other-games

[ashen garden]

star trek online?

[full acorn]

Wooo the last % has gone from 7 minutes down to 5. Almost done!

It's been more than 5 minutes and it's still says 2 minutes... its like waiting for a bus

[merry moat]

Two will come at once?

[trim yoke]

Best to walk away for 5 minutes, then you can come back to it either being done or at 30 minutes to go

[obtuse scroll]

When it first came out it had some issues, but it's supposed to be better now. If you feel like it, maybe give it a try while you wait for other games.

[lunar flame]

Yuh huh

[tall nymph]

we don't have the new TV's mounted yet so I hooked up our projector so me and my friend could play some Minecraft together.

[tepid wadi]

Aww yiss couch co-op

[marble crag]

cannot believe i packed this man

(feeding the csgo gambling addiction)

[rocky crater]

i just never understood the whole weapon skin thing.

people will buy anything i suppose

[golden forge]

After we finished FFVII Remake yesterday my best friend decided to boot up Amalur Re-Reckoning and man that just reminded me of how boring the combat mechanics are in most RPGs

That game is jank but at least it has care put into its combat mechanics proportional to the amount of gameplay it occupies

That almost makes me think of a possible game where combat mechanics between normal fights and boss fights are completely different

[tepid wadi]

Amalur was definitely meant to be an MMO and got scaled down to a single player game at the last minute

[golden forge]

Like a JRPG where you only have like 50 or so actual turn-based fights, the actual overworld battles are just handwaved with simoler mechanics

Amalur definitely has a lot of those elements yeah

[tepid wadi]

I remember getting to the second major zone and being like "Oh yeah, can't wait for a new biome! New enemies, new areas, let's go!" and then it was the same goblin things, just red and brown. So I dropped it and never picked it back up, heh.

[golden forge]

Oh well

It has very rough edges and the gameplay loop does get stale after a while because there's very little depth in it

The baseline mechanics are solid though

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, for sure.

[golden forge]

If there was better enemy variety and tactics you needed to employ, it would have been pretty good

[tepid wadi]

I enjoyed it up until that point, but then it just kinda hit me like a ton of bricks that I wasn't in for anything new.

[golden forge]

The writing reminds me of Fable almost, and the setting actually had very heavy grim fairytale vibes so that's nice, but it just has some fundamental problems

Of course if you look past that it's not a bad game tho

Also Chakrams best weapon I'm not taking questions

[tepid wadi]

I also played Chakrams, I think they're generallly considered the best weapon

[viscid zephyr]

smalland is great fun alot like grounded give it a try

[slim zephyr]

I second this! Smalland just had an update and it's loads of fun!

[red ibex]

while I wait for Enshrouded...

[timid dagger]

what is that?

[somber valley]

this looks like stop motion animation

[neon sleet]

Why does that look like chibi runescape

[dusty rover]

If it's a game, I might like to play it

[lost jasper]

it looks like the game with the beavers

[red ibex]

its called Noble Fates, absolutely addictive...on steam, on sale too

[red ibex]

noble fates

[plush sinew]

I too play minecraft, except modded and on java edition.

[red ibex]

fantastic little game for $20

[somber valley]

it does look nice

[red ibex]

very addictive!

[rocky crater]

dirty dwarves

[rough drum]

best single player video game ever = Romance of the Three Kingdoms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms_(video_game_series)

[mossy parcel]

a game I'm building 2+ years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlnPYrYjBq4

[timid dagger]

Its private, cant see

[azure vector]

Who’s going to be playing Baldur’s Gate 3 when it officially releases?

https://tenor.com/view/gale-baldurs-gate3-bg3-plenty-to-look-forward-to-excited-gif-19927551

[old saddle]

I'm on the fence

[azure vector]

Get off the fence!! Don’t you know this is a dinosaur park?!?

https://tenor.com/view/electrocuted-just-kidding-electric-fence-pretend-faking-it-gif-16077103

[old saddle]

oh I thought they were trolls, I haven't been called a dinosaur for ages even though I'm old 🙂

[azure vector]

80’s baby here. I’m my old school bus number old.
It’s as old as I thought I’d ever get lol

https://tenor.com/view/42-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-answer-life-universe-gif-11206785

[true roost]

80's baby.....

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-channel-outsidexbox-show-of-the-week-80s-80s-hair-gif-26001277

[true roost]

I don't need memes.....I was there for it in person ...😆

had the best mullet money could buy!

[old saddle]

sometimes I wish devteams would add cashshop to discord. It cost 100 tokens to post a meme or gif. 90 tokens = 1 euro / dollar

[azure vector]

‘81 here.
Had the best bowl cut money could buy

[somber valley]

'86, a mullet survivor as well

[azure vector]

🤔

😮

We should start a group of 80’s baby gamers and stream stuff together

[somber valley]

Ok, but we don't stream sober

[azure vector]

And get canceled our first episode

[somber valley]

You have just convinced me not to do it 😄

[azure vector]

If it’s one thing the 80’s taught us, it wasn’t how to filter our mouths or not take risks lol

[honest valley]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-ragnarok-kratos-kratos-no-nope-gif-27160145

[somber valley]

And it doesn't matter where you grew up

[mossy parcel]

went to sleep. I could see the video as private so I thought others could too as long as you had the link

[timid dagger]

i mean it looks like a good start, keep it up 🙂
yet if you would ask me personally: that building system sucks. but thats just me as I cant deal with conan/rust/ark building system as it just feels so damn bad

[mossy parcel]

Is it more of a free style building system? The system is designed this way because I have base invasions where swarms of enemies come and they can destroy your base. The video left this feature out.

What game build system you like? I'll take a look.

[timid dagger]

well lets say Enshrouded looks like it will have the dream version of building system
but I for example rather have building system like MC, Vintage story, 7 days 2 die has rather than ark/conan/rust style at any day really

but again I might be a rare person on that one

[mossy parcel]

it's been a while, isn't 7 days to die like Minecraft build style?

[timid dagger]

as for me voxel based (is thats how its called?) building gives lot more freedom to players

[storm galleon]

I think most of us are here to get away from the cookie-cutter building systems in most games. I know for me that's why I'm here.

[mossy parcel]

well, that video of building isn't best. most objects you can place anywhere, the snapping feature should be removed from the stairs.

[timid dagger]

oh it somewhat is

to be fair to have voxel style building and free placement mode for stuff like cosmetics, stations, and other stuff like that would be a dream come true to me

[mossy parcel]

the snapping feature is just for platform, walls, roofs and flooring

you can take your grinding wheel, smelter, workbench, ect and build anywhere on the platform, they don't snap, well smelter has to go outside

The build system is inspired by Valheim

oh yea, i think stairs snap because flooring for higher levels snap too and i wanted it to be easier on you to build it right next to flooring

[timid dagger]

ok here is an example what i could not make with system like that just because how limited the roofs and walls are in games with such building system (not built by me)

[mossy parcel]

this is like mini blocks?

very cool building

[timid dagger]

yep, they have the normal 1mx1m blocks and then you can chisel any block to 32x32x32 smaller bits

(game: vintage story)

recently they added support beams that have the 32x32x32x grid snapping (basically you choose 2 points where the beam is made and you can see in this pic how people used it to get diagonal wall stuff (no clue how its named )

and also gives lots of detail

together with microblocks

and normal blocks

[mossy parcel]

yea tying to think how this can work for base invasions.

like for mine, they attack the platform below, if that is destroyed everything above breaks

[timid dagger]

but yeeah I can imagine also it would be a sanity sacrificing effort to make it work with sieges

[mossy parcel]

like in this game you share

if you break the bottom blocks, do the upper ones fall?

[timid dagger]

depends on settings but you can enable advanced physics that makes you have supported blocks

but again I think if your main idea is not building super cool looking building but instead to have the buildings more as protection/fortress I think with a good gameplay loop you can pull it off

[timid dagger]

also for this there is a mod in works that adds catapults that when boulder hits it makes a hole from collision but not like a regular hole as in mc when things explode but rather like realistic one that modifies the blocks around to be microblocks

bgasically holes but more detailed

[mossy parcel]

yea that is cool. I'd have to check out the game and see how they did all of this to geet a good idea.

this is my very first build system. It could use more work.

[timid dagger]

I wish you best of luck 🙂
In short I do see your project having potential 🙂

and also remember you cant please everyone and i would say do what ever makes you happy 💚

[subtle bramble]

This was the home I built for my character in a Conan Exiles RP server 😊🙏

[trim yoke]

Wow

[mossy parcel]

Thanks. I do believe my build system can be a lot better. For a palyable game it's good enough but what you shared does give me some ideas.

[mossy parcel]

This is really cool!

[azure vector]

This is my Pyramid on top of the World in Valheim.
Found the highest possible point on my seed, and just went UP

The mist is so far below you can barely see the frost tips of the high points, and those blimpy tick droppin’ mofos can’t even reach it lol

[subtle bramble]

Thank you 😊

[subtle bramble]

This looks so evil! In an awesome way!

[azure vector]

Thank you 😊
I did the Home Alone emote on your pics cuz DAAAAAAAMN that’s some amazing build!

Also - if you look close I finished most of the bottom half so it’s like a giant D4 waiting for someone to step on it like a Lego lol

[unkempt hatch]

Portal Knights

[full acorn]

Whoop Whoop!

[unkempt hatch]

ty i really wanted something to happen

[full acorn]

I do too 😆

[untold lynx]

it's a house with timber framing, that's the term

[timid dagger]

Oh yep thankyou

[reef bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfuYcAkC_Oo

anyone gonna play it?

[quiet glade]

sorry if this distracts Kall, but I'm excited to see more gameplay of AC6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHGAurMFt00&ab_channel=Ratatoskr

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/hIT1O0BWWKQ

[honest valley]

Imagine, it could have released in the west already if they didnt decide to change things

[azure vector]

Palia stress test tonight!! 5-9pm EST 🥳

[reef bobcat]

interesting

[reef bobcat]

The reveal trailer was the most badass trailer ever

[grand sentinel]

Yea We currently have 2 servers for conan on xbox, i wish i would have had the pc version to be able to mod the game like that. i have built cities on our servers. looking forward to try that in this game.

[karmic root]

lmao its hella broken

[azure vector]

I didn't even get to try it. Their POS login system kept giving me "unknown error" when I tried using my login to download. F that game

[karmic root]

Yeah I kept getting Error Code 0 and everyone shrugs at me lmao

[subtle bramble]

I actually started on Xbox. I have only been playing on PC starting this year. I ran a PvE-C server on Xbox for a while. It was so fun to see how creative people got 😄

[sharp flicker]

See theres some Palia folks here, yea the stress was a bit of a disaster lol they said it was better than the last one but I heard the last one wasn't as bad

[azure vector]

I didn’t even get in 😞
Kept getting “unknown error” when trying to download it.
Glad to see you got to give it a go though.

[red ibex]

meanwhile in blue elf land...

can't wait to do that with Enshrouded, after EA release...

[reef bobcat]

YouTubers got their hands on armored core

[tepid wadi]

Oooo I can't wait to hear what they think

[reef bobcat]

As in the mass of videos are already out

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to watch much youtube until the 1st/2nd

TLDR the reactions?

[reef bobcat]

Really? Odd

It's got good reactions

Some don't like the bland gray environments

Combat fluid that kinda stuff

[tepid wadi]

Im out of the country right now, so most of my day is afk. And so far Ive been to exhausted every night to do anything but fall asleep.

Tbh it would probably have to be universally reviled by them for me to even question purchasing it.

[clear carbon]

they complain about the environment being too gray, but it's not like Elden Ring was that colorful besides the giant yellow tree, wasn't it?

as long as combat is good, people will still like it

[full acorn]

Yeah Elden ring's colours were washed out... the only way I could describe it. Although when you first entered limgrave... 😍 and when you see that tree!

[untold lynx]

nnnfff

[untold lynx]

Elden Ring had some areas that were very heavy in one color, but Limgrave and the general area around it were very colorful imo

[clear carbon]

my point was that it wasn't colorful everywhere, or rather, most of it wasn't that colorful

the grey tones were needed to give off a sense of dread

[untold lynx]

plus if it had all been lush it wouldn't have stood out that much

the contrast is what made it an incredible world

[quiet glade]

My biggest gripe with Elden Ring is that most of the small dungeons don't have worthwhile rewards, while some are nearly build defining. Makes a subsequent playthrough less enjoyable, at least for me.

[untold lynx]

I'm a very casual player in that genre of games (I've never finished my 1st playthrough of ER, I was playing coop and we just went on vacay and fell off it), but I think it's fine? Like, asking a game this dense and bi to also hold high replay value

when you see the conditions under which FromSoft devs labor

like, it's more than I could ever ask

[clear carbon]

well, the different endings are probably the only reason one would want to replay the game anyway, and at that point you'd rather just blaze through everything anyway

[azure vector]

ER was my first souls game. I’ll never forget stepping out into the world, feeling so much joy, excitement, anxiety, and terror all at once.
And like most I went right for the knight on the horse. 🪦
Practically everything was killing me.
Over
and over,
and over…
but it was the challenge that hooked me, the stories, the beautiful open world and environments, the constant fear of what’s around the next bend, and am I gonna lose all my shit again…
I loved it so much I beat it 3 times on PC before buying it on Xbox just so I could play it with a friend 😂- then beat it 3 times so I could see all the endings 🤓
Another favorite thing for me was Elden Ring in-game cosplaying!
I made so many themed characters that we damn near spot on with all the gear hoarding I did.
A lot were Critical Role Vox Machina chars like Grog, Keyleth, Pike, etc…
Did a spot on Guts from Berserker.
And just some of the most bizarre chars that I loved dearly lol

This guy NAILS all the feels of an ER player https://youtu.be/LSyRf8rAjTs

[clear carbon]

good thing ER was your first souls game, then

not sure how far you would have gone in previous Dark Souls

[azure vector]

?…

[untold lynx]

oh man I hated the first one

[azure vector]

Did they ever release the prequel DLC?
I haven’t played ER in about a year now.
Last I saw the PVP arenas were a legit prediction come true, and then there was some teaser artwork for the big DLC that was rumored to release early 2023 🤷🏻‍♂️

[clear carbon]

Dark Souls games can't really be compared with Elden Ring imo: those were far more "scripted", the total opposite of an open world. They were also more grindy than Elden Ring by far in my experience

just a silly comparison, but you're free to skip the initial Tree Sentinel in ER, but you were forced to go against the big boss in the Asylum in DS1

I don't even consider the "boss" in the "intro" of ER since you're supposed to die there

[azure vector]

As much as I wanted to deep dive down FromSoft and their souls repertoire, I did a lot of homework on their previous titles, and never pulled the trigger on them.
Not for fear of the grind or difficulty, just (atm) was and still am a big fan of open world, and after beating the game 6 times, I felt I’d kinda got my fix of souls for a bit.
Now I’m a Valheim and Dave the Diver addict 😂
So that kinda shows my dedication to niching down lol

[ashen garden]

Tried out Black Desert today. Character creation is awesome, battle is easy but havent gotten far enough to know if I like it yet.

[reef bobcat]

It's boring tbh

Those huge crowds everywhere and the button mash combat throw me off

[ashen garden]

I play Dave the Diver for the past 3 days. I love that game.

[azure vector]

Heck yes!!
DtD is the beezkneez!
I lose track of hours spent on that game so often.
Just ONE more dive!

[ashen garden]

I am at the part to kill the big shark in the vortex

[azure vector]

Good luck!!! That thing wrecked my world so many times, I gave up and failed the mission…twice! Lol

[ashen garden]

you need the upgraded sniper rifle and the sleepy hammer I think

[obtuse kettle]

Anyone here played Rim World

[azure vector]

I always tried to keep a spare air can, water scooter, and get my guns upgraded before going into the vortex. But something would always happen that caused me to be short on most of those before going in and being pancaked

[molten pine]

Spider-Man 2 😩

[trim yoke]

Only just finished the tutorial, so around 1500 hours.

[obtuse kettle]

Ha ha ha nice

[ashen garden]

I have to do the limestone area and then also kill the giant shrimp.

[trim yoke]

Currently playing with likely too many mods, but I'm trying to create the ultimate melee pawn. So far she's already wiping out mech clusters and sieges alone.

[obtuse kettle]

Wow

That’s strong

I haven’t messed with mods yet I still want to be the game then use mods

[trim yoke]

Beat the game? Is that a thing?

[merry moat]

There’s currently 3 “endings” but you can play after all of them

[merry moat]

Lol mines more like 5000

[trim yoke]

I know, but I never bother, I play until I get wiped out

[merry moat]

Tbh they are all pretty boring

[merry moat]

How many is too many? 👀

[lunar flame]

0.68

[trim yoke]

Not as many as others, I seen mod lists on reddit that scared me.
Think I'm less than 100, most are QoL or Vanilla Expanded, plus a couple of the Alpha mods.
No run and gun, no CE, though I have considered giving them a go at some point.

[merry moat]

My “QOL only” modpack is about 200 lol

[trim yoke]

Hahahahahaha brilliant. I should load it up and check actually

[merry moat]

Run and gun is very good, you won’t ever go back

CE is like marmite you will ether love it and always use it or just find it annoying and not use it ever again

[trim yoke]

I love marmite! It's even the root of my username

[floral frost]

I tried craftopia out recently ! - decent game to kinda kill time until enshrouded comes out - but the games bugs are p rough in multiplayer

[trim yoke]

I'm waiting on a couple more VE mods to release before I start my next play.
Like I said, I like to play until wipe but try to save 1 or 2 colonists by getting them off map. Use Character Editor to save them, then start a new game using them. On 3rd "generation" of that right now, want to start a VFE Royalty game with my melee goddess when the time is right, unless I accidentally get her killed first, which is likely.

[true roost]

Anyone see the announcement for the new 16 player coop survival game called Codename: Islands? Not much in the trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjXhkoavU_s

[obtuse kettle]

Yeah get build a space ship

[trim yoke]

I know, done all 3, they're just not that interesting anymore.
I have occasionally started the reactor just to trigger some raids, it's often how I get wiped.
Losing is fun!

I honestly watched too much Francis John and got terrible ideas from him for ideas of playthroughs.

[azure vector]

Ooh! Heavy Sea of Thieves vibes w/ the art style.

[tepid wadi]

I get more UE5 fortnite vibes 😝

[azure vector]

Would be a fun idea if they adapted a co-op where you could dive, and run the sushi house together

[true roost]

ooohhhh...that would be awesome!!!

[ashen garden]

I was thinking the same, it would be a perfect co-op game

[azure vector]

Exactly!

[trim yoke]

Dammit, my 2nd colonist just got murdered on a sea ice run while my starter was off raiding a component camp. Makes it worse that they were married.

[merry moat]

I was about to make a very rimworld comment then woops

[trim yoke]

Definitely rimworld.
I mean, my starting guy could use a new lung

[hearty thistle]

Yup, good fun game. mellow unless you want it to be.

[tepid wadi]

@hearty thistle moving the valheim conversation here: I'm waiting for their "difficulty settings" update to do another playthrough, my group is going to try a hardcore hard mode playthrough.

[hearty thistle]

Noice. Dying makes me feel like I failed, so I'm way more careful these days.

[tepid wadi]

We've gone all the way to mistlands on self-enforced hardcore before, but doing it on a hard mode could be fun.

[golden forge]

The OTHER beta I'm taking part in GBVS Rising yeeaaahhhhh

This weekend

[untold lynx]

what

[golden forge]

Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising has an open beta

[untold lynx]

oh, the fighting game, right?

[golden forge]

Yeh

Finally with rollback

[untold lynx]

that's the extent of my knowledge about granblue fantasy

[golden forge]

It's based on a gacha but we don't need to mention that

[untold lynx]

I mean, as long as the game itself isn't one

[golden forge]

Yeah Versus is just a normal fighting game with all the normal stuff

Dlc characters and stages essentially

And actually a long story mode that is updated

So new characters always have a place in the story

Kinda weird! But it works

Really good fighting game, I can def see it popping off with Rollback

[untold lynx]

I am nodding profusely in agreement

to hide the fact that this is the extent of my contribution to this conversation

[golden forge]

OH

Finland isn't part of the GBVS beta

Maybe next time

[azure vector]

Do you have a link or anything?
I’m always down to check out open betas 😃

[golden forge]

It's only for PS4/PS5 but https://rising-betatest.granbluefantasy.jp/en/

[full acorn]

Fighting the Elite 4 in Pokémon BDSP and so far so good! Although just fought flint who uses fire types, who all have moves super affective against water 😮‍💨🙄

[azure vector]

Ahh 😭
Well good for them. PS deserves to hang on to some exclusives.
Especially with all the things Microsoft has acquired lately

[golden forge]

Oh the game is not exclusive

It's coming on PC as well, the beta is just on Sony stuff

[azure vector]

Oh. We’ll still. Good for PS.
I was a PS for life until Halo came out 🥸

Then I jumped the Xbox wagon for “the master race”

Any hype for Baldur’s Gate 3?

[tepid wadi]

My xbox hasn't seen the light of day since Microsoft decided that all their xbox games would also be released on PC

[golden forge]

Naah, I'm kinda tired of 5e. I might look a BG3 but it's not on my list as of now

IF it's like better than sliced bread I'll consider it

I'll just try to play Divinity Original Sin 2 first 😉

[tepid wadi]

D:OS2 is pretty good, I always get super bored around the second act though.

I feel like I "beat" the mechanics, and the story isn't engaging enough for me to continue. I'm pretty stoked for BG3

[azure vector]

Ooh good choice.
You’ll love DOS2.
I loved it so much I bought it for Xbox and PC to play with friends.
So best way I can describe what I think BG3 will be like is Divinity 2 on crack 🥸
Twice the size. 10x’s more options. 200% more dialogue. Over 600+ spells…
And what I love about Larian - the replay ability.
You could play an entire campaign, start over, and get an entirely different story all the way through next time.

[untold lynx]

I think Fort Joy as a first setting kind of hurt DOS2's replayability

it's an easy 20-30 hours, it takes the wind right out of my sails when I start over

[azure vector]

@golden forge - What’s currently on your hype list?

[azure vector]

Yay for the hype 🥳

[azure vector]

Ooh snap! Great point. That was a big buzzkill for me as well, making that long grind over and over with replays.

So what I’m doing (lemme get the elevator door for you so I can make my pitch), is looking to get a gang of 3 fellow BG3 players to do a legit full campaign playthrough .
The catch; everyone plays in character - like an IRL D&D game.
So there would be tons of great improv/roleplay and lots of lols and out of character moments.

I hope they have a Dungeon Master Mode like DOS2 did (for PC).
I watched this video of Matt Mercer being a GM for a group of people on YouTube and it was brilliant (and hilarious)

[tepid wadi]

That's actually what my friends and I are doing, without the in-character play. We've got a group set up to start a game that weekend.

[golden forge]

That's just critical role with in Baldur's Gate instead of tabletop

Lit the same thing

It's a glorified VTT at that point 😂

[golden forge]

My current hype list... Kinda empty honestly, I'm not too up to date with video games. Like I'm just waiting for Starfield and Enshrouded to drop these days. Maybe check out Sea of Stars when it comes out, and consider Stalker 2 if it's good

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/not-jealous-at-all-tantrum-kid-gif-11588213

I need to get better at people’ing so I can have fwends too

[azure vector]

It was on oldy in DOS2 w/ Matt and some other YouTuber friends of his.
Was kinda glad it wasn’t the CR crew cuz they certainly get enough playtime with eachother

[tepid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/hew-moran-hew-moran-touch-grass-touch-grass-touching-grass-hew-moran-grass-gif-25539499

[azure vector]

Your list is my list 😂

[tepid wadi]

Remnant 2 is getting great reviews, Armored Core 6 is looking real good too

[azure vector]

BG3
Starfield
Enshrouded

[azure vector]

Yeah I saw that too.
I wanna watch some reviews on R2.
Idk if I’d pull the trigger on AC6 for myself 🤷🏻‍♂️
Never played any prior to it. The only FromSoft game im familiar with having played is Elden Ring and I loved the crap outta that game

[tepid wadi]

Well it's been like 10 years since they released an armored core game, so that's fair.

They've added a lot of new fans since the last one

I've needed a good mech game for a long time

[azure vector]

Like…I wanna get all of the food games lol
But im tired of wasting money on big AAA companies. I’ve been trying to make an effort in supporting indie developers.
Not Keen Games though 😜
Jk

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

[azure vector]

I’ll have to check out more on AC6 on the YouTubes.

Do y’all have a go-to when it comes to gaming news and reviews on YouTube?
I’m a big ForceGaming fan

[tepid wadi]

Force usually has good takes. I also follow Splattercat for some indie love. Mostly I have enough friends into various genres that I hear about new games coming out from them. I'm the lazy news gamer.

[stable chasm]

Just got here, anybody gonna nab Ark ascended? I can't help myself.

[azure vector]

Hey, if you ever decide to make a YouTube channel “The Lazy News Gamer” is actually pretty catchy 😉

[azure vector]

The Vin Diesel game?

[full acorn]

So uh... ummm... after roughly 50 or so revives, I finally got lucky with quick claw and destiny bond. I don't know who thought of "Drifblim toughed it out so you wouldn't be sad" was a good idea for people who use destiny bond... AAAAAHHH! WELL, I could have done that with less revives.

[stable chasm]

No that's ark 2

[ashen garden]

I bought balders gate 3 a couple days ago and got a refund through steam. I don't understand the hype.

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noo-gif-12572306

[somber valley]

Oh Lawd, he's writing an article

[azure vector]

Damn! That sucks. The official release isn’t for another 6 days.
But if playing it legit was not your jam. There’s no reason for anyone to give ya crap about it 🥸
Here’s my theory of Why all the hype.

1. There’s a HUGE world of D&D fans. So Larian and WotC working together was a match made in heaven.
2. Any Larian studios fan knows how amazing Divinity 2 was and knows this is going to be so much bigger and better
3. Make sure to subscribe to my articles @somber valley 😜

[ashen garden]

Turn based, the movement was awkward, I didn't like clicking to a spot and moving my character there, my character talked to herself all the time about what she was thinking and what she should do. Just not for me.

[somber valley]

How much is the sub Steev. I don't know if I can afford all that truth

[azure vector]

The sub is free.
The regrets are expensive.

[somber valley]

You sound like me when i try big games with deep lore and hordes of devoted players

Too late to the party is how I feel

[somber valley]

You should work in advertisement

[azure vector]

I’m too self destructive.
But I was a great salesman in the past lol

[somber valley]

Old habits die hard.
Buy it, or else

[cunning wing]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-scared-scary-sad-gif-26439591

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/stanley-hudson-sales-is-not-hard-stare-the-office-stanley-gif-25817294

[reef bobcat]

Whoever you choose just don't go for skillup

Feels like he REALLY doesn't like armored core

[ashen garden]

Has anyone ever played town of salem 1 or 2?

[trim yoke]

Not I

[red ibex]

yes, still playing this....winter #3....waiting for Enshrouded...

[merry moat]

I believe so yes

[ashen garden]

1 or 2?

[merry moat]

The original I think

Was a long time ago

[ashen garden]

I have started playing 2, it's fun but a lot of cheaters.

[karmic pelican]

I don't quite understand what it is... a new game? A polish of the original?

[ashen garden]

a cash grab

[reef bobcat]

Ark🤢

[trim yoke]

I enjoyed Ark at one point.

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/Go4ykizk_Uo

[rancid jetty]

Vampire Pirates.

[reef bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXhfwoPJfm0 really exited for

hahah ^^

[rocky crater]

drugs

this is what happens

[clear tulip]

ive been waiting almost two years for this pure gold standard of a game

[golden forge]

God, playing GBVS again... It truly tickles my brain the right way

There's literally only one other game that does that: Gravity Rush 2

I think it has something to do with music

Lost Odyssey might also count

Note: Technically two of these games have OST by Nobuo Uematsu

[limpid wasp]

I've been playing Baten Kaitos: Origins again. I forgot the voice work and music were so well done.

[twilit cypress]

You mean spend money on a game I already have a ton of money in because they added things we’ve been begging them to add for years and now want us to pay for it? NO. I’m heartbroken, but they screwed their fans over

[tepid wadi]

I feel the same way, but probably will get it since none of the survival games I'm super looking forward to are releasing for a few months still.

[rancid jetty]

They didn't just screw fans over they destroyed the community in everyway possible. Who in the hell wants to play on servers where snail games patrols them resetting, and banning clans that are going to wipe clans they are friends with? I mean come on that IS NOT how you run a game good lord.

[twilit cypress]

Same boat. I have bought so many survival games that are awful. But I won’t buy that one. Just bought a computer, loved it, spent a ton of money upgrading it, and now I do t even play 😂 I’m impatiently waiting for this game and 2 others to come out

[rancid jetty]

I'm waiting for Starfield, but already made it clear if Bethesda botches this one that's it for me with Bethesda.

[fierce light]

Starfield is more overhyped than Cyberpunk 2077
Feels like it could be the best game ever and people would still complain about something

[rancid jetty]

I keep getting people yelling at me because I have no expectations for the game.

It's literally Fallout 4, Skyrim, and No Man's Sky mashed together in various aspects.

It looks amazing from videos, but the questions are how deep are the mechanics going to actually be and will it work and be fairly stable day one?

[honest valley]

i havent seen anyone overhyping starfield but then again i have basically avoided everything other than the official trailers and stuff they put out

[gentle onyx]

Im hyped but i definitely wont preorder

[rancid jetty]

I have it pre-ordered to play it early so I can be brutally honest about the game.

Everyone needs to remember this isn't a alpha, beta, or an early access title this is a "finished" product they are selling.

[gentle onyx]

So was cyberpunk and fallout 76

I have high hopes for the game but ill have to wait and see

I preordered bf2042 and that will be the last preorder ive done

[tepid wadi]

I'll preorder fromsoft games until they disappoint me. Hasnt happened so far.

[quick mortar]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/670260/Solace_Crafting/

Steam

Solace Crafting

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[rancid jetty]

Just rewatched the Starfield Direct showcase. A shotgun is fired and reloaded and slowed down you can see the cartridges show the shotgun was never actually fired during the reload animation lol.

[rocky crater]

immersion broken

[quick mortar]

unplayable

[golden forge]

I gotta rethink my stance on Baldur's Gate 3

Because I'm experienced enough with 5e that I can probably just play it pretty well with just basic "here's where you do this" sort of thing

Where as D:OS2 requires me to learn all the knicknacks

ALSO BG3 seems to mostly take place WITHIN the city of Baldur's Gate, which is like... Really good for me

I love me a city game

But... I'm worried the game is a little too big

Frick it I'm getting it

[quick mortar]

Yeaaah it is a nobrainer if you like rpgs...

[golden forge]

My problems mainly come from:

1. Game is too long, 174 hours of cinematics is insane
2. I've played D&D 5e for years and am completely over the system
3. The game is massive at 150 gigs, and I don't like that

Basically I had to put it on my external 5tb drive because of that

Which is NOT internal SSD so it will not load fast

[rancid jetty]

Considering Fallout 4 shows the primers being struck after firing, yeah, it's really damn lazy.

[golden forge]

Like my biggest worry is that I'm a busy adult, I just don't have enough time to sink my teeth in a game of this size

[golden forge]

Starfield: Introducing Shotgun 2

There are no hammers, the cartridges are actually just discharged with magnets

[rancid jetty]

In Fallout 4 bullet casings are shown as empty on the pipe revolver you see the primers having the hammer indentation in them there is zero excuse to have the ammo shown to be still in the casing when reloading it's lazy.

Especially considering you can see that stuff so easily in Fallout 4 and they throw together a promo show casing a new product which then makes it look like there is LESS attention to detail not more.

I literally don't care if a cockpit has 1000 lights and interfaces because the blunt honest truth is you can't directly interact with over 90% of them lmao.

[golden forge]

I mean it could just be an individual bug in that specific shotgun that slipped them, not a general thing

Wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility

[rancid jetty]

but the reason they are there is for immersion and asthetics.

[reef bobcat]

Oh come on I can say shit but not that

What the hell?!

150gigs unironically?

[golden forge]

Like I do have the space but man, that's like 1/8 of a PS5 save space 😂

[rancid jetty]

So this is a video about the on going drama I was talking about with ARK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQmRvS2BB7g

[neon sleet]

Yea I haven't even checked to see if I got banned from it lol

[rancid jetty]

Seriously, screw them I'll never buy something with Snail Games attached to it ever.

[neon sleet]

It's surprising, horrifying, everyth"ing" really.

[cunning wing]

Some people figure it out instantly, some people need a major incident to realise. So happy I never gave any of them a cent

[shadow osprey]

ooh boy that's terrifying

[full acorn]

https://youtu.be/ccloZ7l266M

https://youtu.be/XixOLND5cE4

https://www.tiktok.com/@theportalknight/video/7247211756836146459?

[untold lynx]

holy mother of tracking links batman

you can cut everything after and including the ? @full acorn

unless you're really attached to your uuuh analytics

[full acorn]

No I just pressed copy link. That's what it gave me. Here I'll try it out. I didn't know that's why it was so long.

I'm working on it

[untold lynx]

the app gives you tracking links because it is in its interest to track where the clicks are coming from, and what they're coming to

[full acorn]

Oh yeah 100% I tell tiktok not to access my contacts... but they still know 😐

The first two are actually really good trailers for the game.

[cunning wing]

@full acorn Those trailers was awesome, I'm even more tempted to play now. I asked a friend to play with me

[full acorn]

Somewhere there is a link for the PK discord. It's not particularly active these days but for the ones who have stuck around, they are more then capable with helping you out with anything PK related.

[merry moat]

https://discord.gg/9TH8EY27T

[full acorn]

@untold lynx can we pin this? Totally Keen games related.

[untold lynx]

make it one message with both the link and the description, and we'll pin it

[merry moat]

It will expire in 30 days, funky discord things

[untold lynx]

you can tick the thing so it doesn't expire though

when you create the link

[full acorn]

Yeah I'll do it, one sec

[merry moat]

It’s not a community server so the max you can do is 30 days

For some reason

[full acorn]

#other-games message

I'll just edit the message

[untold lynx]

boom

or boon

why not both

[full acorn]

Wooo, the description is actually really good

[cunning wing]

Would be a cool game to play while waiting for Enshrouded, any discount codes? Money's been tight this summer

[full acorn]

Not to my knowledge, but the base version can go on sale for as little as £5-£10. Close to 5 I believe.

Not advocating it for it either and use it at your own risk. CDKeys might have it cheap and I think the second hand physical copies are cheap also.

[cunning wing]

I never trust to buy anything from 4th party ^^

A friend of mine wants to play it too, but she's a student so she's tight on money too

I could earn more money if I wanted, but I'm fed up with my profession so I only do bare minimum hours now

[full acorn]

I totally get that. I mean I like cheese... but the price it is these days 🙄

[cunning wing]

Put it on my wishlist, hopefully it'll be on sale within a few weeks

[full acorn]

Fingers crossed 🤞 can't wait to see if you like it!

[cunning wing]

I'm 99% sure I will enjoy it ^^ And my friend too, she also loves these types of games

[paper rapids]

Best place I've found to look for legit deals on games is IsThereAnyDeal.com. For PK it shows a couple of sites offering 20% off the Steam price and still giving Steam keys, plus some vouchers. See https://isthereanydeal.com/game/portalknights/info/

[neon sleet]

This isnt a community server?

Or u mean different game server?

[merry moat]

Yea the portal knights one isnt

well not as far as discord goes anyway

[red ibex]

not a game, free demo!

https://www.replicastudios.com/blog/smart-npc-plugin-release

with AI smart NPC you can have conversations with! Pretty COOL!!!!

[keen hound]

Would be cool if they were programmed with Random rolls check, so if they like you or not, do they know info on what your asking or not, do they have time to sit and chat, all this could be fun.

[red ibex]

this is pretty revolutionary....

I highly reccomend the free download

[calm sphinx]

F

[tiny marsh]

Portal knights 100% worth the money. I may have like a solid 600 hours or so in it 👀👀

[rotund wave]

https://discord.com/channels/302152934249070593/1135783501740900402

[final dragon]

agree, i play it with my daughter, she like it. Plus it introduce her to some RPG and building mechanichs. Since i reached the MAX level and played the DLCs, i'm on a project to entirely rebuild and renovate the warior guild to - RP mode on - Give back the warior guild his lost glory - rp mode off -

[blazing flower]

PK is my comfort game for years. I have over 1600 hours on steam. I keep building towns! I'm hoping to move to Enshrouded but I'll always be soft for PK.

[subtle bramble]

Happy Yorkshire Day! 👌☕️

[untold lynx]

is that a thing?

[untold lynx]

waiting for the quotation marks to close

that's one long quote buddy

a big part of "game prices are rising" is "game prices had been stable for a lot longer than literally anything else, and inflation hadn't waited for us"

it's more noticeable on a game than on a burger or a drink, but... it's the same nonetheless

games cost more and more to make though, and especially the way companies like EA and Ubi make them

that's unrelated to the question of how much the game costs to make though

yeah, but they're not selling games on the value of the game either

otherwise you'd be paying Stardew Valley and Minecraft a cool couple hundred each

you control the buttons you press, buddy

support whatever makes you happy, that's all you've gotta do

[full acorn]

Oh so this I were it's happening today... that is a lot of text.

To be honest, I don't get games at full price. I can't afford it. But it depends. Will it last longer than a £20 meal or a trip to the cinema. Over the hours of entertainment, is it a lower cost than going out to town every weekend yeah, probably. It just depends what people think value for money is.

But I do also miss the days where you could just put a disc in an play. Now games take roughly a year after release go be in that state. By that time they are usually on sale, so in most cases, sure I'm fashionably late to the party, but the game is usually in a better state too. A win win.

[cunning wing]

Is Ashes of Creation worth getting hyped for? It looks great and all but I'm still on the fence 'bout it. There's a lot of cool things in that game but also a lot of stuff that worries me. For example playing on public servers only in a game where the entire economy is player interactions 🤔

[honest valley]

its still in alpha 💀

[cunning wing]

That has nothing to do with the question. Besides, alpha is a very loose term these days. The game is quite far along in development to the point where the core idea and gameplay design won't change much

[ashen garden]

The Valheim Dev's are back from summer vacay!!

[misty arch]

Aug 3rd times

[ashen garden]

I played it a week ago, was not a fan.

rolling dice, taking turns. Not for me.

[tepid wadi]

I'm glad I'm playing it with some friends, otherwise I can guarantee I'd never finish it.

I tend to get bored of CRPGs

[mossy parcel]

BG3 is a masterpiece and is created by some of the best game dev engineers in the world.

[reef bobcat]

Doesn't matter

That style of game ain't for everyone

[reef bobcat]

Any new updates

Did not see any updates since June 22

[ashen garden]

They said there will be some updates in the next 2 days

[timber prism]

BG3 RPG of the year!

[misty arch]

make sure to delete your saves and uninstall the game before you download the official version

[golden forge]

Is it really necessary? I've already downloaded the rest of the 150gigs

[tepid wadi]

No, you don't have to uninstall

[golden forge]

Yeah I presumed as much

Like, maybe if you have mods or have otherwise altered the files

hmm

last day to play BG3 Early Access

Is it worth it?

Maybe?

I'm gonna be playing with a different character for a while until I can pester someone to make a mod for glasses

Because this character just doesn't look right without big round glasses

That will depend on how Pact of the Blade will work though

Because my number 2 character is a Pact of the Blade warlock with a... Heavy Crossbow

Which might not be a PHB-allowed thing

[misty arch]

necessary, no, recommended by Larian, yes
https://twitter.com/baldursgate3/status/1686386511414169600?t=r9ezyymRukWA_VPB4a6TAQ&s=19

Baldur's Gate 3 re-rolled the D8 🐙 (@baldursgate3)

We recommend players with Early Access installed uninstall the game after deleting their save files.

This will reduce the risk of file conflicts when the final game downloads, and should mean more playing, and no troubleshooting!

We’ll have a full guide for launch tomorrow.

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[golden forge]

Ah fair

Downloading it all again is gonna suck

[misty arch]

yes it is

but its basically going to be a completely new game

[golden forge]

Especially considering it already downloaded the files

[misty arch]

it shouldnt have, they arent doing any pre-downloads or anything like that

[near gust]

Oh hell, I just downloaded the EA today just to get a head start on the larger download.

What a waste of bandwidth. lol

uninstalls

Good thing I don't have any data caps...>>

[misty arch]

This came out yesterday with full details of launch day along with the announcement that you can let your character go full mindlflayer if you want.
https://baldursgate3.game/news/community-update-22-wield-the-power-of-a-mind-flayer_75

[golden forge]

I presumed that's a possibility considering the open-endedness of the premise

I honestly hope we get new deity options like Loviatar in the final

Because man it would be the juiciest way to play my meek wizard girl

Because she has boundless curiosity, especially about darker stuff (she was a death cleric multiclass originally), so being able to turn to Loviatar would be extremely juicy

It's supposed to be a sort of transformation for her

If becoming a vampire is possible (very likely considering one of our first companions), I think it would fit her

But... That depends on when I can get her glasses and maybe a wizard hat at the same time

hopefully a BIG wizard hat

[full acorn]

Harder than Elden Ring! I bet you can't beat it!

[untold lynx]

it does look hella hard

[merry moat]

the hard mode ones are elden ring level in my opinion

[misty arch]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/3655285941429712390

[full acorn]

You have played again some of the bosses in elden right?

[honest valley]

he should try fighting pre nerf radahn

even when i beat him i died

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1844792693723012596/591456BF451F45341DA2398505A11FD74F0B6E08/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[neon sleet]

Or try fighting pre-balance Malenia.
Doesn't even need to hit you to heal.

[tepid wadi]

I beat both of them pre-nerf/balance, it was definitely painful.

[honest valley]

cant remember when i beat malenia

she spins you die

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I basically got lucky and dodged through a scarlet aeonia and got even more lucky and she didn't do it again before I killed her.

I think I banged my head on that wall for about 4 hours? Maybe more

[tall nymph]

finally getting in some Diablo 4 game time.

[reef bobcat]

Dog

[azure vector]

Ooh, Scotch tape 👀

[tall nymph]

I was packing orders for my small buiz lol . I'm running a druid. Didn't make it too far in cuz I have work in the AM but relatively fun so far.

[azure vector]

It’s a great game. I ran a druid poison werewolf. Super fun.
But never finished the campaign and now with the new “season” thing…I’m new to Diablo, so I just put it down for a bit since Dave the Diver came out, and Baldur’s Gate 3 drops in 12hrs 😃

[golden forge]

Oh don't talk to me about pre-nerf Radahn. That guy kicked MY ASS

Today I have a Pathfinder 2e session and then I'm going to download Baldur's Gate 3 over the night, and tomorrow morning... I have work at 7am so I can't play

Then I have work, and then I have work, and then I have work, and then I have a shorter workday, but I'm GMing an RPG session, and then I have a free day... For a few hours I can play Baldur's Gate 3 before I need to go drive for 6 hours to a destination

sadge

I should CYRI BG3 final with my laptop, see if it could barely run it

[azure vector]

If I see ANYONE besides Larian themselves streaming BG3 at 11am EST today, I’m calling BS.
With no preloads, and 120GB…half the world won’t be playing til Friday 😂 https://www.pcgamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-launch-time-unlock-preload/

[craggy wind]

120gb... Holy moly

[rocky crater]

probably a lot of CGI cinematics causing that big download size.

looked good till i actually saw an in-game shot

[true roost]

120Gb though? thats not that bad these days. I mean, if you play wow and download it fresh its 90+GB and diablo 4 is close behind

For me thats start the Dl and go take a shower and a make a sandwich

[golden forge]

I'm yurop so I need to wait until 6 before I can DL

[rocky crater]

wow uses in-game cinematics, made with the game engine

i'm talking recorded stuff not done in-game

wow does have some CGI but not much

[marble fable]

its go time baby

im making a fighter thief, with the haste and momentum gear i think i can attack 6 times in one turn, and between disengage and stealth backstabs i think i can infinite backstab all the encounters lol

what u guys building in BG3?

[golden forge]

Hoo boy, it DEPENDS

[untold lynx]

I need to stop reading this channel right now if I want to finish my work and go check out BG3

[marble fable]

haha

[marble fable]

cmon bro, what u gonna make?

[untold lynx]

love me a thief as well

[marble fable]

yesss, rogue gang

i usually plaqy fighter, ngl.. but the way the rules work with backstab in 5e kind of forces me to go with thief main

[golden forge]

Basically, I have a bunch of ifs

--> If Loviatar is a cleric choice, I'm going with my main, Selena as a Human Dark Urge Wizard, who is meek but really into necromancy, and then into Loviatar as a Cleric.
--> If nun / priestess outfits are a thing, I'm going to make Aria, my Barbarian Cleric, who is kind but goes into DOOM MUSIC when taking damage (i.e rage)
--> If Pact of the Blade can make ranged weapons, I'm going to make Orilia, my Warlock who uses a heavy crossbow and has all the eye enhancements.
--> If none of these are possible, I'm making my Wood Elf Monk Lutharin, who was the first 5e character

Though I would honestly also want to get glasses for Selena, so I might skip her if that's not early in the main game as an item or smth

I have played a little 5e in my time so I have some characters to 'import'

[marble fable]

right on, sounds like you really thought this out haha. monk sounds cool af, its going to be hard to not try all the new classes we have access to now

have to finish one playthru before i make alts

i kind of want to play around with some kind of cha based multiclass, like paladin sorc

[golden forge]

Yeah I'm definitely "Skyriming" this game

Multiple playthroughs, never going thru main story 😉

Even though 17k endings is pretty good

[marble fable]

ngl im just trying to break the game with a solo monster and watch things explode

i wish we could export characters, breaking the game was so fun in bg2

[golden forge]

I mean, 5e is a solved game at this point, unless Bear Barb Druid has been fixed that's still a completely nutty combo for example

[marble fable]

that sounds amazing

and its a wisdom cha build- perception and deception build!

you dip like 2 lvls in to barb for that?

[golden forge]

3 to get subclass

[marble fable]

oh ofc

[golden forge]

Bear totem barb gets resistance to all damage

[marble fable]

you tryna make me roll an alt out the gate, raven

[golden forge]

And you can just keep wildshaping with Druid for temp HP

It's called the Onion Druid for a reason

But yeh, then there's all sorts of BS with fighter polearm master and archery

[marble fable]

whenever i did each of my play-thrus the stats that mattered the most for content was cha for convo rolls and wisdom for perception rolls. i been trying to think of a way to implement both, this sounds amazing

[golden forge]

One insane wombo combo we found was Assassin Rogue + any Paladin

Instacrit to Smite

For bazillion damage

[marble fable]

yea i played with pally, smite is nasty

[golden forge]

Basically a divine assassin type

[marble fable]

you must have to roll it with scimitars to keep it a finesse weap for backstab multiplier?

[golden forge]

Or Rapier

Our rogue mostly used Bow until going for a stealth instakill

Also used sleeping poison for, you guessed it

[marble fable]

yea bow rogue is OP. i killed a 20 pull solo without getting hit

[golden forge]

What else nutty did we have

I mean my Wiz/Cleric was also pretty nutty

5 Dex but compensated with heavy armor LOL

[marble fable]

ppl do crazy out of the box stuff with wiz that blows my mind- i wouldnt have ever thought of some of the ways they exploit scrolls and spells

[golden forge]

I'm a pretty straightforward player, I just made a nutty Wiz/Cleric with heavy armor and super spells

[marble fable]

ppl skipping entire encounters with featherfall and nabbing all the loot

featherfall with jump spell, they jumped across the map lol

[golden forge]

Yeah I can see that

[marble fable]

90%

im about to be ded to the world guys

[craggy wind]

So many beautiful hair styles in BG3. Hair highlights is a nice touch.

[golden forge]

I'll only get to play like... 24 hours from now

But, that will allow for all the silly content I need to know for character creator to come out

[marble fable]

if anyone wanna try multiplayer hmu

[golden forge]

I wasn't even aware that Loviatar is an alternative spelling for Finnish mythological goddess Louhi. As a Finnish person this was the discovery of the day

[near gust]

Most of the TSR era D&D pantheons are like that. There are a few unique gods, but most are esoteric versions of real world mythos.

It's one of the things I actually really appreciate about TSR era D&D.

[golden forge]

Yeah I was aware of Mielikki, but I wasn't just aware of that spelling

Loviatar isn't as obvious

[azure vector]

I’ll letcha know when I’m done with the download

[ember salmon]

Man I'm finished with it but I'm so tired from gaming last night 😞

[near gust]

I'm just having some fun in Tears of the Kingdom until the BG3 download is done. Though...>> I really should get to prepping my Warhammer Fantasy game...

[azure vector]

Does anyone know for sure if uninstalling BG3 EA and reinstalling at time of launch today was how to do it?
I read and followed all of the Steam page recommendations.
When assigning it to my SSD, it said 122.4gb space needed.
But when I hit install it’s been sitting at 97gb 🤷🏻‍♂️
Any ideas?

[near gust]

Downloads are compressed. It'll expand as it downloads.

[azure vector]

I’m at about 2hrs into the DL at about 80%. And I’d rather not go through this process again.

[near gust]

You're fine. Uninstall the EA version. Delete your save files. Then download as usual and you'll be fine.

[azure vector]

Oh? 🤔 ok will keep an eye on it. Thank you.

[marble fable]

supposed to go ingame and delete saves from ingame so it also deletes cloud saves but youll prob be fine

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/XuCfkgaaa08

[solemn forge]

i laugh in ark

ark with all dlc is 400+ GB

[untold lynx]

really?? I had no idea

[solemn forge]

mine is 485

[untold lynx]

how much of this is mods to turn enemies into mudcrabs

[solemn forge]

none, i believe mods are stored in a separate folder entirely

[untold lynx]

485 still seems preposterously large

[solemn forge]

well that's ark for ya

persoanlly i have 6TB of nvme ssd storage in raid 0 so i don't really mind

i've only used about half of my storage plus a seperate 1tb nvme drive for various file storage

so i've used 4TB in total

[azure vector]

So having a full party run around completely nude with the exceptions of boots was a total hoot in BG3 yesterday.
Swords weren’t the only thing swinging 😂

[solemn forge]

any idea what exact day the beta will be open next week?

[untold lynx]

well it's not next week that's for sure

[solemn forge]

thought it was the second week of augest?

[untold lynx]

the important words were currently, hope, and might

[solemn forge]

ah

i don't mind waiting but the hype is real

[untold lynx]

don't hype yourself

hype leads to disappointment

something something the dark side

[solemn forge]

well i was distracting myself with valheim but now my friends are playing BG3

i don't really like games like BG3 so eh

to each their own

i'm looking for more survival games to hold me over

i've already played rust, ark, valheim just to name a few

[quick jolt]

have you played... 7 Days to Die? Conan Exiles? Subsistence?

[solemn forge]

haven't heard of that last one

[quick jolt]

yeah it hasn't been advertised much. single dev, good graphics, fun and difficult (has various difficulty settings too)

[solemn forge]

looks interesting

i think i'll install it on my steam deck

[quick jolt]

it's still at a stage where there's not too much overall late game goals or anything, it's very much like the name suggests... you subsist... as long as you can/want

[solemn forge]

i'm not sure how i feel about it tbh

i may try it anyways due to it being only like $14

[quick jolt]

yeah price is nice

it can end up feeling grindy so if you hate that then maybe don't

I only played it so much because my fiancee and I like survival crafting games together a lot

lots of gathering, crafting, building you can do, but buildings are still a bit limited

but now you can make irrigation systems for your own greenhouses

[solemn forge]

i don't mind a grind if it's reward is equal to the effort given

if i have to spend an entire play session just to get a single item then it better be game changing (i can play for 16 hours straight)

like i said it's only $14 so i'll try it

[quick jolt]

well... it doesn't really satisfy that heh. The grind is for keeping up survival and to be able to build more. There's not really any special loot

yeah might as well try if you can afford it

[solemn forge]

it doesn't have to be a specific item

like as an example

if i spend like 8 hours grinding up for a farm, it better be worth it when i build said farm

[quick jolt]

ahh gotcha

[solemn forge]

the only big red flag for me is that it's been in early access for 7+ years

i get that it's an independant dev but still

[quick jolt]

haha yeah that's fair. Same like 7d2d. At this point I'm not sure what makes them early access vs. just full games that are still updating

[solemn forge]

early access means still in early development

i'm highly surprised that 7d2d is still in early access

i've seen physical copies for consoles

[quick jolt]

they're even still calling every update an ALPHA

it's on like alpha 27 now or something

oh alpha 21

almost 10 year old game lol

[solemn forge]

oof

and i already died to a bear

[quick jolt]

oh. Yes do avoid wolves and bears at first

we played on an easier difficulty because the default is kinda brutal

[solemn forge]

i killed a wolf fairly easily

and i started on the easiest difficulty

[quick jolt]

ahh

[solemn forge]

i think it's odd that a 9mm pistol with 9 rounds won't kill a bear

i mean all shots to the face too

should at least deter the thing

[quick jolt]

Yeah I think thats just to encourage the weapon upgrade system

Or gotta get rifle or shotgun

[untold lynx]

I come back to this channel and I'm like what the heck is going on and oh thank god it's 7d2d

[azure vector]

Yeah, my naked and afraid D&D party conversation in BG3 didn’t take flight 🥸

[golden forge]

My summer retreat has been saved

Thank you Keen Team for keeping the dream alive

😂

Now I can play more BG3

I'm just thinking about my characters and going through them and thinking which one of them I will choose to torment with Dark Urge

[azure vector]

I’m still trying to find 3 others to play BG3 in a full party, through a full campaign.
The idea would be to have everyone play in character and make it a YouTube series for my channel.
I think it would be a fun experience.

[untold lynx]

add the times at which you'd play and timezone if you're looking for players

[azure vector]

Is it ok to do that here in this channel?

[untold lynx]

I mean you already have your post here mentioning you wanna do that you goof

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[azure vector]

I’m US (NYC Time zone - EDT).
Would hope to play/record on the weekends. Pretty flexible between 9am - 10pm EDT.
Maybe 2hr sessions per whenever? If it’s anything like playing real dnd - scheduling/adulting might allow once a month 😂

[reef bobcat]

Even if I wanted to try that game the size is so off-putting

[neon sleet]

125 gb isn't that lar.........ok yea it's a bit much

[low marlin]

ARK enters the chat

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[fading bear]

i will play Enshrouded

[golden forge]

That sounds like a threat

Like you're like "I've already hacked into their server, and I have the current build in my hands"

[marble fable]

allready f'd up my build and had to remake my char 🤣

[tepid wadi]

I've been playing some Palia. It's definitely fun, but no Enshrouded replacement. I sure do wish I could build a bit easier in it, heh

[trim yoke]

I need something to play while I wait. Burnt myself out on RimWorld again, saving Grounded for when my kids play too, and wife and I are bored of 7 Days To Die again.

[tepid wadi]

I feel ya. I wish Valheim would come out with their difficulty settings patch. Gonna try a hardcore hard playthrough with the crew.

If only there was some other survival game to fill the time 🤔

[mortal vale]

the forest

[tepid wadi]

Nah, I've never liked the building in the forest. Plus I'm not really into the horror style.

[near gust]

Conan Exiles?

[trim yoke]

Played too much CE back in the day, now it's full of cosmetics and crap so that's a no from me.
And Ark is a hard no

[proud leaf]

I love CE. Still do. Fun with a group of friends if you rent a server.

[tall nymph]

friends are over for me to continue playing my first ever playthrough of Ocarina of time I'm getting the fire medallion right now, while my hubby plays soul hackers 2.

[full acorn]

How much is your electricity bill?

• yes

Got quite the collection going there

[tall nymph]

we actually haven't gotten our first months electric bill yet but I anticipate a very high one. we ran a similar setup at old place and it was about 115 USD.

I just got the fire medallion!

[near gust]

I'm jealous. What I wouldn't give to play thorugh OoT for the first time again. 😛

[solemn forge]

mine is about $600

[full acorn]

Mine is £50 and even then I don't want to be spending that much on it.

[rocky crater]

dude, what you doing, heating a pool?

[tall nymph]

Water temple is on the docket for the next session. I just unfroze the Zora King. It's going much better now that I can play on an actual N64 controller.

[tall nymph]

I'm not expecting it to be this high, but we do have a hottub now.

[lethal wave]

I'm here dreading my 160 bill because of running the AC non step <_<

I miss my old apartment where it'd be 50 dollars outside of the summer

[reef bobcat]

my bills are pretty much 0 to none cause we are always paying 20 euros above the montly bill so we always even have returns

[full acorn]

What build number is it now??

[solemn forge]

i have a 3090ti and a 4070 in my bedroom alone, my 3090ti is the kingpin edition, it has a ln2 oc vbios and it alone can and does use 550w

plus we have 4 fridges 4 freezers, a giant portable air conditoner and so on

the rest of the house has like 8 other comptuers plus our home server

we also have a bit of an indoor greenhouse

i could go on

[reef bobcat]

Jesus

[solemn forge]

yeah that 550w is just the card itself

not even the rest of that system

[untold anvil]

Hating the rich is a feeling

[golden forge]

WHY DO YOU HAVE 4 FRIDGES AND FREEZERS

Do you have an army of lawn gnomes you must feed every day or they will come and eat your toes?

[azure vector]

You ever notice that Valheim carapace looks like a happy gummy bear?

[reef bobcat]

Hahaa

[azure vector]

I took a selfie next to this tree because I felt it was mocking my face.

“Resting Birch Face”?

[reef bobcat]

Hahaha

Lol

[solemn forge]

i live with 2 other people, one fridge and freezer is in our basement for alcohol and glass chilling, we have another fridge and freezer in our kitchen, same for our garage, then we have a chest freezer in the garage as well but that's used for making beer, i have a fridge in my bedroom because i don't always feel like putting pants on and going down a flight of stairs to get a drink or some food.

[solemn forge]

we're not rich, we're in crippling debt, we don't own anything we have, the bank owns it

in fact i'm still paying off my debt for my computers

worth it though

i plan to upgrade to a 4090ti if and when it comes out, if it never comes out then i'll wait for the 5090.

[azure vector]

With that many fridges, and all the other stuff you listed, your electric bill must be screaming. No wonder you’re in “crippling debt”

This is how Troll armor is born 🥸

[solemn forge]

i don't pay the electric bill, the vast majoirty of my debt is from my car

[reef bobcat]

Feels bad 😦 spended 300 euros on the sims

And 50 euros on atlas fallen

Also I notice we use this topic as off topic 🙂

[craggy wing]

Would you say you had a... Bad feeling? :)

[arctic haven]

Debating on buying Baldur's Gate 3...

[trim yoke]

So am I actually.
Though I just downloaded some mods for 7dtd to play on a server with irl friends, so I'll hold off BG3 a little longer

[arctic haven]

I never got heavy into 7dtd personally

[quick mortar]

It's great. If you fancy something like original sin but darker and with D&D, it's a blast

Absolute talk, 60 is a bunch. Relatively speaking now it's a steal compared to the market...

wrath of the righteous is a great RPG too from what I heard, less noob friendly tough, but you can grab it for cheap on sale

[arctic haven]

If the game is worth it, I don't mind the $60.

[quick mortar]

Think D;OS gameplay boosted by D&D rules

[arctic haven]

I never played D:os, or any dnd based game, but have always been interested

[quick mortar]

oh ok

[arctic haven]

I did play the top-down Diablo-esque Baldurs Gate II

[quick mortar]

It has an easier learning curve than any other D&D pc game I played

quite ergonomic

ok so not BG2 but the HnS version ?

[arctic haven]

Right on, it sounds like fun

Uhh, what was HnS

[quick mortar]

hack & slash

[arctic haven]

Ah yes, that

[quick mortar]

I mean, it's an RPG in the classic definition, you better enjoy stories and a bit of reading

it's not a monster bashing game, although it can be played like it, that would be missing the point entirely

but these games can usually be played with the highest disregard to talk and just (trying to) crush anything and everything if you only enjoy combat

"allies" or foes 😛

the combat gameplay is great. I don't know if resource wise it's viable to do so though, with adequate char selection maybe

[arctic haven]

I think I'll enjoy it- I'm a huge fan of literature and storytelling

[ashen garden]

looks closer to a troll face skin

[reef bobcat]

I really love bg3 playing it Soo much my eyes today felt in real pain

[arctic haven]

Alright, I did it.

Installing as we speak.

[golden forge]

I'm playing a couple of hours today before going away on vacay and unable to play it for a week or so

[arctic haven]

So far, I like it. Played three or so hours last night. I rolled a rogue as they had a longsword bonus but I think I'll reroll as either a ranger or a fighter- it seems that if I try to fight outright with the rogue without using specific stealth tactics, I get walloped. Could be a very fun way to play but I don't know enough about the game yet to want to play that way- want to learn the game before I play stealth

[reef bobcat]

Soo many survival games are coming out also alot of RPGs I can say mmo era might be slowly. Dying

[azure vector]

Tomato tomatto 😜

[full acorn]

Average portal knights session. Sometimes people still take things which annoy me. If they just asked then it would he highly likely I would just give suff away.

[merry moat]

Lol me in any game that has storage

[azure vector]

Same lol

[full acorn]

Skyrim when the peasants come looking for their cheese wheel's. 😤 Stay out of my damn house!

[merry moat]

Haha so it’s not just me that has a cheese room

[full acorn]

If there is space to enter your house, I don't want it.

[merry moat]

Ah yes Skyrim

[azure vector]

My voice acting coach would be so proud. His character in the Elder world loves cheese!

[inland skiff]

BG3 ! If you haven’t played it yet, you’re missing out

[reef bobcat]

Can't afford it atm and not the biggest fan of turn based combat

[swift moth]

Can't afford it. Feel free to get me copy, I'd even co-op with you

[full acorn]

The more I play, the more I am consumed by the world of dark souls. 3 is amazing!

https://youtu.be/idpml4CALMA

[gentle void]

I call cap, your coach ain’t Sheo

Pics or it’s fake

[azure vector]

It’s Wes Johnson

[gentle void]

holy shit

[quick jolt]

I've been enjoying Palia closed beta with m'lady, it's pretty dang fun if you want a non-competitive MMO

Open beta is Aug 10 I believe

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I've been playing it at as well, it's a nice chill game.

[craggy wing]

Same. Super chill game, but it's a bit grindy for me as it is

[tepid wadi]

I just don't have a good time with the building in it

[reef bobcat]

yap it's 10th

[solid agate]

Ш ТЬАЬАЬА

ФЫЛЫЫЫЫЫЫЫЛЛЛЛЛЛЛЛЛЛЛЛЪ

ЙЫВДВЛФВФВБВБВАЛАЛЫЛВЛЫВЦЙЛВЙЗ ЕКФЛЫАЫОТАММТ МТ МТОТТФ,?????? раоалыьс , оаоыылб рйгц лпри оытс оуйцы нарош лытсфй ждай оапирус орлмак

[reef bobcat]

How about we speak english here?

[solid agate]

sary

[solid agate]

sary men

excuce

@reef bobcat excuce

pleze

dont anderstand inglish spek rusan @reef bobcat

[reef bobcat]

i know all fine

just saying

[solid agate]

ok

[amber lagoon]

this releases tomorrow and Im super hyped

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1230530/Atlas_Fallen/

Steam

Atlas Fallen

Rise from the dust and liberate mankind from the oppression of a corrupted god.Glide the sands of a timeless land, filled with ancient dangers, mysteries and fragments of the past. Hunt legendary monsters, using powerful, shape-shifting weapons and devastating sand-powered abilities in spectacular, super-powered combat.Target and gather the esse...

Price

$49.99

Release Date

Aug 10, 2023

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[amber lagoon]

yeah I also made it in, its def something Ill vibe to occasionally but likely wont commit to

[azure vector]

Sheogorath? Yah, that’s him. Lol
I met him at MAGFest 2019 & 2020. Read for one of his panels, and later had a long conversation with him that nudged me into voice acting.
Then summer of last year, he told me to join one of his other online classes. So I did. It was a total blast.

[azure vector]

That’s awesome! I’m really excited for the open beta. I tried getting in their first closed beta but their website was jacked up and it wouldn’t let me get into my own account to get the download 😞.
I heard it was atrocious though.
Hoping open beta turns things around.

[quick jolt]

atrocious? who said that? it's fun and they are fixing reported bugs pretty well

[amber lagoon]

mostly just bad server performance

[azure vector]

Everyone I know that got in said there were tons of bugs and lag.
Which is to be expected for any closed beta. But I’m still hopeful.
Looks like a fun time killer.

[quick jolt]

yeah there is occasional lag, and they do this thing where every time you load into a different zone, it seems to randomize your server, which apparently each "server" is 25 player max. So you have to re-invite a friend/party member any time you go into diff zones if you don't happen to randomly land in the same server

hope they figure that system out

[reef bobcat]

I was gonna sign up for palia beta but I did not wanna ruin a game before

So I m waiting till they fix some bigger issue

[quick jolt]

that's fair

especially when it's not a game that being ahead of other players matters much

all about chillin

[azure vector]

Yikes! That would drive me bonkers lol

[quick jolt]

it is a frustration

[amber lagoon]

Im most annoyed by the game lagging out on my movement inputs on occasion

like, I'll walk forward, and see a bug I want to catch, but then my character keeps walking forward despite me letting off the movement keys and scaring the bug

[quick jolt]

oh weird I haven't had that one. But yeah I assume a big part of beta testing is guaging their server and lag issues

[reef bobcat]

waiting for palia

also got my self into https://store.steampowered.com/app/1658040/I_Am_Future_Cozy_Apocalypse_Survival/

Steam

I Am Future: Cozy Apocalypse Survival

You wake up on an overgrown skyscraper roof - not a living soul in sight. Cosmopolis, once a mighty array of metal and glass, lies shattered in ruins and flooded. The decades-long struggle between UNICORP and the rival corporations pursuing transhumanism ideas seems to have been over for good when society collapsed. Now it is up to you to try an...

Price

$13.49

▶ Play video

also waiting for game "Rooted"

tomorrow is Atlas fallen soo many games coming out

and i do have only two pair of hands and eyes XD

[reef bobcat]

We shall see tomorrow how it's gonna be ^^

[manic wadi]

Palia is fun. Just has a lack of content that keeps it very shallow.

But hopefully by the time of full release they will have added a lot more content.

[azure vector]

I know the feeling!
I’ve been doing my best at not buying anything besides Diablo IV this year.
Trying to avoid buying from AAA’s as well.
Baldur’s Gate 3, with the exception that I bought it 3yrs ago.
Funny thing is, with all the big title games I have, I keep coming back to Dave the Diver for its unique style and chill gameplay vibes.

Pardon the ADHD tangent that went all over the place, unsolicited 🥸

I definitely want to see what people are saying about Atlas Fallen.

[reef bobcat]

I totally get you 🙂

[reef bobcat]

And no need to apologize for it 🙂

[azure vector]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[cyan fractal]

That would be nice

[ripe echo]

keep an eye out on this one! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2080690/Sunkenland/

Steam

Sunkenland

Sunkenland is an exciting post-apocalyptic survival and exploration game set in the near future when water covered most of the Earth. Explore sunken cities, scavenge resources and valuable technologies, build your base, trade, fight and survive.FeaturesDivingExplore the sunken skyscrapers, nuclear powerplants and subway tunnel. Gather resources,...

Release Date

Aug 25, 2023

▶ Play video

[finite saffron]

I hope this one ends up being good, I saw it a while ago. Cool concept

[ripe echo]

yes!

releasing soon in ea

[mighty token]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1967630/Survival_Fountain_of_Youth/

Steam

Survival: Fountain of Youth

You are a member of Juan Ponce de Leon's expedition in search of the Fountain of Youth, based on an actual historic event of the Age of Discovery. After a shipwreck, you must learn to survive on deserted lands: from crafting tools, building shelter to hunting prey and fighting off predators.Explore the many islands in search for your crewmates, ...

Price

$18.39

Recommendations

1047

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[mortal vale]

nice

[gilded tundra]

have you played?? it looks freaking awesome & the devs are on top of things! how do u like?

[mighty token]

I played it for about an hour and it looks really good

[astral whale]

beat remnant 2 today. pretty fun game

[fierce light]

Bought it, played it for about 4 hours
Not bad but needs polishing
No bugs or glitches, that's something but a few elements of combat are slow or choppy and one type of enemy is way overpowered imo

[vagrant elm]

Anyone playing Starsiege: Deadzone in its open beta?

[tepid wadi]

I played it for a bit, but then Dark and Darker released and it's waaaaay more fun.

[vagrant elm]

They're very similar, I think its just preference you know.

I'm way better at Deadzone than Darker lol

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I don't think Starsiege is bad, but I'm just more of a sword and board person than a shooter person

[vagrant elm]

I feel you

[tepid wadi]

I feel like in Starsiege, there is less I can do to turn a fight around than in Dark and Darker. Skill expression just feels more present in a melee-focused game.

[vagrant elm]

Oh, another one is Fractured Veil. Did anyone get into the alpha/beta? I know its planning to release in Oct.

[tight meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-rock-and-stone-gif-22047860

[craggy wing]

Did I hear a Rock and Stone?

[solemn forge]

it's only $10 atm

[full acorn]

I don't even want to know what that is about

[tight meteor]

FOR KARL

[sweet mango]

ah, forgot to set my username to the one in my email

[sweet mango]

that wasn't even russian...? it was just nonsense.

[lost delta]

It’s on game pass if anyone has that

[errant swallow]

I love it
back in ancient times Electricity could only be found in clouds, so Raikou evolved a long neck to reach it

[sudden light]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-gif-13991024

They were going for this meme

[reef bobcat]

tryed it today and had mixed feeling about it

soo close

[neon sleet]

They turned the cat into a Giraffe.
Funniest $&@# ive ever seen Morty

[wintry cove]

[tall nymph]

Shore Leaflitter in Palia ❤️

[reef bobcat]

Thoughts on the game?

[tall nymph]

Cute so far, definitely hits the cozy mark but I need far more time to have a legitimate opinion.

[tepid wadi]

I've played a good chunk of it as well. It definitely captures the casual stardew vibe of those sorts of games. My only real problem is a personal one: the building doesn't really do it for me. It's very simple, and while you can decorate your house nicely, I like a more custom building system.

But if you're looking for a nice relaxed gathering/farming simulator? It's very good.

[left nymph]

What kind of game is it like? My time at portia?

Trailer doesnt show much, just a bunch of PoH and farming. Ends with them running to combat or something

[tepid wadi]

The only real "combat" is hunting. There are no enemies or health bars or anything like that.

It's very much a farming/gathering sim

[quick jolt]

^ it is not a survival/crafting type thing, it's 3d stardew essentially

[stuck prism]

Grindy..... like realy grindy.... like extrem mega crazy grindy.
And progress is slowed down a lot by timers. For example 1 room for your house takes 8h to finish after spending the ressource or ressource crafting (like planks or ingots) take from 2-4 minutes each and longer at higher tiers..... and farming is the worst of all, not only do you have to water your plots severall times a day, but getting seeds takes 40+ minutes of converting your ressources and only 1 to 3 at a time and you can't place severall workstations (like in conan exiles for example) because you are limited by a max amount which results in 1 workstation max of each type.
And i almost forgot you have to make gold too, to be even able to progress, so you have to sell your gathered ressources, which slowes you even more down.

Nonetheless is has its charm and somehow it's nice and relaxing to play.

[solemn forge]

The timer aspect is what turned me off of that game, I refuse to play games like that but that’s just me personally

[rocky crater]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2357570/Overwatch_2/

look at that amazing rating

[lunar flame]

I wouldn't expect it to be any better than that..

[quick jolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6yb8OoFvw idk if there's any other Titan Quest fans out here but TQ2 has ACTUALLY been announced only a short 17 years after initial TQ release!

[rocky crater]

urgh no gameplay

i dunno path of exile 2 gonna blow anything else away i think

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I want to see gameplay for sure. Even more importantly the class/progression systems.

[craggy egret]

If anyone is looking to try out Palia, the Open Beta is running now and you can join using my invite code: https://accounts.palia.com/sign-up?referral=976fee1c-e756-4abe-b73b-a11a41e106b4

[dense pine]

Ah, this is where we were talking about Palia. I signed up for the open beta this morning, and then spent an hour scouring my discord channels to find where this conversation was, lol

[craggy egret]

Welcome back! Haha

[onyx hatch]

Well if you haven't hit 5 referrals yet, you just got two more 😄

[craggy egret]

Thanks!

[reef bobcat]

Playing remnant 2 on ps5 if anyone else does

I have it on pc as well. Looking for an outward partner if anyone else wants to start fresh

[reef bobcat]

i like the game and i don't have any issue with an grind at all .. My issue is Shop i'm aware this is the world we are living but i'm old time school player that used to Work for reward as much as would take me

[stuck prism]

thats just another issue. the prices for a single skin during beta are insane.... 10-20 bucks for a single skin.

[reef bobcat]

again i dont mind for people that wanna go ahead

[reef bobcat]

i know right and for example you are gonna buy it now for 10-20 bucks and latter on is gonna be 5 or even free that why i have tendecy a bit wait xD

but as game is really good made maybe i'm too obses with Valheim building? like with freedom how you wanna build ^^ but that can be just in my head

Speaking for Valheim i 'm still waiting for updates .. Recently updates we're only for Public test :S

[amber lagoon]

Im tired of games locking all the fancy cosmetics behind a paywall

Im here to play the damn game

paying is not playing

[turbid schooner]

but yet everyone hated the monthly sub games. When they went away pay to win and cash shops took over

it is a busness after all they will find a way to make money or why make the game. the 45$ or whatever the initial cost is is not enough to maintain a game long term and gamers seem to think they should get 1000 hours of enjoyment for the 20$ game but yet people spend 50 or more for a 2 hour movie. I dont understand it.

[amber lagoon]

of course people hate monthly sub games, might as well spend that money on a single player game that has basically no microtransactions

it cant even be said that devs arent making money without all the pay to win and cash shop bs

baldors gate 3 has proven that

[proven verge]

the difference is in hosted games versus non-hosted. A hosted game HAS TO HAVE some type of income method in order to pay for the monthly/annual costs associated with hosting whereas a stand-a-lone game (ie. BG3) doesn't require that and a one time fee is perfectly fine for it.

[woven spindle]

I think the reason Baldors Bate 3 might be a success story, is because of it's immense player base, who buy the game once, play it for a couple of months and will probably move on.
Let's take it as an example. If this one time cash influx (people will buy the game over the next couple of games, but probably never in the same quantities as at launch) is enough to balance out the checkbooks, great! If it isn't, then the devs (well dev's don't always make decisions on what's done, especially in big companies, but let's keep a positive outlook on life haha) can start juggling the aspects of:

• are they going to start development of DLC, which will take an immense amount of time and monetary resources to develop, aka put them in the red again. The gamble might be worth it, if after another year (for example) of development there is enough of a playerbase still active which is theoretically willing to buy something 30€ (assuming it's a larger DLC), and also hoping that some of the older player base which dropped off comes back. It's a gamble, that doesn't always return favourable because new DLC updates can have massive impacts on reviews and expectations, impacting future sales a lot
• or are they going to introduce small cosmetic microtransations which might upset some of the player base, impacting sales (like above), but have a lot less (normally speaking) development costs.
• or a multitude of other options, like merch, writing books/comics, etc... all of them also having some risk to them

For a lot of managers at studios, I think they make the calculations of risk quite quickly and to them, hurting a percentage of their playerbase, by introducing cosmetic microtransactions in comparison to very large margins on return on investments.

I'm definitly not agreeing to that kind of reasoning, but from a business perspective, a business which wants to pay their employees, I can understand it. I think if the game making world would have been entirly lead by devs and artists, the story would be quite different, but maybe in turn a lot of game studios wouldn't even exist for longer than a single game before going bankrupt

[woven spindle]

depends on what kind of game it is I think. Minecraft Java edition (not looking at Bedrock for a moment, because that has grown into a different model), is also a stand alone game which has been on the market for a long long time, but is still getting active updates which take up a long development cycle. Sure, they don't need to spend as much on marketing with their millions of people playing the game, but still development of the updates takes a long time. A lot of players has only bought the game once, and are now enjoying the updates free of charge. Community servers are also not owned or licenced by them, so they don't get any stable influx of cash from them, only Minecraft Realms and I thought to have read only a very small portion of players buy this for java edition (I could be wrong here, I simply don't know anymore).

This is the reason why microsoft, the owner of the studio, is pivoting so hard on the Bedrock edition for younger players, is because it can give them a stable influx of cash, mainly through the (community) market. It has a lot of cosmetics in them sure, but also a ton of feature packed DLC.
I truly wonder what the internal politics at Mojang are, because I'd assume that the Java Edition, although having a very warm place in the heart of the community, isn't really that good of a game for the company's health I'd assume.
(again, I've only been looking at the game, not the merch and other stuff around the IP. I have to assume that a lot of minecraft's java edition's contribution to Mojang's cash influx is also through merch and the older community that buys them)

[hearty thistle]

hate monthly sub games? I subbed to WoW religiously for a decade. I got nothing against a sub that's worth it.

As I hope happens with this game and has with many others, we will cheerfully pay money for a good, finished game. ESPECIALLY if it has replay value.

[stuck prism]

Then "Hello Games" should be broke already by that logic.... but they aren't, even they run a huge database, onlineplay by providing servers and yet are able to spit out new content and fixes for severall years already (release 2016, no cashshop, no monthly fee, no dlcs to pay, etc) and are still very much profitable.

[amber lagoon]

😂

destroyed

the ambulance cant even save you

[lunar flame]

Ahh, yes... the developers of No Game, Lie.

[amber lagoon]

no mans sky is actually doing pretty good these days

[proven verge]

Hosted games HAS to have income coming from somewhere, its just plain and simple economics, so if this "rare" company is making due with a billionaire producer who doesn't mind giving his fortune away or a ton of donations coming from outside sources, then the game has to be making money coming from merchandise or other means. If it is simply living off of its initial income of sales, then that money will run out and if a good influx of new purchases to the game are not coming in, the servers WILL go down. I don't know why some people are having such a problem understanding very simple economics. Nothing is free. Everything has a cost which has to be paid in one form or another.

[amber lagoon]

I'd like to introduce you to Ark, a game that has just a few one time purchase dlcs and has been running strong since 2016

the point we are trying to make, is that the idea of a game needing gacha or to be flooded with cash shop to be profittable is absolutely nuts

[proven verge]

Ark has several purchases still being made, and dlcs (maps) that are purchased.

[amber lagoon]

one time purchases that arent really even all that expensive

[proven verge]

the case being made, is that the company literally has to have a revenue line.

[amber lagoon]

considering ark goes on sale as much as my sister changes clothes

[proven verge]

in some cases, the cost is coming from another platform or game that the company has developed in order to keep a well loved game "marketing" up

[amber lagoon]

anyway, that was all i was trying to say, further debate is just arguing for the sake of arguing

[proven verge]

but in the end, that game will be ditched if it starts to cost too much

One more thing in regards to Ark, it is mostly user hosted, which means the cost of hosting is broken down to users, its not like a MMO such as WoW. User Hosted games can pretty much run indefinitely as long as it has a user base willing to take the cost of hosting it themselves.

I think this is also why we are seeing so many user hosted games being made now. It gives the game a lower cost entry point, and allows it to grow or shrink according to its user base without the producing company's involvement.

[amber lagoon]

pretty based takes here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqhzRlDgWmI

[woven spindle]

Well they have a growing player base (as far as I was aware) because of the updates and qol improvements they have implemented. Their "all dlc is free" policy is bringing in new players still, so a cash inflow because of it

[woven spindle]

Good. I would love to have a game as filled with content like fallout 3 or skyrim in the new age of gaming again. Let the managers know that good games are a great benefit to their company

[lunar flame]

Sorry, been busy... I should have followed with a "/s"

The game has definitely improved massively since release.

[proven verge]

totally agreed. Its refreshing to have a company willing to put in all that effort to enhance most the "thrown-together" stuff triple AAAs have been unleashing. Now Hollywood needs to do the same as well and stop all the trash they've been trying to force on us as well.

[lunar flame]

I've started playing, using your code.

I'm currently struggling to see any lasting appeal, subjectively.. but it seems well-made so far.

[craggy egret]

Thanks! Yeah, it's a ... how do they put it.. a cozy mmo. It's a kin to like an idle game almost... You can have it up while you do other things and completely forget about it and nothing bad happens.

[lunar flame]

I just started out, so I can hunt with a bow.. but I haven't gotten into fishing or proper building yet.

[craggy egret]

For me, it fits the category of mindless gaming when I dont' feel like concentrating too much. Cute as hell though.

[lunar flame]

🙂

Is there any "proper" building, or is it just dropping prebuilt structures?

[craggy egret]

Yeah I think it's just premades from what I Can tell thus far. I am not sure if the later game adds the ability to do structured building.

[lunar flame]

I hope so, because the prebuilt thing might struggle for wider appeal.

[stuck prism]

only prebuild building and it takes 8 hours to complete. you can add new rooms to it, but still each one takes a huge amount of grind and everytime 8h to complete after spending severall hours first to convert ressources (everything is locked behind timers)

[lunar flame]

Fair enough

[craggy egret]

That's why I call it an idle game

[lunar flame]

I'm just looking at the construction stuff now.

[craggy egret]

I think the audience they are largely looking for is the Animal Crossing/Stardew Valley crowd. I don't think survivalists are it's primary market.

If you liked either of those games, you'll really enjoy Palia.

[lunar flame]

Never played either.

Ohh! There we go.. Just obtained the house blueprint.

Ok... so, I need gold, but I can't sell any of the materials for cash..

[craggy egret]

Dump everything you've collected that has a coin value in the shipping bin at the front of your house. This is how you gain gold.

[lunar flame]

I just got that hint. lol

[craggy egret]

lol

[lunar flame]

I missed it before.

[trim yoke]

You guys talking about Palia?

[craggy egret]

Yeah