reforger_feedback

[main tide]

people who finish a sucessfull extraction are going to be basically as heavy as a rambo.

[olive trail]

they also won't load with that much, because they will move like turtles, because of the system.

People run gear within the range, because it means they can move around easier, make less noise, have less inertia in their movement.

This is why people will also dump their bags when fighting, which is something you never feel obliged to do in ar.

[ornate shard]

All I am going to say about Tarkov that in early days I used to exfil raids with 4-6 weapons in my backpack and it did not affect my stamina nearly at all. There definitely was space and even more so when you know how to strip the weapons.
But why are we talking about Tarkov here all the time?
Different genre different purpose.
Some mechanics can sure be influenced by mechanics from other games but I don't like how people always bring up Tarkov when talking about Arma.

[main tide]

really? i must be a rarity because thats what i commonly do. if i need to make a mad dash an there isnt any in between areas to rest and recover

[ornate shard]

Also if you want to talk about real life comparisons, the M72 LAW should rattle like a rattlesnake. Never carried one that didn't.
A lot of older gear is not like modern plate carriers etc.

[main tide]

its only the soviet team where i find it more problematic to do so versus US team. becuase thier rigs dont allow as much stuff as Alice system, and i feel more compelled to be backpack reliant.

[olive trail]

You are indeed a rarity, because it's not even something that you need to do outside of larping.

[main tide]

as a grenadier I can take the Alice machine gunner loadout, and still be able to stuff like 10 magazines and 14 40mm HE 2 hand frags and a smoke. My backpack is just for some extra medical supplies.

i just dont feel i need it if its a situation critical. I can shed it.

[ornate shard]

You just should not be able to look like this and run, jump and climb over obstacles completely normally with nothing but a slightly increased weapon sway.

If only movement speed was slower, turning inertia greater, prone to standing animation slower and climbing obstacles height lower, you wouldn't even need to touch the stamina or breathing system.
It is actually somewhat of a separate issue than your encumbrance affecting your general agility.

[olive trail]

with that much gear in tarkov, I would be moving like a literal snail.

forget tarkov. even in a3, you would be moving in slow motion with that much gear.

[ornate shard]

And while most people are able to carry quite a heavy backpack while walking, doing certain movements with it are very difficult or pretty much impossible, like going to prone and standing up for example.
There is a reason why there is even a specific technique on how to lift the backpack on your back from the ground.

[olive trail]

This is what I run as a basic gear in tarkov. I go over that weight, and what I can do start to get restricted bit by bit the heavier my gear becomes.

[ornate shard]

Why is Tarkov related to this anymore? 😄

[olive trail]

the use a system that reward running less gear that works.

the same system is used in a3m kind of.

[main tide]

Is this what you run just to deathmatch other players? theres not much space for loot without carrying any sort of backpack. Imo it's also a matter of preference. And dependent on strength skill as well affected whether you pop stims to enhance your endurance, because even my own character could run 40-45 kilos with 2 weapons if i didn't care about having room for loot.

[olive trail]

I removed the backpack to show all the gear, since the backpack is empty.

also, it's mod to late wipe, so I don't actually do any looting.

[main tide]

thats unsual becuase im on a discord with some tarkov old timers who are have access to level 4 traders, have bitcoin farms and they still run massive backpacks and keep em empty just because thats the dedicated loot space, which includes taking any weapons, gear or ammo deemed good enough from players that they killed.

to each thier own i guess

[olive trail]

we call those ones garbage collectors.

[main tide]

if you say so.

[rare pilot]

I call them neckbeards

And basement dwellers

[main tide]

i thought those were titles reserved for arma reforger players who have somehow managed to acumulate thousands of hours before the game was even 1.0.

[rare pilot]

:c

My ego
You broke it

[errant leaf]

thank goodness i have under 1000 hours somehow

[errant leaf]

last time I checked ego repair cost was 100 supplies

[broken scaffold]

Another thing to add onto this imo that'd be nice is some form of a "level of damage" or whatever it'd be called. The ability to just use one bandage to heal all wounds from 9mm to shrapnel tearing through your body is funky to say the least. Would be nice if you'd actually have to expend some tourniquets and say multiple bandages to heal.

I am no medical expert and all but it does feel off

[fair dove]

Never been hit by a nade? Those things seem to damage every body part requiring many bandages, tourniquets, and even saline to heal someone.

[broken scaffold]

What I mean is something like requiring multiple bandages to heal one part. If a frag goes off to your right and knocks you out it'd likely pelt your right side with shrapnel, my suggestion is to require more than one bandage to fix up a limb with likely multiple wounds on it

Idk this is my idea to add on to what was said, so that you can slow down medical stuff, necessitate things like CCPs and medics and ambulances more.

Otherwise though one big improvement would be for them to actually let you drag and carry bodies

[ornate shard]

There are already 4 different severity ratings for wounds. It could be pretty easily changed by changing the bandage effectiveness.

Requiring multiple bandages to heal a severely damaged limb could be interesting, but I would like to see more types of bandages first.
And it would be difficult to prevent it from turning into bandage spamming minigame.

[broken scaffold]

Wait wtf there's types of bandages?

[warm cypress]

theres 2 types in game files, 1 type in game. if you mean in real life, then yes. theres a lot.

[broken scaffold]

That ain't right

[warm cypress]

ace from a3 has field dressings, elastic, packing, maybe more

[ornate shard]

and quickclot and field dressing

[cobalt agate]

make everything serve a purpose, whats the point of binoculars or medics if you can keep respawning until you wear the enemy down

[olive trail]

why do we even need medics to be useful

[cobalt agate]

Because otherwise what is the point of the medic backpack that is objectively worse than the alice, that is just a waste of dev time and resource

[modern wind]

There is more gameplay beyond Conflict and PVP

[cobalt agate]

I am aware, conflict is a lot of pve anyways plus gamemaster but as I said, medics aren’t very useful with the terrible medic backpacks for both soviets and Americans

[warm cypress]

drip.

[cobalt agate]

Okay 200% valid

[upbeat raptor]

if there are many explosions near the player and he dies, but there are still explosions, his corpse may fly into the air and hang

[frosty fiber]

did you try updating your GPU drivers? That usually helps 😉

[main tide]

It's a lighter and smaller alternative to alice. I use it even when I'm not medic.

I basically treat it as an "assault pack" wheras alice is just an oversized rugsack

[viral pecan]

when you unload supplies from UH1 and load back in again then sometimes supplies end up on top of main rotor, breaking it.

[ornate shard]

When adding the HQ role please make the callsign manager support HQ elements.
So that the commanders group would be "Atlas" and the commanders callsign "Atlas 6".
Same for the platoons.
I don't know, this might be a super niche thing tough but my brain is hurting trying to mod the amazingly dynamic but complex callsign system.

Also would be cool if the NATO symbols would have the HQ symbol available as well as the already existing but not fully implemented echelon amplifiers too please

[foggy wyvern]

seems like the game caps out at 5 GB RAM and 5.6 GB VRAM? will memory budgets for textures and meshes be controllable or raised in next version?

[errant leaf]

that would be a relief, some more optimized object loading would also be greatly appreciated

[slow cradle]

BI please disable spawning at bases that are being captured entirely, and if needed make it a bit longer to cap bases so it gives time to the enemy team to spawn elsewhere, grab a car and a squad and come back, it would make much more interesting combat situations, and not the old cheap spawn killing that the game been having since day 1

[cobalt agate]

please also make respawns take longer and punishments worse for hitting respawn, I am literally beside you with bandages and morphine, perish in real life, worm

[noble beacon]

Maybe hide first part to spoiler

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/roadmap

[cerulean gazelle]

thank fk for this update. too long have us console players been at a massive CQB disadvantage vs PC and their ability to lean on the fly. NO MORE!

[broken summit]

any hotfix for autokick because of TK ? whichever i picked server some trolls have super fun now knowing they wont be autokick when throw grenades or sniping at main bases

[glossy tulip]

Which servers? Community or official?

[broken summit]

community

[glossy tulip]

Vanilla or modded? Which Gamemode? Have you also tried on official servers?

[broken summit]

i will test it with my friend on some offcial servers so i will let you know, but seeing people doing tk and not being kicked seems a little bit off

[olive trail]

This morning I got in, first thing I saw was someone doing the grenade, then respawn trick to kill teammates around the armory. Then they realised they can straight up shoot everyone, and not get banned, so they did exactly that. Killed 12 teammates, and didn't get an autokick from the game.

[glossy tulip]

Just to be sure, are those servers vanilla or modded? Since some mods might change behaviour of TK detection

[olive trail]

pbs server so vanilla. there wasn't any mod on it.

[foggy wyvern]

still not fixed? I think it been broken for a bit

[olive trail]

Thankfully, the vote kick is working, and we are able to vote kick obvious trolls who are raging in the spawn. It does take some time though.

[glossy tulip]

Well it is strange since it was passed as functional in RC check before it was pushed.
Would be good to know if it happens on more servers or only PBS.

[broken summit]

i just tested it on official server with my friend i was kicked after 7 Team kills and after that i still could join the server, it was normal kick not temp ban

[glossy tulip]

Yeah that i think is intended behavior, next time it would bd probably ban with each following ban with higher time.

Will se if we find something tomorrow

[hexed mason]

Hello updates is cool but my main issue I'm having is I can't clear entities. So the server is going to be lagged out from dropped clothing, destroyed vehicles and dead characters.

Any news of a fix?

[ornate shard]

Yeah I experienced the same during GM'ing today, the button did nothing. But I thought it was caused by a mod as it worked in experimental

[brisk brook]

They will clear if:

• No player around
• Entity older than 60 seconds

[opal thunder]

The button works, it just does not agressively delete items recently dropped as to not disturb your players mid-gameplay (e.g. them having exited a vehicle 5 seconds ago and now its gone).
Player being around does not matter Marko 🙂

[brisk brook]

rly?

oh only for auto gc?

[broken summit]

another bug, we cant dismantle anything on enemy base

the options for dimantle anything its just not showing up

[opal thunder]

Nearby players only keep the lifetime of an entity alive, it has no impact on flush. Flush looks at how long ago it was started to be tracked. This way a game master can use the button worry-free if for some reason the map gets too busy. Our updated rules should keep a fair balance between performance and not affecting gameplay. Players complained that their well-earned loot on AI or captured vehicles disappeared before their eyes, and rightfully so. We will continue to monitor performance and adjust the rules if necessary 🙂

[opal thunder]

Dismantling enemy structures was removed from the game.

[broken summit]

what ? why ?

then why fixing this then ? Fixed: Building and dismantling support structures in bases now has a real-time effect on the seizing timer

[opal thunder]

I suppose this was dismantling your own structures in your own base and or that was done before the change. I personally do not know much more about it, I will ask 🙂

[brisk brook]

comes from "Arkensor the disassembler"

[opal thunder]

Tbh I would not be surprised ... That was my go-to tactic. You are seconds away from winning and then woooomp-woooomp, now I destructed your main operating base antenna. Git gut 🙂

[pure gyro]

Yep this blew my mind reading that, I'm going to miss going 3 bases behind the enemy and gutting them while the team fights them

[foggy wyvern]

So I can still deconstruct everything the GM places

[brisk brook]

yep, unless you are trying to ambush something, there is really no reason for going "behind the lines"

[brisk brook]

I did that too alot. Also place mines all around their bases and depots, was funny to watch.

[sleek heart]

Can we get some kind of acknowledgement of this issue? https://feedback.bistudio.com/T176866
The TrackIR profile sensitivity went Waaaaay up a while back and trackIR is harder to use

[warm cypress]

why are banned mods being removed from our files? kind of annoying.

[real dome]

I dont think trackir is even supported

[sleek heart]

It worked out of the box on release. It's still supported, the curves just got destroyed sometime last year and my sensitivity has to be near 0 to be usable

But it requires me to use a wacky profile

[real dome]

Worked but wasnt supported, it it would have it would have been mentioned somewhere

[sleek heart]

I mean however you want to call it, TrackIR is on and enabled by default. You are right that there is no UI in game to tell anyone of this fact

It was well supported in Arma 3, and DayZ so I figure it's something that is intentional in Reforger and Arma 4... Sure, it might be low priority but I'd at least feel better hearing that

[real dome]

Probably unintended. I hope its gonna be officially supported

[fossil sequoia]

Really wish bi would release like a 24hr warning or something before a major game update, would make the transitions between updates a lot less hectic for mod creators, as we can just push an update for our mod either before or right after a major game update.

Would help mitigate the typical chaos for mods that ensues after a major game update.

[broken summit]

well make sense, but at least you could gave us option to dismantle things only when we attack base ?

[real dome]

There was devs hinting for this week update, and also there was a experiemental branch where u can update before update no?.

[fossil sequoia]

Yes, but the update today released in the middle of the work day for me, so i was unable to release a update for my mod till ~7 hours after the game update

[real dome]

Fair

[spare matrix]

I noticed the " Loiter here " action on some emplacements, could that be added to the gesture menu, so we can sit with our buddies.

[modern wind]

Map marker radial menu still bugged

[stray frost]

The AI using smoke is cool but they seem to not be able to see each other as well as I would expect near the edges of it. It was kind of fun watching them try to melee each other to death though

Also, I'm not sure how your "AI bandaging other AI" rules work but do you have a Z value check on the distance they need to be from each other? I don't have an exact picture of the moment, but a guy behind that window at the top of the stairs was seemingly bandaging the guy at the middle point of the stairs after he got wounded. I could be misinterpreting that but that's what it looked like.

[buoyant trout]

Are there any checks on what kinds of vehicles can spawn in what spaces for safehouses in Combat Ops?

[hexed mason]

I'm going back to my comment on the clearing of entities. I think that's complete butt and it's gonna fuck with any gm op and what not. If yall really wanted to fix the Arsenal and people loosing kits you could have made the Arsenal like arma 3 which was a way better program. To add to this you cant say it's not possible either because Bacon made a mod for something like that and it works. I like the other stuff you added but I think the entities not clearing right away will kill servers and down the line make it hard to play the game. Also using the in game mic and radio is a pain also. Idk why yall decided to touch those 2 things but it is gonna make the game unenjoyable. I already was complained to about entities not being cleared in my servers

I just don't understand why yall keep changing things that were already good. Yall ruin the good stuff yall did by fixing it "for the better"

I love your games so it hurts when I see every update backtrack something that didn't need to be fixed

[opal thunder]

The garbage system was NOT working as it should or else we would have not redone it. It was overaggressively deleting armored vehicles you were just fighting minutes for to clear out enemies, removing dead bodies you tried to restock your ammo and medic supplies on etc etc. Everything is being removed, just in due time without as much of an impact on gameplay. We have explained what and why it was changed in the changelog.

I do not really understand what your complaint is with the arsenal. You can save your loadouts. What do you mean with loosing kits? What does bacons mod have to do with any of that?

[burnt plinth]

There needs to be a separate invert vertical mouse axis for helicopters. You can now only invert it by inverting your vertical mouse axis in general, which makes no sense.

[hexed mason]

I get what the point of it is but yall need something that can hard clear because in gm people like to make an op that has mass ai and stuff and it makes it hard for people when the bodies won't clear automatically. And by Loadouts that's the wrong word. What I meant was dropped items that'd despawn to quick on players.

In essence my complaint is your reasoning for changing it is good but yall removed the immediate clearing which will make things difficult. Cause if you keep pulling shit out of the Arsenal and dropping it spawns will start getting lagging. I experienced it on experimental. People dropped a shit ton of clothing and my frames started to tank. Which is why a hard clear should be a thing not just a "I pushed clear time to wait" button. Admins should be able to hard clear if needed.

I'm probably not the only one who thinks this either. I know a lot of my buddies said the same thing to me.

"Hey Phantom clear entities bro"

I can't it doesn't happen right away.

Then they bitch

[opal thunder]

Admins are able to clear, but without the risk of deleting everything, including vehicles they just exited. What I do not understand right now is what you mean with OP. In gamemodes with supplies all the items being taken or when you spawn with your loadout cost something. If you drop it and leave it for somebody else that spawns in 5 seconds later you did not create anything out of thin air. If you are playing a GM scenario with infinite resources, then they can pull out as many items as they want anyway?

The armory is not main subject of the gameplay, once people move out and fight it will clear everything own its own. There should be 0 need for GM intervention and clear entities unless you just had a massive firefight where you artificially spawned 500 AI and their dead bodies are becoming too much. Many people doing things while all gathered at the armory will always be very demanding on your client performance, spawned items on the ground do not play as significant of a role in that.

We have not seen any pile ups of items or bodies that would hurt the server performance in the exp testing period. If things behave slightly differently on stable servers due to more players with different playstyle we have many small options to tweak the behavior. If you think you still need to do it differently the updated system provides you with a whole range of options to achive the exact behavior you want. We design it to work well for vanilla and community gamemodes we are aware of, and for those we have put a lot of thought into it.

Perhaps your players need to get accustomed to the system actually working now, as for the past few months it was not.

[opal thunder]

We are aware of it, but inverting the keybinds via an additional option will require some updates to our input handling which is not a small change. You should already able to achieve what you are looking for by configuring the "keybinds" itself.

[hexed mason]

My players are your players too. And when they complain I bring the complaints to you. Guess that's why so many of my players stopped playing. Thank you for your time overall the updates is cool. Those few things were the only complaints I was receiving. And I love the new Soviet customization.

[lone dove]

New gamemode is awesome. Would be cool if it had more survival elements and stealth/sabotage gameplay and missions

[foggy wyvern]

I agree with this take. We were able to immediately clear things before and now we are not able to, so this is a downgrade.

The garbage system/manager and the features surrounding it has been insufficient forever. The good news is that if I understand this correctly, smoke grenades will need 60 seconds to allow to be cleared. The bad news is that smoke grenades people throw to troll spawn points now need 60 seconds to allow to be cleared?

[ornate shard]

I want both.
In some cases it is better to clear things far away so that you don't break immersion but sometimes you need to be able to clear everything immediately.

Would it be too difficult to implement both functionalities like shift clicking the button or having 2 buttons side by side?

[foggy wyvern]

It's not difficult. It looks to me like the team working on this game is not aware how things work on public servers, otherwise those things would be implemented already.

For example, separate button to clear all projectiles/grenades, separate button to clear corpses/items/destroyed vehicles. Buttons to clear both only for entities that are visible in your view, ie. clearing one problem area like the spawn without clearing the operation's AO, etc

[ornate shard]

Yeah the more control the GM has the better. It is just difficult to still keep it approachable when you have a lot of control over things especially with consoles.
But still having separate buttons for different cleanup functions is a thing that should be in vanilla imo.

[foggy wyvern]

I saw that before you deleted it, my underbarrel grenade launcher sight camera is worse after the update

[cold pasture]

it does this when you re-equip it while still in launcher mode

changing zero fixes

[foggy wyvern]

picking up clothing from arsenals doesnt show inventory slots for them?

[coarse portal]

https://tenor.com/view/tarzan-ollas-monos-drummer-gif-10420395

[slow cradle]

Gotta leave the interface and re-open, it was also doing this to me on Exp

[fair dove]

my scenario has issues with the new method of spawning in AI: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T179917

[modern wind]

This error is on "Awaiting for internal testing" since 12 of January, no work on it by BI?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T178342

[limber warren]

I just found a way to endlessly tk in gm mode without getting kicked or banned if one of u devs could dm me that would be nice i dont want to release this info publicly

(let me know here if u dm me so i can add u or i wont see it)

[neon sparrow]

I cannot use the “clear dead or destroyed entities button” to remove bodies on my GTX server following the most recent update, even on Arland and Everon, without any mods loaded, is this a known bug?

[foggy wyvern]

it will remove only stuff that is on the ground for at least 60 seconds

[neon sparrow]

Thank you

[fresh ether]

Is tihs place to report bugs guys?

Running Bug

If so here is explanation of bug we found out today on our mission in community.

Simply said, its Running Bug , lets call it that way.
What happens is when ever characters go to water to swim , in 90% of chance when they get out of water, they will run weird , have sliding problems, animations of walking/running broke down.
To make it clear here is video presentation we published couple of minutes ago.

Player NewDawn was swimming for 15 seconds in deep water before this happening, ran out on shore, and boom there is bug.

I must say, we tested with mods we use, than we tested without mod for slowering strafing down. Than we tested completly vanilla. It happens in all 3 cases.

Also it happened to AI when they got out of water after swimming

Edit - In our mission we were dropping in water from helicopter, after that I noticed that more than half of squad have animation problems, just to see 1 hour later everyone having issues. Its fixed if player is killed and respawned

I will post this in Troubleshooting just in case someone finds fix.

2nd Edit: Better Quality video

**Presentation of Running Bug ** - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_qhkZu22c

[vernal vector]

Don't crosspost ...

[austere juniper]

i don’t like how bright it is during the day now, the game does this thing where over a few seconds of looking at something it’ll darken a bit like your eyes are adjusting but it just makes everything too bright.

[hollow pelican]

I think their lighting solution is an on going work in progress

[limber warren]

Ya both day and night have been way to bright since 1.0

[austere juniper]

night time is atleast a little better now but still not as dark as it was on release and i like the daylight lighting now just not when it does that brightness to your eye’s adjusting and then the lighting goes normal again

[vernal vector]

I don't know why games like doing this faux-HDR kind of thing. Arma 3 does this too when looking out of vehicle windows, makes it too bright.

[real dome]

Feedback tracker

[foggy wyvern]

memory budgets still seem too low in 1.1, sometimes

[fresh ether]

where to find that?

[real dome]

This channels description

[fresh ether]

Uh I was blind, thanks man

[distant ore]

Thanks for the report

[fresh ether]

Will post on tracker as well, I am try to figer out how it works 😂

[fresh ether]

Better video quality is uploaded, here is link https://youtu.be/8z_qhkZu22c

[cobalt agate]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-gif-1489225195979366584

[warm ridge]

Can we please get an option to turn global chat off in the settings? Or give options to manually turn off any chat like team, local, group and so on? The chat can be extremely distracting to me and not having an option to turn it off is frustrating

[vernal vector]

My GM scenario made in 1.0.0.98 after updating to 1.1.x

those are all opfor

seem to behave normally but the icons don't seem to load the colour

guys we need a mission editor 😭 🙏

[craggy orchid]

There is a minor focus bug in tab view component - after you change tab the first control on new tab will be out of focus. When you press your keyboard or gamepad arrows (left-right arrows), nothing will happen. The only way to regain control is to press down arrow key, and it will select next element as first element was in focus.
I noticed this inconsistency when started to work with SCR_TabViewComponent ({A971263DAE3AD8BC}UI/layouts/WidgetLibrary/TabView/WLib_TabViewHorizontal.layout), seems like it's tab control issue.

[obtuse fjord]

Hey Socrates, could you please open a ticket on the feedback tracker?
Cheers

[craggy orchid]

Oh, hello! Yeah, will create it soon 🙃

[obtuse fjord]

[insert General Kenobi meme]

[craggy orchid]

done 🙂
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T179972

[lusty flax]

Xbox: tried to load save into gamemaster server, crashed to dash

[austere juniper]

somehow the workshop is even more broken this update, some mods constantly say failed to download and then still show in my mod list and won’t let me update them or delete them or some mods just tell me failed to download when i try to update them and i have to reinstall them every time they update

[fair dove]

would love a way to check server fps via rcon

[warm cypress]

will we get a way to limit the number of people allowed on a team through GM in the future? it would help a lot.

[upbeat dew]

Xbox: can you guys add response curve options I don't like the current feel

[haughty pivot]

UAZ handbrake does not put the vehicle to a full stop (mounted weapon variants)

[vernal vector]

handbrake on other vehicles isn't clear either, they just sort of roll if you press w and s before the engine starts

update: some combination of the recent game update or a bios update has fixed this

[whole estuary]

i'm not a fan of how much more strict the kick system has been made. i joined a GM server where it was some clan training and i got kicked for "not being in the clan". then i couldn't join another server for 5 minutes. this whole kick system already seemed poorly implemented, but now it's made worse.

devs, just remove this archaic vote kick system and come up with a modern ban system like most games have these days.

[frosty fiber]

If it was a private server owned by that group, than it's in their right to kick you (although it would have been easier to use a password)...

[whole estuary]

not a private server lol. i'm not sure if getting kicked from a private server affects one's ability to join a public server for some time. i got kicked from an official server after one of them told the rest of his clan to kick me for not belonging with them. i got banned from joining any other server for the next 5 minutes. the kick system was already abused hard and isn't acceptable by modern standards. this update just made the system more rewarding for trolls.

[frosty fiber]

If it was an official server, send a DM to Dwarden with the server name, time when it happened and if you know who did it.
He can check the logs and handle those guys for claiming the server as their own.

And to be fair; the system also works better now against trolls 😉 At least they won't be able to server hop anymore.

[vital grail]

Feedback on the current supply system and the process of capturing control points.

Supply transportation inadequately rewards the player.
The truck is a slow, noisy, and large target. It's very easy not to reach the endpoint. And although supply delivery is crucial, the experience reward for it is minimal.
Overall, there is a high risk, significant time investment, low contribution to victory, and low reward.
Solution: increase experience rewards for supply delivery, increase supply truck capacity.

The truck's capacity is very small/prices for equipment and construction are too high.
If a player manages to deliver the supply, it's used up very quickly. A couple of player respawns, buying light transport, and 600 points ofsupply is gone. And the player spent 5-10 minutes on it. Not to mention base development; there are no resources for that.
Solution: significantly increase supply truck capacity.

Conflict mode is chaotic because of disadvantages of defending side.
Logically, the defending side should have an advantage. But in practice, it's the opposite.
Firstly, control points are usually empty because players are scattered across the map. So, it's not difficult for a single soldier to capture a base.
Secondly, attackers can take advantageous positions and simply camp defenders as they respawn.
Thirdly, attackers can place a radio or a truck with infinite respawns, and due to the increased respawn time for defense, there is no opportunity to use the supply for defense. And this could have been a good reason to bring in more supplies.
Solution: more supply in trucks, reduced respawn time for defenders + the next point.

Capturing control points with just a larger number of soldiers results in cheesy tactics for atackers.
The attacking side should show their dominance in the control point. Be aggressive. Clear it from defenders.
In practice, however, the capture happens like this: attackers hide from defenders and wait for the point to be "captured." It doesn't look much like dominance.
Solution: capture progress triggered not by a king-of-the-hill mini-game but when at least one attacker located is in the main tent. He will be an easy target for defenders, but then attackers will have an incentive to seek defenders. And there will be fewer solo captures of control points, which encourages teamwork.

[grim mauve]

Would be cool to have the ability to skip the night by sleeping in the new combat ops mission

[hearty whale]

servers overall feel pretty stable this update but vc and driving feel so fucked

whenever i drive now my car teleports all over the place

[cobalt agate]

I can confirm the radios and proximity are broken and were during the experimental branch too but for rubber banding/desync do you check the number (ping) by the server before you join?

[foggy wyvern]

exposure compensation seems a bit wonky after 1.1

[cobalt agate]

wonky as in overexposed? I look through a door frame and have to step out before I can see otherwise I have to deal with the full concentrated power of the sun

[slim jackal]

IDK why so many game devs try to make such stuff work like a photocamera

[opal raven]

Right? We're supposed to be stimulating human eyesight

[ornate shard]

Yeah some adjustement is needed:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025131938207498422/1213159638107820133/image.png?ex=6606eaf5&is=65f475f5&hm=3373ac9044d16e87cea4a43501888faac5b1a5ab25791149975ec7a539c050b5&

[foggy wyvern]

human eyesight has exposure compensation, reforger does not have hdr so it does its best and over/underexposes sometimes, but now in 1.1 it's a bit worse

[stray frost]

Why do the bipods on RPKs (and I assume other guns) undeploy when I take it off my back? I could kind of get them being folded back when I put it on my back but it's weird that it refolds when I re-equip it.

Also, sniped this guy on an MG and he went down and then just stood there while unconscious... until later when he apparently woke up and started shooting again. Pretty sure I shot him while he was standing there too and the bullets didnt do anything.

[modern wind]

For some reason, this happen with almost every scope but not with the ARTII

[foggy wyvern]

its about average brightness of the scene I think

[ornate shard]

Yeah because that scope has a thinner ring and its not black.

[ornate shard]

A few times on 1.1 single player I swear I shot at an AI and it did not register. Havent tested thoroughly though.

[olive trail]

The screen fov changing when we ads with a scope makes the pip less impressive.

[foggy wyvern]

well in vanilla the pasgt vest tanks 5.56 shots at close range

not infinitely, but it does

[ornate shard]

I guess this is done for balance purposes?
It is NIJ IIIA rated in the game but irl it was probably a bit lower than that.
But the problem is that in the game the armor rating just does a fixed damage reduction I think.

[stray frost]

I think this may have been more of a the animation didn't match the simulation kind of thing. Or at least that was my theory. There were a few times guys were standing still today that I swear they should have died but maybe not

[foggy wyvern]

IIIA shouldnt stop 5.56, it also should never stop 12.7 from 5 meters

dis is why I made more damage mod

[olive trail]

who among us can't take a 50cal to the lung and walk it off

[stray frost]

I can! ... if you threw it at me

[foggy wyvern]

I might be wrong but I think it indeed just subtracts armor protection value number from damage, not sure if it has actual penetration values being computed

[olive trail]

I remember reading here that damage is tied to pen, so the more the bullet pen, the more damage it should deals.

[foggy wyvern]

well I hope I'm wrong

[ornate shard]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Character_Gear_Creation/Vest/Prefab_Configuration#Theory

[foggy wyvern]

ok so no penetration?

colliders of clothing can have materials but I am not sure if they actually are used to compute penetration

[ornate shard]

Colliders are used for plates, but for soft armor like PASGT it is purely that flat damage reduction on the hitzone

I struggled with this for quite a while before I actually read the wiki

So yeah for realism sake the PASGT should not give any damage reduction to rifle rounds like 5.56.
I hope BI can implement a smarter system than a flat damage reduction.

[foggy wyvern]

yea ok so thats probably why more damage mod works, since all it does is increases base damage and it passes through those vests more

[ornate shard]

It really should be changed so that it takes penetration values into account.
So that pistol rounds dont deal any damage except for bruises and maybe knock you out and rifle rounds straight through dealing full damage.

Right now you can also shoot pistols at the helmets without the character even noticing it.

[foggy wyvern]

I did bump up the unconsciousness factors so hits that dont cause damage put you to sleep faster

but still with 9mm its like 5 rounds or something even with damage boost

[frosty gulch]

background zooming part right, I heard that Reforger does not support multiple different LODs on screen or idk how to describe it, so they zoom everything a bit so that out side of the scope and inside of the scope use the same LODs. This one is a bit hard to describe xD But Im sure someone can do it better

"different LOD choice at different areas of screen"

IMOP it should look something like this:

[foggy wyvern]

pip optics use a separate camera so it should do LODs separately

[frosty gulch]

This is what Ive heard from the dev himself when I talked to him about this PIP scope "idea" on this image

[frosty gulch]

"we don't support different LOD choice at different areas of screen yet"... You can make it as on image but it will look ugly

[foggy wyvern]

pip is separate render though, like a separate screen

[frosty gulch]

"It needs to be zoomed in in Reforger due to LODs
Main camera determines LODs for PIP"

[foggy wyvern]

oh ok weird, I thought render targets had LOD settings, does it mean they dont work?

[frosty gulch]

🤷‍♂️ What I think I understood was that engine is not yet capable of recreating my image above "concept" or what ever u wanna call it.

[foggy wyvern]

I guess thats why my long distance sniping is focused on hitting floating pants

[obtuse fjord]

Please open a proper ticket on the feedback tracker.
Thank you.

[real dome]

im wondering when will the ballistics be fixed that nirozz mentioned

[obtuse fjord]

Can't tell. But is there a ticket for it?!?

[real dome]

no

[obtuse fjord]

When there is an issue it always is the best to open a ticket!
Yes, we are monitoring the channels but things can fall through.
Hence, if you want to make sure that something is looked into, ticket it is.

[foggy wyvern]

What about a bug bounty program

[real dome]

it was mentioned on the discord a while ago through a conversation, (the ballistic thingy)

[obtuse fjord]

Find a bug - receive a bug?
I bet we can find a supplier of grasshoppers to send them out to you guys

[olive trail]

then we will get the fourth plague of egypt if all were reported.

[obtuse fjord]

So no bounty. Gotcha

[olive trail]

I will work in exchange of hummus.

[real dome]

1 bit

[obtuse fjord]

How about you provide tickets and we consider providing fixes?

[olive trail]

hummus or no deal

[ornate shard]

How about you provide fixes and we consider providing tickets?

[obtuse fjord]

That's not how Mafia works though

[ornate shard]

I am sorry don

[obtuse fjord]

At this point in time we can neither confirm nor deny if there will be a bug bounty program with hummus rewards.

[marble kindle]

Report enough bugs and you get the golden soldier skin ingame

[real dome]

i put a feedback tracket and it was set as waiting for internal testing and then no response even if it was fixed. so it would be nice to know that a bug has been fixed that you filed a bug feedback for

[ornate shard]

I have made a mod that makes it work like this and I have not noticed anything wrong with LODs.

[obtuse fjord]

If it would be up to me there would be steam achievements for things like reporting bugs or what not.
But it ain't up to me 🤷‍♂️

[real dome]

masterbugger

[ornate shard]

Yeah wait isnt there a feedback button ingame as well?

[frosty gulch]

idk man... Would love to try the mod tho

[ornate shard]

I could make it public then. Didnt know people want this.

[frosty gulch]

yeah ofc, it would be amazing

[obtuse fjord]

Players like achievements, statistics and what not. Everything to tell others that they are better than them.
Could be a nice incentive.

[frosty gulch]

Let me know if you publish it...

[real dome]

50 bugs reported = no hitreg issues for you

[obtuse fjord]

Additional pro for you guys creating tickets, I get more work.
So open more tickets, especially if you don't like me!

[ornate shard]

You dont know what you are asking for...

Because I've got tickets for you alright

[obtuse fjord]

Only legit tickets count though.
Non-legit ones don't reach my desk.

[obtuse fjord]

Bring it on then!

[ornate shard]

Who decides if it is legit or not?

The Mafia?

[obtuse fjord]

Among other people, yes.

[ornate shard]

But are you asking for clear bugs in current systems, improvements to current systems or ideas for new features?
Or all of the above?

[obtuse fjord]

Most important are clear bugs as they potentially (can) have quite a negative impact on the overall gameplay experience of the players.

And of course it's always better if things are found on experimental because then there is a chance that they might get fixed before stable release.

[ornate shard]

Got it.
A lot of the bugs still present in the current stable version were reported here during the experimental but I guess not in the tracker so they were missed.

[obtuse fjord]

In some cases it could also be that they simply could not be fixed within time even if a ticket exists.
But yes, problems falling through the cracks because no ticket certainly can be the case.

[ornate shard]

Have you tried PIPCQB? It is a better version of my mod and made by one of the devs.
It should be like that in vanilla imo.

[frosty gulch]

I did, I talked to him about this that I mentioned above, its a great mod, but I would still love to have a scope without background zoom

IMOP it would be nice to have it like set up PIPCQB + when zooming in, the background wouldnt zoom in

[frosty gulch]

so PIPCQB + something like on my image, when you zoom in

[whole estuary]

about the last part: preventing server hopping should only be against people who got banned by the system, not kicked by players then. currently, too many people get randomly kicked and grouping them together with actual griefers is not a good approach.

[simple kindle]

At some point will Arma Reforger integrate (i dont even know how to describe it) with steam (?) so we can have that you can later check in the tab "who I played with".
Sometimes it's nice to play with a new people and you would like to contact with them, and this would make it easier.

[brisk brook]

I think that already works

[simple kindle]

nope, i checked, and there is not even registered i played this game with anyone, unless there is some settings on steam itself to enable it

[brisk brook]

Hmm dunno will check, but i think it worked.

Also joining on friend etc

[simple kindle]

iam talking about this

its register with all players you played with on server online, not just your friends

[ornate shard]

Yeah my mod just restricts you from zooming in with the scope to the same maximum zoom level as with iron sights. And it doesnt do the fancy sensitivity changes that PIPCQB does.

[brisk brook]

Check in steam -> View -> Players. Like on the UI of the steam aplication

[simple kindle]

will do when i get home, thanks

[hearty whale]

things that should be changed on the new update imo
-first off ik this isnt a feature but the driving and especially the vc lag need to be fixed thats the most important thing imo
-deployable radios be locked to squads of atleast 2 people and increase the ticket amount a tiny bit (12 or 14 smt like that) or make it so the ticket amount changes by how many people you have in your squad when you dpeloy it for example 1 man squad is 4 2 man is 6 etc etc)
-up the supply regen in main base to 15 or higher

[ornate shard]

With vc lag you mean voice chat aka VON?

[hearty whale]

i have no idea what von means but yea probably

[ornate shard]

It is Arma speak for voice chat, Voice Over Network

So the chipmunk voices and choppy sound is still a thing in 1.1?

[hearty whale]

that too but a new issue appeared where peoples mics will just become permanently broken and theres no real way to fix it

[ornate shard]

Oh crap

[hearty whale]

yea they really need to quickly try and fix it its reaaaallly bad sometimes

[frosty gulch]

strange camera bug when prone in a tight space

first person by the way

[rare pilot]

I hate this new vehicle system so much

I have to override the EditorModeBuild so many times just to add things to the Conflict lists that they literally stopped populating the Buy menu with my overridden vehicles

This is such a huge step backwards for the game, and I dont know who thought it was a good decision

[pure gyro]

Yeah when I first saw it used the build menu I though it was kinda cool but then I thought wow this is hacky.. I feel like maybe the LAV was too big to fit in the middle of their prefab or something related internally so instead of make a new depot or tackle to problem head on they just reused some other system that was updated recently and did this to both spawners(remember when we all first tried adding Abrams to the spawner and it was too big to spawn?)

I miss the config list 🤌 small step backwards as far as modding goes imho but who knows maybe there was something really wrong with the other spawner

[rare pilot]

Any rank above Sargeant is broken

The tags for it dont even work
Meaning people can have MBTs and Attack Helicopters at the same rank as BTRs in Conflict

[pure gyro]

Also I dont know if it's been talked about here again but the ammo bag is still messed up. After a while it just stops properly detecting supplies in the back of the vehicle, putting the bag inside the vehicle, inside my inventory, or on the ground and accessing it like that had no effect. So I tried moving the supplies out of the car/UAZ in vicinity to make it recognise the supplies nearby and at some point on the third or so time of doing this I ended up with an extra 100 supply on the ground. (the ammo bag seen it but at that point I was consistently duping supplies and making basically infinite minefields at my leisure.

Before anyone says some stupid shit about mods this was all done in vanilla official servers

[pure gyro]

Coincidentally the modded server I was on last night disconnected 20 some odd people when I accessed the large depot as a major (including me)

[tribal edge]

Reconnecting after a crash or disconnection erases the saved loadout. I'd much rather be rid of all bugs causing the crashes and disconnections but until then, a fix for this would be much welcome.

[foggy wyvern]

For the time being you can try the gm persistent loadout mod, if you play gm. Alternatively the loadout editor mod has 5 saved loadout slots.

[vivid night]

could we get the ability to store a small amount of supply in the emplacements rather than running back and forth to our vehicles (that eventually disappear) to replenish?

or some kind of semi permanent ability to store ammo nearby without it disappearing ~40 supply?

[fair dove]

oh you mean like the ammo kit?

[vivid night]

more to compliment the ammo kit

[visual walrus]

It would be wonderful to my old eyes if the grid coordinates on the map were at least double the size they currently are. It’s difficult to read those tiny numbers on the edge of the screen from any sort of minor distance (couch to TV, for example).

Also, anyone know of any range finding binos by chance? Briefly looked in the mod hub without luck, but I know tons of things are hidden within mods, so thought I’d ask.

[shell quiver]

RHS Status Quo has range finding binos, combine with the ussr USA RHS mod it’ll be in the arsenal box in all modes

[foggy wyvern]

is that the mod that duplicates some items in the arsenals?

[tribal edge]

I've just noticed that this is actually a part of the changelog but it doesn't work:

"Added: Saved loadouts are now available after a disconnection or a kick"

[cobalt agate]

it is you just need to get back on fast

[cobalt agate]

Also the game is obviously not needed to change in this way but the fact I can hear folks over the radio because the gunsounds are so soft is a bit odd, think Ashyl’s mod or Insurgency sandstorm or even gopro footage. Apparently they did that but it doesn’t sound all that much like guns imo.

[noble beacon]

Yesterday the official server on Arland crashed in the midst of the battle.

I haven't seen this for a long time.

It was very painful ..

[simple kindle]

it doesnt work for me too, (official servers) and when i got kicked by server i came back within maybe 30sec in the same place with my character but my saved loadout was gone after death

[tribal edge]

Character equipment and location get restored correctly but the saved loadout gets erased; you seem to be confusing the two.

[woeful cave]

How do i post a server in the server group🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[visual walrus]

Awesome, I’ll give that a try. Thank you.

[visual walrus]

Like randomly duplicated items that aren’t different than the original? That would be annoying.

[foggy wyvern]

well some items that exist in US arsenal are in the RHS arsenals, like bandages, so by adding RHS arsenal on top of the US one you get duplicate bandage entries

[visual walrus]

Ahh, I see what you mean now.

[noble beacon]

And now my game just crashed...

And another crash...

More players kicked

From 13245681 (EU-FFM)

[languid torrent]

Something that I’ve noticed is that when looking through an optic (at least the base game ones) it gets super bright making it difficult to see. Next time I get on I will grab a screenshot to provide if anyone in BI is interested to see what I mean, unless of course this has already been brought up lol

[ornate shard]

Yeah this has been discussed quite a bit already 😅
#reforger_feedback message

[foggy wyvern]

everon has a bunch of nice places, I hope one day we can get a geocaching game mode that takes us to explore the island, maybe with some behind the scenes dev commentary

[real dome]

regatcher

[spare linden]

The networking seems way more stable now. Are we getting 64 player servers back soon?

[languid torrent]

Ooh, that’s not a bad idea. Also giving hints as to where Easter Eggs might be

[hearty whale]

we have 128 p servers

[spare linden]

Sorry I meant official servers

[simple kindle]

key word "seems", for me nothing really changed, maybe some fps boost but the stable is as stable it was with 32 players

yesterday we had in one base with over 3000 supplies, then it was attacked by enemy, all people with heavy loadout (over 200 supplies) spawned and drain base supplies to 100 and guess what, we lost that base, instead 4 spawn for 50 we had one "rambo guy" spawn just to die in the next few seconds (enemy was good at waiting for "temp immortality" to expire)

but maybe thats for the better, casual gamers will just give up on game and only those who know that only through cooperation and communication can win this game

[real dome]

Yeah

[ripe sigil]

https://youtu.be/29XLojlxPEw?t=401

☝️ Ai has some issues when shooting over cover... maybe it is checking for obstructions above its weapon barrel when it should be checking at weapon barrel height? So if there is an obstruction when crouching it should stand in order to fire

[rare pilot]

Found a confirmed fix

[modern wind]

Anyone more have problems loading the a saved mission into a server?

Every time I tried to load one, the client crash, even vanilla

[lusty flax]

Yep, on Xbox it dashboards you

[modern wind]

amazing 1.1

[sharp urchin]

This looks like a private server mod -will it ever be publicly released?

[ripe sigil]

Not my server

[sharp urchin]

ooooKkkk -you posted the video- figured you might have some knowledge of it

[ripe sigil]

Nope, the video was just to show the Ai issue I mentioned, never claimed anything but pointing that particular issue out

[sharp urchin]

Cool- sorry i asked

[unborn osprey]

I love the new AI

[unborn osprey]

Playing conflict or whatever it's called and it's actually a challenge to take the point alone now. Played for about 30 minutes and maybe had a 2/1 KDR, which is way way lower than it used to be. Great job guys! Now all we need are player controlled squads and AI driving vics

[ripe sigil]

No worries, sorry if I seemed rude it is just that you assumed that just because I linked to the video I had to be related to the server for some reason and that threw me off

[cobalt agate]

Unable to close the map or open the pause menu when map is opened during tutorial sections end (Easily replicatable on xbox)

[wintry barn]

The RPG shrapnel needs to be reworked really baddly, currently killing btr's with an rpg is basically impossible. Youre an unkillable god unless someone has a 50 cal or shoots on m60 in the side.
THE ONLY way to kill a btr using a rpg is to shoot into a fence or house, and have the RPG shrapnel penetrate the wall of the house or fence and then completely demolish the btr

Ive been driving the btr for a long time now and the only way ive gotten killed is either a cheeky 50 cal jeep or and rpg that has hit a fence and destroyed the engine, wheels, and killed the crew inside

[real dome]

#reforger_discussion message

[main tide]

I never even tried that in reforger. Id never think that shooting an object thats in the way of my of my target would make the heat warhead more effective. It's funny how this is inversion of reality. "cages" started being installed around lightly armored vehicles which is a good counter against rpg type threats.

[wintry barn]

if they add cope cages to reforger its so over

[real dome]

There was none in the 80s

[wintry barn]

and the russians place steel plates on the sides of their tanks

maybe we wont have any cope cages but we can MAKE som cages

yeah i just tested it in game master and it indeed is not desync, but the RPG's is best used when fired at a wooden pillar, fence or human

The object must be preferebly 10-20 meters away from your target and when the RPG warhead hits the object it will release an extremely dangerous burst of M829A4 armor-piercing shells that will penetrate anything that is foolish enough to stand in its way up to 50 meters.

turns out not even concrete walls can stop the devastating effects of an RPG-7V1. It can only be assumed that bohemia has access to secret soviet files where the RPG war head was an air burst.

[stray frost]

That was possible. Pretty sure the Somali militias did that during Gothic Serpent/Restore Hope to help hit helicopters.

[celest beacon]

Whoever's idea it was to put a 7 minute join ban after being vote kicked is a fucking dumbass, i'm joining official bohemia interactive community combat ops servers and getting vote kicked immediately, i haven't been in the server 5mins how the fuck am i supposed to learn to play or make friends who want to play this game? i cant even get out of the spawn house with out being kicked.

[errant leaf]

actually the community pleaded for this feature to be fixed, but like everything else it can be exploited, my advice would be to learn to play through singleplayer GM or join conflict for the start

[hearty whale]

yea the rpg is incredibly inconsistent

[hearty whale]

the issue with the current system is that at low playercounts people will get kicked incredibly easily while at high playercounts its pretty good imo

[vital grail]

Not sure it's an rpg problem. Maybe it's a vehicles problem.
But yes, rpgs are very weak. You complaining about BTR, but the thing is even Humvee can take a few shots before it will be caught by fire.

[wintry barn]

Well this the thing, the humvee shouldn't take a Few RPGs before it catches fire.

Direct engine hits should, well fuck it up to put it lightly

[errant leaf]

it has been narrowed down to an rpg problem because the fragments from the HEAT explosions are handled similar to bullets, given there are multiple created at once and not even a regular weapons bullet can be registered in multiplayer this is to be expected

[wintry barn]

Also shooting the roof of vehicles also makes the catch fire which I don't really like :(
I feel like the 50 cal is a bit overpowered because it's more maneuverable and it can destroy vehicles in a few shots to the body and not any vital components

[errant leaf]

but hopefully we get hitreg fix that remedies all of these issues, we desperately need it

[wintry barn]

Amen

[errant leaf]

really? i am going to test this now 😆

[wintry barn]

Yeah go for it dude

[errant leaf]

while i dont expect war thunder level destruction that really shouldnt be right

[wintry barn]

Looks like they used a health bar system for the hull

[errant leaf]

just like A3 😢

[wintry barn]

YES, if they don't want to add a arma 3 styled ouchie circle then they have to do something more advanced. Which I'm all for as long as it works

[vital grail]

Squad 44 system should be sufficient

[wintry barn]

By ouchie circle I mean the radius from the explosion where you either get hurt or die

Also does anyone know if the shapnel goes all ways in reforrger or is it only in the players direction like in Arma 3 with the ACE mod?

[cobalt agate]

it’s currently a radius as opposed to actual simulated shrapnel, unless it has been updated.

[real dome]

Before one hit would knock a btr out its after they added the rpg shrapnel thingy that i guess networking issues or whatever came and it bugs out

[vital grail]

Yes, we need this so much. Currently hitreg is horrible. Especially with fast moving objects.

[real dome]

But let see how things go after the fix that devs mentioned comes

[wintry barn]

Cheers

So the conclusion is that the explosives and shrapnel in reforger need a massive rework

[real dome]

Whcih devs said they are fixing it

[wintry barn]

Yay

[vital grail]

BI mentioned hitreg fixes?

[wintry barn]

That's a desync issue isn't it?

[cobalt agate]

It is possible in engine, look at Ashyl’s shrapnel mod

[real dome]

Fix coming for rpgs

[errant leaf]

i dumped a whole mag into one person, it was to his pasgt vest to be fair, but he ate them all up turned around and headshot me

[errant leaf]

devs mentioned fix? where?

[real dome]

Here

[wintry barn]

Hope so.. but what about the healbars on vehicles, currently every vehicle goes off a healtbar system which allows 50 cals to shread any vehicle no matter where you shoot them

[cobalt agate]

What goofy server’s are you playing on where it’s that bad? Max pop or high ping because thus far I haven’t experienced that (Not to say it isn’t a thing, the Arma games aren’t known for being perfectly polished)

[real dome]

A3 had health and components, same here

[wintry barn]

Reforger is notoriously known for having desync and hit reg issues if that's what you mean

[real dome]

I mean look at other games and same stuff happens,

[errant leaf]

i do wish that shooting a roof of a vehicle didnt degrade the whole health however, it just kills the realisim and in comparison to the advanced vehicle mechanics already present is quite lackluster

[wintry barn]

Yeah but this is arma. I don't really want my Jeep to explode because a single 50 cal round hit the roof
@real dome

[real dome]

And it doesnt

[wintry barn]

Want me to hop on and send a clip? I know it's not a single round but still

[vital grail]

Yup, happens with me all the time. Especially after 1.1 release

[real dome]

It takes a few rounds to set the vehicles on fire and where you shoot changes how fast it goes on fire

Its a 50 cal round vs a few mm of steel or some kind of fabric

[errant leaf]

they should really stick to the modules and just ditch the combined health bar

[cobalt agate]

they do with tires at the very least, right? tire health is not overall vehicle health or is it?

[wintry barn]

Yeah but last time I shot a door with a 50 it didn't make the car catch on fire

[real dome]

Lets see how they do once they add more shit in the game.

[wintry barn]

Lmao

[errant leaf]

fair, it isnt a glaring issue atm, but i do expect more in future and especially for A4

[wintry barn]

Fully destructible wheels!!!???

[real dome]

Yeah but it makes a big hole and more bullets more holes and more damage

[errant leaf]

a damaged wheel model would be nice

[real dome]

Although its like, gta 5 came 10 years ago and it has a great part system on vehicles, why cant there be a similar one on arma reforger or 4

[cobalt agate]

Budget?

[errant leaf]

performance budget moreso

[wintry barn]

Mods 😔

[errant leaf]

but if there were more dynamic mesh warping with collisions and wheels that would be amazing! i mean it was in OFP to an extent...

[real dome]

I think the rpg issues came after mine or medical update, but i could survive like 7-8 rpgs and nothing would happen, 40mm do more damage to crew so using that is better

[wintry barn]

Mesh warping is a bit too far. Maybe slight but we have an example of GTA 4+5 of how silly things can get. Having proper wheel damage textures is reasonable

[errant leaf]

as long as it is constrained properly and not fully procedural it wouldnt look too bad

[vital grail]

Oh, really. How many bullets you have fire in unconscious enemy, so you actually kill him? Or enemy trying to finish you up close. And you see how bullets just don't hit you.

[real dome]

Although in irl if you shoot a ture it makes a hole but doesnt just make the rubber dissapear from the wheel

[wintry barn]

I remember that, the 40mm could bet the front of the btr lol

[cobalt agate]

I still think Arma needs to step up the gun sounds, every Arma games from CWA to Reforger have really weak sounding guns. I want to feel the power of the round

[wintry barn]

But driving with one does

[real dome]

Tru

[cobalt agate]

I have to shoot like 3 times to knock them once to kill

[errant leaf]

true, but it does deflate it

[errant leaf]

really? i think reforger is literally the peak for gun sounds, I shit my pants whenever i am ambushed by FIA

[wintry barn]

I just shit my pants

Anyways we have another conclusion, the desync and hit reg on reforger is pretty horrible and needs some tweaking

[errant leaf]

the devs went as far as to animate suspension and steering so why not take that extra step in doing damage as well

[real dome]

Well im waiting for brdm 2 so i can hide in ditches and blow up stuff

[wintry barn]

Also I've been having a bunch of problems when playing on 120+ server where other people sound broken up and stuttery. While playing at 20 ping

[wintry barn]

Fr

[errant leaf]

dynamic mud accumulation on vehicles would also be cool along with some more particle effects

[wintry barn]

I like your thinking, and I'm sure it's not too hard.

[real dome]

Btw the suspension is not modeled in every vehicle, i believe they are/should update all the vehicle models at some point

Technically i think the russian medic car model is the newest model made thats in the game currently

[wintry barn]

Buhanka?

[real dome]

Its the medic car for rus

[wintry barn]

Oh

[real dome]

The transmission and everything spins there and is very high quality

[errant leaf]

ok, i just tested the jeep vs .50 cal thing, all it needed to set fire was 5 rounds to the canvas 💀

[wintry barn]

LMAO I KNOW

[errant leaf]

yeah they really outdid themselves, but if they added visible damage i would pay double price 😆

[vital grail]

Well, the guy who make one of the best sound mods for A3 currently working with BI on reforger.
I found AR sounds actually really good.
He also made a video about gun sounds in games.
https://youtu.be/5EQ0_pvuPY4?si=v888170DBldOsisP

[wintry barn]

they should add more shrapnel. ARMA 3 had a "damaged" texture for vehicles but that's because it's an old game. Reforger on the other hand went with no damaged textures so they should make it so bullets holes and shrapnel should stay on for longer. Both on vehicles, props, and people

[vital grail]

A lot of tweaking )

[wintry barn]

And I'd love a new shrapnel texture for shrapnel damage. If you look at videos from war zones you can tell whether they were engaged by small arms or explosive munitions like artillery or frags

[errant leaf]

even then the "damaged" texture was only for certain vehicles

[wintry barn]

Was it really? I'm just way too used to mods and most of them have some cool textures

[vital grail]

How many rpgs?

[errant leaf]

only a portion of A3 vanilla had dammaged textures 😆

[wintry barn]

depends 1-7

[errant leaf]

ooh, i will test this an shoot in exact same place!

[wintry barn]

Whether it does something is up to the gods

[errant leaf]

it took 1 RPG to same spot, which is completely fair tbh given the fragmentation

[wintry barn]

Where'd you hit it

[errant leaf]

exact same spot top corner of window where the canvas joins

[wintry barn]

Also was it in a perfect environment meaning 0 AI

[errant leaf]

yes

[wintry barn]

I've seen cars survive more direct hits

[errant leaf]

you can see where i hit it

[olive trail]

online =/= offline

[wintry barn]

That's true

[vital grail]

Same

[wintry barn]

I remember seeing a video of a car taking an rpg to the roof and the rest of the occupants being finished off by small arms, only for the insurgents to take the car and drive it away

[errant leaf]

the other day i was on local server, our humvee was directly hit to the front by FIA RPG, the round fragmented straight through the center of the car at my face as indicated by the decals, I didnt even have a scratch 😆

[wintry barn]

Reforger 👐🌈

[errant leaf]

although the hit i accomplished on the car i think would kill the driver and passenger but would probably not do massive damage to components given direction of blast

[wintry barn]

I complain about reforger a lot as I should because it's an unfinished fully released game BUT even in its current state its pretty fun

[vital grail]

Knowing BI attention to details, I think current vehicle damage system is temporary. I hope so

[foggy wyvern]

#reforger_experimental message

explosives in multiplayer sometimes deal damage 20 feet away

[errant leaf]

yeah reforger is quite amazing, i can poke my head out of turret and use binoculars, 10/10

[wintry barn]

Depends what the server decided to do. The shrapnel from the rpg can kill you up to 50 meters away if not further from my experience. And sometimes direct hits won't do shit 😭

[magic hatch]

Definitely agree with this. I give Reforger a lot of slack since it just got out of beta only 4-5 months ago, and it’s come a super far way since it’s “game preview”/beta release

[wintry barn]

Pretty sure that's a thing you can't do 😭
I wonder how long we'll have to wait until we can use binoculars and law's out of the humvee

[real dome]

No person regards this game released, its still ea in my mind and always will be

[oak flare]

RPG is less reliable than it used to be; in older versions you could rely on it to do nothing. Now there is the confusing chance that it might actually work and destroy something.

[wintry barn]

Yeah something that's behind the intended target

[errant leaf]

a few months ago some guy landed a HE round right at my legs, it was such a good shot and i saw the round as it was flying toward me, it exploded and did nothing, i then proceeded to stand there and let him gun me down because he really deserved that kill 😆

[wintry barn]

Brings a whole new meaning to "always know what's behind the thing you're shooting"

[magic hatch]

Well that’s what I mean. But I have high hopes for its feature, although sometimes they screw things up, everyone makes mistakes. But for the sake of 10 steps forward, and one or two back that eventually get fixed/corrected with community feedback we have a good road ahead

[wintry barn]

And sometimes they slip and slide down the hill

[real dome]

Yeah and then game is gonna die after a4, im just hoping for the ogs to come back but first we need server that is vanilla and more than 32

[errant leaf]

the gradient of that hill being the pain in the ass network issues

[wintry barn]

I just don't get why they don't fix the bugs that are very obvious in experimental before they release the update fully. There's a bunch of bugs that came from the experimental build

[magic hatch]

I mean of course it will, it’s only a test game after all. But this more than get enough gets me excited for what we’ll see in A4

[wintry barn]

Well it won't as long as they keep A4 away from consoles 👍

[magic hatch]

Definitely

[wintry barn]

I ain't letting arma go out with a console 👴

[real dome]

Which they may not do, but i kinda want a pc only game

If you wanna be a serious player, pc is what you need

[errant leaf]

they will probably drop the price quite a bit and it will serve as a cheaper entry level arma game that people can use to dip their toe into milsim genre without it costing them an arm and a leg

[wintry barn]

true true

[errant leaf]

as much as i love the XBOX community and how much fun with those players i have had, i deep down agree, it seems like a limiting factor

[wintry barn]

DUDE can you imagine what arms 4 will look like. I can already see the jets and helicopters flying over trees while a huge battle is going down a few klicks out. God I can't wait

[wintry barn]

Realest thing you've said

[real dome]

Xbox can be fun def but i just dont feel all of em, more mone and players but too much limiting factors id rather enjoy with 100 pc players than 200 xbox

[magic hatch]

I guess, but it just seems like an extreme way of gate keeping & for what purpose you know what I mean? It helps expands the audience a bunch & gives BI a lot more money & support to continue in their endeavors so they can better optimize the game for realistically everyone. I get where y’all are coming from though

[errant leaf]

as long as those said trees are affected by flyover turbulence from the jets then yes it will be rather dope

[vital grail]

Because of steam sale. 1.1 was definitely not ready for release

[magic hatch]

(To poor to afford a PC rn)

[wintry barn]

Really? that's a wack reason

[real dome]

Pc you can play all vr, no monthly subscriptions, you can download all kinds of apps, more freedoms

Pc is freedom, xbox is entry in to something but wont allow you to fully go into gaming which pc does

[wintry barn]

Sell some cola and you'll have more than enough for a PC in less than a week 😉

But it wasn't me who told you

[magic hatch]

I’m almost sure they will, wind & a bunch of other factors already affect trees & a bunch of other stuff

[vital grail]

But we hit a new post release player count record. +70% from previous top players count

[wintry barn]

Fair point

[errant leaf]

oh also i just found something quite interesting in game files, these are particle effects for supressors, now unless i am mistaken wasnt the PBS-4 intended to be used with AKS-74U? could a russian gun expert enlighten me on this?

[real dome]

yea

[errant leaf]

so could this possibly mean AKS-74U the weapon so dearly requested could eventually be in game despite not being on roadmap?

[vital grail]

maybe, maybe not )

[foggy wyvern]

its weird, I made a weapon that fires explosive shells and I have to shoot at people's feet to damage them since direct hits don't do anything, I have to go quake 3 arena on them

[brisk brook]

Btw, i recently played hidden and dangerous 2. And i can say it really reminds me of reforger, driving, gunplay, movement, sometimes dumb enemy AI.

It has shittier graphics but vehicle parts fall off and u can command AI.

What i really loved tho, is when you climb over obstacle like tall wall, and drop on the other side, it really makes you feel the weight of the character slamming down.
Not like that featherlight landing in reforger

[magic hatch]

I hope at some point in Reforger we get an improved vaulting system, ex. Being able to sit next to a wall & boost someone over by pushing your foot. You can sort of replicate this in old video game fashion where one player lies against the wall to give other players enough height to vault

[wintry barn]

I don't mind shitty graphics I'm gonna try it out

[wintry barn]

I'd love some wire cutters... And everything that you've mentioned.

[cobalt agate]

Back to what I was saying before now that I am back let me correct what I said, the guns sounds are great they are just lacking punch, guns are loud.

Your character’s clearly aren’t wearing plugs so you’d imagine the guns to have a louder pop.

If you’re on either side of the AK74 due to it’s muscle break system you should have the same audio effect as when an explosion occurs nearby (muffled hearing with ears ringing)

[magic hatch]

Wire cutters would be awesome. I’d say something like a “breaching torch”, like what Breakpoint has, but that’s more of modern thing, atleast something so compact. So wire cutters fit the setting 100% more

[wintry barn]

Agreed, the guns need a bit more "bang" to them

Also I wonder if they'll do something with the recoil in the future. And the moment it's.. something. It's not bad (on most guns) and I see why it would be so simple but a bit more dynamic recoil would be cool. Also would extend fire fights

I'm not saying that they should add squad type of recoil but I think y'all get the idea

[cobalt agate]

Most firefights last 15 minutes at most irl but yeah a bit more recoil if ai were effected by it too, at the moment if you add a recoil mod you get absolutely obliterated by T800 FIA

[wintry barn]

Yeah but the recoil mod is also a bit over exaggerated at least the last time i played. Also having the ai get affected by recoil would also be neat though I believe that's hard to do. Another thing that would extend firefights would be a stamina rework

So many reworks lmao but yk. You can bring two M60 with you with several magazines, mines, grenades and a whole ass backpack and still jog for miles with barely any drawbacks

[cobalt agate]

Yes AI being effected by recoil is hard but yes a stamina rework would be better because ai also have stamia, right?

[pure gyro]

Supply pack still often stops detecting supplies and when it gets in this state any time supplies decay near the pack it goes into the negatives. (Official servers) The wrench that came with the humvee still detects supplies fine

[brisk brook]

Go figure h&d2 has wirecutters too. Tho u need to get widescreen fix since its for 4:3screens

[olive trail]

I like the new tarkov recoil

[wintry barn]

Lol fair point, but with those two things it would make people approach things more carefully

[cobalt agate]

As it should, supression system for players and a stamina rework.

[wintry barn]

I think they already said that they won't be adding surpresion, but the AI could react more frantically when being shot

[pure gyro]

Nevermind this is fine lol drove to the enemy base, loaded 24 mines drove back to the same spot and now it is linked to that bases supply woo

[wintry barn]

The AI as it is now is pretty neat though I'll give them that

[viral pecan]

When server restarts then most of the time you will stay stuck on arma logo screen

game literally freezes up

[misty lantern]

This is the same company had Arma 3 declared '1.0' despite the lack of a SP campaign so that it could be out a few days before GTA V...

[olive trail]

wasn't gta cosnole only for over a year though

[stray frost]

They also had Reforger hit 1.0 well before it was ready too... also probably for a steam sale

[brisk brook]

Anniversary sale

[misty lantern]

It wouldn't have been just computer games that Arma 3 was competing against for people's attention

[misty lantern]

Not so surprising considering the story Maruk told of their previous attempt at console Arma (emphasis mine):

Bohemia, in its naivety, bit off far more than its small team could chew. It believed it could make an Xbox version of Operation Flashpoint, a sequel to Operation Flashpoint and continue supporting Operation Flashpoint all at the same time. It believed the Xbox conversion, Operation Flashpoint: Elite, would take nine months, but it took four years because the team struggled with the console's lack of RAM. It launched at the same time Microsoft launched the Xbox 360 and fell on deaf ears. "We spent four years working on an old game," Španel rues. "It was a big loss for the company."

[olive trail]

it's the attention of two different customers. The people who owns both console, and pc are not so many that it will require them to compete with gta

[misty lantern]

Maruk may have believed otherwise... then again, according to DnA he had already wanted Arma 3 out before the end of 2013 (which DnA determined could only be met via dropping the vaunted 'no DRM' independence in favor of Steamworks)

[weak tundra]

Any chance support for FSR 3 or even 2 could be brought to the game in a future update?

[broken scaffold]

Something I have noticed, it seems that lighting doesn't like aiming, freaks out and goes super bright like the transition from indoors to outdoors when you aim, as seen here

Makes aiming a pain, especially with scoped weapons

[burnt plinth]

Yes, I hope this is on the to do list as it feels really overdone.. the brightness effect is way overdone. Hurts my eyes

[hard echo]

Oh god, i was sure i had messed up my monitor settings but now i see that is not the case🤣

[foggy wyvern]

Exposure Overcompensation

[broken scaffold]

Thank you word-knower

[broken scaffold]

So much about the inventory system is just perplexing

[ornate marlin]

as in it can't fit the bag or it just doesn't work when transfered from the arsenal?

I just can't read

[brisk brook]

😦

Acooma fix game please

[wintry barn]

Lol

[spare matrix]

specially when you realise Bi made Dayz.... call those guys up to make a decent inventory for the game

[pure gyro]

Ah yes, the good old [OFFICIAL] Conflict Full - 13585695 (US-MI) experience
(posted to wrong thread originally lol)

[errant leaf]

i love that game

[errant leaf]

wirecutters would just be another cool possibility for engineer class

[broken scaffold]

I don't think Reforger should have classes

[olive trail]

It already does

Everyone is playing the MG gunner-sniper-medic-AT class.

[ornate shard]

It 100% should imo.

[errant leaf]

oh i agree, i just meant it would be good for engineer type gameplay, although some kit restriction would be nice

[broken scaffold]

Honestly I think you could do it more organically by just messing with weight and stamina, if you bring an M60 and M16 with GL and 20 bandages you should be significantly slower

[errant leaf]

yeah exactly what is was thinking! rank could also come into play with more specialised items

[ornate shard]

The #1 reason I don't play Conflict is how unorganized it is and a big reason for that is the lack of roles in a squad imo.
Thank god Reforger Lobby is a thing though so we can play like Arma is supposed to be played.

[broken scaffold]

I think you can get that all sorted fairly organically but being locked out of grabbing stuff because you aren't the right class feels very game-y in a way that doesn't fit arma imo

[ornate shard]

No that it is exactly what the series has always been. You select a role that has a certain kit and certain abilities in the slotting screen and then go play.
I have no idea why they ditched this tradition with Reforger.
Of course I am not saying you should not be able to pick up weapons from bodies etc. like in tactical shooters though.

I feel being able to grab whatever you want from the base feels very game-y when trying to be a realistic military sandbox.

[broken scaffold]

Oh if you mean more like the different classes that are already in but not implemented into conflict then yeah I getcha

I'm coming from a battlefield perspective of where you cannot have medical equipment and say an SMG

[ornate shard]

They only "battlefield" I have played is Project Reality so I draw my perspective from there 😄

[ornate shard]

And yeah I don't want this to be the default in Arma either. Yeah sure you can pick up and SMG from a dead enemy during an emergency but 99% of the time you should be carrying the standard issue rifle

[broken scaffold]

New arma update includes a sgt major who will shout at you for not having your rifle

But yeah also I was thinking in terms of the arsenal, because it'd be lame if you open it and half of it is just locked away from you

[olive trail]

You can always change your class, and get whatever you want.

[broken scaffold]

Nah that'd be a pain, because you'd either have like 30 classes because riflemen can't carry ammo for the M60 so you have to have a special assistant gunner class or you'd have a ton of reliance on the one guy who gets to bring a LAW

[olive trail]

even if there was classes, every soldier in a us squad will be able to carry a law, because that how it function irl too

[marble kindle]

I have to say though, while the loadout costs aren't a bad thing, it does sorta prevent playing your class at times. I have to spawn with cheap standard loadout or just drop my armor to not waste so many supplies just because I grabbed something better than an AK a lot of times. It feels almost selfish to grab something beter. No supply runner wants to run supplies just so 6 guys spawn and instantly drain everything, so you gotta wait for those supplies to slooowly regenerate - and then someone with a cheaper basic loadout spawns.

Unless I spawn at MOB, and drive across the entire map just to get owned by some guy who had better ping.

[cobalt agate]

I mean it wouldn’t be a problem if players didn’t drop their stuff on the ground (dropping gear in the arsenal box gives supplies)

if they weren’t so focused on barbie dress up as opposed to a working load out

DONT get me started on players with 100+ supply loadouts that keep dying and respawning, draining all the supplies.

I STILL THINK TUTORIAL SHOULD BE MANDATORY

“Hey soldier, before you can deploy into combat you must be trained so that you can improve your chances of survival” something like that.

[olive trail]

The way I would limit it is with weight

[oak flare]

Without functional mirrors revsersing is an issue in first person view. I suggest a reversing camera as a solution.
In some racing games, when you start reversing a vehicle, the camera switches to a camera on rear bumper or looking out rear window.
Maybe even the actual car you drive every day does similar; when reversing it shows a rear bumper cam on the console.
Functional mirrors would be better and more immersive, but I guess they are not a thing for performance reasons.

[tribal edge]

Mirrors aren't useful only for reversing so that wouldn't be a complete solution.

[oak flare]

yea, it's not ideal just better than what we have now.

[errant leaf]

Devs have addressed vehicle mirrors so don't loose hope, soon hopefully

[broken scaffold]

Oh wait really?

[sleek heart]

Has there been any discourse on the current state of the arsenal? Any Roadmap to improve? It's almost unusable for me on busy servers. Bacon Loadout Editor is 1000x better and works great

[foggy wyvern]

Hope you tried editing my block 2 in it!

[sleek heart]

Honestly with how many Block IIs there are, I'm not even sure anymore. One of my favorites is the M110 though

Big fan of 7.62x51mm

[sleek heart]

Hoping they incorporate your mod into the vanilla game tbh

Love playing dress up

[foggy wyvern]

Try it out. It's the only customizable weapon currently available and comes with the mod.

[sleek heart]

What do you mean by this? There are lots of guns I can add attachments to using your editor

Is your M4 different?

[foggy wyvern]

Yes. It has swappable rails, stocks, receiver colors etc

[sleek heart]

Oh that's sick, I'll have to try it out

Is your stuff open source?

[foggy wyvern]

No derivatives license, so you can use it just not modify it

[sleek heart]

I see I see, sometimes I think about getting into some of the mods and helping out if they're open... Going into software engineering has turned programming into a bit more of work than a hobby though!

Thanks for your work on the Arma platform, I see a whole lot of your stuff and like it

[noble beacon]

Right now EU-FFM official server with Conflict mission crashed...

So many server crashes on this version...

[hearty whale]

it shouldnt be like fixed classes as you would have in something like hell let loose but you shoulndt be able to do a full on meta everything class like you can now

the game should push you to play around specific roles without forcing you to play with the exact loadout the game wants you to play iwth

[hearty whale]

stability definitly took a hit this update lol

it sucks cause all the gameplay changes are very good but the stability issues just ruin it

[hearty whale]

right now you can just grab a grenade launcher machine gun and backpack with endless ammunition and you are set for literally every fight ever

which is a dumb way for the game to work imo

[white kernel]

I was just contemplating reinstalling after a few months away after getting fed up with this specific problem, along with running supplies halfway across a map to have someone then unload the truck and get the promotion points, or steal the supply truck etc etc etc etc. Looks like a lot of these core mechanic issues are here to stay. Hope they dont get included in arma 4 and is the reason why I wont be buying into 4 from day 1!!

For me at least, arma 3 modded with something like antistasi still provides a better total experience from a game mechanic perspective.

[noble beacon]

And another crash...

For long battle

[main tide]

you can still easily surpass 100 supplies without exceeding 40 kilograms of weight.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551465062339051521/1221628301840482405/image.png?ex=66134503&is=6600d003&hm=bfa5994182ea5044e9b01d48dfb15944c552b450d748db9f981af39cc8d49c77&

[brisk brook]

These are rookie numbers...

From my friend:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2413439189431990941/98075B8F7691E47C939B760E9D706547039879C1/

[main tide]

what was his loadout weigh ttho

[brisk brook]

as much morphine you can carry, probs not that much

[spare matrix]

Aren't we in a state were the game is stable enough to have at least 64 players in a conflict match ?

[olive trail]

That is a good cost for the amount of gear you have.

I would like to keep the same stamina we have now until the weight is ~30 kilos, each kilo after that, will make sprinting cost more stamina, and will make jogging slower.

so an example is ~10% slower jogging for each kilo after 30, and on 40 kilo, you are down to marching speed. not the slow motion speed.

anything over 40 you break your spine and die

[main tide]

no my point is simply slaping on movement speed limitations still wont stop people from wasting supplies evne without going too much overweight. . I think even marko's point nailed the point home much harder. 5000 supplies for 1 spawn, just due to his freind packing some hilarious over the top amount of morphene.

becuase morphene doesnt weight much or take up much volume in invetory but if you want some obsene amount of morphene in inventry you can in your loadout.

i think even a basic infantry kit is going to become even more costly for scope of A4, because something tells me night vision goggles wont cost cheap supplies, but you can bet everyone and their mother will want to wear them at night time.

either way Infantryman should never be as costly as vehicles, because infantry are supposed to be expendable individually. To use chess as an analogy on which assets will be most valuable based on supply cost, Infnatry are your pawns. APCS will be your bishops, IFV's your knights , Main battle tanks will be your rooks, attack helicopter will be your queen, and Fixed wing attack/ fighter bomber assets will be your King

[olive trail]

the goal of making each spawn cost supplies was to make infantry not expendable, so players can't spawn back to back with no consequence, and instead will have to think before they act.

[cobalt agate]

It don’t work, it just punishes the thinking players because the morons don’t do supply runs and have expensive kits and keep dying

[errant leaf]

exactly why a player centric allowance or equipment budget should be introduced, saving loadouts should also be removed for a bit just as a test, i know they were desperately needed when net issues were a big thing but maybe now we can start to see them fade away meaning players when spawning dont take as much supplies

[real dome]

There are still crashes and server lag for 32p

[real dome]

Maybe have it so that higher rank allows you to save more into a loadout

[hearty whale]

just make it so that you can only equip saved loadouts at arsenals otherwise you have console players stuck at it for 10 minutes every time

i think saved loadouts should be
weight limit of around 40kg (that amount is mostly just a estimate on my part im not exactly sure how much everything weighs in the game)
limit loadouts to a maximum of 150 supplies
blacklist some items from saved loadouts like how it works with radios such as launchers and grenade launchers
make spawning with a saved loadout on radios cost 2 tickets instead of 1 (although this should only be done if the base amount of tickets for radios is increased a bit)

[errant leaf]

true, it is a big struggle for xbox players, this suggestion 10 times better though and makes more sense gameplay wise 👍

[hearty whale]

i think launchers should be blacklisted from saved loadouts to make vehicles such as the btr a bit more usefull rn its ab it of a death trap since everyone can easily have a launcher on them if the launcher is blacklisted you dont always have the weapons to deal witha btr forcing you to change your tactics and that way you also have more engaging gameplay

humvees will also become slightly more usefull due to it although most of the time you dont need a launcher to deal wit hthat anyway

[ornate marlin]

neither for the btr

[hearty whale]

i think ig the game giving you a lack of weapons equipment and ammo would make the game more fun since you cant just win every fight the same way anymore

[hearty whale]

i mean yea you can deal with a btr with a m60 but it isnt as easy
also m2 brownings are already rare

by removing a unlimited supply of launchers a properly supported btr will be much stronger then it is now since you can jsut repeatetly respawn with a launcher and just try to kill it over and over and over again

cause like yea 50 cals will fuck btrs up but you have acces to them waaay less often then with launchers and you probabl;y need some good teamwork to kill it with a humvee

[main tide]

i mean massacring an entire squad over and over will eventually still result in attrition eating away at supplies but you need to think about scope and scale of a4 of fighting a conventional war. I would agree if the game only ended on Infantry with ground support only ending with 4x4's or lightly armored apcs. but that wont be the case for a4

[main tide]

but i thought they expensive kit guys were supposed to be special forces, or i guess they are. just in a different way.

[errant leaf]

i dont think weight limit is necessary though, but a heavier effect on stamina would be nice

[cobalt agate]

lol you’d hope

[hearty whale]

special forces with a 99% hire casualty rate then normal loadouts

i noticed people with expensive loadouts 9/10 times dont know how to play and dont even use more then 1 of the 50 mags they bring before they die

[main tide]

sounds about right tho.

[hearty whale]

tbh yea a weight system that actually effects stamina and movement speed would probably fix it tbh

[hearty whale]

fair

[errant leaf]

haha, i dont think these players have SOG level skill in game though

[main tide]

haha yea thats true as well😆

[hearty whale]

i still stand by what i said about blacklisting launchers from saved loadouts tho by taking away the ability to deal with everything for players it will create more engaging gameplay/fights and make btrs alot more usefull and lavs too once their added

rn how loadouts work everyone will pretty much at all times have everything they need to deal with every situation

[real dome]

Grenade launcher

[hearty whale]

Thats why i also said in the post that grenade launcher sshould be blacklisted

a weapon that is overpowered af like the grenade launcher shouldnt be endlessly accesible with unlimited ammo

[main tide]

the thing is with how US infantry doctrine worked youd expect like nearly everyone in a squad to carry a m72 law

[hearty whale]

yes but in real life they cant respawn so they can get in with laws but if they want new ones they need to get them themselfs

also arsenal trucks get an actual use with this

[main tide]

i think the blacklists should only apply to dedicated and reloadable Anti tank weapons like M47 dragon

[hearty whale]

arsenal trucks up to this point have been the most useless thing ever lol

[errant leaf]

sad fact, exaclty why we need what you said earlier, recollect saved loadout on arsenal not on respawn

[main tide]

becuase its a large target to blow up. I mean why need an arsenal truck when even a humvee comes pre loaded with mines and various ammo types?

a humvee serves as a transport, a support platform ( 50 cal) and as a cherry on top has ammo pre loaded into it that you can re supply from

[hearty whale]

by removing laws and rpgs from saved loadouts it doesnt mean thgey are completely not accesible you just need to change how you play to get them

[hearty whale]

then dont put them on the front put them 50 meters back behind some trees or a house

and by removing rpgs in saved loadouts it wont get blown up as easily

[olive trail]

before this update, I would spam antenna, and keep spawning on a base, I never lost a single base, even while defending alone, no matter the number of enemies.

do we even know if conflict will be moving to a4

[main tide]

btr's are pretty tanky anyways with how shrapnel effects work

[hearty whale]

isnt that due to a bug tho

[main tide]

i dont see why it wouldnt be. its already imo a improved CTI. a spiritual sucessor

[hearty whale]

either way removing at and launchers from saved loadouts just makes the game more engaging and fun and opens up alot more playstyles instead of everyone running the same loadout over and over and over again

currently you just need a m16/ak with a gl and a law/rpg and you are set for everything

[olive trail]

what if your squad leader take a radio behind enemy lines and want the squad to spawn there. the squad will have to go with an at

[hearty whale]

a big group is coming towards you blow them up
a btr or humvee is coming blow them up
literally anything happens just shoot some grenades or rockets and you have won

[hearty whale]

take a car with at in it

you dont have supply lines behind enemy lines so you shouldnt be expecting to get everything you need

[olive trail]

that is too much thinking for the average player

[hearty whale]

everything should come with trade offs

[main tide]

those laws and rpg's wont be of much use against main battle tanks.

[hearty whale]

sadly true tbh most arma players are actual single digit iq

[hearty whale]

reforger wont have tanks tho

[main tide]

no but im thinking about how people are thinking short term about reforger. and now how this is going to carry over in a4 environment

[olive trail]

Balancing conflict now, while thinking of a4 which is years away is not constructive

[main tide]

reforger is supposed to be foundation of arma 4 so yes its constructive

[olive trail]

we don't even know if the mode will carry over.

Even if it does, they will have to go back to the drawing board anyway

[hearty whale]

a4 is not gonna be balanced the same as reforger it will have different weapons and vehicles

[main tide]

it supposed to take place in the same time period. its going to have more

[hearty whale]

yes some of the stuff may carry over but unless its gonna be really shitty its gonna have a bunch of different stuff

tanks arent even in teh scope for reforger so balancing around tanks makes zero sense

[olive trail]

even that is just what we assume from few sentences on the website. it's not confirmed

[main tide]

even from a doctrine pov. all your doing is by shooting a BTR is forcing the infantry to dismount and thus equalizing a fight

[hearty whale]

reforger will be balanced around it being reforger a4 will be balanced around it being a4

they may share some things but a4 and reforger are not gonna be the exact same game

[main tide]

maybe by infantry having rockets it forces a btr player to use thier brain not just drive right in front of adversary infantry position

[hearty whale]

maybe by not having endless amounts of at it will force infantry to think about how to deal with a btr instead of endlessly walking up to it shooting rocket dying respawning repeat

[main tide]

kand learn to keep distance to not have easy aqusition by laws. remember law is a close range weapon, not easy shooting a moving target past 150 meters

[hearty whale]

moving no but you can pretty decently hit a target even 200 meters away

[main tide]

infantry wouldnt have to endlesly walk up to it if BTRS weren't cable of tanking a dozen rockets

[hearty whale]

thats a bug tho not a intended feature and that should be fixed

although btr dmg is just inconsistent sometimes you one hit it sometimes it takes 20 rockets

[main tide]

its a night and day difference using an RPG versus law. faster traveling rocket with less drop.

[hearty whale]

why do i seem to be the only fucking person n this game htat is able to effectively use US sights

[main tide]

rpg is only more deadly now for long range shots due to that scope. which is ironic since its the soviets with the best armor atm. will change eventually with lav though.

[hearty whale]

the law scope is a bit weird to get used too but its great and easy to use once your used to it you dont even really need to range it

i really like the law scope

also another effect by removing gl's and at from saved loadouts machine guns gain an actual use again beyond larping as rambo

since you cant deal with large groups of enemies anymore by just shooting endless grenades and rockets at them

[main tide]

if you say so. i think otherwise. machine guns are always usefull

[hearty whale]

machine guns are only usefull for close range fights of like 5 meters in all other cases a grenade launcher does its job better

• gl's are just easier to use

[main tide]

disagree. HE is very inconsistent against unarmored vehicles

[hearty whale]

im talking against infantry

[main tide]

i have far better results hosing down a incoming uaz with an m60 then trying to nade them

[hearty whale]

although in my experience they usually kill everyone inside vehicles with one shot

[olive trail]

if the shot register that is

maybe the hitreg being so bad is not a bad thing after all

[hearty whale]

against infantry tho grenade launchers are pretty much always better i was having a fight in a forest a few days agfo and i couldnt see anyone so i jkust endlessly spammed grenades through it and killed like 5 or so people

with grenade launchers you can ignore cover you can ignore people hiden behind bushes you can ignore pretty much all types of cover

[main tide]

when mortars come the same result will be achieved.

[olive trail]

gl is definitely meta, it has all the advantage with zero drawbacks.

[hearty whale]

no one will use mortars

gl's are better then mortars with zero of the negatives

[olive trail]

If the game get more competitive matches, we will se an entire team running gl if they are serious about winning

[main tide]

mortars can be shot from a much farther distance

if you can shoot GL's you are close enough to be can be shot back. even with ironsights

[hearty whale]

so? who cares if the enemy sees them and they die they eithger kill them instantly or they die and respawn on a radio and are back with the gl

this is the whole fucking issue

there is no negative to dying you arent set back at all unless you die like 10 times in a row you jkust shoot grenades die respawn (with some nice restocked ammo) repeat

[main tide]

well its a good think radios only have 10 respawns then and only for squad mates

[hearty whale]

i did that once and it was kinda funny tbh people just couldnt react lol

[hearty whale]

10 respawns for one person is alot especially with full loadouts you can easily spam grenade for 5-10 minutes with it

[olive trail]

miky been doing competitive matches last I heard, but they seems more about having fun, than winning. maybe in the future, we will see more serious matches going on, and then the gl will out in force

[hearty whale]

radios need to be capped to where you need atleast 2 or 3 people to deploy them tbh

[hearty whale]

iirc i read that gl's were banned in atleast one of the matches

although im not active there so i might be wrong

[main tide]

or just give radios supply points. so the 10 spawns is instead for 50 supply kit

so an expensive kit spawns will run the radios dry faster

[real dome]

Remember that with a forward observer and mortar crew, you can blow whole towns up, which gls cant do

[hearty whale]

you can easily do tha with a couple dudes with grenade launchers

[olive trail]

I hope not

[foggy wyvern]

not really since buildings are built out of vibranium

[real dome]

Mortar shrapnel is much more effective than gls

[hearty whale]

grenade launchers are just easier and more practical too use

[olive trail]

I would rather the destruction be more realistic, instead of it being like bf were a 40mm can blow off an 9sqm wall

[hearty whale]

yes but grenade launchers ar emore accurate and you can have more of them alot more easily

[foggy wyvern]

it wasnt very realistic but you gotta admit it was cool

[olive trail]

cool af

blowing it up, and running through it to engage enemies was the shit

[foggy wyvern]

I also loved the HE shotgun, I tried to bring this into Reforger but explosives dont deal damage in multiplayer often

[hearty whale]

its easier to convince 10 people to run grenade launchers then it is to convince them to sit behind the line and fire mortars it just doesnt have the neuron activation fr them not seeing explosives

[real dome]

You can have more mortars too, im choosing mortars anytime because with gls you are stuck in one place and are vurneble but with mortars you can hit multiple spots in like 30 sec

[hearty whale]

are we talking about the same thing? gls are way more manouverable then mortars lol

[olive trail]

got called every slur under the sun for using that shotgun in bf

[hearty whale]

gls are more accurate easier to use and more fun

[foggy wyvern]

that being said, buckshot in reforger got me a 30:1 kd ratio and then I died because I had no ammo left

[hearty whale]

the only people that will use mortarsw are larpers (me) that just do it for the experience of doing it

[foggy wyvern]

just zooming around in monti

[hearty whale]

for mortars to see any significant use in reforger they will either need to be made incredibly op or gls will have to be nerfed

mortars are also gonna be less usefull since reforger doesnt have an actual frontline so targetting will be harder without directly seeing the enemies since they can be basically everywhere outside of the point

• most fights being over close distance will make them a danger to your team halfd the time

they wont be literally useless but it will just be better and more practical to use a gl 99% of the time

[foggy wyvern]

I want to use mortars in cqb

[hearty whale]

i want to direct fire mortars

[foggy wyvern]

exactly

[hearty whale]

wait we just described the gl

[foggy wyvern]

shoulder carried or at least quick deploy time, so I can jump a fence behind an enemy, put the mortar down and send them to the shadow realm

I love doing pvp in weird ways

I should make throwable c4 with remote detonator, make it stick to things

[olive trail]

I would say gl is more useful for lone wolves, and mortar is more useful for teamwork. Most bases are built in a small area, if you drop a couple of shells on it before pushing it, you will clear it.

[hearty whale]

they will rspawn before your on the base lol

[real dome]

Ivan cant magically teleport from morton to saint pierre

[hearty whale]

but if your attacking saint pierre you already will have people there with gls

[olive trail]

clear it as in clear defensive, and cover.

[hearty whale]

i would love to see mortars used but i just dont really expect it with how op and meta grenadel aunchers are

[olive trail]

I know I will use them. I can't think of anything more cancerous in pvp more than indirect fire

[hearty whale]

direct fire explosives with no end to them (:

atleast mortars have a big chance to miss since they cant just click on you

[olive trail]

I can deal with what I can see, and hear, but something in god know where raining fire on me is a different thing.

[hearty whale]

i mean just reposition

they cant track you like peopl can with gl's unless your crossing and open field or something

[errant leaf]

mortar rounds are heavy, logistics for mortars will need to be crazy if it is to be an effective tool

[real dome]

15 supplies per round

[errant leaf]

fair

[oak flare]

If a mortar would manage to hit you, then probably a spotter who is bracketing would be able to see you, and thus you would be able to see the spotter. So you can just kill the spotter and probably be ok.

[errant leaf]

arlands bunkers will be the only safe place when mortars come

[olive trail]

I don't think anyone need a spotter, since people will mostly be hitting stationary, fixed location bases.

also, spotterd don't make noise, they can sit inside a bush, and basically be invisible.

[oak flare]

Depends how much destruction comes with em. Currently there are no destructible roofs, so any building would be as good as a bunker.

Wish for destruction like Lego Fortnite. You throw a bomb in a building, and every brick reacts physically. I guess never gonna happen for ARMA but one can dream...

[real dome]

Radio backpack fixes problem

Cuz spotter will be back

[errant leaf]

true, but freeform bases will need to be fully utilised, being able to completely move a FOB would be amazing

transferring MOB status between held bases would also be cool

[spare linden]

You can use armavision in conflict to see through walls pls fix

[oak flare]

Pro tip; do it when you're uncon.

can read the map too

[brisk brook]

Man, im still advocating for it to be an option in config, like 3rd person

[real dome]

once explosives get added, can or will we be able to place them onto vehicles and them being attached to the vehicle while moving. Much appriciated

[brisk brook]

Moving vehicles *

[hearty whale]

i will create the ira in arma life

[real dome]

and get permad

rp servers usually dont like terrorist rp

[olive trail]

Just say you are role playing as the cia

[pure gyro]

Technically yes you can, by having a radio backpack in saint pierre, while you are in morton without enemies nearby(and radio range )

[real dome]

10 min delay tho and you cant go back to morton

[pure gyro]

Well you said was 'Ivan cant magically teleport from morton to saint pierre' so I just wanted to clarify that it IS possible lol I didn't say anything about being effective for more than a few minutes at a time or anything about teleporting back to the place you came 🥲

[real dome]

You have defeated me

[pure gyro]

I want to be really clear that I approach from the angle of sharing correct information, I didn't mean to appear to come in with a 'win vs lose' mentality like we're arguing; sorry muffin

[ornate shard]

Is this something like you were talking about?

[frosty gulch]

yeah something like that, but there is still a lil bit of zoom here, but still better than vanilla imop

[ornate shard]

It is the same zoom as with iron sights which I think is good.

And irl you would move your head a bit forward when aiming down sight

[slim pollen]

Anyone know why this happens?

[storm zephyr]

What time do they usually let you back in?

[slim pollen]

It doesn’t?

[storm zephyr]

So how long has it been like that?

[south adder]

Guys good night!
How can i fix this?

[open verge]

Same thing happens to me every night between 8-9 EST. Works fine until then and then suddenly won’t activate with 999+ ping and won’t load anything.

More people complaining of the same issue last night

[sleek heart]

Happened to my buddy the other night too. Clearly some load issues, he is on the east coast. Might be relevant

[hollow oracle]

First of all, stop using OneDrive. It's been states numerous times that Reforger has issues with it.

[main tide]

i would hope the devs add an option to allow helocopter doors to be toggled open and close instead of them having an animation that opens and closes the door every time a new person gets in, hueys in particular were known to fly with thier doors open

[foggy wyvern]

the cooldown should be enforced by the server and not the client, because if you click fast enough you can spawn a bunch more vics before the update reaches you back

[errant leaf]

infinite supply glitch? 🤣

[foggy wyvern]

well the gm disabled supply but its the same when you have enough supply to afford the vehicles

[errant leaf]

i will keep this in mind

feature request: binoculars while in vehicle turret please, specifically .50 humvee

[foggy wyvern]

mount the binos on the gun

[errant leaf]

duct tape mod when?

i would really dig some object placement stuff though, like being able to place plant trimmings on vehicles or fortifications, and placing ammo boxes and satchel charges wherever they need to be

[spare linden]

The spawning system is way over tuned. killing an enemy then seeing them spawn on a radio right in front of you just feels wrong.

[real dome]

If you attack it makes them wait 30sec to spawn

[spare linden]

as in literally put a round in the radio?

[real dome]

No, when you start the timer on the base it extends the spawn timer from a few sec to like 30sec

[spare linden]

Yeah I noticed that but it doesn't seem to work 100% of the time

all spawn mechanics need to me made way more strict to stop gun fights being about camping spawns

Right now I just don't feel like your life has any value

[real dome]

Supplies wise yes

So theoretically while attacking if you drain enemy supplies you can prevent enemies from spawning

[spare linden]

when a base has 6000 supplies thats not really a fair system

if you spawn and die 3 times i feel like youve had your chance do defend

[real dome]

Major bases are more important so its fair to have stuff

[spare linden]

radios should also have a bigger limit to how close they can be to bases

[real dome]

And they rarely have 6k supplies, maybe 2k

[spare linden]

being able to place it in view of a spawn point is just peak cheese

i think if reviving and getting downed was more reliable id feel better about having longer spawn times

kinda like squad

[real dome]

You do get downed a lot, ppl just execute you.

With the hitreg the shots are not reliable, so you could get hit in torso but game says no

[spare linden]

Yeah id say it be better if conflict had a revive system like KOTH or invade and annex in arma 3 where if you die you can just be revived no matter what

[real dome]

They took it from ace

[spare linden]

yeah i used to just disable that in ace unless we were playing with a larger group

its realistic and all especialy if the hitreg works but in practice its kinda frustrating if youve just driven or walked a fair distance

[real dome]

Def they should make so you wake up less but there you only need one bandage for a wound so hopefully that gets changed.

[spare linden]

you should just look at there torso and see a menu that gives all the option instead looking at each limb

way too fidgety especially with ragdolls ending up in weird positions

[real dome]

Somebody is gonna cry about there being a menu

[spare linden]

Had a friend who was bleeding from his legs but I couldn't bandage them because they were in the wall

ace had the advanced medical menu if you wanted it

I see the immersion in looking at the right limb to heal but it ends up being gimmicky and counter-intuitive

The UI is a little too much but I ended up using it pretty much exclusively

[real dome]

Yeah was hard to heal in ace if they were in a bad animation

[spare linden]

a streamlined version of this would probably be the best option unless they make the current system less janky

I'm sick of "finding the sweetspot" being the main element of ui in this game

was a pretty big problem in vanilla Arma 3 as well

[stray frost]

Same thing with opening doors and gates. It's better than A3 but still difficult to find the right spot sometimes.

[spare linden]

an interact button would be an easy fix for doors and stuff where you just need generally look and click to open it

I guess now that controllers are factored in its all about preserving buttons

[pure gyro]

Once the server gets slow you can dupe supplies by dropping them out of the depot sign in vicinity. It will remain on 500(or whatever it was at) supply but you are allowed to continue dropping hundreds extra if you're quick before it updates the amount.. Most I've dropped from a HQ tent and armory was around 5.5k supplies from 1500 that was at the base(done while capping to prevent enemy from having supplies to spawn in)

So I guess infinite supplies sometimes on?

[pure gyro]

Kinda like this (a little hard to see)

[pure gyro]

There's loads of interact points that need an adjustment on the detection area, most namely the big green/blue gates or the idle sitting/standing positions. Such a pain trying to open those then having it get stuck on me while opening because my head was 2 inches from the interact point

[livid nebula]

Buy a new graphics card that fulfils the games minimum requirements

[real dome]

there are some issues with the arsenal, picking up stuff and puttin them back is slow

the ui updates slow and you have to spam the buttons to get stuff

[queen forum]

the 48 player gm servers are terrible. the gms aren't able to handle that many players and its just total chaos

[brisk brook]

Ever heard of saying "careful what you wish for?" 😉

[urban olive]

Add back missile physics

[noble beacon]

We need a Stable update

The current state of the game is awful 😔😢😢😢

[errant leaf]

thats a GM and player problem though

[errant leaf]

i read they removed it because of weird collisions, does it feel shit now?

[rare pilot]

LMAO

Community servers of various gamemodes have been dealing with 128 player lobbies for months now, theyre amazing

Even GM ops that have 60+ players can run well if the GMs know what the hell theyre doing, and the players respect the GMs enough

[alpine steeple]

Does anyone know why creating a functional arsenal system (like A3s) has not been a priority for Reforger? As much as I love a lot of other things in reforger, it seems that the arsenal and the ability to customize your kit is not high on their priority list, though it really should be. I mean half of the Arma experience is playing barbie dress-up! Lol

[cobalt agate]

please prevent players from dropping their gear, only allow it to be dropped in Arsenal boxes, it is going to break servers with the “updated” cleanup system especially now servers are 48 players

[pure gyro]

Vehicles delete themselves way too soon in official conflict now, I'll capture a small base fairly quickly and walk back 30 meters to where I parked my vehicle and poof nowhere to be seen

Also just got stalled error and came back to this 🤔

I am falling, but still in my UAZ? I can also prone and still have the falling animation while face down

[foggy wyvern]

muting players should persist so I dont have to do it every time I join a server

[noble beacon]

If I remember correctly, players with gamepads cannot change into different clothes

[cobalt agate]

That I’m not sure about but I know too many people in one arsenal box causes it to stop working properly

[pure gyro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjCX5wTPvMA

Sky swimming update

[errant leaf]

if you are continuously falling but are moving across the terrain that can only mean one thing! you are in orbit!

[pure gyro]

I decided to 'get stuck' in a tree before I could swim above monti lol watched a few teammates come die at cav hill before server shutdown

[spare linden]

We really need an option to flip/push vehicles

flipping from desyncing is way too common

[timber sparrow]

There's progress on unflipping/pushing

[real dome]

What about heli recovery system

[timber sparrow]

No word yet

[real dome]

Rip my heli

[errant leaf]

is it squad type of system? or is it a bit more interesting? winch please???

[timber sparrow]

Intent is to make it benefit from teamplay

[real dome]

Group effort makes dream work

Do you think there would be similarities to the building mechanism? Like one guy could do 25% lifting and 4 guys could do the 100%

[timber sparrow]

All depends on situation

There will be some simplification but not entirely dumb

[real dome]

For console?

[real dome]

With the news blogs on the official page, it would be nice to have them be like the once from when the game first released 2 years ago, since like every update has this corporate feeling pictures that are in almost every news blog it would be nice to have the pictures show some part of the update even if its a minor update, show the scenery around and make it beatiful.

[obtuse fjord]

Could you please open a ticket on the feedback tracker (see channel description)?
Thank you

[spare linden]

better for them to have easy access instead of sifting through discord

[timber sparrow]

No difference there

[timber sparrow]

You can complain here but don't take it for granted, Discord is more a fast feedback route but less persistent

[ornate shard]

And a lot of valid feedback gets easily lost in this mess of wild ideas and angry nerds

[errant leaf]

the point of this channel is for devs to give feedback on us giving feedback, in the form of telling us to make reports 😆 therfore this is feedback channel

[timber sparrow]

The point is you can provide feedback here, but limitations apply due to Discord's nature. You can discuss it, get other players involved and potentially attention of devs.

[olive trail]

I found some bugs with the GM, and opened a ticket on the feedback tracker: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T180185

Hopefully I win the 20.000$ prize for bug reporting. Thank you, and you are welcome.

[errant leaf]

you measure cents to the third decimal point?

[olive trail]

we use the point to separate round this parts, partner.

[errant leaf]

,

[olive trail]

colonial sentiment will not be tolerated

[timber sparrow]

We often discuss the feedback posts internally when interesting or new information is provided

Was refering to this

[real dome]

Please, can yall buff meles so we can unkon ppl again

[simple kindle]

Has anyone experienced a bug where, after respawning from the deployed radio, changing the frequency using the g key does not work?

[foggy wyvern]

people use radios?

[ornate shard]

I think melee should not kill like they currently do.
At least blunt melee.
It should knock people unconscious and then when bayonets get added they would straight up kill.

[frosty gulch]

Please tell me its the same as in DayZ but requires more people for different vehicles🙏 🥹

[cobalt agate]

Not only the deployed radio but handheld transiever too

[brisk brook]

Yes. U can "fix" it if you enter vehicle and then use it. Doesnt work again if u exit vehicle

[queen forum]

the problem is so far these gms dont seem to have any clue what they're doing and every time i join its just a ton of teamkilling

[brisk brook]

Also tells alot about players

[queen forum]

community has been deteriorating lately in my experience

[queen forum]

just joined the gm server and the heli that was supposed to take us to objective just got teamkilled before it could even start up

and now they're killing everybody at base

i think they need to remove teamkilling from official gm servers because there's honestly more teamkilling than actual fighting

[real dome]

Lol

[oak flare]

Bro I flipped my Abrams. Let me just grab a few buddies and we will push it back over no problem.

[queen forum]

i think there needs to be a system where everybody has to vote when the server has no GM because they almost always end up dying because nobody votes

[frosty gulch]

had Jeeps and UAZs in mind for that, for heavier stuff it would be cool to have towing and some special vehicles that would help with unflipping you Abrams. But even if we could unflipp heavier vehicles with "few buddies" I would take it any time over magical hold F interaction, that magically turn the vehicle over

[oak flare]

Love the idea of recovery vehicles. I wonder in future how advanced the physics could get in this engine. e.g. some simulation of joints/towing and/or rope physics

[queen forum]

i feel like its gonna end up the ambulance where nobody uses them because they're too big of targets

[pure gyro]

Okay with Official I've played too many fucking times on soviet because stuff like this will cause it to end in less than 1h30m Took me and 4 others with 1000+ hours each, plus the rest of the team we had just to hold off the team of 33 americans capping the 3 closest bases to our MOB for 3 hours; this team balance is bullshit, I appreciate the new players who are trying to help with the balance but after a while they want to try the other faction out and then we're back into 34vs14 again boom done within the time it takes team A to get to each of the major caps

[real dome]

People just like americans so much

[pure gyro]

I'm just going to fight fire with fire, for the next week I'm playing nothing but US and rush a finish

[cobalt agate]

Unconscious people can still talk, use radio and open a map

[real dome]

wont do much prolly but there was actually balanced games on the eu servers yesterday

[dark olive]

Just wait until player controlled AI squads come out

I think it'll balance that out

[queen forum]

pls remove that one really ugly character

[errant leaf]

which one?

[olive trail]

The one that show up in the reflection when the screen is black

[queen forum]

ya that one

[queen forum]

ok im not going to lie they genuinely need to remove teamkilling from official GM servers they are downright unplayable now

[pure gyro]

Just need to make servers perform ~25-40% faster and I feel like the game is in a really good place(based on player experience on full official 48 and community 100+ servers), with some minor drawbacks like occasional DC(I mostly only get stalled after 4-6 hours of playing but I see some people get DC'd more often than I)

The server FPS still drops to below 15 on official but it doesn't seem to stay there forever, it will start spitting packetloss instead now.

I still feel like maybe advanced numbers of recruited AI mixed with 40+ players is the problem, maybe we can reduce the individual base recruitment limit just a tad for everything that isn't a major cap (for example, it doesn't make much sense that gravette can house and maintain the same amount and quality of soldiers as per say military levie)

[scarlet kestrel]

Can we get a handful of Offical modded servers with RHS? Like how the test play with the devs was.

[waxen holly]

should replace prefab death animations with ragdolls

similar to squad or tarkov