#arma3_config | ARMA | Page 18

wintry fox Sep 30, 2023, 3:04 AM

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Ah the vehicle I was going to modify did have a "glass" hiddenSelections, but it apparently isn't set up correctly 🙃

balmy atlas Sep 30, 2023, 3:31 AM

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is there a way to force an event handler, via config, onto all children of man class? I need to force **ItemSlotChanged **on all human units, but it's currently not supported by CBA_A3 extended event handlers.
I attempted to run Init and PostInit, which would issue it via script, but it'd be lost after returning back to editor from mission file and would fail to work again.

wintry fox Sep 30, 2023, 3:33 AM

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Init/PostInit should still fire after returning to the editor and starting again

balmy atlas Sep 30, 2023, 3:41 AM

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perhaps i missed something. i'll give it another try, thanks.

opal crater Sep 30, 2023, 6:41 AM

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We should be doing CBA update soon™️ it will support that EH for XEH

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You can test the RC here:
https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/releases/tag/v3.16.0.230926-RC1

pseudo kite Sep 30, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Hey guys, been working on a Top Secret Mod.Promise you guys wont tell anyone!!

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Its a One AI Tank mod that makes the Tanks use only one ai and has the weapons under the drivers control aswell as being able to move the turret.I have been tinkering with it for awhile now only in free time.Have had some wins with it but am having trouble with getting all the turrets weapons under the command of the driver.Was gonna ask for help or for someone to help with its development but am gonna leak it here and see if someone here is interested in developing it.Its inspired by a mod for OFP from a very long time ago.Fantastic for saving cpu resources in large scale missions.I envisioned extending development to pretty much all of Arma 's vehicles under there own category to maximise efficiency in all vehicles in all missions.For those interested and capable heres a link to my dev version.Config's been edited.Best to use a fresh version.-https://www.mediafire.com/file/nyyh94bqdss1yn2/@One+AI+Tanks+Mod.7z/file

MediaFire

@One AI Tanks Mod

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I'am handing the mod/concept to anyone capable and motivated.

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Steve.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 1:50 PM

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okay,
My quest to turn the basic
initPlayerLocal.sqf
onPlayerKilled.sqf
onPlayerRespawn.sqf
(save respawn loadout)
into a mod, I have set up a new modfolder in my P drive.
set up a basic config.cpp

class CfgPatches
{
    class HAMS_Spawn
    {
        author=    "Hamsch";
        name="Hamsch's Loadout Saver";
        weapons[]={};
        magazines[]={};
        ammo[]={};
        units[]={};
        requiredVersion=0.1;
        requiredAddons[]=
        {
            
        };
    };
};

class CfgFunctions
{
    class HAMS_Spawn
    {
        class SpawnSettings
        {
            file = "HAMS_Loadout_Saver\functions";
        };

        class myFSMFunction
        {
            preInit        = 1;
        };
    
    };
};

with fnc_SaveLoadout.sqf containing

HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerRespawn = player addEventHandler ["Respawn", {
    params ["_newObject", "_oldObject"];

    deleteVehicle _oldObject;

    player switchMove "UnconsciousFaceDown";
    player playMove "UnconsciousOutProne";

    player setUnitLoadout (player getVariable ["Saved_Loadout", (configFile >> "EmptyLoadout")]);

    private _loadout = getUnitLoadout player;
    private _radio = (_loadout select 9) select 2;
    if (_radio isEqualTo "") then {
        player addItem "TFAR_anprc152";
        player assignItem "TFAR_anprc152";
        hint "Radio Added";
    };
}];

HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerKilled = player addEventHandler ["Killed", {
    params ["_unit", "_killer", "_instigator", "_useEffects"];

    _unit setVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout", getUnitLoadout _unit];
}];```

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:22 PM

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okay I ran a test of it and nothing happened

molten musk Sep 30, 2023, 2:45 PM

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cunning reef okay I ran a test of it and nothing happened

If you take a look
#arma3_config message

You need to add in file = "" full path.

file = "HAMS_Spawn\HAMS_Loadout_Spawn_Saver\functions";

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:47 PM

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uhh

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that would be incorrect, I belive

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P:\HAMS_Loadout_Saver\functions

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:50 PM

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You CfgFunctions looks completely wrong anyway. You're supposed to be declaring a class for each function.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:51 PM

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for each function?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:51 PM

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As for the paths, it depends on your PBO prefix.

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yes

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:51 PM

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Isnt there just one?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Well, you're not declaring that one.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:52 PM

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ah

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:52 PM

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It looks like you're giving it a folder name and expecting it to include all files inside.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:52 PM

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well how would one declair it?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:54 PM

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I don't know. What's your PBO prefix?

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:54 PM

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huh?

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pbo prefix?

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ah

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right

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you mean

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$PBOPREFIX$

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I honestly had no idea what I was suppose to put in there so I just guessed and put P:\HAMS_Loadout_Saver in there

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:55 PM

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right, it's important.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:56 PM

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like when I read about it on the wiki the need for it confused me

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:56 PM

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PBO prefix is where that PBO's contents are loaded in the virtual filesystem.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:56 PM

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right

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so should that be directed to like, @ folder or something?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:57 PM

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If you only have one PBO I guess you could use \HAMS_Loadout_Saver

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:57 PM

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yeah

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I dont see a need for more PBOs atm

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okay so I put just that in the $PBOPREFIX$

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anything else?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:58 PM

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I guess it doesn't need the backslash.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:58 PM

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I figure its still not declaired

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:58 PM

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chilly tulip I guess it doesn't need the backslash.

roger

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how do I declare class for each function then?

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since im guessing thats not what I just did

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 2:59 PM

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Give me a sec, I need to compile like four pieces of info you put in different places :P

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 2:59 PM

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(Dont read too much into what I wrote way earlier)

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(as I re-did it like an hour ago)

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(When I posted this)
#arma3_config message

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:00 PM

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The function name doesn't matter here, right? You're just going to call it using preInit?

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:00 PM

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I mean thats how I understood it

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its suppose to do just what any usual

initPlayerLocal.sqf
onPlayerKilled.sqf
onPlayerRespawn.sqf
in the mission folder would

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and function like that but, mod

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so yeah, somewhat straightforward

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I heard preinit being needed, and probobly just that

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I am not myself confident but its the clue im going on

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:05 PM

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class CfgFunctions
{
    class HAMS_Spawn    // tag, will be added to function name
    {
        class myfunctions  // name here doesn't matter
        {
            class SaveLoadout {
                file = "HAMS_Loadout_Saver\functions\fnc_saveLoadout.sqf";
                postInit = 1;
            };
        };
    };
};

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I'm not sure postInit is late enough though, because you need player to exist.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:05 PM

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thanks for writing where name doesent matter becouse that always throws me off otherwise

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:05 PM

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Function probably needs a check.

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function name there would be HAMS_Spawn_fnc_SaveLoadout

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:06 PM

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alright

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:07 PM

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cunning reef Isnt there just one?

Should I like, rename this file to that or. What am i suppose to do with that fact?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:07 PM

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no, it builds the function name from the data in CfgFunctions.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:08 PM

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okay

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:08 PM

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TAG_fnc_CLASSNAME

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:08 PM

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any other changes I should do to all this?

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Currently its

config.cpp

class CfgPatches
{
    class HAMS_Spawn
    {
        author=    "Hamsch";
        name="Hamsch's Loadout Saver";
        weapons[]={};
        magazines[]={};
        ammo[]={};
        units[]={};
        requiredVersion=0.1;
        requiredAddons[]={};
    };
};

class CfgFunctions
{
    class HAMS_Spawn    // tag, will be added to function name
    {
        class myfunctions  // name here doesn't matter
        {
            class SaveLoadout 
            {
                file = "HAMS_Loadout_Saver\functions\fnc_saveLoadout.sqf";
                postInit = 1;
            };
        };
    };
};

fnc_SaveLoadout.sqf

HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerRespawn = player addEventHandler ["Respawn", {
    params ["_newObject", "_oldObject"];

    deleteVehicle _oldObject;

    player switchMove "UnconsciousFaceDown";
    player playMove "UnconsciousOutProne";

    player setUnitLoadout (player getVariable ["Saved_Loadout", (configFile >> "EmptyLoadout")]);

    private _loadout = getUnitLoadout player;
    private _radio = (_loadout select 9) select 2;
    if (_radio isEqualTo "") then {
        player addItem "TFAR_anprc152";
        player assignItem "TFAR_anprc152";
        hint "Radio Added";
    };
}];

HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerKilled = player addEventHandler ["Killed", {
    params ["_unit", "_killer", "_instigator", "_useEffects"];

    _unit setVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout", getUnitLoadout _unit];
}];```

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:09 PM

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Now if you wanted more than one function you'd ideally do something like this:

class CfgFunctions
{
    class HAMS_Spawn    // tag, will be added to function name
    {
        class myfunctions  // name here doesn't matter
        {
            file = "HAMS_Loadout_Saver\functions";
            class SaveLoadout { postInit = 1; };
            class OtherFunction1 {};
            class OtherFunction2 {};
        };
    };
};

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but then you need your function names to match, and start with fn_ not fnc_

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:10 PM

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is there any bad to it starting with fnc_ now? Should I change it?

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Also, when I build all of this, should I have all these checked?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:12 PM

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I wouldn't bother binarizing that.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:12 PM

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alright

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:12 PM

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cunning reef is there any bad to it starting with `fnc_` now? Should I change it?

I would strongly recommend starting with the second version personally.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:13 PM

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chilly tulip Now if you wanted more than one function you'd ideally do something like this: `...

Im guessing that more functions would only be required when I want the mod to do more things? or perhaps involve settings for it?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Well, also if you didn't want to put your entire codebase in one file.

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but as your current codebase is tiny it doesn't much matter.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:13 PM

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the most I would expand on this

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would be having 2 versions of the whole save loadout system and the option to change between them

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but that could honestly be done by having 2 mods

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as the other method is only needed when running PIR

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or if I would expand on the give radio mechanic but

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I dont think I need that. I will probobly mostly remove it anyway

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But

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anyway

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I will give this a try

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thanks for the help

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:26 PM

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chilly tulip but as your current codebase is tiny it doesn't much matter.

okay ive run into a few issues

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First of all, I spawn without anything.
Second of all, I dont seem to respawn with my stuff

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:28 PM

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You're not changing what players spawn with?

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:28 PM

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No

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It restores loadout on players that respawn

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form when they died

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But I place a normal character, and came back as naked

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(tested by hosting on lan with respawn on)

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Issue is probobly within this

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fnc_SaveLoadout.sqf

HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerRespawn = player addEventHandler ["Respawn", {
    params ["_newObject", "_oldObject"];

    deleteVehicle _oldObject;

    player switchMove "UnconsciousFaceDown";
    player playMove "UnconsciousOutProne";

    player setUnitLoadout (player getVariable ["Saved_Loadout", (configFile >> "EmptyLoadout")]);

    private _loadout = getUnitLoadout player;
    private _radio = (_loadout select 9) select 2;
    if (_radio isEqualTo "") then {
        player addItem "TFAR_anprc152";
        player assignItem "TFAR_anprc152";
        hint "Radio Added";
    };
}];

HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerKilled = player addEventHandler ["Killed", {
    params ["_unit", "_killer", "_instigator", "_useEffects"];

    _unit setVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout", getUnitLoadout _unit];
}];```

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Have you confirmed that your code is running?

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:31 PM

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here are the OG scripts
#arma3_scripting message

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Yeah, it did do the radio part correctly

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I should say the scripts themselves worked flawlessly

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should I try to just, directly call them or something?

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instead of condensing them into one thing

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:33 PM

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Saved_Loadout in the first EH, HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout in the second EH

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Out of scope for this channel anyway.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:33 PM

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ah

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right

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I guess I should ask there then

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:34 PM

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chilly tulip Saved_Loadout in the first EH, HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout in the second EH

First EH second EH?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:34 PM

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Read the code :/

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Your getVariable and setVariable are using different variable names.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:35 PM

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huh

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I guess the intial person who corrected it did it wrong then

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But could I replace one
fnc_SaveLoadout.sqf
with just using
initPlayerLocal.sqf
onPlayerKilled.sqf
onPlayerRespawn.sqf
?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:36 PM

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why

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:36 PM

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I guess I would need more functions

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:37 PM

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chilly tulip why

if it would work like those do seperately (as scripts), it would be more reliable

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:37 PM

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The only automatic execution options you have in CfgFunctions are preInit and postInit.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:37 PM

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hm

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so should I try to just

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correct the code instead?

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:37 PM

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If you want to trigger on killed or respawn then you have to use event handlers.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:38 PM

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ah yeah

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:38 PM

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uh yes, it's a trivial error?

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Stop making me type stuff and fix it.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:38 PM

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I'll try

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What does the EH mean?

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HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerRespawn

Instead of

HAMSCH_onPlayerRespawn

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:49 PM

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It doesn't. It's just a variable name.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:50 PM

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actually all this looks bunk, ima see why its so different

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 3:51 PM

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It's saving the EH handles in global vars so you could potentially remove them later.

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That's not the issue.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 3:51 PM

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right

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HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerKilled = player addEventHandler ["Killed", {
    
    
    params ["_unit", "_killer", "_instigator", "_useEffects"];
    player setVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout ",getUnitLoadout player];
}];


HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerRespawn = player addEventHandler ["Respawn", {
    
    
    
    player setUnitLoadout (player getVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout ",[]]);    
    
    params ["_newObject", "_oldObject"];
    deleteVehicle _oldObject;
    player switchMove "UnconsciousFaceDown";
    player playMove "UnconsciousOutProne";

    private _radio = (HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout select 9) select 2;
    if (_radio isEqualTo "") then 
    {
        hint "Radio not found";
    };
}];```

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Here is what I have now made. Hope it works

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 4:04 PM

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_loadout doesn't exist.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 4:04 PM

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ah right

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 4:05 PM

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Also when you're making a mod it's important to avoid namespace collisions, so HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout is a much better variable name.

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Otherwise any other mod that uses "Saved_Loadout" as a var name is gonna conflict.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 4:07 PM

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There, corrected

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hope that now works

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 4:09 PM

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sighs

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HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerKilled = player addEventHandler ["Killed", {
    
    
    params ["_unit", "_killer", "_instigator", "_useEffects"];
    player setVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout",getUnitLoadout player];
}];


HAMSCH_EH_onPlayerRespawn = player addEventHandler ["Respawn", {
   
    private _loadout = player getVariable ["HAMSCH_Saved_Loadout",[]];
    player setUnitLoadout _loadout;    
    
    params ["_newObject", "_oldObject"];
    deleteVehicle _oldObject;
    player switchMove "UnconsciousFaceDown";
    player playMove "UnconsciousOutProne";

    private _radio = (_loadout select 9) select 2;
    if (_radio isEqualTo "") then 
    {
        hint "Radio not found";
    };
}];

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 4:10 PM

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ahh

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 4:11 PM

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wait, extra spaces in there...

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Not entirely happy about using player everywhere rather than the EH parameters but it's probably correct.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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I do hope so

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it should be mostly player specific and I do hope it does that

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so one player wont get the saved loadout of another

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That wasnt a problem with the script so, hopefully thats not a problem here either

chilly tulip Sep 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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The issue's more that it's undocumented when player changes in the respawn case.

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I think at that point player is equal to _newObject but I'd need to test.

cunning reef Sep 30, 2023, 4:13 PM

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im testing

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or at least testing the mod I mean

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im curius if this mod will mess with like, pre-made missions in arma and stuff. I will have to test

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(stuff that didnt intend to use a save loadout system like the coop missions)

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Now it seems to work!

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keeps guns, ammo, all that

teal basin Sep 30, 2023, 4:50 PM

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still having questions on armor penetration:If I model a fire geometry with some thickness,how to set this thickness a good value to get a realistic results if that part armor is a composite armor?like T-80b,it have a 205mm composite armor,68°,which means it will have about 600mm LOS thickness,then I need have a model with 600mm thickness?

ashen chasm Sep 30, 2023, 4:55 PM

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wut

ashen chasm Sep 30, 2023, 5:28 PM

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my only point of reference on that is tank from A3 Samples pack. It splits the turret armor into a bunch of convex components that (i think) follow the desired armor thickness. And then there's another internal component that's supposed to take damage 🤷‍♂️

teal basin Sep 30, 2023, 5:29 PM

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ashen chasm wut

My mind not very clear,messed up something.
Let me explain what I thought
up front hull of T-80B have 205mm thickness and 68° slope.when a ke round impact armour horizontally,about 600mm thickness will used to penetration detection.This is what will happened when using "armour.ravmat" and have a exact thickness model fire geometry.
what if this part armour is composite in reality?It should have more thickness than 600mm to be used for penetration detection when in the game

ashen chasm Sep 30, 2023, 5:30 PM

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screenshot with the roof removed. Selected (green with orange outline) is the damage-taking component. Multicolored mess outside are the armor components that need to be penetrated before the projectile can reach the damageable thing.

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if you need to provide more protection than your geometry thickness allows - i'd assume you'd need to use either .bisurf with lower bulletPenetrability in the assigned rvmat. 🤷‍♂️

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or indulge in some CfgArmorSimulations shenanigans to further lower the projectile speed after it exits the armor component, i'm not totally sure how that works

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maybe you'll understand https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Damage_Enhancement better than i can

teal basin Sep 30, 2023, 5:35 PM

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ashen chasm my only point of reference on that is tank from A3 Samples pack. It splits the t...

how do you set different colors to fire geometry's convex?It's distinct and helpful when edit fire geometry.

ashen chasm Sep 30, 2023, 5:36 PM

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teal basin Sep 30, 2023, 5:36 PM

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ashen chasm

thx

balmy atlas Sep 30, 2023, 7:12 PM

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opal crater We should be doing CBA update soon™️ it will support that EH for XEH

Life savers 😄

gusty timber Sep 30, 2023, 7:42 PM

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Hey guys, does anyone know how to increase the togglable range inside the SENS page through the config file? I've setup my aircraft to have a active radar range of 16km but the SENS page only allows me to select 2km and 4 km.

spark zinc Sep 30, 2023, 7:42 PM

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Howdy folks! I need some help adding ordnance to aircraft. Specifically I want to learn how to change what missiles are available to load on an aircraft, current issue being that I would like to load the FIRAWS brimstone onto aircraft other than the tornado. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've got the names of the weaponry I need to add, just no clue on how to add them onto diff aircraft

gusty timber Sep 30, 2023, 7:42 PM

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gusty timber Hey guys, does anyone know how to increase the togglable range inside the SENS p...

narrow swallow Sep 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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gusty timber Hey guys, does anyone know how to increase the togglable range inside the SENS p...

range[] property https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Custom_Info

Arma 3: Custom Info

gusty timber Sep 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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narrow swallow `range[]` property https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Custom_Info

Just what I needed, thank you!

narrow swallow Sep 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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spark zinc Howdy folks! I need some help adding ordnance to aircraft. Specifically I want t...

You need to change the hardpoints[] property in either the magazine or the vehicle https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Vehicle_Loadouts#Arma_3_hardpoint_naming_example

Arma 3: Vehicle Loadouts

deep roost Oct 1, 2023, 3:07 AM

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identityTypes[] = {"LanguageCZ","Head_Euro"};
anyone know what the name is for the polish heads from contact?

wheat sluice Oct 1, 2023, 3:23 AM

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Head_Enoch

deep roost Oct 1, 2023, 3:25 AM

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thx

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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could anyone help me figure out how to add/create a new high capacity magazine config for a weapon using a base game mag as the base for it but just changing the capacity and making it compatible for a certain weapon or weapon mod in the config.bin ?

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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CfgMagazines and probably CfgMagazineWells are the things you need to tweak

fervent glacier Oct 1, 2023, 10:52 AM

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Hello, i'm trying to make a campfire that can't be turned off.
But it seems there is no UserActions class in Campfire_burning_F or its parents.
Does it mean that the actions to turn on / off the fire are added by the engine and there is no way to change that ?
I tried to change the line : simulation="fire" by something else , it removes the action , but the fire doesn't work :/

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 10:53 AM

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wintry tartan CfgMagazines and probably CfgMagazineWells are the things you need to tweak

right i tried to do that but it didn't seem to work. still only show the regular mags.

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tried the cfg magazines and the magwells

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i probably did it wrong im sure but there isnt a very specific guide on how to really do it

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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We can't provide any insights without knowing your config

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 10:57 AM

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okay this is the part i edited, i added a 30rnd mag based off the BI one. but it wont show up in the selection. what am i doing wrong ? this exceprt isnt the full config, but just the part i edited, and this one i did not do the magwells thing because i couldnt rebin it.

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or i could just send the whole config file

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 10:58 AM

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If you can yes. This is a horrible formatting to read

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 10:59 AM

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yeah sorry

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 10:59 AM

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fervent glacier Hello, i'm trying to make a campfire that can't be turned off. But it seems the...

Actually it is really Engine-driven action and probably there is no way around than making effects on your own

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:01 AM

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for some reason it wont let me upload the config to this channel

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:02 AM

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You both need to accept the #rules and verify in #offtopic_bot_cmds

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AFAIK it should allow you to upload a file

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:03 AM

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📎 config.cpp

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:04 AM

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This is definitely not the proper way to mod a thing

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:05 AM

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well i didn't make it. i just edited it. and all i wanted to do was make the glocks have the ability to have full auto and some high capacity mags.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:05 AM

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Redefining the same thing same parameter is definitely not recommended way
You can just define what you just want to redefine/edit

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Editing an existed config is also not a proper way to Mod

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:06 AM

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well i don't know how to do that.

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i got it to work with the full auto like i wanted to, but i cant get the mags to work.

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and i promise i have looked on google and the arma/bis wikis on how to try to do it but its not very clear for me.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:08 AM

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First off, let's make a very simple config.```cpp
class CfgPatches
{
class DOOM_YourTestMod
{
requiredversion=0.1;
units[]={};
weapons[]={};
requiredAddons[]=
{
"A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder"
};
};
};

class CfgVehicles
{
class arifle_MX_Base_F
class arifle_MX_F: arifle_MX_Base_F
{
displayName = "This MX has modded name";
};
};```

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:08 AM

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not much on google and the wikis im not very sure about.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:09 AM

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wintry tartan First off, let's make a very simple config.```cpp class CfgPatches { class D...

This config will overwrite the vanilla MX's name into what I wrote. This does not edit anything else

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:10 AM

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if there is a good tutorial on how to do this that you know of and can link me to i would greatly appreciate it, i dont expect you to have to do it all in this channel or chat. if you dont feel like it

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or you can dm me if you rather.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:10 AM

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Having “I want to edit this!” into a config is the way to make a config, not the whole

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Class_Inheritance

Class Inheritance

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And no, I will not DM you only to answer this specific question

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:11 AM

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thats fine.

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so what should i do then ?

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:11 AM

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So, let's sort things - what exactly you need to have? List up changes you need to have

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:13 AM

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just want the glocksto be full auto (which i was able to do by editing even though thats not the proper way to do things) and i want to create/add additional high capacity magazines that are compatible with the glocks in that config.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:14 AM

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And is there any Mod that you based on?

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:14 AM

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yes the LTF pistols mod.

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thats where that config came from.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:15 AM

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I don't know which one it is

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:15 AM

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its private

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he left the modding community and isnt around anymore afaik

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it was on the steam workshop but its gone now.

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Hmm not sure how legit the LTF pistols mod you say is

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:18 AM

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IDK i havent seen them in any other game except tarkov and there are tarkov mods on the steam workshop so ?

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the models anyways

wintry tartan Oct 1, 2023, 11:18 AM

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Okay that is not legit

terse forum Oct 1, 2023, 11:19 AM

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so you wont help me cause its "not legit" ? im not putting it on the steam workshop and im only using it for my personal game. what difference does that make ? im not profitting from it ?

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i should've figured. oh well it was worth a shot.

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have a good day.

winter rain Oct 1, 2023, 2:04 PM

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fervent glacier Hello, i'm trying to make a campfire that can't be turned off. But it seems the...

not sure how it can work but i got 2 ideas in my mind, someone with more script experience could help out there

removeAction on that fire
fire has a eventhandler init "this inflame true", script needed if inflame false it has to make inflame true again, so you can turn it off but it doesnt turn off

wintry fox Oct 1, 2023, 4:30 PM

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terse forum so you wont help me cause its "not legit" ? im not putting it on the steam works...

You're still using ripped assets.

hearty sandal Oct 1, 2023, 5:42 PM

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terse forum so you wont help me cause its "not legit" ? im not putting it on the steam works...

because stealing is stealing and we dont support that shit here.

fast ruin Oct 1, 2023, 11:36 PM

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How do you make it so that modded assets appear in Zeus?

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Infantry, tanks, etc

nimble sequoia Oct 1, 2023, 11:39 PM

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fast ruin How do you make it so that modded assets appear in Zeus?

scopeCurator = 2;

fast ruin Oct 1, 2023, 11:40 PM

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nimble sequoia `scopeCurator = 2;`

And I just apply that to all the assets?

nimble sequoia Oct 1, 2023, 11:40 PM

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Yes

narrow swallow Oct 1, 2023, 11:44 PM

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May also be classnames not in CfgPatches units[] ?

nimble sequoia Oct 1, 2023, 11:44 PM

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narrow swallow May also be classnames not in CfgPatches units[] ?

Yes, could also be this, good call.

hearty sandal Oct 1, 2023, 11:49 PM

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needs both

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if I remember right

balmy atlas Oct 2, 2023, 12:49 AM

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narrow swallow May also be classnames not in CfgPatches units[] ?

Yes, this is required too.

wintry fox Oct 2, 2023, 4:00 AM

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hearty sandal if I remember right

It does

remote salmon Oct 2, 2023, 6:28 AM

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If anyone could help me it would be appreciated. I am trying to add in a modded pistol light. I have it in-game, it works, it attaches it to the handgun. I want it to emit the same light as the standard arma one however I can't seem to find were arma defines the standard light settings.

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https://i.imgur.com/y4LTBYI.png https://i.imgur.com/z18NpY3.png

Imgur

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The light on the left is standard Arma and the light on the right is mine. Here is the current config I have.

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https://gyazo.com/8a3442803085ca49ef8b2cbdd99d1340

Gyazo

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.

wintry tartan Oct 2, 2023, 6:33 AM

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Do you want to have the same light settings with vanilla acc_flashlight you mean?

remote salmon Oct 2, 2023, 7:03 AM

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wintry tartan Do you want to have the same light settings with vanilla *acc_flashlight* you me...

Correct, I just want the different model for cosmetics but it has the exact same settings as the regular light so there is no advantage over using one or the other.

wintry tartan Oct 2, 2023, 7:03 AM

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Then you don't need to redefine class ItemInfo {...};

remote salmon Oct 2, 2023, 7:11 AM

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wintry tartan Then you don't need to redefine `class ItemInfo {...};`

I feel so dumb, thank you. Earlier I orginally just got rid of class flashlight and it broke it... Didn't think to remove it all..

tawdry coral Oct 2, 2023, 11:34 AM

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remote salmon https://gyazo.com/8a3442803085ca49ef8b2cbdd99d1340

For future referance, I dunno but maybe scale isnt right? But I dunno and you got it so x3

cursive cliff Oct 2, 2023, 1:09 PM

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The class EventHandlers inside cfgvehicles is only executed on the machine where the entity is getting created and it dosent retrigger when the entity changes locality , right ?

balmy atlas Oct 2, 2023, 4:06 PM

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IIRC, it's executed on all machines. You can use isServer condition to make it run only on server.

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someone correct me if wrong

opal crater Oct 2, 2023, 4:14 PM

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init runs everywhere during entity creation

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Greetinge. I'm making a mod for my community that will add supply crates to the 3den editor and Zeus, but we're in a spot of bother. I have CfgVehicles.hpp and config.cpp all done and complete and I get no errors if I pack it all into PBOs with PBOman3 but when my admin tries to pack it using AddonBuilder with A3 Tools, he gets an error after loading into the game saying that CFGPATCHES is not an array and the addon will not work. He says that everything he's tried points to config.cpp not being written correctly, but I grabbed the config.cpp from another working addon in the same mod and modified it to suit the new addon. I can post the config.cpp in a block of text if that'll help. TIA

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:21 PM

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If you're not binarizing then it won't check the config until you load the game.

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So yeah, post the config.cpp.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:23 PM

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chilly tulip So yeah, post the config.cpp.


class CfgPatches {
  class ADDON {
    units[] = {"EVLT_Fireteam_US_crate", "EVLT_Fireteam_FAL_crate", "EVLT_Fireteam_SWAT_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_Stealth_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_Rangers_SCAR_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_PMC_ACR_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_GER_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_CZ_VZ58_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_CZ_BREN_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_ME_Guer_crate","EVLT_AR_MG36_crate","EVLT_AR_HK416_crate","EVLT_MMG_MG3_crate","EVLT_AR_RPK74_crate","EVLT_HAT_TOW_crate","EVLT_MAT_MAAWS_crate","EVLT_HAT_9M133_crate","EVLT_LAT_RPG7_crate","EVLT_HAT_FGM148_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_Russia_AK762_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_FinlandArmy_AK103_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_FinlandSF_Mk16_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_TLA_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_AK74_std_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_AK74_ep_crate","EVLT_MMG_CZ_M84_crate","EVLT_RAT_RPG75_crate","EVLT_RAT_M136_crate","EVLT_MMG_PK_RU_crate","EVLT_MMG_M240_M60_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_M14_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_M16_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_M16A2_crate","EVLT_Explosives_crate","EVLT_Medical_crate","EVLT_RAT_M72A6_crate","EVLT_RAT_M72A7_crate","EVLT_AAM_Igla_crate","EVLT_AAM_Stinger_crate","EVLT_HAT_MetisM_crate","EVLT_AR_RPK762_crate"};
    weapons[] = {};
    requiredVersion = 1.0;
    requiredAddons[] = {"evlt_main","evlt_medical","A3_Supplies_F_Exp"};
    author[] = {"Ferdilanz"};
    authorUrl = "";
  };
};

#include "CfgEditorCategories.hpp"
#include "CfgVehicles.hpp"```

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Hmm. Does look fine. Must be something up with one of the includes.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:25 PM

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My admin says when he removes the include for script_component the error goes away but the crates do not appear anymore

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:26 PM

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well, ADDON won't be defined then.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:27 PM

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yeah, here's script_component

#include "\z\evlt\addons\main\script_mod.hpp"

// #define DEBUG_MODE_FULL
// #define DISABLE_COMPILE_CACHE
// #define CBA_DEBUG_SYNCHRONOUS
// #define ENABLE_PERFORMANCE_COUNTERS

#include "\z\evlt\addons\main\script_macros.hpp"

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Are you setting the PBO prefix correctly in addon builder?

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:29 PM

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I assume he is, it should be the same as in $PBOPREFIX$ correct? or will AddonBuilder automatically generate it when that field is filled?

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let me post that...

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$PBOPREFIX$ is something I created by hand, this is what i put in there
z\evlt\addons\crates

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:31 PM

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With addon builder you have to feed it the prefix manually. It doesn't read $PBOPREFIX$

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You can check the PBO prefix with PBO manager to make sure it's correct.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:32 PM

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he does fill out the field. but should he just put crates in that field or should he type out z\evlt\addons\crates ?

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just got my answer, then
he should be typing out z\evlt\addons\crates
Assuming he's done this, what else could it possibly be?

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Does the other one also have the correct prefix? That's the one that matters here.

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As script_component is referencing it.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:37 PM

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yep, it does

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:41 PM

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hmm, you're not editing config in something weird, are you

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Given that expecting your admin to pack it for you is a red flag :P

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:42 PM

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Notepad plusplus
he's the one who has control over the server, so he's got final say also considering i'm the resident modder and not an admin myself
he's... my manager

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:47 PM

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chilly tulip Given that expecting your admin to pack it for you is a red flag :P

also the theory being it should be packable by someone else without errors, right? like how an experiment in France should be replicable in the USA?

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Are you saying that it packs & runs fine for you?

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:48 PM

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chilly tulip Are you saying that it packs & runs fine for you?

yes, but without using addonbuilder. I pack using PBO Manager.

ebon pivot Oct 2, 2023, 8:50 PM

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if youre trying to copy the ace format you should use hemtt for building

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:51 PM

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ebon pivot if youre trying to copy the ace format you should use hemtt for building

what do you mean by "ace format" ? you mean like how the ace crates have a weird CfgVehicles format that doesn't work with any other packing method? because i've tried that lol

ebon pivot Oct 2, 2023, 8:51 PM

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what

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thats just macros

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the pboprefix is set up for hemtt

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:53 PM

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We use a similar prefix and I can build it fine with addon builder.

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The error's odd though. Not sure what's going on there.

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If you like you can send me the whole non-working mod and I'll figure it out.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 8:54 PM

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over this channel or by DM?

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 8:54 PM

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DM unless someone else wants it too.

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I dunno if you'd have file paste permissions in this channel.

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Oh, this has an ACE dependency?

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 9:01 PM

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Yessir!

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 9:01 PM

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You should put that in the required addons then :P

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 9:02 PM

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eh, the players will already have ACE loaded. but is that such a required thing that the mod will not work without it being required in the configs?

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 9:03 PM

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Yes. It's trying to include ACE's script_macros somewhere.

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which feels like it might be a bug to start with :P

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Ok the error I get with ACE loaded is actually:
Include file z\evlt\addons\crates\CfgEventHandlers.hpp not found.

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Which seems reasonable given that it's not in there.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 9:04 PM

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yeah, we decided it could be deleted

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 9:04 PM

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You were wrong :P

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 9:05 PM

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forgot to remove it from the configgywiggy

chilly tulip Oct 2, 2023, 9:06 PM

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huh, can't see where it's being included.

lofty thistle Oct 2, 2023, 9:07 PM

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if it isn't in the config.cpp in the folders, try looking in the pbo itself

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may have forgotten to repack the pbo after deleting that include

wintry fox Oct 3, 2023, 2:56 AM

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Uniform protection values are set up in the unit set with uniformClass correct?
Been a bit since I've set up uniform protection

fast ruin Oct 3, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Okay so I've got a modded uniform all set up, however when I spawn it in on an AI a player can't put on the uniform that the AI is wearing, it's a very minor and not at all important bug but I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this. (Both the uniform in CfgWeapons and CfgVehicles have the same uniformClass name so that shouldn't be the issue.)

nimble sequoia Oct 3, 2023, 2:40 PM

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fast ruin Okay so I've got a modded uniform all set up, however when I spawn it in on an A...

Don't know much about uniforms, but aren't they side specific to prevent the wrong side from picking up and wearing the uniform? Could it be that?

fast ruin Oct 3, 2023, 2:43 PM

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No I don’t believe so though I could definitely check my code.

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It’s weird cause the uniforms are for blufor and my blufor player couldn’t pick it up but there might be a bit of an issue in the code

wintry fox Oct 3, 2023, 3:55 PM

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fast ruin It’s weird cause the uniforms are for blufor and my blufor player couldn’t pick ...

Open your uniform in the config viewer and check the modelSides of it

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A blufor uniform should be modelSides[] = {1};

bright leaf Oct 3, 2023, 4:48 PM

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Not sure if this is the proper place but im trying to use the BIS_fnc_exportEditorPreviews function but having some issues. Some of the pictures save and others don't. Has that happened to anyone before? How can i fix it?

ashen chasm Oct 3, 2023, 4:49 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_exportEditorPreviews

The file is saved into Screenshots folder in the Profile directory. The folder is by default limited to 250 MB to prevent abuse.
To increase the limit, add the following line at the end of the profile file:
may be related to this

bright leaf Oct 3, 2023, 4:55 PM

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i will try that but the screenshots folder is only 150mb atm

bright leaf Oct 3, 2023, 4:59 PM

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ashen chasm <https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_exportEditorPreviews> > The file is...

that worked, thanks!

wintry fox Oct 4, 2023, 1:57 AM

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wintry fox A blufor uniform should be `modelSides[] = {1};`

Why meowsweats ?

fast ruin Oct 4, 2023, 2:19 AM

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One more question. Can I add scopes and other attachments to AI compositions and if so how?

wintry fox Oct 4, 2023, 2:25 AM

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You can do it by making a separate version of a weapon and adding a LinkedItemsclass

wintry fox Oct 4, 2023, 2:28 AM

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fast ruin One more question. Can I add scopes and other attachments to AI compositions and...

Can't seem to find a wiki page for it, although I didn't look very hard. Something just like this should be a good enough example though.

class YourGun_Scoped: YourGun
{
    // Typically don't want extra versions of your gun showing
    scope = 1;
    scopeArsenal = 0;
    class LinkedItems
    {
        class LinkedItemsOptic
        {
            slot = "CowsSlot";
            item = "ScopeClass";
        };
    };
};

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Something to note is that if you use ace, the ace arsenal will intentionally ignore the attachments in your LinkedItems.

fast ruin Oct 4, 2023, 2:35 AM

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Thank you

deep roost Oct 4, 2023, 5:54 AM

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anybody have experience with making config using rhs mod that can explain why this doesnt work?
the offending code:
class rhs_weap_aks74n_npz_acog : rhs_weap_aks74n_npz { class LinkedItems { class LinkedItemsOptic { slot = "CowsSlot"; item = "rhsusf_acc_ACOG"; }; }; };

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correct me if im wrong but the second line is the base class right?

wintry tartan Oct 4, 2023, 6:14 AM

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Regardless it is ingame, you always need to define in your config

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And... why CfgVehicles? A weapon is defined in CfgWeapons

deep roost Oct 4, 2023, 7:51 AM

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tru

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k should be simple enough now, thx

ebon pivot Oct 4, 2023, 1:01 PM

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will description.ext overwrite stuff in the main configfile

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i.e
configFile >> "CfgKJWCapitalShips" >> "Submarine"
would i be able to use description.ext to edit submarine/add new classes to cfgkjwcapitalships or will i need some more script crap

ashen chasm Oct 4, 2023, 1:03 PM

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no, desc.ext is available via missionConfigFile root

ebon pivot Oct 4, 2023, 1:04 PM

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guh

ashen chasm Oct 4, 2023, 1:04 PM

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or even campaignConfigFile if you get that far

ebon pivot Oct 4, 2023, 1:04 PM

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ill have to make some sort of findordefault thing wont i

ashen chasm Oct 4, 2023, 1:04 PM

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and decide on order of precedence, overrides and so on

ebon pivot Oct 4, 2023, 1:05 PM

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the real question is can i be bothered

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(no i cant)

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i still need to rewrite this so i can use filepatching

celest badger Oct 4, 2023, 2:35 PM

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Could someone provides me an example for a working configuration using scopeArsenal=0?

It doesn't seem to work for me. 🙄

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 2:48 PM

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celest badger Could someone provides me an example for a working configuration using *scopeArs...

does not work how?

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or how do you expect it to work?

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and what exactly do you try to do?

celest badger Oct 4, 2023, 3:20 PM

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hearty sandal and what exactly do you try to do?

hiding new items from arsenal, so they don't show up.

balmy atlas Oct 4, 2023, 4:22 PM

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can we see config class and params?

celest badger Oct 4, 2023, 4:28 PM

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balmy atlas can we see config class and params?

📎 CfgVehicles.hpp 📎 CfgWeapons.hpp 📎 config.cpp 📎 script_component.hpp

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 4:29 PM

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celest badger hiding new items from arsenal, so they don't show up.

is this in normal arsenal or ACE arsenal?

celest badger Oct 4, 2023, 4:30 PM

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hearty sandal is this in normal arsenal or ACE arsenal?

both

balmy atlas Oct 4, 2023, 4:30 PM

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oh well, you should put scopeArsenal in CfgWeapons?

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cfgVehicles is for ground holders

celest badger Oct 4, 2023, 4:31 PM

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balmy atlas cfgVehicles is for ground holders

I think I did before removing. Will try again.

balmy atlas Oct 4, 2023, 4:31 PM

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you can always use scope=1; as well, it will still work on ground holders

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but wont be visible in arsenal (and 3den inventory attribute)

celest badger Oct 4, 2023, 4:33 PM

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I just want to hide from Arsenal 1/3 and 2/3 water bottles. They don't make sense being visible there. So, 3Eden will not be a problem.

balmy atlas Oct 4, 2023, 4:33 PM

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in this case scope=1; is the way to go

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i do the same for female balaclavas. they're assigned via function but not visible anywhere else.

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it will perform normally ingame as long as you have a way of spawning them

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Does anyone know why RHS uniforms don't like to stay on units produced by drongo's config editor?

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The uniform class appears to be defined correctly so I'm not sure why it does this

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class MSFI_AA_Specialist: C_Man_casual_1_F_afro
  {
    faction="MSFI_First_International";
    side=2;
    displayName="AA Specialist";
    uniformClass="rhs_uniform_emr_patchless";
...
};

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Everything else works fine, the backpacks, weapons, etc.

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but the uniforms just don't work, it defaults back to the base unit's clothing

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:17 PM

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Is this caused by randomization of C_Man_casual_1_F_afro?

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Or is it that the clothing is faction restricted?

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:25 PM

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could be either or both

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:36 PM

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hearty sandal could be either or both

I'm teting for the clothing being faction restricted first by using foceAddUniform in the init (yes I preserved the initial eventhandlers)

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if the forceadduniform works, I'll try disablerandomization next

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forceaddonuniform doesn't work, unfortunate

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Hm... So, neither disabling randomization nor utilizing forceAddUniform worked

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class MSFI_AA_Specialist: C_Man_casual_1_F_afro
  {
    class EventHandlers: EventHandlers{
      init = "_this forceAddUniform "rhs_uniform_emr_patchless"; ";
    };```

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:43 PM

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try force add a civilian uniform

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:44 PM

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hearty sandal try force add a civilian uniform

any civ uniform?

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:44 PM

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yeah

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since the base character seems to be civilian

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why you use it as base I dont quite undrstand though

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since you are changing the uniform

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:45 PM

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hearty sandal why you use it as base I dont quite undrstand though

Because I'm not 100% on how to define character traits such as heads and voices from a randomized pool

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plus I'm using drongo's config generator

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:45 PM

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I dont quite remember how that worked

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but it might not be suitable for what you are making blobdoggoshruggoogly

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:46 PM

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class MSFI_AA_Specialist: C_Man_casual_1_F_afro
  {
    class EventHandlers: EventHandlers{
      init = "_this forceAddUniform "U_C_Poloshirt_Blue"; ";
    };```

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Running this

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:46 PM

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        identityTypes[]=
        {
            "Head_African",
            "G_CIVIL_male"
        };```

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this should get you african head

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:46 PM

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I want it to randomize is the thing

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:47 PM

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that will randomize african heads

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:47 PM

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hearty sandal that will randomize african heads

oh! Interesting

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I'll take a look over those

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:47 PM

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its straight from that man_casuals config you use

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paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:48 PM

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hearty sandal try force add a civilian uniform

This didn't work

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I'm wondering if I just change the side of the faction. hold on, hypothesis test. I'm going to change the side of the entire faction, and if it works then I know it's because of the faction side

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MY STUPID-

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Hold on, I haven't been exporting these as pbos so nothing I've done registered

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I am so tired

hearty sandal Oct 4, 2023, 11:54 PM

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We do recommend modding after sleep

wintry tartan Oct 4, 2023, 11:55 PM

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Or sleep after modding

paper flume Oct 4, 2023, 11:56 PM

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wintry tartan Or sleep after modding

this

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I like this

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class MSFI_AA_Specialist: C_Man_casual_1_F_afro
  {
    class EventHandlers: EventHandlers{
      init = "_this forceAddUniform "rhs_uniform_emr_patchless"; ";
    };

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Do I have too many quotations?

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or should it be formatted init = "[_this#0, 'rhs_uniform_emr_patchless'] call forceAddUniform;";

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 12:00 AM

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You cannot use " within "

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So yes, you need to have it '

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:00 AM

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gotcha, I'll try the new formatting

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New formatting passed the launch, but did not successfully change the uniform

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 12:04 AM

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_this is an array _this#0 is the unit I guess?

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I highly recommend to use a class within class EventHandlers so nobody would overwrite the EH tho

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Also, better to stop using pboManager

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:06 AM

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Yeah, looks like I may start using _this#0

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:06 AM

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wintry tartan Also, better to stop using pboManager

I use EliteNess, not PBOmanager

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 12:07 AM

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Eliteness is not a proper pack software either, if you can handle Mikero's Tools you better to use pboProject

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So it can detect such “easy” errors even before you pack

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:09 AM

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wintry tartan Eliteness is not a proper pack software either, if you can handle Mikero's Tools...

The thing is I'm using windows and I do modding as like, a hobby? I'm not looking to make a partition and a dedicated modding drive, unless it has an installer I'm not 100% sure I want to use it

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 12:10 AM

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You don't really need to have a dedicated hard drive but a part of your current drives

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:10 AM

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https://brettmayson.github.io/HEMTT/

Introduction - The HEMTT Book

Everything you need to build Arma 3 mods with HEMTT

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 12:11 AM

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I always forget that thing 😅

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:11 AM

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if you're doing mostly configs I recommend to switch to HEMTT

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it's way more modern in it's design and its projects are portable.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:11 AM

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I tried HEMTT, I am watching it. I know they're coming out with an installer soon and when the installer comes out I'll def use it

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:11 AM

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won't happen soon.

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it's literally a single binary you can add to the PATH and be done with it.

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or if you're on a W11 or have winget installed on W10 you can run:
winget install BrettMayson.HEMTT in the cmd (yes windows has package manger these days)

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:13 AM

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opal crater or if you're on a W11 or have winget installed on W10 you can run: `winget insta...

Tried that one, running windows 11, it didn't work

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I did try to run HEMTT, I just couldn't get it working, most likely due to my lack of technical know how

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:13 AM

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it's one of the simplest way to get arma mods going.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:14 AM

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So, I got the command to change the uniform after the launch and such but it sadly does not keep the items which were supposed to be stored in the uniform of the unit stored there.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:15 AM

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opal crater it's one of the simplest way to get arma mods going.

I understand that, but that doesn't really help me since I personally can't get it to work. Unless you want to sit down and walk me through how to install it, which a friend of mine who uses it on the ACE team tried to do and couldn't, I don't think that I can get it working

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:15 AM

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I doubt anyone on ACE team was unable to get it working.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:16 AM

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She was able to get it working on her pc, but was unable to teach me how to get it working on my pc. It is not her fault, it is entirely my own ineptitude

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I am not blaming her for it not working, I am saying I am not skilled enough to get it working even with her help

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I spent several days trying to install it and couldn't.

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So the proposition of using HEMTT isn't something that I'm opposed to, it's just that I literally already tried and have found that I am unable to due to my lack of technical knowledge

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:19 AM

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I've linked you the project documentation above.

latest stable release can be found here:
https://github.com/BrettMayson/HEMTT/releases/latest

here's useful mod template:
https://github.com/TACHarsis/hemtt-mod-template

if executing single binary from command-line is too much then idk shruge
(the mod template even has bat files that can be double-clicked)

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:20 AM

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opal crater I've linked you the project documentation above. latest stable release can be f...

Yeah like, I've already followed these documents, I was having a hard time with it. That's what I was trying to express

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:21 AM

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Then maybe you're not persistent enough, if you have troubles with such simple things moding will be also painful.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:21 AM

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I'm not asking you to teach me how to set up HEMTT, I'm totally cool with the way my workflow is now, especially because I'm only making mods for me and my friends to dick around with as opposed to a large community project.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:22 AM

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opal crater Then maybe you're not persistent enough, if you have troubles with such simple t...

I've been doing it for years, I mean, like, occasionally I'll get stuck like now, and yeah it is admittedly painful sometimes, but it makes me happy and I get to have fun with my friends so I don't really mind

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Ah, so, I 100% Isolated the problem. The RHS clothing I'm looking to use is side locked. I did see that it's possible to assign units multiple sides, does anyone know if there's a way to do this in this instance?

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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We should probably make a HEMTT build option for Antistasi given that none of the ones we have in our wiki work reliably :P

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:26 AM

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paper flume Ah, so, I 100% Isolated the problem. The RHS clothing I'm looking to use is side...

see https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/tree/master/optionals/nouniformrestrictions

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:27 AM

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opal crater see <https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/tree/master/optionals/nouniformrestrictions>

So this is a module in the ace mod, gotcha, um, it removes side restrictions from Vanilla uniforms, but the uniforms I'm looking to use are RHS

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:27 AM

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That one only handles vanilla uniforms but it's an example.

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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paper flume So this is a module in the ace mod, gotcha, um, it removes side restrictions fro...

you're in config makers, so I'm assuming you're asking how to do it.

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so I'm providing you with an example.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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chilly tulip That one only handles vanilla uniforms but it's an example.

ohhh it's an example, gotcha, so it would be modelSides [] = {6};

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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opal crater so I'm providing you with an example.

I misunderstood, sorry about that

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Thank you so much

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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consider reading into what you're sent more and writing less.

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:29 AM

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Note that it's set on the linked unit of the uniform, not the uniform itself.

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On the plus side there are fewer of those.

opal crater Oct 5, 2023, 12:30 AM

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there's a function in the ace mod to generate the configs for you.
https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/optionals/nouniformrestrictions/functions/fnc_exportConfig.sqf

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:40 AM

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opal crater there's a function in the ace mod to generate the configs for you. <https://gith...

I've read the files, I think, and if I'm understanding this right, i would run my config through the fnc_exportConfig.sqf? I'm not 100% sure where I would run [] call ace_nouniformrestrictons_exportConfig

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:41 AM

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Debug console.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:42 AM

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and I would put the file path to the .pbo in the brackets, right?

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:42 AM

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no

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Load ACE no uniform restrictions along with the uniform mods you want to extract from, then run that function as written. It should dump something into the clipboard.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:43 AM

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chilly tulip Load ACE no uniform restrictions along with the uniform mods you want to extract...

Gotcha, gotcha, let me download it

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(tfw I forgor I already have ace3 so I can just copy it from there into the directory of the mod)

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:48 AM

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chilly tulip Load ACE no uniform restrictions along with the uniform mods you want to extract...

Right, I have what it dumped into my clipboard. do I add this to my config under CfgVehicles like the example?

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:50 AM

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Probably :P

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I haven't seen what it outputs. Hard to say because macro shit.

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:51 AM

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class CfgVehicles {
    class SoldierGB;
    class SoldierWB;
    class rhsusf_socom_mc_uniform;

    class rhs_infantry_msv_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhs_infantry_vdv_base: rhs_infantry_msv_base {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhs_infantry_vdv_des_base: rhs_infantry_vdv_base {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhs_mvd_izlom_rifleman: rhs_infantry_vdv_base {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsusf_socom_uniform_base: SoldierWB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsusf_infantry_army_base: SoldierWB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsusf_infantry_socom_armysf_base: rhsusf_socom_mc_uniform {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhs_g_uniform1_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_cdf_ngd_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_cdf_reg_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_cdf_para_base: rhsgref_cdf_reg_base {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_nat_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_ins_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_hidf_base: SoldierWB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
    class rhsgref_tla_base: SoldierGB {
        modelSides[] = {6};
    };
};```

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 12:51 AM

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looks good

paper flume Oct 5, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Yup, it worked

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thank you so much

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@opal crater I know things got tense but I do genuinely appreciate the help, it worked. Tysm!

rain scarab Oct 5, 2023, 3:52 AM

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Hello! Fun question ahead: So I've got some buildings that inherit from House_f and DestructionEffects from within House_f. In my cfgPatches, I am including a3_structures_f as a required addon.

In cfgVehicles, I am setting up the inheritance for House_f and DestructionEffects like this:

    {
        class DestructionEffects;
    };

After compile, I am seeing this in the RPT:
Updating base class House->HouseBase, by VTF\vtf_korsac_structures\config.bin/CfgVehicles/House_f/ (original (a3\structures_f\config.bin - no unload))

Is this going to be a problem? I have always inherited this way, but am looking to do this cleaner, if it can at all be done without seemingly overwriting House_f's contents. If I remove a3_structures_f from requiredAddons, pboproject no longer compiles with this error:
config.cpp uses external classes but has no RequiredAddons to say where they are.

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 3:59 AM

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You need the parent class for House_F
You ALWAYS need requiredAddons

rain scarab Oct 5, 2023, 4:00 AM

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Got it, so:

    class House;
    class House_F: House
    {
        class DestructionEffects;
    };

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:00 AM

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you missed the inheritance.

rain scarab Oct 5, 2023, 4:02 AM

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Oh, god yeah. Sorry, sleepy. I copied it from the a3 sample now lol

chrome elm Oct 5, 2023, 5:41 AM

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I'm brand new to modding stuff. I've made a retexture for a WH40k Space Marine vehicle but I want to be able to mount into it with vanilla skeletons. Does anyone know where I can start looking for solutions as I can't seem to find any tutorials or forums that discuss skeleton configs?

wintry tartan Oct 5, 2023, 5:48 AM

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There's no way

hearty sandal Oct 5, 2023, 9:54 AM

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I think it should work as long as all different sized animation sets have same named action

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The action would the correspond with suitable animation

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That fits the character

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:00 PM

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Big question, but does anyone here have a bit of time in the near future to help me get a config working? it's a gear mod that refrences another mod for the 3d model, but i can't figure out how to both refrence the base model and change the armour values. I've asked several other people for help on this before, but no one could figure it out.

Big ask, but it would be amazing if someone was willing to go through it with me

hearty sandal Oct 5, 2023, 4:02 PM

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teal mirage Big question, but does anyone here have a bit of time in the near future to help...

you can post what you got here (in code formatting or if its big config in pastebin/sqfbin and link here)

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people usually answer if they got answers to give

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:08 PM

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fair enough, well so this is the config that worked, but i coudn't adjust armour values:

   { 
       class ItemInfo; 
   }; 

   class CW_Test_armour : SC_MDF_Heavy_White 
   { 
       scope = 2; 
       displayName = "CW test armour"; 
       picture = "-"; 
       hiddenSelections[] = {"Camo"}; 
       hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\armour_Tester\Data\TestChest2.paa","\armour_Tester\Data\LegsTest2.paa"}; 
       class ItemInfo: VestItem 
       {
           containerClass = "Supply120"; 
           mass = 80; 
           armor = "5"; 
           passThrough = 0.3; 
           hiddenSelections[] = {"camo"}; 
       }; 
   };
   class CW_Armour_White : SC_MDF_Heavy_White 
   { 
       scope = 2; 
       displayName = "CW Armour white"; 
       picture = "-"; 
       hiddenSelections[] = {"Camo"}; 
       hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\armour_Tester\Data\CW_Chest.paa","\armour_Tester\Data\CW_Legs_1.paaa"}; 
       class ItemInfo: VestItem 
       { 
           containerClass = "Supply120"; 
           mass = 80; 
           armor = "5"; 
           passThrough = 0.3; 
           hiddenSelections[] = {"camo"}; 
       }; 
   };

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^got this as a result

#

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but when i tried a more complicated version that includes changed armour values, the model didn't show up.

📎 config.txt

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:10 PM

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For what it's worth, this one is pretty hard :P

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Give me a few minutes.

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:14 PM

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it's supost to retexture an armour set from the scion conflict mod

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and it has to refrence their base model, as i'm not allowed to reupload any of their models ofc

hearty sandal Oct 5, 2023, 4:16 PM

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are the armor parts all vests/gear and not uniforms?

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:16 PM

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it's a vest yea

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in the pic, all the white armour except for the helmet is one vest

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:17 PM

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oh, you want to retexture, not change armour values?

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:17 PM

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no i want to change the texture and armour values

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i just have to refrence their base model for it wich has been giving me a headache for a month lol

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:20 PM

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Ok, I think this is the minimum config to create a vest with one different armour value:

class CfgWeapons {
    class VestItem;
    class ItemCore;
    class Vest_Camo_Base: ItemCore {
        class ItemInfo: VestItem {};
    };
    class V_TacVest_blk_POLICE: Vest_Camo_Base {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest;
            };
        };
    };
    class JJ_Vest_Test: V_TacVest_blk_POLICE {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo: HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest: Chest {
                    armor = 20;
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

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If you were working from a vest where the armour values are defined further down the tree then it's more complicated :P

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:21 PM

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hm, i see

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well i'll try to plug in the working config into that one and see if it works!

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:24 PM

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Vest_Camo_Base doesn't have much defined in HitpointsProtectionInfo so you could just override it from there. Just need the ItemInfo inheritance.

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And then H_HelmetB only has one hitpoint defined so I guess you can just respecify that too rather than dealing with the hitpoint inheritance.

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:26 PM

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    class VestItem;
    class ItemCore;
    class Vest_Camo_Base: ItemCore {
        class ItemInfo: VestItem {};
    };
    class SC_MDF_Torso_Base: Vest_Camo_Base {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest {};
            };
        };
    };
    class CW_Armour_White: SC_MDF_Torso_Base {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo: HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest: Chest {
                    armor = 5;
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

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would this work?

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or well, is it filled in properly at least?

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:28 PM

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Is the SC vest one of yours or from another mod?

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:28 PM

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it's the vest in the original scion conflict mod that i want to inherit the 3d model from

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:28 PM

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Does it inherit from Vest_Camo_Base?

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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umm, let me check

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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you dont need to do {};

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and class Chest {}; will cause addon builder to break usually

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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You do for inheritance.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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no you dont

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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yeah, the chest one is bad.

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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i'll just leave this here: ```
Vest class 1: abdomen/body/chest/diaphragm, armor 8, passtrhough 0.5
Vest class 2: abdomen/body/chest/diaphragm(/pelvis), armor 12, passtrhough 0.4
Vest class 3: abdomen/body/chest/diaphragm, armor 16, passtrhough 0.3
Vest class 4: abdomen/body/chest/diaphragm, armor 20, passtrhough 0.2
Vest class 5: abdomen/body/chest/diaphragm/arms/neck, armor 24, passthrough 0.1

Vest class ER:abdomen/body/chest/diaphragm/arms/neck/pelvis, armor 8/16/78, passthrough 0.5/0.3/0.6```

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 4:29 PM

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chilly tulip Does it inherit from Vest_Camo_Base?

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:30 PM

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walk it back up by one more than that to not do {};

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Class_Inheritance#:~:text=some vanilla configs.-,Empty,-The class Empty

The class Empty{}; syntax tells the engine that this class should not inherit from other classes. As a result, only non-inherited properties and classes in the class persist.
bad

Class Inheritance

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:30 PM

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This one is needed syntactically for some reason:
class ItemInfo: VestItem {};
This one breaks shit:
class Chest {};

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:31 PM

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class CfgWeapons {
    class VestItem;
    class ItemCore;
    class Vest_Camo_Base: ItemCore {
        class ItemInfo: VestItem {
             class HitPointsProtectionInfo;
        };
    };
    class V_TacVest_blk_POLICE: Vest_Camo_Base {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo: HitPointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest;
            };
        };
    };
    class JJ_Vest_Test: V_TacVest_blk_POLICE {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo: HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest: Chest {
                    armor = 20;
                };
            };
        };
    };
};``` better

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:31 PM

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Although curiously it worked here.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:32 PM

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the only regular use case for {}; that exists is turrets afaik

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not standard inheritance

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:33 PM

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The HitpointsProtectionInfo in V_TacVest_blk_POLICE doesn't inherit from Vest_Camo_Base though.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:33 PM

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then define it wherever it inherits from

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:33 PM

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It doesn't.

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That's why I didn't.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:34 PM

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then just give it a base class

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oh wait

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ok in this one instance {}; is usable

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as it wont inherit any properties

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for chest that is

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for iteminfo you can just do class ItemInfo;

#

no need for {}; there

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:36 PM

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The class ItemInfo: VestItem {};?

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:36 PM

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yes

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:36 PM

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yeah maybe.

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:37 PM

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🧠 start by getting the full tree with ADT. Check if it works. When it does work - don't fix what ain't broken.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:37 PM

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no parent class is probably why class Chest {}; works

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:37 PM

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ashen chasm 🧠 start by getting the full tree with ADT. Check if it works. When it does work...

or just learn inheritance and dont use adt's tree because that also breaks things with unnecessary {};

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oh wait no that looks fine now

#

somewhat

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you still need to know when you stop though

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:38 PM

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I start from ADT and simplify, missed a couple of bits thoguh.

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Still not sure why Chest {} worked. That should blank it.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:38 PM

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e.g here you dont need to inherit off headgearitem

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:39 PM

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chilly tulip Still not sure why Chest {} worked. That should blank it.

no parent class

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{}; only blanks inherited values

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:39 PM

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Ah, yeah.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:39 PM

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biki example makes it easiest to understand

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(surprisingly)

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(dont kill me lou)

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:39 PM

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"you don't need it" vs "shit be broken" are two different things, as always

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:40 PM

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no because if someone ends up doing ItemInfo: HeadgearItem {}; it will wipe anything iteminfo inherits from headgearitem

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which will most likely break things

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:42 PM

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it wouldn't if the load order is correct and inheritance isn't borked

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:42 PM

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yes it would thats literally what {}; does

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:42 PM

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The empty brackets have different meaning if you specify the inheritance.

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IIRC it doesn't even let you do ItemInfo: HeadgearItem;

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:43 PM

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no you dont need to define headgearitem at all

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:43 PM

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That's true but not the point.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:43 PM

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will still break things either way

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{}; is very rarely required and teaching it to be standard is a bad idea

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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because guess what? It removes the inheritance

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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exception not the rule

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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The empty brackets have different meaning if you specify the inheritance.

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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ebon pivot will still break things either way

the different meaning is this

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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class Jacob {}; = "screw whatever happened before, Jacob here inherits from nowhere"

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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It's pointless specifying the inheritance there but doesn't hurt.

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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class Jacob: Jacob {}; = "this Jacob is just like the Jacob above"

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:45 PM

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soulless empty jacob

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:45 PM

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You might need it for weird cases where you're modifying stuff at multiple levels.

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Although you can probably just skip the definition then.

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:46 PM

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as in: you need subclass of Jacob that isn't present in Isaac but is defined in Rebecca 🤷‍♂️

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but still need other changes to Jacob that are made in Isaac

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:46 PM

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Anyway, fully reduced example:

class CfgWeapons {
    class ItemCore;
    class Vest_Camo_Base: ItemCore {
        class ItemInfo;
    };
    class V_TacVest_blk_POLICE: Vest_Camo_Base {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest;
            };
        };
    };
    class JJ_Vest_Test: V_TacVest_blk_POLICE {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo: HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest: Chest {
                    armor = 20;
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:46 PM

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yeah, that's one convoluted mess

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:48 PM

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hee hee

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:48 PM

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and iirc all the vanilla vests do fully define their protection values if they ever do not like hpp class HitpointsProtectionInfo { class Chest { hitpointName="HitChest"; armor=12; passThrough=0.40000001; }; class Diaphragm { hitpointName="HitDiaphragm"; armor=12; passThrough=0.40000001; }; class Abdomen { hitpointName="HitAbdomen"; armor=12; passThrough=0.40000001; }; class Body { hitpointName="HitBody"; passThrough=0.40000001; }; }; would blow your config that much

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:48 PM

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Often easier to just rewrite the HitpointsProtectionInfo :P

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:48 PM

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macro it

ashen chasm Oct 5, 2023, 4:49 PM

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then forget about it, accidentally build your PBO with KJW's file tree somewhere in valid include paths and then be surprised when your vests suddenly have over nine thousand armor, glow in the dark and pollute everything with radiation and syphilis

ebon pivot Oct 5, 2023, 4:50 PM

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thats part of kjws medical expansion 😄

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 4:50 PM

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In that case it'd be:

class CfgWeapons {
    class Vest_Camo_Base;
    class V_TacVest_blk_POLICE: Vest_Camo_Base {
        class ItemInfo;
    };
    class JJ_Vest_Test: V_TacVest_blk_POLICE {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                // All hitpoints go here
            };
        };
    };
};

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 5:14 PM

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so... what now?

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 6:03 PM

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As above but replace V_TacVest_Blk_POLICE with SC_MDF_Torso_Base and JJ_Vest_Test with your classname, then fill in the hitpoints data.

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That SC_MDF_Torso_Base doesn't have much in it though, so it might not be worth inheriting.

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 6:06 PM

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i see

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so this

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also, where do i add the change of texture for this armour?

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this seems right

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 6:09 PM

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I don't know anything about textures personally.

teal mirage Oct 5, 2023, 6:09 PM

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fair enough

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i'll give it a test and report back 👍

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it's not showing up in the arsenal

chilly tulip Oct 5, 2023, 11:08 PM

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You'd need to set scope=2 for it to show up in the arsenal.

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Anything with "base" on the end of the name is probably scope 1.

vernal flame Oct 5, 2023, 11:47 PM

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So I'm trying to make a smoke grenade, that once it pops it activates a script. How would I go about adding such a function to the config?

hearty sandal Oct 5, 2023, 11:57 PM

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vernal flame So I'm trying to make a smoke grenade, that once it pops it activates a script. ...

Killed eventhandler

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 12:00 AM

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Grenades exploding triggers the killed EH?

vernal flame Oct 6, 2023, 12:32 AM

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hearty sandal Killed eventhandler

class EventHandlers: DefaultEventHandlers
        {
            killed="[_this select 0] call Dosiel_DS_FnC_fnc_PDropScythe;";
        };

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Would this be correct?

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I have a CfgFunctions set up for the sqf, only issue is getting it to trigger on the smoke

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 12:40 AM

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Depending on how you did your params [...] in your function, you could probably replace those brackets with parenthesis

tacit zealot Oct 6, 2023, 4:04 AM

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Is there a way to use the CombatModeChanged eventHandler within the EventHandlers class of a unit? The wiki says it's for groups only, so I'm not sure if I realistically could.
I really just need a good eventhandler that will fire off at helpful times so I can run some code that does things based off unit combat mode.

wintry tartan Oct 6, 2023, 4:05 AM

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Probably not. I think you can have a fnc to detect if a group has created and use it to add an EH

tacit zealot Oct 6, 2023, 4:10 AM

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I think I'll go for a simpler, but limited, approach, then.

tacit zealot Oct 6, 2023, 7:02 AM

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New venture: is there a way to disable placing things in the Uniform slot of a unit? Basically to make sure it always appears as the specified nakedUniform, even if player controlled.
Only relavent subclass I could find was related to binoculars, NVGs, scuba, and something else that wasn't it.

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 1:20 PM

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Could make like a Supply0 containerClass with no space

wintry tartan Oct 6, 2023, 1:23 PM

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configfile >> "CfgVehicles" >> "Supply0" exists. So yes

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 1:24 PM

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Wasn't sure if there was an already existing one

wheat sluice Oct 6, 2023, 1:38 PM

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Pretty sure brendo means locking the uniform slot completely so that you always appear "naked" (and therefore default to whatever underwear class you defined in the unit).

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 1:39 PM

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Ah yeah reread it
I guess just use an Event Handler for a unit's loadout changing and remove the uniform?

CBA has a player event handler for it

wintry tartan Oct 6, 2023, 1:40 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#SlotItemChanged

Arma 3: Event Handlers

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 1:42 PM

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Oh yeah I forgot that SlotItemChanged is finally in with 2.14

tacit zealot Oct 6, 2023, 4:05 PM

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wintry fox Could make like a Supply0 containerClass with no space

It is, but I want to prevent the unit fro putting on an alternative uniform
Kinda like how in Arma 2, women can't hold guns, man guns, or wear backpacks, etc.

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 4:09 PM

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🤨 Never played it, but that seems like a weird thing to have

tacit zealot Oct 6, 2023, 4:23 PM

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Sexism

wheat sluice Oct 6, 2023, 4:24 PM

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Well, the way that was handled back in the day was with weaponSlots but I don't think it accepts the new slot types used in A3.

tacit zealot Oct 6, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Should be the last of my questions - is there a way to make entities emit ambient light? I'm currently only using the emissive on the .RVMAT, but that only illuminates the unit itself.

teal mirage Oct 6, 2023, 6:50 PM

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📎 config.txt

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this is where i'm currently at. it shows up in the arsenal, and it has the right texture and armour value, though it does not inheret the right 3d model

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wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 7:03 PM

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Your inheritance is incorrect

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 7:04 PM

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teal mirage

SC_MDF_Heavy inherits from SC_MDF_Torso_Base, not Vest_Camo_Base

teal mirage Oct 6, 2023, 7:05 PM

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Hmm, interesting

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 7:05 PM

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You should be getting an "Updating base class" in your rpt file

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Is there a specific sound property for a plane canopy opening/closing or would it have to just be lumped in with the engine on/off sounds?

balmy atlas Oct 6, 2023, 7:19 PM

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sound can be added to your animations as param

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class Animations {
  class myAnim {
    sound="mySound";
  };
};

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Not my animations, wanting to add a sound to a pre-existing vehicle

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Oh cool they're in config

balmy atlas Oct 6, 2023, 7:20 PM

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note you have to define the sound in CfgSounds

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 7:27 PM

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I did also find cabinOpenSound in the vehicle root as well

hearty sandal Oct 6, 2023, 7:37 PM

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tacit zealot Should be the last of my questions - is there a way to make entities emit ambien...

Attach light to it

fast ruin Oct 6, 2023, 7:58 PM

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how do I set the carrying capacity?

teal mirage Oct 6, 2023, 8:12 PM

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wintry fox `SC_MDF_Heavy` inherits from `SC_MDF_Torso_Base`, not `Vest_Camo_Base`

oh hey that was it, thank you so much!

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 8:14 PM

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fast ruin how do I set the carrying capacity?

In what?
Uniform, vest, backpack, vehicle?

fast ruin Oct 6, 2023, 8:24 PM

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wintry fox In what? Uniform, vest, backpack, vehicle?

Uniform, vest, and backpack

wintry fox Oct 6, 2023, 8:49 PM

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fast ruin Uniform, vest, and backpack

Uniforms and Vests' carrying capacities are done through their ItemInfo class

class ItemCore;
class Vest_NoCamo_Base: ItemCore
{
    class ItemInfo;
};
class V_PlateCarrier1_rgr: Vest_NoCamo_Base
{
    class ItemInfo: ItemInfo
    {
        containerClass = "Supply140"; // containerClass is a vehicle defined in CfgVehicles
    };
};

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Backpacks (and anything defined in CfgVehicles) are much simpler, and their carry capacity can be tweaked by chaning the maximumLoad, which can be any number

fast ruin Oct 6, 2023, 9:16 PM

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Thank you.

shadow brook Oct 6, 2023, 9:24 PM

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does anyone know how i could correct this?

opal crater Oct 6, 2023, 9:28 PM

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do what it says?

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add missing }

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class Body...

shadow brook Oct 6, 2023, 9:39 PM

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Fuck I’m just blind thank you

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ah now im getting the build failed i'll fuck wit again later

balmy atlas Oct 6, 2023, 11:14 PM

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each scope (class) {}; has opening { and closing }; bracket, so make sure they're all setup properly

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class SomeClass {
  class Subclass1 {
    class SubSubClass {
    };
  };
};

dusk jungle Oct 7, 2023, 7:18 AM

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When you shoot a HE tank shell through trees it explodes on every contact, but 40mm GMG shell doesnt. What config properties dictates such behaviour in the engine?

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Pictured, tank shell explodes on each penetration, grenade only explodes on ground hit

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Here are config differences between two shots: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/S0F3qkVh/raw

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Both are shotShell

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I did a test by increasing GMG shell speed x10 but it still didn't explode through trees

novel lava Oct 7, 2023, 7:29 AM

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hmm

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maybe explosive = 1 makesi t go off no matter what

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thats all I can think of, its the same simulation afterall

dusk jungle Oct 7, 2023, 7:31 AM

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Still, its it strange that HE shell explodes like 20 times when flying through trees? Isn't it a bug?

novel lava Oct 7, 2023, 7:55 AM

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Yeah it shouldnt be doing that

novel lava Oct 7, 2023, 8:37 AM

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when it does it im not sure its just the effect or if the explosion actually does damage

dusk jungle Oct 7, 2023, 8:53 AM

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novel lava when it does it im not sure its just the effect or if the explosion actually doe...

Wow, it is indeed doesn't do any damage

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Yet it triggers HitPart\HitExplosion on both target and shell hitting the foliage

novel lava Oct 7, 2023, 8:53 AM

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any damage? or just no indirectHit?

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cuz I assume it still does hit

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but it might be too low to not deal damage or something

dusk jungle Oct 7, 2023, 8:56 AM

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novel lava *any* damage? or just no indirectHit?

Nope, no damage at all

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https://pastebin.mozilla.org/DEGOUsFw/raw

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PROJECTILE HitPart, HitExplosion, ENTITY HitPart on the quad bike

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No HandleDamage fires at all

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HitPart on Quad Bike because of these fake two explosions nearby

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Dies properly on direct hit so its not my mistake

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Log for proper direct hit with HandleDamage fires: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/kthvEYZg/raw

novel lava Oct 7, 2023, 9:00 AM

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yeah its probably still dealing hitdamage but trees tend to have very high armor with high explosiveshielding so onmly indirectHit really deals any damage to them iirc

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but most likely the 'bug' is because when explosive is above 0.6 or whatever impact effects use explosionEffect etc instead

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so its technically working as intended just uh, not the way it should

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at least that's what I think is happening

dusk jungle Oct 7, 2023, 9:02 AM

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These effects still trigger HitPart like vehicle is about to be damaged

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Perhaps tree absorbs all damage and only ~0 damage is propagated to the quad enough to trigger HitPart but not enough for HandleDamage?

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Welp, here goes my idea to try to connect HitPart and HandleDamage

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All these fake HandleDamage calls and now tons of fake HitPart calls

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thinkgun

lofty thistle Oct 7, 2023, 1:15 PM

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RE: ⁠#arma3_config message
Alright well it appears I framed my problem incorrectly, and I say that because it's not a packing issue, it's a config issue. This is the error we get when we try to load into an empty editor mission with a rifleman and a crate. We're able to move past it and the addon still works after the error is closed but we want to get rid of that for when we play our missions.
This is my config.cpp for addon crates

#include "script_component.hpp"
class CfgPatches 
{
    class ADDON
    {
        units[] = {"EVLT_Fireteam_US_crate", "EVLT_Fireteam_FAL_crate", "EVLT_Fireteam_SWAT_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_Stealth_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_Rangers_SCAR_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_PMC_ACR_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_GER_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_CZ_VZ58_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_CZ_BREN_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_ME_Guer_crate","EVLT_AR_MG36_crate","EVLT_AR_HK416_crate","EVLT_MMG_MG3_crate","EVLT_AR_RPK74_crate","EVLT_HAT_TOW_crate","EVLT_MAT_MAAWS_crate","EVLT_HAT_9M133_crate","EVLT_LAT_RPG7_crate","EVLT_HAT_FGM148_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_Russia_AK762_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_FinlandArmy_AK103_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_FinlandSF_Mk16_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_TLA_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_AK74_std_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_AK74_ep_crate","EVLT_MMG_CZ_M84_crate","EVLT_RAT_RPG75_crate","EVLT_RAT_M136_crate","EVLT_MMG_PK_RU_crate","EVLT_MMG_M240_M60_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_M14_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_M16_crate","EVLT_Fireteam_M16A2_crate","EVLT_Explosives_crate","EVLT_Medical_crate","EVLT_RAT_M72A6_crate","EVLT_RAT_M72A7_crate","EVLT_AAM_Igla_crate","EVLT_AAM_Stinger_crate","EVLT_HAT_MetisM_crate","EVLT_AR_RPK762_crate"};
        weapons[] = {};
        requiredVersion = REQUIRED_VERSION;
        requiredAddons[] = {"evlt_main","evlt_medical","A3_Supplies_F_Exp","ace_main","ace_compat_rhs_afrf3","ace_compat_rhs_usf3","ace_compat_rhs_gref3","ace_compat_rhs_saf3","UK3CB_Factions_Weapons","rhssaf_c_weapons","rhsusf_c_weapons","niaweapons_226","UK3CB_Factions_Weapons","rhs_main","rhsusf_main","rhs_c_weapons","rhsusf_c_weapons","rhsgref_c_weapons","cup_weapons_ammunition","cup_weapons_fnfal","cup_weapons_xm8","cup_weapons_m72a6"};
        author[] = {"Ferdilanz"};
        authorUrl = "";
    };
};
#include "CfgEditorCategories.hpp"
#include "CfgVehicles.hpp"

The mod itself can be found on GitHub here: https://github.com/CypherV0/Everlight_Adjustments/tree/Test
I tried putting as many requiredAddons as possible to try and fix this stupid error but I can't get it to go away.

dusk jungle Oct 7, 2023, 1:31 PM

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novel lava Yeah it shouldnt be doing that

Made a ticket: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T176022

gray coyote Oct 7, 2023, 4:36 PM

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does anyone have an idea how i remove the green nametag?

hearty sandal Oct 7, 2023, 4:59 PM

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gray coyote does anyone have an idea how i remove the green nametag?

Difficulty settings

gray coyote Oct 7, 2023, 4:59 PM

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gray coyote does anyone have an idea how i remove the green nametag?

is custom

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groupIndicators=0;
friendlyTags=0;
enemyTags=0;
detectedMines=0;
commands=1;
waypoints=0;
weaponInfo=1;
stanceIndicator=2;
reducedDamage=0;
staminaBar=1;
weaponCrosshair=0;
visionAid=0;
thirdPersonView=0;
cameraShake=1;
scoreTable=0;
deathMessages=0;
vonID=0;
mapContent=0;
autoReport=0;
multipleSaves=0;

gray coyote Oct 7, 2023, 5:00 PM

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gray coyote is custom

already custom

hearty sandal Oct 7, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Maybe it's not in use

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Or something else you run overwrites it

ebon pivot Oct 7, 2023, 5:12 PM

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DUI nametags in CBA options

gray coyote Oct 7, 2023, 6:12 PM

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ebon pivot DUI nametags in CBA options

thanks

void palm Oct 7, 2023, 8:45 PM

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has anyone ever encountered an issue when building a p3d where one of your textures just wont apply? Upper and Lower here are setup the same way, triple checked all filepaths and naming conventions, triple checked the rvmat values, but for some reason the upper comes in just pitch black

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only difference I can see is the upper has these values filled out while the lower doesnt, but I also cant find a way to get rid of the values (I didnt setup the p3d)

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lofty thistle Oct 7, 2023, 8:54 PM

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void palm has anyone ever encountered an issue when building a p3d where one of your textu...

I think #arma3_model or #arma3_texture would be better for this question

void palm Oct 7, 2023, 8:55 PM

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I thought that originally but figured itd be more along the config/importing end, as its not a problem with the texture

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messing with those values is producing results so something in this import has gotten screwy

lofty thistle Oct 7, 2023, 9:00 PM

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void palm I thought that originally but figured itd be more along the config/importing end...

I disagree, you're asking a question about a model file. I reckon configs refer to Cfg files like CfgVehicles, config.cpp, CfgPatches, CfgWeapons, et cetera. I think it's inaccurate to call configurating p3d's because p3d's are model files and thus modellers would be better people to ask. I could be wrong, and I do wish you luck regardless.

hearty sandal Oct 7, 2023, 9:53 PM

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@void palm he is right. This is model. Issue, best take it there

pallid sierra Oct 8, 2023, 12:45 AM

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lofty thistle RE: ⁠https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/122121444703338496/11584950...

author = "Ferdilanz";

or

authors[] = {"Ferdilanz"};

try either or. author is a string in CfgPatches normally, not an array. When a mod has collaborators, they make a separate property named authors[] = {};

lofty thistle Oct 8, 2023, 12:46 AM

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pallid sierra ```hpp author = "Ferdilanz"; ``` or ```hpp authors[] = {"Ferdilanz"}; ``` try ei...

Thank you, will try later and report results. o7

lyric spire Oct 8, 2023, 12:48 AM

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Hey guys, been messing with my project and I need some help.

I am trying to replace the Commanders MG with another weapon class but I am confused as to how I find one and utilize it in the code.

Where/How would I search to find another weapon class to use and do I just replace the bit here in Line 140 of CfgVehicles?

pallid sierra Oct 8, 2023, 1:20 AM

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lyric spire Hey guys, been messing with my project and I need some help. I am trying to re...

CfgWeapons contains your weapons, you will use the classname of the config entry. Just know, that if the model doesn't support the weapon, its gonna look stupid.

tacit zealot Oct 8, 2023, 1:23 AM

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Any ideas why my module isn't playing the sound I want it to? I've made sure the cfgRadios entry is properly spelled, and I've verified that the audio file works in a cfgSounds entry that I have confirmed works when played on a trigger's sound effects box.
The globalChat works perfectly fine.
Both the sender unit and I have a radio.

Wait, I think I know what's up... the speaker is deleted before the audio plays.

toxic solar Oct 8, 2023, 3:23 AM

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what is the difference between a bisurf having bulletPenetrabilityWithThickness and Thickness?

like armour.bisurf doesnt have those 2 fields, and armour_plate.bisurf has Thickness=30; and bulletPenetrabilityWithThickness=15;, how would I compare/figure out which bisurf protects against bullets better?

fast ruin Oct 8, 2023, 3:39 AM

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Are there any tools to quickly create ace extended arsenal compats?

lyric spire Oct 8, 2023, 11:58 AM

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pallid sierra `CfgWeapons` contains your weapons, you will use the classname of the config ent...

And that's why I am asking, there is no cfgweapons in the Test_Tank_01 files.

I know I need the classname but where do I locate that for the weapon I wish to use?

I thought the config viewer in eden would work to locate one but could not locate a classname. Unless I have a misconception on what specifically to look for.

lyric spire Oct 8, 2023, 4:03 PM

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I am dence, was looking for the wrong file type in the config viewer

gritty rune Oct 8, 2023, 6:02 PM

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hi, facing once again a physx problem. A renovated tail dragger aircraft in Unsung, the O-1 Bird Dog, is hardly sitting on the gear. There are two anomalies right now: When placed in Editor the rear wheel touches the ground, but the main gear is sunken in the ground; the second is, as soon as power is applied to the engine via shift the plane starts rolling and cannot be stopped via z or x. Any ideas how to fix and/or debug this?

gritty rune Oct 8, 2023, 6:19 PM

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I see in diag exe with the All toggle that the brake is never applied once the engine runs

lofty thistle Oct 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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pallid sierra ```hpp author = "Ferdilanz"; ``` or ```hpp authors[] = {"Ferdilanz"}; ``` try ei...

Oh my goodness the first option made it WORK, YOU LEGEND! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:23 PM

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Hey all. How can I create a patch for an existing mod that allows me to replace certain parts of it, without including/publishing the entire mod? I know it has to do with CfgPatches, and I want to be able to reference it so that people are required to download the original creator's mod for it to work.

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Unfortunately the mod maker left no means to leave feedback or contact, neither in the mod itself nor the mod profile.

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For reference it's this mod I described under #arma3_texture. #arma3_texture message

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I'd only be replacing the p3d files with the correct rvmat references. I want to keep everything else out of my patch mod in order to force the dependencies to the original mod.

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 10:42 PM

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you cannot edit p3ds that you do not have permission to edit

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:44 PM

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ebon pivot you cannot edit p3ds that you do not have permission to edit

Not even with a text find-replace in Notepad++? mild_panic

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 10:44 PM

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no

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:44 PM

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I'll also add that the modder left the source files within a .rar archive within the mod itself, and did not bfsign it.

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Hm, okay.

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 10:45 PM

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it is not only illegal but it is not possible

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:45 PM

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Not possible?

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 10:47 PM

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p3ds are binarised

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they cannot be unbinarised and edited

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Ah, okay.

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That explains why I could in the case of their source files. Here, take a look: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2444073983

Steam Workshop::[SOURCE] Traffic Light

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And here's inside the mod folder:

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And here's inside the .rar file, including the non-binarized p3d's:

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 10:50 PM

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source & not binarized so its okey to edit

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Okay, whew. That's what I figured.

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 10:54 PM

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runic basin Okay, whew. That's what I figured.

you should DM that guy even if its source file if its needed to subscribe his mod or if you can go standalone at all with it

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:54 PM

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I'll try; the only problem is that they have a private profile and no means to post on the mod itself. I've tried to add them as a friend - but that assumes they even respond.

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 10:57 PM

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in my opinion its not needed to make it dependent of that mod cause its source at all + he has included a rar file with all source stuff included and unbinarized etc

so i think just to credit that guy and maybe add the link of his steam workshop mod might work but no dependency to his mod, so keeping standalone

runic basin Oct 8, 2023, 10:58 PM

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winter rain in my opinion its not needed to make it dependent of that mod cause its source a...

True, though at the same time by requiring it, it forces people to download it, which is far better than providing credit, IMO.

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Anyway; how do I create a patch that only includes the patched p3d's?

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 11:22 PM

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winter rain source & not binarized so its okey to edit

no its not, no permission == no permission

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unless permission to edit is given in the description they cannot edit it

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 11:26 PM

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ebon pivot no its not, no permission == no permission

for what is it source then? for nonsense?

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 11:28 PM

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giving out source material doesnt mean its free to use

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see: a significant number of projects on github

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 11:33 PM

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its declared as source and also has a rar file in it with unbinarized content as source files

maybe that guy doesnt have github

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 11:48 PM

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i already said

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giving out source material doesnt mean its free to use

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this is quite basic ip law

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 11:48 PM

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yeah like a license is missed

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 11:49 PM

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yes, no license means most restrictive applies

winter rain Oct 8, 2023, 11:50 PM

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sounds for me more like that guy didnt know about that, cause makes no sense to release something as source and declare it as source

ebon pivot Oct 8, 2023, 11:50 PM

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doesnt matter

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there is no such thing as implicit permission

runic basin Oct 9, 2023, 4:55 AM

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~~Yeah, unfortuately, sounds to be the case, sadly.

Since that's the case, I'll have to do it using a config.cpp, and create (or copy?) the three files it is 'missing'. Specifically, it has these three lines within its p3d's:

color_01.paa (only in drr_trafficlight_p11.p3d & drr_trafficlight_p12.p3d)
a3\data_f\lights\weapon_chemlight_drr_emit.rvmat```

`color_00.paa` and `color_01.paa` doesn't exist at all, and has no file name, so I'm not sure how to parse that in the config.cpp. In addition, `a3\data_f\lights\weapon_chemlight_drr_emit.rvmat` doesn't exist in Arma 3 whatsoever despite the link pointing to `data_f.pbo`.  However, looking at the working green and yellow lights, they link to `a3\data_f\lights\weapon_chemlight_green_emit.rvmat` and `a3\data_f\lights\weapon_chemlight_yellow_emit.rvmat` respectively. Therefore, my assumption is that `a3\data_f\lights\weapon_chemlight_red_emit.rvmat` is the intended path.

Therefore, the simplest fix is, optimally, to somehow redirect the file to the correct file. But I don't think that's doable. Instead, I could contain a copy of Bohemia's `weapon_chemlight_red_emit.rvmat`, and rename it to the correct file. But in either case, how would I get it to read as a3?

Any help would be appreciated as this is a bit above my paygrade.~~ Sounds like this would also affect the IP, even then. Sadly nothing else I can do. 😦

gritty rune Oct 9, 2023, 10:33 AM

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Also asked on Twitter: what is the Engine RPM in the diagnostics output and why would the RPMs increase when throttle is zero of a plane? The plane rolls forward though, brake is never applied. I'm looking for the root cause of this forward movement, but a bit lost currently

novel lava Oct 9, 2023, 11:20 AM

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rpm is scuffed for planes

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its basically 0-1, with it reachign 1 after the engine is running for a couple seconds

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the plane rolling forward can sometimes be the landcontacts

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if landcontact on plane is under the physx wheel geometry it will roll forward

balmy night Oct 9, 2023, 4:28 PM

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I have a problem that I need help with. The point is that I created a warlords scenario and also a custom asset list. The basic AI skill is 70% but I want the AI skill to vary depending on the unit. For example, the sniper should have a higher skill than the normal shooter. What code do I have to write in the description.ext or other file for this to work and above all HOW DOES IT WORK (I have 14,000 hours in Arma 3) please help. i try it in arma Scripting, arma AI modding but nobody can help me there. i hope you know here becurse the People there tell me that.

class CfgWLRequisitionPresets
{
class MyWLAssetList
{
class WEST
{
class Infantry
{
class B_recon_TL_F
{
cost = 100;
requirements[] = {};
};
class B_T_Recon_TL_F
{
cost = 150;
requirements[] = {};
};
is this possible to add it for any unit hete?

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is it possible to Set by "requirements[_setunitskill...]"

pallid sierra Oct 9, 2023, 5:00 PM

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balmy night I have a problem that I need help with. The point is that I created a warlords ...

not a config issue, look back in #arma3_scripting. I looked through the functions of WL for you and found stuff on how/when it changes skill.

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requirements[] = {} in that warlords config is for things like requiring an airstrip, helipad, harbor etc

gritty rune Oct 9, 2023, 5:38 PM

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novel lava rpm is scuffed for planes

interesting! The engine RPM value went really high, up to 2000 for the O-1. I changed the landcontacts name to the wheels instead of dampers, and moved the CoG even more forward, almost on top the main gear. The plane stopped rolling now, can take off, but flips over the nose upon landing 😦

fast ruin Oct 9, 2023, 5:58 PM

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Am i correct in my assumption that you can’t edit the max carry weight in your configs?

wintry fox Oct 9, 2023, 10:53 PM

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fast ruin Am i correct in my assumption that you can’t edit the max carry weight in your c...

As in the max carry weight for the stamina bar?
Or do you mean for uniforms, vests, etc.

fast ruin Oct 9, 2023, 11:04 PM

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wintry fox As in the max carry weight for the stamina bar? Or do you mean for uniforms, ves...

For the stamina bar yeah.

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But it doesn’t matter cause I clarified what the person I’m making the mod for wanted and they wanted to add to the holding capacity for a uniform and vest so it’s all good now. I know how to do that

hearty sandal Oct 10, 2023, 2:49 AM

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Id recommend not using such mods. it undermines all the hard work real modders do

tidal relic Oct 10, 2023, 2:53 AM

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hearty sandal Id recommend not using such mods. it undermines all the hard work real modders d...

Unfortunately im not new to those problems. Just wasnt sure if this mod was one of those.

hearty sandal Oct 10, 2023, 2:55 AM

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👍

wintry fox Oct 10, 2023, 3:47 AM

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Can you use a sound set for a weapon's dry sound?

remote salmon Oct 10, 2023, 4:37 AM

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https://gyazo.com/ac1346febaf4b89bd25321107f0d49cb
Anyone know how I can fix this? I only have the one rotation action at the moment. Before it's asked yes the axis is centered. When I remove the roatation the bolt moves perfectly back however oncee I add the rotation it moves the entire bolt outside the rifle like that. It's weird because when I preview in in bulldozer it works perfect, however once brought in-game it does that.

Gyazo

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fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 1:19 PM

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Macros that are gonna be used inside config require to be defined inside the config itself or can i define them anywhere and still be able to use them inside classes?

Im including a .hpp file that contains a defined macro function so I don't have to define every single bit of config, but for whatever reason it says that it has ; instead of = (as in improper definition of a class), I checked the content of the macro itself and without macroing it, it works just fine so I'm probably not just defining the macro correctly. The include is being read properly, as if I rename it or point to a different path to look for it it tells me that the file has not been found.

Is there anything special I need to do for it to work properly?

I have never defined anything but static values, let alone multilines so Im prolly missing some context

ebon pivot Oct 10, 2023, 1:32 PM

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so long as they are included in the config theyre fine

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send the macro you are using

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 1:36 PM

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ebon pivot so long as they are included in the config theyre fine

this is probably why then, give me a min to get the files

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#include "\MK_mod\SystemInit\mk_hitpoints.hpp" //Wondering if this should go inside cfgVehicles itself

class CfgVehicles
{
    class Land;
    class Man: Land
    {
        class EventHandlers
        {
            class MKClass
            {
                init = "[] call mk_initSystems;";
            };
        };
    };
    
    class CAManBase: Man 
    {
        class HitPoints
        {
            MK_CUSTOMHITPOINTS; //The macro itself
        };
    };
};

This is the content included:

#define MK_CUSTOMHITPOINTS\
class HitHands;\
class HitLegs;\
class HitRArm: HitHands\
{\
    material = -1;\
    name = "hand_r";\
    radius = 0.08;\
    visual = "injury_hands";\
    minimalHit = 0.01;\
};\
class HitLArm: hitRArm\
{\
    name = "hand_l";\
};\
class HitRLeg: HitLegs\
{\
    material = -1;\
    name = "leg_r";\
    radius = 0.1;\
    visual = "injury_legs";\
    minimalHit = 0.01;\
};\
class HitLLeg: hitRLeg\
{\
    name = "leg_l";\
}

ebon pivot Oct 10, 2023, 1:40 PM

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cant tell if its discord but you seem to have spaces after the backslashes

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yeah nvm its discord

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it doesnt need to go inside of cfgvehicles

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i would probably put the opening braces on the same line as the class def but thats not it

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i need to go sort my washing though so brb

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 1:41 PM

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np

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 3:54 PM

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Just take care of editing the CAManBase class and adding new Hitpoints, it could be that ACE wont work anymore

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 3:55 PM

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I know, the system im making is incompatible with ace medical by default so not big issues

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 3:55 PM

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salute

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 3:56 PM

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it is actually an alternative to ace medical for specific solution required for us.

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Its not really a big deal since its for the sake of tidiness, was just really wondering how im I supposed to declare and use these macros correctly.
If it doesn't work I might as well just include the file as is instead of using the macro multiple times

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 3:59 PM

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Yeah thats fine. Cause i did something "similar" but i didnt add a Hitpoint by myself, i have just reactivated a thing that BI has deativated and it disturbed ACE at least cause that thing added its own Hitpoint by itself and i had to find a solution with ACE devs to make it working cause a lot ppl want to use ACE with my modification and i did it just for the community at least to find a solution

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 4:00 PM

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now that I think of it, can you even #include the same file multiple times?

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 4:01 PM

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What does the file include?

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 4:01 PM

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this but without the macro definition

#define MK_CUSTOMHITPOINTS\
class HitHands;\
class HitLegs;\
class HitRArm: HitHands\
{\
    material = -1;\
    name = "hand_r";\
    radius = 0.08;\
    visual = "injury_hands";\
    minimalHit = 0.01;\
};\
class HitLArm: hitRArm\
{\
    name = "hand_l";\
};\
class HitRLeg: HitLegs\
{\
    material = -1;\
    name = "leg_r";\
    radius = 0.1;\
    visual = "injury_legs";\
    minimalHit = 0.01;\
};\
class HitLLeg: hitRLeg\
{\
    name = "leg_l";\
}

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 4:02 PM

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You can include that for your base class and your next class have to be inherited of your base class so you dont need to include it several times.

But yes in your class HitPoints you can include it every time for every unit class

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If you dont inherit of your base class

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 4:04 PM

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Ill have to see if doing the include is required in multiple instances since ACE does the macro fro their hitpoints in 20 or so different base classes

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i would assume that using camanbase is enough, but i dont see them doing so

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 4:05 PM

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The CAManBase is the most oldest base class, next classes are the that B_Soldier_F or something, O and G if im right

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 4:05 PM

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since doing it man doesnt make camanbase inherit it

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 4:05 PM

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winter rain The CAManBase is the most oldest base class, next classes are the that B_Soldier...

yeah, they do one for each faction and then one for the contact units

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some additional for VRs units and campaign units

winter rain Oct 10, 2023, 4:07 PM

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You might try out if it works with only CAManBase class

Just to note, editing this one will edit also everyone, even custom mod ones

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Only if they didnt own Hitpoints and didnt inherit of HitPoints

fleet adder Oct 10, 2023, 4:08 PM

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which is fine, I already have a less none invasive solution but i can see it become network intensive so I wanted to see it it was possible to have an allrounder solutions for all the playable unit types.

Thanks for the info

lethal shuttle Oct 10, 2023, 5:08 PM

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so i made a tank and used the physx.hpp from the sample, and it seems that the tank would not go farther anymore than 22 km/h.

ive changed the enginepower, gearboxratio, transmisionratio/losses, and it seems to have affected anything at all.

I changed the MOI and dampingrateinAir but it just let to the vehicle being way too fast and unsteerable

i have set the weights to 30000 and 15000 and both have resulted in the same thing... would love some help on how i can increase my tank speed :)

hearty sandal Oct 10, 2023, 5:09 PM

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are you sure you have edited the same file you have packed into the game?

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are you sure you include the physx.hpp in the config you pack?

lethal shuttle Oct 10, 2023, 5:12 PM

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hearty sandal are you sure you include the physx.hpp in the config you pack?

yes it is included in cfgvehicles

hearty sandal Oct 10, 2023, 5:24 PM

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are you sure the changes you make actually go into game?

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as what you describe sounds like changes do nothing

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and they should do a lot

lethal shuttle Oct 10, 2023, 5:26 PM

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well i did change the MOI and dampingrateinair and did change drastically (went over 300 km /h)

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but the others ones i mentioned did not do any difference

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so im pretty sure the changes got into the game...

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for example i increased enginepower from 500 to 1500, and there was no difference

undone patio Oct 11, 2023, 5:20 PM

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So, is there any guide that includes documentation for things like TransportMagazines and such? I'm defining a few custom ammo boxes.

wintry fox Oct 11, 2023, 5:31 PM

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It's basically the same as the other Transport classes

class TransportMagazines
{
    class _xx_YourMag
    {
        magazine = "YourMag";
        count = 1;
    };
};

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Just swap out the class and then change magazine to item, weapon, etc.

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Also the _xx_YourMag is just convention, you could just do YourMag if you wanted to

undone patio Oct 11, 2023, 6:39 PM

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Thanks

wintry fox Oct 11, 2023, 7:22 PM

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Running into some (seemingly) weird behavior when trying to add XEH to an object. Instead of using the CBA_Extended_EventHandlers_base root class, it's creating a class with the same name in CfgVehicles and inheriting from that

Here's the code after packing and then unbinning, thought it might have been a weird packing issue but it's all correct

class CBA_Extended_EventHandlers_base;
class CfgVehicles
{
    class BNA_KC_Object_Base;
    class BNA_KC_Utility_Base: BNA_KC_Object_Base
    {
        // ...
        class EventHandlers
        {
            class CBA_Extended_EventHandlers: CBA_Extended_EventHandlers_base
            {
            };
        };
    };
};

wintry fox Oct 11, 2023, 7:40 PM

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I changed it to inherit from the normal CBA_Extended_EventHandlers instead of _base and it worked perfectly fine
Not sure why

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 8:52 AM

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If anyone could help, I still really need it. Me and my buddy have not been able to fix this issues despite playing with the values and looking at a base arma gun and a modded example. This our config: https://gyazo.com/5c486f0c243363b5d9e43ae35ec214e2

Gyazo

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and unfortunately in-game the rotation does this. Keep in mind when the rotation is removed the bolt moving backwards looks fine. Also in object builder it also looks perfect. The problem only happens in-game https://gyazo.com/234b7b4eafdc70fb08a55dcc19b83d7a

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winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 9:35 AM

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What is the exact problem? The slow speed or that the bolt is to much left while moving forward again?

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 9:49 AM

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i'd assume the fact that bolts moves left at all

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:00 AM

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If thats the case the problem is:
A) in the cfgSkeletons hirarchy
B) your memorypoint axis is not straight

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:04 AM

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He is correct, the bolt should just be rotating almost like a block and coming backwards.

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it uses the same axis as the bolt coming back which is perfect. How would I adjust the hierarchy then? Just place the rotation before the translation? I was under the impression that in the model cfg regardless of order of actions if they are produced by the same source they would happen simultaneously?

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:08 AM

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The axis is completly in the middle of it and it contains 2 points?

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:08 AM

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winter rain The axis is completly in the middle of it and it contains 2 points?

Correct.

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https://gyazo.com/f63590a0511eafcfa656f462d08edcc7

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On the reload without any rotation the bolt comes perfectly back

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:12 AM

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What happens if you add to the bolt_reload1 sourceAdress=clamp aswell?

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Cause the other 2 have it

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:13 AM

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remote salmon On the reload without any rotation the bolt comes perfectly back

Yep that looks pretty smooth and neat 👍

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:13 AM

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I added it and no change.

fathom zealot Oct 12, 2023, 10:13 AM

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Or do like what I do, ALT+Z everything it call it a day.

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:14 AM

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My biggest frustration is like I said when I preview it in object builder it functions flawlessly. It's only when I get in-game

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Well I'd like to solve the issue so I can finish my project and know why it's broken for future reference as awell lol

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:18 AM

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Try to change on it angle1= rad 57

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 10:19 AM

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does repro with what i believe to be the correct setup notlikemeowcry

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:21 AM

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I always add to rotation anims rad number maybe thats the problem instead of just a number

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:22 AM

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https://gyazo.com/2cf4f8da0e577995bd8983a52415d46c

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It has defiantly made it more interesting

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:23 AM

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Looks for me like cfgSkeleton issue

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:23 AM

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What would you suggest I do? just re-write it from scratch?

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:24 AM

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HG might know it now kekw2

hearty sandal Oct 12, 2023, 10:24 AM

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Autocenter property set up correctly in geometry lod?

novel lava Oct 12, 2023, 10:24 AM

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post the skeleton

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 10:25 AM

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no named properties at all in whatever i've done

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:25 AM

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class cfgSkeletons
{
class EC_Huntingrifle
{
skeletonInherit = "";
isDiscrete = 0;
SkeletonBones[]=
{
"trigger" ,"",
"bolt" ,"",
"ch" ,"",
"chh" ,"ch",
"magazine" ,"",
};
};
};
class CfgModels
{
class Default
{
sections[] = {};
sectionsInherit="";
skeletonName = "";
};
class EC_Huntingrifle:Default
{
skeletonName="EC_Huntingrifle";
sections[]=
{
"zasleh",
"camo"
};
/<potential axis>
backsight
bolt
bolt_axis
camo
eye
foresight
konec hlavne
leg_l
leg_l_axis
leg_r
leg_r_axis
magazine
magazine_axis
nabojniceend
nabojnicestart
trigger
trigger_axis
usti hlavne
zasleh
</potential axis>/
class Animations
{
class no_magazine
{
type="hide";
source="hasmagazine";
selection="magazine";
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.0;//rad 0.0
maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578
hideValue = 0.5;
// unHideValue = -1.0;//(default)
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
};
class trigger
{
type="rotation";
source="reload";
selection="trigger";
axis = "trigger_axis";
sourceAddress="clamp";
minPhase=0;
maxPhase=1;
minValue=0;
maxValue=1;
memory=0;
angle0=0;
angle1=-0.5235988;
};
class bolt_reload_move1
{
type="translation";
source="reload";
selection="Bolt";
axis="bolt_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.1;//rad 5.729578
maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578
offset0 = 0.0;
offset1 = -1.0;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};
class bolt_reload1
{
type="rotation";
source="reload";
selection="Bolt";
axis="bolt_axis";
minValue= 0.000000;
maxValue= 0.100000;
angle0=0;
angle1=0.57;
memory = true;
};
class bolt_reload_move_last
{
type="translation";
source="isemptynoreload";
selection="Bolt";
axis="bolt_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.1;//rad 5.729578
maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578
offset0 = 0.0;
offset1 = -1.0;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};
class bolt_magazine_reload_move_1
{
type="translation";
source="reloadmagazine";
selection="Bolt";
axis="bolt_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.12;//rad 6.8754935
maxValue = 0.17;//rad 9.740283
offset0 = 0.0;
offset1 = -1.0;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};

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class bolt_magazine_reload_move_2
{
type="translation";
source="reloadmagazine";
selection="Bolt";
axis="bolt_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.795;//rad 45.550144
maxValue = 0.811;//rad 46.466877
offset0 = 0.0;
offset1 = 1.0;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};
class magazine_hide
{
type="hide";
source="reloadmagazine";
selection="magazine";
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.0;//rad 0.0
maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578
hideValue = 0.31;
unHideValue = 0.565;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
};
class magazine_move_1
{
type="translation";
source="reloadmagazine";
selection="magazine";
axis="magazine_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.302;//rad 17.303324
maxValue = 0.312;//rad 17.876284
offset0 = 0.0;
offset1 = 0.7;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};
class magazine_move_2
{
type="translation";
source="reloadmagazine";
selection="magazine";
axis="magazine_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.57;//rad 32.658592
maxValue = 0.581;//rad 33.288845
offset0 = 0.0;
offset1 = -0.7;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};
};//</Animations>
};//</Modelclass>
};//</CfgModels>

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:26 AM

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hearty sandal Autocenter property set up correctly in geometry lod?

I think so, if it wasn't.. Shouldn't it affect the other animations as well?

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Actually scratch that. I haven't even setup geo yet because of the animation issue.

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:28 AM

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Try to add just a Geometry LOD and add the property

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:29 AM

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What do you mean? I have the actual LOD layer there, just nothing in it.

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Is your suggestion I go build the geo and retry?

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:29 AM

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Cause in OB viewer it works even without it but ingame it can go completly different

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:29 AM

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remote salmon Is your suggestion I go build the geo and retry?

Yep

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:29 AM

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Alright standby a moment

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:30 AM

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And add the property autocenter

novel lava Oct 12, 2023, 10:31 AM

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yeah just an empty one with the property will do

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:34 AM

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I have a basic geo built, how do I add the autocent property?

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:34 AM

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Alt+P opens your property window

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In OB

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Right click into it and add new one called autocenter and bottom line add 0

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:36 AM

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I assume I'm doing that for all lods?

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:36 AM

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Only geometry lod

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:38 AM

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👍 , I am packing and trying in now

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Also for more references for properties
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Named_Properties

Arma 3: Named Properties

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:40 AM

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https://gyazo.com/94b9e3304c9590ab494bfb9997276dae

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I'll be dammed.

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:40 AM

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rock

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:40 AM

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Thank you so much for the help. I really appreciate it. This has been causing me a headache for days.

winter rain Oct 12, 2023, 10:41 AM

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@hearty sandal s tip

remote salmon Oct 12, 2023, 10:41 AM

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@hearty sandal Thank you too again, I know you have helped me on previous occasions as well.

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 10:43 AM

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yaay, works on my end as well 🎉

hearty sandal Oct 12, 2023, 10:47 AM

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hmmyes

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Moment of clarity when waking up

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Well spent

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 10:48 AM

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autocenter tearing poor vertex families apart again

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but OB/ingame inconsistency is notlikemeow

hearty sandal Oct 12, 2023, 10:51 AM

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Autocenter always baffles me. It needs to be turned off for so many things you would think it would be off by default and turned on when needed

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It messes up so many things

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 10:51 AM

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things like sanity

lyric spire Oct 12, 2023, 1:30 PM

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Hey guys, Been working on my project and ran into an issue where the weapon I am using for my tank is not working correctly.

Issue: The commanders gun, the bullets come out from the right place and cause no problems, the muzzle flashes and smoke however are coming from the main gun.

I made a new weapon cfg to try and allow me to define where the effect come from(see the attached file for what I did), this did not work and I do not understand where I am going wrong here or if I am missing a step of some kind.

📎 CfgWeapons.hpp

ashen chasm Oct 12, 2023, 1:32 PM

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lyric spire Hey guys, Been working on my project and ran into an issue where the weapon I am...

maybe this part of vanilla config can help you: hpp class LMG_Minigun2: LMG_Minigun { class GunParticles { class effect1 { positionName="machinegun2_eject_pos"; directionName="machinegun2_eject_dir"; effectName="MachineGunCartridge1"; }; class effect2 { positionName="machinegun2_end"; directionName="machinegun2_beg"; effectName="MachineGun1"; }; }; };

lyric spire Oct 12, 2023, 1:52 PM

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ashen chasm maybe this part of vanilla config can help you: ```hpp class LMG_Minigun2: L...

How so, new to modding so I admit I do not fully understand what you may be hinting at.

nimble sequoia Oct 12, 2023, 2:15 PM

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lyric spire How so, new to modding so I admit I do not fully understand what you may be hint...

For the muzzle flash in the p3d, have you chosen a unique name for the proxy on the 2nd weapon, like 'zasleh_2', and then set that in the weapon's turret config for 'selectionFireAnim'. It also needs to go in the model.cfg sections[] array.

lyric spire Oct 12, 2023, 3:55 PM

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lyric spire Hey guys, Been working on my project and ran into an issue where the weapon I am...

@nimble sequoia

Just to be sure I am understanding what is being said here:

I would define the zasleh_2(as you say) in the weapons config and then add that onto the selections in the cfgmodel?

nimble sequoia Oct 12, 2023, 5:17 PM

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No, in your config.cpp find the class Turret with weapon 2 and also in your p3d name the proxy on the end of weapon 2 with that named selection.

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So class Turret, model.cfg sections[] and p3d proxy name.

graceful tree Oct 12, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Someone have any good tips for re rigging lasers and lights for weapons?
I have a few weapons in my units mod pack that are projecting from the magazine instead of the laser units.

hearty sandal Oct 12, 2023, 11:26 PM

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graceful tree Someone have any good tips for re rigging lasers and lights for weapons? I have...

cant edit weapons

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so not much you can do if they dont have correct things in the models

graceful tree Oct 12, 2023, 11:42 PM

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Well, what if only the itn stuff is messed up, but the vanilla laser/light is correct?

hearty sandal Oct 12, 2023, 11:49 PM

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graceful tree Well, what if only the itn stuff is messed up, but the vanilla laser/light is co...

itn?

graceful tree Oct 12, 2023, 11:55 PM

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I have all of the features of ITN, but they all project from the magazine. Like ITN recognizes the modded guns, but not the data points for where it should be emitting from.

I guess I should reach out to the mod maker for help

hearty sandal Oct 13, 2023, 12:12 AM

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graceful tree I have all of the features of ITN, but they all project from the magazine. Like ...

if you dont know your way around configs then yes could be easiest to ask whoever made the stuff if there are compatible points available

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 6:53 AM

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anybody have any good guide to changing the units a vehicle spawn with when making a new vehicle with inheritance? something like this:
class rhsgref_cdf_b_t72ba_tv_rev_14: rhsgref_cdf_b_t72ba_tv { author = "Orter"; scope = 2; crew = "rhsgref_cdf_b_reg_crew_rev_14"; faction = "CDF_REV_BLU"; editorSubcategory = "CDF_TANKS_14" displayName = "T-72B (obr. 1984g.)"; class Turrets: Turrets { class MainTurret: MainTurret { class Turrets: Turrets { class CommanderOptics: CommanderOptics { gunnerType = "rhsgref_cdf_b_reg_crew_commander_rev_14"; }; }; }; }; };
right now only the driver is spawning and the animation is frozen as if simulation was turned off, i,e: muzzle flashes frozen in place

wintry tartan Oct 13, 2023, 6:59 AM

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Show the entire config please

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 7:06 AM

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📎 config.cpp

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youll have to download it unfortunately

wintry tartan Oct 13, 2023, 7:19 AM

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You haven't defined rhsgref_cdf_b_t72ba_tv's Turrets, MainTurret, Turrets, CommanderOptics

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 7:21 AM

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right. I was under the impression that line 1076 thru 1079 defined those, at the very least it removed the prompt from the game. do I have to define for each individual vehicle class?

wintry tartan Oct 13, 2023, 7:22 AM

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1076 to 1079 is not something how it works, let me fetch an official example

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class LandVehicle;
class Tank: LandVehicle
{
    class NewTurret;
    class HitPoints;
};
class Tank_F: Tank
{
    class Turrets
    {
        class MainTurret: NewTurret
        {
            class Turrets;
        };
    };
    class HitPoints;
};
class MBT_01_base_F: Tank_F
{
    class HitPoints: HitPoints
    {
        class HitHull;
        class HitFuel;
        class HitEngine;
        class HitLTrack;
        class HitRTrack;
    };
    class Turrets: Turrets
    {
        class MainTurret: MainTurret
        {
            class Turrets: Turrets
            {
                class CommanderOptics;
            };
        };
    };
};
class B_MBT_01_base_F: MBT_01_base_F{};
class B_MBT_01_cannon_F: B_MBT_01_base_F
{
    class AnimationSources;
    class HitPoints: HitPoints
    {
        class HitHull;
        class HitFuel;
        class HitEngine;
        class HitLTrack;
        class HitRTrack;
    };
};
class B_MBT_01_TUSK_F: B_MBT_01_cannon_F
{
    class Turrets: Turrets
    {
        /*
            things to define
        */
    };
};```

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Basically you need to define “which” turret it was

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Or something else you want to define/inherit

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 7:32 AM

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so if im reading it correctly. instead of defining just like:
class Turrets; class MainTurret; class CommanderOptics; class CommanderMG;

I should have: class B_MBT_01_TUSK_F: B_MBT_01_cannon_F { class Turrets: Turrets { class MainTurret; class CommanderOptics; class CommanderMG; }; };

and if I am inheriting from another vehicle with everything already set up, can I miss anything that I am not planning on editing and it will just fallpack to the parent class correct?

wintry tartan Oct 13, 2023, 7:33 AM

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The example I've posted above, does nothing for those base classes

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 7:39 AM

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you mean it doesnt inherit from any base class?

wintry tartan Oct 13, 2023, 7:40 AM

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Hm guess I misunderstood your last question?

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Oh yeah I guess I did. Yeah if you have things that is already defined, you don't need to re-define once again if I get it correctly

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 7:48 AM

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yea thats correct.

deep roost Oct 13, 2023, 8:58 AM

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still havent got it working unfortunately :/ clearly missing something crucial. same result as previously

📎 config.cpp

remote salmon Oct 13, 2023, 9:31 AM

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Is it possible to have two different side proxys? So that way I can use one to define a different model placement for a specific attachment?

hearty sandal Oct 13, 2023, 10:36 AM

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remote salmon Is it possible to have two different side proxys? So that way I can use one to d...

No

remote salmon Oct 13, 2023, 10:51 AM

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😢

narrow swallow Oct 13, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Is animationSourceElevation (strider cam mast/science ugv arm) only for turrets? I'd like to use that input/animation for a driver-only vehicle.

nimble sequoia Oct 13, 2023, 4:53 PM

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narrow swallow Is `animationSourceElevation` (strider cam mast/science ugv arm) only for turret...

Yes, it's a turret config parameter.

autumn crater Oct 13, 2023, 10:42 PM

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does anyone, at all, know why when changing a pylon (in game) it changes who controls the weapon?

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specifically, the proxyid for the gunner is set to 1.

this is both model and config side.

Inside of the pylon, I have it set as turret[]={1}

I have also tried turret[]={0} to no avail

If my pylons are different weapons for example (A / B) then the gunner controls them as intended.

If I set my pylons to the same weapons (A / A) then they, for some reason, move to a door gun on the aircraft.

My current turret and pylon config:
https://pastebin.com/N5pareav

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class Turrets: Turrets { class GunnerTurret: GunnerTurret { ...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

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update:

Was told to check to ensure the class GunnerTurret was commanding, this did not correct the issue.

wind jewel Oct 14, 2023, 4:15 AM

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Im currently making a mod that adds the M728 CEV to the game. I made a new weapon in CfgWeapons in my config for a 165mm cannon. The issue is that it will not fire in game. It doesnt throw up any errors in game either so im quite confused

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https://pastebin.com/1rBMsKA4

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m728CEV config - Pastebin.com

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here's my current config if someone wants to look at it and help me solve this issue

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feel free to DM if you want/need more info

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 4:31 AM

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You should definitely add a tag to your classes

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 4:33 AM

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wind jewel Im currently making a mod that adds the M728 CEV to the game. I made a new weapo...

Maybe double check that the Player fire mode is actually shown to the player?

wind jewel Oct 14, 2023, 4:51 AM

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wintry fox You should definitely add a tag to your classes

not exactly sure what you mean by that, could you explain it a bit more for me? Im super new to arma modding

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do you mean a prefix?

wind jewel Oct 14, 2023, 4:53 AM

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wintry fox Maybe double check that the `Player` fire mode is actually shown to the player?

how would I check that? In game it shows up as if It properly set up but clicking doesnt fire the cannon

winter rain Oct 14, 2023, 5:32 AM

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wind jewel how would I check that? In game it shows up as if It properly set up but clickin...

Your Vehicle, in your Turret config, does it have:

gunEnd = Konec hlavne;```
and do the memory points also exist in your model in Memory LOD?

wind jewel Oct 14, 2023, 5:43 AM

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winter rain Your Vehicle, in your Turret config, does it have: ```gunBeg = Usti hlavne; gunE...

yes, both of those are set up

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 9:27 AM

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Hello , i need some help

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Im trying to replace the doorguns in the RHS UH1Y with another weapon

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i have sucessfully replaced it but in the process, i have broken some other stuff

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The observer (Co-pilot) is no longer available along with other passanger seats

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 10:45 AM

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wind jewel not exactly sure what you mean by that, could you explain it a bit more for me? ...

Yeah

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 10:52 AM

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languid aurora The observer (Co-pilot) is no longer available along with other passanger seats

(On mobile currently so can't really give a good example)
When you inherit from a vehicle's Turrets class, none of the turrets are "actually inherited".
You'll need to specify what all turrets (i.e. seats) you want to inherit and then define them in your vehicle.

class YourVehicleBase: ... {
    class Turrets {
        class DoorGunner1;
        class CoPilot;
        // ...
    };
};
class YourVehicle: YourVehicleBase {
    class Turrets: Turrets {
        class DoorGunner1: DoorGunner1 {};
        class CoPilot: CoPilot {};
    };
};

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Syntax may not be 100% right, but you get the idea

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 11:04 AM

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This is what i've done so far:

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class CfgVehicles
{
class CopilotTurret;
class Turrets;
class MainTurret;
class CargoTurret;
class CargoTurret_01;
class CargoTurret_02;
class CargoTurret_03;
class CargoTurret_04;
class CargoTurret_05;
class CargoTurret_06;
class RightDoorGun;
class RHS_UH1Y
{
class Turrets: Turrets
{
class CopilotTurret;
class MainTurret;
class RightDoorGun;
class CargoTurret_01;
class CargoTurret_02;
class CargoTurret_03;
class CargoTurret_04;
class CargoTurret_05;
class CargoTurret_06;
};
};
class tato_uh1y_base: RHS_UH1Y
{
class Turrets: Turrets
{
class CopilotTurret;
class MainTurret: MainTurret
{
weapons[] = {"vtx_wpn_m134"};
magazines[] = {"vtx_2000Rnd_65x39_Belt_Tracer_Red"};
};
class RightDoorGun: RightDoorGun
{
weapons[] = {"vtx_wpn_m134_2nd"};
magazines[] = {"vtx_2000Rnd_65x39_Belt_Tracer_Red"};
};
class CargoTurret_01;
class CargoTurret_02;
class CargoTurret_03;
class CargoTurret_04;
class CargoTurret_05;
class CargoTurret_06;
};
};
class csg12_uh1y: tato_uh1y_base
{
scope = 2;
displayName = "UH-1Y CAG";
author = "P. Tato";
faction = "HMLA_267";
model = "\rhsusf\addons\rhsusf_a2port_air2\UH1Y\UH1Y.p3d";
hiddenSelections[] = {"camo1"};
hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\exp_csg12_uh1y\data\hmla267_uh1y_hivis.paa","\exp_csg12_uh1y\data\uh1y_int.paa","\exp_csg12_uh1y\data\uh1y_glass.paa"};
};
};

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 11:53 AM

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Hi there, I'm trying to overwrite the model of a vanilla weapon sight with a different model inside the description.ext for my mission and can't get it to work. I hope this is the right place to ask. My description.ext:


class CfgWeapons {
    class optic_Aco {
        displayName = "C-More Railway (broken)";
        model = "\acco_aco_emp_F.p3d";
    };
};

wintry tartan Oct 14, 2023, 11:53 AM

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You can't

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 11:54 AM

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I can't?

wintry tartan Oct 14, 2023, 11:54 AM

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No

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 11:54 AM

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Gotta make a mod for it?

wintry tartan Oct 14, 2023, 11:54 AM

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Yes

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 11:54 AM

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Dang 😦

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Well, thank you kindly

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:03 PM

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languid aurora class CfgVehicles { class CopilotTurret; class Turrets; class MainTu...

Doing a class reference (class CoPilotTurret) won't actually create a turret for it, you need to do class Turret: Turret {};

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Also what's the point of these?
There shouldn't be any classes with those names defined in CfgVehicles

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:08 PM

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wintry fox Also what's the point of these? There shouldn't be any classes with those names ...

im self taught, that was my latest attempt to see whether the issue would be fixed

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:08 PM

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Fair enough

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:09 PM

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Heres the original one where the guns were replaced but the seats were broken

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class CfgVehicles
{
class Turrets;
class RHS_UH1Y
{
class Turrets: Turrets
{
class MainTurret;
class RightDoorGun;
};
};
class tato_uh1y_base: RHS_UH1Y
{
class Turrets: Turrets
{
class MainTurret: MainTurret
{
weapons[] = {"vtx_wpn_m134"};
magazines[] = {"vtx_2000Rnd_65x39_Belt_Tracer_Red"};
};
class RightDoorGun: RightDoorGun
{
weapons[] = {"vtx_wpn_m134_2nd"};
magazines[] = {"vtx_2000Rnd_65x39_Belt_Tracer_Red"};
};
};
};
class csg12_uh1y: tato_uh1y_base
{
scope = 2;
displayName = "UH-1Y CAG";
author = "P. Tato";
faction = "HMLA_267";
model = "\rhsusf\addons\rhsusf_a2port_air2\UH1Y\UH1Y.p3d";
hiddenSelections[] = {"camo1","camo2"};
hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\exp_csg12_uh1y\data\hmla267_uh1y_hivis.paa","\exp_csg12_uh1y\data\uh1y_int.paa"};
};
};

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:10 PM

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I'm sure that RHS_UH1Y inherits from something

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:11 PM

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wintry fox I'm sure that RHS_UH1Y inherits from *something*

RHS_UH1Y_US_base

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:11 PM

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You should include that in your inference, otherwise you're updating it to inherit from nothing

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:12 PM

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i see..

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:15 PM

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wintry fox You should include that in your inference, otherwise you're updating it to inher...

class Turrets;
class RHS_UH1Y_US_base
class RHS_UH1Y: RHS_UH1Y_US_base
{
class Turrets: Turrets
{
class MainTurret;
class RightDoorGun;
};
};
class tato_uh1y_base: RHS_UH1Y
{
class Turrets: Turrets
{
class MainTurret: MainTurret
{
weapons[] = {"vtx_wpn_m134"};
magazines[] = {"vtx_2000Rnd_65x39_Belt_Tracer_Red"};
};
class RightDoorGun: RightDoorGun
{
weapons[] = {"vtx_wpn_m134_2nd"};
magazines[] = {"vtx_2000Rnd_65x39_Belt_Tracer_Red"};
};
};
};
class csg12_uh1y: tato_uh1y_base
.....

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:16 PM

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Getting there, but now the Turrets class that you're inheriting from is undefined

Find what class that RHS_UH1Y_US_base's Turrets inherits from

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 12:22 PM

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wintry tartan Yes

I changed my model into a mod and it works perfectly, but I do get this warning:

14:19:45 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgPatches/NPCProvidence.units'.```

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Any way to get rid of it?

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Define units in your CfgPatches

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 12:22 PM

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units[] = {};

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Like so?

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Yep

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 12:23 PM

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Ah, I see

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:23 PM

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Should also get one for weapons

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 12:23 PM

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Do I need to add the attachment to the object?

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The one that I edited?

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Or is it only for new attachments

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:23 PM

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Did you edit the original class or did you make a new one?

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 12:23 PM

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I edited the original

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Seemed easier for my purposes

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:24 PM

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Then no you shouldn't have to change anything

rose haven Oct 14, 2023, 12:24 PM

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Awesome, thank you

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Just trying to make a cool effect for a mission I wanna host with my unit 😄

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:35 PM

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Im looking throught the UH-1Y config, and RHS_UH1Y_US_Base doesnt have any mention of turrets
Only locations i could find turrets, is in the base class definitions:

class CfgVehicles
{
    class Air;
    class Helicopter: Air
    {
        class Turrets;
        class HitPoints
        {
                  //stuff
        };
    };
    class Helicopter_Base_F: Helicopter
    {
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class MainTurret;
        };
        class HitPoints: HitPoints
        {
             //stuff
        };
        class AnimationSources;
        class Eventhandlers;
        class CargoTurret;
        class ViewOptics;
        class Reflectors
        {
            class Right;
        };
    };
    class Heli_Attack_01_base_F: Helicopter_Base_F
    {
        class HitPoints: HitPoints
        {
             //stuff
        };
        class Sounds;
    };
    class Helicopter_Base_H: Helicopter_Base_F
    {
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class CopilotTurret;
        };
        class AnimationSources;
        class Eventhandlers;
        class Viewoptics;
        class HitPoints;
        class Components;
    };
    class Heli_Transport_01_base_F: Helicopter_Base_H
    {
        class Sounds;
        class SoundsExt
        {
            class Sounds;
        };
        class HitPoints: HitPoints
        {
             //stuff
        };
    };
    class Heli_Transport_02_base_F: Helicopter_Base_H{};
    class Heli_Transport_03_base_F: Helicopter_Base_H{};
    class Heli_Light_03_base_F: Helicopter_Base_F
    {
        class ViewPilot;
        class HitPoints: HitPoints
        {
             //stuff
        };
    };
    class HelicopterWreck;```

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and then its mentioned again:

class RHS_UH1Y: RHS_UH1Y_US_base
    {
        //stuff
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class CopilotTurret: MainTurret
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class MainTurret: MainTurret
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class RightDoorGun: MainTurret
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class CargoTurret_01: CargoTurret
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class CargoTurret_02: CargoTurret_01
            {
                //stuff;
            };
            class CargoTurret_03: CargoTurret_01
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class CargoTurret_04: CargoTurret_01
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class CargoTurret_05: CargoTurret_04
            {
                //stuff
            };
            class CargoTurret_06: CargoTurret_04
            {
                //stuff
            };
        };
    };

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:40 PM

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Are you using the config viewer ingame?

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:40 PM

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wintry fox Are you using the config viewer ingame?

yeah

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im using the dev tools mod to find config stuff

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:45 PM

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Go to RHS_UH1Y and find its Turrets class

Click on it and next to the "Parents" line, click the box looking icon

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:48 PM

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class CfgVehicles {
class All {};
class AllVehicles: All {};
class Air: AllVehicles {};
class Helicopter: Air {
class Turrets {};
};
class Helicopter_Base_F: Helicopter {
class Turrets: Turrets {};
};
class Heli_light_03_base_F: Helicopter_Base_F {
class Turrets: Turrets {};
};
class RHS_UH1_Base: Heli_light_03_base_F {};
class RHS_UH1Y: RHS_UH1Y_US_base {
class Turrets: Turrets {};
};
class RHS_UH1Y_base: RHS_UH1_Base {};
class RHS_UH1Y_US_base: RHS_UH1Y_base {};
};

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@wintry fox

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this is what im seeing

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 12:54 PM

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languid aurora class Turrets; class RHS_UH1Y_US_base class RHS_UH1Y: RHS_UH1Y_US_base ...

Alright so go back to your config and inherit back up to Helicopter_Base_F and reference the turrets class inside

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Use the inheritance you got from the advanced dev tools as a reference

languid aurora Oct 14, 2023, 12:57 PM

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wintry fox Alright so go back to your config and inherit back up to `Helicopter_Base_F` and...

got it, so reference turret class once inside Helicopter_Base_F ryt?

wintry fox Oct 14, 2023, 1:00 PM

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Yep