enfusion_scripting

[lean moth]

I don’t see why you couldn’t hook the input action either, which would skip the polling

[red cedar]

because this code isn't related to your local client

the script get the sight comp of another character which is why my var have the m_target prefix

[lean moth]

Reading the code would help I suppose 😂

Iirc this requires .acp sound work

Separate event for your subsonic round

[red cedar]

I appreciate the answer and suggestions tho that's really helpful

[spark otter]

Anyone know where it's decided that the player needs to go into the player queue? Is that even exposed to script?

[tranquil shard]

If I'm not mistaken you get a token from BI to join a session and there are spots you they allow you to use and adjust in the server config for priority for server admins only

I don't think its a script ingame

[spark otter]

Yeah maybe its a backend thing? I was trying to look into this new bug in 1.7: when the client crashes and tries to rejoin, they now get put into a join queue until the reconnect timer runs out and then it allows the player to join again, pretty much making the reconnect component useless. It worked yesterday so this is new as of todays update.

[tranquil shard]

I'm sure there's someone smarter in the deal that can explain it better but from my understanding and again I could be wrong it's not something that can be edited, was just trying to save you some headache searching around 😆 hope you get this figured out my friend

[spark otter]

I think I may have found a link to the persistence system? IDK Im digging around a bit more. I think I need to look at what happens when a player gets disconnected.

[restive island]

Where can I see what the IEntity types are?

void OnInit(IEntity owner)
{
  string ownertype = owner.Type().ToString();
  return ownertype;

/* Types.c >> proto native external typename Type();
        Man player = g_Game.GetPlayer();
        typename type = player.Type();
        Print(type.ToString());

        >> 'Man'            <---------------- Where is this defined?
*/
}

[icy oyster]

I can help with this shoot me a dm

[craggy jolt]

Looks like some ancient script bit (or DayZ?)

Man player is where Man comes from

It would be ChimeraCharacter in Reforger

        IEntity player = GetGame().GetPlayerController().GetControlledEntity();
        typename type = player.Type();
        Print(type.ToString()); // SCR_ChimeraCharacter

[craggy jolt]

Really wish there was an option for script editor to only scroll the tabs with mousewheel rather than selecting them. Hate seeing flashing scripts when all I need is to scroll the tabs to find one I need.

[minor agate]

Old DayZ Standalone comment

[craggy jolt]

I like "Append Closing Bracket" but I hate that typing {} ends up with {}}, most other editors solve this by ignoring } right after it autocompletes the bracket, why not the Script Editor?

[pliant ingot]

I hope to see this in change log someday:
Engine

• Added: A3-like scheduler into scripts

[ocean kernel]

Engine:

• Added: Try/Catch to the engine so it doesnt crash every 3 seconds

[minor agate]

tbh what you would catch with these things do not cause crashes but only VMEs

[ocean kernel]

Idk I feel like if you wrap ural truck animations in try/catch then the whole server wont crash when there's a bug in its door animations

[minor agate]

Script Try/Catch would only catch Script VMEs

Not things coming from CPP

[ocean kernel]

Ah so it's not implemented because devs dont know c++ has try/catch

[minor agate]

I meant, Script Try Catch would only work for VMEs

not for CPP to Scripts

[ocean kernel]

Yeah I just mean the engine sorry

[red cedar]

😭😭😭😭

[dire sinew]

You can't try/catch seg faults 😅

[sweet badger]

try/crash

[restive gull]

Scripting is obviously single-threaded, but before you could lean on extensions for heavy number crunching. Now with Enfusion, are we really stuck with just HTTP/WS?

I'd have to write the computation as a standalone tool just to call it over an API? And then there's the extra overhead on top of that.

[sage meteor]

Bad usage of try/catch can also be really terrible though especially if mods start to catch stuff they shouldn't be

[ocean kernel]

Ok but I didnt mean script?

[restive island]

Why do some vehicles iterate through SCR_FuelNode.c multiple times for the same fuel tank? This looks excessive for **one **heli spawn

I get it if there's two fuel tanks, for like fuel trucks~~ and command truck.~~ actually I dont even know why command truck has >1 fuel tank, unless it uses the extra to power its spawn beacon

[restive island]

Try CTRL+TAB, you can cycle through the opened files without immediately opening them

[minor agate]

It's there but just in button form

Or SweetPotatoh's option

[craggy jolt]

Sure there are ways, its just annoying that scroll wheel switches tabs

Imagine that in the browser, its gonna be super annoying

[restive island]

i just noticed that it's backwards 😄

[minor agate]

It has started to annoy me now that you have pointed it out

[inland bronze]

Questions about weapons: they have a chamber separate from the magazine, right? Or does it pull straight from the magazine? Is there a way to force chamber a bullet through script or is it just adding to the magazine's ammo count?

[torn bane]

Chamber is separate from a magazine. You can chamber a round and detach the mag and still shoot. Yes ForceChamber or something like that was added some time ago, I think I exposed it to script too. It would be on the muzzle component

[inland bronze]

I see ClearChamber() in the BaseMuzzleComponent, but not seeing a ForceChamber() or similar. Working in 1.7 experimental as well :/

[torn bane]

Then maybe I forgot to do that. Sadly it means it will take some time until it becomes available to you. Maybe a later 1.7 patch maybe 1.8

[shut shard]

Hey everyone! I'm working on a mod for Arma Reforger using the ArmST framework and I'm trying to create a farming mechanic where a player approaches an object, holds an interaction key for a few seconds, and receives money (using ARMST_MONEY_COMPONENTS).
I've created a custom class CashAction : SCR_ScriptedUserAction with PerformAction, CanBeShownScript and CanBePerformedScript all returning true. The class compiles fine and appears in the Workbench editor.
I added it to a GenericEntity with these components:

• MeshObject
• RigidBody
• RplComponent
• ActionsManagerComponent (with UserActionContext + CashAction)
  But when I play, no prompt appears at all when approaching the object. The Remote Console shows no output from my script, meaning PerformAction is never called.

Has anyone successfully created a custom SCR_ScriptedUserAction on a GenericEntity? What am I missing for the action prompt to appear? Any working example would be hugely appreciated!

[restive island]

is it an editable entity by any chance (**E_**foo.et)?

[gloomy lynx]

canbeshown is broken

remove the canbeshown and canbeperformed, get it to work, then add them back

[restive island]

Can I use these values for unique prefab IDs? eg 0x20000000F10 {} like below

modded class SCR_FuelNode : BaseFuelNode
{    
    override void OnInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        super.OnInit(owner);    
        Print(owner.GetID().ToString());
        // returns this for vehicle 1 prefab: 0x2000000000000F7F {}
        // returns this for vehicle 2 prefab: 0x2000000000000F81 {}

oh wait i can probably just use GetName() since that increments the number in its output

[restive island]

I get "Vehicle" when I try it. Anyway to see what the other types it could return with?

string ownertype = owner.Type().ToString(); // IEntity owner  
    Print(ownertype);
    // out: Vehicle for a jeep, truck, helicopter etc

[restive island]

oh snap, thanks!

[humble pine]

hi! how do i get the total character weight with weapons?
GetTotalWeight() of SCR_CharacterInventoryStorageComponent returns only gear and inventory weight as i understand (probably not all actually). perfectly i would like to get number that shown at top-right in inventory UI.

[torn bane]

Get all stroages from the inventory storage manager and add all weights, or check how the inventory UI asks for it

[torn bane]

these are entity ids and they change with every spawn. I am not sure what you want to achieve

[torn bane]

Bad news, we might not be able to offer it, if you planned to use it on players it will cause desync, the reload process needs to happen on client and server in the same way. You can not just set a different chambered ammo on the serer while the player is shooting the gun

[latent heath]

Arkensor, do you know if it would be possible for launcher and UGLmuzzles to be edited to allow the signal of Switchmode to be sent to the player and not just the weapon like it is currently?

Momo mentioned if its not doing it currently then its possibly a backend issue. #enfusion_animation message

[shut shard]

what do you mean by Editable entity ?

[shut shard]

If this help by any chance.

[restive crown]

has CanPlace in SCR_ContentBrowserEditorComponent been changed in the newest experimental update? i cant see any mention on any changes in the changelog related to it but my script has broken after the update

[open pier]

Little tip when spawning items, make sure the spawning is happening server sided only. Without other configs set/methods returning the correct bool, pretty sure this code will run on client and server, which you don't want clients spawning anything

You'll get yelled at in the logs

[shut shard]

ok i will try thanks bro keep you in touch

[open pier]

knew there was something wrong, you need to set the Position and some other stuff, try to duplicate what i got here, the "Y" for position might differ, when you click on it it'll show you some arrows to move around

That should atleast make the action viewable
also due to habit the naming is done through script:

override bool GetActionNameScript(out string outName)
    {
        outName = "Action Name";
        return true;
    }

[shut shard]

@open pier @restive island@gloomy lynxguys thank u so much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all works fine goose thankssss

[visual atlas]

can someone check a crash guid for me pls ❤️ 58764f4e-e312-4df2-be91-bbcb38b2a4ed

[restive island]

Yea I was looking for the unique ID of spawned entities. Some have >1 fuel node that iterates SCR_FuelNode.c, I needed a way to keep track of which node is iterating the logic more than once

[torn bane]

vanilla logic will often ask for it on multiple events, that is no problem at all

[torn bane]

vanilla issue we need to fix

[restive island]

np. Editable prefabs have an orange marking on their icon and are usually structures, regular prefabs have blue marking. Depending on the sub-prefab settings in a composition prefab, it will not carry over added components from the regular prefab to Editable prefab and it has the same result you were running into.

[restive island]

Is the result 0x2000000000000F7F {} the actual unique ID of the entity that stays with it throughout its life?

[torn bane]

yes until it is deleted at runtime, not the same between client and server, not the same across multiple restarts

[restive island]

How can i get it from the server?

[torn bane]

Call the same methond on the server, it is just like a memory address id, it is local to each machine

[visual atlas]

ah damn, thank you for looking. same with these? 3616537c-41ea-44e5-9f20-4dbe13503837 acb64d6e-775c-4e0f-afd3-4c5aa304bbe1 crashing a lot in the last day or so

is it some vanilla system we are opting into? or something generic

[amber moat]

@torn bane a custom transport aircraft kinematic flight, openable ramp/doors, walkable interior, passengers riding mid-flight, would you build it as a full Reforger vehicle (compartment manager + AGR + the vehicle stack), or a lighter custom entity? What does the vehicle framework give for free that we’d otherwise re-implement?

I mean I have a ton of questions honestly but that’s the main one

It’s my first time touching vehicles with proper animations and models

The other ones I have are just props that I fly via script not real vics

this will be both

[spark otter]

How do I force a vehicle to spawn in, I'm assuming it's out of streaming range? It will spawn in if I go to it in GM, but not before I do that. I want it to spawn in without me having to do that.

[thick helm]

I did a C-130 aircraft flight model, I can answer some questions in DM if you like. But my questions is why you choose the kinematic path?

[amber moat]

arent u using the redline one?

i already hit the wall btw, it needs to be A vic

[amber moat]

kinematic because i dont wantplayers to fly it

ride it only

[thick helm]

No, it's my own flight model

[thick helm]

I see, then yeah, kinematic is the way to go, much easier 🙂

[amber moat]

your work is very ahead of what Im doing

i basicallyneed a flying prop with animations that lets people sit in it

but ill take a look at your model if u dont mind

[amber moat]

also how are u gonna work out your ramp collider? thats what im working on and redline team has had same issue too. for now only good example of proper ramps is coltons

The issue is that u guys chose to use a standalone Vic animation comp but that’s not gonna work u need the whole sim system

[thick helm]

What do you mean? What is the problem with ramp collider?

[amber moat]

when i close it the collider doesnt move with it

(my model) but ive seen r3d they have same issue (?)

[thick helm]

You have to parent it to a bone, and the in the anim graph you have to add a tag to update collider when that animation runs

[amber moat]

wait

it works i lost 2 days on this

[amber moat]

thanks a lot panda

[thick helm]

I have also lost days on this issue, glad I could help 😄

[red cedar]

MpObserver?

[plucky folio]

I'm trying to start up the dedicated server tool, it's been fine in the past but now I get this error.. Any ideas on how to fix?

[polar surge]

Question regarding timing and CallQueue:

I am contemplating implementing one or more custom CallQueues into my mission, to not use the global queue.

• would it be a good idea to have multiple singleton queues with different priorities? Background would be that e.g. spawning groups is not as time-sensitive as updating game states or player flags etc. ?
• if I just use Call() in the queue with a time offset, how is that different to just loading up the global queue? Any way to defer low-priority calls to later?
• is there a proper way to load balance this?
• is there a way to properly profile my method calls? Or do I just measure deltatimes?

Any hints welcome

[plucky folio]

nvm fixed it

[torn bane]

Using the global call queue provided by the game which 90% of vanilla content uses makes sense if it should tick even if the gametime is paused and you usually have millisecond accuracy. ScenarioFramework has it's own because it should not tick while the game is paused and other conditions. There isn't much to be gained from using a custom call queue instance unless you either have thausands of calls to tick and or all of them only really make sense to advance once every few seconds or so you can avoid some internal checking cycle if you know your times are in the order of minutes or hours.

[red cedar]

Ok here is some yappter because i'm pissed at my blind self for not seeing it before but also i feel like this should throw a compilation error :

{
  [...]
    // Invoker and rank are inverted however it still compiles, would be cool to force casting to the correct enum type instead of allowing to pass int as enums
        bool success = SetRankToPlayer(playerId,invoker, rank, false);
  [...]
}
[...]
private bool SetRankToPlayer(int playerId, SCR_ECharacterRank rank, int invoker, bool allowDemotion = true)

i know this is on me, but still it is really irritating that i wasted so much time rewriting my setrank method while the issue were the params order

[river imp]

enums are ints, it's your job to make sure you're passing the correct args

[red cedar]

I'm aware

I have just been losing my mind for a solid hour because of this silly mistake

[river imp]

Regardless, "would be cool to force casting to the correct enum type instead of allowing to pass int as enums' will never be a thing because you don't cast an int to an int.

[red cedar]

Watch me

[river imp]

It doesn't matter how you do it, you're still always gonna be able to pass enums as ints, and vice versa.

So do extra stuff for no reason if you want, and I'll watch you accomplish nothing. lool

[red cedar]

I'm just joking atp, I understand why it's like that just that in that one specific case it would've been useful

However

Being able to store an IENTITY var into an int without casting is pretty insane to me

[river imp]

What?

[red cedar]

Yeah

[river imp]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[river imp]

elaborate

[red cedar]

Was at the mechanic i'll send the thing in a sec

[red cedar]

{
[...]
  int masterPiece = FindPlayer(search)
[...]
}

private IEntity FindPlayer(string search)
    {
        search.ToLower();
        PlayerManager pm = GetGame().GetPlayerManager();
        array<int> playerIds = {};
        pm.GetPlayers(playerIds);
        foreach(int playerId : playerIds)
        {
            
            string playerName = pm.GetPlayerName(playerId);
            playerName.ToLower();
            string uid = KE_Helper.GetPlayerUID(playerId);
            if(playerName.Contains(search) || uid == search)
            {
                return pm.GetPlayerControlledEntity(playerId);
            }
        }
        return null;
    }

This should not compile, yet it does

[ocean kernel]

Why not? Does it throw a syntax error when you cast int to int?

[red cedar]

Sleepy me wrote this masterpiece and i dont believe this should compile

[river imp]

But you're not storing an IEntity in an int, you're storing a player ID

If that were the case you would be able to do it with any IEntity and not just a player.

[red cedar]

? are you sure ? the result from this method was always 1 i think the ientity was turned into a null entity check

the variable was called playerId because i was not paying attention

but it didn't store one (changed the var name)

[river imp]

It only works because you're specifically getting a player from the player manager.

[red cedar]

oh

[river imp]

Wait, you're returning an entity, which makes no sense. I would expect workbench to yell about this.

[river imp]

Yes, that's what's happening. I misunderstood earlier when I first glanced at it.

[red cedar]

fair enough

[red cedar]

kinda weird that it cast implicitly from IEntity -> bool -> int without any warning or compilation issue

[river imp]

bools are ints

It's weird that you're declaring masterPiece as an int and setting it to a IEntity lol

It's also weird that workbench isn't yelling.

But, you're declaring it as an int and it seems to be returning it as a bool (null or not) which is an int.

[minor agate]

@red cedar Any class instance can be converted into a VM relative pointer by casting with it.
Try (int)someInstance on console log and see

Ah that seems to be broken now

lol

It will return 1

[pliant ingot]

Why?

[minor agate]

It seems it was used before as implicit implementation for if (instance) or any other conditional to resolve to anything other than 0x0 when it actually is stored somewhere

But now it just goes into what bool is internally

[minor agate]

if pointer does not point anywhere then it does not exist (nullptr)

in other words 0x0

but on conditionals when dealing with numbers, anything other than 0x0 returns true

@river imp @red cedar It's totally valid code due to the above

No bug or crash will happen with it

[spark otter]

Is the weird compilation issue going to come to stable? o.O I just had another instance of this I believe in 1.7.

Simply changed the order of overrides and now its working instead of calling the vanilla method.

[minor agate]

Nothing has been worked on regarding this yet

Stop using statics

[spark otter]

actually it was a little different this time. I had to override the function that calls what Im overriding to get it to work.

I personally dont use them that much, but mods that I mod do use them more often.

[minor agate]

Tell the modders that I say to stop using statics

[spark otter]

@dire sinew ^^^

[minor agate]

There is always problems here and there

@torn bane made a method not be static anymore by overddiing it without adding static on the override lol

(This is fixed for a while now)

Thing is that there were no moddability on statics before

But it was added as I placed high modding risk on it due to codecs being static

But modding itself kinda breaks OOP and general thought of it. So certain normal behaviors kinda break with modded

This one escaped us

But the change for this one is a bit convoluted so it will take a while as it's not that big of a problem

[spark otter]

yeah at least there is a way around it for now

not ideal, but it works!

[dire sinew]

Meh, I don't see the point in creating objects for just a bunch of helper methods.

[red cedar]

Truthnuke

[bronze pasture]

does anyone know how air drag and side drag work for projectiles? I'm trying to integrate complex trajectories

[restive island]

How can I add a component to a prefab composition via script?

n/m found it i think: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Create_a_Component

[pliant ingot]

you can't

[dire sinew]

You don't have to do the integration yourself. There are already utilities for simulating trajectories. See BallisticTable and/or ProjectileMoveComponent::GetProjectileSimulationResult. Also keep in mind that wind deflection is not correctly implemented on stable. There is already a fix for it on experimental though (see https://feedback.bistudio.com/T195806).

[maiden goblet]

No need any class you can just put your functions on top level

[red cedar]

Helpers are static classes that you can reuse to get redundant stuff done quickly and easily

If you just put it within the class you're modding then you'll have the same method appear 250 times within your project , it would also be a hell to maintain

[maiden goblet]

By "top level" I meant don't put it in any class. i.e. just put the function on its own and you can call it from anywhere.

[red cedar]

Oh those

But they'd still have to be static wouldn't they?

[maiden goblet]

No, but I don't know actually what adding static keyword would do or not do with top level function.

[minor agate]

@red cedar @maiden goblet Do not do that lol

You will clutter global namespace (More name collisions and intellisense will confuse you)

And they are not moddable

[pliant ingot]

Only after removing SCR_EntityHelper, SCR_Enum and etc

[minor agate]

Static methods for generic util classes are fine

But if you place gameplay logic on them

Modders will like to mod it or be forced

And that is where you land into the issue @spark otter ran into

So do not use static methods for gameplay logic

[red cedar]

I use helper classes anyway, only global functions i have defined are "LogKittenEye" and "LogBackend"

[bronze pasture]

does this already incorporate wind?

[dire sinew]

Yes, ProjectileMoveComponent::GetProjectileSimulationResult does include wind deflection.

[bronze pasture]

does shellmovecomponent have this?

[dire sinew]

Yes, as it's a child class.

[bronze pasture]

thanks

[amber moat]

What’s the actual runtime bridge between AnimationControllerComponent.SetFloatVariable (or SignalsManagerComponent.SetSignalValue + AnimVariables) and the AGR’s variable space on a VehicleAnimationComponent-only entity (no wheeled sim layer)?

[storm bobcat]

Does anyone have a mod for linking discord and BI accounts?
I do know it requires external software, i can handle that.

[amber moat]

linking in what sense?

[storm bobcat]

This bi identity is connected to this discord id, which is a user in my community discord.

[red cedar]

you'll have to get them to link their own account

[storm bobcat]

Well, i have heard of a few other people working on this. So i was wondering if anyone has a mod for it that I could reference or use?

And then, yes they have to do it in game.

[open pier]

Outside of the mod you'll need a discord Bot to support this.

My bot doesn't tie into the mod at all though, linking just allows them general views of their info like bans, bank balance and some other things.

[amber moat]

I do this with my mod but I use an external backend to sync everything

I connect discord, Argus, game profiles and all are synced

You’ll need discord bot, backend, functions and mod

[storm bobcat]

Im aware. I can handle the backend easily. I already have a player database. Linking is pretty easy. 1 new table and a API for the server mod to call that adds the data to the DB.

[storm bobcat]

Is this a mod that I can repurpose or that I can you would let me use the code from? (More so the UI for the linking menu)

[red cedar]

if he mentioned using a discord bot he's likely linking his acc using discord

[amber moat]

unfortunately not

[red cedar]

or a website

[red cedar]

that's how i did it personally

[storm bobcat]

Playstation players cant easily use typed / external tools. Im going for ease of use

[amber moat]

i can help u though

[storm bobcat]

If you dont mind helping me a bit with the UI, i could use some help next week. Ill be reviewing the UI tutorial before then. But also some pointers on properly setting up serverside code could be some help.

[amber moat]

yes of course!! just shoot me a dm

[amber moat]

my website and my backend

https://argus.k02-1.com

[storm bobcat]

Im not sure what im looking at, but it sounds cool.

I was looking to set up event tracker with a map for my server using the event api from Server Admin Tools and a website.

[amber moat]

u dont need server admin tools

[open pier]

Have you done any work with the REST API?

[storm bobcat]

Some testing, i understand it well enough.

Thats the easiest part of what I want to do.

[tough cave]

do you think you have to detect gun shots (proximity) or will the audio system tell you the loudness / output volume of all sound effects? so, loudness in dB.

[storm bobcat]

What are you talking about?

[open pier]

Yee was gonna say that's your friend but atleast its easy. And you plan to have them link their discord while ingame?

Like their ingame, open some ui, type in their discord account and it links it?

[storm bobcat]

Yeah. So Client Request, Rpc to Server -> server to backend for code -> send code to client

Player then goes to discord to register code with a command

[open pier]

Ahh gotcha, nvrm in what I was getting to, which was verification

[storm bobcat]

It all happens through systems that (should be) are trusted as for their account authentication.
This also keeps registration minimal and easy to understand.

I think back to the name and bi identity spoofing.

But i also want to have in-game rewards like XP tokens/modifiers as rewards for events or compensation.

Eventually player profiles and stat tracking.

[open pier]

I have the opposite setup, go in discord and use a command with your Bohemia uid to link your accounts.

[vivid bison]

Afternoon all, does anyone have any idea where I can look to find how action options are added to the side menu? Specifically I'm interested in adding a prompt to these options. These prompts show when holding tab on keyboard when a weapon is equipped. Thanks 🙂

[red cedar]

Yeah one sec

[vivid bison]

Much appreciated

[storm bobcat]

So that can't be trusted per say. You have to trust they put in the correct one or not put in the ID for another player. This can be a concern for cross platform bans.

Say I get the ID of a player I dont like. Go into discord. Link their account, then start saying heinous stuff. Now I can get another player banned from the arma server.

I as a server owner have the IDs of all players on my server... I wont abuse that, but do we trust all other communities? I dont let my admins even see the IDs. I have a ban system that keeps it hidden from them

[red cedar]

AvailableActions.conf -> Hint UI config file

chimeraInputCommon.conf -> Register your keybinds

keyBindingMenu.conf -> Make it so people can modify their keybinds in the control settings.

and if you're looking for the code that displays it SCR_AvailableActionsWidget.c

[open pier]

Bohemia uids are public, if you go into any server and run the #players command you can see that. I don't have a layer of verification since all linkg does is give you view access to info, nothing ingame or out of game(yet)

[vivid bison]

Interesting, i have tinkered with all 3 of them, but i'm not seeing any changes, I'm not sure if the tag etc is needed and where that is defined. But I just duplicated the CharacterUnequipItem entry as what i want to do is very similar to that behaviour. E.g the conditions.

[red cedar]

Have you restarted the workbench after overriding the files?

[vivid bison]

Yeah. Does the tag in the AvailableActions.conf have any meaning? E.g do i have to define a tag anywhere else in a .layout file or whatever?

[storm bobcat]

Does players command work for non admins?

And yes, the id is intended as public info. But for regular players, it is still something that links to them. So I treat it as personal info, not public info.

[open pier]

Slash commands are for staff, prefixed commands for players. Restricted access all around

[red cedar]

player commond work for non admin if you allow it for them

[red cedar]

I just keep tag as default

[open pier]

You know, just realized you're talking about the ingame command. That's all access

[red cedar]

those are my settings for example

i only touch conditions, action and name

[vivid bison]

I'll try that, thanks for the insight though

[storm bobcat]

Goodluck

[red cedar]

also you overrode the original config right ? not duplicating or inheriting it ?

[vivid bison]

Yeah, overrode it

[red cedar]

hm

if you did that and restarted your WB then it should work

[vivid bison]

Still not there sadly, i just wanted to see if i could make it where it would hoist the weapon to the chest by having a separate bind and action. I assume i duplicated the correct action in the conf but it might not be? I'll just change the strings in some and see if anything changes

[tough cave]

it was a general question I was throwing out there about loudness of game audio. I was asking if anyone knew a way to detect if explosions, gun fire sounds were blasting around you.

[storm bobcat]

I wouldnt quite know... But something about Signals. They are used to trigger sounds, idk if you can detect by script though

Look into signals component

[desert escarp]

Is there an example on how to properly use the EntitySlotInfo attach entity

Currently it works fine for connected player but any JIPs do not see the item as attached

I've got it now that the server attaches it to the slot and then broadcasts to all clients to attach it

It seems like just attaching it from the the auth doesn't cause it to attach for proxies

[desert escarp]

The solution was to use SCR_EquipmentStorageComponent as that slot in there seems to actually be properly replicated using the same exact methods

[wintry sundial]

Hey guys,

I'd like to implement visible holstered pistols on the character's hip — similar to how rifles are visually slung on the back or chest when not in hand. Would anyone happen to have any idea about this?

[wooden shale]

So when you go to an arsenal and you equip a holster and you equip a pistol if you drag the pistol into the container with the holster on it the pistol will show visibly in the holster and you can still equip it with the keybind

[river imp]

Just untick Holstered Hidden on the CharacterWeaponSlotComponent for the secondary slot

[river imp]

Vanilla game doesn't have weapon holstering into holsters. So what you're explaining would expect him to be using a mod that adds it.

Regardless, he wasn't asking how to holster them into holsters but, how to simply have them not hidden when holstered.

[wintry sundial]

Yep, that's right ^^. Thanks for all those information. Should be easier than i thought 🙂

[toxic lake]

What mods that?

[river imp]

That's not a mod.

[toxic lake]

Where is that then if base game doesn't support it? Confused lol

[river imp]

What are you confused about.

Guy asked how to not have pistols hidden when they are holstered.

That's how you do it.

Another guy commented about holsters.

Holsters in vanilla game don't do anything.

[toxic lake]

I read this set of messages as there was a way to do it vanilla lol

[river imp]

To not have them hidden when holstered. Yes

You do it how I posted in the screenshot.

"Holstered" doesn't mean "in a holster" in this sense.

[toxic lake]

On todays episode of BI being BI

[river imp]

Holsters can easily be done as I've got the functionality floating around somwhere. Just weird that it isn't vanilla functionality.

[toxic lake]

Yeah I've always found it odd, it's been a thing since at least A2 and they didnt put it in reforger

[wooden shale]

I just assumed the game already had it because everywhere I have played has it but I guess I never play vanilla

I was just replying trying to help. I’ve asked many questions in here that have been jumped over and not responded to so I am just trying to assist.

[river imp]

It's not a big deal.

Questions do get drowned here.

If you're asking a question no one has answered it's probably because the thing you're doing is unique to you and now one else has tried to do the thing so they don't have an answer.

[wooden shale]

I’m honestly surprised people can learn enfusion I find it really undocumented and pretty confusing 😂 I’ve been writing code for 12 years and it makes me feel meh 😂

[river imp]

There aren't many like myself who will go out of their way to try to do the thing just to come up with an answer.

[river imp]

Or it's been answered 1000 times.

[wooden shale]

Well that’s what I like to do. I like to make things that I haven’t seen

As unfortunate as it makes my brain feel

[river imp]

Exact reason I have like 250+ unreleased mods.

[wooden shale]

💀 250 to my w.i.p 1

[river imp]

What kind of code?

[wooden shale]

Lua, TypeScript, C#, PHP ( Mainly on Laravel ) are my primary languages that I’ve been fluent in over the years.

[river imp]

So you have OOP experience. You should be able to do this blindfolded.

[wooden shale]

I’m writing the code just fine. I think it’s just understanding the engine itself and how it works more than anything 😂

[toxic lake]

Pro tip: it doesnt

[river imp]

It does.

[toxic lake]

https://tenor.com/bkc8S.gif

[river imp]

Duh

[wooden shale]

Idk why it’s beating me up as much as it is to be honest. Just is what it is learning something new

[lean lagoon]

Documentation is very minimal, api reference pages are useful, but I hope they set up a system similar to Arma 3’s function documentation on the bi wiki… perhaps with more options for community input & examples. It would definitely save us a lot of time and reduce the amount of questions on here. The boot camp videos are nice general tutorials, but it’s difficult to find an explanation of something specific you’re looking for in a video.

[solid hearth]

Only confusing thing I found was knowing the relations between Proxy, Authority, Owner etc. Knowing what is running where (on a proxy, or authority) and what can be done on X. Once you get past that hurdle it's more or less smooth sailing. Anything you could really want to know you just need to use the search function in the editor.

[river imp]

The best documentation for the game is the game itself.

Most everything functionality wise exists from scripts.

Meaning if you wanna know how something works you just look at the scripts.

The odds that there will ever be complete documentation for every function that exits on every single entity/component is very very low.

This isn't sqf where there are 2654 functions.

[storm bobcat]

Ever tried arma 3 sqf? Even starting in 2021 when there was documentation, it was cursed.

Its always been like this i think. You dont get a lot of documentation or a lot of help. You just smash your head against it until it leaves an impression in your skull.

[lean lagoon]

I get that, I’m just saying reading something like this

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Post_Process_Effects

is easier/quicker than going through the code base…

If there was an equivalent for reforger, it would be very helpful for new modders and people who dont have as much time to mind meld with the source code

[storm bobcat]

One of us could set up a wiki.

[wooden shale]

It would take ages to document all of it 😂

[storm bobcat]

With community help

As tax

[wooden shale]

I feel like now a days when game devs make moddable platforms you see a lot of document generators based on code comments that it can auto generate from but as Zelik said there is so much in here I could see a lot of it not being documented just out of time sake. Especially from having classes and embedded methods inside those classes and different attribute properties and the list goes on and on.

I will just have to start opening the SCR_ files and see how they work.

[river imp]

Regardless of how helpful it would be, it simply isn't gonna happen. This isn't A3 where someone with absolutely has 0 experience can just "be a modder".

[storm bobcat]

There arent a lot of code comments in the complex systems. I think all base classes have them, although they sometimes feel sparse for detail or nuance

[lean lagoon]

Api reference is already autogenerated, but there isnt a place/format for community examples like a3

[river imp]

You're expected to know things, specifically game development things. Your number one resource would be knowing how to debug.

[wooden shale]

Ah I gotcha. I was never in the A3 modding community so I wouldn't know anything about that.

[solid hearth]

If not for this I'd be lost

[river imp]

My best friend

[solid hearth]

But with the text search you can snag some dev comments that better fit your search

[river imp]

I don't care about the comments

I care about what the function is doing.

[solid hearth]

Most poweful things in the script editor are symbol search, search in general and The watch tab for debugging. Yet so many overlook it

[river imp]

Watch ftw

[red cedar]

I have this opinion that learning to script for AR is more about learning how to navigate in the WB and knowing where to look at.

Most people already know how to write code in c# so with the exception of replication it's mostly about finding what already exists and can help you

[storm bobcat]

A3 is the same, in a different way. The biggest challenge is the knowledge, not scripting

[lean lagoon]

Obviously knowing OOP and being competent in debugging are prerequisites for this, but it is still just a fun hobby for people on their free time… Improving/centralizing the resources/documentation and involving the community would certainly be ideal, albeit cumbersome… the mods are a big selling point for the game and I think something of the sorts would result in more cool mods.

[river imp]

The problem is people not having the prerequisites which are obtained elsewhere. So not only are "we" required to teach you Enfusion specifics we're required to teach the prerequisites and I don't mean just script related things.

You can't swim as a hobby if you don't learn how to swim first lol. Just like you can't game dev as a hobby if you know nothing about game development. Every hobby has an entry level. And the entry level for modding this game isn't one that allows for 0 experience in game development.

[lean lagoon]

Yes thats is irrelevant to what i am talking about.

The idea isn’t to make something that teaches people how to code or other foundational knowledge. It’s generally not in anyone’s interest to do that.

I simply want a platform that makes the information quicker to consume and easier to digest. Bi did it for A3, i dont see why it cant be done again, it’s not really that different when you think about it. “Functions, classes, etc are constantly being added and updated”… yeah that happened for arma 3 too lol, the wiki has never been perfect, yet it has always been a key resource for modders. There wouldn’t be even half the mods you love on the steam workshop if it werent for that…

[river imp]

It isn't, because you're expecting things to be documented in a way that anyone can just read them and do anything regardless of experience.

And it's just not that simple anymore.

[storm bobcat]

I think thats where A3 modding excels. Its so easy to start with. You can just start scripting stuff.

Double click a player and write _playerPos = getPos _this; _playerPos set [1, (_playerPos select 1) + 100]; _this setPos _playerPos; and you can teach them about gravity. You can make that a one liner when you learn about vectorAdd and this can written, ran, and tested in a live game.

Reforger doesnt have the easy gateway into scripting.

[river imp]

I assume you mean doesn't.

And it's more than likely never going to.

[storm bobcat]

Nope

[river imp]

Because you're expected to have prior experience.

[lean lagoon]

No that’s not what I said…

Like, people dont read through all the source code of popular c libraries, npm & PyPI packages, etc. that they use unless they’re uber security conscious or planning on making forks… they mostly just read documentation and look at examples.

[river imp]

The vanilla scripts are the best examples currently, more than likely there will never be documentation for every function that exists, regardless of that you're doing elsewhere or your opinion on the matter.

https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/ArmaReforgerScriptAPIPublic/
https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/EnfusionScriptAPIPublic/

That will be the best you get in regards to documentation.

[lean lagoon]

Yeah I mentioned this documentation earlier, it is helpful, but it could be made better with a simple addition of community comments & examples. That way there is a centralized hub that just… makes everything easier.

Seeing examples of stuff being used in different ways adds insight and fuels creativity

People would also be able to explain edge cases where things dont work, like the community notes that i have seeen on the a3 wiki

[lean moth]

Probably a bit into A4, we’ll see the same community created repositories that outshined the Biki. It’s felt like a wasted effort for the amount of things that constantly change, I’d imagine that’s why the wiki is in its state as well

[minor agate]

You can run code on a live game, and server even and switch in between on AR (Enfusion)

You can also recompile scripts while any of these are running and take effect without having to relaunch

On top of that you can use all debugging on these

[lean lagoon]

Yeah hopefully hosted by bi though… while i can see community hosted ones potentially being more informative/thorough, it just wouldn’t get the same quantity of input. Site traffic is a key factor, because realistically only 1% or less of users would actually contribute something. Fracturing the community of modders into a separate service might be detrimental to the point of a centralized hub.

[restive island]

Do you mean something like this? If so, it's up to the community #community_wiki message

[restive island]

Wait, really? How's this done? I usually compile, see if what I changed works, close out the 3d viewport, recompile changes, then relaunch

[lean lagoon]

Yes I’m advocating for that, you see stuff like that on the a3 wiki.

[storm bobcat]

I didnt know about this. But you cant Write new code in a live (normal) game, right?
Like in arma 3, I would get some buddies on and I would just run some scripts straight on debug console on the actual server for testing.

[minor agate]

You can run both new code through remote console (Even on their machines)

And also change code and make it take effect without reloading the game or server

[storm bobcat]

Are you talking about peer tools?

[minor agate]

No

But it works on that as well

It's one of the reason why you have Diag exe for server

and diag exe for client

You would not be able to do this to a normal version (Non-Diag) of the game due to opening things for hacking

[storm bobcat]

Okay. So I don't enough

[minor agate]

But if both parties use the Diag exes then it will work

[storm bobcat]

Diag clients? Are those with experimental or in regular install? (im AFK by 1100 miles rn)

[minor agate]

They are on both stable and exp

[storm bobcat]

And is there a video/tutorial on using them?

[minor agate]

I think I used them in the replication bootcamps

also I think that I used it on the 2nd bootcamp video and the animation scripting one iirc

[storm bobcat]

Noted

[minor agate]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/news/modding-update-scripting-1-1

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Development_Executables

Those executables

[restive island]

Is this left arrow or backspace? It's longer than the others

[minor agate]

backspace

[toxic lake]

It would be nice if those shortcut keys didn't conflict with windows controls

[lean lagoon]

So true. U may already know this, but if u use "Play in Fullscreen" under the play scenario button dropdown, the windows snapping hotkeys wont get activated when u use diag

[toxic lake]

Yeah but I'd rather shoot myself than play in fullscreen, I mainly use debug when in an xob preview

[lean lagoon]

Yup

[toxic lake]

Especially when i'm tabbing between substance, blender etc

It could be easily fixed as well by making it press to toggle the menu not hold those keys down

[minor agate]

you can just use LCTR + LWIN + LALT to avoid all that

[spark otter]

Can anyone tell me where the launching of a rocket launcher is handled? (More specifically, launched by AI)

[restive island]

hold up, you mean I can tag the prefabs I give a shit about for easier finding??? 🤔

[minor agate]

THis is not for naming

This is for 3D scene querying

It's not a dictionary

If you have some really heavy handling of entities that you need to query in 3D into the world every frame or so

and you have many of them then better to do it in isolation with the TagManager

Than to do actual world spherical query/trace or so

Beware that this is a mask, and by so it is limited to 32 for the whole game including all mods

In any case it is more recommended that in order to avoid compatibility issues to just use the GridMap mentioned after

TagManager is basically the same thing

[toxic lake]

Could we maybe put that in the wiki page for it?

[restive island]

Why is it in powers of 2 and limited to 32 max?

[minor agate]

Because filtering by mask is ultra fast

[restive island]

faster than just doing bit shifting?

[minor agate]

Bit shifting is powers of two in regular integer binary

It says powers of two for non programmers reading it

[minor agate]

https://www.sdss.org/dr19/tutorials/using_bitmasks/

[ocean kernel]

I just use flags as strings in CSV with a custom parser

[red cedar]

Hey @minor agate can I get some more details on the following crash if possible ? GUID : 0bb1899f-dc33-4c8c-8b40-b66fca52090b

[winter jay]

WORLD        : UpdateEntities
RPL          : rpl::Pip::ProcessNetToGame

RPL       (E): Item was removed from replication on local machine but there are still RPCs targeting it. 
This may be sign of very serious issues! itemId=0x8000B725, 
identity=0x00000000, rpc='Rpc_ProxyIncrementalUpdateCtrl_BCNO'

RPL       (E): Item was removed from replication on local machine but there are still RPCs targeting it. 
This may be sign of very serious issues! itemId=0x8000B742, 
identity=0x00000000, rpc='Rpc_ProxyIncrementalUpdateAnim_BCNO'

How to pinpoint which mod/prefab generate it?

[blissful steeple]

Hey all,
I'm stuck trying to get a custom keybind to open a custom UI in my mod. I just want the I-key to open a custom ChimeraMenuBase (or even just a widget via Workspace.CreateWidgets).

I've tried the following:

Overriding chimeraInputCommon.conf with a new Action and adding it to the IngameContext via additive ActionRefs.

AddActionListener and GetActionValue don't fire for my action (but vanilla actions work fine with the same code).

Creating a custom context and calling inputManager.ActivateContext("MyCtx", priority) every frame via CallQueue - still nothing.

inputManager.CreateUserBinding().AddBinding(...) programmatically - it logs success but polling always returns 0.

As a fallback I rebinding the vanilla TasksOpen action - that works, but Reforgers Objectives overlay opens at the same time.

Is there a standard / recommended way to make a mod-registered action actually fire in Reforger?
Or should I just mod the vanilla TasksDisplay to hide itself when my menu is open? I saw @red cedar tip about only activating context for one frame, but the loop didn’t help me either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[red cedar]

I don't appreciate being pinged for that

[blissful steeple]

Sorry

Oops sorry again

[dire sinew]

Well, I did make a ticket for 64 bit flags: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T196144 😅

[ocean kernel]

How many flags do you need

[red cedar]

67

[solid hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/just-get-out-of-here-go-go-leroy-brown-assisted-living-s4-e2-go-away-gif-9636572612298392823

[toxic lake]

https://tenor.com/view/lucifer-lucifer69-luciferauction-gif-21825542

[restive island]

If I make a custom class1 and have it inherit from class2, why do I get "class3 (inherited by class2) is private?"

This happens when I make an object for class2 within class1

[pliant ingot]

Code?

[torn bane]

I am not sure if we will be able to do this, there is some interoperability between enum type and integer which is 32 bit. the only 64 type we have is for some engine controlled ones. But we will see, having a ticket is better than never asking for something

[red cedar]

If any BI employee can help me get some more info related to this crash it would be really kinda cool

[minor agate]

Animation graph problem. You had 102 mods on so very hard to pinpoint where the issue was coming from exactly.

It crashed during evaluation of animation graph

[red cedar]

okk ty

[minor agate]

It's one of our most common crashes

[red cedar]

that's fair, thing is it happened right as someone was toying with some feature of my mod so i was wonderring wether it could've been caused by my mod or not

that's why there was a bunch of pageDown logs before the crash, funny timing

[minor agate]

It could have initiated it, but not be the direct cause

I do not know your mods so I can't give a guess

But it seems it's just due to anim graph corruption

[red cedar]

my mods doesn't toy with animations so i'm not sure how it could've initiated the crash tbh

[minor agate]

Do you show previews of prefabs somewhere?

or spawn prefabs?

[red cedar]

i do spawn a single prefab locally which is a camera then i move it around

[minor agate]

Anything dealing with entities that are animated can initiate it

but again it would not be the root cause

[red cedar]

would snapping the camera to for example the sight front position be likely to cause that?

[minor agate]

I think this can crash if the bone is LOD restricted

[red cedar]

would it cause a similar anim graph crash too ?

[minor agate]

I don't know. the crash is there for a long time due to it being obscure

[red cedar]

oh fair enough

[minor agate]

But if you find a consistent repo then let me know

[red cedar]

sure

[blissful steeple]

Still trying to figure this out

[latent elbow]

Did you register your menu layout in chimera menu.conf? Did you register your keybind in chimerainputcommon.conf?

Are you wanting an action to open a menu or simply just press a key to open a menu?

[blissful steeple]

Yea, my menu is registered in chimeraMenus.conf (inherited from vanilla), layout file exists, opens fine via Workspace.CreateWidgets().

Keybind tried it, that's the part that's broken for me. Added a new action in chimeraInputCommon.conf (both standalone and inherited), added it to IngameContext via ActionRefs - InputManager just never picks it up at runtime. GetActionValue() returns 0 forever.

I just want a keypress to open the menu. Nothing fancy, no menu stack, no HUD. Press I → menu opens, press I → closes.

[ancient axle]

anyone know what this is

nevr had this issue

now i am

nothings changed since last publish

[latent elbow]

class MyMenuComponentClass : ScriptComponentClass {}

class MyMenuComponent : ScriptComponent
{
override void OnPostInit(IEntity owner)
{
super.OnPostInit(owner);
InputManager input = GetGame().GetInputManager();
////CHANGE THIS TO YOUR INPUT NAME
input.AddActionListener("UseKillstreak", EActionTrigger.DOWN, OnKeyPressed);

}

protected void OnKeyPressed()
{
    if (GetGame().GetPlayerController() != GetOwner()) return;

//CHANGE THIS TO YOUR CHIMERAMENU ENTRY
GetGame().GetMenuManager().OpenMenu(ChimeraMenuPreset.HFS_Shop);
}
}

Place this on the player controller

Under context in chimera input find ingamecontext add a new action ref with same name as your input.

make sure to reload your workshop when changing chimerainput as that gets loaded at start.
i could be wrong, but i tested and it works for me.

[blissful steeple]

Perfect, thanks man. Just have a few questions:

ChimeraMenuPreset.HFS_Shop - how did you register that enum entry? Did you add it in chimeraMenus.conf or somewhere in script? I have my menu working via Workspace.CreateWidgets() directly, not through MenuManager i was wondering if I need to convert it?

"Place this on the player controller" do you mean as a child entityin the player controller prefab in Workbench? Or modded class onto SCR_PlayerController? Just want to make sure I'm attaching it the right way.

Again thanks man!

[latent elbow]

you can create a modded class MOD_ChimeraMenuBase.c
modded enum ChimeraMenuPreset : ScriptMenuPresetEnum
{
HFS_Shop,

};

Override the playercontroller ({6E2BB64764E3BE9B}Prefabs/Characters/Core/DefaultPlayerController.et)
Add your menu script to this controller as a component, this will allow the player to open the menu

do you just want a widget to pop up or have a functioning menu? meaning you want players to click a button?
If you just want some information to pop up, its far simpler

[blissful steeple]

Fully functioning menu. Players need to click action rows (use / drop / give / sell), not just see a
popup. So I'll wire it through ChimeraMenuBase + register the preset via modded enum ChimeraMenuPreset {
My_InventoryMenu } and open with GetMenuManager().OpenMenu(...) so I get cursor + focus management out of the box

[latent elbow]

yeah follow my guide and wire it through the menu, i wouldnt use Workspace.CreateWidgets() for this as it wont function as a menu, i went through the same issue in the beginning where it would pop up a widget but i could still move around xD

[latent elbow]

figured it out eventually and now i have a full functioning shop in game

[blissful steeple]

Yea i am trying what you told me right now, crossing fingers that i get it to work

[latent elbow]

Hope this helps, lmk if any issues

[blissful steeple]

Is "UseKillstreak" in your example a CUSTOM action you defined in your mod's chimeraInputCommon.conf? Or is it a vanilla Reforger action that already exists in the game?

I've replicated your setup 1:1 in my mod:

• Action "My_OpenInventory" defined in mod chimeraInputCommon.conf
  (inheriting from vanilla via ActionManager : "{795184CF...}")
• InputSourceSum > Sources > InputSourceValue with keyboard:KC_I (no filter)
• ActionRef "My_OpenInventory" added to IngameContext
• modded class SCR_PlayerController with AddActionListener("My_OpenInventory",
  EActionTrigger.DOWN, callback) in OnInit

The listener registers successfully (my log fires on player spawn), but the
callback NEVER fires on I-tap. Same code works fine for vanilla actions like
"MenuOpen"

Again thanks man!

[latent elbow]

did you reload tools? chimera input does not update unless workshop is fully closed and re opened, i found out the hard/long way. UseKillstreak is my own action, players press a key to use a killstreak they have bought from a shop but i modified it to open a menu so i could give you some context. My shop menus are opened via an action instead of a keybind. Also, add a filter. that determines is pressed, is held etc

[storm bobcat]

Inherited or override ?

[blissful steeple]

I will try tomorrow, been at it for a few hours now. I really appreciate you taking your time, to help

[blissful steeple]

Inherited

[latent elbow]

You need to override!! Sorry I missed that

[blissful steeple]

That is 100% the problem then hahaha

[storm bobcat]

I sent that earlier, and then saw how many messages yall sent and was like "oh i bet this is useless now, i doubt this is it" 😂😂

[storm bobcat]

Btw, you can inherit. But then you need to replace the reference to the original file with your new file. This is generally safer, but few people do it and it is more tedious.

[fringe prairie]

Inherit is not safer lol. Prefabs, etc. where your implementation should grow with the original, yes, but configs that must have your stuff in it, override is just inherit but you are adding to it directly. The runaround of replacing the reference with your inherited version likely will create problems with any mod that tries doing the same thing, your actions would be missing depending on load order, etc. Unless that isn't what you were saying lol.

[storm bobcat]

Inherit is safer when you have multiple mods that modify the same file.you guarantee your changes are last.

Now if everyone did an inherit pattern, you instead would have to compat everything by merging all the changes, the solution to the problem you point. So yes, Override has its place. But its downside is you deal with conflicts where two mods have conflicting changes. Load order would decide whose mod has final say

[fringe prairie]

yes but when you add things to an overridden config, there should be no conflicts?

[red cedar]

Some people use override to delete or modify existing things, those can lead to conflicts

[fringe prairie]

Because all an override is doing is adding your entries, or modifying existing entries - the order shouldn't really matter at all unless there is a conflict, if you inherit that config, then point the game to your version, you undercut anyone also doing inheritance, you will probably be fine yourself because everyone else is doing override, so your inherited config you are pointing the game to is still inheriting their overrides. If two people do inherit pattern, whatever mod loads last would win and the other mod loses their config entries. So to your point you will still run into conflicts with config changes override or not, but I think the consequences of inherit/repoint at for configs is greater issue

If one mod checks disable on something, and another mod checks enable - yeah there might be a conflict there, but I haven't run into the issue with that. What I have seen is GUID copies, like duplicating without changing name, causing the vanilla config to be overridden by the duplicate and preventing other mod configs from overriding successfully, but really all of these are preventable mistakes and I'd rather not have my keybinds not work because some mod took ownership of an inherited file.

[red cedar]

I despise those who don't add prefixed to their classes/configs

But i've ran into a bunch of conflicts issues, had someone use the same variable in the same class (so i was hammering his api with http requests)

A mod changed which config to read from to a duplicated version, etc

[night lagoon]

Can you un-override something? Like say mod A overrides two things, but you only want one thing and for the other to remain vanilla so Mod B can override it without having to be later in the load order because for reasons it needs to be earlier

Or at that point do you just have to make a compat

[solid hearth]

You could use the keyword vanilla instead of super to execute the non-modded method but it'd still be load-order dependent depending on what exactly you're trying to achieve (i.e stopping the override of another mod)

[fringe prairie]

Going insane:

Say I have a vehicle which is animated via vehicle animation component.
I have a slot on the vehicle which the animation component animates via graph.
I wish to swap the model at runtime

The game crashes with each attempt I have tried. Understand that the base game does black magic rotor head swapping, trying to replicate a similar feature. Not sure if the issue is animation graph getting extremely mad, rigid body being mad, or something else.

[minor agate]

@fringe prairie @storm bobcat It seems there is confusion in this chat about what override configs is

config override creates new config with inheritance that make the inherited config behave as the original one but with the added or modified entires

config inheritance creates new config with inheritance, which you then have to make anything in the game that needs it point to it. this is problematic for modding when dealing with multiple mods trying to add things to the game

config duplicate creates a new 1:1 config from snapshot of the original of the time at creation.

Best one for modding is config override. Doing the others is like not calling super on scripts

[storm bobcat]

I'm just fine. Also that's a great analogy. Idk why agent is on a rant.

[blissful steeple]

Overide did it, this is why i have tried 8 times, without it even running in logs. It worked the first time with Override. Aprecciate all of your help yesterday. Same goes to you guys @storm bobcat @minor agate

[latent elbow]

Happy you got it working! if you need help with buttons just lmk 🙂

[storm bobcat]

Glad to hear. For simple things, you can just stick to override.
(This part is to address the convo above) All i was pointing out is that you could also replace the file above to achieve the same if you really wanted.

[minor agate]

But if someone does the same, to the original and loads with your mod

Your mod changes will then be not taken into account if loaded before, or the mod from the other mod will not be taken into account if yours is loaded after

That is where it breaks when doing it with inherit

It's not the same result on this environment of multiple mods targeting the same file

[rose coral]

I have 3 Factions in my FactionManager, only US IsPlayable, there's a ConflictMilitaryBase at 3 different points, all the faction info is set on the various parts of the CMB. When spawning in, sometimes the "FIA" base is an option for US spawn? I've double and triple checked the Faction Affiliation settings and they are all correct for their respective factions...

I used the Game Mode Setup plugin with Conflict.conf

[thick helm]

Would it be possible in the future to have more exposed methods for interacting with CharacterAnimationComponent linking system? A method to force a link would be nice

[willow flame]

im working on a scoreboard mod and this may not be the place to ask, but i figured someone here would have the answer. i had it working in workbench as a widget set to hold F3. it would show on press and hide on release. now when i uploaded it and attached it to the gamemode in a dedicated server, it did nothing. the client and server arent communicating. the server shows its tracking data, but nothing writes when i push the hotkey. this may be a simple fix, maybe not. anything helps. i would like to change it to a menu in order to be able to add a keybind to the settings if that makes this more simple.

[ocean kernel]

Since you appear to be logging the data serverside, how are you sending it to the player?

[red cedar]

Grok

[scarlet perch]

Is it possible to access locked entities via script and change properties? I am trying to create a script that turns off all street lamps within a certain radius, but it doesn't seem to work.

I might be doing things wrong, but I wanted to check if it's even possible

[willow flame]

playercontroller called from onupdate with addactionlistener pulls up the widget overlay when i have the component added to the gamemode in tools but not when online

[remote oar]

Which class type has inherited behavior of a unit versus being a skeleton or template? Like how CAMan != Man

B_NATO_F was just a rifleman I believe but had things like the uniformClass primaryWeapon uniformItems array list vestItems, etc but inherited functionality from the Man class.

Basically my question is: which base class can I make soft modifications to have a global affect on all units

Iirc we don’t need a signed mod for game data modification through enforce scripts now right?

[torn bane]

Locally for each client yes. Via their entity IDs. Or finding them via world query

[scarlet perch]

Perfect that's what I try to do. Doesn't work yet, but at least I know it's possible. Gonna keep trying

[lean moth]

Someone actually just made this if you’re making it out of necessity

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/694CE0FB7F32BBBE-Tribesman-GMLightsOff

[willow flame]

resolved the issue

[scarlet perch]

Is it possible to script regular lights and lamps too?

For example I copied the ceiling lamp from the villa on Kolguyev which has lighting built in. I can access the LightEntity via script and turn it on/off, but the emissive texture of the lamp mesh stays lit, obviously.

How does Bohemia do this? Does the emissive texture act like a StreetLampComponent and automatically turn emissive when it's dark? I found nothing in the components that would suggest any way to control it.

The lamp prefab is completely identical to the regular, non-lit version: except for the texture being a "_on" version, which is emissive at night, but not during day.

I want to be able to turn lights on and off inside a building.

[fickle widget]

interesting question. i think i just replaced the lamp with the on/off state in breaking contact (attached to truck)

[tulip sun]

Hi everyone. I need some help with my vehicle. My vehicle has 2 rear passenger seats and one gunner station on the M2. The gunner station has a hatch that I animated using .siga and .pap files, and I added the action to the vehicle to open it. I would like to know if it is possible to make the 'switch seat' action appear for the two rear seats to move to the gunner position only if the hatch is open

[copper wyvern]

use or create a override for
SCR_SwitchLightUserAction (ActionsManager)
vanilla example
{2CB0AA2A87842C18}Prefabs/Props/Civilian/LampKerosene_01/LampKerosene_01_military_USSR.et

[scarlet perch]

Those are for the InteractiveLights though? I am talking about the chandeliers-type ceiling lights in the villa of Kolguyev, as an example. Those aren't player-interactive

[river imp]

That doesn't matter, the only reason the light is "interactive" is because something makes it interactive. I.E. a component

ParametricMaterialInstanceComponent allows changing the emissive at runtime.

Which is what the "interactive" lights use.

[fringe prairie]

Are scripts cached anywhere in workbench for a project? Deleted the scripts folder after hours of troubleshooting a crash, restarting computer, etc. To find out the crash happens with the scripts folder removed from the addon. I need to nuke it from orbit.

[craggy jolt]

        Resource holder = BaseContainerTools.LoadContainer(m_sCommandingMapMenuConfigPath);
        if (!holder || !holder.IsValid())
            return;

        BaseContainer container = holder.GetResource().ToBaseContainer();

This is a typical pattern of ResourceName->BaseContainer aquisition I see in vanilla scripts, I assume its not worth it checking if GetResource() or ToBaseContainer() is null and its guaranteed that you'll have these if you have valid Resource, right?

[amber moat]

Happened to me as well

I had to publish a new mod

Have u deleted the rdb file?

And re tried ?

[scarlet perch]

Another issue: I wrote a custom ScriptedUserAction that I use in the ActionManagerComponent to trigger my script (turning steet lamps off in x radius). It works when I walk up and interact.

When in GM mode, I can see the interaction and it shows up correctly when right clicking. However it doesn't execute the PerformAction() method.

What do I need to do to the ScriptedUserAction so I can interact via GM?

[amber moat]

i might be wrong, but gm is not a player, he basically acts as the server.

when u enter gm mode

so youll need some wiring for that too

[ivory cobalt]

hey big ask im sure I can do it myself but has anyone got doppler effect working as a sound for engines etc yet?

saw some talk from a few years ago in audio figured worth shot to poke here too

[amber moat]

compute relativeVel = (planeVel - listenerVel) · (listener-to-plane direction) per frame, derive a pitch ratio, push it as a new signal into SignalsManager and add a Doppler curve to each loop in the .acp.

or check for vanilla flags (I did not find it)

[brazen sphinx]

GM is a player's role with special permissions, like - to open the editor screen.
Usually from GM you access not ScriptedUserAction but a child of SCR_BaseContextAction.
Do I get it right, that your lamp has the ActionManagerComponent with ScriptedUserAction and that action is accessible from GM? Just out of curiosity - have you tried to run this action from GM when your actual character stands near that lamp?

[ivory cobalt]

Thanks man amazing ❤️

[amber moat]

but why then if i set entities non player visible, they are not visible for clients, but server (and gm) see the entity (live dedi)

imean server ok, but gm?

sorry if its a dumb question, itssomething i just observerd never digged

[brazen sphinx]

wait, what do you mean by 'server see the entity'? Server admin or the actual dedicated server process?

it's not dumb, just naming things is hard

[latent elbow]

Let me know if you get this working, its something i could never figure out if it was possible on the audio graph without writing a custom script. i dont remember ever seeing a Doppler curve/pitch manipulation node.

[amber moat]

example, i have a server owned entity, a plane, earlier during development i did some testing, and by mistake i set it as only server visible (maybe streaming settings, cant remember) (non visible for clients). when i then tested it in a live server when i was in gm camera, i could see the plane perfectly, but as player i couldnt (which i guess for normal client players is correct) thats why my question. and why i thought when switching to gm u act like server.

which could be 100% wrong

but tl;dr i set a entity only server visible, and i u are a player client, and switch to gm, u see it

[ivory cobalt]

I heard a drone video the other day and my engine sim for shahed sounded identical minus the doppler really got my wanting to get it good

[latent elbow]

i feel you, i have my jet audio set up sounding real nice but its just missing that doppler effect xD

[ivory cobalt]

lets collab 😄 send me a dm

my shahed flight physics are pretty solid in peer now to. just need to replicate for real plane but anims everythign working nice 🙂

[brazen sphinx]

you mean this?

[amber moat]

no no

wait

[brazen sphinx]

or you're setting up flags in scripts?

[amber moat]

no in this case i used .et editor

like normal components setup

let me find it

GhostNetwork/Prefabs/Vehicles/Aircraft/GHOST_C17.et starts with bare Vehicle { — no parent prefab inheritance. Every vanilla boardable vehicle (Mi8, UH1H, M923 …) inherits from Prefabs/Vehicles/Core/Vehicle_Base.et, which provides a properly-configured RplComponent. I did not.

The C-17's RplComponent was an empty {} block, which defaults to a static / editor-placed replication mode:

• GM camera uses a different streaming policy (or idk) it sees the entity
• Normal player client streaming filters it out as if it were a never-placed editor entity so invisible

And the streaming layer never registers a dynamically-spawned vehicle that isn't already in the streaming DB, so even with the right "Rpl State Override" the entity gets gated by PVS/distance and never reaches clients.

i fixed it but just curious how gm camera sees it if its client controlled???

when i am literaly not streaming it to clients

i also set Streamable Disabled later on so i can spawn it kilometers from world bounds

[scarlet perch]

This is how my entity is set up. TTT_ToggleLight is my "ScriptedUserAction" script that searches for all streetlamps and destroys them.

It works fine when I walk up as a player and interact.

When i am in GM, I can see the interaction and click it, but nothing happens. It never executes the "PerformAction" method. It does however call the "CanPePerformed" method when hovering over it or clicking it.

[latent elbow]

"searches for all streetlamps and destroys them." From the player? from the street lamp thats being toggled? or is that a custom switch prefab that gets lamps around it?

[scarlet perch]

From the pOwnerEntity which I assume is the entity that the ActionManagerComponent is attached to (in this case the electrical switch thingie in the picture). Just for clarification, when using GM it does not even go into the PerformAction method because the debug message is never printed to the console.

[latent elbow]

enable your rpl component

[scarlet perch]

THAT IS IT! WORKS NOW. Holy shut I am stupid, I didn't see that 😭

[tulip sun]

Hi everyone. I need some help with my vehicle. My vehicle has 2 rear passenger seats and one gunner station on the M2. The gunner station has a hatch that I animated using .siga and .pap files, and I added the action to the vehicle to open it. I would like to know if it is possible to make the 'switch seat' action appear for the two rear seats to move to the gunner position only if the hatch is open. Is it possible? Thanks in advance to those who will help me.

[pliant ingot]

Who is this genius who forbade variables in methods and in classes to have the same names?

[coarse bane]

Is anyone having issues with the scr_spinningwidgetcomponent and scr_scenariouicommon? The error message only shows question marks.

[coral matrix]

😀

[coarse bane]

Just to clarify, these are scripts from the game itself

[fringe prairie]

I have coined this the evil compile bug

[pliant ingot]

Good changes, it just crash in process of fixing this stupid error... 15d52fe8-9d5e-45fc-adbf-433656edfd61

[plush tendon]

CodeTerrorist

[ocean kernel]

Can I use singletons to create bootleg namespaces

[opaque sand]

im having same issues not sure what to do with it

[dusk pollen]

Anyone know if you can have an AI placed in world editor or whatever entity but have it disabled upon game start but then have it enabled (spawned) via a script?
I don't want to spawn an entity because there are various properties that need to be set so instead i want to enable/disable an entity.

[restive island]

why not just spawn them in via script, what are the properties scripting cannot set?

[pliant ingot]

error: Unknown type 'SCR_AutotestCaseBase'

💀

[pliant ingot]

PS Someone broke (or it was broken all time) copy error option...

It returns:

scripts/Autotest/Game/TestFramework/SCR_AutotestHarness.c(218): warning: 

Or random garbage in error text, looks like someone miss with string pointer in formatter xD

scripts/Game/Editor/Components/EditableEntity/SCR_EditableEntityComponent.c(786): warning: �b,�

[pliant ingot]

... who the f*ck need to write in changelog that there is new autotest script module...

[dusk pollen]

various scenario framework properties and QRF stuff set on the AI area entity

[proven beacon]

Is this where all the cool kids hang out.

[pliant ingot]

Test `V30_...` did not set result after all main steps completed.

Someone forgot to set first successfull result inside AssertTrue...

Find Symbol is broken... sometimes it can't find symbol whose code I'm literally looking at in script editor.

https://klipy.com/gifs/bober-aaaa

[red cedar]

Have you thought about asking chatgpt?

[pliant ingot]

Ask chatgpt about who broke thing in script editor?

[red cedar]

Hmm

Gemini then?

I'm just spitballing idea to push you to the next level

[pliant ingot]

Why it can't find TestBase which is vanilla class?

[proven beacon]

@pliant ingot what is the issue maybe I can get an answer for you

I'll research this — Vlad is hitting issues with BI's autotest framework after the 1.7.0.41 update. Let me check what
classes exist in the new docs.

SCR_AutotestCaseBase exists in 1.7.0.41. Let me check its inheritance and look for TestBase.

[pliant ingot]

WTF?

[proven beacon]

who codes?

lol

[pliant ingot]

BIS

[proven beacon]

thats so 2025

1 sec.

[red cedar]

Also quick question but why did you enable match whole world and match case?

Just curious

[ocean kernel]

ChatGPT says to do it

[pliant ingot]

to find exact match for function calling/overriding

[proven beacon]

1. SCR_AutotestCaseBase still exists in 1.7.0.41.
   File path shown by Doxygen: Autotest/Game/TestFramework/SCR_AutotestCaseBase.c. Inherits from native TestBase. If his
   addon now says "Unknown type", BI almost certainly split the autotest framework into its own script module in 1.7
   (matches his "new autotest script module" complaint). He needs to add the autotest module as a script dependency in
   his addon's .gproj / addon config. The class hasn't moved namespaces — only the bin it compiles into.

ill msg you

[red cedar]

Let me ask grok, i always verify the information i receive across multiple sources

[ocean kernel]

Thank you!

[red cedar]

Fair

[proven beacon]

Message sent..

[pliant ingot]

And you are wrong

[proven beacon]

ok

let me double check

[pliant ingot]

Good luck

I solved it

your chatgpt skills too low

[proven beacon]

1. The class HTML page exists in the 1.7 Doxygen ship:

ArmaReforgerScriptAPIPublic\html\interfaceSCR__AutotestCaseBase.html

Page title at line 9 of that file:
<title>Arma Reforger Script API: SCR_AutotestCaseBase Interface Reference</title>

And at the bottom of the same page (line 363-365) Doxygen lists the actual source file:
The documentation for this interface was generated from the following file:
Autotest/Game/TestFramework/SCR_AutotestCaseBase.c

The class is referenced by other public APIs in the same Doxygen — meaning BI's own 1.7 framework still uses it as a public type:

From interfaceSCR__AutotestHarness.html line 143:
static void Begin (notnull SCR_AutotestCaseBase testCase, bool autorun=false, bool verboseLog=false)

SCR_AutotestHarness.Begin(...) takes a SCR_AutotestCaseBase parameter. If the class didn't exist, this signature wouldn't appear in the shipped 1.7 Doxygen.

3. It's in the class hierarchy. From hierarchy.html line 7943-7944:
   TestBase
   └─ SCR_AutotestCaseBase "Base game test class"

4. Four concrete examples ship in the 1.7 Doxygen extending it (visible in the inheritance map of the class page):

• SCR_TEST_Example1Subject_Counter_CountsToFive
• SCR_TEST_Example1Subject_GetFive_ReturnsFive
• SCR_TEST_Example1Subject_NoResultExample
• SCR_TEST_Example1Subject_TimeoutExample

All four exist as their own Doxygen interface pages under interfaceSCR__TEST__Example1Subject__*.html.

What this means practically: BI's 1.7.0.41 Tools ship publicly documents the class as existing, with a known source path of Autotest/Game/TestFramework/SCR_AutotestCaseBase.c. If Vlad's
compiler says "Unknown type", his addon isn't pulling in the script bin that compiles that path. In 1.7 BI seems to have moved autotest into its own module (which Vlad noticed). He needs to
add the autotest addon as a script dependency. Same way ArmaReforger/Game was a dependency in 1.6 — except now there's a separate autotest module that has to be listed.

Ask him to paste his addon's dependency list (.gproj dependencies block) — that's almost certainly where it's missing.

[pliant ingot]

Man...

You're just an idiot trying to be cool.

[proven beacon]

its fine..

explain more and maybe I can help more.

[pliant ingot]

#enfusion_scripting message

You're not even close to solution

[proven beacon]

1 sec

let me pivot.. sorry.. im living in reforger world these days

[red cedar]

Is this a skit?

Am i missing the joke?

[proven beacon]

I shot you over another message. not sure if it helps.. but I tried..

[pliant ingot]

Man pls stop spamming

I have already solved everything, and you are not even close

[proven beacon]

I offered to track down the information for you and send it over. Sorry for trying.

@pliant ingot you building anything cool in Enfusion engine? What stuff are you working on

sorry, i dont frequent here much. Just trying to get into the community chats more :/

[ocean kernel]

Blindly copy pasting things between here and chatgpt will not get you bonus points lol

[proven beacon]

Sorry, i have spent a lot of time on documenting reforger , engine and api bugs for my project so was just trying to help.

[red cedar]

Please stop ragebaiting

[proven beacon]

I was going to put together my bug list for BI but honestly it seems like a lot of attitude around here

Was just trying to help.

[red cedar]

Honestly 9/10 ragebait. I fell for it

[ocean kernel]

How dare you get upset when I pour garbage in front of your face. It's free garbage. You should be happy you are getting free garbage!

[proven beacon]

But serious, if you guys do have questions just ping me on discord, i can always try to help.

[red cedar]

Yeah sure i'll keep that in mind

[red cedar]

😭😭😭

[proven beacon]

Sorry for pasting in some information. I was just using my local resources to help out. Next time I'll use personal chat more. Apologies.

[ocean kernel]

Seems like there is a lot of attitude around here. Arma modders always gatekeep...

[proven beacon]

I hope to share some information. Thats why I'm here. Just trying out new things, new ideas, iterating over and over trying to find out how stuff works.

[ocean kernel]

Can you make me an Arma Reforger themed cookies recipe

[proven beacon]

no but im almost done with my single mod a3 wasteland remake

[ocean kernel]

Please

[proven beacon]

im close..

cookies. .ill try

ill put bacon cookies in the mod for yah.. 😉

question: what channel is the best for Just Reforger scripting/modding. is there another that most people chat in to discuss code etc?

[red cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1310912166005575680/1356792662358753350/watermark.gif

[proven beacon]

or is it just a mashup of all enfusion programmers together

[red cedar]

Don't confuse programmer and vibecoder please

It's like confusing an oven for a microwave

[proven beacon]

Ooh you're one of those

[red cedar]

I am

[proven beacon]

i see

are you still waterfall programming

going for perfection..

[opaque sand]

any ideas on how to fix this or do i just wait for bi

[proven beacon]

So much hate for the AI

[ocean kernel]

Depends on how good the cookie recipes are

[proven beacon]

They are okay cookies. Not the best.. Not perfect like a chef will make... but we have lots of cookies to eat. All sorts of cookies , fun cookies.. but if you want perfect cookies you may want to check with the others in this chat I guess.

[clever marlin]

this has been a fantastic read

excuse me while i go attempt to suck start my shotgun

[minor agate]

Things under doxygen define are for doxygen example docs

[pliant ingot]

I have same with TestBase class, which isn't doxygen related

But now I can't repeat it

[minor agate]

You are right

[clever marlin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/justin-word-oh-really-wow-QUENDfi6DEMLzQ0CKt

[minor agate]

Its on its own module now. So if you have it in game before then it wont work

But i am not sure if that is the case 1.7. But thats direction autotest is taking

Reason for that is that we do not want autotest classes to clutter game module

And cause issues with compilation, and autocompletion and the likes

[clever oxide]

I got this Tuple2 error because i used file overrided gamemode, however its never used Tuple2. When i copied BI changes to my file this error gone.

[opaque sand]

what changes from bi

[clever oxide]

i think Tuple2 class scripts not loaded because you have other error. I got 47 script error but needed fix only first 6 and all ok

[proven beacon]

@opaque sand any errors before that in the WB ?

[opaque sand]

no updated tools and got these errors

[clever oxide]

What changed on visualization in WB? i see new _WB_GetAfterWorldUpdateSpecs thing, and added to my code but _WB_AfterWorldUpdate never runs.
Do i need enable visualization or debug in WB somewhere for it?

#ifdef WORKBENCH
  override int _WB_GetAfterWorldUpdateSpecs(IEntity owner, IEntitySource src)
  {
      return EEntityFrameUpdateSpecs.CALL_WHEN_ENTITY_VISIBLE;
  }
  
  override void _WB_AfterWorldUpdate(IEntity owner, float timeSlice)
  {
    // this never runs
  }
#endif

[fervent dawn]

if you guys have your own custom systems, just adding in systems conf is not good enough. Need to register using:

override static void InitInfo(WorldSystemInfo outInfo)
    {
        outInfo
            .SetAbstract(false)
            .SetLocation(WorldSystemLocation.Server)
            .AddPoint(WorldSystemPoint.PostFrame);
    }

I was kicking myself in the nuts over why this thing wasn't being detected...

Also my mod's toxic players killing eachother in spawn because our customized spawn protection system was no longer working

[storm shore]

Removed: SetActionDuration removed. Configure it via config only
Sorry to interrupt, but I presume this means I can no longer dynamically set the duration of a userAction, or is there another way that isn't hardcoded in a config?

[torn bane]

Yes user actions were fully moved to prefab data to save a lot of memory

[clever marlin]

@minor agate idk if peer tool launch delay was in the works or if it was added from that thread i requested it in but thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

[river imp]

Too bad peertool just doesn't work anymore.

[clever marlin]

did u complete the right of passage ritual? download server. open game close game open tools?

[sterile nymph]

Could today's update have removed a mode script when opening Workbench, or am I just imagining things?

[restive island]

are you referring to the setting in Edit prefab.et > SCR_ActionsManagerComponent?

[fringe prairie]

the rite of passage is deleting all mods from addons to avoid peer tool script mismatch, because workbench/peers don't listen to startup params

[red cedar]

wasn't 1.7 supposed to be the magical update that would bring performance and stability to refrogger ?

they did do a cool trailer tho so i guess it's okay

[restive island]

It's not 1.6 nor 1.7, it's 1.67

[river imp]

Uh no

They do and have for literal years.

Unless that's specifically something that 1.7 broke.

[red cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-wilde-zootopia-nick-wilde-dancing-gif-16098522368647277514

67

!!!

[fringe prairie]

They seem to ignore -addonsDir when you have one dir used for development, and another dir used for normal gameplay

[river imp]

no

[restive island]

My AF Tools start up:

[river imp]

It prioritizes the game addon directory

[fringe prairie]

savior

[restive island]

my addons is also under the D:\ location in picture

This is for Arma Reforger game:

[river imp]

Just don't have a downloaded copy of the mod in your game addon folder and you won't get mismatch errors.

[fringe prairie]

I have just had issues with mygames folder being unkillable regardless of how I set my options, maybe it is a skill issue after all, but I am very much aware of how they should work, and have seen it not work because you can load a mod from one directory with mods from another directory in the workbench itself, while peers do not seem to like that

[river imp]

This

[restive island]

yes try my methods above for Tools and the Game, they remove them from Documents/My Games/ which OneDrive loves to sync

[river imp]

That is redundant.

Those are the default locations...

[restive island]

incorrect, look at the drive path

[river imp]

Redundant for him, unless he specifically has them somewhere other than the default location.

[fringe prairie]

Had one, until the game decided mods I deleted were not deleted and couldn't update or clear anything

[restive island]

What are you talking about? Those params change the default location for the game and WB files so it never touches the OneDrive linked /My Games/

[river imp]

Requiring him to move all of his files right?

[fringe prairie]

personally have had few issues with one drive, but digress - I reported an issue a while back and wondering if anyone wants to help repro - game crashes when a turret that worked in 1.6 is spawned

[restive island]

correct. Drag and drop

[river imp]

Sounds like a way more effort than simply deleting a single mod from the games addon folder.

[restive island]

I had this same issue with the default location, along with WB pauses and crashes:

[zenith pilot]

Quick question if i wonna create a trigger and set it radius and i wonna show that radius in debug view in editor how can i do that ?

[zenith pilot]

Also is it possible to show debug shpere in the view after the game has started ?

[clever marlin]

@river imp try removing -nobackend if you use it

[river imp]

Thanks for telling me what I just told you.

[solid hearth]

I used this as I modify building disassembly time based on x condition. Just override and do what you need to do.

event float GetActionProgressScript(float fProgress, float timeSlice);

[past sequoia]

Hi all i have a problem that has just popped up tonight and i have never had before i get the following error on my script componet -

SCRIPT : SCRIPT : Compiling Game scripts
INIT : Workbench Create Game
SCRIPT : Compiling Game scripts
SCRIPT (E): @"Scripts/Game/LGTW/AI/LGTW_CounterAttackVehicleSpawnComponent.c,1": Unknown code
SCRIPT (E): @"Scripts/Game/LGTW/AI/LGTW_CounterAttackVehicleSpawnComponent.c,2": Broken expression (missing ';'?)
SCRIPT (E): @"Scripts/Game/LGTW/AI/LGTW_CounterAttackVehicleSpawnComponent.c,2": Broken expression (missing ';'?)
SCRIPT (E): Can't compile "Game" script module!

Scripts/Game/LGTW/AI/LGTW_CounterAttackVehicleSpawnComponent.c(1): Unknown code
SCRIPT (W): Failed to load
PROFILING : Compiling Game scripts took: 465.858100 ms
ENGINE (E): Unable to initialize a game/gamelib. Some workbench features will not work.
SCRIPT (W): Initializing default GameLib's game class.
INIT : Creating game instance(Game), version 1.7.0.41 built 2026-05-11 20:04:25 UTC.
ENGINE : Game successfully created.
PROFILING : Workbench Create Game took: 633.247300 ms
DEFAULT : Using thumbnail cache directory: C:/Users/tyler/AppData/Local/Temp/Arma Reforger Workbench/Projects/LetsGoToWarPVEFramework/thumbnails
BACKEND : Attempting online Game Config instead.
DEFAULT : Using autosave directory: C:/Users/tyler/AppData/Local/Temp/Arma Reforger Workbench/Projects/LetsGoToWarPVEFramework/autosaves
PROFILING : Workbench startup took: 6966.654200 ms
DEFAULT : Checking pending workshop invites...

[past sequoia]

Disregard my post everyone i had another file that was incomplete

[latent elbow]

On your trigger entity select draw shape

[boreal swan]

How do I "drag a Layer" and "drop it on the area in the Hierarchy panel in order to have it as a child entity of the area"?

[lean moth]

I think you may be misreading something here. I believe this exact stuff is from a BIKI guide?

Those layers will not go onto an entity, it is the other way around. Only other entities can become children.

[boreal swan]

Yeah, it's BIKI stuff

[lean moth]

Ah, it does say Layer. That is going to be a prefab in your resource browser. The yellow/blue/red layers are organizational hierarchies for world builder. Look for layer.et

[boreal swan]

Oh lol, I just realized that as well 😂 Was very confused for a moment! Thanks 😄

[rose coral]

I'm working on a script based addon. Is there a way to make my addon wait for the game to load and settle before initializing?

I just don't want to pound the server as it's trying to start.

I could have sworn I've seen it done, but can't recall where and my google fu is weak apparently.

[storm bobcat]

@gleaming lily
Dont mean to @ you normally, and I am not sure where to report this. This will be affecting vanilla gameplay. I am hearing that players will disconnect when killed by FIA in order to prevent them from scavenging their gear.

[restive island]

i think you mean @minor agate

[clever marlin]

honestly i dont think this is the right approach either way. try https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/66/

[minor agate]

I am not even the one to report AR gameplay issues 😅 . I don't work directly on AR on those things

use feedback tracker please

[clever oxide]

WB Events

[hollow oak]

howdy folks!
Quick question here. Seems like my WB has been corrupted somehow.
It shows errors like this.

Is there a way to fix it? thanks in advance

It marks AudioSystem.PlaySound as unknown method 😮

and also

since when they are unrelated?

[torn bane]

We have made some first round of changes to serialization contexts, and 1.8 will include another big refactor to offer more features at less runtime cost and less code. Ideally in your code you only want to refer to Save/LoadContext as well as the concrete types such as JsonLoadContext

[hollow oak]

oof. No backward compatibility then =((((

each time you guys release updates I need to deal with depression 😄

[torn bane]

We have provided a full file in the release to make it as backwards compatible as possible. If it does not work for you then you were probably referencing things by more or less internal types which should not have been used in the first place.

[hollow oak]

thank you! I'll take a look

Hopefully I'm not using serialization widely

I'm wondering what's wrong with AudioSystem.Playsound method

[hollow oak]

thanks!
so I have basically changed BaseJsonSerializationSaveContainer to JsonSaveContainer

        //BaseJsonSerializationSaveContainer jsonContainer; // commented this
        JsonSaveContainer jsonContainer = new JsonSaveContainer();

Hope it will do the thing

But I still don't get why I can't use AudioSystem.PlaySound in CallLater function anymore =(((((

[torn bane]

You do not and should not manually setup any containers, use the full preset contexts. Containers are removed in the next big version. Json/Binary/Script-Save/Load-Context will remain.

[hollow oak]

How do I need to save things into json then?

[torn bane]

JsonSaveContext context(); context.Write(xxx); context.SaveToString()

[hollow oak]

thanks! will take a look.

yep, in Load I'm using

            SCR_JsonLoadContext reader();
            reader.LoadFromFile("$profile:/Kuzma/globals.json");
             reader.ReadValue("", g);

[pliant ingot]

HOW???

class MyClass {
    protected int value;

    static void F() {
        auto value = new MyClass();
        value.value = 0;
    };
};

scripts/Game/MyScript.c(6): error: Trying to access non-static member 'value' from static method 'F'

[red cedar]

Are jsonapistruct still a no-go?

They're the most convenient and elegant way of serializing object

[torn bane]

Definetly not, they rely on a fixed structure and you have to manually set it up. Also it does not support all variables types. Save/Load context automagically supports writing whole object hierarchies with polymorphic collection types, skipping default values to keep the json slim etc.

[red cedar]

🥺

[torn bane]

Your local variable value is colliding with the class one. Member variables should be prefixed by m_ to avoid this. We do not do it out of boredom in vanilla scripts.

[pliant ingot]

Want to force this naming style? Then simply throw an error about a missing prefix in the variable declaration and not random error of some name collide when every other language allow this

[torn bane]

No we do not force anything, but you can not expect ambiguity to work.

[pliant ingot]

it's not ambiguity, we have this

[torn bane]

That would allow you to explicitly favor a class member over a local variable, but you named the instance of the class the same as the local variable and then the class member is also the same. this will not help you

[hollow oak]

conventions are conventions

[pliant ingot]

if I want access class member instead of local variable then I use this its helps

[hollow oak]

In script editor im not getting a single error. But in Main workbench log it says:
Types 'KUZ_ScenesEntry' and 'KUZ_Task' are unrelated for the code below:

    KUZ_Task GetTaskByTitle(string title)
    {
        foreach (KUZ_Task task : m_Tasks)
        {
            if (task.m_sTaskName == title)
                return task.GetTask();
        }
        
        return null;
    }

GetTask is a function from KUZ_Task:

    KUZ_Task GetTask()
    {
        return this;
    }

And as I said, no errors in script editor.

And I can't load my world because of instant crashing =(((

sorry for annoying questions, but could someone point me where to find a solid tutorial on how to detect crash reason of Workbench?
thank you in advance

ps. I've been working on my mod for more than a year. So it makes me really sad that a single update can ruin the whole work 🙁

[pliant ingot]

press send and copy and ping some bi devs here with provided id)

[hollow oak]

thanks!

[pliant ingot]

for example: #enfusion_scripting message

[hollow oak]

oh! cool, thanks!

[pliant ingot]

probably need cast inside GetTask

need more code to figure out

[hollow oak]

it's very strange though

Script editor throws no errors

[storm bobcat]

Regarding the issue that vlad pointed out, it seems to me the engine is either confusing contexts or is performing a Class vs. Static scope check too early.
Im not sure whether the scope check is performed on value. or .value, but it is out of order somehow.

class MyClass {
    protected int value;

    static void F() {
        auto value = new MyClass();
        // value. is in local scope
        // .value is in instance/object scope

        // value. should match first with local scope, not Class vs. Static scope. I am guessing it incorrectly prechecks here
        // .value should use the instance/object scope, so it shouldn't even perform a static/class check.
        value.value = 0;
    };
};

@pliant ingot Does this only happen when using auto value = ...? or does it happen when using MyClass value = ... also?

I wouldn't be surprised if the auto type somehow causes the engine to skip or misorder the scope checks.

[pliant ingot]

Doesn't matter, problem in thing introduced in language with 1.7, so function arguments/variables and class members can't have same name

[hollow oak]

yeah. The crashing reason is all about Types 'KUZ_ScenesEntry' and 'KUZ_Task' are unrelated

but I don't get what's wrong with this code =(((

Also, after the recent update I can't use GetGame().GetCallqueue().CallLater with AudioSystem.PlaySound anymore

[storm bobcat]

There is an issue here, but after thinking about it... You would only run into this issue if you are naming your variables poorly.

In the given example, i would have this clear naming convention:

MyClass parentMyClass = new MyClass();
MyClass childMyClass = parentMyClass.myClass;

You found an engine issue, but its easily fixed by renaming your variables OR avoided by naming your variables well the first time.

[pliant ingot]

I encountered this issue again, now for basic string type

[hollow oak]

hm, I could just return task without the GetTask func..

One problem less 🙂

Now only CallLater with PlaySound error remains

[ocean kernel]

Bro's screenshot is only missing comic sans to be super cursed

[restive island]

i dunno if it's the issue bc you didnt provide the line numbers, but seeing there's name conflicts in 1.7: WB might throw a fit at lines 27 and 88 (KUZ_ScenesEntry)

[hollow oak]

sorry! I've changed it already. I could just return task without using GetTask here

and now there is a new problem =(((((

Reason: Failed move from <3827.89,4.36141,1435.78> to waypoint <3826.46,3.054,1445.15>

<0x00000290EA8EA130> SCR_AIGroup : AI/BehaviorTrees/Chimera/Group/ActivityMove.bt
AI/BehaviorTrees/Chimera/Group/MoveToLocation.bt (RunBT : ID 21) 
AI/BehaviorTrees/Chimera/Group/Group.bt
 (RunBT : ID 18) 

AI/BehaviorTrees/Chimera/Group/MoveToLocation.bt
SCR_AI Process Failed Movement Result : ID 25

Function: 'NodeError'
Stack trace:
Scripts/Game/AI/Utils/NodeError.c:8 Function NodeError
Scripts/Game/AI/ScriptedNodes/Groups/SCR_AIProcessFailedMovementResult.c:228 Function NodeErrorOnce
Scripts/Game/AI/ScriptedNodes/Groups/SCR_AIProcessFailedMovementResult.c:99 Function EOnTaskSimulate

Scientists have confirmed that every new Reforger update takes 10 years off your life

(but fps became much much better tbh)

[trim aurora]

People in the terrain channel who had this error, did not have their navmesh setup correctly

[hollow oak]

oh thanks! It used to work well before 🙁

upd. all navmeshes are gone! 😮. Regeneration is needed

[jovial umbra]

does anyone know how to find the actual thingy

im making a new project

and for the life of me i can't find it in script editor

i cant find the folder to make a new script in

[trim aurora]

The message does not really say more.
But basically, regenerate the navmesh make sure they are set in the SCR_AIWorld and it should work.
#enfusion_terrain message

[hollow oak]

Yep! Sorry for deleting the previous message. I've just found out that I didn't save my generated navmeshes
thank you anyway!

[restive island]

Open it via resource browser, or Projects in script editor

[boreal swan]

After struggling with the modding tools for the whole day, I finally managed to create a scripted test action that works

[restive island]

how do we launch game from WB to see our new code and test it without needing to restart the game? Mario mentioned this is possible, is it just starting the debug version of the game?

[hollow oak]

I thought I managed to fix all issues. But then I've added a single line, just Print() into scripts, and now, each script reloading ends with crash

[restive island]

Print() cannot be null IIRC

Put in like Print("\n");

[hollow oak]

I know. I did

I even removed this Print line from the code, but it still crashing

[restive island]

what does the crash error say in the console output

not those logs

[hollow oak]

which one you are asking about?

[restive island]

Or here in number 3

[hollow oak]

I couldn't catch it, because wb is being crashed

maybe some memory issue

[hollow oak]

nothing here. Crash happens only when I reloading scripts, while my world is loaded

[restive island]

oh i see what you mean, it just crashes the whole WB

[pliant ingot]

Run diag exe with -debuggerPort 1234, open Script Editor, in top menu open Debug/Debug Custom, enter port and now you can use breakpoints, watch, logs, remote console...

[hollow oak]

I have this, but I just ignore it

[restive island]

Load WB and only load the scripts, force a validate and reload. If it isnt crashing, it might be the world? That assertion error comes up for me every now and then and i dunno what for

[hollow oak]

nope. It compiles ok

and I tried to compile while world is loaded. And it allowed me to compile once 🙂

I guess it's an OOM issue, probably

[restive island]

my droog, the solution is simple: cast WB back to the land of crystals 😄 Not sure what it could be, especially if it recompiled OK

[hollow oak]

thanks anyway!

[restive island]

You could ask Arkensor or MarioE when they're around, might be a new bug?

[jovial umbra]

i dont... see it

its

where is it???

[latent elbow]

this pops up for me everytime i reload scripts with a world open, its somewhat annoying but harmless just click retry.

[jovial umbra]

my stuff is in resource browser

[hollow oak]

yep. I usually ignore it

[jovial umbra]

but it doesnt show up in projects in the script editor

[restive island]

from the World Editor menu, or within Script Editor in one of the left window tabs. Your_Mod/scripts/GameCode/ is the directory the game will watch

[hollow oak]

but maybe after the recent update OOM issue became more important

[jovial umbra]

do i have to make the folder myself?

in file explorer

[restive island]

you can make it inside Workbench in the resource browser

[jovial umbra]

okay i've made the directory

but

[restive island]

they also need to automatically add the stupid "PLACEHOLDER" image by default instead of having us manually add it in EDIT: created https://feedback.bistudio.com/T199574

[jovial umbra]

SE still doesn't recognize it

[restive island]

take a screenshot of it in resource browser

[jovial umbra]

it should be called ace_medical_temperature

[restive island]

You're trying to make a new .c file for that mod, and using the mod as a dependency?

[pliant ingot]

game and gamecode - are different modules

open gamecode

[jovial umbra]

im making a new mod called ace_medical_temperature which uses the other ace stuff as a dependency

[pliant ingot]

not game

[jovial umbra]

whats the difference between game and gamecode?

[restive island]

GameCode holds the actual .c scripts you are creating

[jovial umbra]

so should the folder be called game or gamecode

[hollow oak]

@minor agate sorry for disturbing, but if possible, could you please provide some info regarding this crash. Thanks in advance! 4b07244b-64a6-4c93-a9fa-63e0df032eb3

[jovial umbra]

im really sorry im not the brightest

[restive island]

GameCode. The Game folder is for other items

[jovial umbra]

okay

how do i create a new script in the gamecode folder

as currently it still doesn't show up in SE

[restive island]

open GameCode/ and right click > new .c file or whatever the option is

[jovial umbra]

and this has to be done in a file explorer???

[restive island]

no, workbench resource browser is fine

[jovial umbra]

theres no create new c file though 😭

[hollow oak]

click on free space in resourse browser

[jovial umbra]

OH

okay

thank you

[hollow oak]

and script

[jovial umbra]

i have made a script

oh jesus christ this was the first step

[hollow oak]

it's ok. You just need to get used to the new IDE

[restive island]

do you know OOP like C++/Java

[jovial umbra]

java yes

[restive island]

ok, was about to say need to pour some wine or bourbon and start learning 😄

[hollow oak]

It was not easy for me to switch from GoLand to this

[jovial umbra]

tysm for helping couldnt find a single useful piece of documentation or a tutorial 😭

[restive island]

you didnt watch the bootcamp?

theyre on YT, itll show you general use of WB including SE

[latent elbow]

+1 for the bootcamp, great way to start learning

[jovial umbra]

gotchu

i just didnt see a tutorial for like scripting specifically

[hollow oak]

ok, it keeps crashing just too much for me in different ways. I hope devs will deploy a hotfix soon

[restive island]

so enfusion script is like a mix of c++ and java, not everything in those languages will carry over directly

[hollow oak]

Attributes make it looks more like C#

[restive island]

second bootcamp video i think, and the Rpl ones, and the Wiki: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Arma_Reforger/Modding/Scripting

Use this for very basics: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Scripting_First_Steps

[hollow oak]

I load my world. It's being loaded just fine. Right after this I'm trying to load it again - and it crashes 😮

[pliant ingot]

afaik, Game for universal for any project gameplay scripts (in threory at least), GameCode for scripts that shoudn't be used outside current project (project = game, so reforger specificly)

[restive island]

Load a different world and see if it still crashes?

[latent elbow]

Check your workbench log folder for any errors before it crashes

[jovial umbra]

im just... gonna put it in game

thanks for your input

[hollow oak]

yep. Just tried to load Cain twice. On the second try there was crash

most errors I have are like
Wrong GUID/name for resource @"{536BF67B2052B869}material/metal.gamemat" in property "UTM_CityMap"
but i don't think that it's the reason

[hollow oak]

Haven't found anything 🙁

[pliant ingot]

yeah, 99% its should be in Game

[hollow oak]

Cain crashes too. And other worlds as well 🙁

And I suppose that the root issue of script crashing, is somehow related with reloading the world

[latent elbow]

do you have mods loaded or is this vanilla?

[hollow oak]

only mine

[river imp]

Iirc, Game and GameCode are the same.

[latent elbow]

load vanilla without any mods and see if it loads without crashing

[hollow oak]

Checked. Nope, vanilla doesn't crash

[latent elbow]

Then something in your mod is causing your wb to crash. do you have custom scripts? specifically code that runs OnPostInit?

[pliant ingot]

module is same (at least now), but logically: #enfusion_scripting message

[hollow oak]

oh, I have a lot of custom scripts. But I will check if I'm triggering OnPostInit somewhere. Thanks for a hint!

There's only three times in code I'm triggering OnPostInit

I was able to reload my world three times in a row this time 😄
Before it has been crashed

[river imp]

Them being the same kinda negates any logic lol. Regardless does adding our own work now?

[pliant ingot]

I don't try to add custom modules/pathes/entry points, so can't tell

[jovial umbra]

How do I pull from the character in a script?

like

how do i make it so it takes the character as an input

[river imp]

Last I tried there were compile errors.

[pliant ingot]

I only add to GameLib and now Autotest modules, first one if fail to compile fail to launch entire WB and can't reference code from Game

[hollow oak]

you mean GetGame().GetPlayerController() ?

[jovial umbra]

um

[river imp]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Arma_Reforger/Modding/Scripting

Read the basics of scripting

[restive island]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Directory_Structure#Scripts

[pliant ingot]

it's not "official")

[restive island]

ah i probably got GameCode as being the only mod script directory from this line: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Scripting:_Best_Practices#Files_Organisation

[latent elbow]

Its hard to diagnose without understanding the full context of the system you have built, it may just be a workbench issue but the fact it doesnt crash when you spam reload with no mods makes me think something in your mod is causing the issue. Start by disabling your custom components in your world. But you did mention it did the same thing when loading cain which shouldnt have any of your assets loaded in. Most likely its a gamemode component you have overridden or something similar.

[hollow oak]

Yep, but vanilla worlds are causing crash too

[latent elbow]

with no mods loaded? you said above it was working fine

[hollow oak]

with mod, but loading just a simple vanilla world

emptycain for example

UPD. tried to reload emptyCain for several times. No crashes, yet

I'll try to load my world but completely empty

[latent elbow]

it doesnt matter what world you load, (unless its literally empty) your overridden prefabs will still get loaded in if for example its a gamemode override.

[hollow oak]

reloaded my world with almost empty layer (only some basic things here)
And it works well. Scripts are reloading, world is reloading too. Probably the issue with some corrupted entities 🙁

[hollow oak]

Thank you for your time anyway!

[latent elbow]

you can split your objects into multiple layers then remove them from file explorer one by one to narrow it down. Then just put back in when done

[hollow oak]

yep. I'm trying to add all layers one by one to locate where the problem is

[minor agate]

Both game folder and gamecode folder fall within game module

Game folder is purely scripted

Gamecode folder contains generated scripts from CPP

Both are reforger specific

Gamelib is from.enfusion and it is game agnostic utilities

Core is from enfusion and it is engine utilities

[hollow oak]

CallLater and AudioSystem.PlaySound issue is very annoying =(((

Right after the recent update - it suddenly stopped working 🙁

[minor agate]

Make feedback tracker ticket

[minor agate]

This is wrong lol. See my comments above this one

I think there was confusion on those docs when being written and they meant gamelib instead of game

And game instead of gamecode

[hollow oak]

done!

[restive island]

Sent over to Wiki channel for update/review

[restive island]

Would it be easier to manually increase the fuel level of a gas tank by checking its fuel every 10 seconds and += if its fuel level is less than an amount, or using SCR_ResourceComponent

do not browse the doxygen in a dark room and hit ESC

[river imp]

Why would you need to check it every x seconds

Why not use the script invoker?

Unless the thing you're talking about doesn't use a SCR_FuelManagerComponent

[restive island]

It will regenerate fuel at MOB in a designated depot if its <200g

SCR_ResourceComponent looks uh, like a PITA

[jovial umbra]

Is there any way to check the location of a given entity?

For example the height of a player

[restive island]

yes their vector, it returns <x y z> or the like with GetOrigin() i think

enfusion vector =/= c++ vector

[jovial umbra]

yes! that worked like a xharm

tysm

[jovial umbra]

is there any way to check how bright the ground is?

looking for something that changes as the ground gets brighter/dimmer below the player

or alternatively how illuminated the player is