reforger_feedback

[waxen holly]

its not nearly as bad now as it was when reforger first came out and soldiers would dramatically fall backwards like it was some kind of B rated 80s war movie and have cockroach corpses

but its still not immersive to walk around and see the same death poses all the time

[simple kindle]

what are you talking about ? we have ragdoll deaths now, looks even better when trying to run over some ai, but its different for each player cause its not server calculated ragdoll but only client side

[real dome]

There are ragdoll deaths, sometimes you may see a dead body in a laying position and its because they were first knocked unkon

[marble kindle]

There should actually be more uncon animations but they're currently not showing up due to a bug or something

[real dome]

Momo thought they were in experiemental but werent could be that its internally but just not added on to public

[marble kindle]

They do show up in workbench, so it's an easy mistake

[foggy wyvern]

when I try to join a server that uses a mod that is no longer on the workshop I get a dialog saying "Internal error has occurred"

[half radish]

mrng... ambidextrous player animations and the ability to roll to your side while prone....

[stray frost]

Would be nice to get those back

[sharp urchin]

Im hoping the Devs (more for arma 4) put a higher priority on giving us alot more animations especially conditional and transitional ones. One of the reasons firefights felt so "samey" in the previous titles is that units just dont have that many movements that look realistic besides their stances and get in/get out. Having units look like their properly adjusting weight when running uphill, downhill, bracing for small jumps falls and varying degrees of landing animations as well as being bumped by other units, vehicles etc. Kicking nudging doors, and entry clear animations would be nice but I doubt theyll ever give us those for actual gameplay Thats the thing that always irked me most about new DLCs -they show all these cool moves actors are doing in cut scenes but once you're in game you realize that all those new animations spent in their in-house recording studio were spent entirely on Cut-Scenes which are basically experienced once and done but nothing new in combat.

[fair dove]

would really love the ability for server owners to be able to reserve at least one player slot.

[violet vale]

properly adjusting weight when running uphill, downhill

that is already the case, we have different uphill and downhill locomotion animation 😉

[sharp urchin]

Great to hear that

[nova quest]

Problem of localization can be reported on here too ? https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/66/

[wary field]

I swear you can already roll when prone with Q and E like in A3

[olive trail]

In a3 you were able to lean while prone, to look around cover. I think he meant that

[wary field]

ah the side substances, never liked those tbh

[ornate shard]

Those are very useful in some rare situations. Also switching your rifle to the left side when peeking would be a welcome addition (though soldiers werent so proficient with opposite hand shooting in the 80s).

That brings me to another thing I have been wondering.
Why cannot the weapons be rested on the ground while prone?
Without working hold breath function supporting your weapon on ground would be needed.
And actually so would the hold breath 😅

[marble kindle]

There's barely any sway when laying down, does it really matter ?

[ornate shard]

There is definitely sway if your character is exhausted.
But yeah vanilla sway is too minimal for my taste so I have increased with a mod by quite a bit.

[marble kindle]

I mean if I'm exhausted I would personally catch my breath before ever thinking about holding it. 😄

[ornate shard]

Well sometimes in warfare you need to shoot before you can catch your breath 🙂

And I think even the vanilla sway is difficult with high powered optics.

[fair dove]

Guns with bipods can be mounted on ground

[cobalt agate]

Issue with player dropping weapon upon unconcious while ai does not (Has beenna thing since 1.0

[waxen holly]

yeah we need that back

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxKsdHMvKjaE_T3rcMioirMBP5EO4HjaDL?si=yfDHoeQFQ-XFkFkw see this clip

we already have the vertical stances except for the playing dead stance and the uh rubbing your ass on the ground stance

[half radish]

mean more in terms of dayz rolling around, where you aim and you can go on your side or back

[waxen holly]

like so

[half radish]

i dont know why you need a visual aid to go with it but yeah

[sharp urchin]

I hope sway is increased -cause really THATS the game. Little to no sway makes hits as easy as lining up a mouse cursor and feel more like "Mouse Wars" than handling equipment

[real dome]

there is no hold breath, once that comes i recon sway will be added more in

[olive trail]

is hold breath coming? I vaguely remember someone on here saying it won't be added

because we can lean guns on edges, and what not, so it's not necessary

[vivid night]

suggestion: a level of easing after releasing free look, rather than your head jolting back to front position, ease it a bit would be nice

[ornate shard]

It was needed in arma 3 where you could do the same thing.
I havent seen any dev comment about this topic though but I hope they will make it similar to A3.

[olive trail]

if they are going for realism-ish feel, then they probably shouldn't add it.

[ornate shard]

I dont know what feel they are going for but both for realism sake and gameplay sake they should definitely add it.

[olive trail]

gameplay I understand, but there nothing real about holding your breath and magically having steadyaim

[real dome]

makes it more stable def cuz you focus

[warm cypress]

why is there so much lag and input delay in the workshop page of the game now. it was present on exp and its been pushed to stable, and hasnt been fixed. idk if everyone has it but i know ive seen a few others complain

[nova quest]

I wish we could "capture" vehicle, like puting a flag on it, or idk, so your friend know its a friendly vhl

[ornate shard]

I feel like this is a bait just like your opinion on suppression.
Or then you just have trauma from games that did these badly.

[olive trail]

It's one of those mechanic that I prefer they don't add it, because it's not realistic, and I don't think it's benefit the gameplay, **but ** if they do add it, then it is what it is. It's not a deal breaker for me, like 3rd person is for example.

[ornate shard]

It is definitely a mechanic I feel that benefits the game and is realistic. I guess there is no point arguing realism with you but all the realistic things I want are for the benefit of gameplay.
The harder it is to aim, the less of a reaction shooter the game becomes. Tactics is what Arma has always been about.
Now I understand some people have a bad taste from some previous Arma titles with sometimes ridiculous weapon sway and I am not exactly after that. But rather a happy medium where you can only have short periods of more accurate aiming when holding breath, just like in Arma 3.

[olive trail]

I remember you saying that you worked in the military. Can you honestly say you know of any soldier who can hold his scope steady, like in games with 'hold breath' mechanic

[ornate shard]

Well I guess we are talking about different level of holding it steady here.
Controlling your breath is a big part of military marksmanship.
Especially when using high power optics even the smallest moves of your chest expanding or deflating can drastically affect your aim. And that is while prone and supporting your weapon on to something.

Not saying you should be able to magically have a stabilizer on your hands when standing when extremely exhausted

[olive trail]

That what I think of when someone mention hold breath. It's players standing up, or even crouching with steady scope on a target 100 meters away. This is how it's in all games.

[ornate shard]

Yeah so you have trauma from games that have done these badly 😅

[foggy wyvern]

I can hold my breath for 20 seconds would I be a good sniper

[ornate shard]

Best I can give you is 12K

[waxen holly]

there should be a queue system so i dont have to sit here and spam join

dayz has queues

[stray frost]

DayZ has a lot of nice features that I wish Reforger had

[waxen holly]

like what else

[stray frost]

• damage to weapons and other gear like body armor when hit
• vehicles needing parts to repair it instead of a wrench
• magazine repacking
• carrying heavier things in your hands like tires, fuel cans, logs, etc.
• being able to chop down trees and bushes
• various melee weapons
• arm bands
• crafting (to some extent)
• holdable and throwable flares
• probably other things that I'm forgetting since I haven't played in a while

For future readers: to skip a pointless argument jump to here: #reforger_feedback message

[marble kindle]

Since a type of vehicle pushing was mentioned, hopefully it'll have animations like in DayZ as well. Although I would expect so.

[waxen holly]

most of that is irrelevant in a milsim game

would be interesting to see how damage to weapons worked in arma

magazine repacking needs to be added fosho

arm bands could be useful kinda like how theyre used today in the ukraine russia war

flares would be good if theyre not already in the game

nothing else really has a point in arma

[stray frost]

Haha what? Magazine repacking? Chipping down trees to create better sightlines for defensive positions? Weapon and equipment damage? Carrying ammo boxes or fuel? Arm bands... seen any Ukraine footage? Crafting defensive positions.

[waxen holly]

yeah no ones chopping down trees in war to get a better sightline

great way to give away your position and its a waste of time

literally just move 1 foot to the side

[stray frost]

Well the squad platoon and company infantry field manual from 1982 says to do it

[waxen holly]

too bad you didnt read anything else i said before you replied cause you wasted most of your time typing all that

[stray frost]

Try putting what you have to say into one message and not 10 then. You typed your first one and I replied to that. I couldn't see the other 9

[waxen holly]

the soviet manual of arms also says to hold the AK like a dumbass doesnt mean you should

[waxen holly]

are u using a device that has a height of 10 pixels

i can see all the way up to here

[stray frost]

I'm on a phone. I scrolled up to see my list

[waxen holly]

"crafting" is nonsense, building barriers with a shovel like how you can in squad, now were talking

as if were gonna go collect wood and shit so we can "craft" a defensive position prefab

[stray frost]

I would. That would be fun to me. Different position types with different pros and cons based on what you have. Cut down some bushes and you can camouflage it better.

[waxen holly]

no its called milsim not survival simulator

fun to you and annoying to 10000 other players who came to play arma, not dayz on steroids

[stray frost]

... how are defensive positions not milsim?

[waxen holly]

crafting shit is not milsim

[stray frost]

Does BI even call this a milsim?

[waxen holly]

wtf do u think arma is if not a military simulator

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

survival simulator with 2 teams and way more players?

come on now

[stray frost]

Would you also call it a Sandbox War? Because I can put two words together from the tags too.

[stray frost]

Cold War sandbox

[waxen holly]

not mutually exclusive from military simulator

[stray frost]

Open world tactical shooter

[waxen holly]

not mutually exclusive from military simulator

[stray frost]

Neither is crafting

[waxen holly]

yes it is, no serious milsim game has crafting, if any at all

[stray frost]

It can be the first!

[waxen holly]

Dayz is not a milsim and arma is a not a survival game

[stray frost]

Kind of is. Your objective is to generally not die

[waxen holly]

keep dreaming 🤓 never gonna happen

[stray frost]

And that's fine. Of the features I listed it is probably the one I care about the least

[waxen holly]

Wrong, if that was the objective, you would avoid combat at all costs

the objective is usually to capture objectives by any means necessary. "not dying" is just a secondary task.

in arma if you simply want to "not die" you would just go prone at spawn and never leave. if you want to "not die" in dayz, you have to immediately start hunting for food, water, clothing, and a firearm to defend yourself

if the purpose of the military was to "not die" they would avoid war at all cost, which negates the point of the military

[stray frost]

Not very milsim then

[waxen holly]

evidently you have no idea what milsim means

nobody except for you wants to turn arma into dayz

if you want to play survival simulator play dayz. they both use the enfusion engine. why are you trying to ruin arma?

Luckily almost no one holds the same opinions as you on this matter and we dont have to worry about BI turning arma into survival simulator

[stray frost]

I don't want to turn it into DayZ. I quit playing DayZ and made my own DayZ like mission in Arma because I wasn't a huge fan of it. Except that instead of zombies it was Soviets... weirdly it's pretty much the same thing as Everon Combat Ops... only better

[stray frost]

I'm not trying to get them to turn it into a survival game. I only mentioned elements that would fit when in a milsim.. you even agreed with most of them

[waxen holly]

i agreed with about half

and no, crafting, melee weapons, and chopping down trees does not fit into a milsim game

i can see them adding a bayonet but literally nothing else

imma soldier of the US military, lemme pull out my handy dandy handsaw so i can collect materials to build a defensive position on my crafting table

[stray frost]

You know that melee weapons are used in war right? Shovels. Knives... swords if you go back to ww2 or further.

Chopping down trees has many applications. Creating roadblocks, cover, clearing sightlines, etc.

[waxen holly]

we are not talking about a pre 1900s game dont get silly now

[stray frost]

Shovels and Knives have been used

[waxen holly]

creating roadblocks by cutting down a tree is very ghetto and pointless, would just do it with army issued supplies like actual roadblock materials

[waxen holly]

send the video of a ukraine soldier charging a russian with a shovel

[stray frost]

And if your unit doesn't have access to those? Maybe you're special forces and were halo dropped in. Maybe you're resistance fighters. Maybe your truck carrying your roadblock supplies had engine issues. You carrying that shit 20km?

[waxen holly]

clearing sightlines naw youd literally just take 5 steps forward and youd be in front of the offending tree, of which you can also use as cover if you need cover

[stray frost]

How are you going to use a tree for cover if you're in front of it?

[waxen holly]

then your military is useless and you shouldnt have even been deployed there in the first place. special forces are not seeking to cut down trees or create roadblocks. resistance fighters are not seeking to cut down trees, and, as antistasi has shown, you can create a roadblock with simply a jeep and a few soldiers. the military can send another truck to get the supplies to the soldiers.

[waxen holly]

Dont be ridiculous, you know i was talking about the tree as cover without being in front of it

dont be deliberately obtuse

[pure gyro]

Those are user-defined tags btw, meaning users on steam have tagged those not BI

[waxen holly]

military sandbox

ah ah ah not survival sandbox, military sandbox

[stray frost]

Go read an engineering field manual. Spec Ops and resistance fighters have used rope across roads in ambushes to cut peoples heads off

[pure gyro]

That's not 'milsim' though

[waxen holly]

better add a feature that lets you pull a rope across the road the let you cut peoples heads off. do you even hear yourself? do you actually think this is or ever was regular military practice at all? even if there supposedly were one off situations where this shit happened, that doesnt mean its an authentic feature to add to a milsim game

complete waste of the devs time and no player will ever utilize these "features" that you wish so bad were in the game

[stray frost]

Are we in the Arma 3 section?

[stray frost]

I didn't ask for that

[waxen holly]

reforger is hardly a true military simulator, its a tech demo, a playtest, for a future military simulator. arma 3 is the precursor.

arma reforger isnt exactly a true video game, its meant to be the building ground FOR a video game. arma reforger was never meant to be a full blown arma title. just because i showed arma 3 doesnt mean my argument is incorrect. arma 4 will be a military simulator and arma reforger is the stepping stone to making that military simulator. again you are being stupid on purpose

[waxen holly]

you wouldnt have brought it up if you werent suggesting it to be added

[stray frost]

I wasn't being stupid on purpose. Companies change brandings all the time and I hadn't seen AR listed as a military simulator.

The rope thing was military practice by the way. That's one of the reasons why vehicles used to have wire cutters on the front of them. Once again, read a field manual.

[stray frost]

Yes I would. I bring things up as examples all of the time. Sometimes for things I want and sometimes for things I don't want

Any way it's clear you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to tactics so I'm not going to worry too much about your opinion on features.

[waxen holly]

its clear you dont know anything about milsim games because you want features that literally no one else on earth wants nor did anyone consider adding it to arma

i dont even think you can cut down trees in arma 3 exile

maybe im wrong but i dont think you can

[stray frost]

Maybe I don't. But I have been playing arma almost exclusively for 23 years so I know a lot about military tactical sandbox shooters.

Who cares if you can cut down trees in Arma 3 exile?

Willing to bet plenty of people would love the things I mentioned in AR/4 too.

[waxen holly]

no one wants the ability to chop down trees or craft shit in arma literally no one but you

[stray frost]

Plenty of people do. I've seen it as a feature request since A2 at least

[waxen holly]

nonsense, no one wants that feature

and we know no one wants that feature because they have not and will not add it

currently if you wanna chop down a tree you either blow it up or you run it over with a car, and no one cares to do that because its pointless

[marble kindle]

For a more slow and PVE side some of the features do make sense, I could see people sitting around a crackling fire waiting out the night. Meanwhile for fast paced PVP like Conflict, well.. even playing a medic isn't worth it there, too slow. I think we should dip though, the mods will be here any moment ready to clear this channel. 👀

[stray frost]

I mean there's a mod for it with 7000 downloads in AR already so some people obviously want it

Maybe you should stop trying to to tell me what other people want. I'm sure plenty don't care but some would love it.

[waxen holly]

proof

[stray frost]

Oh wow man. You're so right! It totally is. Im sorry for arguing with you Master of the universe and he who speaks for all.

Aki is probably right and this conversation probably will piss some people off. You have a good night!

[calm hearth]

Game Master:

• I suggest making the UI more customizable, allowing players to select more options at the expense of reducing the UI size.

• The GM is currently facing challenges with placement. It would be beneficial to revisit 3den Enhanced for potential improvements. Additionally, enabling control over camera speed while actively using GM, allowing vehicles to align with either sea level or terrain through a checkbox, and ensuring placed objects interact with the ground would enhance functionality.

• The Game Master could benefit from additional player controls to address anti-social behavior. These could include the ability to restrain a player or to enforce an attention posture animation.

Base Game Animations:

• In Arma, certain animations have been popular within communities, such as:
  • Salute
  • Sitting
    Incorporating these animations through a radial menu system would be advantageous, potentially extending to include modded animations from prominent modders, contingent upon their consent.

Placeable:

• In previous updates, the introduction of buildables and placeables was a positive development. However, their inability to be constructed on other buildables has been a limitation. A recent mod has addressed this issue, and integrating this functionality into the main game could be beneficial if deemed practical.

• There should also be enhanced interactivity with placeables, such as allowing players to adjust the height and placement distance of a placeable object.

Vehicle Seating:

• It would be great to be able to use the current system which allows players o pull out binos, to also be selectable to pull out weapons and use them, This would also give more of a use to smaller weapons in more enclosed vehicles while also giving the ability to break the internal window or lower it to shoot out of it.

• It would be great to have the ability to Drop down when on a MG to have cover while in a vehicle, this could also be used to be an action for turning in and out

[rare pilot]

Technically, both sitting and saluting are in the game already
Hold ~ to open the radial menu and salute
And if you stand near certain sandbag structures you'll see an action to Loiter, which is just sitting down near the sandbags

[calm hearth]

Really?

I have seen AI do it but never knew

Ya its a mod, not in main game

[brisk brook]

It is in the main game

[ornate shard]

No what does milsim mean?

Because I think quite a few things @stray frost suggested would benefit the game.

[real dome]

Chopping down trees was a big feature for sog prairie fire and people used it a lot and when free form base building comes trees will be necessarry if you wanna build fobs in the forrest, or if you wanna clear a landing zone for a helo

[real dome]

Its in the main game

[cobalt agate]

Medical assistance requiring you look at a very specific spot rather than the whole limb is all good until the person is partially clipping in the ground

[rare pilot]

It is in the main game

This is a vanilla feature

And so is this

[olive trail]

The game has a serious lack of taunt animations.

[warm cypress]

it would be awesome if we could cut down trees and shit. actually change the landscape

[upbeat hill]

Tree removal action, uses shovel

[waxen holly]

no it would be useless

[oak flare]

Cutting down a tree with a shovel is lame and cringe imo. Cutting down a tree with a 500lb bomb would be pretty cool.

[real dome]

dude wheres your vision why would it be uselles, do you not play arma

[waxen holly]

Whens the last time a soldier pulled out his trusty axe in the middle of battle to chop down a tree

50 years ago? 60?

[real dome]

my man, to clear a helizone, to make area for a base

dude we are in the 80s and fighting in an island we cant get excavators

[waxen holly]

That wouldnt even be worth the time at all, youll be sitting there chopping down about 50 trees when you couldve just landed a heli in the clearing just a few dozen yards over that way

[real dome]

dudeyou are just arguing to argue

[waxen holly]

they do not need excavators

[waxen holly]

this is not a point

[real dome]

people give you points that its very usefull and ur like whens the last time people did that, 50 years ago?

[waxen holly]

putting a base in the middle of a forest where there are not even roads is also a really stupid idea, youd have to clear out more trees to also make a road for vehicles to come and go

[real dome]

woods are great to hide bases

[waxen holly]

no player wants to spend 2 hours cutting down trees to make a base

[real dome]

arguing with you is pointless

[waxen holly]

i explained how their points are invalid

[waxen holly]

ok run away cuz you dont have any defense

[real dome]

well you do you, good luck

[waxen holly]

lmao keyboard warriors pretending they would actually utilize axe to cut down trees in arma

no you wouldnt stop pretending you would

[real dome]

Lol

[rare pilot]

The united states had this neat thing called a Daisy Cutter, used extensively from its creation and modernized to this very day
Look it up

The TLDR of it is
If theres no landing zone
MAKE one

[waxen holly]

Well there you go drop a bomb to cut down trees, not whip out a goddamn axe

[real dome]

you cant always do that lol

[rare pilot]

The point is there should be ways to remove trees

[waxen holly]

sure you can

[rare pilot]

Planting C4, driving into them, shooting them, digging their roots up

[waxen holly]

there already is, blow it up

[real dome]

there isnt

[rare pilot]

Not in Reforger

[waxen holly]

yeah luckily its a useless feature so it doesnt matter

[marble kindle]

Slam made a very good point saying you have to cut some down for the freeform building

[real dome]

its not especially when mortars come

im not building a mortar in the open when i can build it in the woods

[waxen holly]

no thats a bad point because you will be sitting there chopping down about 40 trees just for the STUMPS to still be there, did you even think about that? the stumps will remain? are you gonna go dig out all of the roots too?

do you even realize how long that would take without machinery

in the middle of a warzone no less

absolute total complete utter waste of time that would be

[lament gale]

I feel bad for people who can't accept that they're wrong. Removing trees should be possible not only for tactics but also for effect, realism, and extra detail could be caused by an explosion. All of which is not possible for larger trees in Reforger, a game that has a goal of getting the details right

[waxen holly]

luckily for me its not realism for soldiers to be chopping down trees with axes

[lament gale]

You're arguing against the removal of trees in general

[waxen holly]

i am in favor of blowing up or running over trees like how you can in arma 3

[real dome]

in arma 3 pairie fire you just cut down the tree and it would delete the tree

[waxen holly]

in arma 3 you can level a forest with bombs or run over small trees

[oak flare]

This is literally an IRA truck bomb. As simple and cheap as bomb's come it's not a capability exclusive to the US.

[rare pilot]

Daisy Cutters are Napalm bombs designed to clear huge swathes of trees and create LZs for Hueys and Chinooks
Hence the name

I was unaware the IRA had access to Napalm

Especially during the Vietnam era

[waxen holly]

there is absolutely no practical tactical use for manually and intentionally cutting down trees in arma

[rare pilot]

Clearing a sightline for someones gun

[stray frost]

Korean War almost started back up when soldiers went to chop down a tree with an axe: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_axe_murder_incident

[waxen holly]

just move in front of the tree

[rare pilot]

Theres no hardcover there

[real dome]

there is. you dont need to waste time, there are demolition bombs coming yeah but there arent airplane dropped bombs

[waxen holly]

put cover there

[stray frost]

Yeah guys. Just move out into the open to a worse position. Jeeze.

[lament gale]

You could block a road with a tree, which is useful

[rare pilot]

The tree is blocking the view from my window, where im protected
I want the tree gone so I can see

[waxen holly]

So youre gonna cut down a tree so that theres no cover ANYWAY?

[stray frost]

Still got my stump!

[lament gale]

Sounds like a lot of reasons to remove a tree if you wanted to

[rare pilot]

Indeed
I can think of like 6 off the top of my head

[waxen holly]

that no one would ever use

[real dome]

an axe is quiter than explosives

[rare pilot]

That id use nearly every match

[waxen holly]

liar

[rare pilot]

How are YOU gonna tell ME

[stray frost]

I would. Just admit you're wrong man. You said I was the only one who wants this and there's like 10 other people right here who do too. I'm not saying it should be high priority but I would love to see it added

[waxen holly]

i know you wouldnt use them every match because youve never used them before and youre not gonna start using them now

[oak flare]

I just found it amusing the explosive compisition is the same as IRA and every terrorist uses for home made truck bombs i.e. fertilizer mixed with aluminium. "America's biggest bomb" isn't any bigger than things the IRA would blow up in london back in the day, or any more complex.

[rare pilot]

Wrong

[waxen holly]

10 keyboard warriors who just follow the sheeple

[rare pilot]

Whenever we had that remove trees mod running, I used it constantly

[real dome]

when ur wrong why you insulting

[waxen holly]

Send the link

[lament gale]

I remember using grenades to destroy trees in the way in battlefield, or sitting ones that can be shot. It's very useful

[rare pilot]

It came in handy for getting vehicles unstuck
Came in handy for clearing sightlines
Came in handy for building stuff
Came in handy for removing concealment

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5EB744C5F42E0800-TreeRemovalAction

[rare pilot]

Here ya go

[waxen holly]

very few downloads, shows just how useless the mod is

[rare pilot]

8000 downloads

[waxen holly]

the most subscribed mod has 300,000+

[stray frost]

It has 7000 back when the PC player count was like 200 people. And thats 7000 more than anything you've ever made

[rare pilot]

You do realize thats like, all of Reforgers players right?

[waxen holly]

is that supposed to be a gotcha

[rare pilot]

Thats cause the most subscribed mods were buggy and had to constantly be deleted and redownloaded

People gotta reinstall RHS like 3 times a day

Thats gonna bloat some numbers a bit

[stray frost]

The first sentence is just a fact. The second an assumption

[waxen holly]

gimmick mod thats probably in some guy's server that forces everyone to download it before they play, yeah no one cuts down trees on purpose in arma unless theyre playing as zeus and use the clear brush function from one of those zeus enhancer mods

[fair dove]

O.o weird flex...

[rare pilot]

He doesnt even play reforger

[nova quest]

i hope we will have that kind of crate in reforger, for the mortar rounds for exemple, crates that you can deploy on the ground, open and retrieve item from it. Imagine opening a crate and seeing a lot of AKs etc, and when you take one it physically disappear from the crate. I love that kind of stuff, would make logistic way more badass

[rare pilot]

Hes a mindless hater who spent like 2 hours this morning doing nothing but shit talking it lol

[waxen holly]

im here to tell you that 99% of arma players have never wished the could cut down trees

[real dome]

and everyone except you here said they like it

[rare pilot]

Im here to tell you that being able to is an amazing feature

[waxen holly]

nah theyre just drinking the kool aid, they know they wouldnt actually utilize such a "feature"

[real dome]

dude you are the 1% who doesnt want it

[rare pilot]

^

[waxen holly]

no one wanted it until that guy brought it up and now suddenly "everyone does"

nonsense, you guys know you dont give a damn about cutting down trees you just wanna cause a ruckus

[fair dove]

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions 🤷‍♂️

[rare pilot]

I wanna cut down trees

[stray frost]

It's funny because by arguing against it he's making it more known that people actually want it. Before he came along it was just a thing in a list of mine that were never going to happen 😁

[waxen holly]

wow the phrase "cut down trees" has been said only 27 times in this server and half of them were from today

[waxen holly]

theres a mod in arma 3 that lets you cut down trees and it has like 300 current subscribers

basically no one wants to cut down trees

[stray frost]

Yeah because you are the first person to argue against it. Not to mention there is other terminology for it.

[cobalt agate]

Blud is still waffling

[waxen holly]

youre the first person to argue for it, these other randoms never wouldve suggested such a feature if you didnt say it first

[rare pilot]

Hes a cringe life player

[rare pilot]

Bonehed

[stray frost]

These "randoms" are some of the people I see posting here most. Never noticed you before.

[waxen holly]

Lmao

no one cuts down trees in arma

[cobalt agate]

Remember when feedback was about changing features instead of arguing about cutting down trees? Pepper Ridge Farm remembers.

[fair dove]

I don't think he will stop until we tell him he's right... 🤣

[stray frost]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1889104923
17000

[warm cypress]

he is right. he is absolutely right about everything he has said

[waxen holly]

this doesnt allow you to cut down trees

[stray frost]

Same concept

[real dome]

sog prairie fire had tree clearing feature and people who build bases use it

[waxen holly]

absolutely not

[rare pilot]

In Arma 3, you could shoot and drive over trees and blow them up

In Reforger, you cant do either of those
Having a mod where you can remove trees in Reforger makes the experience better

[real dome]

and also in arma 3 there wasnt a similar system to reforgre

[waxen holly]

yes

[waxen holly]

no just make it so you can run over and blow up trees again 💀?

[rare pilot]

I have used this system
I enjoy the benefits it brings

[stray frost]

Also featured in Epoch and Exile (allegedly)

[rare pilot]

Bohemia has to do that

[waxen holly]

Why? i thought modders could do everything according to the ppl i spoke to yesterday

[rare pilot]

Engine limitations

[waxen holly]

if they made a mod that cuts down trees with shovel wheres the mod that cuts down trees with car and bomb

[rare pilot]

And no access to the trees 3d models, to setup proper animations for it collapsing and splitting

[rare pilot]

Doesnt work like that
You have no understanding of how the mod tools work, or the game runs, do you

[warm cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/toll-hotdogs-do-not-feed-the-troll-gif-17541719

[waxen holly]

Explain why you can make a mod that cuts down trees with a shovel but not the bomb or the car

[rare pilot]

You tie an action at the base of the tree to a specific GM interaction with Editable Entities

[waxen holly]

attach action to bomb and car

[rare pilot]

Something that Explosions do not do

[cobalt agate]

I’m indifferent to cutting down trees… I’d prefer Reforger to be stable again rather than packet loss and stalling, it’s reminding me of the first few months of reforger again

[rare pilot]

Youre welcome to download the mod tools and give it a try

[waxen holly]

here is the average arma player, they dont give af about cutting down trees and never once wished they were able to cut down trees

[rare pilot]

I am an average arma player, and cutting down trees is a nice ability to have

[cobalt agate]

Don’t bring me into your silly little arguement

[waxen holly]

youre injected yourself into it by commenting on the trees

[cobalt agate]

nuh uh

[waxen holly]

yeah no its not, if you wanna be weird and cut down trees they have a mod for it, but it doesnt have even close to enough demand or usefulness for the devs to add it to the game

[pure gyro]

"Everyone Knows That When You Make An Assumption, You Make An Ass Out Of 'U' And 'Umption."

[stray frost]

Also an average arma player...also I suspect I've been playing it longer than you've been alive😁

[rare pilot]

Grampa Jakerod is an OG

[waxen holly]

then you cant call yourself an average arma player

[rare pilot]

He beta tested OFP

[cobalt agate]

My biggest request is that vehicles have individual health rather than shooting the back of a medi vic and exploding

[waxen holly]

so

[warm cypress]

[waxen holly]

doesnt mean hes right lmao

[stray frost]

I actually didn't sadly. I was a little too late for that

[rare pilot]

Health on vehicles is a singular healthbar, with weak points that when destroyed affect either a system of the vehicle (Gearbox, for example) or reduces the vehicles health with Fire damage
An example is the Ammo rack: Hitting an ammo rack on a vehicle like the BTR starts a health drain effect on the BTR instance, and slowly reduces its health until 0, which is when it blows up

[olive trail]

hitting the hull doesn't decrease health asaik which should be changed

last I checked, the health only start to go down when fire start

[rare pilot]

BTRs can survive if you poke holes in the armor

If you dont hit something crucial it wont die
You just poke holes where there is air inside the vehicle

[olive trail]

same with armor, I never seen it go down more than 10

[rare pilot]

I remember the story of a Stryker that got hit by like 14 RPGs in a single mission off base

[olive trail]

what you are describing is 10 off the health bar

[rare pilot]

And yet it was still driven right back to safety
Because the Taliban missed EVERYTHING crucial

They didnt get any wheels, they didnt get any of the engine parts, no hydraulic or brake lines, no fuel tanks, nothing
They simply poked holes into the empty crew compartment

[cobalt agate]

Cutting down trees can easily be a mod for Arma 4 I feel their main focus a campaign as good as OFP/2/3 and reimplimenting features from the older game, I hope they have the hard mode of OFP because the k-pot n vest should not stop 762

[rare pilot]

Thats why I hate seeing people shoot a BTR 4 times in the side and complain when it does nothing

It did nothing, because you literally missed anything thatll kill it
Its not a living creature
It doesnt have "Skin" and it doesnt "Bleed" like we do when shot

[waxen holly]

its fine if someone makes a mod for it but theres no reason for BI to add it as a feature

[olive trail]

100 hull damage is the btr split in half

[rare pilot]

Either shoot it in the heart, or the brain
Take out its joints
But shooting it in the stomach or the arm wont do a single thing to it

[cobalt agate]

What are some features in the game you think need to be improved at the moment? I think the 1.1 entity clear is awful but the vehicle clear in 1.0 was also far too fast.

[waxen holly]

advanced stances along with its indicator on the hud like we had in arma 3

actual usable arsenal

non-ugly PC UI

they also need to fix the heli controls when steering with mouse

[cobalt agate]

Yeah arsenal box ia pretty jank and the ui is hard to use on controller too. I don’t really see the need for stance indicator though, I never needed it in 3 or 2 as you sorta know that you’re not standing straight up.

[waxen holly]

well in arma 3 you could do CTRL+W/A/S/D to change your stance a bit

and the indicator in the top right would tell you which way your stance is

currently in reforger youre able to do ctrl+scroll to change your vertical stance but theres nothing to indicate your current height compared to the default height

and theres no horizontal stances right now either

[cobalt agate]

horizontal stances, like leaning?

[olive trail]

minimal ui is a design decision, which I highly appreciate in reforger.

[rare pilot]

Kind of
Reforger has like 7 vertical stances and 2 horizontal stances (Q and E)
Arma 3 had like 10 Vertical stances, and nearly 8 horizontal stances

Including swapping your gun to your left shoulder and shifting your weight to your left foot
Came in handy when peeking left corners without exposing most of your body

[stray frost]

Hear that BI? We don't need tanks, planes, night vision, AI control, better UI, etc.

[waxen holly]

do u even hear urself

jakerod thinks we don't need tanks, planes, night vision, AI control, better UI, etc.

[stray frost]

Sorry. Misunderstanding of what you typed. Seemed right in line with how you think so I didn't reread. My bad

[cobalt agate]

I’m surprised we have half the stuff we have when we are normal army in the 80s.

Like I wasn’t in the US Army in 1989 but m4’s and red dots feel a bit… S.O.G?

[violet vale]

Reforger has like 7 vertical stances and 2 horizontal stances (Q and E)

not to be picky,
Reforger potentially has infinite vertical stance (within current limits) as its a simple blend based on float value.

the only limiting factor is how much the value changes in one notch of the mouse wheel.

[distant ore]

2 horizontal stances
You should be able to only lean a bit, you don't need to be fully leaning or not, you can be in the middle. So kinda of infinite as Momo said above for the vertical stance 😄

The only missing part is being able to switch gun to your left shoulder as Arma 3 has

And the sitting stance 😄

[rare pilot]

Also the prone one where you lay on your side and can shoot under furniture and small vehicles and stuff

[violet vale]

yes that is missing. as is any kind fo adjustment in prone, currently

[rare pilot]

What're some of the issues you're faced with when making animations of that sort?

[cobalt agate]

Dude, they need to get the gun sounds to be even half as good as Ashyl’s Better sounds.

[ornate shard]

In addition to be able to cut down trees and thick bushes, wirecutters are a must. I feel like the discussion about them died many times but I need my wirecutters

[rare pilot]

Ashyls mod sucks, WAY too heavy on the bass

[real dome]

all the gun mods in the game currently are bad

[rare pilot]

Frag grenades sound like nuclear bombs and gunshots sound like the world is falling apart at the seams

[real dome]

the sound mods

[ornate shard]

Actually the sounds in vanilla are the best I have ever heard in a video game and no mod even compares.
At least the samples.
It is just that the mixing is not aggressive enough to actually showcase how good they are.

[rare pilot]

The vanilla sounds are much more realistic

[real dome]

andrej makes the best gun sounds!

[violet vale]

they can be multiple, from an animation PoV. prone in general is more challenging, because more limiting before a pose becomes very broken, making it work with all weapons with existing handling pose limitations etc...

[cobalt agate]

I only noticed recently that there are reverb after the round is shot, it’s too quiet

[cobalt agate]

have you been stupid enough to shoot a rifle without hearing protection, guns and explosions are incredibly loud.

[ornate shard]

Yeah all the elements are there. They are just not noticable enough.

[cobalt agate]

Yeah, this I just worded it poorly

[ornate shard]

I did some few simple filter changes to the finalmix with some kinda extreme compression and boom. Similar to battlefield bc2 but even better.

[cobalt agate]

unless they add earplugs but then they’d have to muffle radio and player voices and well… everything that’d explain the current volume of the gunshots.

I mean all of the head models having earplugs not like some kind of customisation lol

[ornate shard]

Well I guess the mix is like what it is now to make communication easier.
And yeah earplugs wont help you at all when everything is exploding around you.
My mod makes everything really chaotic and intense.
It is ultra realistic but not many casual players like it.

[cobalt agate]

SDR or whatever its called?

[ornate shard]

I havent published it but yeah it decreases the dynamic range.

[cobalt agate]

I dont understand the need to appeal to non milsim gamers when Arma has always been a milsim, guns are loud you can’t hear people over it the crack of a round hitting the dirt near you will never leave you or the super sonic crack.

[real dome]

im not playing to rape my ears

i wanna hear the animals and the environment

[ornate shard]

Well I am. So...

[ornate shard]

Said every soldier in combat

[cobalt agate]

I’m not saying the sounds need to “rape my ears” I’m saying the organ in the church is louder than the gun sounds.

Proper guns sounds can be theraputic for folk who served.

[real dome]

u mean ptsd starting

[cobalt agate]

That is a possibility too

[ornate shard]

There are always risks when trying to widen the audience like they are doing with Reforger. I have seen too many people come here and complain about supersonic cracks and asking them to be removed for example.

While I and hopefully other Arma veterans want the game to be even more hardcore than what it is.

[cobalt agate]

balancing act 😔

[ornate shard]

And nobody is happy?

[olive trail]

I don't know about the current weapon audio, but the sound mod are absolute garbage

[ornate shard]

Okay truth to be told, I do like pretty much everything they are doing with Reforger so I dont want to complain.
I am just worried about the new people bringing their strong opinions here.

[marble kindle]

Any chance of that coming at some point ? In DayZ you can like go prone and do a 180° onto your back and aim anywhere inbetween. I think I saw the animations in Reforger files already

[cobalt agate]

that’s what I was implying

[ornate shard]

Yeah this was one of the coolest things in Dayz that I found by accident

[violet vale]

I can't tell if or when, but in DayZ, that implies a whole new stance: prone on back.
and that is no small amount of work

[marble kindle]

Yeah I assumed so. New state in state machine, bunch of transitions etc. Would be great to see some day though.

[waxen holly]

you can

you just cant sidestep

[violet vale]

I agree it would.
now theres also the input quesiton. in DayZ you ahve to hold right click to raise your gun, and roll around in prone.

I dont know how that different would be made in Arma between current turn around in prone or roll over

[marble kindle]

True.

[violet vale]

not that we are going to solve it here and now, just saying that theres a few strings attached to such a feature 🙂

[marble kindle]

Absolutely, I just like how DayZ handled it. Seeing how many hotkeyed things were simplified/unified in Reforger already, such versatile animation would only make sense.

[violet vale]

yep. though i'll surely regret it when itll come to aiming with PKM up while on the back and not clipping that buttstock through the shoulder, nor over extanding the left arm 😄

[marble kindle]

🥴

[waxen holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845662866584371210/1224074263502262352/ah_yes_the_water_is_on_fire.mp4?ex=661c2afe&is=6609b5fe&hm=b75c9bbe3a64bd1209bf34fd1ce7eaa08fb0374d55cfb7bf20a055f370896521&

[timber sparrow]

Cannot reproduce, got stuck in toaster

Is it modded?

[warm cypress]

yes he is using the betterhitseffects mod and decided to put it in here

[timber sparrow]

[ornate shard]

Seems like this guy is just a troll

[real dome]

yeah lol

[ornate shard]

Btw I found a pretty interesting wishlist from long ago, but I think quite a lot of the things apply to Reforger https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_2:_Wish_List

And you can see some familiar names there 😉

[real dome]

zguuba

[sharp urchin]

Arma 4 Disclaimer: Please do NOT rape either the Animals nor the Environment

[ornate shard]

Arma 4: Laws of Nature

[real dome]

arma 4: invasion of the btrs made of stalinium

[waxen holly]

Shoot all the animals even the dogs and rabbits

[foggy wyvern]

the texture budget needs to be higher (or adjustable on PC), I look at my own gun and it's rendering MIP3

[foggy wyvern]

btw I can still walk through walls, just in a different way

[cobalt agate]

Conflict suggestions:

When a player joins they are placed into the team with less players (auto balance teams)

Increasing cost of redeployment on each death in edition to current redeploy cost (example 50 ~> 550 -> 1550)

those are the two I think would greatly improve the game mode.

[viral pecan]

April fools jokes aside I have Conflict suggestion: RPG munition should cost same or maybe a little less than launcher itself. 10 supply points is way too cheap especially if you consider US LAW costs 50 per shot. Soviet player has extra 5 shots for a price of one US LAW.

[primal stump]

When swimming in the water, it breaks animations for players . If you get out the water and go prone or kneeling other players and I believe a.i we only see you standing.

[blazing spade]

• Forcing someone in a team is a good way to ensure they will disconnect
• Increasing redeploy supply cost just punish the team

[real dome]

conflict should have an second objective to the main objective, meaning that you can win by 2 different ways than 1 and also dynamic major bases, more locations for them, because conflict just feels like the same every game.

[cobalt agate]

Punishing the team is good, find out who is being an idiot and give em’ a stern talking to and if you leave because you are not on your favourite team then you are immature

[viral pecan]

Forcing players to play in a team where they don’t want to play would be immature. Plus this autobalance feature would make impossible to play this game in same team with your friends because they would be split up between US and Soviet team

[pure gyro]

The ONLY downfall to this, is those of us who play with friends

[viral pecan]

This feature would triple already painful trolling in the game

[pure gyro]

This could be corrected with a party system though tbh

[cobalt agate]

I must of forgot to post it but I suggested a team queue if you want to play with your buddies, there is no good option only slightly better options than a 80/20 split that it usually is

[viral pecan]

Those suggestions would massively increase trolling and destroying others game

[cobalt agate]

True, there’s no winning if every player played like the trailers the game would be incredible lol

[viral pecan]

One troll can empty crucial capture points from supplies one by one within seconds by just respawning multiple times and after that whole team will be f-d.

[pure gyro]

They can do that already though, so it doesnt really change anything

[real dome]

everytime you respawn you should wait 60seconds or more

[viral pecan]

It is a big difference if you lose 100 or 1500 points

[pure gyro]

Personally with supply I think it should just not regen outside MOB, so I could care less about that half of lekkers suggestion lol

[viral pecan]

Well the other proposal is also bad. Why would I want to play at all if I’m forced to play in a team where I don’t want to.

[pure gyro]

I'm curious as what your thoughts on how this could be remedied

and don't give me that 'dont play on USSR if you don't want to lose' shit

[viral pecan]

It could be resloved by waiting list, if you don’t want to play Soviets you can wait in lobby until team balance will get better or play soviets and join game instantly.

Where I play, this situation on your picture is rare

[pure gyro]

Yea thats what I was saying for the past months, there is a mod for it but A. It lets 4-15 people flood onto the otherside when team is opened and B. Official is mostly what I play and it kills a server when there is no action vs the other side, both sides get a little bored with it and the game isn't fun bc is isn't a struggle.

[pure gyro]

Well like I say, I play mostly official, and if official is supposed to represent the devs vision of the base game without administration then this needs to be built into the engine with options to communities configure the balance threshold (23vs25 or 20vs28 would even be better than not)

[idle wren]

unless we'd be able to make a party/squad like in battlefield before joining a game, sounds like a nice idea actually. BI could force team balancing and people could still play together by creating a party before

[thin wigeon]

Refueling doesn't work sometimes at Small Fuel Supply Points. I'm doing everything right and I can't fill up fuel tanks neither vehicles (I get the option, but holding F doesn't do anything), player next to me can do it. Then sometime later I leave the area, come back and it works again.

Is this a known bug?

[pure gyro]

Sometimes if I wait around the fuel area it fixes itself, AFAIK haven't seen anyone else mention it but I have had issues with filling jerry cans since they've been in, only recently found that if it wont start filling if I just wait a minute or two and try again it works

(none of my friends have had the same issue)

Like the bar fills up, then starts filling up again but the number doesnt go up and the sound isnt played, waiting makes glug glug work again

[thin wigeon]

Yeah, same for me

[viral pecan]

I still think it shouldn’t be forced. Alternative would be selectable function for server admin who can turn forced balance on or off.

[idle wren]

Well there is a mod for auto-balancing, but I personally feel like Official Servers should provide a fair playground for everyone and thus should have auto-balancing enabled by default.

[viral pecan]

For me personally forcing to the team where I don’t want to play would end with changing server or disconnecting and doing something else but there is large amount of players/kids/trolls who would do anything to destroy this team game where they were forced to join, because they didn’t want to play there and it is their way to get it back to the system. Sabotaging is already really big problem in this game and it would get even bigger. All I’m saying is that it is double edged sword.

[idle wren]

Yeah I feel you regarding the trolls and team killers, we need a report feature or something ingame, the vote kicking only keeps them at bay for a few minutes before they rejoin

[pure gyro]

You mean like not allowing trial/family accounts to play online?

That would solve a vast majority of cases imo

[idle wren]

Well I just recently started actively playing reforger so I don't know a lot about people abusinjg xbox trials and steam family sharing but a simple report button with a few options like hacking/griefing/trolling etc. would be fine.

[pure gyro]

Yeah the thing is when people want to focus on trolling they'll have 10+ free trial account(xbox) or family share to alts(steam) and just sign out and into a new troll account, mess some shit up, get voted out, restart the cycle

[idle wren]

In the end it's all up to BI on how to handle it we can only provide ideas and wish for stuff, I don't know how family sharing and free trials work on a technical side and if you can connect an IP or UID that keeps account hopping and just perm ban them or something.

basically everything needs to be linked to a primary key or combined foreign keys no sure how the db works for GUID in Reforger though

[pure gyro]

AFAIK you can do hardware bans on XB but I have my doubts on BI doing that, also some server owners are reporting that many players use the same IP so alledgedly IP bans would be a bad idea

[idle wren]

yeah since we're running dry on IPv4

[foggy wyvern]

there's people in the community that threaten and perform ddos attacks against community servers and they are still able to play the game, fat chance official servers will reduce griefing

[oak flare]

Even if BI were to ban someone, they could just create a new Steam account and continue playing through library sharing, right?

[foggy wyvern]

to be fair I dont really know what happens if you are banned from playing a game on steam, I guess family sharing still works

but they could revoke access to the game, so then it disappears from your library

[oak flare]

I don't think it's a thing. I just mean BI could ban someone from backend

[foggy wyvern]

its kind of like a refund but without the money

[real dome]

When you sit on dead ai, you cant aim

when you stand on dead ai i mean

[marble kindle]

I noticed that in some animations there is poor blending and an instant snap to the next pose. Could it quite possibly be that the character should be forced into crouch stance before the animation plays ?

[cobalt agate]

WOAH I have never noticed that before but I suppose I must always be crouching???

[frigid hamlet]

There needs to be more strict moderation of what is on the workshop, there's SO many broken mods on there it's insane :/

[fair dove]

Is there anything that can be done about XBox videos not containing the player voices of others? Maybe add something in the EULA that says your voice can be recorded if you play this game online?

Makes it very tough as a server admin to investigate incidents and make decisions when you cant hear what is being said by the players.

[ionic vapor]

Other than a capture card no. Also I think it’s a Xbox issue that you can’t record highly doubt the BI can change their minds.

[solemn fossil]

Supposedly there is a workaround where you set your controller to be "owned" by a guest account or something. There was a video on it posted here a while back but i never tested it myself

[fair dove]

that kinda sounds sketch! but yeah, IDK what the legalities are about that or if its just an xbox standard policy, but it sure is frustrating! I suppose I could make it PC only but that would take away 85% of my player base lol

[solemn fossil]

Yeah its definitely a pain, especially with reporting issues to server admins like you said. Even with hacky workarounds no one is going to want to mess with all that on the off chance they run into a troll they can report

[violet vale]

yep we know about this kind of things. thanks for reporting 🙂

[real dome]

You can decommision vehicles outside of bases.

[simple kindle]

Recently, me and another person I play with have noticed that "ghost wounds" appear more often now, i.e. you see it on your character, you are bleeding from it but you can't heal it, I had a similar situation with myself (another person helped me back then to heal it) and when my friend had the same problem, I tried to stop the bleeding, but I didn't see the bandage icon on his body (the same as in my case ), only when another friend without any "ghost wounds" approached us, he was able to "fix" us, so it seems that if I come across this bug myself, I won't be able to help others with the same bug, strange.

[foggy wyvern]

thats because the damage is on the inside

[foggy wyvern]

what about this

reminds me of lethal company

[brisk brook]

@real dome oh no 😦

[real dome]

noooo

[foggy wyvern]

when they got all the entrances covered I'll just phase through a wall

[oak flare]

Every day people buy this game, join PBS where the server runs <20fps, then uninstall because "the hitreg and driving is broken". Server mismanagment has a huge detrimental effect on this game's player-base.
If a server is always serving up a broken experience, they should be banned from backend. BI will ban mods for breaking the game, why not servers too?

[foggy wyvern]

it already displays low server fps warnings but maybe they should get bigger, I don't think just deleting those servers off backend is a solution

[oak flare]

Warnings are only in-game; they should be in server browser too.

[fair dove]

that might be nice, server fps next to ping. but then again, most players dont know the difference between client and server fps...

[stray frost]

Anyone else ever have their weapon stop responding to reloads or resting? It seems like randomly if I try to reload via R it won't work. And same goes for trying to rest using C and sometimes bringing up optics. Holding R to inspect the weapon and reloading that way works but not pressing R

[simple kindle]

its not only pbs server, iam playing on official and bad fps and desync happens quite often when too many players do stuff in one place, but yeah maybe on pbs is worse because of players count limit is over 100

[north portal]

If in multiplayer that could be animation/network desync. Repro would be useful for us, as a workaround I usually try falling , drop and pickup or weapon switch

[ornate shard]

I have had this happen quite often.
Unfortunately I dont have a confirmed repro but seems to happen often if you get knocked out while using binocs for example.

But yeah dropping the weapon/binocs usually helps

[nova quest]

ah yes

i think an empty box/crate that you can build with construction truck could be nice. You build it, then you can fill it with ammo/medical supplies for later use

[stray frost]

If it's relevant this has been happening when I host on my local machine. Beyond that I'm not sure what causes it. It may even happen when I'm not hosting on my local machine but I'm not sure since that's the only way I play now.

Switching weapons sometimes helps but other times doesn't.

[brisk brook]

I see the issue... your game is in french!

[nova quest]

Best language of the best country, that cant be an issue

[olive trail]

april fool was two days ago

[nova quest]

facts

[violet vale]

ton tonton tonds ton thon

[real dome]

tan tan taan

[brazen quail]

@novel dock 080-065

[brisk brook]

I didnt know dwarden was a rock

[naive widget]

Allow arsenal items to receive items in Conflict mode. Makes sorting loadouts easier.

[real dome]

?

[naive widget]

For example if accidentally tak a helmet, i cannot just move it over back into the box, i have to back out. Drop it on the ground, then re-enter the armory menu. This also might be a UI error it not updating properly.

[real dome]

Ah

[grizzled torrent]

Arma 3 personalization would be nice, like having a profile with very generic stuff like glasses and maybe race for a bit of personalization in the game - at the bareminimum glasses tbh

also one more thing I just remembered was the autodetect graphic settings that was seen in arma 3, it would help a LOT for those who are trying to get a good base preset

[vast condor]

I feel like generally the incapacitated system doesn't activate enough. Most of the time you instantly die - it is somewhat uncommon to get downed first. Also, there's no incentive to stay on the ground so even if a player comes to try and help you, you can give up anyway, which feels like bad design. Incapacitated players need slightly more resistance to bullets because I'm pretty sure that follow up rounds from a burst is what is killing and finishing off incapcitated players before they hit the floor.

[oak flare]

Sounds like you're playing a different game? Pretty much any shot in the torso will incapacitate you, and most explosions too. In any firefight looks around and there are guys incapacitated. There is big incentive not to give up; you can survive and not have to start from spawn again. Last point is nonsense; it would be no fun at all if no player or AI you shot died because the first shot incapacites them and they get some magic bullet resistance.

[viral pecan]

I think building armory should be locked to at least corpral level. Currently in conflict mode, if somebody builds armory at the beginning of a round (besides antenna which is must have) then 2/3 of team will be stuck in main base because they don’t have any transport and no supplies to build vehicle depo. Even if you manage to build vehicle depo and armory then supplies will be depleted almost instantly by the players at armory who build their mega hyper setups and don’t understand how supply system works.

[foggy wyvern]

if anything there is too much incapacitation and not enough death, since those pasgt vests tank 12.7 rounds from 5 meters

[cobalt agate]

Uh that must be a bug on pc because I have been dropping items from my inventory into the arsenal box for a while not dropping it on the floor then doing it

[simple kindle]

armory increases the limit of supplies in the base, so it is not always built just to make a loadout also that's what they're there for two humvees and one truck which i think is more than enough to transport people at first, but most of the time someone just going solo with those vehicles

[cobalt agate]

Stop giving players choice tbh if you don’t build the radio antenna you should be brought to the lake like Lenny in of mice and men

[brittle spire]

I feel like we should be able to carry additional LAWs in our backpacks

[real dome]

it too big

[brisk brook]

A dedicated carrier exists:
https://sadefensejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/paaw2.jpg

[brittle spire]

It seems odd to me that only one side gets a reloadable launcher

Especially since I don't think (yet) the Americans have something as bulletproof as the BTR

[real dome]

btr can only withstand max 5.45 or 5.56 but 7.62x51 or 54r it cant

[rare pilot]

It's British, not American

Americans just rocked dedicated AT weapons instead of wasting space carrying a bunch of disposables

[errant leaf]

yes, i posted this exact image a few months ago, US needs this

[brisk brook]

Ik, also probs not era appropriate

[rare pilot]

It's era appropriate

[errant leaf]

the ALICE pack frame was very versatile

[real dome]

us used dragons

[rare pilot]

Just not faction or theatre appropriate

[errant leaf]

everyone knows they are just a myth

[real dome]

lol

[brittle spire]

ARMA is no stranger to having "out of place" weapons for balancing

Original ARMA Bizon (or oddly depicting the LAW as reloadable)

[real dome]

bug? no, its a feature!

[brittle spire]

But yeah I feel like the US of the two factions probably benefits the most from a reloadable launcher of some kind for BTR Fighting

[errant leaf]

lol, i remember the law reload, i am no AT weapons expert, but that reload sound just did not sound right, sounded like marble rolled down pvc pipe

[real dome]

us had like riflemans with laws and russians had like only a few guys with rpgs so you know more laws levels the playing ground

[brittle spire]

And they gave the Soviets a Czech Law-Equivalent they also somehow reloaded

But yeah ARMA is realistic but it's always had "wrong" stuff (ARMA 2 British Armed Forces running around with a 1911 instead of a Hi-Power)

[viral pecan]

just make extra rpg ammo cost as much as launcher itself and there will be a lot less rambos with 7 rpgs running around

[rare pilot]

Instead of carrying an M60 and M21 just carry an M16 and a LAW

If every single person on the US team did that you wouldn't be complaining as much about the single armored vehicle in the game

[real dome]

i scavenge for the loot, getting rpgs of fia is easy

[brittle spire]

Nah I saw an M60 and M16 with M203 lol

[viral pecan]

currently the situation is absolutely stupid, every second soviet is running around map spamming rpg fire left and right in his rambo backpack

[rare pilot]

The issue is people who play US are generally bad at the game and don't think agead

[brittle spire]

I haven't encountered enemy BTRs yet, it just seems weird that only the Soviets get a reloadable launcher considering the US at most have Humvees

Which can be destroyed with grenades and machine guns

[real dome]

because soviets used rpg 7 a lot. and also lav 25 is coming

[rare pilot]

If servers were locked in first person it wouldn't be too much of an issue because BTRs are blind as a bat

[real dome]

so can btrs and lav25s.

[brittle spire]

A BTR can survive many M203 nades

[rare pilot]

Frag grenades can't penetrate the armor on a BTR-70

Neither can .30 caliber Machinegun fire
That's one of the design requirements

[real dome]

like 3 nades with good server luck will kill the crew.

[brittle spire]

I can confirm when a hacker was trying to destroy a BTR I was in, we took over 10 'nades with only light injuries and he had to take a LAW from the base (I call him a hacker because I'm pretty sure he survived several BTR Turret direct hits)

[rare pilot]

To be an Armored Personnel Carrier

[real dome]

frags cant but gls do in the game.

[brittle spire]

But yeah it seems weird that the one faction at the moment with an armored vehicle, gets the reloadable launcher while the one faction without is stuck with a disposable.

[rare pilot]

HEDP shells have a penetrator and like 30mm of penetration, more than enough

[real dome]

but it isnt an issue.

[rare pilot]

US is the only faction that has HEDP for dealing with light armor

[brittle spire]

HEDP Shells my beloved (Dragon Rising had them)

[brittle spire]

Yeah BTRs are rare but it still seems like an odd design choice that's slightly unbalanced (It's just BTRs are a rare sight in my experience)

[rare pilot]

Damage on the BTR is temporarily busted though
12.7mm fire doesn't harm it from the sides or front

It's understandable if the front is angled but sustained 50 to the sides should ammo rack it

[real dome]

yeah this update fucked the btr but its known atleast for rpgs

[violet vale]

you can take down BTR with LAW, M203 HEDP, and M2 HMG and M60

[brittle spire]

I know the US can get an armored Humvee (not seen it yet) so maybe that is basically impervious to small arms fire but even then the gunner is exposed

[real dome]

556 can pen it

[brittle spire]

While the BTR Gunner is basically fully protected inside the vehicle

(Outside of the M2 Browning but that's only on other vehicles/ a turret)

[real dome]

yeah but lav 25 is coming

[brisk brook]

If it wasnt broken. Takes just about 10 rpgs and 10 mines rn.

[brittle spire]

I'd like to see an M18 Recoilless rifle or Super Bazooka for the US

[real dome]

i was told its known

[violet vale]

well thats another story, independent from the intentions in ballancing 😦

[real dome]

prolly in arma 4

[brittle spire]

Also maybe slipping in the original ARMA czech launcher as a FIA launcher would be neat. (Maybe also available "captured" for the soviets as their own cheap disposable lancher)

[real dome]

i think checks used both rpg 75 and rpg 7

[brittle spire]

Actually I just remembered the Soviets did have their own disposable launchers so they could be added

M18 Recoilless Rifle/RPG-7 could be more expensive while the disposables could be cheaper

The RPG-18 was a disposable tube launcher like the LAW made in the 70's

[real dome]

yeah but rpg 7 is iconic for russians and law is iconic for americans, its nice to have all these things you mention but id rather have it for arma 4 then have it make reforger developement longer

[brittle spire]

Was even in ARMA 2

[brisk brook]

Well at least ppl are right when they call it a tank 😄

[simple kindle]

not only that, they have better weapons also, compared to usa

[brittle spire]

It is the closest thing in the game at the moment, heavy armor vehicle requiring heavy weapons to take out and having 2 guns. (It's just they're both MGs instead of an MG and a Cannon)

[brisk brook]

Well by all definitions is not a tank... except this bug that takes 30 blow ups to blow up

[simple kindle]

Iam expecting in future updates that we have mines that wont be detonated through shooting, that you need get out from vehicle and disarm it. In real live i doubt we can simple detonate the whole minefield just by shooting at it with guns.

[errant leaf]

devs have been working on improvments to mines from what i have heard, so hang in there, we are in for a treat

[violet vale]

ill be picky, but still missing the tracks to be given that designation :p

[brisk brook]

But it can take more damage than any mbt, so light but very heavily armored APC

[real dome]

bt 7 could drive with no tracks

[violet vale]

therefore BT7 isnt a tank 😄

[real dome]

it is

[brisk brook]

Would this classify as driving a tank?

https://machinegunsvegas.com/big-dig-and-destroy/

[ornate shard]

They would just need to increase the minimum damage property of the mines. Small arms do not detonate anti tank mines like they do in Reforger now

[foggy wyvern]

0 - 100 km/h: yes

[frosty gulch]

but RPGs and LAWs dont register 50% of my shots, sometimes cant even destroy a heli with multiple RPG hits. 50.cal is the most reliable. BI please fix

[distant ore]

With the next major update, rockets should be more reliable.

[frosty gulch]

Great!

[naive widget]

More user interface information on rounds left on magazine while inventory open please.

[errant leaf]

i would love more RPG ammo types, and since the subject of balance with AT weapons keeps coming up, the Carl Gustaf would also be nice

[nova quest]

Maybe it has been suggested earlier idk. But i think that having an action "arm and dig" on a mine placed on dirt or sand. It make the animation a little longer. But make the mine underground just leaving a little dirt mount so its not 100% hidden

[real dome]

i think the only war heads for the rpg 7 during that time were the tandem and pg7v and vm

[cobalt agate]

You can see a bar that shows how full or empty it is do you want an exact round count?

[errant leaf]

yeah, or at least that is what the PGO is capable of sighting, so they would be nice additions

[errant leaf]

it has been requested a million times, i think the devs will have a solution possibly

[main tide]

even the angled front shouldn't be stopping 50 cal depending on ammo used. standard "ball ammo" perhaps but certainly not the AP ammo. which is what 50 cal humvees are loaded with default. 9mm thickness angled at 45 degrees gives you a relative thickness of 12.72mm ( can rounded to 13mm to be generous). according to this source AP 50 cal should be capable of going through 19mm at 500 meters. if one wants to do the math thatl be even more at closer ranges when the .50 projectile has more velocity. https://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/50_ammo.html

[olive trail]

none ap 50cal is garbage when it comes to killing vehicles

[main tide]

Then that needs to change. Although you shouldn't need to be using ap belts unless your shooting at the angled lower front plate of a btr.

[main tide]

Tandem warheads would be overkill. There are no tanks planned for reforger, so it's just not nessesary to have more potent anti tank ammo for the rpg

[main tide]

Tbh even then it would depend which tank we are talking about as even reforgers current limited at would be adequate against very dated tank threats like the t55
Law has 300mm of penetration irl and the pg7vm can also do 300mm ( source varies) which would be enough to go through both upper front plate and front turret of a t55. ( theres a reaspn why ussr bothered to invest in modernising such old tanks based on afghan experience with addon armor) The cheif limitation would be small warhead doing less damage post penetration relative to a larger caliber anti rank weapon.

[nova quest]

Just an HE rocket would be enough. No need extra AT rockets

[main tide]

Og7 didn't exist during the cold war. Not introduced until 1999

https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/grenades/40mm-og-7-projected-grenade

[nova quest]

How sad 🥲 i love that rocket

Didnt knew it was THAT old damn

[broken scaffold]

This is making me think of the very funny concept of them adding tanks and such and everyone expecting Bradley, Abrams, BMP-2, and latest T-72s and T-80s but instead it's just M113s, M60s, BMP-1s, and T-62s and maybe the evil upgraded T-55

[naive widget]

It would be nice if NPC's could utilize all this furniture around, especially if they had wounded.

[foggy wyvern]

you can hide in those

[main tide]

If a4 is gonna still take place in 1989 if expect m60s and t55/62 to basically be "reserve" or 3rd rate tier tanks that can be bought for lesser supply points and a lower rank versus more modern 1st line of deployment tanks like the m1a1 or t80u for soviet side

[broken scaffold]

Yeah I'd imagine

[main tide]

Tbh in a4 I'd hope at a minimum soviets get a t55m or t62m as opposed to baseline versions. Because aside from including a fire control system the addon armor will at least make tanks mostly frontally immune to aforementioned stuff like law or rpg7 pg7vm warhead, ( at best maybe some very dated tank shells from 105mm guns, but atill irrelevant for apfsds ammo that m60a1 and m60a3s were issued in the 80s ).

[ancient quest]

i wrote the following as a feature request for the ACE mod, but it would cool to have this stuff in the base game.

• Slow down the time it takes to vault over certain objects/heights. Maybe restrict the height you can climb over, and make it that you need a fellow soldier nearby to help you vault over high walls. Maybe allow solo climbing walls if the soldier is light enough (wearing no armour). These things will make walls/fences more of an obstacle for infantry.
• Slow down the soldier’s movement speed in which he can move while strafing (there is a mod that does this, but unfortunately it doesn’t slow down the animation as well), aiming down sights and having a raised weapon. Maybe the heavier the weapon the slower you are when it's raised? If not, then maybe make the weapon sway a lot more when moving with heavier weapons.
• Restrict the speed in which the soldier can turn the weapon around while aiming heavier weapons (will restrict people bringing machineguns for CQB), but keep the head movement the same normal speed, so that the weapon is slower than the camera. Also weapon inertia would be cool.
• Gradual speed increase/decrease when starting/stopping sprint to simulate soldier's inertia. Smooth out or limit turning/changing directions while sprinting.
• Decrease speed in which soldier can aim down sights (the speed when the soldier goes from not-ADS to ADS) so that the player doesn't get pin-point accuracy straight away just by right-clicking (or maybe add a bit of aiming error for the first half second of being ADS)

[cobalt agate]

a lot of these are good for when fighting other players but will absolutely get you obliterated by ai that will no deal with any of these things

[errant leaf]

honestly this should all be vanilla, but an ACE mod addition would be nice

[broken scaffold]

T-55AMV would be very funny to see and period accurate

[wintry barn]

Reforger needs to have accounts sharing disabled on steam and somethow have the same done on console

we just had a whole 5 hour match ruined because someone started kicking people, digging things down and then leaving right before the vote kick happened

At the end the whole american team got kicked by possibly botted accounts

since in a matter of 15 seconds the whole team just got kicked and the notification bar got flooded with kicks

Like i said a good fix would be

• disabling sharing on steam and (console if possible)
  as of now one person can create an infinite amount of accounts both on PC and Xbox which allows them to keep reconnecting and keep ruining the game for others
• showing who started the vote kick
• Penalty for leaving mid vote kick (5 minute ban if not more)
• not allowing one person to start 5 vote kicks at once
• And if there isnt already adding a vote kick tracker.
  (Though i imagine this could take up a lot of server power and space and is a very tedious feature it would be nice seeing who gets kicked the most, who gets the most vote kicks on them, and who starts the most vote kicks. Like i said very tedious and i'm reconsidering whether or not keep this one on the list but this issue is a major one an i want anything that bohemia can do to be done in order to stop it)

For a public game this issue needs to be addressed quickly as allowing one person to sabotage a whole match all alone is unacceptable

[candid pasture]

So that's what happend when I left to do something how annoying

[plush belfry]

Be cool to get more American style maps for people to make servers based on a American Civil War 2.0 US military vs the Resistance modern warfare . Just a thought lol

[nova quest]

he disabled control hint but still have them. But i think controls hint are just the popup message that you close with H

[real dome]

Thats not a hint but a interaction point. Hints are the things that pop up on the side of the screen giving you hints

[viral pecan]

Shovel bug is really annoying. Sometimes when building it just randomly starts to put shovel away in the middle of building progress and only solution is to restart the game

[ornate shard]

This 💯
The game is a bit too much of a reaction shooter as of now. A lot of it also comes down to how simple the medical system is (recovery speed and damaged limb penalty) and the fast respawn in Conflict.
These things could really slow down the pace and make it more tactical but as @cobalt agate said the AI should also then be affected. I dont know if they currently are affected by stamina or damaged limbs but they definitely should. And there should be some kind of flinching or penalty when you get shot so that it is not that easy to keep shooting both for the players and the AI.

[paper plank]

no. i use this feature to be able to play since i use my brother's copy.
find another way to fix the issue

also they would need multiple copies of the game to use everything at once

i can only play when my brother isn't playing reforger on his account

[waxen holly]

then make it so i can disable "interaction point" key press hints

[timber sparrow]

Separate binding for blips is planned, but not high priority

[broken scaffold]

I usually am very pro how fast Johnny reforger can move but yeah I agree on strafe and vaulting. Seems weird I can spider man over a fence in like 10 seconds with 50 kilos of shit

[harsh laurel]

Maybe its Pervitin

[cobalt agate]

is that like Rasputin?

[frosty gulch]

do you mean big orange F key? If so then you can use my MMHs Simple UI mod, far from perfect but at least there is no more huge F key xD . I hate this F key hint everywhere wish we could disable it

[waxen holly]

i agree i hate the f key hint

that looks like a good mod

bohemia should hire the dev who made it

[ornate shard]

I on the other hand like it 🙂 as long as it doesnt get in the way of things

[waxen holly]

u like the f key hint all over ur screen?

[cobalt agate]

I forger sometimes so I like it

[waxen holly]

u forget what button to press to get in a car

[cobalt agate]

yuh

[ornate shard]

I like to press f

[waxen holly]

youre lying

[waxen holly]

you already do press f. the mod just gets rid of the stupid hint on the screen that tells you to press f

[cobalt agate]

nuh uh try to remember things when you have a tbi irl, people are screaming over comms and there are gunshots and explosions going off around you

[ornate shard]

I also like hints 🙂

[waxen holly]

brother i have almost 2000 hours in arma 3, i think i can remember to press the space bar which is required to commence literally any action

[cobalt agate]

ok?

[waxen holly]

it just sounds like you have about a 5 second memory span, how can you not remember to press letter F? do you literally be looking at the hint on your screen every single time and wondering "damn i forgot what key to press, luckily the hint is there for me every single time cuz i cant remember to press the f key"

[cobalt agate]

I think medical care should be the whole limb as opposed a very specific part of the limb that can sometimes clip through the ground and opening a fence being counting pixels is absolutely moronic and not at all “IMMERSIVE or REALISTIC”

[cobalt agate]

you are joking but yes 😭

[waxen holly]

arma is not the game for you if you cant remember the most simple keybind in the entire game

[obtuse fjord]

Different people, different experiences, perceptions and skills

[cobalt agate]

I run logistics not remember button prompts, traumatic brain injuries effect your brain in ways you’d not expect

[waxen holly]

Do you also look through the controls to remember how to walk forward? forget the WASD keys often?

look through the controls to remember how to shoot ur gun

then u also gotta look down at ur keyboard every time u go to walk forward cuz u forgot where the W key was

[cobalt agate]

that is different those are the same with every single game and have been for a long time

[rare pilot]

The weird troll is back
Ignore them Lekker

[waxen holly]

almost every video game has either E or F as the action key

[rare pilot]

Or Spacebar like Arma 3

Or left click like most indie games
Or Q like some other games

There's 5 standard Interaction buttons, the only button that'scommon is the Reload button being R

[waxen holly]

is there any game that has a default reload button that isnt r

[rare pilot]

There's a handful I can think of and only for specific weapons

Like this game Road to Vostok, where with shotguns and single loaded rifles, you hold Control to open the gate/bolt and put shells in one by one with Left Click

Cause R is reserved for cycling the Action
Bolt, pump, etc

[olive trail]

a lot of games has the reload on square

[waxen holly]

were talking about pc

[olive trail]

plug in a controller into the pc. it's the better gaming experience after all.

[waxen holly]

said no one ever

[rare pilot]

Controller is great for most videogames

[olive trail]

like csgo for example

[rare pilot]

The only genres Mouse comes in handier are more niche ones like RTS, and alot of FPS games

[waxen holly]

mkb trumps controller in almost every video game, only games like maybe assassins creed is a controller superior

[olive trail]

skill issue

[waxen holly]

mouse is more accurate and keyboard has more buttons

[rare pilot]

Don't need a million buttons to play videogames

[cobalt agate]

driving is the only thing I’d say works best with controller that and smooth, slower movements like some cinematic sheeeeeit

[waxen holly]

may i introduce you to arma

[rare pilot]

Elden Ring is better on Controller

[rare pilot]

A niche game that less than 20,000 people or less play daily?

15,000 in Arma 3 and 5,000 in Reforger?

[waxen holly]

is that supposed to be a gotcha

[rare pilot]

Well duh
Most games aren't Arma and most games use a super small portion of the keyboard, lmao

[waxen holly]

look what you said

you said "video games do not require a million buttons"

you did not say "most video games do not require a million buttons"

[rare pilot]

I hate mentally ill people

[cobalt agate]

I hate people

[rare pilot]

This clown is a textbook case of why

[waxen holly]

not my fault you are illiterate

[real dome]

why do you hate to hate

[rare pilot]

🤡

He has no life and no one loves him, so he seems attention online

[waxen holly]

cryer doesnt know how to use a keyboard he can only handle the simpleton controller

[cobalt agate]

Do not bring more hostility to hostility, like you told to me ignore them.

[rare pilot]

It's not hostility it's a fact

If he can't handle the truth that's his issue

[waxen holly]

incorrect usage of the words fact and truth

[obtuse fjord]

Ladies, be nice.

[rare pilot]

Yes daddy, sorry daddy

[cobalt agate]

that’s cool and all but the AKU-94 exists and it haunts me

[rare pilot]

Cursed

[brisk brook]

Mmmmm bulpup

[errant leaf]

i did not know road to vostok had this, sounds like a really nice feature!

[viral pecan]

Added video of the shovel bug

[rare pilot]

Ive been having it too

[simple kindle]

me too,very annoying

[viral pecan]

Add this to supply system lag and you have worst experience you can get from the game

[foggy wyvern]

I dont even need to play conflict to suffer

[errant leaf]

BI a few of your clouds have very visible seams

[ornate shard]

Yeah I have been noticing that too after the latest major update. They did some big changes to the cloud system right?

[foggy wyvern]

atmospheric front

[ornate shard]

Battle royale zone edge

[cobalt agate]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shut-up-be-quiet-funny-gif-19370091

[slim jackal]

idk why but no matter of environment quality these clouds always look like a play-doh to me. somehow very uncanny.

[real dome]

Please, when explosives come, let us attach them to infantry

Ill take a tk kick just to kill a enemy vic

[cobalt agate]

Devs please do not add remote detonation explosives, I beg you I hear American’s make the same joke when they fire an RPG it’ll be 10x worse with remote explosives

[real dome]

skill issue

[broken scaffold]

When we get remote explosives I'm putting on my best Scottish accent and becoming demoman tf2

[cobalt agate]

krill issue

[cobalt agate]

A BOTTLE OF SCRUMPY

[broken scaffold]

KA-BEWM

[ornate shard]

Or if they are added make them wired.

[cobalt agate]

this or a certain range for the clacker to work

[ornate shard]

Yeah dont think wireless firing devices were that common in the 80s

[brisk brook]

They still arent. There is a good reason for that. Because once you press that button, and nothing happens you have a whole new issue.

Wire is way more reliable than wireless.

[errant leaf]

sometimes they look great, but other times they do look like play-dough 😆

[errant leaf]

we could get vanilla night vision solution, i just remember that the BRDM-2 commander has access to night vision periscope and IR headlights

[broken scaffold]

Oh neat

Think the LAV also has NV and Thermal capability

If we get those two systems though i speculate they'll come with some form of night vision considering why would they make vehicle night vision and not something for infantry considering the main thing of arma is infantry combat

[errant leaf]

historical accuracy would be why they havent done it for infantry, but some NV tanker helmets would also be nice

[viral pecan]

Running around with MG+sniper+backpack full of ammo isn’t also historically accurate-yet available in game.

[main tide]

so an/pvs7's for US team? 😆

[broken scaffold]

Tbf we have the colt 723 which regular infantry were not given.

[broken scaffold]

Most likely yes

IF they ever do NVGs that is

[rare pilot]

Out of scope for Reforger

[main tide]

*727. The 723 did not have M16A2 style sights.

[broken scaffold]

My bad

[errant leaf]

it isnt not historically accurate, it is just silly exploit due to the game not punishing it

tbh it does punish this however by taking more much more supplies and making you easier to spot in many cases, stamina needs a bit more work though

[real dome]

if a stamina system and hold breath comes to reforger, then prolly it will be enough to punish too much weight

[ornate shard]

Would be cool to get proper crew equipment yeah.
Like the soviet tanker helmets that we over in Finland call "Wiener Beanies"

[ornate shard]

Simply making your maximum movement speed (running, turning, climbing) be affected by your load would pretty much eliminate this problem

It would probably also make idiots want to spawn in with cheaper loadouts so that they wouldnt waste all the supplies

[errant leaf]

they have already teased them in their marketing images, so the "Wiener Beanies" are 100% coming

[olive trail]

they can do slower ads, or more time to raise your weapon

[ornate shard]

Yeah this should also depend on the weapon so that a machine gun is not always the best choice for CQB.

[brisk brook]

Instead use a smoothbore musket

[broken scaffold]

I do wonder what bayonets will be capable of

[violet vale]

stabbing probably? :p

[broken scaffold]

I mean like, wouldn't it be sorta difficult to simulate the actual thing of stabbing someone with a bayonet? Or would it just be the animation of stabbing and the person on the receiving end just takes damage without anything else

Actually now that I say it out loud that makes alot more sense

[cobalt agate]

The m249 saw is absolutely the best choice for cqb, the m60 should be malfunctioning badly by 1989

[ornate shard]

That is why I said "not always" 🙂

[cobalt agate]

I am readn’t

[main tide]

Hold breath is needed only because guns aren't stable enough even with full stamina, and supported by a object Anyone who done any sniping beyond like 500 meters would agree

[real dome]

before it was even worse when you couldnt even lean the gun on a object

[brisk brook]

Suggestion for loading screen of a scenario, a warning when starting a scenario with mods loaded.

Eg you've just played on modded server, jump into singleplayer, and dont realise why game is behaving weirdly. Its cause you had 20 mods loaded and you didnt check mod manager before hand.

Something simple as in Arma3 top right of the loading screen.

[ornate shard]

This already is a thing no?

[brisk brook]

Is it?! If so its very unnoticable, i never saw it tbf

[ornate shard]

In the top right corner

[brisk brook]

Lemme check...

[ornate shard]

Or is it only in multiplayer, not sure anymore

[brisk brook]

it is there, but honestly i never noticed it before xD, perhaps if it was yellow...

[errant leaf]

I agree, ATM it is to snappy

[main tide]

Ads is slow enoigh as is. If anything ads could be increased on lighter weapons like carbines.

[errant leaf]

Ads is fine, but I do agree that we need the speed to vary per weapon, but weapon raise and lower is to fast

[broken scaffold]

People are too coddled, get rid of ads entirely

[real dome]

aiming down scope?

[cobalt agate]

no aim downsights for m16 hipfire like an 80s action film

[olive trail]

someone carrying 40 or 50 kilos shouldn't ads as fast as someone carrying 30kilos is what I meant

[main tide]

Why? is the weight distributed on the arms?

[olive trail]

to balance the weight system

[main tide]

Sounds like something modders or custom server hosts can do

[olive trail]

better have it in vanilla

[broken scaffold]

I think ads speed is for the most part fine, I think improvements must come from stamina and so on. I also feel like if your stamina is empty you shouldn't be able to do the standard jog, and should probably be restricted to a walking speed

[main tide]

the problem with that is your stamina decreases even doing jogging. You cant expect to sprint if youve been jogging a certain ammount first. so jogging should be the default speed unless your trying to haul comically unrealistic loads like maybe 70 to 80 kilos.

there also no point in having a discussion about speed reduction if people are unable to acknowledge there is a differentiation between carrying 30 kilos of weight alone in your rugsack, versus all of that weight being distrubted all around your body via gear, and clothing combined

[broken scaffold]

So what, no point in stopping people from hauling an RPG and PKM and pistol and medical supplies because irl weight works differently?

[olive trail]

even at 40 kilos, you will be marching, and not jogging for any distance that matter

[main tide]

irl you will also need to eat and drink, but thats not a problem in reforger

[olive trail]

irl you have to shit and piss too, and it's not a problem in reforger

[main tide]

yes proving why this discussion is pointless

[olive trail]

how come

[main tide]

its not impossible to jog with 40 kilos. were already restricted with how much sprint time we have at 30 kilos.

so i dont see a problem

[olive trail]

I see a problem in the form of single player running a squad worth of arsenal

and having the competitive advantage for doing so

[main tide]

yeah and i also see a problem when your only limited to 24 players per each team on official servers and 64 players max on a custom server with no AI, for what is supposed to be a conventional shooting war between 2 super powers

64 players ( per team), is not even a company sized unit

[olive trail]

play on community
now that we fix your problem, we can try to fix mine

[main tide]

allowing players to tolerate some extra weight, is reasonable to simulate the scale of bigger battle

[olive trail]

instead of doing this, in practice it makes lone wolfing the meta, and instead of bigger battles, you get shootout like it's dayz

[broken scaffold]

Ok but the issue isn't "why isn't my guy going to the bathroom regularly" it's "people are playing a realism-focused team-based game as doom guy"

I am not the guy to ask about like exact weights and how much you should be able to carry or shouldn't but this is still sub-optimal

[olive trail]

it's shouldn't be realistic base, it should be gameplay base.

[main tide]

let people be disorganized then and strain thier supply systems. itl allow the other team to win. Its already much harder to lone wolf when you can no longer deconstruct enemy capped bases with shovels and have to cope with AI squads from barracks no longer being so stupid.

its really the smaller servers that feel like people were forced to lone wolf. 32 players ( even with 48) is kinda hard to expect any sizable units to be expected to conduct multiple front offensives, and still have left over manpower for defense and logistics.

[broken scaffold]

That's hardly a willing choice though, the official server player cap is because that's what the devs say is "stable" so that's what is confirmed to run fine with AI and such. I imagine one day we'll get 64 and maybe even 128 player servers WITH ai and all but for rn I think the best is to just stick to maps like Arland since it fits a bit better with 24 v 24 fighting than everon

[main tide]

on custom servers I see much larger squads be formed, without the proposed limitations present. been playing some dark GRU as of late, and supplies are cheaper on a lot of things then vanilla game. and ive been seeing objectives regularily assualted and defended by squads, rather then constant lone wolfing

an rpg7 is only 22 supply points, and pg7vm rocket only 4 supply points.

[main tide]

i agree that arland is better with the smaller player count, but with only 2 MOB spawns on the entire map, it makes spawn camping predictable and easy to do even for someone who doesnt even know the map inside out, even in early stage of the game. the distance between 2 MOB's is so close that you dont even need to bother flying people out to do it.

[rare pilot]

Yeah, they did a recent balance patch for all the costs of weapons cause kits on their server could get in the 200s to respawn with, and on average were above 70 for Riflemen alone
I applaud them for the change

[main tide]

so until we are able to disasseble MOB's and relocate them, i will still opt for everon just to not get spawn camped within first 10 minutes of game.

[broken scaffold]

Yeah true, maybe they could add more places MOBs could spawn?

[olive trail]

the way I will do it is up to 50%, I will slow down the jogging speed 5% for every kilo over 27 kilos.

[rare pilot]

YES, that is something Ive been advocating for for awhile

[main tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BqQn5vAcio

which ones are doing the jogging during PT here? the one in the full combat gear or the ones in the T shirts and shorts 🙂

[olive trail]

the one with at most 30 kilos worth of gear

[main tide]

really? i thought that would of been a sprint 🙂

because the current pace of jogging in reforger appear to be the slower pace those other marines were doing in T shirts, the ones he was doing circles around.

[olive trail]

you can do this in game too. it's sprinting. in game, you can sprint for a while too on 30 kilos

[main tide]

only if your stamina is full, you have some sprinting ability at that weight. But again arma doesnt even distinguish between evenly weight distrubuted 30 kilos entire kit, versus carrying that all in a backpack. SO i dont see a need to reduce joging pace [past 30 kilos when past a certain weight its basically impossible to sprint anyways. maybe by 50 kilos we can discuss reducing jogging pace to brisk walk pace

[olive trail]

I see a need to reduce jogging pace when past a certain weight.

[rare pilot]

I think that it should also matter with Stamina

Stamina bar should be way larger and Sprinting take up alot more of it
That way after it reaches a certain level, say below 35%, you move slower and slower until it caps out at 10% or less stamina, and you move almost at a literal snails pace, barely dragging yourself forward if you exert yourself too much
This would require like ten minutes of holding the Shift bar, meaning if you just Jogged for 15 minutes youll arrive at the battle with like 75% of stamina
But if you sprint the whole way youll end up with little to no stamina, making the ensuing firefight harder cause you move slower

[cobalt agate]

Realism and gameplay is a balancing thing, at the moment interactives being at very specific spots i.e bandaging and opening doors as opposed to the whole limb or whole door just makes it feel unpolished as opposed to “realistic”

[frosty gulch]

I would love more sway when out of stamina and hold breath feature and make it so that the heavier you are the slower your sway and stamina recover. 🤷‍♂️

[vestal pond]

It would be nice to see a modern section added to reforger as well , adding a basic modern with 2 maps for game master and a couple factions ,weapons etc.. but also adding a couple of the arma 3 dlc to the game able to be purchased by those of us that would want to . The content is already there itd just need to be added to reforger with abit of reformatting and adding the reforger full controller suport , controller players we deserve to experience modern combat as well dont we ? I really hope the developing team could strongly consider this idea because lets face it the mods on reforger usually dont work very well i have yet to beable to create and play an actual scenario in game master without random error codes , but also joining someones created server reuires to download 40 to 80 mods which i cant do on console (xbox series s ) no matter what i do please devs just consider it theres no harm in adding a modern section in reforger and it is doable for those that agree and would like this idea or have any suggestions please give a thumbs up and reply with suggestions
😊👍🏼😎 hope everyone is well

[real dome]

reforger wont be modern officially

its 80s

[ornate shard]

The content is definitely not just "there".
Reforger is a Cold War era game so wait for Arma 4.

[frosty gulch]

but A4 also gonna be cold war most likely, if they are reusing assets

[real dome]

and its not a ctrl c, ctrl v for the dlcs

[vestal pond]

I respect your reply thank you 😊, but from what i understand arma4 is set to be the same era as reforger which is why i suggested that reforger have a modern era section/tab added at least , since its only a hub to hold over until arma4 if they were to add the modern section and bring over a couple purchaseable arma3 dlc to be used in a modern section with basic content also then it could be left as a suitabke full game itself

[frosty gulch]

sorry but wont happen

[real dome]

thats not easy work tho, at all. it takes time and i dont think bi will do that since moving stuff from a3 to reforger isnt a click and drop action

and what can you bring to reforger when reforger is missing a lot of a3 features

[frosty gulch]

mby at later stages of A4 with some DLCs, but I think thats years away

[real dome]

what we know will come to reforger is the roadmap, the rest is undetermined.

[cobalt agate]

If I wanted a modern shooter I wouldn’t play Arma reforger it just seems weird to request it, that’s like buying chocolate and opening up and asking for icecream instead. You knew what you were purchasing

[real dome]

Could we get a building thats just primarly for holding supplies at bases for conflict?

Like just allows us to build the empty fia ones, so we can store supplies without having to build a arsenal which somebodys gonna waste all supplies through

[pure gyro]

And make it buildable by the construction truck, I would love to create a mini-base to hold supplies just outside a defense point in-case someone is attacking or just to prepare a supply cache nearby to bring over once friendlies capture the base, or even just being able to prepare a small cache for extra supplies in case the base runs out so you dont have to drive the whole trip to replenish the base

plus it would give us more reason to use the camo nets in random places, like to actually hide something(as opposed to using it as a silly shaped 'guard tower', or something to get on/look over houses)

[rare pilot]

I've put the camo nets over like Sandbags and stuff

To hide armored vehicles like BMPs and small vehicles like HMMWVs

[pure gyro]

Well yeah same, like 9 times in my entire 2600 hours lol there is not much benefit to dragging the cons truck halfway across map

[rare pilot]

I also build sandbags around the mobile HQ

[pure gyro]

I already use cons truck in place of regular canvas transport truck but still feels like it could use that extra little usage that would go a long way to usability

[rare pilot]

Whenever I get a mobile HQ I do a mini convoy with a HMMWV and CV, or a UAZ PKM and a CV

[pure gyro]

In the past 4 months, I've only seen 2 other people use cons truck in the 300+ hours in that time...

[waxen holly]

cap

[frosty gulch]

Go read it, theyre reusin assets and stuff

[waxen holly]

proof

[frosty gulch]

Here you go bud

[waxen holly]

reused assets could be as simple as trees and birds

[frosty gulch]

Historical context

Aka cold war, same as Reforger

[waxen holly]

Why tf would they use the exact same era if its gonna be a whole different game

it will literally just be arma reforger but more features

[frosty gulch]

To save a bunch of time

[waxen holly]

more like waste a bunch of time

might as well update arma reforger to be arma 4 if its gonna be literally the same era

[frosty gulch]

Arma reforger is like early early alpha of A4, kinda

[waxen holly]

Surely they wouldnt dare make arma 4 a cold war game so that we all have to mod in modern technology

that would piss everyone off

[frosty gulch]

I think that a lot of people already know, it was mentioned since day 1, you are just a bit late

[pure gyro]

Speak for yourself, imo Cold war era > modern warfare era

[frosty gulch]

I also like cold war setting

[waxen holly]

easier to mod in cold war shit to a modern game than the other way around

you can like the cold war setting and not want it to be the core of the game

[frosty gulch]

Its not that deep man

[waxen holly]

making the game cold war makes it annoying for anyone who wants to play modern settings because modders have to go do it all now

[waxen holly]

yeah it actually is that deep

[main tide]

paid CDLC's ( or BI expansions)

[waxen holly]

turning a cold war game into a modern game you'd have to ADD features as a modder, while turning a modern game into a cold war game youd simply just remove features

remove plate carriers, remove night vision goggles, remove modern weapons, remove the fancy holographic sights, remove the GPS etc.

but if the game is already cold war now you get modders who make subpar versions of those features

naw i dont think bohemia is gonna make arma 4 cold war that'd be a stupid design choice

reforger it makes sense for it to be cold war cuz its just a tech demo anyway

they can add the fancy features in arma 4 and have the basic ones in reforger naturally

[main tide]

not all modders make subpar stuff toBI. anyone see RHS for arma3 ? i liked how you could roll down humvee windows. or even choose to leave door open when disembarking ( so as to provide cover)

[waxen holly]

u dont understand what im saying

its gonna be way harder to try and code in a feature such as GPS or red dot sight, because its not a core part of the game

[frosty gulch]

Gps is already in a mod

[waxen holly]

some modders have done this already but they are, as ive said, subpar

[real dome]

red dot sights are apart of the game

[waxen holly]

theyre modded in

[frosty gulch]

Vanilla

[main tide]

^ vanilla. Not modded reference. the us team gets aimpoint 2000 ( red dot)

red dot sight from late 80s that was adopted by delta force on use on thier carbines of the time

[real dome]

actually modders also had a sample for red dots before

[main tide]

modders also did helicopters berfore BI added vanilla content. wasn't very flyable

[frosty gulch]

The Cold war era is actually a really good time frame for A4 imop

[main tide]

so bad i never touched the blackhawk mod till post 1.0 patch

[frosty gulch]

They were indestructible😂

[main tide]

forget about damage model, the flight model is what was the real problem

[pure gyro]

It just felt very.. slidey..

[frosty gulch]

I think I flew it once and yes they were bad, similar to dayz mods

[foggy wyvern]

you mean the helicopter flight model they used that was actually the vanilla one?

[frosty gulch]

Wdym

[cobalt agate]

No it wasn’t lmao

[broken scaffold]

It's the '80s not the '60s, arma 4 can have all the trappings of modern warfare and be in the era.

All you miss out on is modern helmets, body armor, and weapons and also drones

[waxen holly]

yeah give me drones and body armor and modern helmets

[olive trail]

I puke a bit in my mouth every time I see an m4 block 2

[main tide]

best ar15 build next to the Hk416 👍

[olive trail]

an m4 without the front iron sight is not an m4 at all. it's an imposter

[broken scaffold]

Hell you even get some drones considering the RQ-2

They had NVGs, thermals, modern AFVs of all sorts

[main tide]

there are block 2 builds that retain the sight ( 2 in 1, gas block and front iron sight), but its just removed for a low profile gas block generally speaking becuase the ironsights are moot when red dots or eotech holosights are standard issue. all that front iron sight does is obscure your sight picture.

and even then there are backup front post iron sight that can be installed on the picatanny railing

[olive trail]

This is peak m4. since then, it been going downhill

[main tide]

this style of m4 ( m4 block1/1.5) is still in use today amongst normal grunts. Its only socom that gets block 2 builds

although it seems it may gradually get replaced for sig m5

[broken scaffold]

To whichever dev made it so a Skoda running into a cargo truck leads to the Skoda being destroyed thank you that is the funniest shit ever

[main tide]

helicopters should have navigation systems. For Uh1H and mi8 radio navigation based, beacons that will show course indicators presented on a analog horizontal situation indicator showing a relative bearing towards the radio source. a Automatic direction finder if you will.

the way i would do this in reforger is having any freindly bases that have an antenna errected to be selectable to navigate to

flying purely via visual navigation is fine during daytime, but very problematic in adverse weather conditions. EG below Night time, Overcast and full rain. very disorienting without any functional onboard navigation system.

granted in todays standards VOR or NDB radio are obsolete and backup of backups ( even older then TACAN) but its still better then nothing, and at least with the platforms in reforger i am not aware of more sophisticated forms of navigation like Inertial navigation system with programmable waypoints ( and of course no GPS becuase cold war)

^ eventually found way back to MOB

[spiral basin]

please for the love of god fix the supplies spawning on top of heli rotors when you unload onto the ground. ive had it happen both times i tried because if you dont land on a helipad its impossible to efficiently move supplies

[viral pecan]

I've had same problem multiple times

[dense swan]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to make an additive breathing animation that can be used on all animations ? Currently some have breathing, others not. Maybe such universal additive could give one to all.

With variations of course, depending on usage.

[foggy wyvern]

sv_fullbright 1

[main tide]

to add some positive feedback on observed fixes. Its nice to see Uh1H no longer spins on the ground if you get out with engine running👍

[violet vale]

there is, for the most part.

[ornate shard]

Yeah it is just not very visible all the time unless you really pay attention to it

[violet vale]

that depends what we are talking about: there is animated breathing on the body (what I am talking about)
I do not think this should be too visible. but also this doesnt affect aiming sway.

the sway is handled purely procedurally.

[ornate shard]

But they are both controlled by the stamina system right? The frequency and amplitude

[ornate shard]

Btw are there any plans about adding freedrawing on the map like in A3?
It is something that us milsim players would appreciate as we use a lot more graphical control measures than the built in map markers.
Also drawing paths and such would benefit everyone.

[brisk brook]

Id love drawing like in a3. Markers are cool. But sometimes its better to just doodle something

[foggy wyvern]

I know what I'd doodle

[ornate shard]

Yes on public servers unfortunately sometimes you will see a 15-years olds interpretation of the male anatomy...

[foggy wyvern]

in the industry we call it TTD

[ornate shard]

But again it should be something server owners can control in the server config, just like marker auto deletion settings etc.

[visual flicker]

Every time I try to load a save file from Solo GM to multiplayer GM it never loads. All vanilla no mods

[cobalt agate]

Imagine if you could add text to your m1 helmet like they did in nam

Born to shit, forced to wipe

[oak flare]

Come on... you know everyone would just be running around with dicks on their head, right?

[cobalt agate]

I fail to see the issue but I was mainly talking about text not shapes

[oak flare]

Do you want me to draw out a penis emoji 😂

[foggy wyvern]

I would write "friendly" over it so enemies would think I'm on their side and not shoot me

[ionic vapor]

We could really do with better loading screen tips take Insurgency Sandstorm for example

[cobalt agate]

We have a “Intentionally attacking non combatants is a warcrime” despite there not being any.