#western_sahara
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the western sahara dlc is the most excited I've been for a dlc since apex
My case has like at least 6 ssd trays, I'll rent out the space to whoever wants it.
I don't know why this specific topic goes into speculation (aka clickbait) chat
not again ... please, this is not a VBS channel ...
Arma 5, best arma
Will Western Sahara get post-release content or is it only going to see bug fixes for the most part?
let me guess one of the factors is... Mony?
it's just a small factor, but yes
Will this CDLC be like the others or will it integrate the new content into the base game. I know that the other CDLC have not done that but this one is so similar to the base game in time period that it might be possible?
it will be like the other CDLCs
Im hyped for This dlc, even if its Just for the Memes
Idc If its gonna be good or Bad i want it anyways
I'm just hyped for another release because it's another fine addition to my collection...
And it's not a hefty price tag either.
And sure, people might be tired of desert environments, but the dunes look so awesome.
It’s a new desert tho
I'm just going to jump the dunes with an ATV for hours.
Oh yeah, for sure.
And the camels 
Someone told me, "Who cares about 2035" and I'm over here like... I find it interesting, Yo.
And yes, omg the camels.
Can we use the attachto feature and put a machine-gun on them? Go all Iron Harvest War Camels on our enemies? 🤣 Or are they just like the roaming animals like the rabbits and snakes, etc?
I want the Marshall command variant to have my babies
I'm over here jittering for the release. It says "Later this year." We literally only have this month and next month left before 2022. Also yeah, totally. I know what you mean.
The camels alone are worth the price to me. Animating animals is very difficult and time consuming so there's not much choice when it comes to wildlife.
Equips Webknight's Melee weapons and charges on Camelback towards a tank/APC, in ION PMC Gear with Ballastic Mask
Enemy would be to confused to know how to react apporiatly
Interested in hosting this dlc. Will see what fun can be done to make a good game play.
ion pmc so sexy
need more non-government backed military stuff
Be cool to see ION and Raven go at it
Raven too?
I'm expecting a user made campaign or two using WS' ION stuff
God damn the western sahara map is too damn sexy
any estimated release dates yet? 🥺
none
hm, gun drone
this will help with ops ||(i am not planning to do ops where jeff bezos is the enemy and must be overthrown, same with obama)||
any pics of the Marshall variants?
in the screenshots
Fal?
yes there is a FAL in the DLC
Ill def be making my own but I have a habit of leaving alot of my campaigns unfinished lmao
The camels alone are a perfect guerilla warfare weapon
Dunno, maybe in the future when post content releasing will be a thing in this CDLC
would be interesting to see two PMC's fight each other in the dunes especially when ION is western based and raven is eastern based
@hallow widget when can we see some screenshots of the new UI like the Squad UI?
new ui?
Ohhh my bad, I thought there was a squad UI were you could learn the background of your ION operatives and such... hire them, make them rest etc
we didn't add features like this to keep it simple for the coop gameplay
ai party members do level up and get more skilled, but there is no dedicated ui for that
will RHS and other equipment/weapon mods work with the coop scenarios provided?
Im looking forward to the extraction so I want to know if I can also loot guns from mods
they should add a sandstorm
dudududu
so anyone know when the dlc will drop ?
Depends on whether you handle it correctly
For example: stumbling when holding it may cause it to drop
So you better watch out
The DLC knows when it will drop at all times. It knows this because it knows when it won't drop.
A DLC never drops late, a DLC drops exactly when it means to.
I'm going to make war camels and there's nothing anybody can do to stop me. I'm already waiting to toss my money at the CDLC, like right now. It's already a guaranteed investment.
Camels: "Look! Lettuce!" NOM NOM NOM!"
Me: "NO! MY BENJAMIN FRANKLINS!"
Trailer when
When it's here
Oh what's this?!?!?!?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835854573766836244/910118541687152640/unknown.png
it's in official server list btw
buys CDLC whenever it does launch, joins server, gets dronechecked by someone and instantly dies in the mission Worth it. 👍
(by "dronechecked" I mean someone flies a drone into my face really fast)
well this time the drone has Gun
Is the term "dronesnipercheck" now accurate?
Possibly so.
I don't think the drones have sniper rifles unfortunately
They said it would have a modular weapon system, so maybe a sniper rifle is part of that.
They said mostly guns with large belt mags
Flying* Navid without recoil 😓
one shot sniper drone. Fire once and 🎢 goes the drone
Ma Deuce on a drone.
Yeetus Deletus from above, 300m away. No way to see it coming.
Ba-woosh!
LETS GO!

Hmm... no video teaser?
Hype! Super excited about the new 2035 content
Huh
Im going to put camels for money mod 😄
not if you use euros 😉
Hey, anybody know when its gonna be the release time???
Tomorrow.
You will know soon enough. Just wait for the camels to be released. Everywhere.
It will be at 12 am?? 
Nope. Source: I live in EST
Fuck I wish they take out before morning:(
I think it usually unlocks at 2 for EST
It dont see unlock on store:(
It's up to Bohemians. It's something like that as always
Nothing new???
Caught myself refreshing Steam wishlist on mobile this morning ... what is going on? hehe
Not everything is done in your timezone
It's just rare that I'd do that in the first place 🙂 kind of hyped
However you might expect it to be done in BI's timezone and not the middle of their night.
ok, not the middle - evening, aka, after normal office hours
what if its in West Sahara timezone?
IF it's released at 2pm EST, as suggested above, that would be either 7 or 8pm in Western Sahara (the disputed region crosses timezones)
if you're talking about the 'country' of Western Sahara, rather than the region, then it's 8pm
Our most common target or window for A3 releases is 14:00-15:00 CET (Amsterdam / Prague ), but it's always dependent on many factors, so no guarantees until it's actually live 😎
Hey, as long as it's coming.
I know people who are throwing money at their screen and nothing is happening 😄
Is there a ſcript you touch that lets everything open, or does ſomeone have to go do everything manually, I wonder ?
If you mean for the release processes, it's a combination of automation and manual flips (more so for initial releases or when we need Valve to do a final step < another reason for the timing, because they are in Seattle USA).
Oh, that’s intereſting. Thank you for explaining ! That is what I was curious about.
Is there somebody at valve who manually has to press a button fir every game that launches?
They have done great improvements over the years to allow developers to do almost everything themselves, especially for established apps. There are a few cases left where they do need to do some final button press / greenlight. But even if they don't, we prefer to do release activities when they are in the office in case support is needed 🙂
Ah, makes sense😄
Congrats on the release)
🙌 🙌 🙌
🐫 🐪
Miller lookin like « yep that look totally fine »
its out
Congrats on the release, Rotators Collective 
does Rotators creates the Trailer or Bohemia team?
Trailer Credits
Footage, editing, and music by Rotators Collective.
Become a private military contractor and be deployed to the desert dunes of Sefrou-Ramal. The Arma 3 Creator DLC: Western Sahara is OUT NOW: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1681170/Arma_3_Creator_DLC_Western_Sahara/
Key features:
✔ 100 km2 terrain
✔ Armed forces (ION Services, SFIA, Tura, UNA, NATO Desert)
✔ 5 weapons, 9 vehicle variants & ...
Really nice job
And there is 15% off :o
Omg, that reminded me of Cat Shit One - the animated series, where you had bunnies fighting camels 😄
is there any info on who the rotators collective actually is? I was wondering if there were any known community modders who worked on this one too like with SOG
check the credits 😛
where are the credits for the DLC tho. 
can't find them.
good question
at the end of extraction 😄
what is the name of the song in the trailer?
thank you for reminding me of putting it elsewhere. i completely forgot about that the past days.
Can this replace Takistan?
Probalby not, but I think yhe upgraded assets would do well for a Takistan 2.0
Congrats on release
Does this dlc include new soundtracks?
In my opinion, no, not at all. The terrains are very different.
I see you went with the Armalore™
Aliens don't even leave the middle east at peace, stole all their furniture too!
of course, whole armaverse is alien's playground
Congratulations on release chaps
Super sexy CDLC, thank you for your work)
Only complain is no new webbing/vests for middle eastern forces
Or rather should say - sad to not see any
I like how vanilla North African CSAT units got their stuff replaced with gear from WS. Good for consistency.
technical limitations. bigger map -> bigger cell size -> less terrain details -> worse looking dunes. we picked the 100km² terrain size because it's the maximum we could do without having everything look like simple hills.
that said, even if someone doesn't like the terrain for whatever reason, i think the rest of the content still makes up for the price.
Nah, the terrain is definitely godtier
good work nonetheless, I'm here for "extraction"
Does the DLC contain any SP content
Even without the towns/details/etc, the sand dunes alone are really beautiful and true to life
yea a scenario come with it
neat
Alright gonna get it, the price is pretty nice
I agree that the map seems smaller than I imagined, but it is very well made. Made me somehow longing for mint tea
coop scenario and a sp vr scenario, also time trials, but i guess most don't care about that 😄
dude the time trials are great cause of the zamak racing
the coop scenario can be played in sp too, with ai pals
I do! The VR scenarios are great!
Not much content but of a very good quality. I wish all these assets became official.
oh yeah, the zamak racing variants only exist because of the time trials. i thought it would look funny, so there it was
eagerly waiting on the official zeus and pvp servers for this
Oh nice
Doesn't look like non-black variants of the XMS are available in the editor. Only the SLR's ones are placeable in the editor.
To everyone on the team, congratulations on the release!
hm yeah, that's somewhat on purpose. i didn't want to clutter the list with too much stuff. especially since it's not that hard to spawn them via script. if there is popular demand, i can add them to it, though.
Could someone please tell me what the -mod= name is for this?
ws
Thanks
Love it - UN in BLUFOR with the other bad actors
Congrats on the release! Already thinking of a heli tour when I get home
wait king of the dune can be played in SP with ai
So my friend is committing a crime against humanity already.
He found out the Arsenal in the Extraction mission supports mods.
He already dressed up as a Halo Marine. Help me.
Best thing is the camel statues... i can now realise my dream of making my camel kingdom.. and worship the mighty camel

yeah, we kept it open specifically to allow mods.
He's now dressing as... uh... I think it's the Aussies at Tobruk.
(You should hear him, he does)
I am enjoying this very much.
@hallow widget Congratulations on the release, I wish you, and your team the best with the CDLC.
Congratulating you guys on the release as well. Liked your spin on koth idea very much 👍
is the CDLC out yet?
read the steam reviews and decide if you wanna get it
watch videos etc
not the channel to ask about the game, you'd wanna ask in #general_chat_arma
Sorry
np
Creator DLC so a DLC that costs money but isn't made by the Arma Devs
Ohh
if i want to put some of these default missions in rotation on server, what are the mission paths /names for the config file?
just FYI, there're 3x6 official Western Sahara servers (6 per EU, USwest, USeast)
shouldve just done it like sog and got real koth instead 
¯_(ツ)_/¯
well, it's anarchy then
Western Sahara, official servers : ```
Europe
85.190.148.62:3102
85.190.148.62:3202
85.190.148.62:3302
85.190.148.62:3402
85.190.148.62:3502
85.190.148.62:3602
US , East
109.230.214.46:3102
109.230.214.46:3202
109.230.214.46:3302
109.230.214.46:3402
109.230.214.46:3502
109.230.214.46:3602
US , West
37.10.126.66:3102
37.10.126.66:3202
37.10.126.66:3302
37.10.126.66:3402
37.10.126.66:3502
37.10.126.66:3602
What's the difference between the desert Stomper and the regular one?
technically, none
it had to be added for the new nato (desert) unit groups to work correctly
I see
ah it just released
just gonna say from a bit of hindsight the gun drone is a bit too effective during when eliminate sniper objectives pop up in extraction
Aw, there's no desert radio pack
notices LBV Harness (Olive) in arsenal
Hmmm... yes
That’s kinda its purpose tbh. Go in and deal with threats that normal infantry would have trouble with
so no Navid on drone?
the gun drone is a taste of the future. you can barely see it, it's very small, very fast, you can't really hide from it. i really don't want to find myself on a battlefield, especially not with such things in the sky. (and we know that various countries are utilizing drones like that already now)
Also, doesn’t put any humans in danger
i have an idea, Portable EMP system on top of a Hunter.
So, it’s basically free infantry
any uav within 300m of area gets knock out / disabled
you guys have done an awesome job with this cdlc
oh yeah also love it when we're doing a clear minefield obj and a civvie truck drives by at full speed and gets itself blown up
honestly entertaining
Found out that the new TSP-12 shells work in the Promet SG as well, nice!
https://i.imgur.com/kHEeYll.png
Presenting: The assault camel
🐪
they even work in those old shotguns
Black Marshall is nice - love the camonet as well
I'm super happy with the amount of stuff and the level of polish in this DLC. Everything fits in nicely and there are a ton of cool additions.
...but I still wish it was done as a standard DLC so I could use all this stuff with vanilla more easily.
Congrats @hallow widget ! Looking forward to having a go this weekend!
I definitely need some Zamak speeding training.
only in sp
Get foot pedals, analog input is king of control
Contact DLC does a handheld implementation of counter-UAV using a so-called Spectrum Device in the sidearm (pistol) slot
Just spent 2h in coop for Extraction. Got to about 3% of intel and no save option in MP 🥺
Isn't it dysfunctional outside the campaign?
It shouldn't be very hard to script a basic EMP device. Hold action to set it off, all it does is find every UAV within x radius and setDamage 1 or remove all the fuel. Doing it with the bluetooth gun would be harder, the scripting to make that work like it does in the campaign is complicated, but possible.
has anyone managed to play a cooperative mission to a dedicated server? I loaded the mod with -mod=WS but the mission list is empty
Don't forget to ensure the server is using the creatordlc beta branch
Yes, thanks! I've got it for GM and VN
You are out of luck! It seems that that is too much work for little gain: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T161883
@snow haven cheers for the link though 👍
he's talking about co-op tho
co-op is MP
yes, saving in coop is sadly not an easy feat to do. that said, it is possible to finish extraction in a 4 to 5 hours run, so it shouldn't be too terrible
can we ride the camels?
Friendly neighbourhood arms dealer. Good prices too: https://i.ibb.co/BV6tvdZ/Arma3-x64-2021-11-19-08-59-12-747.jpg
that mod is SP only
Nope, it works on all saves including MP saves
The mission maker had to enable Saves thou... perhaps Extraction has Saves disabled and so it wont work then
Great release guys
Do you HAVE to load the dlc in order to use the equipment, I want to use some of it for my unit but not everyone has it, just curious
yes
that is the point of cdlcs
you can use the compatibility patch on the workshop so people don't have to buy it
but they cannot use the equipment, or they can but will have watermarks
yeah okay, I was wanting to use the equipment for an enemy faction so that wouldn't be an issue
only people who don't have the cdlc need the patch
those that have it can just have the cdlc loaded
Western Sahara Warlords is glitched, it kept selecting Military sector over and over when we wanted to select a sector to take next. We have already captured military. https://i.ibb.co/YtSjFKT/Arma3-x64-2021-11-19-09-51-06-580.jpg
In the AP-5 scenario of the vr training, how am I supposed to snap a picture of the hvt?
look at him and use T (i think) to target him. you can check the task description, it shows the assigned hotkey
Genuent question, is there a dedicadet Western Sahara discord?
Nvm
I looked at the pins
You better believe there is a Discord. You are in one.
i meant a discord server
That terrain is a beauty
It's nonfunctional/cosmetic outside of Contact; the vanilla game contains a basic API for scripted solutions (albeit lacking Contact's Signal labels (frequency and signal name above the peak) and Selected signal to transmit (shown below the compass in Contact)): https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Spectrum_Device
Another example of 'cosmetic outside of Contact, but you can script your way around things' is said CBRN gear: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_CBRN
Anyone know what weapons I can put in the AP5 drone? Like a list of specific weapons not just the types
The compatibility patch is what contains the assets so that (when loaded as an Arma 3 mod) you have a closer-to-official-DLCs experience
I should definitely look into scripting, but then ...
if you place it in 3den and check the pylon settings you can see the compatible weapons
Oo thanks didn’t think of that
Here's (the only) two scripted solutions I know of to be in Workshop mod form: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2214415193 + https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224534021
I was going to ask you if the Spectru device actually works reading through, and you seem to have answered the question in the meantime. Wonderful!
The 'rebuilt' one adds six Editor modules to add simulated functionality, albeit it only displays detected signals without having 'listening in' and 'transmit' capability
The older one instead has a SP showcase mission using a pair of MP-intended/tested scripts (multiplayer tested with 120+ players on server and 20+ devices working and nearly 20 signal sources) that you can use yourself when mission-making, and one of these scripts includes a simulated jamming capability
oi, anyone know if any of the units come pre-equipped with shield
Whenever I try & change the weapon on the gun drone in-game, it'll change the model, but the weapon is still registered as a MK200.
i think it's just an issue with the ammo counter. it should show 0, no? (switch firemode until you are at the "new" weapons)
it's something we weren't able to work around
Ah, gotcha
Congratulations on the release, the Rotators!! 🚁
Very nice looking assets. Here is a video for those who have not bought it yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAK5u5CpEQ
Is there a video with all the new content in a showcase? I am REALLY interested in the ION PMCs... Brings back memories of ARMA 2!
The gun drone with a Zafir is very accurate. There is a small CCIP crosshair below the large one, this shows bullet aim point. This works out to 900m. Very good countersniper weapon. This CDLC should be merged into main game TBH. It is only 3.7 GiB.
Not happening because that puts BI on the hook for supporting/maintaining it
Which opens the floodgates to 'why don't you hire this other CDLC team' I suppose
And historically allegedly BI mainly recruited based on willingness to relocate to (and be paid as one living in) the Czech Republic... these days who knows
The Armed Assault wiki mentions an unused STR_LXWS_VEKTOR_GL text string...
Big sad the Public Zeus servers for Western Sahara do not support admin commands
so we cant actually set the Zeus up properly
KRISS Vector?
It was in the context of the Velko R4
Oh yes. Looks like a Galil copy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_R4
Aren't all live ops in the netherlands?
@ripe barn XMS is confirmed blursed
I love it
😄
idk, nor whether that has affected recruiting
Great DLC so far! Pathfinding is weird on the new map but everything has that lovely DLC shine to it
So an actually working gun-toting drone and ballistic shields for ...6 bucks?
How do the shields work, like dual-equipping with a primary of your choice or like the shield+m9 thing?
Deployable shields
Watch the trailer
Or check out the compat pack to see the weapons and terrain
ah, that exists. Thanks for reminding me ^^
np
Tad disappointing, some small cool features but will give this a skip.
Me too.
Then again, its actually looking better in terms of stuff than iron curtain for me. And i really wanted something East/West german related.
The ballistic shield is more of a "modern FPS" inspired tactical shield, from the looks of it.
Any data on its armor/durability? Like what goes through, what stops it, etc?
Does the drone MG not have recoil ? I dont see much of that in videos. o0
salutes in Belkan fashion
If you want east/west german that's what glob mob is for
Very easily fills that niche.
And is a very good cdlc.
oh, sorry, i did mean cold war period, but yeah, thanks ^^
It is cold war
yep ^^
can the extraction mode be ported to other maps?
Does anyone know what the file size of just the CDLC is? The Steam page says 50 gigs, but I assume that is including the base Arma 3 game.
My folder says its 3.67 GB
yep cdlc is 3.67 gigs
3.67 gigs, that's it, great, thanks guys.
I agree with this
But also this as well
Just need to fix the ZSU-23 fire rate. It should be far faster, but it is destructive though.
Can the gunshield and optionally optic be added to the Offroad truck? To complete that armored look
There is an armoured offroad.
Yes, in the Virtual Garage under the components (puzzle piece) tab, same as on standard offroads. The optic is referred to as "rail".
he means by default, pretty sure
can i put pics here?
they won't embed, but you can link them.
camera doesnt work like a camera, dlc unplayable
I installed the compatibility data and can see the map in 3den and it is freaking huge. I get Star Wars Tatooine vibes from it. 😄 I think for SciFi, this terrain can be a really useful. Love the XM8. Beautiful actually. The shield looks great but I have not been able to test it out thoroughly yet in VR. Ballistic mask looks like it came out of Army of Two but did not test ballistics protection on it yet. I am on the fence about it even tho the price is good as I am thinking where we should use it. I will review videos of the gameplay mode first.
Gonna be any multiplayer events? Can't find any servers for it yet
arma engine doesnt like super fast fire rate
The RHS one fires just fine.
probably done in some other way
Do you need to spawn in camels manually in multiplayer ? Or do they just appear randomly like the rabbits & snakes?
I have animals appearing but no camels yet 🙂 🐪
enableEnvironment [true, true];
There is a module to spawn them.
@meager relic thanks mate 👍
camels spawning like rabbits would be a little bit too random :p
they work similar as other big animals like goats and sheep
Me checking Western Saharah few days ago Q4 2021
me coming back after 3 day break from ARMA 3 I wonder what the latest mods are WEstern Saharah Compatability
Spits out water
Should be WS - in caps
Are the map in the compatility mod? 😁
you should be able to see the map in the editor and evaluate it through there but i dont hink u can actually play in it
Just to clarify… I would not be able to play In a multiplayer scenario with my milsim group if I only have the compatility mod? 😁
Not on the map, no
Not bad for 6€, I don't think you're gonna find a cdlc as cheap
Might be little content but it'll be updated eventually
Great job on the CDLC! Honestly I like it a ton from what I've been able to check out so far, the price seems appropriate for what you get and the assets blend in neatly with vanilla.
Like many of the CDLCs, this blows the vanilla DLC's out of the water with it's price to content ratio.
Keeping in mind that none of the CDLCs got to have hardcoded engine improvements, everything's scripted or module'd up...
Yea, I suppose I feel as the CDLC model splits the community up particularly when it comes to maps.
Didnt SOG do something magic with its trees abd bushes
i personally like the map, reminds me of ye ole delta force games
and the coop campaign is not as bad as old man in terms of fps
old delta force was really nice. though i feel like it didnt age very well
Thats incorrect.
SOGPF requested bugfixes and performance fixes because some of their things were specifically impacted.
And they also got some small features they requested.
WS also received a engine fix specifically for the CDLC
and it was the best fix in the world
Ahhhh, requested and granted, I see
for the camels ? :o if it's the best it can only be that
are camels local to players in MP just like rabbits or snakes?
didn't have a chance to check it myself
they work like sheep and goats. pretty sure they are not local
What was it?
there was a bug with the vehicle license plate font. because license plates in our terrain are quite different to altis, etc
I see...
@hallow widget, cheers for the shields in Last Stand! @tall plaza and myself survived 0.5 waves more with them 😅
Our next subtle request for our go-to mode is: mentioning wave results in the debriefing (at least the # of waves cleared would be awesome).
sounds good. we'll consider it 😄
Windows does not care about case size and in my experience arma server has all folders lower case, so no. Lowercased ws should be safer to use everywhere.
It's not. It doesn't work on Linux (client)
I'm loving the new content, guys. Great work!
The map is awesome! It doesn't really feel like anything we've had before
And the XMS feels great!
linux server seems to be having some issues right now. it is currently being investigated
@hallow widget I was referring to the client, not the server
oh, ok. then i don't know
in reference to veteran29's comment that it doesn't matter if you use -mod=ws or -mod=WS 🙂 Only the latter works
-mod=ws does not work because the folder name is WS, not ws
Having messed about with the compat addon I must say that it would be nice if the assets were implemented into the game in a similar fashion to contact.
o, is the recommended including the base game?
is there anyway to see the download size on steam besides just the recommended disk space?
it's 3.67 gbs
thanks, but how can you tell that from the steam page? I've always just gone off the recommendations
It's from the size of the dlc folder in my arma folder.
it's a cdlc, that's not happening.
is there anyway to see that before downloading?
before downloading, yes, while you try to install it will say so.
before buying, nope.
actually
no nvm, steamdb doesn't show info of file size.
lol so there really is no way to tell before buying? that seems silly
It's shown on the steam page but it's usually wrong afaik
I think that only counts for the workshop.
no it only shows recommended disk space
theres been a couple times its been wildly wrong
i have shit tier internet so its kinda frustrating
that seems like pertinent information idk what the reason could be not to disclose that
it shows recommended disk space for when you have the base game too
||It's classified||
yes
no
well i meant as in terms of quality bro
bc the vietnam dlc was arguably one of the best dlcs to drop and could be its own game
I'd argue its quality was pretty inconsistent but that's not exactly relevant, in terms of western sahara it's meant to compliment vanilla content, not necessarily replace it like glob mob and SOG.
dude ur right
i feel like i just payed for a vanilla game of arma 3
wowwwww
the nato uniforms didnt even fucking change
LMAO this has got to be the laziest dlc theyve dropped
and to think i was hyped asf for it
I meant in terms of not being a total overhaul.
for its price it was well worth it for me.
I've spent far more for less.
Why do Zeus server have admin voting disabled?
just got sahara, how do i play it?
Turn it on in the Arma launcher under DLC tab.
Hellor. Idk. ~ monkry
You payed less than you would at McDonald's
^
To say that this CDLC is lazy is a terrible misjudgement honestly
Especially since it was done by one dev and some freelancers
I was hyped for thing like the XMS, etc, and I was satisfied with the CDLC overall. It filled alot of Niche's in NATO'S overall Armament, ATGM Marshsall,etc.
For the 5 bucks it currently is, It's very much so worth it.
done that, but where do i actually play it
Ok.
Also why were you so hyped for it? There's even more content than what was announced. It's not like you were misled
because jihad
😐 it's 6 bucks bro
play what?
Sahara
editor or extraction
okay, thanks
the helicopters dlc, which adds wayyyy less, is fucking 9 euro
A map and a bunch of great pickups and other vehicle modifications
also co-op gamemode is muy bueno
to me its everything
the luscious controls of the Chinook.... The hauling capabilities of the Mi....
go back to dms u gorilla
stop fantasying about helicopters for once


Why are there no high pop servers.. damn
it's true they left enableDebugConsole on 2 which enables it for EVERYONE
just to enhance the fun
is there a way to purchase more ION cars, mine got rekt in a ambush
the offroads should respawn once you return
Mad
What's up with no being able to become admin and change the parameters on the CDLC pub zues ops? (If this question has been asked, i'll delete my question)
That a bug, a feature or what?
its a bug, it will be fixed soon
Just finished a sp Extraction run, and I gotta say, its real good. No scavenging (at least, once you have some cash), no repeated side missions, AI behaved itself relatively well, no major bugs. Great work!
(Whoops, didnt realize I had someones comment reply'd o.O)
Thank god...
There was a 14-16 Zeus server up earlier, there's some interest for public Zeus thankfully.
okay i never once complained ab the price. its a reskin of the vanilla game.
it's really not
I just wish they added the ION and UNA skin to the vanilla Marshall too instead of just the new Marshalls 😛
yeah but it's better than running stond in a jungle stepping on mines every second
hey guys, does the sahara DLC run standalone from vanilla ARMA like how Prairie Fire and Contact DLCs do, or is all the content from sahara available in base game?
like all other new dlcs
Idk why people are complaining about the price. Did the same happen with Contact at launch?
This thing is dirt cheap, and people are still complaining.
Eh, people will always complain about the price no matter what. See one review that says that it should be $2 max because it's "only reskins".
you should make a better CDLC then e.e
you need to collect millions in funds to make sog2
I personally think it's foolish to think that every team is either wanting to or even can do that.
i would even say for most teams it is impossible. BI is speaking to creators from the community with the cdlcs. if they would want more, they have to hire "real" studios instead.
I'm assuming that most CDLC team members aren't full time game devs.
Favorite unsung feature, the full arsenal letting me choose face and voices.
Ended the run with a brit, a pole, a ruskie, a frenchman, a yank, and a terminally confused chinese conscript.
gawd
i love ARMA AI sometimes I dont know why but my Marksman is just looking at the sky
or when AI are under a building
and this isn't the DLC's fault it's just how ARMA is
but man does it ruin some missions sometimes
The CDLC was worth a buy honestly. Lots of content for $5 wasnt bad.
I did the inevitable comparison with other weapons mod and I have to say I am impressed with that XMS the most. I compared CUP, RHS, Niarms and DLC/cDLC. Everything is completely polished better than vanilla ARMA 3 quality. It is up there with the best content. I am on the fence because it is so light and unsure of the terrain... I am going to check with the 3 clans I play with to see if they will host a server for the Extraction mode...
I just bought it. It came out to less than $5 USD for me and it met my Pizza game money criteria - if it gives me about the same satisfaction as a good slice of pizza, I buy it. Plus the clan I play with just put up an Escape server for this cDLC! Downloading now and congrats to Lexx and team again. It is just SO polished and look forward to using that XMS!
It's pretty good, consistent, honest about it's contents, dunno what rotten acid people are trippin on thinking it's any other thing than what's advertised
so this motion sensor in the ION showcase
is that usable in a multiplayer scenario? 👀
how the fuck do I destroy the weapon caches in the extraction scenario
and what exactly are they
nvm you just shoot the fucking crates
I'm getting 100 FPS on this terrain! LOL!
Some comments - NO shimmering mid level textures! My Jebus how amazing... Comments - THIS NEEDS an old school Lawrence of Arabia or Indiana Jones type sound track... I am playing my ravage sandbox mission on the terrain... totally needs it...
TBH when I realize it has some melodies from Operation Arrowhead, was sick
I am playing this in the background right now as I run around avoiding desert zombies and raiders! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_MAK0rYdnQ
god forbid it isn't a total game conversion... For 5-6 bucks lmaoo
I'm mainly excited to see what new 2035 mods come out of this,
as the up-armored offroads, for example, should've really been there since release of the base game for the FIA haha
The sound of climbing wooden ladder still has sound of climbing metal one, should be something easy to fix?
More player slots please, really enjoyed the campaign but wish it had more than 4 slots- is there a way to do that at all or not yet?
should work, but we didnt really test it a lot
we'll look into it
don't know right now how ladder sound is defined
don't bootlick bi. It's one of those companies that lost best modders in the world due to their policies.
Dayz, Battle royale, Breakingpoint to name a few
Now we have a 50% cut which makes modder creations cost 50% more and only the "chosen ones" can monetize their work. This dlc should not cost more than 3$

Had to agree 50:50 is not a fair amount of money in my opinion, but hey
Selling a product is not done just by making it but sell it
i really don't want to comment on money, for obvious reasons, but these 2-3$ opinions always make me wonder how the hell people expect creators to break even. we know arma has sold millions of copies, but expecting cdlcs to sell a million+ copies sound like fantasy to me. with a price tag of 2/3$ you end up making cents after all deductions including tax. and even one simple weapon can produce quite some costs already. to me it is simply not feasible to expect huge amount of content for such a price tag.
that said, people are paying hundreds of dollars for single fortnite skins, but we are not allowed to get paid for our work...
Anyone else has issues with XMS sinking too much into surface much when on bipod?
People crying over enormous 6$ price tag have never paid any tax in their life
Love the CDLC. One question though: Ridable camels when? 😄
You have to wait for a mod, I hope guys that have made the tiger mod (and upcoming horse mod) will make a compat for the camel
The XMS platoform is really imaginative, kudos to the devs 👍
I'm joking 🙂 Although Will definitely check that mod out if it ever comes
I'll push back slightly at the implied favouritism here. Absolutely anyone at all can apply to the creator program if they feel they have something promising on their hands and we will be happy to discuss options for cooperation with them.
There are a lot of other factors involved that people don't realize. I understand that from the outside perspective you might feel that way, but I like to think we treat our creators well. ❤️
I can understand that there's a lot of paperworks and tax and anything and anything, but... my opinion says so!
Understandable what you say, though
They did talk about it eheheh 👀
I'm using the creatordlc branch with ws in my startup params. Server is running seemingly fine, but none of the coop missions show in the missions screen. any ideas?
Comment.... I want a Pyramids, Casinos and Egyptian/Annunaki tombs mod for this cDLC... Seriously with underground bases... Edit... and a white tuxedo James Bond outfit with a nice Aston Martin.
unfortunately this is Western Sahara, no pyramids or casinos there
but yeah, having some kind of Uncharted spinoff in Arma would be cool
lesser cost - easier to sell.
I won't be buying and hosting server with this mod due to 6$ price tag, though I considered it. My fair price is around 3$ for the amount of content it brings. If you think I'm alone here - look at amount of servers supporting cdlcs.
It's barely about me, I just think about players whom I shall convince to buy something in order to be equal in multiplayer environment. I like the content in this mod though. Few stuff but the quality is nice + it fits in various mods, unlike coldwar&ww2 stuff.
yeah, i heard that argument before. selling more for less doesn't mean you make more money, though. you could still just barely get by.
it's a gamble nonetheless
Did you won the gamble so far?
from pure cost point of view, no. but that's expected. it's like 2 days since release, numbers don't mean much right now.
Fair
that said, we are all optimistic. nothing bad has happened, perception of the cdlc is good / better than i had hoped even. i think it's all good right now.
Yeah I've expected more like scared to see Mixed Steam review but it's pretty good so far, eh
Content is good. It's few but it's good quality & it is refreshing to not be stuck in the past nostalgic grandpa ww2-coldwar stuff.
I'd say the critics are very good 🙂
what we need is shooting from dromedary camels. IRL Saharaui fighters can shoot efficiently "standing" on the moving dromedaries. They are the Comanches of the dunes.
Good content overall. It's an interesting DLC. But when I think that we've been playing in these buildings since 2009 🤮
2010 actually but still
they look better than the original ones tho, especially the doors.
they do, and I also prefer that they're empty
same
Good, I wouldn't want to play with you on the same server
Anyone of you fine gentlemen playing extraction ?
check out #looking_for_game channel, you can post there to find some people or join someone already looking for players
hey there gents! I am in a desperate need of some help! I just started my first dedicated server on my machine so me and my friends can play. I managed to get it working with mods, the problem is I can not get the Sahara DLC running on it. Any help please?
And there is 🐪
and make it double 🐫
No double please. I hate CamelCase!!
Polpow be snake casing around?
I love camelCase BTW 🙂
Plenty of snakes in the desert, so snake_case would be well justified too
selectPlayer will just do
can we do this in zeus too?
I... don't know, I barely do my Zeus
Zeussy Baka


good. Stick to workarounds;)
Is it intended for the new Up armoured kasatka's (Orca) to not use the same textures as the base game CSAT one? (And vice versa)?
I know it can be done via commands to retexture it, but wasn't sure if it should also be an option in the virtual garage.
but they both use the same. Each one has Black, Black Custom and Hex/Opfor textures in the virtual garage
its set up to only use faction specific liveries, same as other vanilla content in game
note however that the left side of the airframe uses a separate texture sheet so that writings dont appear mirrored, so it's not exactly 1:1 with the base game model
- Make sure you have WS loaded on your client as well (it's in the DLC tab of the launcher)
- Make sure you've updated and restarted the server since making these changes (switching to the creatordlc branch requires an update)
so just started extraction multiplayer, and none of the players are in group with each other, is there a way to fix this?
Aw man that abandoned base looks sick I'm going to go in and make a composition of it in it's prime with the dome up and no wrecks an-
checks editor
well fine I didn't want to put in any creative effort today anyways
there are no squad indicators tho
there are?
at least I had them during play.
there's scripted squad indicators within the scenario
I suppose it depends on difficulty setting.
depends on difficulty setting and distance to party member. don't remember the details right now, but i think it's 100m
Hi, I bought the Western Sahara DLC. Why can I not use this beautiful titan missile Marshal in vanilla? The extra storage space required for it to be added to vanilla is worth it. I do believe that you miss out on a good sales opportunity here. It should work the same way as trying to get into a fighter jet or tank when you do not already have them. Think about what that will do to the sales figures 🙂
cdlc is explicitly NOT vanilla
only BI DLC is vanilla
cdlc is a fancy name for mod monetization. Mods are not a part of vanilla
Except you are wrong. I can use my Promet rifle in vanilla.
The promet is from a regular DLC, not a Creator DLC
or bought a packet of cigarettes!
I know. And it is also not my sales bottom line which suffers. When reading about how they decided to launch the mod they decided to keep stuff like the titan marshal out due to storage space. (Which was the one reason they gave.)
Se the one above.
wat...
people are complaining about the price..?
Scroll on up and you'll see someone do so here
People also criticize how this is treated just as separately from the base game as all other CDLCs... I presume that BI and the devs both agreed that this wouldn't get an exemption
What does the "Premium Content" parameter in the Extraction mission do? I toggled it on but it doesn't seem to chance anything; or if it did I'm blind.
enemy soldiers will spawn with additional dlc weapons (apex AK rifle, some marksman rifles, etc)
in singleplayer the mission directly checks if you own the dlcs and does the same on its own
Thanks
some trouble on the zeus servers. Sometimes the zeus would randomly get dced then nobody could use the zeus interface after them
does anyone know if there's an ammo crate anywhere around the FOB for western sahara, or do we just have to go to the armory and reload my same weapons every time?
you have to reload iirc, but the fastest way is to save your gear as preset and then just simply load it in the arsenal
cool, thanks
It'd be awesome to get Extraction with like 6-10 player slots, and draw it out/make it more of an intel grind.
hey so I've finished extraction, it was entertaining but i felt like i didn't explore much. Any cool features or story things in it that are hidden across the map?
are there any new scenarios for sahara already? or mods
for now ive seen none, hope to see some NATO fighting CSAT
i lost Pegasus XD. Is there anyway to get him back? I miss him so much.
Is there a mission template for extraction? Would like to try use this game mode for other assets if poss
It looks bit too complex for something that could have a simple template.
yeah, it's not a variable system. would be easier to make a completely new mission from scratch.
Where can I find the missions list for the dedicated server?
For CDLC Western Sahara developers.
I would like to congratulate you on the wonderful work you have done.
I've only played the "Extraction" scenario for a couple of hours and I have to say that I'm having a lot of fun. The atmosphere is wonderful and even if you haven't brought anything new (such as type of assignments / missions) the whole scenario is really fun, engaging and well done. Having it set in the lore of Arma 3 is a sublime touch, which I have been waiting for for a long time. I would be willing to purchase these types of expansions every month. The map, although not huge, is beautiful. I can't wait to try it all in co-op and try out the multiplayer scenarios.
I think the best compliment an Arma player can give is the following: you made me forget, for a few pleasant hours, waiting for Arma 4.
I must also agree with the above. A job well done just the right type of CDLC and great price. Love the new game mode
I also would pay for CDLC like this
I’m really loving extraction, but can anyone tell me how to play king of the dunes and last stand? May be a stupid question but thanks
KOTD is their own take on the pre-existing KOTH by Sa-Matra game mode (a 'sector control' type team vs. team match)
you have to host your own server im multiplayer section and select Last Stand or kotD in server lobby 😉
Ok, thanks!
I don’t suppose Code four gaming or anyone is gonna host a king of the dunes server?
Never mind, the official server is in sector control
How do I run WS on a linux dedi?
You need to make sure your server is on the CDLC branch (-beta creatordlc when updating/installing with SteamCMD) and load ws as a mod
cool, figured it was like that but wasnt sure if the branch had changed
arma3_1 | 19:08:01 String STR_MOD_LAUNCHER_ACTION not found
arma3_1 | 19:08:01 Initializing stats manager.
arma3_1 | 19:08:01 Stats config disabled.
arma3_1 | 19:08:01 sessionID: 7984289e8e804060fa674679285a95aad0e00144
arma3_1 | Error: can't resize AutoArray to negative size!
games_arma3_1 exited with code 139```
segfault when trying to load ws
trying the 'rename everything to lowercase' thing
perception of the DLC is good because it's good DLC 🙂
sup smiley. I'm planning on making something like Extraction into a random mission soon. I have these grand ambitions of making something like Antistasi w/ alive but to start I'm trying to make fun 30-90 minute missions and extraction seems like a good choice for that. So if you wait a little bit, I'll have that for you, and I plan on making it work with any map with an alive index
yeah, still getting the same segfault after doing the rename. My guess is it's probably an issue with linux DS. Anything I can do to make it easier to debug?
linux server have issues currently. it's investigated and hopefully fixed soon™️
Dont have to qsk probably but is the black screen for zeus gonna be fixed soon?
Like the map. Although i expected it to be bigger
As in more dessert ground to cover from village to village
black screen for zeus?
When a zeus starts up in an empty server and leaves, the next game moderator gets a black screen
Also scripting isnt allowed so no arsenals?
does the same happen on other official zeus missions?
got 3/4 for the new coop mission extraction if ANYONE wants to play the new dlc
yo how in the tf do you get Sully into a vehicle for extraction?
the mans wont get in anything, so ive been sitting for 20 minutes while he fuckin walks back to base 😑
i think he joined my friends group, but it wasnt working for him. doesnt matter anyways. we sat at base and waited 30 minutes while the dude walked all the way back. the mans walked over a kilometer alone unharmed
How do you change the weapon in a AP-5? The wiki says I have to disarm it but the scroll menu shows no such option.
I don't think you can change the weapon on the AP-5 tbh
From what I understood it works like a dynamic loadout pylon
that you change on the editor
there is a normal action on the drone which lets you take off the rifle
I can't seem to access that when I assemble the AP-5 after acquiring it from an arsenal
singleplayer or multiplayer
Multiplayer, dedicated server.
there is an issue with it in mp, some people reported
Yes I seem to have encountered that.
ION Weapons showcase is challenging
No
How?
Haven't done it yet no spoilers😂
Gun drone with MAAWS/RPG pylon when?
So now we need the reverse for vanilla and other DLC to use WS cDLC content as well. The SLR is climbing up my sniper gear list right now.
Hello, i come there with a question, i would like to know if their is a way to get access to the file of the extraction mission scenario, i would like to be able to edit a few thing on it, like adding custom vehicle and change helicopter and operation base, i dont want to force the access, but i was wondering if one of the CDLC creator could help me or send me the missions file if there is a chance, the purpose is not to upload it on workshop but only for my private usage 🙂
Hope you will understand and keep up your great work 🙂
Completed ION Weapon Systems showcase
Is the ||convoy supposed to move in the training where you capture a mortar||?
nah, it's stationary
just the APC driving away
the apc will engage you, yes
With the content available so far, the variants and new additions fit perfectly with base Arma.
Also, love the throwback to Teams Sword and Shield in Extraction. Half-expected Tanny to start yammering on at my ear out of nowhere 😄
A little bit on the topic of vanilla default versus optional integration of CDLC: https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/qz3su3/do_you_think_the_new_arma_dlc_should_be_put_into/hln95c0/
"For now"
Update, but public Zeus admin voting fixed or is that on BI Devs?
that's on BI
hey whats pegasus?
a horse with wings 
but jokes aside, it's your helicopter you can call for extraction or use to fast travel
Anyone reccommend a particular server to load into? Or anyone wanna team up? Im an experienced heli pilot.
WTF i have problem for join on server - Verifying PBO Failed: ws\addons\air_fl_lxws.evo
servers will be restarted soon™️ then it should work again
alr cheers
how the hell do i host the campign or the other WS coop modes? doesnt show on my list
well there isn't a campaign, you should be looking under scenarios tho for the gamemodes
i sometimes find you have to hit the show/hide custom missions in the top right
ok will try
thanks. brb
@thick siloDUDE, you are a godsend myman. you my ass never used that "show/hide" button. NOW I KNOW! thanks again!
It's cool, the game really doesn't tell you to do it lmao
been two days trying to play with friends
none of us thought about that button lol
lol, sorry it was such an easy fix
not your fault lol
I have a request regarding the Offroad, but can a gunshield and optionally an optic be added to the Offroad truck that was up armored? To complete that armored look of course
isnt it already there?
Can someone link me to all the classnames for this cDLC so we can incorporate it into loot tables in other game modes?
What classNames? Vehicles? Weapons?
Vehicles, Weapons, optics, ammo, gear and buildings structures. This is so we can add it to Ravage or Escape loot tables.
It is
"'WS' in configSourceModList (_x)" configClasses (configFile >> "CfgVehicles") apply {configName _x};
"'WS' in configSourceModList (_x)" configClasses (configFile >> "CfgWeapons") apply {configName _x};
"'WS' in configSourceModList (_x)" configClasses (configFile >> "CfgAmmo") apply {configName _x};```This should return all vehicles, weapons, ammos, including unusable ones
you could add scope >= 1 or scope == 2 for vehicles and weapons to get valid ones
That also
or use regex for lxws
Only for the Vanilla offroad
huh, i'm pretty sure our variant has the shield and rail as well
There are. But missing in the Garage
Oh yeah, true. IDK why I missed that, probably because I'm drunk enough
guess it's easy to miss because there is so much "Hide x"
Does it work for the optics too?
yes it's "hide rail"
almost had me in panic mode 😄
Oh wow now it's working nvm, thank you for the great work!
Where should I add these parameters? like this: "'WS' in configSourceModList (_x)" configClasses (configFile >> "CfgVehicles") >= 1 apply {configName _x}; ?
"'WS' in configSourceModList (_x) && getNumber (_x >> 'scope') == 2" configClasses (configFile >> "CfgVehicles") apply {configName _x};
newb at arma scripting
for example
Hello, can the Western Sahara CDLC be installed via the dlc creator branch? Because I don't see western sahara listed on steamdb depots
that's exactly how you install it
client depot is 1681170, server depot is 233786. the server depot is included with the creatordlc branch
Didn't find any item for it, and nothing in the manual.
there is no item for it. needs to be called via script right now
so mostly interesting for mission creators only right now
is it possible to have a Drone fight battle 15vs15 drone combat?
I'm getting the error message saying:
Addon 'data_f_IxWS_loadorder' requires addon 'Language_f_IxWS'
ever since the last update. What should I do?
verify integrity of game cache
I'll look into that, thank you.
I have a couple questions about the Extraction game mode.
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It looks like the "hold space to advance" to skip the intro cutscene doesn't work. I'm holding it down for several seconds and it never works.
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In multiplayer there's a parameter for premium content. What does that do? I figured this dlc would already have that on and don't see what the purpose of that parameter.
enables use of other DLC content within the mission
apex DLC aks for enemies for example
I imagine in singleplayer since there's no option to select it, it just checks if you have any dlc on and uses them if you do?
where are th PBO files located for the WS mission???
Yeah in SP it uses whatever DLCs you own
what's with the High Ping times on WS 20 player servers with nobody on them?
Please check your keybindings. The skip button is 'Use default action' under Common keybinds
It should be the same one as in vanilla Arma
Ok makes sense, I've changed my default action to "F" but it still says space. I tried other buttons but didn't think to do that. No way to make it display the actual keybind?
it seems the 'desert' module is not working in multiplayer instances (or moreso is only working locally)
I was trying it with a friend the other night and they could see the effects on their machine but I couldn't, upon loading the same scenario myself I'd then see the particles and effects of said module
yes it only works locally
any way to save in coop?
if I remember right, no
Use this scripting command in your own mission to get map icons.
_nul = call lxWS_fnc_mapIcons;
Use this scripting command to get the motion sensor squad radar.
[] call lxWS_fnc_showSensor;
Put these commands into the initPlayerLocal.sqf These should be helpful.
Use this instead.
[player, 0.04, 0.8, false] call BIS_fnc_sandstorm;
Run this on the server in initServer.sqf, it runs on each client player.
Do you mean initPlayerLocal.sqf?
This map is so good as a star wars map, really feels at home. Really good as an alternative to modded maps, feels much more polished overall. Throw a couple cruisers up in the air, and voila
How do you see how much money you have in the Extraction campaign
feel like i'm missing something cause it kind of just plonks you down in the desert with some tasks which is fine but also presumably i'm not supposed to assemble a 100 man platoon to do every task
aaah is the whole point that the tasks arent supposed to be completed
you just look for intel and stuff
because how are 4 people in a pickup truck supposed to defend against like 3 tanks attacking a checkpoint
Inventory menu (I) I believe
aaah thanks
yes, in middle / top of the inventory
makes me think i've missed a tutorial hmm
checkpoint defense task is optional™️ :p
and what about the 'tanks everywhere' thing
ah right ok that makes more sense
ngl the missions dont really seem achievable with 4 infantry soldiers
it depends a lot on your playstyle. it can be pretty easy or pretty hard. keep in mind you have access to the whole arsenal
if in doubt, pack a mortar, or some launchers into a car and drive to the mission area, etc
right but
idk
i hoped it was guerilla warfare
rather than the standard arma 'bring everything you can carry'
like irl surely you just send some people to go look at it and dont go over there if there's a tank platoon
idk maybe i need to focus more on scavenging bodies etc
your ai team mates will also level up and get a lot better at what they are doing.
ah right
yeah idk normally these kinds of campaigns have a fixed first mission which is easy
also the goddamn arma ai
:(
how do you stop them dying?!
they're literally running around in circles standing up while a technical attacks them
ig this is why the main campaign makes them immortal
also why cant you team switch on death
you mean if you die? that should be possible. there is a team switch button in the main menu
doesnt seem to work which is weird
ok theyve literally all died in like 3 minutes
argh this is why i never play campaigns
i always forget but
ffs
any time it's organic and coop it just falls apart
i strongly believe arma should be played with the debug console so you can tune it in realtime
how do i stop them dying :(
Don't bring them to a fight
I'm playing it by myself in SP and I'm doing just fine 😄
Or give them orders to stay low and always focus the big targets
But then again I have way more hours at singleplayer than multiplayer, I'm basically an AI Overlord by now
yeah same
but when i play singleplayer with a squad they kind of just end up cannon fodder
so just play it like it's SP?
I play it with an use the AI extensively. And I make a point of not letting them die 😄
Mods that help you command the AI easier are helpful, I use a few simple ones. But the real secret is put the AI in a position where they can win. Does it seem like the enemy AI is always better than yours? It's because they usually have a Squad Leader AI constantly barking out orders way faster than you ever could
The AI becomes pretty deadly when you use them right. Sometimes I let them do all the work for me and don't even fire a shot
so do i have to micromanage?
i have to admit i gave up on arma's ai pretty early
since the BI campaigns mostly treat them as scenery
i.e. make them immortal, use unitcapture and don't give them any important jobs
The WS terrain (I can't ever remember the name) is perfect for long range engagements, and there's usually almost always high ground above objectives. Pick a firing position, spread your AI around in good firing positions, prone, scout the objective, spot all the enemies, and then let them rip
And give them good optics
i do love the terrain
feels so much more like a place with some stuff in rather than a very condensed map where outside the boundaries it's just grass
Also technicals. AI are aimbots when operating the mounted 50 cal, use it 😄
Use the second truck
ig long range is realistic, i was trying to avoid spending money with the first mission since presumably at some point it actually explains what money is
and it seems like cheating to do that before then
Right now in my playthrough I'm midway through attacking an AA position, I'm using the normal ION technical and an UP-armored technical I stole 😄
since you could just wait for night time and use the super advanced csat NVGs etc
yup, stealing up-armored offroads is never wrong
I mean, the first thing the guy tells you when you start is to rearm at the arsenal, so.. 😄
That's what I did haha
and with 5 ai + you, it's possible to command 3 offroads
sure but doesn't it make it trivially easy?
(and I lowkey used Drongo's DYEL mod to go equip my uparmored technical with a gun shield and optic hehehe)
like you always kind of have to avoid abusing stuff in arma and play like it's real
well, you just said it's hard :p
when you play sensibly :D
i don't think this is abusing
it's just using the available game mechanics
same with the gundrone. thanks to its thermals, you get an amazing overview of the target area and can even carefully snipe the dangerous enemies
hmm ig my experience of arma is doing things you're not told to tends to result in brokenness
I mean you play however you want, you limit yourself as much as you want. I started out by just equipping all my guys with FALs and 1 Galil, no NVG's, just one suppressor for the marskman. I did take the gun drone tho 😄
Then I just looted
yeah, we did the same when testing :>
lol
this is why i prefer playing my own missions cause i can kind of choose how you're 'meant' to play it
rather than feeling like i have to play it like a game and win at all costs
Arma is designed to let you decide how you want to play. I love that Extraction opens up all the options to you, so you decide on the spot. And also adds tons of replayability value, as you can play it differently each time
sure but generally you have to play along and not abuse stuff
Jeeez hahaha
like if you have to attack a town in a scenario, you can probably just walk 20km round the other side of it and have an easier time but it's more fun if you play along with it
I mean, to each their own right? To me, if I wanted an on-rail experience I'd play a different game. Half my fun in Arma is planning and preparing for how to tackle an objective 😄
Agreed
no it's completely not on rails
it's up to you not to break it
that's normally true with arma
like most of the campaign can be bugged by doing stupid stuff so it's a bit like dnd, you have to not be an idiot
If you mean the East Wind Campaign, it's kind of different, because it's very much an on-rail thing. Sure, it gives you some apparent freedom sometimes, in the form of walking around a little, a bunch or just a lot, but it's still heavily scripted tbh. Extraction is a completely different deal
Important question for Lexx about extraction. Watch out, spoiler
||Just curious, is it wanted that you can enter the lone CSAT APC in the minefield task? Entered it and used it ever since to clear towns||
any campaign really
most of arma can be broken if you don't play nicely
Again, that's just up to the mission maker really
I still haven't seen that thing in my current playthrough, I'm starting to get worried 😄
On my last one (which I failed) it chased me down relentlessly from the very beginning. Then I learned to take a Titan launcher with me 😄
also i appreciate the comedic camera shake when you fire the xms
but when you switch to another unit, your camera still shakes when the old unit fires the xms
also i'm pretty sure this is just a straight bug but it seems the up-armoured vehicles are marked as 'armoured' so infantry don't shoot at them at all
even the exposed gunner
infantry can't penetrate the armor, which is why they dont shoot
soldiers with bigger guns will still engage
but they could shoot the gunner
his head is visible :p
hmm ok not when i was testing
and i mean
surely they should still shoot at an open driver port
that's only like half the size of the driver target when it isnt armoured anyway
yeah but there is little we can do.
as far as our knowledge goes, we tried everything.
Honestly, I've had no issue with it. Even today I was repairing my UP armored techie at the UN outpost when 3 Turas showed up. Just those 3 dudes shot up my techie pretty good, wounded my gunner even, and he had a gun shield. And there were bullet hits all over the armored plates. So...
yo
how do i get western sahara
i need it now
i need to fight for them so they get independence
you buy it, and then enable it in DLC tab of Arma 3 Launcher 😉
Explain what exactly you are trying to
i have the right to not react
btw
thats was a joke
of course imma buy it
imma buy it fron instant gaming
no
I would really like to see Sahara as the main addition to the game and not a separate DLC, BIS hear
yes
Maybe you could drop a list of those mods, because I too heavily struggle with commanding the AI. Therefore I usually order them to stay behind and not to shoot and try to do it myself. But that's of course jeopardizes the idea of AI team mate …
Well, the ones I'm using right now are very simple, but here goes:
- "Go Go Go Combat Mode" (very useful when you want the AI to disengage, and works just like any other command)
- "Fire on my shot! Engage mode" (self explanatory)
- "Swap Your Weapon" (mostly useful for when Team Switch is not an option)
Another one I'm not using but I'm sure could also be very useful:
- "Time Slowing Menu" (slows down time when you open the command menu)
All of these are by Ibragim, on the Workshop
- "Squad Feedback" by kenoxite is also useful, helps you stay more aware of the status of your AI teammates, and see what they see
Thx! Will check it out. First one I already had spotted as potential help
It's very helpful and works extremely well, it has gotten me and my AI out of some tough spots already in Extraction 😄
One I also like, but don't really use anymore (it's a bit outdated and buggy at this point) is "All-in-One Command Menu (Deluxe)". It kinda doubles as a SP cheat menu, and gives you a lot more options to command the AI
can someone send me al ink to the dlc
And there are many others, but I like to stick to the simple ones
@low mauve I have a very large (too large) collection of quality of life mods I've compiled over the last year or so. Check it out if you want: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2188349503
2036 I think
But don't quote me on it
Will do!
yes 2036
still no referendum in western sahara in 2036?
morocco promised it in 1991 and still none?
well
thats why i hate morooco
and you can keep that to yourself

