arma3_scripting

[fair drum]

so you're saying pull my refs into the #create method instead of defining them as properties?

[hushed turtle]

I've meant to use _self set ["active_units", []]; in #create rather than array copy when calling createHashMapObject.
But do whatever

[somber harness]

for "_i" from 1 to 3 do { execVM "spawnAgrInfantry.sqf"; };
while { {alive _x} count units east > 4 } do { sleep 2; };


waveCount = waveCount - 1;

if (waveCount > 0) then {
    sleep 20; // Wait before next wave 
    execVM "waveSpawn.sqf";
 } else 
{
        "EveryoneWon" call BIS_fnc_endMissionServer;
}
;```

so, this is my "waveSpawn.sqf" script so far, it generally does work, as in it spawns 3 infantry squads, 1 vehicle, but something i've been figuring out is how i can make it so that 

1) it has 20 seconds between each spawn
2) it doesn't end the mission as soon as the 2nd wave spawns. (waveCount is set to 2 in initServer.sqf)

here's what i tried:

sleep 20 was set before the ifelse loop, after the whiledo also, but it didn't really work out. I decided to try putting where it is now as it is taking place after the condition is met for wavecount to be above 0, so it waits 20 seconds after, and then the script executes itself. however, it does it instantly pretty much. is there something wrong with how i wrote it?

when it comes to the victory condition in the else statement, i want it to happen after all of the waves have been spawned, and if it counts less than 4 east units in a specific trigger area (lets say it's called "DefenseZone") as well. will i just need to create a separate script that needs to be executed for it?

I attempted this on a separate script, however I struggle to find enough information on counting or enough knowledge on it. I tried for example `{alive _x} count (units east inAreaArray defenseZone) < 4` and I'm aware this is incorrect but I struggle with understanding how exactly to utilize variables and values with this. As far as I'm aware, this is like putting 2 statements together, and (units east inAreaArray "defenseZone") is the value here. Do I have set 2 count statements to == each other and set a specific number? Maybe like `{alive 3} count units east == count units inAreaArray "defenseZone"`?

[somber harness]

Or is it still nonsensical here

(huge delay btwn 2 messages because i been testing things out)

[meager granite]

{alive _x} count (units east inAreaArray defenseZone) < 4 looks correct

Since you're executing everything in scheduled environment, your while check happens before your spawnAgr* scripts finish spawning

So your condition meets before you have stuff spawned

Do you do any waits or sleeps or inifite loops in your spawnAgr* scripts?

[meager granite]

private _script = execVM "spawnAgrVehicle.sqf"; waitUntil {scriptDone _script};
for "_i" from 1 to 3 do {
    private _script = execVM "spawnAgrInfantry.sqf"; waitUntil {scriptDone _script};
};
while { {alive _x} count units east > 4 } do { sleep 2; };

If not, you can try this

Or even avoid spawning separate threads so all your scripts are within same thread:

call compileScript ["spawnAgrVehicle.sqf"];
for "_i" from 1 to 3 do {
    call compileScript ["spawnAgrInfantry.sqf"];
};
while { {alive _x} count units east > 4 } do { sleep 2; };

while { {alive _x} count (units east inAreaArray defenseZone) > 4 } do { sleep 2; };
```This condition should also work

With defenseZone being trigger with area where your units are

[somber harness]

My bad but I'm not sure I entirely get this

ah wait

I see now

[meager granite]

execVM spawns a separate script thread in scheduled environment

[somber harness]

I didn't let it run long enough for both to spawn

[meager granite]

and these threads execute alongside your main one with no guaranteed order

So your while condition starts checking even before your spawning scripts/thread actually spawn anything

[somber harness]

Ahh I see, tysm

[meager granite]

scriptDone checks if script has finished, reached its end. In call version of it it simply branches your main thread into that script so its all within same thread and your while never starts checking before all spawn scripts are done.

[somber harness]

would I not want the while statement to also be a part of the same thread as well? I'm a little confused as to why I'm not including it mainly as afaik keeping things on the same thread makes it sequential, may be wrong though.

[meager granite]

It is sequential in both of my examples, they basically do the same thing, ensure while loop check happens only after scripts are done

In first example separate new threads are spawned and main thread waits until new threads are done

In second example main thread simply calls the functions made out of script files so its all one single continuous thread

[somber harness]

Ohhhh

Alright I see

[somber harness]

uh so, I tried this and I just had like hundreds of vehicles blow up and fly everywhere

I'll try the other one

I have a feeling it could be the sqf I made, I'll show it

[meager granite]

What's in your spawning scripts?

[somber harness]

_destination = "defensArea";
_enemCarType = selectRandom ["O_MRAP_02_hmg_F","O_LSV_02_AT_F","O_LSV_02_armed_F"];

_enemVeh = _enemCarType createVehicle getMarkerPos _stMarker;
_enemVeh setDir markerDir _stMarker;

_crew = createVehicleCrew _enemVeh;
_wayp = _crew addWaypoint [markerPos _destination,0];

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////```
spawnAgrVehicle

```_stMarker = selectRandom ["infSpawn_1","infSpawn_2","infSpawn_3"];
_destination = "defensArea";
_enemInf = createGroup east; 
_enemInfArray = [
    "O_Soldier_SL_F", 
    "O_Soldier_F", 
    "O_Soldier_LAT_F", 
    "O_soldier_M_F", 
    "O_Soldier_TL_F", 
    "O_Soldier_AR_F", 
    "O_Soldier_A_F", 
    "O_medic_F"
];

{_enemInf createUnit [_x, getMarkerPos _stMarker, [], 0, "NONE"];} forEach _enemInfArray;


// "SAD" stands for "Search and Destroy" waypoint type
_wayp = _enemInf addWaypoint [getMarkerPos _destination,0];
_wayp setWaypointType "SAD";```

spawnAgrInfantry

[meager granite]

Post them too

What is your current script that resulted in lots of vehicles?

[somber harness]

for "_i" from 1 to 3 do {
    waitUntil {scriptDone execVM "spawnAgrInfantry.sqf"};
};
while { {alive _x} count units east > 4 } do { sleep 2; };

waveCount = waveCount - 1;
if (waveCount > 0) then {
    sleep 20;
    execVM "waveSpawn.sqf";
 } else 
{
        execVM "waveEndMission.sqf";
}
;```

waveSpawn

Here's the script I was also struggling with finishing the mission on due to counting

```if ({alive _x} count (units east inAreaArray defenseZone) < 4) then
{
    "EveryoneWon" call BIS_fnc_endMissionServer;
}

waveEndMission

[meager granite]

Its a single if check, if it fails once your mission never ends

[somber harness]

oh

[meager granite]

Oops, I messed up my waitUntil/scriptDone script

[somber harness]

gotta do while?

[meager granite]

Let me fix it

Check my script bits above

[meager granite]

I don't think you need any conditions at all as you already do count checks in main thread

[somber harness]

would it not just end the mission right as the 2nd wave spawns though?

[meager granite]

It shouldn't as you deduct waveCount after your main thread's while check

[somber harness]

ohh so the issue was due to the fact it was checking while since the beginning

[meager granite]

call compileScript ["spawnAgrVehicle.sqf"];
for "_i" from 1 to 3 do {
    call compileScript ["spawnAgrInfantry.sqf"];
};
while { {alive _x} count (units east inAreaArray defenseZone) > 4 } do { sleep 2; };

waveCount = waveCount - 1;
if (waveCount > 0) then {
    sleep 20; // Wait before next wave 
    execVM "waveSpawn.sqf";
} else {
    "EveryoneWon" call BIS_fnc_endMissionServer;
};

[somber harness]

oh there we go

holy crap man you're a lifesaver 😭 tysm!!!

so I assume when it comes to having scripts run before a check I need to run call compileScript so it's sequential?

[meager granite]

Yes

You can do it with scriptDone and execVM too, I just messed it up in original script bit

[somber harness]

just don't do waitUntil?

[meager granite]

Fixed script here: #arma3_scripting message

[somber harness]

Oh sweet, thank you

I'll try that

Gotta make sure, I'll be hosting a mission with my scripts for friends

I won't have to go like re-script everything specifically for MP will I?

I'm not exactly sure what requires using global scripts and local

[meager granite]

Make sure its only executed on server

So it does all the spawning and checking

[somber harness]

My bad if it’s an obvious thing, how do I make sure of that?

[hushed turtle]

From where are you executing the code?

[meager granite]

Yeah, where do you call your script from?

[somber harness]

i was calling it on initServer.sqf but later I’d do it from triggers

ohh isn’t there a server only option or smth on triggers

[meager granite]

There is

[hushed turtle]

There is server only option on triggers

[meager granite]

Otherwise just wrap your first call with isServer check

[thin inlet]

Hello guys. Besides learning with GPT. What are good ways to learn scripting without any coding knowledge at all.
Im a noob but very creative

[pallid palm]

dont use ChatGPT

[warm hedge]

Forget ChatGPT and ask us

[pallid palm]

ChatGPT will fuck you all up

like POLPOX said my ChatGPT is the guys in Discord

[thin inlet]

But I really need a textual guide to learn, it's important for me to read so I can memorize, but thank you.

[pallid palm]

@hushed turtle i PM-ed you

[warm hedge]

There is a textural guide. It's called #arma3_scripting

[thin inlet]

I don't even know what I don't know to know what I should know.

[hallow mortar]

The wiki has a lot of useful information. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Introduction_to_Arma_Scripting
Some things you don't really need scripting for at all. The Editor provides a lot of tools for doing things without actually writing any code.
There are some tutorials on Youtube but I would be very cautious about them. Literally anyone can poop out a video and there's absolutely no guarantee they know what they're doing. It's a regular thing for people to turn up with awful code and go "but I saw it on Youtube, and that means it's right!"

Generally I'd suggest picking an objective (not too ambitious) and trying to find out how to make that thing happen. It's difficult to start with "I want to learn all of scripting first". It's better to have a task to guide you.

[thin inlet]

Thank you.

[thin inlet]

Yes, that's actually what I want to do and how to learn it efficiently. WIth a vision and a task you get more focus while doing so.

[lyric gulch]

I'm trying to setup "Same SR frequency for side" in TFAR global settings but my radio just comes up blank.

Second one is my global settings

when I set "TFAR_SameSRFrequenciesForSide = true;" it just makes my radio blank, no channel no frequency

[somber harness]

That’s what I’ve been doing. Trust me, after you get into it a little bit, at least for me personally it’s exponential

Not too long ago I was still learning just counting, in just one day I just learned how to write basic scripts and spawns and waves

It just adds up as you know more and can understand more

[somber harness]

I see, thank you very much. (and Jouklik too)

[ornate whale]

Is it possible to assign (or pass) a function name to a variable and then call it (like a callback function)?

_nextFunction = TAG_fnc_someFunction;
[] call _nextFunction;

Thanks.

[tulip ridge]

Yes

A function is just a global variable assigned to code

[ornate whale]

Thanks.

[lean kernel]

Hi, I want to share my new script, which allows AI units to search for ammo and loot bodies when they run out of ammo. 😄
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3506082227

[minor viper]

Does addAction need to be local for players?

[stable dune]

Yes.

[minor viper]

_paratroopers = crew _xian;
_pilot = driver _xian;
private _index = _paratroopers find _pilot;
if (_index != -1) then
{
    _paratroopers deleteAt _index;
};

{
    _actionID = _x addAction
    [ 
        "Open Parachute", 
        { 
            params ["_target", "_caller", "_actionID", "_arguments"]; 
            private _pos = getPosASL _caller; 
            private _parachute = createVehicle ["Steerable_Parachute_F", [0,0,0]]; 
            _parachute setPosASL _pos; 
            _parachute setDir (getDir _caller); 
            _caller moveInAny _parachute; 
            _caller removeAction _actionID;
        }, 
        nil, 
        0, 
        true, 
        true, 
        "", 
        toString 
        { 
            isNull objectParent _this && 
            { 
                (getPos _this) # 2 >= 5 
            } 
        }, 
        -1, 
        false, 
        "", 
        "" 
    ];
} forEach _paratroopers;

Got an op in two hours and just discovered on the dedicated server that only the first player gets a parachute

How can I localise this addAction?

[stable dune]

You can use remote exec your add action on every client where unit is local and is player.

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/remoteExec

[minor viper]

Yeah so I've used remoteExec before but how would you format it for something with 10 parameters like addAction?

[faint burrow]

I would use a function.

[stable dune]

And
Use getPosATL rather than getPos when check altitude (like you get/set with ATL)

[stable dune]

Yeah, better solution.

[faint burrow]

In this case getPos is better.

[minor viper]

Not my code, I got it from someone way cleverer than me on this channel

[faint burrow]

The same as for other cases.

[minor viper]

so like create a new .sqf with this addAction in and then _x remoteExec ["parachuteActionFunction.sqf", _x]?

[faint burrow]

The first is correct, the last isn't.

[minor viper]

which bit isn't correct sorry?

[faint burrow]

remoteExec doesn't accept file names.

[minor viper]

ah okay, how do you format it do pass the player as a parameter and execute the script then?

[faint burrow]

As I wrote, the same as for other cases:

{
    [_x, _actionParams] remoteExec ["addAction", _x];
} forEach (_paratroopers select { isPlayer _x });

[minor viper]

so I just need to add

_actionParams = 
[ 
    "Open Parachute", 
    { 
        params ["_target", "_caller", "_actionID", "_arguments"]; 
        private _pos = getPosASL _caller; 
        private _parachute = createVehicle ["Steerable_Parachute_F", [0,0,0]]; 
        _parachute setPosASL _pos; 
        _parachute setDir (getDir _caller); 
        _caller moveInAny _parachute; 
        _caller removeAction _actionID;
    }, 
    nil, 
    0, 
    true, 
    true, 
    "", 
    toString 
    { 
        isNull objectParent _this && 
        { 
            (getPos _this) # 2 >= 5 
        } 
    }, 
    -1, 
    false, 
    "", 
    "" 
];

[faint burrow]

Yes you can do that.

[errant iron]

i think that would make the action appear when you look at someone else too

[faint burrow]

addAction has local effect.

[errant iron]

yeah, local effect, global argument

[faint burrow]

And?

We are talking about command effect, not argument locality.

[errant iron]

well i guess the condition would make it unlikely, but given this execution, you'd see Open Parachute from looking at another player if they satisfied the condition

wait, ah nevermind i missed the target you wrote there

ignore me 🙃

[faint burrow]

Exactly.

[hallow mortar]

In terms of remoteExec, addAction doesn't have 10 parameters. It only has 2. The left argument, and the right argument.

_object addAction _parameters;
_left command _right;
[_left, _right] remoteExec ["command"];
[_object, _parameters] remoteExec ["addAction"];```

[ornate whale]

Is it possible to pass a private array variable as a reference to a function (different scope), and still be able to change the original array within that function, not just a copy?

private _globalArrayVar = [1,2,3];
_globalArrayVar call TAG_fnc_reverseOrder;

Thanks

[proven charm]

yes because its passed by reference

[ornate whale]

But when I use a param or params command inside the fnc, it is converted to value or is it still a reference?

[proven charm]

it should be still reference

[ornate whale]

OK, thanks, I think I got it.

[stable dune]

I need to copy this and save it, so it's a simple and readable example of remoteExec.

[hushed turtle]

_this variable inside function is gonna be reference to the same array as _globalArrayVar, but variables created by params? I doubt it.

Have you tested it before?

[last cave]

In the logs of the dedicated server, I often began to notice that these kinds of messages appear.

20:24:24 Road not found - (9117.232422, 18.814486, 11945.744141)
20:27:32 Road not found - (9117.232422, 18.814486, 11945.744141)
20:27:39 Road not found - (9117.232422, 18.814486, 11945.744141)

I checked the position (ScreenShot)

player setposworld [9117.232422, 11945.744141, 18.814486]

I have a suspicion that the nearRoads script command is giving an error.

[proven charm]

yes i did, so i know it works 🙂

_arr = [1,2,3];

[_arr] call 
{
params ["_a"];

_a pushback 777;
};

hint str _arr;
```  prints [1,2,3,777]

[hushed turtle]

Yes that's true, but look again what the dude is doing. If he wants to edit his array he needs to do it like _this set [0,100]. You are passing array in array. He just passes array of numbers.

[proven charm]

not sure what we are talking about here but if you pass array like this: _arr call then the first element of _arr goes to the _a (so not passing the whole array)

[hushed turtle]

It gets passed into _this variable, that's where params is taking variables from

[proven charm]

ofc

[hushed turtle]

private _fnc_test = {
    
    params["_first","_second"];
        
    _this set [ 0, 100 ];
    _second = 200;
    systemChat ("In call: " + str _this);
    systemChat ("_first: " + str _first);
    systemChat ("_second: " + str _second);    
};

private _numbers = [0,0];
_numbers call _fnc_test;

systemChat ("After call: " + str _numbers);

Prints:
In call: [100,0]
_first: 0
_second: 200
After call: [100,0]

[ornate whale]

Yeah, those params declared private vars are taking the values of the array, although, if the _first input was an array, it would probably be still a referrence. Thanks for your reply.

[hushed turtle]

Yes #arma3_scripting message

[old owl]

I can't see the attached changelog in this wiki post https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/allVariables since bistudio has been down, but is there any reason why we can't use profileNamespace or uiNamespace in multiplayer? I understand those variables could be set from other servers and they can't be implicitly trusted but it would be very helpful from a cheater prevention standpoint if server owners could still check these.

[hallow mortar]

uiNamespace typically contains variables that are extremely machine-specific and can't really be transferred over network in a useful way (i.e. UI control references).
profileNamespace can contain a lot of stuff; it's not mission-specific or server-specific and a lot of things store data in it. Exposing the entire contents with allVariables could cause issues with the amount of data to be transferred over the network, and it may be a security/privacy issue.
It's only using allVariables with them that's disabled in MP. If you need to check a specific variable, you can still do that with getVariable.

[hallow mortar]

Historical changelogs are also available here: https://dev.arma3.com/spotrep I don't have time to go digging right now, but 1.40 will be in there.

[thin fox]

are you using this fnc? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_addRespawnPosition

you can just teleport the entities of that group to the new position when they respawn

make the respawn_west your "base respawn" and then you teleport the rest of your guys where you need them

[tawdry stump]

Hello, Im not sure if this has already been discussed before but is it possible to add a custom inventory item for a mission using scripts? or would it need to become a mod? Currently working on a mission

[granite sky]

Has to be a mod. Config only.

[old owl]

From my understanding allVariables used to work for those namespaces in previous versions. I do hear the security and privacy issues though. I do still think in spite of those though we could see a net benefit if we were able to use allVariables on those namespaces

[tawdry stump]

Cheers

[old owl]

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of cheat devs were using the uiNamespace and profileNamespace to avoid detection

[idle violet]

            idc = 14563;
            text = "Entrar no Discord";
            x = safeZoneX + safeZoneW * 0.22;
            y = safeZoneY + safeZoneH * 0.56;
            w = safeZoneW * 0.36;
            h = 0.04;
            onButtonClick = "openURL 'https://discord.gg/HWh4sqRQ5E';";
        };```

Would this be the correct way to add a clickable discord link? That directs the player to the group when clicked?

[snow viper]

i made a faction with a loadout randomizer script that relies on setUnitLoadout in a script that is run from the unit init, it works perfectly locally but not in multiplayer (all inventory items are missing while the rest of the loadout works fine), does anyone know why that could be?

[granite sky]

There's an issue floating around about calling setUnitLoadout during weapon switching but I haven't seem enough detail on that to know if it's related.

[snow viper]

OK ill implement that check from the wiki

[somber harness]

will spawning planes in the air on getMarkerPos work on markers I put into the air in the 3d editor (if i can do that, not at the pc rn cant check)?

[snow viper]

i simply copy pasted this from the wiki and replaced player with the proper unit variable, but i get this error?

[warm hedge]

It is not an error. It is just the highligher is not recognizing 2.20 command

[snow viper]

ohh ok thank you

btw should i do remote exec for this command?

even though its supposed to be global?

[warm hedge]

remoteExec what?

[snow viper]

setUnitLoadout

[warm hedge]

It is GA GE so no

[snow viper]

ok thank you

[snow viper]

do you think it might be the weapon reaload thing causing this @warm hedge or do you think it could be something else?

[warm hedge]

#arma3_branch_changelog message
You may try profiling

[snow viper]

that looks scary 😮 but good to know its being worked on

my script runs from the unit init, so i can imagine that is what might be happening

[simple lion]

can someone help me how to make a laser marker that shows in map when you open your weapons laser in arma 3

?

[fair drum]

what are you trying to do?

at that point, I'd probably just use my own loop rather than a trigger

[] spawn {
    waitUntil {
        private _area = [getPostATL _vehicle, 10, 10, 0, false, -1]; // [center, a, b, angle, isRect, height]
        _monster inArea _area;
    };

    // Do something
};

add sleeps if you want to slow down the waitUntil

[somber harness]

lol just had the funniest bug so far. i was using my spawn script, and set it to spawngroup east, and put an array of independent units. the commander was fragging his entire squad lol on all spawns

[elder veldt]

Hello, I am trying to recode the laser system on the khot server. I currently have something like this. It does not work on vehicles and frankly I do not even know how I did it.

lazermode = false;

player addAction ["Lazer Marker Aç/Kapat", {
    lazermode = !lazermode;
    hint format ["Lazer marker %1", if (lazermode) then {"AKTİF"} else {"KAPALI"}];
}];

[] spawn {
    private _markerName = "lazermark";

    while {true} do {
        sleep 0.05;

        if (lazermode) then {
            private _unit = player;
            private _startPos = eyePos _unit;
            private _dir = _unit weaponDirection (currentWeapon _unit);
            private _endPos = _startPos vectorAdd (_dir vectorMultiply 1000);

            private _hit = lineIntersectsSurfaces [_startPos, _endPos, _unit];

            if (count _hit > 0) then {
                private _hitPos = (_hit select 0) select 0;
                _hitPos set [2, 0];

                if (markerType _markerName == "") then {
                    createMarker [_markerName, _hitPos];
                    _markerName setMarkerShape "ICON";
                    _markerName setMarkerType "mil_dot";
                    _markerName setMarkerColor "ColorRed";
                    _markerName setMarkerText name player;
                } else {
                    _markerName setMarkerPos _hitPos;
                    _markerName setMarkerText name player;
                };
            };
        } else {
            if (markerType _markerName != "") then {
                deleteMarker _markerName;
            };
        };
    };
};

[proven charm]

is that AI generated code? i think you need to use https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/lineIntersectsObjs instead for vehicles

[simple lion]

yea

its aı generated

but we dont know this language

[elder veldt]

Okey but howw it to hard 😭

[proven charm]

my hunch was right then 🙂

[drifting badge]

weird that the AI has such issues with ARMA3 scripts

[simple lion]

help us

[proven charm]

you could ask someone to write the code for you.... (but no quarantees anyone will)

[simple lion]

ai cant make arma 3 scripts ai is too much idiot for arma 3 i think

[elder veldt]

ye i ask act but no one say anything about it

[drifting badge]

might be because there are so many scripts out there and a lot of them are probably not working and the AI is not able to differentiate - because in other areas it does really, really well. It is a shame somehow as it would be a tremendous help if it actually could provide working scripts

[proven charm]

I have never seen working AI code posted in here

[simple lion]

this is ai generated and working

[elder veldt]

If anyone found out what we did to make it work, I would be tried for violence against AI.

In short, if anyone can help us with this issue, I would be very grateful. (I don't like to leave favors unreturned, maybe I'll send a wheel of cheese)

[hallow mortar]

Generative AI (LLMs) do not understand the actual meaning of things, why or how the code works. They just generate sequences of words that are mathematically plausible based on the dataset. For languages with a lot of complete examples of working code, this turns out "okay" (some of the time). SQF does not have a large dataset of working code - and also, SQF depends heavily on knowing how the game works (or doesn't), which is impossible for an LLM.
If you got working code out of an LLM, you're literally just lucky, and there's a strong chance it's not good code.

[drifting badge]

I wonder if the following is possible (bit complicated): I have a group of soldiers put down in the Editor that are "connected" to their leader via the "bis_fnc_attachtorelative" function (to force them to stay where they are, which works perfectly for what I need). But I wonder if it is possible if one of them dies that one could spawn a new soldier taking the place of the one that died (i.e. using the same attachedto info).

Would also be better if I could generate/spawn an entire squad linked like that (so I do not have to place every single one of those special cases in the Editor). Hope that makes sense.

[hallow mortar]

Yes, that's quite possible. createUnit, a few sets of relative positions or some light vector maths, attachTo, and an event handler.
Do you actually need attachTo, though? If the group as a whole is not moving, it would be preferable to just disable the AI's pathing or movement.

[proven charm]

if you want to stop ai moving use
MyUnit disableAI "MOVE"; instead, attaching AI doesnt sound like a good idea

if id code this I would give every soldier Killed EH and when they are killed create new unit in the eH. though not exactly sure what do you want

[drifting badge]

Yup I did try it with the disableAI "move/path" actually, but this did not do the trick in this case as the AI hates close formations and I also need them to be actually able to move off to adjust their heading or close some distances to the player and his units. It is a bit rigid but that can not be helped. Their moving though is also "forced" so they do not run around like mad chickens.

[open nest]

guys can you help me pls??

Hello, I am a new player. How can I play ARMA online?

[drifting badge]

I am sure you would laugh out loud of how my current "test" setup is, working with triggers and not really calling "outside" scripts. My goal is to simulate line formation fighting (hence the force the ai to stay put), and so far I have been able to get a few things done (but there is still a lot of work to do and I apparently suck at scripting and it takes me ages to do even simple things lol)

[hallow mortar]

It's quite easy, but not a scripting problem. Try #arma3_questions or #reforger_questions

[open nest]

tnx brother .

[hallow mortar]

Is it possible for the leader to die as well? This becomes slightly more annoying if so, because then you have to transfer all the other units to the new replacement leader

[pallid palm]

doStop this; - in the init of a soldier should do the trick

[drifting badge]

that I noticed quickly, so for now I did set it so the leader can only die if the rest of the squad is dead (to avoid all that hassle);

btw this reminds me: can one querry for "panic"? (i.e. that an AI panics and decides to flee)? did look around but could not find an eventhandler to match this

[ivory lake]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/fleeing
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Fleeing

[drifting badge]

thanks Kerc, god I must be getting blind with age! (or I am just trying to do too many things at once)

[ivory lake]

group eventhandlers are kinda new (new by arma 3 standards, anyway, so a couple years old lol) so its easy to miss them

[hallow mortar]

Basic implementation specifically for line formation. Not tested in-game so beware typos. I am aware I'm probably just taking the first shot in a round of code golf so be prepared for corrections from others. https://pastebin.com/xkWKLTSs

[hallow mortar]

yeah see there's a typo already. Line 27, _offset should be _unitOffset

[drifting badge]

Thanks mate, will have a look how you did things and compare it to what I cobbled together so far (am pretty sure your's will be a million lightyears ahead of what I have). Will get back to you guys when I have the time to test.

[thin fox]

so, explain the idea further, I'm doing a CAS Menu and I had to make a way to detect laser if I want to mark targets

[hallow mortar]

also the offset maths is wrong. The intention is alternating positive/negative offsets to fill out the line on each side of the centre unit, but because the offset is increased by each unit, not just by units on the same side, the gaps get bigger when they shouldn't

and the offset for lines other than the first isn't being applied properly. And those lines will have a gap in line with the parent unit.
Probably should just ask someone good at maths to do this

And the horizontal offset is being applied to the Z value, not the X value 🙃

[hallow mortar]

This version has a number of fixes. https://pastebin.com/7AiyVy6C
It's still not necessarily perfect, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a more graceful way to do this. (Attaching units together to make them move in formation is not graceful in general, though...)

[snow viper]

I found out the reason my loadout randomizer script doesn't work is the locality of the command addMagazines, but i saw there is only addMagazineGlobal not addMagazinesGlobal, any suggestions here? I just have an array like this and am trying to globally add it to AI units:

{
   {"magClass", 3}, {"magClass", 1}, ...
};

[still forum]

you cannot, only via button click

indeed. It takes the default values by reference. So all your objects are referring to the same underlying Array.
The fix is to set units in #create, won't be able to fix that before 2.22

[snow viper]

do i really have to make a double for loop to add every magazine globally by itself? It seems so terribly inefficient

[still forum]

its a bit annoying to always copy the array for safety. Because you only need the copy if you actually end up editing it :/
Bit of a waste of performance/memory, for something people could handle in constructor, I'll probably leave it the way it is

[hushed turtle]

Little later we figured out the issue was objects sharing same units array. For a while I believed it somehow created just one object instance, because same array was used to create both of them

[meager granite]

Why do you randomize remote units though?

But yeah, just run a loop with addMagazineGlobal

[hallow mortar]

Use https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addMagazines, it is a GA/GE command

[snow viper]

its a little niche thing, its a faction made especially for small unit COOP with efficient unit spawning. Made a faction based on a large amount of items from a mod, the result is actually really satisfying 😄 here is a picture. A custom function called from the unit init, with faction and role abreviation (For example "ftl" or "gl") looks up array data in the arma Config and selects weighted random items, and some other things based on parameters. Some fun things in there like chance for primary, secondary, launcher, vest, helmet, facewear too. And a couple "pass through" functions for more specific loadouts. It results in consistent roles but with random equipment and weapons from predefined pools 😄

the above you see 5 sets of all roles in the faction. As you see they have very nice degree of randomization, but AA launcher guy always has an AA launcher, MG always has an MG and so on

[meager granite]

What unit init? CfgVehicles config? Inits are global so each client is gonna run your randomization code

[snow viper]

These guys are all the same "Rifleman Light AT" role 😄

[snow viper]

in the CfgVehicles entry for the unit

What is the best way or place to call this script on the newly created unit? Is it not that?

[hallow mortar]

You can put a locality check in the function so it'll immediately exit on every client except the unit's owner

[snow viper]

ahh thats the if (!isServer) stuff i think ive seen before, right?

something like that

[meager granite]

Or better call local

[hallow mortar]

if !(local _unit) exitWith{};```

[snow viper]

okay very nice, i will do that for sure

but i am not sure if this would address the issue with addMagazines not working in multiplayer, right?

[hallow mortar]

addMagazines does work in multiplayer

[snow viper]

The script works very well in local, ive tested it in every possible situation, the data fed to addMagazines is ALWAYS correct. setUnitLoadout works perfectly too, but then the step afterwards thats supposed to add the magazines does not seem to work only when hosted multiplayer

any idea why that might happen?

[proven charm]

are you running dedi?

[snow viper]

yes

thats only when i discovered the problem. When "testing solo" in editor, hosting local server from the game, the scripts work flawless

So then i was excited to play with my buddies only to find out that the loadouts generated by the script had completely empty inventories. These commands seem to not do what they are supposed to, in multiplayer. Or at least in my situation

addMagazines, addItemToBackpack, addItemToVest, addItemToUniform

[proven charm]

yeah you must check the commands argument and effect to use them properly. some commands needs to be run on client while others on server

[stable dune]

addMagazines, addItemToBackpack, addItemToVest, addItemToUniform
All these have Global Args and Global Effect,
So those should work when you execute event like Sa-Mantra and NikkoTJ said

if !(local unit) exitWith {};
//do stuff

or

if (local unit) {
// do stuff
}

[proven charm]

must be some other commands then or the way the scripts are executed

[snow viper]

thanks guys, gonna try this now

just added if !(local _unit) exitWith {}; to the top of my script right below the parameters

_unit being the parameter that refers to the unit, it was already there

that should do it ?

[proven charm]

that wont do it because you are just denying the code to run. what you need is more of running the appropriate code for each player

[snow viper]

i have no idea what that means, sorry im very new to arma script

the only way i could find to do dynamic loadout stuff inside a faction was by calling a script from the init= field of the CfgVehicles entry for the unit

what is the better way to do it ?

also i just tried it, now it has the inventory but not the uniform etc 😄

basically exact reversal from my previous problem

[proven charm]

i mean your codes needs to be run at proper place

init maybe ok

[hallow mortar]

CfgVehicles init with a locality check is a correct way of doing it

I believe we've already established that other code in the same function is working correctly

[scenic shard]

Is there a way to hide remote controlled stuff, like UAVs etc from the terminal?

I would like to have 2 operators from the same side but they should only see specific UAVs from the list.

[hallow mortar]

There is https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableUAVConnectability.
Note that it is actually specific to the terminal, not to the unit, so if players have some way of getting new terminals, you need to monitor and update over time to stop them bypassing it.
There is also locking the UAV, but locking commands are global, so it's a huge hassle to make it work.
Other than that there's not really any good solution, unfortunately.

[fair drum]

I might be the only one that uses hashobjects, but I think it would be worth changing.

[hushed turtle]

What If you want your object to reference something by default?

[fair drum]

I would probably pass that to the constructor

[open marsh]

hi guys im trying to make ai sniper, with m107, fire with 5 seconds breaks, between each shot, but unfortunately hes successively semi auto firing, what do i need?

[fair drum]

Pastebin if it's long, hard to view on phone without downloading the file.

[open marsh]

im trying to mimick .50 cal bolt action rifle behavior cuz i simply cant find any .50 cal bolt action rifle mod , for cup

[fair drum]

But I bet you didn't disable the correct AI stuff

[open marsh]

https://pastebin.com/9mQGqA1L

Here is the pastebin

[proven charm]

check out https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/forceWeaponFire if you havent already

[open marsh]

yeah im using that and doing sleep 5; but hes still firing very fast

[proven charm]

oh sorry i thought you wanted to get rid of auto fire. well maybe you can disable the AI that slows him down 🙂

[open marsh]

completely disable it?

[fair drum]

Yeah you are only disabling path. You need to disable targeting, autotarget, autocombat

Or any combination. Can't test atm

I saw they added fire weapon to the disable list in 2.18 as well

[open marsh]

hmm i added it and he still fires quick

// Configure AI behavior
_sniper disableAI "PATH";
_sniper disableAI "TARGET";
_sniper disableAI "AUTOTARGET";
_sniper disableAI "AUTOCOMBAT";
_sniper setCombatMode "RED";
_sniper setBehaviour "COMBAT";

[fair drum]

Try turning him to hold fire. You are already controlling when he shoots.

Can you log when you tell it to fire, vs when the AI is doing the firing?

[scenic shard]

thanks, i guess there would be a issue if players traded terminals as well?

I don't have any arsenal or similar, so i would have to check on respawn and find some event for if the terminal slot changes, or at least something that covers that as well

[hallow mortar]

There is a SlotItemChanged EH

[scenic shard]

perfect! that should work then. thanks again 🙂

[open marsh]

it seems likei had to add something in to the fired event handler?

[open marsh]

Without dotarget he cant aim properly, with dotarget he fires successively, even when i have

    // Configure AI behavior
    _sniper disableAI "PATH";
    _sniper disableAI "TARGET";
    _sniper disableAI "AUTOTARGET";
    _sniper disableAI "AUTOCOMBAT";
    _sniper disableAI "FSM";
    _sniper disableAI "AIMINGERROR";
    _sniper disableAI "WEAPONAIM";
    _sniper disableAI "COVER";
    _sniper disableAI "SUPPRESSION";
    _sniper setCombatMode "RED";
    _sniper setBehaviour "COMBAT";```

[granite sky]

If you just want to block the guy from firing for 5 seconds then there's disableAI "FIREWEAPON" since 2.18

[open marsh]

okay and then i renable it

wow this worked!

            if (!isNull _currentTarget && alive _currentTarget) then {
                // Debug message
                if (VILLAGE_SNIPER_DEBUG) then {
                    systemChat format ["Sniper targeting %1 at %2m", name _currentTarget, round(_unit distance _currentTarget)];
                };
                
                // Aim at target
                _unit doTarget _currentTarget;
                _unit doWatch _currentTarget;
                
                // Wait a moment for aiming
                sleep 1;
                
                // Fire the weapon
                // _unit forceWeaponFire [primaryWeapon _unit, "Single"];
                _unit disableAI "FIREWEAPON";
                // Wait 5 seconds between shots
                sleep 5;
                _unit enableAI "FIREWEAPON";
                
                if (VILLAGE_SNIPER_DEBUG) then {
                    systemChat "Sniper ready for next shot";
                };
            } else {
                // No targets found, wait and try again
                if (VILLAGE_SNIPER_DEBUG) then {
                    systemChat "Sniper searching for targets...";
                };
                sleep 3;
            };
        };```

i need to make it more structured

and put it in eventhandler

[granite sky]

Oh, if you're using forceWeaponFire then blinding the guy might be better.

(disableAI "CHECKVISIBLE")

[open marsh]

i commented that out

now im using dotarget

[granite sky]

ok

[open marsh]

forceweaponfire is not aiming at target like dotarget

[granite sky]

Yeah, if you want him to actually shoot at people then the 5-second FIREWEAPON loop is good.

[snow viper]

i now have this in the unit init in cfgvehicles

init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then 
{
  [_this select 0, ""bb_fac_kla_civarmed"", ""sl""] call BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout;
};"

on a single line, but it's not working in local testing

can i not make a faction that works both locally and dedicated?

it has to be one or the other?

[granite sky]

Is this the isSwitchingWeapon problem?

[snow viper]

i didnt have my thinking hat on last night, the setUnitLoadout part of the script works perfectly fine, it's the adding of magazines and items in a different way after that which fails

[snow viper]

see here

after the setUnitLoadout part of the script, two arrays are known with the extra inventory items and magazines that should be added to the unit, they are added with addMagazines and addItemToUniform/Vest/Backpack in a forEach

but that doesnt seem to work on dedicated server only

[snow viper]

so just earlier this was suggested as fix,

[granite sky]

addMagazines works in general. I use it routinely in Antistasi.

We don't do anything in init handlers though.

If you have a replicable issue then boil it down until it's clear exactly what the problem is.

[snow viper]

ill recap once more what my issue is, its fully consistent and replicable:

• script is passed 3 parameters, the unit, the faction and side
• script grabs data from config based on parameters and sets up a unitLoadout array
• while doing that, the arrays _li_items and _li_magazines are filled with {"className". #} # being int amount
• unitLoadout is set on the unit with setUnitLoadout
  ⚠️ all above steps work perfectly in both local and dedicated
• items are added to available container space (addItemToUniform, addItemToVest, addItemToBackpack)
• magazines are added with addMagazines
  ⚠️ these last two only work when hosted local, and not when dedicated

[snow viper]

so then i got this suggestion, and it just results in nothing happening at all at least when hosting local, about to test on dedi now

here is how i implemented the suggestion in CfgVehicles, but its a single line

init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then 
{
  [_this select 0, ""bb_fac_kla_civarmed"", ""sl""] call BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout;
};"

[proven charm]

shouldnt that be just this and not (_this select 0) ?

[granite sky]

Nah, it's this one: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Init

[proven charm]

ah ok

[granite sky]

@snow viper The same addMagazines code works fine from the debug console though?

[snow viper]

this is just getting weirder, i just tested this on dedicated, and it now tells me that a private variable is not declare when it very much is

[granite sky]

usually means that you're setting that variable to a nil value.

[snow viper]

it even works dedicated now

[snow viper]

but now the setUnitLoadout no longer works due to this

ive tested the script fully, everything is working

there is no bad data being passed

[snow viper]

well, until i introduced this

[granite sky]

Paste code, paste error.

[snow viper]

apearantly my interpretation of this was wrong but i have no clue why, this is all chinese to me

{
    waitUntil {!isSwitchingWeapon _this};
    _this setUnitLoadout _tempLoadout;
};```

can sombody give tips how to fix it ?

[stable dune]

You are only passing unit in args to spawn,
Your _temploadout its not available in spawn because it's local variable.

[_unit,_tempLoadout] spawn {
    params ["_unit","_tempLoadout"];
    waitUntil {!isSwitchingWeapon _unit};
    _unit setUnitLoadout _tempLoadout;
};

[idle violet]

I had this same problem with setUnitLoadout, I solved it by setting a time for verification, what happened to me was that fnc_stripGear was executing after fnc_loadGear, setting the loadout before cleaning

    waitUntil {
        sleep 0.25;
        alive player &&
        !isNull player &&
        !isNull (findDisplay 46) &&
        !(isSwitchingWeapon player)
    };

    diag_log "[loadGear] Aplicando setUnitLoadout...";
    player setUnitLoadout _loadout;

    // Aguarda confirmação de aplicação (ex: uniforme presente)
    waitUntil {
        sleep 0.25;
        uniform player != ""
    };```

[snow viper]

interesting @idle violet thanks for sharing

[snow viper]

thanks

[idle violet]

If you are using stripGear, make sure it is called before setUnitLoadout and it will work, put a waitUntil in your loadout code, so that it is called after the cleanup!

[snow viper]

i'm not actually, i'm setting up fresh units from CfgVehicles, so they spawn without anything to begin with, and should then be given the stuff from the script

[idle violet]

oh sorry, I thought you were calling loadout saved in database like me

[snow viper]

its still always useful to see some examples of t his stuff in different context and what not

but yeah im back to the mystery

[idle violet]

but even so, try to put a delay in its loading to test, it might work

[snow viper]

Ill repost my summary from earlier with newly added insight, got into a new depth of mindfuckery with this just now

ill recap once more what my issue is, its fully consistent and replicable:

• script is passed 3 parameters, the unit, the faction and side
• script grabs data from config based on parameters and sets up a unitLoadout array
• while doing that, the arrays _li_items and _li_magazines are filled with {"className". #} # being int amount
• unitLoadout is set on the unit with setUnitLoadout
  ⚠️ all above steps work perfectly in both local and dedicated
• items are added to available container space (addItemToUniform, addItemToVest, addItemToBackpack)
• magazines are added with addMagazines
  ⚠️ these last two only work when hosted local, and not when dedicated

so then i got this suggestion, and it just results in nothing happening at all at least when hosting local, about to test on dedi now. here is how i implemented the suggestion in CfgVehicles, but its a single line

init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then 
{
  [_this select 0, ""bb_fac_kla_civarmed"", ""sl""] call BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout;
};"

No change in result from the list above

then i got this suggestion, but implemented it wrongly

_unit spawn
{
    waitUntil {!isSwitchingWeapon _this};
    _this setUnitLoadout _tempLoadout;
};

this resulted in the magazines, grenades and items being added but NOT the setUnitLoadout command being set. I added pics of the last two situations below here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386753415144800298/1386760589329694842/image.png?ex=685ae0f1&is=68598f71&hm=758c6e482fe01acfd532aa4ab80ccce9e125274937e8f4eee06cac1def635457&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/105462984087728128/1386753150123511930/image.png?ex=685ada03&is=68598883&hm=ef869c75126bea1ab1afc57d9851173bd7d0d89b51f0a073950c3fec451bb103&

and just to prove the script actually works here is the expected result from local

[stable dune]

You have script to share pastebin or here

[snow viper]

i'll send it to you in DM

ah you don't take DM's prisoner, could you send me one first?

[hallow mortar]

Pastebin and post it here would be better, that way everyone can see it

[fair drum]

Nothing you're going to post in the dm is going to be some new "revelation" of code. Just post it here lol.

[proven charm]

that way we can all laugh if the code is bad 😉 jk

[hushed turtle]

Looks like there is no way to change buildings destroyed state in SQF. Besides settings damage to 1, which switches state to most destroyed model, but no way to get partially destroyed ones without hitting it by something.

Or is there a way?

[fair drum]

Change LOD?

[hushed turtle]

No, buldings switch model when you damage them enough. They usually have couple of different models(like missing parts of walls)

Before switching to most destroyed model

[hallow mortar]

Try setHit or setHitPointDamage

There is an Editor module that can do this, and that will be doing it through SQF somehow. You should be able to find the function that module uses and see how it's done.

[hushed turtle]

There is module, that's true

[fair drum]

The module is wonky, especially for modded maps. Haven't taken the time to redo it/fix it. But go ahead and try it.

[hallow mortar]

The module uses setHitPointDamage

It's hardcoded to a couple of specific hitpoint names, which is why it doesn't work with all buildings. If the building has a more complex damage model...or is just set up inconsistently...the module won't work or won't be able to access all the damage states. But since you're doing your own thing, you can target whatever hitpoints work for your buildings.

[hushed turtle]

How did you find out it which command it uses?

[hallow mortar]

Inspect module in Config Viewer -> function attribute -> open Functions Viewer -> search for that name -> scroll through the function until you find the part that sets damage

[hushed turtle]

Had no idea you can inspect modules like that, thanks

[pallid palm]

lol @proven charm hahahahah, that was funny

[tropic summit]

Is there a way to calculate the PositionRelative of an object from another object's model center? trying to update BIS_fnc_attachToRelative to work with the newer followBoneRotation param but having trouble finding out how to find the proper array to pass. Alternatively, is there a way to just completely omit a parameter of a command?

lol asked the question then immediately found the answer

attachedObj attachTo [baseObj, (baseObj worldToModel (getpos attachedObj))];

[granite sky]

getPos isn't correct for worldToModel (or anything much, really)

baseObj worldToModel ASLtoAGL getPosASL attachedObj would be correct.

Unless water is involved then getPosATL will return the same thing.

If you can guarantee that attachedObj is standing on terrain then getPos and getPosATL should return the same thing, but then getPosATL is much faster.

[tropic summit]

yeah i was just trying to get anything that would return even vaguely close to start

my issue now is finding a way to calculate the relative position of the base object to a specific memory point on the model

I assume I'll need to use selectionPosition

[granite sky]

The base object's model or the other one?

[tropic summit]

the base object

the idea is basically to rewrite the fnc so you could use it to say attach an object to a vehicle's turret and have it move and rotate with that bone while still being able to use 3den to manipulate the object and not have to sit there and figure out the right offsets by hand

[granite sky]

I would have thought you could shortcut that with the memPoint parameter of attachTo.

but yeah, otherwise selectionPosition.

[tropic summit]

yeah the hold up I'm having is figuring out how to calculate the attached object's position relative to the selectionPosition

[granite sky]

It doesn't just do it automatically if you specify mempoint?

The offset is applied to the object center unless a memory point is provided, in which case the offset will be applied to the memory point position.

Oh I see, you want it to keep its current relative position.

[tropic summit]

the issue is going back to trying to make it work like the attachtorelative function

yeah

[granite sky]

yeah in that case just do a vector subtract with the selection position.

(after doing the worldToModel, and then both values are in model space)

vectorDiff

But if it's already rotated then I'm not sure what's going to happen.

[tropic summit]

i have a diff solution for that part that should work

something like this? (baseObj worldToModel ATLtoAGL getPosASL attachedObj) vectorDiff (baseObj selectionPosition ["otochlaven", "Memory"])

[granite sky]

ASLtoAGL not ATLtoAGL

but yeah, I think that's correct for non-rotating at least.

[tropic summit]

works like a charm thx

[digital hollow]

If you wanna compare answers afterwards https://gist.github.com/ampersand38/1f3d52fedeb9e76ac7e9647072b8e49e

[tropic summit]

always someone man 💀

i shouldve known lol

[glossy aspen]

Im trying to make a patch for Pook's Arty where the VFX on launch of the SCUD and the Iskander are like those of the FIR Cruise Missile , ive tried a lot of things but couldnt get them to work , ended up breaking the mod several times with patches , does anybody know the general way to get this to work ?

[cobalt path]

Hey, I am trying to remove a main rotor from a helo. Like they do when they hit a building. I just want a helo to spawn without a rotor.
So far I tried

_this setHitPointDamage ["hithrotor", 1];

It did damage the rotor, but its still there.
I am testing this on a Standard GhostHawk btw

[digital hollow]

I don't think you can by script. Create it far away, engine on, next to a VR block. Then when the rotor is destroyed, move it to where you want it.

[cobalt path]

But than the question is, how does the game handle it? There must be a way

[digital hollow]

Not all of the game engine is exposed to script or modding.
Another way is simple object if it just needs to be visual.

[hallow mortar]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setHitPointDamage
Use the 6th argument

[cobalt path]

Oh....Okay, I didnt notice that before

Thanks I will try

yup

_this setHitPointDamage ["hithrotor", 1.0, false, objNull, objNull, true];```
and its beautiful

[kindred zephyr]

hello folks, quick question.

Are units spawned by a Zeus local to the zeus machine or to the server?

[hallow mortar]

By default they're local to the Zeus that placed them. However, they can be transferred; if the Zeus player disconnects, for example, or if a script force transfers them (e.g. headless client systems).

[kindred zephyr]

ty!

[peak delta]

call {SL sidechat ''Arriving in a couple! I'll pick you guys up and bug out!''};

it still says missing }

what?

what is wrong with this line of code

[proven charm]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/synchronizeObjectsAdd i think

[proven charm]

try adding ; before }

[hallow mortar]

Not required

[peak delta]

it still says missing ]

[hallow mortar]

You shouldn't need call { } at all tbh.
It's possible the issue is actually in the line before this, and this is just where it's getting picked up.

[hallow mortar]

Is it missing ] or missing } ? The difference is important.

[peak delta]

when i put } its missing }, if i change it to ] its missing ]

both sides i put the [ ]

im using the trigger system block

[hallow mortar]

Within the context of this line only, { } are correct (if unnecessary since call { } is not needed). Using [ ] would be wrong.
In SQF, {} are used to denote Code data type. [] are used to denote Array data type. They cannot be interchanged.

[peak delta]

okay i will do it without

[hallow mortar]

"System block"?

[peak delta]

the trigger flag

trigger, you know the blue flag

in the description thats where i put this code in

if that helps

ok so i removed the {}, now its says missing;

crazy work

[hallow mortar]

It probably doesn't matter for the purposes of this error, but triggers have several code fields in their attributes, and none of them are "description".
Is this the only code in...whichever code field you put this in?

[winter rose]

provide all your code?

[hallow mortar]

If you remove the {} you need to remove call as well, they're part of the same structure.

[peak delta]

now its

call SL sidechat ''____________________'';

oh

i missed your last message

ok

stil missing;

[proven charm]

SL defined?

[peak delta]

oh let me check if i did

its headquarters entity

i named it in variable names ''SL''

[fair drum]

At this point, just take a screenshot of your trigger and headquarters module

[hallow mortar]

Is the error happening when you exit the trigger attributes in the Editor, or when the trigger activates in the mission?

If it's the first one, then it's unlikely to be an undefined variable, as I don't believe the in-Editor syntax test actually checks for undefined variables.

[peak delta]

its when i press ok, i cannot press ok it wont save

[winter rose]

you are using '', not "

[peak delta]

wtf

its '' here

guess in arma not

[winter rose]

'' != "

'' != "

[hallow mortar]

Your alleged " is actually just two ' next to each other

[peak delta]

how do you chagne this

when i press the same buttons for ''

it changes in arma

[winter rose]

copy-paste "

[peak delta]

oh you can copy paste

well thank you all

aneurysm simulator 2025

[hallow mortar]

This is also two ' in Discord by the way. It just looks like ".

[fair drum]

Screenshot wins as usual

[peak delta]

yea youre right

my god 3 people for this

this gonna be a whole ride

[hallow mortar]

If you're pressing the " key on your keyboard and it's outputting two ', you have a problem with your system. It's not supposed to work like that.

[peak delta]

its not outputting in 2 seperate here

[proven charm]

i have " at number 2 key

[peak delta]

its just arma being a psycho bitch

[hallow mortar]

It is. You can individually select them. It just doesn't look like it.

[peak delta]

alright]

[winter rose]

Arma is innocent!

(…at least here 😄)

[peak delta]

the fault is my own doing

[broken pivot]

Hey people 😄
Did someone implemented a custom sound and can say me
why my Arma say "Member already defined" with following
input in description.ext:

//Benutzerdefinerte Geräuscheffekte
class CfGSounds
{
    sounds[] = {}; // OFP required it filled, now it can be empty or absent depending on the game's version

    class test
    {
        sound[] = { "EBER\Funktionen\Sirene\KrankenwagenSirene1.ogg", 1, 1, 100 };    // file, volume, pitch, maxDistance
    forceTitles = 0;            // Arma 3 - display titles even if global show titles option is off (1) or not (0)
    };
};

[stable dune]

class test,
Change that to eber_test
I bet some where , someone, something is defined in cfgSounds class test (which is not good define for unique class)

[thorny osprey]

Does anyone have a pointer for any scripting functions for the Radio Protocol stuff https://community.bohemia.net/wiki/Arma_3:_Radio_Protocol ?

Ideally, I would like the player to say/radio the messages defined in the RadioProtocolENG (GRE, CHI, etc)

[broken pivot]

Got the problem together with a friend. Its a already defined and included CfgSounds in another file

[thorny osprey]

@foggy stratus do you have a pointer for this perhaps? I know you created a script once and put it on the bis forums - but they are offline for the time being.

[lethal fern]

hey guys how is everyone today, im very new to this scripting stuff on arma 3 and wanted to make a ww2 bomber mission where a group of bombers fly to target position and release the bombs (ofc ai controlled) is there a script or a mod for that sort of stuff??

[weary ice]

I suspect I already know the answer to this, but is there not a way of reading/writing to a txt file without an additional mod or extension or using SQL for something like storing persistent player data?

[granite sky]

No, you need an extension to do any external writing.

[weary ice]

eww

[sharp grotto]

You could store "persistent player data" in the profileNamespace / missionProfileNamespace of client/server tho.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/missionProfileNamespace
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/profileNamespace

[foggy stratus]

Here's my jboy_speak function. It covers most vanilla command/responses, and will speak the line in the language of the unit's speaker.

2 sample calls:

[_unit,selectRandom ["CheeringE_3","CheeringE_2","EndangeredE_3"]] call JBOY_Speak; [player,"Halt"] call JBOY_Speak;

[thin fox]

that's really interesting

[snow viper]

does anyone know how to turn on building interior lights? specificly on CUP chernarus 2020 buildings?

[thorny osprey]

Fantastic, thanks much!

[hallow mortar]

Are you sure the buildings actually have working interior lights?
Since lights go through walls in Arma, most buildings don't have them.

[pallid palm]

i just put a fireplace under the building or in where the fireplace would go

looks cool a fire burning in the fireplace

i raise the firepit or fireplace up to fit right where the fire should go in the fire place of

the building, and the building hides the rocks that are around the fire pit and it looks cool

imho

[proven charm]

particle effects?

[pallid palm]

no no just the regular fireplace

[rugged coral]

Haha I thought of this approach too. But it might be more efficient but it's handing is worse.
I can recommend creating a centralised DB reader/writer which can write/read DB Data.
Also I do highly recommend reading out non (only) player related at the server start and saving them in variables locally on the server so you don't spam too much requests.
For me there are currently (highly dependent on player count ofc) like 250-20k read requests a day and like up to 1-2 mil update requests due event based saving.
I did not ran in any DB Update issue yet but would also be interesting to have some other feedback about that 🙂

[proven charm]

@pallid palm huh ok

[pallid palm]

roger m8

the building hides the rocks that are around the fireplace and it looks cool

[proven charm]

havent noticed that my self

[rugged coral]

I guess he means the rocks of the fire place are in the building -> not visible anymore?

[pallid palm]

yeah if you raise the fireplace up to fit in the fireplace in the building the building hides the rocks around the fireplace

only on buildings that have a kinda fire place in them

[proven charm]

cool

[pallid palm]

yes i love it

and you can even turn the fire off if you want also

or on

because its a regular fireplace from the game

[proven charm]

ok

[pallid palm]

or firepit as it were

and the sound is there also no need to do anything else

[rugged coral]

Oh and ofc you can stack the update requests too if you have issues with too many at once (for me this wasn't necessary yet)
Also try avoiding multiple update requests for 1 single event.

But for simple settings or so you can also use the other approach. But when it comes to stuff like being able to edit data when not having direct access on the server you have to do it that way I guess or write other extensions on your own

[proven charm]

i guess thats good for survival players they can warm themselfs up 😉

[pallid palm]

lol yeah lol

plus its looks so cool from far off

it looks like people were getting ready to cook lol

it realy gives you the feeling that people are in that building

and the sound is there also

[proven charm]

ya eat too

[pallid palm]

yes

and at night woooweee look out lol

looks so cool

on that one 2 story building in Arma3, i use it all the time you know witch one i mean

[proven charm]

ive only noticed fireplaces in takistan tbh

[hushed turtle]

Is it possible to make interiors dark without making it dark everywhere?

[pallid palm]

i sometimes board up the windows and that helps some

[hushed turtle]

You would have to spawn light sources yourself. And these are local, so have fun syncing them in multiplayer. Or you can use Scotty's workaround

I just found it weird, that tunnels from SOG have normal light inside of them. Unless I switch time to night.

[proven charm]

set gamma to dark when inside building - probably a bad idea and undoable

[pallid palm]

i make SOG missions with vanilla no Mods needed

[hushed turtle]

What about AI? Their visibility seems to be affected by amount of light. So, wouldn't it be bad, if I just make it dark for players?

[pallid palm]

hmmmm

interesting

[proven charm]

little challenge is always good

[pallid palm]

yeah thats right ai can't see in the dark

the other day i did a night mission with just flashlights and holy moly WOW

[proven charm]

you can set AIs skill such as "spotTime" "spotDistance" via https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setSkill

[hushed turtle]

I think that's workaround at best. It might be better to change time of day when entering a tunnel and change it back when leaving. This would only make sense in singleplayer though, since weather and time is synchronized in multiplayer

[pallid palm]

yes agree

[hushed turtle]

And you can make nights really really dark in Arma. At the right time, when there is no moon. Nights are literally pitch black.

[pallid palm]

and you can also make nights really light in Arma 3 if you set the date for a full moon WooHoo

Bark at the Moon lol

[hushed turtle]

It needs a little more brightness using colour correction, if you want to have nights really bright

[pallid palm]

no no i just set the date to a date that has a Full Mood and wala its light at night

[hushed turtle]

In opened areas, it seems to be true. But in buildings or woods - not so much

[pallid palm]

well yeah true that

but thats the cool thing

[warm hedge]

Maybe setAperture if that could be a good workaround

[hushed turtle]

Color correction code.
#sog_prairie_fire message

How it looks during full moon
#screenshots_arma message

[pallid palm]

Awsome

[pallid palm]

there are some buildings in vanilla that have fireplaces

[proven charm]

i hear ya

[pallid palm]

ok cool

i love the fact that my missions need no mods to play, and you only need vanilla, that way its all good for everyone to play, at any time

and you can have mods if you want also

[proven charm]

same

[winter rose]

yep, same 😎

[proven charm]

i have like CBA loaded but I hope im not using any one its features or my mission wont work for people without CBA XD

[pallid palm]

yes agree

i wont put anything in my clean Arma 3

[thin fox]

I also do the same for my scripts, but for modding, yeah, CBA is the guy

[pallid palm]

the Guy that started CBA was a good friend of mine and i still don't use the CBA lol

it still amazes me that i hear of all the things going wrong with pepoles game, i never had 1 thing go wrong ever with Arma 3

maybe cuz i started way back in OFP

i would like to fix the distance of the holdAction in ArmA3

but i cant get it right yet

[hushed turtle]

Yes, Arma is perfect, without any problems at all and always has been

I've literally send you edited version of that function with lowered distance

[pallid palm]

yes Arma 3 is the best game in the World

[hushed turtle]

That's being said, it's weird you can't just change it using parameter

[atomic niche]

usually distance check is in conditionShow parameter for holdactionadd

[pallid palm]

yeah im working on it

[coral summit]

how can I set a speed boost for aircrafts? they took off so slow in aircraft carrier and just fall into the water

[atomic niche]

https://community.bohemia.net/wiki/BIS_fnc_holdActionAdd

[atomic niche]

Is it the vanilla aircraft carrier? there are catapults on the deck

[coral summit]

modded ones, and for ai

[pallid palm]

oh i see i got it woohoo thx man @atomic niche

hell yeahhhhhh Arma 3 woohoo

    "_this distance _target < 5",// Condition for the action to be shown
    "_caller distance _target < 5",    // Condition for the action to progress

[hushed turtle]

Ok, that's not bad

[thin fox]

it's because you don't do complex sh*t

[thin fox]

what you want to achieve? You want AI to take off from the carrier?

[coral summit]

yes

[pallid palm]

@thin fox oh really, what makes you think i don't have complex Scripts you might want to rethink that, and how would you even know what i do or how complex my stuff is, its kinda funny your just like me, i speak with out thinking sometimes too, and also i was not taking about you, or anything you said, or did, when i said that:

well i dont know about you but simple is way better then complex

[thin fox]

like this?

[coral summit]

yeah, and a cargo plane that paradrops people

[thin fox]

depends on what you mean by simple

[pallid palm]

i mean like neat and clean

and good scripting

im not saying im a master mind but from all the help i got from the guys in discord make my missions Awsome

[thin fox]

when I get home I will share my working functions for AI talking off from carrier

[coral summit]

thanks!

[atomic niche]

Just adding some extra velocity during takeoff or do they use the catapults?

[coral summit]

adding velocity, i tried the catapults one and they steer the plane like badly

[thin fox]

they do use catapults

I use bis functions but I had to modify a thing or two to work on IA and some modded aircraft with bad launch config

[coral summit]

[herc] call BIS_fnc_AircraftCatapultLaunch;
[herc_1] call BIS_fnc_AircraftCatapultLaunch;
[a1] call BIS_fnc_AircraftCatapultLaunch;
[a2] call BIS_fnc_AircraftCatapultLaunch; I used this on the mission file sqf something

[thin fox]

it's because you need other functions to make this functional.
The catapult launch just do the launch, but what actually maintain the aircraft in the right track is a function that locks the aircraft to the catapult, by getting the memory point from the hull of the carrier, and that I needed to script

[coral summit]

ohhh okay thanks for the info

[thin fox]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_carrier01CatapultLockTo
+
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_aircraftCatapultLaunch

you can read them in the functions viewer

[atomic niche]

Description:
N/A

[winter rose]

I count on you to document it

[atomic niche]

[winter rose]

I call Photoshop or AI manipulation

[atomic niche]

off-topic, please stick to discussing Arma 3 scripting in this channel :D

[coral summit]

help

[idle violet]

Reverted: setUnitLoadout will now abort if a unit is in the process of switching weapons (may be revisited in future) - FT-T167015
when I finally finish adjusting my mission, this update comes

[thin fox]

😂 that's why I mentioned function viewer, let's blame Lou

[atomic niche]

Always blame Lou

[dire star]

How do i make waitUntil my unit is not in vehicle anymore? So once he exits vehicle other script runs

[tulip ridge]

isNull objectParent _someUnit
objectParent would return the vehicle _someUnit is in or objNull if they're not in one

[thin fox]

or "GetOutMan" EH

[tough abyss]

Question, looking to have a scroll wheel option for one object to have equipment such as weapons, explosives, etc then another object have the uniforms. Anyone have a script or way of doing that ?

[thin fox]

what do you mean by that? boxes with items?

[tough abyss]

Like arsenal boxes

[pallid palm]

why not just use the Bis_arsenal box

this addAction ["<t color='#ff1111'>BIS Arsenal</t>", {["Open",true] spawn BIS_fnc_arsenal},"",1,false,true,"","(_target distance _this) < 5"];

[thin fox]

If you want boxes with items, there are commands for that, but you can fill them in the object's attributes as well

[winter rose]

Hey!

[atomic niche]

Hi :D

[faint burrow]

RydHQ_Excluded = RydHQ_Excluded - [_value];

[warm hedge]

#community_wiki

[proven charm]

parseNumber is weird, this prints 1: ```
parsenumber "1abc";

[granite sky]

What would you expect it to do?

[proven charm]

fail

return zero

[granite sky]

yeah can't do that now, some code might depend on it :P

[proven charm]

lol must be weird code

[granite sky]

It's probably an old C library thing anyway. You give it a string pointer and it attempts to get as much number out of it as possible.

[proven charm]

right

[granite sky]

https://cplusplus.com/reference/cstdlib/atoi/

The string can contain additional characters after those that form the integral number, which are ignored and have no effect on the behavior of this function.

[proven charm]

well i just have to do the error check my self then

wow all the way from there

[granite sky]

shrugs

I don't have their source but it'd be in character.

[proven charm]

now how to check if character is letter or digit?

[hallow mortar]

regex, at a guess

[proven charm]

oh man i hate regex 🙂

but good thing i dont have to do a loop when using regex

googled this sqf if(count (_text regexFind ["\D+"]) > 0) exitwith { 0 }; // Only digits allowed

[proven charm]

thx 🙂

[thin fox]

I did something with parseNumber to only accept digits in one of my controls

(displayCtrl 3631400) ctrlAddEventHandler ["EditChanged",{
    params ["_control", "_newText"];

    // https://community.bohemia.net/wiki/Talk:parseNumber
    if (!((parseNumber _newText) == 0) && (count _newText == 6)) then {
        ctrlEnable [3631603, true]; // Enable Grid button
        (displayCtrl 3631603) ctrlSetToolTip "Select grid position";
    } else {
        ctrlEnable [3631603, false]; // Disable Grid button
    };
}];

[proven charm]

thx the regexFind seems to work fine

[thin fox]

these are all the function that handles catapult launches of my w.i.p cas menu, now time to study them

sorry for the long file list, blame discord

[coral summit]

thanks

[fleet sand]

Why not just make Git repository ? 😄

[thin fox]

I'm still editing stuff before putting there, not much familiar to github

[fleet sand]

IT gives you version control so you can rollback if need be and see the changes you or somebody else makes if your repository is open or if you let people in if its private.
Its easy to learn you just need some practice at first if its your firt time using it. I would recomend to download Github Desktop and just use that app if you are just starting with Github.

[thin fox]

Thanks for the recommendation Legion, I will download it. When I start a project or I'm in a middle of it, I edit lots of stuff, minimal sh*t, like missing a ";" or a wrong letter in some variable, and had to reupload/merge the file everytime, that's why I'm just holding on to upload it later

[fleet sand]

you just push and commit when you are done editing you dont have to push and commit every little change.

[thin fox]

so github desktop helps with that?

I mean I can save the files without push and commit

[fleet sand]

Yea its as easy as pressing 1 button 😄

[kindred zephyr]

by any chance, does anyone know if the
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addCamShake
command acts on the display 46 of a player or if its bound to something else?

I'm having some issues with persistent screen shaking even after restarting the mission I'm testing and im wondering if im missing something here or if this is a plain ole´ bug. This is happening on a machine that is running the game "natively" in Proton, doesnt seem to happen on a pair of windows based machines I have tested with

[minor timber]

Hi, will this mod be MP compatible ? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3451978697

There is comment from "R. Gonzalez": ||Won't the "hasInterface" condition make dedicated server and HC local units NOT be affected by the mod?|| which makes me worried. I would like to use it for 40+ plp event, but if it wont work with dedicated.. 🫣 😦

[hallow mortar]

That comment (and the code) doesn't mean the mod won't work on a dedicated server. It means that units which are local to the dedicated server or headless client won't benefit from the mod - unconscious collision will not be disabled for them.
This isn't a problem because the only units that are local to the DS/HC are AI, and AI pathfinding doesn't care about unconscious collisions anyway.

[hallow mortar]

Basically, the mod operates on the machine of the player who wants to walk over the body (let's call them Player A). The mod running on Player A's machine detects when any unit enters the ACE unconscious state, and disables that unit's collision - only on Player A's machine (the command is Local Effect). Player B, who is not running the mod, is unaffected; the unconscious person still has collision on Player B's machine.
Because the mod works like this, it doesn't need to run on a DS or HC. DS and HC machines, by definition, cannot have a player who might want to walk through unconscious people, so they don't need to disable collision.

[blazing zodiac]

Does anyone have a work around for flyInHeight not being ASL and being ATL? Need it for a UAV Loiter type waypoint and haven't been able to come up with anything to keep it steady. I wish we could get the VBS variant of flyInHeight that has the option for ASL in it.

[minor timber]

Thank you so much @hallow mortar , its important for trench warfare, when we were moving unconscious player from btr it happens also that vehicle got blasted off, or jumped into the air, can we hope this will be solved too ? I know, could be hard to tell. (We also have bmp2 jumping, when driver is leaving the vehicle, it can be prevented by opening hatch for some reason )

[proven charm]

i thought allPlayers was fixed to update the player list faster (in MP), but i guess it wasnt?

[faint burrow]

It was.

At least according to changelog.

[proven charm]

maybe its server only fix then because i just tested in dedi and client was slow to update it

[dire star]

I want to make crashed huey with dead crew in it, but everytime i place unit in huey which has disabled simulation it turns back on, anyone knows how do i do it, i remember it didnt happen before

[pallid palm]

@dire star so can you explane more about the mission on whats going on before the crashed huey

or do you just want to put a huey somewhere and then crash it or damage it or expload it,

@dire star don't disabled simulation, just put the huey somewhere with the crew in it and then expload it, then as long as you don't have a clean up script, or the CorpseRemoval on, the dead guys should still be there

[pallid palm]

in some cleanup scripts you can exclude named guys or dead guys, then you can have Corpse Removal on

[dire star]

So mission is that my team recovers downed crew and i've made huey that has 10% health and i've positioned it on side (rotated) so it looks like it crashed and i just wanted when my team reaches crash site there's dialogue going on ab dead crew so i just wanted to add some details like copilot died in crash and stuff like that

[pallid palm]

oh i see hmmm i need to think about that one lol

[dire star]

In my Black Hawk Down mission i use same script and heli stays out of simulation once i unhide it that's why i dont understand why it's happening

[pallid palm]

hmmm yeah i see

maybe the crews not in the huey till your team gets to the huey

and maybe then the crew gets spawned is the huey when your team is at a distance from the huey

just a guess tho

[hallow mortar]

You could try attaching the helo rather than disabling its simulation

(Might also need to disable damage on it to stop it exploding from being clipped into the ground, I don't remember exactly how attached objects respond to that)

[dire star]

It wont bounce or move around after that right?

[hallow mortar]

As long as whatever it's attached to doesn't bounce or move around

[versed widget]

has anyone figure out how to use playSound3D on moving objects ?

[hallow mortar]

You can't. (Well, you can but the sound won't follow the object.) If you want a moving sound, you need say3D or createSoundSource.

[versed widget]

I think createSoundSource should do it, thanks

[proven charm]

can you make the Diary Record have clickable link that opens webpage? I found ctrlSetURL from the wiki but that probably cant be used

[hallow mortar]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Structured_Text#Hyperlink

[proven charm]

thx

[hallow mortar]

If it doesn't work, you may need to allowlist the URL. I don't remember whether structured text links are affected by this. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext#CfgCommands

[proven charm]

hmm however this does not create link ```sqf
_index = player createDiarySubject ["testEntry","TEST"];

player createDiaryRecord ["testEntry", ["Info", "<a href='http://arma3.com'>Arma 3</a>"]];

[hallow mortar]

The documentation says the links aren't marked in any way, they just look like plain text. Have you tried clicking on it?

[proven charm]

yes

wait ill try to whitelist it

doesnt seem to work

RscStructuredText works

[hallow mortar]

I guess briefing doesn't support all the structured text tags

Weird, I thought I'd seen URLs in briefings before

[proven charm]

you can have clickable links there but they only execute code

[edgy salmon]

How does the object Transfer Switch work (the one from the Contact dlc). How do i make it so on hold button it sets the switch to the up or down position? I'm trying to make a mission where players have to use it to "switch on" a radio antenna but can't find anything regarding scripting this

[hallow mortar]

It's just animations

See https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/animateSource

You can inspect the object in the Config Viewer to see what animations it has

And for the hold action of course you'll want https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_holdActionAdd

[edgy salmon]

Ok i'll check it out, thank you

[tough abyss]

I think I broke it.

[isServer,clientOwner,owner player]
[true,5,2]

[terse tinsel]

I need your help. Is there a script that will lower the NVG onto the eyes but keep the view normal? (like without any googles?)

[ocean folio]

I'm curious if anyone has come up with a way to automate AI "hunting" players if they do something like crash land, eject, or get spotted?

[hushed turtle]

I would give AI squad a "MOVE" waypoint to the crashed aircraft

[ocean folio]

Well... I mean yes ultimately, but I'd like to detect that automatically and spawn or task a group to searching. It might just be something I have to write myself, just figured I'd see if anyone has already done it first

[hushed turtle]

You could use GetOut or GetOutMan EH to detect when player exited his vehicle

[cyan dust]

Does anyone else use doMove command in their mission? Did you notice that it is being ignored on dedicated server with the last update? 🤔
All my scripts that are using it suddenly do not work anymore and I'm looking into reasons and ways to fix this.

[thin fox]

do you use lambs danger AI mod? they have some scripted stuff to hunt down players, you just need to call it in a script

[sharp grotto]

Also nice https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_stalk

[deft zealot]

whats clientOwner?

[rich bramble]

I'm guessing I'm not the first one to realize this but I just tested it and was surpised just how well it works (apart from the ugly syntax): app = {_x = (_this select 1); call (_this select 0);};
Any guesses what that does/what it's for?

[tough abyss]

^ no idea

whats clientOwner
returns the clients owner id. It breaks in resumed MP games apparently.

[rich bramble]

It's the basis for lambdas in SQF. Well, really, really ugly lambdas, and I'm not even sure if you can get full lambda out of it

(\x -> x 5) (\x -> x + 4) turns into [{[_x,5] call app},{_x + 4}] call app;

Surprisingly (well, not really, once you think about it) you can even get the result back out: _result = [{[_x,5] call app},{_x + 4}] call app; will in fact return 9

[tough abyss]

uhm

[rich bramble]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_function and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus

I'm not quite sure how far (nesting) this actually works, though. Would have to be way more awake for that

[tough abyss]

What's it for? It looks beautiful.

[rich bramble]

In SQF it's just a toy. In theoretical computer science, Lambda Calculus is a super important theory of computation. It's also the basis/inspiration for so called "functional programming"

Some other non-functional (i.e. more mainstream/standard) languages also have "lambda function" support since it allows you to quickly write down a function without worrying about a name, variable names, etc. You just go func foo = \x -> x * cos(x) * 2 + 17*x; which is something we already do all the time in SQF.

[kindred zephyr]

and it works great, very overlooked behaviour tbh

[rich bramble]

Actually, I'm an idiot. "app" isn't even necessary, just use _this instead of _x and "call" will do exactly what we need.

I'm going to blame this on it being the middle of the night 😛

[ocean folio]

iiiiinteresting

Stalk looks just like lambs stalk just with more precision on how it works, I'll definitely be using that.

I think the hard part is figuring out when to do it, since gameplay wise it wouldn't be all that fun if you started getting hunted on a normal dismount

its a little wonky but I guess I could do something like use a trigger in the relevant area to add a LandedTouchedDown EH to the aircraft and write some spawning logic in there

Could possibly use knowsAbout to determine if their position was known when they touched down- hmmm that might be the answer

[hushed turtle]

Only thing I don't like about it is parameter radius. Because this number gets passed into addWaypoint's radius parameter, which is in my opinion very strange, since it creates waypoint, which seems to usually be placed close to the center of the radius. Rather than having even chance of being placed close or far from radius center.

You might not mind this, but think it's worth pointing out. It took me some time to figure this out.

[ocean folio]

That is good to know, I'll have to experiment with that to see if will cause problems

[granite sky]

Fairly frequently. No issues. Generally the only trouble with doMove is that it can be overridden by other doMoves.

[hushed turtle]

Maybe after enemy spotted the aircraft and aircraft landed in enemy controlled territory?

[tribal crane]

Your "app" worked because of dynamic scoping (http://foxhound.international/arma-3-sqf-private-variables.html) but you'd want to make sure _x is local to that scope when doing things like that.

[ocean folio]

yup thats what I'm thinking, if knowsAbout` is high enough and it lands. I dont know how that would account for ejecting and parachuting from a plane but at least for helicopters it should (hopefully) work

[real tartan]

does anybody have a code snippet for selecting only roof positions of building ?

[fair drum]

Do these positions exist in as a building position or are you trying to do something more general

[real tartan]

trying to select from existing building positions

[hushed turtle]

Player lands in enemy territory after plane he jumped from was spotted? Or he was spotted himlself like on parachute

[real tartan]

_positions select { lineIntersectsWith [ _x, [ ( _x select 0 ), ( _x select 1 ), ( _x select 2 ) + 20 ] ] };

simple enought ?

[fair drum]

you're on the right path

i personally use lineIntersectsSurfaces but I'm actually doing the opposite of what you do, determining if there is a roof over a position:

https://github.com/hypoxia125/Modules-Enhanced/blob/main/addons/teleporter/functions/fnc_teleportPlayer.sqf#L66-L101

[rich bramble]

@tribal crane: Yeah, that's the article that actually gave me the idea for this. But I'm still not sure if you can actually get full lambda calculus out of it, at least "neatly"

[ocean folio]

Either he was known about before ejecting, or he was spotted on the descent. The whole map wouldnt reasonably be populated so spotted on the descent is less likely but if he gets shot down it makes sense that his rough position would be known

[fleet sand]

Quick question how do i get animation Duration. The lenght of animation ?

There is this Duration in Animation Viewer but i dont know how they got that duration ?

[hallow mortar]

I believe the Animation Viewer list is built from config, and the animation's duration is defined in its config

CfgMovesMaleSdr or CfgGesturesMale would be the places to look

[fleet sand]

Yea i was looking there but there isnt anything about duration of animation:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgMoves_Config_Reference?useskin=darkvector

[hallow mortar]

For State type animations it's determined by dividing 1 by the animation's config speed value

I can't figure out how it's determined for Action type animations

Okay no, I misunderstood. Animations in CfgMovesMaleSdr >> Actions is not a distinct category from CfgMovesMaleSdr >> States. "Actions" entries have corresponding "States" entries, and that's where the speed property lives for all of them. For all animations, duration is determined by abs (1 / _speed).

[fleet sand]

I dont think that is correct formula becouse i got this:

/*
-anim name: "Acts_Abuse_Lacey"
-anim length: 26.206
*/

TAG_fnc_getAnimDuration = {
    params ["_animName"];
    private _animSpeed = getNumber (configFile >> "CfgMovesMaleSdr" >> "States" >> _animName >> "speed");
    private _r = abs(1/_animSpeed);
    _r
    
};

private _test = ["Acts_Abuse_Lacey"] call TAG_fnc_getAnimDuration;

//resoult: 86.2069
systemChat format ["%1", _test];

[hallow mortar]

BIS_fnc_animViewer, line 516:

_cfgAnim = configfile >> BIS_fnc_animViewer_moves >> "States" >> _anim;
_file = gettext (_cfgAnim >> "file");
_speed = getnumber (_cfgAnim >> "speed");
_duration = if (_speed != 0) then {abs (1 / _speed)} else {0};
BIS_fnc_animViewer_animData = [_anim,_file,_duration,time];

_duration value is then passed to BIS_fnc_secondsToString to generate the displayed duration

The actual Acts_Abuse_Lacey animation clearly plays for substantially longer than 26 seconds, so clearly there's some error being introduced somewhere

[fleet sand]

yea becouse i was confused we are using the same code but got 2 diffrent values.

[hallow mortar]

You'd have to check by timing it properly, but I suspect that the basic formula is correct, Acts_Abuse_Lacey is actually about 86 seconds long, and BIS_fnc_animViewer is screwed up somehow. I can't find where it's screwed up though, so 🤷

[fleet sand]

myb worth makeing a ticket ?

[hallow mortar]

I mean it can't hurt, unless a ticket already exists. But the BI anims viewer has been terrible for ages, I avoid it as much as possible

[pallid palm]

@real tartan yes look for the SHK_buildingpos.sqf

the script has full instructions on how to use it in the script

[grim cipher]

im trying to set up objectives to where the players need to kill all of the enemies, so I'm using "!alive infantry1" as the group's variable, this is giving me an error though. is there a way to go about it for the group as a whole without me having to name each individual soldier?

could i use something like this?

{alive _x} count units infantry1 == 0

[stable dune]

units infantry1 findIf {alive _x} == -1;

https://community.bohemia.net/wiki/findIf

[warm hedge]

Negative speed means seconds.
speed = 10; and speed = -0.1; are same

[marble plume]

I am looking for a way to multiply the base amount of ammo in turrets across an entire vehicle, ideally by something simple in the object init. I've tried a couple (e.g. setVehicleAmmo) and have had no success.
Anyone know a way?

[warm hedge]

"Multiply" as having more magazine or having more magazine capacity?

[proven charm]

can you set dialog above the chat messages?

[cosmic lichen]

They are just UI so probably yes

[proven charm]

how?

thats the next question 🙂

[cosmic lichen]

By creating a dialog over it

[proven charm]

hmmmm i am creating dialog

via createDialog

[cosmic lichen]

Yeah, I see now. The chat window is always on top.

[proven charm]

ya

[proven charm]

could it be possible to hide the chat temporarily? Im trying to find in which dialog the chat is , probably in some overlay (i found "RscDisplayChat" but havent been able to figure the right display/control) (NVM thats not the right display)

[sly eagle]

Hello everyone, I am looking for something, that can change cargo parachute opening height.

[proven charm]

do cargo objects have a parachute by default? 🤔

[sly eagle]

I mean the parachute that opens when you, for example, throw the vehicle out of the plane

[proven charm]

yea i get you, was just thinking if thats vanilla arma behaviour or some mod

[sly eagle]

Vanilla. Added in APEX if I remember correctly

[proven charm]

dont know then

[harsh bloom]

I dont know much about coding but im trying my best to learn through the editor.
Im trying to do getPosATL and getDir on a Sign_Arrow_Direction_Blue_F but it always comes back as the words "[array,scalar]" with no actual data inside. Why is this?

[proven charm]

pls show your code

[harsh bloom]

Team1_Armr = []; ; Team1_Armr = [getPosALT _this, getDir _this];

And im putting it on the prop itselt

[proven charm]

in the init field?

[harsh bloom]

ye

Then im printing it in game and all it says is [array,scalar]

[proven charm]

i think you should use this without the _

[harsh bloom]

hmm

oh shit that works

but everything online said "_this"

[proven charm]

it depends where you put the code, init fields use this instead

[harsh bloom]

is there any other odd formatting like that for init fields i should know of?

[proven charm]

not sure , im not init fields expert 🙂

[harsh bloom]

pain

thank you so much

[split ruin]

I am using endeavourusOS (based on arch linux) to run arma 3 (very good performance btw) but I am lost to linux paths, for example the path to mpmissions folder. Any help from experienced linux user?

[hallow mortar]

Relevant intel https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Magic_Variables

[split ruin]

search suggest
~/.local/share/bohemiainteractive/arma3
there is no folder bohemiainteractive at all...

[proven charm]

@split ruin check out the linux channel, propably more help there https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/105464899567669248

[cobalt path]

So I am using this mod, which gives you tactical vision, I have an issue with it.
Here is the code: https://pastebin.com/RcXZDBTr
Here is the issue for what it does: https://i.ibb.co/4wVgbn4g/107410-20250607223937-1.png

[fleet sand]

Try putting sampeling to 114% in your video settings

[cobalt path]

It aint my screenshot, but a few players we play with has this issue

[fleet sand]

Tell them to do that and see if that fixes the issue. I had a similar problem with ace and kat and when i did that it fixed it.

[cobalt path]

Also how would ace_interact_menu_fnc even be related to it?. Apparently it only happens with that mod. I assume that the code calls to create ACE self interaction multiple times instead of one, when closing the inventory, is my theory

[errant iron]

yeah, i would definitely suspect the action wasn't removed as intended

have you tried adding just one action when the player is first registered, and using a condition to check if they have the right headgear/goggles to display the actions?

For a mod, I think you'd want to use some event handler that fires whenever the player is updated (PlayerViewChanged? CBA player events? don't ask me 🙃), so you can add the action exactly once. The vanilla/ACE conditions are sort of close enough that you can reuse them in one code block too: ```sqf
private _condition = {
params ["_target"];
headgear _target in VTO_tacvis_devices
or goggles _target in VTO_tacvis_devices
};

if (isClass (configFile >> "CfgPatches" >> "ace_interact_menu")) then {
private _parent = ["TacVis", "TacVis", "", {}, _condition] call ace_interact_menu_fnc_createAction;
// ...
} else {
player addAction [
"TacVis",
// ...
toString _condition
];
};```

[errant iron]

Figured I'd try asking myself, any info on what might cause a lobby slot to break indefinitely in this manner? It's been a very frequent issue in I&A to this day, and I have no idea what triggers it.

I couldn't reproduce this in my own gamemode, at least not with light traffic, so I don't know if it's caused by a script issue or if it can occur in any JIP scenario naturally.

[silent cargo]

Is there a sure fire method of monitoring units and detecting a group change?

Im trying to prevent AI from being left behind in their own groups when a player leaves the group and only AI are left behind. But If I use the unitleft group event handler on the group to check for and delete the units of a group if there is no player presently in that group - It works a few times but eventually it crashes the game for some reason.

I do not want to have to add a loop to the mission and would rather it be handled by event handler

[hushed turtle]

What about UnitJoined EH?

[silent cargo]

I need to capture when the player leaves a group, because only AI will be left behind. If I used join it would only check the new group which a player has just joined

Sadly there are no groupchanged events to capture for units

If I am adding an event handler to a group how exactly does that work? Is the event handler being applied to all units of a group, and then stays with them when they leave the group, or is it only while they are presently still in the group it was applied to?

[hushed turtle]

Unit must be in a group. Meaning if it leaves it must join other one. So no real need for groupChanged EH

[silent cargo]

Yes I meant a groupchange detection applied to only a single unit instead of entire group

Because when a player leaves a group, creates a new group, the event handler is gone.

[faint burrow]

But If I use the unitleft group event handler on the group to check for and delete the units of a group if there is no player presently in that group - It works a few times but eventually it crashes the game for some reason.
Send your code.

[silent cargo]

_plgrp = group player;
_plgrp addEventHandler ["UnitLeft", {
    params ["_group", "_oldUnit"];
    private _aisLeftBehind = {
        !isPlayer _x && {side _x in [west, east]}
    } count units _group == count units _group;
    if (_aisLeftBehind) then {
        {
            deleteVehicle _x;
        } forEach units _group;
    };
}];```

It will work flawlessly but then in some random instances it causes a crash for the person leaving the group

[tulip ridge]

You can do deleteVehicle units _group

May need parentheses, I forget

[silent cargo]

I will try that and a few other things. Does locality change for the AI if the original owner leaves the group and they are left behind with another player?

[faint burrow]

Try using spawn.

[faint burrow]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Multiplayer_Scripting#Locality_changes

[silent cargo]

Ok I will try that. The crash only happened frequently in MP too, almost never happened when I was testing in editor

[faint burrow]

I guess the reason of crashes is that you are doing group manipulations in the handler itself. Using spawn may help.

[silent cargo]

Okay so spawn for each unit of the group

I should also mention I am using the BIS Dynamic Groups feature. I do not know how stable this is

If in fact the crash is simply just from this system

[granite sky]

This would be my instinct here.

[faint burrow]

No, spawn the entire code:

_group addEventHandler [
    "UnitLeft",
    {
        _this spawn { ... };
    }
];

[granite sky]

In event handler code you need to be a bit careful about triggering other event handlers.

[silent cargo]

Oh okay gotcha

[faint burrow]

I think someone reported this not long ago.

You can try to find in #arma3_feedback_tracker.

[silent cargo]

Oh really? So basically an example would be that the unit being deleted is triggering the event again then I suppose since they also left the group, and maybe it is crashing because they no longer exist 😅

[granite sky]

That code probably shouldn't crash. It's not like it's gonna run out of stack like something horrible we did once.

but it's certainly a possibility

[silent cargo]

Yeah its Arma anything is possible but I also have half a clue of the depth of knowledge most of you have so I will try a couple of these suggestions

Also the person who crashes was almost always the other player joins existing group and then left

[granite sky]

If you have any repeatable crashes then it's worth sending the .mdmp to Dedmen.

[silent cargo]

Im going to test some new versions now

Thanks for the help

[gloomy lily]

is it possible to force players and all their models (clothing, armor, equipment, face) to only use a specific LOD at all times?

i noticed selectionNames can be used to force an LOD for one model from dedmen's example

[snow viper]

hey guys, would like to ask help again with this issue as its still not fixed

the absurdity is compounding, i just set up a new dedicated server on the same pc as my arma game, ran the server, tested, and got the desired results https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386766581564051687/1388644577954500619/image.png?ex=6861bb8b&is=68606a0b&hm=b15833d7c63497f1913f8bde3333f8751cd0f4eb52aca66a62ad9e5949a9a9d1&

i then went back to my actual dedicated server machine to test with that again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386766581564051687/1388646772716474449/image.png?ex=6861bd96&is=68606c16&hm=8a39871936f3828eb7701c1a42f40d356c91b6bb594f1246e693b4698dced89c&

[chrome echo]

Anyone know a best bodycam or helmet cam mod

[snow viper]

there the items and magazines are missing again

[snow viper]

here is my script

[fair drum]

are you doing any logging?

[snow viper]

i have, if you look in the original post im refering to, this is all working 100% in thorough testing, except in dedicated those addMagazines and addItems fail. Or well, in the dedicated server on my own machine it does not fail. I just have no clue anymore about any of this. Arma scripting is like a haunted house

[tulip ridge]

One of the newer ctab mods, the original has issues with mine detectors because the items aren't implemented correctly

[fair drum]

| except in dedicated those addMagazines and addItems fail
| Or well, in the dedicated server on my own machine it does not fail

these statements contradict each other. did you mean its failing on dedicated and is fine on listen server? Or did you mean fails on a dedicated server box from a service but is fine on your own dedicated box

if I was in your position right now, you know that the top part works and you start failing at handling items. I would start my logging to see if _lo_items and _lo_magazines is populated and correct wherever this unit is local. Additionally, I would log each iteration over those arrays to verify. These commands can silently fail, and give you no information, so you have to make your own information

// Handle Items 
private _lo_Items= [["FirstAidKit", 1]];
_lo_Items append (getArray ( configFile >> "CfgLoadoutsBlaBer" >> _unitFac >> "loadoutRoles" >> _unitRole >> "items" ));

+diag_log "_lo_Items::Immediately After Config Lookup";
+{
+    diag_log format["_lo_Items:: %1 | %2", _x#0, _x#1];
+} forEach _lo_Items;
{
    private _itemClass = _x # 0;
    private _itemCount = _x # 1;

    for "_i" from 1 to _itemCount do {
        if (!isNull uniformContainer _unit && _unit canAddItemToUniform _itemClass) then {
            _unit addItemToUniform _itemClass;
        } else {
            if (!isNull vestContainer _unit && _unit canAddItemToVest _itemClass) then {
                _unit addItemToVest _itemClass;
            } else {
                if (!isNull backpackContainer _unit && _unit canAddItemToBackpack _itemClass) then {
            _unit addItemToBackpack _itemClass
                };
            };
        };
    };
} forEach _lo_items;

// Handle magazines
+diag_log "_li_magazines::Immediate Before Adding";
+{
+    diag_log format["_li_magazines:: %1 | %2", _x#0, _x#1];
+} forEach _li_magazines;
{ _unit addMagazines [_x#0, _x#1]; } forEach _li_magazines;

[snow viper]

sorry was AFK to do another test scenario

[snow viper]

here is what i meant:
✅ testing in editor, singleplayer
✅ testing in editor, multiplayer
✅ testing a3dedicated on same machine
❌ testing a3dedicated on my game server machine
❌ testing a3dedicated on @stable dune's game server machine

this is what ✅ looks like

this is what ❌ looks like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386766581564051687/1388646772716474449/image.png?ex=6861bd96&is=68606c16&hm=8a39871936f3828eb7701c1a42f40d356c91b6bb594f1246e693b4698dced89c&

[snow viper]

just tested the same exact code from console on my server where this happens, and it succeeds

Something another person suggested which i feel may be true, is that , setUnitLoadout takes place after the adding of magazines and therefore empties the inventory? Then again would the radio be there in that case? (its automaticly added by ACRE)

[thin fox]

setUnitLoadout was fixed in the last hotfix

[snow viper]

when was that released?

OOoOooOOOOoooo

i just hit update on FASTER server manager

and it downloaded stuff

i am hoping that was the hotfix

i think release was 25th? i dont think ive had time to look at this since, i am hoping this is why my local machine dedicated server (just updated) is working, and my game server (last updated before 25th) does not work

the script i mean

[thin fox]

let's hope that you can fix your script with that only

[errant iron]

didn't the hotfix only revert the change where setUnitLoadout would be cancelled if the unit was in the middle of switching weapons?

[thin fox]

well yeah, but keeping the server updated also helps haha

[snow viper]

q_q nope that wasnt it

[snow viper]

 1:30:40 "_lo_Items:: FirstAidKit | 1"
 1:30:40 "_li_magazines::Immediate Before Adding"
 1:30:40 "_li_magazines:: rhssaf_mag_br_m84 | 1"
 1:30:40 "_li_magazines:: jna_20rnd_762x51_m77_mag | 5"
 1:30:40 "_li_magazines:: UK3CB_BHP_9_13Rnd | 1"```

here is the rest

[errant iron]

hmm, is the function executed on the server or on your client?

[snow viper]

should be on the server, recently i was given this suggestion

init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then {[_this select 0, ""bb_fac_kla_militia"", ""lmg""] call BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout;};";

in cfgVehicles

so that is

if (local (_this select 0)) then {[_this select 0, "bb_fac_kla_militia", "lmg"] call BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout;};

[errant iron]

i think this theory could be true, but to test that, could you spawn your function and add a short sleep just before it adds the items? sleep 0.5 should be sufficient

[snow viper]

it seems to be related to the fact that the script runs on init

i cant reproduce the issue in any other way than looking at a freshly inited unit, calling the function or running the function code in console always works no matter the server

[errant iron]

which button did you click to execute it, just Local Exec?

[snow viper]

yes

[errant iron]

can you try a different loadout but remoteExec it on the server? e.g. sqf [player, "...", "..."] remoteExec ["BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout", 2];

does that reproduce the issue, or does it still work as intended?

[snow viper]

will do, sec

yeah that reproduces it

[snow viper]

this is with a differen faction and role, i tried again doing your version but with the same parameters as previously, and it same yet again

[errant iron]

hmm, that suggests to me that locality is the issue there, but given that the item commands are supposed to work on remote units, it may be a race condition that only exhibits itself if there's enough latency for setUnitLoadout and addMagazines to run out of order

[errant iron]

do you mind making this change and uploading it onto your DS?

[snow viper]

do you mean spawn the entire function?

[errant iron]

around where you first define _lo_Items should be fine to put that sleep in

that, plus the sleep

[snow viper]

OK

ill have to look up documentation on the wiki how to do that

do you have a link maybe?

[errant iron]

just replacing call with spawn should be fine for this test

[snow viper]

oh huh interesting

forgot to add in the sleep lol so i had to go and redo the whole thingy again, will be back soon

thanks for your help btw @errant iron this is more new insight than ive had for days

i think thats it

i was confused because i got wrong magazines in one of the loadouts, checking now if thats due to my own error or because of somethign odd happening with the data

[snow viper]

but i had magazines in a loadout on init, and then this works too now

[errant iron]

if that sleep resolved it, then it's almost certainly a locality + network latency issue

[snow viper]

yeah this is odd

on mission init, the loadout consistently has the wrong magazines

its like the script is running twice now

once to do setUnitLoadout, once to add the items and mags

[snow viper]

this always results in the proper magazines

[errant iron]

that's with init="[...] spawn BlaBla_fnc_setUnitLoadout" right?

[snow viper]

correct

[errant iron]

iirc init fields execute on every connected machine, so that'd be your client + the server

[snow viper]

class bb_fac_kla_militia_rat : bb_fac_kla_ai_template
{
    faction="bb_fac_kla_militia";
    editorSubcategory = "EdSubcat_Personnel";
    scopeCurator = 2;
    scope = 2;
    side = 1;
    displayName = "Rifleman (Light AT)";
    class EventHandlers {
        init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then {[_this select 0, ""bb_fac_kla_militia"", ""rat""] spawn BlaBer_fnc_setUnitLoadout;};";
    };
};

[errant iron]

oh, you do have the local check though

[snow viper]

hold on, sombody said something the other day that might be relevant

admittedly i cant really comprehend this but maybe you can

[errant iron]

lol, that's the theory i was agreeing with

However this won't work as intended because the setMagazines etc chunk will likely run before the setUnitLoadout.

[snow viper]

is there any straight forward way to address this?

[errant iron]

hmm, instead of doing the if (local ... thing in init=, can you remove that and do the check inside the function instead? as in: ```sqf
// Your config:
init="[...] call BlaBla_fnc_setUnitLoadout;";

// fn_setUnitLoadout.sqf:
params ["_unit", ...];
if (!local _unit) exitWith {};

...```

you can remove the sleep too

[snow viper]

some here said that was ill advised

but honestly i dont know why that would be

i think because they said the function shouldnt be called at all unless by the server on the unit when it spawns

but im willing to try anything at this point

[errant iron]

hmm doesn't sound right to me, that might have been misinterpreted

the goal is to make sure the function never runs on a remote unit, because adding items to a unit that's simulated on a different computer introduces network latency that we're theorizing could cause your commands to run in the wrong order (i.e. addMagazines -> setUnitLoadout = wiped items)

[errant iron]

the weird part is that doing the local check inside init= should have been exactly the same as doing this, so im not sure why that didn't work

[snow viper]

the first thing that comes to mind is "because its arma"

[snow viper]

are you saying i should do call again in stead of spawn btw?

[errant iron]

if the local check is in the function then it probably shouldn't make a difference, but yeah call would be preferred there

[snow viper]

alright yeah i did switch it to call since i figured you would probably not put that by accident

still an empty inventory

[errant iron]

🥴 maybe the locality problem isn't the only issue then, cause it did work when it was spawned with the delay...

[errant iron]

or wait, when you did this test, did the init= field already have the local check in it?

[snow viper]

yeah that was there since my last 'session' working on this some days ago

i opened up the .pbo on the server to make sure i actually properly built and uploaded the new file

and i did

so yeah the problems in the code still 🥴

[errant iron]

hmm, what about units spawned in after the mission started? do they get the wrong loadout too?

or is it just units that were initially placed in the editor?

[snow viper]

ah i dont know

i need to add the factions to zeus to check

[errant iron]

^ assuming the code still looks like this

you can spawn in a unit with debug console too

here's one to spawn the unit on your client: sqf _pos = player getRelPos [5, 0]; _unit = group player createUnit ["bb_fac_kla_militia_rat", _pos, [], 0, "NONE"]; and another to spawn it on the server with remoteExec: ```sqf
_pos = player getRelPos [5, 0];
_grp = group player;
_args = ["bb_fac_kla_militia_rat", _pos, [], 0, "NONE"];

[_grp, _args] remoteExec ["createUnit", 2];```

[snow viper]

i did that just now

ahh cool

will try that too

[snow viper]

the top command creates an enemy with proper magazine/item inv, the bottom one has the problem

[errant iron]

very weird 🤔

[snow viper]

top command

bottom

(his launcher is also there, just landed away from his body)

had to shoot them to check their inv cause im not on the same team lol

if there is the racing thing going on, couldnt we just strongarm the problem by putting in that delay?

maybe 2 seconds or something before the mags and items are added?

these are supposed to be enemy AI anyway, no chance in hell that they would be seen so soon after spawn

[errant iron]

so your setUnitLoadout should be running on correct locality given that this was added, and it works on units local to your client, but units on DS don't get addMagazines and etc., both for editor placed and scripted units...

[snow viper]

here is the log again

[snow viper]

i followed this suggestion and put in the logging

we get this log output even on the second command, that results in the empty inventory

_grp = group player; 
_args = ["bb_fac_kla_militia_rat", _pos, [], 0, "NONE"]; 
 
[_grp, _args] remoteExec ["createUnit", 2];```