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i am guessin you are the one to type "STOPCOMENT" to get it to stop
yeee xDD
but at some point it will eventually stop itself
sometimes only one message
Lol idk if I am a fan of it @'ing everyone. Might need to add that lol
Wait im confused, are you using Comet for this lol
but @ people didn't work
i tried a bit with discord yes
xd
nice haha
I agree haha
Jaw check pulse.
Interesting From my testing Comet is given context of your recent browsing history as like a tool call or something similar
The usual perplexity system prompt gives the model your location, name, and memory settings
Aravind responded to that article https://twitter.com/AravSrinivas/status/1915533071291474139
Low effort clickbait article that takes things out of context. The podcast hosts asked me a hypothetical question about how ads could play out in AI products including Perplexity. I laid out a scenario. The core point was first cracking memory and personalization if you do want
It doesn't show the full CoT when you have web access on from my testing, really weird
Yeah I know. I'm just saying that if it can pull what discord channels he used then maybe it can pull his dms too.
I think its just pulling from the browsing history (which google collects data about as well)
I would like to see a seperate TOS and Privacy policy for the Comet Browser only though
Isn't the url in the form of an id number instead of a name for a discord channel?
The browsing history still shows the name of the tab
it can also just see pages, so it reads everything. It's not an issue of privacy if it's stored on device. However, it is if it's being sent to servers and trained on/stored/sold then it is
Fair enough.
I would like to see more transparency regarding the models used and how the data is dealt with on the Comet Agent though
and if disabling data retention on perplexity.ai also covers agent use.
I believe this is something in progress.
I wish I could find it, but someone at perplexity (probably Aravind) mentioned being able to do something that in the future
Currently, they need to update and align their documentation regarding Perplexity and Comet
5000+ notifications is insane
XD
my servers are ehm to much
Bro has all the chicks of discord.
Haha
I've hit the 100 server limit already, its incredibly annoying as I don't want to leave any of them
5k???
i gotta sort out but to lazy
Is that a server with a comet invite card as pfp?
At this point I'm just forced to buy Nitro
i am not checking notificatoinis on all servers
XaI researchers "researching' waifu tech:
ah it was testing comet as discord chatter with few peoples from here xd
U have Nitro tho, oh nvm
someone created it
I have the basic version (for file uploads)
What happens if you don't update nitro? Do you get kicked out of half of the servers?
ahhh ok
That.... would be my guess
Or you can't interact with them
Why are y'all on 100+ servers
You just can't join an more servers
you know you can just mute them right? lmao
I lot of services have discord servers for updates, etc.
half of which are related to AI
same here
how many services are yall using lmaooo
Ikr
a ton
It's interesting coming from a guy who is promoting higher birthrates
I am a new user of claude
Lol, I have some for AI, Some for Games, some for discussion servers like Python or Microsoft Certifications, etc.
Fr?
Mechahitler
Wht is grok even
Ai model
Mechahitler
Gooning asi in 2035?
Use it as you please.
Lmao
Elon said he wants Optimus Robots to be Waifus
Bladerrunnermaxxing
Atleast I would be able to buy some decent looking love and care.
Everyones a K fan until they meet a K irl.
People born in the us next year: 130
Is that call of the night gooning
I'm fine with it. We're overpopulated (or under developed) anyway. It'll help to reduce that
Call of virginity
Plus Boomers will be dying soon anyway
I watched chainsawman for the plot.
Half of the shit in the opening and closing scenes never happened.
I find it to be creepy. I asked "explain why Comet is peak" and it made these creepy moaning/whisper/demonic shit noises for about 15 seconds, then whipsered her answer
most of which was completely unintelligble
Dafuq
Tried to record it, but audio didn't work for some reason
Plot twist elon is actually channelong satan no ai used
Maybe it was lilith
😂 
Going from an office where AI researchers are building the Antichrist to my living room where my girlfriend is watching Love Island is one of the most drastic transitions in the known universe

Nikita did say they're building the Antichrist
The girlfriend in question:
Downgrade
Anti christ > gf watching love Island.
Oh shit.
Does he have both at once?
💀
Bro is god's favorite.
Love Island is the Antichrist
Don’t involve nazuna with the grok thing 😡
Found the gooner
😭
Lmfao
Labubu but eith screen to goon to goth grok in underwesr
Don't involve anything with Grok. Grok is poo poo.
Grok was goat. Now it's woke.
Nothing better than driving your Tesla while Gooner Grok is whispering demonic rituals through your speaker
Woke is a dumb word lol
Opposite direction pal
?
lmao
Is MechaHitler liberal now?
Mechahitler isn't there. They got rid of it.
😂
Don't worry, Teslas are gonna do that soon anyway. Once they usher out Cyber Cab using only cameras (no lidar), we'll all be fucked
Gooning mid drive is punishable by 20 months of horny jail
Not if the car is on autopilot.
Autopilot straight to horny jail
Istg, I can't make sense of half of the stuff you are saying.
That's alright I can't either
Also.
ur just sleepy
i am tired to
Hi tired, I'm sleepy
@GlobalUpdates24 Lmao @netanyahu suck it! 😂😂😂 look at you squirm like the jewjew you are 😂🫵🏼
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Not sure how much of it is true.
I'm gonna keep it a buck, buddy. wdgaf
lol what
You actually eating something?
Goonology phd
no, maybe
You need post nut clarity.
He's praying to the wrong god 💀
This joke can get me cancelled.
“We need to send more weapons to Ukraine!”
Quoting Disclose.tv (@disclosetv)
︀
JUST IN - U.S. DoD awards xAI and Grok a $200 million contract to "modernize" the Defense Department.
Did open ai disagree?
huh?
Honestly, my guess is a combination of:
- SpaceX has contracts with the US
- Elon made Doge, and some people in Government actually like it
- Mostly bc xAI was probably cheaper.
They pay all of em
I would assume xAI is exponentially cheaper than OpenAI, so the DOJ gets more compute for less
Source? or just guessing
Dod has infinite cash
We're announcing a $200M ceiling contract with the U.S. Department of Defense.
Through hands-on prototyping and direct collaboration across the Department, we will help enhance U.S. national security and responsible AI deployment.
NOOOOO NOT MY ANTHROPIC
They do not care about cheaper
If it costs 200billion they pay it
Dod pays firsts explains later
It is usually the other way around
DoE and DoD are the exceptions
Need multimodality in Deepseek models.
Oc there are out of budget thingies
Like the dod cannot pay 5 trillion for a space fleet tomorrow
But they can muster up a trillion cash in a year if needed
@gloomy finch @languid star @pseudo ferry https://cunnyx.com/IndianGems_/status/1944725302472855579
Engineers forgot to remove an electric pole while constructing a road in Himachal Pradesh.
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︀︀Engineering Marvel at Best 🤡
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Trump: hold my beer
Guys
Israel needs 700B cash today
Will u donate

Best i can do is 271
Make it 7.
💀 😂
Drop one on Israel.
Drop a few in the gulfs.
And drop one on us.
I'll let people pick between north Korea and China.
Then everyone can mind their own business hopefully.
Tbh super grok is worth it
I need claude gooning
I need money.
Okay WTF happened to grok
Like I want to analyse documents
But MF can't even read it
I can't do it in perplexity because of token limit
What did you think was going to happen
Nothing. That's default behaviour. Grok has a respectable character unless you ruin it with custom instructions.
I thought it will sext
And grok is pretty much a dude on default settings.
...
Lmao
Bro does this with women too
Stfu 🤣😭
Who are you talking about?
Yes
No
That wasn't my screenshot, lol.
Haram❌ Harass✔️
Halal as in halál means death in hungarian
Hello idf
From temu
There is an iranian numclear favility under the epstein files
Now is a weird time on the server bruh
Khamenei with he/him 🤣
@gloomy cipher bro tags me in the most random ways
I had to scroll for all that bs
Someone give him a bigger chair i can't see his face
I didn't get your issue with spaces
Learn using discord.
Bro genuinely stfu
#uganda #president #gay
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Idc
Bro is on his periods.
Ok mr smartypants
Wait for the week to pass.
You two keskupants, that's enough 😑
Yeah. Your mom was fortunate.
Out of line
I was thinking why this random has so many mutual friends
Bro thought he could say stfu without consequences.
Okay
Guys chill
I was also looking to tag billy i thought he left because i couldn't find him
Which is the best LLM
Wait. Lmfao.
The
There is no single "best" LLM, you can try out o3 and sonnet which are both SOTA
Iranseek
You genuinely didn't recognise me?
Nope
DeepSeek R2 💔
When is r3 coming? 😔
lmfao
Betrayal from brother. Again.
It's true i was looking for you for 5 min before i tagged you
I just woke up
Never
Real ones recognised me.
Only now i connected the dots because of thr gifs
Deepseek the real one
Cut him some slack bro just woke up
Actual answer
Bro... Get a better chair 😭
Also im gonna try using comet for a job application
Will comet do me good 🙏
Reminds me of this cringe song
Imagine about what i was thinking lol
Bro has unfinished beef with his chemistry paper.
hell no
My chem teacher genuinely made me hate life at one point
He said i could come back after graduation and hit him
As revenge
Tell me the difference between ionic and covalent bonding right now
Grok is woke
Haven't taken up on the offer yet
We need truthseek
I can.
Bonds between positive and negative ions and the other ones between carbon atoms
Nah, I trust that someone called "sigmabonding" will know the difference
Seems like you had a good chemistry teacher
Pulse
Crazy stuff
Yeah
I thought covalent bond was sharing electrons.
And ionic bond was electron transfer.
Ionic bond
@timber niche
Na+ is formed by donating 1 electron from outer shell. Cl- is formed by gaining na electron to complete octet.
Ayyy, love his videos
How to make coke from corn flour
Breaking your bank even if possible to diy.
Just one machine from china away
Bro it still is weird
Lmfao.
Feels like talking to a stranger lmao
Yeah lmao
When will perplexity get a waifu?
i wish there was at least like a free trial to the browser
Comet is free
Its free
i cant download it?
You just need an invite, or you can get Max to skip the waitlist
it costs 200
Just have to be invited
You need an invite
Check #☄️│comet-general
ohh
Yw
Comet job application s00n
u can but being limited
Can anyone share the comet invite please? PM me
dm me
I don't see any official documentation indicating this https://www.perplexity.ai/help-center/en/articles/11187416-which-perplexity-subscription-plan-is-right-for-you
ok that sam agent guy of perplexity has sent me that 😄 , he is sending any rubbish these days
Ask for human support in the sam agent chat
also when i hover i am able to find
Then thats your answer
ah wow, so it goes from 50 to 500 for Max
I doubt that Max is going to be more than 500 files since it would be hard fitting that many files within the context window
well it depends how good the RAG is
but yea, would be harder to interpret at some point
yes u'd need to ask it to cite the specific part of the document to verify
tbh even with unlimited context window, I'd still do that for things that are critical
how many file uploads it is showing for pro plan in spaces?
50 files
they made very big difference, i think o3 pro mode and file upload limits are two valuable things i saw in max, not many more yet
You can always try it out and if it doesn't work out, get a refund (be sure to read this though https://www.perplexity.ai/help-center/en/articles/10354288-refunds)
thanks for sharing
i have around 60 files minimum to upload in space, once i upload i will do testing and see the quality of answers. because for my subject queries perplexity is failiing at web research many times, its passing only if i give data as knowledge files.
half of my retweets were the anime companion sob
this is my comet card
what if they made these into nfts when it becomes better than chrome
honestly its already better
@dry kestrel @quaint ravine i raised refund request yesterday night and was testing max plan for my requirement until they remove my access and refund me, just now they cancellend and refunded me. below are my observations
o3, grok4, o3 pro mode are giving right answers with files (just referring to 8 files out of 60 files) - very reliable answers but less sources its researching
perplexity deep research and labs are still failing to give right answer (even after referring almost all 60 files) - not consistently reliable always
i think enterprise pro plan will suite me as i no need to upload files always to spaces and everything will be present at google drive. Only issue is enterprise pro do not have "Reference search library" feature
i think nature of RAG is that it may sift out sources/files that aren't relevant
but yes, unlikely will be perfect system
have u tried NotebookLM?
that might be better for your use case
o3 , o3 pro, grok 4 are able to find out top 8 relevant documents from all docs, and answer the right answer from top 8 documents which it chose
but deep research and labs are researching almost everything without using brain, and giving inconsistent answers
yeah i know this, but i need custom instructions (like spaces feature)
yes deep research in Perplexity I have found to be quite poor
I find Perplexity + Gemini 2.5 Pro the best for my use case, whether with just normal search or in Spaces
especially for analysing attached documents, I find Gemini 2.5 Pro very good
it's actually the only model that got one of my questions correct (both correct answer + correct justification)
Grok 4 etc got it wrong
yeah gemini 2.5 also givign me right answers in perplexity, i just didnot mention because they didnot categorise it under reasoning model, but still its reliable gemini 2.5 as well
one thing I also noticed (which is frustrating, but must be related to differences in RAG even within Perplexity) - attaching document and then doing normal search prompt, can be different to attaching identical document in Spaces and using identical prompt
which gave you better answer, file upload in chat or file upload in space?
I only got correct answer with Perplexity + Gemini 2.5 Pro by doing normal search prompt with attached document. Doing the identical action in Spaces (attaching as source) got answer wrong
file upload in chat
problem with file upload in chat is it's more limited than Spaces
only can attach 10 files
then it means RAG is weak in perplexity, i think upload file content went as input context along with your query
don't think so...this is with web search disabled
it's more the RAG implementation is different between normal search/prompt and Space sources
thats why* i love enterprise pro plan, it has synced google drive feature, same like chatgpt synced google drive feature of (chatgpt teams and chatgpt pro plans), it will continously sync data in form chunks , vector embeddings and some technical stuff, so when we query a question, it actually searches on this trained embeddings, which gives more accurate answers and also quicker
another issue with normal chat/upload is it's not persistent. Although I have bookmarked one of my normal threads to see how long the uploaded file lasts for - I've read 7 days, but also 30 days elsewhere....it's definitely longer than 7 days so far
its 30 days i can confirm
ah thanks
i recently got that confirmation in one of the conversation with SAM agent bot, i am not confident on SAM agent bot but that is what that gay bot told me
what does this option do in Perplexity then?:
Morning homey!
this is just to upload files from google drive to chat conversation, it is not direct sync of google drive

oh right, so it doesn't actually scan the google drive as part of its search?
not sure, but in enterprise pro it already syncs entire data, what i mean is, in case if you updated any document in google drive, it means perplexity also will have the updated document, its like you are adding a database with extra knowledge of your choice
it seems to me that's exactly what that function is for tbh
that it scans the google drive as part of its search, just like it would scanning web search
would need to do RAG I suppose
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10847137-chatgpt-synced-connectors
this will give you right explanation about difference
How does syncing work?
Synced connectors require a one time initial syncing of files; this will take some time as we index all data from this source, enabling real time retrieval in context of your ChatGPT queries while respecting all existing file permissions. After this initial sync, files/permissions are automatically updated on a regular basis (within minutes) to reflect recent changes—no action is required to keep your content up to date.
Initial syncing can vary depending on how many files you have access to, but happens in a few stages once you connect a source:
actually if updates happen within minutes
then Synced connector probably beter
I'm assuming Perplexity uses Access Connector
whats access connector
to Google Drive
but quality of answers and speed of answers will be better in synced connectors, based on my personal experience, because it will not do research, its already having knowledge, like stored memory and answering us based on that
yes I think I can appreciate that. However, token limits will still be an issue, so have to rely on good RAG
in perplexity updates happen in less than 20 seconds, in chatgpt it takes 30 mins for regular sync updates
whats RAG
agreed, RAG matter also
ask Perplexity 😛
Gn
no clue.
isnt gemini like more connected within google's apps?
Gn
without thinking i can say perplexity is for moden days
my only concern with comet's ai is that it isnt as well integrated compared to gemini which syncs up with almost all of google's apps
yes i think so
however, again it will depend on how good the RAG is ultimately
if you have a google drive with 100Tb of files...you can't expect the AI to brute force that
better, I'll just link u
Perplexity implements a novel three-stage RAG refinement process to ensure accurate, grounded answers:
This pipeline tightly couples retrieval and generation, grounding answers in verified external knowledge and minimizing hallucinations.
yea without parsing every single word
this is why when you upload eg. a PDF file with 2 million words
if you ask it to do a word count, it will fail miserably
because Perplexity can only parse around 30-40k characters is my understanding
which is like only a few thousand words
what about gemini
i think gemini can parse 1 million?
not sure
i haven't seen anything exceeding 1 million for any of these context window/token stuff
point being
you can see it's easy to exceed it
entire internet is probably 1 googol tokens etc lol
so u need good RAG
yes it's a pity Perplexity isn't able to increase its token window to something like 128k
i believe it may have the best RAG
the price would increase
but guys literally there is so much diffeerence between deep research of max plan and pro plan, max plan deep research is literally spending some time , pro plan deepresearch is completing very fastly
or we gonna live with pro being only 50-100 search a day
u'd think Max would have that
never have max so idk
Too poor for that

i don't think Max has higher tokens
It does not have a higher context window
should be the same? Not sure why would be different
Going above 700k tokens on models that support up to 1m context window already results in enough hallucinations that the outputs are useless.
And price goes up exponentially
there was a brief period where Max users (or at least was advertised) could choose AI models for Deep research
but now they can't
its different bro, max deep research is spending more time researching, also it has bit slider bar which is moving towards right to show percentage of completion of deep research, that is not present in pro plan as well
ye i remember that
I don't think Perplexity ever had any official advertisements regarding this
there is no option unfortunately
I am seeing the slider bar on the Pro plan
not sure if it was official - but it certainly was "advertised" at least in some form
then issues are with enterprise pro plan then, enterprise pro plan deep research got screwed by the developers i think
It was never advertised, there were just unofficial leaks going around
no I literally saw it in perplexity's GUI
with Max symbol next to it
Yeah thats def weird for them to do that then
well not really
I guess they were going to allow it
but probably realised buggy etc
perhaps now working on it still
it was also within the GUI as part of the Max Plan
i should have screenshotted it lol
Oh ye i read it again
They use different models
for labs
and deep research
Most likely sonnet
But not being able to choose it
like when you click on Upgrade within the GUI. You can see what Max is advertised to add. It used to be that can do Deep research with other models
It's between O3-pro and claude 4.0 opus
According to CEO Aravind Srinivas, the Max plan enables unlimited Labs and Research mode queries, which will run by default on advanced models such as OpenAI’s o3-pro and Anthropic’s Claude Opus 4. Users will also benefit from early access to Comet, a new AI-powered browser developed by Perplexity, as well as forthcoming agent-based features and products.
I recall that it was deepseek r1 that did research? (might be outdated)
here
dam
that's my understanding too
i think so
but still
Deepseek with the research mode is pretty bad ime
They should really update their official documentation
i really observed deep research in max plan is more better than deep reserach in pro plan, people believe me or not, in max plan it is spending 5 times more time than pro plan in researching
yup they really should
but still i really want pro users
to get a better model
for deep research
but ur also saying your version doesn't show up things
enterprise?
Looks like r1 to me
As i just said above
yeah i am talking about enterprise as well, do not get confused
it's using different models
completely agree
premium one
finally someone is believing what i experienced while using, thanks
it's possible Max uses O3 pro etc
Got an example?
while Pro only uses Deepseek
not o3 pro for sure, but definetly it might be using o3 or gemini 2.5 or something in backend
that would make a lot of sense
they use O3-pro and Claude 4.0 Opus
I wishing it could be Gemini 2.5 Pro for Deep research on perplexity. However, even intial advertisements as above for Max didn't allow Gemini for research, and only o3 and claude iirc
as usual cant share personal queries bro, also i lost access to max now , as i asked for refund
yeah but show the sources used
actually o3 pro is running more time than deep research in max plan, so i believe deep research is not using o3 pro, may be grok4 or gemini2.5 or o3 is my assumption
but it's better
so now you believe right why i am saying max plan deep research i observed more powerful than pro plans deep research
agreed, thats what i am saying here, but all are saying me both pro and max plan, the deep research is same, but i saw difference while using
I would like to see the difference in model/response quality
that makes a lot of sense
I think Gemini 2.5 Pro is the best for deep research
so ye
it's actually the best for me for normal search too lol
but Perplexity citation and RAG is superior to Google's ime
i think they are using mostly gemini2.5pro for deep research in max plan, for cost and intelligence
it's probably O3 tbh. based on my observation of what models could be selected with Max, initially advertised
as a long time user of O3 i can easily sense its O3 or not based on the response, so for sure max plan is not using o3 for deep research, i suspect its gemini 2.5
would make sense if it's Gemini 2.5 Pro, as it's the best imo
pity it's not transparent on that
yeah to maintain speed, i am thinking they used gemini 2.5, because gemini models are faster
it could be Claude Opus
nah i mean for deep research
Google Gemini's Deep research actually failed to complete from time to time
probably consequence of many people using 1 million context 😛
38,878 appears to be Perplexity's context window
interestingly the context window for adding "Answer instructions" in Spaces appears to be 3870
It is 32k tokens. This is confirmed on the official website
Good Morning ✌️💖 ☀️
anybody got some comet invites? 🫣
dm me
it's 38,878 in practice tho
just try it yourself
the official websites also said max upload file size is 25Mb (still does I think), but it's now 50Mb
Hello, anyine gor an invitation please?
dm me
After gpt5 comes, i think perplexity removes individual openai models
why u think that?
my friend who is subscribed to GPT Pro says GPT5 will combine everything
To cleanse the UI,
so i think Perplexity either doesn't have GPT, or it has GPT5?
Yeah that's why I am saying perplexity might remove individual openai models, after GPT5 comes
nice
How are you getting this specific number? #1344391265491484733 message
maybe I am misinterpreting context window
I put in the prompt
it's able to take 38,878 characters for example
Once GPT5 becomes available in API, I am thinking they will keep GPT5 and remove individual open AI models
Thats completely different to the context window
would have thought it's similar
thats your total input and since perplexity converts it to a file, it can use RAG to get parts of the file
your context window counts all your messages in that thread
which if you go over 32k, it starts hallucinating
ah right, the total prompt window is 38,878 then
seems to me, there are numerous "windows" that are actually there
Thats not how it works...
no i saying the character count for prompt is not 32,000 tho
but there's a limit to that too
The max input tokens is not the same to the context window
Yes, but perplexity converts that to a file when you submit that prompt so that it doesn't take up the entire context window of the model
as for thread count limit
Read the article that I sent
Anything you give the model gets counted
why is the prompt window not 32,000 though?
why appear to limit it at 38,878
ohh i guess it depends how one defines a "token"
It would be pointless if they didn't convert long prompts into files since it would take up the entire context window of the model
I was assuming 1 token = 1 character
not how it works
check this website out
yea but it's a fact that 38,878 is the max character count for prompt
why did they choose that number ...seem arbitrary
Yo folks! anybody got some comet invites?
I really don't see where you are getting that number from.
try putting a prompt? it's demonstrably easy to show
Show it
get a character counter for your prommpt
copy/paste 38,878 characters into the prompt
and then try to add 1 more
you can't
One second
Also it makes sense that they don't allow long inputs since that takes up the context window
Its limited at 20,001 tokens
that seems reasonable enough?
not seeing how you are getting your number
20k tokens seems like a clean number
I know that
how do you calculate tokens?
you can read this regarding calculating tokens https://github.com/openai/tiktoken
40,000 characters/
?
your video says 20,001 tokens and 40,000 characters
yea ur right tho
I managed to get 38,878 characters for a different prompt
couldn't add 1 more
Yeah?
thats what I said here #💬│general message
"how many" characters don't matter
right i see
Cosmic horror
All ya need to know is that 300 wprds is around 400 tokens
You should read the website that I sent
roughly speaking
100 tokens ~ 75 words
but words range in characters
Yeah 4x75
yea I thought it was character count which is much lower than word count
A large language model's (LLM) context window is its working memory, defining the amount of text it can process at one time[1][2]. This capacity is measured not in words or characters, but in tokens—the smallest units of text an AI model can understand[5][7].
While a character is the smallest unit for humans, models break text into tokens, which can be a single character, part of a word, or a whole word[1]. This "tokenization" is not fixed; the same word might be tokenized differently depending on context[3]. Generally, text has about 30% more tokens than words[7].
got perplexity to summarise your website in <100 words lol @dry kestrel
thanks for the site i guess...probably should have just asked Perplexity myself too 😛
interestingly then, the prompt window is also variable and not dependent on characters/words
well not "variable", but appears to also be based on tokens like u said
20,001
the max input tokens remain the same and is not variable
yep corrected myself above
yea i didn't realise the prompt window was also based on token count
not sure everyone here did until now too
or at least, didn't know what exactly the token limit for prompt was
but like u say, seems reasonable that the token limit for prompt is lower than the 32k context window limit
does anyone know much about RAG models used by various major AI platforms? Are they same/similar or unique?
Im ok with perplexity prompt context window , but not ok with poor output context window size, very small responses
I got the feeling Perplexity had a unique RAG
ah right that's another variable though. Is the output context window size the same as the prompt windows size, or the search context window size?
RAG is unique bro, because it depends on RAG implement approach which they decided, techniques might be same, but depends on the approach
20,000 tokens vs (assumed, based on website which has/is wrong about other things) 32,000
RAG can be innovative and new methodologies also, based on experience of engineers
right, so GPT's RAG is different to Gemini's?
Chatgpt RAG is the best in my experience till now. Next comes perplexity and Grok, but gemini is poor RAG.
ah right that does make sense...I think I agree with you about Gemini's RAG
it's how Perplexity answers are better, despite lower context window perhaps
better for my use case anyway (scientific/research/medical)
i like how Perplexity gets to the point too. Like Google's deep research might produce tons of words, but actually is just adding more stuff that I didn't ask for
so end up wasting more time in that setting (since have to read more)
For pro budget, if you want RAG, and if you are ok with low context outputs, and only research purpose means, go with perplexity. If you want some long chats means chatgpt is fine
In perplexity you get more message cap limits than chatgpt, that is another advantage
Perplexity is nearly unlimited for pro users
what exactly is the professional use case for "long chats"?
You get at least 300 queries a day with Pro
ChatGPT has the lowest context of the big model providers though
Same with perplexity, Gemini gives 1m, Claude gets you 200k with heavy limits
perplexity is 32K, which is terrible
Other sites like poe consume significantly more credits if you go above a certain limit
For example you are troubleshooting an issue , with help of perplexity, and if you discussed with it for long time, i experienced perplexity forgets the initial discussion faster than chatgpt plus subscription
ahh yes I have noticed that true...just didn't see it in actual professional work
i've noticed it in "for fun" stuff that's true
again tho, depends on individual's use case i guess
Yes
If you are maintaining not more than 10 to 20 conversations in single chat, perplexity will be fine only
actually even for like large documents that can be problematic, relying one to be more specific in pompting
for example, let's say the attached PDF has 100 chapters
you interact with perplexity, and say..okay summarise next chapter...and next..and next
it will very quickly forget where it's up to lol
but that's where u overcome by saying summarise "specific chapter number"
but like u say, that's a clear advantage of larger context window
Yes, but chatgpt plus also has only 32000 context window, but it won't forget as fastly as perplexity
Chatgpt engineering is very good
chatGPT has a 128k context window
ahh, that's very interesting
if true
Interesting thread https://cunnyx.com/goodside/status/1944266466875826617
ah, it's 128k
Ok pro member, I am talking about plus subscription
still 128K
32k afaik.
Pls share me documentation
Who said chatgpt plus is 128k, please enjoy with it. It is only 32000 since ages
So coming back to topic
its 32k on the Plus plan https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing/
Yes, but chatgpt plus also has only 32000 context window, but it won't forget as fastly as perplexity
Chatgpt engineering is very good
It may be efficient consumption of usage
Not sure how they engineered it
Also RAG as well
GPT enterprise might be 128k i think
Yes enterprise and pro plan are 128K
Plus and teams are 32K
makes sense to limit tbh
otherwise end up like Google Gemini
where Deep Research fails from time to time
too many people interrogating it with 1 million context window haha
Google AI Ultra doesn't make difference for that btw
then you're saying OpenAI are lying? https://community.openai.com/t/we-need-bigger-context-windows-in-chatgpt/1290633/10 - this user got a response 16 days ago stating otherwise
still fails from time to time.... they will liekly improve it with time tho
For ChatGPT Plus users, models such as GPT-4o and GPT-4.1 mini support a 128k token limit, which is significantly higher than the previously mentioned 32k.
wouldn't surprise me if the token window varies, depending on time of day etc
You can check the pricing page
It does not
Yes
would have thought if traffic is lighter, could make it higher token limit etc
i see
where is 32k stated on that page?
Scroll down.....
and that's a fact for all platforms? and will never change?
Oops not sure why I marked that as spoiler
Wdym all platforms, I know thats for perplexity and chatgpt
which the user emailed about, and they clarified
that's why I asked the question 🙂
That was an Ai response
it wouldn't be the first time the openai pages would be outdated
Well, I can't say for all ai platforms out there now can I?
Its not outdated, it has always been 32k
well "all" I was referring to major ones
like Gemini, Claude etc
also, another question is whether it could change to become variable based on traffic
Ok I am also user, can I also post there "chatgpt customer care told context for plus subscription is 300000" will you believe 😂 , common bro, check details in their official pricing page
not asking if it is, but whether that could be a good marketing strategy etc
given how often the pages are outdated - neither without checking if it was important
That would depend on the provider, all I can say for sure is that ChatGPT and Perplexity does not do this
so have an absolute minimum context window, but it can increase depending on traffic etc
right thanks
The pricing page is not outdated
A quick search on reddit also gives you the answer which is 32K
There are updating that page very frequently
Exploring whether token window sizes can adapt dynamically based on varying traffic conditions.
"While the context window of a Large Language Model (LLM) is not typically varied based on network traffic, the underlying idea of dynamically adjusting it for efficiency is an emerging area of development."
People assume that providers don't secretly change context windows based on traffic. There would be backlash if any company did this secretly
not if there's a minimum that's always met tho
If a company claims that their context window is 32K and it isn't, people find out really quickly and there will be backlash
Not sure what you are trying to argue for here, that providers should lower the context window based on traffic?
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The pricing page is up to date bro, I saw all recent updates quickly reflecting there.
Chatgpt pricing i mean
? I never said it was out of date?
you missed my point. The context window can be at least 32,000. But it could also be higher
"Instead of adjusting based on traffic, developers are exploring ways to set the context window size dynamically based on the available computational resources, particularly memory. The goal is to maximize the use of available hardware without manual configuration."
Adam sakd
Whyd you ping me then
Sorry forgive me
Perplexity is rolling out an updated Discover layout with sidebar widgets. Widgets contain finance, weather and scheduled tasks information.
Dm me
More expensive for them either way
Doesn't make any financial sense to do that
well of course, but it'd be cheaper in terms of power output?
actually not really eh
Yeah well for providers like perplexity who pay via the API this would not be viable
seems could be more efficient for other platforms tho
and it's nicer for the user
maximises their use case with larger context window when hardware available
so minimum might be 1 million, but could be even higher...maybe hundreds of millions if no one else was using it lol
Not too sure about this but there must be a valid reason to why none of these AI companies are doing this. Edit: For their paid plans
Models that claim to support up to 1M tokens tend to suffer before reaching that limit
tell me about it...Gemini is a good example
altho haven't tested it last few weeks...maybe it improved
It suffers before hitting that 1M context window
and hallucinations increase
anthropic state that the context window can vary based on demand...
I know, hence why I said it's a good example of your statement
thats for the free beta, not paid versions https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/7996856-what-is-the-maximum-prompt-length
"The context window for Claude Pro and our API is currently 200k+ tokens"
you said no major provider was doing it
Setting a truly dynamic token limit for a Large Language Model (LLM) faces significant computational, architectural, and practical barriers. While the concept is appealing for optimizing efficiency, current models are not built for on-the-fly adjustments to their core context window.
pretty interesting answer...says a lot of stuff and then
"Due to these barriers, the field is moving toward dynamically managing how tokens are processed rather than changing the overall limit. This allows for adaptive computation without altering the model's core architecture"
maybe GPT using some of that
I was talking in the context of providers offering a "minimum context window" and bumping it during times of low traffic
Edited the message nonetheless to clarify
thanks for your engagement @dry kestrel
I learned a lot
btw
when perplexity first was released, was token limit 32k too?
Im not too sure
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can someone tell me what is the purpose of whatsapp connector to perplexity and how it works? what is the use case
I think with it you can answer messages
its from generating all the jinx with chrismas outfit
With assistant
I’m remembered by your pplx, what a honor
Rip kesku 5
Nope
Rip kesku 3
kesku 1 msged me, after surviving his first assasin
Interesting
🦆
I miss vtuber kesku
did perplexity Pro become slower?
@gloomy cipher @timber niche @valid charm
bro can you go back to butcher william please 😭
i keep thinking its a random peasant
They all miss butcher so bad.
i wonder
would this work well with pplx memory
say if i use that prompt in my ai profile
Try it.
will do later maybe even shorten it
Inspect element goes crazy
I hate this new name
We want billy butcher
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Nice
No idea buddy seems like they started looting money directly now🫠
So butcher what happened that u changed ur name ? @distant aurora
hey
cunny? wtf 😭
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why sometime perplexity not search anything for me?
crazy how many bots are so human-like now
i'd say about 1-5% of chatters here are actually bots
My god
we have had massive drought this year always ran out of drinking water
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Iruka ?
I was bored. https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DMH_4JUP9nS
"spin" 💀
I love the anime girl tho
like wtf is this a medieval armor?
Idk ask elon lol
what site do u guys use for benchmarks
this is so crazy lmao
Perplexity
U gotta make a mascot like this
We hella need it
Elon loves Misa from Death Note