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#other-games
vague galleon
tranquil cove
minecraft is low tier graphics
vague galleon
its 3d
tepid wadi
You keep adding rules
tranquil cove
6 sided cubes
vague galleon
terraria
tranquil cove
yeah because i wasnt specific enough to what i had in mind
vague galleon
starcraft has buildings you can destroy
tepid wadi
Well what you had in mind isn't even close to what we were talking about, so 🤷♀️
tranquil cove
the technology doesnt exist thats why
vague galleon
have you heard of a game called Enshrouded?
tepid wadi
Okay, sure
sweet patrol
So you want a fully 3D high detail game like say enshrouded where everything you see can be destroyed
tranquil cove
yeah but also planet sized map
vague galleon
no mans sky
tranquil cove
you're thinking destruction as healthbars endalrin
sweet patrol
So combine Light no fire with the building and terraforming mechanic of enshrouded
tranquil cove
im thinking small breakable parts for everything
doesn't exist
you can name 1000 games if you're going healthbar destruction
maybe that was the misunderstanding
where a structure is there, you shoot it to zero health, and then it disappears is not what i meant.
rofl
tranquil cove
i mean debris is left behind and it follows laws of physics
vague galleon
Starforge
tranquil cove
games like rust dont count
games where players build the environment themselves
are basing games
sweet patrol
i mean debris is left behind and it follows laws of physics
You are wanting a fully realized form of damage that follows actualy logic not game logic.IE. you hit it with a hammer or pick and it is damaged in the way a real wall would be
tranquil cove
You are wanting a fully realized form of damage that follows actualy logic not g...
yeah it doesn't exist, thats what i was saying
you can't have that in a game, a game is meant to have organization and rules, it can't be entropy.
vague galleon
then be the change i. the world you want
sweet patrol
Yes true entropic destruction cannot be fully realized as of yet
some games try and have nice systems for it, Red faction had a nice way with it you hit a wall with a hammer and there is a hole WHERE you hit and even some debris
tranquil cove
okay but he said starforge
like hes throwing out random names
im watching a gameplay video of starforge
sweet patrol
Never played it no idea
tranquil cove
can i shoot a missle at that mountain and the mountain will break off and fall to the ground?
NO? THEN NOT STARFORGE
stop giving bad examples
i mean you can dig in starforge
but when you dig and look up
lol and this was the example of a full destructable game 🙁
nah man nah
sweet patrol
No they are correct. Its not what you were wanting or talking about but in terms of what has actually been realized that is what we have.
tranquil cove
this is closer
but a bridge falling on people should probably kill them and crush the cars
sweet patrol
I do understand what you are looking for though its just not here yet gonna be a loooong time
tranquil cove
so it's like everything destroys and becomes paper system?
it's not a true physics system
sweet patrol
Its as close as games have gotten so far
The sheer computing system needed for what you are wanting would be astronomical if it even is able to be made at this point in time
tranquil cove
exactly
well thats what i meant initially
i was just bad at explaining it
i wasn't adding rules, just bad explainer
timber prism
You keep adding rules
If moving the goal post was a person XD
tranquil cove
i didnt move any goal post
literally what i had in mind when i started is what i have in mind now
tepid wadi
To us it looks like moving goal posts because WE don't know what you have in mind.
tranquil cove
well now you know
sweet patrol
Trust me I get that I misrepresent what I am actually trying to say ALL the time
tranquil cove
if i wrote 'theres no destruction in games at all' it would have made sense to list all the nonsense you guys were listing
i dont get why you couldn't follow me
but i never moved goal posts
timber prism
Lmao
tranquil cove
games have destruction, they dont have the type and level of physics destruction at the scale i want, with debris that can kill people, and also become part of the world environment.
because the game is fake
its a fake environment
its not a true simulator
sweet patrol
I mean to be fair from the outside looking in having followed this since it began(yes I was creeping) I see where the disconnect was on BOTH sides
tranquil cove
i didnt use the words physics
that was the problem
once you say physics, its 10,000 calculations a second for every face of an object
and its not possible in gaming
sweet patrol
A Planet scale simulation game with full real world physics related to all aspects of it.
tranquil cove
well thats what i meant by everything truly destructable, in multiple ways, destroyed differently when you shoot it, compared to running it over with a car etc. leaving rubble behind, and rubble being able to kill people and become part of the environment. potentially to further be broken down too.
so real life 😄
maybe a game could achieve this for 1 house in a small map or something?
tepid wadi
My take is a bit more "realistic" as far as development costs go. I only really care about physics that matter to the player.
-Like building and prop destruction? Awesome. Terrain destruction? Not as necessary
-Debris falling and damaging players/enemies? Rad. It leaving physical accurate piles on the ground? Not really necessary. (though it could turn into a generic "debris" prop, which could be destroyed, etc)
tranquil cove
i dunno about larger scales
timber prism
This is why I said it was moving the goal post. There is no way we could know this is what you meant and they gave valid responses to what you initially said
tranquil cove
im not doing anything intentionally its the nature of chatting on a crappy text program
accept that as the answer
rather than assuming the worst
the chat flies by too fast with responses from multiple people before i can make myself clear
and nobody really asking what i meant either, just saying nah that exists already
sweet patrol
It happens not worth looking abck at this point since we now know what exactly you were meaning
timber prism
Yeah. What you want is not a thing XD
I think its way too unrealistic on a scale you want as well
tranquil cove
its simulation, and most games stay away from true simulation due to all the calculations.
we dont have truly simulated water either i think?
it's magic trick, a bit of sim maybe
timber prism
and nobody really asking what i meant either, just saying nah that exists alread...
This can be hard with vague statements so I can see why they responded the way they did because what you asked for in that first statement exists
tranquil cove
yeah but i wrote it's not technically possible yet, and nobody assumed i knew what was technically possible, and questioned why i said that? i must mean physics/simulation destruction.
timber prism
Yeah. Most stay away because the demographic of those who need that much realism in calculations if very small
tranquil cove
i admit i wasn't specific enough
timber prism
They do exist for some stuff like Kerbal
But realistic destruction is overkill to most
IMO
tranquil cove
there's player movement physics in exanima too, but im not sure how it's done, like if it's real 100% or still gamey a bit.
rose imp
Has anyone played Everdell board game?
tepid wadi
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
rose imp
I just got it, Im confused though. the box came with two decks and doesnt mention it as two decks at all. Is it meant to be combined? lol
tepid wadi
Uhh, I don't remember specifically, sorry. It's been a while. Check and see if the deck/rules mentions "automata" or something. Some games will come with a deck of cards that are used in a single player game to simulate other players or add challenge.
rose imp
No mention of that. but It does say 128 critters and buildings
so Im assuming its meant to be combined
latent yarrow
tepid wadi
Man, so disappointed by the Horizon MMO being mobile-first
misty arch
they are finally trying to fix their mistake of having a subscription but its probably to little to late
https://massivelyop.com/2025/11/18/ship-of-heroes-is-finally-dropping-its-box-fee-30-and-nixing-its-ongoing-subscription-fee/
tepid wadi
I still can't imagine the madness that possessed them to try a $60 box AND a subscription for that game.
misty arch
right! think they forgot what year it was.
tepid wadi
For the right MMO, I could see it, but Ship of Heroes didn't meet that quality bar, heh.
timber prism
I dunno. Where Winds Meet is F2P
With just cosmetics
$60 + sub is a tough sell
Even Aion 2 I think is f2p or at least Taiwan servers are
tepid wadi
Yeah, we've talked about price structures before. If a game has a Price + Sub, the price should include at least a month or two of sub.
timber prism
Only problem is servers are full atm I think still XD
misty arch
people can still surprise you at times
https://www.ign.com/articles/megabonk-developer-withdraws-game-from-the-game-awards-saying-it-doesnt-qualify-for-debut-indie
tepid wadi
Integrity? In MY industry?
reef bobcat
EARLY ACCESS TODAY --- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2350790/Moonlighter_2_The_Endless_Vault/
stray coral
rustic arrow
ornate fractal
https://youtu.be/k4d69Y3CnJw?si=uZeEoGQmXxiiIiXA
Ah I enjoyed the LGR vid about this.
misty arch
Aion 2 came out, bet most of us didnt know that since it was an Asian market release only right now. But... it did not go well.
https://massivelyop.com/2025/11/19/aion-2s-chaotic-and-overmonetized-korean-release-causes-ncsoft-stock-to-dip-and-devs-to-apologize/
tepid wadi
Uhhh, a 15% stock drop for NCsoft is REALLY bad
If Korean players are rebelling against the P2W, it's gotta be REAL extreme
But also...
undone cliff
Aion 2 came out, bet most of us didnt know that since it was an Asian market rel...
I just read that article and another from a korean news outlet
misty arch
misty arch
Hytale is going to allow mods
https://massivelyop.com/2025/11/21/hytale-devs-invite-player-builders-to-join-and-shape-what-hytale-modding-becomes/
frank sonnet
misty arch
Black Friday is here. Started this Friday instead of next week
tepid wadi
I accepted Black Friday. I accepted Cyber Monday. But a week-long Black Friday sale? That's a bridge too far.
misty arch
pubg devs coming out with a arc raiders sounding game.
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/the-pubg-extraction-shooter-spinoff-springs-back-to-life-with-a-closed-alpha-test-set-for-december-and-its-focus-on-exploration-over-pure-combat-sounds-a-lot-like-my-favorite-part-of-arc-raiders/
vague galleon
hytale isnt on steam?
misty arch
hytale isnt on steam?
it was removed when the all th4e company trouble started.
misty arch
the game got canceld by the parent company
but now the original devs bought therights back
and this all happened last week so guessing it will take a little time to get everything back to normal
vague galleon
@_@
misty arch
and the cancelation was like a day or 2 before the game was supposed to release originally.
misty arch
I accepted Black Friday. I accepted Cyber Monday. But a week-long Black Friday s...
im all for it to be honest. spreading it out like this makes it easier for both employees and customers. we dont have to fight over each other in one day.
misty arch
turbid trout
LIGHT NO FIRE... Who's ready?
for anything more than what we've already had for 2 years now...
tepid wadi
Been keeping an eye on all the NMS updates they've done, thinking about how they'll be applicable in LNF. Pretty exciting stuff.
lusty veldt
timber prism
and this all happened last week so guessing it will take a little time to get ev...
signs do not look good
misty arch
well they did have it ready enough to release originally until the head company pulled the plug. Will just have to wait and see how it is.
tepid wadi
Hey, if you've got 300k laying around and want to invest in something... 😝
tranquil cove
but they have something, lol
tepid wadi
I'm always willing to give indie devs a LOT more grace than AAA companies as far as jank and incompleteness, and I feel like that's a fairly common opinion amongst gamers.
tranquil cove
19.99 is still priced in bracket that says the game can be worth something if its developed well. cause they could have went as low as 7.99
timber prism
I dont know. If you publicly admit a game is not good. Dont release it just to make money
timber prism
No. EA doesn't necessarily mean a game is not good
tranquil cove
it technically does
timber prism
Hades 2 released EA and was good right from the start
tranquil cove
unless you think incomplete games are good?
timber prism
Yes
tranquil cove
like having 20% of a game is good?
timber prism
They can be
timber prism
Like not vaporware
Apparently not if the devs say it isnt
Its not in a good place
tranquil cove
the dev already said it's good in potential when he took on personal risk to buy it
vague galleon
thats what every EA title is
so you think Enshrouded is not good?
timber prism
Path of exile is another good example
tranquil cove
i think an EA title can be good as is, but you also usually know 80% more is coming, so it's still basically good in potential.
since you know the other 80% will make it better, it hasnt reach it's fully 'good' quality.
just some EA titles have more there to work with than others
hytale is probably good and he's keeping expecations low, i bet it has a lot of bugs.
timber prism
How i read the devs statement is that it is currently not good
tepid wadi
Yeha I mean Enshrouded was good right from the get go
timber prism
It was
tranquil cove
best way to know is to play a demo
timber prism
Its objectively a good EA release
tranquil cove
if they release a hytale demo
timber prism
Im just stating that a dev publicly saying their game is not good
Is not a good look
And stating they are gonna do their best to make it good is just weird
tranquil cove
well he said "i dont think the game is good yet" and is using words like 'unfinished' so it has more to do with potential and incompleteness than what's already there being bad.
he didn't say what's already here sucks, and we're redoing it all
tranquil cove
not if you read the actual words he used and not in between the lines?
tranquil cove
if the game is anything like the trailer it's good, he just has high standards or its buggy as hell.
imo
he wants to keep expectations low
so there is no blow back, easier to impress on low expectations
it might just feel shallow as a game or something, no content - doesn't necessarily mean not good.
it means they didnt have 10 years to add 10 years of content
like other games
tranquil cove
20 hours of enshrouded content could not be enough for some people
timber prism
I never thought Enshrouded was shallow when it released
timber prism
They added a lot sure
vague galleon
even on release it had more than 20 hours of content.
timber prism
But the initial experience was not "this game is shallow"
tranquil cove
even on release it had more than 20 hours of content.
not likely, i have 3 playthroughs
and missed the last 2 major updates
at 150 hours
150/3
vague galleon
okay? and you never post in any of the normal channels.
tranquil cove
thats 50 hours
timber prism
Lmao
vague galleon
meanwhile, those of us who have actually played the game know there's hundreds of hours of content.
timber prism
Im just gonna say I dont think i met many people who played Enshrouded day 1 and felt it was shallow
vague galleon
i havent seen you in there in the past year.
timber prism
Valourant is the first
tranquil cove
i dont need to be there, i dont play the game currently
im waiting for 1.0 release
tranquil cove
i got 10k posts in games, 5k in tavern 3.3k in movies, 2.7k in troubleshooting, 2.7k in getting started, 2.9k in enshrouded chat 😅 (i'm all over the discord tbh, 1.3k in off topic) etc.
weird cause i thought i talk in movies more than here
vague galleon
much chat. very wow.
timber prism
much chat. very wow.
👑
vague galleon
lol
timber prism
😂
vague galleon
this metal garden game is anxiety enducing.
tranquil cove
much chat. very wow.
yeah you're a tavern guy, makes sense as helper too
ill probably chat in there more when i start a fresh game with my friends at 1.0
tepid wadi
yeah, real disappointing
tranquil cove
whats disappointing
tepid wadi
Like 5 potentially interesting MMO projects got shut down in the span of a month
Some we knew stuff about, others we don't
tranquil cove
any reason why
i dont have high hopes for any mmos being good, they keep doing the same model anyway
tepid wadi
$$$$ mostly. Netease cancelled their MMO teams, Microsoft cancelled their MMO teams, etc
The estimated ROI for a MMO isn't as high as non-MMO live service games, because they're so much harder and bigger to develop.
tranquil cove
coop is the best game to make
tepid wadi
MMOs are fundamentally at odds with publicly-traded companies, because they have to get the biggest ROI possible
tranquil cove
i dont have that restriction on the definition
any game where i cooperate with another player is more or a less a coop to me, if im fighting other players, instead of mobs doesn't really factor into my definition, i will just ADD pvp on top of coop
if the game has a player cap then its a coop of 24 players
no player cap? then it's basically an MMO
most commonly understood coop are 2-8 player though
tepid wadi
Okay, you apparently define PvP and co-op differently than everyone else, so try to take that into account.
tranquil cove
i dont think so
vague galleon
i think so
tranquil cove
A cooperative video game, often abbreviated as co-op video game, is a video game that allows players to work together as teammates, usually against one or more non-player character opponents.
it says usually against
not always against
i define it fine
tepid wadi
Please find me any article or anyone else describing BF6 as a co-op game and I'll believe you.
tranquil cove
you think coop and pvp are mutually exclusive
vague galleon
PVP is any time your opponent is another player and not NPCs, doesnt matter if you have team mates or not.
tranquil cove
Yes, a coop game can involve players teaming up against other players, known as player-versus-player (PvP) scenarios.
tepid wadi
I'm not going to argue with AI responses about this. BF6 is a PVP game. Maybe a PvP game where there is co-op in it, but it is a PvP game not a co-op game.
tranquil cove
lets bring it more on a level you can understand
fall guys is probably a good example of coop pvp
tranquil cove
I'm not going to argue with AI responses about this. BF6 is a PVP game. Maybe a ...
it's both equally, i wasnt saying it doesn't have pvp
im just saying it's a game with coop in it
vague galleon
lets bring it more on a level you can understand
alright bro, you can lay off with being rude, especially when no one agrees with you.
tepid wadi
No, it's not both equally. You said it's "basically a co-op game". It comes down to the actual intent and goal of the game. The goal of BF6 is to win against the other players by killing them
tranquil cove
it depends on how you want to define the game, or your perspective, if pvp is your thing, youll be like it's a pvp game. if coop is your thing, you'll focus more on that coop aspects. in coop games you're fighting enemies too, they just often aren't real players.
tepid wadi
Fall guys is actually a good counterexample, because I'd argue that it IS a co-op game with PvP. The goal is to get to the end fastest, however you can. There are PvP elements in the grabbing and stuff, but you don't have to do those to win.
tranquil cove
yes but fall guys basically has pvp in it
just without overt killing/shooting people
but you could say fall guys is a coop pvp as well
tranquil cove
Fall guys is actually a good counterexample, because I'd argue that it IS a co-o...
still i dont think im breaking definitions by saying bf6 is a coop game with pvp
i originally just didn't add the pvp part because thats obvious
or if you want you can say bf6 is a pvp game with coop
tbh i never played bf6
i dont own it
but i played counterstrike, and what i look forward to when i played it was the cooperative aspects, i dont go on to kill other players.
BF6 takes all of that further
driving vehicles, supporting team mates, resurrecting players etc.
you could probably play whole round just supporting your team in different ways and not killing anyone.
fall guys is apparently considered a pvp game
and i mean BF6 is too
but i wasn't defining the genre when i said 'basically a coop game', i was highlighting how the game feels to me.
the coop elements are there
if you ignore the enemy aspect, then it's basically a coop game
24 players on a team fighting an opponent
misty arch
funny enough battlefield used to have actual co-op in it for the campaign. Which made it alot of fun to play with friends but they have converted it to single player now.
timber prism
> Yes, a coop game can involve players teaming up against other players, known a...
Co-op is short for cooperative and refers a multiplayer game where you play together with other players to complete a common goal against a non-player enemy.
tranquil cove
yeah but when someone uses the
sigh here
as i dont have energy for this
y'all gotta not take things literally
timber prism
its just more of the lines of you defining the use of a word against the norm
tranquil cove
i wrote the word basically for a reason is what im getting at
and everyone chose to overlook that part
and also the definition i looked up for coop game says "usually" computer enemies. but yeah i agree BF6 is a pvp game under actual game labelling.
which makes fall guys a pvp game too
timber prism
yeah, it is a pvp game
you play against another player to be a winner.. either in teams or solo
tranquil cove
yeah
timber prism
just like you woudln't say football or soccer is a coop game
tranquil cove
i mean you dont call an MMO a pvp game, or a coop game, it shares both.
people decided to give it it's own label - the MMO label
timber prism
surely you distinguish a mmo between being pvp and pve centric
tranquil cove
most mmos are 50/50 on that
i wonder if a sub genre/label would ever apply
for PVP team games
probably just 'PVP team game'
Games like Overwatch (with its team-based combat) or Paladins might be closer to the idea of “cooperative PvP.” While the goal is PvP, cooperation between players (healers, tank roles, etc.) is absolutely critical to success. Still, they're labeled PvP games, even though teamwork is a strong element.
cooperative pvp, would still make sense, since co-op is computer enemies, but cooperation is a thing any game can have.
timber prism
most mmos are 50/50 on that
There are definitely mmo's that offer both but please share some that are 50/50 split. Most MMO's are PVEcentric
tranquil cove
if an MMO has mobs in it it's pretty much a 50/50 split
tranquil cove
you can play plenty of MMOs without ever engaging in PVP
you're defining pvp centric based on what the players logon to do?
i am doing it based on what the game mechanics are
tranquil cove
only a few MMOS are advertised with pvp as the central focus
timber prism
so any form of having pvp and pve to you means its 50/50
tranquil cove
like probably archeage was
timber prism
i was just curious
tranquil cove
and some MMOS based off Ultima online
but even ultima was 50/50
it was a sandbox
tranquil cove
ultima especially because you could just recall away if you were attacked
an MMO would need pvp to happen everywhere, except towns, and once pvp starts you can't escape, except for running? to be pvp centric?
tepid wadi
Archeage was one of the ones that had a huge variety of things to do. PvP, PvE Dungeons, Farming, Questing, Exploration, house decorating, music, gathering, etc etc etc
The reason it died right on release was huge P2W stuff they introduced that basically killed all non-paying forms of progression
tranquil cove
could you cast a 2 second spell to escape someone attacking you?
and was pvp everywhere? no turning it on?
timber prism
depended on the zone
tranquil cove
no toggle for pvp?
timber prism
there were safe zone starting areas
tepid wadi
No, but world PvP was centered around a system where the only thing lootable off of you was a "trade pack", so there wasn't much point to PvPing if someone wasn't carrying a trade pack
misty arch
towns are usually safe zones in mmo style games
tepid wadi
And yeah, there were safe nopvp zones
tepid wadi
There MIGHT have been durability loss when you died, but it was inconsequential
timber prism
you had certain zones that could be flipped into war and peace times
tepid wadi
They had a big ocean where you could PvP with anyone (even your own faction)
timber prism
and then straight up hostile zones
misty arch
except in hardcore pvp, where you drop everything on death, those games/servers its free for all all the time
tranquil cove
but archeage was designed with taking over castles and shit?
misty arch
yes
timber prism
and it was 2 faction but you could also flag yourself to kill your own faction
misty arch
guild clashes
tepid wadi
Sort of. You didn't HAVE to do that
timber prism
it was just an option
tepid wadi
You didn't need to engage with the PvP zones at all
misty arch
was to get guilds involved in pvp
tepid wadi
If all you wanted to do was dungeons and crafting, you could totally do that
timber prism
i honestly think it was pvp centric
tepid wadi
It was a "real" MMO with a large variety of play cycles
timber prism
but like i said... i dont think many if any are actually 50/50
so i was curiuos on how you think that are a lot of them like that so i asked your definition of it
tranquil cove
imo,
a) if anywhere outside a town, you can be attacked by any player.
b) the only escape is winning the battle or running away/losing LOS.
then it's likely a pvp centric MMO.
ultima wasn't because you could escape with a 2 second cast recall spell
and basically were never forced to die or engage in pvp
and it was extremely hard to disrupt that spell
timber prism
i say its pvp centric because there was land ownership based on pvp
as well as other pvp features that pretty much focused on benefits for open world and encouraged pvp
tranquil cove
yeah it was a game that went further with pvp mechanics
and that was part of the big draw
my friend was saying ultima is a jousting game
tepid wadi
That reminds me of the: Dark Souls is a rhythm game and you don't know it
misty arch
That reminds me of the: Dark Souls is a rhythm game and you don't know it
lies, everyone knows every game is just a copy of Pong but with better graphics
vague galleon
https://youtu.be/ZzWSrgQ3eMI?si=Awija_S0Kcy93nJ7
IS IT FINALLY HAPPENING?!
misty arch
ah the full robot form, very nice
tepid wadi
I watched some gameplay of a previous playtest, it looks pretty decent
Sort of Satisfactory with a twist
tranquil cove
it is ironic that people are building games, to be played with friends, when games/internet, are probably a big contributor to people not having as many real life friends. in coop game friends is very loose term.
basically anyone you can find in an LFG channel
oh yeah i remeber why i didn't like satisfactory #other-games message
i mean good game, but if i'm going to spend 90% of the time building, that part can't be frustrating otherwise no matter how good the game is, i probably wont play it.
misty arch
Sort of Satisfactory with a twist
that is my thinking on it as well and I loved Satisfactory
frank sonnet
it is ironic that people are building games, to be played with friends, when gam...
no its the parents that force kids to be homebody's
timber prism
it is ironic that people are building games, to be played with friends, when gam...
What is ironic about that? Internet has connected people worldwide. Are they not friends because you cant touch them?
tepid wadi
Some of my best friends I've met through or because of video games, a couple of them I never met in person until I was at their wedding
tranquil cove
In my experience, you may not really know a person who is an internet friend. the contact is superficial and it's more based on a mutual shared interest in a game/community, where essentially you are using each other to pass the time or for entertainment. this is not what a real friendship is. most people wouldn't want to meet their internet friends in real life, and if you would, it doesn't mean the feeling is mutual.
you might meet some people in an LFG, play a game through, and then even if you still hang out with that friend group, they have different interests and different games, so you essentially never play a game together again because you're not buying the games they are buying.
people just assume 'anyone i like or who likes me' is a friend, but i dunno, friendship for a lot of people requires no work, and you don't really do anything except play some games together.
other than knowing someone is a human, an AI would offer the same relationship. someone who exists in a box, somewhere 3000 miles away. 😅
thats why we got some humans interacting with AI as friends now
timber prism
Some of my best friends I've met through or because of video games, a couple of ...
Same. I have quite a few online friends I met from various interests around the world. They are def still friends I confide in and we travel to hang out
tranquil cove
once you meet someone, the relationship becomes more real imo
timber prism
thats why we got some humans interacting with AI as friends now
People who do this have mental ill ness because AI just agrees with you
tranquil cove
like it can be real already, but becomes more real
ive known some people online for 10+ years, we're friendly, but i wouldn't really say they are close friends still.
timber prism
Some of my best friends I've met through or because of video games, a couple of ...
My festival fam is like this. There are some i met at weddings and through mutual friends that party together. I was talking to this girl for like 2 years before we actually met and traveled to a different country to meet at a festival XD
tranquil cove
but im from an era on the internet where we kept our distance
we never used our real names anywhere
i still dont, everything is an alias
timber prism
That is weird
tranquil cove
i have an alias email, if i want to give out an email, i give that out, my email with my name in it still doesn't have my last name and i only give that one out to people i know irl.
my social media doesn't have my last name
my friend i've known for 10 years still doesn't know my last name
lol
i dunno, it's how i am
timber prism
Yeah. I can see why you think online people arent friends then
tranquil cove
i think its different if you met someone, and they moved to europe or something
or if you met people vacationing to europe
and stayed in contact
tepid wadi
How is that any different than meeting online in a game and staying in contact though?
tranquil cove
because you usually never met
i mean i had a long distance relationship with someone i met online, for 2 years too when i was young. over 10 years ago. but i still don't believe online is going to get you very many real friendships. none that compare to real life ones either.
tepid wadi
Depends on the person, I suppose
round beacon
what a bunch of....
ai is the same than internet breed friendships?
how about differentiating between the typical lfg.and a friendship..thats real. intimate..deep. it only depends on the people..comparing that with ai is just straight up bull..
the reason why people "befriend" ai's is because those poor folks have severe psychological ilness like heavy anxiety. depression etc..
timber prism
i mean i had a long distance relationship with someone i met online, for 2 years...
I think this is very dependent on the person and how they view others. Like using terms like online alias makes it seem like you view others as behaving completely different online versus in person
Like my online friends are exactly how they are in real life
tranquil cove
i think its possible, but i also think online isnt really conducive to having a real friendship. for example some people are great friends when they live nearby, and then that friendship falls apart when 1 of them moves to another country. they are still friends... but it's in feeling, not in actions.
timber prism
But maybe this is why they are my friends and not just some random online person
tepid wadi
Friendship isn't transactional, you don't have to do things for someone to be friends with them
tranquil cove
sure but friendship isn't just formed out of nothing either
round beacon
and keepin a real friendship is effort. its what you do to keep.in touch. it doesnt matter if ur my neighbor or on the other side of the world. put the time and effort in then you have urself a friendship
tranquil cove
unless you mean the very early stages like a 5 year old would form a friendship "you're my friend" and the other 5 year old responds "you are my friends too" and now that formed outta just a desire to be friends.. kind of out of nothing. lol
after 3 seconds of meeting each other
round beacon
thats how i met my best friend.
"oy i like ur attitude and style" "sound"
we been friends for 15 years now and counting.
tepid wadi
Sometimes you just vibe with someone 🤷♀️ It's definitely a thing
timber prism
Exactly
tranquil cove
round beacon
the good thing about internetfriendships? you actualy start on a basis that bonds u easyer. because u usually meet in an environment and under conditions you both enjoy
timber prism
Im met someone recently who lives across the country and im meeting up with her at a show because we just get along
undone cliff
In my experience, you may not really know a person who is an internet friend. th...
Two of my biggest supporters are from my time in eve online. one of them is in Norway and the other is eight hours from me. I haven't met either of them but both of them helped keep me grounded through my most recent fight with my depression, and if it wasn't for them and my gf i wouldn't still be in a bad way.
timber prism
Two of my biggest supporters are from my time in eve online. one of them is in ...
This is great! This is how my friendship is with my friend in Colombia. We met in Archage!
tranquil cove
well then i guess i just dont meet anyone i vibe with 🤣
tepid wadi
This is great! This is how my friendship is with my friend in Colombia. We met...
Archeage is where one of my closest gaming buddies and I bonded. We knew each other before, but that's the game that brought us together.
undone cliff
I played archeage
timber prism
Nothing bonds people better than pirating together XD
tranquil cove
i do get lots of throwback people
tepid wadi
IDK if you guys remember the neutral island you could build on in the ocean, my buddies and I basically bought out the entire island.
undone cliff
Nothing bonds people better than pirating together XD
or having pirates come escort you so you turn in the peridot statue
tepid wadi
Maybe? The only thing on it was a rez shrine
tranquil cove
who were like i was in your ultima online guild, Pirate Roberts! or remember when we played counterstrike zombie mod? SUPERMAN is that you?! and they remember me etc. or they remember when i helped them as newbies in a game etc.
tepid wadi
I built a trade platform there
undone cliff
i remeber that island
tepid wadi
It didn't DO anything because trade platforms only worked on continents, but it was a huge goal and achievement
timber prism
I cant remember tbh. I had a small island used for staging
undone cliff
I never owned anything but i remember a few of my old buddies using it as staging point
tepid wadi
It wasn't the island that you turned in trade packs on, or even close to it. It was in like the southern ocean area. We did a TON of fishing runs
The sport fishing minigame in Archeage was top tier
timber prism
Yeah! I think that was the same small staging island I used
undone cliff
I mis the fishing mini game
timber prism
1.0 marlin wars was my favorite
undone cliff
I actually did all of the dailies so that i could get the predator long liner
tepid wadi
It was cool. We got some housing plots there, and then kept a REAL close eye on when everyone else's rents came due and bought them out (or talked to them and bought them out)
Ended up owning almost the entire main section of the island
undone cliff
I'm hoping archeage chronicles isn't dead
tepid wadi
I'm more hoping that Ashes of Creation can be a good Archeage successor, I know they're taking inspiration from it for their trading and stuff.
I don't really have faith that Chronicles is going to really live up to its potential. I've heard they've made big shifts towards PvE and instanced housing and stuff
undone cliff
tepid wadi
which is pretty counter to what made Archeage good. Seeing people's builds and stuff was awesome.
Yeah, the fishing trawlers were awesome.
undone cliff
agreed
tepid wadi
If someone can recapture the vibe of Archeage and then NOT ruin it with p2w mtx, they'll have something special for sure.
timber prism
The craziest thing about Archeage was the trust devs had in us to give us full reign on custom emblems for sails etc.
timber prism
Haha yeah. One of those houses on my server was like weeb heaven
tepid wadi
Yeah...
undone cliff
there was a guy on my server that basically had enough land and money to decorate his land for every holiday
timber prism
That sounds awesome!!
frank sonnet
alrighty back to job hunting
truly the most difficult side quest
undone cliff
mhm
misty arch
frank sonnet
hm i don't that's how wielding a staff works 🤔
misty arch
I disagree
frank sonnet
i feel like nms is going to add the ability to build and operate space stations at some point
tepid wadi
I disagree
Hell yeah
frank sonnet
still i think hello games needs to rework staff holding
misty arch
there have been many rumors that sooner or later we were going to get custom stations but dont think we will be
frank sonnet
you never know perhaps it will be more testing for light no fire
misty arch
vague galleon
hmmm
has potential
interesting how the first game had supernatural elements and then they never really did that again.
also blood dragon was the best one.
misty arch
interesting how the first game had supernatural elements and then they never rea...
will be interesting if they use any of those supernatural elements in the show.
vague galleon
ya
im a big fan of the farcry series but they are not without flaws.
it took me a long time to get into farcry 2 and actually make progress but then i stopped and played 5 and new dawn and i could not go back to it, with how boring it is in comparison.
but i loved little things like picking up enemies weapons and they performed worse.
then 6 you cant even pick up enemy weapons..........
or how in like the later installments healing went from free slow heals + usuable items for quick heals to usable items only for slow heals......
and 5 and new dawn, with my least favorite stories, are the only ones to get companions right....
4 had the best plot i think but boy do I wish I could have had a few more story branches
sweet patrol
4 had the best plot i think but boy do I wish I could have had a few more story ...
Favorite villain is still Pagan Min
vague galleon
Pagan Min is cool. imagine actually working alongside him to take down the golden path
imagine not working for the two bozos and claiming your rightful place as leader of the golden path.
imagine giving that one lady a reason to keep living....
ive thought about this a lot.
tepid wadi
Pagan Min is cool. imagine actually working alongside him to take down the golde...
The only person I want to go down the golden path with is Leto 2
vague galleon
Leto 2?
tepid wadi
Dune reference
sweet patrol
Dune
vague galleon
Whats Dune?
vague galleon
im sorry
but its funny
real talk though. i dont think ill ever read the book
i know its this amazing story but. eh. not my thing.
sweet patrol
I prefer the parasol protectorate
tepid wadi
To be fair, the book that reference is from isnt exactly the most popular.
Its where the series gets... weird.
sweet patrol
My dad is an avid dune reader and yes that is where it goes off according to him
tranquil cove
Enshrouded was a choice for labour of love, but i was like.. its not really a labour of love until 1.0 is done and they continue to deliver content? right now it's just EA they are obligated to finish ea, even if love is involved.
I never played silksong, thats a throw away award im just assuming its a game you might bring with you on a deck, and that i would suck at a platformer, so i think it fits.
Never played split fiction — but i saw gameplay/trailers, assuming the story is good. I have played slime rancher 1, and that was laid back. Titan quest 2, is beautiful, and i want to give it an award so it fits there best.
Space engineers 2 has a really good soundtrack and they even hired an orchestra and given that the game is alpha release basically, and to me i know it will become a game of the year someday, good potential, good bones, will be epic. I still cant give it any other award based on what is there currently, except the music.
Cataclysmo was lack of options, and i guess i cant think of another game that functions exactly that way with the wall building.
The rest explains itself, i never played midnight walk and i dont have VR. but out of the vr options it stood out. and peak is better with friends, abiotic factor is basically game of the year for me. really good.
yeah i could put enshrouded for labour of love. NMS won that award before?
tepid wadi
I could see Enshrouded as Outstanding Visual Style or Sit Back and Relax as well
vague galleon
enshrouded is taking all the awards next year when it hits 1.0
tranquil cove
enshrouded could be most innovative gameplay as well
but so could SE2
SE2 is doing things with voxels and physics very few if none games have done.
Enshrouded has one of the best voxel engines
and building
as well as flying gliders which is unusual gameplay
tepid wadi
I dont really see it as innovative from a gameplay perspective, but if there was a "technically impressive" award, I'd nominate it for that in a heartbeat.
The gameplay feels like "I took all of these common ideas and put them together in a REALLY great package"
tepid wadi
And then slap the crazy technical achievement of the voxel engine on top of that.
tranquil cove
i always find the innovative award hard to decide
labour of love is basically a game that recieves love still after it releases for me.
tepid wadi
I liked Cataclysmo, but IDK if I'd say it's more innovative than other games this year. Expedition33 built turn based combat in such a way that a lot of peple I know who don't like turn based combat loved the game. That feels pretty innovative
tepid wadi
Yeah, innovative gameplay is hard
Can't think of any real "genre defining" games that changed something significantly this year.
Like Arc Raiders is great, and probably the best extraction game out there, but did it CHANGE something about the gameplay? Not really unless you count excellent execution and the machine learning for the Arcs
tepid wadi
I think he's just talking generally, like games that were actually innovative (for when they came out)
Portal definitely fits the bill there
tranquil cove
blue prince could be visual style?
tepid wadi
I actually think Cataclysmo fits for Visual Style more than Innovation
Their art is excellent
tranquil cove
yeah i mean titan quest 2 was beautiful too
timber prism
Oh wait. Blue prince is this year
That is definitely innovative to me
I cant remember the last time a game actually made me create a journal
tranquil cove
Titan quest even has good music
and they sing actual greek in one part of the story
tepid wadi
Yeah, they're doing a good job with TQ2
tranquil cove
Oh wait. Blue prince is this year
why is blueprince innovative again?
i forget what the gameplay was
i think it was on my wishlist though
timber prism
Puzzle game that lets you build the map
tranquil cove
is warframe a labour of love?
game release long ago
still gets updates
LOL
can a game with monetization inside it, so they have to update it, be a labour of love?
or is it a labour of money
vague galleon
labor of money.
tepid wadi
Ehh, I think it can still be a labor of love. If they don't have super bad monetization then I don't think it's just a labor of money.
PoE? Labor of Love
Overwatch 2? Labor of Money
tranquil cove
the labour of love says this
i assumed debut means the 1.0 debut
a game can have multiple debuts? did they just mean launch day?
tepid wadi
Ehhh, debut might be "easly access launch" too
tranquil cove
they say all these years, so more than 1 year EA??
tepid wadi
I don't think it's a strict timeline, really
If a game is actively getting updates and it's getting noticeably better, it might be eligable
Like I dunno of people would consider Valheim for that just because the updates have SO long between them and it upsets their players.
tranquil cove
ever since i left their discord, their updates slowed to a crawl
it was my fault
lol
tepid wadi
Nah, each update has just gotten progressively longer in between them
tranquil cove
i wonder why though
abiotic factor kept a good pace
se2 is deving their game like the flash
valheim planning for valheim 2 already
they secretly developing a new engine
ornate fractal
valheim planning for valheim 2 already
Man, glad I chose Enshrouded.
round beacon
valheim planning for valheim 2 already
and where pray tell did u get that from? about that valheim 2 thing? 😅
tranquil cove
and where pray tell did u get that from? about that valheim 2 thing? 😅
its just a guess
if development is slow, it could be they don't know what they are doing/planning is taking long. or they are doing ideas that require more coding/engine problems. or they actually allocated parts of their dev team for a new engine/valheim 2.
a lot of games work on a second version without ever announcing it for 1-2 years
then they announce, and then 1 year later they release EA
i guess it could also be the company is being sold
round beacon
thats a wild guess.
but eh. everyone what they enjoy
tranquil cove
its basically what happened with space engineers
they worked on new engine secretly
when they announced SE2, they already had tons of progress done in multiple areas of the game
so content seems to be faster than it is, but it's actually 2 years of work already
oh valheim is on unity engine?
yeahhhhh even more reason to believe they want their own engine for a new game
well they are only 16 people team still?
they would need to double that team to work on new engine
minimally
though i guess new engine is all coding
16 new coders 😄
tranquil cove
i never played portal
i have it, but i was never drawn to it, seems like it would be a sort of boring puzzle game
slash platformer
timber prism
i have it, but i was never drawn to it, seems like it would be a sort of boring ...
literally missed out out on a generational industry game
tranquil cove
that's okay, i don't even think steam was around when it came out
i didn't need to play it when everyone else did
timber prism
steam was def around
steam 2003
portal i think was around 2007 or so
you may have not used it that early if you weren't playing Half Life and Counter Strike
HL2*
tranquil cove
i got steam around 2006
i bought games in stores before then
i had to rebuy some games on steam that i already owned hardcopy purchase of
i don't really gravitate toward popular games
otherwise i would buy AAA titles, i own very few
i buy games 10+ years after nobody cares about them which is when i bought portal, probably in last 5 years
i played every game late, even half life 2
atomic kayak
A Steam account was required to play HL2 on PC.
Before that, Counter-Strike 1.6 and beyond needed Steam.
Team Fortress, Counter-Strike, and Half Life 2 are what got Steam off the ground, and then years later DOTA 2 became the cash cow
Don't ask me why I remember this shit. I'm old. lol
timber prism
Counter Strike at the gaming cafes was so much fun as a teen
frank sonnet
Don't ask me why I remember this shit. I'm old. lol
You play counter strike with dinosaurs?
tepid wadi
If you're that old, do you remember the The Specialists half life mod?
I played that at a LAN cafe forever ago and it was so fun
atomic kayak
If you're that old, do you remember the The Specialists half life mod?
I remember playing the beta counter strike mod for HL1 at a LAN party. Diablo 2 had also just been released.
atomic kayak
If you're that old, do you remember the The Specialists half life mod?
I don't think I ever played that one
atomic kayak
You play counter strike with dinosaurs?
Yes. CRT monitor and all
tepid wadi
I don't think I ever played that one
It was the one that was based off The Matrix with bullet time and everything. It was so much fun to have a lobby of 64 bots and like 20 players.
tranquil cove
we all played counter strike at a lan cafe?
wtf
we are a dying breed
when we die, there will be nobody left who played cs at a lan cafe
i think i played counter strike without having steam
so im not sure what you guys are on about
Counter-Strike without Steam: It’s possible to have played the original Counter-Strike 1.6 or Condition Zero before Steam was fully integrated, especially since Counter-Strike started as a mod for Half-Life 1, which didn't require Steam at first. But as Steam became a requirement for games like Half-Life 2, it pushed the platform to be more integral to the gaming experience. So, if you played early CS, it might've been through other means (like non-Steam versions) before Steam fully took over.
yep
i remember playing CS on my 56k modem and sucking
and as soon as i went to lan cafe with friends, i destroyed them for first time and they thought i was cheating even though they could see my screen
and i was like. wow lag makes a huge difference
they all had broadband internet at home
but apparently lag also trains you to be amazing when you finally get good internet
probably i played on counter strike 1.3
1.3/1.4 and 1.6 sounds like when i quit
then i played counter strike source when i got steam (mostly zombie mod)
the zombie mod on cs go pretty much sucks, its not the same as source
they used to have grenade fails, where zombies could time jumping when grenade explodes to get launched forward into humans. and the zombie mod i played had a few features.
- predator invisi zombies
- speedy zombies
- double jump zombie
- brute type zombie (more hp and hard to knockback)
- regular zombie
as well as parachutes.
timber prism
If you're that old, do you remember the The Specialists half life mod?
Did you ever play the Opera mod?
It was the John Woo style mod with double pistols flying leaping in the air, sliding down banister, etc.
atomic kayak
1.3/1.4 and 1.6 sounds like when i quit
I remember 1.6 CS because that was the version that introduced riot shields. It felt unfair, so lots of players stuck with 1.5 until they were forced to go to 1.6 and Steam.
tepid wadi
I didnt play that one that I remeber, but it was like 20+ years ago so 🤷
tranquil cove
https://youtu.be/aavNidH3wnc?si=6uyY3wEnqZLHXcIZ
has all the elements to be a good game
the music is nice too
frank sonnet
gave my base a make under
misty arch
gave my base a make under
lesson learned - never use metal on a corrosive planet
misty arch
the reason there has been no new word on Light No fire
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/survival-crafting/sean-murray-just-crushed-my-hopes-of-playing-light-no-fire-anytime-soon-by-by-describing-the-dev-team-as-tiny-and-working-in-the-background-at-hello-games/
obtuse scroll
Yeah, all those people that said it'd be out this year or early next and I kept telling them there was no way....
I keep saying, all I hope is they have a better launch with this than NMS. I don't trust that they won't get rushed to release too early and then you have to wait like a year or two for a truly playable game.
tranquil cove
light no fire 2027 prolly
vague galleon
dang
obtuse scroll
I will believe 2027 when they put out some videos showing they have an actual game and not just a world
vague galleon
i want to play NMS again but it's a game i'd have to dedicate myself to and well....
im hoping LNF is much easier to get in and out of, like valheim or enshrouded. probably will be.
misty arch
i want to play NMS again but it's a game i'd have to dedicate myself to and well...
now is the perfect time since they are doing the Expedition rewind. Youd be able to get some stuff you might have missed.
vague galleon
wait, they have limited time content? lame.
but like, i hate having to relearn how to fly a fighter, and do I need to make a new character and stuff like that.
plus base building is.... :S
frank sonnet
but like, i hate having to relearn how to fly a fighter, and do I need to make a...
no you don't need to make a new character
vague galleon
ive had too in the past.
wish you could easily just build the ships you wanted instead of having to hunt for them.
but i use a character editor so maybe i can just copy seeds.
misty arch
wait, they have limited time content? lame.
yes, but they redo them at the ends of the year for those who miss out, and usually are easier to do since they streamline them more for the end year rewinds.
a new Among Us type game
https://youtu.be/YBW2UkEHFD4?si=08UNh7HbS1v-Q_1c
frank sonnet
i hope we get some reduxes of some of the older expeditions
misty arch
they will
tepid wadi
I'm just intentionally forgetting about LNF until they release it
tranquil cove
I will believe 2027 when they put out some videos showing they have an actual ga...
for sure, but 2027 is a decent timeline to expect EA i mean
i didn't mean a completed game
i blame myself for not writing specific
tranquil cove
man even foundry is a stupid game
nobody designs games good
makes me question if devs play their own game
you cant turn the conveyor into the loader lol
they want you to waste time and space instead of solving a lot of problems by allowing conveyor to turn into loader
now i have to setup everything differently and way less efficiently
the objects still load from the belt to the loader
with straight belt
i dont know why i bothered buying factory sims, huge waste of time
having to redo 10 spots 10000 times, isn't fun
probably will have a mental breakdown when i need to expand storage containers, to find out i need to move 150 other buildings and belts to do it
tranquil cove
this game is also frustrating
its supposed to be a chill game, but I KEEP running out of tiles
how dare they make it a game instead of just easy 😭
unreal mulch
Got any recommendations for a survival game I can play solo? I usually only play Enshrouded with my group, but they’re all busy at the moment. I’m not really feeling Valheim either played it to death already.
I’m looking for something with survival and some RPG elements. Any ideas?
ornate fractal
Got any recommendations for a survival game I can play solo? I usually only play...
If you want something simple and quick (40 hours), very chill, I can't say enough nice things about Cozy Keep. It's still in development but very polished, cute and relaxing.
hardy lily
Got any recommendations for a survival game I can play solo? I usually only play...
Dune Awakening, free trial from 20 - 27. So, not much time left on it, but worth a shot. Survival game with really good graphics and has RPG elements.
quartz fable
when is this game releasing?
vague galleon
which game?
snow nymph
Hytale is releasing next month :D
misty arch
tranquil cove
ill probably buy it if i like the early access gameplay videos
have to wait and see
tranquil cove
i already redid my foundry factory 3 times
though the third rendition is nicer, but i have a feeling it will be 30 times
misty arch
If you own Last Epoch -
“Anyone on PC who owns Last Epoch before the launch of the Orobyss expansion will receive the expansion as a free update,” the studio posted. “New players and PlayStation 5 players will be purchasing Last Epoch, all of its seasonal content, and the Orobyss expansion as one updated purchase.”
tranquil cove
If you own Last Epoch -
“Anyone on PC who owns Last Epoch before the launch of t...
i dont get what that means
i have warframe, what's last epoch
misty arch
its a type of Arpg game like Diablo
tranquil cove
what does 1 have to do with the other
partnership with another game?
or did you just link warframe after that
lol
oh maybe
orobyss is an expansion for last epoch?
misty arch
yes, its just discord being stupid with how it connects 1 persons chat messages.
misty arch
orobyss is an expansion for last epoch?
yes, it is a DLC for Last Epoch and if you already own the game you get it for free when it releases in the coming week. If not you have to buy everything.
tranquil cove
who is a factory sim guy why would i need a balancer
i don't understand what the point is
oh is it because you have the same item on a different belt that is producing more? why would you do that? bad factory design?
weird.. anyway
my factory is pretty simple so far
tepid wadi
I believe the idea of the balancer is that you have 2 different inputs of different items. Usually used to make one item. That makes it so the 'input' for that second item is always balanced.
tranquil cove
i still dont get it
like look at this
why would i need to balance these?
i dont understand the use case 😭
maybe the way im doing my factory doesnt need balancer?
tepid wadi
Because you can branch off from your main line and not take any more than you need. Can be valuable when you have different input rates.
tranquil cove
it's all throughput design, 1 belt leads to 10 things
why does it matter if i take more than i need though?
it just stays storage on my belt
everything is leaving from storage containers
tepid wadi
Because if you split your main line too many ways, you can end up depleting it only to have big sections of conveyor holding functionally worthless items, while other sections dont get fed at all because its empty
tranquil cove
i didnt split my conveyors
its all throughput
1 line leads to everything for everything lol
tepid wadi
Then yeah you probably wont need them
If you're worried about certain styles of efficiency, they might be very important.
tranquil cove
i think its more efficient than balancers because balancer would take more space if it works the way you said
also i was reading that people use cargo containers like a balancer
and every component on my belt already comes from a cargo container
but cargo containers are less precise than a balancer or something
they said it uses some rabbit design?
tepid wadi
Basically a balancer will be good if you're trying to exactly match your production and consumption rates.
But a lot of people dont care about that and just try to have way more production than consumption.
tranquil cove
tranquil cove
Basically a balancer will be good if you're trying to exactly match your product...
i just think a throughput design is more efficient too, because if you do multiple belts you're using more space
tepid wadi
Balancers matter more if your resources are limited. Then it matters if you overproduce something you dont need.
tranquil cove
whereas i can have 1 belt go everywhere in a small factory
perhaps i will need to use balancer when i expand more
tranquil cove
Balancers matter more if your resources are limited. Then it matters if you over...
my production is capped at the container size
so if a container can store 3600 items, then it stops producing pretty sure
tepid wadi
If your raw resources are infinite, balancers dont matter because overproduction doesnt "hurt" you
tranquil cove
i dont mind if i have 3600 of everything basically
tepid wadi
Yeah
tranquil cove
plus i can sell excess on the space station eventually
yeah foundry might be a more forgiving game than factorio
tepid wadi
But imagine if your iron deposits ran out. Then having a storage of 3600 gears you dont need might mean you cant make enough screws to power your engine or whatever.
tranquil cove
cause i think also i can just belt new ores to my factory when these ore deposits run out
and the map seems huge
ok i think i get it, thank you
tepid wadi
Yeah, most factory games dont care as much about resource use efficiency because the happy chemicals come from making a nice machine.
tranquil cove
see the space station? i repaired it, was 50% broken before too
it also appeared broken in the sky
before i repaired it, which is neat
tepid wadi
Yeah thats cool
tranquil cove
this is a cool window
transport bot is the only product i can make and sell right now
I think they also have other players high scores?
pretty sure these are real players lol
there would be absolutely no reason to have this if it wasnt
tepid wadi
Yeah probably
frank sonnet
tepid wadi
Have fun! Is it your first playthrough?
frank sonnet
It is I died to a falling tree
tranquil cove
Have fun! Is it your first playthrough?
dude
you make an elevator
and set how deep you want it to be built
and the elevator digs to that depth itself
this is better than minecraft
tepid wadi
It is I died to a falling tree
A core learning experience 😝
tranquil cove
is that Foundry?
yeah
apparently they will have a big train update soon
pretty huge, people wanted trains in corekeeper and 3+ years later nothing, and it's surely not as hard to add trains as it was for foundry lol
frank sonnet
I had to double take to see if it wasn’t satisfactory
tranquil cove
imo foundry is better, has better snapping and grid system, at the expense of being a block game
but i like block games
like minecraft/space engineers 2
hytale etc.
also foundry you can change the terrain and satisfactory you can't
i'm getting mixed reports on which game is more complex
misty arch
Ive been watching Foundry for awhile. Their last big update added the ability to go galaxy wide, not just planet.
So its close to a mash up of satisfactory and Dyson Sphere with markets.
tranquil cove
Ive been watching Foundry for awhile. Their last big update added the ability to...
its still slightly empty
like the one drawback might be that its world generation whereas satisfactory is a handcrafted world with mobs and you have to explore it more
and foundry you basically sit around and do nothing until your upgrade finishes
BUT, aside from this 1 thing, literally the only problem with the game, it's great in every other way.
and it's still early access, so there is room to improve
tepid wadi
Thats one thing I never like in factory or city builder games, when you're waiting for something to finish and all you do it wait or speed up time.
tranquil cove
Thats one thing I never like in factory or city builder games, when you're waiti...
i mean to be fair while im waiting i could build an office
or improve a section of the factory
but i also tend not to improve or touch anything unless it becomes absolutely necessary
so im just sitting around waiting for tech
i didnt decorate my factory yet or add rails or lighting either
cause no point if in 10 hours the factory will be totally different, and then its just more crap i have to move
but again its still early access, and they are implementing a big train feature soon, it seems like there is still room and time for huge improvements after that
so given whats in the game for EA already? exceptional game.
frank sonnet
truly a base worthy of the gods
wintry flax
i dont have Enshrouded base pictures yet, still kind of new but here is my Valheim house
obtuse dock
Game name plzzzzz 😭
tranquil cove
electronic arts is disrespectful of my time
they want to steal currency i earned playing their game
they are effectively telling me not to play their game because it's a waste of time.
all the tix i earned, 14k was earned after i already bought all the items, i earned it thinking i could keep all of it for next season. if they make it so you can only keep a portion they are effectively saying i shouldn't have played the game once i bought everything from the store i wanted, and i should have logged off for the 3 remaining weeks instead until the new season started.
so now i will do that
log off and spend my time on a better game that respects my time
misty arch
frank sonnet
re did my base so now its slightly less of a shit shack
obtuse scroll
re did my base so now its slightly less of a shit shack
You're going to get rained on
timber prism
I really hope they increased the diff on Cosmic Invasion bc the demo was way too easy
misty arch
i hope it was just that it was a demo and things are more difficult in the official release
timber prism
i hope it was just that it was a demo and things are more difficult in the offic...
just read this
no difficulty changes which is kinda crazy
gonna wait for a deep sale to pick it up eventually
I really enjoyed Absolum if you are looking for a beat em up rogue like
misty arch
hmm, oh well. really picking it up for christmas to play with my nephew when he visits. show him the old school arcade fun we used to have
timber prism
I love that
I do the same thing with my nephew and niece!
we played astrobot, donkey kong bananza, and mario kart
misty arch
I used to take care of him when he was a baby so he has been around games his entire life. Hes a nintendo boy now but grew up playing Little Big Planet and car racing games
timber prism
Nice!
they are a big fan of the lego games
ninjango etc.
Little Big Planet is great
misty arch
what if Fromsoftware made a game in Minecraft
https://youtu.be/cM2725at2fc?si=O3M7V99SYP4F8mVz
frank sonnet
what if Fromsoftware made a game in Minecraft
https://youtu.be/cM2725at2fc?si=O3...
with the amount of block games coming i'm starting to wonder if Minecraft is becoming irrelevant now
misty arch
with the amount of block games coming i'm starting to wonder if Minecraft is bec...
I look at it that it was inevitable. Weve got Souls likes. extraction type, why not minecraft types
tepid wadi
The only one that feels like an actual evolution as far as the blocks go is Enshrouded
vague galleon
with the amount of block games coming i'm starting to wonder if Minecraft is bec...
nah.
just like wow wont die.
its too big.
misty arch
The only one that feels like an actual evolution as far as the blocks go is Ensh...
I actually agree with this. I tell anyone even thinking about Enshrouded that it compares to Minecraft if you want to build things.
vague galleon
frank sonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmWLi5XabxA
this a mod?
vague galleon
i think its a new game??
misty arch
The videos info section has a break down of all the game is going to have.
A Complete RPG Transformation
Dawngarde is more than a modpack; it is a total conversion that turns the survival sandbox into a feature-rich Role-Playing Game. The project boasts a suite of features designed to add depth, strategy, and narrative weight to the Valheim experience.
round beacon
But it doesnt name a single mod it incorporates into the modpack. although i already know at least three of em. its a bit sad they dont mention any. hopefully later down the line.
nova crescent
what if Fromsoftware made a game in Minecraft
https://youtu.be/cM2725at2fc?si=O3...
o...m....G!!!! no way!! If this is real, I'm in. 🙂
misty arch
o...m....G!!!! no way!! If this is real, I'm in. 🙂
it is very real.
tepid wadi
I mean that walking cathedral is a 1:1 Elden Ring steal 😝
tepid wadi
https://youtu.be/8CSEx8b5asA?si=RWgY_FkDR8nv04Wf
I'm trying real hard to not watch too much stuff about it. I'm super excited
I loved the first one
nova crescent
it is very real.
That is wonderful news!!!
junior prism
misty arch
tranquil cove
space engineers 2 released planets
still an alpha release
only 30% of the game is done
this time next year will be at 70%
timber prism
runic basin
https://youtu.be/xZ0g-LyBUjo?si=msmteBCnnetQBo0F
The new Darktide class is stupid amounts of fun