enfusion_scripting

[neon elbow]

Maybe something like

    Vehicle myFavoriteVariableName = Vehicle.Cast(GetGame().GetWorld().FindEntityByName(UAZ452_ambulanceMOD1)); 
    SlotManagerComponentClass myComponent = SlotManagerComponentClass.Cast(myFavoriteVariableName.FindComponent(SlotManagerComponentClass)); 
    EntitySlotInfo mySlotInfoName = EntitySlotInfo.Cast(myComponent.GetSlotByName(RearCargo)); 
    mySlotInfoName.IsEnabled() = false;
```?????

If you need help with setting up a user action (Zelik is right, WE really need a video on simple enforce script stuff that we can reference later lol) feel free to ask.

[fringe prairie]

Appreciate this, had a non working codec that came to life when I swapped out the helpers with raw manipulation.

[humble saffron]

Nice; thank you very much! You already pointed me some really nice spots to start paying more attention to. 😉
I have NOT yet messed with anything related to actions -> scripting here in Reforger - just ordinary actions for compartments/seats stuff.

I will spend some shots using all that data you have posted, at least to see until where can I reach, and bring any eventual results here as a report, ASAP, regardless they take me somewhere or not. 🍻 😎

[restive island]

I'm learning the scripting side of Reforger. Is there a tool that can map out, in a flow chart, what script action calls what from other parts of Enfusion? Kind of like how Neo4j works graphing related components together.
Example: If I open the class for switching to a weapon it visually graphs out the associated scripts for audio, physics settings, gun attachments, ammunition type, etc. I'd like to see whats called and the order

[west prism]

u have sickness chance but when u sick what i have to do? Medicaments ?

[desert escarp]

👍

[high hawk]

Jesus

[craggy jolt]

Is finding a component on entity and making it check few bools a good fit for "light-weight filtering" of filterEntity in BaseWorld.QueryEntitiesByOBB?

[solid hearth]

I can't imagine its the worst, how often is it running?

[craggy jolt]

Not very often, I guess it should be fine

[solid hearth]

Then it'll be fine, there's a few places in "vanilla" code doing similar or more, so long as you're not doing a query per frame and doing some more intensive things like on the fly calculations etc it shouldn't hinder anything. Doing base checking against a bool, cast checking etc are more or less near instant and lightweight.

Just for throwing it out there in my early code I do far more egregious stuff in there looping over thousands and don't even notice it.

[craggy jolt]

Yeah, trying to be as cautious as possible right away

[solid hearth]

You ain't in arma 3 anymore we don't have to penny pinch for performance at every corner but if it seems really bad in your head then its probably bad in play.

[craggy jolt]

Hope so, wondering if Enforce is really faster with all its OOP and type casting

[solid hearth]

It's a step up from RV but its only as fast as replication will allow it. Once you start to cram a bunch of people into a small area things go south real fast, for the server that is.

[minor agate]

Take it from Dedmen, if you want some insight from someone that dealt with RV SQF a lot.

[minor agate]

This is not fault of the engine though.

It's just how the game is implemented and how heavy certain things like AI, Character simul, etc are

On top of how other scripted systems are implemented.

But these things are being optimized so it should get better over time.

[torn bane]

Oh if you do not want the records to exist at all anymore you call Delete on the persistence component of the thing that shall no longer be tracked

[west prism]

Are there any jerry cans in the base game, or do I need a mod?
Does anyone have experience with adding a jerry can without using a mod?
Which components do I need to add to the prefab?

[craggy jolt]

There is and it can be useful to fuel vehicles, you get them at vehicle stations in Conflict

[west prism]

have sf mode no conflict

[craggy jolt]

Dont think they're confict specific

[west prism]

but i cant use this add trader?

[wild glade]

Hi, does someone have an idea, how I can apply a material like this on an entity? I can't really find a way to dynamically change the material on an entity

[inland bronze]

https://enfusionengine.com/api/redirect?to=enfusion://ResourceManager/~ArmaReforger:Prefabs/Items/Fuel/Jerrycan_01/Jerrycan_01_item.et

Jerrycan_01_item.et

[analog pivot]

Is it possible to override fields or do I have to override every method that uses the field?
Or is there another better approach to just change fields.

I would like to change the value of m_bIsDeleteRestricted and m_iPlacedMarkerLimit in SCR_MapMarkerSyncComponentClass

[minor agate]

[west prism]

thx for help

[wild glade]

Hi, does someone have an idea, how I can

[fringe prairie]

There is the debugger

You can add a breakpoint and see what is triggered afterwards by jumping in/out

[fringe prairie]

But it won’t show everything
Because a lot of stuff is game code like animations, but animations are visual, and those can be debug too via other animation workspace that corresponds to what you’re trying to look at

[west prism]

try add AI

[wild glade]

does someone have an idea why SCR_EntityHelper.SnapToGround is not working here? The entity still spawns in the air

LB_HideoutSupplyStorage depot = LB_HideoutSupplyStorage.Cast(GetGame().SpawnEntityPrefab(prefabRes, null, LB_Utils.GenerateSpawnParameters(m_transform[3], m_spawnRotation)));

if(!depot)
    return;

SCR_EntityHelper.SnapToGround(depot);        

[wild glade]

ah, i had to call depot.Update()

[west prism]

i try also
https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/61E3124D106BE728-RespawningAI
but the ai dont shoot me

[west prism]

dont attack AI

[desert escarp]

You need a perception manager

Place one in your world

[west prism]

navmesh is also done

[west prism]

added waypoint but they still dont move dont shoot

[torn bane]

You should watch the Ai tutorial as part of the bootcamps we have on YouTube

[little anchor]

Hello I want to get the preview of a prefab thanks to its resource (it's for a veh) how can I do?

[little anchor]

yes nice, ok how set the prefab with name ?

[abstract crescent]

GetRootWidget().FindAnyWidget().FindHandler()

[little anchor]

ok I see but what component should I use to display a veh?

[west prism]

i have now AI added but they still friendly

i changed their Faction still dont shoot

[spark otter]

That's not really scripting. Try #enfusion_ai or #enfusion_scenario

[west prism]

the zombies also dont attack me

should they attack in enfusion tools?

[inland bronze]

ask in #1110586149740748890 , it's their mod. You need to pay attention to channel topics or the moderators will get you

[inland bronze]

@minor agate will the files for the Advanced Replication Bootcamp be released on GitHub? I believe something was mentioned about it in the video, but I couldn't find them

[molten glacier]

I have a script for a mod I have that has been Hit and miss.

It spawns skirmish events based on player position and time passed

Sort of like how Far Cry works. But I cannot get this thing to work right even though with the laws of workshop it should work.

Anyone willing to chip in and be credited?

[tacit sundial]

Beginner question here, I would like to create a new game mode for Arma Reforger. I figure that learning how World Systems work would be a good place to start.

I've been following the documentation here: https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/EnfusionScriptAPIPublic/Page_WorldSystems.html#WorldSystemDocs_CreatingAndUsingWorldSystem

I have:

• Created the HelloWorldSystem
• Added it my config file
• Added the config to my addon "System Module Settings" as an additional config

I then opened the World Editor, opened Arland.ent, set my "Work Systems Config" to my addon config, and started the game.

However I am not seeing the log lines I would expect to see if the system was loaded. Anyone got any hints?

[restive island]

Any idea if there plans for a game update to add *finite fuel * in the mobile fuel depots? Trying to implement it as my first mod

[craggy jolt]

#enfusion_scripting message

[tacit sundial]

Thanks!

[little anchor]

Do you know which component I should use to display a vehicle?

[abstract crescent]

There is no preview component for vehicle, u can try to make own based on SCR_LoadoutPreviewComponent logic

[onyx widget]

Has anyone looked in to, or better yet succeeded at getting the reforger debugger working in Proton?

Also, much of the code analysis features (jump to def, list syms, etc.) are LSP features... anyone know of there's any chance they're somehow exposed via the network iface blender uses for purposes of external editor integration?

[craggy jolt]

Is there a way to find if object has any colliders? Couldn't find much in VObject or MeshObject.

Need to know if object can be freely moved through

[visual widget]

open the xob, is wrote there if it has colliders or not

[craggy jolt]

Through script!

[desert escarp]

Maybe check rigid body

[minor agate]

if (entity.GetPhysics().GetNumGeoms() == 0)
  // Do something if there are no physical geometries on the entity.

Just beware that other things are at play like the interaction layers and all that that coulda ffect if the geometries behave freely movable within the world.

There is also the case where the entity itself might not have geometries, but attached children could.

[wild glade]

Hi, is there a way to force a specific order for children of a prefab? I tried renaming/numbering them, but when I save the prefab, they turn back into their original names

[minor agate]

The names are a world thing, and they are only saved to a world

There are no named entities in prefabs themselves

[wild glade]

Ah okay, so I would probably add a component to the children, that holds the "position in order" of it?

[craggy jolt]

Thanks! Was searching "collider" to no results

[craggy jolt]

Turns out some objects don't have Physics component, specific example - cardboard boxes on the ground {530705FBB61026D2}Prefabs/Props/Garbage/Cardboard/Cardboard_Pile_03.et, I assume I can just check if component is missing which definitely means you can walk through it? Going with that for now

Thought there would be more tools to check XOB properties 🤔

[minor agate]

No RigidBody component does not mean physics is not on it

The component is just there for fast configuration through prefab

Geometries can be created at runtime, even as modder with the Physics API

[craggy jolt]

So, is there a reliable way to know if object has any collider geometry in it?

[minor agate]

#enfusion_scripting message

[craggy jolt]

Doesn't work with all entities though

if (!entity.GetPhysics() || entity.GetPhysics().GetNumGeoms() == 0)
```then?

[minor agate]

Yes

[dire sinew]

What method/event can be used to detect that an entity gets streamed out locally on a client?

Apart from destructor.

[pliant ingot]

OnRplLoad

[torn bane]

That would be stream in. Stream out would be indeed OnDelete for components or dtor alternatively

[forest arrow]

SCR_ScenarioFrameworkSlotClearArea
slotClearAreaComponent.m_aPlugins.Insert()

How to create instance of plugin? Or how to insert plugin to component from script?
For example, this plugin SCR_ScenarioFrameworkPluginTrigger

[torn bane]

Scenario framework is generally configured through the world editor and not dynamically via script

[forest arrow]

But if I can spawn prefab from scenarioframework, why not?
Or you mean that it will not work, if spawn will be from script?

[torn bane]

It will probably work, but not every property might be exposed to script to be set after the system init and behave like it should. you will have to test and see

[forest arrow]

Okay.
But what is the general approach of adding plugin? its not related only to scenario framework.
I need to spawn plugin prefab and then add to plugins, or I need to somehow create instance of plugins and then add to component plugins?
Maybe code snippet will be usefull, if you can 🙂

[torn bane]

what is configured from the world edit is just instances of it too. so you can in theory just create a new instance with "new" or if something is an entity/component then spawn the relevant SF prefabs for those yes

[forest arrow]

okay, thanks. will try

[sleek moat]

can you make an entity visible to a specific player but not others? without using a local entity

[torn bane]

Sure, set an invisible mesh by default and set the correct one only on those clients you want it to be

[sleek moat]

hm okay, would setting visibility flag either visible or not for what needs to be seen by who be an option too?

[valid anchor]

I'm encountering an issue where, onplayerconnect users aren't seeing capture area markers in the HUD, despite the map marker showing and the capture area being active.
It seems to be a timing issue with initialization/registration. Areas are "start active = false" by default and then I activate the areas as required via script. But this causes users to wait for next activation to initiate HUD update if they connect mid way through an already active area.

Is there a standard call for ensuring the player hudmanager syncs with server after connecting?

[molten glacier]

Been fist fighting a dynamic encounter event system that spawns 4-6 US troops and 4-6 FIA troops 70 meters in front of the player 1 ft above ground to create far cry like experience for solo players and for the life of me I cannot get this thing to work…

I am running it to call to SCR_BaseGameMode (I believe it is verified in the script) do I have to call to all conflict modes or the map?

The script now just runs from player location.

I even did a spawn then teleport to location and nothing.

[ocean kernel]

What happened to TryPerformResourceConsumption? It returns true but the amount of supply is never deducted

[steady steppe]

I happen to hit a REST rate limit with simple requests [from Reforger server to our API]

        RestContext context = GetGame().GetRestApi().GetContext(sContextURL);
        string headers = string.Format("Authorization, Bearer %1", sAPIToken);
        context.SetHeaders(headers);
        context.POST(m_restCallback, "", sData);

But neither are requests too large (~1kb), nor plenty (40 req/s). Dokumentation states size limit of 1MB (https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:REST_API_Usage), but no rate limit.
Do you have ideas? Error is below.

DEFAULT   (E): Http :: Failed to queue up request, request limit reached for host https://xxx-xxx.de 
BACKEND   (E): Http Error (CREATE)
BACKEND   (E): [RestApi] ID:[1110481] TYPE:[UNKNOWN] Error - Cannot send request

[molten glacier]

Figured it out. Script was running in mission brief screen and not checking player position after spawning….

Now for tweaking.

[fringe prairie]

Why might a context appear as yellow within the context debug?
(Not shown, but examples are here)
I am not sure what makes a context yellow, does it mean it doesn't currently have a value set? Or something else (like another context is taking priority?)

[torn bane]

If I am reading the code correctly there is a maximum of 64 pending requests allowed per context. Once a request is done it would not be an issue, but sending multiple that wait for timeout to fail etc could lead to an issue. Workaround would be to open multiple contexts for more specific base url, so you can have 64 per rest resource - or ideally queuing up your requests so you do not attempt to send more than 64 at a time before they are answered.

[valid anchor]

is this a rpl issue on player initialization? i can't understand why the hud mangar wouldn't register an active area the server says is active

[ocean kernel]

64 per context instance?

Can we set the timeout?

[ocean kernel]

Is there some simple way of eating supplies from scripts that works every time, assuming supplies are available?

[restive burrow]

Hello I have artillery mod and would like to attach a Ai dummy to it so the killfeed will read Artillery Strike killed - …. Could someone point me in the right direction. Should this be done though scripts only or do I mess with the components?

[restive burrow]

Your probably asking about something more complex than starting supplies

[west prism]

how can i add server uptime timer like fps or ping or just use an item actionmenu?

[steady steppe]

Ye, this. I acciddentiallyy executed that request once per player, not once on server => ~ 300 req/s => request rate limit => fixed
I created a second context where simultanious connections >64 are executed on, too.

[steady steppe]

Connection timed out after ~60sec. Automatic retries every couple (~2-5) seconds.

[steady steppe]

I checked TryPerformResourceConsumption that you mentioned yesterday.

1. Didn't see your issue. Supplies should be consumed by the call of RequestConsumtion that calls DecreaseResourceValue for the container?
   (Never actually tested what I claim here. Just reading code.)
2. Reducing Resources for containers or such would work similar, I guess?

[ocean kernel]

I wonder if its async and my usage is special because the player character is deleted a few frames after the consumption occurs

[forest arrow]

When I'm create SCR_BaseTask from script, I can see it on map, but cant see this layout for task notification, when task started and finished. What I missed?

string taskResourceName = "{CD66837DD5606573}Prefabs/Systems/ScenarioFramework/Tasks/TaskKill.et";
SCR_TaskKill task = SCR_TaskKill.Cast(GetGame().SpawnEntityPrefab(GenerateAndValidateResource(taskResourceName), null, GenerateSpawnParameters(mainPosition)));
task.SetTitle("My task title");
task.SetDescription("My description");

    task.Create(true);
    task.Show(true);

[fringe prairie]

Is there good practice for getting RplId from RplComponent from a sister component on init? Such as when I want to pass it to a system when registering? If I do it EOnInit it is too early so RplId is invalid, right now using a CallLater, then registering

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[craggy jolt]

Is there a way to trace against actual collision geometry of objects? I need to know if cuboid doesn't touch any colliders

So far tried BaseWorld.QueryEntitiesByOBB and BaseWorld.TracePosition+TraceOBB but these seem to be the same thing, playing around with flags didn't get what I want

[ocean kernel]

TraceMove?

[craggy jolt]

Hmm, tried that with same TraceOOB setup (same Start and End), zero matches now

[subtle sparrow]

I created a conflict scenario and when i press play i get this script error any idea what it could be?

[minor agate]

Auth or proxy?

[craggy jolt]

@minor agate Master Sensei, plz give advice on tracing against object geometry 🙏

    TraceOBB trace = new TraceOBB();
    trace.Mat = {cubeMat[0], cubeMat[1], cubeMat[2]};
    trace.Start = cubeMat[3];
    trace.Flags = TraceFlags.ENTS;
    trace.LayerMask = EPhysicsLayerDefs.FireGeometry;
    trace.Mins = mins;
    trace.Maxs = maxs;
                
    world.TracePosition(trace, TraceCallback);
```My latest trace, flags nor layer help either

[minor agate]

How did you get the cubeMat and the mins and maxs?

[craggy jolt]

PointInfo for position and orientation and size vector turned into mins/maxs.

The data is correct, it returns all objects that touch this cuboid with their OBBs, but I need to make it more thorough to check against their geometry (view, fire, any), instead of entire OBB

Current results: TV's OOB intersects rubble OOB while they're far from touching either other

I'd need to test OOB\Cuboid against collider geometry (like FireGeometry)

[minor agate]

filtercallback is not for returning matching entities

filtercallback is for getting possible entities to filter

It's there to optimize the trace

[craggy jolt]

oooh

There is TraceParam.TraceEnt

[minor agate]

You return false on the filter when you have found the one

Then the trace will perform the more expensive checks

and return it on the TraceParam TraceEnt

[craggy jolt]

I guess you meant true here. Finally have it working as intended!

    trace.Flags = TraceFlags.ENTS;
    trace.LayerMask = EPhysicsLayerDefs.FireGeometry;
```finds nothing though,

trace.Flags = TraceFlags.ENTS;
trace.LayerMask = EPhysicsLayerDefs.Default;

[minor agate]

Yeah I always mix that thing, only ever used it once

[lean yew]

What is the canonical way, in code, to check whether a player is a leader of a squad?

@minor agate As you appear to be active

[minor agate]

This one I don't know

I know more of base game systems or engine stuff

[lean yew]

Who would know? I currently use int leaderID = playerGroup.GetLeaderID(); but it appears to not work sometimes

Currently I'm comparing this value to the LocalPlayerID

I wonder if this is a better way to do it...? https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/ArmaReforgerScriptAPIPublic/interfaceSCR__PlayerControllerGroupComponent.html#a5ceb159af26108b99a0f38f1e65b14d0

[forest arrow]

When I'm create SCR_BaseTask from script, I can see it on map, but cant see this layout for task notification, when task started and finished. What I missed?

string taskResourceName = "{CD66837DD5606573}Prefabs/Systems/ScenarioFramework/Tasks/TaskKill.et";
SCR_TaskKill task = SCR_TaskKill.Cast(GetGame().SpawnEntityPrefab(GenerateAndValidateResource(taskResourceName), null, GenerateSpawnParameters(mainPosition)));
task.SetTitle("My task title");
task.SetDescription("My description");

    task.Create(true);
    task.Show(true);

[ocean kernel]

Mario if I try request consumption of supplies and then delete the player character a few frames after does it make the consumption fail?

[minor agate]

From client?

[ocean kernel]

All server

[minor agate]

If so, then if the deletion happens before the next fixed frame (Which is when the Rpl Scheduler processes what is queued for RPCs, Attributes, etc) then it will be an issue

[minor agate]

Should be fine, depends what you are doing I guess

[ocean kernel]

I request consumption and then delete the character a few frames later. I request consumption the same way for picking up items from arsenal and it works correctly, but requesting it for loading a player loadout (which spawns new controlled entity) seems to never subtract supplies from the box

[steady steppe]

Click debug, check the line it prompts you. Likely an undefined variable that was declared but never initialized?

[forest arrow]

Any guide how to create task with layout notification about task start\finish?

[fringe prairie]

Auth.

Also, I have an issue where my instance might be null when calling Extract method for replication on server. What could cause this when it should definitely not be null, or to guard a situation which it is null to avoid a VME? Away from my computer so I can’t send the codec here now.

[analog python]

your map is missing its topology and 2d map image

[ocean kernel]

FixedFrame is how often?

[craggy jolt]

30times/s

[ocean kernel]

Ok I give up on this for now, I call TryPerformResourceConsumption in one place it works in another place it doesnt work

Returns true though

true == false I guess

Why return true if consumption of supply didnt work?

[craggy jolt]

Tried? True!

[ocean kernel]

Bro I swear

[ocean kernel]

do I really have to restart workbench every time I make changes to chimeraInputCommon?

[fringe prairie]

Yeah, or at least the world editor window. I've seen some nasty index shuffling without a restart (an action binded to wrong context, etc.)

[fervent cedar]

Yea it's safer to do so.............................

[molten glacier]

Dumb oversight moment. Have a script dependent on player position. Didn’t add a retry loop so when there is no player on the map since all Arma modes start with a deploy screen the script just closes itself.

[ocean kernel]

Mario y u do dis to me

I wish I knew why my action isnt working, perhaps another context is eating it but I dont know which one

[fervent cedar]

Does it show up in keyBindingMenu if you add it there?
Is the context activated?

[ocean kernel]

I have 3 inputs and 1 of them aint working

well, 3 actions

so I think something might be eating it

but I cant find it in the diag thing

[fervent cedar]

I had some issues I deleted the file and createdd override again and copy-pasted the stuff back in text editor

I don't even use the config editor it's so hogwater, just text editor

ActionManager {
 Actions {
  Action HCA_CM_CharacterSpeed_Toggle {
   InputSource InputSourceSum "{}" {
    Sources {
     InputSourceCombo "{}" {
      FilterPreset "click"
      Sources {
       InputSourceValue "{}" {
        Input "keyboard:KC_LCONTROL"
       }
       InputSourceValue "{}" {
        Input "keyboard:KC_C"
       }
      }
     }
    }
   }
  }
  Action HCA_CM_Toggle_AutoWalk {
   InputSource InputSourceSum "{}" {
    Sources {
     InputSourceCombo "{}" {
      FilterPreset "click"
      Sources {
       InputSourceValue "{}" {
        Input "keyboard:KC_LCONTROL"
       }
       InputSourceValue "{}" {
        Input "keyboard:KC_W"
       }
      }
     }
    }
   }
  }
 }
 Contexts {
  ActionContext CharacterMovementContext {
   ActionRefs +{
    "HCA_CM_CharacterSpeed_Toggle"
    "HCA_CM_Toggle_AutoWalk"
   }
  }
 }
}

[ocean kernel]

is there docs on what the filter presets are and wat they do?

[fervent cedar]

I think they change the picture in keybind menu

and tooltip and stuff

[ocean kernel]

Oh yeah

[clever oxide]

hmm my presets is:
FilterPreset "primary:click"
FilterPreset "gamepad:hold"

[minor agate]

Doesnt the input/action debug help you see it?

[ocean kernel]

I just used different action that uses same button and its ok now

What I do NOT know how to figure out is whats up with the resource consumption issue I have

[minor agate]

What was the issue?, what is the setup and the context?

[ocean kernel]

SCR_ResourcePlayerControllerInventoryComponent.TryPerformResourceConsumption returns true but never actually removes any supplies

[minor agate]

hmm, what kind of actor are you using?

Container or Consumer?

(I have a hunch it is consumer)

Have you called EnableConsumtion(false) on the consumer anywhere in your code?. Or in the loaded addons?

[ocean kernel]

float cost = 100;

SCR_ResourceComponent resourceComponent = SCR_ResourceComponent.FindResourceComponent(arsenalComponent.GetOwner());
SCR_ResourceConsumer consumer = resourceComponent.GetConsumer(EResourceGeneratorID.DEFAULT, EResourceType.SUPPLIES);

auto resourceInventoryComponent = SCR_ResourcePlayerControllerInventoryComponent.Cast(GetOwner().FindComponent(SCR_ResourcePlayerControllerInventoryComponent));

bool success = resourceInventoryComponent.MyWrapperForTryPerformResourceConsumption(consumer, cost);

The reason this is baffling is that it doesn't work in method A but works in method B

[minor agate]

What is in MyWrapperForTryPerformResourceConsumption?

[ocean kernel]

bool MyWrapperForTryPerformResourceConsumption(notnull SCR_ResourceActor actor, float resourceValue, bool ignoreOnEmptyBehavior = false) {
        return TryPerformResourceConsumption(actor, resourceValue, ignoreOnEmptyBehavior);
    }

Its protected

😄

[minor agate]

You know you can mod protected to public, right?

[ocean kernel]

I'd rather not

[minor agate]

What is method A using vs method B?

Is this the arsenal being method A, and spawn thing method B?

[ocean kernel]

Right. The one that works is spawning items into the player's pockets. The one that doesn't is replacing the controlled entity. I guess I'll have to go over them side by side and see if there's some stupid mistake in one of the parameters or something.

[minor agate]

You said all this on auth right?

[ocean kernel]

Yes

[minor agate]

Then it is most likely not an issue from player controller but some setup

[ocean kernel]

I better check if it's using the correct player controller entity too

[minor agate]

wait. Is this using a consumer that is on the player?

[ocean kernel]

SCR_ResourcePlayerControllerInventoryComponent is on the player controller

[minor agate]

Yeah this is just for RPC stuff

[ocean kernel]

Consumer is the arsenal

Right?

[minor agate]

Ok so you did not add an arsenal to player entity. That is what I was asking

SCR_ResourcePlayerControllerInventoryComponent sole purpose was to be able to RPC stuff from client interacting with inventory interactions for supplies

That is it. it does not have any other purpsoe.

[ocean kernel]

Wat is the best way for me to just eat supplies then

[minor agate]

Just get the consumer. And RequestConsumption method on it

It's safe, should always work

[ocean kernel]

Wow I overcomplicated this to heck then

[minor agate]

And for generation. RequestGeneration on generators

[ocean kernel]

RequestConsumtion

SetDammage

[minor agate]

If you want to only check, then just do RequestAvailability method on all

[ocean kernel]

It returns a nice response struct

Oke doke I will try that then thank you

[minor agate]

Yeah there is a todo there that never happened

[vernal sphinx]

Hello, I'm new to using the Enfusion Workbench, so I'm sorry if I'm asking a question about something that has been answered time after time, how ever I cant find any answers in the plethora of discussions in this discord.

- Concept
I'm attempting to make my own conflict remix.
I don't want FIA on the map anywhere.
I want USSR to be REDFOR.

- Question
Is it a script that changes these things, or is it in a manager setting that needs to be changed?

[desert escarp]

Is there a way to see the amount of ram usage or overall performance of my mod in the debug menus?

[red cedar]

To simply change the factions you just need to replace the FactionManager.. i don’t think this should be in the scripting channel tbh.

[vernal sphinx]

Thank you for your insight, however I think asking if making an edit is script based, in the script channel.....seemed pretty on par.

I will attempt to "Replace FactionManager"

[red cedar]

Fair enough 👍

You need to reconfigure it and replace it in the world. It’s not very difficult

[vernal sphinx]

Im like 2 hours into using enfusion workshop...so not very difficult is just unknown to me

Which channel would be best for talking about the faction managers?

[ionic pewter]

Still got problem with your action?

[red cedar]

I hate how LAGGY the workbench is whenever i use a peertool client

it literally crashes my whole PC ever since the 1.3 update

[valid anchor]

So hassle to test client side only changes and upload every time

And have the upload hang 90% of the time

[minor agate]

Uploading to workshop is not for testing

For that just launch your mod on a server locally and connect to it

No need to pack it even

You can do it within workbench itself as well through DS tool

[valid anchor]

Is there a setup guide? I couldn't use the reforger dedicated gui from github cause I use starlink and couldn't connect via peer

cause that sure would make testing client/server changes a lot easier lmao

[minor agate]

Wdym reforger dedicated gui?

[valid anchor]

the soda3x server tool

[minor agate]

Ah dont expect support from us on 3rd party tools

[valid anchor]

yeah idc about that tool, i just dont know how to do it within workbench

is there any resources for setup?

[minor agate]

Check the replication bootcamps, in one we show how

On youtube

[valid anchor]

cause I spent a whole day trying to work out why my updates weren't reflecting correctly and then realised it's server only replication not client (literally explained in the first 20 minutes of bootcamp 1 lol)

https://youtu.be/asWxIIHT6d0?list=PLfUcrRpCM_fKjkTrkV-bqnknVbFCPA3YU&t=1390

Dedicated server tool setup guide timestamp

[digital needle]

is there a script to activate von when unconcious?! an override of the gamemode prefab somehow doesnt work for me

[red cedar]

It's a simple button to click in a component. give me a few minute and i'll tell you which one

i'm just testing one of my script really quick

[digital needle]

thank you!!

[red cedar]

In your game mode entity open the SCR_GamemodeHealthSettings and tick Permit Unconscious VON

[digital needle]

thanks! i did that but it didnt work..i'll try to find the issue

[red cedar]

make sure you save and that the your game mode entity is correctly in the world

[valid anchor]

thanks again, got it working. time saver

[shrewd nova]

What is the test category if not for testing? there’s public, unlisted and test

[timber cipher]

Dont even know if im looking in the right area and its been a week of watching tutorials that dont go over anything to do with character movement, is editing this in scripts even doable? My exp is with mapping but had an idea for a movement/stamina/weight mod and idk what the deal is never had an issue making changes of already existing systems but still new to enfusion and minimal exp with scripting so is anyone able to correct how im going about it or point me in the right direction?

[calm wren]

Hey, does somebody know how to Save to variable Player items in EPF, and then restore it at some point?

[narrow aspen]

well guys, how can I spawn/delete entity through user action? I have write a demo works fine locally but not work on dedicated server. I am sure I missed something related to replication.

My requirement: in user action: insert/remove resourcename in server-side json file and delete/spawn entity

[digital needle]

so i'd have to make a copy of the world of every mission just to change that parameter?! is there no way to have something that overrides the parameter for every mission i play? i am really getting frustrated with this 😦

[spark otter]

I think I pretty much did all of that stuff in my mines remixed mod. I usually try to leave a lot of comments in the scripts explaining what I am doing as well. You're more than welcome to take a look in workbench!

[valid anchor]

override the player base character prefab, edit it, go object details and look at all the components attached to it. Everything you want for movement, inertia, stamina, weight, health /damage values etc are in there. Don't need to script anything

[fervent cedar]

You cannot access / modify the vanilla intertia, stamina, weight during runtime with scripts.

What exactly do you have in mind?

[red cedar]

You could mod the class and enable it in the OnPostInit

[narrow aspen]

thank you Gramps. I will check it. I am writing some garage thing for my roleplay server and dynamic frontline PVE.

[minor agate]

It was for us, not community.

Should be removed

[valid anchor]

Any way to change the dedicated server window size?

When I use this in fullscreen or viewport and press play with peertool selected, it just opens as normal, not with DS tool. I have to open DS tool and press run to use that

[minor agate]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Startup_Parameters#screenHeight

Set these params on the config

[narrow aspen]

after learn your remix mod, I'm thinking about rewrite the rpl part of my demo. I currently use system rather than gamemode to manage all the garage component and it is combined to character, it is not that kind of necessary. And the system is server only. So the action can't write/load things correctly when on dedicated server. It is a mess tbh.

[west prism]

Hello need help with "The player is unconscious"
"The player is lying down for a few minutes and can’t do anything. Is it possible to configure this option? If yes, which script or prefab should I modify to change this behavior?"

[red cedar]

I’m not sure what you are looking for… but the game mode health settings component as well as the damagehandlers might help you…

[valid anchor]

You work this out?

[craggy jolt]

no

[valid anchor]

Currently working on it and came in to same issue, box with SCR_UniversalInventoryStorageComponent item contents spawn on world init, but not if triggered via script.

[west prism]

✅ How to Make Players Get Up Faster
Setting Suggested Value Purpose
Permit Unconsciousness ✅ (Enabled) Enables unconscious state
Kill Indefinitely Unconscious... ❌ (Disabled) Prevents auto-death
Regeneration Delay 🔽 2.0 – 4.0 Starts healing earlier
Regeneration Scale 🔼 2.0 – 5.0 Faster health regen while downed
Compartment Regen Multiplier 🔼 1.5 – 3.0 Speeds up healing of individual zones

i dont need it in gamehealth i need script or prefab of unconscious

Regen here its not only for unconscious

[red cedar]

You can override and modify the logic of the method named something like ShouldBeUnconscious

[west prism]

yeah so i need to know which script is in arma reforger for this unconscious is?

i cant find this one

ifound allready morphin script and rewrited but now need for unconscious

[valid anchor]

right click the "permit unconciousness" in the component and locate to script definition

[west prism]

i have no idea what is script name for unconscious

[valid anchor]

probably find it there

[red cedar]

SCR_CharacterDamageManagerComponent ShouldBeUnconscious

if you return false he'll be back up

[west prism]

thx i try to code for faster regen

[valid anchor]

I added custom components to the overriden prefab, and after spawning it in, the components weren't detected, pretty sure it's spawning in the base prefab

[oblique lynx]

Hi, I am wanting to make a digital Speedo for a vehicle, I think it's possible using the UI maker but not quite sure how to go about it

[valid anchor]

I had to create duplicate (not override), restart workbench for each duplicate, and now it spawns with inventory that I set

[west prism]

need help with nvg helmglitch

now have 2 helms on 😄

[ocean kernel]

why GameAnimationUtils.ShowMesh no worky with valid mesh index

[inland bronze]

I feel like I ran into a similar issue awhile back, can’t remember if it was that method specifically, but I believe it was something with my mesh not having a armature caused it to not work.

Not sure if that’s the case for your mesh or not

[ocean kernel]

wtf

ok let's find out

Yes that's it, it appears you need joints in order to be able to hide things that aren't joints

Thank you

[spark otter]

The mod author has to fix that. And it uses apl-nd license which basically means you're not allowed to mod his mod.

[sleek dove]

Yes it is needs to be considered an animated mesh to have this functionnality, currently in AR you need at least bone, later you should have the possibility to force it in the import properties of the mesh

[inland bronze]

As I was using a vanilla mesh for my case that had no bones, I ended up just swapping it to an empty mesh in script. Maybe you could do similar if needed

[west prism]

I installed Zeliks_Zones.

I created a safe zone — is it possible to deactivate shooting there so people can’t shoot inside it?
And if possible, can damage to vehicles be disabled as well?

Can anyone help? Vehicles are exploding because people keep shooting them, since the safe zone doesn’t block that.

Thanks for the support!

[spark kernel]

I was wondering if it possible to have a script that turns of lights in an area, whether that would be all lights withing a layer or with a certain name. I wanted to be able to destroy a substation and then it takes out the lights for the area? Is this possible already? or is a script needed?

[sweet badger]

any update on this bug, do you know what causes it yet?

[minor agate]

Biggest culprits I've seen on causing JIP erros is the usage of the WriteInt, WriteFloat, WriteBool, WritRplID, WriteString, etc and their Read counterparts

I strongly believe those helpers should be removed

[sweet badger]

Is this a general statement or specifically in relation to the RequestScenarioChangeTransition JIP error?

[minor agate]

In general for any issue from JIP

[desert escarp]

So should we not do that and instead rely on RplProp?

Is there any performance difference from either method

[minor agate]

Do the raw Read and Write methods

Do not use the helpers WriteXXX, ReadXXX

[desert escarp]

But if we use those right are they not just the same thing

[minor agate]

No

[sweet badger]

But presumably the RequestScenarioChangeTransition JIP error would not be related to that, right?
Since it "randomly" occurs when switching scenarios and was introduced with a vanilla update.

[minor agate]

Because the ReadInt, ReadRPLId, etc they compress the data, if they see the RplID is mostly zeroes, it stores it in 3, 2 or 1 byte

But on read, it causes issues

[desert escarp]

We've noticed it happens whenever a player joins mid transition

[minor agate]

And this is really dependant on chance of the given data being like that

[desert escarp]

Okay makes sense

[minor agate]

same deal with codecs 🙂

For example here
#enfusion_scripting message

[sweet badger]

Because the read does not know in how many bytes the write stored it, or what exactly is the cause there?

[minor agate]

yeah

[sweet badger]

Is that not just a design oversight with Write?

[minor agate]

With both 😅

For bool, it makes sense because you can always do 1 bit

string, yeah to simplify it

[sweet badger]

Does this issue also affect the Write/Read Range methods?

Compression uses only as many bits as necessary taking the range defined by {min..max} into account.
This sounds like the bits would be defined exactly when specifying a range.

[minor agate]

if min and max both land on the same byte count, then no issue

These helpers only work nicely when you have no serial data

like when you store a single value only

But when you do multiple in serail, that is an issue

[forest arrow]

Hello. Any guide "How to create task?" Or code snippet?
I have created, it works in workbench, but not in game, cant see it on map

[maiden goblet]

Could I ask you guys to leave client rest API calls in the game for PC? Had some mod ideas that would involve client downloading large datas over HTTP while they play.

[torn bane]

And how would that work for console? Or does your mod not try to support them? Right now I do not see any reason yet to remove PC support, but we have some refactors pending who may or may not force us to remove it. We do not know yet. So ideally you would want to not rely on it without any alternative if we end up going that way.

[maiden goblet]

it wouldn't. If I ever made that mod it would be PC only.

[pliant ingot]

and generate dozens of self-made helpers by modders....

[minor agate]

?

[pliant ingot]

if you remove these helpers then modders will create them, but because it's no more in core game, then it will be in each mod, some better some worse

[minor agate]

I think you misinterpreted

[pliant ingot]

I strongly believe those helpers should be removed
🤷‍♂️

[minor agate]

Yeah it's my belief

Can't be done as it breaks mods

If anything make them work without the compression thing

(For those modders that do not want to worry about the size of primitives)

[ocean kernel]

Brother vanilla servers are unjoinable after conflict round ends sometimes and show players the JIP error - clearing the saved session gets rid of it

Number one cause of JIP errors on modded servers is map makers using orange prefabs as part of the map

[torn bane]

If you have any reliable reproduction we would be happy to try it out and fix the issue. So far we have fixed many suspected causes but apparently did not find the right one yet. So unless we uncover some new information it is likely to stay an issue for the time being

[sweet badger]

Are you referring to the PrefabsEditable / saved session things bacon said, or the RequestScenarioChangeTransition error?

[torn bane]

They are connected

[sweet badger]

We get a JIP error in maybe 15% of all scenario transitions, unfortunately I'm not aware of any reliable reproduction method.
Salami said it can happen when a player joins mid transition, but I have not verified that #enfusion_scripting message

[ocean kernel]

People have been complaining about this on vanilla servers for months and you havent even tried to repro it yet?

Then again, loadSessionSave is an undocumented parameter so perhaps it should be removed until it works

[minor agate]

Arkensor is not the entire AR team

[ocean kernel]

There are quite a few problems with loadSessionSave but people are insistent on using it

[spring shale]

Sure sure 😂

[torn bane]

We have and were unable to reproduce it or else I would not ask

[minor agate]

https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-you-were-dead-you-were-dead-where-where-you-are-you-okay-where-did-you-go-gif-15140060

Back to modding?

[spring shale]

Not yet. Need to get employment first before I sink thousands of hours into passion. Looking forward to come back though. Reforger needs some good WW1 attritional PTSD generators 😁

Glad you missed me though. I still check in from time to time. Just not spending much time in the scripting channel anymore.

[ocean kernel]

All I know is it happens when round ends normally, frequent enough for people to invent ways to restart the server and remove session save when POSTGAME appears in the logs

[pliant ingot]

clearing the saved session
It's possible to do from enforce?

[ocean kernel]

Idk I built it into my admin panel as a checkbox for users

[fervent cedar]

How do we query bacon servers with powerful remove session save feature

[ocean kernel]

If you restart the server while it's loading everon it will timeout players and their game rejoins automatically. Otherwise if you restart too quickly then it says shutdown and they don't automatically rejoin.

[fervent cedar]

How do I filter the server list to only see bacon servers with powerful remove session save feature?
I wish to play these servers

[spark otter]

Killing the server fixes it, but I was told I can't do that. So I changed to deleting the latest save file on game mode end and that also fixes the issue.

[ocean kernel]

Lol I wonder if that's also borderline not allowed

But I don't get the point if it would be since it's intentional workaround

[calm wren]

Is there a way to make player invisible for others, but visible for you ?

Or send it to other dimension/routing bucket ?

[spark otter]

I would legit be mad if it were not allowed. "You're not allowed to fix our game! Your server must become unusable on round end requiring manual restarts!". I would probably quit at that point. LOL

[desert escarp]

Anyone know a way to pull how a player was killed

Like the weapon/if it was melee

SCR_InstigatorContextData doesnt have anything like that

[desert escarp]

Got it

if (instigatorContextData.GetKillerEntity())
        {
            ChimeraCharacter character = ChimeraCharacter.Cast(instigatorContextData.GetKillerEntity());
            SCR_MeleeComponent meleeComp = SCR_MeleeComponent.Cast(character.FindComponent(SCR_MeleeComponent));
            
            if (meleeComp.GetMeleeStarted())
                Print("Melee Kill");
        }

Just have to make a modded class for SCR_MeleeComponent to create that getter

[wooden cape]

All that for a gun game mission. Smh lol

[desert escarp]

Quality is quality

[dense compass]

Hey everyone, I'm looking for a way to get the concrete type of a variable in a script. Is there an equivalent of typeof in enscript ?

[desert escarp]

@minor agate
Would

[RplProp()] ref array<ref ExampleContainer> = {};

class ExampleContainer
{
    //some data
    RplSave
    RplLoad
    //Writer bs below
}

Be the best way to do this or would this cause massive ram usage for some reason

Or would I not need RplSave and RplLoad in the container class because of the RplProp

[dire sinew]

That's not how it works. RplSave/RplLoad is for entities and components. For your own managed classes, you'll have to implement codec methods: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Multiplayer_Scripting#Methods

[desert escarp]

I've done that so I don't need that

Guessing that also causes tons of issues with performance

[dire sinew]

You can't tell that beforehand. Depends on how it is used.

[desert escarp]

Constantly updated throughout the servers life cycles

[dire sinew]

If the array is large, you might wanna do it differently.

[desert escarp]

class SAL_DroneConnectContainer
{
    protected RplId m_DroneConnection1 = RplId.Invalid();
    protected RplId m_DroneConnection2 = RplId.Invalid();
    protected RplId m_DroneConnection3 = RplId.Invalid();
    protected RplId m_DroneCommandStation = RplId.Invalid();
    protected RplId m_DroneAntenna = RplId.Invalid();
}

This is basically what I use it for to store connection data

[dire sinew]

By not having it as a RplProp and instead delivering the full data to JIPs via RplSave/RplLoad on the entity/component that has the array as member. And do new insertions/deletions with RPCs.

[wooden cape]

Might be the source of our VON problems with the jip queue @desert escarp

@thick arch ^

[dire sinew]

Technically, you could also do RplProp+RPC, as RplProp also handles JIPs and probably is slightly more efficient than RplSave/RplLoad. However, it's a poor approach from a design perspective, as you essentially have to enforce the requirement that you never call Replication::BumpMe on this entity/component.

[desert escarp]

So to get this straight I can do

[RplProp()] ref array<ref ExampleContainer> = {};
//Update with Replication.BumpMe();
class ExampleContainer
{
    //some data
    // No RplSave and Load
    //Custom Codec BS
}

or

ref array<ref ExampleContainer> = {};
// Custom update with RPC broadcasts
class ExampleContainer
{
    //some data
    RplSave and RplLoad
    //Custom Codec BS
}

[dire sinew]

No, you would override the RplSave and RplLoad on the entity/component that has the array as member variable, not on the container.

And again, you would also define RPCs for replicating insertion and deletion of an element.

[desert escarp]

How would that look then with an array of classes

bool RplSave(ScriptBitWriter writer)
    {
        writer.WriteRplId(m_DroneConnection1);
        writer.WriteRplId(m_DroneConnection2);
        writer.WriteRplId(m_DroneConnection3);
        writer.WriteRplId(m_DroneCommandStation);
        writer.WriteRplId(m_DroneAntenna);
        
        return true;
    }
    
    bool RplLoad(ScriptBitReader reader)
    {
        reader.ReadRplId(m_DroneConnection1);
        reader.ReadRplId(m_DroneConnection2);
        reader.ReadRplId(m_DroneConnection3);
        reader.ReadRplId(m_DroneCommandStation);
        reader.ReadRplId(m_DroneAntenna);
        
        return true;
    }

This is how it looks right now I'm just confused how I do this with an array of classes instead of in the class object itself

[dire sinew]

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
class MyEntityClass : GenericEntityClass
{
}

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
class MyEntity : GenericEntity
{
    [RplProp()]
    protected ref array<ref ExampleContainer> m_aExamples = {};
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    void InsertExample(ExampleContainer element)
    {
        Rpc(RpcDo_InsertExampleBroadcast, element);
    }
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [RplRpc(RplChannel.Reliable, RplRcver.Broadcast)]
    protected void RpcDo_InsertExampleBroadcast(ExampleContainer element)
    {
        m_aExamples.Insert(element);
    }
}

class ExampleContainer
{
    //some data
    //Custom Codec BS
}

[desert escarp]

Ohhhh I see, that makes sense, basically how I am doing it right now, but whatever class has the array CANNOT call Replication.BumpMe();

[dire sinew]

Which is why RplLoad /RplSave would be cleaner instead of RplProp

[desert escarp]

I'm confused is the example above not using RplLoad /RplSave

[dire sinew]

That way you don't have to worry about anyone calling Replication::BumpMe or if you want a proper RplProp on your entity later for a different variable

No, this is the RplProp version

[desert escarp]

Ah what would the RplLoad /RplSave version look like?

Thats my biggest confusion, how exactly do I do that with an array of classes?

[dire sinew]

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
class MyEntityClass : GenericEntityClass
{
}

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
class MyEntity : GenericEntity
{
    protected ref array<ref ExampleContainer> m_aExamples = {};
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    void InsertExample(ExampleContainer element)
    {
        Rpc(RpcDo_InsertExampleBroadcast, element);
    }
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [RplRpc(RplChannel.Reliable, RplRcver.Broadcast)]
    protected void RpcDo_InsertExampleBroadcast(ExampleContainer element)
    {
        m_aExamples.Insert(element);
    }
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    override protected bool RplSave(ScriptBitWriter writer)
    {
        // Store m_aExamples on writer
    }
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    override protected bool RplLoad(ScriptBitReader reader)
    {
        // Read m_aExamples from reader
    }
}

class ExampleContainer
{
    //some data
    //Custom Codec BS
}

Though I'm not sure right now what the cleanest way would be to write/read the data

[desert escarp]

Thats what I am confused on as well

Rn my only thought is doing a foreach loop and saving and loading each index but that seems WILDLY inefficient

[desert escarp]

Also with this example how would I update data inside of that class, would I just have to build and set it to a new class everytime

[dire sinew]

Yeah, I think you just gonna have to loop through the array and store the data. You definitely exaggerate by calling it "WILDLY inefficient". Again this only ever gets called when you enter the replication bubble. Updates are handled by the RPCs.

[desert escarp]

AH I see, that is not as bad then

[dire sinew]

The alternative would be to store it somewhere where it can never be streamed out like the player controller, but that will increase the memory requirement, as you essentially keep uneccesary data just for the sake of avoiding streaming.

[desert escarp]

Whenever I do InsertElement I'm guessing because it updates m_aExamples it automatically triggers RplSave and RplLoad to write the new data

Or nvm

I see

🤦‍♂️

Its whenever it goes within replication

[dire sinew]

Exactly, RplSave/RplLoad only ever get called when the entity gets streamed in

[desert escarp]

So for my instance I have a gamemode component that manages all this, I just need to create a seperate gamemode component that only handles the connection containers

Or I guess with the RplSave/RplLoad you wouldn't have to, okay this helps a lot

Thank you so much

[dire sinew]

Oh well, in case of game mode component, it never gets streamed out, so the only time RplSave/RplLoad gets called is when a player joins the session.

[inland bronze]

I found that in my use case for a component, I used RplProp with Replication.BumpMe() and had to use RplSave/RplLoad, is that a valid method or am I doing something wrong somewhere?

[dire sinew]

Depends on what you are doing. In Salami's case the property is a potentially large array, which is why we want to avoid RplProp, as the whole array gets sent if you modify it and do Replication::BumpMe

[dire sinew]

Well, if the component is specifically only for this array, you could go with RplProp after all and just make sure never to use Replication::BumpMe on that component.

[inland bronze]

In my case, I think it was just bools

[solid hearth]

Trying to follow along with this but yeah i'm lost. My best advice which I hate to suggest it is if you really want to look at a somewhat complicated system but not really on how to deal with syncing large amounts of "classes" across the network you should look into the mapmarker manager component. It does this sort of pseudo technique that kex is trying to show where you have the server telling the client that x action is happening then having the y action on the client in-take and reconstruct the data as the server does and keeps that sort of in-sync.

[dire sinew]

Eh, just do RplProp and update it with Replication.BumpMe(). No need for RplSave/RplLoad.

[dire sinew]

Or another example with a game mode component: https://github.com/acemod/ACE-Anvil/blob/master/addons/core/scripts/Game/ACE_Core/GameMode/Components/ACE_LoadtimeEntityManager.c

[inland bronze]

Didnt work on peer without RplSave/RplLoad is the issue I ran into, so that's why I was curious if I was doing something wrong even though I bumped it each time it updated

[dire sinew]

Can you provide an example of a case where you had to use RplSave/RplLoad in addition?

Or the better question is where did you use the value? Could be that you tried to access it too early like in EOnInit.

If you want to do something when the value got updated, you should specify your method in onRplName, which is an optional argument for RplProp.

Also important to remember is that if you want the method to be called on all machines, you have to call it on the server explicitly, as onRplName only calls it on clients.

[inland bronze]

https://github.com/CashewSan/Central-Economy/blob/main/source/Scripts/Game/CentralEconomy/Components/CE_SearchableContainerComponent.c

m_bHasBeenSearched & m_bIsSearchableare the RplProps, RplSave and RplLoad are lines 243 and 251 respectively. Only one I can think of that might be too early is the bump in OnAreasQueried on line 84. Areas are queried on EOnInit, then script invoker is called once they're done.

Being checked in CanBeShownScript() & CanBePerformedScript() of this user action https://github.com/CashewSan/Central-Economy/blob/main/source/Scripts/Game/CentralEconomy/UserActions/CE_SearchContainerUserAction.c

[dire sinew]

As example

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
class MyEntityClass : GenericEntityClass
{
}

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
class MyEntity : GenericEntity
{
    [RplProp(onRplName: "OnMyBoolChanged")]
    protected bool m_bMyBool = false;
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    //! Has to be called on the server
    protected void SetMyBool(bool newValue)
    {
        m_bMyBool = newValue;
        Replication.BumpMe();
        OnMyBoolChanged(); // Otherwise it won't be called on the server
    }
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    protected void OnMyBoolChanged()
    {
        // Do something with m_bMyBool
    }
}

[dire sinew]

Yeah, OnPostInit is too early, but that isn't actually a problem. RplProp is smart enough to propagate the new value once replication gets initialized.

The problem likely lies somewhere different.

One thing to remember is that OnPostInit is called on all machines. Don't you want it to be only executed on the server/authority?

Basically, RplProp only sends the data to JIP if it thinks the data has changed. In contrast your RplSave/RplLoad always sends the data.

I think the inconsistency could come from the client also setting the values, as OnPostInit gets executed on all machines

[inland bronze]

In the component? What would I do instead of OnPostInit()? Or simply just add a RplRole check to it?

[dire sinew]

Either check the role or check that it's not a proxy.

or check if it's master (= server is owner and authority), if the server is always the owner.

[desert escarp]

I do
if (RplSession.Mode() == RplMode.Client)
return;

Just add
#ifdef WORKBENCH
#else
if (RplSession.Mode() == RplMode.Client)
return;
#endif

If you want it to work in the workbench but that's up to you

[dire sinew]

This doesn't make sense tbh. Replication.IsServer() is better, as it works for all cases (Listen and dedicated server and SP).

[desert escarp]

I've been told not to use that as it's being phased out

#enfusion_scripting message

[inland bronze]

I think there's specific cases where it should be used and not used, if I'm not wrong

[dire sinew]

Yes, I agree if possible use roles from RplComponent, but that likely won't work in OnPostInit, that's why I suggest Replication.IsServer()

[desert escarp]

It works with OnPostInit

[dire sinew]

Are you talking about your approach or RplComponent::Role?

[desert escarp]

Sorry my approach

I just hear Mario refering to Replication.IsServer() as the devil

[dire sinew]

As, I sad rather use Replication.IsServer(), your approach makes no sense at all

[dire sinew]

Yours is even worse than that

[desert escarp]

Mine still always works, Listen, SP, and MP and is not being phased out

[dire sinew]

Where was it ever said that Replication.IsServer gets phased out?

[desert escarp]

Honest to god, I cannot find it for the life of me but I swear pre 1.3 it was mentioned in here it was going to be phased out eventually, Mario also constantly says to not use it at all costs

#enfusion_scripting message

[dire sinew]

I'm pretty sure his is point is to go with the methods on RplComponent. I don't see why your approach would be any better than Replication::IsServer

[minor agate]

There is deltas for the RplProp stuff and what not, but I do not think we have explained these anywhere

[dire sinew]

I think they were briefly mentioned in one of the replication bootcamps, but I forgot about them 😅

[minor agate]

RplSave/RplLoad is valid with RplProp usage, in cases were you need to setup local data or registration based on streamed in data.

Like, you could have specific things sent to client when streamed in, but not actively replicated like RplProp

Or you might want to do something on the client when the Rpl system is active on the item, whcih you would use RplLoad for as sort of event

and same for Server when you want to detect if something is about to be streamed

RplSave/RplLoad is not an alternative to RplProp

RplSave/RplLoad are tools to do and send stuff when streaming in

[dire sinew]

I know, the point in this specific example is that the data that is handled by RplSave/RplLoad is a RplProp, which doesn't make sense. And the reason that they had to do it is likely some bug in the code.

[minor agate]

Yeah that is odd

But CashewSan has been having some odd stuff with Replication so

😅

[inland bronze]

doing this in OnPostInit and removing RplSave and RplLoad seems to work from quick testing, so that was probably the case

[inland bronze]

I'm always an edge-case

[dire sinew]

Which approach did you use to check for server?

[minor agate]

Use RplLoad for this

This is the "client event" to use and be safe about replication of the item on a proxy/client

[ocean kernel]

But RplProp do trick

[dire sinew]

Also something to consider is to check for GetGame().InPlayMode(), as OnPostInit also gets called in WB, which you probably don't want.

[inland bronze]

RplComponent rplComp = RplComponent.Cast(owner.FindComponent(RplComponent));

if (rplComp && !rplComp.IsMaster())
{
    return;
}

[ocean kernel]

wtf is IsMaster

[pliant ingot]

owner + authority

[ocean kernel]

I see the edge case

[dire sinew]

Huh, so RplComponent is available in OnPostInit for you?

[inland bronze]

in my testing so far, yes

[minor agate]

IsProxy() instead

[dire sinew]

I always though, if you want to interact with other components, you have to use EOnInit instead of OnPostInit

[minor agate]

IsMaster can return false if you are server, or true

[minor agate]

const RplComponent rplComp = RplComponent.Cast(owner.FindComponent(RplComponent));

if (rplComp && !rplComp.IsProxy())
    return;

[pliant ingot]

yes, because some other components may not be initialized yet

but some may be already initialized

[inland bronze]

would be rplComp.IsProxy() instead of !rplComp.IsProxy() if returning, correct?

[dire sinew]

True, so not to rely on some arbitrary initialization order, CashewSan should better move to EOnInit.

[pliant ingot]

and afaik, it will be inserted into replication much later...

[candid garnet]

Vlad, you seem to help with replication here a lot. Have you looked over the wiki pages on it? Anything that should be added or changed? Different wording?

[minor agate]

IF you want to check if you are server, then check against IsProxy()

[dire sinew]

Which would mean that RplComponent probably won't return the correct values yet...

[minor agate]

Non proxy means auth

non auth means proxy

Auth can have ownership

proxy can have ownership

which is why the other one you had is flawed

as ownership can't be shared

so there can auth without ownership

!IsProxy() will work to see if auth on all scenarios SinglePlayer, HeadlessClient, Client, Dedicated server, listen client, etc

even dedicated on a client with locally spawned ent

This mishap here is why things work on DS to some, but not on WB and peertool

[dire sinew]

Will this even work properly during OnPostInit of a script component? As Vlad pointed out, the RplComponent might not be ready at that point.

[minor agate]

Or why not in SP

etc etc

[pliant ingot]

Last time I watch it - there was misisng infor about Encode/DecodeDelta..., I can't say much about other, because I prefer to read apidocs or code itself

[minor agate]

It should

That part is predetermined

The owneship will change later on

Which is why you should never check that on init like that!

[minor agate]

Use doxygen for that

[pliant ingot]

so, some components have priority in initialization order?

[minor agate]

We are actually going away from wiki

So further docs will be on a better doxygen

More modernized with WB theme 😅

and some linkage to WB

Just to clarify, biki won't be removed. Just not used anymore for newer docs

[pliant ingot]

WorldControllers....

[minor agate]

we are going with MD files, inline docs and perhaps some github for collaboration with community for issues or additions (We'll see)

[pliant ingot]

And still no systems for edit mode 😢

[dire sinew]

And non-unique systems, so you can actually inherit from your own base systems.

[pliant ingot]

I don't try this, but this is not working?

[dire sinew]

You can only have one derived class of a custom base class registered, so it basically bahaves like unique from what I understand. SetUnique seems to be ignored atm.

[pliant ingot]

but i think for these systems will be better to make "main" system and your own system class with your own cfg

[dire sinew]

It would be just nice to have the whole Register/Unregister boilerplate refactored into a base system, rather than having to copy/paste across all system like right now. Ofc ideally, it would be template-based, but I doubt we will ever be able to make templated systems 😅

[pliant ingot]

copy/paste across all system
You can do this in separate class (something like "SystemEntityRegister") and just include it into system (mb even public)

[minor agate]

@dire sinew Do you want me to tease you with something from enf that you don't currently have but that is there now?

[dire sinew]

Sure, go for it 😄

[minor agate]

We have proper event system now, custom widget native events (Follows widget bubbling), friend methods and classes

[dire sinew]

Indeed, I came to the same conclusion and then want to have parameters for that inner class and then had to realize that you can't use custom templated classes as attributes (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T193122) 🙈

[minor agate]

plus other things

the widget events and friend classes and methods i guess you should receive soon on AR, let me ask.

[dire sinew]

I think you teased some of those earlier. I already commented some of the methods to be friend methods later on because of that 😅

event system
I presume this will help to properly deal with events in systems. Currently it can be quite awkward, especially if you have to deal with invokers that don't pass the actual entity that invokes it.

[minor agate]

Yeah it's for that

We avoid invokers in the new arma 🙂

[lapis creek]

Should we expect an event system in reforger? 🥹

[fervent cedar]

?? What's the alternative, this must be a joke

[minor agate]

read above

[fervent cedar]

event handlers?

[minor agate]

It's similar to Qt Signals and slots

There is connection validity on compilation time as well

among other things

safer, more controllable, compact and systematic

You should not miss invokers with it

[fervent cedar]

Sounds like something someone made up.
As long as I can still dynamically add functions to things in scripts and stuff like with script invokers

[minor agate]

Sounds like something someone made up?. wdym.
It;'s quite common arch for proper events

[fervent cedar]

EH in a3 were good, never really had issues with script invokers really 🤷

[minor agate]

And yesm you can do dynamic events

[minor agate]

There were no invokers there

Not the same thing

there it was an event handler

[dire sinew]

CBA event system cough cough

[fervent cedar]

No i mean script invokers in refoger 😄

[minor agate]

Invokers are no event nabager or handler

@west prism wrong channel

This is for scripting questions

[minor agate]

All those init issues you have, explosions when invoking, some memory corruption, etc are almost all the time related to invokers or callqueues when it comes to scripts

These sort this, along the clutter from script invokers in code

[dire sinew]

Oh, so you are getting rid of callqueues as well? 😅

[minor agate]

It's not an event system just for the sake of one

We would not have spent the time on it if it was just a "nice addition"

[minor agate]

Nah

[fervent cedar]

getting rid of callQue sounds like making something that takes 1 line take 15 lines tbh 😄

[minor agate]

They are still there

local callqueues are fine, just do not use a global one for the whole game

[fervent cedar]

imagine we had advanced preprocessor and macros, it's the best way

I wouldn't mind removing callque if I could just use a 1 word macro to do the same function

[dire sinew]

Oh no, please no more EGVAR 😅

[fervent cedar]

I don't mean that one, the ace/cba one was so annoying

I just mean instead of making things into functions, they should be macros

So scripting would be 1 line, but after preprocesseor it's 15 lines coped from the start of the file.

[dire sinew]

I'd rather have namespaces

[minor agate]

[dire sinew]

Eh, just let the compiler inline it.

[minor agate]

More complex preprocessor is something that is definitely not being added to scripts

[fervent cedar]

I guess one day we'll just make our own vscode plugin for that

[minor agate]

Very easy to become a mess

specially when trying to debug

[fervent cedar]

Yea well you have your own script editor, why can't it properly support macros by hovering over them etc...

[minor agate]

It's not that

It's the clutter it can generate to modders (Majority not being programmers) misusing it

A few might use nicely, most might not

then you will have the crazy guy doing #define true false in some cases

[west prism]

what is this server enfusion_scripting_?

[fervent cedar]

okay so now we have game systems / world controlelrs update and also event handlers update pending

[dire sinew]

The only thing where I see that preprocessors could come in handy is if we had a proper way to check if a specific mod is present via preprocessor.

[minor agate]

This we might provide, we discussed it but no design came from it

and no design means back to backlog or ideas 😅

[west prism]

can u drop me pls link to scripting channel

[fervent cedar]

Now this thing event handlers.
I was thinking making upward compatability by making

• parent mod
  • main mod
  • side/optional mod
    both require the parent, so I can have compatability function in the parent mod with event handler (or script invoker)

Can eventhandlers allow me to add script with return values etc in situation like this?

So I can run the side/optional mod without the main mod, but also with it

we want eventhandlers with return values and dynamic unmknown function calling.
Such as calling a eventhandler just by "stringName"

[minor agate]

in parent mod you will have the provider (What provides the events to be called)

And then any receiver can be connected to it

Connection is like insert like with script invoker

But more smart, also allows you to have some filtering that can be any managed instance or an int

[fervent cedar]

So I have to define all my functionality manually in parent mod?
We want not manually

[minor agate]

Which you an use to fire separate strands or anonymous sub events

Or to just do some sort of filtered event, through techniocally the same event linkage

Or decide to do broadcast to all

[minor agate]

No?

(Any managed class is a receiver btw)

[fervent cedar]

I can create the eventhandler in main mod.
Ask to add a script to eventhandler in side mod.

[minor agate]

Yes

[fervent cedar]

Hmmmm nice, this isl ike perfect then for compatability

They can support return values or I have to make that manaully?

[minor agate]

We planned it for modding into account heavily so yes, don't worry about that

[minor agate]

Your question seems to be more #enfusion_configuration

[mild quarry]

Is it possible to attach/detach magazines from a gun? I have tried it a number of ways and I can’t get anything to work. Seems like the magazine in WeaponMuzzle.GetCurrentMagazine() is cached and returns a reference, even if that mag way deleted

Even when I use the InventoryManager to successfully attach a new mag, it still seems like the weapon reverts to whatever mag was formerly in the gun (further pointing to a cached reference)

[spring shale]

Well I hope it pans out. There's a lot more you can do with a Wiki and a website than you can with automated doxygen. Never been too much of a fan of doxygen.

[west prism]

who has experience with swimming? its there an option to make swimming faster?

[spark otter]

I would look at the perform action of detach magazine user action. The action you see in weapon inspect.

[mild quarry]

Thanks for the suggestion. I’m not near the code rn, but that user action should just trigger the CMD_Weapon_Reload animation command (since the mag gets detached in the animation itself).

I think the key is in the Weapon_DetachMagazine animation event, but that’s not public so idk where else to look for reference

[fringe prairie]

My personal opinion, and not sure how bad this is (mario yell at me if so) is for each mod to advertise it's presence via #define TAG_MODNAME

Then anyone else can choose to play with your mod if it's present, or not compile certain scripts if not. Requires the author of the mod to add this definition.

[minor agate]

That is essentially what dayz does

It creates a enforce script define based on the CfgMods config class names

[ocean kernel]

Imo compiler should prefix all non-vanilla class names and method names with mod guid

At least for logging purposes

Server owners struggle a lot finding which script a mod comes from

When they get errors

[ocean kernel]

Also for gods sake make the automatic addons parameter for peertool work for mods with spaces in their name, it's 2025 and your program can't handle an ascii character

[torn bane]

If an actual error method is called then the track trace tells which addon filesystem it came from. If you get a compile error you see it too. if you do it in workbench you even get the addon name as extra colum to sort/filter for.

[ocean kernel]

Like currently in the server log?

Or in next version

[torn bane]

We have not shipped the latest enfusion version in a while, so it might be much differrent on stable right now. You can check it out on 1.5 experimental once that comes out and give an example of what you would like to see where if that does not solve your problem.

[ocean kernel]

Yeah fair

[abstract crescent]

Hello. I have some issue with class inheritance.
I cant use parent constructor for initialization?
I got exception with null pointer - m_subBase is null in TEST_CustomBaseItem in overrided CustomRunCheck.
its ok if i move RunCheck out of constructor.
Seems derived class doesnt see own parameters when parent class calls overrided function from constructor or parent calls constructor before init parameters in derived class

SCRIPT       : TEST: RunCheck
SCRIPT       : TEST: CustomRunCheck 2 [HELLO]

SCRIPT    (E): Virtual Machine Exception

Reason: NULL pointer to instance

Class:      'TEST_CustomBaseItem'
Function: 'CustomRunCheck'

ref TEST_CustomBaseItem item = new TEST_CustomBaseItem("HELLO");

class TEST_Base
{
    void PrintDebug()
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: PrintDebug");
    }
}

class TEST_BaseItem
{
    void TEST_BaseItem(string msg = string.Empty)
    {
        RunCheck(msg);
    }
    
    void RunCheck(string msg)
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: RunCheck");
        CustomRunCheck(msg);
    }
    
    void CustomRunCheck(string msg)
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: CustomRunCheck [%1]", msg);
    }
}

class TEST_CustomBaseItem: TEST_BaseItem
{
    ref TEST_Base m_subBase = new TEST_Base();
    
    override void CustomRunCheck(string msg)
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: CustomRunCheck 2 [%1]", msg);
        
        m_subBase.PrintDebug();
    }
}

[minor agate]

TEST_BaseItem has it's own constructor, which is the one calling RunCheck which calls CustomRunCheck

Declaring variables like you did in TEST_CustomBaseItem causes the VM to generate a constructor for TEST_CustomBaseItem with the assignments for those variables.

So when you create a TEST_CustomBaseItem instance.

The order of the chain of calls for the contructors is
TEST_BaseItem();
TEST_CustomBaseItem();

Given that you modified CustomRunCheck to try to use that var in TEST_CustomBaseItem, by the time it gets called because of the base class constructor, it does not exist and hence why you have this issue

[abstract crescent]

how can i call parent constructor?

[minor agate]

You can't

Its done automatically

Parents first, then derivations

In order of hierarchy

same deal for destructors

For these cases, just do this

[abstract crescent]

in short: we can't use overridden functions in constructors with deriveds parameters

[minor agate]

class TEST_Base
{
    void PrintDebug()
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: PrintDebug");
    }
}

class TEST_BaseItem
{
    protected void Init(string msg)
    {
        RunCheck(msg);
    }
    
    void TEST_BaseItem(string msg = string.Empty)
    {
        Init(msg);
    }
    
    void RunCheck(string msg)
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: RunCheck");
        CustomRunCheck(msg);
    }
    
    void CustomRunCheck(string msg)
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: CustomRunCheck [%1]", msg);
    }
}

class TEST_CustomBaseItem: TEST_BaseItem
{
    ref TEST_Base m_subBase;
    
    override protected void Init(string msg)
    {
        m_subBase = new TEST_Base();
        super.Init(msg);
    }
    
    override void CustomRunCheck(string msg)
    {
        PrintFormat("TEST: CustomRunCheck 2 [%1]", msg);
        
        m_subBase.PrintDebug();
    }
}

[minor agate]

You can, your case is quite weird I got to say

You set yourself to failure on this regard with the chain of calls, but there is no super on constructors and destructors for performance reasons

If you need that behavior, then do what I showed you

Also there is no performance gain for initializing the variables on declaration

[abstract crescent]

its not about performance its more about code visualization

ref array<ref MyClass> arr = new array<ref MyClass>();
arr.Insert(new MyClass("A"));
arr.Insert(new MyClass("B"));
arr.Insert(new MyClass("C"));
arr.Insert(new MyClass("D"));

or

ref array<ref MyClass> arr = new array<ref MyClass>();
MyClass mc = new MyClass();
mc.Init("A");
arr.Insert(mc);
mc = new MyClass();
mc.Init("B");
arr.Insert(mc);
mc = new MyClass();
mc.Init("C");
arr.Insert(mc);
mc = new MyClass();
mc.Init("D");
arr.Insert(mc);

[minor agate]

the perf thing I mention was on how it works with enforce script with constructors and destructors

they do not have the super behavior just to speed up initialization and destruction processes

Its implicit and predetermined

[minor agate]

?

See the code I gave you

It would still land you on the first one you shown here

The init method is utility method to be called by the constructor (Base)

So that then you can use Init method on derived classes to chain your construction logic however you want

[abstract crescent]

it has issue. With

ref TEST_Base m_subBase = new TEST_Base();

i known that parameter m_subBase doesnt null 100% and i dont need to check it anywhere.

[minor agate]

?

It's set on the Init method, that gets called by the constructor

[abstract crescent]

what happens if Init calls doesn't exist or Init overridden?

what happens if derived class creates own constructor, does it call parent constructor?

[minor agate]

read what I explained

constructor chain is always present

it can't be changed by anyone

same for destructor

Any new constructor, calls the parent constructor

and the parent constructor, calls it's parent constructor

etc

Parent constructors gets called frist thing on the new constructor, before anything else

which is what wrecked you on your previous logic

[abstract crescent]

ok. I understand. I just should remember that for future.

[ocean kernel]

How do I call the destructor

delete MyClass?

[minor agate]

yeah or null all strong references to a managed class instance

just beware that delete won't be allowed to go through if the instance has more than 1 strong reference to it

[ocean kernel]

Darn, thats why this = null didnt do anything

[minor agate]

delete this
works

[ocean kernel]

Not for scriptcomponent

[minor agate]

But again only if there is only 1 strong reference at most

[minor agate]

Because is not script managed

Engine created classes are handled by engine or game (CPP)

Basically, if CPP created it for you natively. Then you can't call delete on it.

[ocean kernel]

[minor agate]

Only cases where you can is when the native method retrieves ownership to script

Which is almost never a thing

You can tell on some (When done correctly) by having ref on the native method return type.

[ocean kernel]

Honestly I was thinking doing delete this in constructor would crash

[storm shore]

Is there a way to give a player godmode under certain conditions? I've got a modded SCR_CharacterDamageManagerComponent class and override onDamage, but can't seem to be able to stop a player from taking damage, though I can stop an AI taking damage that way

[inland bronze]

could override SCR_HitZone::ComputeEffectiveDamage to essentially be like (pseudo-ish-code):

override float ComputeEffectiveDamage(notnull BaseDamageContext damageContext, bool isDOT)
{
    ChimeraCharacter struckChar = ChimeraCharacter.Cast(damageContext.hitEntity);
    if (struckChar.IsGod)
    {
        return GodModeEffectiveDamage(damageContext, isDOT);
    }
        else
            return super.ComputeEffectiveDamage(damageContext, isDOT);
}

protected float GodModeEffectiveDamage(notnull BaseDamageContext damageContext, bool isDOT)
{
    float effectiveDamage = super.ComputeEffectiveDamage(damageContext, isDOT);
    float remainingHealth = GetHealth() - effectiveDamage;

    if (remainingHealth < 100)
    {
        return GetHealth() - 100;
    }

        return effectiveDamage;
}
``` or something like that

[river imp]

Or just set EnableDamageHandling to false

[storm shore]

Thank you, that works perfectly for me

[inland bronze]

could probably do what Zelik mentioned as well, it's cleaner

[storm shore]

I only want the player to be immune from damage under very specific circumstances, so I don't think simply disabling damage would work

[sweet badger]

If I spawn an entity and directly afterwards modify it's properties in script, this change does get picked up by an RplSave/RplLoad immediately following the entity being spawned and appearing on client, right?

[pliant ingot]

There are method HijackDamage, which is used for this purpose (I used this for temporary vulnerability) - you can define in this method condition when to ignore damage.
Or use Zelik's method: #enfusion_scripting message

[fringe prairie]

I'm hitting a VM exception in my RplProp serialization methods. I am destroying a "network" object on server and bumping it, Extract gets called with a null instance (kind of makes sense). My static serialization method signature is:

static bool Extract(AG0_TDLNetworkMembers instance, ScriptCtx ctx, SSnapSerializerBase snapshot)

Is it expected behavior for the replication system to call Extract with null instances?
What is the best way to guard or prevent such a situation, maybe RplProp is just not possible to use with some object which is created/destroyed on demand?

With this issue I decided to start moving away from this and instead RPC to the player controller (probably better long run anyways). Still interested in seeing what causes the instance to be null. I've been reading up on the recent conversation about replication and have done my best to optimize how, when, and where I use replication. The mod I am working on essentially allows for the replication of information managed by a server side system to players who can join certain networks, thus I created a complex object to represent each member's name, position, capability, etc - and replicate that data to each player who is a part of a network with the object containing network information and members.

[pliant ingot]

guard
Just if (!instance) return ...

And yes, sometimes it calls with null

But not sure why

[fringe prairie]

I did that to avoid the issue, just wanted to understand more about why it allows me to mess up the server this bad without a null check. Couldn't find an example of a codec which used a null check so figured whatever I am doing is just wrong

[pliant ingot]

I can't tell more about this, because I personally don't use RplProps, and prefer to just RplLoad/RplSave + Rpc for sync, and because of this all my codecs reliably receives not null instance

[sleek dove]

I mean if your instance is null makes sense that extract is called with null, since it just want to replicate the current value which is null

I would highly discourage writing your own codec anyway, it is very error prone and just stall the replication of the game.

[ocean kernel]

How is the server browser sorted on the backend? In terms of secondary and tertiary sort keys etc

Like let's say I sort by players, there has to be something that sorts the results if they have the same player count right?

[desert escarp]

Is there a way to see what components are using up memory on a dedicated server and by how much?

Best I got is the debug menu but in the workbench it kind of merges the roles

[minor agate]

@fringe prairie @pliant ingot this last part is also why I keep mentioning to do very simple codecs too. The less logic the better, keep it to replication stuff itself. Do not do any registering to other classes, finding components, or any other logic within codecs themselves

Also, DO NOT do your own utility methods for replications, you just cause each replication process be slower than it should be

[pliant ingot]

discourage writing your own code
Only when you implement default codec at least for simple class where each member is simple int, strings and etc

[pliant ingot]

I like it, and will do

[minor agate]

There was someone before that tried to optimize networking by trying to optimize bandwidth usage, but made the replication ticks be extremely slower

Causing more desync because of how long it took to decide to replicate something

[minor agate]

If your mod causes lots of desync, becomes popular and damages game stability because of that, we might take it down. So be careful about it

but it has to be quite bad for that

[pliant ingot]

I just use codec for sending my classes through rplsave and rpc

[minor agate]

there not been a mod with 80% culprit of crashes since 1.1

[pliant ingot]

Otherwise I need to call Rpc multiple times with all (or nearly all) parameters are set with int, strings and etc

[minor agate]

codec is okay, what Niirozz meant is that it is not free

[pliant ingot]

So implement this PLS: #enfusion_scripting message

[minor agate]

And CPP provided codecs are always best, in some cases RPC and RPLLoad and Save are best too

Depends on your data, and logic

Sometimes you can restructure logic to minimize replication needs without overhead

depends

[fervent cedar]

So are you saying if I just spawn in a IEntity with RplComponent and use RplProps.
It's more efficient than manually sending data with RPCs?

Example, a virtual stock exchange, that every player will use 100% of the time.
I should just create a IEnt with RplProp for the price/availability etc.
Ex there are 10 000 stocks, I'm better using RplProp instead of RPCs and manually managing updating data to all clients and Jip?

Because RplProp is all CPP, it's faster tahn anything in the world

[ocean kernel]

Will you guys take down mod 58D0FB3206B6F859 for making vehicles teleport randomly when driving?

It kinda makes the gameplay experience suffer

[pliant ingot]

It faster if in other case you need to use your own codec, extract/inject, rplload/save methods

Because all of this is in enforce, which is slower then cpp

And you can write them bad

[minor agate]

So are you saying if I just spawn in a IEntity with RplComponent and use RplProps.
It's more efficient than manually sending data with RPCs?
No, it's not always the case

It depends on your logic, data and how often you need it

Hey, again go to #enfusion_configuration

[fervent cedar]

All I wanna know is if I create 10 000 IEnt with RplProps to manage 5 int values in them.
Isn't that gonna bottleneck the duck out of the game engine?

Because that might be the fastest way to write a system to sync data + jip + live data edits.

Because I assume all IEnt and all RplProp are iterated over in a single thread somewhere

[minor agate]

I can't find such mod

[ocean kernel]

Ghost mod

[minor agate]

it's multiple threads, but those are blocked by main thread because of scripts depencency

Which is when the stall to replication happens

[fervent cedar]

found it

[pliant ingot]

You still want to sync store through thousands entities?)

[minor agate]

Depends on if they are set dirty or not

The system only goes over things that are marked that needs update

That is why you have to call BumpMe or nothing happens

[fervent cedar]

What about jip?

[minor agate]

For RplProp is done automatically

RplProp is just a helper methodology to do the same you would do with Rpcs and RplLoad and RplSave

[fervent cedar]

If I can do this and just use 10 000 IEnt with RplProp.
It would be like 100 lines compared to normally ~2000-3000 lines...

Rplprop is faster than enfuision sqf

Therefor it's indefinitely better

[minor agate]

enfusion sqf?

Don't tell me you are using that cursed SQF in Enfusion thing

[fervent cedar]

no

[minor agate]

Good

I saw it before, and was like nice way to extremely slow down things heh

also people not wanting to conform to change for the better

some form of senior rejection

[pliant ingot]

Just imagine: enforce threads

[minor agate]

before someone mentions it. the thread keyword does not create a thread

😅

it's a fake thread, it still runs on the main thread.

[pliant ingot]

But I mean real threads

Just for enforce

[minor agate]

unlikely to happen in full as of now. Given to the whole script architecture and bigger things to fry first

also it would just create more unsafe context for modders

[pliant ingot]

This will be a thing? #enfusion_scripting message

[minor agate]

of everyone touching script, only a small percentage of modders are programming experienced

so we tend to limit because of that

[pliant ingot]

This will solve 99% of my usege of codecs things

[minor agate]

Nothing is planned regarding that. you just requested it 😅

[minor agate]

I have my sights on mods from this ceo_of_bacon for instability and performance reasons.

Jokes aside, nice joke. It caught me

[pliant ingot]

And same for class members that satisfy this condition and arrays and maps of these types

[ocean kernel]

[pliant ingot]

So you can easily send through rpc or rplprop any custom but simple data

@minor agate I don't try yet, but how these codecs and other stuff works with inheritance?

[minor agate]

But this can't be enabled to all classes

As you don't want all to be replicated most of the time

but I get your idea.

You want something like how structs are generally used to pass data around

[pliant ingot]

RplDecode = default; will be enough

[pliant ingot]

For example, send MyDerivedClass through RpcDo(MyParentClass x);

[ocean kernel]

I made this one for you just to see how extremely jank the scripts are #enf_showroom message

[minor agate]

In AR. it does not work well.
It's sorted in current enfusion and A4 though.

idk when that will reach AR.

like, it works but it is limited in AR

[minor agate]

It will take MyParentClass's codec in AR afaik.

[pliant ingot]

😢

Then I need to write a fabric-wrapper with codecs for it

[minor agate]

I love it

[cloud nacelle]

Hello, was wondering if anyone here could help with my enfusion script struggles
i'm trying to get the headquarters in a conflict game to check which side is which

this is my code

protected ref array<SCR_MilitaryBaseComponent> m_aHeadquarters;
// protected ref array<Managed> m_aHeadquarters;

Print("[DF_AutoTurretFactionInjector] Search HQs");

// I can't get either of these calls to work
GetGame().GetWorld().QueryEntitiesBySphere(vector.Zero, 9999999, HQQueryEntitiesCallbackMethod, null);
// FindComponents(SCR_MilitaryBaseComponent, m_aHeadquarters);

Print("[DF_AutoTurretFactionInjector] Found " + m_aHeadquarters.Count() + " HQs");
        

and the query callback for the entitiesbysphere call

    protected bool HQQueryEntitiesCallbackMethod(IEntity e)
    {
        if (!e)
            return false;
        
        Print("[DF_AutoTurretFactionInjector] hq a");
        SCR_CampaignMilitaryBaseComponent hq = SCR_CampaignMilitaryBaseComponent.Cast(e.FindComponent(SCR_CampaignMilitaryBaseComponent));

        if(!hq || !hq.IsHQ())
            return false;
        
        Print("[DF_AutoTurretFactionInjector] hq b");
        m_aHeadquarters.Insert(hq);
        return true;
    }
    

(the log outputs 2x hq a, nothing after)

Pretty sure I'm doing something wrong in the query callback, but what...

Help would be much appreciated 🙂

[pliant ingot]

There are methods to get HQs on CampaignGameMode or on CampaignMilitaryBaseManager

Asfaik

Or you can get all bases through MilitaryBaseManager, check if it's Initialized, and iterate over it to find HQ

[cloud nacelle]

I'll look into that, though this was partially just an example, as i do need to get more instances of a entity that has a specific component

[ocean needle]

SCR_MilitaryBaseSystem baseManager = SCR_MilitaryBaseSystem.GetInstance();
array<SCR_MilitaryBaseComponent> bases = {};
baseManager.GetBases(bases);

could try this

[pliant ingot]

Then say what you want exactly, because most of cases can be solved without global search

[cloud nacelle]

fair enough
I'm trying to fix a broken script i found that updates the faction of all auto turrets (BON_AutoTurretComponent)
so, get the turrets then assign the faction based on the closest HQ

Is there any docs on these various ways to search through entities? havent found anyting past queryEntitiesBySphere

[pliant ingot]

You can mod this component to add code in init where you just wait until MilitaryBaseSystem is initialize all bases and found closes HQ

[cloud nacelle]

yeah ill try that, sounds much more sensible

ty for the help

[dire sinew]

EquipedWeaponStorageComponent
We're back with good old SetDammage 😅

[minor agate]

#enfusion_scripting message

[narrow aspen]

got a lot of this error...I use a component in player character to update score and register the component in a system (server side).
14:20:10.413 RPL (E): RpcError: Calling a RPC from an unregistered item! itemType='script::Game::IPC_CharacterScoreComponent', rpc='RpcDo_SetPlayerId'

[minor agate]

Show code pls

(Whole IPC_CharacterScoreComponent class)

[narrow aspen]

uploading. Can I DM you the file or project?

[minor agate]

I only need the script file

Why not here?

It helps other with similar issues in the future

[narrow aspen]

okay I upload the system/component file here.

so it is always triggered when the system using InitializeData() method in the component. And the component is in character prefab

[minor agate]

Your issue is that InitializeData is called from system, way before the component has been registered to replication, and InitializeData eventually tries to RPC

[narrow aspen]

thank you Mario. should I use find rpc item before actually do the RPC?

if(!Replication.FindId(this))
return;

it was triggered even in the spawn menu.

[minor agate]

Spawn menu is still during world init

in fact, even main menu is a world

[narrow aspen]

well thank you again. I solved the issue by checking if the player is actually spawned.

[red inlet]

problem:
I have 22 cannons slotted in SlotManagerComponent but only the 1st one named Turret is able to pull ammo from the vehicle trunk. The rest are named Turret01 Turret02 etc is the name of the slot itself representative of a Variable in script? If so how can I make it so the rest of the turrets behave the same way

to test it i have the cannon replacing the just the btr turret and it reloads just fine

[tawny lotus]

I would like to show some information (e.g., markers) on GM map. Any hints on what to look for or where to start?

[spark otter]

Im struggling to figure out how to update the players loadout preview in the conflict respawn menu. Anyone familiar with that system?

I have the player and the loadout, but I have no idea where I need to go from there.

[fringe prairie]

Trying to keep it simple, but there is a lot of data only server can gather and need to send to players via player controller. The codec itself doesn't have any logic outside of calculating how many bytes to serialize for a string for example. Not reaching out for components, etc. Just a complex class with a bunch of data. Before I had a replication sandwich with one class holding an array of another class, both with codecs, and have started ditching that and instead client side create that container and only send the embedded objects to players. Seems to be helping network traffic.

Really it took me a while to realize the power of replicating directly to each player controller, before each entity had a component with a rplprop for the network members, this meant for 10 devices, every player would recieve the replication bump for those 10 devices with 10 or more network members. There is a reason why this mod isn't public yet and in limited testing, but I figured out pretty quickly to leave RplProps as state holders if everyone needs to know about them, and just Rpc to player controller when complex data is needed by that specific player.

@fervent cedar this also might benefit you. Depending on how you need to implement it, now spatial relevancy really will dictate if 10000 rplprops hangs a player/server. I am weaponizing spatial relevancy by registering local entities (which are "broadcasting" camera feeds) to the local player controller when the onRplName triggers, and in the deconstructor unregistering it. Which is a lot better than me spamming Replication.FindItem(rplId) to see if that object server tells me is broadcasting is actually streamed.

[ornate flame]

Hey hi, does anyone know what happened here?

[fringe prairie]

Two mods you have loaded on server (or a single mod itself) try to declare the same class twice.

[ornate flame]

can i fix it?

[fringe prairie]

Remove one of the conflicting mods. Not easy to identify which mod it comes from from the logs. You can also try opening workbench with all the mods enabled (create project, open with, select all mods being used on server) then the workbench will point you to specific files that are bad in script editor, then you can find what mods conflict there.

[fervent cedar]

to me the problem of replicating directly to each player is
writing more code and total amount of more scripted commands need to run (as opposed to C++)

example 10 000 data items, with 5 fields each.
Means 50 000 scripted function calls per client.

Also imagine manually handling jip and live data edits.
Such as player5 joins server, needs to access all data,
Start sending all data (10 000) to him,
item5455 in the data was sent to him, but now was updated.
item 7544 in the data was NOT sent to him, but was updated.

All that micromanagment, is it worthj it in the end.
When I could have (non-spatial) replicated entities with RplProps instead.
They C++ code makes sure it's updated and jip sync'd.

[fringe prairie]

Yep, in my case I can afford to send updates with an entire network member array but worst case is 100 members not 10000 lol. Now there is encode/decode delta, mario might be able to help with that. You can still use RPC to send the data through player controller when players need the data, and have the system just sends one RPC with array, not 50000 entities with rplprops doing it themselves. I feel like if you can avoid it, players don't need to have data for 50000 entities, server can hold it and client can request through player controller depending on need.

RplProp does nicely handle the live data issue though, hm.

[pliant ingot]

It faster, but when you overload your server with 100k random packets - it may not be so "fast"

[fervent cedar]

how good or bad is sending one RPC with array anyway.
in scale of 1-5, 1 being horrible, 5 being perefect

[fervent cedar]

Yea so I'm not overloading anything (like updating all 100k items at once for example).
But that's a good point.
Does the vanilla rplProp and RplComponent system account for me making 100k data objects
Maybe yea, it's not designged for that so it freezes the server until all data is synchronized...

I've done a data manager before that just sends 1 RPC per frame for example.
Just handles all players so technically you just wait longer if there are too many players/datas.

That seems like a good way for some cases, but it's just so tiresome to write

[pliant ingot]

freezes
Don't think so, lags - yes, probably with random disconnects with stalled connection

[fervent cedar]

That's a good point.
RplProp is faster, therefor it's faster causing random disconnects with stalled connection

[minor agate]

Its faster if no use of complex data is on it

Rplprop on 2 ints or so will be faster than manually doing the rpc combo

As i mentioned before. It all depends on the data and how often it should be updated, and when

[minor agate]

Shitty rpc is just as bad

As always and as with any code, it depends on the developer

[minor agate]

Per frame is useless.

As replication runs every fixed frame

So you are just doing it in bulk, just with more work

[minor agate]

The question you should be asking first is why you need to replicate 100k items

[fervent cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

[fervent cedar]

Just asking in case I need it.
Maybe I want to allow players to give names to every rock in the game, but also see them on the map.

But just thiunking about making it easier and making a system so I can implement data replication
easier and faster in the future.

[minor agate]

Even on thar rock example. You do not need to do all that

Think about it 😅

[fervent cedar]

realistically right now I need a Rpl system to
1.
attach ribbons to entities, helmets, cars, buildings etc.
For identification.
Technically these could be thousands
2.
Custom map markers with extra data and 3d stuff

[minor agate]

You can achieve it with minimal work and minimal data in comparison

[sweet badger]

what if i put method arguments into dedicated useless rplprop attributes and call bumpme and then onrplname is my faster rpc method

[slow acorn]

For a custom backpack should we still report this error? 2025-07-30 07:30:16.212 RPL : rpl::Pip::ProcessNetToGame 2025-07-30 07:30:16.212 INVENTORY (E): CIRCULAR ROOT STORAGE FOUND!!! Please report via feedback.bistudio.com. Thank you. Details: Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et Prefabs/Bergen/RL_Backpack_Bergen_Black.et ...5 minutes later 2025-07-30 07:35:18.900 ENGINE (F): Application hangs (force crash) 303 s 2025-07-30 07:35:18.900 ENGINE (F): Crashed 2025-07-30 07:35:18.994 ENGINE (E): Application crashed! Generated memory dump: <REDACTED PATH>

I assume it's detecting the backpack inside of itself?

[hard fjord]

!verify

[upper kite]

Check your messages!

[craggy jolt]

What are the options to making configs more editor friendly? I hate how non-descriptive folded array items are. Can't I say make it show one of the fields like name instead of generic config class name?

Is SCR_BatchPrefabTitle a thing for configs?

[torn bane]

Nice, thank you for letting me know. The problem is in the mods setup, but I wanted to have confirmed that people are able to setup this invalid configuration. Please let the mod author know and they can ask me for details

[minor agate]

Yeah you can. There is an attirbute for setting that. Forgot the name. Will check and give it later

[craggy jolt]

I think I figured it out, BaseContainerCustomTitle but all existing classes relied on certain class structure thus none worked for me, had to make my own

Now if only you could make it also show an icon like weapon preview

BaseContainerCustomTitleField looks to be ready made decorator for a single property

[solid hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/tarantino-gif-19063923

love that error 🙃

[ocean kernel]

Love it when modders make clothing you can put into itself

To be fair I have no clue why the game's inventory system allows putting item in itself

Just another Reforger Quirk™

Same thing with being able to put a vehicle entity inside a backpack

[dark ocean]

what’s wrong with that? it’s nay be a valid case for a scooter, or a foldable bike, or a skateboard

[ocean kernel]

It thinks putting a 1000kg vehicle in a backpack is fine

If anything it should be disabled by default with an option to enable it

I have put tanks inside other tanks before

And helicopters in my pocket

[lime glade]

Hey I'm brand new to scripting, however I'm working on a V-22 Osprey. Anyone have any advice how to make a custom flight controller for it? Specifically how to change the direction of lift

[lime glade]

(I'm very lost and Google hasn't been kind)

[ocean kernel]

Can we have some script changelog for the exp

[desert escarp]

Would not recommend that as your first foyer into scripting, custom flight controllers are pretty complicated

However, if you want look into my mod, Realistic Combat Drone if you want to see how I did it for a client authoritative model

[torn bane]

There is no changelog for all tiny script changes, the best thing will be version control diffs eventually. but a modding update article for 1.5 might be coming, not sure if we have any in the pipeline.

[fervent cedar]

version control diffs eventually
Nice arkenfrog promised us version ctonrol diffs (eventually)

[lime glade]

Biggest problem I have is not knowing where to get started at all 😅

[desert escarp]

Highly recommend watching the modding bootcamps then

[minor agate]

There is one

[ocean kernel]

There is no "learn programming with reforger" guides so you need to acquire programming abilities elsewhere, then come back and use them in Reforger

[gusty pulsar]

Where I can find Arma Reforger ES api?

[torn bane]

A what API?

[gusty pulsar]

I found it, nevermind

[gusty pulsar]

Enforce script

or enfusion script?

[maiden goblet]

.c is silly and confusing, both for people and software like code editors; it's already taken by c/c++. Hope Arma 4 changes it to .es or sth.

[pliant ingot]

In most editors you can override this rule for project/folder

[minor agate]

Its .c

[maiden goblet]

first Arma 4 leak ahah.

[ocean kernel]

.arma

Arma has 4 letters

Arma 4 confirmed

[dark ocean]

it's been explained in the past that basically the development effort and risk of breaking stuff is too big for an (almost) cosmetic change, and that's a very reasonable take from a project management perspective

[maiden goblet]

Makes sense, just unfortunate.

[dark ocean]

though .c would be absolutely the very last suffix I'd pick as a developer

[ocean kernel]

What would changing the suffix break lol

[dark ocean]

infinite amount of places where it can be hardcoded because "this will obviously never change"

[ocean kernel]

Didnt know it was this bad

[torn bane]

Not likely to happen

[desert escarp]

A little confused here, this does not work on workbench

Works on Dedi, SP, etc... but do we just do ifdef to have it work in workbench

[pliant ingot]

how did you write it?

[desert escarp]

Same way as he did

[pliant ingot]

this should works in WB

[desert escarp]

I want to check if the server is running the code and if so return

[pliant ingot]

but also triggers during edit mode

[desert escarp]

It's returning on my client in the workbench

Would EnableStreamingConNode cause the "client" to not be a proxy anymore

No but currently m_RplComp.IsProxy() is returning false on listen servers

[pliant ingot]

it always should return false on listen server

[desert escarp]

So how can I check for a client/server that works both in listen and dedicated

[pliant ingot]

it mb return false for clients until it fully initialize, not sure

[pliant ingot]

!IsProxy

[desert escarp]

I do that but that also returns false for the client so I can't have any client side code running

[solid hearth]

Give me 50 minutes of mass file replace and debugging and it'd be done

[pliant ingot]

#enfusion_scripting message

[solid hearth]

I concur, .c is an awful choice.

[desert escarp]

if (!m_RplComp)
    m_RplComp = RplComponent.Cast(owner.FindComponent(RplComponent));
        
if (m_RplComp && !m_RplComp.IsProxy())
    return;

//Client BS

I understand that, then how exaclty do I bypass this check in a listen server

[pliant ingot]

Your entity have rplcomponent?

[desert escarp]

Yes

[pliant ingot]

when you check this condition?

[desert escarp]

EOnFrame

[pliant ingot]

mb try to define RplLoad for your component and set some flag to true in it

so we will known if this entity is actually streamed in and not created locally

[desert escarp]

Couldn't I just do

if (!m_RplComp)
    m_RplComp = RplComponent.Cast(owner.FindComponent(RplComponent));
if (RplSession.Mode() != RplMode.Listen)
    if (m_RplComp && !m_RplComp.IsProxy())
        return;

[pliant ingot]

Same as Replication.IsServer()

[desert escarp]

Really?

Im so confused on why that is bad to use

[pliant ingot]

So if we want to remove hardcoded check for IsServer then we shouldn't use Replication.Mode() too

[spark otter]

What would I look for now that ```cs
SCR_CampaignTaskSupportEntity

[pliant ingot]

I would start with this: #enfusion_scripting message to known exactly if entity is streamed in or just created locally

[pliant ingot]

Or using debug console/prints to print RplComponent.Role() and Replication.Mode()

[desert escarp]

Role is Authority
Mode is None

[pliant ingot]

Role is Authority
it's for you "bad" client?

[desert escarp]

I don't really understand what you're asking

That's what is printing out in the WB when I just press play

[pliant ingot]

So then what you want in WB? to run your code? but this is server

[desert escarp]

I'm using OnFrame to do checks for HUD theres no reason for the server to do these checks. I do that above so the servers not running needless code but this causes it to not draw HUD on SP and WB

[pliant ingot]

System.IsConsoleApp()

[desert escarp]

That easy?

[solid hearth]

That easy.

[desert escarp]

I love software development

[solid hearth]

And as mario would say I'd use the dedicated tool and not rely solely on what WB and WB+Peerclient is producing, results are weird at times.

[pliant ingot]

You can use hard way through PlayerController)

[solid hearth]

Is it really hard tho? It's sort of same concept.. checking if player controller exists.. doesn't exist then it must be a console... right..?