#arma3_animation | ARMA | Page 29

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 1:16 AM

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aight, it's "Build failed. Result code=1"

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I'll download pboproject shortly, in hopes of getting better diagnostic

cerulean pivot Feb 16, 2022, 1:20 AM

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dense mist aight, it's "Build failed. Result code=1"

that's not all of it. you should read the logs

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it explains why it failed

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 1:50 AM

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Grabbing now

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 2:12 AM

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I'm...not understanding why it failed

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I can't find any obvious error message.

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ah, wait

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2022-02-15 18:14:12,494 [WARN] 11: AddonBuilder.Tasks.ProcessBuildTask.process_ErrorDataReceived -

desert raven Feb 16, 2022, 2:15 AM

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addon builder does not really give very useful error messaging

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basically if it errors that badly the data you fed it is badly wrong

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 2:17 AM

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yeah, I just tried pboproject

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yells at me rapWarning: missing file(s)****

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a few times

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then says anim model.cfg has errors

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then one more rapwarning and then the endscan.

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I've only got three things in there: the rtm, the config.cpp, and the model example file I got from the pinned guide.

desert raven Feb 16, 2022, 2:20 AM

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well start from the missing files and model.cfg errors

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 2:26 AM

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doesn't tell me WHICH missing files kekw

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I'll just work it out.

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pick this up a little later tonight and just slam it down

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many thanks for all the help

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 9:18 PM

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figured out what it's yelling at me about, it's "pivotsModel="A3\anims_f\data\skeleton\SkeletonPivots.p3d" in the model.cfg file

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best guess is it's trying to reference a file it assumes is in the same directory, but very much isn't

desert raven Feb 16, 2022, 9:27 PM

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that p3d will be in extracted A3 data if you have set up P drive correctly

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 9:28 PM

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apparently I did not.

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I'm not sure what goes into setting up a P drive "correctly", per say. I've only ever just mounted it.

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worked for dayz packing, but this is a bit of a different fish.

desert raven Feb 16, 2022, 9:32 PM

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Arma3P from mikeros tools

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 9:32 PM

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man mikeros makes fucking everything apparently

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so many tools

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 9:50 PM

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Arma3P not solving the problem. Mounted P and ran it, no additional files appeared in P.

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trying something else, may have fucked it

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alright, got it in there, error still being thrown. Attempts to refer it specifically to P:\ has it yell at me that direct drive references aren't used in Linux.

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BaBy StEpS

desert raven Feb 16, 2022, 10:11 PM

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if you mount stuff through the launcher thats not compatible with mikeros tools

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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SUCCESS

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I appreciate the hallelujah chorus.

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now to upload it to the workshop as a test mod and see what breaks now. kekw

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 10:29 PM

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ALMOST.

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the animation plays, but way too goddamned fast.

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probably a duration definition issue, but holy hell. It works, and the game didn't explode.

dense mist Feb 16, 2022, 10:48 PM

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Victory.

dense mist Feb 17, 2022, 1:06 AM

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Aight, next question: if I import an .rtm with facial animation, will that work with the regular animation, or is facial animation a separate file?

desert raven Feb 17, 2022, 1:09 AM

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facial animations are separate

dense mist Feb 17, 2022, 2:23 AM

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Oh good, another thing to figure out

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anyone have a rig for that lying around, by any chance?

fast canopy Feb 17, 2022, 2:39 AM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/223716-behind-the-artwork-supporter-how-to-animate/
To do face anims do this. This guide is to make some anims for screenshots but the idea is this. Rig also should be there

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Behind the Artwork Supporter - How to Animate

Welcome to the tutorial of Artwork Supporter, this is where you need to look at make static animations and its configurations. You can also find FaceRig to make facial expressions! Useful links also: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgMoves_Config_Reference Disclaimer: this is NOT a turorial ...

dense mist Feb 17, 2022, 8:46 AM

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@fast canopy thanks VERY much for that, that rig's exactly what I needed.

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A lot of that tutorial earlier on in it talks of different config files than what I put together; I'm guessing there's a lot of context to the different types of animations compared to what I currently threw together.

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If I have enough time, I'd love to figure out the differences. I'm on a tight schedule atm though, so I'll just be sticking to "whatever I can trigger from a menu so I can film it in zeus/editor"

safe patrol Feb 17, 2022, 2:04 PM

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Is it possible to convert default animation ( when player just staying without weapons ) into blender format?

cerulean pivot Feb 17, 2022, 2:24 PM

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safe patrol Is it possible to convert default animation ( when player just staying without w...

Not really.
If you debinarize the rtm you can import it into Blender using RTM Importer addon, but the bone hierarchy will be lost (you can't edit the anim)

safe patrol Feb 17, 2022, 3:01 PM

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ah, understood 😦

when i start anim - character hands a bit moved from default anim and it looks not rly good :\

stuck depot Feb 17, 2022, 4:43 PM

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Hey i am working on a Diver Propulsion Device and i was wondering if its possible to have legs "swimming" while the hands hold onto the vehicle?

safe patrol Feb 17, 2022, 8:36 PM

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what can be a problem if i added animation ( gesture ) to config, packed all
but when trying playActionNow - nothing happens, is any way to track a reason?

desert raven Feb 17, 2022, 9:47 PM

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gestures have their own command

safe patrol Feb 17, 2022, 10:32 PM

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ah i find problem meowfacepalm
didn't add my new gesture to ManActions 😄

fringe gyro Feb 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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stuck depot Hey i am working on a Diver Propulsion Device and i was wondering if its possibl...

so if i understood it, upper and lower body can have seperate animations, I've seen gestures etc done in vehicles, but is it possible to have a constant animation be played on the lower body?

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And to extend on that, is it possible to have different animations for not moving and for moving in a vehicle?

desert raven Feb 17, 2022, 11:36 PM

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gestures in vehicles can be very unreliable

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engine friendly way to make movement would be to use the crew IK system (like how hand follow driving wheel)

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but utilize it for moving the legs

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and no, not possible to have different animation for moving and not moving

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unless gestures are used

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which again can be unreliable

fringe gyro Feb 17, 2022, 11:49 PM

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nice

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so having an animation for turning would work?

desert raven Feb 18, 2022, 12:45 AM

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50/50 chance I suppose

charred junco Feb 18, 2022, 4:32 AM

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Hey, where in configs can I find the gesture length in (milli)seconds of a rifle being cycled? Talking about the reload/cycling time in between shots for sniper rifles etc.

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Hmm, I assume it's just the reloadTime in config of the weapon under class Single: Mode_SemiAuto {} (at least in case of Chey Tac). I was first confused for a second as there's also a reloadTime in the class of the weapon which is a constant regardless of the gun (not inside the firemode class which varies accordingly)

woeful pelican Feb 18, 2022, 5:12 AM

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reloadtime in firemodes for the weapon itself, the gesture length is, well, the animation length and speed

clear summit Feb 22, 2022, 3:05 AM

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export

desert raven Feb 22, 2022, 3:23 AM

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import

sacred oxide Feb 22, 2022, 4:49 PM

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whats the deal with the 'roll parts of the armature? can they be disregarded, and still work for anim creation

drowsy nymph Feb 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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Rotate your wrists and observe how your radius and ulna bones in your forearm move. That's what the "roll" parts are for to stop the mesh deforming so much when the wrists, ankles etc are twisted

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 5:51 PM

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So i need some help

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When i make a cylinder in blender

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and a block

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and make a bone

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do i haev to connect them

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I connected them and when i exported it and opened objcet builder i could only see the box but not the cylinder and the bone

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 5:58 PM

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bones dont export at all, they dont really have a function in this workflow

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 5:59 PM

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Then how do i make bones for arma anims

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 5:59 PM

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and model wise you would need to have everything exportable set up with the arma lod properties

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 5:59 PM

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i did

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but i connected the bone and the cylinder

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 5:59 PM

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low holly Then how do i make bones for arma anims

you did not yet read the sites did you?

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 5:59 PM

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i did

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i am reading it now

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:00 PM

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bones are defined through memorypoint lod

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Xa4y_4PsM

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:00 PM

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as vertex pairs with vertex group name that connects them to the animation axis

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:00 PM

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is this tut good

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:00 PM

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yeh battlestads stuff is pretty good

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:01 PM

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so he was using a single vertex

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:01 PM

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well make them 2

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:02 PM

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end point and start point?

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:02 PM

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?

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:02 PM

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nevermind

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And one more thing

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When i make a collection 1

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:02 PM

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they do define a axis vector

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so direction does matter

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:03 PM

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can i have multiple files in it or do i need to join them

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:03 PM

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if you have just 1 point, it works

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but it has no direction

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if you have latest arma toolbox it can combine multiple objects of same lod setting into one at export

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if not, then they need to be joined as one object

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:04 PM

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then i need to make vertex groups

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for lights and that stuff

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:04 PM

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for light memorypoints yes

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:04 PM

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ok

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doors?

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 6:05 PM

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if they animate then the animated parts will need axis points yes

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and there are various different function memorypoints that connect to the config of a vehicle. like get in/out positions/directions, where driver view is

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where weapons shoot from

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stuff like that

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you can open up the sample car and sample tank to see some of them

low holly Mar 1, 2022, 6:57 PM

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Where can i get the latest version of the arma 3 toolbox

cerulean pivot Mar 1, 2022, 7:12 PM

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github

desert raven Mar 1, 2022, 7:15 PM

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well the release version does not have the same lod property merge

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Alwarren does occasionally share the dev build though

compact mauve Mar 2, 2022, 3:38 AM

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Is there a way to stop the time on a animation

desert raven Mar 2, 2022, 3:47 AM

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no

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you can only halt the whole game time

fast canopy Mar 2, 2022, 6:16 AM

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compact mauve Is there a way to stop the time on a animation

Depends on the "a animation" you mean actually

coarse swallow Mar 3, 2022, 10:50 PM

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what pointers should i look at if rtm's resulting in just tposing?

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in CfgMovesMaleSdr and States

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i inherited default point to the file, and set the speed

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and in the animation viewer in-game, it's just t-pose

coarse swallow Mar 3, 2022, 11:46 PM

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ok, rpt is spewing out that it cant find the rtm-files, but the path is correct

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i also debinned the pbo and made sure theyre there

desert raven Mar 3, 2022, 11:47 PM

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how did you pack the pbo

coarse swallow Mar 3, 2022, 11:47 PM

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pboProject

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ok, i see what's going on

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the file structure is not consistent to my other PBO's of the same source

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all the folders converted to pbo are in the same place

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but pboProject decides this one pbo gets a different file-structure

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is this a feature?

desert raven Mar 3, 2022, 11:50 PM

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no

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its something you do

coarse swallow Mar 3, 2022, 11:50 PM

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ok

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i'll look into it

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pboprefix

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found it

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thank you for the help ❣️

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:01 PM

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I am still utterly flabbergasted about how to setup actions.

So far i have an Idle and a walk, i want the agent to switch from idle to walk when told to move somewhere:

class CfgMovesBasic
{
    class DefaultDie;
    class ManActions
    {
        StandIdleA = "";
    };
    class Actions
    {
        class NoActions: ManActions
        {
            StandIdleA = "StandIdleA";
        };
        class StandIdleA_Actions: NoActions
        {
            WalkF = "StandWalk";
        };
    };
};```

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what am i doing wrong?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:02 PM

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coarse swallow I am still utterly flabbergasted about how to setup actions. So far i have an I...

did you add the action group to your state as well?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:03 PM

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🔨

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hammer-time

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i did not and i just realized it

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Thank you ❣️

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ok! so now they walk if i playaction, but they wont walk out of their own

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:09 PM

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coarse swallow ok! so now they walk if i playaction, but they wont walk out of their own

maybe they don't want to walk

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maybe they want to run

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:10 PM

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i gave them a move order on zeus and set them to forceWalk

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:10 PM

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coarse swallow i gave them a move order on zeus and set them to forceWalk

do they turn?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:10 PM

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yes

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they turn towards the target

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and if i set them to walkf with playaction, they walk to it

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:12 PM

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coarse swallow and if i set them to walkf with playaction, they walk to it

do you use the same action group for both the walking and stop animations?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:12 PM

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nope, i havent set an aciton group for walking yet

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i thought it was enough to set it for idle

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do i need to?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:14 PM

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idk. but the way you set up actions, as I said before, is just making a group of states that go together (same weapon, same stance, etc.)
e.g. ZombieStandNoWpn action group, which has stop, walkF, moveF, etc. actions

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:14 PM

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alright

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:15 PM

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and then in the actions property of each state you provide, you must point to ZombieStandNoWpn

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:15 PM

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moveF or FastF?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:15 PM

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I think it was FastF yeah meowsweats

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I don't remember

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:15 PM

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alright, i'll do that

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they still wont

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:18 PM

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coarse swallow they still wont

add an AnimChanged event handler to the unit

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see if it even tries to play another anim

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:19 PM

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k, sec

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nope

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it's not even trying

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:21 PM

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coarse swallow it's not even trying

I guess it's trying to play another action then

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set up more of them first (walk, run, sprint, etc.)

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:26 PM

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coarse swallow it's not even trying

just for testing, add this state to your idle connectedTo:

"AmovPercMstpSnonWnonDnon", 0.5

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if it plays the vanilla stop move then your unit is not trying to use yours thonk

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:27 PM

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ok

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nope

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it stays in my animation

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:30 PM

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ok. did you add the other actions too?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:31 PM

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to what?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:31 PM

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to your actions group

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:31 PM

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i have now added stop, walkf and fastf

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well, i ha them added before

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and still have

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:35 PM

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coarse swallow i have now added stop, walkf and fastf

add more stuff too

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e.g slowF, playerSlowF, etc.

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:35 PM

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ok

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 2:44 PM

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coarse swallow ok

if you're still struggling just visit the CivilStandActions actions group in config viewer
then set all the actions that it changes in your action too (only those that matter in moving for now)

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 2:57 PM

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alright

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:00 PM

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cerulean pivot if you're still struggling just visit the `CivilStandActions` actions group in c...

cant i just inherit CivilStandActions ?

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oooh

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yeah, i get it

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configviewer is kind of poopy because it doesnt change which values are changed and which ones are inherited

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:01 PM

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coarse swallow configviewer is kind of poopy because it doesnt change which values are changed ...

it does iirc

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it indents them

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:01 PM

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coarse swallow cant i just inherit CivilStandActions ?

well what's the point? meowsweats
you have to provide your own states anyway

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:03 PM

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ok

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nope, it does the same stuff i do

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i dont see anything here that would change anything

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i dont get why this is not working

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@cerulean pivoti inherited CivilStandActions and now it works

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well, they do the walking

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on their own

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:20 PM

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if you just completed all actions it would work with your previous setup too blobdoggoshruggoogly

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:21 PM

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ok, so now i need to make action groups for sprinting too?

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or is one enough

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:21 PM

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no

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:21 PM

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ok

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:22 PM

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coarse swallow or is one enough

you typically only make groups per each wpn and stance, e.g. ZombieStandNoWpn
like I said before

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:25 PM

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yeah

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the sprinting is broken, though

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it's not FastF

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the action is something else

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:26 PM

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coarse swallow it's not FastF

fastF is just moveF I said (by mistake)

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afaik it's not sprint

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:26 PM

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so what would i use for sprint?

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or moving fast

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:26 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:26 PM

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nice

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:26 PM

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see vanilla actions

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:26 PM

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yep

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when in doubt, all of them?

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only ones i can find are TactF and FastF

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so when the agent tries to do FastF, it just freezes

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:37 PM

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coarse swallow so when the agent tries to do FastF, it just freezes

check your state

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:39 PM

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if i dont have an animation for an action, do i just leave it empty?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:40 PM

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cerulean pivot check your state

works with playMoveNow "FastF"

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 3:40 PM

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wat? FastF is not a state

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 3:41 PM

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sorry

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playActionNow "FastF"

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typo

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are the actions case sensitive in the config?

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Ok, so can i leave Actions i dont use as just ""?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 4:04 PM

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cerulean pivot if you're still struggling just visit the `CivilStandActions` actions group in c...

ok, i did what you said here.
Now my issue is that the Agent doesnt have collisions above the waist, IE i cant shoot them in the body or the head

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legs work fine

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 4:05 PM

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coarse swallow ok, i did what you said here. Now my issue is that the Agent doesnt have collisi...

set the collision geometry

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cant shoot
shoot? what does it have to do with collision?

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that's related to fire geometry of the model and its hit points

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 4:06 PM

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it doesnt collide with bullets

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i cant shoot it in the body is the problem, only the legs take hits

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 4:22 PM

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cerulean pivot set the collision geometry

how?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 5:04 PM

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coarse swallow how?

What I said has nothing to do with bullets

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 5:06 PM

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cerulean pivot that's related to fire geometry of the model and its hit points

This does

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 5:09 PM

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cerulean pivot This does

so how do i fix it?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 5:10 PM

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Fix your fire geometry and the hit points

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Did you create the model yourself?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 5:16 PM

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cerulean pivot Did you create the model yourself?

the model works when it's not animating

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but ever since i did the actions, the hits to the upper torso turned off

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if i take the actions out, they work again

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 5:18 PM

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coarse swallow but ever since i did the actions, the hits to the upper torso turned off

You mean playMoveNow works too?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 5:20 PM

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nope, not anymore

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if i take the actions out of the config, the shooting works

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 5:20 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 5:22 PM

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sigh

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they also walk inside each-others

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sigh

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i guess that's my fault

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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so in cfgmodels, i add my state-name and sections+ skeleton for it?

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to get the hit points for it?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 6:56 PM

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coarse swallow they also walk inside each-others

AI always walk inside each other
But if YOU can walk through them too that's related to collision geometry

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 8:12 PM

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cerulean pivot AI always walk inside each other But if YOU can walk through them too that's rel...

nah, i cant walk through them

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im just trying to figure out how to setup the hitpoints for these animations

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:27 PM

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the problem is that it doesnt just not register damage but the whole bullet goes through it

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:27 PM

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coarse swallow the problem is that it doesnt just not register damage but the whole bullet goes...

that means something's wrong with the fire geom lod

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try the diag exe

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(needs dev branch)

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you can check the fire lod with that

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:28 PM

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visual?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:29 PM

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yes

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:29 PM

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ok, how can i run diag exe?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:29 PM

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are you on dev branch?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:29 PM

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im downloading dev branch right now (10 secs left)

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as in the development build

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from steam beta's

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:31 PM

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coarse swallow ok, how can i run diag exe?

go to your A3 install dir
find the diag exe
then do either of these:

if you know how to use command lines, make a bat and run the diag exe with mods and everything you need
if not, you can rename it to the default exe (back up the default one too), and run the game as usual from the launcher

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:32 PM

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gotcha

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:32 PM

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then use this: diag_drawMode "FireGeometry"

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:32 PM

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👍

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i'll be back once this has loaded

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Picture of the result

https://pasteboard.co/COaOE4aRJr4S.png

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looks about right

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:44 PM

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I think so yeah thonk

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what is the boundingRadius or whatever it's called in your animation config?

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it's boundingSphere meowsweats

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tho iirc that only applies to object visibility only? thonk

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:51 PM

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yeah, do you mean the radius in the vehicle config?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:51 PM

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no, animation config

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:51 PM

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uhhh... there's no radius there

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:51 PM

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cerulean pivot it's boundingSphere <:meowsweats:707626030613135390>

it's called boundingSphere

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:53 PM

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i have no such thing

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in my animation config

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you mean States, right?

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in CfgMovesMaleSdr

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:54 PM

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yes

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:54 PM

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coarse swallow i have no such thing

you sure your requiredAddons is correct?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:54 PM

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not at all

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:54 PM

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what is it?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:55 PM

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required addons is completeley borked if youre asking about that

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i have just "A3_Data_F_Oldman_Loadorder" up there for now

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i tend to fill in what i use later

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:55 PM

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that should be ok

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:55 PM

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ok

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yeah, since im using only base-game classes for now

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:56 PM

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coarse swallow yeah, since im using only base-game classes for now

is your anim config setup the one your DMed me?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:56 PM

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not anymore, no

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i can send you fresh one

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:58 PM

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coarse swallow i can send you fresh one

move Default into CfgMovesBasic

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:58 PM

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yep

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:59 PM

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tho probably won't make any difference thonk
but it's weird that you say you have no boundingSphere

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 9:59 PM

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i dont see one

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 9:59 PM

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the Default class has one

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:00 PM

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if i have one, it's inherited

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yep, it has one

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but it's not in my config, i misunderstood it there

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i'm sorry

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:03 PM

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I don't think I have any other ideas meowsweats
check the Hitpoints class under your unit CfgVehicles too

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:03 PM

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whats the problem again?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:04 PM

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bullets don't hit the unit when it's playing the animation

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:04 PM

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it hits the legs and abdomen

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but not the upper body

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:04 PM

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coarse swallow ok, i did what you said here. Now my issue is that the Agent doesnt have collisi...

this

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:04 PM

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could it be cfgVehicles hitpoints as leopard suggested

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i'll pastebin the hitpoints

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:05 PM

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is it moving far from its original position?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:05 PM

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https://pastebin.com/XC8cNKSg

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:05 PM

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desert raven is it moving far from its original position?

how far is far?

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i'd say it's within 20m from where it was placed

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:06 PM

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coarse swallow i'd say it's within 20m from where it was placed

he means in the anim

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:06 PM

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then yes that would require you to increate the bounds sphere

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:06 PM

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no, the anim is staying within 20m

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:07 PM

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yes that is pretty far

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:07 PM

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the anim shouldn't move the unit that far

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:07 PM

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it doesnt move at all

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the animation doesnt move the unit at all

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:07 PM

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coarse swallow no, the anim is staying within 20m

then what do you mean here?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:07 PM

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it's staying within 20m

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i mean that the movement is less than 20m, to be more precise, about 0.2m

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:08 PM

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coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:08 PM

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desert raven

yes, the animation doesnt move from the spot where the unit is

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:08 PM

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alright

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please

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next time

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be very specific

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:08 PM

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understood

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:09 PM

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how do you play the animation?

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and is this custom character?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:10 PM

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coarse swallow if i take the actions out of the config, the shooting works

@desert raven there was this detail too. maybe you know about this?

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:10 PM

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so completely custom moveset?

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:10 PM

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desert raven and is this custom character?

yes, it's a custom unit defined in cfgVehicles

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with custom moveset

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:10 PM

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blobcatsweats

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the biggest can of worms there is

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:10 PM

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the moveset works

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well, the moves work and visualizing the firegeometry as Leopard suggested shows it following the animation accurately

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so i was thinking it's to do with hitpoints config in cfgvehicles

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:11 PM

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desert raven so completely custom moveset?

basically uses CfgMovesMaleSdr, but with its own states and actions

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:11 PM

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have the names changed for those

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:11 PM

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shouldn't be that different from default

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:11 PM

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try using vanilla character with the moveset

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:12 PM

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will do

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:12 PM

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that should reveal if the problem is in model/character at least

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if it does not work the culprit is likely your animation config somehow

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:15 PM

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nope

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vanilla character

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as soon as it takes the animation, the hits dont land

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:17 PM

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this would indicate some sort of config error in the moveset

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:21 PM

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beats me

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:21 PM

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fun times of custom character/moveset modding

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:22 PM

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sure is

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and the first time doing this

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vaultsweat

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:22 PM

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you could try the boundsphere paramter

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it could be your config does not iherit the default value right

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or overwrites it somewhere for some reason

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could be its too small

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:24 PM

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rgr! i'll try that

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what's a reasonable value? 3m?

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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check what vanilla default is

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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1

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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1 isnt even the height of a man

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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🤔 you sure

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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so i can see issues there

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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desert raven 🤔 you sure

yeah

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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since the source of the unit is at it's feet, wouldnt 1 be too small?

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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coarse swallow 1 isnt even the height of a man

I don't think it's in meters thonk

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:25 PM

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oh

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:26 PM

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it's probably a multiplier blobdoggoshruggoogly

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:26 PM

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right

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:26 PM

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I think it should be in meters

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:26 PM

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the value of 1 makes no sense tho 😅

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:27 PM

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if its radius from pelvis it would work

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:27 PM

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works now

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with 3

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:27 PM

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there we go

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:27 PM

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nyanparty

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:28 PM

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coarse swallow <a:nyanparty:638065060098342942>

now fix your rtm 😛

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or use a smaller radius

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3 is too big

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try 1.5 or something

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:28 PM

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3 4 and even 8 appear in vanilla animations

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:29 PM

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I guess you mean acts?

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:29 PM

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no

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coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:30 PM

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meowsweats

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isnt that just for turning right from a kneel?

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:30 PM

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cutscene acts animatios got even bigger ones

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:30 PM

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well anyway, I expect that to reduce the performance when there are bullets passing by
and probably will cause the unit to be rendered unnecessarily too

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:31 PM

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this one is however the sorts that makes the character look like its moving around

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so it needs larger sphere

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:32 PM

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ok, i'll try reducing it until it stops working and then return

cerulean pivot Mar 5, 2022, 10:32 PM

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desert raven this one is however the sorts that makes the character look like its moving arou...

"AmovPercMevaSrasWrflDf" is 1 thonk
which is a spring anim... meowsweats

coarse swallow Mar 5, 2022, 10:32 PM

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i'll probably fall asleep before then

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havent slept properly in 5 days

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Thank you so much for your help!

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❣️

desert raven Mar 5, 2022, 10:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/love-sleep-tired-lamb-cuddle-gif-17245076

Tenor

stoic bear Mar 6, 2022, 4:02 PM

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I need help with an animation, Im trying to get it to loop from the original start position and not the end possition of the animation. Can anyone help?

desert raven Mar 6, 2022, 4:10 PM

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got video of what you mean?

stoic bear Mar 6, 2022, 4:10 PM

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yeah could I stream it

desert raven Mar 6, 2022, 4:11 PM

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or pictures

stoic bear Mar 6, 2022, 4:16 PM

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yeah I cant upload the image

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but the animation loops on the spot it ends at and just runs away

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funny at first but i need it to loop of the spot i placed it at

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and not the spot it moved to

desert raven Mar 6, 2022, 5:21 PM

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youll need to link the pictures.

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or video

coarse swallow Mar 7, 2022, 1:09 PM

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How can i block turning in a gesture?

cerulean pivot Mar 7, 2022, 1:11 PM

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coarse swallow How can i block turning in a gesture?

gestures don't block anything (afaik)

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you can only do that in anim

coarse swallow Mar 7, 2022, 1:12 PM

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ah

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fair enough

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oh yeah, that makes sense now

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😅

subtle falcon Mar 7, 2022, 2:04 PM

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coarse swallow How can i block turning in a gesture?

Gestures are mostly used to be able to move at the same time (and avoid creating hundreds of movesets to perform a simple action).Think of it as an additional layer that will only apply certain properties and an additional animation but that remains dependent on the "move" animation on which you apply your gesture. It is mostly used for upper body actions (reloading weapons, holding an object... Etc) but as you probably noticed, you can apply it to any part of the body using a mask. If your character should not be able to move, I advise you not to use gestures.

coarse swallow Mar 7, 2022, 2:09 PM

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setting up actions is a PITA, so im using gestures. What is annoying about it is that the AI decides to turn during the gesture

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i dont so much want them to not move as much as i want them to not turn

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but it's not a major breaker and i'll look into swapping my gestures to animations if it becomes a necessity

dense mist Mar 7, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Working a bit on importing some mocap .bvh files I created onto armarig in blender. Anyone have some tips for troubleshooting?

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Currently the head is like, stretched below his pelvis.

desert raven Mar 7, 2022, 3:49 PM

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there isnt really much to say without knowing your exact workflow since that stuff can be done in so many different ways

dense mist Mar 7, 2022, 3:49 PM

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Fair. I'm working with another friend, I'll try to get more info.

desert raven Mar 7, 2022, 3:56 PM

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my experience has been that the armarig is not very good for that kind of work

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it needs quite a bit of rework to behave properly in that kind of stuff

dense mist Mar 7, 2022, 4:32 PM

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Is there something more preferable?

desert raven Mar 7, 2022, 5:24 PM

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I dont know of anything plug and play. I've done my own custom stuff for that kind of things

dense mist Mar 8, 2022, 3:11 AM

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Currently trying to test one of what I just discussed, but adding it to my config and mod does not result in it showing up.

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First animation in the pack is fine, though.

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Anyone mind having a look at the config? See if I'm doing something stupid?

desert raven Mar 8, 2022, 3:12 AM

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put it in pastebin.com and paste here. usually someone takes a peek when they can

dense mist Mar 8, 2022, 3:15 AM

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gotcha

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https://pastebin.com/SGqdcKnm

dense mist Mar 8, 2022, 2:34 PM

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figured it out; was a mod download issue, not my config.

desert raven Mar 8, 2022, 3:00 PM

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pepyay

coarse swallow Mar 10, 2022, 6:04 PM

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ok, so my animations dont sync over multiplayer

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theyre defined in cfgMovesMaleSdr and work for the user that the agent is local to, but nobody else

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the owner of the agent is a client

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but the animations are not syncing over clients

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the agents are just sliding around in the default pose

desert raven Mar 10, 2022, 6:53 PM

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probably problem with Agent

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first off try if using vanilla unit as Agent in the same way you do now works correctly

coarse swallow Mar 10, 2022, 7:20 PM

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i figured some of it

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if i force switchmove on the agent, it starts aniomating like normal

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if the agent is already moving when i join, it moves like normal

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if the agent is created whilst im in, it doesnt move

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so i think i know how to fix it

carmine sparrow Mar 11, 2022, 5:47 PM

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Myself and another are working on a custom character with a custom rig and animations, when we imported them into object builder the resolution looks fine but playing through the frames the mesh is distorted and rotates at a 45 degree angle. Anyone able to help out?
https://imgur.com/gfgfKlu

desert raven Mar 11, 2022, 8:06 PM

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The rig is probably not zeroed to correct rotation

swift hollow Mar 13, 2022, 2:35 AM

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carmine sparrow Myself and another are working on a custom character with a custom rig and anima...

This sounds extremely similar to a problem I was about to ask about; Animations on custom rigs that play fine in Blender are causing the mesh to tear / distort wildly when imported into Object Builder ...

swift hollow Mar 13, 2022, 2:35 AM

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desert raven The rig is probably not zeroed to correct rotation

Are you able to elaborate on this please? Is this something that is corrected in Blender? or after import into object builder?

desert raven Mar 13, 2022, 12:06 PM

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In blender

jaunty wadi Mar 18, 2022, 12:46 PM

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`warning:In file '\AP\JSMR\basicdefines_A3.hpp': macro 'LOAD': trailing ; should be in each caller. Never the macro body.

warning:In file '\AP\JSMR\basicdefines_A3.hpp': #define HeadArmourCoef is not FULL_UPPER_CASE, fix it if you can, or regret it later.

warning:In file '\AP\JSMR\basicdefines_A3.hpp': #define BodyArmourCoef is not FULL_UPPER_CASE, fix it if you can, or regret it later.

warning:In file '\AP\JSMR\basicdefines_A3.hpp': #define HandArmourCoef is not FULL_UPPER_CASE, fix it if you can, or regret it later.

warning:In file '\AP\JSMR\basicdefines_A3.hpp': #define LegArmourCoef is not FULL_UPPER_CASE, fix it if you can, or regret it later.
Z:\AP\JSMR\rtm\JSMR1.rtm
The engine does not use drive: specifiers. This 'file' will not be found
In File \AP\JSMR\config.cpp: circa Line 32 drive: specifiers can't be placed in pbo, and have no context in linux servers
Failed. View->output logs for \AP\JSMR
JSMR.pbo not produced due to error(s)`

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Any idea?

cerulean pivot Mar 18, 2022, 12:50 PM

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jaunty wadi `***warning***:In file '\AP\JSMR\basicdefines_A3.hpp': macro 'LOAD': trailing ; ...

it already tells you what you're doing wrong:

Z:\AP\JSMR\rtm\JSMR1.rtm
The engine does not use drive: specifiers.

jaunty wadi Mar 18, 2022, 12:54 PM

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cerulean pivot it already tells you what you're doing wrong: > Z:\AP\JSMR\rtm\JSMR1.rtm > The e...

Nvm I figure it out, yeah that's the problem and I forgot to remove some lines in the config files other than that.
Thanks btw!

supple junco Mar 22, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Has anyone ran into the issue with the polpox anim viewer where, after trying to apply an animation to a unit, it responds "wrong vehicle type"?

fast canopy Mar 23, 2022, 3:04 AM

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That's not what this channel's topic. Use Unit Animator Moudule

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@supple junco

dull valve Mar 23, 2022, 6:17 AM

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Hello does anyone know what adjstance = "m"; means?

cerulean pivot Mar 23, 2022, 6:27 AM

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dull valve Hello does anyone know what ```adjstance = "m";``` means?

stance adjustments (ctrl+WASD keys)

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"m" means "middle"

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aka no adjustments

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there's also "u" (up), "d" (down), etc.

dull valve Mar 23, 2022, 6:28 AM

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@cerulean pivot ahh thank you

zinc flume Mar 25, 2022, 1:13 PM

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hello guys I'm creating a parachute but I'm having a problem with the animation...

I created the animation in blender using Arma Toolbox for Blender.

In blender 🤓
https://imgur.com/9UlrVfO
In Obj Builder 😍
https://imgur.com/nfJmtnQ
In game 😱 😰
https://imgur.com/BrNU8NL

does anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

cerulean pivot Mar 25, 2022, 1:13 PM

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zinc flume hello guys I'm creating a parachute but I'm having a problem with the animation....

without explaining what's wrong exactly no

zinc flume Mar 25, 2022, 1:14 PM

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cerulean pivot without explaining what's wrong exactly no

I'm trying to upload the videos for a second 😄

fast canopy Mar 25, 2022, 2:42 PM

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Edit LODs are only a temporary things, will do nothing ingame. IDK why you ask it here

cerulean pivot Mar 25, 2022, 2:45 PM

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zinc flume I'm trying to upload the videos for a second 😄

sorry, dunno what's going wrong there. maybe someone else knows...

sacred oxide Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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how do i set up the IK with all of this leftarm, leftarmroll etc?

marsh parcel Apr 1, 2022, 5:36 AM

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Hey would you guys happen to know why my handanim is happening at the same place a player would hold a launcher? The names of the bones seem fine I have binarized the rtm and have the proper model.cfg and the launcher bone is placed where I would like my weapon to be at.

desert raven Apr 1, 2022, 6:13 AM

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Launcher bone cant be moved. both it and weapon have fixed place in the firing stance. That must be same for your weapon. If you want different location you must offset yur weapon model in its own P3d and then offset the the animation same way relative to the launcher pose

marsh parcel Apr 1, 2022, 6:27 AM

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Would this be the same thing for a weapon? If so I think I would save myself some trouble if I were to make my project into a weapon

desert raven Apr 1, 2022, 6:28 AM

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Same for a weapon

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If you are trying to make some very unconventional weapon and holding animation, those can be very tricky

marsh parcel Apr 1, 2022, 6:32 AM

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Welp I appreciate the information lol I've been working on this for a while now trying to get snips of information all over the place now I have to learn how to offset the animation :)

desert raven Apr 1, 2022, 6:36 AM

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Basically you pose the weapon/launcher posi in the correct normal position and them make the hand positions somewhere else

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The hand positions from the weapon holding animation are read in relation to the weapon bone position

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Somewhere in the chat history there probably are pictures I've posted that elaborate on this

marsh parcel Apr 1, 2022, 7:44 AM

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desert raven Basically you pose the weapon/launcher posi in the correct normal position and t...

It worked! :D
For anyone that is ratting around the discord looking for steps
I first rotated the launcher model 90 degrees since it was rotated
Imported the T-Pose as the handanim so I could get a understanding of where things are positioned
Moved the launcher bone left/right to center the t-pose (center of the body worked) and moved the launcher up and down to get it to my desired spot then animate the arms to how I want it to be

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I still have to move the model in the p3d to the right position but I'll do that after I get a proper model

fast radish Apr 1, 2022, 7:12 PM

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hi does anyone know how to import the armarig in Cascadeur?

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I exported it from blender as .fbx and imported it in Cascadeur but it wont show up

desert raven Apr 1, 2022, 7:15 PM

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I don't think many people have used it much yet. So there are no established workflow for it

fast radish Apr 1, 2022, 7:16 PM

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ye ik i saw what polpox did with it and thought there is an answer

fast radish Apr 1, 2022, 9:46 PM

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How do i import the animation in arma, I know how to import it but what i mean is the jumping, etc.

subtle falcon Apr 1, 2022, 10:08 PM

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what do you mean? 🤔

fast radish Apr 1, 2022, 10:34 PM

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subtle falcon what do you mean? 🤔

like dances and jumps and stuff like that, idk how to import them in arma

fast canopy Apr 2, 2022, 5:17 AM

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fast radish hi does anyone know how to import the armarig in Cascadeur?

Not sure import or export which is your question but I recall I've done based on this: https://cascadeur.com/help/rig

Rig

What is a Rig

Cascadeur rig is a set of controllers attached to joints and used to animate the model.

To learn more about Cascadeur rig, see Rig Structure.

What Can Be Rigged

Any set of Joints

Rig Mode

Rigging is done in the dedicated Rig Mode.
In this mode, a set of in

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Also, highly doubt that you can import Macser's ArmaRig directly, as it has a lot of unnecessary things like IK controllers. You need to make a proper (w/o such things) Rig in Blender first

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 5:53 AM

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fast radish How do i import the animation in arma, I know how to import it but what i mean i...

First you need to learn to understand configs, then you need to learn how animation configs specifically work so you can create your own.

In short it will take quite a lot of learning on your own as a lot of it is not simple and written down in a tutorial.

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:45 PM

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fast canopy Also, highly doubt that you can import Macser's ArmaRig directly, as it has a lo...

yeah macser armarig doesnt work, I tried taking the character from the arma 3 samples and use the quick rigging tool but it kinda broke it so ill just do what u said and rig it in blender first

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:46 PM

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desert raven First you need to learn to understand configs, then you need to learn how animat...

I also know how animation confgis work (kinda) but whenever i import it in arma this shows

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https://prnt.sc/QTeORmiYrRAV

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(what i was trying to do is making the guy stand just to test if it works but clearly it doesnt)

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:50 PM

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well likely the config part is not right yet then

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or the animation itself did not export correctly

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:50 PM

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Do i have to import it in object builder first?

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:51 PM

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where did you export it from?

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:51 PM

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blender

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:51 PM

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then no it makes proper rtm

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how did you pack the rtm into pbo?

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:51 PM

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addon builder

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:51 PM

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that might not work correctly

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or it has had trouble binarizing rtms

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and I would anyway suggest using pboProject especially with extensive config stuff like animations

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:53 PM

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pboProjcet keeps giving me errors when i crunch them

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:53 PM

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as addon builder does not give you debug info on your config errors

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exactly

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you have to fix those errors

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if you expect your stuff to work

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blobcatsweats

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:53 PM

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yes ik but when i view the output its just empty

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:54 PM

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do you have logging enabled?

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:54 PM

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so thats confusing

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:54 PM

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and what does the debug console say

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:54 PM

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idk if i have enabled it or not because i cant find it

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ill do it again to see what the debug console say

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 1:55 PM

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there are 3 options for logging in the middle of pboProject dialog

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 1:55 PM

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OHHHHHHHHHHH

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i see it

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 2:11 PM

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(this might sound stupid) but it needs the "location of pivot points (local axes) for hierarchical animation" and tbh idk where that is or what he means?

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 2:45 PM

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you probably dont have proper model.cfg file with the character skeleton configured in it next to the rtms

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copy the sample character model.cfg into the folder your rtms are in

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 3:10 PM

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desert raven copy the sample character model.cfg into the folder your rtms are in

i did and this is what i get in the output
"rapWarning: missing file(s)*****
\Users\qmc\OneDrive\Desktop\model.cfg circa Line 132: A3\anims_f\data\skeleton\SkeletonPivots.p3d
rapWarning: missing file(s)*****
rapWarning: missing file(s)*****
model.cfgs for this pbo have errors"

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 3:21 PM

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you probably dont have proper P drive setup

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 3:51 PM

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I fixed it, Thanks for the help!!

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 5:13 PM

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so i imported the animation in arma 3 but the animation is not moving like it did in blender

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so he is supposed to stand but he is not moving

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https://prnt.sc/o5c5YMHa2U10

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Perhaps you exported only 1 frame

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Or maybe the config is made to be static

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 7:51 PM

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How do i export more than 1 frame and is there a different config for animations that are not static?

desert raven Apr 2, 2022, 9:15 PM

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Add more frames to the exported frames list and untic static from export options

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And compare animation classes from static poses and multi frame anims

fast radish Apr 2, 2022, 11:31 PM

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desert raven Add more frames to the exported frames list and untic static from export options

You mean these?

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https://prnt.sc/Mlcr8IBYkATb

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I checked the first box and unchecked the second one and still gets the same thing in arma

subtle falcon Apr 4, 2022, 5:41 PM

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fast radish I checked the first box and unchecked the second one and still gets the same thi...

uncheck "static pose"

regal dawn Apr 7, 2022, 7:31 PM

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When I Make Animation How Can i Make Many Animation on One Soldier?

desert raven Apr 7, 2022, 8:21 PM

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make many animations where?

regal dawn Apr 8, 2022, 6:31 AM

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@desert raven On a soldier like if i can make first go check a soldier treat him and after that making him to walk again not just staying there and treating all day

desert raven Apr 8, 2022, 8:00 AM

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That would running scripted and timed sequence of move commands and playmove/switchmove commands

regal dawn Apr 8, 2022, 8:00 AM

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desert raven That would running scripted and timed sequence of move commands and playmove/swi...

Ok

zinc flume Apr 8, 2022, 2:01 PM

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zinc flume hello guys I'm creating a parachute but I'm having a problem with the animation....

good day today friends
I managed to fix this error...
it's a scale limitation the ArmA doesn't identify the scale reduction I don't know why.

It didn't turn out as I wanted but I was successful

so if anyone has this same problem when creating more bones and not rescaling them.

https://imgur.com/UBJSHaC

https://imgur.com/066kNMI

https://imgur.com/0yEOsMW

https://imgur.com/vn70m2Q

desert raven Apr 8, 2022, 2:12 PM

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👍

stark kite Apr 8, 2022, 11:32 PM

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In my boat the driver animation is messed up and the seat is not available. If I use switchMove for testing on a unit the custom sitting animation is just showing up fine. What must be done for make a custom vehicle proxy animation?

desert raven Apr 10, 2022, 5:52 PM

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Rtm for animation. Driver/gunner/Cargo action in cfgmoves that use said rtm and the that action has to be defined to be used i the vehicles config for driverAction gunnerAction etc

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@stark kite

stark kite Apr 10, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Nice thanks, I just had to change the config from the rtm. Now its working like intended. The animation does not fit properly. I want to adjust the proxy in my p3d. How can I export the Blender file accordingly so I have a p3d of my animation to use as a Proxy in my boat. So I do not must repack and restart the game again and again to fit the animation?

desert raven Apr 10, 2022, 9:28 PM

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you have a proxy in the model -> you take armarig and move it and the character to the proxys 90 degree corner and rotate it to match the proxys direction

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then you make your animation so that it fits the proxys transformation

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and export rtm normally

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as rtm is exported from the armatures own model space, so its world position does not matter

stark kite Apr 11, 2022, 8:53 PM

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Ok, my driver is working now. But how do I get my custom gunner rtm to change his stance when aiming up or down? When I use other animations for the gunner from the basegame it is also not changing, so i think I have a problem with my configs? Also there is a little animation difference if the boat is only placed in editor or the game started. Nothing bad, but would be interesting to know why there is this difference

fast canopy Apr 15, 2022, 12:04 PM

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https://twitter.com/polpoxEN/status/1514937446911590400
Just released the Cascadeur Rig I made

POLPOX (@polpoxEN)

ArmaRig for Cascadeur release
https://t.co/yrroBVqZT8

Enjoy.

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(cc @fast radish if you're still interested with it)

fast radish Apr 15, 2022, 2:11 PM

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OOO yess, Thanks

desert raven Apr 15, 2022, 2:12 PM

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fast canopy https://twitter.com/polpoxEN/status/1514937446911590400 Just released the Cascad...

very cool!!

unreal sonnet Apr 15, 2022, 10:22 PM

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Is it possible to convert an existing animation mod to only apply to AI and not player skeletons?

desert raven Apr 15, 2022, 10:37 PM

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no

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well yes

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but in great difficulty

regal dawn Apr 22, 2022, 8:20 PM

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I'm trying to animate a blinking light on a stop sign, I have an emissive mesh named light_on
I'm not exactly sure of how to get it blinking but I have a rough idea of the config.cpp and model.cfg relationship
config.cpp https://pastebin.com/mPwGgqdB
model.cfg https://pastebin.com/V1XKUrst
screenshot of stop sign https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566060230824165383/967157957223673876/20220422161430_1.jpg

desert raven Apr 22, 2022, 8:47 PM

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how do you want to control it?

regal dawn Apr 22, 2022, 8:48 PM

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I'm not sure what you mean?

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as in control it through the config?

desert raven Apr 22, 2022, 9:10 PM

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how do you want to control it cycles

regal dawn Apr 22, 2022, 9:12 PM

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by blinking every second or two

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do you mean control it through animation source in the config?

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I know very little about animations and have only gotten doors to work

desert raven Apr 22, 2022, 9:22 PM

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time to learn more then. you could use time or clockSecond powered mirrored or looping hide animation to hide/show an emissive/bright overlay mesh on the lamp

regal dawn Apr 22, 2022, 9:23 PM

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is the config.cpp/model.cfg at least close?

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is there a particular line I need to change?

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I got it working just needed
source = "time";

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one other thing, I'm trying to create a lens flare that's synced to the emissive object popping in an out, is that possible?

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I looked at class MarkerLights and it has a blinking feature with blinking = 1; but there seems to be no way of adjusting the blinking speed

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marker lights seems to come with an actual lightpoint and lens flare, if possible I'm hoping to just have a lens flare

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it's not critical but it would look nice

drowsy nymph Apr 23, 2022, 9:41 AM

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blinkingPattern[] array is supposed to control rate of flashing marker lights. Contains two values i.e. {durationOn, durationOff} in seconds usually. Not sure if you can do complex patterns with more indices in the array, but maybe

white juniper Apr 26, 2022, 9:00 AM

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You can

// timeline for the blinking effect. Every item in the array is time mark,
// the rule is that _blinkingPattern[i] < _blinkingPattern[i+1]
you can have the pattern as long as you want

sacred oxide Apr 27, 2022, 5:42 PM

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https://imgur.com/hgjEehg
https://imgur.com/QAd1Kw7
does the rig need to have the hips at world origin, llike this memory for the stances to work or? curiosity
because, when importing the .rtms from arma 3 samples; when the hips/rig are above world origin (and feet are on ground), the rig gets moved into the sky

desert raven Apr 27, 2022, 7:16 PM

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its just the rig not being made for animation importing

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it has unconnected bones that dont quite work with the import

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:24 AM

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moved message from model_makers since this is probably the proper place to post
hey folks, what would cause a useractions position to not stay static in the model? the point isnt tied to any other named selection in any LOD

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:27 AM

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Model maker would have been fine since you're saying its not actually animated. What does non static mean though?

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:28 AM

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the door itself is animating properly and will open/close when the option is selected in the scroll wheel

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:28 AM

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If you have only a action with trigger memorypoint and radius you can access it from various directions within the radius

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:28 AM

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its the mem point that is being used as the trigger location

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:29 AM

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Only if its tied to a geometry trigger does it move properly with the animation

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:29 AM

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thing is, i dont want it to move with the door

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the trigger mem point is in the center of the doorway in blender/OB, in game its saying its to the left of the "lock" location when closed, then totally outside of the doorway when open

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the trigger mem point is only apart of itself and no other named vertex group in any other LOD, so it shoudnt be moving like it does

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just confused as to why its being moved when nothing thats being animated is attached to it

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:38 AM

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My Previous experience has been that the trigger point does not animate if its not part of animated selection but perhaps that had changed or I have been mistaken.

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:39 AM

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the doors do animate, and you can scroll wheel

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its just idk why its being moved with the door

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:39 AM

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But you could the tie it to a geometry part and keep that in place

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:40 AM

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true

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that might be what i have to do. although i did attempt to just add the vertex group as a bone and tie it to the frame if you will to no avail

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let me go give it a whirl

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:45 AM

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Im pretty much always using the geometry triggers now myself. It works so much more reliably

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:46 AM

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how so? you just using a named group instead of a mem point?

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:48 AM

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When it's tied to geometry part(s) action comes up only when lookin at those parts

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:49 AM

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i suppose i could always increase the radius up some.

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:49 AM

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The trigger mempoint can be "seen" from wrong places/directions sometimes

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:50 AM

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yeah, this is weird

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its acting like its using one of the axis mem points for my left door rather then the center

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:50 AM

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Like it makes sense to me that if you want to open a door you look at it and then you also look at it when you close it

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:50 AM

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i tried to tie it into the frame of the doorway with no luck

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:50 AM

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Or want to press a button you look at it

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:50 AM

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i could add a button

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:51 AM

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If you just name it as the frame that does nothing

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:51 AM

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i assigned the vertex to the named group

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:51 AM

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Yes that does nothing

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:51 AM

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huh

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i thought that would work like it does for other things

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:51 AM

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The frame has no function

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Unless it's animated

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:52 AM

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so i would add the selection i want to use as the trigger to the geo lod?

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:53 AM

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There is a userAction config parameter for that. And name of that parameter is then put on geometry component

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Sample house has these I think

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:54 AM

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the postion for useractions right?

desert raven Apr 30, 2022, 7:54 AM

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Can't remember off the top of my head.

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 7:55 AM

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let me go open up the sample house model

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yeah. sample house has the trigger being in the mem lod

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this is so strange

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it is acting like its using the first axis point for the left door rather then my trigger point

fallow marsh Apr 30, 2022, 8:26 AM

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yeah no idea. im done for the night though

bright eagle May 9, 2022, 1:06 AM

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Hello Arma friends. First time posting here and new to a lot of things arma modding related. but, looking for some help or maybe someone to push me in the right direction. After about 3 weekends now, im hard stuck.
Im creating a Kangaroo with a custom skeleton to function like arma animals do (Rabbit, etc..). Ive got all the ingredients (I think) I need to make it work but I cant get the animations to work in game.
The model and bones/weighting/animations were made in Blender following various tutorials and referencing a lot of others works and reading through this discord, and I have them loading up properly in Object Builder and even (mostly) simulating/animating correctly.
However, when I import them into the game my Kangaroo does a smooth 30 degree rotation and just sits there. The list of my animations are appearing in the animation viewer (in game) but my model wont animate. Im down to the point now assuming this is a config error, so if someone can take a look i have it *all pretty much in my config.cpp: https://paste-bin.xyz/56492
Everything is a bit crude at this stage but i plan to clean everything up once i can get it to work and document and share my findings. 🙂

subtle falcon May 9, 2022, 9:43 AM

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bright eagle Hello Arma friends. First time posting here and new to a lot of things arma modd...

How did you export your bones hierarchy? If your RTM works in OB, it might be related to this or the config. Can you take a screenshot of your armature hierarchy in blender and show us how it looks ingame ?

bright eagle May 10, 2022, 4:19 AM

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subtle falcon How did you export your bones hierarchy? If your RTM works in OB, it might be re...

https://imgur.com/LmM5V1M
https://imgur.com/a/Awectxd
https://imgur.com/ykCh1iA
https://imgur.com/32zN6Ou
These hopefully will help. Not sure what you need to see ingame? Also Ive tried a lot of variations of hierarchy in blender and CfgModel/Skel: No hierarchy and the ones from these images.

subtle falcon May 10, 2022, 6:35 PM

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bright eagle https://imgur.com/LmM5V1M https://imgur.com/a/Awectxd https://imgur.com/ykCh1iA ...

The hierarchy in your model.cfg and in blender must be the same. Your RTM works in object builder, right? I'll send you a script to copy directly your armature to your clipboard (so you just have to past it in your model.cfg)

cyan ivy May 10, 2022, 7:59 PM

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any suggestion to make an animation like this?
https://youtu.be/JDF6DMu_nII

desert raven May 10, 2022, 8:08 PM

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pretty much do rotating parts just like that has and it works

cyan ivy May 10, 2022, 8:11 PM

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its like it rotates simultaneously on two axis at once

desert raven May 10, 2022, 8:20 PM

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its chain of rotating parts

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each pushes the next one

bright eagle May 14, 2022, 6:48 AM

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subtle falcon The hierarchy in your model.cfg and in blender must be the same. Your RTM works ...

Well update. Script wasnt working but this is im pretty sure what Ive been using and seems to not be working. https://imgur.com/a/Ptls4eY

subtle falcon May 14, 2022, 11:58 AM

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bright eagle Well update. Script wasnt working but this is im pretty sure what Ive been using...

Weird. Just click on your armature in object mode (in the viewport) then run the script. It works, I've been using it for years. This is a small script we made because we needed to work on multiple animals at once. I can record a small video to show you how it works.

glacial pilot May 14, 2022, 1:54 PM

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bright eagle Well update. Script wasnt working but this is im pretty sure what Ive been using...

"leftArm", "spine2"
"rightArm","spine2"
are wrong, they both need to be connected to "spine1" instead

bright eagle May 14, 2022, 2:44 PM

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subtle falcon Weird. Just click on your armature in object mode (in the viewport) then run the...

I will try again I just wasn't getting anything.

bright eagle May 14, 2022, 2:45 PM

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glacial pilot "leftArm", "spine2" "rightArm","spine2" are wrong, they both need to be connect...

You are correct! That is my mistake. Will update soon... :)

subtle falcon May 14, 2022, 5:02 PM

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Sharing the video here too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvkmXIsnzrw

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I'm pretty sure someone else made an addon to extract the bones hierarchy but since I didn't know it back then, we made this small script

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feel free to take it and use it if you need it (it's in the description of the video)

desert raven May 14, 2022, 5:14 PM

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it does not hurt to be able to write id down correctly manually tho 😅 helps to understand how things work

subtle falcon May 14, 2022, 5:23 PM

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true

bright eagle May 14, 2022, 6:22 PM

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Script worked. 🙂 But no luck. Curious though that even if my skeleton "structure" is a little messed up the animation would just look wrong in game. but it just doesnt play.

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 2:17 PM

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Is there a possibility to change how weapons are beeing hold? (gestures)
how it should look: http://prntscr.com/dPMuiGFQ8EC0
how it looks: http://prntscr.com/jc-aDQAHLPqB

desert raven May 15, 2022, 2:25 PM

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well depends on your gestrures blending mask I suppose

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 2:27 PM

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desert raven well depends on your gestrures blending mask I suppose

RL_BothArmGun[] = {"LeftShoulder",1,"LeftArm",1,"LeftArmRoll",1,"LeftForeArm",1,"LeftForeArmRoll",1,"LeftHand",1,"LeftHandIndex1",1,"LeftHandIndex2",1,"LeftHandIndex3",1,"LeftHandMiddle1",1,"LeftHandMiddle2",1,"LeftHandMiddle3",1,"LeftHandPinky1",1,"LeftHandMiddle2",1,"LeftHandMiddle3",1,"LeftHandPinky1",1,"LeftHandPinky2",1,"LeftHandPinky3",1,"LeftHandRing",1,"LeftHandRing1",1,"LeftHandRing2",1,"LeftHandRing3",1,"LeftHandThumb1",1,"LeftHandThumb2",1,"LeftHandThumb3",1,"RightShoulder",1,"RightArm",1,"RightArmRoll",1,"RightForeArm",1,"RightForeArmRoll",1,"RightHand",1,"RightHandIndex1",1,"RightHandIndex2",1,"RightHandIndex3",1,"RightHandMiddle1",1,"RightHandMiddle2",1,"RightHandMiddle3",1,"RightHandPinky1",1,"RightHandMiddle2",1,"RightHandMiddle3",1,"RightHandPinky1",1,"RightHandPinky2",1,"RightHandPinky3",1,"RightHandRing",1,"RightHandRing1",1,"RightHandRing2",1,"RightHandRing3",1,"RightHandThumb1",1,"RightHandThumb2",1,"RightHandThumb3",1,"Weapon",1};

desert raven May 15, 2022, 2:27 PM

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perhaps not then blobdoggoshruggoogly

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it might need to be played as animation instead of gesture

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:00 PM

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frosty yew Is there a possibility to change how weapons are beeing hold? (gestures) how it ...

that's related to weapon IK

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make sure weapon IK is 0

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same goes for right hand and left hand IK

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:03 PM

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cerulean pivot same goes for right hand and left hand IK

leftHandIK = 0;
rightHandIK = 0;```

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:03 PM

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frosty yew ```weaponIK = 0; leftHandIK = 0; rightHandIK = 0;```

is that what you use already?

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:03 PM

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cerulean pivot is that what you use already?

no, but I'll try it out with the new params

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:04 PM

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frosty yew no, but I'll try it out with the new params

I don't think it's called "leftHandIK"

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use this:

leftHandIKBeg=0;
leftHandIKCurve[]={};
leftHandIKEnd=0;
rightHandIKBeg=0;
rightHandIKCurve[]={};
rightHandIKEnd=0;
weaponIK=0;

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:08 PM

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cerulean pivot use this: ```cpp leftHandIKBeg=0; leftHandIKCurve[]={}; leftHandIKEnd=0; rightHa...

it works, but now the weapon is not connected to the hand (e.g. when I move)

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:09 PM

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cerulean pivot I don't think it's called "leftHandIK"

http://prntscr.com/ekqOS-JkCgke
http://prntscr.com/TNbNY2AfTuab
moving vs. standing

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:11 PM

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frosty yew http://prntscr.com/ekqOS-JkCgke http://prntscr.com/TNbNY2AfTuab moving vs. stand...

is the weapon on your back?

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or have you selected it?

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:12 PM

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cerulean pivot is the weapon on your back?

in hand

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:12 PM

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I don't see why

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your mask is correct

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:14 PM

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frosty yew it works, but now the weapon is not connected to the hand (e.g. when I move)

what about this?

leftHandIKBeg=1;
leftHandIKCurve[]={1};
leftHandIKEnd=1;
rightHandIKBeg=1;
rightHandIKCurve[]={1};
rightHandIKEnd=1;
weaponIK=0;

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if this doesn't work then idk

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:15 PM

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cerulean pivot what about this? ```cpp leftHandIKBeg=1; leftHandIKCurve[]={1}; leftHandIKEnd=1;...

        {
            file="r\RL\addons\Animations\anim_data\gunInFrontOfChest.rtm";
            mask = "RL_BothArmGun";
            showItemInHand = 1;
            aimingNo[] = {};
            aiming = "empty";
            disableWeapons = 1;
            leftHandIK = 0;
            rightHandIK = 0;
            leftHandIKBeg=0;
            leftHandIKCurve[]={};
            leftHandIKEnd=0;
            rightHandIKBeg=0;
            rightHandIKCurve[]={};
            rightHandIKEnd=0;
            weaponIK=0;
        };```

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:16 PM

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frosty yew ```class RL_gunInFrontOfChest: RL_Anim_left_Base { file="r\R...

try what I said first

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:19 PM

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cerulean pivot try what I said first

http://prntscr.com/MMljyX-iWuW5

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:20 PM

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frosty yew http://prntscr.com/MMljyX-iWuW5

ok nvm... meowsweats

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I don't see why the weapon is moving thonk

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especially if it's in your hands

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maybe remove showItemInHand = 1;

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or make it 0 (if you have defined it in what you inherit from)

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maybe that could solve it

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:24 PM

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cerulean pivot maybe remove `showItemInHand = 1;`

i changed it to 0, but same result as before

cerulean pivot May 15, 2022, 3:25 PM

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I'm out of ideas then blobdoggoshruggoogly

frosty yew May 15, 2022, 3:26 PM

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cerulean pivot I'm out of ideas then <:blobdoggoshruggoogly:748124048025714758>

ok, but it should be fine. thank you

desert raven May 15, 2022, 3:55 PM

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if you want new movesets you have to make new movesets altogether I think

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those poses and whatnot are meant just for static situations

subtle falcon May 15, 2022, 5:31 PM

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yup you need to create new anims and new movesets to replace all the existing ones

desert raven May 19, 2022, 11:35 AM

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@narrow bronze this is Arma3 channel

narrow bronze May 19, 2022, 11:48 AM

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Sorry

tall ocean May 25, 2022, 5:29 AM

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Anyone know if theres a drill mod?

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Like rifle drill/color guard etc etc

tall ocean May 25, 2022, 9:57 AM

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I'd like to start a mod doing just that ^ If anyone is interested in helping?

desert raven May 25, 2022, 6:14 PM

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tall ocean Anyone know if theres a drill mod?

Im gonna guess that if you have not found any there isnt any.

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Such things are little out of typical arma gameplay

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also please dont post same question on multiple channels as per #rules

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in the future, general arma 3 questions should go to #arma3_questions

tall ocean May 25, 2022, 10:33 PM

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gotcha my bad, I'll delete my other one 🙂

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Thanks for the heads up!

wispy prairie Jun 1, 2022, 6:38 PM

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im trying to add a custom character to arma 3, all from the groud up. model skelteon animation and all, does anyone have and resources i can use to try and learn how to do it without trial and error? thanks

desert raven Jun 1, 2022, 6:42 PM

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wispy prairie im trying to add a custom character to arma 3, all from the groud up. model skel...

there are nearly no written stuff for that im afraid. There has been less than 10 people around who have tinkered with that in the past years and none of us have really spark for tutorial book writing

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it mostly comes down to understanding and being able to read the configs and connect the dots between different classes and config lines

wispy prairie Jun 1, 2022, 6:43 PM

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me and another person are trying to work on it togther, since we have had some previous experience

desert raven Jun 1, 2022, 6:51 PM

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the Arma 3 samples animal can be a good starting reference

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its a bit simpler config than full man character one so it can be easier to read

wispy prairie Jun 1, 2022, 6:52 PM

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is there anything special i have to do when im rigging the bones

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or do i do it as normal?

desert raven Jun 1, 2022, 7:04 PM

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What would you count as special? 😅

wispy prairie Jun 1, 2022, 7:04 PM

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uhh

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good question

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thanks for your help, ill take it from here, if i have any other question i know where to come

desert raven Jun 1, 2022, 7:05 PM

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nothing comes to ming really. RTM contains all frames so whatever movement you got, the rtm will have

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(make sure to use the ArmaToolbox addon and its rtm export)

subtle falcon Jun 2, 2022, 6:53 AM

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Concerning custom characters, there is not only one workflow, we all do it in a different way (especially for animations)

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and as HorribleGoat said, I don't think anyone has the faith to create documentation. You can of course ask your questions here and if we can answer them, we will.

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About the config: if you're making a basic animal (like a rabbit), you can take a look at the Arma samples. This is probably the best way to start.

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but go step by step, don't try to make a complex character ^^

desert raven Jun 2, 2022, 11:59 AM

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lot of self learning is involved and yes starting from a simpler thing is good. It will just need the time investment to explore how it works

marsh shard Jun 5, 2022, 6:50 AM

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In OB, what is the purpose of "import from matrices?" It only seems to remove the skeleton.

subtle falcon Jun 5, 2022, 7:21 AM

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marsh shard In OB, what is the purpose of "import from matrices?" It only seems to remove t...

"From Matrices" in the animation window? It's used to import RTMs

subtle falcon Jun 5, 2022, 7:29 AM

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marsh shard In OB, what is the purpose of "import from matrices?" It only seems to remove t...

Ah, I misread the question: Not really useful except for previsualizing an animation on a character. You can do the same in Blender.

marsh shard Jun 5, 2022, 9:13 AM

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subtle falcon Ah, I misread the question: Not really useful except for previsualizing an anima...

Oof. I use 3DS Max

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I was hoping to make a p3d from a vanilla rtm so I can line up seat and pilot proxies in Buldozer. I can't assign an rtm to the proxy.

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I am stuck with loading the plane into a mission and guessing at how offset the positions are, then making adjustments, compiling, wash, rinse, repeat.

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Is there an easier way to do this?

desert raven Jun 5, 2022, 10:54 AM

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Nearly all vanilla cargo actions got proxies in the A3 data

candid socket Jun 6, 2022, 12:38 PM

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The Game needs a Cat--- like it has a Dog !!!!

subtle falcon Jun 9, 2022, 10:46 AM

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candid socket The Game needs a Cat--- like it has a Dog !!!!

Technically, there is a cat. It's a big orange cat but it's a cat. It doesn't meow though.

candid socket Jun 9, 2022, 12:52 PM

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subtle falcon Technically, there is a cat. It's a big orange cat but it's a cat. It doesn't me...

@subtle falcon what do you mean ? Oo 🤔

desert raven Jun 9, 2022, 1:20 PM

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candid socket <@107663333980659712> what do you mean ? Oo 🤔

search workshop for tiger

candid socket Jun 9, 2022, 1:26 PM

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ah... okey .. i know that ...
but i would prefer a pet Cat ... with meow and so on ... !!!

subtle falcon Jun 9, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Well, maybe someone will add a cat. We already have emus, kangaroos and dinosaurs so... 😅

glad granite Jun 30, 2022, 10:38 AM

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Anyone to add a few more human animations:

raising both hands to keep weapons out of water;
And blind firing ones (as in Escape From Tarkov):
over the head shooting;
corner's side shooting (left & right)

To be added in Enhanced Movement Rework, contact is @spectre.

fast canopy Jun 30, 2022, 10:38 AM

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Try #creators_recruiting

graceful heart Jul 6, 2022, 10:30 AM

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Is there a limit to the number of gesture animations that can be run on a given unit (say, with playAction) at the same time, assuming that none of them effect the same parts of the skeleton?

The broader thought behind this question is to allow for putting a soldier's rifle "on a sling" in front of them while doing activities like transitioning to a sidearm, similar to what GGE Weapon Sling mod does, but without attaching an object to the soldier, or removing the rifle from the soldier's inventory.

Could one make a gesture animation that moves the primary weapon proxy to "hang" in front of the unit's torso, and simply run this anim (probably in some sort of loop) whenever the rifle is supposed to be "on a sling"?

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The question on gesture limits arises because, if you're running this "sling" gesture all the time, it may not allow other animations like reloading the pistol--or worse, make the rifle fly around all over the place when someone goes to reload the pistol, as the proxy is suddenly no longer being animated to be in front of the model

desert raven Jul 6, 2022, 11:50 AM

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I dont think that is possible

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you would need a new moveset for that

subtle falcon Jul 6, 2022, 11:53 AM

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yep, you need new movesets

graceful heart Jul 6, 2022, 9:42 PM

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So, massive amounts of work. Got it 😄

desert raven Jul 6, 2022, 10:05 PM

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well depends on how much experience you got I suppose

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not the easiest task

graceful heart Jul 6, 2022, 10:30 PM

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I've never animated anything, but I've spent the last few months learning how scripting works for other arma-related projects. It's on my list of to-learn, though. Even though the config side of animations looks incredibly tedious

desert raven Jul 6, 2022, 10:37 PM

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there is a lot to learn before it goes smoothly

graceful heart Jul 6, 2022, 10:38 PM

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Any suggestions for tutorials on the process? My 3d modeler of choice is Blender

desert raven Jul 6, 2022, 10:41 PM

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Im not very up to date with tutorials but anything that touches topic if skeletal animation can be useful. Could be good idea to join one of the Blender Community Discords for up to date info on tutorials

graceful heart Jul 6, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Cool, thank you!

oblique lodge Jul 8, 2022, 5:35 AM

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when you make an animation say for a pump shotgun, how would you go about adding a weight to the action so it isnt so slidy?

desert raven Jul 8, 2022, 5:48 AM

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compare to real world videos of the action, the gun has some inertia movement with the pumping motion, there may be a slight pause at the far end of the pump where arm gets ready to push the pump back

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stuff like that makes the difference

oblique lodge Jul 8, 2022, 7:30 AM

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so to mimic the push force and such you see on a pump would you hold the frames off a few frames to mimic that?

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currently i have just the pump animation running at 30 frames and set evenly across it for a smooth but slidy pump

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And thank you in advance for the help and advice

oblique lodge Jul 9, 2022, 8:39 PM

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how important is the IK curve in an animation? i cant find anything online about it and when my guy puts the animation in the game the wrists are all screwed up and the hand doesnt do the animation right. the pump does though

desert raven Jul 9, 2022, 9:36 PM

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IK curve determines how much effect the underlying weapon holding pose has VS the reload animation

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its and array of time and affect power

oblique lodge Jul 9, 2022, 9:43 PM

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The hand moves all weird but the pump is fine and my wrists are all twisted but in blender and object viewer the model is fine

desert raven Jul 9, 2022, 10:25 PM

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video might be good to see

cloud perch Jul 9, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Hey Goat, I spent some time working with the IK curve in an attempt to smooth out the animation, and that's coming along sound, thank you for the advice. The only issue now is a slight jump at the end, which appears to be very similar to this post by Forky. I reached out to him already regarding the issue, but if anyone else has any input, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance.

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Another issue was how the animation did not seem to be quite the same in buldozer as it is in game, but I think that chalks up to the fact that in-game we have the IK restrictions, and in buldozer, it's a copy of how the rig had been prepared prior to export.

desert raven Jul 9, 2022, 11:08 PM

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yeah buldozer does not preview the same

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unless your IK curve is fully 0 all the time

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(both hands)

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the jump is likely due to difference in the pose the animation is made in VS the actual pose in game

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a little bit longer end transtion might be good

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:20 AM

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when i make a animation in blender it looks all good and everything (still figuring out a few things), but when we put it into arma it ends up looking all wierd. Here is a pic https://imgur.com/a/7SJz8o8

Imgur

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i've only messed with the fingers on that arm

cerulean pivot Jul 10, 2022, 1:22 AM

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it looks like the hand is too far from the body

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move the hand closer

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or just set the left hand IK to 0

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Or maybe you twisted the arm too much

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The angle of the wrist doesn't look right

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The wrist should be turned futher to the left

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:37 AM

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i didnt touch the wrist is why i am confused

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in object builder and blender it looks fine

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only in game is it all funky heh

fast canopy Jul 10, 2022, 1:38 AM

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If you touched or not, is not a concern because it blends two animation. This is why it only happens ingame

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:38 AM

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so i should make the blend file look a little funky so it shows right in game?

fast canopy Jul 10, 2022, 1:39 AM

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Try what Leopard said first

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:39 AM

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can do

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:39 AM

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for weapon holding animations only the hands and fingers change, from the wrist up the engine tries to blend the pose with the underlying default rifle holding pose

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:39 AM

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I know we tried the ik to 0 trick, but i can pull it back maybe too

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:40 AM

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so your shoulder, arm, etc position wont matter

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:40 AM

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if i had to raise or lower the hand would that mess it up?

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i only used the rig selection for the hand so

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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its possible you have twisted the hand bone 360 degrees

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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i only messed with the finger bones

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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I would reset the left hand bone

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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i never rotated the hand rig

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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and position it again

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eh?

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what does it look like in blender?

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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im using a hand ref from soemone else so maybe that is why.

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it looks great in blender

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:41 AM

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very possible

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:42 AM

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and in object builder

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:42 AM

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OB look does not matter

fast canopy Jul 10, 2022, 1:42 AM

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Again

If you touched or not, is not a concern because it blends two animation. This is why it only happens ingame
Because it only blends ingame

oblique lodge Jul 10, 2022, 1:44 AM

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gotcha. i appreciate the replies as well

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this is all new to me so it is a trip for sure

desert raven Jul 10, 2022, 1:49 AM

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so the default rifle pose is something like this

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when you make your own animation it tries to adapt this to fit your hands

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but at some angles it bugs

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as it cant reach the hand/wrist

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or the hand has some bad rotation it cant handle

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It is also possible the hand bone is not correctly named and does not receive actual rotation info

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though it would not be in correct position if that was the case

cloud perch Jul 10, 2022, 2:57 AM

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I believe the main issue that is causing this is his having built the handAnim off of a pre-existing handAnim that had had it's hand bone rotated

oblique lodge Jul 11, 2022, 9:18 AM

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ok so i fixed the issue with the wrist and such but when someone hits ctrl twice and lowers the weapon the arm moves but the hand animation stays, which breaks it and makes it look jank. I should get a pic of it by tomorrow as it is late here. Any idea why the hand would stay and mess it up?

desert raven Jul 11, 2022, 12:47 PM

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That is odd. Either you are somehow breaking all animation config or some other modded feature messes it up.

thorny minnow Jul 12, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Need some help. I want to use a custom rtm for a weapon. I'm using the armarig v6 on blender

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do I just need to export the animation/rtm with 1 frame in it to use hand animations?

desert raven Jul 12, 2022, 10:10 PM

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yes

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as long as the frame time is 0 in the frame list, it works

thorny minnow Jul 12, 2022, 10:13 PM

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desert raven as long as the frame time is 0 in the frame list, it works

Ah I see. I figured but wasn't sure. Does it matter if I export the whole rig? Mainly concerned about the handanim for weapons and not sure how arma is going to take into account the other bones in the armarig for blender.

desert raven Jul 12, 2022, 10:14 PM

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whole rig yes

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in game weapon animation is pasted over the standard rifle/launcher pose and the hands positioned in place according to their offset from weapon/launcher bone

thorny minnow Jul 12, 2022, 10:17 PM

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Thanks chief 👌

thorny minnow Jul 13, 2022, 5:09 PM

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desert raven in game weapon animation is pasted over the standard rifle/launcher pose and the...

@desert raven We tried to export the rtm's for a custom animation, but apparently they are not doing anything iin the script and the character just resets to default arma animation. Any idea what we're missing when exporting the rtms? The files are in the kb size, though in blender I added the key frame for each

desert raven Jul 13, 2022, 5:23 PM

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sounds like the frames dont export

thorny minnow Jul 13, 2022, 5:55 PM

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turns out it was a config issue, the rtm is fine

thorny minnow Jul 20, 2022, 4:35 PM

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desert raven sounds like the frames dont export

@desert raven Hey chief, quick question

When it comes to a weapon rtm for holding weapon and reload animations, how much of the animation do I need to pose for Arma 3? Do I need to take every single bone into account including feet stance for both? or does arma only calculate certain bones positions for things like holding weapon and animations?

Thanks

desert raven Jul 20, 2022, 4:39 PM

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no it basically just uses hands and fingers in relation to the weapon bone

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the rest is not used

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however using the default rifle pose as base is beneficial to preview how it approximately looks like in game

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and when making reload animations it is better to start reload with the base stance applied

frank yoke Jul 21, 2022, 1:06 AM

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Is it just me or the "add keyframe range" option is gone from A3 toolbox for blender?

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https://i.imgur.com/bgcTBa8.png

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desert raven Jul 21, 2022, 1:20 AM

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should be there

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which version you got?

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blender and toolbox

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@frank yoke

frank yoke Jul 21, 2022, 2:11 AM

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Blender 3.2.1

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Toolbox 3.0.4

fast canopy Jul 21, 2022, 8:49 AM

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https://vxtwitter.com/polpoxEN/status/1550025573908742144
Tried to rig the head with a lot of support bones, and this is the result so far. Can't say what is unnatural because of lack of the knowledge

vxTwitter

Tried pain expression

POLPOX (@polpoxEN)

Tried pain expression

▶ Play video

subtle falcon Jul 21, 2022, 11:47 AM

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frank yoke https://i.imgur.com/bgcTBa8.png

Use an older Blender version

desert raven Jul 21, 2022, 11:48 AM

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or newer toolbox 😉

subtle falcon Jul 21, 2022, 11:48 AM

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Doesn't work with the latest one :/

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It's missing the"add all frames" option

desert raven Jul 21, 2022, 12:04 PM

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subtle falcon Doesn't work with the latest one :/

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latest one might not be on the git though 🤔

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@meager oar is it ok to share more recent version?

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of the toolbox

meager oar Jul 21, 2022, 12:05 PM

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Yeah go ahead

desert raven Jul 21, 2022, 12:06 PM

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👍 tanks

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Arma Toolbox Experimental Build 3.1.1

📎 ArmaToolbox_3.zip

meager oar Jul 21, 2022, 12:17 PM

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Please note that the later versions have some experimental features that may or may not work as expected, so proceed with caution. Having said that, though, I have been using this version since quite a while for all my Arma 4 modding.

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LOL I mean Arma 3

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(WIshful thinking)

desert raven Jul 21, 2022, 12:20 PM

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😄

subtle falcon Jul 21, 2022, 1:08 PM

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desert raven

Oh, thank you! I recently worked on some animations with blender 3.2 with the latest github version of toolbox but I didn't realize I didn't have the "add all frames" option until I finished working on the 6 animations. Instead of redoing the animations in Blender 3.1, I added the 120 frames manually.... for the 6 animations. 😅