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Different Dreams of Different Humans
I suggest u find jean paul sartre book to read, problem doesnāt occur because of how you desire it, you never desired it in the first place the root of it is from our fundamental existential condition. Humans are ācondemned to be freeā - thrown into existence without a predetermined essence or purpose. This radical freedom creates what Sartre calls āanguishā because we must constantly make choices that define who we are, with no external authority (like God or human nature) to guide us
Need one that makes girlfriend.
I read Jean Paul Satre, I sense good taste.
The real source of our problems lies in our attempts to escape this freedom and responsibility. He argues that āhumans seek to flee our anguish through action-oriented constructs such as escapes, visualizations, or visionsā¦designed to lead us toward some meaningful endā. These escape mechanisms, not authentic desires, are what create our difficulties.
Itās not solely because of desire
Interesting i have noted the Book Name Now
It really is
I love his book
hello, does anyone can help to know when to use thinking mode?
or is pref to keep it on always
I saw this quote in "the boys".
Using complex task or math
All the time unless you are in a hurry.
Just smt that even make u need to think
will it give a completely new answe?
U kinda want to use it
Mostly yes
U should read it
As it might change how you think of the world around you
Take your time
Heard it but donāt get enough time to read
Camus?
Nope
I always do!
Been busy with the paperwork
I feel like everyone should read Nietzsche.
I have a military training upcoming
Don't die.
So might gonna leave that to the other day
Don't lose limbs.
Nah itās reduced lighter for university students lmao
Itās still replica 70% of real army training
Just replace with studying war tatics
How to use a
ā¦.
Kaboom
Piu piu
And how to teamwork
Yes but you don't have to actually go on wars right?
Yeah that's my Point for Him
Some countries have compulsory military service.
For us itās
Glad his doesn't.
I know of Israel
And South Korea
For us itās still compulsory
Aaaaaa
But my eyes are way far behind thr requirements
Whatās the meaning of getting a dude who canāt even see
Into the military
Same-Same but Different
China vs Taiwan moment.
I want to bet on screen time. Combined with misleading doctors.
Glasses damage your vision.
And I can explain why.
Avoid the military?
Do you want to know?
Your eye shape adjusts to watching things upclose when you spend time viewing things too closely.
Like books or screen.
It's natural compensation.
Oh that
The more you correct it with glasses, the worse it gets.
Overcompensation to neutralize effect of glasses.
But they still tell you to wear glasses all the time.
You should only wear them when you can't see.
Take a wild guess why people wear glasses
My face looks better with glasses

Get rid of it
Get AR glasses
Cuz doctors tell them to wear all day (even at times you don't need it).
A boiled egg
Enough for cardboard glasses
Hmm
I wish I could use this money
Yeah
Whatever lens you'll put in your cardboard vr gear.
If its just for cosmetic
Oh.
Hello Guys
Also this is false. There's been many studies and papers regarding this topic
Whats up
Hey. Hope you have a good time here.
Hi there
There's no study that explains what causes myopia.
Glasses are supposed to reduce the damaging progress
Hey
Lmao?
If i remember it correctly
Fine. Educate me.
Making the progress slower
The thing is actually damaging the eyes more is by not wearing glasses
@distant aurora I Agree With You
kunalgawadee this is my Insta if
yo! wtf?
And i do Not Trust The Traditional Health Industry Neither
Nor most of the Researches
I still don't see any cause for myopia there.
At least it saves your health
As they are Funded by These Pharma Companies
That's what the World Believes
The point is, we gotta be a smart user
What causes myopia
Healthcare is important
And it should be Natural
Find me the cause for myopia.
Whatever triggers it.
U can just deny the whole industry by just saying the pharma companies are behind the research
Ur nature body canāt itself create antibiotic
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1888429620300534?via%3Dihub
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/public-health/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2022.897600/full
https://jphysiolanthropol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40101-024-00354-7
https://journals.lww.com/claojournal/fulltext/2018/07000/a_review_of_current_concepts_of_the_etiology_and.6.aspx
I have seen research papers before. But there is no explanation for what causes myopia. They blame screens but myopia existed way before screens. Cuz books are viewed upclose too.
Than How Our Ancestors had Survived They Had No Such Industries and They were Countless Times More Healthier then Us
Hint: Its not just screens
U must look at the average age
Do u know the average age of out ancestor ?
They didn't survive too long
plans for nano banana in perplexity?
Nothing official
Now our average age is above 70
Thatās the benefit of medical industry
A simple thing like toothpaste
Is crucially important to us
People used to die because of not having proper clean for teeths
Our body itself, yes itās gifted
But it canāt itself generate antibiotic for diseases
Is this AI india model or other countries?
It canāt itself fight back to growth of sweetness which cause ur teeth to break down and the cancellation of your jawbone
Well let me tell you a little story
Everyone gotta make money
Around 10 years Ago While Living in Our Old Home
But the thing it benefits us is undeniable
I had A Friend Who Had Asthma As I Did
He was and still is on The Current Health Industry Path
Now he has Level 3 Asthama
I took The Naturopathy/Ayurveda Path and Im Cured
Now i Openly Challenge You
When Both of us Reach A Old Age let's See Which One of Us Will Have Better Health
You will stay on This Health Industry
And i will Stay with Nature
It doesnāt prove anything, modern medical was meant to have better effect from the original product from nature
I Hear Your Points
Do You Accept The Challenge?
The Truth will be Evident
If You are Certain and So Am I
Then Accept it
The challenge itself is answered by evolution of humans, i find that this challenge is just honestly ridiculous, itās not even a fair challenge when speaking about how we lives.
Third link was useless. So far the only two significant causes I found are atropin and melanopsin. The effect of light part.
Everyone's different! one experience doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. And remission for asthma isn't something that happens to everyone
Hmm
Speaking of which, the lifestyle between me and you is not even the same
Like?
Wait
Iām the one sleeping for 3 hours a day for study and work, thatās how life by now
Fair Enough
Understandable
I'm aware of research papers saying glasses don't aggravate vision. But they are still unable to pin point a significant individual cause of myopia.
This is The End of This Debate for Me
Debate š
I missed everything
Btw which work?
Iām new and I have 200 files I need to analyze using perplexity, I need to know exactly how get the. Into spaces, as that was recommended. Additionally, I need to know how to access them for use in a thread. Or should I be somewhere else. Donāt hesitate, Iāve been told where Togo before, thank you.
Because there is no single individual cause
"Let Your Own Intelligence and Senses Deceive You -AnosCranel"
@plucky spindle for u to read
Thanks
@distant aurora Don't Argue as You Cannot Convey Anyone Nor Anyone Can Convey You
Alr so...
So you are saying myopia is random? Almost everything that's listed there doesn't apply to me.
Yea
cough cough read the papers I sent you
Imma touch grass
I did.
Never took atropine in my life.
The only significant thing I found is melanopsin and effect of light.
Don't try you will lose this argument
Sup
Most of The Researches, Papers and Studies Supports His Side
Most of the causes are passive diseases and effects of meds/drugs.
Plenty of myopic people without any of them.
Trust me
When is nano banana coming to Perplexity
Nothing official atm
No matter what you do you won't be able to convey him
They better hurry, it's been out for some days now and it's amazing
you should consider making a feature request
nano banana is friggin pricy
why does gpt 5 thinking uses websearch even tho i turned itoff
It's a known issue :/
and its not just GPT-5 thinking
They are passing on the tool call information even when web is toggled off
Does Perplexity Research and Labs now use GPT-5?
The COT isn't shown anymore!
@dry kestrel from what I understood so far, my logic applies to single vision glasses.
So if you use glasses all day for myopia, you have to make sure that it's multi focus/corrective.
@twin grail are your myopia glasses multifocal/corrective?
I have never seen corrective myopic glasses in India.
I was scared of checking my subscription on chatgpt website
But it says renewing on september 25th
Bruh The Free Usage Limits for GPT as 10 Messages per 5 Hour is not Entirely True
I probably have sent 20-30 messages by now and im still on GPT5
It's adaptive.
I use it when perplexity's answer isn't thorough enough.
Yup
I can trigger Thinking by Prompt
And Use Copilot Too
Do You Think GPT API Deep Research would also cost 5$ Like Perplexity API?
Probably more.
Dude 5$ is Like a KFC Bucket tor Indians
Yes
Well Im More Grateful Now for it
Nono
I said API Just for The Costing Price
Cough, Cough
I haven't mentioned creating more accounts

Lol.
You lucky they don't ask phone number anymore.
They used to do that in old times.
The reason for me touching it very late.
Yeah it restarts weekly
@twin grail right?
But i have plenty of phones
I can probably create 5 gmails on each for phone for 1 week reset
Tbh these Exploits are Given to be Exploited
Similar Things with Piracy
Afaik Adobe Want's their Products to be Pirated so it Stays Most Famous One for it
Same for Microsoft
Obviously they don't Support it Openly
Lmao
Thats only if you do /thinking
Thinking switch was 1 per day for free tier, lol.
10 per 5 hour is for the non thinking/auto switch variant.
Read that as something else :/
GPT-5 (no reasoning) limits are adjusted with demand
Unpopular opinion, gpt 5 mini of free tier is dumber than o4 mini of free tier.
Hello everyone. What AI tool do you all use for data analysis of large data sets (1M+ rows of data)?
Gemini
First party.
I don't think even Gemini will be enough for you.
You'll need like 10 million context for 1 million rows.
Assuming 1 row is 10 tokens.
Perplexity doesn't have more than 128k.
Gemini has 1 million.
Their official claim is 32k but some mod said that reasoning models have 128k. No one has been able to prove it.
But even Max Tier doesn't Have Better Context Window
At least they should get better i guess?
If is Because of Cost?
Kwak isn't just "some mod"... #1345432443074646158 message
Yeah he is A Admin
What made you think I haven't seen that after seeing my last message in that thread?
Wait is Admin Higher then Mod ?
Yes
Are you new to discord?
Admin is like super mod.
Has access to server controls.
Can An Admin Ban itself?
He works for Perplexity though... š¤Ø
He brings the BOOM
š¤
Oh DAYM Good to Know
Let's Go!!!
No, role hierarchy prevents this
Alright now i know this
Can You Say Yellow?
Kwak and Kesku have the exact same perms, it's just that due to role hierarchy, Kwak has the perms to ban Kesku or any of the mods.
why
Wait fr?
Yeah, thats why we have different roles even though they give the same perms
You Have to Say it to Know it
Been a while since I last saw kes here.
They died don't you remember
yellow
Yellow Yellow Dirty Fellow
The kesku fiasco in the great 2025 (colorized)
haha
Did you kidnap him
Jk hehe
no comment
Kes has perplexity team role. Somehow, Kwak doesn't.
I think mat got kidnapped Instead
Kwak has a higher role - neccesary for giving Kesku his role
adios amigos
Without A Colour?
That's a strong accusation on kes. I wouldn't doubt kes.
Is just a joke

Yeah
DAYM...
Amigos Adios
I know. Higher hierarchy in server may not necessarily mean works for perplexity in the literal sense. That's what I was trying to say.
For example, Kesku cannot give other members his own role, Kwak would have to do this
Not sure what you mean
I meant being an Admin in an organisation's discord server doesn't necessarily make me a working member in the company in the literal sense.
Usually is the case for larger organizations as this could result in severe consequences if not.
Acknowledged.
š I was writing an essay answer to that
Ed you have glasses?
And Mat was Slower then You
I can actually get a Free API Key for Llama Maverick, Scout and Instruct
Sucks that the models are mid...
Yeah Exactly
I'm happy if it can analyse chats with my ex, lol.
You would think that.
Yeah Because i don't have A EX
Bro imagine if llama made a 10m context reasoning model.
In future yeah
Zuckerberg is surely cooking something with 100 Billions
He has announced New Llama by The End of 2025
At this Point is Just a Game of Time
Gpt 5 nano is so cheap.
ngl seeing GPT 5 with 400k context window is crazy, 2 study textbooks worth?
My chat with ex has like 250k tokens.
2 text books would probably be around 1 million.
Depends on the number of pages.
500 pages each lets say
It depends on the lench of the Books
Yeah. Fair enough.
Llama 4.5 is Coming by End of 2025
lmk I'll test with GPT 5 thinking from perplexity and then gpt 5 thinking pro
I want to see which one is the best one for accuracy with books
Perplexity has Less Context Window Limit
dang it
Maximum 128k for Reasoning Models
Although i and @gloomy cipher had Assumed is At Least 64k
someone can give me invitation to comet browser ?
API no matter what version of gpt 5 is 400K?
I assume if is enterprise API it might be More

Yeah it seems to be Maximum 400k
yeah i got some
48 laws of power did fit in 125 k tokens on ai studio. It's like 470 pages.
They're very likely to use web search I think. Also they'll know some things about it if the books are popular.
Btw is O3 Great?
Yep.
Yo
But GPT 5 Thinking is Still Better Right?
Yes
Time to test accuracy
No clue on chatgpt
But wanna test a prompt?
you can give gpt-5 snippets of the chat log and tell it to make a python script that cuts out pieces based off of period
i uh think agent can take the entire thing
its just like a desktop
Just to show you Iām not going insane
Can you make it not use the search?
Yeah
It tells you when it uses search
Iām gonna ask it something stupid screw it
Ask it about the quote of baltasar gracian in the book.
Now we wait
guys i have real gpt 5 and perplexity however, they dont match
does perplexity provide the real chatgpt 5 model or smth else?
yes it's the real model
Do you have any examples showing this?
they may have quite different styles is the difference imo
but essentially it's the same info...I tend to like PPLX more, but that's just biased
i do agree that analysing PDFs is completely different tho (web search disabled)
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Only reason that prevents me to switch entirely to Comet!!
Iām an engineering student and i have to deal a lot with pdfs. Microsoft Edge has by far the best pdf viewer and editor features that makes my life easier. Why donāt Comet team work on coming up with basic features like Highlighting the pdf, annotations, etc. ?
This makes a hugeeee, difference to me!!!
You are A Pro Plan User?
pro gamer

Thanks berd
Yes
You Son of A Rich
@left stream yoo
Nah he built himself from the ground up
Sup
SION IS BACK BABY
LOOK AT THAT WR BOYS
SION ROSE FROM THE DEAD AGAIN AND IS KICKING ASS
now i can try sion fuck yes
Is pplx getting nano banana
I heard it's pricey.
They didn't say :/
I'd imagine if they added the model, it would pull from the same query pool as GPT-Image 1
Depends on which quality setting you are comparing it to
If price is what they are worried about they could make it so that it shares the limit with img 1
lol
Depending on the prompt It's between being cheaper or identical to img 1 medium
my baby sion is back feels amazing
now theyll feel the inting and rage
"tanks are bad" mean while sion has s tier and 51% winrate chilling on top
I heard otherwise in the fireship video
they buffed his ad
sion is back
i love ornn but im not climbing right and mfs do not ALLOW ME GO TOP
was in mid lane i left the match idrc what my team does lol
now i can feel like a giant and slam the towers down and have the enemy team chase me like im dr mundo
Hi
Study Mode release tomorrow trust
Such wierd
Anyone
Wanna help?
Perplexity Dev's ain't doing great, why gpt4 is being used?
Is perplexity down or something?
automatically
Source?
Hi
n8n ?
Go to the website and check which model was used by clicking the first icon on the bottom right. That's the only valid way to check it, the models can't answer that
Iāve been good, Iām adding games to a modded ps3 rn lol
Good to hear, hope it stays that way š„
I was a fool this whole time @dry kestrel
I just found out you can improve comet and agent even more dms
It is using GPT-5 (if selected) even if it argues that it's not and says it's based on 4. The models aren't aware of what or who they are
Perplexity calls the AI via API iiuc, which doesn't necessarily give accurate self-info
also, without web-search/RAG on the query, it may use outdated info I guess
Hence why you see stuff like GPT5 isn't available on Perplexity etc
How many years have llms been out and people still think you can ask a model what it is and it will be correct.
it's actually correct on respective platform tho
well at least on ChatGPT and Claude's
Gemini seems fine too
wow...that's actually quite impressive if it's not hallucinating lol
low medium and high is simply just how long it thinks for i think
Gpt 5 thinking pro finished reasoning, it has all the answers to your questions
for example, if u ask it to solve a simple maths question, while still selecting GPT-5 Thinking, it will use low
cos it replies within seconds
Those platforms tell the models "You are X model" in their system prompts
To verify the model
Ask it to solve a problem only that model tier can solve
No search tho
You realize that if the low, med, high, is just gives the model the max amount of reasoning tokens it's allowed to use. If your question is really simple, even GPT-5 Pro will take just 5 seconds
It takes 5 seconds for you?
Was just an extreme example
Here's GPT-5 telling me it's GPT-4 on the OpenAI website
yes that makes sense.....tried to custom instruction to force High thinking on 1+1
didn't work lol
Hello everyone, I wanted to ask if you would use a chatbot like an average person for everyday tasks, to consult on health issues, or to help with routine tasks. Which model would be the most versatile and effective for you?
that's accurate then
"I default to high so you get careful reasoning, but Iāll auto-scale based on the task and can stick to medium or low if you prefer speed/brevity."
I'd stay away from health related issues
so probably no point having custom instruction
So, which one will you choose as your main one?
sorta depends what you using it for
are you a lay person? (in context of wanting to query "health issues") verses a medical professional etc
Depends on what you are trying to accomplish
Do not rely solely on AI for health related questions
as Mo Gawdat said, question everything tbh (especially with AI)
Health is more of a context thing, because the average person will touch on this topic at some point.
I mean, sure you can ask it for guidance, but don't expect AI to diagnose anything
AI diagnosis was wrong. Turns out I have a bunch of bone fragments floating around reading stuff up and 2 severed ligaments. The doctor was horrified when he felt how loose my thumb was.
Lots of surgeries coming up!
yea was more asking are you using it as medical professional (supplementing clinical work etc), or are you using it as a relative "layman"
I am an ordinary user and my activities are not related to medicine
Try out GPT-5 Thinking and sonnet 4
not sure one is clearly superior to another from a layman perspective
I'm just noticing now that it's difficult to decide on a basic model for the average person, so I've asked for advice.
medical professional perspective, i'd say GPT-5 Thinking and Gemini 2.5 Pro
GPT-5 Thinking is incrementally overall better imo
but Gemini answering style with Perplexity is still the best
It's difficult since different models excel at different topics
tbh, u can't really go wrong with "Best" for medical stuff too imo
was actually surprised...cos I hadn't tested Best for months
was pretty good
How is it possible that the Gemini 2.5 Pro was released a long time ago, considering the speed of model releases, and still holds a good position?
can someone send me invite for comet?
Hi
The model was last updated in May June, and is lagging behind OpenAI and XAI in terms of performance
Gemini 2.5 Pro latest update is June 2025 iiuc
I think Gemini 2.5 Pro still surpasses Grok 4 in many ways
Give ultra a test drive
No clue how to feel about it ngl
I'm tempted... $250 is quite a lot though
Donāt use it on disappointment
The issue I have with Gemini is the data training, or I don't get to see my old conversations
10 a day
Higher 2.5 pro limits, extremely high video gen limits, and also insane amount of storage + youtube premium
It was good until it somehow forgets the convo topic on the second message
Is it just me or even with Perplexity Pro, it just does 4 searches at once instead of 1 at a time, every time? How do I make it one at a time? Often times, I'm either getting just 10 or 20 sources.
O3 or gpt 5 thinking.
Use research mode if you want more steps.
How many were there?
I lost track ngl
Bro Iām helping my buddy by looking tough and watching from her porch pretending to be his neighbor while she sells 2 guitar hero guitars lol
She asked me to remove my glasses to look tougher? š š
Got confused with GPT-5
For a moment I thought there's an updated juice scale.
o3 is quite different to GPT-5
Making sure I donāt miss that itās done, thanks pplx š
I love getting 3 seperate notifications, and an email when my DR finishes
3!? I disabled the emails
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Phone, Mac (phone notifs come to mac, and browser notif), watch, ipad
I donāt get how the phone to Mac isnāt in eu still
Switch your apple ID region
Iād lose my Apple services (music especially)
Wait what
I donāt think I can change my region that easily
Iād need to switch my account
Sacrasm?
Unless you have funds in your apple store account
Cómo lo puedo poner en español lo que Ablan ?
you should be able to change the region quite easily
Hey! please use English
Latinoamericana
Yeah well not anymore at least
Isn't this great
Alguien que able espaƱol?
English please!
Por favor usa ingles!
That person probably can't speak English.
No ay nadie de espaƱol š«”š
I think I should go eepy
Loa mensajes no se pueden cambiar a espaƱol para lo que ustedes escriban los pueda leer?š¤§
@green crystal Gemini deserves a special place in hell.
Can't the messages be changed to Spanish so I can read what you write?š¤§
I don't think Discord supports this natively
After I read that research report!! Wooo
Just one last report, I promise.
5 hours later
|| I sent this in the wrong order ||
Dónde lo compraste eso para lo pueda traducir
Gemini app.
Even perplexity should work, lol.
No yo digo a qui en el chat como puedo cambiar se idioma a español asà para que los pueda leer?
Gemini was designed by some very stupid people.
Can't even switch model in same chat.
You can't, unfortunately.
Claude be like
This is not possible.
Chatgpt added project memory only
and this isn't counting the notifications I get on my tablet and watch.
Yeah - long needed feature
Bye

Bro is flexing his spam kink.
I have dnd on 24/7
Whyy
eep first!
Do Claude users ever switch to the non thinking variant?
No
Claude models are extremely efficient at reasoning
Ehhh, around 80% in 50 minutes
its forever to get to 100% though
"Claudeās context window size is 200K, meaning it can ingest 200K+ tokens (about 500 pages of text or more) when using a paid Claude plan."
that is definitely not true right now
It works... just consumes usage extremely quickly
I could try it if you want
lmao
PPLX is using RAG
I don't think Claude does for normal chats
Claude has it for projects
okay will test it thanks
oops
but at least higher limit than normal yep
okay that was normal chat in Claude - uploaded tokens was about 130,000
it accepts it...but then can't interact with it, popping up that message
the more I try other platforms, the more one appreciates PPLX's platform more lol
Projects has the same issue
it wasn't higher at all
Google AI studio does have hard limit of 1 mil tokens I guess? it failed uploading my 2.5 mil word PDF file
Gemini platform has no issues accepting it tho
even ChatGPT platform doesn't allow that
so only Gemini and Perplexity can do it so far I can tell...not sure about Grok's platform?
actually quite amazing they allow over 3 million tokens
But then it defaults to R1 and I can't use any other model
You can't change the model for Deep Research.
no one really knows what model(s) are used in Deep research i think
ye ik š
thats whati just siad lol
Works when I put in personalizations to take more steps, took 3 this time
You could try out labs which sometimes gives you higher detail than DR
hmm, can u intereact with it?
it seems to be an issue with PDFs maybe
yeah
also the superiority of PPLX and Gemini remains - allowing over 3 million tokens etc
maybe tokens counted different with PDFs containing not just text etc?
not sure
yea must be different for just text files
RAG is quite different compared to just pasting the entire thing to the LLM
Theoretically you could have the model retrieve information from a file with millions of tokens
the use case is that the files are in PDF format, and includes tables etc
But it won't be able to read the entire file all at once with RAG
PPLX, ChatGPT etc interpret them very well for most part etc
even with colour coded tables too
ye, pretty good, running on r1 too right?
man i loved supergrok
it could search 600 sources, and i could jailbreak it easily
No I don't think so
Looks like an OAI or Anthropic model to me
Must be Max benefit
it's 200,000 token limit for both regular and Projects on Claude Pro
Where are you seeing this?
literally by testing it
I can't upload more than 200,000 token file
have tested both in regular and Projects
Screenshot in projects?
Thats.... not where you are supposed to be uploading your file.
yea
similar to Spaces
bit disappointing though....got Opus 4.1 getting a prompt wrong sigh
(even cut down the PDF in half so it accepted it in normal chat)
@young hollow apparently Deepseek nerfed the number of sources in their search.
Has it finished indexing yet?
yes, this was separate to what we just discussed
...
try with projects
yep will do
sorta less interested in that particular one...since PPLX + Claude 4 basically gets it right almost all the time too lol - but was disappointing Claude's own platform got it wrong and with Opus 4.1 THinking (possibly a fluke tho...but I too scared to test like 10x due to limits with Opus 4.1)
will try another set soon
Ssrcasm š„
Claude moment
Will Nano banana be added?
lmao yeah gemini definitely beats openai on all fronts /s

tbh ai studio is great too its free + gemini 2.5 pro access and over that we got custom instructiionns too
hi
it's most likely a problem on their end
Comet wasn't able to login yesterday
i will fight for my rights
i think u should wait for the fix
i'm not telling you are not right
im just saying it's mostly a problem on their end
due to high volume of users, they ought to set limit for India
But ig they will fix it soon
Did you pay pro via ios?
Iām trying to figure out how chatgpt pro was made
Card
IOS was being funny and it kept failing
My claude sub is via IOS though
did you ever get a free month?
chatgpt pro is tweaking
claude tweaked too
same with gemini sometimes
i think u should check ur billing
No :(
mine for claude happened last month
Haven't paid
but it still give me a free month
but it's count as overdue
I need to have sufficient funds in my apple account because I pay for icloud
No icloud = bad things will happen
Any1 need it lemme know
Yo
i'm living with 100gb of icloud
It's almost full
ik that i was just like saying "i willl fight for my rigght" to see their response.
Well they need to make money
If I renew my pro plan now, do I get access to comet or would I have to wait?
Which is the best thinking model for STEM currently?
Pro users in the U.S get access right away, for other regions you get priority
All the reasoning models like GPT-5 thinking, sonnet, grok 4, are good for STEM
why does GROK 4 does not work for complex tasks?
Grok has some limitations in PPLX - for example, it can't interpret/analyse any image file iirc
lol why did they give then
Even Sonar does not work
work for what
For complex tasks with image
oh
yea I found Sonar fails with PDFs too ...i rarely tested it, so not sure it's a new thing
Works fine for me
Get some complex task with image analysis
when u ask Sonar a question with PDF attached, it will just give a general overview of the PDF, rather than trying to answer the question
for me it says inapplicable
maybe try GPT-5 Thinking?
I don't see any noticeable loss of quality with Grok 4
for me when i chosse grok 4 it says inapplicable & uses GPT 4.1 lol
Prompt?
Working fine right now
I think as of now it is not providing better responses compared to other models
yea for many images at least, I get this when I select Grok 4:
same issue, you got it bruh
my question to Grok 4 there was - what is attached?
GROK is very bad in it
sorry Perplexity GROK
does developers know about it?
just anything with a PNG file attached I guess (or probably any image file I suspect)
You can make a bug report here #1140622008086970420
and then just ask...what is attached
@dry kestrel raise this issue plz
Please make a bug report
even Sonar does not work, same issue
@quaint ravine plz raise
this may actually be intentional: #1306341534093934703 message
This is Grok 2
"it's not a bug, currently, we use only GPT and Claude vision models for image uploads."
as of back then
yes but I'm just saying
Grok 4 supports image uploads in the API
"may actually be"
This has nothing to do with grok 2
it's possible there may be other reasons they not allowing it
plz raise it @quaint ravine
It's likely a bug.
just reply that thread
I've just replied
thanks
lol, its weird to know that you never faced this issue
yeah i think, Sonar is also having same issue
@muted jackal @quaint ravine Upvote here https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1411212124658733057
thanks
Sonar has different issue...or same for images too?
yep same for images too
might as well add that to the bug report tbh
same
Sonar also has a different issue with PDFs
@muted jackal please post your thread in my bug post.
Done, thanks @dry kestrel
I am actually new to it, how to do that?
tbh, I think I know why it's not working (if it's intentional)
especially for Grok
It was working last week
I am currently not in the condition to share, @quaint ravine can you sahre the recent one?
this is 100% not intentional
has been intemittenly not working for at least several weeks
if it was working last week
but again, I think I know why it'd not work if it was intentional lol
but yea
hopefully just a bug š
the other bug still happens btw...been like that for nearly 2 months or so
that's completely trivial in a way, but still would be nice to know why GPT 4.1 is used to answer on places to eat/travel lol
Lol, you already reported, still it was not fixed
yes and Kesku tried to shift it to more devs awareness
This time will it be fixed? @dry kestrel
unfortunately not fixed yep
Lol. GROK 4 is one of the best models out there, I need it being a pro user
give it a few days and see how it goes
Do you also think that the GPT 5 thinking model in perplexity is not that good?
no i find it excellent
it's inferior in PDF analysis to the same (apparent) model from the ChatGPT platform tho
got another PDF analysis wrong, even in Projects with Opus 4.1
ChatGPT's GPT-5 Thinking seems to nail that one consistently....never saw it wrong for that specific prompt (or variations of it to make it slightly trickier)
yep and yet another prompt wrong again. Seems Opus 4.1 Thinking isn't obviously better than Sonnet 4 Thinking for this use case
small sample size still, but seems comparable
are you a max user?
I'm testing Claude's platform - Pro version, which gives access to Opus 4.1 Thinking
so you have purchased that too?
lol, how is the review? try differences between perplexity Sonnet 4 vs Claude Sonnet 4
i actually prefer PPLX's version usually
same applies for Gemini 2.5 Pro, and even GPT-5 Thinking at times
PPLX style of response is great
i faced it with gemini only once and then never
Gemini 2.5 Pro I have tried by purchasing it, Its good too
i have purchased Gemini 2.5 Pro too myself and it's really not that big a difference to the version that is in PPLX...at least not for the stuff i was doing with it
well u can actually test Gemini 2.5 Pro a bit with free
also in AI studio
it makes the same errors as PPLX version
but mostly it's excellent, both in PPLX and Google
what error?
like for example, wrong analysis of PDFs
are you truly saying it that it makes errors?
point being that I don't see PPLX's version as weaker in any way raelly
and arguably is stronger with PPLX's RAG and style
I just reported above that even Claude Opus 4.1 Thinking made errors
Which is the best reasoning model with great pdf analysis?
depnds on your use case
for pdf chatgpt
for PDF analysis? I not sure tbh...even ChatGPT gets things wrong
but its lil better than pplx
but sure if had to pick one, maybe ChatGPT on its own platform tho
PPLX might be able to broadly win if u somehow knew which model to pick š
I find Claude 4.0 Sonnet on PPLX is good
Claude 4 Sonnet is solid
wrt to pdf analysis only
yep
nothing is 100% yall....even humans makes mistakes...and ai which is still at it's infancy, will NOT be perfect! š
I actually prefer PPLX's Spaces by a long shot over GPT's Projects
what about image analysis?
and also I prefer PPLX's style of GPT-5 Thinking in search for my use case
over ChatGPT
but it's sorta much in a muchness ultimately
GPT 5 thinking on PPLX is much of Plagiarism
i occasionally do image analysis much so idk. but pplx hasnt made me upset in image analysis
i'm waiting for the day i can point a camera at something and be able to buy things for family and friends without knowing their sizes...like shirt size..pants size...bra size...etc!!!
whats the best model for reasoning on PPLX with great analysis?
why did you include bra size .....
there's no "best"
i speak what pops in my mind...
"best" is use your brain š
it just came to me...sorry!
what type of analysis
image
lol
How is Sonar?
lol, currently it does not work for image analysis
hmm why not use gpt 5 for that
GPT 5 Thinking model isnt giving good responses I mean in good structure
by saying "good structure" the definition is dynamic what you call as good structure might not seem good to me
so for that you have to go for hit and trial method try all models one by one and see which one's structure is best for you
yup
but isn't all this subjective....?
one person can think one structure is good..another may not
but its true some models perform better than others
Can be, but the thing is other people might have found something good, which we have not. So its the best thing to ask here
