#arma3_config | ARMA | Page 68

dusk jungle Dec 24, 2016, 4:25 PM

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What's the point of _generalMacro property? Why mirror config entry name?

candid wave Dec 24, 2016, 4:26 PM

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I Just googled it yesterday, it has no function mod making wise. its some bis internal thingy.

dusk jungle Dec 24, 2016, 4:26 PM

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I'm wondering why BI need it

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Its not mentioned in the exe, totally not engine thing

kindred moss Dec 24, 2016, 4:29 PM

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@quaint bramble you can add more mags as compatible to the rifle, but what you CANT is to change the appearance of the magazine.. you can add 30rnd stanag mag to be compatible for example but when loading that mag, you will still see the drum mag, because its in the model and cant be changed

dusk jungle Dec 24, 2016, 4:32 PM

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So _generalMacro is used only in single place - BIS_fnc_diagMacrosVerify

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And what it does is just checks if _generalMacro is same as config entry name 🙄

kindred moss Dec 24, 2016, 4:35 PM

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I removed those completely they are useless and that function is not even explained anywhere, so no point bothering with it

minor saffron Dec 25, 2016, 2:53 AM

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Anyone know how to make opfor units wear blufor uniforms in config? Or do I have to convert the uniform to OPFOR?

hard chasm Dec 25, 2016, 3:09 AM

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side=0 | 1 | 2 | 3;

stoic lily Dec 25, 2016, 5:49 AM

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modelSides[] = {6};

hard chasm Dec 25, 2016, 7:44 AM

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class opfor_soldier;
class blufor_solder_spy: opfor_soldier
{
side =1; //west
displayname="sherlock holmes";
};

voila

kindred moss Dec 25, 2016, 8:38 AM

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hmm how does this actually work?

    selectionRArmWound1[] = {"r arm injury", "p arm injury"};
    selectionRArmWound2[] = {"r arm injury", "p arm injury"};```

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I dont see any of those in character template

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I understand what is r arm injury and l arm injury but wth is p arm injury and why is there array?

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The same is for right arm and right leg they are arrays, left one isnt

barren umbra Dec 25, 2016, 8:48 AM

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hey folks

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is it possible to have a gun arc that is independent from camera arc of the gunner?

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i want to create a gunship similar to AC-130

stoic lily Dec 25, 2016, 10:25 AM

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@hard chasm he is talking about the A3 clothing system - not unit sides

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@kindred moss mess up by BI? did you check both CAManBase and Man?

kindred moss Dec 25, 2016, 10:27 AM

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yeah thanks @stoic lily I seem to have looked at the Default, and was wondering whats the array about

stoic lily Dec 25, 2016, 10:28 AM

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well i guess to have multiple selections get the wounded texture applied

kindred moss Dec 25, 2016, 10:29 AM

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interesting, thought that it might be the case, but names of selections confused me

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I even >converted< the BI soldier to look whats that about and then was even more confused when I found nothing... but I failed, because I looked at the wrong class

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sorted now, thanks again

stoic lily Dec 25, 2016, 3:11 PM

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@kindred moss what was it?

kindred moss Dec 25, 2016, 3:14 PM

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@stoic lily nothing much, just if you define "your own" ( read custom named ) selection for wounds you have to define them in your soldiers base class to work properly

stoic lily Dec 25, 2016, 3:14 PM

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alright. do you see potential for more interesting design using more selections or sth?

kindred moss Dec 25, 2016, 3:15 PM

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possibly but seeing how the whole HSM is unrealiable and MC might show sometimes, sometimes not, I think its not worth it

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I mean we can go and precisely show wounds where you got hit by projectile or shrapnel, but its somewhat tedious to setup with main part of the tedious being custom selection and hitpoint definitions in uniform models

stoic lily Dec 25, 2016, 3:27 PM

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i see. thanks

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:19 PM

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hey folks, I'm working on a AC-130 gunship (just for giggles), I already put down memory points, but I'm having trouble understanding how to properly set up a turret that will be used by the gunner

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Right now the base C-130 I used has mainTurret that is assigned to the pilot it seems, should I create a new one?

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:21 PM

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look at the config of the tanoa blufor vtol and use that as template

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(google for AllinOne config so you can easily copy it)

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:21 PM

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LOL bis fuked that one BADLY

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:22 PM

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?

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:22 PM

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you cant lock on, cant stabilize the camera, camera arc is tied to tiny gun arc, its pretty much useless

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I'm trying to make a quick gunship just to learn how to set up turrets and stuff like that

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:23 PM

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so what? you just use the blackwhale or whatever its called as template and change it from there

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:24 PM

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I dont thing that model.cfg is included in template

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it gets rolled into p3d during binarization

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:25 PM

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well if you want to learn in general how turrets work, check the tank sample

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and https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:26 PM

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its cfgvehicle, I'm currently on model.cfg level of setting up my turret

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:26 PM

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it ties together

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animationsources you set in turret config are used in the model.cfg

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model.cfg for turrets is really easy. Just two rotations with full + - 360 rotation. The limits are done via config

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:27 PM

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class Animations
{
class Turret_2
{
type = "rotation";
source = "Turret_2";
selection = "tads_traverse";
axis = "tads_traverse_axis";
animPeriod = 0;
memory = 1;
minValue = "rad -360";
maxValue = "rad +360";
angle0 = "rad -360";
angle1 = "rad +360";
};
};

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like this?

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now my gunner should have Turret_2 set up in cfgvehicle?

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:28 PM

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the model.cfg looks right

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its only traverse of course

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thats what i use:
class PrimaryTurret {
type="rotationY";
source="tur1_trav_AnimSrc";
selection="tur1_trav";
axis="ax_tur1_trav"; //may also be just a point
animPeriod=0;
minValue="rad -360";
maxValue="rad +360";
angle0="rad -360";
angle1="rad +360";
memory = 1;
};
class PrimaryGun: PrimaryTurret {
type="rotationX";
source="tur1_elev_AnimSrc";
selection="tur1_elev";
axis="ax_tur1_elev";
angle0="rad -360";
angle1="rad +360";
};
'''

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:29 PM

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yeah I just got to that, I have all traverse and elevation stuff more or less figured out

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:30 PM

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i find the naming of the selections/axis very important when you have multiple turrets

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:30 PM

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carefully named

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:30 PM

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ok then config it is

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note - you can also reverse the "dependency". You can create a mount where the traverse is "after" the elevation

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:32 PM

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in C-130 the pilot has the mainTurret, so for the gunner I will have to create a new turret in cfgvehciles staring like this:
class Turret_2: NewTurret
with all the stuff after it

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:32 PM

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i assume the mainturret for the pilot is the new pilotcamera thing. So yes

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:33 PM

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class turret_2 should have animationSourceBody="Turret_2"; ?

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:33 PM

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you can name it whatever you want

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:34 PM

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it should be the same as source in moel.cfg I think

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:34 PM

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if you look at my example i would have to define
animationSourceBody="tur1_trav_AnimSrc"

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yes

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:35 PM

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ok just to make it clear, in cfgvehicles in a turret config you put animationSourceBody with name is then used as a source in model.cfg, right?

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:35 PM

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indeed

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:37 PM

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class TADSElev in model.cfg is anything important or I can name it wahtever i want?

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class tads_turret_traverse
{
type = "rotation";
source = "Turret_2";
selection = "tads_traverse";
axis = "tads_traverse_axis";
animPeriod = 0;
memory = 1;
minValue = "rad -360";
maxValue = "rad +360";
angle0 = "rad -360";
angle1 = "rad +360";
};
};

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:38 PM

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the animation class can be named whatever you want yes

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its name is not used anywhere. Only case would be when animating it externally via script (which is currently not possible for turrets)

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:39 PM

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class tads_turret_traverse
{
type = "rotation";
source = "Turret_2";
selection = "tads_traverse";
axis = "tads_traverse_axis";
animPeriod = 0;
memory = 1;
minValue = "rad -360";
maxValue = "rad +360";
angle0 = "rad -360";
angle1 = "rad +360";
};
class tads_turret_elevation
{
type = "rotation";
source = "Turret_2";
selection = "tads_elevation";
axis = "tads_elevation_axis";
animPeriod = 0;
memory = 1;
minValue = "rad -360";
maxValue = "rad +360";
angle0 = "rad -360";
angle1 = "rad +360";
};

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in theory I can now add a turret to cfgvehicles and test to see if it works

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:40 PM

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you use source=Turret_2 for both - unless you want a weirdly working turret you should change that 😉

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:42 PM

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Gun_2 and the have animationSourceGun="Gun_2"; on Turret-2 in cfgvehicles?

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:42 PM

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that would work yes

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are tads_traverse and tads_elevation are defined as bones? Just checking

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:43 PM

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yes they are

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:43 PM

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k

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:50 PM

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class CUP_AC130_Base: CUP_C130J_Base
{

        class Turret_2: MainTurret
        {
        body="Turret_2";
            gun="Gun_2";
            gunnerName = "Gunner";                
            animationSourceBody="Turret_2";
            animationSourceGun="Gun_2";
            weapons[]={"Laserdesignator_mounted"};
            gunBeg = "tads_camera_start"; //gunBeg = endpoint of the gun
            gunEnd = "tads_camera_dir"; //gunEnd = chamber of the gun
            
            proxyIndex=2;
            memoryPointGunnerOptics="tads_camera_dir";
            minElev=-50; maxElev=+30; initElev=-30;
            minTurn=3; maxTurn=173; initTurn=80;
            primaryGunner=1;
        };
};

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got this ATM

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:52 PM

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when using multiple turrets beware of inheriting from mainturret class - its defined such that it only works for the maingunner in a single-turreted tank (relating to primaryGunner, primaryObserver, commanding and so on)

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but this should work for now

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:54 PM

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should i then go with something like this: class Turret_2: NewTurret and set up the new turret from ground up?

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:55 PM

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i usually do that yes. - wether you use NewTurret or MainTurret doesnt really matter, you just need to be aware of what they contain. MainTurret is more specialised than NewTurret

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:56 PM

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I pretty much just want a guy that only has the optics and guns nothing too fancy

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Ill copy optics from some helo or soemthing

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:58 PM

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so you want him to controll everything at once?

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all guns?

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 12:59 PM

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yes, TADS for now, just for testing

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 12:59 PM

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that will only partially work - because you can only have one machine gun type and one cannon type per turret

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with 3 gun based weaponsystems its not going to work

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so you need at least one more turret

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anyway, go and test your turret first. its more something for down the line

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 1:29 PM

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@strange egret I dumped a config from the main turret into turret_2 with added optics, however i do not have the option to board as a gunner

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http://pastebin.com/BvyisGCF

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 1:57 PM

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add/change to the following:
hasGunner= 1;
proxyType= "CPGunner";
proxyIndex= 1;

and add a proxy with the name "gunner" into your p3d at the appropriate position

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idk if some of the stuff related to pilot something can interfere with turrets

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just noticed that there is gunnerNotSpawned and dontCreateAI for turrets... which seems fill exactly the same purpose. Good job BI

hot pine Dec 26, 2016, 2:14 PM

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is gunnerNotSpawned working after all?

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I saw it in plane & helicopter base class only

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with value = 1

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 2:22 PM

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no idea

hot pine Dec 26, 2016, 2:36 PM

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gunnerNotSpawned seems like new thing and maybe it's solution for dontCreateAI not working with AI too much

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 2:37 PM

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ok so I got the model working along with the seat of the gunner. However, I cannot turn my TADS camera

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 2:54 PM

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you need to make the gunnerview memorypoint part of the gun selection (or you create a new bone that is child to the gun selection bone)

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 3:59 PM

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does it have to be gunnerview? I though I could just put my memory point name in memoryPointGunnerOptics

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 4:01 PM

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of course you can use custom names. i was just assuming "default"

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 4:18 PM

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hmm still cant get the gunner's view to move around. its in the proper place though

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the memory points are assigned and all

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in the p3d

strange egret Dec 26, 2016, 4:30 PM

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have you tried creating abone of the view mem point and assign it to the gun bone? e.g. "gunnerview","turret2_elevation"

barren umbra Dec 26, 2016, 4:44 PM

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I did add a gunnerview memory point and rigged it to TADS elevetaion I'm pretty sure I set up the memory points correctly as I referenced multiple other vehicles and helicopters

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adding gunnerview and chanign display to dad didnt help

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I think that eirther axes are broken, I goofed at assigning stuff or messed up animations somehow

stoic lily Dec 27, 2016, 7:26 AM

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@Taro#1704 use dep3d with params to extract model.cfg from ODOL p3d

kindred moss Dec 27, 2016, 10:54 AM

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has anyone actually managed to get the injury work on each limb separately and if so a workin example would be nice

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I added custom hitpoints with proper visual and name linked to the uniform model but if I hit right arm injuries show in both, same for legs.. in fact no matter which limb left or right, it always shows on both

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now I wonder if I should remove custom selection for legs configured for each leg from the injury_legs selection, I dont know what else to do to make it work

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I wonder if this works at all

        selectionBodyWound = "injury_body";
        selectionLArmWound = "injury_hands";
        selectionRArmWound = "injury_hands";
        selectionLLegWound = "injury_legs";
        selectionRLegWound = "injury_legs";
        selectionLArmWound1 = "injury_hands";
        selectionRArmWound1 = "injury_hands";
        selectionLLegWound1 = "injury_legs";
        selectionRLegWound1 = "injury_legs";```

strange egret Dec 27, 2016, 11:22 AM

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thats because injury hands is one single selection containing both hands

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if you disect it in to left right for each, remember that you will multiply section count per infantry by 2

midnight niche Dec 27, 2016, 12:06 PM

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@kindred moss I managed to do it, but I used a lot of netcode and the hitPart event handler. It's by no means perfect, but it works for what I needed it. for.

_unit addEventHandler ["HitPart",{
    (_this select 0) call {
        params["_target","_shooter","_bullet","_position","_velocity","_selections","_ammo","_direction","_radius","_surface","_direct"];
        if(count(_selections) > 0) then {
            [_shooter,_selections select 0] remoteExecCall ["DS_fnc_onHitPartReceived",_target];
        };
    };
}];

this would tell the player that was shot exactly what body part was shot.

kindred moss Dec 27, 2016, 12:17 PM

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@strange egret what do you mean by mutiply section count by 2 ? I already have selection for each limb separate and have them L and R in injury_hands or injury_legs respectively. if that is what youve meant thats the least problem

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@midnight niche how is compatibility working with other mods, especially the ones with wounding systems? And I assume that this would cause a lot of net traffic

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even so that is just a script to get information about the part being hit, I am interested in solution for the model and config part, and if it cant work out of the box ( read vanilla ) Id rather not do it, not even BI did this and I see they have support for it, but I dont know if its working at all

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        selectionRArmWound = "injury_r_arm";
        selectionLLegWound = "injury_l_leg";
        selectionRLegWound = "injury_r_leg";
``` see what I mean? With this it should work but it doesnt... even with custom Hitpoints and `visual` param set.

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Soldier_Protection here something explained but really brief

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Im really interested to see this working and I might start the thread on BIF about it, asking for dev input

strange egret Dec 27, 2016, 12:33 PM

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the selection must be listed in sections in model.cfg to work

kindred moss Dec 27, 2016, 12:46 PM

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Like this? http://i.imgur.com/JcocaPL.png

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yeah I got that right

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http://i.imgur.com/dcXA0A9.png

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http://i.imgur.com/0Pa5zxP.png

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http://i.imgur.com/meavtEM.png

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However I am not sure why are proxies inside injury_hands and if I need to remove injury_l_arm and injury_r_arm from injury_hands and add proxies to both aswell... and then the same for injury_legs

foggy blaze Dec 27, 2016, 10:41 PM

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Can you increase the reload time on a launcher?

kindred moss Dec 28, 2016, 4:47 AM

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magazineReloadTime=1.0; time in second between mag reload or
reloadTime=1.0; time in seconds between each shot
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#magazineReloadTime.3D0

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guess for launchers first applies

foggy blaze Dec 28, 2016, 9:27 AM

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I thought those didn't work on launchers? I'll give it a try

foggy blaze Dec 28, 2016, 9:48 AM

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No, don't work

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I guess you'd have to make a different animation for it or something

kindred moss Dec 28, 2016, 4:28 PM

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anyone know a class for the "accented English" in Arma3?

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I thik its Altian English not sure

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"LanguageGRE_F" ?

thorn leaf Dec 28, 2016, 8:25 PM

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VKing, you can always adjust the animation speed

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As long as you aren't trying to make the reload something like 8 times longer. It shouldn't look horrible @VKing

foggy blaze Dec 29, 2016, 12:38 AM

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@thorn leaf Thanks, I'll look into that.

lunar steppe Dec 29, 2016, 3:20 AM

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anyone here know how to add optics to weapon in respawn loadout through description.ext?

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i already tried asking in #arma3_scenario but to no avail

wise fog Dec 29, 2016, 7:38 PM

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anyone know where I can find the configs for mounted machine guns, specifically the HMG_M2 ? My custom vehicle gun isn't working and I would like to take a look at it

wise fog Dec 29, 2016, 7:54 PM

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Can anyone point me in the right direction, my gun doesn't seem to work correctly, fires in single shot instead of full auto and the reload_anim source for animations doesnt seem to work, although it works if I just use a default M2

wise fog Dec 29, 2016, 8:13 PM

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fixed it - forgot to change the gun to my custom one in anim sources 😃

barren umbra Dec 30, 2016, 10:23 PM

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hey folks

kindred moss Dec 30, 2016, 11:39 PM

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possible to make soldiers more resistant or more durable in the config? Like a fatique/stamina modifier.. I know it was possible in A2, not sure about A3... like having specops which are more physically capable than regular soldiers?

kindred moss Dec 31, 2016, 1:28 AM

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class CfgMovesFatigue_spec: CfgMovesFatigue
{
    staminaDuration = 80;
    staminaCooldown = 10;
    staminaRestoration = 20;
    aimPrecisionSpeedCoef = 5;
    terrainDrainSprint = -1;
    terrainDrainRun = -1;
    terrainSpeedCoef = 0.9;
};``` would this work? 

And then just call it in soldiers class with `movesFatigue = "CfgMovesFatigue_spec";`

hard chasm Dec 31, 2016, 2:03 AM

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i think you've got the technials correct. whether it works, well, one word. goats.

kindred moss Dec 31, 2016, 2:17 AM

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yeah think I got it, its more tweaking now... default is staminaDuration = 60; and I got it on 80 which makes my specop rifleman burst run about 30 meters more before he runs out of breath

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and I think I reduced the restoration a bit, it works

hard chasm Dec 31, 2016, 2:33 AM

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congrats. one works then all work. only a question of degree no longer if it works at all.

sullen fulcrum Dec 31, 2016, 7:08 PM

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what is the name of the item model looking like a pouch

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like in this image to the left of the player http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oIm0nY2t7K4/VSO5yx0C5lI/AAAAAAAAAEo/f6QlIeWjUhI/s1600/lootNotFloating.PNG

untold temple Dec 31, 2016, 7:14 PM

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that's generally what weapon magazines look like when dropped on the ground

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so could be one of many items in the game

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But I think the model is \A3\weapons_F\ammo\mag_univ.p3d

sullen fulcrum Dec 31, 2016, 7:17 PM

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can I use this model and my item will stay a radio?

untold temple Dec 31, 2016, 7:17 PM

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I think so

sullen fulcrum Dec 31, 2016, 7:17 PM

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thanks 😄

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 11:57 AM

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hey folks. I have been messing around with TGP stuff and pilot camera. I really wanted to create a "turret" with cannon that follows pilot's/player's aiming in TGP view. However it seems that the turret does not get the info and keeps aiming straight. I would really prefer to do this via pilot TGP rather than standard turret. This would allow for a 1 man attack vehicles with turrets with would come in useful for the community (working moving gun on UH-144 Falcon from OpTre anyone?). Any idea how to link the gun to Pilot's TGP?

untold temple Jan 1, 2017, 12:05 PM

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Would need to use pilotCameraRotX and pilotCameraRotY animation sources in the model I imagine

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 12:21 PM

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hmm... either I goofed the turret setup or it didn't work. I guess I will create a new turret for testing to see if I set up correctly and it can even move

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ok, the turret does turn when I put it on a test. With means that pilotCameraRotX and Y might have not worked for some reason

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should I put pilotCameraRotX and Y in model.cfg as well?

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 1:06 PM

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I put the source in model config as pilotCameraRotX and Y, but no joy. The gun keeps firing forward. The turret setup (memory points skeleton etc. ) works.

strange egret Jan 1, 2017, 1:20 PM

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so it works if you use a regular turret, but for a targeting pod configuration it doesnt work?

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 1:22 PM

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yes

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it does not turn along with TGP view and gun keeps firing forward

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in vehicle config:

            gunBeg = "machinegun";
            gunEnd = "machinegun_dir";
            body = "mainTurret";
            gun = "mainGun";
            animationSourceBody = "pilotCameraRotX";
            animationSourceGun = "pilotCameraRotY";

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in model config animations:

        class MainTurret
        {
            type="rotation";
            source="pilotCameraRotX";
            selection="MainTurret";
            axis="MainTurret_axis";
            animPeriod=0;
            minValue="rad -360";
            maxValue="rad +360";
            angle0="rad -360";
            angle1="rad +360";
        };
        class MainGun: MainTurret
        {
            type="rotation";
            source="pilotCameraRotY";
            selection="MainGun";
            axis="MainGun_axis";
        };

strange egret Jan 1, 2017, 1:36 PM

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is the weapon defined in the turret or in the vehicle?

hot pine Jan 1, 2017, 1:45 PM

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afair you can't animate mem points responsible for pilot gunBeg & End for plane/helicopter class

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so right now it's impossible to do something like you described @barren umbra

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 2:08 PM

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@strange egret no its in the "hull" of the plane

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@hot pine this would mean it would be impossible to animate pilot TADS turret if someone ever modelled that. Also mounted laser designator does aim where pilot is pointing at

hot pine Jan 1, 2017, 2:10 PM

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different weapons, different simulations

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 2:15 PM

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getPilotCameraTarget AI aim how

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damn it. it was this close

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 2:57 PM

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GOT IT WORKING!

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I put the weapons in a turret and allowed for manual fire. Then I put pilotCameraRotX and Y as animation sources and it all works, even without anyone in the turret!

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 6:46 PM

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ok so seeing how I cant make the guns fire exactly where pilot is pointing at as there is no automatic leading correction I though I might try something different. I though I could try making the gun fire to the side by about -50deg from where the pilot is looking so it is kinda possible to aim your shots. I tried rotating the gunbeg and gunend memory points, no joy, I tried putting in the source this: source="pilotCameraRotX" -50; Didn't seem to work either. What I want is this:
http://i.imgur.com/FTaAOXl.png

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^seen from above

lone lion Jan 1, 2017, 7:05 PM

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Anybody knows if Eden Attributes are evaluated by default on unit placement?

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class Attributes:Attributes
        {
            class ObjectTexture: ObjectTexture {};
            class rhs_hideIFFPanel:rhs_hideIFFPanel {
                defaultValue = "1";
            };
            class rhs_openRamp: rhs_openRamp {};
        };

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I've changed default value of a checkbox, and while checkbox is now ticked by default, code is evaluated only after I click it

hot pine Jan 1, 2017, 7:58 PM

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code is added to mission.sqm only after non default value is set

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wouldn't it be easier to do it through animationSources class?

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at least you wouldn't have to inherit all attributes

barren umbra Jan 1, 2017, 8:08 PM

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What does the axisOffset do?

barren umbra Jan 2, 2017, 12:06 PM

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ok this is weird. For the pilot/hull I put the gunBeg and gunEnd to be the same as for the turret. The result is the turret properly fires sideways, but pilot guns keep firing forward. The pilot guns do fire from the same memory point as the turret guns. This is just bizzare.

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I tried using manual fire mode, but it turns out in manual fire mode the ballistic computer features like automatic leading are not applied, even if the weapon and ammo has them and you are locked on. If you switch to gunner's position you can use them no problem.

strange egret Jan 3, 2017, 5:12 PM

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no its not bizzare, its how the system works. Certain memorypoints are coded to be only read once on initialization and then keep this position. Because optimization.

low orbit Jan 4, 2017, 2:09 AM

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😄 @ optimization.

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Because.

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Seriously though, would be nice to have a review of these things. there are a few that come to mind..

dusk jungle Jan 4, 2017, 12:42 PM

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How do vest and headgear armor values work? Are they added to uniform unit's values or replace them?

dusk jungle Jan 4, 2017, 1:13 PM

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Found the answer @ https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Soldier_Protection#Armored_vest

Arma 3 Soldier Protection

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armor = 8; // addition to armor of referenced hitpoint

viral rapids Jan 4, 2017, 1:16 PM

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@dusk jungle iirc you also have to take the size of the plate inside the model in mind

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(don't nail me on that, i just remember we had some issues with a few "OP"-Vests)

dusk jungle Jan 4, 2017, 1:21 PM

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So vest geometry matters when calculating if projectile hit unit or not?

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I thought it was ignored and only checked against uniform model

viral rapids Jan 4, 2017, 1:27 PM

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I am pretty sure, that shots at the Vest will/can be blocked

barren umbra Jan 4, 2017, 4:42 PM

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I'm still working on that AC-130. I thought I may try just having an AI turret and order it to fire (CTRL+LMB) however the gunner cannot achieve lock onto the laser target for some reason, the target box is not full
when I'm the gunner I can lock onto stuff and get a full lock on

barren umbra Jan 4, 2017, 6:12 PM

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how do you add manual zeroing range values in the config?

untold temple Jan 4, 2017, 6:19 PM

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discreteDistance[] array

kindred moss Jan 4, 2017, 11:57 PM

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@viral rapids that does not apply on vests, they dont have geometry neither fire geometry lods, so they dont use materials you are referencing to. Vest armor is just hitpoint definition in the config nothing else with the model.

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armor defined in the vest config adds armor to hitpoints of the uniform basically so unit is more resistant to shots in the area covered by the vest

viral rapids Jan 5, 2017, 1:22 AM

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Are you 100% sure?

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 1:32 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Soldier_Protection

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^ that is how hitpoints work, no I am not 100% sure but maybe 99 😃

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armor plates on vehicles are different story they have thickness and armor material applies, and modeled plate thinkness relates somehow to the material making that part of the vehicle resistant to different hits

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and model thikness relies on material or vice versa, here Im not so sure

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and even so you wont model a vest to be 30mm thick right?

viral rapids Jan 5, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Material, yeah, could be it. Its about a year ago (when they updated the Vest stuff) that i looked at it

low orbit Jan 5, 2017, 1:50 AM

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I dont think it's actually in the model, but been that long since i looked also. so i didn't want to throw it out there haha.

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 1:51 AM

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yeah Im fiddling with vests now so Im fresh on the subject, no worries thats why were here for, to remind eachother at least

viral rapids Jan 5, 2017, 1:52 AM

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Yerp

hard chasm Jan 5, 2017, 2:01 AM

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jesus am i sick to death of scrolling back 6.000 lines to find new messages.

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 2:02 AM

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#search soon ™

hard chasm Jan 5, 2017, 2:02 AM

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bugger that

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how tuff can it be with this crappy messenger to just lock on top line of new msgs?

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 2:04 AM

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as in.. to be on the last message in channel when you connect? If you are far behind it should show you the link above chatbox to Jump to present or something.. #offtopic_arma 😉

viral rapids Jan 5, 2017, 2:12 AM

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@hard chasm Clearly your fault for not checking Discord every 30min!!!11oneoneonelevenonehundredeleven

hard chasm Jan 5, 2017, 2:34 AM

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think i'll stick to skype lag.

viral rapids Jan 5, 2017, 2:36 AM

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tbh: No. Screw Skype. aannddd we switched to offtopic in here 😄

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 2:38 AM

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you sure did, now tidy up

viral rapids Jan 5, 2017, 2:39 AM

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force me

gritty rune Jan 5, 2017, 3:33 AM

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on Vehicle in Vehicle transport, what can be put in the Huron actually? Also has anyone tried to make configs for ammo crates and such and load them via script?

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 3:40 AM

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afaik its comming into dev, crates will now be able to be loaded in vehicles and will show inside the vehicle... sorry dont know about Huron

gritty rune Jan 5, 2017, 3:42 AM

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thanks, that's good news

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 3:45 AM

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Added: It is now possible to transport objects in vehicles

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/140837-development-branch-changelog/?do=findComment&comment=3135732

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yw

gritty rune Jan 5, 2017, 4:17 AM

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I wonder how this is done, transporting of objects inside vehicles. I added a vehicleTransport entry to the unsung medical box, but see no way to load it in. Also blackfish canVehicleCargo medicalbox returns [false, false]. Maybe new commands are needed for that?

kindred moss Jan 5, 2017, 4:37 AM

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yeah I think so
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Vehicle_in_Vehicle_Transport

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checkout the discussion aswell

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/191678-vehicle-in-vehicle-transport-feedback/

gritty rune Jan 5, 2017, 4:47 AM

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thx, read through both, but didn't find an answer yet. I guess it will be eventually found on the wiki

barren umbra Jan 5, 2017, 2:44 PM

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I want to add counter clockwise loiter to the waypoints you can set for the UAV through the terminal. Does anyone know where those might be located?

sacred rivet Jan 5, 2017, 7:09 PM

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hey guys, is it possible to add optional addons (not required ones) to a config or not ❓

wise fog Jan 5, 2017, 7:17 PM

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@sacred rivet jump here - http://pastebin.com/JYL9DBif Try with the same name as the weapon, for the cfg weapons

sacred rivet Jan 5, 2017, 7:39 PM

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@wise fog the nade itselfs works, but only with or only without exile

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because exile is overwriting BI's config

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thats why I asked for optional addons

wise fog Jan 5, 2017, 7:41 PM

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ah

sacred rivet Jan 5, 2017, 7:41 PM

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because I want the exile config only optional (if its given), not forced as a requirement

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something like this:

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class CfgPatches
{
class Weapons_Grenades
{
units[] = {};
weapons[] = {};
requiredVersion = 0.1;
requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Weapons_F","exile_client"};
};
};

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but with

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optionalAddons[]={};

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or something like that

wise fog Jan 5, 2017, 8:12 PM

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why not build for base game and let exile overrides do their thing

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I don't think exile messes with other mods, as cup/rhs/ni arms etc all work fine

candid wave Jan 5, 2017, 11:05 PM

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when you guys port arma2 weapons/vehicles, is it better to scrap the whole damned arma2 config and rewrite brand new in arma3 specs, or try to jiggle the old config into new shape?

wise fog Jan 5, 2017, 11:56 PM

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new config

candid wave Jan 6, 2017, 12:00 AM

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yeah I'm slowly leaning towards of scrapping the old ones...

stoic lily Jan 6, 2017, 10:01 AM

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a mix of both

runic fable Jan 6, 2017, 4:24 PM

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new in cfgVehicles
featureType = 0;
cabinOpenSound[] = {"",1,1};
cabinCloseSound[] = {"",1,1};
cabinOpenSoundInternal[] = {"",1,1};
cabinCloseSoundInternal[] = {"",1,1};

low orbit Jan 6, 2017, 5:47 PM

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ooo... that actually looks useful.

strange egret Jan 6, 2017, 5:48 PM

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featuretype is for defining what drawdistance it uses (object or terrain) if i got that right

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which featuretype is quite a nondescriptive name for - im not surprised xD

low orbit Jan 6, 2017, 5:53 PM

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interesting, thanks for info. also, not surprised.

stoic lily Jan 6, 2017, 6:28 PM

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Added: A new setFeatureType script command (parameters: 0 - disable, 1 - object is always visible to object view distance, 2 - objects is visible to terrain view distance, limit is 500 map/static object and 200 dynamic objects including config features and auto features (flying helicopters, airplanes)) ```

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its quite confusing to me

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featureSize was introduced to show things still at far distance

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like the radio tower, or large buildings

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this new system sounds to me like its not going beyond any more

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like if you have TVD same as OVD there should be no difference in visibility

low orbit Jan 6, 2017, 6:30 PM

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yeah, im still not completely straight on this.

stoic lily Jan 6, 2017, 6:30 PM

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only if you have lower OVD, it makes those drawn also beyond

low orbit Jan 6, 2017, 6:33 PM

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i do have some large assets though, that do have 'vehicle' configurations, and i could see where this might apply. i think... that was my initial thought anyway. and now, im mostly just confused. will try again in a bit lol.

scarlet oyster Jan 6, 2017, 6:44 PM

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Perhaps it also has the minimum-1px-render thing enabled. I.e a helicopter so far away that it would be not even a pixel, is still forced to be 1px on the screen.

low orbit Jan 6, 2017, 6:47 PM

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aye, that is a reasonable thought.

sullen fulcrum Jan 6, 2017, 7:42 PM

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i hope this got introduced so they can much more dynamically ajust the draw distances based on diffrent situations

wild pasture Jan 6, 2017, 8:20 PM

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They removed the featureSize from a few things, and then added a featureType of 2 for those
Left is 1.66, right is 1.67.139899 (today's dev branch) https://www.diffnow.com/?report=cg1zq

low orbit Jan 6, 2017, 8:38 PM

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@wild pasture 👍

strange egret Jan 6, 2017, 9:48 PM

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now everyone will get forced to render my stolen and badly cobbled together sports car without LOD even at terrain view distance. HARHAR

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@stoic lily by default OVD is always lower than TVD. So by default it makes a difference. Also, objects can dissappear even earlier than OVD when the engine considers them not to be large enough.

kindred moss Jan 6, 2017, 9:55 PM

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dynamic simulation related stuff I assume?

strange egret Jan 6, 2017, 9:55 PM

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no, rendering related

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although it could also be related to dynamic - it would make sense

kindred moss Jan 6, 2017, 9:56 PM

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yeah but afaik they work on DynSim, so it has to be somehow related, well see thanks

ashen valley Jan 6, 2017, 9:57 PM

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does anyone know how to get an array of sectors from a mission?

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I've got these sectors that are created via init

strange egret Jan 6, 2017, 9:57 PM

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they also work on plane and sensor stuff, so thats the connection i made to that addition

ashen valley Jan 6, 2017, 9:57 PM

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but I can't figure out what their names are after they've been created

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to edit them properly

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    Parameter(s):
        0: BOOL

    Returns:
    ARRAY of OBJECTs```

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trying to do that

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but don't know how to write it properly

kindred moss Jan 6, 2017, 9:58 PM

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thats more of a #arma3_scripting

ashen valley Jan 6, 2017, 9:58 PM

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ah thanks m8

summer fulcrum Jan 6, 2017, 10:22 PM

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so it seems there isn't a HitGlass past 6, anything else I can use? Config: //Glass Damage START class Glass1_destruct { type = "hide"; selection = "glass1"; source = "HitGlass1"; minValue = 0; // upravit na 0.99 maxValue = 1; // upravit na 1.0 hidevalue = 0.99; }; class Glass2_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass2";source = "HitGlass2";}; class Glass3_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass3";source = "HitGlass3";}; class Glass4_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass4";source = "HitGlass4";}; class Glass5_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass5";source = "HitGlass5";}; class Glass6_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass6";source = "HitGlass6";}; class Glass7_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass7";source = "HitGlass7";}; class Glass8_destruct:Glass1_destruct{selection = "glass8";source = "HitGlass8";}; //Glass Damage END Error: ```14:17:59 DSR_SUV_F: Glass7_destruct - unknown animation source hitglass7
14:17:59 DSR_SUV_F: Glass8_destruct - unknown animation source hitglass8

wild pasture Jan 6, 2017, 10:42 PM

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Well do you have a HitGlass7 and HitGlass8 defined in the AnimationSources of your config?

summer fulcrum Jan 6, 2017, 10:46 PM

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nope because I am retarded

wild pasture Jan 6, 2017, 10:47 PM

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Happens 😛

summer fulcrum Jan 6, 2017, 10:47 PM

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thanks haha

hearty sandal Jan 7, 2017, 5:05 AM

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What controls the vehicle weapon sound volume inside the vehicle? My weapon firing is way too loud and Im trying to lower them.

hot pine Jan 7, 2017, 7:34 AM

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featureType seems like an fix for small objects being chopped by near zero pixel alghoritm

short nacelle Jan 7, 2017, 11:03 AM

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hey guys, anyone here ? need help with my config.

gritty rune Jan 7, 2017, 11:04 AM

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best to simply ask and then see if someone picks it up for an answer

short nacelle Jan 7, 2017, 11:08 AM

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okay, here is my config. http://pastebin.com/u4qYXXDR It is animation config I'm struggling with. I've tried posting it in #arma3_animation but people there seems to be just arguing over BI tools.

gritty rune Jan 7, 2017, 11:16 AM

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class Wave: this needs to be either inheriting from something or not inheriting at all, I guess

kindred moss Jan 7, 2017, 11:36 AM

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class Wave: CutSceneAnimationBase I guess from the tree you got there

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        weapons[] = {};
        magazines[] = {};``` no  blank `""` there

short nacelle Jan 7, 2017, 11:50 AM

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thanks, I fixed some of these issues, yet still not working. kinda lost over there.

kindred moss Jan 7, 2017, 1:05 PM

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Since its ace3 related I suggest you get to ace3.slakin.com and ask them about it or on their github

short nacelle Jan 7, 2017, 1:12 PM

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okay, thanks.

scarlet oyster Jan 7, 2017, 1:54 PM

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Is the anim itself working, or does the issue lie with ACE integration?

sacred rivet Jan 7, 2017, 3:00 PM

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could someone help me with this problem? http://www.exilemod.com/topic/20550-mad-arma-grenades/ (i think the question is to long to post it here as a full question)

short nacelle Jan 7, 2017, 3:22 PM

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Anim is working, its just issue with ACE interaction.

vestal vault Jan 8, 2017, 3:09 AM

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Does anyone know how to disable the collision particles in a car when you hit another object? And also how to disable the collision sounds? Thanks

hearty sandal Jan 8, 2017, 3:19 AM

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there are sound variables in each vehicle config for different type of collisions, the particles I think are related to the bisurf material types the hitgeometry has.

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example soundWoodCrash[] = {"woodCrash0",0.25,"woodCrash1",0.25,"woodCrash2",0.25,"woodCrash3",0.25};

hearty sandal Jan 8, 2017, 4:17 AM

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Would anyone have experience in MDF configs? Im building up my helmet mounted MFD but it seem so small and i'm wondering what controls the size of the helmet mounted MFD area.

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Also it seems that the MFD Scale is not square but a rectangular what seems to be in same ratio as my game resolution.

hearty sandal Jan 8, 2017, 4:45 AM

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to answer my own question.. 😄 helmetPosition[] = {-0.05,0.05,0.02}; the last number is the distance from camera. 0.02 is way too close and 0.2 way too far. Going to try something in between.

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helmetRight[] = {0.05,0.0,0.0};
helmetDown[] = {0.0,-0.05,0.0};``` this is the set up from vanilla helo. >_< Should have checked there first. Gives you square centered MFD area.

hearty sandal Jan 8, 2017, 6:43 AM

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Meh. refracting effects interferes with the MFD 😛 not that big a deal but would look better if it didn't.. https://feedback.bistudio.com/file/data/aiitt7ihvcqxwynjtgv2/PHID-FILE-qneag3nhud2v24adxa7a/Hud_Haze_Bug.png

barren umbra Jan 9, 2017, 5:36 AM

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how to make a value virtually infinite? I remember seeing something like "le+1" that had an effect like this

wild pasture Jan 9, 2017, 6:15 AM

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Maybe try duration = 10e10;

dusk jungle Jan 9, 2017, 6:29 AM

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-ln 0

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1e39

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both result in positive infinite number

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I think 3e38 would be shortest highest finite floating point number

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 10:25 AM

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https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=3e%2B038+seconds+in+years

Hah. 😄

kindred moss Jan 9, 2017, 10:53 AM

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virtually infinite?
virtually define a number that will never be reached, or hardly for the execution time, otherwise infinite is not a number its a concept... all good examples above

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∞ hah I see discord recognizes it, arma not so

strange egret Jan 9, 2017, 5:25 PM

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1e+1 - wow finally a definition of infinity i can comprehend 😄

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:12 PM

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Hi hows it going, I am trying to make a drone mod and have 4 rotors that need to be animated. I cannot seem to get them working. is there any specific names i need to name the rotors/axis'?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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Heya Duck.

You'll have to match the naming for the rotors between your model.cfg and what is stated in the config.
Have you had a look at the Test_Heli_01 from the Arma3 Samples?

The naming in there is in czech, but as long as you stick to it you will be fine for now. Once it is working you can look into changing it to something english. The config only handles main and aux rotor, so you will have to understand the existing configuration and expand on it.

Have you gotten a vehicle into the game before? If not, i'd say try doing that first to understand the process before you tackle your actual project.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:26 PM

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i have the drone in game and it flies just the rotor doesnt work :S Thanks for the quick reply! 😄

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:28 PM

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Ok, then focus on getting one rotor to work first using the arma3 samples as references. the model.cfg will set up your animation. Dig there and see if you match the naming of your selections in the .p3d to what is specifed in the model.cfg.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:29 PM

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Ok will scan through sample now 😄 ty!

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:29 PM

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also make sure your model.cfg actually is linked to the model. You can switch through the anims in Buldozer using middle mouse button and the mousewheel to animate. To have it linked it must be

class ADuckDrone
if your object is named ADuckDrone.p3d

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:31 PM

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Oh ok well that's one thing i did wrong 😄 also whilst im talking to you as a side question how would i go about making a signature? i saw the option in addon builder to use it

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Also i see in the sample model.cfg in the skeleton section "main rotor", "velka vrtule dive". is the same thing? or is this parent / child?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:35 PM

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My old addon tutorial covered the signature thing, but the pictures are gone and the tut is a bit wrong at times.

This will make your signatures. its fairly straightforward.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/DSUtils

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{
"parent bone", "new bone"
}```

untold temple Jan 9, 2017, 7:36 PM

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velka vrtule dive/rotordive is usually referring to animations that make the rotors flex and straighten out as the engine rpm increases

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:36 PM

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For example:

"LeftArm", "Torso",
"RightArm", "Torso",
"LeftHand", "Left Arm"```

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:36 PM

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aha! amazing thanks guys!

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so if my propeller name is "propeller1" i would put "propeller1" in this section?

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moreover do i have to seperate everything or can i not put it all in config.cpp

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:40 PM

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model.cfg is separate from your config.cpp.

Model.cfg stuff will end up inside your binarized .p3d (same with .rvmat), while configs will need to be read during startup of the game.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:41 PM

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oops

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class propeller1: Rotation
{
source="rotorH";
selection="main rotor";
axis="velka osa";
angle1="2 * 3.1415926536";
};
What is selection? The Bone / Part?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:51 PM

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Ah yes. In terms of model.cfg defined animations (and character animations) "selections" are synonymous with "bones".

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:51 PM

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Ahh ok and source?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:53 PM

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Source defines what makes this thing spin. The game will make sure that any animation with source "rotorH" will spin according to engine RPM/Userinput/helicopterstuff

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

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For whats it worth, my wreck of a tutorial from half a decade ago :D
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mondkalb's_Addon_Tutorial#Model.cfg

I'm sure these days theres newer and more accurate ones...

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Mondkalb 21:29, 22 October 2009

Yeh, ok. Thats hella old. 😳

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:55 PM

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😄

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i think if i complete this mod others will be easier xD

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:57 PM

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Guaranteed.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 7:58 PM

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hmmn addon is not building. error code 1 on cfg convert :S

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 7:59 PM

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Also I think there is a misunderstanding: if your rotor is called "propeller1" in Object Builder, then it should be called

selection="propeller1";

The classname of your animation:
class propeller1: Rotation

can be arbitrary.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:00 PM

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oh yeh i just did that to keep it simple for me

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class propeller1: Rotation
{
source="rotorH";
selection="propeller1";
axis="axis_propeller1";
angle1="2 * 3.1415926536";
};

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:01 PM

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👍

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:01 PM

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i have axis_propeller1 in my memory lod on oxygen2

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have you ever encountered that error ? failing to build on cfgconvert?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:02 PM

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Oh yes. It means your config binarization failed. usually this is due to bad form. I.e missing semicolon or bad class inheritance.

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AddonBuilder is very crude here and provides no feedback as to where the error is coming from.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:03 PM

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yep

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:04 PM

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There are community-made tools out there that help you out in these cases.
https://dev.withsix.com/projects/mikero-pbodll/files

I hear pboProject is the magic.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:07 PM

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so it will tell me the line?

untold temple Jan 9, 2017, 8:08 PM

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usually does yes

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:18 PM

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ok new issue xD my drone inherits from the raptor drone class but apparently it's not in master.cfg

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:38 PM

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@scarlet oyster

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:40 PM

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🦆 🦆

When packing the addon, anything that happens in model.cfg space is treated similar to config.cpp, if not actually a lot stricter. If a class in your model.cfg does not exist, but you inherit from it, it will likely not work.

Your option here is to either get the model.cfg from that raptor drone and place it somewhere in a folder higher up as model.cfg, or incorporate it directly.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:41 PM

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will bohemia allow me to do that?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:41 PM

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It falls under APL afaik, so it will be fine.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:41 PM

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ok 😄

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erm the drone doesnt have a model.cfg :S

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:43 PM

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Remember: The model.cfg is integrated into the .p3d.
But community tools (same link) will allow you to extract a very good guess of what it is from the .p3d.

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However, for the sake of exercise, try to write the model.cfg from scratch yourself. The model.cfg of the sample helicopter serves as very good reference.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:47 PM

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ok now what is skeletoninherit?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:49 PM

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An old school way to inherit skeleton bone hierarchy.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:49 PM

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do i need it?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Not for your project.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:50 PM

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nice

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sectionsInherit?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Exactly the same.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:51 PM

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so i dont need skeleton or sections?

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:53 PM

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Just for sections instead of skeletons.

An example would be:

{
    class Ant
    {
        [...]

        SkeletonBones[] =
        {
            "Torso", "",
            "Leg1", "Torso",
            "Leg2", "Torso",
            "Leg3", "Torso",
            "Leg4", "Torso",
            "Leg5", "Torso",
            "Leg6", "Torso"
        };
    };

    class Spider
    {
        [...]

        skeletonInherit = "Ant";
        SkeletonBones[] =
        {
            "Leg7", "Torso",
            "Leg8", "Torso"
        };
    };
};```

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I just hope there aren't any biologists around here at this time...

low orbit Jan 9, 2017, 8:54 PM

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😄

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:55 PM

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im so confused... do i need to include the code you just sent?

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sorry for all the questions

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:56 PM

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My code was just an example to demonstrate the purpose and usage of skeletonInherit.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 8:56 PM

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ok but do i then need parts or skeleton or can i just remove it

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 8:58 PM

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Not sure what you mean. But I get the feeling you are a few steps ahead of yourself here.

I'd recommend you'd do a quick exercise project aimed at working out an understanding of model.cfg before you advance with your quadcopter.

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Make a simple car, it can be buttugly and doesnt really need to look like a car at all.

Then focus entirely on model.cfg. Getting the wheels to spin, steering wheel to steer, speed dials to show you the speed, etc. Then your understanding will good enough to tackle your current project.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 9:00 PM

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ok

scarlet oyster Jan 9, 2017, 9:01 PM

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Here, let me quickly time-travel even further back:

http://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=ofp:modeling:brsseb_lesson2

beware, this is an OFP tutorial from 2001/2002 IIRC. So the contents may still be relevant, but some of the stuff written there is no longer working at all. But the idea behind the tutorial is still good.

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Basically: The point is not the car, but the understanding of how to make a car.

rare drift Jan 9, 2017, 9:01 PM

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ahh

jade brook Jan 10, 2017, 12:26 AM

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@strange egret Dunno if trolling, but 1e+1 is just 10 and not infinite. xEy = x*10^Y

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 3:16 AM

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but ofc he was

wise fog Jan 10, 2017, 4:29 AM

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Speaking of cars, I put off the speed dials until as late as possible

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Dont know how to properly get them to work well with the actual speed besides start.. Restsrt etc

stoic lily Jan 10, 2017, 11:21 AM

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Config tutorial - request for input what to focus on
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/201527-config-tutorial-request-for-input-what-to-focus-on/

in case you guys have anything you want me to elaborate on

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Config tutorial - request for input what to focus on

As tribute to Bushluker's legacy I want to give back once again some of more insights and experience about config modding. Therefore input from ...

scarlet oyster Jan 10, 2017, 2:17 PM

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Curious to see your take on good config design!

stoic lily Jan 10, 2017, 2:38 PM

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dont copy paste. no code smell. good inheritance design. code separation - to name a few very briefly

somber cloak Jan 10, 2017, 2:39 PM

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good file indentation

stoic lily Jan 10, 2017, 2:39 PM

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there are tools for that 😛 but agreed

somber cloak Jan 10, 2017, 2:40 PM

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I know,. but when people post stuff asking for help and the first thing you have to do is fix their indentation to make it elligible,. well you get my point 😄

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also when using tools like pastebin to set proper syntax highlighting

candid wave Jan 10, 2017, 2:41 PM

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broken indentation on forum posts is more like a normal way of doing things (ie wrong) 😃

somber cloak Jan 10, 2017, 2:42 PM

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hehe

candid wave Jan 10, 2017, 2:42 PM

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usually when I'm fixing someones longer than one page cpp, I run it through uncrustify.

viral rapids Jan 10, 2017, 2:42 PM

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class externalBaseClass;
class externalCoolClass: externalBaseClass {```
I hate it

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class externalCoolClass: externalBaseClass
{```
i love it

somber cloak Jan 10, 2017, 2:42 PM

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^^ this too

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reindenting a file usually fixes all that though

candid wave Jan 10, 2017, 2:49 PM

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MergeConfig/ingame config tweaking this would be very helpful, I havent timed how long it takes for my DevSurf computer to start arma but it feels like forever. when you tweak configs and restart for the 10th+ time... argh.

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 3:02 PM

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class something : something_else {};
    class something_else : not_like_this_xd {
};```

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I hate that organically

atomic yoke Jan 10, 2017, 3:06 PM

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Does anyone know if there's a way to remove the Gorgon/Pandur's turret via the config? I'm trying to make a basic troop transport with no luck

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 3:17 PM

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not possible to remove turret, you can remove the weapon and ammo so it cant shoot but not cant change the model trough config or any other way

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if I understood you right

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you can also remove the gunner position altogether in the config by not defining turret config part for it

atomic yoke Jan 10, 2017, 3:30 PM

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I didn't explain it very well, sorry. On the wiki I read that there was a script animation to hide the turret, but I can't quite figure out how I'd do it in the config.

ashen valley Jan 10, 2017, 3:33 PM

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Hey guys

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I'm having a huge issue

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compiling my mod

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MakePbo: Building entries:...
$PBOPREFIX$ : configuring
CfgCLibLocalisation.hpp : ignored or merged
CfgCLibModules.hpp : ignored or merged
config.cpp scanning config.bin.cfgPatches...
ok
config.bin: 'Permission denied'
config.bin
In File P:\pr\PRA3\addons\PRA3_Server\config.cpp: Line 21 Cannot write to file

Generalised lintcheck error


Press the ANY key

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using MakePBO

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getting that error

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saying permission denied

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 3:46 PM

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why dont you use PboProject I dont know if I ever used makepbo directly

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@atomic yoke where exactly did you read that?

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Im not sure if its possible but that would be animationSources property

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in fact anything that is possibe to do with BI vehicles for the most part is possible to do in the Virtual Arsenal or Garage, so check there, and if you cant hide the turret there then its not possible at all

scarlet oyster Jan 10, 2017, 4:11 PM

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Align the = symbols, goddamnit. 😛

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(On the earlier topic of config formatting)

somber cloak Jan 10, 2017, 4:12 PM

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hehe

atomic yoke Jan 10, 2017, 4:24 PM

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@kindred moss I've managed to hide the turret using: this animate ["HideTurret",1]; Just need to workout how to get rid of the gunners seat and put that in config form

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http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/94973258573393005/7BB93913BC0E3C104210C59FF51262748F0D407B/

sullen fulcrum Jan 10, 2017, 4:40 PM

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@atomic yoke you could try to play around with hideSelection:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/hideSelection

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@atomic yoke you could try to play around with hideSelection:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/hideSelection

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 5:25 PM

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well that shouldnt be the selection but the turret itself

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just make a config patch and remove the main turret from it, in fact do that in your own class after you av inherited the main one from the game

strange egret Jan 10, 2017, 5:28 PM

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@jade brook that was the joke... because thats what the one with the question wrote

jade brook Jan 10, 2017, 5:41 PM

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Jokes are supposed to be funny.

strange egret Jan 10, 2017, 6:03 PM

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if you dont get the joke, thats not my fault

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not reading context also is not my fault

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 6:09 PM

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get a room you two

viral rapids Jan 10, 2017, 6:11 PM

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why?

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 6:15 PM

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gooby pls

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

jade brook Jan 10, 2017, 6:27 PM

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Jokes are supposed to be funny.
That's just what they told me when I last tried to make a joke.

ashen valley Jan 10, 2017, 7:17 PM

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is anyone like... really talented with understanding pathing

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if you are please send me a pm

viral rapids Jan 10, 2017, 7:30 PM

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pathing?

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 8:55 PM

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let me try to guess the problem, his addon path or namespace isnt right god knows whats he got in the prefix inside pboprefix file, packs with makepbo no idea why... told him to try ~~makepbo~~ pboProject he totally ignored

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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good luck

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ps: dont you have dev crew dealing with this or arent you PR:A3 dev, how come you dont know this?

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PBOPREFIX

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there for a start

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/pboProject

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CMA:DevelopmentSetup

gilded lake Jan 10, 2017, 9:28 PM

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it would make more sense that he's talking about AI pathing since the PBOPREFIX stuff is fairly well known.. I mean you open up a PBO and you have it before your eyes 😃

rigid token Jan 10, 2017, 9:31 PM

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my guess is that it is simply another skeleton you can inherit from. and the reason it's done this way, also guess, is because model.cfg are baked into the model so probably don't support global inheritence like a normal config. it's more like a closed space

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 9:36 PM

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@gilded lake he is the dev for PR Arma3 mod, or whatever.. no NPC involved

solar fox Jan 10, 2017, 10:04 PM

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anyone got a good config cpp for the sun because my map is way to bright (clutter & satmap when flying) its to bright

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http://pastebin.com/CZ3Ucd5S

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that doesnt set the position of the son or? so i could tune all to a good parameter and the run stays the same in movement or ?

kindred moss Jan 10, 2017, 10:46 PM

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I think you may have better luck asking that in #arma3_terrain this is more of a general config stuff not specialzed to terrains

wise fog Jan 11, 2017, 1:07 AM

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what does pitch do for cfgSounds?

low orbit Jan 11, 2017, 1:09 AM

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defines the pitch.

somber cloak Jan 11, 2017, 1:09 AM

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😂

wise fog Jan 11, 2017, 1:19 AM

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yes but does it go 0 to 1, does a certain range make it better, worse etc

low orbit Jan 11, 2017, 1:31 AM

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I have no clue, not a sound guy as it were ... shot in the dark again, i'd assume 1.0 is normal pitch and you can skew it up/down from there. whether that is worse or not, depends on desired affect. in general though, just changing the numbers on a few things and testing it will tell you lots of things.

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 10:54 AM

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Hey guys! for memoryPointsGetInCargoDir where do i put this in my oxygen 2?

viral rapids Jan 11, 2017, 11:14 AM

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MemoryLOD iirc

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memoryPointsGetInCargo -> Place where the "person" gets in...
memoryPointsGetInCargoDir -> ... and facing that direction

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 11:16 AM

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ok so only 1 point needed for this?

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also my rotors aren't spinning and i have tried all i know :S any tips?

viral rapids Jan 11, 2017, 11:32 AM

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nope

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 11:36 AM

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?

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 1:27 PM

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I have a drone and need to make the necessary lods for the 4 rotors it has and need to know if i need to have any special naming for these lods and axis' for the rotors. is there any special thing i need to put in the model.cfg or config.hpp? i have the drone ingame, it flies but the only thing i need to know how to do is to make it's rotors turn on engine start. Please help!!!

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 1:57 PM

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Have you done the car-model.cfg project?

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 5:25 PM

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yes indeed however i am still confused... its not the matter of doing it the way its normally done in this case :S its that i need to add extra rotors and i am still confused :S

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:04 PM

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The car project should have given you a good understand of model.cfg working to be able to abstract this onto the quadcopter

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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i'll take another look but i understand bones and sections but even though i have everything setup it doesnt work

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here's a paste of what i got for the copter : http://pastebin.com/5d9qaUtd

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im sorry normally im good at this kind of thing but im so confused with this xD

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 6:35 PM

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@scarlet oyster

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:37 PM

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1.) Get an addon tag. :)

so that its not called quadcopter, but for example duck_quadcopter. To avoid accidental duplication.

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http://www.ofpec.com/tags/

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2.) you dont need the sections[] in model.cfg

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Not sure where you are getting some of these parameters

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animated= and simulation= have no effect at all in the model.cfg

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The animation sources you used are wrong. They dont exist in the engine, so they wont move.

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its not rotor, but rotorH

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 6:42 PM

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Thanks! will make the neccessary adjustments now!

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Testing now.. thanks for helping i appreciate your time!

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ok @scarlet oyster you are a legend!!! they are now animating. however, they are not spinning round the axis' they are spinning as if the body of the drone is the axisd

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http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/100603056089976963/BEDA6777892EDD50DA25D22CACFD5B8ED36A1D80/

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:58 PM

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Its a simple fix, but you should be able to find it yourself.

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Go through the logic of your model.cfg for each animation and find out where it will stumble across something missing.

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:00 PM

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ok..

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:00 PM

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I think this will help you better in understanding the logic going on here, instead of me just telling you "fix this, fix that". 😛

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:00 PM

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true 😄 i'll try googling it

viral rapids Jan 11, 2017, 7:01 PM

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remove "googl" add "test"

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:01 PM

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ok fine testing it

viral rapids Jan 11, 2017, 7:01 PM

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You learn much much more by just testing/playing around

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:01 PM

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Look for a mismatch between what you have configured in the model.cfg and what your model has in the various technical lods. Google will likely not help you at all here.

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:03 PM

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is it trying to rotate around my collision box or something?

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Most engine techs assume [0,0,0] as a position for something that they cannot otherwise find.

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:04 PM

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oh wow i think i know it

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:04 PM

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so here everything is rotating around X=0, Y=0, Z=0

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:04 PM

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but i already have my axis'

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Check for typos.

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:07 PM

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http://imgur.com/2qQtkHe

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no typo?

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:07 PM

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Are they in the memory lod?

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:07 PM

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yeh

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:09 PM

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ok, then the model.cfg is correct. Check if axis_propeller1 is in the correct position for propeller1

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could be that prop1 is rotating around axis3

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:09 PM

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maybe xD

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i cant believe i missed that

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:11 PM

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ha!

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:11 PM

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i feel like such a damn stupid idiot

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:12 PM

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But it means your model.cfg game is good for this project. 👍

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:12 PM

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yeh!

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gonna test now

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then i got another issue xD

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but the last issue!

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next issue is that i want a cargo passenger AND a person able to control it as a drone

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Works! thanks @scarlet oyster

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now for that next issue :S

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:16 PM

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Have a look at how the Arma3 drones are configured for the drone-remote-stuff

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and look at the A3 sample car for the passenger seat

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:16 PM

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so i just cross reference and add the missing line?

scarlet oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:16 PM

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In a way. You'll have to see what it does. Likely it will be some few lines.

rare drift Jan 11, 2017, 7:17 PM

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ok

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ok i can get in! problem :S my character stays outside? xD hes just standing there lol

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we are getting there though @scarlet oyster

sour steeple Jan 12, 2017, 12:14 AM

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now i hate to ask a question as it may be regarded as noob but both me and my friend are having trouble with adding a costum helmet into the game. We have a model.cfg and .p3d with one lod as center geometry and one named selection as head. but we dont know how to get it into the game as a wearable headgear. If anyone is willing to walk us through or send us a reference it would be very much appreciated.

kindred moss Jan 12, 2017, 1:44 AM

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Arma 3 Sample models might give you idea

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Steam > Tools and find that and download, there is working example there

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need geo lod with autocenter set to 0 or your helmet will be on your * soldiers jewels

sour steeple Jan 12, 2017, 2:04 AM

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Oh ok thanks man

viral rapids Jan 12, 2017, 9:16 AM

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@Br3nd0n264#2474 (aka r2d2) Don't ask the same question in x other channels pls, thx.

dusk jungle Jan 12, 2017, 1:23 PM

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I've been thinking about fading particles recently and how it could be controlled, with as little changes\work from developers

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Maybe particle should fade only if its time to live equals fade time

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Fade time is like 1 second now or something

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Why fade particle if it will disappear earlier anyway, why fade it if it should live longer and will continue existing even after fully faded

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Maybe we can request this kind of check to determine if particle should be set to fade

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Of course having dedicated fade time config value and value in ParticleArray would be better and more flexible, but I'm basing suggestion on having devs do as little changes as possible

dusk jungle Jan 12, 2017, 2:27 PM

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Or better yet, fading should happen before X seconds left to live, where X is fade time

fathom thorn Jan 12, 2017, 6:28 PM

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Anybody know how I can add regular vehicle explosion to my tank? its not in the sample files. Mine just starts burning when killed

viral rapids Jan 12, 2017, 6:33 PM

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erm, there was something in the config... something with explosionDamage or something like that

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Try:


        fuelExplosionPower = 1000;
        secondaryExplosion = 1000;

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@fathom thorn

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( i remember, that i set this to 0, to disable explosions of the vehicles (as you said, it only sets the Vehicles on fire))

fathom thorn Jan 12, 2017, 6:40 PM

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aha

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Thanks I will try 😃

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Got it. fuelExplosionPower does nothing though

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I needed to set secondaryExplosion to -1

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secondaryExplosion
float

Determines the strength of the explosion effect when the vehicle is destroyed.

secondaryExplosion = -1; // When negative number is set, "explosion power is calculated from fuel and ammo cargo, multiplied by absolute secondaryExplosion value"
secondaryExplosion = 0; // When set to 0, secondary explosion is disabled, vehicle will burn when destroyed (if destrType is "DestructDefault" or "DestructEngine") but not produce an explosive effect.
secondaryExplosion = 1; // When positive number is set, "explosion power is taken from hit property defined for FuelExplosion class in CfgAmmo. For this FuelExplosion needs to be defined. The name FuelExplosion is hardcoded and can not be changed"

viral rapids Jan 12, 2017, 6:49 PM

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Where is that text from?

fathom thorn Jan 12, 2017, 6:53 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Config_Properties_Megalist#secondaryExplosion

runic fable Jan 12, 2017, 7:46 PM

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new

            class Incapacitated: HitLegs
            {
                armor = 1000;
                material = -1;
                name = "body";
                passThrough = 1;
                radius = 0;
                explosionShielding = 1;
                visual = "";
                minimalHit = 0;
                depends = "(HitHead * 2) + HitBody + ((HitHands + HitLegs) / 2) + Total";
            };```

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@strange egret

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        cabinCloseSound[] = {"A3\Sounds_F\air\noises\Plane_Fighter03_CabinClose",1.77828,1,40};
        cabinOpenSoundInternal[] = {"A3\Sounds_F\air\noises\Plane_Fighter03_CabinOpen",10,1,40};
        cabinCloseSoundInternal[] = {"A3\Sounds_F\air\noises\Plane_Fighter03_CabinClose",10,1,40};

strange egret Jan 12, 2017, 7:51 PM

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interesting. Now the question is wether incapacitated causes death or an incapacitated state that we know from some missions

strange egret Jan 12, 2017, 8:18 PM

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also noteworthy >> +Total";

hot pine Jan 12, 2017, 11:13 PM

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I think it's only for handle damage purpose

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so instead doing calcs in EH, they are just checking amount of damage in one selected hitpoint

dusk jungle Jan 13, 2017, 9:04 PM

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Who thought that naming compatibleItems as array form and class form with same name was a good idea?

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You can't patch compatibleItems to become array if it was already defined as class and vise versa, right?

untold temple Jan 13, 2017, 10:03 PM

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@dusk jungle array form was the original way of defining what attachments could go on weapons. But it was unworkable for making attachment addons that could be cross-compatible with other addons (since arrays get overwritten). So they developed the class-based version later

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class version overwrites the array if if is defined for a given slot

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it's how things like CBA Joint Rails adds addon compatibility to BIS weapons (which still use the array)

dusk jungle Jan 13, 2017, 10:12 PM

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Joint Rails use class form, dumping BIS slot definitions

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The question is why couldn't they name it compatibleItemsClass or something

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So you could have both

untold temple Jan 13, 2017, 10:29 PM

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class form was designed to supersede the array form completely. There should be no reason to have both forms. Why BIS haven't implemented it on their weapons is anybody's guess

dusk jungle Jan 13, 2017, 10:39 PM

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Well BIS still use array form

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And there is no way to patch array into class without making new class completely (what joint rails does)

zinc pike Jan 15, 2017, 10:06 PM

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G'day everyone.

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I need help.

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I need to change the faction of some units and enable a mod for Zeus.

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But when I do so the models are not loading correctly anymore.

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Thanks in advance for helping me out.

kindred moss Jan 15, 2017, 10:27 PM

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config example?

zinc pike Jan 15, 2017, 10:34 PM

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Wait a minute.

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Original config.

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Ah, come on, that character limit is bs.

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It's the same config as in demain2435's police mod.

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Because my mod is just a texture mod of it.

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I replace TWest with TGuerilla.

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And of course put in "myObject1, myObject2" in
class CfgPatches {
class demian2435_police_mod {
units[] = {};
weapons[] = {};
requiredVersion = 0.1;
requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Weapons_F", "a3_weapons_f_beta", "A3_Weapons_F_gamma", "A3_Characters_F", "A3_Characters_F_beta", "A3_Characters_F_gamma", "A3_Soft_F", "A3_air_f", "A3_Air_F_beta"};
};
};

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Where it belongs.

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Then I packed everything with the Addon Builder together again.

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But fo´r some reason this minor modification causes the models not to load correctly anymore.

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Anyone still here.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 12:53 AM

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Oh my... I dont know from which side to begin here.

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modelSides[] = {2,3}; in the config, search for it and change that to 6 ( all sides )

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also why TWest, use side = 1;

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#side

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you also need to change side in the cfgFactions

wise fog Jan 16, 2017, 3:10 AM

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What defines how much your vehicle can smash through gates etc, how would I make the wheels a bit more beefy?

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as well as what defines how well a vehicle sticks to terrain

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like flying over bumps instead of sticking over it

rain vault Jan 16, 2017, 3:26 AM

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Well, the mass coupled with the material on the model should define how well it will hit through a wall?

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Maybe try calling https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setMass on the model to test?

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@wise fog This is what you are looking for in terms of how well it "sticks" to terrain

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#envelope

wise fog Jan 16, 2017, 3:31 AM

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@rain vault Thanks

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I also had tight springs so that helped as well

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 12:18 PM

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Thanks for trying to help me, but I have no idea what you are talking about.

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I'm not that much into coding and scripting, just into graphics and modelling.

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I'm just trying to satisfy the needs of my mod subscribers.

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Or maybe I have an idea.

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 12:41 PM

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I'm still running into the same problem.

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:/

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http://imgur.com/a/ykMRg

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Here's the problem I'm running into.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 1:00 PM

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Because my mod is just a texture mod of it.``` so youre trying to repack someone elses mod. Thats a nono

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 1:01 PM

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It's a retexture.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 1:01 PM

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why do you have script error then and models wont load?

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the course of action is like this

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you make you mod to require the mod you make retexture of

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and make separate classes or add your retextures to vehicle customization options in the config

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wrong is to unpack someones mod and try to repack it with your stuff

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here a few links

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/151777-tutorial-simple-re-texturing-guide-from-start-to-finish/

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Vehicle_Customization_(VhC)

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 1:05 PM

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I've never repacked someone elses mod and sold them as my own.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 1:05 PM

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sold? Who is selling mods

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 1:06 PM

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Noone. It's just an idiom.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 1:06 PM

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oh well do you have explicit permission ot repack that mod from the author?

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chances are its binarized and you wont be able to do it anyways

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mondkalb's_Addon_Tutorial start from there, with zero knowledge about how addons and mods/config works I wont be able to help you much.. you must learn it yourself

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 1:09 PM

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What I've done is a retexture, which is working. I've credited the original author properly. Now I simply want to make the police an independent faction and make the mod enabled for Zeus.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 1:10 PM

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yeah thats good but make your own mod with your own tag which will require original mod to run

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thats a proper way of doing things

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 1:10 PM

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Thanks for nothing.

kindred moss Jan 16, 2017, 1:11 PM

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for nothing? Oh well Im so triggered 😄

unreal musk Jan 16, 2017, 1:21 PM

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He's been messaged.

somber cloak Jan 16, 2017, 1:22 PM

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kilésengati - Today at 1:05 PM
I've never repacked someone elses mod and sold them as my own.

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srsly? gtfo.

zinc pike Jan 16, 2017, 1:27 PM

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Yeah, I think I can't do anything with such kind of community anyways.

sage steppe Jan 17, 2017, 10:29 AM

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@zinc pike Most senior developers frown upon repacking someone's pbo. As @kindred moss you probably should make a separate pbo with the original as a dependency however as long as you maintain credits AND state what you edited in a comment, it isn't too bad

unreal musk Jan 17, 2017, 10:39 AM

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I've discussed it with him via PM. He has pulled it from the SW until he has permission from the author.

glossy flax Jan 17, 2017, 2:25 PM

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Hey guys, is there a way tohide a faction in the editor via a mod? We have quite a few mods that add unecessarily multiple faction that we will never use. to make it more pleasant to look at the editor Faction List I'd like to remove some in there. Any idea how I can do that (or if)?

dusk jungle Jan 17, 2017, 2:29 PM

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faction

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Make a patch that changes factions on units\vehicles from that addon

glossy flax Jan 17, 2017, 3:12 PM

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So I would need to do that for every single unit/Vehicle?

viral rapids Jan 17, 2017, 3:18 PM

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Yep

dusk jungle Jan 17, 2017, 3:53 PM

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If you unpack these addons you can only do it to classes where it is specifically set in the config

glossy flax Jan 17, 2017, 8:01 PM

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So I either do it unit by unit and vehicle by vehicle or I need to alter the actual mod file? Meh. But thanks for the answers ^^

fresh shoal Jan 17, 2017, 8:13 PM

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@glossy flax You don't want to see the entire faction no matter what?

glossy flax Jan 17, 2017, 8:18 PM

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Yeah

junior bane Jan 17, 2017, 8:22 PM

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hey guys, gives a another command for rotation via model.cfg? i dont need rotation. I need linear door. door with animation to right

untold temple Jan 17, 2017, 8:29 PM

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type = translation;

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_How_to_animate_a_model and https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_types

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and uses the offset0/1 parameters instead of angle0/1

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offset is relative to the linear distance between the two points you define as the axis, so offset1 = 1; would mean it moves the entire distance between the two mem points offset1 = 0.5; means it would move half the length of the axis, offset1 = 2; twice the length etc.

fresh shoal Jan 17, 2017, 8:35 PM

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@glossy flax I'm afraid as Sa-matra written you'll have to edit it's one by one and change the scope of the units or just pull out the unwanted factions and repack a custom repo

glossy flax Jan 17, 2017, 8:53 PM

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Okay, very sad. Have to do it one by one then. Thank you guys! ^^

atomic yoke Jan 17, 2017, 8:58 PM

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Does anyone know how to add NVG's to a unit's vest via the config?

jade brook Jan 17, 2017, 9:51 PM

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Probably not possible

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        Items[] = {"FirstAidKit","NVG_whatever"};
        RespawnItems[] = {"FirstAidKit","NVG_whatever"};

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You can try this, but I doubt it works

strange egret Jan 17, 2017, 9:56 PM

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maybe add one NVG - this will go to the nvg slot automatically. Then add the one you actually want. Then remove the first

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so it should be in the uniform/vest.

scarlet oyster Jan 17, 2017, 11:08 PM

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It first fills the available space in the uniform. Whatever else doesnt fit goes to the vest.

strange egret Jan 17, 2017, 11:18 PM

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then you also need to load up the uniform with " dummy baggage" as well and remove it after that

wicked delta Jan 17, 2017, 11:36 PM

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Does anyone know if I can use gunnercompartments= to assign a turret to multiple compartments?

untold temple Jan 17, 2017, 11:50 PM

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is it an array? i.e. does the parameter name in the config you're looking at have [] at the end?

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if it's an array you can assign multiple compartments

wicked delta Jan 17, 2017, 11:57 PM

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Yeah that's what I'd hoped but it's not.

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference#gunnerCompartments.3D_.22Compartment1.22

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Says it's a string unfortunately.

harsh stirrup Jan 18, 2017, 12:01 AM

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Does anyone happen to know what the number for the "thrust" parameter in CfgAmmo translates to in real units? (if it even translates to real units at all)

untold temple Jan 18, 2017, 12:15 AM

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I always thought is was like an acceleration rate. Thruster burns for the duration of thrustTime, but is capped at maxSpeed, so thrust governs how much time it takes to reach maxspeed. So maybe ms^-2

harsh stirrup Jan 18, 2017, 1:21 AM

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So I know that it has to do with the acceleration of the missile/rocket, it just seems very inconsistent in the values I find when looking through existing configs

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So far the only thing I've managed to find relating to the values is what seems to be a somewhat odd calculation on the Biki: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Weapons_settings (partway down the page)

untold temple Jan 18, 2017, 1:53 AM

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they might be inconsistent for the sake of BIS wanting them to be able to fly at maxSpeed for different lengths of the alloted thrustTime, before the engine burns out and they decelerate ballistically

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e.g. one ammo type has thrust for 6 seconds, but reaches its maximum speed in 2 seconds so can fly at that speed for a further 4 seconds, where another accelerates towards its maxspeed for the entire duration of its thrust time until the engine burns out

wise fog Jan 18, 2017, 5:10 AM

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Would there be a way to have dual handguns?

quiet lichen Jan 18, 2017, 7:06 AM

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this is not available, and probably won't be given how unrealistic it is

flat sail Jan 18, 2017, 9:19 AM

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Hey folks. I was wondering, because I cannot find mention of it anywhere in configs, if there is a way to show/unhide backpacks on Ghillies via config?

kindred moss Jan 18, 2017, 9:41 AM

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hideProxySelections[] = {"ghillie_hide"};

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make that hideProxySelections[] = {}; in your soldier class

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oh you asked for a backpack... hm no idea might work too

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if that wont work then probably not possible ghillie suits might not have backpack proxy or it might be hidden in some lods ( speculating )

flat sail Jan 18, 2017, 10:43 AM

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I'll have a look and see what I can come up with, thank you.

junior bane Jan 18, 2017, 2:29 PM

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@untold temple : works perfect 😃 thx

junior bane Jan 18, 2017, 4:25 PM

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Can anyone tell me whats wrong?
class Open_Door_8_Armory_Room
{

                displayName = "Open Door"; 
                position = Door_8_ap; 
                priority = 0.4; 
                ShowWindow = 1;
                radius = 1; 
                onlyForPlayer = false; 
                condition = ((this animationPhase 'Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation') < 0.5); 
                statement = "this animate [""Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation"", 1];  uisleep 5;  this animate [""Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation"", 0];"

statement is wrong. Problem: he says: error ";" #uisleep 5
anyone have a idea to make it better?

dusk jungle Jan 18, 2017, 4:34 PM

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isn't statement called in non-scheduled environment?

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statement = "this animate [""Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation"", 1]; this call {uisleep 5; _this animate [""Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation"", 0];};"

viral rapids Jan 18, 2017, 4:41 PM

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Yep

junior bane Jan 18, 2017, 4:49 PM

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@dusk jungle. same error =/...
i can make it over [] execVM ""; but i dont know what is "this"...

dusk jungle Jan 18, 2017, 5:30 PM

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this is local variable containing entity that executes the statement

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paste full error

viral rapids Jan 18, 2017, 5:32 PM

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@junior bane Just to make it easier:
In Configs, you better use ' instead of "" inside a statement.
So:

"this animate [""Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation"", 1];  uisleep 5;  this animate [""Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation"", 0];"

--->
"this animate ['Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation', 1]; uisleep 5; this animate ['Door_8_Armory_Room_rotation', 0];"

strange egret Jan 18, 2017, 5:33 PM

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@harsh stirrup only way to be sure is to test it with low values and 0 gravity coefficient (so that you can shoot it straight without having it doesnt fall out of the air)

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that "formula" in weapon settings just seems like a confirmation that nobody knows how this value is actually used - when you need some totally contrived formula to get any idea what to use

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e^(Pi * atanh 42 + 3*Dog - 5/6 Matchsticks)

junior bane Jan 18, 2017, 7:42 PM

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@viral rapids ok. I test it later. But i think this doesnt work so. But i test it

untold temple Jan 18, 2017, 8:50 PM

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@unreal musk is dis spam?^^

unreal musk Jan 18, 2017, 8:51 PM

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Yup

untold temple Jan 18, 2017, 8:51 PM

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Hammertime!

low orbit Jan 18, 2017, 8:52 PM

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👀 @cold moat that was kind of fail there..

unreal musk Jan 18, 2017, 8:57 PM

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poof

low orbit Jan 18, 2017, 8:58 PM

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well, we tried.

unreal musk Jan 18, 2017, 9:00 PM

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https://media.giphy.com/media/QoNnBvRp5sLSw/giphy.gif

nocturne verge Jan 19, 2017, 5:06 AM

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        author = "[SAWRecce]Maj.AntiAlligat3r";

        class LinkedItems {
            class LinkedItemsOptic {
                slot = "CowsSlot";
                item = "optic_Holosight_blk_F";
            };

            class LinkedItemsAcc {
                slot = "PointerSlot";
                item = "acc_pointer_IR";
            };

            class LinkedItemsMuzzle {
                slot = "MuzzleSlot";
                item = "muzzle_snds_M";
            };
        };
    }; ``` i cannot get the silencer to show on my units weapon in editor when i spawn him

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help ?

kindred moss Jan 19, 2017, 6:14 AM

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which weapon is CTRG20? Which caliber is it? Is it 5.56/6.5/7.62? That suppressor is for 5.56mm caliber guns

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_CfgWeapons_Items you can find all attachments classes here

nocturne verge Jan 19, 2017, 11:36 AM

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TGR-21 in game , just the carbine version , its 5.56

kindred moss Jan 21, 2017, 5:04 PM

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does a3 have the ambient music or sounds modules? Didnt look yet but Im thinking of integrating some music tracks ( no copyright infrigiments custom music ) to the mod... module example setup anyone?

grand zinc Jan 21, 2017, 5:07 PM

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There is a Zeus module to play sound... But i don't fully understand the question.. My group has a custom Musicpack we can use to play custom music via Zeus or other methods.. I'm guessing thats exactly what you want

kindred moss Jan 21, 2017, 5:10 PM

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no idea there was a module in arma2 oa editor for that iirc I dont know how it works in a3 so im guessing it has to be module in the editor

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zeus module to play sound... well config example?

grand zinc Jan 21, 2017, 5:37 PM

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what do you mean by config example? Config needed to get your music to show up in there?

kindred moss Jan 21, 2017, 5:53 PM

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yeah specific module config example didnt find anything @ biki... or the pointer what to look for in config dump

grand zinc Jan 21, 2017, 5:55 PM

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Your music has to have an entry in CfgMusic
Like this

class CfgMusic {
    class 3DG_TimeOD {
        name = "Three Days Grace - Time of Dying";
        sound[] = {"\KiriMusic_M\3DG_TimeOD.ogg", 1.000000, 1.000000};
        duration = 189; //Duration in seconds
        musicClass = "MiscVocal"; //Music class corresponding to entry in CfgMusicClasses (you can create your own)
    };
};

MiscVocal is a selfmade MusicClass. That doesn't exist in vanilla

kindred moss Jan 21, 2017, 5:56 PM

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oh so no entire new module but just add entries to cfgMusic

grand zinc Jan 21, 2017, 5:56 PM

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yeah

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The Module just parses the config and adds all entries

kindred moss Jan 21, 2017, 5:56 PM

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ez pz thanks

kindred moss Jan 21, 2017, 8:18 PM

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is there like max duration is it known or not?

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sound[] array is {file, pitch, volume}?

grand zinc Jan 21, 2017, 8:32 PM

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no known max duration

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and i think so yes

jade brook Jan 21, 2017, 8:39 PM

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{filename, volume, soundPitch, distance}

sage steppe Jan 22, 2017, 2:59 AM

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Hey, what would I do in the conifg to play an animation when I shoot / hit with my weapon?

wicked delta Jan 22, 2017, 1:36 PM

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You can add it a FiredMan event handler to the unit that plays the animation.

vestal vault Jan 22, 2017, 6:30 PM

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Hey I'm trying to make 2 hidden selection textures on a model I have, but it doesn't seem to be working. Can anyone see anything wrong with my config or model.cfg? Here is my model cfg: http://pastebin.com/63c4ar0H and my config.cpp http://pastebin.com/M2MbP8KU

wise fog Jan 22, 2017, 6:53 PM

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Your names dont match

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@vestal vault

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Class Trailer: car {

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"Trailer" needs to match the p3d name and be in the same directory as the p3d and by the looks of it your config says the p3d is named trailer1

vestal vault Jan 22, 2017, 6:58 PM

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@wise fog Yeah I accidentally changed it when I put it into the pastebin, but in the model cfg I am currently using it has the correct names

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http://pastebin.com/gzZLMVee

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there is the correct one

wise fog Jan 22, 2017, 6:59 PM

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And you have "camo1" and "camo2" selections in your model in the resolution LODs?

vestal vault Jan 22, 2017, 7:56 PM

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yep

glossy flax Jan 22, 2017, 9:21 PM

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As many of you should know that since APEX some mods produce that not harmful error:
No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgWeapons/ItemInfo.scope'.
However, from the looks of it, a mod I'm writing atm (<- Noob) is causing this popup aswell. What exactly is causing it and how can I fix it?

untold temple Jan 22, 2017, 9:23 PM

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Item you are configuring is making the ItemInfo inheritance call from the wrong place

gritty rune Jan 22, 2017, 9:23 PM

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@glossy flax https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/192259-config-errors-displaying/?do=findComment&comment=3056311

untold temple Jan 22, 2017, 9:23 PM

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should be from within the parent class

glossy flax Jan 22, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Thank you, both! I'll see what I can do!

barren umbra Jan 23, 2017, 12:58 PM

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hey folks, I'm working on AC-130 and I decided to add ATGM's that will be launched from the rear ramp backward. However I run into some issues:

I added memory points for missileBeg= "spice rakety"; and the missileEnd= "konec rakety"; but the missile still gets launched forward
I cannot get a lock onto my laser marker
How can I get a lock to a target that is 90deg or more to the missile (ie. the gunner looks the the side instead of forward.)

sullen fulcrum Jan 23, 2017, 3:36 PM

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hey guys i have quick question not great when it come to coding. i have roads sign in game how do i define in the config.cpp to use the same model but diffrent texture Paa or is that possible or do i have to make another save in object builder with the other texture applied to the model? current way i have it write in config http://pastebin.com/C6dn58qX

fiery vault Jan 23, 2017, 3:58 PM

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look up hiddenSelections

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here's an example for a uniform, using these 2 lines in your class it is possible to overwrite the texture of the model's "Camo" selection, without modifying the model itself:

        hiddenSelections[] = {"Camo"};
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"A3\Characters_F\Common\Data\coveralls_bandit_co.paa"};

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however, this requires the model to have a "Camo" selection in the first place

sullen fulcrum Jan 23, 2017, 4:09 PM

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Thanks for that @fiery vault ill have look at that now

vestal vault Jan 23, 2017, 7:18 PM

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Hey I'm trying to make 2 hidden selection textures on a model I have, but it doesn't seem to be working. Can anyone see anything wrong with my config or model.cfg? Here is my model cfg: http://pastebin.com/gzZLMVee and my config.cpp http://pastebin.com/M2MbP8KU, sorry for the bump

rigid token Jan 23, 2017, 10:04 PM

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is there anything about hitpoints that is hardcoded? trying to come up with a universial method to detect, if a vehicle is taking damage to its wheels. but after some debugging i'm unsure, if any of the terms are universial or if it's down to trusting modders to keep standards

jade brook Jan 23, 2017, 10:16 PM

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Some names are hard coded and what they do to units

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i.e. a soldier dies when HitHead or HitBody exceed a certain threshold, while they still survive with HitHands being at 1.

rigid token Jan 23, 2017, 10:18 PM

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i'm specificially wondering about wheels though. i think i remember HitFuel being hard coded but my memory might be off

jade brook Jan 23, 2017, 10:18 PM

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Yeah, if HitFuel becomes >0.9, the vehicle will explode after some seconds

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As for the wheels, I think they are linked to class Wheels

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:41 PM

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hithull also causes explosion (not sure if >0.9 or only at 1.0 but iirc >0.9)

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infantry hithands causes shaking, hitlegs causes limping/slow walk, hitbody and hithead are both death causing

sullen fulcrum Jan 23, 2017, 10:42 PM

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@rigid token i assume the wheel hitpoint names are hardcoded since they have a UI element for their damage state

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:46 PM

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they are (defined in car_F), just like HitTrackL & R for tanks

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you can only have 8 physx wheels on cars, and all those have pre-set-up hitpoints in car_f

jade brook Jan 23, 2017, 10:47 PM

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Total damage and HitHull makes them explode instantly, HitFuel has a delay

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It's not so much a delay I think though. Feels more like a loop checking every x seconds, but I have no hard evidence. The delay is pretty random.

rigid token Jan 23, 2017, 10:52 PM

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thx x3kj and lappi. that should be enough info to proceed

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what about fuel leaking? is that still a thing?

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:54 PM

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yeah hitfuel is quite random and can be up to 5 seconds and more

jade brook Jan 23, 2017, 10:54 PM

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Only for helicopter and helicoperX

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doesn't work for carX or tankX

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:54 PM

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thats new, maybe it will still change

jade brook Jan 23, 2017, 10:55 PM

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I was talking about the fuel leak. HitFuel should work for everything

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:55 PM

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thats what i meant as well

jade brook Jan 23, 2017, 10:55 PM

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Never tried with soldiers. Would be funny

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kk

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:56 PM

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bloodleak... well it would be usefull to have

rigid token Jan 23, 2017, 10:59 PM

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how deep into base classes does fuel go? do all "vehicles" have a value for it?

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 10:59 PM

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tanks and cars do, helis not sure, planes i dont think so (at least on stable currently)

rigid token Jan 23, 2017, 10:59 PM

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i guess getfuel or whatever the comand is would return 0 for a human either way

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planes have no fuel? you sure?

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 11:00 PM

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which means he has empty stomach ^^

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thus far they had only hitHull

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but plane DLC will change that thankfully

rigid token Jan 23, 2017, 11:01 PM

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yea advanced nutrition simulation was my first thought too lol. i was just asking stuff though because i want an only partly damagable mhq in my mission that has actions on wheels and engine to repair those

strange egret Jan 23, 2017, 11:03 PM

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ah ok

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:01 PM

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is this possible to re-config the in-game compass?

viral rapids Jan 26, 2017, 9:02 PM

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Prolly yeah.

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:02 PM

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I'm trying to change the UI of the compass

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the N W E S

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I re textured it but I couldn't find where to edit the files in the config

hearty sandal Jan 26, 2017, 9:05 PM

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That you might not be able to do since the compass is on screen projected model and you can't access it to change its texture

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:05 PM

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The 2D compass, or the hand held 3D one?

hearty sandal Jan 26, 2017, 9:06 PM

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oh yeah good question 😄

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:06 PM

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the 3d

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:06 PM

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Both can be changed.

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The 3D one however requires you to make a new .p3d model

hearty sandal Jan 26, 2017, 9:06 PM

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^^

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:06 PM

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so the textures are being used by the model?

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I mean the file itself

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:07 PM

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Yes. You would have to replace the textures. That's possible via .pbo though.

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:08 PM

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but isn't it a copyright thing - using a 3rd person made model?

shut plover Jan 26, 2017, 9:09 PM

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What are you intending to use it for?

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:09 PM

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It's for my clan

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I'll add it to my clan's mod pack

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Even if I did that, how would the game "know" to use the mode in my mod and not the original one?

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:12 PM

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You'd tell it to use your model or just your textures instead.

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If you wanted to just replace the textures, you'd have to make your addon just contain the altered texture and have it's addon prefix point to the path of where the game's texture is located. Your addon will then simply be used instead of the game's due to the way custom content is loaded.

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If you were to replace it with your own model and texture, it would be a bit simpler and more "proper". you'd just tell it to use your .p3d instead of the game's. Same deal with load order.

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:14 PM

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I don't know how to model stuff though

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:19 PM

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Would a simple retexture of the existing compass solve your task?

strange egret Jan 26, 2017, 9:19 PM

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then you have 2 main options - 1) cut your losses and save time or 2) learn modelling

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:20 PM

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I don't know, I'm trying to figute what you said with the prefix thing

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:23 PM

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Ah, I see you have never done an addon before. I recommend dabbling in basics first before going for the kill.

sullen fulcrum Jan 26, 2017, 9:23 PM

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I did make an addon before

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just never done the prefix thing

scarlet oyster Jan 26, 2017, 9:31 PM

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Ok, Then you'll need to find the compass object and find out what texture it uses. Then modify this texture and have it, via the addon prefix in your pbo, swap out the original one with yours.

hot pine Jan 26, 2017, 10:07 PM

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He can also use a A2 compass

mild jewel Jan 27, 2017, 6:45 AM

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is there an idiots guide to config editing somewhere

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im trying to edit a single value dealing with the apex vehicle in vehicle config and failing horribly

jade brook Jan 27, 2017, 11:45 AM

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Idiots shouldn't touch the configs.

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class CfgPatches {
    class <COMPONENT-NAME> {
        units[] = {};
        weapons[] = {};
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        requiredAddons[] = {<LIST-OF-REFERENCED-COMPONENTS>};
        versionAr[] = {1,0,0};
    };
};


class CfgVehicles {
    class <VEHICLE-BASE-CLASS>;
    class <VEHICLE-CLASS>: <VEHICLE-BASE-CLASS> {
        <ENTRY> = <NEW-VALUE>;
    };
};

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should look somewhat like this at the end.

mild jewel Jan 27, 2017, 11:54 AM

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idiots shouldn't do a lot of things but here i am

scarlet oyster Jan 27, 2017, 12:38 PM

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First step to de-idiot oneself.

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The example above is good, but if you don't know what it is actually doing then it won't help you much. I.e how to find out what referenced components you are touching. 😃 (Also the formatting could be argued about, but for modding its fine to leave it like this)

scarlet oyster Jan 27, 2017, 1:00 PM

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For example if you were to modify the Apex jeeps, you would need to find the "component" name of jeep. Usually this is the cfgPatches entry in the .pbo that adds the jeep initially. The CfgPatches "ownership" changes to whatever addon last modifies a parameter. I.e after your fix is loaded your addon's cfgPatch entry will be the component name of the parameter you changed.

So if you modify the speed parameter, then speed is now "owned" by your addon, while model = is still owned by the original one. This is important to remember if you deal with complex inheritance chaos (which shouldnt exist) and backwards compatibility (modders can again ignore this if they choose to)

mild jewel Jan 27, 2017, 9:17 PM

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I'm already in over my head tbh fam

scarlet oyster Jan 27, 2017, 9:21 PM

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As the saying goes: Don't run before you know how to walk. 😃

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My recommendation: Pick one of the official sample addons, and start messing with the config alone. Dont worry about the data content at all, just see what you can change and how it behaves when you leave out things. This should help you get a basic understanding of the process of tinkering with this subject.

mild jewel Jan 27, 2017, 9:37 PM

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Gotcha, I'll see what i can do thanks

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:09 PM

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Hey Lads, I was wondering if someone could help me with some C++, I have done a couple of textures to a pre-existing mod "TRYK", So i have redone the config file based of the one that TRYK's using and it just doesnt want to work. Yes the config will include some stuff regarding coast guard, it is for a life server xD, This is the pastebin to the config that i have changed up http://pastebin.com/X4hH0sMj , if anyone knows please help me! im about to give up on this shit lol

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:12 PM

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what specifically doesn't work? The thingy no showing up ingame?
LSCG_HELICREW 's scope is 1 meaning protected meaning doesn't show up in editor

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:13 PM

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Yeah its not loading in the console with player ForceAddItem "Class Name" then on the arsenal it doesnt show up.

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:14 PM

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For arsenal you should also add scopeArsenal = 2;

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:14 PM

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aight standby i will have to give it a try, because im a noobie on the coding bit

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:14 PM

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What are you trying to do? make a unit with custom texture or a uniform?
Never tried making a uniform. But if you have the base from TRYK thats probably alright.
Okey yeah i can see what you copied from TRYK

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:16 PM

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Yeah if im not mistaken that specific re-texture that i have made, is based off a pre-exsisting model from arma

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sorry for late responses, multi-tasking is aids

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:18 PM

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Comparing with TRYK config your stuff looks correct though.. try the scopeArsenal = 2;
and check in Ingame config-browser if your config is loaded correctly

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:19 PM

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another question, do i have to use the addon builder from the tools inorder to pack the file into a pbo, or just pack it with the right clicks?

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:20 PM

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If your config is loaded correctly it shouldn't matter.
Is the pastebin the whole config.cpp? It's missing CfgPatches

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:21 PM

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yeah thats bout it, i didnt think the Cfg Patches mattered, if so ill add em back in 2 sec

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:22 PM

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It matters

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:23 PM

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aight adding it now

jade brook Jan 28, 2017, 4:26 PM

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Every config patch needs a CfgPatches entry. You have to enter the correct requiredAddons for all referenced inherited classes to ensure correct loading order and you need to add all CfgVehicles classes to the units[] array for them to appear in the Garage, with Zeus and similar scripts.

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:29 PM

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Picture \lscg_uniforms\data\ui\icon_u_b_lscg_heli_crew_uniform not found hmmm thats the error message i got now in the arsenal let me try something

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aight commy ❤

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howeever i dont see anything wrong with the file or pbo name, its the same as it is, i dont know anymore

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http://pastebin.com/Rs0ZKUGc

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thats the final thing i came up with im not sure i put the scopeArsenal = 2; correctly.

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:37 PM

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may have to put .paa behind the picture path.. Sometimes engine does that.. dunno if it does here

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Choose a unique cfgPatches name don't just copy it

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Duplicate cfgPatches names may cause harm

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:39 PM

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Alright one moemnt

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moment*

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required versions?

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change them aswell or keep them as they are?

jade brook Jan 28, 2017, 4:43 PM

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You are using "B_Soldier_base_F" and "Uniform_Base" as base classes, so you have to list the config patches (components) that create these classes to requiredAddons[].

Using this in the debug console:

configSourceAddonList (configFile/"CfgVehicles"/"B_Soldier_base_F")
configSourceAddonList (configFile/"CfgWeapons"/"Uniform_Base")

reports:
"A3_Characters_F"
for both. So you definitely need to add that to the requiredAddons.

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:43 PM

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however now the display name shows in the arsenal menu, but the model it self is invisible, i will give it a try putting the .p3d's in the pbo it self

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alright one moment let me add that

grand zinc Jan 28, 2017, 4:44 PM

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Try adding .p3d to the model path.. You really shouldn't copy Arma stuff

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:44 PM

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yeah, i dont know how tryk worked but ill give it a try

jade brook Jan 28, 2017, 4:45 PM

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You're assuming that it does. : /

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 4:46 PM

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http://pastebin.com/7ehQ4mqW thats how i tried to base it off the BLK_BLK one

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that is directly from the TRYK config

jade brook Jan 28, 2017, 4:56 PM

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You're assuming that they know what they're doing.

thin shard Jan 28, 2017, 5:34 PM

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im not assuming anything

solar stratus Jan 28, 2017, 10:01 PM

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can anyone supply me with a sample clothing config? im learning how to do confis

scarlet oyster Jan 28, 2017, 10:03 PM

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Grab the Official Arma3 Samples.

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Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01

Or wherever it installs to on your side.

zinc orchid Jan 29, 2017, 2:39 AM

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@jade brook how to use the code highlighting?

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nvm, got it

jade brook Jan 29, 2017, 3:40 AM

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```sqf
<code>
```
for anyone else wondering

viral rapids Jan 29, 2017, 3:41 AM

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And now an explaination again how to write 2x ``` without starting the Codeblock 😄

zinc orchid Jan 29, 2017, 3:41 AM

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discord supports sqf?
i was searching an hour and no word of it...

viral rapids Jan 29, 2017, 3:41 AM

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It does, yerp. Since a while, tbh

zinc orchid Jan 29, 2017, 3:42 AM

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wow, that's cool! i knew about the highlighting but not sqf

viral rapids Jan 29, 2017, 3:42 AM

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I don't wanna know, what Dwarden had to do, to get it implemented 😄

zinc orchid Jan 29, 2017, 3:43 AM

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emergency head cinema shut down
just in case 😄

viral rapids Jan 29, 2017, 3:53 AM

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😄

jade brook Jan 29, 2017, 4:12 AM

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@viral rapids You escape them with backslashes

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\`

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Can't escape backslashes with backslashes apparently. That's too meta

magic wagon Jan 29, 2017, 5:46 AM

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Anyone have experience with planes? My plane slows down extremely slowly and I cant figure out how to change any sort of brake coefficient or anything similar

gritty rune Jan 29, 2017, 8:26 AM

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@magic wagon Have you tried changing the envelope, https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#envelope ?

magic wagon Jan 29, 2017, 6:48 PM

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Ive tried a few different ones from arma planes but they fail to fix the braking issue and create other issues

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@gritty rune

gritty rune Jan 29, 2017, 9:16 PM

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How do you test? with keyboard or joystick? Does the slow down problem happen on vanilla planes too? Might be a controller problem

magic wagon Jan 30, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Found out that without landcontact, issues such as that occur.

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Thanks for the effort though 😃

gritty rune Jan 30, 2017, 11:18 AM

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oh, interesting find

barren umbra Feb 1, 2017, 8:33 AM

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How do you use diag_mergeConfigFile? Will it work for a terrain config edits? I want to mess around with haze settings

fiery vault Feb 1, 2017, 10:09 AM

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yes, it works, but you need to change terrains back and forth for the changes to take effect

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when working on the Chernarus lighting, I just merge the config in Eden, change to the VR terrain (shortest loading time), then back to my mission file on Chernarus

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takes about ~10 seconds total

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as for the config merging, I use diag_mergeConfigFile ["E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Dev\LightingFix\config.cpp"], but this path will probably be very different on your end

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point is, diag_mergeConfigFile takes a full directory path, all the way from the drive name down to your config.cpp

languid sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 4:21 PM

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Is there any tutorial on how to make a custom ammo for a weapon ? I tried to make one with samples but i cant see them in game

stoic lily Feb 1, 2017, 4:34 PM

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@fiery vault if you setup a virtual drive + virtual folders (junctions/mlink) you can cut the path length

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like x:\1\config.cpp

fiery vault Feb 1, 2017, 4:36 PM

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oh yeah, absolutely, I just gave him that path I was using because up until this day I couldn't be bothered to move my sources files into P:\

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whichever path he then chooses to his config.cpp (if it's on P:, then there is more than one path) is up to him

languid sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 4:42 PM

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I found out what the problem was no worries*

languid sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 7:07 PM

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I am trying to add optics and bipod to weapon i ported from Arma 2. Proxies are set correctly but i cant select optic or bipod in game. Any help?

low orbit Feb 1, 2017, 7:13 PM

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bleh, i dont have of that sitting in front of me. takes a bit of configfu to get all the attachments working properly. so the optics and bipod both need configs, and between the 3 configs, you need to make sure you have the proper 'allowedSlots'. i assume you can see them in a crate or otherwise in-game?

untold temple Feb 1, 2017, 7:17 PM

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Yeah, you have to declare those attachments as being compatible with the weapon

languid sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:55 PM

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Thanks for help guys, all good now

low orbit Feb 1, 2017, 11:01 PM

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👍

sour steeple Feb 2, 2017, 4:06 AM

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hey would anyone be willing to help me on getting my head piece into arma 3 as a wearable textured mesh? ive added it in fine as a static object but have no idea on how to make it wearable

hot musk Feb 2, 2017, 10:37 AM

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Does anyone know how to restrict certain guns to players in a MP mission like if you choose a riflemen slot you can only get a rifle and so on or is anyone who knows what I'm talking about up to help us ?

outer hazel Feb 2, 2017, 11:09 AM

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does anybody know of any hardcorded speed limits for boats? i cant get my rhib to go past 95kph

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it accellerates fine but then its like it hits an invisible wall and is dead stuck at 95

viral rapids Feb 2, 2017, 11:12 AM

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That fast? I thought it was about 75 oO

outer hazel Feb 2, 2017, 11:13 AM

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i guess it was raised

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the new apex transport boat goes up to 90

viral rapids Feb 2, 2017, 11:13 AM

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75 was from my tests, when i made the Trawler driveable^^

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So maybe it was just the boat (Mass) itself

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(was still fun to see, how the Trawler makes a kickstart with the Bow up in the Air 😄 )

outer hazel Feb 2, 2017, 11:14 AM

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😄

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i remember planes not being able to go past 1000 kph, but didnt know what the limit was for boats, if any

viral rapids Feb 2, 2017, 11:22 AM

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Because when they get faster -> They influence the Infantry/gameplay itself (Yes, thats true 😄 )

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(i remember some of my guys was playing around with the Planes and their Speed, while other tested stuff on the ground. They reported strange behaviour as Infantry)

outer hazel Feb 2, 2017, 12:04 PM

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hahahah

wise fog Feb 2, 2017, 7:58 PM

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If you used a speed modifier on tanks in a2 you could go so fast the game would just break and you would be stuck in nothingness

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Only way to get out of it was restart the game lol

outer hazel Feb 3, 2017, 10:31 AM

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lol nice, i think planes also need an afterburner script to go past 1000kph

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regardless, 120kph doesnt seem like an astronomically high speed for an assault boat, wonder why the limit is so low

hearty sandal Feb 3, 2017, 11:27 AM

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@outer hazel what kind of a boat are we talking about? 120kph sounds afully a lot to me. 😮

outer hazel Feb 3, 2017, 11:45 AM

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rhib

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hmmm yeah thats probably a bit too high, still would've liked to see what happened at that speed :\

hearty sandal Feb 3, 2017, 11:54 AM

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😄

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stuff probably breaks.

real cloak Feb 3, 2017, 12:10 PM

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use a goto somewhere, you will see the same result probably

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 7:24 PM

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Hmm, I'm getting a "cannot load material file" error on a vehicle but the path to said material file is correct, any ideas?

hot pine Feb 3, 2017, 7:29 PM

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Check if rvmat is in the pbo

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If you are using adding builder it might be possible it's not transferred to pbo

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 7:31 PM

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The object actually loads the .rvmat but the config damage array is throwing an error.

untold temple Feb 3, 2017, 7:36 PM

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Is there a leading \ in the file path?

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 7:37 PM

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Negative, should there be?

untold temple Feb 3, 2017, 7:38 PM

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No, was just checking since some circumstances the game has been picky about whether there's one there or not. But the configs I'm looking at don't have one, so i think you're okay

hot pine Feb 3, 2017, 9:05 PM

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Have you checked pbo?

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 9:18 PM

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The pbo doesn't seem to contain the rvmats now that you mention it.

jade brook Feb 3, 2017, 9:22 PM

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addon builder has a bug

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even if you add .rvmat to "files to copy directly"

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it will discard them, unless there are use in at least one model .p3d

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Just create a dummy object. A cube for example and add the materials to that.

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 10:02 PM

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That's a bit annoying. None of my .rvmats though, even though most of them are in use with a model?

jade brook Feb 3, 2017, 10:08 PM

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Define "in use with a model"

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class damage materials for example are in use, but don't appear in the p3d

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 10:09 PM

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Linked in the object.

jade brook Feb 3, 2017, 10:09 PM

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And those we have to include in a dummy object

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 10:09 PM

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Oh hey nvm,

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Addonbuilder didn't have those set to copy.

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Derp.

jade brook Feb 3, 2017, 10:10 PM

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Try that first, but I think it just generally ignores that setting for .rvmat and tries to think on it's own.

wicked delta Feb 3, 2017, 11:20 PM

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It did copy them into the .pbo now, still getting the error though.

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It's also saying that it cannot find an .rvmat already in use with the actual model.

jade brook Feb 3, 2017, 11:35 PM

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copy paste error message (and config ?)

wicked delta Feb 4, 2017, 1:52 AM

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I think I've got it done diddly working, thanks.

barren umbra Feb 4, 2017, 5:13 AM

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is there a way to change vehicle mass in a config (ie. I want tank to be heavier)

jade brook Feb 4, 2017, 6:29 AM

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No

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There is this and the related SQF commands though.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setMass

setMass

viral rapids Feb 4, 2017, 7:23 AM

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Funny hint:
Execute the following, when in a Helicopter :D

vehicle player setMass ((getMass vehicle player)*5)```

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btw.. is it called ScriptBait, when someone writes it like that?

strange egret Feb 4, 2017, 5:48 PM

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class Glass_62_source
{
source = "Hit";
hitpoint = "Glass_62_hitpoint";
raw = 1;
};
whats raw=1 for?

dusk jungle Feb 4, 2017, 6:45 PM

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Something to do with hitpoint damage not exceeding overall damage

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or other way around

viral rapids Feb 4, 2017, 6:49 PM

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erm... crap... i knew that... ermm.... damnit

dusk jungle Feb 4, 2017, 6:51 PM

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raw = 0, animation uses highest number of hit damage and overall damage
raw = 1, animation uses hit damage only

viral rapids Feb 4, 2017, 6:51 PM

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raw = 1; //this appears to be a boolean property telling the game to use the local damage value independent of global damage(?)```

strange egret Feb 4, 2017, 7:03 PM

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seems like raw=1 is default for vehicle hitpoints then

dusk jungle Feb 4, 2017, 7:08 PM

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{
    _raws = configProperties [_x >> "AnimationSources", "getNumber(_x >> ""raw"") == 0"];
    if(count _raws > 0) then {
        diag_log configName _x;
        {
            diag_log (" -- " + configName _x);
        } forEach _raws;
    };
} forEach ("true" configClasses (configFile >> "CfgVehicles"));

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plenty of sources with raw = 0

viral rapids Feb 5, 2017, 4:24 AM

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I guess 0 wil be used by Houses

barren umbra Feb 6, 2017, 9:49 AM

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does "class AICarSteeringComponent" work for tanks and tracked vehicles?

stoic lily Feb 6, 2017, 10:02 AM

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it uses AITankSteeringComponent

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only available in Dev Branch i thinkl

barren umbra Feb 6, 2017, 3:47 PM

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I have a problem with tank hull traverse (turning), when I turn it there is a lot of inertia and the tank ends up turning more then I want. Are there any settings to change that? tankTurnForce is pretty low and the rate of the turn is good, but it often turns too much then I want.