reforger_feedback

[cobalt agate]

I’m fully aware, I’ve been playing it since it came out more than a year ago

[stray frost]

I mean I don't think it's even going to have SP when it is complete

[cobalt agate]

It won’t

[stray lake]

Anyone know a good weapons mod for US/Rus that is well fleshed out?

[errant leaf]

cant go wrong with rhs mods 👍

[unborn osprey]

game is hella laggy for me, even with an RTX 4070 and a 13th gen I7

like really bad

going to have a look at it though, see if it can be fixed

[limber warren]

#screenshots_arma message

[fair dove]

That don't sound right, I have almost bare minimum requirements and it runs fine for me 🤷‍♂️

1660 on an i7

[olive trail]

I have the same spec as dodgy and the preformance is coin flip. I either play with over 100 fps or 40 fps max.

No idea why and how. Changing settings doesn't help at all. It's completely random.

[fair dove]

Oh... 40 fps is avg for me. Scientists claim most humans can register between 30-60fps with their eyes. I think I'm somewhere in the middle.

[unborn osprey]

Cleared my directX cache and some other caches and that helped massively

Revising my feedback
This seems to be pretty common, but I would like some water effects when I walk or drive through puddles
Also making game master a bit more like 3den to make it easier for mission editing

Other than that, nothing I can think of that hasn’t been mentioned, obviously would like more singleplayer content but obviously not happening. Oh well

[errant leaf]

same with my system

[errant leaf]

they added these effects in experimental, you will see them when it is pushed to stable

[unborn osprey]

oh awesome!!

[errant leaf]

i asked for the water effects on vehicles a while ago, it is nice to see that the devs have implimented them, they look quite nice as well!

[frosty gulch]

it would also be nice to have big splash effect when driving in the lake or sea or something like that

[errant leaf]

ripples from charachters & vehicles would be cool, probably not possible with current water system tho

[brisk brook]

Perhaps a splash too. So you can spray innocent bystanders when you jump in

[foggy wyvern]

droplets on windshield mandatory as well, forza style

[frosty gulch]

its a must😂 ☝️

[fair dove]

Would be pretty nice to have backend updates/changelogs, might keep me from pulling all my hair out! Its become obvious you guys can update that without doing a game update, so how are we to know when something has changed on the backend without just a wild guess? Id love to give feedback on those backend updates, but IDK how I'm supposed to know there was an update to begin with!? 🤷‍♂️ I feel like some higher up is going to yell at me like: "That's on a need to know basis private, and you don't need to know!"

[solar nebula]

Why are allow xbox players to play the game? They just teamkill and remove averything from your bases.

[cobalt agate]

Every single xbox player team kills and removes everything from your base, that’s a huge amount of players

[fair dove]

Server owners can restrict to PC only players, are you playing on official servers?

[hoary dragon]

Like 1000-1500 people apparently

It’s just people coming back on alts causing a problem

[cobalt agate]

Wait you lot were being serious? I was joking, a few bad eggs and you blame all xbox players

[solar nebula]

yes

[cobalt agate]

skill issue then

[fair dove]

RIP

[zinc river]

M203's 40mm grenades need to have spent cases also when reloading. The russian ones, VOG-25/30 don't have a shell casing right?

[errant leaf]

yes this!, would be so cool now that you mention it, then we can demand for a windscreen wiper update!

[errant leaf]

i dont think russian ones do, but you are right we need shells for m203

[errant leaf]

i would say that 1% of the xbox community are trollers, we cant throw them all in the same basket! many are quite fun to play reforger with

[real dome]

Maybe 5% trolls, 50% have no clue and no mike and 20% have a mic and have no clue and then 30% have a clue.

[hoary dragon]

I think that’s reforger playerbase really especially BTR gunners

[zinc river]

I dont see players using the new medical system. If you go incapacitated, you simply respawn. What if when you die, (killed or force respawn) you lose one rank. When you die as sergeant, you went back to corporal. If you die again, then you go back to private. That way, maybe we wont see too many BTRs... And those that can spawn a BTR, will be deem precious. Or maybe the players wont care anyway

[real dome]

I dont think that is good, it takes time and just because you get teamkilled couple times you lose rank, It should just be spawn timer extended but not losing rank due to respawn or death

People just dont know and dont bother to use the medical system.

[glossy tulip]

might keep me from pulling all my hair out!
and you started experiencing some specific problem recently which you think might be caused by backend and not broken game?

[simple kindle]

because right now there is no "reward" besides having back soldier faster, they should add something that will encourage people to use this system instead of respawning

it might have better sense with 100 vs 100 when every soldier count when respawn time would be over 1 min

[real dome]

The reward for reviving someone which takes couple seconds on most situations is 1 more person to fight with

A lot just dont know and are new to the game, Some just dont bother learning the game.

Some dont even have a clue that you are downed

[simple kindle]

but then why bother if you can respawn and have your loadout saved ready = so they give up, and also people dont bother to help because a) dont know how, b) they might be killed by enemy when doing so if no one cover the place

[real dome]

Literally 1 morphine wakes up most people, and the point of being downed is that you dont have to wait minutes to spawn and come to the area again, not every place, especially on everon has a radio man

I cant even remember a situation where i cant give someone a morphine and then go to fight

[simple kindle]

yes but if he didnt lost so much blood and wasnt shot multiply otherwise you wont even run after morphine injection

also time is crucial here, but when underfire no one bother doing this

[real dome]

How i have been playing time hasnt really mattered, i can waste 10 seconds and still win the situation,

[simple kindle]

you, yes but most players dont want to

[real dome]

Yeah and its a sad reality due to them lacking in something upstairs.

[simple kindle]

i gave you already reasons behind this, you cant change it so easily by saying people lack of something

system is good, execution still need to be refind

[real dome]

I Do agree

[simple kindle]

but still its early access might as well they introduce classes when medic heal you super fast but soldier takes more time to do it

just like in battlebits

[real dome]

To be honest it is similar to ace medical and in arma 3 people could easily heal you.

[simple kindle]

everyone can heal but medic class is doing it not only fast but can do more

[real dome]

Classes are probably going to be implemented but maybe as a last update

[simple kindle]

but i wanted to balance this, like medic cant do things better than avarage soldier

[real dome]

In ace, medics could heal faster and stitch your wounds so they wouldnt open.

[simple kindle]

like cant run longer fast or can carry more or better aim gun, something for something

[real dome]

Have you played the ace mod ever?

The way arma 3 has it implemented i think that was good so have it similar to that

[simple kindle]

arma reforger and dayz are the only games from BI i played, so no

[real dome]

Ok well then if you ever get to play that and play multiplayer there and play with groups and so on. You can see another perspective to this medical thing. As arma reforger has taken inspiration from mods of arma 3.

[simple kindle]

iam reading about this mod right now and even pointing finger looks like something it should be implemented right away in reforger (Allows players to point in a direction with their fingers, when they do so people around (4m by default) can see a big circle in the pointed direction.)

[real dome]

Yeah

[narrow wraith]

No thanks on medic downsides.

A medic "class" is fine, but it needs to be someone who just has more knowledge.

ACE was brought up and that's really how it should be.

Regular players can stabilize (and bring back with morphine depending on severity of wound) and medics can bring that back to full health with blood bags for serious injuries or "stitching wounds" which would be represented by a lowering of overall max health (can take one or two less rounds?).

[real dome]

yeah downsides arent really good

[fair dove]

Im pretty busy getting my other servers up now, but I may have found the issue. The Crash Reporter never actually shut down, it's been open for the last few days, I think thats why I was in a crash loop.

[pure gyro]

Time. Time is huge in this game, 2 minutes travel time can mean the world of difference and then there is supply usage on top of this(stuff will cost ammunition supply at some point so you better get used to being efficient). Someday people will realise that the extra time alone saved being 2+ grouped is well spent even if only for medical assistance purposes.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a skill issue if you don't take advantage of such systems available to your disposal.

[proven gyro]

Re: Environment Update, looking splendid, however the skybox/cloud formations are still a big let down with Enfusion and are increasingly looking out of sync with each environmental update, hopefully there is still more to come on that front.

R.I.P trueSKY. 🙏

[olive trail]

Our current match on PBS has been going on for two hours. I as GM crashed once at the start. The majority of players said they didn't crash at all during the past two hours.

[olive trail]

Second match, I had to head out after an hour. During that hour, I saw one mass crash of eight players. Nothing more.

[woeful mist]

Not sure if this has been brought up, I absolutely love the new changes to the maps. One request? Can we get height added to the topo map?

Like more than there is currently

[frosty gulch]

you can point with a finger in Reforger, but it has no magical circles

[slow cradle]

need to do more verification and testing but I couldn't close the map after using the markers on a DS. I had to 3 finger salute it.

[dark epoch]

I love the attention that was given to waves, wasnt expecting that! They look very realistic indeed. Here is some (completely subjective) feedback:

• Maybe boost the sound. Would be so cool to hear the waves from further away and louder. The watery sound is good, but I do miss that big humming sound from waves that are further away
• The waves seem too fast, if i pay attention it seems like im fast forwarding some footage

[gaunt marsh]

The waves are definitely way too fast. It's almost like the ocean is made of Jell-O.

[limber warren]

PLZ remove the sl map markers people are having friends in party chat/discord join opposite teams and are telling each other the locations of enemy players

[cobalt agate]

sl?

[hoary dragon]

More of a rare occurrence most players won’t do that

[cobalt agate]

What is sl

[brisk brook]

Squad leader

[cobalt agate]

o h! Thanks

[olive trail]

It happens in all games. People do it in squad and hll to snipe spawn points.

[olive trail]

The butterflies will despawn after few seconds if you chase them. I feel lied to, I feel betrayed. 🥹

[slow cradle]

The Butterfly is a Lie

[vivid night]

great job on this update team, much more stable, driving is much improved. very proud

[errant leaf]

same with leaves, i think it would be cooler if they despawned on collision, or at least do an alpha fade

[brisk brook]

Also birdflock.png

I kinda hoped you could hunt birds

[errant leaf]

same 😔

[foggy wyvern]

game devs add animals to the game
gamers: i must hurt them

[real dome]

This is more of a GM issue than game issue, happens in other games, especially easy for xbox

[cobalt agate]

That was the first thing I tried to do on the experimental built asked someone if they could hit it and they pulled out an rpg

[cobalt agate]

The gamers require chicken nuggies (any bird will surfice)

[gritty pawn]

"Soldier cares, soldier has" - https://youtu.be/AnFVNAURpD4?feature=shared&t=390

[errant leaf]

lmao

[olive trail]

I wanted to say I really appreciate the videos demonstration and images in the dev report. Makes understanding the entire thing much easier.

[foggy wyvern]

I was looking at a flock of birbs and they disappeared 😦

[brisk brook]

Yeah, same for me

[foggy wyvern]

I was disappointed that it didn't play the dragon ball z teleport sound

[brisk brook]

Seeing the post they shouldnt

[brisk brook]

Once again suggestion: Server queue

[olive trail]

I just got a new error, never saw before. The popup said "FLODED".

[vocal kernel]

FLOODED happens sometimes on a poor connection, but "FLODED" would be new

[solemn fossil]

flo rida joined your game and it kicked you

[olive trail]

Can we get more type of containment zones? Maybe ones that we can control the size of, and make em team speicific. Also ones that restrict players from getting inside, not going out of. This will help a bit with server moderation.

[errant leaf]

yeah would help with keeping certain factions out of spawns

[tidal jungle]

A good bit ago I got off a game that lasted 4 hours on the powerbits arland conflict server, I was there for most of it and here's the results
-The server held on for the whole duration, mind you it was running fully vanilla (I think so anyway)
-Hit registration felt wonky, I used a M60 for a bit and felt like shots weren't connecting or not registering, I then switched to the M14 (or M22 w/e) and got way more response via volume of fire (I just kept shooting until the bad man was dead, this was at 60-90 ping, also it just shoots faster)
-There were SOME mass disconnects (internal error) of 4-8 people at a time at certain points, though the cause of this is unknown to me as I wasn't caught in them
-Some odd connection error disconnects here and there otherwise
-In the span of those 3-4 hours I was on I crashed twice via the screen freezing, no prompt to send the crash logs appeared, got back in pretty quickly though
-I got captain by killing ~100-150 soviet soldiers and mostly holding the military training area in Arland, unfortunately the stats of this were lost on the second crash so I can't get my full bragging rights going /shrug
-I can't feel my soul after four hours of tube grenades
Overall: Stability proves to be significantly better, will continue to look further into this, but I'm happy with the results of the game actually being more playable thus far

[real dome]

Basically its the same as before just a bit less crashes and dcs

[gritty pawn]

The PBS server lags on its own, not quite ideal for some hit detection and the like

[gritty arch]

I played all day on Thursday from the update release until about 2 am gmt, this was on the PBS server and not once did I get kicked from the server or did the server/round reboot, I had one crash but strangely the game just locked and I got the standard windows crash message without the Bohemia crash report send request, this was around 12 hours of play time with the server for the most part full

Friday was a bit of a mixed bag as in the afternoon there where a couple of server kicks and also restarts of the round, I haven’t been on at all since fri tea time but Thursday was 100% night and day more stable compared to previous versions

[limber warren]

most of those problems are caused by the shitty server provider pbs uses not the game

[foggy wyvern]

why do people think that bugs in the game are somehow relevant to server providers?

[olive trail]

They just need to get their jabs in

[fair dove]

Some server providers overload their machines with multiple instances which results in crappy performance for the renter

[foggy wyvern]

yea I guess that would get you some lags but not the replication kick nonsense I'm seeing all over the place

[limber warren]

because i only have those problems on pbs but never on official

i love pbs im on it as im typing this but the majority community servers have lag issues that official doesn't from my experience

[fair dove]

Cuz official only allows what like 20 players per server?

[olive trail]

And they run full Everon so you have one player per two square kilometer.

[fair dove]

Well at least it has great performance! 🤣

[olive trail]

#screenshots_arma message
This type of aiming over the gun without the need to use the rear sight would be pretty cool

[hoary dragon]

32 now for all servers

[gritty arch]

Grenade stuck in hand bug is still a thing and very annoying, will it ever be acknowledged and fixed i wonder? There's a question for the Q+A stream when it goes live

[olive trail]

ammo boxes from the BTR turret and the M2 still disepear randomly.

[main tide]

the inventory bug is still present. every now and then i hop out of vehicle and cant unholster my primary or switch inventory items and am forced to respawn to fix it

[real dome]

Go back in the car and it usually fixes

[fair dove]

gunner seat? if so, drop your weapons and pick them back up.

[main tide]

i cant drop anything when that happens

[real dome]

Yeah for me fix is to get back in the car and back out, or run and spam the next weapon button

[violet vale]

its not fully confirmed yet, but that may be gone internally.

[cobalt agate]

We shouldn’t need work arounds for bugs

[brisk brook]

You can embrace the bug then 😉

[cobalt agate]

Non combatant role because my gun glitched

[calm slate]

That used to work for me on the previous incarnation of this same bug, but not anymore

[cobalt agate]

it’s evolving!

[rare pilot]

Most annyoing bug now

[calm slate]

The work around to this bug, I think, is to not interact with the vehicle inventory while in the vehicle. I don’t do that anymore and I no longer get the bug

[rare pilot]

Is when the radio doesnt scroll up
And only scrolls down

[calm slate]

The most annoying bug that appears fixed is the one where you get the binocular overlay when exiting the build screen? Thank God that’s fixed!

So I played about 30 hours (about 2/3rd on Offical, 1/3rd non-official) since the update came out. And credit where credits due, it’s a big improvement as far as I can see! I only had one game crash, and no real problematic bugs. I did get a new one a couple of times where the truck I was driving 100% lost power for some reasons, but hitting reverse and going forward again seems to fix it. Also another minor one a couple of times where I couldn’t equip a radio backpack. But overall, it was really stable.

[rare pilot]

Agreed, im impressed
I can actually start recommending this game to people with how well things are going

[calm slate]

My favourite new “functionality” in this update is a super subtle thing, but I’m loving it. Which is when you see the leaves blow off the trees and bushes when a grenade or a rocket explodes nearby. So good! 😃 ….easy, pleased, I know!

[rare pilot]

My favourite new functionality is being able to play for 12 hours straight without the server or my client crashing

[calm slate]

Yeah. Honestly, first time ever

[gritty arch]

100%, I was off on leave when the update was released and ended up hammering the game for about 3 full days and I had one crash and maybe a kick or possibly two but that was it, I always said stability being sorted would remove the shackles from this game

I look forward to a time of hopefully having 128 players on the full map of everon with the air support update

[errant leaf]

yes i have been overwhelmed by how good this update has been, i have played so much of reforger, my internet is crap full stop but i can still play a whole game without getting disconnected, devs need a pat on the back for this one they fixed their game, it is only going to get better to with the mentioned SA vehicle improvements they are working on and further traffic optimization 👍

[pseudo dirge]

That happened to me on the Arland play test with the devs. I had to run in as a suicidal soldier. Not sure if it worked

[slow cradle]

FEEDBACK: Script Mismatch Issue
At this time, and after joining server over 20 times in the last 12 hour period, I have not had one script mismatch error on joining.
I set my config to use only mods that have been updated under 0.9.9.97. Using the web workshop, I verified mod game version.

    {
        "modId": "597D72161FD1ED1D",
        "name": "AttachmentsCompatibility",
        "version": "0.0.5"
    },
    {
        "modId": "5E5ADAE5527A052A",
        "name": "AsyWarGrp AR 670-1",
        "version": "1.0.12"
    },
    {
        "modId": "5E66268564A5216D",
        "name": "ScriptMismatchTest",
        "version": "1.0.0"
    },
    {
        "modId": "5ABD0CB57F7E9EB1",
        "name": "RIS Laser Attachments",
        "version": "1.0.42"
    },
    {
        "modId": "5B3ED33ADA805340",
        "name": "Task Force Mattock Weapons",
        "version": "1.0.2"
    },
    {
        "modId": "5AB301290317994A",
        "name": "Suppressors",
        "version": "1.0.12"
    }

[foggy wyvern]

we already know this is due to a bug that's going to be fixed soon

[slow cradle]

This is a possible work around for server owners who are waiting for the fix, and people to be able to join without keep restarting. Define "soon". Today? Tomorrow? Next Week?

[foggy wyvern]

nature of the bug makes it so that it will intermittently happen to people regardless of how your server's config is setup

[slow cradle]

ok

[foggy wyvern]

for example a buddy of mine couldn't join a server I was playing on, then after a few hours, without the server changing anything, he joined fine

[slow cradle]

ok

[olive trail]

One bug that been prominent since the update is players who are in cars somewhere, are floating in the skies somewhere else. It happens way too often, and you can notice it more easily as GM.

[brisk brook]

These are just birds

[violet vale]

yes, because its still on our internal build. it wasnt on experimental at the time 🙂

[calm slate]

One of the other new features I like is the "squad" leader positions appearing on the map. It makes it so much easier to co-ordinate strategy for Conflict....however, it doesn't seem to make narrative sense. Why would I, as a non-squad lead grunt, be able to see those positions and not my own position on the map? I understand why I can't see my own (no GPS in 1989). And it makes some sense that __squad __leaders might know the position of other __squad __leaders

Here's my suggestion, which makes more narrative sense:

1. There should be a limited number of squads per side based on players numbers (e.g. 1 squad per 8 players)
2. There should be an unlimited number of "teams" under squads
3. Squad leaders should be able to see their own position (this is a "perk" for being squad lead)
4. Squad leaders should be able to see the position of other squad leaders
5. Non-squad leaders should __only __see their squad leader on the map
6. Non-squad leaders should __not __be able to see their position on the map

[stray frost]

Not a fan of squad leaders being able to see themselves on the map. Takes away from the land nav element of the game. Not really a fan of anyone being able to see anything on the map unless they put it there or they shared their map. But maybe that's too strict for a casual game and could be controlled on a server per server basis.

[gritty pawn]

Maybe it could work somehow, that the SL and the radioman would have to be close to each other and then they would report their position on the map through some action. But it's complicated, so no one would do it anyway.

Interesting that they originally wanted it without positions as creative director noted it in some video and now it's being redone unnecessarily.

[olive trail]

I believe the same thing. Clean boring paper map is the best, but we will probably have to accept the new changes for casual game play sake.

[stray frost]

Yeah I get why it's done but from a realism standpoint I would much rather us having to be coordinating and drawing things on the map ourselves. But at the same time PvP and large scale PvE isn't my preferred method of play... just the only one I really have at the moment

[solemn fossil]

i think it should be toggleable, i personally prefer as little real time info as possible on the map. if you need your position marked use a GPS

[zinc river]

I think it can be toggleable, just like the radio/voice chat where you can see who is talking, some server disable that, so you don't know who is talking. Maybe its friendly, or enemy. In normal server if someone speak in radio with UNKNOWN, you know its enemy have access to your radio. If you hear someone on proximity chat, but no name comes out, thats probably enemy.

[errant leaf]

maybe they make it optional for servers in future

[olive trail]

I think everything should be left to the server owners to adjust the experience, but I still feel that the developers even attempting this, in it current rendition is a diversion of what I thought was their vision for the game.

[warm cypress]

for me on m&k i just put about half a second inbetween each .5 tick upwards and it works.

[marble kindle]

If everyone is in their own team they can actually be used as player markers. 🥴

You shouldnt count as a squad leader unless your group is decently full

If anything

[errant leaf]

i do like the new map improvements minus the squad markers, lol it is extra funny when someone leaks them on discord mid match, not looking at anyone in particular.... 😆

[calm slate]

That’s why my suggestion is “automatic”. That is, its an abstraction of something that would be reasonable in real life for a squad leader to be reporting their position to platoon HQ, but it would be too hard and annoying to implement “manually” in game. Maybe it only works “automatically” if there’s a radioman in the squad? That seems reasonable

[calm slate]

The issue is that Reforger is supposed to be about MP co-op. It’s very difficult to do that without some “virtual” assistance. Just using radio comms, is usually a waste of time. I think a good option for players like you and @stray frost who prefer a “clean” map would be to allow toggle off of map icons. Pretty easy.

[real dome]

A short term fix could be that add a feature to disband squads and have the admins add rules for squads. Although freedom to each server owner on that

[slow cradle]

You're going to get the most Realism™ from going to the woods in real life with a map

These land nav elements and such sound great. But Reforger is already having people say that their team mates aren't communicating well or coordinating, this will just make it even harder

Gotta balance the unique selling point with fun

[calm slate]

That’s why my suggestion adds the additional level of “teams” under a “squad”. The current implementation with “unlimited squads” actually incentivises players to create many separate squads with only 1 or 2 players each, which is the opposite of what it should be for “co-op team play”

[real dome]

I think its more due to not much hardcore players coming in, hopefully it will become much better when game fully releases or arma 4 releases.

[cobalt agate]

Imagine going into an Arma game expecting it to be a calming no thought experience

[real dome]

exactly this, currently its like that people coming in having wrong expectations/attitude

[brisk brook]

It can be quite calming. Open gm in single player, place down a single unit, take controll of it, set movement speed to lowest and just walk around the map

[olive trail]

I don't know if this will make sense to a game designer, but I feel like they forging the game around a certain type of players, when they should design the game so it forge those players into arma players.

[gritty pawn]

That's not mutually exclusive. Reforger is milestone to the road to A4.

[cobalt agate]

Agreed, Arma reforger seems the most arcadey of all Arma games so far

it seems they are trying to get the most players without getting said players to play how you would expect an Arma play to play

[real dome]

I mean for arma 3 i just had to play a lot to figure the things out

[gritty pawn]

Players play it as designed. If you play it hardcore, the opponent will win in 10 minutes by exploiting the entire conflict scenario.

[oak flare]

Considering it within the wider trends of the game industry, BI is doing a damn good job of sticking to their roots with Reforger.

Look at any other 20 year old gaming franchise; it's transformed to generic game shit. But Reforger is still grounded in realism

[cobalt agate]

People don’t play Arma for the wider trends, people play Arma for it’s attempt at realism. If people wanted the newest trends… They’d get the newest call of duty instead

[real dome]

Guys we need to first see how the game is in its finished state before we make any claims about arcadiness, since it could change at any point.

[cobalt agate]

Valid point but I don’t think much will change just be added onto

[oak flare]

True that. Imo one of the most arcadey mechanics is the conflict respawn radios. But I see them as a crutch until the game has better mobility options. (i.e helicopters)

[real dome]

MHQ? there are plenty of gamemodes in arma 3 that had mobile respawns.

[oak flare]

I don't remember any game-mode in Arma 3 that had BF5 style zerg-rush respawn mechanic we play in Conflict

[real dome]

Overthrow or antistasi

[oak flare]

I talk about the backpack, not the MHQ

[real dome]

aah, sorry misunderstood

[oak flare]

Also different when fighting AI.

[real dome]

true that

[cobalt agate]

I do think the backpack radios shouldn’t be for respawn but instead increasing radio range (Like it currently does in game)

[real dome]

currently radio range is fucked

[olive trail]

I don't even consider reforger to be more arcady than a3 for example.

[cobalt agate]

How so?

[slow cradle]

I know Arma is meant to be more complex, but people are apparently not even following what's already laid out and adding this won't help

There has to be some concession to appeal to a wider audience

[olive trail]

a3 is not moer real. it's just clunky af.

[real dome]

because a lot havent even played arma 3.

[cobalt agate]

I played Arma 3 recently and would have to disagree, it might not look as pretty as Arma Reforger… even with 3’s more sci-fi elements it is less Arcade lije

[slow cradle]

Maybe they're just Xbox players

[cobalt agate]

I got into Arma 3 and 2 a few weeks ago with the anniversary sale so my points aren’t out of nostalgia

I got into Arma with Arma Reforger on Xbox

[real dome]

anyways wrong channel

[slow cradle]

Lol inb4 Groove_C

[real dome]

UR banned!

[cobalt agate]

Whomst’ve is Groove C

[real dome]

@tulip wind

[cobalt agate]

ruh roh raggy

[real dome]

its unlimited

[cobalt agate]

O H

I thought it got static-y to the point it was incomprehensible?

[olive trail]

I was hopping with the new arma titles, they will have 1st person as the standard, and you have to go and activate 3rd person.

[real dome]

some servers deactivate it but i think it should be part of the game its a good thing

[cobalt agate]

It is? You have to press a button to go into third person?

[olive trail]

As in servers should have it off by default, and must turn it on. Instead of it being on by default, and servers have to turn it off.

[real dome]

nah

[real dome]

enter

[cobalt agate]

Exactly so first person is default unless I’m misunderstanding your message

[real dome]

yeah, pressing enter gives 3rd person, which is only useful for looking out of cars or btrs which is nice.

[foggy wyvern]

also great for peeking around corners and walls so you can boost your KD in pvp

[real dome]

who cares about kd

[cobalt agate]

there’s KD in reforger? lol

[real dome]

yeah in the end of the game. been a thing for since medical update

[foggy wyvern]

KD is how you know if you are good at the game

[real dome]

ai counts in it

[cobalt agate]

Damn how come I never noticed, KD means nothing CTFO or capture the freakin’ objective

[foggy wyvern]

I think AI doesn't count in it, at least I didn't see my points increase for AI kills, only players

[real dome]

i think it does

[gritty pawn]

In the end-of-round stats, the AI counts as a kill

[foggy wyvern]

oh I only ever looked at the player list one, the one with votes

[gritty pawn]

But maybe it's bugged, DayZ stats have been showing completely random numbers for 10 years now 🙂

[brisk brook]

It does

[foggy wyvern]

they were all players I swear

[brisk brook]

And more or less correctly. But only keeps track for the time you are connected

[real dome]

yeah crash and boom dissapears

[brisk brook]

So if you get kicked, poof your kd. Hides your shame

[foggy wyvern]

I remember it keeping them for as long as the server is up

server stores all player IDs that joined the session when it's running

[cobalt agate]

It should be ranking your captures rather than your kill to deaths

I do plenty of captures but not very many kills as the squad I used to play with did the killing I rushed in and captured it

[brisk brook]

From my exp it doesnt.

It also tracks how much you travelled on foot or in car

[foggy wyvern]

it definitely stores all the player IDs, not sure about stats in current version

[brisk brook]

Stats is what i mean

[pure gyro]

Yeah the scoreboard that isn't in vanilla conflict only shows player kills, whereas endgame is combined

[olive trail]

~~https://www.veed.io/view/0f97f10d-ac6b-40ce-9440-56f1b3ea8a98?sharingWidget=true&panel=

This is how the average, official gunfights go down in the most immersive combined arms game on the market. This is how it was in older titles, this is how it is in arma reforger, and this is who it will most likely be in a4.~~

[rare pilot]

Wont let me view

[olive trail]

what does it say

[rare pilot]

Needs you to sign in and share it

[olive trail]

I'm just upload it to youtube and edit the commant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbKWbojdYU

This is how the average, official gunfights go down in the most immersive combined arms game on the market. This is how it was in older titles, this is how it is in arma reforger, and this is how it will most likely be in a4

[rare pilot]

The third person peeking :c

[gritty pawn]

Too bad there is no 1PP server since Podval community died fast.

Or they moved to modded server.

[brisk brook]

Id love to play 1p but, simply not enough interest. (Lacking periscopes and rear view mirrors too)

[rare pilot]

The only reason modded communities dont use 1pp is only is because of a lack of Vehicle stuff, like Marko mentioned
Thats the only thing holding most of them back

Even if the Gunner, Commander, and Loaders can see, the Drivers cannot without turning out
Making the vehicles ineffective at moving during combat

[olive trail]

This is my biggest pet peeve with the franchise since I started playing online pvp arma almost a decade ago.

[rare pilot]

That people treat it more like a game and less like a simulation?

[olive trail]

That the norm is 3rd person active.

[rare pilot]

Ah

[solemn fossil]

This crap with the workshop backend is getting ridiculous. After getting a script mismatch error on joining my own server ALL 16 of my local mods became corrupted. This is the 2nd time this exact problem has occured in less than 24 hours. I am, yet again, having to redownload 4Gb of data at 3Mb/s because BI can't get this shit right.

Additionally, this is STILL occuring after 4 local wipes and 2 server wipes. This is not a mod issue, the workshop shits the bed every time something changes. I do not need both my client and my server to verify file integrity with a (barely functioning) third service. I understand that Reforger is still in Pre-Alpha but this kind of network stuff is not exactly rocket science.

If anyone else is experiencing this problem please add to my ticket
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T175619

[brisk brook]

think its known already:
#reforger_servers message

[solemn fossil]

I saw that message the other day, the issue I'm having is that attempting to reconnect til it works corrupts all my local mods

I'm also only running the same 16 mods locally that the server is running, so a load order issue shouldn't occur unless there's something else the backend is doing

[gaunt marsh]

3 days in a row now I've had to clear my cache after trying to join a server and getting the script mismatch error. Trying to join the server over and over worked the first time but since then it corrupts all my mods every time. I'm also running all of the same mods locally and that hasn't fixed anything.

[fallen bobcat]

Yeah I had a problem where I kept getting a "AUS optical" error and when I disabled all my mods I couldn't even play vanilla. BI, good luck.

[calm slate]

I'm happy with 1PP when on foot, but I need 3PP for driving, for sure. But, yes, 3PP is arcady. In PVP I have to use 3PP to be competitive, because everyone else uses 3PP (TBF, 3PP is supposed to compensate for general awareness and subtleties you would have IRL, that are hard to account for in a game).

....but my biggest "arcady" complaint on community servers is having a kill feed. That is so ridiculous. So if we have a sniper hidden in a tree line, using skill and stealthiness to pick off careless enemies, those enemy players can just spam 40mm grendades and machine gun fire into the woods until they see a death appear on the kill feed. Its silly. Thankfully official servers don't use a kill feed.

[olive trail]

Killfeed on PBS for example exist because the game has no kill logs to identify trolls and team killers. Killfeed help with moderation, and is a necessary evil.

[austere juniper]

seems like delta patching still isn’t working with bigger mods 😑

[errant leaf]

i couldnt agree with you on that one, list infantry features in reforger and line them up with arma 3, guess who wins! although deadzone would be cool!

[zinc river]

It seems in new AMD driver 23.9.2, there is a problem with some type of grass/flowers/plants to only render at very close distance to you. The further ones not rendered. So when walking, it seems the plants popping up out of nowhere which kind of distracting. I don't know if this is BI problem or AMD problem, but I thought I should just mention it anyway

For now I just use the previous driver 23.9.1

[slow cradle]

we complaining about a kill feed now

[rare pilot]

It's a valid complaint, removes alot of skill from the game

[slow cradle]

my biggest arcady complaint is that the game needs a mouse and keyboard to play -- I mean, it removes the entire skill aspect of aiming an actual gun

[rare pilot]

Seeing your kill on the corner removes the cautious play of knowing whether they're dead or not, or discouraging good and attentive teamwork by seeing someone died rather than actually keeping an eye on where and what your teammates are doing

Squad doesn't have a killfeed and that works to great success

Having to scan a treeline to confirm your kill, or looking behind you every now and again to know whether or not one of your buddies got nabbed, is a much more immersive and in depth gameplay style than the Battlefield Lite gameplay that some servers lean towards

At the end of the day it's preference, but Arma usually leans towards immersion and realism, so having killfeed off fits much more with the gameplay

[slow cradle]

I can agree no killfeed can be more "immersive" -- but calling such basic features "silly" because of this one example of a grenade spammer, or the few cases where an enemy's death is inconclusive, is dumb

you can remove it for your own playstyle, but it's a basic feature across the genre

[rare pilot]

Arma is in and of itself in its own genre
Hell Let Loose, Squad, DayZ, Arma 3, and other Military Simulators don't have killfeed

At least, not by default

[slow cradle]

Yeah I was gonna say I joined a multiplayer server for the first time and remember seeing a killfeed in koth

And is DayZ really a mil sim

[olive trail]

killfeed in reforger is off by default.

[rare pilot]

I can't wait for Koth to get fleshed out by Awqwa and the other French dudes

[gritty pawn]

Server with kill feed = trash

[olive trail]

server without killfeed = trash

[cobalt agate]

Rubbish = trash

[real dome]

arma 3 has a killfeed

[rare pilot]

Arma 3 is older than GTA V

[real dome]

same age by years

[pure gyro]

Exactly, if we really cared about that kind of information we could just check our XP bar before and after barrage to see if we got credited for a kill or 2 anyway

If we had arty or stable attack choppers/planes in conflict, I would be a little more pissed about a kill feed

[fair dove]

would be nice if the pistol went into the secondary weapon slot automatically instead of having to drag/drop it into the slot.

[hoary dragon]

Not like the pistol will do anything anyway with the way the body armour system is

You need like 10-15 bullets to kill someone

[fair dove]

thats not the point

[rare pilot]

Ah yes, the age old method of fixing bugs
Dont use the item that causes them and ignore the bug exists

[fair dove]

yeah just dont play the game, then you have zero bugs lol

[hoary dragon]

K bro

[olive trail]

Do we know if this specific armor can irl catch that much bullets?

Even without the armor, the pistol still needs I guess four bullets on the chest to kill

[hoary dragon]

Idk ik 6b2 can stop 9mm

[fair dove]

Regardless of all that, I'd still like the pistol to go straight into the secondary weapon slot. I mean what else would even go there? The primaries auto assign to the primaries, so why not the secondaries?

[olive trail]

It happens sometimes. At first, I thought it only happens with the inv if sull, but no, even when I have space, it goes into the slot sometimes.

[fair dove]

I've never had it go into the slot unless my inventory is full

I remember on release the primaries could go into the inventory too, seems like that was disabled for primaries. I don't think it should be disabled for secondaries, but I do think it should go into it's designated slot if it's empty.

[cobalt agate]

In a backpack they can

[limber warren]

i love that the 64 slot official servers are back but can we get one thats on everon?

[calm slate]

Yes please!

[hoary dragon]

64 official I haven’t seen any unless you mean PBS?

[limber warren]

Nope the added one today that’s on arland

[hoary dragon]

I wish it was Everon bro 😔

Everon doesn’t get enough love

[limber warren]

just looked and they removed it😭

rip 64 slot servers

sep 21 - sep 21

[real dome]

Todays september 22

[zinc river]

I see it just now it's still there. The US-NY one... 64 players conflict Arland

[errant leaf]

it only underperforms in multiplayer, devs need to do much more optimization to hit reg

[foggy wyvern]

it gets worse, explosive bullets dont deal direct damage to players (or AI) in multiplayer, have to shoot at their feet like rockets in quake 3 arena

works fine in singleplayer!

[tribal edge]

The ability to move base-building objects around without having to dismantle them first would be nice, especially for the supply depot but it'd be a good QoL feature for others too.

[brisk brook]

Players run to armory, cheeky basebuilder moves it 2m away 😉

[tribal edge]

Which can already be done so that's an existing problem. There could be some sort of a timer for each player to prevent spamming, like in the case of vehicle spawning.

[brisk brook]

I agree

[errant leaf]

or maybe we give thse entrenching tools a purpose...

[limber warren]

fr i wanna be able to dig trenches

even just a foxhole would be amazing

[frail shale]

Terrain deformation please

[cobalt agate]

Terrain deformation is such a ball ache to get to work right but it seem fun

[errant leaf]

that would be flippin amazing, they added this ability in arma 3 recently, i wonder if it could be achieved in reforger 🤔 would add an extra feature that no other milsim game has had and would be awesome for digging in on fields and beside roads

[stray frost]

There's a lot that had to be handled with it though. Like what if you dig under a tree? Does it fall? What about a house? What if you dig a hole into the side of a lake? The water isn't going to rush in. Not to mention a lot of Everon has giant rocks under it

[oak flare]

Those cases could be handled by not letting players dig in those places, just like you can't construct in those places.
I'm very curious how it could affect game-play. Would Conflict turn into a WW1/Ukraine style stalemate?

[errant leaf]

yes that is a major issue, maybe it is limited to certain terrain layers?

[errant leaf]

i have seen only a few of these scenarios in some gullies along fields, been quite nice battles

[frosty gulch]

Just make it so that you cant dig near these objects, 1m area or something 🤷‍♂️ I think this is the least problematic imop part

[stray frost]

So you can't dig fighting positions near roads, trees, bushes, buildings, water, or rocks.... which are the places you normally want to dig them because those are the places you want to defend. Not to mention the rock models are huge and all over the place.

[errant leaf]

yeah it is quite a complex issue, maybe limit it to certain terrain texture layers even? so no diggin through rock or concerete

[errant leaf]

i think maybe trees and bushes need to be cleared first before excavation

but the more we talk about it the more it sounds like it will turn arma into an engineering simulator

[cobalt agate]

Lol Arma: excavator edition

[errant leaf]

i mean BI did a tank racing game so you never know!

[cobalt agate]

ok u rite, u rite

[brisk brook]

Afaik there are no plans for terrain deformation

[gritty pawn]

With the way the conflict is vaguely designed, it would hardly change anything. It's not a fight for territory.

[errant leaf]

i think a gamemode like this would be cool, anyone hear played Rise Of Nations, the land borders move realtime based on military and economic presence, it would be a cool feature in a reforger gamemode

[gritty pawn]

Yeah, it would probably work better if the map was divided into a square grid, into some sectors.. and based somehow on "boots on the ground" and not on signal and teleportation.

[errant leaf]

yeah or even make it more natural looking with heatmaps of where players are their concentrations and how many assets they have as well as base fortification etc, and then draw natural borders based off this

[gritty pawn]

Combined with some functional AI it would be nice. But it's so sci-fi 🙂

[errant leaf]

yes but you could simplify it to just being a border that naturally moves around the map, i am not even sure if a feature like this would be possible to mod in

[gritty pawn]

There is nothing complicated about it, if you know how the game works, you know the script, you can do it in a few hours.

And there is no point in alternating the game mode because no one would play it anyway considering the number of players and fuctionality of BI workshop. Maybe in the future someone will edit it in a similar sense.

[stray frost]

The problem with this is that it removes stealth and gives information to players that they normally wouldn't have

[marble kindle]

Would sending crash logs via feedback tracker be beneficial ? Or is the crash reporter more than enough ?

[gritty pawn]

I guess, feedback tracker only makes sense if you have some additional information.

[livid nebula]

crash reporter is enough. If you have extra info put it in the text box in there

[stone kelp]

Have you guys been getting my pleas for Tobii Eye Tracker implementation in those crash reports? 😇

[marble kindle]

Aight 👍

[livid nebula]

Feature requests don't really belong into crash reports 🤔

[fresh ether]

I was playing around a lot in refroger, and I noticed that there is really nice animations when player/AI goes unconscious in vehicle, but when dies, it just get teleported outside. My feedback , it would be really nice to see them actually in same animation but dead in vehicle instead of being kicked out. It would add to realism. I hope i got channel right for report.

Same script (button in menu) for removing casualty would be nice addition to dead bodies, once Body is removed , it drops out in standard way

Edit: It would add to realism , given example once AI starts to drive, players make ambush once vehicle crash into tree nearby, they slowly aproach vehicle, while they should get some heavy machin-gun raining down on vehicle, to make sure people are dead inside, to have safe aproach to confirm , it adds a lot to realism

[errant leaf]

i agree, not sure why they didnt keep the animation?

[olive trail]

Yep, shooting a BTR with the m2 and seeing players popup from it like popcorn doesn't look good.

[solemn fossil]

its funny tho

[oak flare]

It's possible for three players working together to lay hundreds of mines in a few minutes. One player drives the Ural, while another drops a mine out from the truck every meter. You can either have a couple of players following the truck screwing in fuses, or just do it yourself after laying.

However, until now, I think I might have been the only player aware of this feature. Putting down a couple of hundred mines in Conflict sent people wild; they thought they must be dealing with a hacker or abusive admin.

[fair dove]

Actually here to post good feedback this time! My main server that fills up (32p) daily has been going for 77hrs straight with no crash! 🤯 🙂 Great job on server stability guys! Well done! 😎

[pure gyro]

Yeah I never have enough people with me to do stuff like that and I get paranoid that the mines will delete before I can arm them; same with vehicles on community servers lol sometimes the admins will clear vehicles while you are arming mines

[vocal linden]

Not unrealistic at all tbh

[olive trail]

A BIG issue that I don't see it mentioned a lot is how players take zero damage when the enter/exit vehicle animation is playing. Happens all the time.

[cobalt agate]

If it’s a replicatable issue the devs are likely already aware of it

[simple kindle]

iam pretty sure right now it would super hard to implement, because unconcious state = alive = still have authority over vehicle

and it might be some issue how to untangle the connection in case of character death

maybe with new authority system they are now working on will be possible

[errant leaf]

not really tbh

[half radish]

let fellas drag other unconscious fellas

[sonic adder]

Can't bind things to ctrl + key like in arma 3, such as binding compass to ctrl+mouse4

[thorny seal]

Yes you can

Try pressing ctrl first then the key

[stoic pasture]

I hope for this too, I'd suspect they'll add it in, if there isn't already a mod for it

Inventory is a bit arduous to navigate on a controller, mainly when on modded and there's are many items to sift through, I don't knownhow it could be made any better though to be fair.
Another thing is swapping out medical items into the hotbar is time consuming, so if I'm trying to heal a player and I've bandaged them and want to give them a hit of morphine, the process to switch out the bandage to the morphine is clunky, would be nice to have more slots for medical items, or something like a d-pad shortcut like with the binos oland map map (right dpad+A, etc), maybe use left d pad for medical items?

[calm slate]

Maybe something more like an "inventory tree"? So you see categories of items and click down? Would that be better? Dunno...

[stoic pasture]

Yea maybe, definitely more navigable for modded servers when there are lots of items. Guess it would be like you'd have your equipment box, then sub categories like rifles, pistols, scopes, attachments.

Maybe that'd be too busy on the screen too though?

Or maybe a radial menu pops up and you can navigate that way?

[gritty pawn]

It was a good idea to make one of the official servers per map PC only .

[stoic pasture]

Yea I'm surprised more of them aren't

[half radish]

in the mod manager, itd be nice to be able to shift-click to select things en masse and to press the delete key to delete multiple mods at once in the download tab

[hearty whale]

they should change conflict to be about map control instead of controlling a few select points
like for example on arland you would need to control mil training beauregard arleville and farm to win

[stoic pasture]

Or give GM's the option to alter objectives in conflict on the fly

[blissful sage]

The current rules and systems of Conflict feel like they'd be better suited to guerilla style fighting reminiscent of a mode like Antistasi rather than depicting an actual conflict between 2 peer enemies (with a 3rd local force thrown in for good measure).

Conflict as a mode IMO really needs systems and mechanics that work to its objective of depicting a Conflict, as opposed to the current half-antistasi state that it currently has. And I hope that it's reworked and maybe split into 2 modes (one akin to antistasi and the other a proper Conflict) in the future.

[rare pilot]

The roadmap states multiple changes coming to Conflict thatll make it feel better, as well as changes coming that arent on the roadmap like the supply update

[hearty whale]

rn its just that you fight on like 2-3 points on the map and the rest is always completely empty

they need to change it so people fight over the entire map and not just the same point over and over and over agian

like the military base on the eastern side of everon how many times has anyone ever fought around there in conflict i didnt even know it existed untill i flew over that area in gm

[gritty pawn]

If you don't play Everon north/south, someone will fight there.

[brisk brook]

I think we need more btr naval battles

[hearty whale]

i have nearly 500 hours in the game and i hjave not once seen someone fight there in conflict

[brisk brook]

Ussualy its just capped by whoever has nearby base.

[stray frost]

I feel like it needs to be narrowed down to fighting in one specific location at a time. It feels like a bunch of random people running around and occasionally running into one another rather than a battlefield

[marble kindle]

[brisk brook]

You have smaller conflicts avalible for everon

[real dome]

well pbs has that a lot of times

[real dome]

i think its more due to miscommunication since a lot of people dont talk or communicate

[stray frost]

Even Arland just feels like random people running around.

[stray frost]

Possibly but in public games communication is going to suck 90% of the time regardless. I just don't feel like there are enough people to make it feel right even on small maps like Arland.

[real dome]

depends really on games, on milsim games is usually much higher than other games, and currently a lot of the player base is not the kind that would could or care to communicate (mostly xbox)

[marble kindle]

The 64 playtest on Arland yesterday felt pretty good. But they're always the odd one out

[real dome]

for example squad is not on console and is pc only and a lot of servers people communicate a lot.

like majority servers do, its just a issue that right now the game has such a small and such a new playerbase to these kinds of games that you arent going to have good games most of the time, Thats why its almost impossible for me to play this game for long

[brisk brook]

Jump into arma3 pvp public games like koth, warlords etc, and tell me, is it bunch of ppl running around or is it all coordinated?

[stray frost]

Warlords gives you 2 objectives: 1 attack and 1 defend. Not 8.

[brisk brook]

True. Too many ppl go on global shouting random stuff thats happening near them, some talking in native language, and some asking how to open arsenal box.

[brisk brook]

And even then it feels like random ppl running around

[stray frost]

But at least it's random people running around at 2 objectives not 8

[hoary dragon]

When they’re casually speaking like it’s a party on 42

[zinc river]

Yeah, seems like they don't know that they can use proximity chat

or they think they are talking through proximity chat

[pure gyro]

Or the classic, "Who's on this channel?" while over platoon freq
or the, "I watched a youtube video on how to keep my mic on all the time, this is how I want it" while always over coms and not just prox lol

[fair dove]

or some guys TV blaring in the background while they have voice activation on... 🤦‍♂️ 🤣

[hoary dragon]

Or you can hear their personal conversations

[fair dove]

lol yeah yelling at their kids/parents

[brisk brook]

Heavy breathing...

[stoic pasture]

Literally just had to tell a guy off for that on PBS

Like dude, we don't wanna hear your asthmatic wheeze

[brisk brook]

He neess his oxygen intake

Another point here is: a way to set voice activation treshold

[foggy wyvern]

just get rid of the double tap to keep it active

oh and also fix the bug where holding a button gets canceled randomly

been a few times I was speaking over comms by holding the button to find out the game unpressed the button halfway through

[modern wind]

This happen ALWAYS with Long range radios, is a headhache to use one cause u forget all the time to open again the local voice

[pure gyro]

Make the AI detect players while they are INSIDE the bushes, it's still to easy to sit halfway in a bush and take cracks at AI anywhere over 5m away. I think it should only hide player from AI if you're fully on the other side of the bush/tree

[pure gyro]

Yeah I love to see this removed but for radio only. Sometimes when I'm walking with my pals I have to speak while in map and while typing or sometimes I talk while writing in my notepad IRL and it's nice not having to hold 'T' down 🤓

[stray frost]

You shouldn't even be able to go inside of a bush... at least not the middle. Make it like A3 where that stopped you.

[olive trail]

^

[pure gyro]

1st part I sort of agree with, second part hell no I hated getting killed by driving into a 1 ft bush in A3 what the fuck no

[olive trail]

I'm going to cry about 3rd person again, you've been warned.

So many players will just hide in a bush, and look around in 3rd person, until someone is near, then go out shoot them, then back on. It's like they have a UAV over their head at all time.

[pure gyro]

That explains why in 90% of all bush to bush encounters I win, because some monkey is playing with his aim at the ground while I listen to them shuffle around in the bush with my gun at their cocks

I dont care much about the PVP aspect of bushes, let me be uber clear

It's sad cheese vs AI they basically don't exist once you know how to approach each point

[main tide]

cant private servers force to 1st person view only?

[olive trail]

They can, but none does. We had a big influx of new players, and the servers have showed them that arma is a game that is played in 3rd person, instead of locking their server to 1st person, and introducing the new players to arma like that.

[pure gyro]

The level of mental gymastics you went through to end up with that answer is hilarious but okay.

[olive trail]

what are you on about

[fair dove]

Then rent a server and make it first person only. 😉 Personally I get motion sickness if I stay in 1pp for too long so I wouldn't join your server, but that's just me.

[solemn fossil]

both of the servers we run are locked in 1st person, 3rd person is cheese for reforger

[olive trail]

I would rather complain about how everyone is playing the game wrong

[fair dove]

My servers are pve so it's not as big a deal imho

[solemn fossil]

if you cant do pvp in 1st person only youre not that good at pvp

[rare pilot]

The only thing preventing most people from going 1st person only are the vehicles

[pure gyro]

So let me get this straight, you think, because the server owners prefer to have 3rd person enabled then that means they have told or 'shown' the new player-base that Reforger is a 3rd person game only? So you saying is all some server monopoly on how the game is played now? lol Just play how you like, where you want?

[olive trail]

I see that debate bro mod activated. go to sleep dude.

[foggy wyvern]

wait until you guys see what settings my monitor has for night time playing

[potent briar]

We SERIOUSLY gotta fix the mod manager bug. It occurs in both xbox and PC. Mods keep failing, and mod manager is incapable ( for some ) of deleting any files that have failed downloads or start download loops. Where it fails over and over again. Deleting all mods and redownloading DOES NOT always work. PLEASE FIX

[stoic pasture]

All I'll say on the above debate is that players should be allowed to play in the way they want to and if a server owner doesn't like to have 3rd person play then they don't have to have it, don't see why there even is a debate on it. Its just preferences of which we are all entitled to.

Anyway
I'm sure this is know already but when in GM and your character is not spawned in, when you go to open the context menu, it does not appear but you can still select the options. A bit frustrating when your trying to moderate.

[stoic pasture]

You can also go into arma vision and raise the camera slightly to peak all around you above the Bush. Now that's true cheese

Much worse than 3rd person

[rare pilot]

Ive seen people drive armored vehicles up to and against buildings, go into arma vision, and see through the walls of every single room to try and find where youre hiding at

[stoic pasture]

That's lame as fuck

[gritty pawn]

Built-in wallhack, perferct

[ionic vapor]

You can also use the building mode next to a supply truck to get a bigger free cam

[errant leaf]

radio wheel is still broken for me, i want the old one back it was smaller and worked

[solemn fossil]

old radio system was perfect

[errant leaf]

yep i dont like the wheel one bit, ever since it was introduced it has been the biggest pain

[solemn fossil]

Old system felt very intuitive, the wheel forces you to stop what youre doing to change channels/etc

[errant leaf]

yeah it obscures your whole screen and it doesnt work most of the time

i do think it would be cool if they added local battlefield sounds to the radio, that would be quite cool, you only get the effect with players that dont use headphones but lemme tell ya it sounds very immersive when the person using the radio has to yell over gunfire

[solemn fossil]

I havent had any issue with it not working but i have noticed that since it was implemented people just use platoon or default channels rather than trying to mess with it at all more often

Background noise coming through the radio would be cool af

[errant leaf]

yeah on PC you have to hold Ctrl, i do exactly that and it hardly ever works, sometimes i will manage to almost get to the frequency i need and it bounces me back to the start

i think everything EXCEPT the radio system has improved

[solemn fossil]

Its much easier on xbox, which it seems to be geared towards, but still not preferable to just using d-pad

[broken scaffold]

The old system was so much simpler definitely

[viral yoke]

Yes I have unfortunately also , is there anything new ?

[blissful sage]

One idea for (a version of) Conflict is to have it be a pure PvE mode with only 2 sides.

Players are all on one side, and only a limited set of points are active at any given time.

AI has a large number of bots, deployed in (at minimum) fireteam/section sized elements with squad sized elements being common.

Bots are only present at active points to ensure maximum bot density at conflicts (but immediately spawn at newly activated points to prevent steamrolls or cheesing).

[stoic pasture]

yea i agee, feels like they did it mainly for console as radial menus work great but as a console player the previous way was still much easier

[timber sparrow]

The VON and protractor controls will be changed, no modifiers will be needed.

[naive widget]

I just want to say the wild life is a nice step up from previous titles. I really hope the civilian population is given equal attention to detail.

[calm slate]

I think I've seen PvE Conflict community servers running

[stoic pasture]

Same ☝️

[errant leaf]

agreed, it puts arma above the rest in my opinion

i wouldnt complain

[zinc river]

I think there is a bug with keyboard hints on 1080p resolution. You know, when you ADS, there is a hint on bottom right to show what button is for changing ROF or zeroing.

The hint didn;t show up. Unless on 1440p or 4K monitor setting

Anyone else experience this?

[errant leaf]

i have had times where the UI has gone off the screen, but it was only when i used a mod so i dont think that counts

[noble beacon]

Maybe relates to

Playing in the fullscreen can cut the bottom part of the UI information for the weapons and turrets.

?

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/known-issues

[zinc river]

I see... probably that's it. Just weird because it shows up on 1440p and 4K but not 1080p. I was just testing VSR to decide whether to upgrade just monitor or I have to upgrade my GPU as well, then notice this issue.

[olive trail]

If you guys are familiar with the game SCUM. It has a system, in which players will not render unless you have a direct line of vision to them. I think this will be a great way to combat 3rd person peaking without locking the server to 1st person view only.

https://youtu.be/KYllohVEBJ4?si=27j1PPHbi0nq41C2&t=231 This is what I mean.

[rare pilot]

See I would love that
But just thinking of the lag it'll cause

The game has a hard time rendering stuff in the first place
Imagine if you round a corner and it takes four whole seconds for the Russian standing there to load in

[gritty pawn]

That's probably one of the dumbest features in an game I've ever seen 🙂

[foggy wyvern]

there's a difference between loading and rendering, you can keep the entire character in memory just make them invisible

[half radish]

id love to see an official chernarus port when the electrical grid comes around

[broken scaffold]

Putting the elektro in elektrozavodsk

[stray frost]

99.9% chance that isn't happening because that would be just as much work as Everon

[broken scaffold]

Sadly people are just gonna have to settle for the exceptionally good ChernarusReforged

[foggy wyvern]

please let me adjust the game's memory limit so the arsenal etc loads stuff quicker

[gritty pawn]

In 0.9.9.97 changelog is stated: "Fixed: Multiple issues with nametags". Classically, you "fixed" hanging nametags on the screen in such a way that randomly no nametags are visible. Congrats 🙂 Another forever bug 🙂

[rare pilot]

Better PID and know your friendly uniforms

[brisk brook]

Tbf, during playtest a name did get stuck on my screen (fren :D) but it got removed when i saw another.
And yes nametags did dissapear in later part of the scenario.

[real dome]

Aah thats impossible mate, i cant tell away from woodland and yellow

[brisk brook]

Do you need high contrast mode?

[rare pilot]

Mfw all my friendlies are color blind cause they mistake my grey and beige uniform for the enemies dark green uniform

[brisk brook]

Hey, hey, hey, they didnt choose to be colorblind, show a little compassion

[real dome]

Sorry i am color blind and shape blind.

[brisk brook]

Are you blind?

[rare pilot]

US backpack, M249, and M81 Woodland? Surely its a Russian

[brisk brook]

In an us uniform. Spy for sure.

[rare pilot]

That means the 3 dudes around him are Russian Spies in US gear as well

[real dome]

Im shapeblind

[brisk brook]

Damn them russians and their spy networks

[real dome]

I only identify through their skin color and face

[brisk brook]

So if i show you two shapes you cant tell diffrence?

[real dome]

If its a camoflauge pattern

[brisk brook]

What if it has no patteren?

[rare pilot]

Fun fact: If the player model is black, it cant be a Russian
There are no Black character models for the Russian faction in the vanilla game

So thats a surefire way of telling based off that aspect

[brisk brook]

Yeah, slam pointed that out many times

[rare pilot]

Thats good attention to detail

[brisk brook]

Also tbf i did do some teamkilling of my own in the heat of the battle. Post mortem investigation has show that they were all traitors or collaborators...

[rare pilot]

I too investigated myself and found nothing wrong

[real dome]

Not racist, just very good at distinguishing races😂

[real dome]

No pattern just looks the same as a pattern. Like the seams just connect

[brisk brook]

Good cause us uniform has pattern and soviet doesnt

[real dome]

With my disability they look the same

[brisk brook]

Very sad.

[real dome]

Yesh

[fair dove]

I see US guys with RPGs all the time. I'm surprised I haven't been court marshalled for killing them as a result of mistaken identity yet...

[gritty pawn]

The problem with the lack of nametags is mainly that you can't see who you're playing with and if you try to play in a team, they all look the same. No, in recognizing enemy uniforms.

I don't believe the nametags will ever be fixed, so for example you can make one character fat, another tall, dwarf, bearded, bearded dwarf and so on.

[errant leaf]

RPG for the win! the americans can keep their little green single use pipe!

[main tide]

i like the rpg if u want to be a dedicated AT. since its reusable. but until russians get the scope for the RGP7 atm its easier to range estimate with law at leat when it comes to vehicles ( hint google M72 law manual 🙂 and get to the bit on range scales)

[errant leaf]

yeah LAW is an interesting weapon tbh, although the illuminated sight like you mentioned easily gives away your position at night, i do usually equip one if i play US but it would be nice if you could carry multiple especially considering how light they are! i remember when they were an actual pipe tho without the rocket inside! happy the devs fixed that, i would definately like there to be a feature though that if you pressed r and it was empty there would be a throw away animation and it would drop it, would be a nice touch in my opinion, also i think the lock animation should be slightly slower, but thats my thoughts on the weapon 👍

[olive trail]

Currently, it is a different bind to drop it, which I personally find satisfactory.

[errant leaf]

oh i didnt know this, i will check it out

[main tide]

https://i.imgur.com/aI3U8IE.png

[errant leaf]

so the curved lines are lead markers, i didnt know this thx for the cool info 👍

[errant leaf]

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/23-25/23250015.GIF used to mount AN/PVS-4 night scope, now that would be really cool, i dont expect it from reforger due to the setting but i have never seen it in any other game, if the RPG is getting a scope then i think the law deserves this sort of love

[main tide]

may as well jsut get a carl gustav

an at4 is accurate for the era but its the same concept as law. Basically just a bigger warhead

[errant leaf]

i mean it was in OFP, at that point they might as well add an Igla just to test out lock-on targets to

[stray frost]

Toss in an M47 from A2OA for testing out wire-guidance too

[errant leaf]

why not 😂 tbh tho it is a very iconic US weapon, would also need to implement a movable bipod/tripod system that could be used for mortars and machinegunners that want to carry tripod

it would be nice once there is more functionality with bipods/tripods with small arms and the larger ones that are static at the moment

[errant leaf]

i will be upset if it isnt featured in A4

[stray frost]

Same. I wouldn't mind if they did the A2OA thing where it's just shoulder mounted too. Though I guess the bipod aspect would be nice to be added. Wonder how the AI will handle that though

[errant leaf]

hopefully it wouldnt be to hard for the AI to bipod a weapon, i guess they would only do so if they are safe and on a defensive order maybe?

[stray frost]

You'd need them to be able to do it on the offensive too though. I don't want to die because the only AT guy we had wouldn't set it up 😄

[errant leaf]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.78a3ec0962c31d2892308b697aa86b21?rik=zsU%2F%2FJ9CGLTjxA&riu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.military-today.com%2Ffirearms%2Fm72_law_l18.jpg&ehk=RO0tr59ZK2atUE08S2mnRlgFQ99spHx8rTbOoFGAIP8%3D&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0 this would be awesome for the US, it is built off the ALICE backpack system as well so it will fit in with the existing gear

[errant leaf]

yeah, the ai already do whacky things, like running out of cover to go heal a teammate out in the open, it just makes killing a whole squad of them a breeze

[stray frost]

Currently I don't think the AI even understand the concept of cover

[olive trail]

I've been informed a couple of days ago, that the 'make a free new account to bypass bans' is also possible on Steam. It's as simple as making a new account, and family sharing the game.

[errant leaf]

oh great 🤦 theres no escape from the trolls

[cobalt agate]

g
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at least now all the blame can’t be placed on xbox players 🤷‍♀️

[foggy wyvern]

wdym everyone knows pc players are the worst

[real dome]

ah yeah xbox players are saints, they make the games so enjoyable, everyone is so cordinated

[cobalt agate]

Can we agree that gamers are the worst no matter the platform

[pure gyro]

Hey at least you have to buy it at least once in order to be a little bastard on PC 😎

[cobalt agate]

Valid point lol

[hearty whale]

Did you find that out from me lol (maybe it wasnt my greatest idea to show the entire pbs server how to do that)

[foggy wyvern]

I wouldn't call that new

[olive trail]

ARREST THIS MAN 🔫 . Another guy said the same thing the other day, so not only you.

[vocal geode]

128 server is chilling give us 200 pop

[real dome]

128 player server with max ai?

[hoary dragon]

PBS is Everon now?

Good luck with 128 players ig

It’s actually running ok

[olive trail]

Match been runing for almost seven hours now, not a single crash. Although, the server got full at the ~three hours mark, before that it was 30 players only.

[hoary dragon]

Great to see the game being stable is Everon permant or is it for today only?

[olive trail]

Depend on how it do. The server with the small layout still avaliable and is also full. If players like this server, and is stable too, it will remain.

[hoary dragon]

Hopefully stays because I don’t like Arland🙏

[toxic vault]

my performance so far on 128 everon is pretty much on par with regular 64 arland, maybe 5-10fps drop in high pop areas in the city but hitreg and driving is still smooth, on pc using 3060ti

[errant leaf]

Nice, 1000 players when ? 😂

Lol I remember there were rumours around at start of launch saying enfusion wasn't able to handle even 32 players, meanwhile PBS

[hearty whale]

At the start it barely could do 32 half of the time lol

[foggy wyvern]

give server fps, player and ai count charts

also cpu model

[oak flare]

Last game didn't feel too bad until it crashed. Right now it's pretty much unplayable. Every action takes 5 seconds instead of being instant.

[olive trail]

same. I left when my fps dropped to 40.

[oak flare]

Do you know server CPU model?

[rare pilot]

Man, 40 fps is great compared to 4 years of playing Arma 3 at an average of 20 (same computer)

[olive trail]

No idea.

[gritty pawn]

With 40 FPS you can't hit anything in Reforger

[rare pilot]

Oh, you innocent, young souls

I remember slaughtering Ruskis en masse in the battle of Al Tabqah
At 8 fps

40 is above 30

30 is the minimum for smooth gameplay, that's what Console players play on

So having 40+ frames makes my Arma player heart swell

[gritty pawn]

Nice story, with 40 FPS you can't hit anything in Reforger..

[rare pilot]

False

I hit things easily at 20-60 FPS in Reforger

I smell a skill issue, and Modern Gamer entitlement

[olive trail]

You think lwo fps is your ally? You merely adopted the low fps. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see 60 fps until I was already a man, by then it was everything to me

[rare pilot]

^

Memey and perfect explanation of Arma 3 players in Reforger

You've never played Arma until you've done an OP that equivalates to a tactical slideshow

[hearty whale]

So true

From what im hearing i think theres a issue with restarting matches
The first round on 128 was perfectly smooth after the restart it went to shit
After the last update we also did 80 player arland and same issue first round perfectlt smooth second round completely broken

[main tide]

Yeah for sure having more fps for close quarters combat is beneficial

[foggy wyvern]

I still remember back in the days of ofp low fps meant you could phase through walls

[main tide]

lol power bits has been stable with 64. now they are doing 128 everon. wew lad

what does PBS do that thier servers are more stable then official BI serivers?

actuall scratch that. i logged in and just pulling stuff out of the inventory takes like 5-10 seconds.

[fair dove]

Probably just on better hardware

[main tide]

peoples mics are also lagging. Yeah ig 128 i still too much

[foggy wyvern]

those issues start to happen on modern hardware at like 50+ players

[fair dove]

That can also be a client side thing unless it's happening to everyone

[main tide]

i havent taken notice of it tho. in past pbs 64 player server, even when it was near full

[foggy wyvern]

might be better without ai tho

like my server can run on 60 fps but the voice and some other stuff will still lag

either my fiber is too slow or something is bottlenecking network updates, maybe streaming settings, but adjusting them to super high values did nothing for me

[gritty pawn]

64 slot PBS had huge lags when I tried it after .97 update, far from stable

Anyway, official 32 slot servers lags also, esp. after last patch

[main tide]

its been fine for me. PBS just happens to have more ping then official NA servers, but maybe its in Europe and not NA

[foggy wyvern]

once you get out of the bad single thread performance on your server you get bottlenecked by the server itself

[errant leaf]

i play 40-50 fps on average, i would consider it smooth

[errant leaf]

can relate, what a low spec journey some of us have had!

[errant leaf]

i do love how reforger fixes this, i dont feel that the powerpoint slideshow battles are as fun 😆

[olive trail]

@stray frost The more I think about how fast it is to get the rpg out, aim and shoot, then reload it at the speed of light in arma, the more those squad changes feel attractive to me.

[stray frost]

Yeah I do sometimes wish that reloading was a bit more realistic in Arma. I need to watch some videos of the new setup. I know people were review bombing it over the changes

[main tide]

i know its not specifically on the roadmap but i think its a missed opportunity to not add flares for the M203. It can shoot M583/M583A1 and M585 illumination flares

[rare pilot]

HuntIR too for that matter with a full CTAB and helmet cam system to boot

[errant leaf]

yes switching to launchers and accuracy and reloading are way to fast and easy

[main tide]

40mm illumination flare grenades are cold war era.....

[rare pilot]

Oh sorry, thought we were talking about random wishes and desires that the devs aren't going to make

[main tide]

it falls in line with flare gun and mortar flares

except well uhh in the form of being shot out from the underbarrel m203

[errant leaf]

yeah we need more things to shoot out of the m203, smoke would be cool too!

[main tide]

^

[gaunt marsh]

I think flares should've been added already. Night fighting is almost impossible when AI can hit you with pinpoint accuracy from 300m away but you can't even see 5 feet in front of you.

[errant leaf]

i agree, it would be a stupidly easy thing to impliment as well, bacon had flares in his GM effects mod that was launched ages ago

[crisp widget]

recent updates had some stuff wrt particle lights, I expect flares might have something to do with that. Reforger can already have a lot of dynamic light sources which look pretty cool, but are limited in illumination area. When adding flares, the light would cover a bigger area, and potentially there could be many flares at any time in a given location. So I imagine it’s not easy to keep the performance good, while also making sure they look adequately awesome. Hence we wait.

[errant leaf]

yeah lighting isnt a problem now, does reforger even have a light limit at all?

[crisp widget]

dunno, looks like it can do a lot. Just guessing, it’s maybe doing deferred shading, and light volumes, to be able to handle all these light cones: https://learnopengl.com/Advanced-Lighting/Deferred-Shading

that’s an optimisation that can let you do loads of lights. But the benefits of this optimisation drop to zero if the radius of these lights becomes large, as they would with some flares in the sky.

which is maybe part of the reason the flashlights etc have such small cone rn

[crisp widget]

personally, can’t wait for vehicle collision damage, as that will affect gameplay massively, hopefully, by reducing rushing over the map, if it both breaks an axle and injures your character when hitting a rock - but probably it’s trickier to implement than is observable from the surface, hence we wait

[errant leaf]

yeah i will need to change my playstyle once that comes in! rn i drive like its a mad max movie

[frosty gulch]

yes I agree, same with underbarrel grenade launcher. Squads overhaul in Arma would be dope, mby just a bit less to make it easy for our console friends but yeah

[olive trail]

Would be pretty cool if the smoke from grenades, and other explosives lingered for longer than a second.

[errant leaf]

some more particle detail for smoke would be nice as well like in squad

[main tide]

none of the vehicles drive fast enough for it to be mad max level. all of these 80s era cars make 21st century era vehicles look like racecars

[hearty whale]

Maybe witht the frag but smooe grenades already last ages

[modern shell]

My feedback account is blocked, did I do something wrong?
How to unblock?

[livid nebula]

Send name of your account to me
Usually only spam bots get blocked

[modern shell]

https://feedback.bistudio.com/p/GlutenFreeVapes/

[livid nebula]

I cannot see any reason for why you are disabled.
I enabled your account again. Sadly we don't have any logs for that stuff

Ah nevermind we do have logs.
Geez disabled your account on sept 20th. Exactly at the time as they deleted the comment of a spam bot here: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172544

[naive widget]

Friendly fire...

[olive trail]

The admin UI has this small list of players to the right bottom corner. It is useless if your server has more than 30 players.
It's too small, can't change the size of it. Doesn't have a search function. The players are not in alphabetical order. It doesn't even shows which team most players belongs to. There are blur players, red players, and grey players.
Finding someone in it is too time consuming.

[gaunt marsh]

Been having a lot of instances where I'm dying after leaving a vehicle. It used to be every once in a while but now it seems to happen way more often. Especially with the troop transport trucks when getting out of the back. It's happened with and without the vehicles being on.

[errant leaf]

once we finally get helicopters it would be awesome if we got medivac variants and maybe even a sling load system like in arma 3, i think it would work well with the new logistics system the devs have spoken about

[errant leaf]

it was a rather cool helicopter! especially with the black paintjob

[pure gyro]

Yeah I thought it was fixed since the update I had way less but now it's getting just as bad as before update. Mind you I notice it most when hopping out of the US Ambulance or the modded JLTV, but it is most heartbreaking when doing logistics and your supply vehicle is left to either despawn by the time you get back due to either the 10 mins delete bug or the shitty servers settings clearing all unused vehicles every 30 seconds

[hearty whale]

They need to add the transport pod that takes zero fall damage like in a3

[fair dove]

please consider activating the "say" command for rcon, Id love to be able to chat with players like in arma3/dayz bercon.

[quiet beacon]

Workable and ridable Trains? That be pretty fun as another transportation around the map, if not in this game maybe for the 4.

I also Love to see some more immersion added into the game like with Environmental update. Maybe Cows, Sheep, Goats and some that will attack if you get too close instead of always Humans. Great example here in the UK we get attacked by a cow if we go into the fields of them, Reforger or 4 can have this as well so the players gotta be on the look out of what fields to cross. This can be a togglable feature that can be added. It can also alert OPFOR as well like the birds do... much to play around with animals within the game.

[hearty whale]

Trains sound cool but the map is waay to small for them

[quiet beacon]

Yeah something to experiment with ig as thats what Reforger is all about

[hearty whale]

Maybe if we get a altis remake or smt it could be added into that

[quiet beacon]

Yep, 100%

[hearty whale]

I think bigger supply trucks could be cool thi

Like carrying 2k supplies instead of 1k but you only get them really late game

[quiet beacon]

Yeah, I just want bigger things icl

But the way the dev team is going is really cool, more immersiation and life instead of "a person put in a world without any life" and then the things not implented in yet. Thinks its gonna be cool, they need to keep adding Enviroment stuff in to make it even better!

[hearty whale]

I dont even know how trains would fit on a map as small as everon you really need the plains of altis to have them

[neon ingot]

It would be nice if there was a building that would give you resources from time to time, and that it would have to be connected to the main base through the other bases, that the building would cost 2000 resources or something like that, I think this would enhance base captures more and supply runs, sometimes it feels like capturing bases is completely pointless, this would make them a little more meaningful as a strong position.

[zinc river]

Isn't the FIA supply depot fulfill that role?

[neon ingot]

No

[foggy wyvern]

you must construct additional pylons

[real dome]

When helis come and flares come, make it an ability to drop flares from the heli just like in a3

[real dome]

Or grenades and smokes

[frail shale]

Bigger maps for better combined warfare

[cobalt agate]

There is not a high enough player count for that

[olive trail]

Make one 500 players official server, and close everything else

[charred axle]

Tbh the playable DayZ servers are pretty good I dislike the church of Uwu but the rest is great

[true citrus]

#FixHitReg

[errant leaf]

yes i think ritreg should be the next system the optimize

[hearty whale]

Give the humvee gunner a shield

[frosty gulch]

yes and animations for reloading

[violet vale]

im no expert, but ive been told that it wouldnt be period-accurate

[real dome]

i think they started puttin shields after 1991 or 2003 invasions, but not arma reforger time

according to armymil around 2005

https://www.army.mil/article/50173/continuous_army_innovation_yields_improved_gunner_protection

[violet vale]

seriously though, why? 😄 how did they not think about that before? M113 had it.

its like french tanks not having gun stab untill the 1990s 😄

[real dome]

Maybe all of the designers forgot when there wasnt war

[hearty whale]

But inarma reforge rthere is. Awar so it make sense they would add it

[real dome]

arma reforger doesnt have shields on the humvees

[hearty whale]

Thats why they shoukd add it

[real dome]

just explained that its not time accurate

[hearty whale]

In our timeline the humvee got a shield during the major war in arma reforger there is. A major war so instead the shield would have been made there

Soldiers still run into the same issues leading to the same solution

[real dome]

1989= conventional war, 2 superpowers against each other, 2005 insurgents vs superpower.

[olive trail]

It's a different universe. The game designer restricting themselves by the year is not needed. Especially for such a trivial thing.

[hearty whale]

Exactlty is literally alt history

[frosty gulch]

Agree

[hoary dragon]

Might as well have hovercraft then if we aren’t being historically accurate 🤷‍♂️

[real dome]

yeah lets start adding btr 82a since thats the same as btr 80 hull

[zinc river]

The rivet counters will revolt... just like 2035

[olive trail]

: let's have shield on humvees
: how about hovercrafy and star destroyer

[hoary dragon]

Neither exist in the time period

[real dome]

mods can add it, but its not historically accurate

[hearty whale]

Shields for gunners were already a thing on other us vehicles its very easily explainable they would put it on a humvee too

[hearty whale]

Its already not historicall accurate that there is a war between america and russia

[hoary dragon]

Humvee shields like slamsgt came after the Cold War

[real dome]

🤦‍♂️ Doctrine

[frosty gulch]

Not sure but someone also mentioned that US had no scopes on M16s at this time also ?🤔

[real dome]

Vehicles have different uses.

[hearty whale]

Cause armies are famously known for addapting in zero ways to wars

[real dome]

in vietnam they did have the colt 3x20

[hoary dragon]

We are in 1989 though no humvee shields exist so no humvee shields should be added

[hearty whale]

I think they did but scoped werent as readily available as today

[frosty gulch]

ohh ok

[hearty whale]

I mean we have had scopes since the 1800s

[real dome]

The point of arma is modding, if you dont wanna have accurate game then just make a mod.

[olive trail]

1989 when the US troops had direct conflict with Soviet troops. I missed that one in history class.

[hearty whale]

Alot of armies today still have issues with equipping their army with scopes i think the us was one of the first ones to give most troops one

[hoary dragon]

1989 where humvee shields magically spawned

[olive trail]

More believable

[hoary dragon]

Might as well have a T90M then

[frosty gulch]

If we cant have shields AT LEAST LET US DUCK and Blind fire

[olive trail]

Again with the hovercraft

[real dome]

look, by your definition, we should have every new version of every vehicle just because the modern times has it. Its like saying, lets go invade poland in 1939, but with king tigers.

[hearty whale]

Shields arent a new fucking technology

[real dome]

have you ever heard of military doctrine tho.

[hearty whale]

They existed in 1989 just not for the humvee making one for the humvee is very plausable in 1989

[brisk brook]

They are going for time period appropriate gear, in a made up conflict. (In said time)

[hoary dragon]

It’s the same thing both don’t exist

At the time

[real dome]

ford if you want shields, then just make or use a mod for it. idk why its hard to not comprihend it

[olive trail]

What a stupid take

[hoary dragon]

💀

[frosty gulch]

Lets us duck mby then?

or soldiers were fearless back then

[hearty whale]

Again doctrine would have been changed if the us only had humvees as their armores vehicle during a war with russia

[real dome]

last time i check the soviets dont hide in houses and arent a small force with mostly just infantry

[hoary dragon]

Let’s have BTR 80 then instead of 70 cause soviet doctrine would adapt

[olive trail]

The way you guys think is certainly interesting. It's literally just a shield

[real dome]

Look at invasion of panama and tell me if they have shields in the humvees.

[hearty whale]

A shield isnt a alien its very realistic that the us would have put shields on humvees in the event of a war with russia
Theres 0 chance fucking aliens would have shown up

[frosty gulch]

Mby thats why devs are extra careful, just take a look how people got triggered cuz of a MG shield

[hoary dragon]

So let’s have a BTR 80 cause the Soviets would also adapt to this🤷‍♂️

[violet vale]

yeah I didnt mean to start that 😄

theres no objectivly good answer IMO. toe ach their preferences

[frosty gulch]

Let us duck on a MG mby?

[real dome]

aiming up doesnt duck you down?

[hearty whale]

With alt history things still would have to make sense within the time
Shield existed in 1989
Aliens have not visited the earth in 1989

[frosty gulch]

Not a proper duck

[hearty whale]

Give us 20 thousand f16s in the air and you got a deal

[violet vale]

im in no position to say that itll happen, but that would be cool indeed

[real dome]

Equipment wise the game is accurate, not lore wise, you are trying to justify the lore wise and the equipment wise as the same.

[olive trail]

They extend their arms instead of ducking when on the m2. no?

[hearty whale]

Add nukes bohemia🥺🥺🥺

[olive trail]

shield... nukes. crazy stuff

Everyone is using hyperdrive to jump on shit

hyperdrive, jumpdrive, gravdrive.

[real dome]

Anyways, basically if you want the game to be your way, then just use mods

everyone will disagree on something

and we should just leave it at this due to this being the wrong channel for this.

[olive trail]

The simple explanation is, it will look cool as fuck (which no one can deny), and it will be better for gameplay. And no one who doesn't already jerk off to history books, will even care.

[hearty whale]

Not every us soldier was equipped with scopes not every soldier had a grenade launcher that magically never broke

[real dome]

well a lot of arma players like history, especially on pc

[hoary dragon]

If I wanted fiction I’d play BF 2042 not arma

[olive trail]

Well remind me to not barrow a history book from any of you nasty people

[real dome]

there you go

[hearty whale]

Dont let bro know anout arma 3s setting

[real dome]

no need to be triggered mate.

[olive trail]

oh no, im triggered

[real dome]

Have you ever heard of CDLC's and mods?

[hoary dragon]

2035 is different though it was 20 years in the future so you obviously have more freedom for fiction

[hearty whale]

Oh yea the dlcs that suck 90% of the time but then theres praire fire that slaps

[real dome]

tell me how many cdlcs are from cold war.

[hearty whale]

Im pretty sure all but the ww2 one and the modern one

[violet vale]

guys, the conversation is going way out of scope of #reforger_feedback at this point.

[hearty whale]

I only played praire fire in cdlcs

[real dome]

this

[hearty whale]

Even praire fire took liberties with making nv scopes available to everyone

[hoary dragon]

Ban speaking on enemy radios

The amount of times people just started playing music etc

[real dome]

There is a fix for that and its called having admins

[hoary dragon]

Admins let them do it I know who did it but I think they’re too close with the admins so nothing will be done

It was PBS

[gritty pawn]

PBS is a server for very undemanding players

[olive trail]

dude, you dm me to deal with it. drugs are expensive as shit these days, i have to work.

[foggy wyvern]

radio jamming lol

[real dome]

Pbs has toxic people and their moderating is very lacking, but i mean arma reforger doesnt give much tools to take care of them. One issue is the people who make new accounts

[errant leaf]

there are some interesting fellas that come through PBS, but when the admins are on it is always a good time 👍

[real dome]

👌

[oak flare]

Big problem with PBS is there are no admins in the USA, so after the admins go to bed the server is plagued with American racists and teamkillers.

[errant leaf]

when that happens you just find a competent group of people mute main freq, then go do objectives yourselves

[oak flare]

Unfortunately my Black American friends won't play PBS anymore; no desire to when you can play on any other popular server and not encounter the same issue.

[main tide]

4x20s were in inventory. theres even a picture of a marine using that cold war vintage 4x20 scope during the 2003 OIF

[main tide]

what about more beefy hardtop humvees? ive read that there were something called a "supplemental armor package" that existed in the time frame. It would optionally installed be to reinforce the Doors with a thin layer of Steel, because the standard "X" doors weren't even made of metal. the Steel overlay gave them a smooth look instead.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/hmmwv-door-skins-set-humvee-1837040860

still wasnt able to stop rifle rounds afaik. Rangers in mogadishu complained about these doors not being able to stop AK rounds, and only did so in instance when thier bullet resistant windows were rolled down.

[main tide]

for the 2nd time mind you. dont forget the first everon flashpoint in 1985

[zinc river]

If I remember correctly, Guba kinda went Rogue, so they are not 'actually' Soviets... Or I maybe was wrong.

[broken scaffold]

No they were rogue in ofp, though from the "clashes in europe" I would say with a degree of confidence that nuclear war is imminent

[foggy wyvern]

correct mr guba was trying to prove himself to the soviets or something like that me thinks

[broken scaffold]

Was he stupid?

[foggy wyvern]

yes, he thought he could win against gastovski

what a donut

gastovski is basically solid snake, you dont win against the guy

[broken scaffold]

Ok so who wins, Miller or Gastovski

In that hypothetical, I mean

[foggy wyvern]

I bet on gastovski, the guy basically single handedly kicked the enemy's butts while nato forces were just background noise

[timber sparrow]

No doubt, Gastovski.

[ornate marlin]

I place my bets on Miller, considering his power level in the easter egg

[main tide]

the Automatic Ranging is missing from the Art 2 scope of the m21 sws. is it planned to model that feature by the end of reforger roadmap?

to quote https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/us-army-m21-sniper-rifle/367709 "this optic allowed a sniper to easily range a man by zooming the magnification in or out until he fit between two marks on the reticle. Simultaneously the magnification ring cammed the scope up or down, automatically adjusting the range. So all the sniper had to do was bracket his target (which automatically adjusted the elevation), adjust for wind/lead and fire. "

m21 rifle manual as more precise primary source of instruction https://canadian-ukrainian-brigade.org/documents/manuals/Military Pdf Manuals/Sniper/US Army M21 Sniper Weapon System 16p.pdf

[rare pilot]

Read the Field Manual, theres an entry dedicated to ranging with scopes and binoculars using math

[main tide]

i shouldnt have to considering the functions of the ART scope.

[rare pilot]

"Adjust the magnification until their torso matches the width of the bars. Multiply the magnification by 100 and you will have a range in meters"

Thats also the intended magnification to be shooting the target at

So if the bottom of the torso and the top of the head line up at 3.9 magnification, theyre 390 meters out (Range 400 and aim for the upper neck)

And you should shoot them at 3.9 magnification

[main tide]

then the scope isnt modelled correctly because by that guidline i have a target zoomed in x9.... that would mean i have to range it out to 900m. yet im shooting way over. I had to manuall ( trial by error) zero to 600 meters before i got a headshot ( was aiming for upper torso)

maybe thats for the SVD......

[rare pilot]

Works for me, I just did it

[main tide]

doesnt work for me. must be playing differnet games

[rare pilot]

#videos_arma

[main tide]

arma 3......

[rare pilot]

Arma 3?

[main tide]

in any case doesnt matter im making appoint about a scope feature not being modelled, and pointing it out/ inquiring if it will be added at some point.

[rare pilot]

Self ranging the ART-2 scope?

[main tide]

no i mean the elevation of the scope self adjusting. the M21 manual says the sights themself should be zeroed at 300m, but that aparently zeroing the sights isnt nessesary after ranging process. because its supposed to do it by itself. " When turning the power ring to adjust the target’s image to the reticle, the sniper is also turning the ballistic cam. This raises or lowers the scope itself to compensate for elevation. Therefore, once the scope’s magnification is properly adjusted in proportion to the target’s image, the ballistic cam has at the same time adjusted the scope for the proper elevation needed to engage the target at that range."

because in arma reforger if my scope is still zeroed at 300m even if i estimate the range correctly shots will still fall short of target. IE adjust my zeroing for 600 if i ranged the target at roughly that range, SO i can line up the crosshairs and have the bullet land where i planted the crosshairs

unless im misunderstanding the manual

[rare pilot]

Ohhh
Thats be ALOT of extra animation work that Bohemia isnt ready to handle
They cant even get the weapon mounting animation to work prone

[foggy wyvern]

wat like movement of the scope? the m16 irons are animated moving up and down i think, doesnt sound like too much work

[naive widget]

600 meters. Were you standing and moving or wounded? Are these vanilla weapons and attachments? And other mods your using? This effects aim and accuracy of your character.

[olive trail]

Instead of blue being my team, and red being the enemy team on the killfeed. Can we make it so blue is always US and red is always Soviet.

[real dome]

Nvm misread

[olive trail]

Having mute and block be persistence between matches and servers would be a great quality of life update.

[restive bramble]

Did anyone notice weapon rest works strange? You may need to do a good dancing around to find a spot for a weapon. I would expect the weapon rest algorythm to be less selective for the surface.

[gritty pawn]

Like most features, they first make some basic semi-functional version and try or not try to make it work in some way with a horizon of several years. The chance that it will ever actually work in all cases is rather small.

[coral blaze]

Is it possible to receive rolled sleeve uniform variants into the arsenal, and also get the two hidden Soviet helmets (Net, Camo) into the base arsenals? Would be really cool tbh

Also, genuinely: could a function be integrated that prevented enemy faction from speaking on platoon frequency and only on squad channels? i personally see a lot of micspam / stupidity in conflict only occur on the major frequencies

[solemn fossil]

supposedly radio encryption is coming in some form. the way it will be implemented will have solving that problem in mind (according to BI) but no details on it have been released. RHS has a really nice AN/PRC-152 which supports encryption and way more channels than base game so its definitely possible

[errant leaf]

would be a cool aspect of warfare that bi could further expand on

[stone bronze]

Please don't do this to me 😢

[ornate marlin]

Do it for the memes

[hearty whale]

it would be so funny tho

[errant leaf]

RHS Arma 3 had a nuke, was so fun to use

[olive trail]

The bug where you can't join any group, and have to make a new group has been too prevalent since the update.

[errant leaf]

yep i get this all the time, very inconvenient

[slow cradle]

same i still cant do it

[slow cradle]

and this, but it mainly happens in community servers

[nova shuttle]

is this where i can report bugs?

[simple kindle]

workaround is that you can still use group menu by pressing "P" and you can join any group

[nova shuttle]

can someone make it day on server

[errant leaf]

no, use darkness to your advantage my friend

[nova shuttle]

no fun my friend

maybe after eletricity update

[errant leaf]

the electricity will be nice, i can finally gib the enemy light switch epilepsy when they try to breach my house!

[nova shuttle]

yes sir

[errant leaf]

flares will be amazing as well, i hope there is handheld, throwable, pistol and GL variants

[nova shuttle]

yes

[errant leaf]

it will be cool seeing people having to hide behind trees and vegetation to stay out of the flares lit area, so many more tactical situations, arma 3 flares were quite average but with reforgers new lighting system i can already tell it is going to be awesome once they do come

[pastel grail]

whenever playing reforger my gun/weapon sounds seem to happen consistently only after the first shot that takes like a second delay to be audible. is this a known bug? will try to take a video of this

[brisk brook]

Buffering...

[marble kindle]

Would be nice if the antenna reconfiguration had an animation that makes you vulnerable without friendlies covering you. Another reason to not just drive around capturing bases all on your own

Twisting some knobs to change the frequencies etc.

[errant leaf]

yep happens to everyone, bc it needs to load the sound file i am guessing, but the same thing happens with all sounds and environment assets

[pastel grail]

sounds like sth that should be easy to fix, i hope. if not i create a mod that plays every sound at mission start at once just to load it into RAM 😂

[calm slate]

You mean kinda like the "old days" of re-configuring radios to capture a base?

[calm slate]

Report bugs here on the feedback tracker https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/66/

[marble kindle]

No no. I mean I think that wouldn't be a bad idea either, that would encourage team play aswell. But I meant the stationary transmitter towers, an animation for those

Right now you can hold F, crouch down and aim around for anyone approaching. It should leave you vulnerable though, like throwing a grenade.

[vocal geode]

@arma fix the servers i beggg

[calm slate]

Ah. You could say the same for loading/unloading supplies from a truck

[calm slate]

Explain?

[vocal geode]

the constant server wide disconects

cant run a full conflict game without 5 server DCs and having to restart

[olive trail]

I hate holding keys for more than a second to preform any action. Hate it in every game, across genre.

[calm slate]

Since the last update I think, in general players have found servers to be way more stable. I probably get a crash or disconnect maybe once every 2-3 hours on average. Are you playing modded servers or Official? Use this for feeback: https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/66/

[vocal geode]

powerbits

[brisk brook]

powerbits is not ran by Bohemia Interactive

[vocal geode]

back end is tho, the actual code is

[olive trail]

we run 64 arland if you are looking for stable. the high number everon server exist specifically for masochist.

[potent briar]

Failed download mod manager loop bug still isn't not fixed passing 2 updates

[olive trail]

Every time I leave the truck and get back in, my avatar will flip the ignition to turn the engine on, even when it is already on.

[marble kindle]

Yeah that's been a bug ever since the new vehicle simulation

It's all sorts of broken. Sometimes I can even hear an engine turn on when my driver takes off in the car, yet they didnt even use the key yet

[eternal cove]

Not sure whether right thread or whatever;
arma "veteran" here, and kinda of sick of goddam griefers;

Is there any way of blocking for example some xbox users that abuse the kick system (they reconnect right after kick, 30 min ban not working)?

maybe rewoking copy / licence of their game or whatever?
Impossible to play;

Casing point: start of match ( 20 min earlier), 1 griefer destroys all the VEHICLES - technically not a TK, so no penalty for TK -, and whole server can't seem to get together to kick the griefer..

[gritty pawn]

That's probably the intended gameplay considering that BI doesn't do anything about it. About half a year ago, they were bragging that it was a priority to solve it, but absolutely nothing happened.

Sad story.

[eternal cove]

guess what... happened again (new restart)

[rare pilot]

Play community servers not official
Those have admins

[fallen bobcat]

I'm an Xbox player and I know what you mean. There are griefers everywhere.

Honestly we need to start banning IP addresses for at least a month.

[calm slate]

We've been complaining about this for as long as I can remember. Nothing from BI. Apparently they are "working on it" but who knows. Its incomprehensibly utterly ridiculous they don't give players the power to effectively kick trolls/griefers/TKers

Its the single biggest flaw in the game now, IMHO...but don't worry, we have butterflies now! Ooh! So pretty! LOL...

[errant leaf]

would be cool if the islands population of bees would target anyone with Rogue rank 😆

[calm slate]

Brilliant solution! The birds could join in too!

[shut holly]

Please, I beg of you. If there any devs listening. Please. PLEASE. Fix the Controller ADS. It's been the same since launch.
It eye zooms every time you ADS. It completely ruins gunfights especially considering how often you need to ADS and un-ADS

https://streamable.com/mfgyuu

[zinc river]

Isn't there FOV setting ingame when you ADS? I set mine at 0%. So you wont zoom in when you ADS

[fair dove]

Can you guys steal the JIP queue code from dayz and add it to reforger? Or are you waiting for something like reserved/priority slots to be ready first?

[limber warren]

#videos_arma message

plz add the ability for items to become damaged like in dayz i think it would fix alot of the "hit reg" issues

or just make it so guns and binoculars aren't bullet proof

[zinc river]

Sometimes I experience when reloading, the sound play faster than the animation. Like in M16 the sound when removing the magazine and loading it again not synced properly.

Then when doing a full reload (empty mag/chamber) I have to press R twice because the round is not chambered when reload the magazine. Like press R first to reload the mag (the sound play all that, still not sync to animation) after the mag is reloaded, have to press R second time to release the bolt to chamber the round

[errant leaf]

i was wondering how you console folks deal with that! having no control over your focus must be super annoying, how do yall freelook?

[shut holly]

I forgot how freelook works, haven't played in awhile. It's not that bad but not very intuitive either. Honestly the first time I stopped playing was when they redid the controller configuration last year or something. I hated it lol.

[limber warren]

wdym by full pull / soft pull

[errant leaf]

i am guessing it is the speed at which you pull the trigger button

[solemn fossil]

its how far you depress the trigger. partial pull will result in "focusing", with the zoom intensifying as you depress, while full depression of the trigger will ads

[limber warren]

im on pc so thats not possible

[real dome]

just think about it

[shut holly]

Oh sorry I didn’t mean to respond to you, no idea how I did that. My bad for causing the confusion

[shut holly]

This issue is caused by input detection. Soft pull vs full pull of the trigger. Soft pulls activate eye zoom, and the zoom level is based on how much the trigger is pulled. This works even when not ADSing. So when you do a full pull, it also registers the soft pull that takes place as you make the full pull. Which, it should not do. There should be a threshold of time where a soft pull is not registered so it doesn't misfire.

[zinc river]

I see... its a problem for analog input I guess?

[shut holly]

Yes. And it makes combat suck because it zooms when you enter ADS and when you leave ADS. It’s super jarring and clunky on top of that. You either deal with it or walk around with your left trigger held, fully zoomed in whenever you wanna fight lol

[quick bone]

Hi so I was flying the helicopters on pc and I wanted to ask if the devs can make the flight controls more responsive on mouse and keyboard also hotas support would be great and thank you for adding them in the game it was much needed

[timber sparrow]

The joysticks are not supported yet. We have issues with input handling that have to be resolved first.
How do you envision the flight control responsiveness improvements?

[quick bone]

the mouse sensitivity is a bit slow then using wasd I like the arma 3 mouse sensitivity for the flight controls but Im having a lot of fun flying them right now 🙂

[timber sparrow]

Alright, thank you.

[fierce rune]

I am seeing alot of stuff missing when open my map in the experimental tools, like alot lot roads missing that are there on the current version on stable and houses forrests and such stuff

[thin drift]

Just gonna say, as someone who has a lot of issues with the game this is a major step in the right direction

[nova shuttle]

a lot of bugs in relation to supplies and building

[marble kindle]

[stoic pasture]

People have been having issues too with supplies where they cannot unload them, like across the entire player base rather than individuals

[quick bone]

so in my game right now we emptied every supply depot in arland and now no one can get supply to build anything haha

[stoic pasture]

a player had a issue where they could not exit the map when in the co-pilot seat, could not open pause menu to respawn either.

[warm cypress]

the stick flags are currently bugged, the fia and ussr ones just turn into us flags

[stoic pasture]

gm radial menu sometimes will not show options

[stoic pasture]

would it be possible to get a red internal light for the heli's? for night flying

[quick bone]

another good feature to have for pilots is to have your speedo and altitude gauges in first person in the cockpit

like in arma 3

[brisk brook]

You do. All of them work

[quick bone]

Im saying like how they do it in 3rd person unless you can and its in the more advanced options

if you know what I mean

[brisk brook]

If you go fps, you are supposed to look at actual gauges, just like in car. Hud ones are only in 3rd person

[marsh comet]

I think we need glove slots, the pilot is not complete without nomex flight gloves

[neon ingot]

The supplies on experimental are cool but the system is completely broken

[nova shuttle]

yes its experimental

[icy vessel]

The new quick slot keybinds on controller is awful, please dont implement it

[neon ingot]

Is there any option for deactivate FIA bots but for keep bots on USA and Soviet team to for example recruit bots on barracks on the experimental version?

[oak flare]

Not in config. But a mod could do it.

[quick bone]

The new supply system actually causes more people to argue who gets a helicopter, whos wasting supplies on helicopters and who gets to fly them. Its turnings people to become absolute ferals and creates a lot of toxic behaver on the server, it probably doesn't help that the supply depots are not unlimited anymore too

[frosty gulch]

I think that this will be very hard to fix with no roles, mby commander update will help a bit.

and mby when helis require a higher rank it will be better

[ruby oasis]

can suppliers be a conflict only thing, it’s kinda a pain in combat ops and gm

[quick bone]

I think if they made supply depots unlimited it also creates a
situation were people can be happy knowing that they get to do what they want to do in the game and it reduces the arguments and toxic behaver. You don't have to worry about draining supplies in the base if you just send a truck up to get your supplies for a helicopters. Right now its a huge race to get to the supply depot because supplies are limited in each match and its not certain a player will get one. when you get to late game you're just relying on base supply regeneration and also when players do get a helicopter they usually player very conservatively because they don't want to lose it and because its not certain that they will get another one.

[haughty pivot]

That's where pvp comes in.

[frosty gulch]

I think locking helis behind a higher rank will help with that a lot

Now it probably requires a lower rank for testing

[ionic vapor]

The really need to limit how many can be active on a team.

[frosty gulch]

Isn't that already a thing?

[ionic vapor]

To my knowledge no

[quick bone]

You could do that but now you get arguments on who fly gets to fly them cause some people only want to fly haha

[ionic vapor]

No matter what it would come down to a first come first serve basis.

[nova shuttle]

Excatly

[nova shuttle]

Supply Depos are unlimited it's just a bug that they don't respawn

[quick bone]

Oh that's good I didn't know that

[nova shuttle]

pretty sure it's there

[nova shuttle]

I agree but maybe it would be better if only marked supply Depos are unlimited and the other you find on the map are limited

[quick bone]

Yeah cause you also get the players that are "like if I can't fly a helicopter then know one can". It happened in a couple of my games I played last night, we had our supply's cleaned out and dump in the water.

[nova shuttle]

that will be a rarity when the update releases it's only now because of hype

[quick bone]

Hopefully, but I have a feeling it's gonna keep happening, especially when player counts are going to go up because of the helicopters bringing in new players and returning players into the game

[nova shuttle]

true but we will survive 😄

i hear a lot people giving feedback to Bohemia to implement systems so players have roles and there is no races fo hrlicopters or other stuff but i think it would be better if we made the community better i like how the are no roles like in foxhole.

[quick bone]

true

I also feel that the helicopters feel like flying a jet to me, its not like the arma 3 advanced flight model settings

its way too easy