enfusion_scripting

[late locust]

Will try, thanks

[pliant ingot]

also if your item is attached to something else and its streamed in then your item also be streamed in

[late locust]

Im trying to do it for a vehicle

[tough cave]

just curious, were some of the PS5 crashes fixed internally by BI or was it a problem with mods using certain scripting stuff that's less reliable?

[late locust]

So if I stream out my vehicle, all occupants are also streamed out?

Also does authority need to do that?

[pliant ingot]

yes, only server can do this

[late locust]

Ohh I see

[pliant ingot]

I don't known if occupants are attached to vehicle's node or not, but docs stays:

Because node hierarchy is the unit of streaming (in general, whole node hierarchy is either streamed in or out on a particular client)

[late locust]

Hmm not working for me

PlayerController pc = GetGame().GetPlayerManager().GetPlayerController(playerId);
rplComponent.EnableSpatialRelevancy(false);
rplComponent.EnableStreamingConNode(pc.GetRplIdentity(), false);

[pliant ingot]

[sleek dove]

No they are not, since occupants are not in the same hierarchy as vehicle in replication, for optimization purpose

[late locust]

Well I didnt find a working way to force stream out anyway. But still good to know

[sleek dove]

You can just try to disable spatial relevancy first, it should unstream the vehicle to everyone

Since it is not always relevant, and it is not in spatial map anymore

[late locust]

I want to unstream it for specific players not everyone, if thats possible

or unstream for everyone then disable streaming on a player so it gets streamed in again?

But then my code should have worked hmm

[sleek dove]

No your code is unstream for everyone, and stream for your specific connection

[late locust]

Yeah thats what I want

[sleek dove]

I mean from the message above you wanted to force stream out an entity, so EnableSpatialRelevancy should do that

#enfusion_scripting message

[late locust]

Ah, yeah. So If I then EnableStreamingConNode(.. false) on an unstreamed entity, I should see it again?

Like it disables the "streaming system" and forces it to show again. Or am I misunderstanding EnableStreamingConNode

[sleek dove]

Yeah exactly, if you do enable false with EnableSpatialRelevancy on an entity that is not spatial, it will stream it to you

[late locust]

Can I do that on same frame?

So its not fast enough to unstream and restream and just keeps it there?

[sleek dove]

Yeah, it will be fine

The changes will only get process on next replication tick anyway

[sleek dove]

If you look at inventory virtual node (Prefabs\Items\Core\Inventory_Virtual_Entity.et), it is exactly how it is setup, so we can tell exactly which connection needs to have the inventory content or not

[late locust]

Alright, thanks alot

[frosty sable]

Has anyone set up EPF with Mongo DB? I have 1 server box hosting multiple servers using the same mission/gamemode. I would like to not use the same DB for each mod. We were running Json but ideally would like to switch to Mongo.

[prime quarry]

Gotcha, thank you! Right now it’ll just pop up next to their name when they chat. But I am working on a separate stat screen. I’ll give this a try.

[high hawk]

Yeah I had an external service of mongo running, I switch back to JSON as I found it more reliable

[frosty sable]

Oh really, I was hoping Mongo would have been A more reliable and B make writes a lot more efficiently. I have it running on my dev server and seems to be given a solid stable performance under a very light load.

[late locust]

Hmm only EnableSpatialRelevancy(false) does nothing for me
I also tried to set it in the rpl comp directly like Inventory_Virtual_Entity has, but still showing for everyone.
Is there a script that uses Inventory_Virtual_Entity.et?

[minor agate]

Doesnt vehicle get handled different due to thr Nwk component?

[sleek dove]

Do you have any other mods than yours ?

[late locust]

No just mine

[sleek dove]

And which vehicle? I will try to repro locally

And when do you call the method as well ?

[high hawk]

Look tbh, I think it is, I just had a cheap sub to mongo cloud which was shared so I imagine not being dedicated would affect read/write sometimes (in my case it did) otherwise it was good

[late locust]

Any vehicle but this is the one I tested{1FBB492E86002BF5}Prefabs/Vehicles/Wheeled/UAZ452/UAZ452_transport.et
I tired on spawn frame but also delayed 100

[frosty sable]

Yeah I am using it locally and it feels good to be honest, only issue I need to tackle is I have one server box hosting multiple servers and the same mission. Currently this will all point to one database which I don't want happening

[minor agate]

I am a bit lost, what is it exactly that you are trying to do?

[late locust]

Spawn a vehicle but hide it on certain clients

and then be able to show it on certain clients again

I also tried with visible flags, but then there is vfx and sound etc that I need to hide aswell, so I thought streaming out would be easier

[torn bane]

I think I had support for multiple hives already. So they can share the same db. Just host one proxy for the mongodb instance and connect both servers. Check where to setup the hive id. I think I have it in my readme

[frosty sable]

Thanks Arkensor, I am actually looking for the opposite, I have 2 servers hosting the same mission. I want them to save on separate databases however as the picture shows, if I point them to the same port and Database name this wouldn't this save in one database?

[frosty sable]

Sorry Arkensor I have miss read what you said and my brain skipped passed the word multiple

[torn bane]

https://github.com/Arkensor/EnfusionDatabaseFramework.Drivers.WebProxy.MongoDB see quickstart for full setup.

By default it will be hive 1, so if you launch both servers using the same db on hive 1 it can work. BUT there are some shared files, like the root entity collection that remembers what to save and spawn. those would conflict with each other and override. But if you configured it so ONLY players or unique ids are handled, then they can share it https://github.com/Arkensor/EnfusionPersistenceFramework/blob/armareforger/src/Scripts/Game/EPF_PersistenceManagerComponent.c#L103

i would personally recommend seperate hive ids for the two servers. your player data is shared anyway because it uses the accounts UUID that joins, so they can travel between. but items dropped on one do not appear on the other server

--HiveId=2 as cli param for the second server then

[frosty sable]

Thank you thats helpful.

[serene fox]

Hey, my API is working, but i got the following Error in the Log:

09:30:47.529 BACKEND   (E): SetHeaders - Number of strings must be even!
ApiCtx.SetHeaders("Content-Type: application/json");    

[ocean kernel]

ApiCtx.SetHeaders("Content-Type","application/json");

[foggy swift]

EDF implementation with mongodb works fine for my team and I. While there are some features I wish the framework had, we implemented our own custom stuff on top of the framework arkensor provides. Haven’t had any issues with it yet.

[frosty sable]

Thank you Connor, its working well nicely on just a dev box for me too

[foggy swift]

Using atlas and no issues on that front either 👍

[serene fox]

Hey, if i do it like this, my GET is not working anymore

[ocean kernel]

Well that's how you set headers

I think

name,value,name,value...

I might be misremembering tho

[analog python]

Are mods able to write to ReforgerGameSettings.conf or is ModuleGameSettings only for BI?

[ocean kernel]

In my mod called Keybinds Resetter I was able to delete InputUserSettings.conf on Xbox

Whether this works in current version or not idk

[sleek dove]

I tried it and it works, I can share video in PM if you want, I do EnableSpatialRelevancy(false) after 10 seconds, and it correctly disappear the UAZ452_transport on the client

[midnight talon]

How do I go about debugging Overflow in AABB, object removed from simulation? it doesn't give any useful trace in logs. Any BI can look into submitted dumps for me? it keeps intermittently crashing dedicated servers triggered by different entities, this time VZ58_stock_folding.xob') at <-nan -nan -nan> but previous few was some hedgehog barrier

[late locust]

Sure, would love to see it in action.
Btw does it work with host&play ?

[late locust]

Im really not sure what im doing wrong. But I cant get it to work
New project, MP test map, only UAZ spawned with this comp:

class SpatialTestCompClass : ScriptComponentClass {}
class SpatialTestComp : ScriptComponent
{
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    void LateInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        RplComponent rplcomp = RplComponent.Cast(owner.FindComponent(RplComponent));
        rplcomp.EnableSpatialRelevancy(false);
        Print("EnableSpatialRelevancy(false)");
    }
    
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    override void EOnInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        GetGame().GetCallqueue().CallLater(LateInit, 10000, false, owner);
    }

    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    override void OnPostInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        SetEventMask(owner, EntityEvent.INIT);
    }
}

[hushed swan]

I'm validating the player to see if it allows opening the box or not and it's working using the button, but the player can access it using the TAB. Does anyone have a solution?

[hushed swan]

How can I disable or validate this?

[dire sinew]

Override InventoryItemComponent::ShouldHideInVicinity

This method controls the visibility in the inventory menu for an item

[ocean kernel]

Did 1.4 bring any updates to systems, like providing built in feature to efficiently register and unregister entities?

[pliant ingot]

What's wrong with simple method Register(entity) or Register(component) which just add it to array?

[ocean kernel]

I feel like unregistering it through RemoveItem might be slow when I get 1000 entities

Or when entities are quickly created and deleted

[pliant ingot]

You can save index in entity/component or map<entity/component, int>

And on remove you just need to swap indices of item to remove and last and remove your item

[ocean kernel]

This is exactly what I mean. When you encourage modders to use systems to manage a lot of entities at a time, you could do us the basic courtesy of providing us with performant ways to add/remove those entities to our systems out of the box.

I know I can do it myself but that's not my point.

[pliant ingot]

There is bigger problem - there are no methods to iterate over all entities of specific archetype like in "normal" ECS. I think it will be better to add this.

[ocean kernel]

So they wouldnt have to register?

[pliant ingot]

Yes, it will be managed by engine entirely, you just define archetype (set of components) and engine will do everything to access them in loop faster as much as possible

[ocean kernel]

That's way better yeah

[sleek dove]

no

[sleek dove]

I would not be worrying about this, it is very fast searching into an array, even linearly even with 1000 entities. You could always use set, which is a bit slower insertion but faster deletion

Anyway, worry more about constant update time of your main loop, than just rare things happening once upon a time

I saw mods searching whole inventories of every character every frame, so inserting into system being "slow" is not really a problem

[ocean kernel]

aight bet

yeah I figure I will worry about it if it becomes a problem

[minor agate]

Its not really aimed for modders, so avoid it

At any point it could be limited based on how it gets exploited and modders thinking its some place safe for storage

[ocean kernel]

Hmm that gives me some ideas

[sleek dove]

From what I tested, if you save things with your addon inside it, as soon as the game will resave settings without your mods, it will just delete your settings, so it is not viable at all

[analog python]

Do you think there might be a way to persist client settings on consoles in the future without needing to rely on something like an external API?

[river imp]

So, i'm getting some child prefabs by querying the bounding box of a building. I'm then trying to deactivate a component on said entities. Any reason why this wouldn't work? I'm specifically trying to deactivate the ActionsManagerComponent. This logic is being performed on the server, is that the issue ??

I've tried everything that I could that would make the actions not appear.

I'm trying to avoid having to do an rpc for each of these items.

[dire sinew]

Why not override the prefab and replace the actions you want to hide with a non-visible action like this:

class ACE_NoUserAction : ScriptedUserAction
{
    override bool CanBeShownScript(IEntity user)
    {
        return false;
    }
}

[river imp]

Because I need to do this dynamically at runtime

[dire sinew]

Then override said action and add a toggle for the visibility

[river imp]

CanBeShownScript is only called on client iirc

[dire sinew]

But the toggle will have to be an RplProp, which you said that you don't want, but it's sort of a requirement if you want to do it dynamically to begin with.

[river imp]

meaning iI would have to rpc values

and I don't wanna do that for a potentially huge number of entities.

[dire sinew]

What exactly are you trying to do?

[river imp]

I'm gonna guess that deactivate has to be called on server and client

but in workbench as the server and client it doesn't work

[dire sinew]

Forget about deactivate. Components can't be deactivated at runtime.

[river imp]

You could have started with that lol

[dire sinew]

Again, what is your ultimate goal?

[river imp]

To disable a user action on an entity without having to rpc values to the clients

[dire sinew]

I mean your particular use case. Like you want to remove the door action for certain buildings?

[river imp]

No

[dire sinew]

How about a central registry for owners for which the action should be disabled? That way you would only need a single RplProp. The action would then check if its owner is in said list.

It's basically the approach we used for deleted trees, as that way you don't need a RplComponent on them.

[river imp]

I'm beginning to think that doing anything in regards to furniture on buildings just doesn't work lol

[dire sinew]

Eh, I did manage to make a script to query tables for placing intels 😅

[river imp]

I can get them

and delete them

I just can't seem to do anything else with them

[craggy kernel]

Does anyone know how to make an arsenal item take away rank once put into inventory? I do not just want the item to require a certain rank. I know you can do it with a vehicle, I’m just curious on if there’s a similar way with arsenal items.

[static vale]

How does one properly diagnosis a JIP or connection error? The regular logs don't seem very descriptive? sever has several dozen mods and we are not sure which one is the issue. We can't test them all one by one as the issue happens rarely and randomly and usually only with a decent amount of players.

[analog python]

the arsenal item ranks are set directly in the entity catalog, you can remove the rank there

[craggy kernel]

I don’t want it removed, I figured that out, I basically want it to take some rank away. For example, if I spawn a weapon I want some rank to be taken

[craggy kernel]

Or is that what you’re saying to add it there?

[craggy kernel]

Is it possible to add a cooldown timer on specific items?

[late locust]

One last question on this, is it possible to also send me the exact code you used? Just to check if it might be a version difference and just not working in 1.4

[timid citrus]

Does anybody know what script I can increase the force / velocity of ejected casings from firearms?

Alrady made the casing the minimum allowed mass / damping but need more

[ocean kernel]

Its in the particle effect I believe

[midnight talon]

Look at the class for Arsenals, there is a server method for when a client asks to take an item. Add some code to deduct XP or rank to an override of that method

[craggy kernel]

Thank you

[ocean kernel]

I haz weird problem

I have an entity with a particle effect as child

When I call Stop on it from a component in the entity it stops fine

When my entity is a child of another entity and I call Stop it doesnt do anything

Wat is going on here

[shy steeple]

@ocean kernel Could you point me to how your Arsenal/Loadout mod handles RHS assets? For context I am trying to replicate Add/Delete operations for equipment for a unit, such as addWeaponCargo or removeBackpack from ArmA 3.
I have managed to handle the vanilla game however RHS has decided to override BI and expand it. My vanilla asset methods cannot handle RHS magazines as an example, because the magazines are all missing RHS_CustomAttributes to provide m_sCompatibleSlotNames. I can't seem to find an "API" to work with their RHS_ClothNodeStorageComponent which is preventing me from bypassing their system even when overwriting the methods/classes.

My vanilla asset approach is pretty much the same for Weapons/Gear/Inventory

    static void AddWeapon(IEntity unit, ResourceName weaponPrefab, int slotIndex, int attempt = 0) {
        if (!unit || weaponPrefab.IsEmpty()) return;

        EquipedWeaponStorageComponent weaponStorage = EquipedWeaponStorageComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(EquipedWeaponStorageComponent));
        if (!weaponStorage) return;

        if (slotIndex >= weaponStorage.GetSlotsCount()) {
            Print("UCAMF: Slot index " + slotIndex + " out of range.");
            return;
        }

        InventoryStorageSlot slot = weaponStorage.GetSlot(slotIndex);
        if (!slot || slot.IsLocked()) {
            if (attempt < 10) {
                GetGame().GetCallqueue().CallLater(AddWeapon, 50, false, unit, weaponPrefab, slotIndex, attempt + 1);
            } else {
                Print("UCAMF: Gave up trying to insert weapon after 10 attempts.");
            }
            return;
        }

        SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent storageManager = SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent));
        if (!storageManager) return;

        bool success = storageManager.TrySpawnPrefabToStorage(weaponPrefab, weaponStorage, slotIndex);
        if (!success) {
            Print("UCAMF: Failed to add weapon " + weaponPrefab + " to slot " + slotIndex);
        }
    }

Utilizing SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent and its methods TrySpawnPrefabToStorage and TryRemoveItemFromStorage.

However as stated before RHS has extra attributes/components that prevent this from working. Originally getting:
SCRIPT : UCAMF: Failed to add item to RHS_ClothNodeStorageComponent<0x00000242AFE611E8>

I am currently trying to overwrite
RHS_ClothNodeStorageComponent: GetCompatibleSlot and GetSlotForItem
and
RHS_LoadoutSlotInfo: CanStoreItem
but it appears futile.
Any advice would be appreciated.

[ocean kernel]

It doesn't care about whether prefab is modded or not

[coarse moon]

Hi! I'm very new on this of scripting in reforger and I'm trying to make a component to spawn a explosion from a vest of a dead body. The component is there, I can assign a prefab explosion by hand or code but nothing happen. Any help?

[ComponentEditorProps(category: "GameScripted/Equipment", description: "Spawn explosion on onwer when is dead and remove body")]
class VestBombComponent : ScriptComponent
{
    [Attribute("{E7D7F7C2C1B4F1A2}Prefabs/Weapons/Explosives/Explosion_Grenade_M67.et", UIWidgets.ResourceNamePicker, "Prefab of explosion", "et")]
    ResourceName m_sExplosionPrefab;

    IEntity m_OwnerCharacter;
    bool m_Exploded = false;

    override void EOnInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        super.EOnInit(owner);
        m_OwnerCharacter = owner.GetParent();
        SetEventMask(owner, EntityEvent.FRAME);
    }

    override void EOnFrame(IEntity owner, float timeSlice)
    {
        if (m_Exploded || !m_OwnerCharacter)
            return;

        SCR_CharacterDamageManagerComponent dmgManager = SCR_CharacterDamageManagerComponent.Cast(
            m_OwnerCharacter.FindComponent(SCR_CharacterDamageManagerComponent)
        );
        if (!dmgManager)
            return;

        if (dmgManager.IsDestroyed())
        {
            m_Exploded = true;
            vector pos = m_OwnerCharacter.GetOrigin();
            EntitySpawnParams params = EntitySpawnParams();
            params.Transform[3] = pos;
            GetGame().SpawnEntityPrefab(Resource.Load(m_sExplosionPrefab), null, params);

            // Remove body
            RplComponent.DeleteRplEntity(m_OwnerCharacter, false);
        }
    }
}

[clever oxide]

How to get running Scenario ID on dedicated server? Backend API's DS Session : Scenario ID shows " "

[ocean kernel]

Calling delete on the particle emitter does nothing

RplComponent.DeleteRplEntity does nothing

ParticleEffectEntity.Stop does nothing

ParticleEffectEntity.StopEmission does nothing

Actually RplComponent.DeleteRplEntity does seem to work

The entity becomes null afterward

But I still see particles haha

Also how do I make all children on fire when parent is on fire?

[sweet badger]

GetGame().GetMissionHeader().GetHeaderResourceName();

[clever oxide]

thx i try it

[frosty sable]

By chance does anyone know what's blocking the movement of inventory items whilst in the swimming animation?

I have been a bit of an idiot and created a shipwreck mission thinking the last part I will look at would be the override allowing players to access the inventory under water.... 😳

[shy pond]

Reason: Index out of bounds.

Class:      'TimeAndWeatherManagerEntity'
Entity id:18

Function: 'Get'
Stack trace:
scripts/GameCode/World/TimeAndWeatherManagerEntity.c:448 Function GetDayTimeUIInfo
scripts/GameCode/World/TimeAndWeatherManagerEntity.c:429 Function GetCurrentDayTimeUIInfoAndPhase
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/Conditions/Game/SCR_DaytimeCondition.c:24 Function IsAvailable
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:215 Function IsAvailable
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:346 Function GetAvailableActions
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:436 Function DisplayWidgetsUpdate
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:426 Function DisplayUpdate
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/SCR_InfoDisplayExtended.c:551 Function UpdateValues
WORLD        : UpdateEntities
 WORLD        : PostFrame
  SCRIPT    (E): Virtual Machine Exception

Reason: Index out of bounds.

Class:      'TimeAndWeatherManagerEntity'
Entity id:18

Function: 'Get'
Stack trace:
scripts/GameCode/World/TimeAndWeatherManagerEntity.c:448 Function GetDayTimeUIInfo
scripts/GameCode/World/TimeAndWeatherManagerEntity.c:429 Function GetCurrentDayTimeUIInfoAndPhase
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/Conditions/Game/SCR_DaytimeCondition.c:24 Function IsAvailable
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:215 Function IsAvailable
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:346 Function GetAvailableActions
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:436 Function DisplayWidgetsUpdate
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/AvailableActions/SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c:426 Function DisplayUpdate
scripts/Game/UI/HUD/SCR_InfoDisplayExtended.c:551 Function UpdateValues

eh?

i just setup my terrain ant the TAW manager is freaking out. Never encountered this.

[pliant ingot]

SetEventMask(owner, EntityEvent.INIT); first in OnPostInit method to call EOnInit

[ocean kernel]

Where does faction color of GM icon come from

Definitely doesnt come from faction affiliation component + editable entity component

SCR_EditableSystemComponent does update color but not when entity is destroyed

[ocean kernel]

Do systems not run on client with Frame point?

nvm they do but InitInfo/outInfo is useless

[coarse moon]

Now when the entity die get deleted instanly and no explosion is spawned 🫤

[river imp]

The OnFrame event should be used as little as possible and you should be using a script invoker for when the damage manager is destroyed

From a quick look it seems as though they removed the script invokers for on destroyed(or im completely blind)

modded class SCR_ExtendedDamageManagerComponent
{
    ref ScriptInvoker m_OnDestroyed = new ScriptInvoker();
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------    
    ScriptInvoker OnDestroyed()
    {
        return m_OnDestroyed;
    }
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------        
    protected override void OnDamageStateChanged(EDamageState state)
    {
        super.OnDamageStateChanged(state);
        if (state == EDamageState.DESTROYED)
            m_OnDestroyed.Invoke();
    }
    //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
}

Heres a quick example

Then on init of your component get the damage manager component of the character, then call OnDestroyed.Insert and pass in your explosion spawning function

I personally wouldn't use this with a component on the character, I would add a component to a vest and then call Insert/remove on the invoker when the vest is worn/taken off

[coarse moon]

Thank you very much! It is my idea from the beginning, that this is usable by players simply using the vest. I have used as a base what you have recommended to make the script much better. Now I'm trying to deal with the issue of detonating the warhead...

[spark otter]

Pretty sure faction manager

[ocean kernel]

Ahh forgot to report I figured out. Made my own editable entity component.

[main crescent]

not wanting be funny new here but is scripting same as codeing and if so were would one start to try learn this

[boreal swan]

@main crescent Sent a DM

[analog python]

string scenarioId = SCR_SaveWorkshopManager.GetCurrentScenarioId();

[kindred vessel]

Anyone know how I can test this within the editor without a second player

override void OnPlayerKilled(int playerId, IEntity playerEntity, IEntity killerEntity, notnull Instigator killer)
    {
        super.OnPlayerKilled(playerId, playerEntity, killerEntity, killer);
        Print("Player " + playerId + " was killed.");

[pliant ingot]

Just run a PeerTool

But this should work and in SP just out of box

[kindred vessel]

gotcha, then i did something wrong 🙂 thank you for confirming

[pliant ingot]

Check HandlePlayerKilled

[rapid ferry]

you might be able to suicide to trigger this event. just press shift esc and then respawn

[kindred vessel]

Great idea's thank you very much for providing these ideas

I think my error is in calling the actual script. I've added a modded gamemode on the base, added settings to fill in but i do not see the logs

[kindred vessel]

alright, i figured it out

I totally misled myself by adding it to the BaseGameModeClass while I just could create a SCR_BaseGameModeComponentClass and add that as a component. the HandlePlayerKilled thank you very much everyone!

[river imp]

You should be using a custom BaseGamemodeComponent

No need to mod vanilla classes unless you absolutely have to

[kindred vessel]

gotcha, thank you very much

[midnight talon]

Is there any way to set RPL distance for specific entities? For example make loose items on the ground only replicate to clients within 50m?

[midnight talon]

setting EnableStreaming(false) on the entities until a player is near seems like it might kind of work but I think it would enable streaming those entities at default network distance for all clients as soon as one player approaches instead of just streaming it in for that one player nearby

[river imp]

I don't think there's even any scripted functionality to mess with the streaming range of individual entities.

I can tell you that it's probably not worth it to do on tick events for every player/item to check distances.

If you did do something like that clearly the player would be the best choice as there is a max of 128 and there are 1000s of other entities.

Do that though, and there's nothing stopping anyone from dropping a ton of items in one place, potentially causing server/clent crashes when they all stream in.

[midnight talon]

yeah I was thinking of disabling streaming on ground loot by default then adding a trigger area to player character that activates it on any matched entities in the radius

[midnight talon]

yeah this is already a problem in any persisted/EPF game mode that doesn't have a solution for it I think, I haven't looked into GC much yet but if it's scriptable I was thinking of trying to create an inverse of the nearby player lifetime extension that reduces item lifetime more depending on how many other items are nearby or something

[river imp]

Offer trash cans for players.

Make certain things delete faster using the garbage manager.

Searching an area around the player on tick isn't a good solution.

Could lead to worse performance.

[midnight talon]

Yeah there are probably a ton of work-arounds I was just looking for a way to also make RPL a bit more scalable with lots of ground items + players

but will most likely end up doing stricter cleanup or total count limits and/or changing to container based loot

[river imp]

I don't think you(modders in general) can do anything about that unfortunately.

That's already what network bubbles do.

[midnight talon]

Yeah I have been turning down network range and it's helped but I figure turning it down too much will negatively impact gameplay e.g. visible pop-in of characters and vehicles

Or do characters/vehicles replicate at a different range to that setting?

[river imp]

Not sure about that aspect of it tbh.

[midnight talon]

Will give it a try turned down to 50m, if it doesn't apply to characters and vehicles then that might be fine on its own

[river imp]

Why are you ending up with a bunch of ground loot?

[midnight talon]

I wanted to have good loot density, not just 2-3 spawns per building

some of my building prefabs have 10+ loot spawners

so when a group of players quickly approaches a town with 20+ buildings and server tries to replicate all those items to all of them it tanks FPS / causes rubberbanding

[river imp]

Crazy

I once tested the loot spawners on Arland airstrip and had 10 thousand of them and didn't really have any issues, a few people did when looking directly into the airstrip though.

[midnight talon]

but yeah sounds like that's not really feasible with Enfusion atm so I'll just have to crank down max item spawns a heap

[river imp]

randomly increase/decrease the call later function to not spawn the loot all at once

That could help if the values are high/low enough

for instance building x only spawns one items at a time because all of the loot spawns at a random interval

Won't help with overall loot spawning

[midnight talon]

the loot spawning is processing 10 entities per tick, 1 tick per second and seems to run perfectly smooth on it's own, after a fresh wipe when every spawner is empty / wants to spawn something it's smooth. Just after a few hours once all the spawners have populated is when it starts to become a lagfest

[river imp]

but it will help with performance

I'll be releasing a more optimized mod for spawning loot soon

But until then, you can disable the call queue of spawners if they have loot spawned.

and then when the item is picked up you can then re-add the call queue

[sleek dove]

Another way is to create a representation of your item, as a non entity like a class. Since you are mentioning loot, it probably means that no player touched to it, and only if there is a player near it, you spawn the prefab itself

[midnight talon]

yeah the system I'm using (based on CentralEconomy mod) has baked generic entity loot spawners with a component that spawns the RPL'd item, I might try something similar to the ambient patrol spawning logic to make it only spawn when players are close enough for it to be relevant but not so close that they can keep getting loot in one spot, hopefully the overhead of doing radius checks and spawning/despawning the loot entities much more actively doesn't outweigh the RPL savings 🙂 thanks

[ocean kernel]

How to make script editor not lag for a minute when opening scripts while having 50 mods loaded?

[late locust]

What is this for in a System? Is this data not set in the system config?

    override static void InitInfo(WorldSystemInfo outInfo)
    {
        outInfo
            .SetAbstract(false)
            .AddPoint(ESystemPoint.FixedFrame);
    }

[late locust]

Load less mods

[ocean kernel]

Genius

[ocean kernel]

It doesnt do anything, use the config instead (from experience)

[scarlet iris]

Hey! so I have very limited knowledge scripting wise, so I'd appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.

What do i need to do if I want to suppress these task notifications?

[late locust]

Might be an override or something. But yeah ill stick to config

[scarlet iris]

Do I just create a new script with the SCR_BaseTask subclass? Something like this?

[pliant ingot]

ExportToClipboard doesn't have any limitations like A3 version?

[dire sinew]

Reforger is still running the legacy version of systems. The new stuff they added is not yet functional.

[torn bane]

The config settings will be retried soon, and are only used for the diag menu. all system MUST implement init info.

[timid citrus]

Whats best class / method to work with cursor for UI in newest version?

[ocean kernel]

How do I set this to only show scripts from my mod?

[pliant ingot]

Only by prefixing every script with your tag and search it 😭

[ocean kernel]

dfhgsddgs

[pliant ingot]

It's why I just use VS Code

It much better even if you don't have autocomplete

[dire sinew]

Giving up autocomplete isn't worth it tbh.

[pliant ingot]

I extensively use auto, so it almost completely broken for me

[pliant ingot]

also, bunch of AI autocomplete, detaching FindSymbol and Outline to separate window and use win 10/11 snap feature and you can do very much

[pliant ingot]

if the outline also showed a tooltip (or right in the list) with symbol definition, then the script editor would become useless as an editor

[kindred vessel]

Terox, Arma 3 friend, I see you haven't received an answer yet, so I will give it as good as I can with my current knowledge.

Navmesh is part of the map or generatable in the scenario. What you need is a GM scenario or i guess combat ops with an addon within that addon you can create the LoadoutManager and it's selectable role, loadouts and more. Have a look at RHS they have preselectable roles.

As for triggers and ai waypoints I know Scenario Framework offers a lot of these things it might just suit your needs for a second addon.

[tough cave]

there's a chat command that will crash ur client. on official missions /servers as well.

[ocean kernel]

Lol what is it

[fervent stirrup]

I've encountered an odd bug and I'm ready to pull my hair out.

I have a custom SCR_InfoDisplay put on an overriden DefaultPlayerController. It creates widgets to display on the screen on callbacks.

It works in the editor flawlessly (even when going to the main menu and hosting a server, everything).

As soon as I run it in the actual game using the workshop version the widgets aren't on the screen, but the SCR_InfoDisplay is still working perfectly (I put a ton of Prints and I can see in the logs its working perfectly as expected, just no widget showing).

[versed remnant]

mod name ?

[fervent stirrup]

Its unlisted rn

[versed remnant]

Can you send me the project (or the downloaded addon as a zip) ?
I will have a look during my break

[quaint basalt]

So I have a simple map object:

protected ref map<string, RVX_64D_MFDBasePage> ROUTES = new map<string, RVX_64D_MFDBasePage>();

I am trying to fill it and retrieve data from it.
I wrote two functions : SetRoutes and InitializeRoutes which I run one after another in PostInit

override void OnPostInit(IEntity owner)
{
    super.OnPostInit(owner);
    SetRoutes();
    InitializeRoutes();
}

These are the functions:

private void SetRoutes()
{
    RVX_64D_MFDBasePage extraPage = new RVX_64D_MFD_FLT();
    ROUTES.Insert("FLT", extraPage);
    Print("Inserted: " + ROUTES.Get("FLT"));
}
    
private void InitializeRoutes()
{
    Print("Loaded: " + ROUTES.Get("FLT"));
}

But those Prints give me this result:

SCRIPT       : Inserted: RVX_64D_MFD_FLT<0x0000019F134CBEE0>
SCRIPT       : Loaded: NULL

Why is that? Am I missing something?

[ocean kernel]

protected ref map<string, ref RVX_64D_MFDBasePage> ROUTES = new map<string, ref RVX_64D_MFDBasePage>();

Mario would be proud

I think that inserted class is just getting garbaged after SetRoutes

without the ref

[quaint basalt]

Damn, that was super fast
Big thanks

[ocean kernel]

does it work?

[quaint basalt]

Like a charm

[ocean kernel]

yippee

[frosty coral]

What class is responsible for these controls hints?

[ocean kernel]

There is a config with them I forget the name but it has all hints in it

Available actions something maybe

[versed remnant]

AvailableActions.conf

SCR_AvailableActionsDisplay.c

[frosty coral]

Legend, thank you🙏🏻

[late locust]

m_mRoutes 🤓

[pliant ingot]

Routes

[ocean kernel]

Hes building react, call the cops

[maiden goblet]

Guys, did you know AI got good at Reforger coding? This game-mode written by Claude 4.0 in Copilot https://makearmanotwar.com/entries/60E108D10E842BFC

[pliant ingot]

I'm already use local model

[maiden goblet]

How many parameters?

[pliant ingot]

14B

[maiden goblet]

and how the fuck do you train that at home?

[pliant ingot]

I don't train, I just use qwen

[maiden goblet]

oh

[pliant ingot]

I tried ~23B, but it too slow for autocomplete on my setup

[maiden goblet]

So, what's the advatnage of local? over just using huggingface or even openAI api

[pliant ingot]

You are not dependent on anyone's service and its monetization policy

[maiden goblet]

I had one idea that could be useful for Reforger: vector embeddings for Reforger wiki + RAG then you could "search" the wiki by talking to an LLM

[pliant ingot]

Reforger wiki
Better to extract definitions and comments to it from Script Editor itself

[maiden goblet]

I'm used this plugin to extract scripts from game and dump them into llm context: https://github.com/pennyworth12345/ReforgerDumper

Would be nice if BI put Reforger's scripts on Github, then they would be in the training data for all the llms.

[sleek dove]

Putting it in github doesn't only help this, but it would also help to find every small changes that has been done in the script, so it would be simpler for you guys to see how it was replaced in a new version

[timid citrus]

Is there a page that shows api changes in each update?

[timid citrus]

Im going to start duplicating core scripts and feeding them to my chatgpt. Too bad theres no "Duplicate all to.."

[maiden goblet]

with Copilot in VSCode or Cursor you can click "Add context" button to add files/folders.

cann add all in one click

[timid citrus]

Ohh nice thanks man. Just got into the ai stuff few days ago finally.

[scarlet iris]

Is there a way to keep the markers the same size regardless of map zoom?

[ocean kernel]

how do I override a static method lol

or at least what that method returns

should I override the variable it returns instead?

[sweet badger]

You would have to update them when zoom changes.

[minor agate]

YOu have a NaN

[lofty stag]

Weird question, but is there a way to change the name a mod is published under? Mine is just showing my email

[ocean kernel]

how does one get a NaN out of a 0?

[sweet badger]

Division by 0 I would guess

[ocean kernel]

ok

[sweet badger]

Could also be other things though, idk

[tough cave]

PSA: Don't type ## in-game.

[ocean kernel]

Are you serious

[tawny lotus]

On a dedicated server, a GM player (client) spawns an entity. The entity is a modded one so I can do things in e.g. EOnActivate. I would need to know details like position where it was spawned on the server. What would be the right way to get this information to the server?

[ocean kernel]

Seems like this only crashes the client that runs it

[tough cave]

the faster Alt-F4 in a way. maybe not a bug.

[lunar wolf]

Dunno if this is the best place to put this but Im looking to make a leaderboard mod for my server where it will send all the info over to our discord and show a top 50 leaderboard for different stats like kills, points captured, supplies ran, etc. Need help on getting it started if anyone wants to work with me

[ionic compass]

ok so i made a script called jammingcomponent.c

Im trying to make a version of the command truck that cna be deployed on both teams that jams enemy coms by playing some audio files i made on the platoon channel of their enemy factions

im trying to add this component to the truck prefab in the prefab editor but for some reason my script wich is under my mods directoriy under scripts so /radiojammermod/scripts is not showing up under the list of avail components in the prefab editor for the copy of the truck in my mod directory.... what did i do wrong here..

[ionic compass]

hey brax this is a cool idea! id be down to help out as best as i can, i have a dedicated server we could run testing on and i play frequenly! hmu!

[river imp]

Needs to be in a script module

One of these

In 945% of cases in the game module

[ionic compass]

yo thanks for the help ill give it a go!

[warm void]

How can i get multiple loadout options in the spawn menu to show up in a GM scenario? I want to have 3 preconfigured kits/loadouts in addition to the fourth slot which will be the players saved loadout from the box.

[ocean kernel]

loadout manager entity

[foggy swift]

It does! Sometimes it’s hit or miss, things I’ve personally experienced is it usually will not show if you have syntax errors, and sometimes it breaks completely for me and I have to restart the tools altogether.

jeez i just replied to an old ass message lol. i love when discord does that, sorry dude

[foggy swift]

i recognize you from wtf. i recommend using EDF. if you have any questions let me know, i have an unlisted mod im working on with functionality like this

[late locust]

Is there any difference between these two?
Setting signal via action on all clients + server
Setting MP signal via action only on Server

[solid hearth]

Outside of the obvious being the MP signal is synced not really... Although excluding action stuff clients can set the value without having to run additional rpcs so... don't really see a reason why you wouldn't use an mp signal. That and I don't remember if actions execute on all clients or if they're restricted to replication range. If they are restricted to replication range then you'll eventually get clients out of sync.. Guess it's just going to come down what you're doing with the signal and if it really matters but like I said I don't see why you wouldn't run an mp signal...

[ocean kernel]

the results of your action are only synced within the replication range though

if its not a global signal

[wooden gale]

JSON say is correct but the server doesn't start what I'm doing wrong?

[coarse pasture]

Wrong channel, ask here: https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/976119935875026964

[ocean kernel]

whats the best way for me to get current movement direction?

without using any movement components, all I got is IEntity and Physics

[wooden gale]

My bad

[fervent cedar]

            Physics physics = m_OwnerVehicle.GetPhysics();

            vector vehMat[4];
            m_OwnerVehicle.GetTransform(vehMat);
            vector localVelocity = physics.GetVelocity().InvMultiply3(vehMat);

Sth like this perhaps?

[ocean kernel]

will try thankies

[shy steeple]

Is there any reason to not use this code

return PrintFormat("test %1", unit);

as a replacement to

PrintFormat("test %1", unit);
return;

In the context of a function of return type void

[maiden goblet]

Yea, it won't compile? void should not return anything

[shy steeple]

It certainly compiled as the function is not expecting to return anything.
I am simply curious what memory leak or issue I may run into without noticing in the short term.

return X() will return the return of X(). At least in regular programming languages.

[ocean kernel]

It works in script too, but sometimes it doesnt

[shy steeple]

Damn

[ocean kernel]

but when it doesnt it just doesnt compile, so you'll be fine

[shy steeple]

I wish it worked since 20% of the codebase is checking if things exist followed by an error message and return.

Would be nice to make it only 10% - for void functions naturally

[ocean kernel]

I use it this way in a lot of places, just missing the walrus operator

also not being able to pass functions as arguments to functions is making me blow steam out my ears when I think about it

because to send a response to a request I have to write 10 conditions instead of having a map of type <string, ResponseFunction> and then just call handlers.Get(requestType)(request) or whatever

[rapid ferry]

Definitely what gluten said. If you want it as an angle then take the dot product with the north direction vector and arccos of that is the angle wrt to north

[minor agate]

Just normalize the velocity @ocean kernel

No need for the expensive operations

The direction is encoded in the velocity

Remember velocity is direction times speed

Normalize and you get the direction

[ocean kernel]

So about the recursive script invokers

[minor agate]

No

[ocean kernel]

Did you know it throws VME when you login as admin in game master scenario

[minor agate]

Myself, no

Repprt it in FT pls

[ocean kernel]

Nah

[minor agate]

No

[ocean kernel]

Did u know the game crashes when you type ## into chat

[minor agate]

Yes

[ocean kernel]

Sweet

Is this a feature?

btw

18:51:08.443   SCRIPT    (E): Virtual Machine Exception

Reason: ScriptInvoker: Recursive call of Invoke!

Class:      'SCR_CharacterHeadHitZone'
Function: 'Invoke'
Stack trace:
Scripts/Game/HitZone/SCR_HitZone.c:66 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/HitZone/SCR_CharacterHitZone.c:286 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/ACE_Medical_Prototypes/HitZone/SCR_CharacterHitZone.c:18 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/HitZone/SCR_CharacterHitZone.c:523 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/ACE_Medical_Prototypes/HitZone/ACE_Medical_VitalHitZoneKillHelper.c:65 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/HitZone/SCR_HitZone.c:66 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/HitZone/SCR_CharacterHitZone.c:286 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/ACE_Medical_Prototypes/HitZone/SCR_CharacterHitZone.c:18 Function OnDamageStateChanged
Scripts/Game/HitZone/SCR_CharacterHitZone.c:523 Function OnDamageStateChanged
18:51:08.444   SCRIPT    (E): Virtual Machine Exception

@dire sinew is dis u

[minor agate]

Did u know the game crashes when you

[ocean kernel]

wat does -nan(ind) mean

[dire sinew]

Nan means "not a number". You probably have a zero division error somewhere.

[ocean kernel]

I am more curious about the ind part

[dire sinew]

I think it's just a C++ thing that nan's are printed that way 🤷

[minor agate]

You broke the floating point law.

you got a nan, with the sign bit flipped

[dire sinew]

Fun fact, I have nan defined as a constant in one of my mods and the workbench always complains about it when opening the mod, but apart from that it works fine 😅

[minor agate]

"nan".ToFloat()?

[dire sinew]

Exactly

[minor agate]

Ok, We will remove it

[dire sinew]

Nooooo

[minor agate]

You should have kept your secrets this time

What do you use it for?

[dire sinew]

I have a matrix, where each element describe the state of a 1m x 1m cell on a map. The element is nan when the cell does not have a road. Otherwise it will be a float for the radian of the direction of the road on that cell.

[minor agate]

Ok, definitely taking it away

[dire sinew]

I suppose I could use a value outside the range

[minor agate]

Yeah

avoid nan

It's infectious

If it ends anywhere in your calculations

the whole thing is wrecked without recovery

We added the warning later as we were getting weird crashes on matrices operations from public

This might have been the culprit

And issue is that it is hard to trace back

[ocean kernel]

Imagine making a game that crashes when modder types some words

[minor agate]

Do you want power or not?

[dire sinew]

I don't do matrix operations on it. It's literally just for compiling suitable positions for checkpoints. If the value is nan, further processing gets skipped.

[ocean kernel]

honestly? life would be simpler if it was way more limited because right now it is on a level where it seems powerful but basic features from real languages are missing

[minor agate]

Are you talking about matrix as in the script matrices or matrix as in math speak for a table?

[dire sinew]

Purely mathematically speaking.

[minor agate]

What features are you missing the most?

[minor agate]

Ah ok

[ocean kernel]

being able to pass functions as arguments to functions and being able to put them inside maps

right now anyway

I wanted a map of handlers for specific things

Instead of making 15 ifs

[minor agate]

There is a proper in depth event system coming

But it's part of the World Systems and World Controller combo

So until you get those, you will not get the proper event system

and connections are made/checked compile time

And there is a runtime aspect for connecting them, triggering them and disconnecting them

plus filtering

For those that need specificty

[ocean kernel]

would be better if I could make my own handler system

my mods are less reliable the more I rely on vanilla stuff

[minor agate]

This is more of a proper solution

Nothing like script invokers exploits of usage

Anyway, they are unique per system or controller

It's not a general one for all

friend class/method is planned as well

Other things I can't promise yet.

[ocean kernel]

map<string, MyFunction>

[dire sinew]

Great, so I no longer have to comment to tell ppl that a method is meant to be friend of a specific class 😅

[ocean kernel]

I'll just do map<string, string> and use ScriptCallQueue.CallByName

[minor agate]

There were other changes but forgot them, I will need to check

[ocean kernel]

[dire sinew]

Also I just noticed that I got rid of nan anyway in the latest implementation, as I switched to COO-type format of storing the matrix and got rid of the nan entries that way 😅

[minor agate]

sparse matrices? 👀

[dire sinew]

exactly

[minor agate]

What are you using that for? (Feature wise)

[faint yew]

Why?
Could you elaborate more please

[dire sinew]

I compiled those sparse matrices through scanning terrains based on a 1m^2 grid. The values essentially tell me that this cell is suitable for placing and what the best angle is, for instance, a road block or large fortification and so on.

[minor agate]

misuse probably (If it comes to base enf stuff)

game stuff could break between updates as the game is currently worked on

engine stuff is harder for it to break across updates

The event system mentioned above is Enfusion thing btw

[dire sinew]

For roads it works well, as they lead to really sparse matrices, but for flat and empty place, it really depends on the shape of the terrain how sparse they are, so it might be suboptimal there.

[minor agate]

array accesses are slow in scripts compared to other languages, specially on big arrays in scripts.

[ocean kernel]

how do I do something like have RplProp sync but only if the user is admin

[minor agate]

Did you test if it performs better performance wise vs locally checking around with traces on demand?

As placing things like roadblocks does not tneed entire map processed, just locally to it's bounds

[ocean kernel]

oh there is rpl condition

[pliant ingot]

You can enable streaming of RplNode for specific player(s)

[minor agate]

That would wreck everything else

Even rpl of transform of entity itself

[dire sinew]

The thing is there is more going in than just whether the location is suitable. It also provides the best angle, which is done through unsupervised machine learning on the matrix. Maybe eventually one could do it add-hoc, as you suggest, but I would need to implement said algorithms in Enfusion first.

[minor agate]

He wants to target a single RplProp

[pliant ingot]

Make a separate entity just for this...

[minor agate]

No...

That is bad practice

And waste of resources

[faint yew]

Yeah. Making standalone mods are more future-proof, less dependencies

[dire sinew]

At the moment it may take a few seconds until a location is set up, which is good enough for me. Enforce script is surprisingly fast, then again I came from SQF, which is magnitudes slower 😅

[ocean kernel]

will initializing a map work with just {}

ever

[minor agate]

list initialization or just the object itself?

[ocean kernel]

having to do map = new map... is annoying

[minor agate]

map<..., ...> someMap()

does it

it's the same as = new ...();

[dire sinew]

So is there even a reason to bother with new?

[minor agate]

yeah

when you already have the var somewhere

and want to do
someMap = new map<int, int>

or when doing it in a function

Method(new map<int, int>())

or return of new object

etc

Class someVar()
is just syntatic sugar for
Class someVar = new Class()

And
Class someVar = Class()
also works the same

It's what happens in attributes

[ocean kernel]

syntax highlighting makes it yellow and therefore ugly

back to new map it is

[sweet badger]

speaking of annoying things... green man, give null coalescing operator

[minor agate]

That one is not coming

[sweet badger]

D:

[minor agate]

And don't ask. We do not talk about that here.

[ocean kernel]

what about walrus operator

[dire sinew]

I believe += for elements of a container is still marked as WIP 😅

[minor agate]

I can tell you do not come from CPP 😅
As you would have asked for someVar = anotherVar = 5

[ocean kernel]

imagine having notnull but no try/catch

can we replace enforce script with dreamberd

[minor agate]

This one is due to possible obscurity to veyr high probability of abuse

as with the coalescing operator

[ocean kernel]

y'all are giving us the ability to get a VME intentionally but not catch it LMAO

[minor agate]

We do not want the script to become more complicated

With the simple things in there people already do not get it except for more seasoned scripters

[ocean kernel]

not making things easier for us promotes jank workarounds

[minor agate]

And with nature of modding, non technical people always go and try their luck with scripting

So due to that, it will stay simpler in many regards

[minor agate]

If you catch it, I bet you would do so to ignore it

[ocean kernel]

I would print an error tho

I know error logging is not something you guys are into since you have hardcoded all server crashes to "Reason: Unknown"

it would be way better than having 10 conditions inside the method

[minor agate]

issue is that it is very common for people to use this as a hack of messaging bus

Or use it in similar manner as if-else ifs

[ocean kernel]

ok

[minor agate]

For you, it might be okay to follow

[ocean kernel]

at least give me the ability to collapse code blocks

[minor agate]

for other modders would not

and if you do such hacks, debugging is painful

or studying someone's code behavior

[dire sinew]

I suppose assertive casts could make debugging a bit easier sometimes

[minor agate]

This I want too

[ocean kernel]

the language would greatly benefit from things to reduce the boilerplate

or at least I would benefit from it

I dont care if other people have difficulty following my code, completely irrelevant

[minor agate]

My biggest annoyance is the Cast/FindComponent combo

[dire sinew]

How would you replace it though?

[sweet badger]

green man... what about safe navigation operator

[open pier]

Anyway to troubleshoot entity deletions by script? Got a problem right now where after a bit of time, player entities and some map entites like our safezone gets deleted. There's no log outputs for this happening though so can't find the issue.

[minor agate]

Same deal as the other one

Similar reason

[ocean kernel]

make enum.ToString do the same as typename.EnumToString

maybe enum.ToString(bool name = false) to retain current behavior

[sweet badger]

i am out of operators to suggest

[minor agate]

could you elaborate?

enums are actually classes internally

So the ToString behaves the same as Class.ToString

It's why typename works on them too

and modding

and inheritance

The constants, internally they get interpreted as static const int FIRSTVAR

[ocean kernel]

for example

typename.EnumToString(ServerAdminTools_EPluginStatus, status);

could be replaced with

status.ToString();

or something

[minor agate]

enum SomeEnum
{
    VALUE1,
    VALUE2
}

Is compiled as this

class SomeEnum
{
    static const int VALUE1 = 0;
    static const int VALUE2 = 1;
}

with the exception that the class receives some special behavior for enums

[minor agate]

not possible

as you see with what I posted above

your status var is an INT

[ocean kernel]

I'm pretty sure it is possible

[minor agate]

SomeEnum.VALUE1 gives an int

because it is Class.SomeVar

where SomeVar is an int

It just does not work how you expect

[ocean kernel]

yes but you could magick it on engine side

or whatever

I just dont like how much boilerplate I have to write

[minor agate]

Yea but what I mean

It's not possible with current way the whole enum stuff is implemented

Because you lost track of where it came from

At that point ?. is more likely to happen

Maybe like this

[ocean kernel]

Also wrapping for log console PLEASE

[minor agate]

status.ToString(SomeEnum)

[minor agate]

or vice-versa

[minor agate]

Script Log Console or Generic Log Console?

[ocean kernel]

the one in wb

[crimson mica]

hey is it possible to connect addon to discord api ? is there a get or post function ?

[dire sinew]

See https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:REST_API_Usage

[crimson mica]

Nice Tyyyy !!!

[forest arrow]

Hello. Cant add waypoint to AI. I spawned a group RCS_AIGroup. Created a waypoint and using group.AddWaypoint(waypoint) added to group. In gave I can hear voice like "Guys move 100m to west" from AI commander, but bots still staying without moving. Who could help?

[dire sinew]

Your scenario might be missing navmeshes.

[forest arrow]

How to add? Maybe somewhere I can read the guide

[warm void]

am i on the right path here?

[dire sinew]

Yes, it was explained in the last bootcamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsL8arV1lMA&list=PLfUcrRpCM_fKjkTrkV-bqnknVbFCPA3YU&index=12

[ocean kernel]

Looks good

[tough cave]

do u guys just send two arrays or write Rpl serializer stuff for map data structure?

[warm void]

you are the goat bacon

[spark otter]

Were you able to figure this out? I've run into a similar problem I think: #enfusion_ai message

[forest arrow]

Right now in progress

[spark otter]

Same, but now I know there's a boot camp that could help! 😎

[forest arrow]

Do you know why?
ENTITY : Create entity @"ENTITY:2305843009213693994" ('SCR_AIWorld') at <7134.047363 99.118317 6273.741211>
PATHFINDING : Navmesh Init 'Soldiers'
PATHFINDING(E): Unable to open navmesh file ".NavData/soldier-navmesh/navData_0.ntile"!
PATHFINDING(E): Not able to load data.

I generated navmesh, saved to file and cant use this file in AIWorld navmeshcomponnet

[spark otter]

they start talking about navmesh about the 28 minute mark.

[forest arrow]

I found already prepared navmesh for edem and its working. group is moving

[spark otter]

I guess I have a different problem then. 😦

[forest arrow]

I need to spawn AIGroup and set cycle patrol in specific radius. Is it possible? somehow without creating manual logic to repeat waypoints each time

[teal vapor]

how do people extend bitflag enums in a manner that ensures compat with other mods?

or maybe i'm overthinking this, but it was a consideration I had as I was extending some enum recently

[pseudo merlin]

I still don't understand why this is used so regulary.
At least the persistand components could be casted once somewhere and accessed by using ComponentWithStuff.m_SomeComponent; instead of Cast/FindComponent over and over again?

Like pretty much all of the character components for example which will never change during runtime.

[minor agate]

Caching it everywhere can quickly waste gbs of memory

Not to mention you make the memory layout more sparse for the classes which in turn affects how cpu processes things more

And in scripts, where that is already bad. You make it worse

[boreal swan]

Even if it was just a reference? (If I understood correctly)

[minor agate]

Yes

Its about the memory layout here

If you use it on for example a component on a base prop entity

Then dont

Or in a tree ent, then dont

If its something that is instantiated 10 times only, then go ahead

I hope the point is coming across

[boreal swan]

Are you talking about CPU caches here? Like that it would make the memory usage less cache friendly leading to more cache misses and worse performance that way? Just curious to learn how things work under the hood 😅

[teal vapor]

this is about the bevy engine but the same concepts apply: https://taintedcoders.com/bevy/ecs

if you go pointer chasing you also kinda thrash the cache

[boreal swan]

Yes, this is what I mean 👍 I.e. would caching the references break the high cache coherency typical in ECS based engines

Haven't read for a while what kind of cache optimization algorithms CPUs use nowadays, but I'd assume that in any case the less random (and more predictable) the memory access pattern is, the better the coherency and thus also performance

[teal vapor]

yeah basically. modern CPUs use the branch predictor in combination with other predictors to preload cache (which is why we got spectre / meltdown) so yeah if your code path generally hits the same memory accesses the CPU will prefetch, but in a scripting engine the CPU has less opportunity for this because the scripting language is not JIT compiled to native code, so the CPU is instead optimizing for the VM implementation itself

which is why the memory layout optimizations matter so much too: you're already at a loss because of the VM, so helping out the CPU as much as you can greatly reduces cache misses overall

now i am not a game dev but have worked on full system emulators / hypervisors / etc. where I've had to touch on some of these things, but don't take what I say as 100% accurate

[boreal swan]

Interesting information in any case 😄 And yeah, I can imagine that even with one abstraction layer between the CPU and programmer the optimization becomes much harder

[teal vapor]

if you're extremely interested in how CPUs work / memory optimizations I'd recommend popping into https://twitch.tv/gamozo next time he's live / checking out some of the materials he's shared here: https://x.com/gamozolabs

I used to work with him and can attest that this dude knows CPUs probably better than some intel architects

[boreal swan]

Also there's a nice course about the topic by local university here https://ppc.cs.aalto.fi/

[ocean kernel]

Will arma 4 be ecs?

ToiletFlushWorldSystem, ToiletFlushController

[minor agate]

Ms Agner's is the best resource

https://www.agner.org/optimize/

All the manuals here

[minor agate]

Anyway, what is best depends on case to case basis

There is no general method to make it nice

as optimization never thrives in generality unfortunately

Also your target hardware highly affects what is best too 🙂

This is why in certain cases you see games that perform insanely nice on a CPU that is on #20 in top performant CPUs vs one in #3 where it would run way slower there

[boreal swan]

You can tell instantly that the author definitely knows what he's doing from the looks of the site 😂

[minor agate]

Also, avoid OOP if you want high performance

do data oriented and composition hybrid

You will see how much performance you generally gain by avoiding abstraction and complex data structures

as the CPU is uncapable of processing those properly

CPUs like continous memory access, and proces data on mass based on that

Instead of for example doing a tree with classes for nodes, and connections

Do a single array with smart continous memory allocation with no node classes

You will have to think more about it, and some generalism might be gone. But it will be WAAAY faster for the computer

[boreal swan]

Yeah, I guess the best option depends on the specific case, i.e. where the bottleneck is (like working memory of the programmer's brain or CPU features). If it's the former, OOP could help, but in the latter case what you describe

[teal vapor]

society if you could compile every variation of target-cpu=native arch and deliver the appropriate binary on download

[minor agate]

It's funny because the ones I talk about are generally not even taught in universities

It's something you find and are forced to do in practice on high demanding applications

Everyone comes fresh from university with OOP embeded like a bible

[boreal swan]

Check out the course I linked above, it might resonate 😄

[minor agate]

And working the other way is unnatural if you come from that

and it goes backwards from what you get to learn there

[minor agate]

I mean that is a plus of consoles for optimization tho

PC is the trickier one for this

same as mobile

[boreal swan]

There's a "story" about an uni student that comes to algorithms class with a superb algorithm. He challenges the professor and says it's much better than one that the professor showed during a previous lecture. The professor replies: "Have you tested it?" and the student replies "No, but you'll see!"

They then run both of the algorithms and the professor's one beats the student's one with a large margin. The professor ends it with a comment "This is why you need to know how to optimize for hardware as well"

[teal vapor]

idk about android but in theory apple can (does?) do this with their app submissions being bitcode format rather than precompiled bins

[minor agate]

When I learnt about these things was when I was fresh from uni and was working on a physics simulation engine on a team. And got berated for writting some really crappy code

[teal vapor]

but i don't think they recompile for each target device CPU. i mean currently you can't even submit for arm64e

[teal vapor]

and this is why rust is superior /s (not really /s tho)

[minor agate]

every language is 💩. You just learn to live with it and use what allows you to do what you need for the job

Even tho I prefer CPP, I also hate and love it

[teal vapor]

as a vulnerability researcher targeting c/c++ I highly encourage everyone continue writing in these languages for my own job security

[minor agate]

It would not be so much of an issue if developers cared to learn about memory safety and the quirks of the languages and implementation

The worse that you can have is someone that wants to use CPP like they want to use JS or Python

which is quite common

[teal vapor]

unironically I think Rust is a great way to force yourself to be more thoughtful about object lifetimes -- it's forced me to do so when writing c++ at work at least

getting devs to run target binaries / tests with ASAN would be a start tho

[ocean kernel]

Why not just add a borrow checker to enforce script?

[teal vapor]

two borrow checkers even

[minor agate]

I would have prefered for ref to be handled like std::move in CPP tho

Instead of being done implicitely on assignment like now

[pseudo merlin]

Well as an example: SCR_ChimeraAIAgent
In vanilla they cacheSCR_AIUtilityComponent m_UtilityComponent and SCR_AIInfoComponent m_InfoComponent; in SCR_ChimeraAIAgent which are very often used with the A.I. agent.
But there are many other persistant A.I. components which i use to cache in the SCR_ChimeraAIAgent by simply using the member variable.
This is okay cuz i only use it in this one "base" class right?

[minor agate]

I think something similar was discussed. I have vague memory of it

[teal vapor]

actually though? that would be terrible for ergonomics imo

[ocean kernel]

Do you know how to make the log console wrap through editing the qt styles or whatever

[minor agate]

Its probably not there for a reason lol

I just remember someone bringing it up at some point

[minor agate]

generic log of script log?

[ocean kernel]

The window is called log console

In wb

[minor agate]

generic log

[ocean kernel]

Or widget whatever

[minor agate]

You are out of luck

[ocean kernel]

Is the guy that made that widget in the prague office?

[minor agate]

I actually strongly believe that just having the simple plain pointer we have in scripts would have been a bit better

[pseudo merlin]

Or is this me? lol

[ocean kernel]

Ima swing by in a few weeks and I have words

[minor agate]

You can avoid refs/managed if you inherit your class from Class

then you have to manage the lifetime yourself

or use autoptr somewhere if lazy

[minor agate]

👀

[pliant ingot]

what a wonderful world it would be if an array in a enforce contained values, instead of references...

[minor agate]

primitive types are stored as values in continuos memory

[pliant ingot]

But classes - not

[minor agate]

They do

Use Class

[minor agate]

Anyway how is this relevant to you?

[pliant ingot]

So Class isn't ref?

[minor agate]

Did you break EULA?

[minor agate]

As I said

If you inherit from class, you are not Managed

[ocean kernel]

Does not inheriting from class explicitly mean it's managed?

[minor agate]

ref won't be and won't work there

and you have to delete it manually somewhere

It's also faster performance wise if your class is like that

for that same reason

[minor agate]

Yeah

from Game module and up

Gamelib and Core default to Class

The rest to Managed

[ocean kernel]

So what, class MyClass: Class?

[minor agate]

Yes

[ocean kernel]

That looks ugly, I'll keep avoiding it

[pliant ingot]

Just need to iterate over a big array as fast as possible at every frame/fixed

[minor agate]

I prefer to not say something I was about to say 👀

[minor agate]

You can just copy the classes before procesisng, if they stay the same overtime then it;s worht it

Just do it at the same time so that they are continuos (Hopefull, allocation could mess you up at some point).

Issue is that it won't necessary be close to the array allocation itself if classes

[minor agate]

Anyway for obvious reasons we won't provide low level stuff to script

People mess up heavily with high level stuff anyway

Atleast the high level stuff is easier to debug

[pliant ingot]

that's why I'm crying (||where is my threads 😭 ||)

[forest arrow]

I need to spawn AIGroup and set cycle patrol in specific radius. Is it possible? somehow without creating manual logic to repeat waypoints each time

[pseudo merlin]

You can try your luck with: SCR_EditableGroupComponent > EnableCycledWaypoints(bool enable);
Not quite sure if this is the right place to do it but at least it look's promissing.

[boreal swan]

Btw, regarding mostly future projects with Enfusion: are there any plans to provide a "stable" API for modders with guaranteed future compatibility when it comes to scripting? I would imagine that if there won't be such thing, scripting is gonna be hell with no compatibility and stuff breaking between game versions

I get it that the whole paradigm is different with Enforce Script. But I still think that some of the heavy lifting should be done by a stable API. Or am I completely lost here?

[torn bane]

Stability will greatly increase when we are done with all roadmap features

[ocean kernel]

Any ETA? Over time since 1.2+ the servers experience more crashes with each update

[torn bane]

I am talking about non breaking changes, not crash rate. That should go down with every patch

[ocean kernel]

Oh sorry. Anyway see #reforger_servers message

I thought it was interesting

[torn bane]

I mean each update with new features introduced risk of new uncaught crashes. So after roadmap completion this also happens more rarely

[ocean kernel]

Is crashing when typing ## in chat from a new feature?

I wonder how long that's been in the game, never tried before

[minor agate]

For past AR we are implementing certain things to make it better

For AR is hard to do so due to it already being am existing big codebase

And those changes, would break mods heavily.

Biggest issue that you have in AR, like Arkensor said is that you are modding a game that is being updated heavily stilk

So problems will eadily arise

Specislly since the architrcture there does not allow for certain compatibility changes

But things we learnt in AR are being used to better it for A4 from the start

Like no script invokers

[ocean kernel]

But you do have an event system so it should practically replace script invokers

So not worrying for me personally

[minor agate]

Yeah that is why

[ocean kernel]

So you're telling me

I can have an api router with event system right

[minor agate]

Up to you

[ocean kernel]

Yay!

Will it be possible to override static methods? And their return values?

I mean I can do it now sort of but it still returns stuff from the parent class

also is there a method in script to list all quads from an imageset?

Would like to make a page that has a preview of all icons in an imageset

[minor agate]

you can override static methods, and call super and vanilla

About the return value, no

[ocean kernel]

Big oof

Tbh I wanted a static string method that I would override in inheriting classes to return different string

[minor agate]

I think you do not understand how override is supposed to work in languages

you are asking for non determinism

the only case you can, even outside of enforce script is with covariant types

which also works in enforce script

Search for covariant return type

Seems to me, you are asking for overload

[ocean kernel]

Are there some upcoming code changes in next major update I could prepare for?

[minor agate]

not override

[ocean kernel]

I have a script heavy mod

[torn bane]

experimental versions exist for this purpose. there will be plenty of time on exp before it hits stable

[forest arrow]

Any guide how to create task for player? like objective with marker on map

[timid citrus]

#enfusion_scenario go find blackheart six youtube he has tons of videos about all that.

[forest arrow]

I mean from script, not from UI builder

[ocean kernel]

Is there an equivalent to ScriptCallQueue.CallByName that gets me a return value?

[dark ocean]

pass a struct in an argument and have the callee set result in that struct

[ocean kernel]

ah genius

I assume CallByName is blocking so I should have the output immediately

[dark ocean]

this pattern is also useful with ScriptInvoker and can be used with multiple callees (and depending on callee’s logic you can have the first, last, or whatever result). kind of a poor man’s voter pattern

[ocean kernel]

I just want a map that I will use to handle requests by type

in place of 2348235238534 conditions or switch cases

Looks like it behaves like calllater with 0 delay

So no I dont get the update immediately

thats ok I can respond inside the method I guess

It cant run protected methods? Ouch

Time wasted once again

[minor agate]

GetGame().GetScriptModule().Call(ClassInstanceHere, "YourMethod", /* false for blocking */, returnValHere, ...Params)

[ocean kernel]

That looks efficient

I hope its not slow or anything

[forest arrow]

Guys, any tutorial "How to create task for player with map marker using script"? Or maybe code snippet

[fervent cedar]

No script invokers?
How do we invoke scripts then?

[torn bane]

We also remove scripts

[fervent cedar]

Ahh yes, scripts were sometimes causing errros therefor they were removed :^)

[coarse pasture]

err wut?

[ocean kernel]

Awesome

[minor agate]

We also remove modding

[shy steeple]

SOLUTION: #enfusion_scripting message

Can someone write me a script to add a smoke grenade into a vest on any unit wearing ALICE webbing?
I have this function that works on adding items to the uniform and backpack but have no luck on the vest.

    static void AddItemToStorage(IEntity unit, ResourceName prefab, BaseInventoryStorageComponent storage)
    {
        if (!unit || prefab.IsEmpty() || !storage)
            return;
    
        SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent mgr = SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent));
        if (!mgr)
        {
            Print("UCAMF: Missing InventoryStorageManagerComponent on unit");
            return;
        }
    
        bool success = mgr.TrySpawnPrefabToStorage(prefab, storage);
        if (!success)
        {
            PrintFormat("UCAMF: Failed to add item to storage: %1", prefab);
        }
        else
        {
            PrintFormat("UCAMF: Successfully added item to storage: %1", prefab);
        }
    }

    BaseInventoryStorageComponent uniformStorage = UCAMF_UnitInventory.GetStorageFromArea(player, LoadoutJacketArea);
    BaseInventoryStorageComponent pantsStorage = UCAMF_UnitInventory.GetStorageFromArea(player, LoadoutPantsArea);
    BaseInventoryStorageComponent backpackStorage = UCAMF_UnitInventory.GetStorageFromArea(player, LoadoutBackpackArea);

    UCAMF_UnitInventory.AddItemToStorage(player, grenadePrefab, uniformStorage);
    UCAMF_UnitInventory.AddItemToStorage(player, grenadePrefab, pantsStorage);
    UCAMF_UnitInventory.AddItemToStorage(player, grenadePrefab, backpackStorage);

Not only did RHS write their own component for storage but even vanilla vests seem a nightmare.

I've pondered a tacky fix of filtering through the available pouches on a vest

SCRIPT       : UCAMF: Storage ClothNodeStorageComponent<0x00000195C4A1DE30> has 8 items
SCRIPT       :   - {B95BD66EA8F863C8}Prefabs/Characters/Vests/Vest_ALICE/Vest_ALICE_suspenders_2.et (GenericEntity<0x0000019590D01460> @"ENTITY:4611686018427388087" ('GenericEntity','Assets/Characters/Vests/Vest_ALICE/Vest_ALICE_suspenders_2.xob') at <1744.947754 39.000603 2917.479736> @"{B95BD66EA8F863C8}Prefabs/Characters/Vests/Vest_ALICE/Vest_ALICE_suspenders_2.et")

but this seems unlikely to work, especially once RHS is included.

//Function used in source code above
    static BaseInventoryStorageComponent GetStorageFromArea(IEntity unit, typename areaType) {
        if (!unit) return null;

        EquipedLoadoutStorageComponent loadoutStorage = EquipedLoadoutStorageComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(EquipedLoadoutStorageComponent));
        if (!loadoutStorage) return null;

        IEntity clothing = loadoutStorage.GetClothFromArea(areaType);
        if (!clothing) return null;

        return BaseInventoryStorageComponent.Cast(clothing.FindComponent(BaseInventoryStorageComponent));
    }

[candid garnet]

Delegates and actions? More C# keywords and systems? ☺️

[hushed swan]

Does anyone know why my friend's name appears unknown at workshop ?

[timid citrus]

He's probably shady like that

[hushed swan]

he doesnt receive e-mails or communications ?

[hushed swan]

the strange this is that the mods appear in the workshop

[timid citrus]

Yeah that is bizarre. Maybe have them show screenshot of their publish window settings

[ionic compass]

hey Zelik thanks so much for this tip it lead me to create my own custom component that i can now attach to any prefab i want! this tip was such a lifesaver! Im going to be publishing my creation on the arma reforger workshop soon once im happy with the audio node setup ill make sure to thank you in the description of my addon!

[river imp]

I really appreciate it, some people aren't even nice enough to do that.

[open pier]

There anyway to override/mod RplComponent so I can get outputs of whats happening in replication?
I realize I can inherit, but it'd be quite time consuming to replace the RplComponents on everything I need to debug.

[crude stag]

nice lol

looks like one of the scripters likes Evanescence xD

[coarse pasture]

Is it a flying mod?

https://tenor.com/view/nathan-fielder-nathan-for-you-the-rehearsal-the-curse-jogging-gif-3654050886818294527

[fervent stirrup]

I'm running into some issues with the Input Manager and Input Contexts that maybe someone at Bohemia can answer as most of this functionality is native.

1. We can check if an Input Context is active with

InputManager m_InputManager = ...
m_InputManager.IsContextActive("CharacterMovementContext"); 

But it appears this will return true as long as the context exists, even if the context is disabled (e.g. I am in the inventory) - See the picture.
CharacterMovementContext is considered active despite the bar in the diag window being low. I assume this is because of the context priority (from the chimeraInputCommon.conf) and I don't see any way to check the priority or if its "active" given the priority. Is this possible?

2. It seems that on EOnFrame(...) several Input Contexts such like CharacterMovementContext are not returning as active by the IsContextActivefunction. It works in the EOnPostFrame(...), however EOnPostFrame doesn't properly get the values of actions through InputManager.GetActionValue(...).

Therefore the only place where it is reliable to work with Character Movement Inputs is in SCR_CharacterControllerComponent.OnPrepareControls(...) but this is protected, so I have to mod this and add a ScriptInvoker to give callbacks from this function. I don't like modding classes for compatibility sake.

Is there a reason to the contexts being disabled mid frame or some insight there? OnPrepareControls() is running at some point every frame anyway.

[foggy swift]

that's from the grenade aint it?

[crude stag]

yea xD

[hushed swan]

Does anyone know why the NPC's clothes are spawning on the ground beneath him?

It's actually random, sometimes they have all the clothes, sometimes nothing, sometimes just one item.

[hushed swan]

[gleaming shard]

Anybody able to help me with a script that can make a particle play only during nighttime? 🙂
Pretty please - im useless with scripting and ChatGPT wont cut it lol

[minor agate]

Not modding DayZ anymore?

[gleaming shard]

Heyy Mario, long time man and nah, tried going back now and then but I cant get myself working with that engine anymore lol

[tawny lotus]

I spawn an entity. The entity has an RplComponent, but it's disabled by default. Is it possible to enable it runtime? FindComponent returns a null.

[ocean kernel]

Reason: ScriptModule.Call: method 'RequestHandler_GetMotd' is private/protected

Doesnt work in inheriting classes

[minor agate]

My reply was not really targeted to the encapsulation

But of a way to do it right away (The call)

[ocean kernel]

It works great in the parent class

[minor agate]

Enforcement of encapsulation was fixed on these in 1.3

it was not respected before (Bug)

[ocean kernel]

GetGame().GetScriptModule().Call(this, handlerName, true, response, request);

Should I pass the class from outside?

this refers to the correct class instance though

Because I am also logging it

[minor agate]

Just make the method public if you want to access it through these things

As these are called on global scope

[ocean kernel]

But it works in the parent with protected

Why cant it work in this class

[minor agate]

I think I am lost

Show code and reexplain like if I had no context

[ocean kernel]

  DoSomething(string handlerName, string request) {
    string response;
    GetGame().GetScriptModule().Call(this, handlerName, true, response, request);
  }
  protected string SomeHandler(string request) {
    return "hello";
  }

In the above example it works fine, but in a class that inherits this class it doesn't work

That async should be false though oops

Note in the inheriting class I am trying to call a method that doesnt exist in the parent, maybe that matters

[minor agate]

[minor agate]

before you ask

the async thing is not a thread

[ocean kernel]

I dont see why I should make request handlers public

Failing that I can create a class with a HandleRequest method and store it inside the map

But I really wanted to avoid having to define classes for every request

[minor agate]

Do you have the new class in what script module?

[ocean kernel]

Game

[minor agate]

[ocean kernel]

It's a ScriptComponent

[minor agate]

I'll check what the code is doing

It might be doing it based on context when compiling

[ocean kernel]

Wtf

I moved the call part into the inheriting class and it fails with same VME

I moved it into an override of a method

So I guess it's calling in context of the "vanilla" method

Which is a little frustrating

But it works if its public

But in the parent it works if its protected

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[ocean kernel]

it doesnt work even if the call is inside a new method defined in this class

Idk

Weird root parent class only feature lol

All I wanted was to define request handlers in a map to avoid 50 if statements

[minor agate]

#enfusion_scripting message

This is why I mentioned that

[ocean kernel]

So is there any easy way to do what I want

If I make a class for every type of request I'm gonna end up with like 30 classes

I want to avoid having too many classes in the mod since there's already like 150

[minor agate]

I can't suggest things without know the full extent of what your feature is supposed to be adn do

[ocean kernel]

Replace this:

void HandleRequest(string requestType, string someData) {
    if (requestType == "type1") {
        // do something with someData
        return;
    }

    if (requestType == "type2") {
        // do something with someData
        return;
    }
}

With this (pseudo code):

ref map<string, string> m_MyMapWithHandlers;

protected void Handler1(string someData) {
    // do something with someData
}
protected void Handler2(string someData) {
    // do something with someData
}
void HandleRequest(string requestType, string someData) {
    // request handlers stored in m_MyMapWithHandlers
    RunMyMethodFromStringName(m_MyMapWithHandlers.Get(requestType), someData);
}

Now that I look at it, it doesn't seem that bad of an idea to make it all public

Since HandleRequest is public anyway

Lol

[ocean kernel]

So if I want to use protected/private methods for this then I need to setup a scriptinvoker for every request type

[hushed swan]

Anyone know ?

[minor agate]

This is kind of why friend attribute is planned

[minor agate]

what mods are you using?

[hushed swan]

Shop System

[minor agate]

Is it the only mod you are using?

[hushed swan]

the shop system is the problem with NPCs having clothes on the floor, but i ahve more

Zeliks Loot Spawners , Zeliks Zones

[hushed swan]

I sent the complete list to your PM

[minor agate]

That is like 20 mods lol

Try it with only the mods needed for your use case

[hushed swan]

it's a dayz server, they need to be 😦

[river imp]

It's a known issue with the shop system "NPCs". Because they aren't actually characters(SCR_ChimeraCharacter) , the component that attaches their clothing doesn't replicate to clients or something.

[minor agate]

[river imp]

They actually worked, regardless of them not being a character originally iirc.

@rapid ferry Didn't they? or am I mistaken.

[rapid ferry]

yeah its a bad prefab setup probably. you solved this a while ago, so @hushed swan just enable these components on ur shop npc: #enfusion_generic message. me too lazy to fix mod

[river imp]

Your shop npc isn't a character, he'll have to create a "NPC" prefab with those components disabled and add the shop system stuff to it as wll.

well*

[hushed swan]

ohh ty , i try

[frail hound]

EntityDto test = new EntityDto();

test.params.Insert("test", Class.Cast(new Any<string>("test")));
test.params.Insert("tesstsasd", Class.Cast(new Any<float>(1.5)));
Print(Any<string>.Cast(test.params.Get("test")));

Why params like map <string, class> convert to map<string, Any<float>>... WTF 😂

P.S. Resolved -> I don't know why this is so implicitly, but "ref"... it's my bad... )

[zealous valve]

is there a function that returns a player's identityID?

[crude stag]

Hello I'm looking to get into scripting I'm pretty new to scripting and don't know a whole lot just some basics any pointer would be greatly appreciated but I'm looking to create a component that makes optics have a slight opacity when aiming to mimic having both eyes open witha bit of dof around the optic I'm sure this is possible but I have no clue where to start

[pliant ingot]

On BackendApi

[lethal thistle]

Hello, can anyone here help me or share a script that forces the player into a specific faction?

[pliant ingot]

Comments:

Called on every machine after a player is registered (identity, name etc.)
Reality:
identity = "";
Some time later:
identity = "<real uid>";
🤯

[dark ocean]

    Event is called when player connecting Session hosting current Game Mode where is required authentication verification via. platform services
    AuditSuccess() call specifically mean this verification was successful
    Basically audited player has access to persistency/ etc. related functionality provided by online services.
    \param iPlayerID is index of player in game, equal to the one assigned at PlayerController
    */
    event protected void OnPlayerAuditSuccess( int iPlayerID ) {};```
whoever wrote that comment must've had a stroke. I hope they are OK.

[torn bane]

Yes you need to wait for audit success to have passed

One or the next major updates will contain a new utility method with peertool support and errors it used to early or improperly

Until then consider looking at the wrapper code I prove in EPF mod

[dark ocean]

I am actually looking into this because I have an issue with testing my mod on a local dedicated server launched from workbench. neither of OnPlayerAuditXXX callbacks seems to trigger

[minor agate]

Its prepared for doxygen formatting

In code it will look weird

Notice that things aimed to be Names and References have capital letter

That is why it looks odd to you. In doxygen it will point to another page

[dark ocean]

makes sense

[minor agate]

This is important because if you do not capitalize it then doxygen wont auto link it

And adding the link right away in the doc is maintenance hell and clutters it more

[dark ocean]

that's what I'm having a problem with actually. WaitForUid never triggers

[minor agate]

This kind of backfires

As sometimes common words get auto linked. Meaning that in many cases you cant use them 😅

So you would see some comments trying to go around that in some funny ways

In many cases switching to UK or American versions of a word. In others making a typo on purpose or a random capital letter

[torn bane]

It won't audit success in workbench in current public build. It will be in the future. That is what I have a hack for onplayerregistered

[dark ocean]

Ah, okay. It only goes into that flow if RplSession.Mode() != RplMode.Dedicated, so it hangs when launching a dedicated from WB.

when launching a dedicated server from WB, is WORKBENCH define set or not? if not, am I correct to assume shit will blow up if I define it on CLI?

[torn bane]

A truly dedicated server will work

A listening server will not. What you start with peertool. Just hate the logic I have in my mod and use normal peertool testing.

[dark ocean]

the thing is I am launching a dedicated server and connecting to it with peertool. not using the listen server within workbench

...unless by truly you meant a normal production exe - which yeah, works fine

[torn bane]

Then it will only work if your server is registered to backend properly. Aka I could join if it was public. Anything else won't work.

[dark ocean]

I suppose diag exe does not do that

[torn bane]

Especially not with raw loading of unpacked mods etc. It needs -config.

There is no need to test on dedicated servers. They don't behave differently than listen server through workbench.

[dark ocean]

can I detect authoritatively that server is running without backend connection? something in BackendApi?

[pliant ingot]

I think you can read CLI params and found -noBackend

[torn bane]

No that won't help you for if you are not connected. Also that Param is due to not exist anymore

[dark ocean]

well, yes and no. the problem I'm after is that I need to access ENotification-s config on the server, which is not loaded there, because SCR_NotificationsComponent is attached to a player controller, and singleton getter accesses it through GetGame().GetPlayerController().

so I need to load it manually in that case, and to make sure it works I need to test it properly - and I won't reproduce it without a dedicated.

I can hack it ad-hoc, but I'd prefer to have a persistent solution in the codebase to be able to run dedicated+peertool setup in the future

[torn bane]

Player controller on the server must be retrieved by player id via player manager. That shortcut is for clients only

If you want reliable testing you NEED to use normal peertool. All our changes are for it. Dedicated server on local pc without actual full setup is not supported by any API

[solemn wigeon]

no more 200 players, and no more convenient real mp test without mod publishing

[dark ocean]

so what's the point of dedicated server tool in workbench, or is it considered legacy?

[torn bane]

Honestly no idea what purpose it serves. At least none if you want to do anything with backend data such as player identities

[dark ocean]

also with using peertool + workbench listen server you can't test any scenarios that involve no players online on the server. testing with a dedicated server is an absolutely valid scenario

[torn bane]

Sure but then you also don't have any identity issue as you will never ask for them. As no players are connected

[dark ocean]

missing identities is also an issue on workbench listen server; no difference really.

[torn bane]

There will be full support for it soon. You asked for something reliable in the future code base etc. So start testing with normal peer tools

[dark ocean]

dont use dedicated is not a solution for I have a problem running dedicated 😄

[torn bane]

You started to ask here about how to get the identity of a player. I am answering that question

[dark ocean]

no, I think we miscommunicated at some point

[torn bane]

If you don't care about identity, use onplayerregistered. It fires for all regardless

[slow acorn]

I don’t understand how using peer tool is recommendation for testing multiplayer. Since it does not behave like a dedicated server , thus making testing limited

[dark ocean]

my question is: how do I tell within OnPlayerRegisted that the OnPlayerAuditXXX will never trigger, so I need to go into the hack flow

[slow acorn]

There is a hack someone posted here a while ago

[torn bane]

What behaves differently? They run the same code

[dark ocean]

you can easily write code that relies on stuff that turns out to be attached/relevant to local player controller (or even sound system). it will fail on dedicated but work on a listen server

[torn bane]

Oh yeah you can definitely accidentally have things work that only do on this mixed client server main window. That's true.

[dark ocean]

I think the fact that they run the same code makes matters even worse, because for unexperienced devs it just magically works for all combinations (dedicated, sp, listen + clients) until it doesn't. and when it stops, oh boy, good luck debugging that if you haven't kept any convention or at least a sense of what is allowed to execute in which context.

[dark ocean]

a very common issue I saw is attaching local player's stuff unconditionally to the PlayerController. usually dedicated server works fine, but listen server gets messed for the hosting player as soon as another player joins

[torn bane]

I think the best solution for you is to wait for a patch. I got annoyed by audit sometimes firing sometimes not. So we will just fix that. Until then you have a solution available that I described

[torn bane]

If by works fine you mean nullptr exception then yes

[dark ocean]

np, I appreciate your help

[dark ocean]

a landing you can walk away from is a good landing. unless the server segfaults it works fine. 😆

[minor agate]

@dark ocean Do not follow this advice, it's very wrong.

Listen client does behave different than dedicated server environment.

Feature wise even

Due to the proxy/auth/owner model

You could have things that work nicely in listen client for example, but not in dedicated. And it would be expected.

They are not the same at all.

If you watch the replication modding bootcamps on youtube

You will easily see why

[coarse pasture]

Just gave up trying to sort our peer tools and the server plugins and just publish the mod to a live server for testing. Too many nuances that weren't surfacing when testing in the workbench

[minor agate]

Did you use dedicated server tool?

Or peer tool?=

They are not the same

[dark ocean]

the problem with that is a) you don't have the debugger and ability to step in, b) you can't see/filter logs live, c) that's a lot of turnaround time (at least for me, it takes several mins for my hosting provider to reprovision the server), d) you can't connect with several clients to a live server

[minor agate]

This one will launch an actual server (You should see the CMD window open with it)

[dark ocean]

in my experience peer tool works fine (and I often run WB + 4 of them concurrently), now that I hacked EPF the dedicated server tool + peer tool also does the job as expected

[minor agate]

Anyway Hovi

If you are doing things based on server and client, then of course it ill be broken

Use proxy/auth/owner model properly and it will always work

Once you nail that, you only have to test on one env and it will work on all

[coarse pasture]

I feel like half of my battle is getting the peer tool set up correctly (and there seems to be super limited documentation out there on it). Dedicated server + peer tool. I'd love to see your example of the setup/parameters if you don't mind Dming it o me

[minor agate]

If you struggle with it, then it means you do not understand it yet.

[coarse pasture]

But yea, its obviously not ideal pushing it out to a live server and asking for some actual help testing with real clients

[minor agate]

Watch both modding bootcamps for replication

We show both of those

And explain the model with practical examples

[minor agate]

also

You can get people to connect to your server launched by dedicated server tool

It does not have to be only virtual clients

[coarse pasture]

Thanks. I've done this and it just simply doesn't play nicely with the way that it's demonstrated. I'll do my best to get to a point of understanding it, would be easier if this pretty important testing stuff wasn't burried in a random segments of 2 hours videos. Beyond the fact that the -parameters are never discussed in full detail or documented?

[ocean kernel]

Peertool should configure itself

Anything other than it setting up itself (at least for the first time) is bad UX

It should take addons and addonsDir from WB

And just work

Instead of having to configure it manually

Bad UX seems intentional in the Reforger area

They give you an option to specify a ban reason when banning someone and then when you view bans you dont see reasons

Hahaha

[fervent cedar]

https://careers.bohemia.net/position/ux-and-ui-technical-designer

They are hiring peertool UX improver

[ocean kernel]

No remote no apply

[teal vapor]

Idk if you guys were talking about this but it’s really frustrating that PeerTool seems to be extremely flaky in CTI scenarios with duplicate identity errors

has like a 3% success rate for me

[teal anvil]

Getting this now, except I have valid coords

[shy steeple]

Prototype

IEntity player = UCAMF_Core.GetPlayerEntityByID(1);
ResourceName prefab = "{77EAE5E07DC4678A}Prefabs/Weapons/Grenades/Smoke_RDG2.et";
UCAMF_UnitInventory.AddItemToVest(player, prefab);

    static bool AddItemToVest(IEntity unit, ResourceName prefabToInsert, BaseInventoryStorageComponent optionalTarget = null) {
        if (optionalTarget) return TryAddItemToSpecificStorage(unit, prefabToInsert, optionalTarget);
        
        return TryAddItemToAnyVestPouch(unit, prefabToInsert);
    }

    static array<BaseInventoryStorageComponent> FindVestCompatibleStorages(IEntity unit, ResourceName prefabToInsert) {
        array<BaseInventoryStorageComponent> compatibleStorages = {};

        if (!unit || prefabToInsert.IsEmpty()) return compatibleStorages;

        SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent mgr = SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent));
        if (!mgr) return compatibleStorages;

        array<BaseInventoryStorageComponent> allStorages = {};
        mgr.GetStorages(allStorages);

        foreach (BaseInventoryStorageComponent storage : allStorages) {
            IEntity sourceEntity = storage.GetOwner();
            if (!sourceEntity) continue;

            ResourceName sourcePrefab = sourceEntity.GetPrefabData().GetPrefabName();
            if (!sourcePrefab.Contains("Prefabs/Characters/Vests/")) continue;

            if (!SCR_UniversalInventoryStorageComponent.Cast(storage)) continue;

            if (mgr.CanInsertResourceInStorage(prefabToInsert, storage)) {
                compatibleStorages.Insert(storage);
            }
        }

        return compatibleStorages;
    }

    protected static bool TryAddItemToAnyVestPouch(IEntity unit, ResourceName prefabToInsert) {
        if (!unit || prefabToInsert.IsEmpty()) return false;

        SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent mgr = SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent));
        if (!mgr) {
            Print("UCAMF: Missing InventoryStorageManagerComponent in TryAddItemToAnyVestPouch");
            return false;
        }

        array<BaseInventoryStorageComponent> vestSlots = FindVestCompatibleStorages(unit, prefabToInsert);

        foreach (BaseInventoryStorageComponent slot : vestSlots) {
            if (mgr.TrySpawnPrefabToStorage(prefabToInsert, slot)) {
                PrintFormat("UCAMF: Successfully inserted into vest slot: %1", slot.ToString());
                return true;
            }
        }

        PrintFormat("UCAMF: No compatible vest slot found for prefab %1", prefabToInsert);
        return false;
    }

    protected static bool TryAddItemToSpecificStorage(IEntity unit, ResourceName prefabToInsert, BaseInventoryStorageComponent targetStorage) {
        if (!unit || prefabToInsert.IsEmpty() || !targetStorage) return false;

        SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent mgr = SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent.Cast(unit.FindComponent(SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent));
        if (!mgr) {
            Print("UCAMF: Missing InventoryStorageManagerComponent in TryAddItemToSpecificStorage");
            return false;
        }

        if (mgr.TrySpawnPrefabToStorage(prefabToInsert, targetStorage)) {
            PrintFormat("UCAMF: Successfully inserted into specific storage: %1", targetStorage.ToString());
            return true;
        }
        
        PrintFormat("UCAMF: Failed to insert into specified storage: %1", targetStorage.ToString());
        return false;
        
    }

[open pier]

So taking advantage of this will help with the issue I have of, "it works in workbench, not on the DS"?
Made a few features and it comes down to this. Started to do testing with the DS Tool to better test what is ran on server and client, but from what I read this would essentially be useless?

[hushed swan]

How can I disable the player from seeing a box and accessing it via "TAB"?

[pseudo merlin]

I used Peer Tool couple times in the past and the things i've tested worked.
However ppl with real dedicated servers told me they did not work, so i tryed with the server.exe ( locally ) and they did infact not work.
So since then i only use the server.exe locally hosted to test anything mp related.

[minor agate]

This is not for tools

[slow acorn]

I think if you understand how peer tool works and what you’re testing entirely then peer tool is good. Also slightly faster to boot? Otherwise for testing methods that require replication, sever.exe seems like the best option

Testing with the server tool could be made much easier if the restart was automated (aka. close the 2+ windows and relaunch with one click ). Also the ability to live tail all peer logs

[dark ocean]

you can display logs live within the peer window by shift + ~

[opal robin]

What i doing wrong ?

[pliant ingot]

Just read the first error

You don't have class that mentioned here

[opal robin]

Now csript is available but engine is not starting

[torn bane]

Use force start engine for cinematic purposes

[solid hearth]

Here is what I used a few days ago

GenericEntity vehicle = GenericEntity.Cast(GetGame().GetWorld().FindEntityByName("bambi_killer"));
        CarControllerComponent controller = CarControllerComponent.Cast(vehicle.FindComponent(CarControllerComponent));
        controller.ForceStartEngine();
        
        VehicleWheeledSimulation vehicleSim = controller.GetWheeledSimulation();
        vehicleSim.ForceEnableSimulation();
        vehicleSim.SetGear(4);
        vehicleSim.SetBreak(0, false);
        vehicleSim.SetClutch(1);
        vehicleSim.SetThrottle(1);

[ocean kernel]

So

map<script, ref ScriptInvoker>

How bad are scriptinvokers in general?

[frail hound]

@torn bane Arkensor, hi... Sorry for tag, but i have a question that has been discussed for some time in "enfusion scripting". I saw that there are problems with limited network resource in arma reforger. I would like to understand an optimized or correct way to increase the limits, perhaps not to use JsonApiStruct, or for example hang another application and stream read the file to which the data will be written from arma reforger... Perhaps there are some sensible thoughts on how to get sufficient volume without untraceable errors?