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queen mango
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playing with friends is definitely a fun multiplier

timber prism
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i think the beginning is a little slow in terms of getting your base started but once you have at least 5 pals or so in the base automating stuff, you really start just roaming and finding stuff

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having your base attacked also keeps the loop going

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Im playing on two dedicated servers atm with different groups of friends but it has been a fun experience so far

rapid yoke
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Yeah the early game looks really solid for what it is, and these types of games are always better with people to play with , no matter how good or bad the game is.

timber prism
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im hoping to try out the pvp tomorrow

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yeah.. i was saying earlier how survival games are always better in groups

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I personally can't play them solo

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im hoping the pokemon mechanics draw more people into enjoying survival games

short sail
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Front part of me new castle.

shy oasis
short sail
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Now for the digging of a cellar.

shy oasis
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Let me know when it’s ready and I’ll bring my stuff and move in

short sail
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Only for rent. 500 coins daily.

shy oasis
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Pfff

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I thought we were friends

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I’ll cook and bring you wood

short sail
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Excuse me. Valheim was recently overrun by other Vikings. This drove up property prices quite high. Besides, I have chests full of building materials, but I have to earn a living somehow. deercat_sadthumbs

reef bobcat
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Odin won’t be pleased. He sent you here to clean out the bosses. Not Runa buisness

short sail
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Why should I care about Odin? He doesn't care about me either... deercat_derp

peak marsh
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But he watches over you while you play. Ever see that dark hooded figure randomly standing around? That's Odin

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You can see Thor too, riding his chariot across the sky during a thunderstorm. True story, next time there's a thunderstorm go outside and look up for a bit

short sail
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I know. But that does not mean he cares about you. He just stalks you.

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Also the Thor one I knew. deercat_sadthumbs

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Don't got 2k+ hours with staring in the air. deercat_derp

peak marsh
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Yeah, he is kind of a creepy stalker

short sail
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I thought first he was a wraith... I've keeping a mile between us up to the plains. Then I recognized that he wasn't as bad

dusk bluff
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Alot of the hype games like this peak the first weekend and then when everyone no life's the content it goes down alot

zinc sandal
sullen crane
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We are out peaking apex and valorant

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Game of the year !!!

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Will we out peak baulder gates 3

daring oasis
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You are in the wrong server for "We" 😝 but yes it is a great release for them, I am looking forward to see how it develops during EA

sullen crane
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If we peak 1 million players enshrouded might need to delay lol 👁️

timber prism
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I am in the group of we

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Im curious on how many people drop it for Enshrouded so I rather not see a delay

hollow barn
peak marsh
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I doubt it. I think people will drop it regardless once the new game smell wears off (always happens) and Enshrouded will be there as the next game to play

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But I don't think Enshrouded will literally make people stop playing

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Maybe some will, I think the big numbers are because the survival genre is a little hungry right now, but between Palworld, Enshrouded, and Nightingale that population will spread out and people will pick the one that speaks to them more

lilac adder
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I can't see this game having longetivity... I suppose pkm influence is huge so maybe it will.. Palworld

timber prism
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I feel the same way when i think of pokemon games in general

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that they don't have longevity but people play them for months

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especially with the breeding in palworld it could hit the same vein of players who just want to play to collect all the variants and breed them for the perfect traits to pass down

graceful tinsel
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Playing Palworld on Gamepass and its been pretty fun. It's like they fully fleshed out Craftopia's concept by making your Pals the automation. It's the touch that it needed to be fun.

winter oyster
shadow hemlock
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Speaking of palworld...

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what is the implication here

timber prism
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He sells black market goods

sullen crane
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all games have content drought unless its a grindy mmo that takes months just to get to max level with P2W monitazation

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also the game will have mods which just opens the game up to unlimated possiblities

remote lotus
rocky blaze
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I refunded PalWorld. The building in it was just bad and if I'm playing an open world, survival, and crafting game I need the building aspect to be fleshed out a lot more. I built a simple two story that wasn't a perfect rectangle and I had to trick the game into getting the roof tiles to work and then the one jog in the building was completely unable to be handled. It's Early Access, so hopefully they'll add more building models but the building still feels really bad regardless. There's more building flexibility with Lincoln Logs.

rich coral
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palworld is actually great big balls to release in the same month

shadow hemlock
rocky blaze
# shadow hemlock Yeah the building system isn't a great start. There's really no reason to do it ...

Yeah, I built beds for all of my Pals and thought I could make a separate area for the work benches and the Palbox, but no. I will say that all of the Pals and their unique traits are really well done. But part of the Pal System is how they help out around your "base". So not being able to make a nice base was the breaking point for me. I'm hoping that Enshrouded will actually be graded even better due to the comparison between the two games.

fallow bobcat
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ready to kill the queen in the mistlands prob this weekend

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then ready for enshrouded!

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anything to do in valheim after killing the queen?

quaint cosmos
fallow bobcat
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we're already in mistlands roaming nad hitting dungeons there

quaint cosmos
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I only found 2 and its not enough. I feel so behind and my Mistlands are small, so there isn't much in them but pain and suffering.

fallow bobcat
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oof

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we just got all the magic benches set up so we got that flying cape thing and some magic weaponry

ocean hatch
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anyone else interested in Avowed? seems to have a lot of delays and not much info about the game

proven verge
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sounds familiar.. think I looked at it onces.

ocean hatch
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kinda similar to enshrouded in my eyes, but more like skyrim than valheim. made by obsidian

rapid yoke
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But it's not looking all that great currently. Another year of polish and it could be something good

ocean hatch
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yeahhh, supposed to come out this year

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I played Outer Worlds and it was fun but not a masterpiece, didnt replay it at all

proven verge
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how bout outward?

ocean hatch
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I have it wishlisted but havent bought it yet, the raw difficulty is kinda putting me off

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the magic in that game is the coolest implementation ive ever seen though

proven verge
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aww.. avowed looks to be 1st person only.. reason I was turned off.

ocean hatch
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what do you think about cyberpunk? I feel like 1st person lends itself to cyberpunk

rapid yoke
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Avowed is basically an elderscrollsesque RPG

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1st person is great for those games

gilded depot
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some im actually mad at how good palworld is

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Enshrouded is now going to have to wait a week

peak marsh
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I doubt it will

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Also I don't think anyone is necessarily "mad" about it, grats if you're having fun

gilded depot
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I meant for me lol

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Was hoping for a meme game to hold me over till release now its gonna take all my time lol

rapid yoke
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Yeah if you're having a good time, keep doing so, Enshrouded will be here

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And honestly will probably be even better with early patches

peak marsh
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Ah. MB misunderstood. There's an ongoing thing on the Steam boards right now about how they should delay Enshrouded because of Palworld, which is a really silly idea

gilded depot
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ohhh I didnt know that hope they dont do that

peak marsh
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They wont. Business doesn't work that way

gilded depot
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true, I've seen albums do it before but never games

peak marsh
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Thing is they've already delayed once so another delay for any reason would look really bad. Also just because the timing may not be perfect for hype isn't a valid reason to delay. If you're always waiting for the perfect time your game will never release

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It doesn't really hurt them anyhow, they're planning to be working on EA for the next year, they don't need a day 1 explosion of players to be a success

gilded depot
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yeah plus I see this game having a similar release to valhiem

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dont see this one being ignored

peak marsh
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Nah, they might not get the same day 1 explosion, Palworld just happened to hit right at a time when survival players were starving for a new release

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But a lot of those players will play for a week - a month and Enshrouded will still be there

gilded depot
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true that

rapid yoke
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Guys Palworld is falling apart! They've lost ~1/4 of their player base in two days! Dead game!

short sail
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Wait two more and they've lost 1/2 at this rate!!

rapid yoke
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Obvious satire is obvious I hope

peak marsh
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You're tempting the rage of mercy if not

dusk bluff
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the constant palworld talk is getting almost as annoying as he constant price asking

hallow oracle
dusk bluff
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it almost feels like a advertisement for the game instead of a other games chat

rapid yoke
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I love to hear it! my friend is also enjoying it a bit more today

short sail
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!price

modern gyroBOT
dusk bluff
hallow oracle
dusk bluff
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now we get more advertisement

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🥱

short sail
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I mean, topic of the chan is literally ... other games deercat_derp

dusk bluff
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correct the topic isn't palworld

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if only there was a discord dedicated to it. If only

hallow oracle
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It actually scares me for Enshrouded. This is exactly why I told them they shouldn't delay until Jan.

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Palworld has the jump on them and all the Streamers that are into the Survival type games are all playing Palworld and it's going to be hard to get them to play anything else!

dusk bluff
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🥱

hallow oracle
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If Enshrouded had launched in November like they planned it wouldn't have been an issue. Even December woiuld have been good but they had to change things for the 4Gb VRam people crying on the forums

hallow oracle
dusk bluff
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I am literally in the palworld discord so I can look at palworld related stuff

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lol its just weird how much it's posted constantly here instead of just going to the source

hallow oracle
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No it's not

short sail
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It's because we've got nothing from Enshrouded for... 3 days and 14 hours, 19 minutes and 15 seconds!! fell_cry

hallow oracle
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The game is a direct competitor to Enshrouded and it's in the same genra

dusk bluff
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ima just block it will be easier ^^

hallow oracle
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lol whatever

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half the server is going to get musted then 😄

tepid wadi
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I dunno, I feel like palworld might be a flash in the pan, the game has some real limitations from a builder/exploration perspective that really makes enshrouded shine.

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Its fun, but will it stick? Who knows

short sail
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At least the game doesn't stick with you. deercat_sadthumbs

hallow oracle
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Will we get 800k players on the first few days or will we be pushing half that?

rapid yoke
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Probably half or less, but I was never expecting 1mm sales for this game

peak marsh
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I mean, it really doesn't matter unless you're a Keen Games accountant. This isn't the kind of game where health depends on large swaths of concurrent players. The people who don't buy the first week will probably get it off their wishlists over the next 6 months. It'll be fine

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Since everyone loves Valheim comparisons, sure it had 1m sales in it's first month, but it also sold another 11m over the course of the next 2 - 3 years. Word of mouth is highly effective if you think in the long run

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As long as the game is quality and offers a fun experience, it'll work out in the end

queen mango
rapid yoke
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I hope it does

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BUt I'm fine with millions over the next year

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or 5

queen mango
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more sales = more likely to get continued development

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so I want lots haha

rapid yoke
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yeah i dont need that 🙂

queen mango
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🤔

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🤷‍♂️

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Palworld hit 3 mil

short sail
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But I don't think it will make waves like Valheim did, for example. Valheim had just the right... conditions to make it big. Actual conditions that are difficult to recreate...

obtuse scroll
short sail
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Okay, I'll not unleash the next big thing for Enshrouded. Sooorry. deercat_sadthumbs

rapid yoke
timber prism
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Hitting 2 million in 24 hours!

obtuse scroll
rapid yoke
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I have doubts, but I wouldn't be mad if it did

queen mango
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I just saying... Enshrouded had more followers on Steam 4 days out than Palworld did 4 days out.

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Followers aren't everything, of course.

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Also, I think Enshrouded has more to offer the builder-type player.

peak marsh
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The moral of the story is that the survival/builder genre is a big place with plenty of room for multiple successful games. I wouldn't worry about Palworld and I'm sure Keen aren't either

short sail
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I think the bigger worry of Keen Games is stability of the game itself. deercat_derp

peak marsh
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Thats the most important thing. Rather than being viral, it's more important to release a stable, quality game and let word of mouth do the rest

short sail
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That's how I spread my conspiracy's.

echo tangle
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The survival builder genre is one of those where the more games the better. Its less about competing and more about offering different experiences. Palworld is a compltely different experience to Enshrouded, so they're not really in competition. 😄

dusk bluff
timber prism
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oh.. its up to 3 now?!

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thats pretty sweet

dusk bluff
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yes like i said why not go to their discord where they share the news xD

timber prism
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im too busy playing.. i only know about it because my friend posted it in a non Palworld discord

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XD

short sail
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My castle is growing. Well... At least a bit?

peak marsh
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Reminds me of the castle build me and another guy did on a dedicated a couple years ago

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Nice start

short sail
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I plan on having a basement. Ground floor. And an upper floor

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And a roof

peak marsh
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Roofs are always a good move

tepid wadi
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Especially in valheim

queen mango
fallow bobcat
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beat the queen!

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just in time

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server was about to end in 3 days and enshrouded releases in 3 days

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valheim gets super sloppy toward the end

queen mango
fallow bobcat
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valheim

queen mango
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oh valheim

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reading comprehension

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I haven't played since 2021. Waiting for full release

fallow bobcat
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yeah

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i played then up to mist and then again now with a new group

queen mango
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There wasn't mistlands when I played. Just the plains boss

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Well there were big trees and skulls and cobwebs, but nothing in them

shadow hemlock
rapid yoke
shadow hemlock
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Is it really that, or is it because I haven't completed enough stuff

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not sure lol

rapid yoke
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I heard it's just walled off/not ready

neon sleet
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There's rideable griffins in Valheim?

timber prism
shadow hemlock
neon sleet
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Oh. Idk what that is

dusk bluff
rapid yoke
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Because why not

shadow hemlock
peak marsh
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My guess is it's probably just there to be an interesting skybox

rare owl
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New record for Pal, but i heard here is going to die soon

rapid yoke
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Nah, it's doing great and it probably will for a bit. Glad for it!

rare owl
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Its surpassed BG3 which is the GOTY of last year, so doing "great" is a little bit "underestimation" lol

tepid wadi
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"Legally distinct pokemon... WITH A GUN" is honestly a pretty good tagline for a game that doesnt take itself too seriously 😛

dusk bluff
rapid yoke
rare owl
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Idk, we are talking about being a one of the best or greatest games

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For me great is just oke, nothing big

rapid yoke
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Strange usage of great, but hey, you can be a rare one if you want

quaint kiln
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Palworld 1M concurrent 🤯

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passed elden ring's peak players

hollow barn
rapid yoke
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The asian market is super strong on palworld atm

compact void
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It’s mind blowing, guess they tapped into something. Fun little game, but not sure about the longevity. Played for a few hours and the shine has already started to wear off for me

timber prism
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i hit lvl 32 today and its been pretty great so far

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the designs of some of these pals are hilarious

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this one is my favorite so far

woven cedar
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Palworld is amazing, even if i am playing the earlier not-as-current-as-Steam version on GamePass

regal hatch
peak marsh
sullen crane
rare owl
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That number is a little bit outdated lol

sullen crane
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2 million peak soon 👁️

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They sold 3 million copies in 40 hours that’s 80 million

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For a indie game fell_love

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I’m so happy for the devs !!

zinc sandal
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pax dei

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Palworld got the business model right, first to market kind of thing. They will profit from that decision. They hit the perfect post seasonal slump for gaming.

peak marsh
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That's my take. They're seeing such a surge partially from exposure but in a larger sense because we're coming to the end of a survival game drought

zinc sandal
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My .02, if valheim was released today it would sell maybe 1/5th of their overall sales made during covid. TIming is everything

peak marsh
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Yeah, Valheim was lightning in a bottle

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Perfect mix of right game, right time

zinc sandal
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If this game would have beat them to release, I guarantee they wouldn't be hitting those insane numbers now

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The demo went wild because nothing was out,

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Once a lot of customers spend their money on one game, they don't have money for another

peak marsh
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I mean, the last solidly large survival game was what, Sons of the Forest? And Ark 2 which disappointed most people because it was basically the old Ark with a new map?

zinc sandal
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I honestly couldnt tell you, I have played green hell, night of the dead, the long dark and whatever else is in my librabray looking for that fix

peak marsh
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Eh, that's a temporary condition though. They may not have the money to get Enshrouded at launch, but given 6 months I'd bet most of the people who wishlisted will eventually have it in their libraries

zinc sandal
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but who knows what is coming out in 6 months? That is my point. Gamers are fickle by nature

peak marsh
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That's why I laugh at the people saying Enshrouded should delay because of Pal, like think long term. A game doesn't need to be viral to be successful

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Valheim sold 1m in it's first month, sure, but it sold another 11m over the next 2-3 years. Just make and release a quality game and let word of mouth do the rest

zinc sandal
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As a long time diablo player, diablo II LOD was played for 10 years by people. The latest Diablo I can't even stomach turning it on

zinc sandal
peak marsh
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I mean, that's also my point. This year is going to be great for survival games, that's why the people crying for a delay because of Pal make no sense. You're up against Pal now, you'll be up against Nightingale next month, then Bellwright, then Manor Lords, then Rooted, then Soul Mask, on and on until you're up against Light no Fire

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If you're waiting for the perfect time to launch you're never going to launch

zinc sandal
peak marsh
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I mean, the point of hype is exposure and they already did that with Next Fest. They're currently a top 10 most wishlisted game on Steam. The exposure part is done, now it's just making sure the quality is there

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Again you don't have to be viral to be successful, you can play the long game and do just as well over time even if you don't hit 1m concurrent on Steam

zinc sandal
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I'd rather take your dollar today then a potential 1.20 in 6 months. IF they stay on top of this game they have a potential to create a following. Look at some of the people devoting their life to WOW.

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I agree with you on most of your points, i just see it as capturing market share now

peak marsh
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Well again, I don't see it as necessary because this isn't a live service model where the number of players determines the game's overall success and health. As long as the game ends up being as quality as the demo or moreso, people will eventually come over and try it even if it's not during the first month

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Concurrent players are meaningless to a game like this so not having a viral population explosion is just fine, word of mouth will do the heavy lifting

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Plus we as customers get blinded by big numbers and viral sales figures. You know what the devs for Valheim expected? 12k at launch, maybe 18k if they did really well. That was their original measure of success. If Enshrouded only sells 50k at launch I'm sure for the team it will still be a resounding win

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And I feel like it will sell a lot more than 50k

zinc sandal
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I agree and disagree. If the market becomes saturated with survival crafting building games, there are only so many dollars to go around. I've played with groups before on large voice platforms and the number of times I heard I want that game but can't afford it... Not everyone is in the same boat. I could buy 16 new games this month and it won't affect me..others can only afford 1 maybe 2, and if the price is high only 1 in a couple of months. There is always going to be new shiny. having said that, I am excited for their release and can't wait to play...just hoping I am not disappointed in the end game/overall game. The demo was awesome

peak marsh
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Well, you said it yourself, players are fickle. Of those 2 million who play Palworld this week, by next week half of them will have quit and will be looking for a new game. And sure there's always a new shiney, but people still talk about previous releases that stand the test of time. Going back to Valheim, again they did really well with the viral release and sold between 1-2 million copies during that time. They sold another 10-11 mil over the next 2 - 3 years, well after the hype and in the face of bigger, shinier games

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Word of mouth and post-hype sales absolutely dwarfed their viral period

zinc sandal
peak marsh
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Likewise, remember to bend at the knees

zinc sandal
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I have a tractor with a 7' pusher, but I shovel cause I get fat in winter

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cya

quaint cosmos
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I saw the valheim stats said 5mil first month and 12mil total sales since then.

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As Rhoisaad said before. Right game at the right time.

quaint kiln
peak marsh
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I mean, it's not a competition to begin with. The survival genre is a big place, there's plenty of room for multiple successful games to exist

quaint kiln
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I agree. The more games the better

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All I’m saying is, if 2million people are playing/streaming one game, they can’t play another game at the exact same time

peak marsh
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You underestimate how many gamers exist

quaint kiln
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I’m not saying no one will play enshrouded, I still expect people to play it, I’m saying that’s 2m less people out of Xm gamers that won’t be

daring oasis
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Palworld is indeed a huge launch right now for various reasons, though note that Enshrouded has more followers on Steam as Palworld pre-launch as well as more wishlists. We just have to wait and see. Hype as with all games dies out in a few weeks to a month or so, what comes after is the important part, yes a huge influx of money helps with a big launch but it is not what makes or breaks a studio in the industry

peak marsh
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That also operates under the assumption that the game has to sell all it's copies in the first month in order to be successful. I keep going back to this but Valheim sold 12 million copies. 10-11 million of those were in the 2 - 3 years after the hype died down, fueled almost entirely by word of mouth and not hype. As long as the game is quality and stands the test of time it will do fine

burnt spear
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Doesn't mean that you need 2 million people for a game to be considered a success. The metrics of what make a 'successful' game vary widely depending on your expectations, the work put into the game, the cost to develop the game, how sustained the player base is, how many new people purchase versus old people leaving... there's no one 'true' metric aside from what the devs expect and need to make off the game sales, and only they really know what that number is.

peak marsh
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We as customers get blinded by big numbers and viral sales figures. You know what the devs for Valheim expected? 12k at launch, maybe 18k if they did really well. That was their original measure of success. If Enshrouded only sells 50k at launch I'm sure for the team it will still be a resounding win

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Smart developers don't plan on hype, they play the long game

burnt spear
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Yeah, people get stuck on the, 'It sold 5 million copies on day 1' stuff.

peak marsh
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That's why most of us are not in the games business xD

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Being viral isn't required to be successful unless you're an Activision, Ubisoft, EA, etc where you need to make 500 million in the first week just to cover overhead

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That's the beauty of being a smaller independent studio

quaint kiln
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Yep enshrouded looks like a great game and I expect it to be successful. I’m just venting some disappointment that the game will have its EA spotlight stolen a bit. I’ve been in here for 2 months and pre ordered a gportal server for my friend group, but 1. Gportal is struggling to operate with Palworld and 2. I’m now certain some of my friends that I was trying to get to play Wednesday, won’t be anymore.
I’ll just have to wait until they’re done with Palworld. Lil sad

peak marsh
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Look at it this way: You have Palworld to enjoy now, and you'll be able to enjoy Enshrouded right after. It's a net win

quaint kiln
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Yeppers

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Competition has always been good for consumers. I actually love the pressure this is probably putting on GameFreak/ Nintendo

peak marsh
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Yeah, it's a win for everyone. Especially us survival gamers, this is going to be a great year

simple beacon
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I really do wonder how long the hype will last for Palworld though. I have already seen people say they are done! LOL I was watching my favorite Normally Ark tuber and you could tell the game is not doing it for him.
I am waiting on Enshrouded. Palworld is just not my type of game so I wait. fell_salute fell_justright Cub_yes

peak marsh
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Yeah, personally I'm just not big on the collect-a-thon mechanics of games like Pokemon, the skill tree in Enshrouded speaks to me more

dusk bluff
still adder
tepid wadi
peak marsh
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More choice is more better

limpid kernel
queen mango
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No water

solid vigil
short sail
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Going forward. deercat_sadthumbs Always buildin'.

rapid yoke
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Guys, palworld is in trouble, sell your investment!

burnt spear
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Oop. Moderate downtrend. Dead game. 😱

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That's what we're supposed to say? Yes? Right?

rapid yoke
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Yes

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Something like that

short sail
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I'd better get rid of my shares

rapid yoke
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That is a head and shoulders pattern if I have ever seen one

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Just wait for it to reach a deathcross

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RIP the goat

dusk bluff
west crater
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My friend are all on pokemon

short sail
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@craggy wing What do you think about my castle? deercat_sadthumbs
Got my Inspiration from Wario Land 2... I'm building me a Wario-Castle. fell_hype

craggy wing
peak marsh
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I don't mean to alarm you but your porch is on fire

short sail
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Intended. Duh. deercat_derp

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I tried to get the best angle, so you guys won't see it's just a cardboard cutout

craggy wing
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I suggest we don't take this conversation forward, peeps

obtuse scroll
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Let's leave it off the discord and move on. Any cultrual general statements will be deleted

peak marsh
short sail
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Why do messages here disappear? Will I disappear too? NoOoOoOoOooo!

peak marsh
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You're next deercat_derp

dusk bluff
obtuse scroll
short sail
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You guys forgot one message.

obtuse scroll
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Look at the castle, it was made in Valheim, let's discuss

peak marsh
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Did you build that Tiger thats great

short sail
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Ewww. Mean. Tiger steals my art.

sour stream
short sail
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The chat glitches smh now

obtuse scroll
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LOL that's @short sail's build

short sail
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Who did ping me. deercat_derp

obtuse scroll
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My builds tend to be abstract

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Hmm, I'll look to see if I have any pics of my builds

timber prism
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One more week until we can build Enshrouded bases T_T

peak marsh
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Week heck, I'm building mine in 2 days and some change

short sail
obtuse scroll
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I mean, this isn't the best pic, but it was one of the last builds I did. It's a view from the top of my zen garden building:

peak marsh
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That's a lot of terraforming

obtuse scroll
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It was a community building where I put about 12 rooms inside (and one big one for me) a dining hall, an outside bbq area, a viewing tower next to the building, a dock, a farm, two pens for pigs and chickens, and a mage tower next to it.

peak marsh
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I've posted it before but have you seen my last build? (just don't want to repost if you have)

short sail
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The Wall in the far seems... Funny looking

obtuse scroll
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I've seen a lot of our valheim pics, can't say I remember which one is yours

peak marsh
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The one on the mountain with the dutch style tiered gardens down one side

obtuse scroll
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which wall lol, the tiered one (that was just because raids kept coming in there so had to build it up, if you mean the top area, that's where the windmills and farm were/are...

short sail
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The one on the right side. Might just be rendering distanze why it looks that. deercat_derp

obtuse scroll
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Ahhh, nice! I haven't done a mountain build LOL I have too much bad luck with golems

short sail
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We had just one really high mountain. Me + comrades dug 2 days from base to peak.

peak marsh
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I got lucky and found a small one, the actual mountain biome is just what you see there. Useless for everything but aesthetics

short sail
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Was really funny, we got alotta invasions of dragons. Was epic. fell_love

obtuse scroll
short sail
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I mean... We had a golem at the peak and a silver vein. Felt really earned.

peak marsh
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I hated scouring for silver veins

obtuse scroll
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Silver was not as fun cause the finding mechanic wasn't always very helpful, but I do love the fenris armor

short sail
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Better then copper. For me at least... deercat_derp Or tin.

peak marsh
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Tin and copper felt easy to me. Especially tin since it's always on the coast

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Iron and silver were obnoxious

obtuse scroll
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Lol copper and tin were super easy for me. Tin was always in dark forest along the water and copper you just walked around dark forest and it was laying there on top of the dirt

obtuse scroll
peak marsh
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Only problem was getting constantly mobbed by graylings

obtuse scroll
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And skellies

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And trolls

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Dark forest wasn't friendly lol

peak marsh
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Yeah, honestly it felt more hostile than the later biomes. Swamp you were always on the run or underground in a crypt, and mountains you got attacked but the forest felt like you always had a mob of enemies swarming you like BTS fans

short sail
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The problem for me was... You needed just that much. Iron is completly easy to ignore until plains. Silver you get plenty out of even one vain (70+) - but Copper felt... Dunno. To dug out the entire
ore deposit just killed that much pickaxes.

short sail
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Aaand yes. Trolls, Greydwarfs, Skellies at your ankles.

peak marsh
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Yeah, you really do need a ton of copper, especially for decor

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And boats

short sail
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The decor one is for me the point... 2 bars for one light. fell_cry

obtuse scroll
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You keep needing bronze the whole game because it's used in almost every decor item. It's one of those things, that I wish you could use any metal for decor nails, not just bronze. That got annoying after a while of decorating

peak marsh
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Yeah, like the lamp doesn't need to know I'm using iron and not bronze for nails

short sail
#

A few more insights into the (current) interior of the castle. Please remember that it is still under construction... and yes, it looks like an underground parking garage for now. deercat_derp

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Wonder if that window isn't too big. 🤔

peak marsh
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If you're asking that question, it's perfect

neon sleet
#

The larger the window the more likely flying Squirrels will smack into it thinking its an opening to a clearing.

queen mango
#

The only ore I hated gathering was iron in Valheim

prisma gorge
#

this looks so cute

prisma gorge
tepid wadi
#

I always wished the plains had normal iron nodes underground

peak marsh
#

Yeah, trudging through swamps hoping it might have a crypt wasn't the most compelling gameplay

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Like, it was right up until you found your first island with them. Every time after that it felt like a slog

lost jasper
#

i love the swamp..

peak marsh
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I didn't mind the swamp itself, bring a hammer and everything there goes down easy. It's just the terrain is difficult to navagate and it's random if the swamp will even have them or not

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It starts to feel laborious

lost jasper
rapid yoke
reef bobcat
prisma gorge
simple beacon
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Demos are dangerous! E_ Cub_yes deercat_derp fell_smort 😄

hallow oracle
#

Honestly it doesn't take much for me I think!

chrome plover
hallow oracle
tepid wadi
#

I'll be happy to put Palworld down for a little while so they can sort out some of their performance bugs and stuff.

hallow oracle
#

Yep Biggest problem atm is it not closing down properly in steam and causing you to force close the PC, which I'm about to do because I will be up again in a few hours

timber prism
#

Two more days for Enshrouded HYPE

quaint cosmos
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Soupy, Trolls might hear you building, that's why you are attracting them.

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Valheim talk.

hidden trench
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Trolls are the biggest issue when mining copper, definitely

shy oasis
#

For me it’s not owning the belt

hidden trench
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Wait the belt does something? D:

shy oasis
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You want me to inform you?

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Don’t want to spoil anything

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👀

hidden trench
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You mean like the leather belt, right?

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I don’t mind spoilers like that

shy oasis
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This one

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Increases the weight that you can carry

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Need to find the merchant first

hidden trench
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deadass?

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Next time I play Valheim I’m making that belt immediately

quaint cosmos
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it can't be crafted, but you will find one

hidden trench
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Ahh ok. Isn’t there a belt you can craft tho?

shy oasis
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The merchant spawns in the Black Forest

obtuse scroll
quaint cosmos
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I wanted to be vague about it

rapid yoke
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belt is op

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nerf belt

shy oasis
hidden trench
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I wish I could use a belt as a weapon so I can become the parent I’m always meant to be

obtuse scroll
rapid yoke
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lol

rapid yoke
#

The froghopping with resources

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was so dumb

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Literally faster than the wagon though

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Wagon system bad

shy oasis
#

Me using that in the forest almost made my friends burn me on a pyre

obtuse scroll
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Wagon was useful only on the mountain, you put all the silver in it, then push it off an edge to get it to the bottom

rapid yoke
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Very true Tiger

rapid yoke
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If you could reasonably make good roads then wagon fine

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but omg the road system bad too

obtuse scroll
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I hated that everything was squares except for the rode and farming circles. Like, why, WHY!!

shy oasis
#

Valheim still good Game

obtuse scroll
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Oh no, I love Valheim, it just has annoying things

shy oasis
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Of course

rapid yoke
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Valheim is a fine game

obtuse scroll
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Although, Enshrouded uses the circle too O.O

shy oasis
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My friend played it for the first time on the weekend and almost went crazy trying to build a small house

rapid yoke
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It's above average

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Home building is so fun

shy oasis
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🌚

rapid yoke
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Strangely no, I was honestly looking

shy oasis
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You took long to reply lol

rapid yoke
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This is one of the last things I was working on

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and it was waaaay early in the build too

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I had done so much more to it

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never took photos, just streamed it for my game group a few times

shy oasis
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I mean it’s something

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It’s crazy to see some of the structures that people come up with

short sail
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Well... I would need ideas to decor the interior of my castle later on. But I guess first I should make it stop looking like a underground parking garage. deercat_derp

placid lion
queen mango
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This was one of the last things I made in Valheim, back in early 2021. Wish I had taken better shots

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meant to be a lake house

short sail
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My last lake has tried to eaten my basement. But its fell_justright

queen mango
#

Basements are meant to be a bit dank, eh?

short sail
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I could swim in it if stormy.

queen mango
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Surprise pool

short sail
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More of surprisingly dunk your head at the ceiling

placid lion
#

if only it doesnt take forever to do the detailing. but alas, im pretty happy with the basic shape of this outpost near the swamp

queen mango
placid lion
#

for sure. honestly very excited to get my hands on it

placid lion
rapid yoke
shy oasis
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LOL

short sail
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Cruel. fell_cry

queen mango
#

🎶 Gotta Eat 'Em All, Po-ke-mon! 🎶

frank canopy
misty isle
#

Longshot, but any other wrestling fans here? or fans of wrestling games? we get WWE2k24 announcements today!

dusk bluff
#

@rapid yoke this is why palworld numbers are declining they can't log in

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Looks like they are suffering from success

shy oasis
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Good for them 🙂

dusk bluff
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It makes sense. Who thinks their game will have 1.3m concurrent players at EA lunch lol

dusk bluff
ebon solar
#

Yeah reminds me of New world as well. I kinda wonder how enshrouded will do now. People are playing palworld now which was a diamond in the rough, compared to this game which was showcased and demoed in November.

dusk bluff
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It is crazy what shipped on the release of new world. We reported how easy it was to duplicate gold and items in the alpha and they didn't fix it. We also reported the invincibility and refund of crafting material.

ebon solar
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The servers stability on wars were far more important too, they didn't care.

mighty robin
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I helped launch new world. 😜

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(The creator campaigns)

dusk bluff
ebon solar
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Yeah I lost everfall and we had it for the first 2 weeks

dusk bluff
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Don't forget 1 shot hatchet

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Go farm the boars, then 1 shot people

dusk bluff
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Like the main campaign ?

ebon solar
#

Needless to say I am going to be disappointed if Keen is salty on the release date and pushes it back. I took Wednesday through Friday off from work.

mighty robin
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My company codeveloped all of the major marketing campaigns for New World

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And still do

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And lost ark!

dusk bluff
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So didn't work on the core just the marketing that's cool!

ebon solar
#

What sucks is that Pal world probably took all the streamers and a lot of the userbase out of the market till they get tired of it. I wonder how many people hoped on that band wagon vs enshrouded.

dusk bluff
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Good time to play enshrouded while they fix palworld

ebon solar
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Was playing it last night just fine with a buddy

mighty robin
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Yeah, people are losing their safe files I think streamers are having a pretty frustrating experience between the server issues, and the save corruption

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Unfortunately, I think that’s gonna turn them away from early access products again because there were a lot of mainstream streamers that picked this game up because it looked fun

ebon solar
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Oh really?

mighty robin
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There were a lot of streamers who haven’t played an early access game in five years who tried this

dusk bluff
mighty robin
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One of the biggest World of Warcraft streamers

ebon solar
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I did business

mighty robin
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Sentiment is definitely turning, people love the game, but they’re going to put it down for a while until it’s in a more stable place

dusk bluff
mighty robin
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I don’t know if you guys remember, but Valheim was a little bit like this, too

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Like it popped off for a week or two and then it went rogue for a bit

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No business, what I’m saying is there are a lot of streamers who picked up Palworld who don’t play any EA products. Even Fortnite streamers and call of duty streamers picked it up.

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So because they had a bad experience with Palworld… I’m worried they won’t want to try enshrouded. At least a week later…

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However, I think once people start showing how much more stable it is and how much more of a complete early access experience it is, that will change

ebon solar
mighty robin
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If I was consulting for Palworld… I would’ve suggested this via closed beta not early access

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Because their product was nowhere ready for primetime

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Or even an open beta… can’t make money on open betas though.

dusk bluff
#

When is peak gaming time for China? It must be right now because palworld is at 1.5m rn

mighty robin
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Right now.

dusk bluff
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Yep that makes sense

ebon solar
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I'm just excited for enshrouded. Wish the game release was not 10am lol

mighty robin
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The game has already grossed over $100 million in sales so they’re doing very well and I suspected in the next few weeks and months it will get better and better

ebon solar
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I want to just build while I work remote from home and then explore when I'm off work.

mighty robin
#

But yeah, I’m much more excited for enshrouded even the demos that I played were far more polished than most early access games

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I think people are going to kind of be blown away with how well the game runs and how big the map is and how stable it feels in contrast to Pal.

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I’m sure it will have bugs and issues, but it won’t be anywhere close to the ones these guys have

dusk bluff
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They aren't hosting servers and no pvp so that relieves a ton of issues

mighty robin
#

Not to mention, there are ethical and moral concerns about some of the things that pal has done. they have very clearly major licensing requirements I think inevitably they will end up losing a lawsuit

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But since it’s China, and since a ton of it, it was generated with AI. It’s probably not likely.

dusk bluff
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Oh tbh the whole game looks AI generated haha

mighty robin
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But there’s a real and growing concern within the gamedev community that these ripoff style products are gonna become more and more abundant, especially out of markets like China, who have no legal jurisdiction

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Ultimately, I think it’s gonna come down to the platforms to make decisions about this, but they’re financially incentivize to not care

dusk bluff
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World of Warcraft was already ripped off

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And they made it pay to win

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Since it's a mobile game

mighty robin
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It’s disappointing for sure

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And don’t get me wrong. I’m always excited to see Game succeed, but it doesn’t feel like a real win when it’s a Chinese company that has clearly ripped off tons of other ones.

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It feels a lot like Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl after a deflated football

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I don’t know sports that well that was just an analogy. They came to mind.

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Don’t NFLrage me, sports fans.

dusk bluff
#

I love sports ball!

peak marsh
#

It only means all the more that companies can't skirt by only offering the bare minimum

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The more shoddy quality releases you have with shady business practices and lackluster effort, the more you open the door for a ripoff to come along and eat your lunch

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Case in point, Gamefreak ignored their customer base for years, put out poor quality rehashes with AAA price tags, and brushed off the market demand for an MMO, or at least multiplayer open world version of Pokemon, so Pal came along and filled the void they were leaving

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Another example, Dauntless was a lot bigger until Capcom finally took the hint and released a quality PC version of Monster Hunter, and that became one of their best selling titles of all time

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Successful ripoffs are just the market telling companies what it wants

sullen crane
plain robin
#

I'm confused about the china thing, when you go on their website it says they are from japan, even the CEO is japanese.

sullen crane
#

I love when indie studios do good

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Yes the studio is Japanese

burnt spear
#

Studio can be Japanese while the publisher is from a different country.

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Happens all the time.

sullen crane
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They are indie

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They publisher their own games

next quiver
#

not a real number

burnt spear
short sail
#

Wait. I could work for an US studio from EU...

sullen crane
#

I’m hoping they reinvest the money back into the game

plain robin
#

Yeah to me they are japanese, I really don't know why people think the devs are from china

burnt spear
#

Valheim is a perfect example. Irongate is an issue Dev published by Coffee Stain.

sullen crane
plain robin
sullen crane
#

If we peak 2 million it’s over with lol

plain robin
#

but yeah surprised by how good the game actually is, I'll come back to it in a few months once they fixed most of the bugs and improved the construction mechanic, right now it's horrendous.

short sail
quaint kiln
sullen crane
short sail
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Also, I'm not speaking about my person... It's a general statement about this behaviour... Fully neutral about the topic itself.

sullen crane
#

Calling out racism isn’t against the rules so idk why your tagging that

short sail
#

Calling people racist in general is respectful treatment? Or inherent discrimination?
I'm out. deercat_derp

sullen crane
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Yea please see yourself out.

vagrant garnet
#

You don’t know if people say it cause of racism or simply cause of misinformation

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Kind of prejudice, relax a little bit

neon sleet
#

Chatting about indie studios are we?

#

What the heck is going on

dusk bluff
#

Nothing just ignore

misty isle
#

Yeah, was gonna comment, but the topic is so damn stupid its not worth it. xD

timber prism
neon sleet
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But I just got notified we were talking about indie studios here

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What a f-in lie this discord update is

misty isle
#

We could talk about indie studios.

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I'm looking for 1.2 million for our current project.

neon sleet
#

Roflcptr

dusk bluff
neon sleet
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What even is the project

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Or is that a doen payment

misty isle
#

the funny part is, I'm not kidding xD we're shipping it around to publishers at the moment xD

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for our co-op survival horror game, using blood as a crafting mechanic

neon sleet
#

You enjoy getting that money.

#

Cux that sounds like a difficult pitch XD

timber prism
#

Is the game actually scary?

misty isle
#

to you perhaps 🙂

dusk bluff
neon sleet
#

-lists as horror
-asks if game is scary

misty isle
#

no animals currently, its at the scene of a biological 'thing' (can't say more for spoilers) xD

timber prism
#

Or is like how people try to say lethal company is horror

neon sleet
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It's HORROR
It's entire thing is if the horror aspects are frightening to the individual... then it would be scary

misty isle
#

so its more about creature types, like if you attack creature A with a projectile meant for creature B it can abberate into something far deadlier

neon sleet
#

Say the wrong thing and he aberrates into anerd

misty isle
#

guess I'm glad you're not in the biz, or a person im pitching to then 🙂

neon sleet
#

Oh I can't emoji you

timber prism
#

Sounds interesting

neon sleet
#

Then you don't get my compliment.

timber prism
#

As a horror fan I would probably try it out

misty isle
#

It's still in pre alpha at the moment, the market is very dry with all the failures of last year, and big studios closing

timber prism
#

Depending on setting and graphics

misty isle
#

its dusty until the new financial year

timber prism
#

Is it going to have VR support?

misty isle
#

We're attempting UE5, since our dev cycle should mean by the time it hits.. peoples PC's can handle it.

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but unoptimised UE5 stuff is horrible atm xD

timber prism
#

Haha understandable!

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I wish you luck and I'll cop it when it arrives!

misty isle
#

hopefully, the market for VR is a bizarre one at the moment! 🙂

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the Meta 3 has been a needle mover

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so very keen to see where that takes VR gaming as a whole

dusk bluff
#

Oh god meta3 has been a pita for dev work

misty isle
#

can imagine

#

any particular pitfalls? or just all the new architecture etc?

dusk bluff
#

Getting it setup for a end user

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So many dumb apps, files and drivers. And now his joystick dont register.

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Meta is like have you tried turning it off and on again? YES THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE DID READ THE EMAIL.

misty isle
#

ahh, sadtimes, Ill be honest, mine is wasted on me, my wife/daughter use it for Beat saber... and I've played a couple of shooters, thats it xD

timber prism
mighty robin
#

And they are very good at winning.

river bane
#

@rapid yoke the valheim pics that i tell you some days ago jaja, its not finish Solitude, but im working on it ajjaj

rapid yoke
#

Oh nice man, that's compact!

sturdy otter
#

Sent

timber prism
#

Its not like the company itself is promoting the use of said mods

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Like you don't see modders getting sued over having pokemon mods in Street Fighter 6 for example

misty isle
#

in my experience 9/10 they just send a prefab cease and desist letter and that's enough to scare most people when it comes from legal offices big enough etc

tepid wadi
#

I mean yeah, no one wants to try and take Nintendo's legal team on. Not only are they one of the biggest dogs out there, they're known for shutting things down.

peak marsh
#

And for taking things to the nth degree, like that guy who they sent to prison for life for pirating Switch games

rapid yoke
#

Palworld down to HALF of it's peak player base! Game is absolutely dead now for sure!

distant verge
rapid yoke
timber prism
#

💀

rapid yoke
timber prism
#

Yeah I know. Maybe you are good luck for them. Post again in another 24 hours and maybe the peak is even higher and then we can confirm

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😆

rapid yoke
#

I will trust

upbeat panther
#

Palworld is only here to fill the void until enshrounded comes!

timber prism
#

Yeah. I'm swapping over this week but it was impossible to convince some of my friends to drop Palworld for it

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Unfortunate timing

short sail
#

Consider to ask Palword to drop your friends.

upbeat panther
#

I just got done finishing the beta for Once Human, and got palworld for free. Palworld is ok, but not something I want to play for a long time.

timber prism
#

Its amazing how many cute pokemon can get people to stomach survival games xd

#

Like people who wouldn't touch that genre otherwise are having a blast

#

Once Human was fun

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I hope that game takes off

upbeat panther
timber prism
#

Especially in the pbp aspect

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Pvp*

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I'm not really a fan of prefab base building myself but I really liked a lot of the game system

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I hope future beta tune the boss fights better though bc they were absolute pushovers in this beta version

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Just bullet sponge

upbeat panther
#

Really, I thought the bosses were really easy.

timber prism
#

Yeah. Thats what I mean. Mechanic wise they were really easy and weren't a challenge

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But you had to dump a good amount of ammo into them

upbeat panther
#

Oh I see, I only need about 1k for each boss with steel ammo. Only in LEA I needed 5k ammo.

timber prism
#

Yeah like the first two bosses with the pacing using copper ammo

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Was like not fun xd

upbeat panther
#

The one I hated the most was the spider boss on hard. Like no I don’t want to be poisoned and hit by webs with little dogs and spiders trying to kill me!

timber prism
#

Haha

short sail
#

Dear Diary. Today I tried to do the decoration thingy.

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It's not final, so don't hit me with a bat.

near girder
#

Aside from the obvious issues, Once Human had too many little secrets for my liking. It’s fine for a game to have tricky stuff to figure out, but at least provide some hints to get you there.

rapid yoke
#

That's half the fun!

short sail
#

@craggy wing
Inspired by the good old days of the Game Boy. My Valheim fortress ☝️ up there is even (partially) similar to this castle in some parts of the level maps. In the end I want it to look similar, but not exactly the same... But functional!

#

Now you'll find out where I get my love for shiny collectibles and treasures. I love Wario - and I'm sad that the series has been buried.

craggy wing
#

Ah, I remember you said you liked Wario. I suggested Pizza Tower and you said you don't like the time run mechanic

short sail
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Yea... That mechanic isn't really for me. Ruined Wario Land 4, sadly, for me.

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But hey.

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It makes for an epic front view at least now.

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A bit more close up

sullen crane
lost jasper
shy oasis
#

@rigid ibex

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Dunno if you checked it out earlier

shy oasis
#

My voice went high pitched a lot while playing

rapid yoke
#

Yeah, let's not do ageism here man. Games are for anyone of any age.

azure ether
rapid yoke
#

If people are having a good time, let them have a good time in peace

rapid yoke
reef bobcat
#

19 and got almost 24hrs on it, its a damn good game tbh

reef bobcat
#

Pft, I am 41 and have over 15 hours in it so far.

#

It honestly feels like a Dreamcast era game to me which is why I like it so far. And I don't even like Pokemon games at all.

obtuse scroll
#

Ages aren't important in games. We play what we like no matter what age. There is no judgement here. Please keep all conversations civil. Everyone is entitled their own opinions and game preferences.

drowsy rapids
obtuse scroll
drowsy rapids
median wind
sterile scarab
#

I got bored and decided to speed run Palworld with some QOL cheats like instant crafting and slightly increased movement speed. I've "caught them all", beat all the bosses and have legendary weapons from blueprints. Its a fun game especially the exploration, but Enshrouded has nothing to worry about in the building department. Palworld's building is even worse than Lego Fortnite. They don't even have diagonal pieces, and the snapping, clipping and obstructions are really bad. It has made me even more keen to get going on Enshrouded!

rapid yoke
sterile scarab
#

No diagonal roof tiles is going to suck though

obtuse scroll
sterile scarab
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I watched a video that show all the building pieces that were in the demo but they didnt cover corners on roofs.

quartz plume
short sail
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No. He was accused being one

short sail
shy oasis
shy oasis
short sail
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One who recently joined thought that Adall was speaking on behalf of Mods or CMs

hollow barn
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Adam and speaking for mods/Cms xD

shy oasis
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I told him before, he’s like a mod

short sail
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Unbelievable, because I'm speaking already on behalf of the community. deercat_derp

candid quiver
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He is no longer Vadfalls?!, thats loosing all authority sorry ^^

steady night
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God, 27h 34m left.... it's about time... I played over 200hs (over the last weeks) Conan Exile just to kill time 😄

balmy wadi
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People are pretty "overhypted" imho

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I´m curious which of my 2024 Early Access favorite will make it: Enshrouded, Pax Dei or Nightingale. Really looking fwd to get my hands on EACH 🫨

steady night
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Pax Dei killed my hype after they said they want a subscription model like ESO

scenic tide
slow lichen
hollow barn
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You can also just wait for a while and then buy Enshrouded

steady night
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I am not a fan of f2p. F2p = "Welcome cheaters/hakers! U got banned? NP! Just create a new Acc!" But for me, I like to buy everything once. Even if I have to pay for my house/ground. I don't like the Idea that I lose my house just bc I don't play for a while. If I don't play, why should I let the sub run

balmy wadi
scenic tide
balmy wadi
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Imho from what I know PD is the the MMO evolution step I really waited for since ARK came out....its exactly the kind of mix the genre needs and I really hope they dont mess it up

scenic tide
balmy wadi
balmy wadi
steady night
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BUT: It's just my kind of taste. I hope everyone will have fun with PD and I hope the game get it`s success. The Devs seems to be cool

balmy wadi
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TBH I´m not THAT deep into PD.

scenic tide
balmy wadi
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But tbh I,doubt, that yo will lose it instantly

scenic tide
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And iam sure that they want to stay with this model thats what their announcement tells

steady night
balmy wadi
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Flew over it. Well, but there is not any point, that underlines what you stated, tbh.

scenic tide
# balmy wadi

a regular fee for maintaining active player status and in-game plot(s).

wise tiger
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I have to say I prefer to pay a small sub fee than buy-to-win items and zone unlocks etc.

balmy wadi
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Ita also says at several points, that its still not nailed and the monetiuzation will evolve.

scenic tide
scenic tide
wise tiger
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Elite Dangerouns does will by selling expansions every 2 years, and having a very well priced cosmetic store they have been going 10 years now and the game is still a lot of fun. There is no need for a crippling expense for subs etc imop.

balmy wadi
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Right but still I doubt (and thats my personal opinion) they will instantly pull your house down, when you decide to skip a month of subscription.

wise tiger
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But a small sub im defo down for.

balmy wadi
wise tiger
scenic tide
wise tiger
scenic tide
balmy wadi
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...and it would be okay.

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But i really LOVE the idea with the different zones...getting farther away from heartlands making it more dangerous and more pvp also and i hope the subs will help to keep those in game, who want the game to grow and keep out a bit of toxiticity.

wise tiger
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The only MMO that I found that worked vaguely well was D&D as you could earn the igc to buy expansions, even if you did have to run many multiples of the same dungeon. You could really play it free, but a few £££ did open up areas faster, so it was a good compromise.

balmy wadi
scenic tide
wise tiger
balmy wadi
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It was 10€/month. Back when they switched, I found the benefits from keeping it subbed very appealing.

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But havent been in TEAO since ...2018 or so

scenic tide
wise tiger
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Oh I did play elder scrolls for a bit but not enough for the sub. I didnt realise TESO was for that game.

balmy wadi
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A question of taste: Ive NEVER been in ELDER SCROLLS Games. I did not like Morrowind, I did not like Oblivion...but I found "my people" in TESO. I really liked how it did the storytelling (the best in MMORPGs), the graphics where at every time very good for a MMORPG and I really enjoyed how the gameplay and the combat felt.

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BTW. there is no TAB Targeting in TESO...there never was

scenic tide
scenic tide
balmy wadi
balmy wadi
scenic tide
balmy wadi
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Maybe I´m just more the "Fantasy-Game Guy" fell_justright

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Nothing against a night with StarWars, StarTrek or SciFi on my TV...but the SciFi MMO to keep me in is just not released^^

scenic tide
# balmy wadi Sorry, but thats just not right 😅

i played teso for i think 1 and a half hour and played some rogue like class but also used two handed sword just to try. If you are compare it with the single player games its definitely not as free. The feeling was way off for me. For comparison in age of conan you can freely swing your weapon and do "combos" without locking on a target at any time. in Teso thats not the case as far as i have played it.

balmy wadi
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I don´t judge games or gameplay, I did not test myself...even though it´s a very common "fashion"

scenic tide
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there is no collision model

balmy wadi
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Age of Conan is also a very special MMO...played it for 2 yrs or so and well....I loved it

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But I doj´t get the bridge from "TESO is not free enough" to "I loved SWTOR" ...thats so contradictory 😄

scenic tide
balmy wadi
scenic tide
steady night
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My dream Survival-MMO: "Hard science" and style like X4, endless proc-generated systems & planets, and beeing able to land and build bases like NMS, ship-crafting like Starbase, and a photomode like DeathStranding 😄

balmy wadi
scenic tide
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a reworked age of conan would be more than enough for me. Hell just 20-50 thousand concurrent players for age of conan and i would be happy to play it again

scenic tide
balmy wadi
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But I see your point 😉

rigid ibex
shy oasis
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And keep me updated even if it’s in 1 year lol

balmy wadi
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Check out Necesse or even RimWorld if you like the combo of building and dungeon crawling.

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Especially RimWorld...I love how the residents act and what awkward situations happen. But its less crawling than exploring overworld. For ~5€ Necesse for example is a no-brainer.

peak marsh
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Lens Island is another good one for that. Usually cheap too

quaint wyvern
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as it's a screenshot from a different game, I'm posting it here, @autumn sleet , but this was what I did in Valheim like 2 or 3 days after it launched 😄 so I'm pretty pumped to see what'll happen in Enshrouded 🙂

autumn sleet
quaint wyvern
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absolutely! I started with building in Conan Exiles and pretty much knew that these kinds of games are my thing. then Valheim came around and the building, mixed with the ability to mess with the terrain made my brain go pop. now with Enshrouded, after seeing your bridge video and someone making a hobbit-style home, digging into the ground - feel yet another neuron activating in my brain

sterile scarab
spring socket
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I wish Valheim had waterfalls.

autumn sleet
quaint wyvern
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one of the things I like about all the different survival building games is the different ideas and systems that developers come up with 🙂 it's always like "wow, I can't believe this hasn't been done before!"

candid quiver
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Pax Dei lost me when, after being among the first to join their discord,
after they saying 'beta is close, around the corner',
like many months later they release the first beta...

only to mostly let streamers and random picked new members into the beta,
many of us that joined early under the "beta just around the corner" misnomner was not important and didnt get in. =/

autumn sleet
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I still have hope for Pax Dei, but that could be due to all the ex-CCP Devs in the Studio and my eternal love for Eve Online.

candid quiver
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Bad treatment so im not a pax dei fan

quaint wyvern
autumn sleet
quaint wyvern
sterile scarab
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I sometimes cheat in single player games to speed up things that feel like they are wasting my time.

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I also love a good mod

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Starfield modding was more fun than the actual game XD

autumn sleet
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Modding and Console commands aren't cheating in a single player game. Actually hacking the game's code or using 3rd party software would be but still a non-issue in a single player game. Once you go multiplayer and specifically competative multiplayer that's where you have a problem. I just learn to bend the game's rules already in place.

burnt spear
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sterile scarab
sterile scarab
quaint wyvern
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Bethesda games are fun to play through at launch imo, but the real feast begins after the mod tools launch 🙂

shy oasis
sterile scarab
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I did some model hash swapping and recolourng. I filled my ship with custom crew and changed all thier appearances.

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The ship builder was super fun but still had big flaws, like not being able to see the internal layout.

rare owl
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Holy shit 1.8 mill playing while not even weekend lol i hope they not going to release tomorrow the game because that 100% doa no matter how good is the game, and btw i want Enshourded to succed before someone thinks im trolling or something

timber prism
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I hope they do... because I want to play it

rare owl
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And btw first i thought 1 week delay is enough, but Palworld is making a huge impact and not even peaked yet and still the game is out like 3-4 days or more lol and still more people are start playing it

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If Nintendo not gonna release Pokemon and AC on pc after this then they are just *****

timber prism
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@rapid yoke You are a good luck charm. Please remember to post later how much the playerbase is dropping

rare owl
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AC is giga fun game especially playing with you girlfriend if you have or bf

timber prism
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We need to break 2 million

rare owl
timber prism
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It will be crazy if it hits PUBG numbers

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but thats doubtful

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im glad everyone is enjoying the game.. I had way more fun than i thought i would but now i just want to wait for the end game zone to come out when the game releases

rare owl
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I mean, maybe but i doubt but when the game peaked 1.2 mil i thought that's the game ceiling but i was wrong as you see lol

timber prism
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Im hoping they add features like evolutions and hopefully the pvp ends up being good

rare owl
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Evoluiton is 100% i think and pvp too

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And ofc more pal etc

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They can milk the game forever with dlc-s

timber prism
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maybe seasonal pals

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the land isn't big enough for like a 300-400 pals all at once

rare owl
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One thing is concerning about Enshourded the devs don't say any word about the release, they stick to it or what

timber prism
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i mean its obvious that they will right?

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they already set a date

rare owl
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They can easly delay, lot of game got delayed when cyberpunk released

timber prism
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I dont think they will if they haven't announced by now they will

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i hope not..i want to start building a base XD

proven canopy
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They stated in a steam forum that they are not delaying.

warm mist
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The release timing seems unfortunate. But there's room for 2 great survival games in a year 🙂

sleek meteor
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Whats the other one

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@warm mist

sullen crane
timber prism
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Same!

sullen crane
reef bobcat
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Holy shit Universim finally made it to 1.0

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A decade later

sullen crane
spring socket
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It's all downhill from here.

spring socket
#

Oh. Chat moved a lot. My reply is completely out of context. This is awkward.

paper ravine
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Whats taking the player count to a next level is considering its been released on game pass on the same day. I would really love to know about the full count

thin blade
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Gotta wait for that Libeery of Helldivers 2 next month and Nightingale

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up

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Liberty

tepid wadi
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It's shaping up to be a strong year for games. Those two look good, plus Last Epoch full release coming out next month too.

spring socket
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I'd like more info about Light No Fires, but that's probably a while off.

rapid yoke
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I wish nightingale could sell me more

tepid wadi
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The realm card system seems like it has a lot of potential, I'm definitely interested to give it a shot

sturdy otter
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I have nightingale on my wishlist but y'all make me realize I don't know anything about games

tepid wadi
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A leisure activity with rules and and an outcome

sturdy otter
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What's in a game

spring socket
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Stuff and things

sturdy otter
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I love things

copper grail
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Has anyone tried new world recently?

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I loved in on launch, but got boring lategame

tepid wadi
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I heard it's gotten much better, but I haven't popped back in. The equipment level grind killed it for me at the endgame

opaque raptor
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Meh. I left NW about 3 months ago. Game was my life for a while but its lack of responsive devs killed it for me

spring socket
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I've been playing New World for a couple of weeks, It's pretty fun!

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It has action combat and a good crafting system. Admittedly I'm only level 35 or so, I've heard end game isn't great.

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The community has been pretty helpful and friendly as well, not much toxicity.

tepid wadi
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Yeah, the progression for it was very solid. It got a bit repetitive around the 30s-40s, but in general it was good.

spring socket
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That's my experience in the 30s yes, the grind is getting real, haha, but it still feels good somehow.

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Also you can play music, it's an addictive minigame! Just figured that out last night, spent an hour just standing around playing random songs.

tepid wadi
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I love music minigames in MMOs. Back in Archage, I spend an insane amount of time composing music

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The fact that you could actually make the music and play it in game was awesome.

spring socket
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That sounds pretty cool

tepid wadi
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It was pretty neat, the more your leveled it, the more complex music you could play

dusk bluff
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If you launch the game with a game economy/game breaking bug easily reproducible by any player I don't stick around for long haha.

warm wedge
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any rpg games with coop and good graphic?

spring socket
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Baldur's Gate 3? That's a broad question

near girder
limpid imp
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Reign of Dwarf is so good too

warm wedge
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this game is so sweet ngl

sinful anvil
warm wedge
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bro its a pokemon game 😭

upbeat ravine
finite saffron
warm wedge
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its like fortnite-pokemon survival game

mighty robin
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Do....

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Do they know what PullUp means.

warm wedge
mighty robin
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Like.... did they... google it.

warm wedge
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ma and bro scrolled down whole internet and didnt find a one good

spring socket
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Well, probably, this game.

warm wedge
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thats crazy how i just got a new gaming laptop and there no games i would like to play with bros

warm wedge
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waiting this to come out

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its releasing tomorrow

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right?

spring socket
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Yes

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In early access.

warm wedge
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yeah

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valheim in early access too but still an amazing game

twilit token
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I thought that was the official release

spring socket
#

Did you try Grounded?

twilit token
warm wedge
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this game diffently in my list

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but this game sweet too

radiant thunder
spring socket
#

Here's a game I'm looking forward to that's significantly different than Enshrouded, Baby Steps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcpEijrd98E

Play as Nate, an unemployed failson with nothing going for him, until one day he discovers a power he never knew he had… putting one foot in front of the other.

Explore a world shrouded in mist, one step at a time. Hike the serene mountains by placing each footstep yourself, in original physics-based gameplay from the minds behind Ape Out and ...

▶ Play video
finite saffron
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huh surprised that one isn't out yet, feel like I heard about it a while ago

spring socket
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Right??

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This summer apparently, but I'd swear it's been floating around for two years. Ah well.

dusk bluff
spring socket
sturdy otter
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You're a clever observation

sturdy otter
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🤓

dusk bluff
sturdy otter
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Or what

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You're not my mom

dusk bluff
fresh jacinth
fresh jacinth
reef bobcat
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Elden Ring

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Its got Co op when it matters. the best kind

copper grail
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Did anyone here ever play battlerite?

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It used to be so good

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Could just jump right in and play - so easy and casual fun

rapid yoke
#

Palworld MASSIVE drop in player base, game is dying. News at 11!

sullen crane
rapid yoke
sullen crane
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Funny enough with that player drop it’s still the most played game on steam rn

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It be back at a new peak when Asia wakes up

rapid yoke
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As it should!

reef bobcat
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lol someone thought its will be ok to release a mod changing player char to ash and pals to Pokémon. Nintendo immediately sent their lawyers .

shadow hemlock
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I think I did a decent job, I'll be biased

ebon solar
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We maxed our server stats up and then just said HEY this is the last day we we are playing this game tonight. Ready for Enshrouded.

fallow bobcat
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I heard every copy of Palworld comes with a coupon for 5% off any Stanley brand wide mouth stainless steel water bottle

regal hatch
sly stratus
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I had fun with palworld but did feel the desire for individual features to be more fleshed out and to be able to focus more on the parts i wanted to without being speed bumped