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i think the beginning is a little slow in terms of getting your base started but once you have at least 5 pals or so in the base automating stuff, you really start just roaming and finding stuff
having your base attacked also keeps the loop going
Im playing on two dedicated servers atm with different groups of friends but it has been a fun experience so far
Yeah the early game looks really solid for what it is, and these types of games are always better with people to play with , no matter how good or bad the game is.
im hoping to try out the pvp tomorrow
yeah.. i was saying earlier how survival games are always better in groups
I personally can't play them solo
im hoping the pokemon mechanics draw more people into enjoying survival games
Front part of me new castle.

Now for the digging of a cellar.
Let me know when it’s ready and I’ll bring my stuff and move in
Only for rent. 500 coins daily.
Excuse me. Valheim was recently overrun by other Vikings. This drove up property prices quite high. Besides, I have chests full of building materials, but I have to earn a living somehow. 
Odin won’t be pleased. He sent you here to clean out the bosses. Not Runa buisness
Why should I care about Odin? He doesn't care about me either... 
But he watches over you while you play. Ever see that dark hooded figure randomly standing around? That's Odin
You can see Thor too, riding his chariot across the sky during a thunderstorm. True story, next time there's a thunderstorm go outside and look up for a bit
I know. But that does not mean he cares about you. He just stalks you.
Also the Thor one I knew. 
Don't got 2k+ hours with staring in the air. 
Yeah, he is kind of a creepy stalker
I thought first he was a wraith... I've keeping a mile between us up to the plains. Then I recognized that he wasn't as bad
Alot of the hype games like this peak the first weekend and then when everyone no life's the content it goes down alot
Hey, that was mean, I have a life when spring hits....
OMG
We are out peaking apex and valorant
Game of the year !!!
Will we out peak baulder gates 3
You are in the wrong server for "We" 😝 but yes it is a great release for them, I am looking forward to see how it develops during EA
If we peak 1 million players enshrouded might need to delay lol 👁️
I am in the group of we
Im curious on how many people drop it for Enshrouded so I rather not see a delay
seems quite unlikely the way they handle it right now with no hype and all
I doubt it. I think people will drop it regardless once the new game smell wears off (always happens) and Enshrouded will be there as the next game to play
But I don't think Enshrouded will literally make people stop playing
Maybe some will, I think the big numbers are because the survival genre is a little hungry right now, but between Palworld, Enshrouded, and Nightingale that population will spread out and people will pick the one that speaks to them more
I can't see this game having longetivity... I suppose pkm influence is huge so maybe it will.. Palworld
I feel the same way when i think of pokemon games in general
that they don't have longevity but people play them for months
especially with the breeding in palworld it could hit the same vein of players who just want to play to collect all the variants and breed them for the perfect traits to pass down
Playing Palworld on Gamepass and its been pretty fun. It's like they fully fleshed out Craftopia's concept by making your Pals the automation. It's the touch that it needed to be fun.
ye no why would they
He sells black market goods
i mean we just wait and see the road map will be out soon. palworld could do expansion maps like ark and have new pals on each map with new bosses and dungeons with cross cluster
all games have content drought unless its a grindy mmo that takes months just to get to max level with P2W monitazation
also the game will have mods which just opens the game up to unlimated possiblities
Need to activate windows tho 😄 ahahah joke
I refunded PalWorld. The building in it was just bad and if I'm playing an open world, survival, and crafting game I need the building aspect to be fleshed out a lot more. I built a simple two story that wasn't a perfect rectangle and I had to trick the game into getting the roof tiles to work and then the one jog in the building was completely unable to be handled. It's Early Access, so hopefully they'll add more building models but the building still feels really bad regardless. There's more building flexibility with Lincoln Logs.
palworld is actually great big balls to release in the same month
Yeah the building system isn't a great start. There's really no reason to do it either. I built a small hut so I could put a bed in it
Yeah, I built beds for all of my Pals and thought I could make a separate area for the work benches and the Palbox, but no. I will say that all of the Pals and their unique traits are really well done. But part of the Pal System is how they help out around your "base". So not being able to make a nice base was the breaking point for me. I'm hoping that Enshrouded will actually be graded even better due to the comparison between the two games.
ready to kill the queen in the mistlands prob this weekend
then ready for enshrouded!
anything to do in valheim after killing the queen?
level up your skills before approaching the next biome. The extra damage might help. I'm still behind on getting magic stuff in Valheim.
we're already in mistlands roaming nad hitting dungeons there
I only found 2 and its not enough. I feel so behind and my Mistlands are small, so there isn't much in them but pain and suffering.
oof
we just got all the magic benches set up so we got that flying cape thing and some magic weaponry
anyone else interested in Avowed? seems to have a lot of delays and not much info about the game
sounds familiar.. think I looked at it onces.
Yes? I loved Pillars
kinda similar to enshrouded in my eyes, but more like skyrim than valheim. made by obsidian
But it's not looking all that great currently. Another year of polish and it could be something good
yeahhh, supposed to come out this year
I played Outer Worlds and it was fun but not a masterpiece, didnt replay it at all
how bout outward?
I have it wishlisted but havent bought it yet, the raw difficulty is kinda putting me off
the magic in that game is the coolest implementation ive ever seen though
aww.. avowed looks to be 1st person only.. reason I was turned off.
what do you think about cyberpunk? I feel like 1st person lends itself to cyberpunk
some im actually mad at how good palworld is
Enshrouded is now going to have to wait a week
I doubt it will
Also I don't think anyone is necessarily "mad" about it, grats if you're having fun
I meant for me lol
Was hoping for a meme game to hold me over till release now its gonna take all my time lol
Yeah if you're having a good time, keep doing so, Enshrouded will be here
And honestly will probably be even better with early patches
Ah. MB misunderstood. There's an ongoing thing on the Steam boards right now about how they should delay Enshrouded because of Palworld, which is a really silly idea
ohhh I didnt know that hope they dont do that
They wont. Business doesn't work that way
true, I've seen albums do it before but never games
Thing is they've already delayed once so another delay for any reason would look really bad. Also just because the timing may not be perfect for hype isn't a valid reason to delay. If you're always waiting for the perfect time your game will never release
It doesn't really hurt them anyhow, they're planning to be working on EA for the next year, they don't need a day 1 explosion of players to be a success
yeah plus I see this game having a similar release to valhiem
dont see this one being ignored
Nah, they might not get the same day 1 explosion, Palworld just happened to hit right at a time when survival players were starving for a new release
But a lot of those players will play for a week - a month and Enshrouded will still be there
true that
Guys Palworld is falling apart! They've lost ~1/4 of their player base in two days! Dead game!
Wait two more and they've lost 1/2 at this rate!!
Obvious satire is obvious I hope
You're tempting the rage of mercy if not
the constant palworld talk is getting almost as annoying as he constant price asking
I'm enjoying it way too much
it almost feels like a advertisement for the game instead of a other games chat
I love to hear it! my friend is also enjoying it a bit more today
Well back to the ol' then:
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much better
I started playing yesterday afternoon because it caught my curiosity up to then I thought it looked a bit naff but watched a streamer (https://www.twitch.tv/luality) and I bought it and haven't stopped playing I had like 2 hrs sleep last night!
I mean, topic of the chan is literally ... other games 
correct the topic isn't palworld
if only there was a discord dedicated to it. If only
It actually scares me for Enshrouded. This is exactly why I told them they shouldn't delay until Jan.
Palworld has the jump on them and all the Streamers that are into the Survival type games are all playing Palworld and it's going to be hard to get them to play anything else!
🥱
If Enshrouded had launched in November like they planned it wouldn't have been an issue. Even December woiuld have been good but they had to change things for the 4Gb VRam people crying on the forums
If your bored don't read it and watch another channel
I am literally in the palworld discord so I can look at palworld related stuff
lol its just weird how much it's posted constantly here instead of just going to the source
No it's not
It's because we've got nothing from Enshrouded for... 3 days and 14 hours, 19 minutes and 15 seconds!! 
The game is a direct competitor to Enshrouded and it's in the same genra
ima just block it will be easier ^^
I dunno, I feel like palworld might be a flash in the pan, the game has some real limitations from a builder/exploration perspective that really makes enshrouded shine.
Its fun, but will it stick? Who knows
At least the game doesn't stick with you. 
Yeah this is what I hope but it's only the start for the game What I want to see is the comparison to Enshrouded at launch.
Will we get 800k players on the first few days or will we be pushing half that?
Probably half or less, but I was never expecting 1mm sales for this game
I mean, it really doesn't matter unless you're a Keen Games accountant. This isn't the kind of game where health depends on large swaths of concurrent players. The people who don't buy the first week will probably get it off their wishlists over the next 6 months. It'll be fine
Since everyone loves Valheim comparisons, sure it had 1m sales in it's first month, but it also sold another 11m over the course of the next 2 - 3 years. Word of mouth is highly effective if you think in the long run
As long as the game is quality and offers a fun experience, it'll work out in the end
in what time frame?
this game will sell millions imo
yeah i dont need that 🙂
But I don't think it will make waves like Valheim did, for example. Valheim had just the right... conditions to make it big. Actual conditions that are difficult to recreate...
We do not recommend trying to recreate those conditions O.O
Okay, I'll not unleash the next big thing for Enshrouded. Sooorry. 
Devs droping the new pandemic next week to drive enshrouded sales
2 million!
Hitting 2 million in 24 hours!
LOL not going to happen. You'll just have to like the game for itself
I have doubts, but I wouldn't be mad if it did
I just saying... Enshrouded had more followers on Steam 4 days out than Palworld did 4 days out.
Followers aren't everything, of course.
Also, I think Enshrouded has more to offer the builder-type player.
The moral of the story is that the survival/builder genre is a big place with plenty of room for multiple successful games. I wouldn't worry about Palworld and I'm sure Keen aren't either
I think the bigger worry of Keen Games is stability of the game itself. 
Thats the most important thing. Rather than being viral, it's more important to release a stable, quality game and let word of mouth do the rest
That's how I spread my conspiracy's.
The survival builder genre is one of those where the more games the better. Its less about competing and more about offering different experiences. Palworld is a compltely different experience to Enshrouded, so they're not really in competition. 😄
its 3
yes like i said why not go to their discord where they share the news xD
im too busy playing.. i only know about it because my friend posted it in a non Palworld discord
XD
base!
My castle is growing. Well... At least a bit?
Reminds me of the castle build me and another guy did on a dedicated a couple years ago
Nice start
Roofs are always a good move
Especially in valheim
The world needs more stable, high quality conspiracy theories
beat the queen!
just in time
server was about to end in 3 days and enshrouded releases in 3 days
valheim gets super sloppy toward the end
what game?
valheim
oh valheim
reading comprehension
I haven't played since 2021. Waiting for full release
There wasn't mistlands when I played. Just the plains boss
Well there were big trees and skulls and cobwebs, but nothing in them
wtf
You just got early accessed
Is it really that, or is it because I haven't completed enough stuff
not sure lol
I heard it's just walled off/not ready
There's rideable griffins in Valheim?
Cute birb!
Palworld
Oh. Idk what that is
could be never released just a cool scene in background
Because why not
idk the tree's suppose to be important
My guess is it's probably just there to be an interesting skybox
New record for Pal, but i heard here is going to die soon
Nah, it's doing great and it probably will for a bit. Glad for it!
Its surpassed BG3 which is the GOTY of last year, so doing "great" is a little bit "underestimation" lol
"Legally distinct pokemon... WITH A GUN" is honestly a pretty good tagline for a game that doesnt take itself too seriously 😛
single player focused rpg with multiplayer available vs Multiplayer survival game. of coarse it will have more players.
The word great is an underestimation?
Idk, we are talking about being a one of the best or greatest games
For me great is just oke, nothing big
Strange usage of great, but hey, you can be a rare one if you want
Which is still a very niche game
The asian market is super strong on palworld atm
It’s mind blowing, guess they tapped into something. Fun little game, but not sure about the longevity. Played for a few hours and the shine has already started to wear off for me
i hit lvl 32 today and its been pretty great so far
the designs of some of these pals are hilarious
this one is my favorite so far
Palworld is amazing, even if i am playing the earlier not-as-current-as-Steam version on GamePass
Lol while fight with fire pal
Pal use fire attack and burn my all my wooden house🤣
The asian market loves it's collect-a-thons
That number is a little bit outdated lol
2 million peak soon 👁️
They sold 3 million copies in 40 hours that’s 80 million
For a indie game 
I’m so happy for the devs !!
pax dei
Palworld got the business model right, first to market kind of thing. They will profit from that decision. They hit the perfect post seasonal slump for gaming.
That's my take. They're seeing such a surge partially from exposure but in a larger sense because we're coming to the end of a survival game drought
My .02, if valheim was released today it would sell maybe 1/5th of their overall sales made during covid. TIming is everything
If this game would have beat them to release, I guarantee they wouldn't be hitting those insane numbers now
The demo went wild because nothing was out,
Once a lot of customers spend their money on one game, they don't have money for another
I mean, the last solidly large survival game was what, Sons of the Forest? And Ark 2 which disappointed most people because it was basically the old Ark with a new map?
I honestly couldnt tell you, I have played green hell, night of the dead, the long dark and whatever else is in my librabray looking for that fix
Eh, that's a temporary condition though. They may not have the money to get Enshrouded at launch, but given 6 months I'd bet most of the people who wishlisted will eventually have it in their libraries
but who knows what is coming out in 6 months? That is my point. Gamers are fickle by nature
That's why I laugh at the people saying Enshrouded should delay because of Pal, like think long term. A game doesn't need to be viral to be successful
Valheim sold 1m in it's first month, sure, but it sold another 11m over the next 2-3 years. Just make and release a quality game and let word of mouth do the rest
As a long time diablo player, diablo II LOD was played for 10 years by people. The latest Diablo I can't even stomach turning it on
but the hype from the time they released, and all that game glorification on youtube and other platforms created a demand. Gotta get the intial hype in todays market
I mean, that's also my point. This year is going to be great for survival games, that's why the people crying for a delay because of Pal make no sense. You're up against Pal now, you'll be up against Nightingale next month, then Bellwright, then Manor Lords, then Rooted, then Soul Mask, on and on until you're up against Light no Fire
If you're waiting for the perfect time to launch you're never going to launch
Yeah, but market timing is everything. I think we see the same thing, they just missed it by a little.
I mean, the point of hype is exposure and they already did that with Next Fest. They're currently a top 10 most wishlisted game on Steam. The exposure part is done, now it's just making sure the quality is there
Again you don't have to be viral to be successful, you can play the long game and do just as well over time even if you don't hit 1m concurrent on Steam
I'd rather take your dollar today then a potential 1.20 in 6 months. IF they stay on top of this game they have a potential to create a following. Look at some of the people devoting their life to WOW.
I agree with you on most of your points, i just see it as capturing market share now
Well again, I don't see it as necessary because this isn't a live service model where the number of players determines the game's overall success and health. As long as the game ends up being as quality as the demo or moreso, people will eventually come over and try it even if it's not during the first month
Concurrent players are meaningless to a game like this so not having a viral population explosion is just fine, word of mouth will do the heavy lifting
Plus we as customers get blinded by big numbers and viral sales figures. You know what the devs for Valheim expected? 12k at launch, maybe 18k if they did really well. That was their original measure of success. If Enshrouded only sells 50k at launch I'm sure for the team it will still be a resounding win
And I feel like it will sell a lot more than 50k
I agree and disagree. If the market becomes saturated with survival crafting building games, there are only so many dollars to go around. I've played with groups before on large voice platforms and the number of times I heard I want that game but can't afford it... Not everyone is in the same boat. I could buy 16 new games this month and it won't affect me..others can only afford 1 maybe 2, and if the price is high only 1 in a couple of months. There is always going to be new shiny. having said that, I am excited for their release and can't wait to play...just hoping I am not disappointed in the end game/overall game. The demo was awesome
Well, you said it yourself, players are fickle. Of those 2 million who play Palworld this week, by next week half of them will have quit and will be looking for a new game. And sure there's always a new shiney, but people still talk about previous releases that stand the test of time. Going back to Valheim, again they did really well with the viral release and sold between 1-2 million copies during that time. They sold another 10-11 mil over the next 2 - 3 years, well after the hype and in the face of bigger, shinier games
Word of mouth and post-hype sales absolutely dwarfed their viral period
valheim was the perfect model of market timing, creating a moment that people shared, and creating a swell that continued.....Palworld might be a flash in a pan, who knows. Anyway, my wife just told me she is going to leave the house, so I have to go shovel snow. I was procrastinating. Nice chatting with you.
Likewise, remember to bend at the knees
I saw the valheim stats said 5mil first month and 12mil total sales since then.
As Rhoisaad said before. Right game at the right time.
I agree crying for a delay doesn’t make any sense, but you can’t compare Palworld to the other games that are going to come out in terms of competition. Palworld is going to put up the biggest numbers of 2024. A game of this magnitude only comes along once every year or 2. It’s absurd and it’s only rising
I mean, it's not a competition to begin with. The survival genre is a big place, there's plenty of room for multiple successful games to exist
I agree. The more games the better
All I’m saying is, if 2million people are playing/streaming one game, they can’t play another game at the exact same time
You underestimate how many gamers exist
I’m not saying no one will play enshrouded, I still expect people to play it, I’m saying that’s 2m less people out of Xm gamers that won’t be
Palworld is indeed a huge launch right now for various reasons, though note that Enshrouded has more followers on Steam as Palworld pre-launch as well as more wishlists. We just have to wait and see. Hype as with all games dies out in a few weeks to a month or so, what comes after is the important part, yes a huge influx of money helps with a big launch but it is not what makes or breaks a studio in the industry
That also operates under the assumption that the game has to sell all it's copies in the first month in order to be successful. I keep going back to this but Valheim sold 12 million copies. 10-11 million of those were in the 2 - 3 years after the hype died down, fueled almost entirely by word of mouth and not hype. As long as the game is quality and stands the test of time it will do fine
Doesn't mean that you need 2 million people for a game to be considered a success. The metrics of what make a 'successful' game vary widely depending on your expectations, the work put into the game, the cost to develop the game, how sustained the player base is, how many new people purchase versus old people leaving... there's no one 'true' metric aside from what the devs expect and need to make off the game sales, and only they really know what that number is.
We as customers get blinded by big numbers and viral sales figures. You know what the devs for Valheim expected? 12k at launch, maybe 18k if they did really well. That was their original measure of success. If Enshrouded only sells 50k at launch I'm sure for the team it will still be a resounding win
Smart developers don't plan on hype, they play the long game
Yeah, people get stuck on the, 'It sold 5 million copies on day 1' stuff.
That's why most of us are not in the games business xD
Being viral isn't required to be successful unless you're an Activision, Ubisoft, EA, etc where you need to make 500 million in the first week just to cover overhead
That's the beauty of being a smaller independent studio
Yep enshrouded looks like a great game and I expect it to be successful. I’m just venting some disappointment that the game will have its EA spotlight stolen a bit. I’ve been in here for 2 months and pre ordered a gportal server for my friend group, but 1. Gportal is struggling to operate with Palworld and 2. I’m now certain some of my friends that I was trying to get to play Wednesday, won’t be anymore.
I’ll just have to wait until they’re done with Palworld. Lil sad
Look at it this way: You have Palworld to enjoy now, and you'll be able to enjoy Enshrouded right after. It's a net win
Yeppers
Competition has always been good for consumers. I actually love the pressure this is probably putting on GameFreak/ Nintendo
Yeah, it's a win for everyone. Especially us survival gamers, this is going to be a great year
I really do wonder how long the hype will last for Palworld though. I have already seen people say they are done! LOL I was watching my favorite Normally Ark tuber and you could tell the game is not doing it for him.
I am waiting on Enshrouded. Palworld is just not my type of game so I wait.

Yeah, personally I'm just not big on the collect-a-thon mechanics of games like Pokemon, the skill tree in Enshrouded speaks to me more
I give it a few weeks. The solo people/not pvp interested will run out of content and take a break
This goes so hard 😩
Not only this, but the games are all very different, which is even better.
More choice is more better
I hope in enshrouded can I build with water like in Portal Knights I love building with water
No water
haha yes, nintendo asking game freak, "ok boys, no more budget until something good" 😄
Going forward.
Always buildin'.
Guys, palworld is in trouble, sell your investment!
Oop. Moderate downtrend. Dead game. 😱
That's what we're supposed to say? Yes? Right?
I'd better get rid of my shares
That is a head and shoulders pattern if I have ever seen one
Just wait for it to reach a deathcross
RIP the goat
Same here
Apparently it's quite big in China so I guess their peak hours will bring the numbers up alot haha
My friend are all on pokemon
@craggy wing What do you think about my castle? 
Got my Inspiration from Wario Land 2... I'm building me a Wario-Castle. 
Looking good! I like the banners
I don't mean to alarm you but your porch is on fire
Intended. Duh. 
I tried to get the best angle, so you guys won't see it's just a cardboard cutout
I suggest we don't take this conversation forward, peeps
Let's leave it off the discord and move on. Any cultrual general statements will be deleted
It's like one of those Hollywood props xD
You're next 
Only if you get banned like me
It was a matrix glitch, pay no attention and move on
You guys forgot one message.
If you were banned, you wouldn't be able to post. Please just be mindful of the discord rules.
Look at the castle, it was made in Valheim, let's discuss
Did you build that Tiger thats great
Ewww. Mean. Tiger steals my art.
Hi Tigerlillium 😄 It is a beautiful castle
The chat glitches smh now
LOL that's @short sail's build
Who did ping me. 
My builds tend to be abstract
Hmm, I'll look to see if I have any pics of my builds
One more week until we can build Enshrouded bases T_T
Week heck, I'm building mine in 2 days and some change
I mean... Like that? #screenshots-and-art message 
I mean, this isn't the best pic, but it was one of the last builds I did. It's a view from the top of my zen garden building:
That's a lot of terraforming
It was a community building where I put about 12 rooms inside (and one big one for me) a dining hall, an outside bbq area, a viewing tower next to the building, a dock, a farm, two pens for pigs and chickens, and a mage tower next to it.
I've posted it before but have you seen my last build? (just don't want to repost if you have)
The Wall in the far seems... Funny looking
I've seen a lot of our valheim pics, can't say I remember which one is yours
which wall lol, the tiered one (that was just because raids kept coming in there so had to build it up, if you mean the top area, that's where the windmills and farm were/are...
The one on the right side. Might just be rendering distanze why it looks that. 
Ahhh, nice! I haven't done a mountain build LOL I have too much bad luck with golems
We had just one really high mountain. Me + comrades dug 2 days from base to peak.
I got lucky and found a small one, the actual mountain biome is just what you see there. Useless for everything but aesthetics
Was really funny, we got alotta invasions of dragons. Was epic. 
Dragons do love to show up a lot
I mean... We had a golem at the peak and a silver vein. Felt really earned.
I hated scouring for silver veins
Silver was not as fun cause the finding mechanic wasn't always very helpful, but I do love the fenris armor
Better then copper. For me at least...
Or tin.
Tin and copper felt easy to me. Especially tin since it's always on the coast
Iron and silver were obnoxious
Lol copper and tin were super easy for me. Tin was always in dark forest along the water and copper you just walked around dark forest and it was laying there on top of the dirt
It also lined rivers too
Only problem was getting constantly mobbed by graylings
Yeah, honestly it felt more hostile than the later biomes. Swamp you were always on the run or underground in a crypt, and mountains you got attacked but the forest felt like you always had a mob of enemies swarming you like BTS fans
The problem for me was... You needed just that much. Iron is completly easy to ignore until plains. Silver you get plenty out of even one vain (70+) - but Copper felt... Dunno. To dug out the entire
ore deposit just killed that much pickaxes.
Aaand yes. Trolls, Greydwarfs, Skellies at your ankles.
The decor one is for me the point... 2 bars for one light. 
You keep needing bronze the whole game because it's used in almost every decor item. It's one of those things, that I wish you could use any metal for decor nails, not just bronze. That got annoying after a while of decorating
Yeah, like the lamp doesn't need to know I'm using iron and not bronze for nails
Exactly!
A few more insights into the (current) interior of the castle. Please remember that it is still under construction... and yes, it looks like an underground parking garage for now. 
Wonder if that window isn't too big. 🤔
If you're asking that question, it's perfect
The larger the window the more likely flying Squirrels will smack into it thinking its an opening to a clearing.
The only ore I hated gathering was iron in Valheim
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this looks so cute
love valheim, not a huge fan of the swamp
I always wished the plains had normal iron nodes underground
Yeah, trudging through swamps hoping it might have a crypt wasn't the most compelling gameplay
Like, it was right up until you found your first island with them. Every time after that it felt like a slog
i love the swamp..
I didn't mind the swamp itself, bring a hammer and everything there goes down easy. It's just the terrain is difficult to navagate and it's random if the swamp will even have them or not
It starts to feel laborious
🤭 I loved that honestly
the very first time i went to the swamp my experienced friend challenged me to go find turnip seeds with no armor or weapons just avoiding enemies, it was so much fun tbh
Oh it has a demo out
Glad I read chat now. Thanks for the heads up!
Ya!!
Demos are dangerous!
😄
Honestly it doesn't take much for me I think!
I’m very shocked how addicting that game has been. Looking forward to swapping back and forth between that and Enshrouded.
I figure I'll have this done before Enshrouded.
I'll be happy to put Palworld down for a little while so they can sort out some of their performance bugs and stuff.
Yep Biggest problem atm is it not closing down properly in steam and causing you to force close the PC, which I'm about to do because I will be up again in a few hours
Two more days for Enshrouded HYPE
Soupy, Trolls might hear you building, that's why you are attracting them.
Valheim talk.
Trolls are the biggest issue when mining copper, definitely
Wait the belt does something? D:
it can't be crafted, but you will find one
Ahh ok. Isn’t there a belt you can craft tho?
Buy one...not find
I wanted to be vague about it
No
I wish I could use a belt as a weapon so I can become the parent I’m always meant to be
Not even close to OP, you have to make like 10 trips with it still.
lol
True
So true
The froghopping with resources
was so dumb
Literally faster than the wagon though
Wagon system bad
I hate it
Me using that in the forest almost made my friends burn me on a pyre
Wagon was useful only on the mountain, you put all the silver in it, then push it off an edge to get it to the bottom
Very true Tiger
If you could reasonably make good roads then wagon fine
but omg the road system bad too
I hated that everything was squares except for the rode and farming circles. Like, why, WHY!!
Valheim still good Game
Oh no, I love Valheim, it just has annoying things
Of course
Valheim is a fine game
Although, Enshrouded uses the circle too O.O
My friend played it for the first time on the weekend and almost went crazy trying to build a small house
Strangely no, I was honestly looking
Tbh I thought so
You took long to reply lol
This is one of the last things I was working on
and it was waaaay early in the build too
I had done so much more to it
never took photos, just streamed it for my game group a few times
I mean it’s something
It’s crazy to see some of the structures that people come up with
Well... I would need ideas to decor the interior of my castle later on. But I guess first I should make it stop looking like a underground parking garage. 
only natural. go from blocking the shape to detailing for cherry on top
This was one of the last things I made in Valheim, back in early 2021. Wish I had taken better shots
meant to be a lake house
My last lake has tried to eaten my basement. But its 
Basements are meant to be a bit dank, eh?
I could swim in it if stormy.
Surprise pool
More of surprisingly dunk your head at the ceiling
if only it doesnt take forever to do the detailing. but alas, im pretty happy with the basic shape of this outpost near the swamp
Lookin' good!
I can't freaking wait to see what people make with Ensh. I think the voxel system is gonna make for some absolutely epic builds
for sure. honestly very excited to get my hands on it
and thanks, yours as well. still gotta improve my wooden beams game tbh lol
How palworld makes me feel https://www.tiktok.com/@mythicalkitchen/video/7150386128271527211?lang=en
LOL
Cruel. 
🎶 Gotta Eat 'Em All, Po-ke-mon! 🎶
valheim is a super great game for me i hope that enshrouded can beat valheim 😂
Longshot, but any other wrestling fans here? or fans of wrestling games? we get WWE2k24 announcements today!
Eww TikTok!
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@rapid yoke this is why palworld numbers are declining they can't log in
Looks like they are suffering from success
Good for them 🙂
It makes sense. Who thinks their game will have 1.3m concurrent players at EA lunch lol
Reminds of New World
Oh God don't give me ptsd flash backs
Yeah reminds me of New world as well. I kinda wonder how enshrouded will do now. People are playing palworld now which was a diamond in the rough, compared to this game which was showcased and demoed in November.
It is crazy what shipped on the release of new world. We reported how easy it was to duplicate gold and items in the alpha and they didn't fix it. We also reported the invincibility and refund of crafting material.
The servers stability on wars were far more important too, they didn't care.
Everyone cast aoe magic on the cap point and lag the server so they can't hurt us lol
Yeah I lost everfall and we had it for the first 2 weeks
Needless to say I am going to be disappointed if Keen is salty on the release date and pushes it back. I took Wednesday through Friday off from work.
My company codeveloped all of the major marketing campaigns for New World
And still do
And lost ark!
Ohhhh
So didn't work on the core just the marketing that's cool!
What sucks is that Pal world probably took all the streamers and a lot of the userbase out of the market till they get tired of it. I wonder how many people hoped on that band wagon vs enshrouded.
They are having major issues rn so many might take a break
Good time to play enshrouded while they fix palworld
Was playing it last night just fine with a buddy
Yeah, people are losing their safe files I think streamers are having a pretty frustrating experience between the server issues, and the save corruption
Unfortunately, I think that’s gonna turn them away from early access products again because there were a lot of mainstream streamers that picked this game up because it looked fun
Oh really?
There were a lot of streamers who haven’t played an early access game in five years who tried this
Read what I posted above
Looks like my Palworld toon got corrupted...whelp..
WE GO AGANE
One of the biggest World of Warcraft streamers
I did business
Sentiment is definitely turning, people love the game, but they’re going to put it down for a while until it’s in a more stable place
They are used to the abuse though
I don’t know if you guys remember, but Valheim was a little bit like this, too
Like it popped off for a week or two and then it went rogue for a bit
No business, what I’m saying is there are a lot of streamers who picked up Palworld who don’t play any EA products. Even Fortnite streamers and call of duty streamers picked it up.
So because they had a bad experience with Palworld… I’m worried they won’t want to try enshrouded. At least a week later…
However, I think once people start showing how much more stable it is and how much more of a complete early access experience it is, that will change
If I was consulting for Palworld… I would’ve suggested this via closed beta not early access
Because their product was nowhere ready for primetime
Or even an open beta… can’t make money on open betas though.
When is peak gaming time for China? It must be right now because palworld is at 1.5m rn
Right now.
Yep that makes sense
I'm just excited for enshrouded. Wish the game release was not 10am lol
The game has already grossed over $100 million in sales so they’re doing very well and I suspected in the next few weeks and months it will get better and better
I want to just build while I work remote from home and then explore when I'm off work.
But yeah, I’m much more excited for enshrouded even the demos that I played were far more polished than most early access games
I think people are going to kind of be blown away with how well the game runs and how big the map is and how stable it feels in contrast to Pal.
I’m sure it will have bugs and issues, but it won’t be anywhere close to the ones these guys have
They aren't hosting servers and no pvp so that relieves a ton of issues
Not to mention, there are ethical and moral concerns about some of the things that pal has done. they have very clearly major licensing requirements I think inevitably they will end up losing a lawsuit
But since it’s China, and since a ton of it, it was generated with AI. It’s probably not likely.
Oh tbh the whole game looks AI generated haha
But there’s a real and growing concern within the gamedev community that these ripoff style products are gonna become more and more abundant, especially out of markets like China, who have no legal jurisdiction
Ultimately, I think it’s gonna come down to the platforms to make decisions about this, but they’re financially incentivize to not care
World of Warcraft was already ripped off
And they made it pay to win
Since it's a mobile game
It’s disappointing for sure
And don’t get me wrong. I’m always excited to see Game succeed, but it doesn’t feel like a real win when it’s a Chinese company that has clearly ripped off tons of other ones.
It feels a lot like Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl after a deflated football
I don’t know sports that well that was just an analogy. They came to mind.
Don’t NFLrage me, sports fans.
I love sports ball!
Personally I think it's fine. Ripoff Pokemon wouldn't have blown up if Gamefreak was putting the time and care into their own IP. A ripoff can't succeed if the original is better quality in every way
It only means all the more that companies can't skirt by only offering the bare minimum
The more shoddy quality releases you have with shady business practices and lackluster effort, the more you open the door for a ripoff to come along and eat your lunch
Case in point, Gamefreak ignored their customer base for years, put out poor quality rehashes with AAA price tags, and brushed off the market demand for an MMO, or at least multiplayer open world version of Pokemon, so Pal came along and filled the void they were leaving
Another example, Dauntless was a lot bigger until Capcom finally took the hint and released a quality PC version of Monster Hunter, and that became one of their best selling titles of all time
Successful ripoffs are just the market telling companies what it wants
I'm confused about the china thing, when you go on their website it says they are from japan, even the CEO is japanese.
Studio can be Japanese while the publisher is from a different country.
Happens all the time.
It's self published
Cool if they do, though not all indies self publish.
Wait. I could work for an US studio from EU...
I’m hoping they reinvest the money back into the game
Yeah to me they are japanese, I really don't know why people think the devs are from china
Valheim is a perfect example. Irongate is an issue Dev published by Coffee Stain.
Because people are racist lol
or just stupid haha
but yeah surprised by how good the game actually is, I'll come back to it in a few months once they fixed most of the bugs and improved the construction mechanic, right now it's horrendous.
Would you please stop throwing things around like this is really an argument? I don't want to start a debate about this, but calling people racist doesn't make anyone better... 
I went bearish on your head and shoulders TA and picked up some Puts, now the players has doubled from 700k to 1.5m and I’m using food stamps
Just because u don’t think you’re racist don’t make it not racist !!!
I'll just tip @ the rules. #rules message
It's the one with the heart.
Also, I'm not speaking about my person... It's a general statement about this behaviour... Fully neutral about the topic itself.
Calling people racist in general is respectful treatment? Or inherent discrimination?
I'm out. 
You don’t know if people say it cause of racism or simply cause of misinformation
Kind of prejudice, relax a little bit
Palworld already has a Pokemon mod
Full video on my YouTube tomorrow!
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Nothing just ignore
Yeah, was gonna comment, but the topic is so damn stupid its not worth it. xD
Lmao. This is why you don't listen to people who obviously don't like the thing they are talking about
But I just got notified we were talking about indie studios here
What a f-in lie this discord update is
We could talk about indie studios.
I'm looking for 1.2 million for our current project.
Roflcptr
What percent do I get of profits?
the funny part is, I'm not kidding xD we're shipping it around to publishers at the moment xD
for our co-op survival horror game, using blood as a crafting mechanic
Is the game actually scary?
to you perhaps 🙂
Does animal blood work differently from human?
-lists as horror
-asks if game is scary
no animals currently, its at the scene of a biological 'thing' (can't say more for spoilers) xD
Or is like how people try to say lethal company is horror
It's HORROR
It's entire thing is if the horror aspects are frightening to the individual... then it would be scary
so its more about creature types, like if you attack creature A with a projectile meant for creature B it can abberate into something far deadlier
That's just like having an argument with adall
Say the wrong thing and he aberrates into anerd
guess I'm glad you're not in the biz, or a person im pitching to then 🙂
Oh I can't emoji you
Sounds interesting
Then you don't get my compliment.
As a horror fan I would probably try it out
It's still in pre alpha at the moment, the market is very dry with all the failures of last year, and big studios closing
Depending on setting and graphics
its dusty until the new financial year
Is it going to have VR support?
We're attempting UE5, since our dev cycle should mean by the time it hits.. peoples PC's can handle it.
but unoptimised UE5 stuff is horrible atm xD
hopefully, the market for VR is a bizarre one at the moment! 🙂
the Meta 3 has been a needle mover
so very keen to see where that takes VR gaming as a whole
Oh god meta3 has been a pita for dev work
Getting it setup for a end user
So many dumb apps, files and drivers. And now his joystick dont register.
Meta is like have you tried turning it off and on again? YES THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE DID READ THE EMAIL.
ahh, sadtimes, Ill be honest, mine is wasted on me, my wife/daughter use it for Beat saber... and I've played a couple of shooters, thats it xD
Definitely is. I love the immersion of horror vr though. Phasmophobia VR is so much fun
Nintendo might not be able to sue Palworld. but you can bet your ass they will sue creators and modders who make things like this.
And they are very good at winning.
@rapid yoke the valheim pics that i tell you some days ago jaja, its not finish Solitude, but im working on it ajjaj
Oh nice man, that's compact!
Sent
Possible. I think a lot of it would be if the modders would be profiting off of it right? I'm not super knowledgeable about the legality of mods in games especially free ones
Its not like the company itself is promoting the use of said mods
Like you don't see modders getting sued over having pokemon mods in Street Fighter 6 for example
in my experience 9/10 they just send a prefab cease and desist letter and that's enough to scare most people when it comes from legal offices big enough etc
I mean yeah, no one wants to try and take Nintendo's legal team on. Not only are they one of the biggest dogs out there, they're known for shutting things down.
And for taking things to the nth degree, like that guy who they sent to prison for life for pirating Switch games
Palworld down to HALF of it's peak player base! Game is absolutely dead now for sure!
that is because there is not much to do, I put in 20 hours and fully completed my paldeck and got all achievements and did everything the game has to offer. good thing they slapped a early access tag on it, if that is the complete state it is horrible.
I'm being a little facetious, but I can see why you see that.
Where have I heard this before? Oh. From you posting a similar thing ... except this time the all time peak is even higher
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We're just having a good time Ticonz 😄
Yeah I know. Maybe you are good luck for them. Post again in another 24 hours and maybe the peak is even higher and then we can confirm
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I will trust
Palworld is only here to fill the void until enshrounded comes!
Yeah. I'm swapping over this week but it was impossible to convince some of my friends to drop Palworld for it
Unfortunate timing
Consider to ask Palword to drop your friends.
I just got done finishing the beta for Once Human, and got palworld for free. Palworld is ok, but not something I want to play for a long time.

Its amazing how many cute pokemon can get people to stomach survival games xd
Like people who wouldn't touch that genre otherwise are having a blast
Once Human was fun
I hope that game takes off
Once Human was amazing! Im excited for the next beta soon
Especially in the pbp aspect
Pvp*
I'm not really a fan of prefab base building myself but I really liked a lot of the game system
I hope future beta tune the boss fights better though bc they were absolute pushovers in this beta version
Just bullet sponge
Really, I thought the bosses were really easy.
Yeah. Thats what I mean. Mechanic wise they were really easy and weren't a challenge
But you had to dump a good amount of ammo into them
Oh I see, I only need about 1k for each boss with steel ammo. Only in LEA I needed 5k ammo.
Yeah like the first two bosses with the pacing using copper ammo
Was like not fun xd
The one I hated the most was the spider boss on hard. Like no I don’t want to be poisoned and hit by webs with little dogs and spiders trying to kill me!
Haha
Dear Diary. Today I tried to do the decoration thingy.
It's not final, so don't hit me with a bat.
Aside from the obvious issues, Once Human had too many little secrets for my liking. It’s fine for a game to have tricky stuff to figure out, but at least provide some hints to get you there.
That's half the fun!
@craggy wing
Inspired by the good old days of the Game Boy. My Valheim fortress ☝️ up there is even (partially) similar to this castle in some parts of the level maps. In the end I want it to look similar, but not exactly the same... But functional!
Now you'll find out where I get my love for shiny collectibles and treasures. I love Wario - and I'm sad that the series has been buried.
Ah, I remember you said you liked Wario. I suggested Pizza Tower and you said you don't like the time run mechanic
Yea... That mechanic isn't really for me. Ruined Wario Land 4, sadly, for me.
But hey.
It makes for an epic front view at least now.
A bit more close up
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@rigid ibex
Dunno if you checked it out earlier
super cute game
Yeah, let's not do ageism here man. Games are for anyone of any age.
why don't you go play some CUBES
If people are having a good time, let them have a good time in peace
Don't even know what that means, but good on you I guess.
19 and got almost 24hrs on it, its a damn good game tbh
Pft, I am 41 and have over 15 hours in it so far.
It honestly feels like a Dreamcast era game to me which is why I like it so far. And I don't even like Pokemon games at all.
Ages aren't important in games. We play what we like no matter what age. There is no judgement here. Please keep all conversations civil. Everyone is entitled their own opinions and game preferences.
Is this Valheim?
Yes
ty ty
I got bored and decided to speed run Palworld with some QOL cheats like instant crafting and slightly increased movement speed. I've "caught them all", beat all the bosses and have legendary weapons from blueprints. Its a fun game especially the exploration, but Enshrouded has nothing to worry about in the building department. Palworld's building is even worse than Lego Fortnite. They don't even have diagonal pieces, and the snapping, clipping and obstructions are really bad. It has made me even more keen to get going on Enshrouded!
Hate to break it to you about the diagonal pieces in enshrouded
Its different though becasue you have tiny building blocks, That snap and meld
No diagonal roof tiles is going to suck though
There diagonal roof tiles, you're okay. Also corner pieces like a pyramid minus one side.
Awesome!
I watched a video that show all the building pieces that were in the demo but they didnt cover corners on roofs.
Are you a mod now?
No. He was accused being one
Your comment lacks water.
Idk what you mean
Agreed
One who recently joined thought that Adall was speaking on behalf of Mods or CMs
Adam and speaking for mods/Cms xD
I’m joking
I told him before, he’s like a mod
Unbelievable, because I'm speaking already on behalf of the community. 
He is no longer Vadfalls?!, thats loosing all authority sorry ^^
God, 27h 34m left.... it's about time... I played over 200hs (over the last weeks) Conan Exile just to kill time 😄
People are pretty "overhypted" imho
I´m curious which of my 2024 Early Access favorite will make it: Enshrouded, Pax Dei or Nightingale. Really looking fwd to get my hands on EACH 🫨
Pax Dei killed my hype after they said they want a subscription model like ESO
i really liked that they go with that. free to play is just really bad. pay to play + sub is the way for mmo´s
Obviously they are games that have nothing to do with each other, but it is true that the casual player who only has a couple of hours and little money. With the great boom of Palworld it will be difficult for me to abandon it for Enshrouded. And you still have to know the price too.
You can also just wait for a while and then buy Enshrouded
I am not a fan of f2p. F2p = "Welcome cheaters/hakers! U got banned? NP! Just create a new Acc!" But for me, I like to buy everything once. Even if I have to pay for my house/ground. I don't like the Idea that I lose my house just bc I don't play for a while. If I don't play, why should I let the sub run
I appreciate the sub, especially since it is a PvP Game 🤷♂️
because you want the servers to run. They have monthly costs and you use space with you house that could be used by other players instead. Why should it cost no money?
Imho from what I know PD is the the MMO evolution step I really waited for since ARK came out....its exactly the kind of mix the genre needs and I really hope they dont mess it up
they should make the combat more challanging/dynamic and smoother (animations cluncy and stuff) if they nail it it will be very good
Plus...who wants to "live" between houses of dead accounts who finished playing
Did not play and i dunno if I even saw combat sneaking into PD Discord
I dont remember the name right now, but there was a game a few years ago. It had housing, It had a kind of subscription, but the housing run seperate. You paid for the ground and you "owned" it for 3 months. After the 3 months you could pay a few bucks for the next months. So you dont lose your house if you dont play for months
BUT: It's just my kind of taste. I hope everyone will have fun with PD and I hope the game get it`s success. The Devs seems to be cool
Sounds not bad, but PD is going Early Access too, I think nothing in the current state is nailed. Did you have a source, where its been said that -as soon as you cancel sub- your house gets burned down?
TBH I´m not THAT deep into PD.
Yes, just a moment
they did write that you can only own a plot with active subscription
Ah okay...
But tbh I,doubt, that yo will lose it instantly
And iam sure that they want to stay with this model thats what their announcement tells
Flew over it. Well, but there is not any point, that underlines what you stated, tbh.
I have to say I prefer to pay a small sub fee than buy-to-win items and zone unlocks etc.
"will look SOMETHING like this" and they also seem to divide into sub and plot fees
Ita also says at several points, that its still not nailed and the monetiuzation will evolve.
we will have to see but for me it looks like standard subscription it could be that you can only pay the plot fee without the subscription for "active player" status whatever this may be
sure they say it ike that. They want to leave as many room for adaptions as possible. If all go sideways they want to have the option to adapt without the playerbase raging
Elite Dangerouns does will by selling expansions every 2 years, and having a very well priced cosmetic store they have been going 10 years now and the game is still a lot of fun. There is no need for a crippling expense for subs etc imop.
Right but still I doubt (and thats my personal opinion) they will instantly pull your house down, when you decide to skip a month of subscription.
But a small sub im defo down for.
I dont care about DLCs or subs...I´m a Starcitizen Backer 😂
In Shroud of the Avatar, once you stopped playing about 3-5 months after your last login your house imploded and all your items including your house deed etc was sent to your player bank, and when you started playing again you went to the bank found a plot and claimed it. A good system imop.
problem is, game design in pax dei makes it almost impossible not to use some kind of subscription model. Else you would get swarmed by free accounts that take up much needes space for building.
Yes I totally agree, I dont mind paying for a plot etc. A free account shouldnt be able to build imop.
that would be the most humane way to do it. lock the plot and everything on it in a bank and if you pay you can claim a new plot or get the old one if its free
...and it would be okay.
But i really LOVE the idea with the different zones...getting farther away from heartlands making it more dangerous and more pvp also and i hope the subs will help to keep those in game, who want the game to grow and keep out a bit of toxiticity.
I really feel subs are the best way to go in an mmo, none of the gimped pay to play games that your sub for those are ridiculous, im looking at you Elder Scrolls for your sortable expanding bag...
The only MMO that I found that worked vaguely well was D&D as you could earn the igc to buy expansions, even if you did have to run many multiples of the same dungeon. You could really play it free, but a few £££ did open up areas faster, so it was a good compromise.
Tbh...TESO was almost dead with subs. I was there! I saw the empty streets. Making f2p saved TESO. But it depends on the game and how big and how mainstream the devs want it to be. In case of PD I think growing slow and with subs is better.
there is a reason why WoW is still running and other MMO´s are not. Subscription based model is the best for longevity. the devs always have a sort of calculable budget and can handle everything pretty safe.
I dont know that game, I didnt play it was the sub expensive? The reason WoW still takes on huge people is the sub is very reasonable ie £9/month. (No I dont play anymore a long time dead to me), but £5/month sub or something simular doesnt hurt the pocket too much.
It was 10€/month. Back when they switched, I found the benefits from keeping it subbed very appealing.
But havent been in TEAO since ...2018 or so
problem with teso is it was old when it released. I was initially hyped and after seeing first videos and gameplay i was shocked. not even morrowind plays that bad. But thats just me that since age of conan was released never had any love left for tab targeting/cluncy combat.
Oh I did play elder scrolls for a bit but not enough for the sub. I didnt realise TESO was for that game.
A question of taste: Ive NEVER been in ELDER SCROLLS Games. I did not like Morrowind, I did not like Oblivion...but I found "my people" in TESO. I really liked how it did the storytelling (the best in MMORPGs), the graphics where at every time very good for a MMORPG and I really enjoyed how the gameplay and the combat felt.
BTW. there is no TAB Targeting in TESO...there never was
story wise i had the most fun with SWTOR storytelling was never as good as there in MMO´s.
i know that there is no "real" tab targeting but in the end its just that but with an crosshair on your screen. Its doesnt feel like a free and dynamic combat model at all.
SWTOR ...iI bought that, installed it...recognized it has TAB Targetuing and looks like 2005 - that was the worst MMORPG Buy in my life 🤷🏻♂️
Sorry, but thats just not right 😅
the graphic style is not for everyone. Its very "cortoonish" how many people describe it. But it wasnt bad at release. but the tab targeting was for me outweighted by the story and universe at whole star wars is just too good.
Maybe I´m just more the "Fantasy-Game Guy" 
Nothing against a night with StarWars, StarTrek or SciFi on my TV...but the SciFi MMO to keep me in is just not released^^
i played teso for i think 1 and a half hour and played some rogue like class but also used two handed sword just to try. If you are compare it with the single player games its definitely not as free. The feeling was way off for me. For comparison in age of conan you can freely swing your weapon and do "combos" without locking on a target at any time. in Teso thats not the case as far as i have played it.
I don´t judge games or gameplay, I did not test myself...even though it´s a very common "fashion"
there is no collision model
Age of Conan is also a very special MMO...played it for 2 yrs or so and well....I loved it
But I doj´t get the bridge from "TESO is not free enough" to "I loved SWTOR" ...thats so contradictory 😄
best mmo in my book to date. its a shame it isnt played anymore but for todays standard the graphics could take a new touch and i think the lack of marketing + bad free to play model killed it off in the long run + old graphic/engine thus poor performance
It´s because no one knows "Conan"...except maybe the anime detective 😜
its the only mmo with tab targeting that i liked to play and thats just because its star wars. just a big fan. also most of the skills could be used while running and jumping so it was at least somewhat dynamic
maybe
My dream Survival-MMO: "Hard science" and style like X4, endless proc-generated systems & planets, and beeing able to land and build bases like NMS, ship-crafting like Starbase, and a photomode like DeathStranding 😄
such different are ppl...i never liked Elder Scrolls but gave it a glimpse and loved TESO, I love StarWars since the time, when there were only 3 movies (my whole childhood and teen age) and I´m a Trekki since I was 10...but I hated SWTOR from Minute one...
a reworked age of conan would be more than enough for me. Hell just 20-50 thousand concurrent players for age of conan and i would be happy to play it again
my gf also disliked swtor just because of the look. i think many people doesnt like this cartoonish style. on the other hand she loves cell shading games 🤷
I don´t care if its "realistic" or "cartoonish"..thats no criteria for buying my games.
But I see your point 😉
@rigid ibex
I did!...a little. I checked it out after on steam, looks fun! Very similar to Stardew, I'll add it to my wishlist...but Enshrouded is going to steal my heart for quite some time now lol 
You should get it 
And keep me updated even if it’s in 1 year lol
Check out Necesse or even RimWorld if you like the combo of building and dungeon crawling.
Especially RimWorld...I love how the residents act and what awkward situations happen. But its less crawling than exploring overworld. For ~5€ Necesse for example is a no-brainer.
Lens Island is another good one for that. Usually cheap too
as it's a screenshot from a different game, I'm posting it here, @autumn sleet , but this was what I did in Valheim like 2 or 3 days after it launched 😄 so I'm pretty pumped to see what'll happen in Enshrouded 🙂
I have ~600 hours in Valheim and love it but my #1 complaint is we can't tunnel. I'll always hold Valheim in my heart and will 100% be back once Ashlands drops soon, but I think the building system in Enshrouded is just flat superior.
absolutely! I started with building in Conan Exiles and pretty much knew that these kinds of games are my thing. then Valheim came around and the building, mixed with the ability to mess with the terrain made my brain go pop. now with Enshrouded, after seeing your bridge video and someone making a hobbit-style home, digging into the ground - feel yet another neuron activating in my brain
I built a whole village in Valhiem but my god it tanked the FPS even on a top spec PC XD. So hopeful that Enshrouded surpasses the building in Val.
I wish Valheim had waterfalls.
Tough to say considering how graphically intensive Voxels are. That said, the largest issue with Valheim tanking FPS was terrain manipulation. Enshrouded doesn't seem to have that specific issue, from all the digging I did in the Demo.
one of the things I like about all the different survival building games is the different ideas and systems that developers come up with 🙂 it's always like "wow, I can't believe this hasn't been done before!"
Pax Dei lost me when, after being among the first to join their discord,
after they saying 'beta is close, around the corner',
like many months later they release the first beta...
only to mostly let streamers and random picked new members into the beta,
many of us that joined early under the "beta just around the corner" misnomner was not important and didnt get in. =/
That's literally what I do in games, try to "break" it and figure out things nobody else has.
I still have hope for Pax Dei, but that could be due to all the ex-CCP Devs in the Studio and my eternal love for Eve Online.
Bad treatment so im not a pax dei fan
I pretty much always play by the rules of the games and try to build as best I can with that, usually after a couple weeks I'll start checking out youtube and the like to see how people started to bend or go around those rules 😄
I should clarify that I don't cheat/hack or anything of the like, I just try and figure out what the Devs never thought a Player would ever try and do those things to make unique builds happen. I did that with great effect in Forever Skies.
for sure 🙂 you can totally have fun with cheats and the like as well, but that challenge of bending the rules with only your own brain is a super nice experience 😌
I sometimes cheat in single player games to speed up things that feel like they are wasting my time.
I also love a good mod
Starfield modding was more fun than the actual game XD
Modding and Console commands aren't cheating in a single player game. Actually hacking the game's code or using 3rd party software would be but still a non-issue in a single player game. Once you go multiplayer and specifically competative multiplayer that's where you have a problem. I just learn to bend the game's rules already in place.
Starfield need to be modded to be playable in the first place.
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Cheating to get an competitive advantage is the lowest of the low.
It did and the modders did more to help the game in the first week than Bethesda have done since launch
Bethesda games are fun to play through at launch imo, but the real feast begins after the mod tools launch 🙂
That would be dope
I did some model hash swapping and recolourng. I filled my ship with custom crew and changed all thier appearances.
The ship builder was super fun but still had big flaws, like not being able to see the internal layout.
Holy shit 1.8 mill playing while not even weekend lol i hope they not going to release tomorrow the game because that 100% doa no matter how good is the game, and btw i want Enshourded to succed before someone thinks im trolling or something
I hope they do... because I want to play it
And btw first i thought 1 week delay is enough, but Palworld is making a huge impact and not even peaked yet and still the game is out like 3-4 days or more lol and still more people are start playing it
If Nintendo not gonna release Pokemon and AC on pc after this then they are just *****
@rapid yoke You are a good luck charm. Please remember to post later how much the playerbase is dropping
AC is giga fun game especially playing with you girlfriend if you have or bf
We need to break 2 million
Tbh its going to drop sometime, but right now its rising which is sick and kill every game release
It will be crazy if it hits PUBG numbers
but thats doubtful
im glad everyone is enjoying the game.. I had way more fun than i thought i would but now i just want to wait for the end game zone to come out when the game releases
I mean, maybe but i doubt but when the game peaked 1.2 mil i thought that's the game ceiling but i was wrong as you see lol
Im hoping they add features like evolutions and hopefully the pvp ends up being good
Evoluiton is 100% i think and pvp too
And ofc more pal etc
They can milk the game forever with dlc-s
One thing is concerning about Enshourded the devs don't say any word about the release, they stick to it or what
They can easly delay, lot of game got delayed when cyberpunk released
I dont think they will if they haven't announced by now they will
i hope not..i want to start building a base XD
They stated in a steam forum that they are not delaying.
The release timing seems unfortunate. But there's room for 2 great survival games in a year 🙂
I love when indie games do well 
Same!

Dead game
lol
It's all downhill from here.
Oh. Chat moved a lot. My reply is completely out of context. This is awkward.
Whats taking the player count to a next level is considering its been released on game pass on the same day. I would really love to know about the full count
nah you're fine
It's shaping up to be a strong year for games. Those two look good, plus Last Epoch full release coming out next month too.
I'd like more info about Light No Fires, but that's probably a while off.
I wish nightingale could sell me more
The realm card system seems like it has a lot of potential, I'm definitely interested to give it a shot
I have nightingale on my wishlist but y'all make me realize I don't know anything about games
What's a game?
A leisure activity with rules and and an outcome
What's in a game
Stuff and things
I love things
I heard it's gotten much better, but I haven't popped back in. The equipment level grind killed it for me at the endgame
Meh. I left NW about 3 months ago. Game was my life for a while but its lack of responsive devs killed it for me
Yeah that was awful
I've been playing New World for a couple of weeks, It's pretty fun!
It has action combat and a good crafting system. Admittedly I'm only level 35 or so, I've heard end game isn't great.
The community has been pretty helpful and friendly as well, not much toxicity.
Yeah, the progression for it was very solid. It got a bit repetitive around the 30s-40s, but in general it was good.
That's my experience in the 30s yes, the grind is getting real, haha, but it still feels good somehow.
Also you can play music, it's an addictive minigame! Just figured that out last night, spent an hour just standing around playing random songs.
I love music minigames in MMOs. Back in Archage, I spend an insane amount of time composing music
The fact that you could actually make the music and play it in game was awesome.
That sounds pretty cool
It was pretty neat, the more your leveled it, the more complex music you could play
I quit 1 month in. We reported the gold and equipment duplicate, as well as crafting not taking crafting resources glitch during alpha. It took them forever to fix it and even then another lesser known exploit was available to do the exact same thing lol.
If you launch the game with a game economy/game breaking bug easily reproducible by any player I don't stick around for long haha.
any rpg games with coop and good graphic?
Baldur's Gate 3? That's a broad question
Medieval Dynasty, Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, HumanitZ, LoTR: Return to Moria, Palworld 😄
Reign of Dwarf is so good too
palworld is ass
this game is so sweet ngl
But is what people are playing. They want it.
bro its a pokemon game 😭
its more ark than pokemon
#the-tavern message 👈 
its like fortnite-pokemon survival game
bet
Do....
Do they know what PullUp means.
like valheim or son of the forest
Like.... did they... google it.
ma and bro scrolled down whole internet and didnt find a one good
Well, probably, this game.
thats crazy how i just got a new gaming laptop and there no games i would like to play with bros
yeah
waiting this to come out
its releasing tomorrow
right?
I thought that was the official release
Did you try Grounded?

i tried before but i was playing alone
this game diffently in my list
but this game sweet too
Damn u have the same pic as me lol
Here's a game I'm looking forward to that's significantly different than Enshrouded, Baby Steps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcpEijrd98E
Play as Nate, an unemployed failson with nothing going for him, until one day he discovers a power he never knew he had… putting one foot in front of the other.
Explore a world shrouded in mist, one step at a time. Hike the serene mountains by placing each footstep yourself, in original physics-based gameplay from the minds behind Ape Out and ...
huh surprised that one isn't out yet, feel like I heard about it a while ago
Right??
This summer apparently, but I'd swear it's been floating around for two years. Ah well.
I mean it's called baby steps so I wouldn't expect a fast release haha
...dammit that's a clever observation lol
You're a clever observation
🤓
Don't you nerd him
I could be
anything but EOS 🙏
Stardew valley 😇
Did anyone here ever play battlerite?
It used to be so good
Could just jump right in and play - so easy and casual fun
Palworld MASSIVE drop in player base, game is dying. News at 11!
U realize people sleep

This is clearly false information provided by a sleeper agent from the deep Palweb
Funny enough with that player drop it’s still the most played game on steam rn
It be back at a new peak when Asia wakes up

As it should!
lol someone thought its will be ok to release a mod changing player char to ash and pals to Pokémon. Nintendo immediately sent their lawyers .
@alpine sage This is the only good rendition of Pokemon Mansion, GBA soundfont and the LGPE remake did not do it justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFtCQNfbEss
Here's the music that plays while in the Pokemon Mansion on Cinnabar Island.
Oh the memories of running into all those Koffing and Grimer.
I think I did a decent job, I'll be biased
I was left disappointed with how the LGPE version of this song was done, so here's my cover. This is based on the FRLG version specifically, but uses instruments that sound more like the original feeling. (I am not a huge fan of the FRLG verison either).
We maxed our server stats up and then just said HEY this is the last day we we are playing this game tonight. Ready for Enshrouded.
I heard every copy of Palworld comes with a coupon for 5% off any Stanley brand wide mouth stainless steel water bottle
After playing for day
Game look average to me,
I had fun with palworld but did feel the desire for individual features to be more fleshed out and to be able to focus more on the parts i wanted to without being speed bumped