bacon (mod status in pins)

[misty hinge]

Hey why did you never finish that one drone mod or looks so fire

[spice elk]

requires too much time

[misty hinge]

So are you ever planning on finish it when you have time

[spice elk]

if I ever have enough free time to work on it then sure, or if something in the game/engine changes that makes it require less time

[pale coral]

In the hypothetical situation someone could want to continue it would you be willing to let them start where you left off

[misty hinge]

I don’t think this is a hypothetical question

[pale coral]

Very much is

[spice elk]

with how things are looking it's better to start over

[pale coral]

[spice elk]

it'd be faster

[quasi pendant]

Will gamemaster fx be recieving any new content soon?

[spice elk]

probably not, the only planned new content is a bigger explosion when destruction is in the game

[lilac laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/rogueone-jedha-deathstar-starwars-gif-22496066

[quasi pendant]

airstrikes 👀

Whenever I play the airraid alarm people keep saying they're gonna get carpet bombed

[spice elk]

if you hold CTRL when creating the arty shells you can pretty much spawn them as fast as you can click

[quasi pendant]

Yeah but what if you had a plane model do a fly by and drop some bombs

[spice elk]

RHS has something like this, hopefully it works in singleplayer now in addition to multiplayer

[quasi pendant]

Is it released?

[spice elk]

sure, I saw it in stable

[quasi pendant]

What is it called?

[spice elk]

RHS

[quasi pendant]

bruh

[severe olive]

RHS - Status Quo

[quasi pendant]

I have 0 understanding of RHS status quo ngl

[severe olive]

It's a 3gig mod

[quasi pendant]

So everything they made is included in it?

I might of found out thanks lol

[silent plaza]

so far i think it wrks fine in SP and MP

[spice elk]

did you fix it going when game is paused?

[silent plaza]

ah no, there is no fix for that I think. Game pause does not pause running animation i think

[spice elk]

seems to pause all my proc anims and frame events etc, player characters also dont animate

[dusk glen]

RHS Jets simply bend the rules of Virtual Physics

[spice elk]

if they have a damage manager maybe you could make them able to be shot down to cancel the strikes

[floral crow]

Could I rent a server from you?

[spice elk]

absolutely, I'll dm you

[urban fjord]

Hi mate.
Is there a reason why, when I use Serveradmin tools on Gulfcoast map, I get a Greta Tunberg moment? 🙂

[spice elk]

can you send client logs?

[urban fjord]

I can send the Script and Error logs

And Console log

[spice elk]

there are multiple executions in this console.log, did all of them experience the bug?

[urban fjord]

No the only one, was the 15:16 logs. as thats when i added the Server admin tools. and got waterworld, when I removed the server admin tools, I could run with all other mods without issues.

[spice elk]

can you try removing everything except gulfcoast islands and admin tools?

there are so many errors in the logs it's a bit hard to go through it

[spice elk]

also please remove the console.log and dm it to me next because it will leak your admin password

probably a good idea to change it now in case someone downloaded it

[urban fjord]

Already done 😉 Cheers mate

@spice elk DM

Error and Script log:

[spice elk]

check recent update

[urban fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/you-awesome-gif-13666597

[rapid birch]

I’m having an issue where GM Persistent Loadouts isn’t working in solo game master servers, I could swear that it has worked before but every time I join back into my server I lose my saved loadout. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[spice elk]

loadout is considered invalid if there is a difference in items in the game, like if I saved a shotgun then removed shotgun mod the loadout would be invalid

[rapid birch]

Yeah, that’s what I had issues with at first without knowing it would do that. But without removing any mods (or adding any) it’s still occurring. I’ve tried loading past files and everything.

[spice elk]

you are on PC correct?

[rapid birch]

I’m on Xbox

[spice elk]

I think any mods that write things to files won't work on Xbox, so you'll need a server

[rapid birch]

Gotcha

[desert crescent]

Is it known that artillery shells/barrages have no effect on AI units?

[quasi pendant]

They do

[spice elk]

well, one thing with explosive rounds in this game is that they randomly dont deal damage due to a bug in the game, I'm sure you've noticed sometimes you can dump many RPGs into a BTR and it seems like it doesn't take any damage, same bug

[desert crescent]

Yep, noticed that, thanks for the clarification

[spice elk]

if you are curious about what actually happens you can see it here, look where the explosion spawns compared to where the impact is #enfusion_engine message

[desert crescent]

I see

[spice elk]

to my knowledge it's been in the game since... the beginning

[quasi pendant]

Are they planning on fixing it?

[spice elk]

Hopefully

[pale coral]

On vehicle heavy servers this is really noticeable as sometimes you can one shot a tank while other times it requires the entire US arsenal just to injure the crew

[spice elk]

Yeah it comes up a lot, my video just shows why it's not registering the way you'd think

[quasi pendant]

dms please bacon

[severe olive]

Omg he did it

He added cluster bombs to gm FX

[ancient hill]

Video?

[severe olive]

Give me a few mins n I'll load up arma and give u one

[ancient hill]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[orchid frost]

Huh

[quasi pendant]

OMG CLUSTER BOMBS?! I gotta try this!

[quasi pendant]

You might have to work on the cluster a bit if you spawn in a good amount it can start causing lag

Needs a little optimization I think

[ancient hill]

Video?

[spice elk]

yes a lot of effects means lower performance, if you'd like higher performance consider not using a lot of effects - there's very little I can do to make the game's particle effects more efficient

[quasi pendant]

Okay

[proud leaf]

Hey do you have any plans on updating bacon materials?

[spice elk]

No, but I'm happy to send the texture over DM

[spice elk]

It's a bit rudimentary right now, might be changed a bit

For higher radius you can spawn it higher above the ground

[ancient hill]

Man you kill it with the mods…

[glass dirge]

Hell yeah, looks great

[spice elk]

It should have more bomblets but the game really hates it when I do 50 at a time

[glass dirge]

How many do DPICM bombs have? Its like 50 or 100 right?

[spice elk]

More than 16

[quasi pendant]

Yeah the game gets screwed over if they're a lot of them, I might suggest even lessening it to like 6 larger ones

[spice elk]

Generic destructible red barrels are more important anyway

[spice elk]

One thing that still needs to be figured out is syncing it so that the bomblets spawn in the same places between server and client

[wraith harness]

timer fed to warheads from script i guess?

[spice elk]

no, it's a shell that explodes into shells

[wraith harness]

[spice elk]

but I'm throwing this away because it's not synced over network and will implement the spawning of bomblets myself

[wraith harness]

a true cluster bomb? warheads instead of a spalls?

[spice elk]

as in the random angle of the bomblets is not the same between client and server so you see them blow up in different positions, so I'll implement my own spawning that is synced

since I can't trust the engine to do it for me

this approach works well enough for my shotguns because the buckshot doesn't have radius this wide

[severe olive]

Cluster bombs are gonna be so fun when we can level buildings n trees

[spice elk]

there will be bigger bombs when destruction is in

[tropic fog]

Napalm next?

[spice elk]

if you implement fire mechanics in the game sure

[tropic fog]

If i ever figure out how to do that sure

[spice elk]

it'd be pretty weak napalm if nothing catches on fire

[severe olive]

If th destruction physics allow us to set fire to things and it spread etc then he will if not it is pointless and difficult

[ancient hill]

Bombing runs?

[spice elk]

some kind of long range missile with a lot of explosives first

I'm not doing anything that looks like CAS for a while, since it'd take me a bunch of time to make it properly (like being able to shoot down the aircraft to cancel the strike)

[ancient hill]

Totally understandable

[spice elk]

actually not that time consuming tbh

[ancient hill]

Just would be cool but on your own time I understand the shooting down to cancel cause that would be dope

[quasi pendant]

Hey if you're looking for ideas what about a multiple rocket strike like from a mrls?

Or like a russian russian katyusha and then you hear it from a distance before the rockets land

[spice elk]

I'm not looking for ideas or requests no

[quasi pendant]

Okay!

[quasi pendant]

Question : How do you get the header image for the welcome message, I know you need some sort of image id or something but how do you get that and what does it look like?

[spice elk]

you can obtain the GUID of the image by right clicking it in Workbench and then clicking Copy Resource Name, and the GUID is the part with brackets {} at the beginning

[quasi pendant]

Like I want to make a custom image for the header

[quasi pendant]

Also this isn't working any idea why?

[spice elk]

invalid color, there should be no spaces

[quasi pendant]

Oop okay thanks!

[quasi pendant]

I've removed the spaces but it still doesn't seem to be working?

[spice elk]

alpha value needs to be between 0 and 255 as well, sorry I didn't notice it before

[river parcel]

Hi everyone, was wondering if there was a mod where it showed your radical on your screen like call of duty. I joined some server before it actually had this and it was really useful! If anyone knows the name of the mod on workbench it would be greatly appreciated Thank you!

[left ore]

this is not the channel for it. but I think the mod you're looking for is "squad coalition interface" or "compass on screen"

[river parcel]

thank you @left ore what is the correct channel btw

[left ore]

not really sure maybe #reforger_questions or #enf_mods_feedback ?

[river parcel]

thank you for your help!

[slender totem]

Make a nuke

It would be funny 🥺

[quasi pendant]

It would be dope but he’s not taking requests!

[slender totem]

If I ask him enough he will trust

[spice elk]

Sorry but I am not taking requests

[severe olive]

I feel like the cluster is underpowered, I might be wrong cos personally have never stood inside a cluster bomb but the survivability chance seems pretty high

Like I said tho, never personally been inside of a cluster bomb drop so wouldn't know

[spice elk]

it honestly might just be this bug #enfusion_engine message all explosives will be way more deadly once bohemia fixes this one

I will revisit this eventually and maybe make the bomblet spawns more uniform instead of random

[severe olive]

Ah fair enough, damn Bohemia broke a lot of shit recently script wise lol, keep it up tho bro your mods are class

[spice elk]

the explosives bug has been in the game since release

[grand mesa]

Thicker fog please bacon good sir

[spice elk]

ammo mod?

[quasi pendant]

Wrong person lmfao

[slender totem]

Bacon doesn’t take requests please stop

[quasi pendant]

Lmfao

[spice elk]

Game Master FX 1.0.75
- Optimized Fire effects a little
- Slightly increased radius of Huge explosion
- Added destructible ammo crates (US & USSR)
- Added damaging gas for testing (wearing modded gas masks should let you walk through it without taking damage - tested with Task Force Mattock Uniforms gas mask)

[quasi pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-fart-gas-stinky-gif-8945574110891947267

[spice elk]

fart clouds

[slender totem]

Lmao you took ma suggestion

[spice elk]

tbh the test version was in the mod way before you mentioned it

[rapid birch]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-fart-funny-goofy-minion-fart-gif-17836528

[slender totem]

I want 100000000$ or I sue

[spice elk]

I will change license of the mod so ur not allowed to use it

[rapid birch]

@spice elk do AI react to the damage by running away from the gas or do they kinda just chill and die?

[spice elk]

the latter, probably, since they don't run away from any damage

[slender totem]

Welp great minds think alike 🤓

[rapid birch]

Figured

Since when was there cluster bombs ???!

[spice elk]

a few days ago

[hidden spade]

Ok

[barren fable]

I like the destructible crates and barrel

thanks again bacon interactive studios

[misty hinge]

Where can you find the gas mask

[barren fable]

Any mod that adds a gas mask

[spice elk]

In fairness it's not guaranteed. I tested with the gas mask from TF Mattock Uniforms. It's a "secret feature".

[sleek patio]

So for now, I guess you can find the gasmask in TF Mattock Uniforms 😁

[spice elk]

be careful when firing projectiles with many submunitions at the explosive props as there is currently a bug in the game that will duplicate the explosion effect for every submunition, so when you use mods like Shrapnel and you fire a rocket at the explosive crate, it will blow up 50 times and crash your game (only in multiplayer, though, and worse with higher ping)

this bug is illustrated here when using the best shotgun in the game (KOMRAD-12) and buckshot #enfusion_engine message

[eternal yacht]

Thank you for confirming this ^

[spice elk]

I am wondering if I should perhaps remove the explosives OR make them immune to explosive damage

[quasi pendant]

Is there a way to make it so they don't explode to like bullets

but explode to like c4 for example from the better explosions mod?

[spice elk]

see #enfusion_engine message any projectiles or submunitions that hit the prop while it's being destroyed will duplicate effects

[ripe delta]

Do you think you could do the gas with effect which will only set you unconcious ?

[spice elk]

sounds interesting, but it would probably have to be immediate when you enter

I could make the gas damage resilience levels so while you don't take physical damage it will knock you out when it falls below a threshold and it only regenerates automatically, so someone would have to carry you out of the gas and then eventually you'd wake up

how is the fart cloud FPS wise on xbox?

[quasi pendant]

I'll let you know when some of my xbox guys get on

[severe olive]

It's been alright so far tbh. Haven't had many issues

[slender totem]

I’ll run through your farts when I get home and tell you

[severe olive]

Tbh uncon would be interesting instead of just dying idk up to you

[glass dirge]

Is it possible to have it cause bleeding the way DayZ gas does? The longer youre in it the worse the bleeding gets

[slender totem]

Yeah that would be the best

[real igloo]

Ran... decent, then again I did have to coat an entire village in it so maxed out system budget rapidly

[sharp dagger]

Sleepy gas

[severe olive]

The only thing that would be nice is the radius be larger that one effects, as a gamemaster if I wanted to paint a village in gas it would take all the budget and a lot of time

[ripe delta]

Yeah this would be nice I dont know what would make you wake up medical wise but if there would be an Item what medics would need to give people which fell uncon in the gas but this would probably need many things coding wise

[spice elk]

I think morphine will be enough to regen resilience so I'll test it after I sear some picanha steaks

[humble brook]

Ever thought of adding 9 bangers to your stun mod?

Also you could probably make tear gas using the same effect as the stun but use a gas cloud

[spice elk]

yes, but not gonna

[humble brook]

Oof

[spice elk]

morphine requires a physical zone to be damaged so resilience wont work, but if damaging resilience you wake up pretty fast after being carried out of the gas, and I made it so the damage is 10% once you go unconscious so you sleep for a while before dying when in the fart cloud

[severe olive]

Picanha steaks sound lovely

[ripe delta]

Thats fine👍

[spice elk]

actually I had this running while I was making dinner and the guy just kept sleeping and didnt die

it takes 6 seconds to go down, if you are efficient you can run into the gas, pick up your teammate (with the carry mod) and leave the gas cloud until it knocks you out

[severe olive]

Hows the steak

[spice elk]

perfect

[ripe delta]

Does vanilla have something like a coughing sound would be a nice indikator if you are in gas without a mask

[spice elk]

it does not but it blurs your screen every time damage is applied

I will double the radius and push the update

[tropic lava]

Would it possible to select a radius? Just as we can for the Arti Barrage

[ancient hill]

Killing the mod game bacon!!!! love it

[spice elk]

unfortunately no because I cannot update radius of the particles with the new choice, so you could size it up but the cloud particles would remain the same

[tropic lava]

Understandable, thank you

[severe olive]

Wait has this been pushed out already?

[spice elk]

a minute ago

[pale coral]

Doesn't work with equipment pack, very sadge

[spice elk]

it actually checks the name of the name of the file of the gas mask, because the item name titles can be translated to different languages so I ignore them :/

but I should try to check the item name as well as the file name

[pale coral]

It may in files just be labelled as what it is like the gp5 for example or gp7

[spice elk]

yeah that's probably why it doesn't register

[ripe delta]

If you want them to work you could ask the mod maker to change the name or make a mod with the gasmask mod as dependencie and just override the .et of the gasmask into an order named gas mask

[spice elk]

its just taking it from the file name for now, no dependencies

[ripe delta]

Yeah I just meant that he could make a mod which just changed the folder name of the equipment pack therefor he would need to set it as dependencie

[spice elk]

oh yea but maybe I can work around it by just checking the title

[ripe delta]

Ita pretty hard to register all gas mask because they will probably named differntly. What do you mesn with checking the title

[spice elk]

this is the title

[sly shoal]

Uh bacon I know u made like a zombie/monster mod in the past do u know if anyone else is making like a monster mod like that?

[spice elk]

I think so but no idea how far in they are

[sly shoal]

Oh oki do they have like a server or anything?

[ripe delta]

Ah okay

Btw bacon didnt you made some kind of drone mod once? Do you still got the model for the drone wanted to try making a mod for the dron how far have did you got with the mod?

[spice elk]

I got pretty far but the engine was discouraging enough for me to stop working on it

[ripe delta]

I can tottaly feel you xD

[severe olive]

See drones would be interesting now we have lock on missiles

Depends if u mean reaper drones or like fpv drones, but reapers with lock ons or fpv with an IED strapped to it

[spice elk]

it was a remotely controlled lil' quadcopter

[spice elk]

check with newest update?

[severe olive]

Would definitely be good for recon or strap a 2 minute C4 charge to it😂

[pale coral]

I can't until tomorrow

[severe olive]

Oooo shit another update to gmfx

[orchid frost]

Ik you don’t take requests bacon but a cool addition for the gas would be like to implement a zone circle from small to huge so like instead of spamming the single gas option we could gas a whole city 🤑

[spice elk]

I'm worried the triggers and particles may become inefficient on wide radius

[empty swallow]

A question came up today about Saved Loadouts and I was just wondering if the game mechanics would even allow this option... The saved loadouts is one per faction. I can see the files on my server(s) and I replicate (last modified) so their gear is the same everywhere. However, we have some members who have different billets.. i.e. medic, AT, etc.. could there be a save 1 and save 2 option? So they have have a primary and alt loadout? The respawn screen would give them three options.. base game, save 1, and save 2? Server will just have two files with their UID+1 \ UID+2 etc.. ? Just a theory question

[spice elk]

possibly but I don't have the time to add loadout selection to the UI

[empty swallow]

Acknowledged! Def didn't expect it. But thanks for the quick response. I just purchased the PC version myself so I'm reading \ watching how to use Arma Reforger Tools. I hope in fifty eleven months I'll make my first mod. lol TTYL sir

[spice elk]

honestly having separate buttons is the msot time consuming part to implement, since the save/load/files stuff is already in there

[spice elk]

maybe some of y'all can see if fighting the recon team from this mod is more difficult than fighting the regular AI https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/6044B70B5C778B04-TFMattockMoreAI

[slender totem]

Me and my highly trained operatives will fight them

[spice elk]

I would like to make their behavior a little less silly, like disabling the rushing behaviors but I don't have time for it

[wind steppe]

Are they all equipped with the same gear/weapons?

[spice elk]

yes, I will vary the kits if the mod works

[wind steppe]

I’ll give it a try today. I’ll place them down in various terrains and record their behavior and send it to you via DM.

[spice elk]

they behave the same way the regular AI does, but they have slightly better perception and aim

[quasi pendant]

Will you make a vanilla version?

[spice elk]

vanilla does not have suppressed weapons

[quasi pendant]

I know like a vanilla version

That doesn’t use modern gear like Cold War? Also is it compatible with CRX?

[spice elk]

I will not be making a vanilla version because there are no suppressed weapons and NVGs in vanilla, I don't know how CRX works but this mod does not modify AI behaviors at all

[quasi pendant]

Who’s the mod for?

[spice elk]

myself

[quasi pendant]

Oh do you own task force mattock?

[spice elk]

no, what do you mean?

[quasi pendant]

Like why’d you make this lol

[spice elk]

because I wanted to

I think there is merit to AI enemies utilizing suppressed weapons to make things more difficult

[quasi pendant]

Okay then, I was thinking you made it for your unit or something

[spice elk]

ohh no

[desert crescent]

Are there any AI changes or is it just that they're using suppressed weapons?

[sharp dagger]

#1110586149740748890 message

[spice elk]

I might get rid of the "rush towards the enemy and miss half the shots" behavior someday

[desert crescent]

Missed that, thank you

[severe olive]

Gas mask ai would be nice

[quasi pendant]

???

[severe olive]

Cos the new feature in gm fx with gas of you wear a gas mask your immune, so having an AI squad that wears gas masks would be kinda cool so you could have terrorists doing CQB in the gas

[spice elk]

cool indeed, great idea for a first mod

[sharp wigeon]

@spice elk could you add these?

[spice elk]

What mod are those from?

[sharp wigeon]

Expanded us army

[wind steppe]

Bacon, has GM Persistent loadouts had any reports of players reporting their loadouts being lost at random times?

Essentially, I'll save my loadout. Yes I know it's titled GM Persistant Loadouts Not Conflict Persistent Loadouts However, once we move into conflict, save our loadout, we'll run into instances after we die maybe 3 or 4 times where our loadout is no longer visible and we're only left with the options of the vanilla character loadout, then having to rekit. And even then, once we do rekit, we'll run into that same issue.

[spice elk]

no, no reports of loss of loadouts at random

if any modded equipment content is updated you risk your loadout being no longer valid, but this is not random

[wind steppe]

Gotcha

[real igloo]

I know I've had the Loadout saved but it resets to one made before the most recent save

[spice elk]

go over all server logs since your saved loadout and make sure no mods that contain gear were updated

[real igloo]

Alright

[dusk glen]

Thank you Bacon for having the server stability to allow is to go stupid on the GM Effect Bombs and RHS CAS strikes

[barren fable]

Server object budget go

[desert crescent]

RHS CAS strikes?

[pale coral]

No? Why would it be in bacons mods if it was RHS? It's bacons cluster bombs

[dusk glen]

We use both

[rapid birch]

RHS has an F-18 strike and a KH-55 cruise missile strike that you can place down, if that’s what you’re wondering about.

[desert crescent]

That is what I was wondering, had never heard of them before, thank you

[lapis pike]

What mod uses that interface?

[pale coral]

ARU

[ripe blaze]

crx already does this, guess you can still do it if you want

[lapis pike]

Thank you.

[tropic lava]

Random idea for GM FX: Butterfly mines, when placed they will disperse over a certain area. Unsuspecting players will walk over it and either maim them or kill them

[spice elk]

I did want to add a minefield generator of some sort but I want to work on the arsenal stuff first

[tropic lava]

Understandable, keep up the great work 🙌

[regal bison]

Amazing, is that block the same one thats already out?

[spice elk]

yes, I am using my block 2 as the test gun for the attachments, I separated it into a bunch of pieces

[nimble sluice]

#1196144905358168155 message I think they both kind of fulfill different needs. ARU doesn't have a preview but does allow adding items already and isn't really accessible with controller because of some UI glitches and I'm not sure if it's even still being worked on actively

[spice elk]

currently block 2 has these pieces, but there will be a few more when the mod is out

it's missing irons and I also want to add foregrips, vertical and angled

[spice elk]

I would like to add items to the thing but they are low priority as I pretty much care only about slots

but my OCD might make me do it, like it did with the character as initially I only wanted it for guns

[nimble sluice]

You've already done so much, don't overwork yourself
This is gonna be great regardless if it'll take a few weeks to become 100%

[spice elk]

it suffers from the same super slow image loading issues as the regular arsenal, nothing I can do about this but at least you can see the item names before the images load

[sleek patio]

ARU is great, no question about it, but if you do add items I don't really know why would anyone use both (lot of work for very little gain to set them up both [with mods])

[spice elk]

I think the only advantage for this project would be that hopefully nobody needs to integrate it with dependencies, if Zelik's Character is installed it picks up the slots automagically

[sleek patio]

But that's a detail that could mean a lot

A lot of people don't use ARU because they have no idea (and no will to learn) on how to add stuff

[spice elk]

right, this system does not need a dependency and custom configuration to work because everything is read from vanilla arsenal

special slots like weapon receiver can be configured to not be removable through vanilla features

right now it doesn't cost any supply to use the system so it may not be appropriate for conflict, I might add supply to it but very low priority

anyway I need to take it slow until the weekend because I'm pretty burned out rn

[winter ocean]

goddamn thats sexy as fuck man

im a very happy user of aru beta virtual arsenal for now but im excited about this one in the future !

[elder viper]

That is how I imagined a modern Arma arsenal to look like (Not being a box that you just grapple into)

[spice elk]

hope I can release it

[slow pebble]

@spice elk will this mod work on the console version of Army reforger? And when will he be available

[spice elk]

I will make sure gamepad works don't even worry, there's no release date or guarantee that it ever will be released

[slow pebble]

Okay, thanks for the answer.

[spice elk]

I'm doing it controller-first but using mouse to test is faster

[nimble sluice]

A dev saying that 🗿

[spice elk]

current integration guide has only 2 points (there are no dependencies required), it might change in the future though, and since the mod is not released yet I would suggest not changing any modded weapons

[sour elbow]

So if/when this mod comes out will this work with all other like gear mods and weapons? I’m guessin yes?

[cunning hare]

for the admin server tools mods how do i change the chat message?

i cant find the config file

[spice elk]

step 1 is are you on nitrado?

[cunning hare]

fuck no they are shit

[spice elk]

ok then the config file will be created when the server starts with the mod in the profile folder

[cunning hare]

okay ty

[spice elk]

if you look here you can see Zelik's Character slots on the character screen and there are no dependencies #1110586149740748890 message

[sour elbow]

Oh ok my b I didn’t even notice that at first

[spice elk]

theoretically all mods that add custom slots should work, but in practice there will probably be some exceptions

[nimble sluice]

Comic sans 🗿

[spice elk]

my favorite font, it's my default font in code editors

[lone frost]

Never before has so many devs cried out in pain from one sentence

[sleek patio]

Wanna bet ?

I use light theme on discord

[spice elk]

I use light theme in discord and dark theme in code editor

[strong pasture]

will this work with RHS' custom clothing attachment system as well?

[spice elk]

no clue I make no guarantees, I will ping you when I find out, there is some hope as the system is both dumb and smart at the same time - it may not care where the slot comes from as long as its a slot, which is why Zelik's Character works without dependencies

[lone frost]

Whatever powers the content creation at this point I suppose lmao

[spice elk]

comic sans does, that's the secret

[sleek patio]

Let's pretend we never saw that

[strong pasture]

Here's hoping then!

[spice elk]

don't dismiss it until you try it, there is a monospace variant online

[sleek patio]

I can use it for my next professionnal presentation but I doubt my boss would understand

[lunar pecan]

Plottwist: Arsenal mod is coming in Comic Sans font

[spice elk]

in case you think I'm not serious #enfusion_scripting message

[sleek patio]

Don't give him bad ideas !

[lone frost]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[spice elk]

I think the font's licensing wouldn't allow me to do it

but I can load an open source one that looks like it, and add a 1% chance it starts with wingdings

[lapis pike]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-now-gif-8259067036335066552

[spice elk]

but I switched to the monospaced comic sans since then

[nimble sluice]

Can't even hate you for that

[nimble sluice]

"bacon said it bangs"
"What the fuck are you talking about, get out of my bathroom stall"

[half iris]

k

[zenith cloud]

please, that'd be funny as fuck

[void hinge]

What the name of the new arsenal mod?

[nimble sluice]

I'd just die

[spice elk]

It's not out

[void hinge]

alright

[proven grail]

this is not in the workshop yet correcto ?

[spice elk]

correct, I tore down half of it yesterday to redo certain parts

[proven grail]

Ok, But awesome work anyway

[spice elk]

thanks, it has grown beyond what I originally wanted it to be

[misty hinge]

Is the cat bacon and the cartoon bacon, the same bacon

[spice elk]

yes I have yoinked this avatar from mr bonkon when 1.0 of the game came out to describe how I felt

[nimble sluice]

He no eppy

[spice elk]

I appreciated the 1.0 update but I expected a few more things out of it

[wind steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-gif-20369672

[sour elbow]

Very true but at least we know they aren’t done yet and still plan to add more

[nimble sluice]

We.
Not necessarily disappointing, just slightly lackluster considering it was the 1.0 update

[ripe blaze]

what id do you need for autoadmin in server admin tools

[spice elk]

Identity id

[north imp]

Hey Bacon idk if pings are okay so here's hoping you see this. My friend keeps telling me that you do servers, and I'm interested. My problem is that I'm not sure how to buy your service? Idk what it's called

[mighty mantle]

Usually you gotta dm him

[north imp]

Oh, isn't that like weird tho? I thought you're supposed to ask first

[mighty mantle]

🤷‍♂️

[spice elk]

just dm me man

[north imp]

Thank you

[sleek harness]

Looking for a good variety of Russian weapon mods my guys can use any suggestions?

[spice elk]

nuh uh

[ripe blaze]

what is that

[spice elk]

it's an id that is assigned to players, you can see them in server log when players join

[ripe blaze]

ok

[fallen bluff]

real

[spice elk]

smol update on BACON SUPER ARSENAL 5000, added viewing any storages so things like the alice vest displays its slots - you can't edit them though because they are "fixed" by the designer

but in practice it means that things that are configured to have slots can be interacted with

in more practical terms, if gun attachments have their own rails you should be able to slap attachments on attachments... forever, unless I cap it

there is an issue with interactable attachments that are nested though in that you cannot interact with them in inspection and an optic attached to an attachment is not usable 😦 but if this functionality is ever in the game I'll be ready

I'm hoping that this system will also let you edit the cool RHS helmet stuff

[ripe blaze]

so the alice rig blocks you from messing with the pouches? i thought you used to be able to do that when the game launched

is the functionality just completely gone?

[spice elk]

as you can see in the screenshot the slots are still there but you probably can't interact with them (for now)

[ripe blaze]

rip. still cool anyways. i like this better than aru

[slender totem]

Don’t you dare cap it

I need 20+ flashlights

[mighty mantle]

Id kiss you

[spice elk]

smooch

[nimble sluice]

I'ma drive to a neighboring European country and kiss him for us

[spice elk]

No dox pls

[spice elk]

I don't get it

[proven grail]

me too

Is it just me or are you finding it strange that it's already been 2 months since update 1.0 and since then there have only been 2 ridiculously small hotfixes and so far no announcement of a minor or major update?

[ripe blaze]

holidayyyssss

also theyll probably put something out soon™

[spice elk]

There will be an update 1 day after I release my character editor and it will break all of it

[proven grail]

yes yes sure, BUT There are a lot of things broken and nothing is even experimental, but ok, something will probably come soon

[proven grail]

probably lmfao

[ripe blaze]

so its confirmed youre gonna release it now 🥺

[spice elk]

no guarantee

[ripe blaze]

:(

[zealous jasper]

Maybe a BI dev can talk to you and help build it Into the base game so they can work around it within updates lmao

[severe olive]

Imagine

[spice elk]

I don't really need any help, I only need time

[severe olive]

I said in the reforger discussion yesterday that Devs should genuinely contact u about adding it to the base game, it's so much nicer and belongs in vanilla lmao, most of the shit bacon makes belongs in vanilla tbh

[ripe delta]

Yes Bi vould just take bacons game master fx and they would have their artillery strikes for Gm which are promised in the roadmap also the ap mines are in there and I think it would even be posible ro place these ap mines. And bacons arsenal is way better than vanilla one😄

[subtle spade]

Will it work on console?

[severe olive]

Yeah

He just tests it with the mouse in the clips we get because it's quicker to showcase.

[mighty mantle]

@spice elk leaning tower of peqa

[spice elk]

nice

@wraith harness

[wraith harness]

hmm maybe you can add small rim light?

[nimble sluice]

TikTok mod confirmed?

[spice elk]

can you give me some examples and ideas? images? videos etc?

[wraith harness]

sure, sec

[spice elk]

I don't know how I want it to look like yet, just did the functionality

[nimble sluice]

That's amazing already ngl
The two different temperatures are really useful

[wraith harness]

basically, you just put a light in the oppsosite direction from camera, so the light is facing the camera

and just from an art perspecitve, you can make it slightly blueish to add more contrast and break up the scene. but plz dont go super hard and dont mix red and blue

also as a strange but theoretically working solution, you can move your orange light a bit higher so it casts as dropdown shadow

[spice elk]

this game does not have light bouncing so it will not look good but we can try

[wraith harness]

yea, not rtx or smthing like that but it will cast a solid black shadow

[nimble sluice]

Tbh shadows are vastly counter productive since you wanna see your tactical barbie as much as possible

[wraith harness]

better then nothing

and believe me, shadows will make your tactical barby look better

[nimble sluice]

I don't want them to look good, I want to equip gear

[wraith harness]

cringe

[pale coral]

Honestly anything better then what we gave currently is a god send

[spice elk]

dynamic shadows dont work in the render target I think

[wraith harness]

oh

[spice elk]

no shadow being cast by the torso onto the bag

[wraith harness]

yeeea.....

[spice elk]

I guess maybe this is by choice so the item previews dont consume too much performance

[wraith harness]

probably

[spice elk]

maybe the meshobject it creates has shadows off, 1 min

yea I placed ground just to see and there is no shadows, it's something to do with the preview entity

guess I'll just abandon the project until this can have shadows

[nimble sluice]

Oh no

[potent venture]

Damn

[strong pasture]

just for clarity's sake, but this mod elimates the janky lag that comes with BIS arsenal, right?

[spice elk]

define lag

[strong pasture]

Like the textbook definition of it, massive delays when dragging. Sometimes resulting in the wrong item being selected. To be fair, my potato is hardly helping, but something is off given that ARU manages to completely remove the jank and feels super responsive. The previews you posted seem equally smooth.

[spice elk]

oh yea it only shows you items you can use and does not do any dragging

the dragging thing is annoying, I want to drag a field dressing and it drags something else

[strong pasture]

The BIS arsenal also takes a while for items icons to load in, which isn't a problem with ARU (and hopefully your mod). But it's hard to say how much can be attributed to a buggy system or to my slow pc

[spice elk]

icons being slow are a game thing, and you will hit this problem eventually every time, this system may display more or less items in your view than the arsenal though so who knows

this is actually more of a bug in the preview functionality so eventually it will be fixed

[strong pasture]

Tbh the slow icons I can live with, but dragging stuff and then having the game select the wrong item is infuriating. This problem is exacerbated with RHS' awesome customization system. Which is why I asked if this mod will be compatible with RHS. And it makes me very happy that is indeed the case 😀

[spice elk]

with my system you at least see the text before the icon loads so it's marginally better

it will be compatible with everything that doesn't try to implement new inventory mechanics, so Zelik's Character and the RHS helmets will work with 0 dependencies

customization of things like weapon slots (optional - there is control for not allowing slots to be empty for example) is also done without dependencies

[strong pasture]

btw, Im not sure if this is in the scope of this mod (or indeed even technically feasible). But have you given any thought to adding poses fot the characters? I only ask because the lighting seems like youre adding other stuff to help with presentation

any by poses I mean functional stuff, like high ready, aiming and relaxed

[spice elk]

I wanted to give lighting a shot to take my mind off the harder work, I also want to look into other things like changing the player's identity (face, skin color) but everything that is purely eye candy is the lowest priority imaginable and I wouldn't hope for it

I want this mod to be relatively small and simple so it doesn't become a burden to maintain

[strong pasture]

Yeah, player identiy was also something I was curious about. Nice to hear it's being considered. The poses are merely for inspecting the gear, as the default 'relaxed' pose obscures the side of the body. Not so much a problem now, but as mods continue to add more customization it might become useful

[strong pasture]

unironically the most functional pose 😆

[spice elk]

now that I have editing of gear and weapon slots I need to look into placing items in clothes which might be a bit time consuming

[nimble sluice]

Frfr

[spice elk]

and since I have more screen space for the UI (I plan on making a huge widget cover the center and right side of the screen it will probably be item preview lag city

[strong pasture]

Oh don't do it on my account, just thought it might be something interesting (way) down the line

[spice elk]

also categories/filters and search bars

[pale coral]

So we won't see this until shadows?

[spice elk]

yes, should give me time to actually make progress

[slender totem]

Literally unplayable

[nimble sluice]

Like I said, shadows would just negate usability and don't really add any functionality considering it's a virtual arsenal used to equip gear and viewing it in neutral lighting

[spice elk]

ok but I want them

[nimble sluice]

Understandable

[spice elk]

There also seems to be no antialiasing in the preview

[ripe blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/shadowrealm-get-out-jeansbowl-gif-25245055

[nimble sluice]

https://youtu.be/YPN0qhSyWy8?si=N_AokRMJaWMULley

[distant birch]

I'm having a problem with RIS and RHS and it makes my wheel disappear.

[spice elk]

Not related to my mod or RHS. As in not directly caused by.

GM menu disappears after you use the command menu, mods or not

Xbox just seems cursed in reforger

[distant birch]

Damn

[wraith harness]

@spice elk this results in a crash for me

[glass dirge]

AFAIK its a base game bug that can only be fixed by BI. It just so happens to crop up when using radials from some mods, but isnt actually causes by those mods

[wraith harness]

ok nvm it was physics merge checkbox, sorry for ping bacon

[slender totem]

Just have to relog

[daring wagon]

Looks like the Barret M82 fires a random amount of bullets?

[nimble sluice]

That's just shrapnel coming back 🐛

[pale coral]

That's just spall

[spice elk]

it seems like you are reporting a possible bug in my mod while having other mods installed, please always try to reproduce with zero other mods first

[daring wagon]

Alright, will try that next time 🫡

[nimble sluice]

Is anyone else experiencing issues with RIS (and a few others) where they basically always have to "reinstall" it before joining a server but it immediately cancels/fails the download?

[spice elk]

this has been an issue on xbox for like 6 months (on pc sometimes too but it's easier to fix on pc just go to addons folder and delete the mods)

[nimble sluice]

I'll try and get you a vid, it's nothing I experienced before 1.0

[spice elk]

it won't help because modders have 0 control over anything that happens before you load into the map

[nimble sluice]

Dang. :(

[finite shadow]

I am planning to download this and see how well it works alongside some of my modded content.

[spice elk]

@fresh nebula I will release a test version before a public version to gather some feedback

[severe olive]

WOOOOOOOOO

[spice elk]

maybe even today

[nimble sluice]

Poggers

[severe olive]

Your so hot, even tho it's the test version is it functional enough to put on a server?

[spice elk]

at your own risk, yes

[severe olive]

Well it's gonna be a good stress test for it, 60+ mods lmao

[spice elk]

you can do whatever you want with any mod, there are never guarantees that any mod will work on a server or anywhere else

if you want to test the mod on a server go ahead, but you should not expect it to work

[severe olive]

Yeah that's all good man, I'll test it in gamemaster first, but from what you showed it looks great so should be alright

[spice elk]

it's possible opening it in multiplayer will kick you out

[fresh nebula]

yes please

[ripe blaze]

yes please

[spice elk]

current build, this time using controller to test

[nimble sluice]

LB could be conflicting with VOIP when talking while gearing up

[spice elk]

it should not allow you to do anything outside of the menu but we'll see

[nimble sluice]

Alright. Will you even be able to talk to people around the arsenal? On second thought I'd assume you're basically phasing into another dimension so it wouldn't matter anyway

[spice elk]

no, read what I said

[nimble sluice]

I read that my assumption was correct ?

[spice elk]

it also doesn't put you into another dimension

when I release the test version I am only interested in crashes and errors for now

[real lynx]

You should have a full-time position at the BIS! It's amazing what you create!

[spice elk]

no thank you

[karmic garden]

I think bacon might be a wizard

[nimble sluice]

He very wizard

[ripe blaze]

how it look so good

[spice elk]

pls vote: should automatic camera positioning disable itself for the currently edited slot if you manually move the camera while editing the slot?

detecting which direction clothing is facing is very buggy, and the camera might position itself incorrectly when you change things like arm bands or helmet patches

ok I need to update my m4 for full compatibility (there needs to be a functional demo weapon for this), and in a few hours the test version should be out

[dusk glen]

Bacon makes me feel gay sometimes

[glass dirge]

Man this is so goddamn cool

[narrow thunder]

I'll test on my server

[spice elk]

not looking for multiplayer testing for now

[narrow thunder]

Oh okay

[spice elk]

posted, please let me know of game crashes, that's the only important thing for now (I don't want any suggestions or ideas, this test phase is crashes only)

you will find the mod in test list

[fresh nebula]

lets goo

[spice elk]

I forgot to turn off debug ui so you'll have to get 1.0.2

[severe olive]

WOOOOO

@spice elk works perfectly mate, just added it to a server of 60+ mods haven't had a crash or any issues yet but I'll keep trying to break it😂

[spice elk]

can you dm me server details? I have some ideas

[void hinge]

BTW thanks for making this mod it saves so much time

[severe olive]

Yeah np but you will be downloading mods for a while normally takes around an hour for me but I'm on console so maybe u got quicker dls

[spice elk]

chances are I already got all of them

[orchid frost]

Bacon this mod is absolutely stunning, hope arma puts this in their website news thing bc this is a game changer for weapon configuration!

[spice elk]

are you saying it didnt crash your game?

[orchid frost]

Lmao nah haven’t had a crash in a couple months, your servers are absolutely perfect lol

[spice elk]

ah if it crashes things it'll be games only not servers

[severe olive]

Bacon are you sure you didn't accidentally release the fully finished thing as the test version cos it feels that way lmao

[void hinge]

Unfinished nuke lol

[analog fox]

How can I access the loadout editor?

[severe olive]

@analog fox go up to an arsenal box, and there is now a tab called "bacon load out editor" under "open arsenal"

[analog fox]

Thanks guy

[fresh nebula]

This mod is 🔥 One of the best mods for Reforger... Good job man!

[spice elk]

Yes there are a bunch of things left to do if time allows. I was pushing to release a minimum working product today. This is why I only want crash reports for now as things will likely change given time and motivation.

[fresh nebula]

what else do you have in mind to add?

[spice elk]

I don't have public roadmaps.

[analog fox]

Does the Spotlight function do anything?

[severe olive]

Yes, hold lt and you can move the light around your character

[ripe blaze]

yeah it works. hold down the button and move around, it rotates the light

[analog fox]

Thanks, can't wait for the loadout save function

[spice elk]

the arsenal already has it, I don't remember disclosing any roadmaps that contain it

[analog fox]

Is it possible to save loadout in private game master?

[spice elk]

on xbox? no
on pc? yes, if you have a persistent loadouts mod

[analog fox]

Soo sad

[spice elk]

mods can't save files on xbox so unless this comes with the base game it might not be happening

[waxen meteor]

Bacon will you be making it so you can add ammo to ur outfits when you use ur version of the virtual Arsenal

[spice elk]

#1110586149740748890 message

[waxen meteor]

Ah Alr thank you

[oblique fjord]

Bacon good sir the weapons from Sierra golf don’t seem to show in the BLE the magazines do

[spice elk]

I did not make that mod so no idea

[oblique fjord]

However if I take a Sierra golf weapon and then go back into editor it recognises it

[oblique fjord]

Fair enough

It also seems if there’s not a weapon in the left most weapon slot you cannot navigate the menus

[spice elk]

Please read the description of the mod.

[oblique fjord]

I didn’t know if you were aware of any of these issues, I only mention it because I was under the impression you wanted to be made aware of anything bug related

[spice elk]

Thank you but like I already said in this thread and in the mod description I only need crash reports for now.

[oblique fjord]

Apologies 😁

[dusk glen]

Just tried the mod and I wanna say it is very clean and im so happy that it is controller friendly

[lunar blaze]

^

[zenith current]

Fucking top quality, you have really outdone yourself with it, hopefuly i becomes a standard across custom servers

[subtle spade]

Once again, modders doing what devs should’ve done in the first place

[pale coral]

Should honestly be the one mod on official servers by bi

[zenith current]

There are also great mods that add features the devs plan to add

[dusk glen]

Is there a certain way that mod devs can adapt their weapons to this mod?

[spice elk]

Adapt? This mod uses only vanilla features.

[dusk glen]

Like uhhhh

Should this Test Mod theoretically be compatible to most mods using RIS Laser Attachments and all that?

[spice elk]

It does the same thing you do in your inventory.

[dusk glen]

Ah okay I see

[spice elk]

#1110586149740748890 message

There are some options for controlling behavior but there's no dependency requirements. It operates on the assumption that things are vanilla compatible.

[void hinge]

What's the name of the mod in the workshop?

[ripe blaze]

you have to find the filters on the right side and go down to the bottom and enable test mods. after that just type in bacon, it will come up

[void hinge]

Thanks

[ripe blaze]

np

[void hinge]

Will keep bacon posted if it crashes 🙂

[woeful cipher]

this is really gonna be a must have mod on every server

[ripe blaze]

i just finished my custom arsenal for my unit, and this mod works perfectly with it. ♥️ you

[spice elk]

funny that when you die while being in the menu you are still customizing the corpse

[zenith cloud]

actually?

[spice elk]

It'll get fixed eventually

[zenith cloud]

k

[subtle wasp]

He'll go to heaven lookin like a mf Ranger

[zenith cloud]

that's pretty funny tho

[spice elk]

ok so it looks like it's way more stable than I expected it to

[mighty mantle]

Yes octonods

[spice elk]

I hope I have time to figure out picking up items, then it'd be complete

How is the screen edge on Xbox? Does it cut off any important part of the UI? When you have overscan enabled.

Also, I would appreciate a screenshot from someone using a 4:3 monitor (not widescreen) and a super ultrawide monitor (wider than 3440)

[nimble sluice]

That's hilarious

[nimble sluice]

Would setting my Xbox and TV to 4:3 suffice for that? Could check after work then

[spice elk]

If you are on Xbox I am more interested about the overscan

[nimble sluice]

Do you want screenshots or just feedback?

[spice elk]

if something is cut off then screenshot helps

[nimble sluice]

Gotcha

[zenith cloud]

it works more than fine on xbox

nothing is cut off, or affected in any way really. it's a very well made mod

[spice elk]

ok great

[loud sequoia]

here is on my super ultra wide monitor (5120x1440). well done, nice system btw

[spice elk]

thanks, I will need to align the menus so they stay closer to the center, long eye travel distance between menu and character results in bad UX

[severe olive]

No way first crash report

[void hinge]

Nvm too many mods

[severe olive]

I run 60+ and don't get crashes

[void hinge]

I run like nearly 90 mods minus maps

Most are weapons and equipment

[ripe delta]

How is the mod called cant find it?

[strong pasture]

You need to enable 'test mods’ in the filter

[ripe delta]

Thanks

[strong pasture]

It’s hidden by default I think.

Briefly checked it out and it everything seems to work okay Bacon. I would suggest adding zoom functionality though.

[spice elk]

Please read mod description

All feature suggestions are spam, I don't need or want them for now

[strong pasture]

Understood

[proven grail]

Ok, good mod I tested now, today I will do a mission with him and after come to a Stable feedback

[ripe blaze]

extra cdf by p34ntuz360 has a gas mask literally named "gasmask" but you still take damage from the gm FX gas. i thought that with the words gas and mask it would stop you from taking damage?

[severe olive]

Not all gas masks do it.

[ripe blaze]

i thought i remembers bacon saying if it has the words gas and mask it should keep you safe

[severe olive]

He can't exactly go through every uniform mod and program in that their specific custom gas mask tho, but if what u said is possible then fair enough

[ripe blaze]

#1050079312977596426 message

[severe olive]

Didn't know that was a thing lol fair enough

[spice elk]

Can you paste the full resource name please?

[ripe blaze]

{FB66C1EC2E5DB34C}Prefabs/Clothing/GasMask.et
is that what you mean

[spice elk]

Yeah, this one should work, I'll look into it tomorrow

[ripe blaze]

only thing i can think of is you mentioned the mattock ones going into the Zeliks eye slots, i havent tried it but i assume that one works, while this extra CDF one goes into the face slot. idk if that would make a difference

[spice elk]

hm yeah maybe just a matter of factoring in the face slot

[oblique fjord]

I love that CDF gas mask

[true lion]

will it be possible to restrict items if you have a certain role?

[zenith cloud]

gah dayum you got a bigass monitor man

dude has a tv on his desk lol

[olive lagoon]

Having an issue with the M4A1 Block 2. Whenever I add ANY of the bacon supressors the SpecterDR1-4 will not switch between the red dot and specter. This was not an issue until the most recent changes made. @spice elk

Previously I would use the pre-set M4A1 Block 2 with the m203 already attached. And a supressor/Specter worked fine on it.

[loud sequoia]

||the 49inch in my primary, i actually have 32inch 4k as my secondary||

[zenith cloud]

dude I gotta see a pic of that sometime, that's absolutely wild

[spice elk]

Roger will check tomorrow

[olive lagoon]

Thanks. I have also tested the ACOG and its doing the same thing with supressor

[spice elk]

Ok bet I think I know what it is

[loud sequoia]

||only image i had on phone right now||

[zenith cloud]

damnnnnmm

[mighty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/scorpiongamingchairp00pp00p-scorpion-gaming-chair-p00p-gif-18476497

Bro got this setup haha

[ripe blaze]

you aint got shit on my setup💸

[zenith cloud]

I have the best setup out of anyone here 💵🤑

[oblique fjord]

Nice games

[fleet grail]

Bro's got the command & control center

[proven grail]

will have a form to put itens in the example shirt, pant... inventory ?

[spice elk]

this reminds me of my archviz days

[spice elk]

updated

[spice elk]

updated

[spice elk]

I want to do it yes

[clear stone]

Is this available version 1.0.3?

[spice elk]

no

[finite shadow]

Have you decided on your end goal on the mod or just adding things you want to and things you find possible?

[spice elk]

I have no public roadmaps, I think I need to create a bot that will tell people about it

but I do want to add at least some basic way to grab items

[proven grail]

nice, I didnt find any error or crash yesterday

[proven grail]

The only "problem" I found was when, for example, we put a balaclava on the RHS helmet, it gives the option of several things instead of just the balaclava, but I think you already knew that

[spice elk]

it will work better when there are better means for me to determine what item goes where

[analog fox]

🔥🔥🔥

[ripe blaze]

♥️

[spice elk]

can you guys let me know about this UX choice? left click inventory item - duplicate, right click - remove (on xbox A add X remove)

[ripe blaze]

yeah this is probably better than having a right side menu

[spice elk]

right side menu will contain items to add from arsenal

[ripe blaze]

i dont really follow, whatever though

[spice elk]

see part of the right side menu here #1110586149740748890 message

[elder viper]

Minor thing, I'd like a way to quickly add/remove multiple items.
Like hold shift to add/remove 5 at once.
That was dearly needed in A3, maybe not that needed in reforger currently

[spice elk]

remind me after release

fancy stuff won't be in initial release, I'm going to omit supply cost and weight indicators as well

I should probably figure out how to easily sort the list

[silent plaza]

with some helmet attachments its a bit of a difficult case bacause things like balaclavas can go on the head independently directly into the helmet slot of the unit and at the same time need can go "inside the helmet" as well

[spice elk]

I am calling CanReplaceItem on the storage component so if that returns true then it is assumed the item be replaced with the option

I don't know if there is a better way. I know you override CanStoreItem but I don't know if CanReplaceItem makes use of it so it might not be factored in

CanStoreItem works great as long as the slot is empty

[silent plaza]

dunno if it would make a difference, because in essence if i recall correctly, to enable the usecase i described above we basically have the head areatype inside the helmet

[spice elk]

you can have any area anywhere but your helmet storage decides what can be equipped there

maybe I test my theory after I do basic inventory

[fallen bluff]

wtf that monitor is massive

[potent venture]

Muthafucka playing on a TV

[proven grail]

If you wanna work with professional 3D models or Edit professional big video, its necessary one

or multiple monitors

[spice elk]

finally have something to show for inventory, notice that when browsing ammo it will highlight ammunition acceptable for your equipped weapons, interface is work in progress

[nimble sluice]

So smort

[dusk glen]

Bacon is amazing

[spice elk]

I personally ran into issues finding working ammo for a gun I picked up so many times

[nimble sluice]

I can see that happening, definitely very accessible for new players or non gun people

[spice elk]

yea I have no clue what all the mag names mean

[wraith harness]

dunno maybe its just me, but right part of menu feels very weird

[spice elk]

you are complaining about something that is not released yet?

[wraith harness]

Noope :) Just saying that good old a3 virtual arsenal design looks more userfriendly

[spice elk]

no trolling pls, I said the interface is work in progress

[wraith harness]

no trolling for sure, just coulndt imagine making a new interface in AR and then scrapping it, isnt it waaay too time consuming?

[nimble sluice]

The European mind just cannot comprehend
lel

[spice elk]

feel free to let me know what you think about the interface when it's released, otherwise I would appreciate less spam

[wraith harness]

copy that

[spice elk]

in a3 virtual arsenal you had item choices on the left and storage on the right?

[wraith harness]

nope, item choise on the right, and no separate storage page

[spice elk]

so it would display items you have (count) as part of the item listing?

[wraith harness]

yes

[spice elk]

ok gotcha thanks too lazy to reinstall a3

[wraith harness]

same for me

so here is a quick draft of how i remember a3 VA was looking like (in my memory)

[spice elk]

I'm worried this is not great UX because I feel like I would get lost in a list of items given it's large enough

[proven grail]

Nice Work, Congrat for the creativity

[wraith harness]

Maybe clickable tabs instead of Q / E tabs? it might imrpove user experience greately

[proven grail]

its not in the workshop yet right ?

[wraith harness]

anyways, mod is yours, so its up to you, looking really good and way more useful then vanilla arsenal

[spice elk]

I think that's better for PC users yeah, I keep using the keyboard to test and forget about it (same keys could work just with pretty tab icons)

[proven grail]

this update

ok

[nimble sluice]

I was really confused whether I was misremembering or not but this eased my mind greatly lol

[fast rapids]

I like that you also have the current inventory on the left.
In the Arma 3 UI, there wasn't really a way to get a comprehensive overview of that.

[glacial cove]

[potent venture]

I just tried this mod it's so good like it's works so smooth and jesus it's so nice not having to deal with the ass backwards arsenal box on Xbox
@spice elk you are a Saint

[spice elk]

I am flavor

despite my best efforts to avoid feedback and suggestions I now must throw away the dot categories in favor of tabs, thanks guys

[subtle spade]

For real, not having to deal with laggy arsenals is a nice change

[spice elk]

this is mostly attributed to caching in the mod - I've made it so that once you open an item category (let's say attachments for rails) it will keep the available options saved in memory for the time you are in the menu, so subsequent visits to the same types of items load faster

it "remembers" all the helmets until you exit the menu, so it will load a little faster when you visit helmet areas again

I would have made it stay in memory forever but with different arsenal boxes and factions it'd be memory leak city (if it isn't already)

[glass dirge]

This is a game changer tbh, 100% what the arsenal interface shouldve been.
amazing work

[empty swallow]

Looking forward to checking this out when I get off work. Looks amazing tho. 🍿

[desert crescent]

What was added in the GM FX update?

[sharp wigeon]

@spice elk kinda complex idea you could potentially add to your inventory mod.

Customizing clothing similar to your m4

Using the in game assets and a small amount of costume assets, you could make a modular system for all sorts of equipment.

Example 1: the in game Alice vest contains a flask, I believe this was an early version of what I ask today. If possible an interchangeable vest where you can add, remove, and change positions of pouches and more.

Example 2: Helmets, more simplistic than the last, the ability to add, remove, and edit helmets. Such as adding ammunition, cigs, art, cards, and more.

This could apply to various things and even if implemented with ONE changeable item per clothing article would change the game forever. That’s it thank you for even reading this text monster.

(And I know it would require a monster amount of scripting)

[nimble sluice]

Does it also add items that are already in the inventory to the cache so they can be duplicated quickly?

[silent plaza]

it already works like this if the asset is setup in this way. You cannot edit otherwise statically integral models

[wanton blade]

Actually, in Arma 3 everything gets preloaded the first time and then cached permenently. So this is definitely something to consider if performance is not that great atm.

And then there is also the notorious opening time of the Zeus interface that was horrible when you had many mods loaded due a lack of caching until Dedmen patched it 😅

Memory is cheap, time is not 😉

[spice elk]

This is not based on a3 virtual arsenal. I'm not caching indefinitely because the next box you open will have different items.

[wanton blade]

There are maybe up to 5 different arsenals with RHS, so my point still stands and for one player usually 1 or 2 would have to be preloaded.

[spice elk]

You can cache things as long as you want in your own loadout system 🙂

[wanton blade]

Fair enough

[sharp wigeon]

Dam…

[silent plaza]

you gotta draw the line somewhere. it becomes a nightmare for game development otherwise

[elder viper]

When checking Arma 3, better check the ACE Mod arsenal instead.
They have proper search and better sorting. (For example sorting by amount, will show you all items you actually have in inventory, at the top)

Also separate tabs for "Magazines that are compatible with weapons I already have" and "All magazines". You rarely need the latter, but when you need it you do need it

[spice elk]

ugh I forgot about UGLs, should scan equipped weapon attachments as well

[raw canopy]

Have you though about doing any other attachments for the urgis and the block IIs

[spice elk]

yes foregrips, for the underbarrel slot

[raw canopy]

Nice

Another thing for the urgis have you thought of making a 10.3in variant

[spice elk]

no, as in I'm not going to do it, probably

[raw canopy]

Oh well at least if you do the foregrips it'll be nice to have

[spice elk]

game doesn't have abilities to automatically handle handguard/barrel length swapping

I mean you can swap them to shorter but your muzzle flash will stay where it originally was, for example

[raw canopy]

i mean like have you thought of making a 10.3 model of the urgi and putting it in the mod

[spice elk]

yeah no I prefer waiting until I can make barrels swappable

[raw canopy]

Okay cool

[lunar pecan]

Maybe once suppressors are in. Should technically move any muzzle effect to the front of the suppressor

[spice elk]

sure we'll see

[real sandal]

Probably a dumb question but is there any way this could be used as a class creator once it's out?

[spice elk]

define class

[real sandal]

Like a loadout creator before you spawn in

[spice elk]

it does the same thing you do when standing in front of the arsenal box

[proven grail]

Are you thinking about something like when the player saves a load out, a UI opens where he can create 5 loadout variations and load them as if it were in Arma 3?

[spice elk]

no

[real sandal]

Out server uses a pre-built loadout system now after switching to the aas mode. I was curious if there was anyway to build a loadout before spawning in

[winter ocean]

realy lovely working mod again bacon just tested it today goddamn man 😛

i dont know what job u do but if bohemia can give u a beter the hire this man 😛

[pale coral]

@spice elk may I DM?

[fresh nebula]

When selecting guns there should be the same or similar screen as when customizing a gun imop and when you select the gun you could stay on the same screen and press X to start customizing it. I think it would make it into a better user experiance with less jumping between screens.

I think this could be better @spice elk

[severe olive]

Lmao you mfs never gonna understand the concept of no suggestions

[fresh nebula]

❓

[severe olive]

#1110586149740748890 message

#1110586149740748890 message

[fresh nebula]

Well sorry that Im not reading this thread 24/7, mby he should pin it if it bothers him that much. Well I just want the best for this mod. Also are you his judge? 😂

[wraith harness]

@spice elk can you hide slot if inappropriate item is occupying it?

As u can see optic (dovetail) slot is still visible, even though its occupied by non detachable rail, and iirc this optic slot also has no attachment type

[spice elk]

Are you asking if it's physically possible? Then yes, you can create a condition in script

[spice elk]

Maybe you should read the mod description or go over messages in this channel

[spice elk]

Unfortunately there is no option for auto moderation in our threads so my choices are either ask for the thread to be locked, deleted or ignore people (I don't want to)

[narrow thunder]

Trucker? Or camper life?

[zenith cloud]

nope

tiny ass loft bed I've had like all my life

good guess tho

[narrow thunder]

Lmao

RIP screech's back

[zenith cloud]

it's not too bad but it still does suck

like I am pretty young (14) but like I'm probably gonna have back problems when I'm in my 20s

I have dogshit posture lol

[spice elk]

shrimp mode

[ocean garnet]

Ur telling me a shrimp made these mods

[spice elk]

yes but actually I was referring to bad posture

[wraith harness]

Nope, im asking if you can add it to your mod

As i see you already detect it to display "item component is missing". Why not hide slot entirely?

Or maybe if there is a fault on our side which makes this slot displayed, let us know

[spice elk]

if you have an item it should have an inventory item component

you are welcome to hide slots with invalid items in your mods, see #1110586149740748890 message

I will happily have a discussion on this behavior after the mod releases to "stable"

[analog fox]

Did the mod receive any updates?

[spice elk]

no, hoping to push one maybe on sunday

[zenith cloud]

lmao real

[summer verge]

Mr Reforger @spice elk your an absolute goat 💪 this looks phenomenal and thanks for making sure it works for console players aswell that's something we all really appreciate

[spice elk]

thank you, have a progress update

[summer verge]

Are Bohemia going to sign the rights to this game to you 😂 amazing job mate

[spice elk]

is there an app for making svg icons, like a generator? AI powered icon maker

[snow kettle]

Fr

[formal swallow]

Idk of an AI generator but have you checked out SVG repo?

[spice elk]

thanks for the suggestion

can y'all tell me if the visual identity like face and skin color saves in the arsenal when you save loadout?

[spice elk]

@wind steppe next update will have basic inventory #1110586149740748890 message

[wraith harness]

❤️

[wind steppe]

Do you think there'd be a way to organize items by modpack/item id? Lets say you have a rolled sleeve shirt. And 5 variations of that shirt in various camouflages. Would you put it into its own category?
Poorly drawn example below: (Forgive me, it's like 5AM)

Might help with guys finding a specific style of item, then within they could locate the multiple camouflage variations.

[spice elk]

no

put your mod's items in a separate arsenal is my suggestion, then you only view items from the mod

[wind steppe]

I got you.

[wraith harness]

be big brain guy, add an action to roll sleeves or cut them

[wind steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-think-be-clever-be-smart-gif-10617231

[spice elk]

smart, reduces the amount of items in the box too

too bad I can't support custom actions without dependencies unless they are all standardized

[zealous jasper]

Stupid question but when you say standardized you mean a code implementation from Bi or a modder and everyone uses that code(mod)?

[spice elk]

yesn't

[proven grail]

Bugs we send here or in your DM ?

[spice elk]

if it's a bug in my mod just post it here

[proven grail]

ok, Only to Know

[proper bane]

bacon is your load out manager on the workshop? I Reallyt wanan test it

[spice elk]

under test mods, read the description tho

[zenith cloud]

hey bacon what's the new update on the loadout editor

[ancient hill]

Inventory

[proper bane]

bacon can you send me the json for the mod...i cant find it on workshoop pls

[mighty mantle]

Check under test

[livid ice]

Found a purpose for the AT mines

[spice elk]

uh I guess points for effort stacking them, how was your fps with this many on?

[proven grail]

I don't know if this can be considered a bug but the arsenal mod already includes all the RHS equipment, but for example my team uses another mod we made to transfer the equipment from the RHS factions to the American one then when we use the 2 mods Everything is duplicated, wouldn't it be more interesting to leave each faction with their standard equipment?

[spice elk]

loadout editor shows all items inside the arsenal box

[proven grail]

Hmm, so I'm probably the one who messed up, but for some reason he's duplicating some things

[spice elk]

no idea man

[proven grail]

I will test more

[sacred lagoon]

If you just copied the rhs configs into us arsenal, rhs includes all the vanilla equipment. You need to go through and disable anything you don't want.

[orchid frost]

Question about the loadout editor, is there a way to grab multiple items like mags or grenades in a slot or is it just one?

[spice elk]

I don't understand the question, a slot can only have one item. If you want to store items into clothes then do so in the Inventory tab.

[orchid frost]

I mean like for a primary, is there a way in the bacon loadout to get multiple maps in the edit process or just use normal arsenal for grabbing mags

[spice elk]

A magazine well of a weapon can only fit one magazine at a time. If you want to store items into clothes, use the inventory tab.

[orchid frost]

Ah gotcha

[spice elk]

It will highlight mags for your gun on the ammunition section

[spice elk]

You find it yet? I am home now can record a video for you

[ancient hill]

I did have a issue with it not showing some Arsenal items while if ya looked in the normal Arsenal they was their

[spice elk]

were they modded items? they may not have proper categories configured

[orchid frost]

@spice elk at work rn when I get home I’ll try my milsim just kept asking me about so I thought I’d ask

[ancient hill]

Yea and they showed up befor the latest update not truly sure gonna check my side again tonight to make sure and redownload stuff and get back with ya

[livid ice]

It was just myself and one other person, fps wasn’t bad with this many on. Until yah know… it blew up 😂😂

[spice elk]

blew up your fps too

[livid ice]

Surprised my series S didn’t blow up as well

[nimble sluice]

Forbidden claymore

[livid ice]

It may be funny but the first time I tried using the RHS Cruise missile it shut off my Xbox. May have been a fluke as it hasn’t happened again but I thought I lost my Xbox for a minute

Arma on series S = pain

[nimble sluice]

I can only imagine, I'm so glad I did decide to get the Series X after all, but still should've invested in a PC tbh.

[spice elk]

I wanted to make an angled grip but you can't reduce recoil with attachments yet it seems

[tawny flame]

Finally 😭

[nimble sluice]

That looks hot

[tawny flame]

How I have longed for this day

[slender totem]

Is it stable on servers?

[tawny flame]

He is showing progress

[slender totem]

I tried it the other week but yet to add it to our servers

[spice elk]

I would say not stable but you are welcome to try it anyway

finally a customizable gun tho

[ripe delta]

Where have you got the models from the attachments and the m4 did you make them yourself ?

[spice elk]

m4 is made by this guy https://www.artstation.com/bobeer

I have attachments from multiple purchased models in one mod

[nimble sluice]

Molodets Vladimir!

[spice elk]

usually all 3d gun models come with parts, like the stock is separate from the receiver etc, so I was like why not make a gun editor and separate it into pieces, and here we are now

once the foregrip can reduce recoil I'll patch it, for now it's cosmetic only

[tawny flame]

Fire

[ripe delta]

The price isnt even that expensive I thought it would be more really nice models👍

[spice elk]

no reason for me to spend time making a model if I can save so much time and support an artist at the same time

[ancient hill]

Checked again still the same thang they show up inside regular arsenal but not in bacons arsenal

[stray sparrow]

Aussie did it

[proper bane]

a Ready or Not style of loadout menu and plsy is like my dream and you're doing it ;-;

[spice elk]

he's made a weapon attachment that reduces recoil when the game has no way to do it?

[glacial cove]

[broken zodiac]

No he didn’t. He just has fixed grips that have no ability to detach. He just lowered the base recoil of the guns.

[spice elk]

Aw that kind of makes sense but makes other guns now inherently worse

[spice elk]

Is the foregrip hand position okay ish? probably best I can do for now, also need to add vertical grip

[broken zodiac]

Hand position for the AFG is just fine. A VFG would be awesome.

Will it be a like a KAC VFG or like a stubby one?

[spice elk]

which one is more popular?

in terms of military use anyway

[broken zodiac]

For conventional forces the KAC is used but stubby is beginning to be more used in conventional.

For any units that would use a BLOCK2 or 3 like you have they would most likely use a stubby one. It’s better control.

If you don’t know what I mean by stubby VFG I can’t send a pic

[spice elk]

I know they're vertical, but could you post a reference photo of the stubby and it being properly held?

[broken zodiac]

This work @spice elk ?

[spice elk]

perfect, thanks

[broken zodiac]

Np

[nimble sluice]

Definitely like in Ghost Recon, that's certain

[spice elk]

I prob cant make it go on the front of gun because hand will clip into majority of attachments

[nimble sluice]

Not even if the thumb is long on the side?

[spice elk]

then it will clip into attachments on the side

[nimble sluice]

That's a very valid point I somehow didn't think about

[vernal summit]

thats not a stubby VFG tho

[broken zodiac]

Wdym?

[vernal summit]

its barely shorter than a normal VFG

[broken zodiac]

This is literally a stubby VFG your buggin

[vernal summit]

[broken zodiac]

Like yea? What does it look extremely small to you in the other picture or sm?

[vernal summit]

I literally said it didnt look much shorter, not that it was extremely small

[broken zodiac]

Ah..I get what you saying now. It’s still a stubby even tho it’s just a bit shorter then a VFG like the KAC

[spice elk]

cute short barrel

[broken zodiac]

They have it all the way front in those pictures as they don’t have any attachments but even when some do they just wrap there thump over there PEQ or lay it next too.

It’s also fine if it’s not all the way forward. These pictures show then not being all the way forward. It’s kinda a shooter preference.

[spice elk]

it will probably need to be around where the AFG is because I can't really easily move the thumb around based on which attachment slots are used

as in I can do it, just not easily and I'd rather not bother

[vernal summit]

what I did with my rifle when I was in the army was just have my thumb on or on top of the side rail

[broken zodiac]

Like this?

[vernal summit]

like that yes

[broken zodiac]

Word

[spice elk]

yeah can't do this

are the standard army used m4s only tan or black?

[vernal summit]

yes

[spice elk]

kinda feelin like tan and black as the only choices is a bit lame but I don't want to go full csgo

[vernal summit]

you can paint them, but they basic colour is black

[spice elk]

what are like the top 5 most common styles aside from tan and black? I see purple often on pics

[vernal summit]

purple??

[spice elk]

for example optic and handguard here are purple

[vernal summit]

looks more like Ranger Green to me

[spice elk]

purple

dark pink/light purple idk

this color in general seems to be called rosy brown or a dark shade of thistle, in design terms

anyway I just want to know what are some common choices

[vernal summit]

Idk, I cant find shit about the RIS handguard

[spice elk]

sorta similar color to the urgi handguards

[regal bison]

Here's three

[spice elk]

looks like this kinda color

[loud sequoia]

DD MK18/M4A1 both full and FSP rails are considered FDE, but due to the the anotization process on the aluminium, each batch is somewhat different and purple-ish

[regal bison]

Just about to say FDE

[vernal summit]

same

[spice elk]

yea anodized aluminum is what I was looking for

[regal bison]

Fancy shmancy words

[spice elk]

is it popular? it looks cute

[regal bison]

I believe so

[vernal summit]

FDE is not unpopular

[spice elk]

it looks like the slide on the m17 pistol

[vernal summit]

M17 is Coyote Brown

[spice elk]

oh damn this reminds me I need to add customization options for most of my guns

[loud sequoia]

yeah, from what i read when i was doing my own SIG, FDE is a hard color to do in anodization, hence the different colors per batches (also something that stands true for other weapon parts that are anotized in FDE)

[spice elk]

I love the looks of your SIG, I had a lot of fun adding this pistol to the game along with creating sounds for it both suppressed and not

I love pistols man, too bad they shoot bbs in reforger

[regal bison]

Just give them all 50. Cal bullet

[spice elk]

like shadows did with the m2010?

[loud sequoia]

I love pistols man, too bad they shoot bbs in reforger
same, it is a shame indeed, especially with ballistic armor present. Not a lot better without vests either

[spice elk]

thing is I think it's not about the pistols but damage in general, I think shooting someone with vanilla vest in the back with a .50 cal from 10 feet doesn't kill them

[vernal summit]

BI moment

[spice elk]

but this needs to be overhauled in vanilla and not via mods, I don't think it's a good idea for modders to add damage boosts to their guns

[loud sequoia]

i keep saying that BI should add more bullets to vanilla, even if not use, to unify some of the base damage. Also, the current system as far as i understand is based on boolean penetration. Not secondary damage based on kinetic damage even if ballistic holds

[spice elk]

very happy with the sounds tho, I wish it dealt as much damage as it sounds like it would

[spice elk]

I agree with you on this, it would prevent modders from having to do it on their own, minimize potential discrepancies (of course assuming the modder cares, I sure as heck do)

I will send MarioE an essay on this

[spice elk]

also that red dot needs to be a bit smaller tbh (the reticle)

[loud sequoia]

i kind of already did that 🙂 a second push won't hurt

[formal swallow]

A lot of service guys like to put a camo net over it and spray paint it. Creates a cool pattern.

[tawny flame]

We should breed it with a 14.5 so we can get a 13.7

Maybe even a 12.5 with our luck

[tawny flame]

Cool until you have to scrape the paint off when turning it into the armory (I have no clue on how the military deals with the custom colored weapons)

[spice elk]

that is an interesting question, how do they handle it?

[formal swallow]

I looked it up and they use a solvent

[tawny flame]

Sweet Solvents 😌

https://tenor.com/view/kangen-water-tea-demonstration-kangen-water-tea-demo-making-tea-at-room-temperature-kangen-water-kangen-water-tea-test-kangen-water-tea-party-gif-16160174

[spice elk]

hm I may have figured out how to reduce recoil with a grip after it's attached, so maybe there is hope that they will be practical

[alpine drum]

The c clamp on it looks fine

[spice elk]

what's a c clamp

[tawny flame]

https://tenor.com/view/garand-thumb-garand-thumb-operator-2020-gif-11116049169035372320 When your hand holds the handguard of the rifle in the shape of a c.

But it’s basically the way you have it set up with your AFG2

[spice elk]

makes sense

[spice elk]

zoom in a bit closer for me

[regal bison]

ENHANCE

[alpine drum]

Its mainly used for better control but i think to get better access to pressure pads for your light and laser

[spice elk]

ah now i see it the hand looks a bit like c

[alpine drum]

But in conclusion its cool boy operator stuff

[raw canopy]

C clamp

[dusk glen]

C Clamp

[wind steppe]

Any plans to make canted sights? Or flip magnifiers? Or is that just a nightmare in terms of scripting/animation?

[spice elk]

I don't have a public roadmap, otherwise it'd be in the pins

[alpine drum]

This reforger if so what mod pack

[tawny flame]

How do I get the mod to work. I know it’s Darkgru but I can’t find it in the arsenal boxes

[dusk glen]

PLA Mod in FIA Box

[tawny flame]

Life saver

@alpine drum

[alpine drum]

Oh shit so it had clothes too

[alpine drum]

Were playing opfor

[tawny flame]

Ok

[spice elk]

I figured out that purple color it's called Stealth Shadow