. gotta start on from that part

[brittle apex]

I noticed that on extensions it wants to ditch the vocals and add instruments, But sometimes it works. I made this one off that earlier song and it adds instruments in, but seems to fit

https://suno.com/song/55dca5d7-33d1-4a90-911c-49df7a4c9778

[true night]

yh same can be said in longer songs ( after every 5-9 min it try all it can to change the song ( got a 2 hour song on suno , may god it changed the tracvk so many times , and the whole battle with feedback noise was an journey all in its self )

[true night]

are you iceland ?

just wobder bec of name of song

[brittle apex]

no, Falcon taught me about Hopelandic and I've been really enjoying the sound

[true night]

hopelandic Oo never heard of

i really loved that song rthat fitted so perfect with the vocal instruments

get eeriy feelings of sigurd ros their early works

[true night]

1 of the best song i heard out of suno.

[brittle apex]

You ask it to generate lyrics for a song written in Hopelandic. Then you take those lyrics and pop them into google translate from Icelandic to English and it comes up with these awesome phrases. I made this one with that process: https://suno.com/song/aea5c301-0e9a-4a00-8843-82f3b30628d6

[true night]

vocal instrument and symetry is unreal

nice 🙂

i wish 😄

[brittle apex]

yet

guess they don't want v4 to suck?

[true night]

maybe i can make it remake my songs in icelandish tbh its not as far off since my orgins ancestors spoke old norse as im norweigan.

[charred merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

r.i.p. demonoid

[safe hazel]

It's you're*

[flint haven]

✅ Warning logged for junglevines44. I couldn't DM them. || Do not ping members of the team. You will know when v4 is available as there will be an announcement in the #📢┃announcements channel.

[teal raft]

What they actually do is hide it

and we all have to go find it

[stiff sable]

as the kids these days say (i think): ijbol

[tulip kayak]

Ig cuz It said join discord and this was the vanity link

[hollow hare]

That's the thing, people can easily make mistakes. Finding the correct invite link is not hard using a search engine 👍

[wanton copper]

I want to be clear a bit: Is there a way to have the extended song replay the melody and vocal of the part before the extended? Maybe to have it as chorus?

[rose jasper]

I've just made an amazing discovery, not sure if everyone is aware of this, but on the wiki itself, there is a page with up to 100 pages describing the prompts you can use:
https://www.suno.wiki/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/PROMPTS-FOR-AI-DANCE-MUSIC-🙏mista.lewys_.pdf

[wanton copper]

But there's no prompts to guarantee that, right?

[teal raft]

Oh you woulda found that lickidly splitidly

oh they know

boy do they know

[viscid locust]

I'm gonna need a lot of goddamn refunds

The song keeps ending in like 10 seconds when I'm trying to extend it

[slim summit]

whhats the red dot?

[slim summit]

could be that at the timestamp where you decided to extend the song has a progression where the model cannot make sense of it except ending the song. have you tried varying the timestamp from which you extend the song?

[charred merlin]

Songs that you haven't directly played yet

[charred merlin]

Are you extending from silence?

[viscid locust]

I'm extending in the middle of the song's refrain

[slim summit]

can we get a hover tooltip?

[charred merlin]

Sometimes v3.5 can "get stuck" in a groove where it's CERTAIN that the best song structure is to end somewhere, or continue where you think it should end, etc.

If you're not working from an audio upload (meaning that you'd be stuck with v3.5), try swapping to v3 for an extension -- it's more versatile and able to "get unstuck".

[charred merlin]

#🚧┃suggestions-layout is a channel set up for making requests for how the website UI is laid out -- the devs occasionally browse the bugs & suggestions channels, so that's a good way to get "official eyes" on your idea 🙂

[plush flare]

good night guys. Sorry to interrupt, but i'd like to know how do i use negative prompts (e.g: no piano, no smooth vocals, etc..), if that's possible of course. Thanks in advance.

(i hope i'm in the righ channel btw, sorry if not)

[charred merlin]

100% right place to ask how best to use Suno 😄 (along with #1151542418991239168 and #1252267444773326848 for community-submitted guides)

Unfortunately Suno doesn't really recognize negatives, so "no drums" is basically the same as saying "drums, please. I insist that you include drums."

However, https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253341197917884530 is one of the most highly rated known-suggestions, if you wanted to be upvote #119, the devs can see this is still a growing request

[plush flare]

Thanks for replying, i appreciate your support and the suggestions as well. I'll take a look💙

[night jewel]

Any distributer on which we get 100 % royality by paying 3 - 5 dollar for one song ?? , distro kid do only annual subscription

[viscid locust]

Thanks for helping

[stiff sable]

are you only planning on releasing one song for the entire year? bcos otherwise, distrokid is one of the best value distributors there is - you'll get much more value from getting a whole year of uploads than just one a time which will end up costing a LOT by just a few songs

[night jewel]

For know i have plan to start with 2 song, I'M doing this in passion , not full time job, but yeah pieces i wrote and output is ✨✨

This may not sound good without suno background music ✨ , they guys are really cool, give me what i want 🐱

This bgm start from 40 - 50 bucks , a guy asking me to give 30% royality just for bgm 💀

[ocean jetty]

Most DSPs are Subscription. HOWEVER you can sign up for Distrokid, don't BUY any plan. Within 3 days they will send 2 emails, wait for the second one, you can get 35-40% off. @night jewel

[leaden lark]

I’ve heard mixed result about distrokid

[night jewel]

Yeah i heard something like people are also releasing music for free by doing some work for distro kid

[ocean jetty]

What have you heard?

[stiff sable]

you may be able to make use of jumpstr perhaps, which is free to upload to! ive had good experience with them on one of my side projects and a fellow suno user has shared their feedback on it here: #🗣️┃chill-chat message
its very barebones and simple - upload only, it doesnt include any "tools" or "label"-like marketing or guidance, but it sounds like you just need a simple distributor for the moment.

[night jewel]

How much time did they take after you upload everything from your side ?

[leaden lark]

People losing their songs randomly and not getting their money, mixed results either customer service etc. but I don’t use distrokid, this is all from what I’ve read from others

[stiff sable]

a couple of days, definitely less than a week to approve. it then usually takes a couple more days to appear on streaming (spotify is usually quickest) so i usually recommend uploading at least 2-4 weeks im advance of your release date to ensure its all smooth-sailing. the suno user i linked says they got their release approved in ~4 hours!

[night jewel]

Ok just in hours that sound amazing

[night jewel]

Cool

Upload for free and keep 100 % royality 💀

[stiff sable]

i moved away from distrokid as they kept giving me warnings about botted streams even tho my spotify for artists data looked completely as expected!! i switched to a different distro and have never had any issues with that again (or with any of my other side projects i already used different distributors with). defo wasnt happy with how much of a controlfreak they were, it felt like i was being sent to time out each week for a different song 🫨

[leaden lark]

And that’s why I don’t use distro

[ocean jetty]

Spotify has recently been working all DSPs to remove tracks when bands/artists are buying artificial plays/Bot plays / SEM Panels. CD Baby, Tunecore, and DITTO has also jumped on board of removing tracks when the fake plays are detected. They notify you 3 times prior to removing. It's simple, don't buy plays, create content toward your music, make your story, and build a music brand - You can't fake it, to make it.

[leaden lark]

I don’t bot, but that makes sense

[night jewel]

@stiff sable ?

[ocean jetty]

It's a majar problem, has been since SoundCloud, buying fake plays is not an investment.

[stiff sable]

botted plays seem like an awful investment, youre not making the money back, no real people are going to see the music or care about the stream numbers anyway, and its not going to carry to your other songs bcos the streams arent real meaning ... you have to buy them all over again

[ocean jetty]

I have never had a problem with them unless the artist was buying plays, or unofficial playlists. Which DSP do you recommand?

[stiff sable]

correct! this is why their actual distribution takes a bit longer than more "premium" platforms. afaik distribution is technically free, the premium services just charge you in the first place for the convenience of using them and all their tools. it looks almost too good to be true bcos of how other ones operate but i havent had any issues with it. i just wouldnt use it for anything fully "serious" that youre looking to scale up

[stiff sable]

i currently use UnitedMasters. LANDR seem very good and their communication is VERY good but they have a few strange rules (eg theyre extremely strict on what can be in your cover art) which can prevent you from being as expressive or detailed as you want. they'd be a good investment if you feel you would make use of their huge suite of other tools too tho!

[night jewel]

I uploaded my release on United masters its been two week still didn't get any reply

[stiff sable]

i was originally going to distribute with landr until they told me off for my artwork which is a shame bcos i like intricately detailing my artwork even if no one else cares 🤪

[stiff sable]

im assuming you used their free plan? ive heard it can take 4-6 weeks sometimes

[ocean jetty]

What was the issue of the cover art?

[stiff sable]

the pro plan is within 24 hours for UM 🔥

[night jewel]

Ok

[stiff sable]

the main kicker is the text on the cover has to be very simple and legible, and can only contain the title and main artist exactly as its written. they told me off for trying to add the featured artist, or in one case the track duration. couldnt use a "cassette" style of cover bcos it could be "misleading" and writing the text as a cassette label wasnt "legible enough"

which all seem like non-problems to me

it probably wont affect most ppl

but sometimes i like adding little details like that

and i just prefer the freedom to do so; no other distributor i have found will analyse the artwork as such

[ocean jetty]

Wow, never had any issues, as long it's 3000 x 3000 Pixels - I have had 0 issues.

[stiff sable]

yeah thats the size i use too. im known to be pretty cursed when it comes to my luck online 😝

[ocean jetty]

Hahaha it can happen

[leaden lark]

I mean I had this denied initially, and just had to add my name to it for it to get approved

[ocean jetty]

With a DSP? Which DSP?

[stiff sable]

do you know would they let you have just an image-based cover or demand it has both title and artist?

sorry i get very nosy when it comes to things like this and become a questions machine

[leaden lark]

I use SoundCloud actually but like to make on Suno for fun

[leaden lark]

I’ve had stuff approved with no text before

[ocean jetty]

So SoundCloud denied the single artwork?

[leaden lark]

For the image above, it’s because I didn’t have my artist name on it

[stiff sable]

i'm personally just all for a distributor that lets me have as much creative freedom and expression as possible really. i'd rather pay £10 extra per year for somewhere i can have that choice (even if it doesnt apply to every release i make) than somewhere cheaper but more restricted. i have heard good things mostly about soundcloud distribution tho so im glad its working well for you!! 🙌

[leaden lark]

Like this got approved and had no text

[ocean jetty]

Really? I haven't uploaded an image with an artist name on it in a long time, so odd they would do that

[stiff sable]

unitedmasters is nice for me, i just wish they didnt immediately blast how many streams ive got recently at me every time i log in 🤪

[stiff sable]

there's the fox again ;)

[ocean jetty]

Don't worry about that, don't worry about streams, build fans

[ocean jetty]

I rather have 5 fans than 50 strewams

streans*

[leaden lark]

My Spotify has basically no one streaming, but that’s fine, I just need to work on it and promote it and i agree with your statement

[stiff sable]

yes i agree! im working on that this year! i took a mega break off doing a lot of planning + personal stuff earlier this year and im ready to start going again soon! going to be doing a lot more organic marketing + targeted promo and hopefully build an email list of fans out of it than just "someone who added to my stream count from a playlist" 🙌

[ocean jetty]

Content is everything, be personal, tell your story, be real, even 2-3 posts a week on IG and FB, Youtube every 1 to 2 weeks, for 6 months. Stay Consistent

[stiff sable]

the only problem with taking a long break is now ive got a spreadsheet of about 210 song concepts (... yes, concept ideas) so uhmmm.... ive got a lot to get through (send help) 🫨

[leaden lark]

Consistency is my issue, I don’t use FB or IG (though I used to use FB more for games), but since I have no power rn, kinda hard to get myself out there more

[stiff sable]

this ^
definitely will be taking this on board myself too 💪

[leaden lark]

Let’s all band together and build our supportive communities and each other

[ocean jetty]

@leaden lark @stiff sable just use what you have, the power of music is more than sounds and lyrics. It's the story behind it, the reason of writing it. Let that out. People will relate, those that do, well those we call fans.

[leaden lark]

I was thinking of using my own music for streams

[stiff sable]

thats more handy to hear than i wouldve realised - ty for those words! i hope your own journey is going well wherever you are as well

[leaden lark]

I love all this supportive and caring vibes going on rn

[stiff sable]

i did sit down a couple of weeks ago and plan a spreadsheet of short form ideas for tiktok/reels (which i despise btw 🤣 ). spent 5 hours straight filming content so i have stories to show for the next couple of months but hopefully i wont be doing that again for a while 💀. actually starting things is the absolute worst for me

[leaden lark]

I need to make more content in general

Hey harber :)

[stiff sable]

there's a lot more types of content than it initially seems so im sure you'll find something that strikes a chord with you and your intended audience! looking through the top performing videos on these platforms in your style or niche should hopefully help you find ideas so you can see whats already working 🫶 ik a few ppl who have tried some *strange* things and got some success from it lol

[charred merlin]

They have articles insisting that you take action if you even THINK people are botting your music -- they take themselves seriously, and if it seems like you're taking advantage of them for a second they have no qualms in dropping you as a partner -- it's strict, but it's the price to pay for having amazing service at a low price.

https://support.distrokid.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013647373-What-is-Artificial-Streaming

[leaden lark]

I can completely understand the stance

[charred merlin]

I love how blunt they are

So even stuff like "I'll just listen to your playlist 24/7, and I'll do it on all of my devices" might even be enough to come across as fishy for them.

[charred merlin]

How are you doing, Chili Princess?

[stiff sable]

if my neighbour decides to buy $600 of fake streams to my music bcos he decided that he didnt like my outfit one day and it really upset him, what's the action im supposed to take? 🤔 (other than getting a stylist)

[leaden lark]

I play my own stuff all the time when I’m using Spotify, but not 24/7

[leaden lark]

Not bad, yourself? Latest is still trending apparently

[charred merlin]

1- move
2- contact the streaming service and request your music is taken off the playlist, and take proactive measures to let the platform know that botting attempts are being made against your song (this might impact income temporarily, but can save you in the long run)
3 - get a stylist

[stiff sable]

always so wise ☺️

point 3 especially

[hollow hare]

They should also add "Do not argue with people offering these services". IIRC, I think it was in one of Top Music Attorney live streams, mentioned that a botter botted the person who was arguing with them and the person obviously got banned.

Cannot recall if they managed to get unbanned because "I did not sign up for the service" and "targetted harrassment" may be met with a "Suuurree buddy, of course you didn't botted" from that particular distributor. (Pretty sure they did get unbanned eventually but had to get a lawyer involved...)

[charred merlin]

I'm not far off from that, seeing as how I always make the music that I wanted to hear in the first place -- I think as long as it's on a single device that's fine, but streaming services probably have some method of detecting when the same IP streams the same content multiple times at once (entirely baseless guess, but just seeing how fervently distrokid advises that you take actions against letting your stuff even be botted by others makes me think it's serious)

[charred merlin]

nah man, you're on fleek

[leaden lark]

I only listen on my phone or my pc depending what I’m doing

[charred merlin]

love the tech-chat crowd 🙂

You weirdos keep me calm ❤️

[leaden lark]

Man, I really could fall asleep to my music

[hollow hare]

Be sure to keep track and evidence when you do something that will bring a lot of traffic to your song. Social media posting are easy to prove and you DEFINITELY want to keep records of using advertisement companies (e.g. Google Adsense) because people do get their accounts suspended/terminated for suspected betting due to the high views that brings in.

(not sure what you can do to preemptively prevent that, perhaps talking with customer support about your plans for buying ads and getting an A-OK + noted down before buying the services?)

[stiff sable]

👆 my understanding is as long as it isnt intentionally "spamming" the song over and over like a botfarm, and using the streaming platform as you normally would, as any normal user would, it will count towards a standard and legitimate stream... i do avoid listening to my own stuff once its released tho; i'll happily listen to it up until the moment its out and then never again!... "damn it i knew i should've rerecorded that take"

[ocean jetty]

Most "Paid To Play" Services are not adding random tracks to a botted playlist. The issues is artists/bands (for example) are Purchasing $30 from "XZ" company to add their song song to their playlist. That one song gets 12000 streams from the botted playlist, not one other song a stream, no followers, and so on. Spotify Shows up front, streams, monthly followers, so artist / bands want those numbers high - which is another issue in my opinion.

[stiff sable]

yesss, i find the facebook ads manager is king for this (dabbling in more targeted ads with my music soon to build interest in ppl who actually resonate with the song rather than any random playlist on spotify). Do i understand what all the techy columns mean? ...err no. but for its proof of traffic, its solid 💡

pssst: conversion campaigns instead of traffic campaigns bcos traffic campaigns get charged in a way that DO get botted 🙁 often.

[charred merlin]

You're right that the primary focus is on trying to discourage people from using these sorts of marketing campaigns, but they even mention at the bottom of the article I linked above that you should even be pro-active if you think someone else is botting your songs.

https://support.distrokid.com/hc/en-us/articles/24036314423315-I-Received-an-Artificial-Streaming-Notice-from-Spotify-What-Should-I-Do

Even if you have a single track be removed for botting-related issues, it can mess up your DistroKid account -- I would imagine moreso in the cases where you're flippant about it, or seem to have taken steps to circumvent any responsibility.

[ocean jetty]

That's amazing, I appreciate the Bot-Checker URL - I just never had an issue with bands or artists that I have worked with that had any issues UNLESSS buying third party streams or playlisting. But good information.

[stiff sable]

i feel that spotify being very clear on stream counts + monthly listeners is a double edged sword. its great for providing clarity but some ppl (esp starting out) feel 'put down' or even ashamed by it and choose to artificially inflate their numbers to 'appear' more appealing. which comes back to bite them in the 🍑 later on

[ocean jetty]

Exactly, you don't seen Apple Streaming showig upfront stats

[ocean jetty]

If you google music marketing the top services will be the platforms that show up front stats, Spotify, YouTube, and SoundCloud

These companies use Proxies, to make fake accounts on these platforms, automation to play the tracks from a created playlist (on there account) or from the track link. Numbers are shown on the front, end money spent for numbers that are fake

[charred merlin]

I feel like such a stickler pointing these things out, because I'm pointing out such extreme edge cases, but things are changing so quickly these days that it can't hurt be overinformed when it's a "sensitive topic", and not keeping up with things can result in your content being taken down :/

[ocean jetty]

It's actually quite simple. Don't buy streams, followers, or playlist placementa. Be real on what you write,, sing. play, perform, and so on. I do also feel be careful on what one would upload from SUNO to DSPs with the NO FAKES Act being presented. This bill protects intellectual property rights to a voice and likeness and helps fight nonconsensual AI - from RIAA.

I am not a troll, just be real on what you are presenting on your creativeness. It's okay to write great lyrics, and use SUNO to present it, just be up front about that. It's a great tool for that.

[charred merlin]

I wasn't aware of that act, definite reading material for tomorrow morning 🙂

Very well put! If you're proactive, honest, and well-informed, usually you can avoid most missteps, and are better suited to handle them if they come up. I don't have enough data to back up a strong opinion, but I wonder if some of the horror stories related to DistroKid have to do cases of the users not being as thorough in the handling of their content as they could have been, or if it literally was an unexpected issue that nobody could have accounted for.

[ocean jetty]

It's such a great new technology. The data is not there, we are now paving the road of being creative. Again, maybe you write lyrics and play guitar and want SUNO to present, hell yeah, let's do that.

As long as we present it as it is, what you done to present it, what did you do to create that final content.

[leaden lark]

I mean, I had Suno finish this song for me after 16 seconds https://suno.com/song/e00f2a20-3c45-44a6-9be1-c06275361c0f this has been sitting for a very long time

This is one case where I really love this technology

[ocean jetty]

Listening now

[ocean jetty]

So how do you present this? No lyics, it is a electronic track. What was your creative vibe, prompt, to create it? What emotions did you use to present this?

prompting is 100% creative in my head

[leaden lark]

It mostly started all from that beginning arp and synth sound

But I couldn’t figure out how to proceed and Suno created it for it

[ocean jetty]

Suno is good for that, so what is the end game? Are you going to add some vocals over it

[leaden lark]

And from the creation, it gives some more direction later with how I can work in it in FL

[leaden lark]

I was going to keep it instrumental

[ocean jetty]

It's a great instrumental, would you release is it on SoundClound or DSP?

It slams hard

[leaden lark]

Probably once I master it a little more off Suno

To try to get it sounding a little more professional

[ocean jetty]

It sounds quite professional now, it sounds great

[leaden lark]

More like, increase volume and improve a little more clarity

[ocean jetty]

SUNO's volume output can be louder when comparing to other commercial tracks. A small boost can happen, but what was your thoughts when prompting to make this track? Think about content you can pair with this track.

[leaden lark]

Well, I do make music as a hobby, but a lot of current stuff I was thinking could be for videos, stream bgms, etc

But for a lot of the tracks, its passion to create music and share if even if I can’t actually make what Suno produces since I’m not on that level yet

[ocean jetty]

I feel the track hold so much confidence, like "this me now now, hear me right now" with the build ups and the drop

[leaden lark]

I can hear that, most of the stuff I produce starts with some random melody I come up or midi and synth sounds that I like

[mental timber]

Hey I have a question and a quick Google search didn't yield any results, how do you make the bot sing some of the lyrics in a male voice and others a female voice? I'm aware you can do two voices at once by using ( ) but idk anything else beyond that

[hollow hare]

We have not found a conclusive way yet. Some people say using male/female using names work, other times having male or female in tags works, etc.

From my tests (https://suno.com/playlist/11ff3827-bdcf-4ef5-bd04-da8647c6cdb6), it seems like using metatags works with chances greatly increased if you do not specify a gendered voice on the style prompt (tested using that Big Mac Dreamin series)

I have not confirmed that yet with new sets of lyrics, only stuck with the BMD to see if changing genre or adding gender vocals stopped it from working.

The selected genres worked fine (except for one of the two Bluegrass ver.) And the one with the vocal set ignored the male keyword and treated the "male vocaloid vocals" as like "vocaloid style"

Also see https://www.suno.wiki/faq/style-and-lyrics/duets/

[mental timber]

Alright thanks

[fallow surge]

I can't log into the Suno website... does anyone know why?

[hollow hare]

Can you provide more information? Do you get an error from Cloudflare? Account does not exist? Etc.

[fallow surge]

I have an account with a paid plan. But it asks me to log in and when I click on the Discord button and then authorize but nothing happens.

[heady moon]

It's exactly the same for me. When I want to log in via Discord and click on authorize, nothing happens

[hollow hare]

Hmm maybe an extension is potentially blocking it? Try seeing if you can log in after disabling an extension or two, or try going in via incognito or another browser

[heady moon]

I have also just tried it on my smartphone using a different browser with the same result

[hollow hare]

Huh, curious, one moment

[heady moon]

thx!

[fallow surge]

did not work for me

[hollow hare]

After I verified I was human with that Cloudflare checkbox, it took me to the OAuth page after a few seconds

I wonder if there may be something DNS related stopping it, in which case, using a VPN might help

[fallow surge]

Okay... I don't have that. Thanks anyway.

[heady moon]

So I have VPN activated. After I have chosen to log in via Discord, I am asked for authorization from Discord. When I press the Authorize button, nothing happens. Of course, this could also be a problem with Discord.

I only had the query whether I was a human with the puzzle about it once, but even after that it didn't work anymore

[fallow surge]

It's a problem with Discord. I can't sign in to Midjourney right now.

Either.

Oh well... hopefully it'll work itself out for tomorrow...

[dreamy dawn]

I confirm, I'm trying to login to my account, Accept does not work neither Cancel

but I see I'm not the only one with this problem so i'm not too worried but I was working on my soundtrack this is a bit frustrating, but this is how it goes I guess

[jade mist]

Does anyone have a demo of what V4 is capable? It would be interesting to hear. It's been 2,5 months since a minor model update, 3.5, was released.

[leaden lark]

no news yet

[mystic flume]

Wow, has it been that long already?? Time flies when you're absorbed in your art I suppose.

[stiff sable]

hopefully v4 will be a major step in the right direction with lots of new features, so the patience will be worth it! 🤞

[twilit raft]

Please fix the bug. I generate songs in Ukrainian. There are many words in Ukrainian that are similar to Russian, but they are read differently. The program does not understand that the entire text is written in Ukrainian. If the first words are similar to Russian, it reads them incorrectly.

[charred merlin]

Hey @twilit raft!

While we can give advice and best-practices here in tech-chat, #🪲┃bugs-web is the channel set up to report bugs that you experience while using Suno. If you share your post at this link, the developers will be able to see your comments more effectively. 🙏

[lone phoenix]

/chirp

[flint haven]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[hard ruin]

SUNO Has the BEST Music and same time they have the WORST Stems in the world.

This is so annoying burning credits to achieve acapellas

Can't belive UDIO Providing entire stem separation and SUNO can't

[hollow hare]

Tbh, it is a misnomer. It really should be labeled as Vocal Split rather than Get Stems. But you can use third party tools for better separations like BandLab, Ultimate Vocal Remover, RipX DAW Pro, etc.

I haven't used Udio for a LONG time so I cannot say how their stem compares 🤷

If you are wonder why this is not easily done, it is because most Music AIs do not render the song with distinct stems, instead it is just one single mastered track and they learn the pattern of how the final products sound, thus generating a final product.

I think someone mentioned there is an AI out there currently that were trained up from stems which provides stem output. Can't recall the name but apparently still needs work

[hollow hare]

Try "a cappella" as the style, there is a difference (see Harber's test playlist of acapella vs. a cappella at https://suno.com/playlist/3dd7bdf0-5f6f-4ee7-adb0-8f42d9cb8b01)

I personally like making fusions, many of them tested with "a cappella [melody/rhythm]" combined with other styles as the rhythm/melody. You can see some of these at https://suno.com/playlist/d83502d8-c487-4c95-82cc-412bc2823288

[charred merlin]

I think I mentioned it in the description of the playlist, but a cappella gives more of the traditional vocal-only harmonies, while the anglicized acapella seems to be less strongly weighted, or incorporates instruments under the traditional vocal harmonies

[wintry saddle]

and with v 3.5 a-cappella is also worth a shot, but Harbers tests showed for sure a cappella was better initiially.

[sacred bramble]

Has Suno been testing model improvements? In the last few days, I felt that most of the problems (repeated verses, infinite ending, etc.) had been reduced in a very significant way, but today the problems returned... Did anyone else feel the same?

[charred merlin]

imho, lyrics repeating /skipping & v3.5's quirks are moderately well known, and seem to be persistent enough that we're able to get a foothold and learn to work with them.

As a rule of thumb, public-facing changes to the model are announced when the model number updates. While there's been a single instance of the devs commenting publicly about trying to address a problem people were experiencing, I think that any differences in output should be attributed to either the differences in your input, or just another example of the randomness and variety inherent in Suno without effective use of prompting or a coherent musical context for an extension to "hook onto".

That said, if you feel like you're really struggling to get something to work, let us know here in tech-chat and we can see if our collective noggin-power can do anything 🙂 💪

Hey @simple osprey,

We don't know anything about v4 aside from the idea that it might include a feature like "in-painting" that would let us try to "regenerate" a section of a song.

In the meantime, for looping, the comment & offer I made to Matheus also applies to yourself 🙂
In terms of ending a song, check out the sections on ending songs & "Terminator Extensions" in my pool party > #1256301881966198805

Fair enough -- Suno is getting more intuitive with each release, so one would assume the trend will continue.

For the record, your video is encouraging others to break ToS by using Audio Upload segments that you don't own exclusively own 100% of the rights to.

[vestal rapids]

how do you know it is public domain?

royalty free does not mean public domain

[hollow hare]

Royalty free means you do not have to pay them but that does not mean you can own or use it without permission

[vestal rapids]

royalty free means the creator will not collect royalties from you for the sound's usage, but they still own the copyright

[sacred bramble]

I've already learned how to "bypass" most of these issues with the help of the community. I was just curious to know if anyone else had felt any difference.

[charred merlin]

Public Domain means everyone owns it.

Suno is asking if you exclusively own it.

I'm also not a lawyer and may be misinterpreting the ToS. I advise you to read the ToS yourself and come to your own conclusion. Reach out to [e-mail] if you clarifications you'd like made.

[vestal rapids]

that doesn't make it public domain, the rightsholder still owns it

[hollow hare]

The alert states you need all exclusive rights so no-go

~~You need to read the licenses and/or terms of agreement for the full scope.
E.g. Using CC-0 licenses essentially gives you absolute control over the piece for both non- and commercial purposes. So you should be able to use CC-0 music in Audio Upload as you have been granted the rights* but best to confirm that with [e-mail].

Be sure to retain the license of that music piece, it's source URL, etc. in case they are ever needed

* Some people do take beats from copyright sources and make it available for "free" so be aware. I am not sure how the law would work in these type of sampling cases but pretty sure that it would be in the copyright owners favor~~

[charred merlin]

Suno isn't asking if the song is public domain though, they're asking if you own it or have exclusive control.

Either way, if you feel like you're not breaking ToS you're free to do you. 🤷‍♂️

[vestal rapids]

that's irrelevant

[charred merlin]

FFS woodhouse -- what word?

vape?

[night jewel]

hey anyone help me with jumpstr distributer

i tried to add audio but it did't taking input

[charred merlin]

god damnit you're actually senile, Woodhouse -- it's a word before it was a ex presidents name. It's a common term in card games

Just because the sample owners give you permission doesn't overpower what Suno says you're allowed to use.

Same as if using a vape is legal everywhere that a cigarette is illegal doesn't mean that a store can't still tell you that you're not allowed to vape in their store.

[hollow hare]

You should contact that distributor. It is a third party so we cannot help you with it

Oh Woodhouse...

[charred merlin]

Let's stop blaming Woodhouse for being so hypervigilant, though, He's a sweet old man and literally doesn't know what he's doing.

As much as I can't stand to look at him right now.

You own that recording. 100% exclusive rights to THAT recording.

[sacred bramble]

I hope DEVs focus on fixing these bugs instead of implementing new features.

[charred merlin]

#💡┃suggestions-web if you have ideas for what you want to see in upcoming models! 😄 💪

[vestal rapids]

can someone help me with the Suno Create page? It has started putting red dots on the left of the tracks in the list, what is that for?

[hollow hare]

Unplayed tracks (I think it was implemented for people who do batch generations)

[charred merlin]

...think about that for a second. You're not recording a copy of the actual train.

[vestal rapids]

thank you

[charred merlin]

Please research the matter, perhaps on youtube, consult a copyright lawyer, we're literally unable to help you. In order to discuss technical aspects and legal distinctions, there needs to be some degree of "curricular understanding" of basic copyright laws.

We're happy to discuss the legal distinctions and technicalities between free use vs public domain vs Suno's legal prerequisites, but we're not legal experts, and our word won't hold any weight if you get taken to court or have your songs taken down.

If you really don't understand how recording the sound of a train passing through a public space differs from a publically available recording that SOMEONE ELSE MADE, I'm not sure how else to bridge this issue.

[night jewel]

bro you are cool giving good advice and i want to complaint about MRtree he was mocking me just becoz i don't know tos

and suno did great job i got rights and all just by talking to them legally

[charred merlin]

Exactly, we're not legal experts. Do your own research for your area, but we're not trying to tell you what you can and can't do -- we're trying to point out that you're technically breaking the agreement that you made with Suno, and we're trying to prevent any issues from a well-intentioned place of caring.

As an adult, you're free to do whatever you want with consequences. ❤️ I hope I didn't come across rude at any point, just trying to highlight that this is WAY too complicated of a matter for a "simple" answer. Every answer leads to 3 more questions.

[stiff sable]

@simple osprey ELI5: if you have not made the recording yourself, you do not own it. suno asks you to own your uploads. using royalty-free works grants you a license to use someone else's content, not ownership of it. ⚫ ⚪

[charred merlin]

😦 I'm sorry to hear that you felt like he was making fun of you 🫂 I know he's a very kind man at heart, but I imagine that if I was in charge with "keeping the party from getting too rowdy", I might lose patience some times.

I am not "an official member" of the Discord, but I believe that everyone 100% wants the same thing -- being able to make music, and have a good time doing so ❤️

Think back to my example about the cafe and vaping. Just because the sample owner gives you permission doesn't mean more than the permissions that other services need.

Suno is saying it NEEDS to be yours -- if multiple people use the same sample as input and use the same prompts, they could likely get the same song. Then the "ownership" chain is completely messed up.

[stiff sable]

re-read the message you ticked in the upload box that says "I own or exclusively control all rights in my content" and ask yourself if that applies to royalty-free content youve licensed

not trying to be grating, just stopping ppl from getting themselves in trouble

[charred merlin]

It sounds like you're going to use someone else's clip no matter what we say...

It doesn't matter if the owner gave you permission, that's not what Suno is asking about. But you do you, and if the account gets shut down, please let us know for future reference.

lmao, no. Not that being owned by microsoft would change ANYTHING about what I've said.

It seems like you're just trying to find ANY excuse to avoid reading the ToS?

It doesn't really feel like this back-and-forth is in good faith anymore, so I'm going to do something else. Have a good morning, dude ☕

Oh you're right, everything I said should be taken with a grain of salt -- Suno probably has different laws where you are. 😉

[unique stone]

I would expect Suno's ToS to apply regardless of where users are from.

[hollow hare]

I did a quick conversation lookup and didn't see him mocking you?

He was stating that having multiple free accounts is against the TOS, which it is btw and can get you banned from the website.

Unless you are referring to another conversation?

[neat nexus]

That's fair. Thankfully you're not required to be a legal scholar, just to abide by the terms of service. Suno says clearly that if you do not own the rights to what you wish to upload you are in violation if you upload it any way and use Suno's AI to generate with it.

This is not about law except to the point where Suno has clearly laid out its terms and you are given the option to agree to those terms before using the service. Suno is clearly within its rights to terminate your use of the service as a result. This is a clearly stated term in the terms you agreed with.

No lawyers required. Neat, huh?

[charred merlin]

@neat nexus
In lighter news, @delicate idol were listening to your Volume 5 and she asked me to try to make something similar 🙂

She's always been very supportive of the music, but beyond asking for instagram-story songs, this is the first time that she's made a "full request", so thank you for setting such a cool mood

[neat nexus]

Awesome to hear that. Thanks!

No.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069381916492562585/1267223169979256913/sunoaudiouploadtos.png?ex=66b4874b&is=66b335cb&hm=3cd78a45e1b7e0a9f4ae18b0bc672132eff1cafdf0495ee0e528821d96075030&

Do you have all rights?

[charred merlin]

control .... rights
Looks like you missed a word there.

Hey man, I'm just a regular user like you, but you've had multiple guides and now a moderator saying the exact same thing.

If you disagree, do what you feel and accept whatever consequences may come.

Just be aware that those consequences may include access to your Suno account, and access to the Suno discord depending on the moderation team's discretion.

Your questions have been answered pretty clearly with blanketed phrasing.

Using a song in a movie and bringing someone else's content into a private service are two very different use cases.

[neat nexus]

Maybe you should take ten minutes to go back and actually read those terms of services...

https://suno.com/terms

[unique stone]

I have a jar of cookies. It's my jar of cookies. I allow you to take some cookies. But I control the jar of cookies. By allowing you to have a cookie from my jar, does not mean you control the cookies. I exclusively own this jar of cookies and control access to it.

crunch crunch crunch

[charred merlin]

Do you mean using other people's content in Suno, or simply being able to license content?

To mirror your late-edit; no one is saying that licensing music for your own use is illegal.

We're just saying that Suno doesn't ask if you have licensed permission, they ask if you are the only person who owns that content.

@mint marlin he left TODAY because he got a job.

[unique stone]

Oh also, continuing the cookie analogy, Suno would require you to provide only cookies that are your own, not my cookies or anyone else's cookies.

[charred merlin]

Yeah, you own a single license, but you do not own all of the licenses.

"Exclusively Control" means that you don't own them, but the person who DOES own them has given you exclusive control. This is often the case with Wedding or Boudoir photography -- it's still technically owned by the photographer, but they might give you exclusive control over it, that way you can't take it to someone else and claim that you made it.

But when the conversation starts off with a misunderstanding of what public domain means, it's worth noting that the onus shouldn't be on the community to provide basic education, because that's the point of a curriculum -- to make sure that everyone in polite society has a basic understanding of topics so we don't waste time arguing about fundamentals.

[hollow hare]

Makes sense, with something that could be widely abused like Audio Upload where the site does not have exclusive control to the incoming source (e.g. the content of the audio, third party voices, etc.), the company wants to limit any liabilities to itself

[neat nexus]

Thankfully this is not a copyright discussion. It is a TOS discussion. The terms are really clear.

We don't care about the Pixbay license. We care about Ssuno's terms. Which are clear.

[charred merlin]

They've been granteda single license, not all rights.

If other people are able to license the same content, it goes against Suno's TOS to use as an Audio Upload. Clear and simple.

[neat nexus]

The only thing that I would be comfortable seeing uploaded under the terms of service as expressed clearly is something that was generated by a user themselves with Suno or something they played and recorded themselves. Public domain sounds do exist and royalty free sounds exist but those can cause way too many issues. Which is why the terms or service are written as they are.

[charred merlin]

You might be allowed to use it in other services depending on their TOS, and using it in a movie is an entirely different use case.

[neat nexus]

One of the reasons for being so restrictive on this matter is to avoid situations like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfp3s__PpzU

[charred merlin]

Exactly -- if people are using the same audio upload, then extending from it, it GREATLY increases the chances of similar output -- since that's the closest thing we'd have to "picking a particular seed" at the moment.

I don't disagree that you're able to license music and use it legally -- just not on Suno's platform, because they themselves decided you're only allowed to upload content that you 100% own yourself.

If you dislike that, use the licensed content on a different music generation service.

[vestal rapids]

I sell Royalty Free Music, have done so for 30 years. I still own exclusive copyright, I am just granting a license to the end user of the music to use it in their content without being required to pay me royalties.

I have lawyers handle this stuff and I have sued people who misuse the content

[charred merlin]

Like what Robert is saying, and same as the Madonna/Dead Pool thing , you can pay robert or madonna for a license to use their content elsewhere, but if the place you're trying to use that content specifies that you need to be to sole owner, it doesn't matter how much permission the owner gave you if that song is still able to be used by other people -- not a matter of whether or not anyone else is using it at the time, but whether or not it's simply available for someone else to use.

[neat nexus]

If someone extended one of your songs, would it likely end up in a situation like the one in the YouTube video I linked, where a distributor would be seeking to claim your work because something extended matched the signature of your work?

[vestal rapids]

I have content id for most of my music even early stuff, I know when people are using it on Youtube etc,. Some distributors will pick it up early in the submission process and say to the end user, sorry, show us a license to use the music or we'll reject it

If someone extended one of my songs they would hear from Studio Legal pronto https://studiolegal.com.au

[stiff sable]

you answered your own question here btw. unless you are granted 100% rights, its against the terms of use (and that bit's even written in nice plain english!)

[vestal rapids]

in Australia if you use AI to generate music then you hold copyright over that music from the moment of generation

[stiff sable]

#ad ? 😆

[neat nexus]

Context matters.

https://tenor.com/view/ill-allow-it-ken-jeong-korean-mexican-hat-gif-5187167

[vestal rapids]

not an ad, just my lawyers

[thick talon]

Hello, hope its not off topic, but today i have problem with generation its start cycling its ok 1,2 verse but after 2 chorus go back to verse 2 and then skip to random part of the song, can you help me with that?

[charred merlin]

Now you're starting to grasp the complexities of the matter -- if you use those samples in your own legally distinct piece, and reupload THAT to Suno, that's the sort of grey zone that exists, not simply getting permission to use a sample pack and uploading a sample without any edits made.

[neat nexus]

Some of this is how the v3.5 model likes to behave. Some of it can be addjusted by checking the formatting of the lines for where it happens and seeing if there is a way to adjust the text to avoid it. Do you have comas at the end of the lines?

[thick talon]

Yes, I even try to seperate parts with [ chorus, verse ...] but dont register them it happend with them or without them

[neat nexus]

Huh.

Have you tried seeing if you can resume from before this happens?

[charred merlin]

Skipping / Repeating happens most frequently when you're trying to generate the entire song in one-shot, feeding Suno the full lyrics all at once -- overloading it.

Can you share the example this is happening on?

[thick talon]

I make song 3 days before it happend like 1 - 2 times now like from 60 tries happend like 50 of them

[charred merlin]

Hard to give objective advice on subjective opinions -- perhaps the songs are getting more complicated in terms of length or tokenization?

[thick talon]

so should i try to seperate the lyrics and then extend from like 1 vese then next etc.?

[charred merlin]

If you share the song this is happening on, we can look into the matter and try to help. The only advice I have at the moment is that lyrics tend to be sung exactly as I intend if I present them in smaller groups. Perhaps verse 1 and chorus, and then extend from that.

[hollow hare]

If you have an issue with repeating verses in 3.5, please check out https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1261146873331318835

[charred merlin]

Adding structure tags like [chorus] and [verse] help Suno understand that they should sound differently, but they are not "commands" that Suno is forced to obey in order to create the song.

If it is making mistakes, it may be that you need to ask it to do slightly less in each generation and create the full song as a creation of multiple parts. The more specific of a song you have in mind, the less chance you have of getting it as a "one-shot generation"

[thick talon]

Unfortunately i already remove them, but I will try to separte them and working from that, thanks for advice

[dapper pike]

Hello everyone, i need help please if someone can help me, thank you (sorry for my lil english i'm french) 🙂

[charred merlin]

Bonjour @dapper pike!

Mon Francaise a 20 ans, so I hope English is okay ❤️ (my french is 20 years old)

What seems to be the issue?

[neat nexus]

We can't help what people think only what is made clear in the text. The text is clear.

[charred merlin]

#💡┃suggestions-web, but regardless of how people want to use the service, the service doesn't want to make themselves liable for bad-faith efforts, so you're free to use a different service.

That's a straw man argument, the issue wasn't for free train sounds.

[vestal rapids]

somebody owns those recordings

[dapper pike]

Since yesterday that I took out the subscription, for 10€, I can no longer create songs.

I do as usual, "custom", I put my lyrics, I choose the style of music.

Then when I click on "create" nothing happens 😢

[charred merlin]

That's not really a great look. 😦

The issue isn't about train sounds -- I even said it's okay to record your own train sound -- the issue comes from using SOMEONE ELSE's train sound, regardless of whether or not you have permission.

[neat nexus]

OK. This discussion is fruitless. The policy has been stated. The terms are terms of agreement. If you wish to use the service these are what you have agreed to. If you violate these terms there are consequences.

The discussion is ended. You have been made aware of the terms.

[charred merlin]

To preface, there's no "official support presence" on Discord, so the best, most effective advice we can give is to contact [e-mail] for account-related issues.

That being said, once you've shot that email off, we can try to figure things out in the meanwhile, but I want to make sure that you contact the official support channels first -- they're the only experts in the matter ❤️

It's still their office hours for another few, so I thought i might be best to be proactive 🙂

Beyond that, do you have the same issue if you try to create a song from a mobile browser? (or desktop browser if you're originally on mobile)

[dapper pike]

ok, i will send a message now ^^ and no, i havent try on phone, because, it's to small for me 😂 and i'm feel good on Desktop

[charred merlin]

😅 I would not intend for you to only use mobile -- just to see if it is an account issue, or a device issue, this way we can be better detectives together

🕵️🔎

[dapper pike]

ok i will try lol

give me a minutes :p

[charred merlin]

No hurry, no worry ❤️

[dapper pike]

the app it's just for iphone, i havent iphone lol

[charred merlin]

Sorry, I meant visiting the website from a mobile browser

Visiting Suno.com from a browser on your phone (ignore le cochon, il ne mord pas)

[dapper pike]

ok i have try, but it's same, nothing work 😵‍💫 the pig is cute btw

[charred merlin]

Bon! It might have seem like a "wasted try", but now we know that the issue is not isolated to only 1 device! Progress!

https://www.suno.com/account

If you visit this page, does it look like this, or are there any "error messages"?

[dapper pike]

all good i think

@charred merlin anyway i have send message to the support, lets see what they will answer 🙂 thank you for your help 🙂

[charred merlin]

You are very welcome! Lastly, I see that 40 credits have been used -- is there a chance that the songs are in the library, but just took some time to appear?

Either way, the support team will be able to shed some light on the matter ❤️ (I just can't help but be curious and try to solve a puzzle 😛 )

[late loom]

anyone connected Zuno to Zapier or any other connector ?

[runic ocean]

with people that have put an album made by Suno (but the lyrics are yours) onto Spotify etc with Distrokid, is there anything special you had to do before you were able to put your album on Distrokid (completely new to this process so just wanting to check with someone with experience here)

[charred merlin]

Seeing as how there isn't a publicly available API, it's not something that's really possible at the moment, afaik

[dapper pike]

thats was yesterday lol, today bug bug haha

[late loom]

Ok is there any possibility to get an API for this usecase ?

[charred merlin]

Nope! The upload form you fill out asks for all of the relevent questions -- just make sure you fill out everything as best as you can. ❤️

[runic ocean]

it talks about licenses and stuff and that confuses me

[charred merlin]

Can you be more specific?

[runic ocean]

one sec

[charred merlin]

It's not that you're not allowed to use the API, it's that there isn't an API.

You can upvote the post in the link below if you want to let the developers know that people are still interested in an API! 💪

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253766525458841610

[runic ocean]

I think it was this though I'm not 100% sure

the first one

[late loom]

ok thank you so this is all scam ? https://aimlapi.com/suno-ai-api

[charred merlin]

100% -- you risk getting your accounts shut down by using this, since the ToS says you agree to not use any methods to circumvent their intended access of the service. The scammers are probably also taking advantage of free accounts, which means any songs generated by it wouldn't be commercially licensable. Just a whole other can of worms.

[late loom]

Thank you !!!!

[neat nexus]

Yes, very much a scam.

[charred merlin]

I had the same moral quandaries when signing up / submitting -- again, I'm not a legal expert on the matter, but from my interpretation of it, while we didn't actually set up a physical microphone and press the record button on a tape deck, we're still responsible for the creation of that recording.

It might feel weird to have it say "I created this music", but in my personal opinion it's not a malicious reinterpretation, but more of an awkward illustration of the fact that the music industry will need to readdress age-old terminology.

[runic ocean]

okay, thanks!

is there any specific places you used to make album cover art btw?

[charred merlin]

My old workflow was to ask copilot.microsoft.com (I used the app) to generate images because you got 4 variations, and you could reimagine each of them with different filter types, as well as remagining the image between square and landscape modes -- so you could get an exception amount of variation across similar ideas without having to "reroll" each time.

Copilot uses the same image-gen as ChatGPT (dalle3), but ChatGPT is better at writing longer complex prompts that work better with dalle3.

Admittedly @teal raft ruined my life by introducing me to Flux, so I feel like it's gonna be hard to go back to dalle3. 👀

https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/schnell I think you get ~$2 free usage on this site before you need to start paying, so if you're conversative in your usage, you should be set for a bit until you buckle like me and decide to give them actual money.

[runic ocean]

but then do you own that art and the rights to it etc? I just wanna make sure haha

[runic ocean]

oh thanks!

fantastic

[charred merlin]

for the record, I hope that didn't come across as snarky, I'm still literally blown away that all of this is available for free without overhead

[runic ocean]

no that's fine!

holy shit tho

[charred merlin]

Like... in the early 2000s you would need to purchase something that was half the size of your TV and it would be obsolete in a year's time for the next model that cost twice as much. Sometimes they wouldn't even improve it between years, and you'd still pay twice as much because they made it smaller and you didn't need a special cabinet for wtf they were selling.

[runic ocean]

yeah

it just generated an absolute masterpiece for an album cover

like holy shit

[charred merlin]

Now things just get easier and better every week, and the companies are actively angry about having to make physical products because it slows down their technological progress.

[runic ocean]

yeah

[neat nexus]

Whoa....you can say sheet in this Discord?

[charred merlin]

Oh hell yeah

[runic ocean]

wait am I not allowed to my bad

[neat nexus]

I didn't think it was literally possible.

In general terms we have a PG-13 policy.

[runic ocean]

well I'll find out if woodhouse tells me off

[neat nexus]

But since Woodhouse has begun cleaning things up around here I didn't think he allowed that one.

[charred merlin]

Like, asking a diffusion-based image model to handle words even a few years ago was a pipe-dream, and people who didn't understand would write the entire field off because it couldn't generate text -- without realizing how easy it would be to simply add text into an existing photo without asking AI to magic it into there.

Now you can just magic up whatever the hell you want, for free.

[runic ocean]

yeah

it's really cool

[charred merlin]

I just learned that you can't say the names of presidential candidates, even if one of the names is a homonym for a better card/hand

[neat nexus]

In June of 2022 this was the state of the art.

[runic ocean]

pff

[neat nexus]

Yeah.

I never dreamed it would all move as quickly as it did. We used it as a toy.

[neat nexus]

Wow

[runic ocean]

tbh I used a AI music place before Suno that's gone now haha

it got bought out by tiktok and then poof

gone

[unique stone]

Ah yeah I remember playing with this with some friends, we were making all sorts of derpy nonsense. We all laughed at how deformed and crazy a lot of the output was...

[charred merlin]

Okay, this is what #🗣️┃chill-chat is for, sorry 😛

[neat nexus]

Yeah, my bad.

Sorry.

[stiff sable]

jukedeck by any chance?

[runic ocean]

yeah

gonna go to offtopic tho

[livid urchin]

Hello everyone, i am new here and trying out the pro level on Suno. I have a few questions that the faq doesn't seem to mention. Any experts willing to answer a few questions? Thanks in advance for anyone responding.

1. Can anything be done to improve the overall quality of the audio. Even downloading the wav gives me a bacon sizzle sound on all the different tracks I have tried.
2. I seem to be capped at 4 minutes on a track. Is this for everyone? It's fine but a couple of tracks seem to go over that so it get clipped mid song.
   I dont understand theExtend function even after reading the faq. I have tried it and it seems to replay another part of the song over again, not really adding anything unique to it and still having the issue of clipping at the end.

[charred merlin]

1- Not specifically through prompting in Suno, but you can use external editing software like AI mastering (https://www.bandlab.com/mastering) or a DAW like Audacity to use a low-filter pass / de-essing, etc to remove the sizzle.
2- v3.5 has a maximum generation length of 4 minutes, v3 has a maximum of 2 minutes -- after the songs finish processing, you'll see an "Extend" button on the website-version -- you can choose where to "continue from", whether it's from the very end of the song, or from a timestamp you choose (right before a part that isn't quite how you wanted it to sound) -- then afterward you use "Get Whole Song" on the 2nd, 3rd, etc parts to get the entire song to listen to (that step doesn't cost any credits)

[livid urchin]

ok great to know. thank you

I got adobe audtion i think i can edit it there

[charred merlin]

You're very welcome -- there's also #1252267444773326848 if you wanted community-sourced ideas on how to make songs or make best-use of the Extend features or more. 🍻

[livid urchin]

i will check it out

[fluid vault]

Is suno down?

[fluid vault]

😦

[hallow pollen]

Is Suno down for you guys??

[fluid vault]

yesm

[hallow pollen]

Yeah yeah

[charred merlin]

Give it a couple minutes 🙏

[fluid vault]

Our music is to powerful!!!

[fluid vault]

for the internet

;p

[runic ocean]

when you credit Suno with Distrokid is it Featured Artist or Additional Primary Artist?

[charred merlin]

Suno got too warm for a second -- take a quick stretch and a walk around the room and it'll likely be back up

[fluid vault]

you mean... go outside? im scared....

looks at the blazing sun ... ive never been out there before..

[hallow pollen]

Those things are outside

[hallow pollen]

Hideous little thing

[fluid vault]

yes down ATM

[fluid vault]

lots of creepy crawlies!

[hallow pollen]

The mean teethy creatures

[silk mulch]

⚰️

[fluid vault]

which ones? cuz i bite back!

[proud root]

Same in my side tooo

Is the site down?

[hallow pollen]

I think they are called humans

[fluid vault]

yes

[fluid vault]

oh yes, i bite them

[silk mulch]

The server caught on fire

[proud root]

Any idea when it will come back?

[runic ocean]

@charred merlin you helped me before so wondering if you know about this

[fluid vault]

nope, but it isnt normally down for long

[hallow pollen]

As of... For nourishment, self-defense or...

[torpid thicket]

I broke it

[proud root]

Yeah exactly

[torpid thicket]

Sorry :L

[silk mulch]

The CEO and board of directors decided to run with the money

[fluid vault]

would u hate me if i said Nourishment? >: )

[hallow pollen]

Damn, that escalated quickly

[fluid vault]

Hey if it scares other 2 legged freaks, it makes me happy! 😄

[proud root]

We used to have voice channels with the bot right here

[hallow pollen]

Lol, real wendigo like sh*t

[torpid thicket]

There needs to be voice channels :L

[proud root]

Yeah

[fluid vault]

lol

[silk mulch]

Voice channels with 11 year old squeakers all talking about Roblox

[proud root]

Actually there were voice channels before but they removed it now

[hallow pollen]

And anime sounds

[fluid vault]

And Trolls!!!

[remote ridge]

udio also down

same error

[fervent obsidian]

i only made 8 songs and it went down

[fluid vault]

what is Udio?

[proud root]

Yeah

[silk mulch]

Lyrics for Roblox using Anime sounds

[fluid vault]

we blame you then? 😄

[proud root]

Udio is same as this

[remote ridge]

like suno but better sound quality

haha

[fluid vault]

ahh copy

[proud root]

Yeah

[silk mulch]

Looks like the site is back for now

[fluid vault]

its back up!

[silk mulch]

Let us break it again

[fluid vault]

rofl

[hallow pollen]

Sorry guys

I actually made a song using 30 extends

[fervent obsidian]

i least i have 20 songs on my files because of a now gone suno accont*

[hallow pollen]

And Suno killed itself

[fervent obsidian]

its make up again i think

back*

[hallow pollen]

Yes, we used adrenaline to revive it

For now

[proud root]

Hey anyone a FRIENDS fan here?

[hallow pollen]

I wouldn't say fan... But I do enjoy watchin from time to time

[proud root]

Do you remember the smelly cat song?

[hallow pollen]

Yes

Phoebe's

[proud root]

Listen to the one I generated

It's pretty damn good

[hallow pollen]

Oh, Suno went back down again

[proud root]

Yeah

[hallow pollen]

I guess it doesn't want to live any longer after so much struggle creating 20000 songs at a time worldwide

[fluid vault]

down again

oh

lol

[hallow pollen]

Ideas for 4.0

Use more servers

[fluid vault]

Servers, Storage...

[thick halo]

Get better servers fr 🙏🙏

[final hazel]

@proud root your file an unknown file. Therefor I have to remove it.

[fluid vault]

afk

[graceful condor]

Why the site go down?

[proud root]

No no it's not unknown, I uploaded the MP3 file but it somehow didn't came with the extension

[signal escarp]

Oh... so it wasn't just me who got a 400 error clicking to another page.

[graceful condor]

Yeah

[final hazel]

And because of that we cannot allow it..

[proud root]

It's okay

[proud root]

MP3 files allowed?

[final hazel]

yes 🙂

If you upload an mp3, people can play it here. No need to download

[proud root]

Lemme see wait

Now is it playable?

[final hazel]

yes

[proud root]

Good

[tight spade]

suno down?

[wild raven]

What's up with SUNO?

[tight spade]

ok cool so its not just me

[wild raven]

Like totally died. Can't get it from any browser, phone, private browser...

[indigo basalt]

It was being slow for me yesterday, and today right before this. So, maybe it just got burnt out and decided to say f-it I'm done? 🙂

[tight spade]

or a major update? ? <<

[indigo basalt]

Ohhh! That would be awesome! 🙂

[fluid vault]

down atm

[static granite]

hope it's really that and not just dead dead.

[graceful condor]

It is

[fluid vault]

this is the 2nd time today, i am unsure if it is an update.

[small pawn]

I can access their about and blog pages, not the creator ones

[fluid vault]

Its just dowen

[indigo basalt]

Is the mobile app still functioning?

[tight spade]

bummer

[fluid vault]

I dont have an iphone

[wild raven]

OMG, that sucks so much. Can't say how much I love suno.

[fluid vault]

Give it time. shes still learning aswell as a lot of us

[wild raven]

I listen to Suno more than Spotify. It kicks ass, you all are so creative. I love finding and hearing new stuff. So I really notice when it's down and I can't even play.

[fluid vault]

Trust me im with ya

[indigo basalt]

The mobile app is still up and functioning. Just created a song off of it just now. So, I don't know.

[tight spade]

maybe ai is tired needs a break

[fluid vault]

dang we need one for android

[shy spear]

What's going on?

[indigo basalt]

I personally don't have an iphone. But I do have an Ipad.

Mini.

[fluid vault]

suno is just down

[indigo basalt]

I don't personally like iPhone because of how expensive they can be. I just like having my ipad because it's what I'm used to.

[torpid thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/error-gif-8925016

[little cargo]

is suno down?

[fluid vault]

yes

[indigo basalt]

I have an android phone, but an apple tablet.

[fluid vault]

all my products are andoird ;\

besides pc

[little cargo]

ok ... thats good.. well i mean.. it aint me

[indigo basalt]

The mobile app still functions as of now, so if you have apple you can still access mobile app.

[fluid vault]

your song creations took it down didnt they

[sharp stone]

its down, apparently since 15 min

[little cargo]

i use linux so ill have to wait

[slate trail]

I got a bad request 400

[wild raven]

Is the dominant message

[fluid vault]

its down atm

[fluid vault]

down atm

[little cargo]

that last song was fire.. i didnt realize this hot 😛

[fluid vault]

hahaha

[indigo basalt]

Same here. Just gotta wait till the higherups give the word that its back online.

[fluid vault]

its up