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[gloomy cipher]

Omg

WHY AM I SHORT

[distant aurora]

Potato

[gloomy cipher]

😭

[timber niche]

Duck

[distant aurora]

Goose

[short narwhal]

is it accurate?

[gloomy cipher]

AND WHY AM I NAKED

[gloomy cipher]

No iam 185

[timber niche]

Me and Billy always mad

Lmao

[distant aurora]

I know right.

[timber niche]

Wtf

[gloomy cipher]

No nsfw in chat

[short narwhal]

imagine being the same height as a potato

[gloomy cipher]

Where is my clothes

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-suits-look-face-cool-gif-1011077770396773031

[gloomy cipher]

Jokes on you pato came from potato

[short narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[timber niche]

Good family photo finally

[distant aurora]

@dry kestrel

100 per month though.

😭

[timber niche]

Ooo

How'd you check alr

I thought it'll be under 1500

[distant aurora]

That diamond icon means 100 credit one.

[timber niche]

Ohh

[pseudo ferry]

@cobalt vale

[gloomy cipher]

How does this bring your own key work can I use bring any key even if the model isn't from open ai?

[timber niche]

Api yes

No i think the models need to be defined there

Like opus and o3 pro and so on

Atleast in t3 chat

It would be nice to have some boths in chat here

To check how many messages one has sent in this server and so on lol

[lone hound]

Ok

I do it and I share it

[short narwhal]

it shows the total messages when you search for someones messages (doesn't work on mobile)

[timber niche]

Cheers

[gloomy cipher]

It doesn't?

[timber niche]

But have to check by channel lmao

[short narwhal]

Mobile shows 100+ always

[short narwhal]

I think it searches all channels at once though?

[cobalt vale]

pepeyay

[short narwhal]

nvm 1000+ it was

[timber niche]

1000+

[distant aurora]

in: #channel

[short narwhal]

yeah if you want to specify one channel

[distant aurora]

Add that and it filters a particular channel.

[cobalt vale]

rip plus users

[dry kestrel]

Lmao stupid premium model

They really need to redo how premium credits work

[dry kestrel]

Interesting tgat they made it available for team users

Lemme try it out

[cobalt vale]

I was right

[cobalt vale]

I'm team and don't have it :(

[timber niche]

Is there pro and plus in teams users

Or just the standard one

[cobalt vale]

not gonna hope 🥲

[dry kestrel]

???

[dry kestrel]

Thats not too bad

[timber niche]

Is there different tiers for teams

I got the 1 usd one with current promo

[dry kestrel]

No

[timber niche]

Will i get o3 pro

I check on android it's not available

[cobalt vale]

massive improvement

[timber niche]

Maybe should check web

[cobalt vale]

this is also a rare Google W

thanks to them for providing the competition

[timber niche]

From o1 pro being 600 usd

[dry kestrel]

Working well

[timber niche]

On android and don't see it for teams

[pseudo ferry]

@short narwhal @minor shard

[timber niche]

@short narwhal you have 3000 odd messages, i have 4.5k

Lol

[short narwhal]

Where did @gloomy cipher go D:

[gloomy cipher]

hi iam doing something illegal

[pseudo ferry]

That's what I'm suprised it removed

[gloomy cipher]

why did i become a cat

[distant aurora]

That's jawn

[pseudo ferry]

Let me fix it

[cobalt vale]

Jawnze is in Starfleet?

[gloomy cipher]

aww @timber niche looks like a baby

[distant aurora]

Gemini deserves all the hate.

[timber niche]

Better than not existing like you lol

[pseudo ferry]

And you're a king in there

[timber niche]

I been here 10 days lol

Im coming for billy 💀💀

[gloomy cipher]

oi u play league aswell?

[timber niche]

Almost 20k messages

[gloomy cipher]

how about the duck?

[short narwhal]

nahh, I downloaded it for a bit after arcane though

Still have it on my pc

[distant aurora]

Cuz of how awful Gemini has been, I'm thinking of making a dedicated thread just to make my criticism prompts more hurtful and degrading.

[timber niche]

Mere 1250

[distant aurora]

I'm too lazy and tired to do it myself.

Let ai write insults for ai.

[gloomy cipher]

iam the youngest

[valid carbon]

I suggest how to make a function in Claude when the code writes there was a separate window.

[fickle sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727689277219012669/1382097881946783896/PXL_20250610_182259666.mp4?ex=6849ea75&is=684898f5&hm=c36ce65b671ba64c7d3a7183dec29342ed46ecacb88f9774513604545997f8e2&

[distant aurora]

I feel very tired today.

[distant aurora]

I love crows.

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-lenny-leonard-listening-interested-attentive-gif-4574713

[prisma apex]

How comes we cannot attach images to spaces? Like pngs etc

[lone hound]

@gloomy cipher
The translation of the prompt into English is now available, download it from here:
#1381764428982390917 message

[gloomy cipher]

thanks ❤️

[fickle sorrel]

I have encountered a wild crow at my location that perches on a traffic sign and requests peanuts from me.

I find this very positive.

At 10:28 PM, there is a path that splits into two directions; on one path, I placed a mutant XXL peanut, and on the other path, a normal small peanut. The crow selected the XXL peanut.

[distant aurora]

What's special about this mutant peanut?

[pseudo ferry]

@gloomy cipher

[fickle sorrel]

its gigantic.

[minor shard]

Awe ❤️

[fickle sorrel]

2x the length of normal unroasted peanut

[distant aurora]

Gang

[distant aurora]

Nice.

[minor shard]

https://tenor.com/view/ísak-orri-gang-gang-ísak-orri-leifson-cool-ísland-gif-25426109

[distant aurora]

What's the price difference?

[fickle sorrel]

what food next

[gloomy cipher]

its good to see my clothes 🫶 but iam still short 😠

[distant aurora]

I read it as bang first.

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-suits-look-face-cool-gif-1011077770396773031

[mental sluice]

[gloomy cipher]

also need kirai and systemzx as our grandfather since they do all the hard work

[pseudo ferry]

In the pic?

[gloomy cipher]

is it possible?

what did u use

[pseudo ferry]

Perplexity

[gloomy cipher]

hmm

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-tuff-sudsy-edit-gif-13495748231822817729

[gloomy cipher]

the style looks of for perplexity tho

are u sure its img1>

[fickle sorrel]

what food next
what food next
what food next
what food next
what food next

[distant aurora]

Today Gemini will get bullied.

[distant aurora]

What can you afford?

[fickle sorrel]

your family.

[distant aurora]

Lol. Okay.

[fickle sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bald-gif-26454753

[distant aurora]

Hopefully you can afford mental health support too.

[fickle sorrel]

omg why u insluted

[gloomy cipher]

@timber niche @distant aurora look at my hand 😭 😭

[fickle sorrel]

what did i say

[distant aurora]

In Harvey's underarm.

[gloomy cipher]

Look at u hugging that cat like it's ur pet

[timber niche]

My avatar is so messed up as well lol

[distant aurora]

Wait. There are two ducks.

[distant aurora]

Feed it salmon. Most nutritionally comprehensive food afaik.

[valid charm]

Is that from Playground?

[fickle sorrel]

ok i am not rich

[distant aurora]

Blud went from affording my family to peanuts.

[fickle sorrel]

/s /s /s /s /s

[valid charm]

Awwwww yeeeeeeee

[fickle sorrel]

:annoyed:

[timber niche]

Where

[distant aurora]

Under

[timber niche]

Api? Idk

[distant aurora]

Yes. Api.

[timber niche]

Hmm

[distant aurora]

Open ai playground I think.

[valid charm]

https://platform.openai.com/playground/ here

[timber niche]

Idk why my teams acc doesn't have o3pro yet

[cobalt vale]

yes

[timber niche]

Yeet

[valid charm]

Dayummmmm

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-chinese-egg-man-chinese-guy-eats-raw-eggs-raw-eggs-raw-eggs-chug-gif-19458097

Get real guys

[timber niche]

Sup

[distant aurora]

Been a while d and t

[timber niche]

300g protein

[distant aurora]

Everything good on your end?

[cobalt vale]

they said starting today, probably staggered rollout

[timber niche]

Okay

Got it

[distant aurora]

Followed by 300 minutes diarrhoea.

If it was nutritionally viable, I would eat chicken shwarma all day.

[timber niche]

I do eat it

For lunch

Almost daily

Lol

It's cheap and gets me full

[obsidian umbra]

why isnt there a fast way to turn memory off

🙄

[timber niche]

Pplx or

[obsidian umbra]

yea

[distant aurora]

Devs ain't very fast.

[valid charm]

yeah lots of trouble at work lol

[timber niche]

Yeah you can from web only

[valid charm]

What is the context size of o3 Pro?

[obsidian umbra]

23 tokens

total

[timber niche]

Should be same as o1 pro afaik

[distant aurora]

Hopefully you didn't get in similar trouble like before.

[valid charm]

No lololol. Upper management is trying to cut down my staff head count

[timber niche]

That's terrible

[valid charm]

All while I'm fixing a huge mistake of theirs

[timber niche]

Upper suckers

[distant aurora]

Lay offs?

[valid charm]

peak SOTA

[valid charm]

Yeah

[valid charm]

This is o3 Pro itself answering

[distant aurora]

It's probably same as O3.

[timber niche]

Lmfao

[short narwhal]

200,000 context window

[lone hound]

@cobalt vale Is the o3 model decent for advanced narratives that require precise calculations?

[short narwhal]

https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/o3-pro

[timber niche]

Gemini told it?

[timber niche]

Ah

[short narwhal]

I’m not trusting a word that comes out of that things mouth

[distant aurora]

Gemini is shit.

Benchmarks are rigged.

[timber niche]

Lmao

So essentially

O3pro is o3

But bumped tf up

[distant aurora]

Yes

O3 pro is O3 with overthinking.

[short narwhal]

Yeah same as o1 pro basically

More compute thrown at it or something like that

[obsidian umbra]

so they threw money at it n it got slightly better

🗿

[cobalt vale]

I don't know... 😭

[obsidian umbra]

atleast normal o3 is 80% cheaper :)))

[lone hound]

May 31, 2024 knowledge cutoff

Outdated

[timber niche]

That's all it's about

[short narwhal]

That’s my #2 goat OpenAI

[distant aurora]

I'm broke

[timber niche]

Betraying claude

[distant aurora]

I can't afford chatgpt.

[gloomy cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-eye-popping-eyes-popping-eyes-pop-gif-19360349

[short narwhal]

😭 noo i could never

[gloomy cipher]

why is it so expensive

[distant aurora]

Claude is the side guy.

[obsidian umbra]

would be funny if they made o3 shitty and o3 pro is just old o3 😭

[timber niche]

Literally did that to your bestie

[distant aurora]

Lmao, fr.

[short narwhal]

Just be happy that it isn’t 600 per 1m output anymore

[timber niche]

Exactly

[obsidian umbra]

dont doubt the ability of open ai

joepray

[gloomy cipher]

dude, gemini 0605 is 10$ per 1m and its wrecking a lot of ais

[short narwhal]

Fixed it

[valid charm]

Hmm

[gloomy cipher]

deepseek is also lowcost

[timber niche]

Betrayal stays can't edit feelings

[valid charm]

I hope the increase usage quota for Plus users

[gloomy cipher]

apple user detected

[timber niche]

We been telling

[obsidian umbra]

real 💔

LOL they actually labeled it w the date 😭

[distant aurora]

@valid charm is open ai playground pay as you go?

[short narwhal]

Sorry…

[obsidian umbra]

dont be sorry

[short narwhal]

nooo I didn’t mean itt

[obsidian umbra]

its a good thing

❤️

[gloomy cipher]

yea 03 not 03 high

[short narwhal]

At least someone’s got my back

[valid charm]

yeah with free tokens daily if you allow your usage to be used for training

[distant aurora]

Will private account do?

[lone hound]

And outdated

[distant aurora]

I thought it needs company account.

[timber niche]

Ew

[cobalt vale]

nothing comes close to OG o3-preview

[timber niche]

Betrayal should not be encouraged

[gloomy cipher]

am i the only one who didnt read that as an apology? i tho u were asking me a question 😂

[valid charm]

I have a personal accaunt with verification. All I did is take a selfie and flash my ID

[distant aurora]

Where's my boy r2?

[short narwhal]

It was both

[distant aurora]

Company id?

[valid charm]

What is Pareto?

[valid charm]

Nahhh my regular ID

[distant aurora]

Is that necessary? What for?

[valid charm]

It says Company verification but it just asks for normal personal ID

[obsidian umbra]

why is my goat 2.5 so low

💔

[valid charm]

It enables detailed summaties of the CoT

[distant aurora]

Oh.

[valid charm]

Suppusedly can be used to crate jailbreaks

[timber niche]

👀

[cobalt vale]

wtf why did they cap it to 1k reasoning tokens

[gloomy cipher]

did they increasethe output?

[obsidian umbra]

what was this for

[gloomy cipher]

100k ouput is crazy i wonder what they limited down to in perplexity

[obsidian umbra]

i was about to say nothing cuz the models not in pplx

but it is 😭

when did they remove o4m

[gloomy cipher]

even higher than geminis output

but i bet its something like 4k in perplexity 🥲

[obsidian umbra]

whats sonnet limited to?

[cobalt vale]

no reason to use o4-mini when o3 is there

[gloomy cipher]

which one

there is a lot of version of sonnet

[obsidian umbra]

either

well, reasoning

4.0

on pplx

[distant aurora]

@valid charm am I supposed to select purchasing as business?

[gloomy cipher]

i couldnt find the thinking model but maybe its 2in1?

[obsidian umbra]

i dont think it matters

u just go to data controls and enable sharing

i think

[distant aurora]

Which one? Also, what does that 7 free weekly evals mean?

[short narwhal]

You need to pay first for it to show up

[obsidian umbra]

are they even offering the thing anymore

i jus read its til april 2025

🗿

[short narwhal]

They extended it

[obsidian umbra]

again?

[cobalt vale]

also I think it's 250k tokens on o3 unless you pay $100 for API tier 3

[obsidian umbra]

yea

u have to put in atleast $5

[royal ingot]

guys, i just tried the o3 reasoning model in pplx. it takes about 30-45 seconds to generate an answer and then the entire answer just appears instead of being slowly typed like other models (token by token)

is this a bug?

[gloomy cipher]

headsup virtual/prepaid/paypla/google pay are not supported

[distant aurora]

I don't have to select purchasing as business though, right?

[gloomy cipher]

Tier 1 and Tier 2 are the 200 ish k token

t4 and t5 are the 1m

[short narwhal]

Nah you don’t

[gloomy cipher]

no additionally you can invitie other into your organization 🥺

[obsidian umbra]

did pplx just get o3, or has it had it for a while?

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[obsidian umbra]

joestandstare

[cobalt vale]

just got it after today's price drop

[cobalt vale]

also t3

[obsidian umbra]

thats normal

i believe

[obsidian umbra]

ah ok

no "new" thing is weird then

thinking1

[royal ingot]

i think that should not happen. it doesn't happen in any of the other reasoning models.

also the other reasoning search the web while this one just stays blank for 30 - 45 seconds

[royal ingot]

lmao

[obsidian umbra]

it just doesnt stream the response...?

not that big of an issue

ah

i see what u mean

maybe this is a bug

[royal ingot]

yeah...

[obsidian umbra]

didnt happen last time

[gloomy cipher]

bro is meditating

[obsidian umbra]

but I do have web turned off for this prompt soooo

[royal ingot]

turn on web and it still won't search most of the times (i never got it to search)

tried other models with the same query, they do search

[obsidian umbra]

well it finished

💀 corny ass name ngl 😭

[royal ingot]

whats that?

[obsidian umbra]

the first thing i always ask a model

just to make a calculator with as many features as possible

[royal ingot]

okay correction. it does search when you explicity tell it to. but it is very less likely to search compared to other reasoning models

[obsidian umbra]

mine searched just fine

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/explain-and-create-a-comprehen-ROwkUYyvTdCNvNYVfOxl6g

🤷‍♂️

i worded that prompt so weird

😭

[royal ingot]

hmmm, it works

guess mine was a one off

but i think they have done something at the backend to make it call search less often or something

[distant aurora]

@short narwhal @cobalt vale nice

[obsidian umbra]

does it stack

orr

[distant aurora]

Wdym?

[obsidian umbra]

is it just 250k a day total

then resets to 250k

[distant aurora]

Yes

Seems like it.

[obsidian umbra]

sadge

[dry kestrel]

nice, do you happen to use the API a lot?

[distant aurora]

Never.

First time trying this.

[dry kestrel]

Oh

wait let me check mine

[distant aurora]

I'm wondering how to track token usage.

[left barn]

You can ask perplexity itself 😂

[obsidian umbra]

should say it on site

🤷‍♂️

[distant aurora]

I don't see any option to use o4 mini.

For O3 it's asking verification of organization.

[left barn]

Are you busy today?

[gloomy cipher]

could someone explain this to me wtf does mini high mean

[distant aurora]

Extra thinking.

[gloomy cipher]

so is it mini or high

or is it between mini and normal

[obsidian umbra]

it works

🗿

[royal ingot]

yay

[dry kestrel]

the model is o3 mini and the reasoning is set to high

It just allows the model more tokens to reason

aka better response

[gloomy cipher]

i see thanks

[distant aurora]

How do I give the model internet access on playground?

Also, can it access tools too?

@cobalt vale

[cobalt vale]

idk...

[distant aurora]

Have you never tried it?

[royal ingot]

does the pplx api (that comes with a $5 credit every month for pro users) also have the TTS pplx uses?

[distant aurora]

@valid charm @short narwhal

[cobalt vale]

I got the month of ChatGPT Team instead

[short narwhal]

Nah

[obsidian umbra]

LOL

[short narwhal]

No clue, never used the playground

[dry kestrel]

on platform.openai.com?

[obsidian umbra]

it does NOT know what buttons should be on a calc 😭

[distant aurora]

Yeah

[dry kestrel]

itll cost you money

[distant aurora]

Huh.

So 5 dollars wasted.

[short narwhal]

-0 🙏

[dry kestrel]

They bill tool calls as well

I think its per use

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/tools-web-search?api-mode=responses

[distant aurora]

Bruh.

[obsidian umbra]

divide by 4 😭

LOLL

[royal ingot]

is there any way i can access pplx TTS altogether for my mini project? i was looking for a good free TTS but all of them are paid options (the good ones).

The best i found was google ai studio which is also limited via the api i think

[distant aurora]

🥲

[obsidian umbra]

host it locally 🤷‍♂️

[royal ingot]

wdym? host what locally?

[distant aurora]

Could have used it on open router instead.

[short narwhal]

The TTS

[dry kestrel]

What are you trying to use

o3 pro?

[obsidian umbra]

tts

[short narwhal]

I think pplx uses/used eleven labs for TTS

[dry kestrel]

also yeah openrouter is amazing

[distant aurora]

I needed strong reasoning model with web search for research.

[obsidian umbra]

I want sesame to release their speech already !!!!

[dry kestrel]

why not just use the 5 free DR

[royal ingot]

yeah yeah i get that but host which TTS locally? i mean ik these are some stupid questions i am asking but i really don't know much about TTS

[dry kestrel]

or something like exa api

[cobalt vale]

the voice quality is so 💩

[distant aurora]

Cuz no one told me.

[dry kestrel]

I think theres also ways to integrate google API using open web ui

[worldly nova]

Since I bought I code online how long will the code be active before I lose my pro. I’m using it for a project so I want to prepare

[distant aurora]

I'll suffer in silence now.

[dry kestrel]

plex it next time

[royal ingot]

its okish, compared to the open source ones i found, this was far better

[gloomy cipher]

it doesnt feel as good as eleven unless it was an old version

[short narwhal]

Probably old

[cobalt vale]

also this is allegedly part of the pplx voice system prompt

[gloomy cipher]

use blackbox they have good models and its 3 month free

or alternatively use openrouter with your fav ai

[cobalt vale]

not sure why, since iirc it can't do accents

[idle hull]

india is rich bro

[green crystal]

So wait o3 cost the same as gpt 4.1 then

Wtf openai gimme higher rate limits

[gloomy cipher]

wdym

[obsidian umbra]

not if u account for cost of reasoning

blue_shrug

but its crazy how close they are pricing them

[green crystal]

Its accounted for in the per million token price

[obsidian umbra]

is it?

[green crystal]

Should be otherwise it would be free reasoning tokens lol

[cobalt vale]

they charge for the CoT tokens, even though we can't access them

[green crystal]

In any case if the price reduction is enough that even pplx can use it then they can definitely up the limits allot...

[obsidian umbra]

oh u mean on the chatgpt site it self

[cobalt vale]

so they are technically free to make up a number if they wanted

[royal ingot]

pplx is using it...

[obsidian umbra]

never seen sonnet code this much on pplx

[green crystal]

Yeah

Apparently

[dry kestrel]

https://x.com/kevinweil/status/1932565467736027597

Kevin Weil 🇺🇸 (@kevinweil)

Because you all asked: we're going to double the rate limits for o3 for Plus users. Rolling out as we speak. Now go do awesome stuff with it!

X · Jun 10, 2025, 10:28 PM

o3 limits doubling again

[obsidian umbra]

@green crystal 🗿

[gloomy cipher]

openai or perplexity?

[dry kestrel]

openai

[obsidian umbra]

openai

[dry kestrel]

there is no Plus plan on perplexity

[gloomy cipher]

so 200k?

[dry kestrel]

huh

[gloomy cipher]

rn 100k is output token

[dry kestrel]

what are you talking about

[gloomy cipher]

oh this is for subscribers nvm

[green crystal]

Ahhhh

Dammit not even 50 per day

[gloomy cipher]

i tho its for the api

[dry kestrel]

It was originally 100 uses a week of o3 on the chatGPT plus plan

[green crystal]

[dry kestrel]

now its going to be 200

[obsidian umbra]

wait

how many uses do u get daily

[gloomy cipher]

i got confused with the api

[obsidian umbra]

😭

i thought it was 50 a day before

[dry kestrel]

it resets weekly

[obsidian umbra]

or atleast 25

[dry kestrel]

was originally 100 a week

[valid charm]

Only a few models can get the internet search tool

[obsidian umbra]

is it 50 a week?

oh

[green crystal]

I use 3 or 4 because I'm using it sparingly lol

[cobalt vale]

bruh only double

[wise nova]

Amazing, o3 and Gemini 06-05

[gloomy cipher]

what if you use "bring your own api''

[dry kestrel]

you can do that with something like openwebui

and link it to googles own api

[green crystal]

He might aswell write "here take these bone scraps and shut up!" Lol

[valid charm]

@distant aurora https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing enable free tokens here

[cobalt vale]

pepecringe

should be at least 50/day

[dry kestrel]

its already much better than the old 50 a week

[valid charm]

Definetly works

[dry kestrel]

meanwhile t3 users getting 100 a month

[green crystal]

True but with teams getting o3 pro and the price being reduced by so much it should atleast be 50 per day for plus users

[dry kestrel]

lol

[green crystal]

Hopefully people are pissed off enough they increase it more

[dry kestrel]

tbh o4 mini high > o3

I dont even use o3 on the Pro plan lol

[green crystal]

Nah there's a clear difference when having it do different tasks in a prompt that work towards a single goal

[obsidian umbra]

why?

[dry kestrel]

overall intelligience is the same, o3 has a higher budget for tool calls

[dry kestrel]

o4 mini high often performs better and much faster

[green crystal]

@distant aurora explained the difference nicely

[dry kestrel]

its mainly just speed

[cobalt vale]

💩

[obsidian umbra]

so its o3m and o1 all over again?

[green crystal]

And it matches with what I experienced

[dry kestrel]

o1 sucks compared to o3 mini high

[obsidian umbra]

yea

[green crystal]

In any case let's hope people toss enough pitchforks at OpenAI

[dry kestrel]

i heard that they were planning on putting 2.5 pro to a prem model as well

[green crystal]

For more stuff

[wise nova]

Why o3 better o4-mini?

[green crystal]

Seems like the majority of comments don't like it

There's hope

[obsidian umbra]

100 a week is like

15 or 14 a day right

[valid charm]

peak SOTA gemini

[obsidian umbra]

LOL

[green crystal]

Definitely worth the $250 /s

[valid charm]

meanwhile 4o

[dry kestrel]

its not, its slower and they have about the same level of intelligence

[dry kestrel]

now 200

[obsidian umbra]

oh i thought it was 50 b4

[dry kestrel]

so like 28-29 queries a day

[obsidian umbra]

honestly 30 a day aint that bad

[wise nova]

So why pplx set o3 instead o4-mini?

[royal ingot]

pplx just replaced o4 mini with o3. surely o3 might be slightly better?

[obsidian umbra]

just bc pplx did something doesnt mean it was the smartest thing possible 😭

[dry kestrel]

also the same reason to why they added gpt4.5 and removed it like 3 weeks later

[wise nova]

Cost or speed?

[royal ingot]

but there must be some reason behind it? 😅

[obsidian umbra]

4.5 just sucked 😭

[dry kestrel]

o3 is more expensive then o4 mini high

[dry kestrel]

haha yeah

[obsidian umbra]

forgot about the model until earlier td

[obsidian umbra]

2.5 pro back at top on aider as well

[dry kestrel]

nice

[obsidian umbra]

sad how 4.0 opus isnt even top 5

💔

joestandstare

[valid charm]

[gloomy cipher]

@obsidian umbra source for leader board?

[obsidian umbra]

https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

[gloomy cipher]

Oh that's o3 high

Not o3

[gloomy cipher]

Do you know any good leader board for creative writing?

And longform writing as well

[obsidian umbra]

honestly not sure

there is eq bench or something?

but writing is very subjective

🤷‍♂️

https://eqbench.com/creative_writing.html

[gloomy cipher]

Yea i cant get my head around eq bench

The result from eq looks suspicious

[obsidian umbra]

how so

its judged via another model

thinking1

https://eqbench.com/about.html#creative-writing-v3

[gloomy cipher]

Opus 4 being top 2 doesn't sound legitimate

[cobalt vale]

@distant aurora So I paid for another $1 month of ChatGPT Team, not sure if it'll stay up, but send me a ChatGPT account email and I'll invite you

[short narwhal]

Woah mobile has it now too

[gloomy cipher]

Deepseek r1 528 is worse than older versions apparently, gemini 0605 feels like it should be higher @obsidian umbra and opus 4 is for coding. Deepseek v3 may make sense i heard it's good for brainstorm

[obsidian umbra]

blue_shrug

[gloomy cipher]

That's right sorry for ranting on you

[obsidian umbra]

😭

na allg

[obsidian umbra]

The Elo solver shifts all the scores around whenever a new model is added. To counter this, on the leaderboard we anchor the scores such that DeepSeek-R1 has a score of 1500 and ministral-3b has a score of 200. You may see intermediate scores shift around a bit; this is just a quirk of relative rating systems.

r1 maintains a score of 1500

[gloomy cipher]

Iam just lost on which is better and lab is telling me sonnet 3.5 is the best

[haughty birch]

Hi guys, is perplexity doing well as o3 model is present now?

[obsidian umbra]

what

[haughty birch]

can pro subscribers let me know if perplexity is useful after o3 or not

anything improved?

[obsidian umbra]

usefulness is subjective

what was wrong with it before that caused you to not want it?

thinking1

[haughty birch]

i am asking about improvement

[haughty birch]

ok leave it buddy, let some one who understood me answer

[obsidian umbra]

yea, but what improvement

[obsidian umbra]

u ask a broad ass question then refuse to give specifics 😭

[gloomy cipher]

If you like writing yes o3 has a very high writing skill and soon they may increase the output which will also be useful in its own way. But if u are a coder definitely no use

[haughty birch]

you are asking ass follow ups, when somthing new comes up i am asking general question how is the improvement, and you are irritating with some arguements, you just ignore and dont respond to me

[gloomy cipher]

It's also friendly and short great for every day use

[obsidian umbra]

o3 was added

thats it

if u see that as an improvement

thats on u

[gloomy cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[cobalt vale]

it is definitely an improvement imo

[austere bronze]

Anyone know when the next business fellowship is?

[obsidian umbra]

0605 2.5 pro was also added

[shrewd rover]

hi

[obsidian umbra]

id rather have o4m ngl 🫢

[shrewd rover]

can I make vídeos with perplexity pro?

[obsidian umbra]

no

[haughty birch]

hi bro, definetly im not a coder. But i want more message cap limit of O3 and what to use it for conversations and troubleshooting tasks. do you think its good? i just want to stop chatgpt subscription and come to perplexity, do you think i can use perplexiy in place of chatgpt?

[obsidian umbra]

yea

[gloomy cipher]

@haughty birch a great improvement imo i would say is if they add r1 0528 because it's one of the leading model rm and they also added gemini 0605 which has been crushing so far

[obsidian umbra]

as long as context doesnt matter for ur task, pplx is fine

[shrewd rover]

but the pro versión doesn’t include chatgpt pro which can make them?

[obsidian umbra]

blue_shrug

[cobalt vale]

wtf~2

[royal ingot]

nice set of stickers you got there. Lol

[shrewd rover]

@obsidian umbra

[obsidian umbra]

im not sure if it's even accessible through api

[gloomy cipher]

Why do u need gpt in the first place is the question buddy you should know agar you are looking for uf it's for every day use i would say pick the cheaper one

[obsidian umbra]

even if it was, doubt pplx would have it

simply costs way too much

[haughty birch]

chatgpt plus and perplexity, both are 32000 context window, so want to know in reality, which is good, chatgpt plus or perplexity pro,

[haughty birch]

both are same price bro

[royal ingot]

chatGPT context window is higher

[obsidian umbra]

pplx has alot of other limits, why dont you just try out pplx for a month and see if it fits your taskes?

[haughty birch]

but their page says plus gets 32K context

[gloomy cipher]

I think perplexity is more

[royal ingot]

wait lemme check once again

[royal ingot]

yeah sorry, i was mistaken. plus is indeed 32k.

i think i might have saw pro plan
(or a plus plan way back if there was more than 32k context window)

in that case, yeah i would say i find pplx better than chatGPT plus for my use cases

[haughty birch]

plus plan is never more than 32k bro, i can confirm that being a chatgpt user since it is born

[haughty birch]

good bro

i just need more O3 model messages with less cap limits, and i want on top of internal knowledge (like in spaces in perplexity)

in chatgpt plus i get only 200 o3 messages per week, that is the limitation

[royal ingot]

i think you should get 300 every day with pplx pro. But i think it would be a slightly stripped off version of o3

[cobalt vale]

In terms of reasoning effort, pplx is actually higher than ChatGPT

[haughty birch]

not sure, but i dont think perplexity guys wont strip it off, because o3 api price is now cheaper than gpt4o model

[royal ingot]

wait what? damn.
o3 better on pplx than on open ai's own service?

Could you point me to a source where it says so?

[haughty birch]

it is his personal experience bro, he shared

[haughty birch]

see perplexity uses its own mechanism for searches, these models are an extra intelligence on top of perplexities searches. so thats why he meant pplx is more good at reasoning may be

[cobalt vale]

@royal ingot discussion here

Source (note that the source appears to be outdated for ChatGPT app after I did extensive testing): https://github.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/tree/main/OpenAI

o4-mini-high is indeed 512 on ChatGPT, and o4-mini is 32 instead of 64

[haughty birch]

should i try for a month, or go for an year plan as getting discount. that discount tempts me

in perplexity

[obsidian umbra]

def go for a month first

[cobalt vale]

I wonder if the free month for 7 consecutive days on Windows app offer is still active

[lone hound]

The advantage of Perplexity is that it has more models, which openai is not able to update its databases to date...

[haughty birch]

got it, but i need features of chatgpt, many of them are present in perplexity. and i love openai models performance, and now they added my favourite model o3 in perplexity

[haughty birch]

thanks for this matured suggestion bro, it really helps me to get an opinion after using for 30 days. thanks for saving me for paying for an year, that offer is really tempting me.

[obsidian umbra]

doubt

[cobalt vale]

I... got it...

[shell pewter]

congrats baked potato

i love u

[cobalt vale]

tiny_potato

[cobalt vale]

@timber niche

[short sluice]

Was tryna show my drawing to chat gpt

It’s looking

[versed wren]

LOL

can someone help me out in #⚡│ask-community

[dry kestrel]

welcome to pro lol

@left stream would be wary of you.com these couple days, they recently changed their pricing page and moved the original "unlimited" for teams to 2x of Pro

not liking the changes that they have done recently

[cobalt vale]

"Limited" (Poverty Edition) 😭

[dry kestrel]

ah lmao

wonder what the limits are for team

[cobalt vale]

That's certainly one of the responses of all time

[dry kestrel]

the thinking time has been halved compared to o1 pro

[dry kestrel]

lol

imagine if they made it monthly

[cobalt vale]

I expect 10/month like Deep Research 😭

MiniMax has also gone 🤮

[dry kestrel]

bruh

tbh not really surprised

[obsidian umbra]

jesus 😭

[cobalt vale]

not sure what "tasks" means exactly, but it sounds every bit as overpriced as Manus

and I doubt it's as good as Manus

[obsidian umbra]

atleast manus has really cool features

[dry kestrel]

mhm also flowith

[cobalt vale]

I could not get used to flowith's UI

[dry kestrel]

yeah also it uses a shit ton of credits

for the simplest thing

btw have you been experiencing any hangs on o3 pro?

[cobalt vale]

seems like a flaw with all of these "agents"

[cobalt vale]

no, but I'm only on my second query

[dry kestrel]

ah, been trying to see if theres a limit

used like 25 prompts so far

[obsidian umbra]

are u on a pro account?

or team

[green crystal]

meanwhile plus users with their cheaper than gemini 2.5 pro model only getting 200 per week

[dry kestrel]

pro

[cobalt vale]

doge_bruh

[dry kestrel]

i hate how they stopped showing the amount of DR left on chatgpt

[cobalt vale]

I got new UI again

[dry kestrel]

oh shit what

im still on the old one

[green crystal]

pplx ui changing is infectious

[cobalt vale]

I wouldn't mind if ChatGPT didn't substantially regress all the time

pepe_cry~1

[dry kestrel]

@cobalt vale this has been disappointing

[cobalt vale]

pepe_wtf

[green crystal]

time to fire all the devs bois
ai gonna takeover

woops forgot /s

[green crystal]

everything is going backwards

we need another deepseek

[dry kestrel]

haha

[wanton sluice]

with the right prompts
yeah

if an engineer tells AI use this library integrate this here like that etc..

it will do a senior dev's job

[green crystal]

its not there yet

it does work well as an assistant though

[patent cargo]

Will o3 be added now as unlimited model as price is now even lower than 4o?

[cobalt vale]

o3 is the same limit as everything else

[dry kestrel]

nothing is unlimited

and because its a reasoning model, you cant just compare pricing to 4o

[wanton sluice]

its in

i used it

but not unlimited

[cobalt vale]

99% of users will never hit the limit though

[wanton sluice]

indeed

why i love pplx

support team sucks tho

[valid charm]

I'm the 1%

https://tenor.com/view/gang-signs-gif-23644682

[cobalt vale]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-reaction-meme-stan-twitter-funny-stressed-gif-7713976294327515532

[dry kestrel]

this has been so goddamn annoying

[tired light]

Hi guys, I'm having trouble logging in on the browser using my apple login

[languid star]

how gud is o3 compare to sonnet 4 thinking ?

[twin grail]

Wdym

[twin grail]

Not sure but chatgpt recently being way more hallucinating than it used to be

With o3 model being around 30% hallucination during a long answer and reasoning

And roughly 50% if i remember it correctly for short q&a

The worst for o4 model being 70% for short q&a

[valid charm]

Seem like o3 beats sonnet but Claude beats o3 in coding and math

[twin grail]

40% for long and reasoning answer

Although OpenAI said that o4 was designed to respond faster but still we should double check before use any information of it

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/05/technology/ai-hallucinations-chatgpt-google.html

So better use claude bois

[obsidian umbra]

even on my heaviest days i dont think i even used 300 messages

[distant aurora]

I have

350 questions.

[obsidian umbra]

were u messing around

or something actually important

[distant aurora]

70 per subject.

Exams.

[obsidian umbra]

ah

[timber niche]

Team sub?

[obsidian umbra]

yea

[timber niche]

Still not out for me

Guess it's slow rollout

[dry kestrel]

yeah but you wouldn't input the questions one by one

for things like that you gotta do it in batches

[distant aurora]

I had to cuz online exam had one on a page.

[echo juniper]

I’m 20 and making consistent sales through my dropshipping store!
Super grateful for how far I’ve come — it’s been a lot of learning, testing, and late nights, but it’s paying off. 🔥

I’m always happy to share tips or answer questions if you’re just getting started or thinking about launching your own store.

💬 Feel free to reach out — I’m here to help!

[distant aurora]

70 pages total.

[obsidian umbra]

admitting to cheating is lovely

😭

[distant aurora]

What's lovelier is that there were questions with answers absent in study material.

At that point, I gave up.

After studying a subject, I figured that it won't help.

[dry kestrel]

ah..

[cobalt vale]

@distant aurora he awake?

[distant aurora]

I don't want it.

[cobalt vale]

yes, not all of them though. rollout

[cobalt vale]

you can make a new account, and only you can see your messages

[timber niche]

Lol

Guess bro just is happy with you.com

[cobalt vale]

meanwhile you.com is not happy with bro

[timber niche]

As expected

[distant aurora]

Somehow I was charged extra money when I selected card as default payment method when I selected verify organisation option but no credit was added to my account.

So I'm 10 dollars down now.

No thank you.

I'm keeping my distance from open ai playground.

[cobalt vale]

jerry

[timber niche]

Contact support

[timber niche]

This you're free from being charged bro

Just enjoy it

Lol

[distant aurora]

Fuck you bro. You and your lols.

[obsidian umbra]

anyone got good sys prompts for discord chatbot

[cobalt vale]

ChatGPT Team is entirely separate from the playground... you could make a burner account without payment info

[timber niche]

Lmao salt

Just be rational and contact support

[distant aurora]

Yes. Salt. that was worth a month's electricity bill.

[cobalt vale]

oof

[timber niche]

Anyway good luck gotta go back to the mines

[distant aurora]

I'm trying to cope with it while people have been making fun since last night.

[timber niche]

I didn't make fun

[obsidian umbra]

Minionstare

[timber niche]

I think they fked you over

And you should get compensated

[distant aurora]

I removed my card.

[timber niche]

Last time i raised this concern others told that's not how API works

Just ask them what happened and why it was this way

[distant aurora]

I'm not adding it back to risk making it minus 15 dollars.

[timber niche]

Pretty sure they can refund you

Don't have to add it back

Can just have support refund to the bank with details later

[cobalt vale]

if the extra $5 wasn't even credited, they will 100% refund you

[distant aurora]

That bottom one. It wasn't added.

And I didn't even select any recharge option.

[timber niche]

Maybe your bank double charged you

Check with both openai and your bank

[distant aurora]

Can't be double charge.

5hr gap between both the activities.

[cobalt vale]

different amounts?

[distant aurora]

Yeah

It ain't even showing in billing so wtf was I even charged for.

Playground is a scam. Gonna tell people to stay away from it.

[twin grail]

What happened

[distant aurora]

Unusable crap to hog 5 dollars.

[twin grail]

Why did u got charge for the extra 5 bucks

[distant aurora]

No idea.

I just hate myself for everything that's been happening since last night.

Could have put that money in open router instead.

Or saved it for later.

[cobalt vale]

you are going to resolve it right?

[distant aurora]

Bank portal isn't working.

[twin grail]

Hmmm

Strange

[timber niche]

You'll get refunded don't worry too much

You got this

[distant aurora]

The fraud and dispute section says contact administrator. So it's not functional for now.

[twin grail]

Can u press view

[distant aurora]

That's from 5 hours back but sure.

[twin grail]

This

[cobalt vale]

yep they literally can't charge you without your permission and without crediting it

[twin grail]

Ohhh

It’s the Api

U used it ??

[distant aurora]

I just sent a hi

[twin grail]

Or someone in ur team did

[distant aurora]

Last night.

[twin grail]

Did u invite someone else ?

[distant aurora]

No team. Only me.

Also, no credit balance was deducted so it doesn't make sense.

[dry kestrel]

you might want to ask people in the openai server

who might know more

[twin grail]

Ye

First time seeing this

I’m still fine using the plus team sub

[timber niche]

Do you have access to o3pro btw

[twin grail]

What’s that

New model??

[timber niche]

New model

Yup

[dry kestrel]

@distant aurora use the support on help.openai.com and make sure to specify that you want an actual person or else its just going to be AI

[twin grail]

Pro user only

Sad

[obsidian umbra]

its not

[timber niche]

Teams also

[obsidian umbra]

team users get limited amount

[timber niche]

They tweeted

So check under your models

[twin grail]

Mine plus

[cobalt vale]

Pro and Teams, Enterprise and Edu coming shortly

[timber niche]

You have teams sub

[obsidian umbra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047649527299055688/1382162420956659874/image.png?ex=684a2690&is=6848d510&hm=daa627847512cfde1907dab3fb07ee668cf2cedfbdbb38d83b55d33c1f2f8fee&=&width=880&height=141

[twin grail]

Yes

[timber niche]

Here

Check under your models

[twin grail]

Mine is team plus

Is that count

[obsidian umbra]

should?

[timber niche]

There is no different teams subs

Just one

[twin grail]

Sadly no

[timber niche]

Potat had same as you and got it

[cobalt vale]

There is no Team plus, it's just Team

[dry kestrel]

its still rolling out

[timber niche]

You'll get it shortly

[obsidian umbra]

just wait a bit then i guess

[dry kestrel]

you might need to wait

[timber niche]

Yeah same

[twin grail]

I see

[dry kestrel]

also the amount of hangs ive been getting with o3 pro is insane

[twin grail]

Can u give some reviews

[obsidian umbra]

on...?

[twin grail]

o3 pro

[obsidian umbra]

its just o3 with more money and compute thrown at it

blue_shrug

[twin grail]

[obsidian umbra]

nothing super crazy from what i've seen

[cobalt vale]

doge_gun doge_laser jerry doge_bruh

[obsidian umbra]

o3 being 80% cheaper was the major change

[cobalt vale]

yes, all three

[twin grail]

Noice

[obsidian umbra]

16!!!!

[obsidian umbra]

i think

im not countin again

[dry kestrel]

first one is deepseek r1

second is o3pro

[dry kestrel]

i ran 6 queries in a row

and all of them failed

[cobalt vale]

must be perfect cube, not just fill in the blanks

[distant aurora]

Do o4 mini

[obsidian umbra]

uh

66

[distant aurora]

Nice

[dry kestrel]

i ran the same prompt with all openai models

[distant aurora]

O4 mini > r1

[dry kestrel]

and claude

[distant aurora]

Can you do grok?

[dry kestrel]

and gemini

and grok

[obsidian umbra]

not surprising

🗿

looks like it got stuck up in the controls

[dry kestrel]

grok thinking on grok.com

[distant aurora]

Gemini failed I think.

[obsidian umbra]

and just failed to make the actual "game"

[distant aurora]

Sweet.

[dry kestrel]

grok3 mini on t3

[distant aurora]

Lmfao

[obsidian umbra]

what ide is that

thinking1

cursor?

[dry kestrel]

2.5 pro on gemini

[dry kestrel]

yeaha

just the one i had opened at the time

[twin grail]

Gemini seems to be better

[distant aurora]

Damn. So it does well with code with sucks with simple questions?

[cobalt vale]

dented

[twin grail]

Than grok and o4 r1

[obsidian umbra]

more realistic imo

balls too bouncy in o3p

[dry kestrel]

its been a hit and miss for me

[twin grail]

Cusor actually good

[distant aurora]

I was talking about Gemini.

[twin grail]

Oh mb

[dry kestrel]

4.1

[twin grail]

Try 4.5

[obsidian umbra]

just a copy pasted vsc 🤭 but i wont go there

[dry kestrel]

yeah lol

just a fork

[obsidian umbra]

that green fucker

!!!!!

[dry kestrel]

haha

[obsidian umbra]

is that new google gen

[obsidian umbra]

surprisingly well ngl

[languid star]

flux dev

[obsidian umbra]

too bad the model still sucks 🥀

[dry kestrel]

the balls eventually escaped

[obsidian umbra]

ah

what gpu?

[languid star]

online

[obsidian umbra]

nice

[cobalt vale]

is kontext dev out?

[languid star]

never heard kontext dev

[obsidian umbra]

its not

[cobalt vale]

Kontext is the new Flux series that outperforms GPT Image

[dry kestrel]

oh shit fr

[obsidian umbra]

ya

but everything ive seen about it has looked picked out

[dry kestrel]

opensource or nah

ill test it out when i get the chance

[obsidian umbra]

should be?