arma3_scripting

[past wagon]

ok

[tough abyss]

At some point it's either put up with some network desync or use a different method for moving the vehicle

Perfect network sync isn't gonna happen

[little raptor]

there is one thing you can do

use local vehicles
if you don't want to use AI at all

[past wagon]

well I'd much rather just have the pilot fly the plane in a straight path than use setVelocityTransformation, anyway, if that would have the same effect

[tough abyss]

I mean yeah but

[past wagon]

I'm fine with having an AI fly the plane, as long as it wouldn't be unreliable

I need it to go in a line

[little raptor]

if you use setFlyInHeightASL it should

[past wagon]

ok

sweet

[little raptor]

doesn't have set
flyInHeightASL

[past wagon]

got it

thanks

and what about the dir? I can't have it switching direction, even a tiny bit

[tough abyss]

Also strip out any additional behavior from the ai you don't need to make it more stable

[little raptor]

setting it to careless is enough imo

[tough abyss]

Should be

[past wagon]

ok...

[tough abyss]

Theoretically 😓

[little raptor]

set the dir when you spawn it

[past wagon]

ok

[little raptor]

_plane setDir (_start getDir _end)

[tough abyss]

Simply punish the ai with setDamage when it moves to enforce compliance >:)

[little raptor]

and make sure you change setPos to setPosASL

[tough abyss]

The punishment for using setPos is death

Pretend it doesn't exist it's for the better

Honestly biki page for setPos should just force redirect to setPosWorld

[brazen lagoon]

how would you find magazines for a unit classname?

[little raptor]

you mean magazines that it carries by default?

[brazen lagoon]

yes

if you have a spawned unit you can just do primaryweapon and look in cfgweapons

basically is there a helper fn for getting config weapons for a unit classname + for getting mags for that

[little raptor]

using its linked uniform/vest/backpack

and the magazines entry ofc

[brazen lagoon]

well i just want to get all mags allowed for all weapons of a unit

[little raptor]

wait I'm confused

magazines it carries?

or compatible mags?

[brazen lagoon]

yes so. given a unit classname. i want to get all compatible mags for all weapons that unit has

[little raptor]

e.g. an ammo bearer carriers AT rounds but he doesn't have a launcher

[brazen lagoon]

yeah that doesn't matter to me

[little raptor]

BIS_fnc_compatibleMagazines

and after v2.10 update, compatibleMagazines command

[brazen lagoon]

ok. that's for getting mags for a weapon classname

so i just need to get those from config

[little raptor]

yes

I think there might be a function for that too

[brazen lagoon]

yeah i couldnt find it

[little raptor]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_weaponsEntityType

looks like it doesn't return muzzles

you have to get those yourself

[brazen lagoon]

oh wait. just doing CfgVehicles >> _classname >> magazines[] might be good enough

[little raptor]

it's not

it only shows mags added to the unit itself, and has nothing to do with compatible mags

[brazen lagoon]

yeah, that's good enough I think. this is for having an 'arsenal' for refilling ammo

[past wagon]

private _plane = createVehicle ["B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_blue_F", [0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "FLY"];
private _pilotGroup = createGroup blufor;
_pilotGroup deleteGroupWhenEmpty true;
private _pilot = _pilotGroup createUnit ["B_Pilot_F", [0, 0, 0], [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
_pilot moveInDriver _plane;
_pilot setBehaviour "CARELESS";
_plane flyInHeightASL [1000, 1000, 1000];
_plane setPosASL _planeStartPos;
_plane setDir (_planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos);
```Right now this is what I have, and the plane is changing direction. what parts of the pilot's AI should I disable?

[granite sky]

Doesn't "FLY" actually create the aircraft at a much lower altitude than the input?

So the flyInHeight is asking it to climb hard.

[past wagon]

hmm

well if I don't create it in "FLY", then the engine isnt on

but when I do _plane setPosASL _planeStartPos, that sets it to the correct height

[tough abyss]

private _dir = _planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos;
[_plane, _dir] spawn {
  params["_plane", "_dir"];
  while {true} do {
    _plane setDir _dir;
    sleep 1;
  };
};

this could also help as a bit of a "bruteforce" solution to keeping the dir constant

though likely that it will still have some sync issues in MP

[past wagon]

I tried this but I'm pretty sure it froze the plane midair

[tough abyss]

shouldn't affect velocity

and yes I know it's gross but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[little raptor]

changing direction
vertically? (as in pitch)

[past wagon]

nope

[little raptor]

also you need to add a move/waypoint or something

[past wagon]

just heading

[past wagon]

ok...

[tough abyss]

I assume you have a waypoint set up externally...?

elsewise not sure how you're even getting the pilot to move to the pos

[past wagon]

I don't, setting it up now

[past wagon]

when you say "move/waypoint", is the "move" something other than a waypoint?

[tough abyss]

test it with a waypoint and then if it's still behaving weirdly then gross measures may be in order

[past wagon]

can I just do _pilotGroup move _planeEndPos?

private _plane = createVehicle ["B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_blue_F", [0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "FLY"];
_dir = _planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos;
[_plane, _dir] spawn {
    params ["_plane", "_dir"];
    while { !isNil "_plane" } do {
        _plane setDir _dir;
        sleep 1;
    };
};
clearItemCargoGlobal _plane;
clearBackpackCargoGlobal _plane;
private _pilotGroup = createGroup blufor;
_pilotGroup deleteGroupWhenEmpty true;
private _pilot = _pilotGroup createUnit ["B_Pilot_F", [0, 0, 0], [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
_pilotGroup move _planeEndPos;
_pilot moveInDriver _plane;
_pilot action ["VTOLVectoring", _plane];
for "_i" from 1 to 3 do {
    _pilot action ["VectoringDown", _plane];
};
_pilot setBehaviour "CARELESS";
_plane flyInHeightASL [1000, 1000, 1000];
_plane setPosASL _planeStartPos;
_plane setDir (_planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos);
_plane lock 2;
```This is what I currently have

[tough abyss]

I mean you can use move

but you'd want to use addWaypoint for a standard waypoint

[past wagon]

what's the difference?

[tough abyss]

_pilotGroup addWaypoint [_planeEndPos, 0];

[past wagon]

ok

that's all I need tho, I don't need to set the waypoint type or anything?

[_plane, _dir] spawn {
    params ["_plane", "_dir"];
    while { !isNil "_plane" } do {
        _plane setDir _dir;
        sleep 1;
    };
};
```Also this does make the plane freeze mid-air

[tough abyss]

ah shoot forgot setDir resets velocity

could do

private _dir = _planeStartPos vectorFromTo _planeEndPos;
[_plane, _dir] spawn {
  params["_plane", "_dir"];
  while {true} do {
    _plane setVectorDir _dir;
    sleep 1;
  };
};

would just need to make sure the Z pos of the start and end positions are the same so it doesn't pitch (unless you want it to?)

[past wagon]

yup

ok thanks

yeah this is awful

the plane is still frozen and it is wobbling worse than ever lol

maybe I should go back to setVelocityTransformation?

I don't think I'll be able to get the pilot's AI to do what i want

it's a very long distance and I need it to fly perfectly straight

[little raptor]

even on the server?

[past wagon]

yes

well, with this:

private _plane = createVehicle ["B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_blue_F", [0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "FLY"];
_dir = _planeStartPos vectorFromTo _planeEndPos;
[_plane, _dir] spawn {
    params ["_plane", "_dir"];
    while { !isNil "_plane" } do {
        _plane setVectorDir _dir;
        sleep 1;
    };
};

private _pilotGroup = createGroup blufor;
_pilotGroup deleteGroupWhenEmpty true;
private _pilot = _pilotGroup createUnit ["B_Pilot_F", [0, 0, 0], [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
_pilotGroup move _planeEndPos;
_pilot moveInDriver _plane;
_pilot setBehaviour "CARELESS";
_plane flyInHeightASL [1000, 1000, 1000];
_plane setPosASL _planeStartPos;
_plane setDir (_planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos);

[tough abyss]

did you try it with the waypoint without the bruteforce spawn

[past wagon]

not sure, I'll try that now

[little raptor]

show me a vid

[tough abyss]

bruteforce was meant to be a last resort 😛

[past wagon]

just imagine the plane frozen mid-air, the pilot constantly trying to fly the plane down, and the plane's dir being reset every second

[little raptor]

then the problem is the plane's height

the AI is trying to move lower

[past wagon]

nah

the plane gets created at the right altitude, then set to the right altitude, then flown at that altitude

[past wagon]

also pretty sure the plane wasnt actually frozen at that point, but yeah

[little raptor]

well you're flyInHeight could be wrong

what is the Z in plane's start pos?

[tough abyss]

perhaps try flyInHeight instead of flyInHeightASL as well, as flyInHeightASL has this note: Sets the minimal ASL height. Final height is flyInHeight max flyInHeightASL - the higher altitude has priority.

[little raptor]

_plane flyInHeightASL [1000, 1000, 1000];
you might want to do that with delay

[tough abyss]

though then again it might not matter if flyInHeight is never set

[past wagon]

1000

[little raptor]

private _plane = createVehicle ["B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_blue_F", [0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "FLY"];
_plane setDir (_planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos);
private _pilotGroup = createGroup blufor;
_pilotGroup deleteGroupWhenEmpty true;
private _pilot = _pilotGroup createUnit ["B_Pilot_F", [0, 0, 0], [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
_pilotGroup addWaypoint [_planeEndPos, -1];
_pilot moveInDriver _plane;
_pilot setBehaviour "CARELESS";
[_plane, _planeStartPos, _planeEndPos] spawn {
  params ["_plane", "_planeStartPos", "_planeEndPos"];
  sleep 1;
  _plane flyInHeightASL [_planeStartPos#2, _planeStartPos#2, _planeStartPos#2];
  _plane setPosASL _planeStartPos;
  _plane setDir (_planeStartPos getDir _planeEndPos);
};
_plane setPosASL _planeStartPos;

@past wagon try that ^

[past wagon]

what does the #2 do?

[little raptor]

select 2

[past wagon]

ah

oh right

why would anyone use select then?

[little raptor]

it's older

[tough abyss]

because select has alternate syntaxes as well

[little raptor]

# is newer and not known by many

[past wagon]

yea

[tough abyss]

and also has different operator priority

...precedence

that's the word I'm looking for

[past wagon]

yeah ima start using that now, much cleaner

[past wagon]

yeah I read about that

[tough abyss]

select is mainly still useful in that it allows for selecting ranges and filtering

which # does not

and iirc # isn't compatible with bools like select is

so no using it for compact if statements

[past wagon]

okay so for some reason the plane is starting like 100m higher than the startPos Z, so it is flying down at the start. I think this is because of "FLY" in createVehicle. Second, it is still switching direction and moving off the path, which I cant have even a little bit

yeah

I'm gonna go back to setVelocityTransformation for now, because I got that working a lot better than it was before, without the pilot

[little raptor]

so now I have a question about that one. can you create it locally?

[past wagon]

the vehicle?

[little raptor]

yes

[past wagon]

well, the vehicle is used to transport all the players on the server at once

I'm currently doing that on the server, not sure what doing that locally would look like, or if I even could

[little raptor]

well each player would be in their own local vehicle

[past wagon]

yeah I couldnt do that lol

[little raptor]

not sure if they would disappear tho

[past wagon]

oh

[little raptor]

but if they don't it should look fine

unless the other players wobble for them

[past wagon]

well all the players need to be taken across the same flight path at the same time

there would be a boom I think

[little raptor]

no

the vehicles are local. they don't even see the other player's vehicle

[past wagon]

so the vehicle dont exit for the other players?

[little raptor]

yes

it's just an idea tho

but worth a try

[past wagon]

yeah, I feel like it would mess up the mission a bit

I mean, I like the players being able to see each other inside the vehicle, it would be weird if they couldnt

[tough abyss]

well they would see each-other

it's just that...

[little raptor]

well you never know unless you try

[tough abyss]

[past wagon]

floating through the air?

[little raptor]

they are floating

but you still see your own plane

[past wagon]

lmfao

[little raptor]

so it looks like they're actually in your plane

[tough abyss]

assuming they're synced well enough it should look normal-ish...

[past wagon]

would it be synced that well tho?

[tough abyss]

I mean it comes down to what you care about more

[little raptor]

^

[tough abyss]

the plane being smooth or players being smooth

[past wagon]

is there really no way to just get a normal plane flight for all players across the map in a straight line?

[tough abyss]

arma has a wonderful way of making seemingly simple goals very hard to accomplish

a bitter pill to swallow

[past wagon]

yeah

well, what I have right now is all right

[open fractal]

doMove on the pilot doesn't work?

[past wagon]

uh

[little raptor]

try this:

private _plane = "B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_blue_F" createVehicleLocal _planeStartPos;
_plane setVehiclePosition [[0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "FLY"];
clearItemCargoGlobal _plane;
clearBackpackCargoGlobal _plane;
_plane setPosASL _planeStartPos;

private _startTime = serverTime;
addMissionEventHandler ["EachFrame", {
        _thisArgs params ["_plane", "_planeStartPos", "_planeEndPos", "_startTime"];
        private _vectorDir = _planeStartPos vectorFromTo _planeEndPos;
        if (_vectorDir vectorCos (getPosASL _plane vectorFromTo _planeEndPos) <= 0) exitWith {
            removeMissionEventHandler ["EachFrame", _thisEventHandler];
        };
        private _vectorUp = _vectorDir vectorCrossProduct [0, 0, 1] vectorCrossProduct _vectorDir;
        private _velocity = _vectorDir vectorMultiply 100;
        private _distance = _planeStartPos vectorDistance _planeEndPos;
        private _interval = (time - _startTime) / (_distance / 100);
        _plane setVelocityTransformation [
            _planeStartPos,
            _planeEndPos,
            _velocity,
            _velocity,
            _vectorDir,
            _vectorDir,
            _vectorUp,
            _vectorUp,
            _interval
        ];
}, [_plane, _planeStartPos, _planeEndPos, _startTime]];

[past wagon]

I don't think trying to get an AI pilot to fly a plane on a perfectly straight path for several kilometers will ever work

[little raptor]

this is local btw
should be done in initPlayerLocal.sqf

[open fractal]

I did it with a helicopter in my mission

[past wagon]

like, it didnt deviate from the path even 5 meters?

[open fractal]

no afaik I set the direction and velocity and it continued on the path

[past wagon]

hmm

[tough abyss]

did you get it to sync well in MP though

clearly the solution here is to hide all of the other players and make local object clones of them to sit in the local plane 😭

[past wagon]

yeah the other player is like 100m in front of the plane and this is over LAN

[little raptor]

actually I used serverTime

which is wrong

[past wagon]

also the plane just looks buggy in general, the wheels keep appearing and disappearing

[little raptor]

it doesn't give the mission start time

[past wagon]

hmm

I prefer my old method anyway

it'll work

[tough abyss]

setVelocityTransformation is about the best solution possible

the limits of MP sync are fairly fundamentally unavoidable

[little raptor]

you didn't add an AI to it again right?

[past wagon]

no

okay, now I have a bit of a predicament. I am using the following code without a pilot, and the plane essentially looks fine:

private _plane = createVehicle ["B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_blue_F", [0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "FLY"];
clearItemCargoGlobal _plane;
clearBackpackCargoGlobal _plane;
_plane setPos _planeStartPos;
_plane lock 2;
private _startTime = time;
addMissionEventHandler ["EachFrame", {
        _thisArgs params ["_plane", "_planeStartPos", "_planeEndPos", "_startTime"];
        private _vectorDir = _planeStartPos vectorFromTo _planeEndPos;
        if (_vectorDir vectorCos (getPosASL _plane vectorFromTo _planeEndPos) <= 0) exitWith {
            removeMissionEventHandler ["EachFrame", _thisEventHandler];
        };
        private _vectorUp = _vectorDir vectorCrossProduct [0, 0, 1] vectorCrossProduct _vectorDir;
        private _velocity = _vectorDir vectorMultiply 100;
        private _distance = _planeStartPos vectorDistance _planeEndPos;
        private _interval = (time - _startTime) / (_distance / 100);
        _plane setVelocityTransformation [
            _planeStartPos,
            _planeEndPos,
            _velocity,
            _velocity,
            _vectorDir,
            _vectorDir,
            _vectorUp,
            _vectorUp,
            _interval
        ];
}, [_plane, _planeStartPos, _planeEndPos, _startTime]];
```However, I need a pilot in order to do this code:
```sqf
_pilot action ["VTOLVectoring", _plane];
for "_i" from 1 to 3 do {
    _pilot action ["VectoringDown", _plane];
};
```The problem is, even when I disable the pilot's AI, it still has the wobbly effect on the plane.

[tough abyss]

could just briefly spawn a temporary pilot

[past wagon]

I also tried doing this:

[_pilot] spawn {
    sleep 5;
    deleteVehicle _pilot;
};
```but the pilot doesnt get deleted for some reason

oh

haha

[tough abyss]

lol

[past wagon]

yeah, it works

I hope none of my players notice that there is nobody flying the plane

[tough abyss]

doing

_pilot disableAI "all";

didn't stop it from messing up the movement?

[past wagon]

nope

[sweet pendant]

Hi, I'm currently having issues with getMissionPath-Command. Although the mission I'm using is packed as a PBO and has a custom name, all paths returned refer to mpmissions/__cur_mp.altis. Is there anything I'm missing here? As a side note: this is a MP mission tested on a locally hosted dedicated server instance. Thought I might ask here before opening a ticket on the feedback tracker...

[little raptor]

afaik that's the path extracted to the local app data of Arma 3

but it should work nonetheless

or do you mean that the paths are not correct when returned like that?

[frail ermine]

Is there a way to use Cruise Control on AI? I’m trying to do a parade

[little raptor]

you can use setDriveOnPath

[granite sky]

limitSpeed is fine too.

[frail ermine]

Ok, thanks

[granite sky]

I use limitSpeed to control convoy spacing, works surprisingly well.

[wanton swallow]

Hi. I can't to add Mission EH EntityCreated. This code generates error:

addMissionEventHandler ["EntityCreated", {
    params ["_entity"];
}];

17:12:48 Error in expression <addMissionEventHandler ["EntityCreated",>
17:12:48   Error position: <addMissionEventHandler ["EntityCreated",>
17:12:48   Error Внешняя ошибка: Unknown enum value: "EntityCreated"

[hallow mortar]

I'm pretty sure EntityCreated doesn't exist until the next update

[wanton swallow]

Oh. Yes, i see we have 2.08 for now 🙂

[hallow mortar]

2.10 is expected to land in mid to late August

[sweet pendant]

yes.
in 3den it works fine, but for the MP dedicated server mission it returns mpmissions\__cur_mp.altis instead of mpmissions\mymission.altis and I can't seem to find a reason

[tough abyss]

is there an easy way of making particles like the enfusion workbench for arma 3? or do i have to change a particle array manually until its better?

[hallow mortar]

There's a mod called...Particle 3ditor, I think? Something like that. It has a UI for making particle effects (out of existing components and properties) and shows the effect live in the editor. I've found it to be a little unstable but the live preview is useful.

[hallow mortar]

I've got a feeling that is correct and that's just how DS handles the current mission. That path should still lead to the right files so it shouldn't break anything (source: have used that command on DS without problems)

If you need to display the file name for some reason you could try missionName or missionNameSource.

[sweet pendant]

it is definitely not correct that's the problem.
Arma saves mission files in mpmissions with the same name the PBO has on the server side. __cur_mp.altis is the filename, if the mission is provided as a directory instead of PBO. so effectively it points to the wrong file. to make matters worse, even replacing __cur_mp with a copy of my mission file did not yield results that's why I'm thinking this might be an issue with the command itself

So I'm pretty sure now, that this is broken. I checked again and it works in singleplayer and hosted MP, dedicated MP however seems to break it. I'm going to head over to the feedback tracker for this. thanks for the input 🙂

[quiet geyser]

Is there any reason that the below script would cause issues on a dedicated server, being executed from a trigger?

call{{_x setdammage 0; _x setfuel 1; _x setVehicleAmmo 1; _x call ace_medical_treatment_fnc_fullHeal;} forEach thislist;}

Activation requirements are Any Player Present, repeatable, 60/60/60 Timeout timer

[winter rose]

issues as?

[quiet geyser]

Any, I'm just curious if I've made any errors in the way it's written.

Basically I want it set up such that if someone drives a vehicle in, it'll completely repair, refuel and rearm said vehicle, as well as healing anybody in the trigger using ACE's full heal function.

[winter rose]

well, ask if it would cause issues then! 😄
check locality for commands/functions, also check if the trigger is server-only

and remove that useless call {} wrap

also setDamage hahaha

[tough abyss]

Does call actually do anything beyond change scope?

[little raptor]

What I meant is that if you use that path as the path to a picture for example, is the path invalid?
If it's not then there's nothing wrong there

[tough abyss]

call{{_x setdammage 0; _x setfuel 1; _x setVehicleAmmo 1; _x call ace_medical_treatment_fnc_fullHeal;} forEach thislist;} would be redundant because it's already running unscheduled as far as I know

[little raptor]

Call doesn't run unscheduled

[tough abyss]

But is blocking correct?

It requires a return type?

[little raptor]

No, and no

[tough abyss]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/call

[little raptor]

idk what you mean by is blocking

[tough abyss]

Adds given set of compiled instructions to the current stack and waits for it to finish and return, provides an option to pass arguments to the executed Code. See Scheduler to learn more about how the code is excuted and behaves.

[little raptor]

Are you seriously showing me a wiki page?!

[tough abyss]

?

[little raptor]

Like I said, call doesn't run unscheduled
It just executes the code

[tough abyss]

Only referring to what was said there...

When i said blocking meaning it waits for a return before proceeding.

[little raptor]

It doesn't "wait" for anything

It's part of the current code

[tough abyss]

"Adds given set of instructions to the stack and waits for it to finish and return" Is the wiki wrong?

[little raptor]

No

At least what it's trying to say is not wrong

[tough abyss]

...

[little raptor]

The problem is the word wait. There's no waiting

When you write: if (condition) then code, do you "wait"?

[tough abyss]

If it's an if condition no.

If it's an endless loop yes

[little raptor]

Call is the same thing

[tough abyss]

Why do so many scripting commands do redundant things...

[little raptor]

I didn't say it's redundant. I just don't like using the word wait here

[tough abyss]

If no return type is specified will call lock up a script?

[little raptor]

It always "locks it up", regardless of return

[tough abyss]

So waits for it to finish?

IF it gets a return type?

[little raptor]

It always "waits" for it to finish

[tough abyss]

You just said it didn't...

[warm hedge]

regardless

[little raptor]

I meant using the word wait is wrong here. That's all

It just runs sequentially

What's there to wait for?

[tough abyss]

A return type?

I've actually experienced it first hand.

[little raptor]

I don't think you understand my point. nvm

Let's just say it waits...

[winter rose]

basically:
call is just like copy-pasting code at its location, that's it

so it has to process the code before jumping to the rest

no returns? no problem.

[tough abyss]

Still vague...

[winter rose]

call doesn't change scope, it adds code to the current one

that's it.

[little raptor]

I guess the problem is you're thinking of sqf like other languages

It's kinda unique in some ways tho

You can't compare everything

[tough abyss]

So am I right to assume under the hood everything is a bowl of spaghetti?

I wish the Java programming project BI was working on was actually done...

[little raptor]

If you get what a "code" in sqf is it will make sense
Again:

if (true) then {...};
// Or
if (true) then my_function

Is the same as:

call {...};
// Or
call my_function

[tough abyss]

Okay. Lets go a bit more in depth? Are even control structures commands?

And what is compiled code according to arma?

Is it bytecode?

[little raptor]

Afaik yes

[little raptor]

Yes

if is a unary command

If BOOL, and returns IF

then is binary, IF then CODE, and returns whatever the code returns (if the condition was true)

[winter rose]

and yes

[tough abyss]

I've seen a tool being used around

called ArmAcriptCompiler.exe ?

Is that just translating to raw byte code?

and the VM just executes it without any care?

[copper raven]

that's translating to bytecode, and the engine translates bytecode to whatever internal structure it uses for the instructions and what not

call creates a scope and runs some code, whatever is left on the stack is pushed back onto calling scope's stack(call command's return value, literally like any other command), call is blocking yes, but blocking in it's actual context, not entire scriptvm, if you use scheduled code for example

and that "pushing back" behavior appears pretty much everywhere, do, then forEach and other commands

and no there are no control structures,

_alive = alive player;
_if = if _alive;
_else = [{"alive"}, {"dead"}];
hint (_if then _else);

is valid

[warm hedge]

Never thought about it 🤣 Looks cursed

[winter rose]

looks cursed? it absolutely is
thanks for the nightmares sharp. 😄

[sweet pendant]

it is, that's the point

[proven charm]

can you somehow remove player from the slot in the lobby?

[winter rose]

not afaik

[proven charm]

hmm except via kick I guess

[winter rose]

that would be considered rude

[warm hedge]

But rule might be rude

[proven charm]

I agree 😄

so not good option...

[quiet geyser]

On the off chance anyone here knows, for those of you familiar with the ALiVE framework and its Virtual AI system, is there a way to set it up such that vehicles will devirtualize further away than infantry (as standard and set by the Virtual AI module)?

[winter rose]

https://sqfbin.com/ezacazaboluvozayodiv :-)

[quiet geyser]

Thanks, will take a look at that now. Out of curiosity, is the cooldown on the backpack being moved or just using the action itself? Ie will trying to hit it when enemies are nearby cause it to "eat" the cooldown?

[winter rose]

when the movement is done

you should also add a check for screenToWorld return value - if someone looks at the sky, you will get an error

also, the person could use binoculars and put the respawn point 5km away

[quiet geyser]

Cool, thanks. I'll have a look at getting it into the mission and see how it goes.

[quiet geyser]

21:54:47 Error in expression <markerName];

private _actionId = _unit addAction ["Place Rally Point", {
params>
21:54:47   Error position: <addAction ["Place Rally Point", {
params>
21:54:47   Error Type String, expected Bool
21:54:47 File C:\Users\Jesse\Documents\Arma 3 - Other Profiles\Fuzzle\mpmissions\Eisenwand1.WL_Rosche\onPlayerRespawn.sqf..., line 12```

[winter rose]

stop breaking my code

[quiet geyser]

Forgive me, my copy paste skills are clearly not sufficient

[winter rose]

at least I fixed the _unit → _target thing

ah yes
forgot a nil, before 1.5,

@quiet geyser while I'm at it, wanna set a max distance from leader?

like, can't place the spawn 200m away

[quiet geyser]

No that's all good, the primary purpose of this is so that a squad leader can place a rally point in a secure point before their element assaults through a town/objective etc. So making it so that you need to be within x distance to respawn would potentially break things on larger urban objectives.

[winter rose]

no no, I mean

your code says "if there are no enemies around the leader then place the spawn point wherever you want" (a.k.a 10km away, right in the middle of enemies, etc)

[quiet geyser]

oh wait, you mean so that when you're placing it, the point it's getting placed needs to be within x distance of the guy placing it?

[hallow mortar]

think of it as a limitation on the length of the squad leader's arms

[winter rose]

yeah, kinda 😄

[quiet geyser]

oh yeah if you know a good way to do it I'll take it; placing within like 5 meters would be fine

[winter rose]

"hey, I'm in a safe place - let's put the spawn point in that enemy camp I see on the hill through my binoculars"

[winter rose]

would that please you?
https://sqfbin.com/owodoyiqirujaqiniqac

[quiet geyser]

My goodness you're a machine

testing now

Works like a charm!

[winter rose]

one could also add the cooldown timer in the action but that should be good for now ^^
I have a local version where the action doesn't appear if the location is too far away, wanna?

[quiet geyser]

There is exactly one other thing that could improve it, and make it exactly like Project Reality's rally point system which was sort of the goal: is there any way to make it check if there are group members within a certain distance? Ideally I'd like it to require at least 1 other group member (not including the squad leader) within 10 meters.

If you can get that working, you should seriously publish the script online as I know tons of people love the PR spawn system, and a rally point system that works like this is dead-on.

[quiet geyser]

Nah as it is works great.

[winter rose]

check if there are group members within a certain distance? Ideally I'd like it to require at least 1 other group member (not including the squad leader) within 10 meters.
gimme 5

[warm hedge]

5... I gave it you!

[winter rose]

https://sqfbin.com/juyililolizuzumelibe

[quiet geyser]

Very nice, thanks again

What does MIN_MOVE_DISTANCE do?

[winter rose]

if you want to prevent the guy moving the spawn point by 1m

[quiet geyser]

oh right, nice.

[winter rose]

I wanted to set it to e.g 200m, but I thought "what if the pole is misplaced and the person just wants to put it e.g behind that building"

I could also add another parameter to decide how many group members should be there (1, 5, 500)

[quiet geyser]

Yeah honestly just having it as a control for misclicking the scroll menu right next to the previous one is good.

[quiet geyser]

Apparently there are words I thought were benign that are not benign, learning experience.

Anyway, this sounds good

[winter rose]

how so? (sounds good as in "yeah add it?")

[quiet geyser]

Yes, sounds good as in the affirmative, get it in there

[winter rose]

I also didn't get

there are words I thought were benign that are not benign, learning experience.
?

[quiet geyser]

I tried to type shorter-word-for-overweight-fingered rather than misclick and got a finger-wag from the server

[winter rose]

oh. yyyeah, I got a 1 min cooldown myself for explaining a word I did ***star out

[quiet geyser]

But yeah, that aside, a parameter to set how many people need to be nearby sounds good 😅

[winter rose]

oooh, a bug

15:15:03 [GERSL1,"< 1"]
15:15:03 Unknown attribute itemsCmd
15:15:03 Unknown attribute itemsCmd
15:15:03 [B Alpha 1-1:2,"< 1"]
15:15:03 Error in expression <) then
{
diag_log [_this, "< 1"];
_this setUserActionText [_this getVariable "FU>

when selecting another unit (via F2) while the action is up

or "hidden feature", at least
it seems that _this (in addAction's condition) changes depending on who is selected 🤨 😄

[winter rose]

https://sqfbin.com/pigusaxatibeviwaviki ← viki, it's a sign!

[quiet geyser]

Very lovely work. I won't be able to test the group member additions until tomorrow, but thank you very much for all of your work. Like I said, you should really post this script up somewhere. I can think of a ton of people who would want to use it.

[winter rose]

well, I don't know of any public SQF scripts library so far but maybe one day 😉 feel free to share to lovely people needing it

[quiet geyser]

Excellent work again. Cheers, and I'll let you know if there's any issues with it in a live server environment tomorrow

[winter rose]

Customer Service ready for action, sir!

[spiral temple]

Is there any scripting function that overwrites the vehicle config value of armor? I just found setVehicleArmor but it's just like setDamage

[winter rose]

no

[tough abyss]

couldnt you just use set object scale on a smaller vic and then detect when its dead then create a satchel charge and blow it up? i know it's be a bit of work but it might work

[jolly dune]

Hii, guys can you help me with something?

Basically I need this to work on server, it works on AI unit in singeplayer but im not sure how to implement it on dedicated server.. I need a unit to be just bigger, thats all.

[] spawn {
while {alive dude1} do {
dude1 setObjectScale 0.3;
};
};

[winter rose]

don't
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setObjectScale

Setting the scale of non-simple objects, such as vehicles with players/AI in them, static objects (simulation = "house" in config), etc. might be possible, but not officially supported. You may encounter issues.

see notes (performance would be awful)

[jolly dune]

Thanks for the info. I would like to try it anyway to see the results.. But no matter how I try to do it on the server the size does not change. It does change while I am in singleplayer tho.

[hallow mortar]

setObjectScale requires local arguments so you need to make sure it's executed where the affected unit is local (or possibly even everywhere since its behaviour may not be normal)

[open fractal]

on each frame as well not just in a while loop

[winter rose]

see notes
:-)

[open fractal]

those were clearly written just to be skimmed over and ignored

[leaden ibex]

I am back with another question!
disableAI https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableAI - If the unit changes locality, this command might need to be executed again at the new locality to maintain effect.
Is there a way to detect if locality has changed?
Is all AI by default "owned" by the server? Once a player joins and "takes over", is that unit owned by the player? If this player leaves, is the unit (AI) owned by the server again?

I've got this script

{
  _x disableAI "AUTOTARGET";
  _x disableAI "TARGET";
  _x disableAI "FSM";
  _x disableAI "MOVE";
  _x stop true;
  _x setBehaviour "CARELESS";
  _x allowFleeing 0;
  _x disableConversation true;
  _x setVariable ["BIS_noCoreConversations", false];
  _x setSpeaker "NoVoice";
} forEach playableUnits;

Do I just run it once on mission start, or do I also need to create a handler for HandleDisconnect and run it again with the unit as a parameter?
So far it never worked 100%, so any insight into this is really welcome!

[winter rose]

there is a "local" EH

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Local 🙂

[leaden ibex]

So running this on mission start and then every time the Local event get's fired should get the job done?
(AI should just stand still, if player disconnects, the AI should just "freeze")

[winter rose]

TBH I am not sure about

If the unit changes locality, this command might need to be executed again at the new locality to maintain effect.

it might be that the command only works where it has been applied when the object is local
but again, it might also be "the command is ignored if the object is not local", too.

[leaden ibex]

Well, the Local event handler might help me, thank you!
Will experiment with it a little more

[winter rose]

good luck!

[_unit, false] remoteExec ["allowDamage", _unit];
_unit setVariable ["ILBI_allowDamage", false, true];

and in the local EH, get that variable to see if true or false?

[leaden ibex]

Thanks man, I'll report back with either broken framework, or a thank you note

[winter rose]

hehe noice! GL

[winter panther]

I have an addAction that when triggered, runs a script with execVM. Inside the script, I run setDamage [1, false]; on a vehicle. But this doesn't work for some reason. The line is executing, the vehicle is valid and alive, but the setDamage doesn't work. If I run it from the command console, it works. Do anyone know why could this be happening?

this is the script:

params["_veh"];

if (isNil "_veh") exitWith {};
_isDeployed = _veh getVariable ["deployed", false];
_isAlive = alive _veh;
if (!_isDeployed) then {
    if (alive _veh) then {
        _veh setDamage [1, false];
        hint "RESPAWNING";
    };
}
else
{
    hint "VEHICLE IS DEPLOYED. CAN'T RESPAWN";
};

the hint "RESPAWNING" is displayed, but the vehicle doesn't take any damage

setDamage has global params and effect, so it shouldn't be necessary to do remoteExec. I also tried to do remoteExec on the server but didn't work

[winter rose]

can you try to remote execute it where the vehicle is local and report please?

[_veh, [1, false]] remoteExec ["setDamage", _veh];

[winter panther]

Hmm didn't work. I still get the hint, but it's not applying damage. I tried with a different vehicle placed in the editor, and it didn't work either.

if it helps, this is what's in the init field of the object that has the action:

call{
this addAction [["<t color='#FF0000'>", "RESPAWN MHQ", "</t>"] joinString "","scripts\respawnMHQ.sqf", [mhqv1], 1.5, true, true, "", "true", 10];
}

[winter rose]

what if you set it to true?

[hallow mortar]

Are you definitely looking at the right vehicle? I know you've checked that the vehicle is valid, but is it the one you're looking at when you test or might there be a similar one elsewhere you've got mixed up with?

[winter panther]

oh I think I found the problem

addAction sends 4 params to the script, the fourth one is the custom arguments

I was trying to kill the object that has the action

yep, that was the problem. Thanks ppl

[frigid oracle]

What is the best way to spawn a while loop in a mod not mission? I currently have my script setup to execvm 3 scripts inside the XEH_postInit but I feel like its not starting up correctly or something. The first execvm starts up, but the others sometimes does not I feel. My while loops work correctly when I run them in debug console but seems to not startup correctly on mission boot or something.

[slim venture]

Hey guys, does anyone have the python code with opencv to plot the Armas 3 boundingbox in the image (print)?

[little raptor]

sometimes does not
then the problem is the loop itself

[frigid oracle]

well I debug the loop and every condition fires true

when I run the whole loop in debug it runs correctly

so idk if the mod is firing the script up correctly

[little raptor]

mods don't do anything special

so either your postInit EHs are wrong, or the loops themselves

[frigid oracle]

if !(hasInterface) exitWith {};
_handle1 = execVM '\KPP_RadiationSystem_indev\functions\radscore\KPP_RadiationCore.sqf';
_handle2 = execVM '\KPP_RadiationSystem_indev\functions\radscore\KPP_GeigerTicks.sqf';
_handle3 = execVM '\KPP_RadiationSystem_indev\functions\radscore\KPP_WarningBeeps.sqf';

here is what is in my postInit

RadCore works correctly all the time

but the other two seem to not start up all the time

[little raptor]

what do they contain?

[frigid oracle]

while loops

3 loops in total

[little raptor]

I mean I want to see the actual codes

[frigid oracle]

while {radSystemToggle && KPP_Boolean_GeigerCounterWarningBeep && {"KPP_GeigerCounter" in items player}} do {
    if (KPP_Float_RadsValue >= KPP_Int_GeigerCounterWarningBeepThreshold) then {
        playSound "warning_beep";
        sleep 4.5;
    } else {
        sleep 4.5;
    };
};

beeps

while {radSystemToggle && KPP_Boolean_GeigerCounterTicks && KPP_Float_AreaRads >= RadiationValueLight && {!isNil {radObjects select 0} && {"KPP_GeigerCounter" in items player}}} do {
    private _sndList = selectRandom [
        "geiger_1",
        "geiger_2",
        "geiger_3",
        "geiger_4",
        "geiger_5",
        "geiger_6"
    ];
    switch (true) do {
        case (KPP_Float_AreaRads == RadiationValueHigh): {
            playSound "geiger_long";
            sleep 6.05;
        };
        case (KPP_Float_AreaRads == RadiationValueMedium): {
            playSound _sndList;
            sleep (random [0.01, 0.05, 2]);
        };
        case (KPP_Float_AreaRads == RadiationValueLight): {
            playSound _sndList;
            sleep (random [0.01, 0.5, 2]);
        };
    };
};
``` ticks

[little raptor]

have you defined radSystemToggle and KPP_Boolean_GeigerCounterWarningBeep?

[frigid oracle]

yeah

[little raptor]

and other global vars?

where?

[frigid oracle]

hence the condition saying its true

[little raptor]

where did you define them?

[frigid oracle]

XEH_PostInit

[little raptor]

you mean above these?

[frigid oracle]

below

lemme go edit that post real quick

[little raptor]

well for one thing, postInit is scheduled, so it MUST be above it

[frigid oracle]

ah ok

lemme try that then

[little raptor]

for the other:

"KPP_GeigerCounter" in items player

there may not even be a player

your while loop starts working if you switch to another player for example

[frigid oracle]

when I drop the item the condition fires false, when I pick it up true

[little raptor]

my point is that your while loop is not persistent

as soon as it's false, it completely stops

[little raptor]

let's say I drop and pick up the item
the loop will never start again

[frigid oracle]

it updates correctly when the loop is active

issue is think the loop isnt starting up sometimes cause of how im trying to start it or something

[little raptor]

meh just go try it for yourself in debug console to see what I mean...

[frigid oracle]

I have, thats how I confirm the loop works

[little raptor]

so the loop magically starts working after you drop and pick up the item?!

[frigid oracle]

yeah

well no

it stops when I drop it

the behavior I want

and starts when I pick it up

[little raptor]

wait at least 5 seconds

you'll see what I mean

[frigid oracle]

i've only noticed this issues as when I sent the mod to my friend he had the issue of the loops not working

then when he restart the mission to stream and show me it started working all of a sudden

[little raptor]

it will never start again, unless you have an event handler that controls when to start the loop somewhere

[frigid oracle]

Well if that is the case truely what event handler would I need to reduce/fix the issue?

[little raptor]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Take

[frigid oracle]

how does this even handler apply when the unit spawns with the item?

Oh ok I found something interesting

decided to actually use that diag_activeSQFScripts command and found out that geigerticks is actually not running

warningbeeps and core are.

which explains why those two seems to always works fine expect ticks

[woeful quartz]

Anybody got a working flak script that will work on any AA?

[frigid oracle]

strange I think I figured it out

I reduced the amount of stuff being checked in the while condition and it works perfectly now on every startup

I guess while has a limit on what or how much it can check

[little raptor]

no

[little raptor]

I told you why

you have several conditions. if one of them is not true then the while loop stops

and you never restart it, because there is nothing to restart it in your code

[little raptor]

and here was another example

you could easily break it by testing it like that

[brazen lagoon]

how would you filter out weapon classnames that aren't weapons? like how would I filter out binocs and such

[frigid oracle]

Ok yeah I tested it better by not spawning with the Geiger on, now I see what you mean.

[little raptor]

binocs are weapons tho

anyway, using its type

[brazen lagoon]

yeah I mean like, things that don't fire things like. bullets or grenades or so on

I could always check its ammo + simtype

@little raptor do you mean the 'type' config entry?

[little raptor]

yes

[brazen lagoon]

is there an explanation of how that works

[little raptor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brazen lagoon]

lmao

[little raptor]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference

[brazen lagoon]

thanks though

lol it just says its an integer

and nothing else :v

[little raptor]

well 1 is primary

2 is handgun

4 is launcher

and some large number is vehicle weapon

probably 65536

[brazen lagoon]

👍

[winter rose]

plz fill a bit :3

[little raptor]

I don't know what Type=WeaponHardMounted is supposed to mean

[winter rose]

come to my room, I'll show you 😏

[smoky rune]

Is there any command to check if player sees some object (maybe it's tied to raycasting, so command to cast ray from player's eyes to to object and see if intersects anything)?

[little raptor]

lineIntersectsSurfaces

or lineIntersects

or checkVisibility

[little raptor]

it already exists at the top:

[winter rose]

ah, noice! *unlocks the door* you're free then 😄

[little raptor]

btw how did you hashlink within a page? iirc there was a short syntax?

[winter rose]

{{Link|#paragraph}} 🙂

{{Link}} covers ExternalLink and HashLink now

[little raptor]

it doesn't support showing a text instead right?

[winter rose]

it does, but you have to escape that {{=}}!

or use |text= my text with = sign

[tough abyss]

Note to self: do not spend days trying to debug MP performance issues only to find out that they were caused by my friend setting a projectile's speed to the literal speed of light

Interestingly enough it didn't cause any performance drop in SP... somehow

[granite sky]

fun. I wonder if object update rate is scaled proportionally to velocity or something.

[tough abyss]

I'm sure the network loved needing to update its position by 300,000,000 meters every second

[hallow mortar]

What's the difference between unitBackpack and backpackContainer, if any?

[winter rose]

apparently none according to ffur2007slx2_5's note on https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/unitBackpack

[hallow mortar]

Yes, but that's from 2014 so I was just wondering if anything might have changed.

[frigid oracle]

is it possible to get cutText on the top of the screen rather than center or below

[austere wigeon]

Is there a Discord specifically for ACE3? If not, may I ask a scripting question here about it?

[warm hedge]

Yes, and yes anyways https://discord.com/invite/FVkgwggNcZ

[austere wigeon]

Thank you 🙂 It's a fairly simple question...
I want to call ace_medical_fnc_addDamageToUnit which simply takes "Damage" as a number as one of its parameters. But I can't find anywhere what the acceptable "range" of damage should be. Is it 0 to 1? 0 to infinity? I just want to avoid values that would constitute instant death, but there doesn't seem to be any documentation I can find or helpful comments in the source code that would hint at what a sensible number would be.

[granite sky]

I would think the quickest way would be try-it-and-see.

I'm gonna guess it's the same scale as Arma damage values, so roughly 0-1 but potentially larger for headshots etc.

[austere wigeon]

Gives me a start. TYVM

[granite sky]

Bear in mind that with ACE, a small bruise can cause death under the wrong circumstances.

(typically when someone was bandaged up but not stitched)

[austere wigeon]

What is the threshold for death with ACE btw? I always thought it was just too little blood or a stopped heart for too long, but is it more complicated than that?

[open fractal]

see cba settings for that

you can adjust it in addon options

most stuff in ace can be tweaked on your end

including causes of death

[quiet geyser]

@winter rose so, a couple of small bugs I've noticed (can work around them but fixing is obviously better) with the rally point script:
There's a noticeable (roughly 5 second) delay on the object being moved. This may be because the server was under heavy load, and isn't a huge issue.
This one is more important. For whatever reason, after deploying the rally point once, the marker doesn't move, then when you deploy it again, it moves to the previous position. From that point onwards, it's always one "placement" behind where you want it.

[rough summit]

How can i perform helicopter to land?
AI looks so buggy and don't landing after reaching waypoint.

Im spawn helicopter and create vehicle crew

    private _airVehicle = createVehicle [(selectRandom _helicoperClasses), getMarkerPos _spawnMarker, [], 0, "NONE"];
    private _airCrew = createVehicleCrew _airVehicle;

After im create check for spawn and initialize

    waitUntil {!isNull _airCrew &&  !isNull _airVehicle};

Create cargo group and push into group (and vehicle) units

    private _landSoldiersGroup = createGroup [West, true];

    private _squadLeader = _landSoldiersGroup createUnit [_squadLeaderClass, getMarkerPos _spawnMarker, [_spawnMarker], 10, "NONE"];

    _squadLeader moveInCargo _airVehicle;

After that im set destination via

private _reinforcementsOffest = _reinforcementsPosition getPos [(random [100, 150, 200]), random 360];
private _landPos = [_reinforcementsOffest, 1, 500, 15, 0, 30, 0] call BIS_fnc_findSafePos;
private _landPad = createVehicle ["Land_HelipadEmpty_F", _landpos, [], 0, "NONE"];
_airCrew move _landpos;

And set land command where this heli is near of position

while {uiSleep 1; !(isTouchingGround _airVehicle) || !(alive _airVehicle || !isNull _airVehicle) || (count (units _airCrew select {alive _x}) == 0) || ((count (units _landSoldiersGroup select {alive _x}) == 0))} do {
    _airVehicle land "GET OUT"; // "LAND"
};

But heli didn't land 😦
P.S This is part of script (full script contains much more lines)

[tough abyss]

@warm hedge Goal is the spawn rain puddles, as well as create a realistic looking rainfall particle effect coming off roofs

[copper raven]

try using transport unload waypoint

[round scroll]

The Nimitz has a fairly complex init script system where the sub-systems are spawned dynamically and arranged on the carrier. Now if I try to spawn the Nimitz via Zeus on a dedicated server the server crashes with dump files generated. I see 12:05:47 Ref to nonnetwork object 4bf48100# 166167: empty.p3d REMOTE as last message from default_init.sqf for the in-mission init script. I suspect the complete script is broken as somehow the locality of a Zeus spawned entity is not the server, or? I added _nimitz setOwner 2; to the init script, but that probably does not work from init?

[rough summit]

Im found reason. HC

[somber radish]

Anyone with experience building extensions?
I am building a super-simple extension (just copying the example on biStudio.com)
However I am getting this error message:

Trying to load a x86 DLL 'C:\<CENSORED>\@MyExtension\dllExtensionTry_x64.dll' from a 64-bit executable

Any help anyone?

[round scroll]

did you compile it as 64bit extension?

[somber radish]

no

How do I do that?

I just used the build option

and got a dll file

[round scroll]

which make system do you use?

[somber radish]

Visual studio 2019

[round scroll]

quick google pointed to: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/258041/how-to-make-a-64-bit-c-dll.html

[somber radish]

reading..

thank you btw!

I used duck duck go, didnt get a decent result

[somber radish]

@little raptor Nice to see ur still alive, the doc did not help much...
Since you bothered enough to react I guess you want to help?
I am building it in C#,
The page I got here refers to c++, which might be why I cannot see the options that they referred to in the article.

I already went trough:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1159161/how-to-compile-a-64-bits-version-of-my-dll

&&

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50164687/how-to-compile-a-64-bit-dll-written-in-c

[winter rose]

that's… odd
if you see the code, it can hardly do that - are you sure that the variables and marker names are set properly in the array?
Regarding the delay, I call heavy load, indeed Oo

[winter rose]

@rough summit I would recommend you to create a simpler test mission with only your helicopter and the commands you use on it

if it works there, then something in your main mission interferes with it
if it doesn't, the failure is easier to find with 2 units and 20 lines of code instead of 30× this 🙂

[distant oyster]

I have an Eden mod with the following expression:

            expression = "[_this] execVM 'test.sqf';";
``` and the following test.sqf:
```sqf
params ["_box"];
[_box, ["Test Action", {hint "Hello World";}]] remoteExecCall ["addAction", 0, _box];
``` but on the connecting player I get two addActions?

the expression is only evaluated on the server afaik

[somber radish]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/remoteExec

[winter rose]

-0 :-)

[somber radish]

params ["_box"];
[_box, ["Test Action", {hint "Hello World";}]] remoteExecCall ["addAction", 0, _box];

The 0 says that all machines should run this code, in order to run it on the server only use 2, the last param is for JIP (default false)

[_box, ["Test Action", {hint "Hello World";}]] remoteExecCall ["addAction", 2];

or

[_box, ["Test Action", {hint "Hello World";}]] remoteExecCall ["addAction", 0];

[winter rose]

no, - 0 is 0

[somber radish]

oh

[winter rose]

the issue comes from running it from the init
the init runs for the server and for every client, including JIP

[little raptor]

If you go to project properties you should see the option

[distant oyster]

'tis not the init. it's the expression from https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Eden_Editor:_Configuring_Attributes#Entity

[winter rose]

well it might be the same

[distant oyster]

// Expression called when applying the attribute in Eden and at the scenario start
// The expression is called twice - first for data validation, and second for actual saving
// Entity is passed as _this, value is passed as _value
// %s is replaced by attribute config name. It can be used only once in the expression
// In MP scenario, the expression is called only on server.

[somber radish]

I am and I see:

Application
Build
Build Events
Debug
Resources
Services
Settings
Reference Paths
Signing
Code Analysis

And I've looked trough every single option Not finding any option to set it to x64

[winter rose]

called twice? 🤔

[distant oyster]

only in Eden i think

[little raptor]

actually that was the configuration...

I meant this

[distant oyster]

would also not explain why the server does not get two actions (hosted mp)

[quiet geyser]

Yep, they're definitely all implemented as you said to, and the markers and variable names match ingame.

[somber radish]

Unfortunately I am not able to send screenshots here or I would sho you.
I am on that page and just do not get the same option

[winter rose]

I summon @cosmic lichen, your only hope

[somber radish]

And you are getting these options with a C# class library project?

[little raptor]

ofc yes

[somber radish]

Well... I am not...

[little raptor]

maybe you haven't installed the necessary .NET frameworks

[somber radish]

hmm... I'll check...

[leaden ibex]

@somber radish
Right click on the project and go to properties. Choose the Application tab and, on the right side, you have an option called Output Type. You can choose whatever you want; for example, if you want your project to emit a DLL, just choose Class Library.
From: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56044025/visual-studio-2019-exports-c-sharp-program-as-dll-instead-of-exe

(Simple fix, use C++, C++ masterrace )
(In case your add-on/extension becomes popular, you're making the life living hell for Linux admins )

[somber radish]

Oh I am getting the dll, no worries, the problem is that it is in x86 not x64 which is what I need for Arma 3.

[somber radish]

And I am just a lowly highlevel peasant lol

[rough summit]

I fount solution for this problem. Headless client after syncing termiante all waypoints and orders, wiсh script give to the crew group.
But thanks for attention anyway

[winter rose]

indeed, that's quite some intricate setup - cool you found!

[quiet geyser]

Here's the code btw, haven't changed much other than the hints.
https://sqfbin.com/ewuvomoqimigeqisuzor

I checked all the variable names as well, they seem like they line up fine. I doubt those would be it as the respawn_west markers were moving, just one jump behind the bag

Actually, just occurred to me: the delay is what's screwing it. Is there any chance I could trouble you to set the marker move to be after the bag, with a delay of 10 seconds?

To be clear, by bag, I'm referring to the object. We're using a backpack heap for the object lol

[little raptor]

have you disabled the simulation on the "rally point" objects?

[quiet geyser]

No. The issue is just that when there's high load on the server, the script is a bit delayed.

[little raptor]

high load on the server or clients?

did you check diag_activeScripts on the clients?

[quiet geyser]

High load on both. All that needs to move here is the segment of the script which moves the respawn_west markers.

[little raptor]

the only thing I can think of is that the object doesn't get moved instantly because it's not local to the clients

you're trying to fetch the rally point's position and set it on the marker, while it may not have moved at all yet (as you said it yourself, it happens with a 5s delay)

just use the position you set on the rally

_rallyPoint setVehiclePosition [_pos, [], 0, "NONE"];
_markerName setMarkerPos _pos;

_pos set [2, 0]; // on the floor
_pos is always "on the floor"

[proven charm]

what you guys think about first calling endMission on client that's been idling for too long and then after few secs kick him? So that the player slot is freed. This is the best I come up with so far.

endmission so that client sees the reason for the kick

[quiet geyser]

I'm honestly going to wait for @winter rose's input on this as it's his script and a lot of that goes over my head

[winter rose]

even if you aim at a wall?

[proven charm]

anyone know why this works with owner but not with ID? _pw serverCommand format["#exec ban %1", owner _plr];

tried getPlayerUID & getPlayerID

[winter rose]

does ban take uid?

[proven charm]

i tried getPlayerUID

[winter rose]

that's not my question

[proven charm]

sorry did not understand the question then ;D

[winter rose]

does ban take uid?
does the ban server command take a UID as parameter?

see https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Multiplayer_Server_Commands#Arma_3

[proven charm]

according to the wiki it can take "#exec ban nickName" or "#exec ban 47114712" etc

[winter rose]

and all your answers shalt be found

[proven charm]

Ah I was missing quotes . works now! thx!

[little raptor]

Yes

screenToWorld doesn't detect the "wall" anyway

Only terrain

Not sure about water tho

iirc ignored

[winter rose]

noice
I did set this as a safety, I didn't remember the behaviour

so maybe a lineIntersects check would be noice, to be "100% cool"

[quiet geyser]

Any thoughts on getting around server load delay?

[winter rose]

nope 😄 don't get an overloaded server!

[quiet geyser]

is it possible to just put a sleep delay on the marker move?

[winter rose]

the "marker going one step later" that's weird and shouldn't happen

are you sure you did remove all your other "marker moving" scripts?

[little raptor]

This is why it happens

[winter rose]

the marker is setPosed before the object is due to network
try

[_spawnPoint, _posAndOtherArgs] remoteExec ["setPosStuff", _spawnPoint];
[_marker, _pos] remoteExec ["setMarkerPos", _spawnPoint];
```to sync them

[quiet geyser]

where would I put that in the script?

[winter rose]

don't copy/paste it, it's pseudocode 😄

@little raptor this would line them in the JIP queue and update only when it's done I believe

though… because of setVehiclePosition the marker won't be pinpoint on the location

[little raptor]

This is what you had:

_rallyPoint setVehiclePosition [ASLToATL AGLToASL screenToWorld [0.5, 0.5], [], 0, "NONE"];

				private _markerName = _rallyPoint getVariable "FUZ_markerName";
				_markerName setMarkerPos getPosWorld _rallyPoint;

[winter rose]

so yeah, @quiet geyser , line 52

_markerName setMarkerPos getPosWorld _rallyPoint;
// replace with
_markerName setMarkerPos _pos;

[tough abyss]

is there any invisible objects other than the helipad?

[little raptor]

Plenty

[winter rose]

everything with hideObject

[tough abyss]

tried that performance goes down a lot because im attaching a player to it

basically what im doing is having an area that if a player goes into it they start levitating then die

but because pub zeus restrictions

have to try attachto

then set an objects velocity

[winter rose]

aaand… why do you need invisible objects for that?

[tough abyss]

so they cant see it and it is mysterious

i suppose i could try make it small with setobjectscale

[winter rose]

what's wrong with the helipad?

[tough abyss]

no that wouldnt work

isnt it attached to the ground?

[winter rose]

no

well, the decal is, but an invisible helipad itself is in the air if you set it there 🙂

[tough abyss]

ok thanks

[little raptor]

What I said here was not a joke btw 😅

There are other invisible objects

[tough abyss]

cfg names etc?

[little raptor]

I don't remember
On mobile rn

[tough abyss]

ah ok dw ill find a fix

[winter rose]

your memory is influenced by your equipment?

[little raptor]

I don't use my memory for that stuff 😅

[winter rose]

good 😁 db exist for a reason

[tough abyss]

database's are best setup on excel change my mind

[little raptor]

Ok for example the user texture objs

They're invisible by default

[winter rose]

has flashbacks of his first job in IT where people transferred a 10MB xls file as client database - BY MAIL

[tough abyss]

how much therapy?

[winter rose]

in the first two months I created on the side a db + a web interface for customer service logging (yeah, they tried to make me write on PAPER for every call) - they didn't renew my trial period, and they signed me immediately 😁

[tough abyss]

the real question is was this early bohemia interactive?

[winter rose]

it was 12 years and 5 months ago 😎 in France

[quiet geyser]

An aside and unrelated to my rally point thing, having an issue where for whatever reason players that should be able to can't call in any support. Support provider modules are synced to the requester module, a HQ unit is present and being read by the modules. The link from the players who should be able to call the support are applied by a short line in their init:

[RTO,SuppReq] call BIS_fnc_addSupportLink;```
This works just fine locally, but for clients on a dedicated server it's not a fan. What's a good way around this?

[winter rose]

run a player-hosted server? 😛

[quiet geyser]

Yeah, performance issues would bugger that very hard. Is there a better way to apply this line on both server and clients, and make sure it applies on respawn? I would assume onPlayerRespawn.sqf is the way to do it, but I need to make ti so that it's only for certain variable names

[winter rose]

doesn't it lack providerModule?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_addSupportLink

[quiet geyser]

that's what SuppReq is

RTO is placeholder for a player variable name (there are a few), SuppReq is the requester module which is itself connected to the providers

[winter rose]

[requesterUnit, requesterMod, providerMod]
I count three parameters

[RTO,SuppReq]
I count two arguments

RTO is placeholder for a player variable name
use player then?

[tough abyss]

prepare for some bad formatting
ok so im getting a no ; error at _Ent = createVehicle "Land_HelipadEmpty_F" #position pos1;
pos1 is defined as an init name which i believe is global

_Ent = createVehicle "Land_HelipadEmpty_F"  position pos1;
_Array1 = _Ent nearEntities ["Man", "Car", 5];
_obj1 = createVehicle "Land_HelipadEmpty_F" _Array1;
_Array1 attachTo [,_obj1 [0, 0, 0]];
_obj1 setVelocity [, 0, 0, 10];
_posATL = _Ent modelToWorld [0, 0, 10];
_ps1 = "#particlesource" createVehicleLocal _posATL;
_ps1 setParticleParams [["\A3\data_f\ParticleEffects\Universal\Universal.p3d",16,13,2,0],"","Billboard",0.07,5,[0,0,0],[0,0,6],0,4,7.9,0.1,[0.5],[[0.251196,0.0512141,0.401182,1]],[1000],1,0,"","","",0,false,0,[[0,0,0,0]]];
_ps1 setParticleRandom [1,[2,2,2],[0,0,15],20,0,[0,0,0,0],0,0,1,0];
_ps1 setParticleCircle [0,[0,0,0]];
_ps1 setParticleFire [0,0,0];
_ps1 setDropInterval 0.01;

[winter rose]

yep.

very, very, very first line - the rest doesn't matter.

[tough abyss]

ive had issues befor but i suppose nothing being made there could conflict

[winter rose]

I don't know what it is supposed to mean

your issue is here

_Ent = createVehicle "Land_HelipadEmpty_F"  position pos1;

also, what is pos1 exactly?

[tough abyss]

the init name of an invisible helipad

[winter rose]

ah, ok. named like this, it could be a position, not an object

so, hint #1:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/createVehicle

[tough abyss]

i dont need position

i tried earlier without

didnt work either

[winter rose]

so because both don't work, it means you don't need position? wait, what is that logic 😄

"your engine is dead"
"I don't need the key to start the car! I tried without earlier, it didn't start either"
sorry but no 😁

so, hint #1:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/createVehicle

[tough abyss]

i just saw r3vo's reply tbh

but my brain smol

i fail to see what is wrong is it something to do with how defined pos1?

[stable dune]

Does that nearEntities work without you are selecting there which you want and If its empty array IT doenst work.
I had select and check so i got work my nearEntities loop work.

while {alive TAG_myObject} do {
_nearest = TAG_myObject nearEntities ["Man", 2];
if !(_nearest isEqualTo []) then {
    _nearest = _nearest select 0;
    if (isPlayer _nearest) then {
            _nearest setPos [(getPos _nearest select 0) +10, getPos _nearest select 1, getPos _nearest select 2];
        };
    };
sleep 0.5;
};

[winter rose]

hint #2

[tough abyss]

is the position not getting the position of pos1?

wait

im sooooo stupidd

[winter rose]

TYPE createVehicle POSITION
😄

[tough abyss]

i need to put my palm through my face real quick

[winter rose]

not stupid, but don't code when exhausted (and/or drunk 😋)

[tough abyss]

im 16 not drunk but tired ish

[tough abyss]

also just so no one misses it prisoner hasnt had a reply to and wasnt helping debug

[winter rose]

I do not understand the sentence nor the issue?

[stable dune]

It was for you, i had problem with nearEntities, i got that work Leo or Lou answered here that gives more than 1 array or nothing. So If you dont have anything what you select from array it will give error

[winter rose]

yes

[stable dune]

Sry my Bad english. i was answering to nucle.
I had problems with nearEntities, because it was returning more than 1 array or nothing. so i had add there !(isequal) and select 0

[winter rose]

if the array is empty, selecting 0 will return nil, above will throw an error
so check before that if the array is empty with isEqualTo []

private _theArray = /* blablabla */
if (_theArray isEqualTo []) exitWith {};

// _theArray has content, we can work

[stable dune]

Yeh

[cosmic lichen]

Whats up?

[winter rose]

the sky

[cosmic lichen]

You, when I shoot you too the moon

[stable dune]

_Array1 = _Ent nearEntities ["Man", "Car", 5];
_obj1 = createVehicle "Land_HelipadEmpty_F" _Array1;

Does this work because If there is more than 1 or 0

[quiet geyser]

Just to clarify, I don't want this to apply to every single player, just the ones which have the snippet in their init. Does this achieve that?

Also, will this apply after respawn as well?

[winter rose]

no idea!

[winter rose]

you are not checking if there is something

also no

[stable dune]

Ye, thats what i was trying to answer to nucle problem

[winter rose]

this @cosmic lichen

[tough abyss]

i doubt any of the code i posted here works i post if for early debugging

it'd propably pop up with some error about not expecting an array

[cosmic lichen]

Target = 0?

[quiet geyser]

Would there be any way to apply it to certain variable named player slots in onPlayerRespawn.sqf?

[stable dune]

//pos1 is defined as an init name which i believe is global
_ent =  "Land_HelipadEmpty_F" createVehicle getPosATL pos1;
_array1 = _ent nearEntities ["Man", "Car", 5];
if !(_array1 isEqualTo []) then {
_array1 = _array1 select 0;
_obj1 ="Land_HelipadEmpty_F" createVehicle  getPosATL  _array1;
_array1 attachTo [_obj1 [0, 0, 0]];
_obj1 setVelocity [0, 0, 10];
_posATL = _ent modelToWorld [0, 0, 10];
_ps1 = "#particlesource" createVehicleLocal _posATL;
_ps1 setParticleParams [["\A3\data_f\ParticleEffects\Universal\Universal.p3d",16,13,2,0],"","Billboard",0.07,5,[0,0,0],[0,0,6],0,4,7.9,0.1,[0.5],[[0.251196,0.0512141,0.401182,1]],[1000],1,0,"","","",0,false,0,[[0,0,0,0]]];
_ps1 setParticleRandom [1,[2,2,2],[0,0,15],20,0,[0,0,0,0],0,0,1,0];
_ps1 setParticleCircle [0,[0,0,0]];
_ps1 setParticleFire [0,0,0];
_ps1 setDropInterval 0.01;
};

[tough abyss]

wait was that all my code fixed for me lol i wasnt asking for that but thanks

was more for 1 line

thanks a lot if it is

[hallow mortar]

Both instances of createVehicle in that are still wrong. That's not a valid syntax

[tough abyss]

yeah i know

fixed that before

had a big facepalm

[winter rose]

@distant oyster

[distant oyster]

yeah? isn't it already?

[quiet geyser]

Yeah it turns out I'm a fucking moron and put the wrong variable name into the existing inits lmao

No need for anything complex

[round scroll]

back to the Nimitz. When zeus spawning it on dedicated server I get the following debug output now: 18:27:09 Mission id: de2911ef5117f5467726756977dea68c22e9b513 18:27:20 "Nimitz: 4ad6c100# 166167: empty.p3d REMOTE" 18:27:20 Ref to nonnetwork object 4ad6c100# 166167: empty.p3d REMOTE I guess this means that the init script is executed with a different client id than server, e.g. the Nimitz object is Remote to the script and stuff stops working.

I'll try remoteExec the init function on the server now: // _nimitz call TTT_nimitz_fnc_defaultInit; [_nimitz] remoteExec ["TTT_nimitz_fnc_defaultInit", 2];

[quiet geyser]

I've asked this in a few other places, but is anyone aware of a way to make the CAS bombing run module into requesting a gun run instead? Somewhat akin to the Zeus module.
The idea here is to have an A-10 that the player RTOs can call for pinpoint suppression, but bombing runs just aren't quite what I'm looking for. Nothing else I can find seems to help in this regard, and ideally this would still be going through the supports menu.

[tough abyss]

use cfg vehicles to get the a10 strafe

then find where the player is looking

then make a way for the player to activate it addaction if you want ot be fancy group artillery menu

create the vehicle where theyu are looking

[quiet geyser]

Not sure you're following what I'm saying; I want it to go through the exsting Supports menu which you get from using the Support modules in editor. There is a way to enact a script on the spawned aircraft; was wondering if it would be possible to remove the vehicle's loadout leaving it only with guns, then forcing it to use said guns on the marked point?

[tough abyss]

you can make it use guns

there is a module just for guns

[quiet geyser]

There's a Zeus module, not an editor module.

[tough abyss]

you can use createvehicle to get the zeus one

the runs are in cfgvehicles

[round scroll]

check out the Unsung code, I've forked the CAS from BI and extended it for Napalm. You can restrict it to gun runs as well

[quiet geyser]

Yeah on an Australian internet connection not sure I'm going to be downloading the entirety of Unsung for that one, sorry. Anything a bit more digestible you'd be able to point me towards?

[tough abyss]

my b im thinking of artillery target

[round scroll]

copy the BI function and modify it

[quiet geyser]

which function

[round scroll]

modules_f_curator\CAS\Functions\fn_moduleCAS.sqf

[quiet geyser]

Yeah looking at that now, thanks. Pretty much all of this is over my head so don't worry about it.

[round scroll]

    _weaponTypesID = _logic getvariable ["type",getnumber (configfile >> "cfgvehicles" >> typeof _logic >> "moduleCAStype")];
    _weaponTypes = switch _weaponTypesID do {
        case 0: {[ "vehicleweapon" ]};
        case 1: {[ "rocketlauncher" ]};
        case 2: {[ "vehicleweapon", "rocketlauncher" ]};
        case 3: {[ "bomblauncher" ]};
        case 4: {[ "missilelauncher" ]};
        default {[]};
    };```

gun is vehicleweapon as far as I remember

[quiet geyser]

Also this still seems to be operating off the Zeus module, not the editor ones at least as far as I can tell

The existing bombing run module works fine it's just that in this use case I'd want to make the aircraft use guns instead.

[round scroll]

you can modify the radio menu as well

but if the moduleCAS is already too tough, this might be to involved, sorry to say

[tough abyss]

couldnt he just use an ai waypoint with removeweapon?

[round scroll]

moduleCAStype = 0 should do the trick in the module, or?

@quiet geyser this is the call napalm script from Unsung: https://sqfbin.com/zakomotucisaruwebijo you need to at least change vehicle to your plane type class and type to 0. Also uns_mbox_fnc_moduleCAS needs to be the vanilla CAS module or a copy of it, at you preference. I would use this as addAction for now and once you get it working I share the radio support menu stuff with you

[quiet geyser]

Have tried implementing that as an addAction, keep getting back this error:

[BIS_fnc_moduleCAS] No weapon of types ["machinegun"] wound on 'CUP_B_A10-_DYN_USA'```
I assume "wound" there is found. What's odd is that the vehicle most definitely has a gun.

Have tried the other types (2 for guns/launcher) and they don't want to work either, it can't seem to find any weapons on the plane. When you place it by default in the editor it's absolutely stacked with munitions so I don't think it's an issue with the plane itself there.

[open fractal]

_plane weaponsTurret [-1] should return the weapon classes

[quiet geyser]

Oddly enough, I may have found a good fallback if this doesn't work. For whatever reason, the Helicopter Attack module still supports fixed wing, and basically just functions like a search and destroy directive. Means that if we can't get a targeted gun run (which is ideal) working, at least players can still call in an A-10 to hunt down some targets.

[quiet geyser]

["CUP_Vacannon_GAU8_veh","CMFlareLauncher","CUP_Vmlauncher_AIM9L_veh_1Rnd","CUP_Vmlauncher_FFAR_veh","CUP_Vmlauncher_AGM65pod_veh","CUP_ALQ_131_Pseudo"]```

[open fractal]

"CUP_Vacannon_GAU8_veh" is the weapon name

not "machinegun"

[quiet geyser]

If you check the script TeTeT linked above, that's not something I'm defining. It's taking that (presumably a category or class of weapon) from the CAS module.

[open fractal]

then you're looking for "vehicleweapon"?

if it's a text entry try without quotes as well

[round scroll]

it's not looking for it verbatim, it uses https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_itemType : sqf _weapons = []; { if (tolower ((_x call bis_fnc_itemType) select 1) in _weaponTypes) then { private _firstMag = getArray(configFile >> "CfgWeapons" >> _x >> "magazines") # 0; private _ammo = getText(configFile >> "CfgMagazines" >> _firstMag >> "ammo"); private _airLock = getNumber(configFile >> "CfgAmmo" >> _ammo >> "airLock"); // ignore air to air weapons if (_airLock != 2) then { _modes = getarray (configfile >> "cfgweapons" >> _x >> "modes"); if (count _modes > 0) then { _mode = _modes select 0; if (_mode == "this") then {_mode = _x;}; _weapons set [count _weapons,[_x,_mode]]; }; }; }; } foreach (_planeClass call bis_fnc_weaponsEntityType);//getarray (_planeCfg >> "weapons");

I really think for your purpose it's much easier to fork the moduleCAS function and hardcode your cannon weaponry to it

[faint oasis]

Hi, is there a way to remove the "goggles" added automatically with the "createUnit" command ? I tried "removegoggles" but it doesn't work. I think the goggles are added after

[hallow mortar]

You could wait a moment with e.g. sleep 0.1

[faint oasis]

yeah i think i will do that

[winter panther]

How can I find the icons of vehicles for a marker? I mean the icons that are displayed on the map on allied crewed vehicles or enemy contacts, NOT the NATO icons.

[hallow mortar]

I'd hazard a guess it could be found in the vehicle's cfgVehicles entry

[winter panther]

ah yes, it's the "icon" of the cfgVehicles entry. Thanks

I guess I can't use any PAA file as marker

[distant oyster]

just fyi, the -par startup parameter is actually quite useful, i added an example to test mp missions here: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Startup_Parameters_Config_File#Host_and_Client

[quiet geyser]

Can second -par; I've been using it on my dedicated server for a few months now. Oddly enough we actually had problems with our server provider and particular mods; had to use -par to get the commandline to read properly which was bizarre. Now we use txt file modlines for everything as it lets us change modsets really quickly.

[distant oyster]

does anybody know where the rpt is written to when you start two instances of the game without specifying the -profiles parameter?

[little raptor]

isn't it written in the same place?

it should just have a different timestamp

[distant oyster]

apparently not, it only creates an rpt for the first instance

[worthy igloo]

Whenever I add any Arma3Profile files to \Documents\Arma 3 - Other Profiles\User and load in game with it add of its data is reset is there any way to stop this

[granite sky]

If you're trying to transfer them between profiles, you need to rename to match, and Arma must be shut down first.

[worthy igloo]

even when my game is fully closed launcher an all if i make a new folder throw the 3 files in and launch the game the files sizes will all be reduced

[winter rose]

set it to read only
also, not really scripting, more #arma3_questions 😉

[severe frost]

Will moveInGunner work for two-seated jets? Im having difficulty with it

player moveInGunner _jet1; is the command I'm using

[warm hedge]

Depends on the plane

[severe frost]

Its the phantom from SOG:PF

[warm hedge]

Probably moveInTurret instead

[severe frost]

player moveInTurret [_jet1, [0]]; worked Thank you!

[tough abyss]

What is the purpose of the cross product in arma 3?

I know what the cross product is but how does arma 3 use it?

[little raptor]

Same way it's used everywhere else

_n = _vec1 vectorCrossProduct _vec2

[tough abyss]

Creates a vector perpendicular to the other vectors?

[little raptor]

Yes

[tough abyss]

Which is used to derive the Z axis?

[little raptor]

A normal axis

[tough abyss]

Ohhh. So plane presented in Tangent space is gets the normal axis of geometry of an object like a house or car.

Namely the normal of the actual model triangle?

Or whatever it is, that must be how the eden editor snaps objects to surfaces.

What is the purpose of the SetVectorUp command?

I see it used everywhere but what does it do exactly?

[little raptor]

Sets the up vector of the model to the vector in world

[tough abyss]

Sort of like defining the local axis in a model vs global axis?

[little raptor]

I don't know what you mean by vs

It just sets the up vector

[tough abyss]

What is the up vector?

[little raptor]

A vector pointing to the up (+z) of the model

[tough abyss]

Ah.

I noticed a command called LinearConversion could this be used to convert my problem of 0 - 360 to a representation of 0 to 1

?

[little raptor]

Yes

[tough abyss]

Ah ha.

Another question I am trying to find out how to create arma 3 water particles. I'm mucking around with the idea of water running off the roof of a building, how could I go about doing this?

[little raptor]

I would just forget about it if I were you
Particles don't have collision (at least not with objects)
So to do what you want you'd need to detect the edges of the model

Which needs thousands of line intersections

Which is slow

[tough abyss]

So very computationally intensive, and the engine won't like it?

Has the Enfusion engine fixed any of that?

[little raptor]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I doubt it

But you can ask them in their channel

#enfusion_particles

[tough abyss]

I saw a guy created an arma 3 script which could collide with the ground.

Water splashes.

On roads or is that a different issue?

[little raptor]

Sure

That's easy

But you're talking about water running off a roof

It's not just a simple line intersection anymore

If you want to simulate the flow of each water drop that's still relatively easy, but again it's slow

[tough abyss]

It was more like spawning them at the edges of the building

Letting them drip off

Not making them run off a roof.

It simulates enough without being too intensive

[little raptor]

Like I said the edge one is worse

[tough abyss]

So particles are not smart enough to interact with geometry?

They'll just fall straight through.

[little raptor]

No

[little raptor]

They don't necessarily fall

e.g. smoke rises

[tough abyss]

So you can control whether they are influenced by gravity or their density etc?

[little raptor]

Yes

[tough abyss]

But they lack the smarts for collisions.

[little raptor]

Many engines don't have that anyway

[tough abyss]

Yeah I can imagine the performance cost.

Checking say 1000 particles if they hit something or not.

Definitely expensive.

[little raptor]

1000 is just what you get from 1 smoke grenade

It's many more

[tough abyss]

Particles are CPU bound too are they not?

[little raptor]

Yes

[meager granite]

What could cause setFog to only decrease the fog?

0 setFog * sets it properly

But having time>0 makes fog only decline instead of reaching target value

Same behaviour on both syntaxes

It works fine on an empty mission, but doesn't work on mine

Feels like some other weather parameter prevents fog from working

I logged each and every setFog usage so its not some other script messing it up

[winter rose]

did you try ticking "override fog" in mission's settings?

It works fine on an empty mission, but doesn't work on mine
then something is changing that in your mission 👀 😄

[meager granite]

Yeah, and I can't figure out what 🤔

[meager granite]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1939381239516794287/F98255DB1F39005D8A6581115D6AD7F647215E46/

No such checkbox

[winter rose]

tru

also base fog -1000 😬

[meager granite]

Isn't it a default?

Oh, default is 0 🤔

Can't remember how that -1000 got there

fog is 0.01
Executing 100 setFog 0.2;
starts going down to 0

It uses time but always target value of 0

1 setFog 0.2 => goes to 0 in 1 second
0 setFog 0.2 => sets to 0.2 instantly

[winter rose]

restart from scratch!

[meager granite]

Rewrite the whole mission

Found out what it was

Having 0 setWindStr 1

Doesn't matter what wind you set afterwards, if you have that, no more fog for you

Honestly I have no idea what setWindStr and setWindForce are

"Set max. wind overall wind changes in time."

[winter rose]

it respectively sets wind's str and force

[meager granite]

[winter rose]

hue hue hue

[mellow scaffold]

Is there a way to detect mission-side if a mission was launched from the MP Eden editor? I'd like to dis/enable some debugging if it is

[meager granite]

is3DENPreview ?

[mellow scaffold]

ah, that might work, thanks

[meager granite]

0 setWindStr 0.85; 1 setFog 0.2 sets fog to 0.15 over 1 second

Oh, so the formula is simple

Max fog = 1 - setWindStr

Not explained anywhere it seems, thanks Arma

[winter rose]

ooooooh, wikiwikiwiki

[pulsar bluff]

is an "AttachTo" event handler a good idea? @meager granite

[meager granite]

Added comments under setFog

Feel free to remove them and add the info to the article itself

I wont mind

[meager granite]

I'd say no because engine never attaches anything by itself and not knowing if you attached something is sort of your own fault.

[pulsar bluff]

there is one in the engine event enumeration , think it is not hookable tho

    TurnOut = 31,
    TurnIn = 32,
    AttachTo = 33,
    HandleHeal = 34,
    HandleIdentity = 35,
    AnimStateChanged = 36,```

[meager granite]

Interesting

[pulsar bluff]

im on laptop, cant open arma rn

can you test to see if it works? dont think ive ever actually tried

[winter rose]

ah sorry, I wanted to say "I'm going to wiki it" ^^ I was caught on a call
thanks for the note, definitely!

[meager granite]

No idea how to hook to unused EHs

I think it might be one of VBS event handlers

Sadly VBS scripts reference is behind login now, can't check it anymore

http://web.archive.org/web/20180118091718/https://resources.bisimulations.com/wiki/Category:VBS:_Event_Handlers#AttachTo

http://70.118.195.107/site_old/community.bistudio.com/wiki/VBS2__Event_Handlers.html#AttachTo

Also found in some mirror of an old community.bistudio.com somewhere

[pulsar bluff]

hmm

[meager granite]

Volumetric clouds can be disabled with setSimulWeatherLayers 0 but can't be enabled back even after switching mission or server.

    private _display_menu = findDisplay 46 createDisplay "RscDisplayInterrupt";
    ctrlActivate(_display_menu displayCtrl 301);
    ctrlActivate (findDisplay 5 displayCtrl 2);
    _display_menu closeDisplay 2;
```Code snippet to re-init volumetric clouds in case somebody needs it. It opens video menu and closes it, triggering the engine to re-init the clouds.

Sharing in case somebody was dealing with overcast and clouds

If you want to deny players getting more FPS by script-setting themselves flat Arma 2 clouds before playing your mission/server

[winter rose]

wiki? :3

[meager granite]

Already posted a comment with that snippet there

[hallow mortar]

It might be sensible to raise a FT ticket about it too, that seems like something that should be fixed

[coarse dragon]

How does one teleport the player to a different location by a trigger?

[winter rose]

setPosASL etc commands

[meager granite]

Perhaps, setSimulWeatherLayers > 0 should fix the clouds as well as clouds re-initing on mission loading.

[languid tundra]

That's the original code for the password protected intel (executed with Achilles' or ZEN's execute code module): https://github.com/ArmaAchilles/Achilles/blob/master/Experimental/PasswordForUnlockingIntel.sqf

As far as I remember it does not work in MP though

[austere nymph]

Thansk @languid tundra that's very kind of you

[languid tundra]

You can thank Lou for pinging me or I would have missed it for sure 😅

[winter rose]

thank everyone, all of you!

[austere nymph]

@languid tundra I honestly just saw a YT video of that arma 2 mission where you have to imput a code and your video was recommended next. Blew my mind.

[cold pagoda]

Does anyone know where the holster function is? I would like to change the placement of the rifle. If that is possible?

[winter rose]

that would be animation modding, not scripting

[cold pagoda]

ahh, alright, thanks!

[hallow mortar]

I'm pretty sure that this should cause the while loop to stop when njt_gpsjamming becomes true. It doesn't. There must be something obvious I'm missing but I just can't see it.

while{!(missionNamespace getVariable ["njt_gpsjamming",false]) && {!isNull player}} do
// ...
// This happens later in a function that runs on the server and is verified to run
missionNamespace setVariable ["njt_gpsjamming",true,true];```
Never mind. I found a second while loop hidden deeper in the code which is what _actually_ causes the issue.

[winter rose]

uuuuuuuuugh

you mean distance + direction + inn vehicle?

[brazen lagoon]

probably want to check if the vehicle is close enough to the right orientation and not exact bc that'd be really tedious

check if direction vehicle player is close to direction launchpad1

check vehicle player distance launchpad1

lou is probably typing out the if statement I was going to type so I'll just defer to him

[winter rose]

something like that

private _veh = objectParent player;
if (_veh != mySuperAircraft || { _veh distance theLaunchPad > 100 }) exitWith {};

the dir thing is a lengthier thing to do but you get the idea

yeah

[brazen lagoon]

yeah you'll prob want to do something like direction pad - direction veh < 5 or something

err. put an abs in there too

[winter rose]

(also + 360 % 360 something)
something tells me it's in a plane so it's "is the plane oriented towards the target
not just 2D dir :(

[brazen lagoon]

thats true but i figured since it was a catapault launch pitch/roll didnt matter just yaw

since they'd be on the same surface as the launcher?

[winter rose]

oh, didn't even get that part 😄

[brazen lagoon]

im not certain obv, i could be wrong. but thats how i read it lol

[winter rose]

no no you're right, I just stopped reading at the <code> post 😄

[little raptor]

no

[little raptor]

also no

neither are correct

e.g. if direction of vehicle is 359 and direction of pad is 3 both will yield incorrect results

it is possible. but it's incorrect

[rough summit]

call compile wont work 😦

[little raptor]

because it's wrong

[rough summit]

Just checking some shops from life servers and try to do something, linked with conditions

[little raptor]

well if you do it like this:

{ private _dir = (direction _aircraft - direction launchpad1 + 360) % 360; _dir < 5 || _dir > 355}

it will be correct

[rough summit]

why its wrong?

[little raptor]

you had something getVariable ['var']

that's not the correct syntax

[rough summit]

['someVar', 0]

[little raptor]

ye

[rough summit]

didn't spot syntax error

[little raptor]

also I'm not sure why you're using call compile

why is that code a string in the first place?

[rough summit]

cfg

{"itemclass", "itemPrice", "condition", "description"}

ye, it works, thanks

[brazen lagoon]

i mentioned you'd need an abs in there but ye true

so anyway if I want to use the arsenal to let you refill ammo how should that work? I tried adding all mags for all weapons but they don't show up unless you already have one of those mags on your person.

oh im dumb. ofc. i was using virtualitemcargo when i should have been using magazine cargo 🤓

how would I get statics for a faction? would i just look up CfgVehicles entries with scope=2, faction = _faction, iskindof "StaticWeapon"?

[little raptor]

iskindof "StaticWeapon"
that's one way

but I personally hate isKindOf for that kind of stuff

[brazen lagoon]

yeah its not ideal :/