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iron cloud
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portal knights

patent oracle
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Portal Knights ๐Ÿ‘Œ

distant kernel
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Portal Knights!

tribal saffron
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Portal Knights.

spring mantle
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Portal Knights, of course ๐Ÿ˜„

lethal mirage
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Portal Knights โ˜‘๏ธ

neon furnace
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Portal Knights

potent narwhal
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Portal Knights!

clear brook
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Portal Knights

full acorn
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The Giant is dead... I mean the Giant gave up.

untold lynx
full acorn
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Perhaps I should try it when it reaches xbox

untold lynx
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hasn't been on xbox forever at this stage?

full acorn
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What year are we in 2024? I had to ask my Alexa... Jeez. Supposedly it is meant to be coming to xbox in spring this year. It is also already apparently on the Microsoft store on PC but I don't use that.

untold lynx
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Skyrim has been on Steam since its release in 2012, unless I'm having a stroke?

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2011, even!

full acorn
untold lynx
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oooh haha that makes more sense

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I was like "how has Todd Howard not sold four copies of Skyrim to this man yet"

full acorn
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Pfhahah ๐Ÿคฃ

untold lynx
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Valheim is also on Steam and on the Xbox Game Pass already

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it's one of the big reasons I was excited to join Keen tbh

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beforehand I only had a few experiences of games like Portal Knights... meaning I had mostly played Minecraft ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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Minecraft a good game but when you run out of ideas to build there is nothing to do, unlike portal knights. I'll have to check gamepass too then.

untold lynx
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you're not being very fair to it. It's very much the epitome of "make your own fun" but there's always been oodles of content, and now there's so much more that I barely know where to go when the urge takes me to punch some trees

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my big thing in Minecraft was finding cool spots and imagine what my friends and I could build there, and then create and manage the project and recruit people for it. Hype man forever ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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Hehe ๐Ÿ˜

untold lynx
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anyone tried anything during the Steam Next Fest?

full acorn
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No idea what that is

untold lynx
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it's a week-long event on Steam where you can try demos of upcoming games

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it was last week ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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I probably wouldn't have found any demos to interest me. I find, for whatever reason, when I play new games I quickly loose interest in a lot of them unfortunately. For example I want to play the metro series, I have them but a few hour in I get bored. By the time I go to play them again I have no idea what I was doing or even where I am.

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I have also found that a lot of new games from the bigger companies have lots of bugs on release. So I usually wait a year or two for them to go on sale. At that point most bugs are fixed and more content has been added too.

untold lynx
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but then people have moved on and nobody wants to talk about it anymore and so it's a constant push and pull between hype and polish ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

full acorn
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It's a shame because I imagine the devs have lots of ideas and would prefer a better quality game but are forced to meet deadlines. Red dead for example, it has been abandoned now sure storymode was so incredible but because they weren't making money from the gold bard like they were from sharkcards in gta v they stopped updating it.

There should definitely be a balance of hype and polish and unfortunately it seems hard to get right in a lot of cases.

We should been in good hands with you and keen right? Right...??

untold lynx
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well, we're going the early access route, so there will most definitely be bugs when the game comes out, that's just the way games work

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but we'll be counting on you lot to let us know what you want us to be focusing our efforts on, within the scope of what we can do and our plans for the game, so that the game is the best it can be ๐Ÿ˜Ž

full acorn
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As long as its advertised as a beta that's fine I don't mind that so much.

merry moat
full acorn
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Trust us I'm sure we will give lots of feedback, positive too ๐Ÿ˜Š

merry moat
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Couldn't even get a refund because i got the preorder straight from the devs

merry moat
full acorn
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I used to like domino's... they keep raising their prices. It makes it harder to justify buying it. I really want to try a Costco pizza though. ยฃ9 for a 18in

merry moat
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Yea dominos is so expensive now days

full acorn
untold lynx
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just a heads-up: careful about posting pictures that include your location ๐Ÿ˜‰

full acorn
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Eh I did see but it's broad. I'm not that exciting even if someone wanted to find me ๐Ÿคฃ

untold lynx
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your call

full acorn
untold lynx
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any of you looking forward to Sons of the Forest?

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I've not played the original and it looks way too scary for me, but it's a survival game, soooo... might appeal to you ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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I'm looking forward to 38 ๐Ÿ‘€

merry moat
untold lynx
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what else have you played between Portal Knights and now? Are you still on that PK juice?

full acorn
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I've been going between a lot of games, I have a lot of games I've only played for an hour or two but with a lot of games I struggle to get invested into them without getting bored

untold lynx
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games like PK?

merry moat
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I'm currently addicted to fallout 4 and rimworld (when i dont crash it with too many mods lol). Started a vamyr playthrough yesterday, and the occasional bit of making stupid things in space engineers.

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Me at the moment pretty much

untold lynx
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Vampyr like, the game where you play a doctor Vampyr, or something else?

merry moat
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yea that one, its got its issues (mainly the constant needing to cure people or they die) but the combat is fun with some cool abilities

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I played it once a wile ago on gamepass but i bought it the other month in one of those cheep game stores

full acorn
# untold lynx games like PK?

I've played terraria and Minecraft and I like those but games like high on life I looked forward too but I couldn't get into it the story wasn't great at the beginning and the comedy can only carry it so much. The metro games were only but I didn't find it interesting enough and especially after playing games with better graphics or mechanics playing old games is a struggle.

merry moat
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Terraria is a masterpiece

untold lynx
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I see what you mean for High on life. Either it works for you, or it doesn't quite, and if the rest of the game isn't to your liking, then it can quickly grate I think

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I've not tried the Metro series, although I own a couple. Last one that came out did look beautiful though. Was it not?

full acorn
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Yeah they aren't bad and just starts off slow. I just can't keep my attention on it long enough to get into. I usually end up taking a break from a game for so long I forget what I was doing and have to restart which also is boring. Or I'll want a perfect playthrough and over search things and get bored. That's why I like a lot for games with don't have a set story or path to follow because there is a bit of freedom with it.

untold lynx
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someone on Twitter once said there should be a "previously, in [this game]" for when you get back into it after a week or more, so you have a chance to get back into it

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it would be an awesome feature, especially for more story-oriented game... but also for open world AAA ubi-style stuff where you can get lost between all the side quests

full acorn
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Yeah I have two assassin creeds installed but lack the enthusiasm to play even though I enjoyed unity Co op for a short time. Maybe later today idk

untold lynx
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I've balked at the idea of even getting my feet wet, even though as a games industry person, I've had the chance of having a friend who works for the studio basically give me the game for free

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I'm just like "do I really want to make this my entire gaming world for several weeks? Uuuuh"

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whereas games like Valheim or Minecraft, idk, I'm not projecting into the long term, I'm just doing that one thing... that will lead to that one other thing in several days at least ๐Ÿ˜„

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I guess the idea of perceived commitment is what I'm scared by

full acorn
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Perhaps it's because I have an idea in my mind of what I think the game will be like and it's different and then that puts me off. I honestly couldn't say why I struggled to play games... It may just be me too but I feel as I'm getting older I am getting considerably worse at the games... ๐Ÿ˜’ I'm not even old yet.

untold lynx
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if we could objectively say why we like or stick to certain games, things would be a lot easier!

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and games marketing wouldn't be basically this

merry moat
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Everyone likes different things at different times, i think that is why its so hard

untold lynx
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true

full acorn
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As long as you keep telling me 38 will be good I'll have hope for it ๐Ÿ™‚

untold lynx
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nononono you misinterpret what I'm here for

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I am here to make the Game 38 community good and tell people it'll be a good time being in it

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it's the rest of the team that's doing the marketing. I'm mostly here for after you've bought the game ๐Ÿ˜›

merry moat
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Totally not gaming on my other monitor oops

untold lynx
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what I'm doing here is like, advance customer service I guess

untold lynx
full acorn
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Ah so I come to you after being asked if I've restarted my device? ๐Ÿคฃ

untold lynx
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no no that's @mystic cradle

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you come to me to complain that the game is unbalanced and things suck and why am I posting memes and not fixing the issues

merry moat
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So you dont tell us to turn it off and on again?

untold lynx
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I might

untold lynx
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I'm the guy who puts the fire with the rest of the fire

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neat and orderly

untold lynx
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that's been me on a Thursday night after the team pushes the new update and goes for a well-deserved beer

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and we get the first reports of saves being broken

merry moat
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I think everyone has been there just for different reasons

untold lynx
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just thankful mine have been metaphorical fires

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#bless

untold lynx
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has anyone playing PK on Nintendo DS by any chance? I've got a question from a user about it and well, I have no idea how to help them and it feels bad not to ask the specialists in the room ๐Ÿ˜„

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I am being told that PK was not on Nintendo DS, which means I have no idea what game of ours they're asking for help with

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I love this

merry moat
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They definitely said DS?

untold lynx
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they did

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in German also but you don't need Google Translate for "das Spiel auf dem Nintendo DS" ๐Ÿ˜„

merry moat
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Strange yea, dont think pk is on that, they might of meant switch maybe?

untold lynx
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well, I sent them the best troubleshooting I could find, so here's to hoping haha

worldly dome
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Has PK been abandoned or are there any other updates coming up / dlc's?

merry moat
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As far as we know itโ€™s done

untold lynx
untold lynx
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it's a "shorter" experience and I think I'll clock in at around 20 hours, after completing most of everything, but I had an incredible time. The whole thing drips with atmosphere

full acorn
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I may have to make a twitter account... I probably wouldn't win it anyway but if I don't play then I definitely won't. Look how cool the xboxs are. I'm not really bothered about the controller...

untold lynx
full acorn
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I have currently been returning the Lords of cinder to their thrones... I had played Wo Long fallen dynasty and then I was like I had to replay DS3 and the main menu theme is amazing my favourite part is probably the abyss watcher fight even that sound track is amazing. @untold lynx an idea for game 38 is have a boss who is really courteous before beating you to a pulp hah

untold lynx
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my current notes are "make end boss super hot, everyone loves a good hot villain". Should I erase and put "super courteous" instead??

full acorn
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Is that a spoiler are they going to be hot? Hehe maybe, have you played dark souls?

untold lynx
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it's not a spoiler, I'm just memeing

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I have played about 10 minutes of Dark Souls 1, thought "oh my god it's so ugly, what are these controls it's like driving a tank" and then never again

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but I did put several dozen hours into Elden Ring

full acorn
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I haven't played the first two only ds3 and it was good. I would say its a lot easier that elden ring but still a challenge especially on your first run.

untold lynx
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it's not really my usual type of game, I'm a scaredy cat

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but with ER's co-op mod, it was much more fun

full acorn
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Elden was fun I wish with games like that you could go back and play it for the first time where everything is now. I found with elden, for me there wasn't much replay-ability

untold lynx
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I mean, there's enough secrets and secondary bosses and things to keep you busy for a while tbh ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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I downloaded a map that had every item location I have been everywhere and done everything I think I really enjoyed the last boss (elder beast) where it was the main theme but calm it was awesome

untold lynx
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well damn

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I checked and I have just over 40 hours

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but only 10/40 achievements

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I don't think I'll ever get around to finishing it haha

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but it was a good time nonetheless!

full acorn
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Definitely, it was fun (I don't have all the achievements either)

untold lynx
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I misguidedly started another Total War Warhammer 3 campaign, this time with a newbie friend

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I had forgotten how annoying it could be to try and confederate the Empire ๐Ÿ˜…

full acorn
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Can't say I know your pain, I have never played...

untold lynx
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lovely series, if you like the mix of real-time strategy and more high-level planning

full acorn
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I currently have the stress of running a city in cities skylines

untold lynx
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is that really stressful? I always thought cities skylines was more of a chill map painter than a management game

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compared to Sim City, for instance, who usually throws some more problems at you the moment you get comfy

full acorn
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I haven't played sims City in a long time but it is pretty similar from what I remember of sims

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God forbid my water pump be further down stream than my sewage outlet

untold lynx
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I haven't played Simcity 4, but I remember from the others that bringing a city to budget equilibrium was SO HARD

full acorn
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Yeah it's bad when a town, town not city, is in the negative for funds... I was a few thousand down before I got going

untold lynx
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in Skylines it always only ever feels temporary, or at least that's the impression I got playing it at release. The game has received so much new content and expansions since, it's probably very different now!

full acorn
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I couldn't say... just started today but there sure looks like a ton of dlcs have been added. Just expanding now that I have unlocked dense zones

untold lynx
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they also have so many mods! you're in for a treat ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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Currently stuck naming roads... I got to have something 38 somewhere ๐Ÿ˜‰

untold lynx
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I love that you can name areas in Cities Skylines, it reinforces immersion so much

full acorn
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That would be another idea for game 38, let us rename our gear maybe ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

untold lynx
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I don't quite think renaming gear is the same thing as renaming an area in a city builder ๐Ÿ˜„

merry moat
full acorn
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Hell naw, I'm happy with whatever they have on game pass

merry moat
untold lynx
full acorn
untold lynx
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it makes sense when you think about it

full acorn
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The only this is what do I do with the other hand... there's not much to do with the keyboard it feels weird...

untold lynx
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you move the camera with wasd!

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you press keyboard shortcuts

merry moat
# full acorn

How the heck did you manage to get everyone to abandon?

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Oh hang on I see some tax symbols

full acorn
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I taxed them like the British colonising the old world

full acorn
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It keeps popping up with a 50k bailout... I don't think that will help.

merry moat
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Lower taxes and it should fix itself, usually does anyway

full acorn
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I still have goals to achieve, I will once I have got what I needed

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The blanket^

untold lynx
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that's more like a carpet

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carpet bombing

full acorn
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Yup...

full acorn
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My initial guess was 25m but I was optimistic when I said 20m, I may hit 27 but I've got what I need and now it's about-face for my city.

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Never mind I forgot to change the taxes, may even be making money again already

full acorn
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Got down to 23m. I'm going to leave it running while I go out

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When I get back, I should be able to buy the buildings I have unlocked from ruining my city. #Fusion #Future

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๐Ÿคฃ

tribal saffron
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Anyone have Pokรฉmon legends arceus that can trade me a darkrai? I can offer shaymin

full acorn
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If you have gen 7 I could

untold lynx
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my last pokemon game was Silver... ๐Ÿ’€

tribal saffron
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Pokรฉmon home won't let me link my account so I can only trade with people who have legends arceus

full acorn
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On 10m debt. After a few tax and policy changes I lost a million and bumped my population over 5k than it was ever before. It won't be long and I'll be back up and running. I'm going to bed, a good way to pass time. Also interesting that we are getting sounds for teasers

merry moat
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โ€œWait you guys play Pokรฉmon games?โ€

tribal saffron
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I wanna be the very best

full acorn
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Not actively

tribal saffron
full acorn
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Thats pretty good spec. Attack. I have a perfect garchomp, like Cynthia's. He's my favourite.

full acorn
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I have a lot to do still but I have been working with the terraforming tools to make an island with a volcano (left) it actually is looking really nice

full acorn
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I can't decide where to put the roads...

full acorn
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Settled for something like this light residential and the island will have a disconnected power grid

full acorn
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No one has moved in yet... sigh does the volcano put them off?

merry moat
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Did you zone it and is there demand for the zones?

full acorn
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I did, I've read something on reddit that sometimes a forced build style can stop them from building. I need to change it when I go back onto it and see if it works.

full acorn
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Started Valheim with some friends, seems good so far not really gotten too far however I have built I little village

untold lynx
full acorn
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It's just a retro fitted abandoned structure really, but I spartan kid a gremlin looking guy down a hill and bated a troll into destroying a lot of things... and then I got squished

untold lynx
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at least the troll didn't yeet you into the tall grass

full acorn
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Here is one half, my character like the tout naturel look. I'm between a black forest and lake/ocean? Seems like a good spot.

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Wow my mobile data is so bad today ๐Ÿ˜•

untold lynx
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oh you've got quite a nice hive collection going already

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love to find some bees

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are all of you Valheim rookies?

merry moat
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Ive never played it

full acorn
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Same until now, just about to do my second burial chamber

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I'm wondering how similar 38 is going to be after playing this the teasers are giving that kind of vibe

untold lynx
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so you've dispatched the first boss already?

untold lynx
full acorn
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Not yet

untold lynx
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you should definitely take on the boss of a biome before moving on to the next

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if you've got some bows, a bit of honey and meat, the first boss is very doable

full acorn
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Sounds good I have so much cooked boar meat, ๐Ÿ— getting dear hide is killing me, occasionally I get a luck spear through but you have to aim so high and I can never remember

untold lynx
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at least you're using spears. I didn't figure that out until I was in my 2nd run

full acorn
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I like to make everything even if I can skip a lot of it. I keep getting coins, do you meet npcs later or is it just for Co op currency?

untold lynx
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you'll need em

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there's a trader in the black forest somewhere

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but the lil guy might be anywhere, even real far away, so finding him is a crapshoot

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but he sells really useful stuff

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I won't spoil ๐Ÿ˜‰

full acorn
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Being British I'll just build a fleet and sail the seas

full acorn
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Need a bow

full acorn
untold lynx
# full acorn Finally

nice shot! It's easier to creep on them if you hide behind trees and bushes btw ๐Ÿ˜‰

full acorn
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I've gotten a bow which seems easier. I'm currently building a bridge. It's a ton of effort

untold lynx
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but well worth it if you can spare yourself being wet!

full acorn
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Or nearly drowning every time

untold lynx
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ugh yes haha

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I mean after a while you learn to aim for those submerged rocks just to get your stamina back, but it's a gamble every time

full acorn
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It's a struggle to place the supports in the middle sigh

untold lynx
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if you have access to bronze (but I'm guessing not yet), you could grab some core wood from the black forest and use it as posts

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they're about twice as long

full acorn
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I have copper, I just haven't worked out how to unlock the recipes yet

untold lynx
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have you built a furnace?

full acorn
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Yes

untold lynx
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forge?

full acorn
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No

untold lynx
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that's your next step then haha

full acorn
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I'll keep my eye out for the recipe

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I assume I need more ores

untold lynx
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I think only copper is necessary for the forge

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the other ore you'll need for bronze stuff is tin, which you can find in very specific places in the black forest... I'll let you discover where ๐Ÿ˜‰

full acorn
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I've gotten some tin too

untold lynx
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then build your forge because you're all set

full acorn
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Oh it is there in my menu I just must have missed it completely

full acorn
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After a break I have come back and finished my bridge, collected bronze and unlocked the teleporter.

untold lynx
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very useful to have a portal between your main base and the boss stones

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just a suggestion, of course

full acorn
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Didn't even think of that yet I still need to make on, thanks for the tip. Makes my bridge seem obsolete already ๐Ÿ˜ I am currently fearing for my life as a tree did multiple 360ยฐ attacks and took down half a forest with it ๐Ÿ˜…

untold lynx
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where does your bridge lead?

full acorn
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The camp icon on the river is the bridge, house is my current house and top icon is old house

untold lynx
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black forest is on the side of the river your current camp is on?

full acorn
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Just a small one yeah

untold lynx
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no other black forest in sight?

full acorn
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I think there is one top right, but I would have to make a raft I think

untold lynx
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just a heads-up, you can't teleport either raw ore or smelted metal through portals

full acorn
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I did notice the icon, sound an odd idea really

untold lynx
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if you could, it would remove a significant amount of the game's difficulty

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which is traversal

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"yes, you've got all this raw ore, but can you make it back to safety?"

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especially since, as you'll discover, crossing bodies of water is... always an adventure ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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The return of the portal knights!

untold lynx
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hahaha

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we're back, baby!

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(but not really)

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(but soon)

full acorn
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How soon we need dates ๐Ÿ˜†

untold lynx
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Soon โ„ข๏ธ can mean up to 7 years, according to the Valve Time Index

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sooner than that

full acorn
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Upgrades

merry moat
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I bough Skyrim today

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That is all, that is my message

full acorn
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Wait... have you never played it before?

merry moat
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Why do you think I bought it? Xd

full acorn
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Could have been one of the multiple versions or a different platform

merry moat
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Picked it up at CEX for 6 quid - on the Xbox store itโ€™s 35

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Kings of Leon sex on fire was the paying in the shop comically

full acorn
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6 quid damn and you can sell it on for 50p store credit when you're done ๐Ÿ˜‚

merry moat
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Lol

full acorn
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God forbid there be anything other then one small ai on my screen playing valhiem, my frames go... when there is any more or a troll, makes fights so hard

full acorn
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Haha yes ๐Ÿคฃ

untold lynx
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although they released an optimization for distant mountains with the last patch

full acorn
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I found more black forests by the way, but they were not good. I also came across a mountain but I got too cold

untold lynx
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ah well, as long as you can find ore deposits and some more tombs, you'll be fine

full acorn
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Covered myself in some bronze and have me a good pickaxe. I was thinking about finishing exploring the island I am on before heading to the elder ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

untold lynx
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oh you went with bronze armor? I've always used troll armor for the stealth bonus

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sneaky sneaky

full acorn
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I have that too, except the Cape, I haven't come across enough trolls.

untold lynx
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they respawn from time to time

full acorn
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I have found a village at the base of the a mountain and between a meadow and black forest . I was fortifying the place and a wolf ate me... ๐Ÿบ

untold lynx
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it's dangerous to hang out near the mountains if you're just in bronze armor... the wolves do pack a punch!

full acorn
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I was about to take Alfred out and there's a worm on the bottom of my shoe ๐Ÿคข

full acorn
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And another one bites the dust

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@untold lynx Skyrim stealth archer build here I come. On that note, random, don't touch a bow or no matter how hard you try, you will be a stealth archer. It's a slippery slope

untold lynx
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and the finewood bow is such an upgrade!

full acorn
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Wait until I upgrade the 4th upgrade the 4th upgrade that's like 16 upgrades...

untold lynx
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I mean over the first bow

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which is like

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two twigs and a some boar guts

full acorn
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Yeah no I just had deadpool in mind the first bow was... well I preferred my spear

untold lynx
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the spear is nice, but it breaks down so quickly

full acorn
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I was close to base a lot so it wasn't much of a problem for me. I liked the dual use of it. I might add the copper axe, now that goes down quick and the pickaxes though... need I say more

untold lynx
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it is well worth upgrading axe and pickaxe

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especially if you use your axe as a weapon (which I do)

full acorn
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Yes I'm working on it and I do, because of the limited inventory. I found a 3rd black forest by the Mountain (too cold for me) and I'm going to get all of the ore once I get back.

untold lynx
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what's your map look like now?

full acorn
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So I've decided to place a load of pins, House for structures I've built. Camp fire for abandoned shacks and towers. The orb for biomes (as the black forest doesn't look too different on the map) and the stone thing for troll caves and burial sites. I makes it look like there is something in the world at least I'll send a photo when I'm home.

untold lynx
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no hurries haha

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time for me to turn back into a pumpkin anyway

full acorn
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9 to 5 huh... tencent not got you on the 996 yet? ๐Ÿคญ

full acorn
merry moat
full acorn
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Went exploring, got hunted by a goblin party who were specifically hunting for De4d got drained by a deathscito and observed a vox from AFAR

untold lynx
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ooh you've encountered some plains. Exciting!

full acorn
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No, no.

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Terrifying is more like it.

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I died several times Trying to recover my items...

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I need to find a swamp apparently

full acorn
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I am thinking of heading to the elder... I assume I will find a swamp. I just want a boat and not some logs tied together with my back hair ๐Ÿ˜…

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It would be fun doing this in 38 too!

full acorn
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Well, I died in a troll cave and everything is gone

full acorn
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Well I think I'm done with the game until it comes out of preview, I lost everything again I tried using one of the restore data but all of the structures I had built were gone after that. I'm pretty annoyed.

untold lynx
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when you lose all your stuff, the best way to get it back is go for a corpse run with good food (so you have stamina and hp), and just dodge everything in your path

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you have an invulnerability frame in your dodge roll that's honestly pretty generous, so you could have grabbed your stuff from your grave even with the troll there, provided you dodged at the right time! ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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No, it's gone. I got there but there was no grave. I tried using the restore save feature and all of them say I'm on day one and all the structures I have built are gone. All portals the boss trophies I hung up and all of my chests.

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I have one restore where my character has a few items but all of the other saves have nothing on my character and all world saves have reset.

untold lynx
full acorn
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Apparently it's a common problem on xbox currently

untold lynx
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yeesh, that sucks

full acorn
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Very much so, I will probably make a group post and beg for supplies from someone ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

untold lynx
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always nice to have a hand-me-downs chest for this specific case ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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I kept all my old armour, it was in the chests at my base. Which is gone.

untold lynx
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tbh messing with the saves was a bit of sorcery you probably shouldn't have tried

full acorn
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I only tried it because I had lost all of my stuff already. At least I still have half a copper axe...

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And some low level troll armour

untold lynx
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if you need another basic pickaxe, eykthir shouldn't be that difficult now ๐Ÿ’€

full acorn
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Thankfully I have my finewood bow however, I had recently beaten the elder and now I have to go back to him.

untold lynx
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he is annoying but not too hard

full acorn
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I did him first try, it was just the getting there being the annoying part

untold lynx
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have you found the merchant yet?

full acorn
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Nope I haven't really gotten too far around my map and now I have been set back

untold lynx
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met any friend in the ocean?

full acorn
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Thankfully I haven't come across any big oceans yet

full acorn
#

@tribal saffron Do you have pokemon home, I'm looking to see if I can move pokemon there

tribal saffron
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Yeah I got Pokรฉmon home to work

full acorn
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I'd have to pay to transfer from the bank I found out... Sigh. I'm thinking about getting a switch but idk if it would be worth it...

full acorn
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My Garchomp, I just got the mega stone for it too

untold lynx
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not even stats? Just "the best" everywhere ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

full acorn
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The grind to make it perfect like Cynthia's was unreal. It has the same moves too

untold lynx
#

I believe you! I enjoyed my time playing Pokemon. I'm sure I would enjoy it nowadays too. It would probably be stuff that you very much expect, but with enough new content and twists to keep it fresh. How many new games can actually scratch that nostalgia itch?

full acorn
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New games? That's a good question.

untold lynx
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I guess there's a bunch of 2d farming rpg-lites like Stardew Valley

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that hit similar notes

full acorn
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I enjoyed stardew until I hit it's finite limit of things to do, that's why I like building games a lot. Plenty of new things to build, create and improve

untold lynx
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I mean, there's a lot of mods and expansions for the game tp keep it going

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just gotta hit Nexus Mods and take a look... ๐Ÿ˜„

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unless you're playing on console again ๐Ÿ’€

full acorn
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Not on xbox, only PC.

untold lynx
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ah yes that's always the issue

full acorn
#

Ordered a switch, probably not worth it, I didn't realise the witcher and skyrim were on it though. So that's cool for long journeys.

untold lynx
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not sure how well witcher 3 actually runs on Switch

full acorn
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking, but hopefully it's not too bad for ยฃ40. Switch games are expensive it seems compared to other platforms. But if 38 is good, I'll get it on both.

untold lynx
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if I can make a recommendation, my favorite game to travel with is 80 Days

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there are versions on about every console, and phones, and Steam

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I think Android is a few bucks

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oh wait this is the wrong link

full acorn
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It's okay, Google translates it

untold lynx
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better link ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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I'll have a look. I couldn't find game play on the store. I'll watch the video now.

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There is kinda multiplayer, you talk to your friends about travelling the world after travelling the world ๐Ÿ˜‚ Not sure if I'd enjoy a travelling game while travelling. Seems an interesting concept but I'm not sure if I would become interested in it enough.

untold lynx
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I was just intrigued after the video but I found the possibilities of picking my way around the world, and the discovery of the numerous stories and what happens in the bigger world absolutely fascinating

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to this day, it's one of my favorite games. Let me know if you do pick it up!

untold lynx
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I need to take pictures of the base I am building underneath this mine in Valheim. It is turning out to be quite cool-looking

full acorn
#

The witcher digital edition on the eshop (nintendo) is ยฃ50 I think I got it for ยฃ10 on xbox. I don't even think a small majority of it would go to the developers either.

untold lynx
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I have no idea what the dev/publisher/store cut is on eshop

full acorn
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Supposedly 30%

untold lynx
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in that case that's the same as Steam, so presumably they'd make pretty good money for any copy, especially considering the going price for the same game on GoG or Steam! ๐Ÿ˜„

full acorn
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The cases are so big, it's almost the size of the switch lite

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For comparison

untold lynx
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it's important that people can find your game in the stores! big boxes help! ๐Ÿ˜‚

full acorn
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I suppose... but if they made them like the ds ones they would save 50% space on shipping

untold lynx
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they were shorter boxes, right?

full acorn
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Yeah, I think they were really thick though

untold lynx
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I guess it's a question of perception

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small box = cheaper product

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premium = BIG BOY BOX

full acorn
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After a really long update, I'm able to play it. Looks good.

untold lynx
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that title screen looks like Skyrim's "so you're finally awake" sequence ๐Ÿ˜‚

full acorn
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It's proceeded by a guy always telling you - I see you gathered before me, hungry, terrified... then I skip it's so annoying to listen to.

untold lynx
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I mean it does have an impact the first time

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but holding the player by the hand and not letting go for several minutes can be a bit boring when you're a repeat customer

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and considering that Skyrim is being replayed over and over and over... yeah I guess it does get old fast ๐Ÿ˜„

merry moat
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Problem with RPGs is you ether have unskippable dialogue or cutscenes or itโ€™s all skippable and people complain about a lack of plot (because they skipped all of it)

untold lynx
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that's the problem with interactive media

merry moat
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True yea

merry moat
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Although, I do like when itโ€™s possible to skip stuff, the players choice then - even if they complain about it

untold lynx
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just putting on Lord of the Rings and not giving anyone a choice whatsoever!

merry moat
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Lol

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launches game 38

lord of the rings plays

untold lynx
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best is skippable but with a long key press, so you don't accidentally yeet the important cutscene

merry moat
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Yea for sure

untold lynx
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and then New Line Cinema lawyers would dropkick us into the Balrog's pit

merry moat
#

I think the total runtime is 12 actually

untold lynx
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that was more like, reaction time

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12 is I think extended editions, I think I'd go with theatrical releases for brevity

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"brevity"

merry moat
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Maybe Iโ€™m thinking about LOTR and the hobbit together

untold lynx
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not a big fan of the hobbit movies

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they feel a bit like a fever dream compared to LOTR

merry moat
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Shhhhh

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I just love how they cut so much out to give it a shorter runtime that they could of made another film with it

untold lynx
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and somehow no Tom Bombadil ๐Ÿ˜ญ

full acorn
#

Oh wait I see coolusernamebro brought it up

untold lynx
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one day, I want to do this during a rewatch

#
natecrowley

In February 2018, my wife & I decided to embark on a gruelling quest: to watch all three Lord of the Rings films (extended editions, of course), while attempting to eat everything that got eaten on screen. We were doing it in memory of my parents, who had both recently died, and who had loved both LOTR and good food. It blew up into a bit of a t...

merry moat
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I dare you to do that with silence of the lambs

untold lynx
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I humbly decline

merry moat
full acorn
#

Shiny hunting hurts me on a spiritual level ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

untold lynx
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this kind of completionist stuff has never really been my thing

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it would drive me nuts

full acorn
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It's not at all necessary to the game, I just want to flex it on a particular group of people. That's where I get a lot of enjoyment. Not necessarily being better but just having cool things to flex. But it does make the game last longer...

untold lynx
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oh I mean it rarely is necessary, it's just that I really don't feel attracted by these sorts of tasks

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unless there's a cool quest or some story attached to it

full acorn
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Oh, I get you. I usually don't mind doing monotonous tasks in games as long as I feel the reward is worth it. For example building a massive base in portal knights, it took about 3 months to build and got really boring but now, I have a cool base with a ton of storage for all the cool things I collect portaling

untold lynx
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last game where I quit when I just had a checklist of stuff to tick left was Cyberpunk

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"find this graffiti" like no Sir I will not

full acorn
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Ha, I know what that's like. Try red dead redemption 2, they want you to find dream catchers in trees. Like that's going to be easy without a guide. I think not ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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But I suppose, if you're bored enough but still enjoy the game it is still something for people to do

untold lynx
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ah yes Rockstar games are pretty intense with that too

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letters in GTA, too

tribal saffron
#

Collecting wisps in Pokรฉmon legends arceus is hell

untold lynx
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I mean some people like it

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how do I remember this line 10 years after last playing the game

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this man loved his trash loot โค๏ธ

tribal saffron
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His mother told him the same about him

full acorn
tribal saffron
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Ok thx

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It took me just a couple days to beat sword and I ended with around 20 Pokรฉmon in the dex lmao

full acorn
#

Fr you don't have to stop to level up any pokemon along the way ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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I was a little disappointed, but it may be a good game to just use it to breed and train pkm

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I got all the badges and I just need to do the elite 4/champion whatever they have in that one

tribal saffron
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You have to beat a few gym leaders again and then fight bede again or whatever his name is

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After that you have to go through something annoying and then you can finally fight the champion

full acorn
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Cough spoiler cough

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I'm joking I don't mind

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Also the annoying part sounds about right

tribal saffron
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There's also another annoying thing after you beat the champion

full acorn
#

Sounds accurate

tribal saffron
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Still better than what I'm going through in Pokรฉmon violet

full acorn
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Oh no... I was told you can do the campaign coop tho. I have a person who wants to play it with me. You make it sound like I will have to prepare... mentally! ๐Ÿ™ƒ

tribal saffron
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There's so much to do and you have to prepare for it all. I just beat the final titan Pokรฉmon and now I can't progress in that line until I beat more gyms and level the hell out of my Pokรฉmon

full acorn
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Good luck with that

full acorn
#

About the third day in soft resetting but I could be wrong, the days blur together... my dilemma, I want a shiny starter - I want to play the game. I also feel I have invested too much time to stop now...

full acorn
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It is

untold lynx
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dear diary, today I wrote "sounds rough" twice. The madness has taken me

tribal saffron
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Sounds rough

full acorn
#

I'm just play briefcase simulator over here...

untold lynx
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is that an actual game

full acorn
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Nope, just picking my pokemon

untold lynx
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so that's what Pulp Fiction was about...

tribal saffron
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I want briefcase simulator to be an actual game

untold lynx
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I mean there's Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes

full acorn
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tribal saffron
#

๐Ÿค

untold lynx
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no no @tribal saffron it's the opposite, you gotta talk buddy

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otherwise everyone goes bada bing bada boom

tribal saffron
#

It's actually quite weird if things don't blow up

untold lynx
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depends on the game, I guess

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in Winmine, it's a bad outcome

tribal saffron
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If explosions are possible it's a goal

untold lynx
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I guess we play Winmine differently then

tribal saffron
#

Best Pokรฉmon move is Self Destruct

untold lynx
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you can't lose, it just makes sense!

tribal saffron
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You're winning as long as you're having fun

untold lynx
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very wise words

full acorn
#

I've decided to give up the hunt. I've had really bad luck. Thus I am going to stop when I find a male modest Piplup

full acorn
#

Interestingly back in the nintendo ds days, you could use action replay to make a pokemon shiny after catching it... I wonder if there is a way to do it on with too...

full acorn
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I used to do it on the DS but I was considering doing it on the 3DS now, especially as they have dropped support and closed the eshop for it

tribal saffron
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Oh yeah and now you don't have to pay to transfer Pokรฉmon from bank to home since they closed the eshop

full acorn
#

I paid for it, it was about ยฃ6 for the year, not as bad as the ยฃ12 they want for me to move pokemon from the bank into home

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But up to gen 5 I can get any pokemon hopefully once my SD card gets delivered I can make it any pokemon up to gen 7 which is a lot of pokemon

full acorn
#

Look at this totally cool game I found on switch, I'm definitely getting it.

tribal saffron
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Never heard of it

full acorn
#

Heheh

merry moat
#

Oh wow that does look cool

cold wigeon
#

Wow, it does

full acorn
#

Hey guys, while you wait, consider checking out Portal Knights, Keen Games previous title.

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No one can remember how long itโ€™s been since the peaceful world was torn apart by The Fracture, plummeting it into darkness. Is there any soul brave enough to reunite the shattered realm?

https://discord.gg/kceaRaTANp

true night
#

Portal Knights was a lot of fun

full acorn
#

Isn't it still? ๐Ÿฅฒ

crude marlin
#

My kids still play it (a lot)

full acorn
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I built this on xbox and I'm currently trying to rebuild it on switch

true night
spring mantle
merry moat
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That looks awesome

full acorn
willow atlas
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That's gorgeous! Top notch work

trail edge
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Wait wait wait, theyre the same creator as portal knight??

willow atlas
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They are.

trail edge
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Dang thats awesome, I used to love that game

willow atlas
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I haven't tried it, but I just looked it up, and it looks pretty fun

full acorn
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Yes I am bringing it up as much as possible without trying to be spam like. I am hoping with all the new arrivals, Portal Kinghts gets a little revive, in the meantime while 38 is being made.

trail edge
#

The game had some really good progression and gameplay, makes me incredibly excited to see if that same care transfers to Enshrouded

shrewd thorn
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I'm playing Valheim currently. Curious what other similar style games you guys are playing? I'm REALLY excited for Enshrouded.

full acorn
proud hare
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Valheim, 7days2die, occasionally Conan. Feels more like I'm waiting on something new these days. Valheim having mods does help though.

ruby walrus
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Conan on an off, 7days, Valheim and a few tryouts of other similar styles

viral cipher
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been grinding 7 days darkness fall mod with some friends

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its been pretty fun, lowkey really want to get back into valhiem tho

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stopped before I got into the mistlands

last pilot
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You reached the Mistlands , havent done naything but kill an hare :X Looking forward to look at it and see what's up with the new things they added since they launched that biome. I love how enshrouded building seems better than Valheim

trim yoke
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I done a little in mistlands, but got off before going too crazy. Holding off for ashlands so I have even more to do. Instead of smashing through the content too quickly

viral cipher
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I want to get back in but I had mods and a few messed up, tried fixing it for a while and gave up

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I'll try again soon, I'll just delete the mods probably

viral cipher
solar yacht
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I'm also taking that approach with Valheim. I waited that long for Mistlands, I can wait longer for more content so that it's more substantial and there's more to do when I return.

untold lynx
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I went through mistlands with some friends who'd never played Valheim, the really clumsy kind of friend who makes everything more difficult

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Feels like Mistland became even harder thanks to them deercat_sadthumbs

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and then we built an underground base under an infested mine

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protected from these pesky Gjalls and their incendiary bombs!!

viral cipher
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Oh wow, sounds like fun!

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Canโ€™t wait to explore the mistlands with my buds

untold lynx
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I strongly recommend using one of these online map tools to know where the infested mines are, otherwise you might struggle quite a bit to find them... and you need them for the mistland crafting stations!

viral cipher
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For sure, thanks for the advice fell_love

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Iโ€™ll definitely make sure to do that

vale jackal
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some ss from my most recent Valheim base, here is to hope that Enshrouded will be also fun building experience beacuse there aren't that many good base builders in 3d

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havent played through mistlands patch yet, but at this point i'll probably wait for full release (whenever it is) after 200+ hours cant bring myself to start from 0 again

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although mistlands looks fun, but small updates recently break mods all the time and cant imagine playing without them anymore

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most importantly valheim plus for 4-5x drop rates to materials, playing solo is way too much grind to build bases like this, on the other hand just spawning it with commands breaks immersion too much

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so its nice sweet spot to just raise drop rates

full acorn
#

Wow those screenshots are awesome!

untold lynx
untold lynx
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I don't have a lot of shots of my Valheim builds, but I was rather pleased with this storage room slash hangout area

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it just looked like a nice place to have a drink at after a long day of looting things and getting chased around by trolls

full acorn
#

I'm definitely joking, you guys are making me wanna play again

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I just hope they have fixed some of the problems on xbox...

vale jackal
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first thing that comes to mind when i see those torches is how much pain was to refuel them on vanilla Valheim, it's fun immersion mechanic until it's not beacuse you have too many and it turns into chore, i wonder how Enshrouded will handle it

untold lynx
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you're definitely right about the torches! One of my friends was a torch goblin, he'd put them everywhere!!

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and then never refuel them, so the place was plunged in darkness anyway!!

merry moat
# untold lynx

How tedious is building? Just seen itโ€™s on Xbox so Iโ€™m considering getting it

full acorn
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It's fun

merry moat
vale jackal
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i may be biased but personally it was most fun i had with building base in any survival game

untold lynx
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with a controller I cannot say! but I agree with Black Salami, base building is super fun!!

vale jackal
#

getting materials for big base will be tedious solo, but nothing that cant be fixed with mods (from what i seen from teasers they will also implement changeable drop rates for mats in vanilla Valheim soon tm)

full acorn
vale jackal
#

also good time to ask if Enshrouded will have something similar to building integrity (like valheim) or just build wherever (like fallout 4) ๐Ÿค”

full acorn
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It would be nice if it does but I can imaging being caught off guard by it all the time and have big blocks of stone and wooden beams falling on me deercat_derp

vale jackal
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i think it's great mechanic, makes you approach building in a different way, with building support beams and all

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although not that big deal if it's not there

untold lynx
full acorn
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sighs with relief

lost basin
untold lynx
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but imagine if your suspended castle that is resting on one tiny pillar of glass gets shattered by an enterprising goblin or something

lost basin
#

i would say shame on the player for not having proper defenses. but that would really depend on if the buildable voxels have physics

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do they?

untold lynx
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see above!

last pilot
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Man you guys have somehow mastered building roofs in Valheim lol. That's the part I hate the most honestly. I started being lazy and just use the /\ shape in one straight line just to save on time. Doesn't look too bad but it's far from being good. I keep one spot in the middle more elevated for my fire for the smoke to exit but that's about it. I also use the hoe and elevate rocks around my base as defense instead of putting stone walls , and I build towers on that instead. Saves me a lot of rock and when Trolls attack they can't throw anything at the base or destroy my walls. My farm in the plains definitely has trenches instead of walls ๐Ÿ˜„

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Curious to see how the roofs are gonna be like in Enshrouded

vale jackal
untold lynx
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some sexy thatching there

vale jackal
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those double beams is something i used for pretty much any build, love how it looks like

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oh and basic doors can do as nice windows

rustic dune
#

Idk if anyone is interested but the new Zelda game is dope looking

untold lynx
#

please do not talk about games that leaked online like you are playing them! That would mean that you are doing illegal things and I would have to remove your message because that's not cool!! Don't be that person!!!

rustic dune
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Oh no I saw stuff about the leaks and how cool it looks

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Should I rephrase?

untold lynx
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that's much better, I'll leave my message as a warning should it be needed for others!!

abstract pivot
#

beat you to it

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๐Ÿ˜›

untold lynx
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sugar rush was bound to eventually turn into sugar crush!

abstract pivot
#

this is looking pretty good....my other favorite ultima retrospective vid was spoonys interviews with richard garriot

abstract pivot
#

wow thats cool that key codes and game time cards were started with UO

umbral yarrow
#

anyone waiting for Nightingale?

trim yoke
#

Yes I am

mortal leaf
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Me too
Waiting for Blight: Survival and Rooted aswell

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oh and Moon Mystery

rain cargo
#

40K Sith Lord.

slender torrent
dense frigate
vale jackal
full acorn
#

#the-tavern message

#

Kind of like skyrim, speaking of which, did you end up becoming a stealth archer when you played @merry moat

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I may have to play skyrim again

patent lodge
#

Skyrim stealth archer is god tier, because they use bows, bows are god tier

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#Biased

full acorn
#

Ha

merry moat
#

My very first Skyrim playthrough was mage actually, second was the classic warrior, and uhh there have been a few after that.

My most recent one Iโ€™m attempting a pure archery build though

full acorn
#

I play loot goblin every time I play deercat_derp

patent lodge
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Everytime I go into Skyrim, I'm always thinking I'll be doing maybe a mage, or a warrior, but then I remember how bad magic is, and how wonky the blocking etc feels for a warrior, so I just end up going archer every time fell_hype

merry moat
#

I actually started one of mine purely on solstiem which was a challenge but fun (all enemies there at level 20+, I eventually had to leave to do some of the main questline just to unlock the solstiem questline though

merry moat
full acorn
merry moat
patent lodge
full acorn
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AND THEY CAN CARRY MORE LOOT! fell_hype

patent lodge
merry moat
merry moat
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Like the time I made a fork so strong it crashed the game if I hit something with it

full acorn
merry moat
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Haha donโ€™t tempt me

patent lodge
#

I mean, it's not really a bug that affects "normal" players, like, you have to really go for it with purpose, it's not something you do on accident, so I guess that's why they haven't bothered?

merry moat
#

Perhaps yea, and I guess Skyrim is perfectly bugless in general anyways

patent lodge
#

It's... "working as intended"

merry moat
#

โ€œIt just worksโ€

full acorn
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I do it to have more carry weight usually, for the LOOT! fell_hype or to make the one ring from lord of the rings... it's a lot of fun

merry moat
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I usually do it for stamina regen if Iโ€™m not doing a melee build, just letโ€™s me run everywhere then

fierce light
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I have to ask, is anyone playing Star Wars Jedi Survivor here and is actually able to play more than 1 hour before crashing?
The latest patch did nothing to fix the crashes for me

full acorn
fierce light
full acorn
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Good to know, I mainly was not a fan of the constant parkour between every single enemy ๐Ÿ˜•

fierce light
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What do you mean?

full acorn
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Swinging from ropes, which my character would never grab, running across walls and using zip lines just wasn't that fun for me. It was rather linear too which I also didn't enjoy massively.

patent lodge
fierce light
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Oh that type of parkour is still there @full acorn
It's still a core of the gameplay I would say in many locations
So far I've only been to 2 planets, the first one and the second basically
Now, the second planet is much more open than any other planet from previous game I would say but yeah, still a lot of parkour movement

fierce light
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The only time I exceeded 1 hour of continuous gaming in the game was the first day I played it

patent lodge
fierce light
slender torrent
full acorn
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Chat GPT wasn't very helpful sooo, which class should I go on skyrim? After which I will chose which race.

merry moat
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Spoon only fell_giga

full acorn
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Pffff I might as well use the power of my mind ๐Ÿ˜„

merry moat
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Haha

merry moat
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Sticking with one of the subclasses can be pretty fun, melee for example has different sword types, maces ect

full acorn
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Yeah I did a 2H Nord recently that was fun so I was thinking about going imperials again

merry moat
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Maybe spice it up and only use gear you make

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Iโ€™ve done that a few times and itโ€™s actually pretty interesting

full acorn
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That's what I did and I didn't even have a house I like loot but man that was a struggle! I didn't even fast travel so it lasted longer, still fun though.

merry moat
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Oh god no fast travel, I can see the appeal but I tried it in fallout 4 and everything took so much longer

full acorn
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It's something to do, I enjoy the random encounters and trying to immerse myself more. It can be a little tedious though.

vale jackal
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there is only sneaky archer in skyrim

proper granite
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Wish it were otherwise, but that's the truth

trim yoke
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I've heard conjurer can be OP, just summon daedra for everything and let them run ruin

frozen anvil
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Sneaky archer is what i played on Skyrim lol

trim yoke
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Sneaky archer is what everyone plays, it's just so much fun

proper granite
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I had maxed sneak, maxed archer with a very high crafting and enchanting skill set. One hitting some dragons was a somewhat common occurrence

high willow
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Strange idea of fun

torn zenith
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Full stealth archer until you get found out then you pull out the the big heavy axe

rugged kelp
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Go lore accurate bosmer, in accordance to the green pact, you cannot use or eat anything made of plants.

Stealth only is only fun if you are wearing the jester head piece for the slow mo kills.

errant saddle
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Only betas play stealth archers. Everyone knows heavy two handed is the real man's class ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช

humble marsh
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Testosterone much?...

patent lodge
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If he wants to two-hand a big handle then he's allowed to

full acorn
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๐Ÿ˜ถ

viral cipher
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Ayo

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๐Ÿคจ

humble marsh
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So silly

errant saddle
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g rrrr

errant saddle
vale jackal
#

played few hours of octopath traveler II yesterday, game looks stunning

viral cipher
vale jackal
viral cipher
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For sure, that are design alone will make me play

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If the ost is good as you say Iโ€™ll be more then happy

fierce light
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I think there is a demo for the first game that you can try
Play pretty much the same I believe
Not my type of game, I mostly end up getting stuck in jrpgs or turn based rpg:s in general

vale jackal
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from what i gathered from friends they are only very loosely connected with some few nods here and there

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maybe ill check it out after i finish this one

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and apparently first game was basically 8 separate stories, those characters never interacted with each other, which is a bit of turn off

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what i loved in Trails series for example is how many characters and npc interactions there was

full acorn
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@ruby walrus how goes your portal-ing?

ruby walrus
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Went very well and stream seemed to enjoy it also!

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Was a bit tricky with some quest and not knowing which crafting tool did what crafting for a bit, but I figured it out and made a bunch of copper stuff while completeing trails

full acorn
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You even did the pillars event, nice fell_hype

ruby walrus
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It was an awesome timedeercat_derp

long moth
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guys when is Skyrim 2 coming out

vale jackal
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i ask todd everyday

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he keeps saying "77x the details"

proud hare
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4 days till TotK

long moth
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โ€œover 350 billion lines of dialogueโ€

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โ€œyouโ€™ll forget that this is even a game and think youโ€™re reading the New York Timesโ€

fierce light
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If you want a Skyrim esc game I can recommend Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon
It has a really interesting take on the Arthur legend and a nice lore around it and plays pretty much exactly like Elder Scrolls, so far
It's in early access and was just released almost

grizzled crag
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Fall of Avalon looked and handled like thin dogshit

frozen anvil
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Yea Octopath really does look great...it was weird how i sorta lost interest in the first one after i did all the character stories

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Unlocked everyone ready to roll then it just sorta fell off for me not much of an explanation

rigid gazelle
fierce light
# rigid gazelle its single player, shame on them, releasing such a game without the possibility ...

I prefer it that way
Everything doesn't have to be co-op, especially something that is heavy on story and with simple mechanics imo
Also, balancing a co-op game is very hard and then we have the connection issues that are bound to be there

Don't get me wrong
I love co-op but not all games should have it
A strict single player game is fine
One recent single player game I would like to have seen co-op in is Star Wars Jedi Survivor
It's story heavy sure but the gameplay is the biggest focus

fierce light
rigid gazelle
# fierce light I prefer it that way Everything doesn't have to be co-op, especially something t...

Fair enough, we each have our own preference.

For me a SinglePlayer game needs to be outstanding to be able to compete with the fun i can have in the most basic co-op scenario.... and sadly that game looks nothing of the sort.
No outstanding gameplay, no outstanding graphics.... they talk about the story... but judging by the rest of the game i highly doubt the story is delivered with voice acting, exceptional sound effects that enhance this story or outstanding in other ways. If all u have is a book and u throw it in a barely functional game, ur better of leaving it as a book.

I understand the desire for indie devs to make games, but in today's day and age you need to produce something exceptional if u want to limit urself to single player games.

Just my 2 cents.

timber prism
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Totally disagree. There is def a market for single player indie games

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Not everything has to be groundbreaking and evolutionary. Dredge and Dave the Diver are examples of great indie games that aren't exceptional but the gameplay loop is fun.

full acorn
untold lynx
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I knew what this was before clicking

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oh!! I have a couple of recommendations for really good single player indie games!

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all of them are narrative games, because those are the types of solo games I enjoy the most

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Citizen Sleeper is one

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Roadwarden another

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and most recently I finished Pentiment

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I could give descriptions for each but!! It's an hour past my bedtime, so just trust me on this!!!

full acorn
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I'll have a look for sure

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Well the portal knights server is incredibly quiet (feel free to join it) send me a dm if you want to play it with me. I have it on xbox and switch and I am happy to help with whatever anyone needs deercat_sadthumbs Meanwhile I must go lose myself in some portals!

fierce light
trim yoke
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I've mostly been playing Grounded with my kids, when they're not in trouble and had gaming time revoked. Or playing My Time at Sandrock alongside my wife who is playing it too. We were playing 7 Days to Die together, but got too overpowered and it wasn't a challenge anymore, so instead of cranking up difficulty we're taking a break until alpha 21.

viral cipher
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it will definitely add a challenge, maybe even to much of a challenge.. haha

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I had to tweak the settings a lot from how difficult it was getting!

trim yoke
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I've been watching the Neebs guys play it, think I'll wait for alpha 21 instead

viral cipher
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for sure, I'm hoping they'll add some good stuff for A21

trim yoke
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Looks fun, looks cool too with classes, but I'll wait

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And yeah, waiting on that alpha 21 release. They announced a date yet that you know of?

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All my looking hasn't found one

viral cipher
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not to my knowledge sadly

trim yoke
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Damn. Ah well, back to the waiting game instead

trim yoke
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Has anyone here tried Smalland?

wicked kestrel
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@trim yoke no but I want to, I liked Grounded enough but think I'd get into Smalland a lil more. Have you tried it?

smoky siren
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Has anyone played both enough to be able to say how they differ? I'm really curious

trim yoke
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I've played a heap of Grounded, but no Smalland yet

upbeat wave
trim yoke
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It certainly looks fun

jovial lotus
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Smalland is a very awesome game. It has a lot of freedom in building. You can set building parts upside down rotate then in any way clip them trough other building objects. The world and nature itself is stunning. I never get lost because i recognize al kinds of places. I barely have to use a map. Notting looks the same and there are a lot of points of interests. What makes navigating better. And something that i really love is the gliding wings. ๐Ÿฆ‹

mossy parcel
trim yoke
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As cool as that looks, you should probably find out the rules on self promotion in another games discord

mossy parcel
trim yoke
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I don't know the full rules, just don't want to see you getting in trouble

mossy parcel
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That game is 2 years of work btw. Crazy huh?

trim yoke
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2 years? I can absolutely believe that.

mossy parcel
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Enshrouded is a game I wish I could make.

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When I saw their trailer I wishlisted and was like damn, they do such a good job.

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Nobody would pay $$ for my shit lol.

untold lynx
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In this specific case, I'll allow the link!! Looks sweet for a solo project!

merry moat
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So thereโ€™s a Skyrim quest that requires you to wear a chefs hat

untold lynx
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is that a mod?

merry moat
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Itโ€™s actually not no, I had some creation club stuff active (the special arrows) but the quest is part of the dark brotherhood questline

untold lynx
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dark brotherhood is the one where you murder folks, right?

merry moat
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That sums up most of Skyrim but yes

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You join them by murdering the women that runs the orphanage because thatโ€™s what nice people do

untold lynx
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I've been saying this!!

merry moat
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Given context it makes more sense but Iโ€™d rather confuse people

untold lynx
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so do you bake some ""bread""

merry moat
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Even better, you just tell someone else what to do

vale jackal
ruby walrus
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Beat the Worm boss first try with only taking one half heart of damage on Portal Knights today!

full acorn
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Very nice

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Believe it or not it actually used to be slightly harder back in the earlier versions. There's still so much for you to explore!

ruby walrus
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Dang, that makes me kinda hyped for the next bosses

untold lynx
#

alright friends, Zelda's finished loading, I'll see you all next week! Be nice!!

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(we didn't post that version online because we thought maybe some people could misunderstand our love for Zelda)

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(but you guys are cool so you can see it)

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(consider it a Discord special)

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(bye again!!!)

worn jewel
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๐Ÿ˜†

fierce light
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lol

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Good luck and have fun

full acorn
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I just watched the gameplay reveal for gollem... not sure how to feel about it. Has anyone else seen it?

main urchin
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I've seen bits and pieces of it and im not fully impressed but im still gonna keep an eye on it

trim yoke
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Have not seen it

jovial garden
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any new builder-survival games you guys would recommend to tide me over to this title? already played like 200 hrs of valheim

full acorn
tribal saffron
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Portal knights is indeed very fun

trim yoke
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I don't know, don't have a lot of faith in the developers of Portal Knights...
๐Ÿ˜‰

fierce light
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I have only tried a demo a while back, haven't bought it yet

viral cipher
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Almost beat the whole game on my first run with a hardcore character, but died to one of my mob farms haha

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Almost done with the game on my second run with a friend

jovial garden
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dont get me started on hardcore characters bro I've died on like 20 WoW classic HC characters

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hundreds of hours pi*sed away

viral cipher
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Haha for sure, sure does give it that extra charm though

brave drum
#

One i highly HIGHLY recommend is "The Rift Breaker" on steam. I think you can still DL a free demo. Its kinda like dyson sphere, mixed with sim city, mixed with mech warriors, mixed with they are billions and a techno rpg.... Its a 3rd person shooter/builder but you are in a mech suit and you get to teleport around to different biomes and build bases and defend them. Dev team is AMAZING. Stream the game 2-4 times a week. Take feedback and actually ROLL IT INTO THE GAME.

errant saddle
brave drum
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^ thats no friggin joke. Ive considered geting back into it for all the insane mods that are out for it now. theres a VR one that allows you to actually manipulate all objects and people. id assume alot use it for dirty purposes. but id like to try it for fighting in my living room and punching my fish tank on accident!

fierce light
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I can tell you that Skyrim in VR is very different if they have done a good mod
I have Skyrim VR on PSVR and everything, I mean everything, was so much bigger, from the people to the doors and ofc the sabertooth tiger that attack me from behind

untold lynx
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Zelda ppl! Let me see your weird machines!!!

untold lynx
fierce light
untold lynx
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ok so they've definitely modified the animations to fit arm movement

fierce light
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I mean, I play the official Skyrim VR game so is probably very different from a moded version

untold lynx
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for the best I think!

fierce light
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Though the official Bethesda developed Skyrim VR game is probably just moded as nothing else but the controls have changed really
It's still a pretty cool and different experience from the flat screen version

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I recently downloaded a mod for Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast that turns the game into a VR game
All I needed was my Quest 2 headset and the game on Steam which I already had, then I just downloaded the mod and transfered some things here and there, done
Cool experience, controls aren't perfect but work very well for a free mod

untold lynx
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"I should bust out my Quest more often", he thinks, for the 4327th time this year

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aka "the beat saber machine"

fierce light
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Ah yes, beat saber
Got that one for both PS4 and Quest 2
Though it's easier on Quest 2 as PSVR tracking isn't as good but I still suck at the game on both platforms ๐Ÿ˜„

untold lynx
#

you gotta work your way up the seasons to limber up

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I can play expert easily in the first few seasons, but some of the latter, and some of the modded content is way out of my reach

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some people just move too fast!!

mossy parcel
untold lynx
mossy parcel
untold lynx
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I'm just making a joke because some of your lil guys are blue!!

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your char creation looks really good!

mossy parcel
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Maybe I'll do the female tomorrow. Got to sleep now.

untold lynx
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bye!!

untold lynx
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I'll go first

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I've worked on one of these

magic apex
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DOS2 spotted! That's a good one!

untold lynx
#

whaddyamean

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they're all good ones!!

#

"what type of games do you play, CoolUsernameBro?"
"yes"

strong tartan
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I always have to explain myself when showing my valheim time played or people think I have no life... I mean, not that I do, but I count it as proof of testing mods I make ๐Ÿ˜„

untold lynx
#

holy

magic apex
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Mobile so hours aren't showing buuuut
Also GW2 isn't through Steam for me but it'd def be on the list

open kayak
untold lynx
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I'll forgive you anyway

open kayak
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Endless legend is lower than i expected and humankind was played ona different platform

distant isle
#

What's not pictured: My console game playtime.
My Archeage playtime (which I had installed through the Glyph launcher)
My ArcheRage playtime (private server for the game).
My Archeage Unchained playtime (glyph launcher).

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Double all of my dark souls playtimes, and multiply all of my Runescape playtime by like... 30, to include other versions of the game.

merry moat
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I dread to think what my console playtime is

lunar flame
untold lynx
#

how much of that TF2 playtime is "chasing the good hats to sell them on?"

distant isle
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No, that's all actual playtime.

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Because I never did any trading.

untold lynx
# lunar flame

interesting selection! the modern total wars are rarely people's most played. Couple of names I don't know on there!

distant isle
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I only played the game for fun. The main thing is that when I was young and growing up, I didn't have internet. When I had a chance to play Tf2 on Wifi, I abused it for every scrap of gameplay I could.

lunar flame
distant isle
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Well, I "had" internet... it was Hughesnet. Satellite internet.

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And I had a 500mb daily download allowance each day, with 1,000+ ping.

lunar flame
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Ouch.

distant isle
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And 100kb download speeds.

lunar flame
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Double-Ouch!

distant isle
#

All for the low, low price of $110 a month.

lunar flame
#

TRIPLE KILL!

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I mean...

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๐Ÿ˜›

distant isle
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If you added my WoW playtime though (which can be played off of phone wifi, surprisingly), I'd have... like... 6k hours in that alone, minimum.

untold lynx
distant isle
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xD No no, on wifi. I used to grab my terrible laptop, and drive to a mexican restaurant out in the boonies with free wifi. I would spend the entire lunch and dinner service there, until they limited me to 2 hours of time, then I moved on to another restaurant an equal distance away.

lunar flame
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Oohhh... I do have ESO installed.

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Weird.

distant isle
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Erk, I tried hard to like ESO, but the combat is so clunky.

lunar flame
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Last played: Dec 2020.. 6.4 hours.

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I'll assume I wasn't keen. ๐Ÿ˜›

distant isle
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That's a major selling point for me; combat. Has to be good, or the exploration has to be better.

lunar flame
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Yeah.. Fine examples;
STO = Ship battles, amazing. Ground missions, total ass.
SWTOR = Can't say for ship battles, but the ground combat is excellent.

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If I could completely avoid ground in STO, I would.

untold lynx
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ship battles in swtor were rail shooter sequences

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you either liked them or didn't

lunar flame
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Oof

untold lynx
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I thought they were a bit underwhelming!

lunar flame
#

That already falls into "Do not want" category.

untold lynx
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very much enjoyed Huttball pvp arenas though!

distant isle
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I'm not a fan of Sci-Fi at all. Getting me to play Sci-Fi is hard, but I managed to cram some hours into Desinty 2 and the Halo Franchise, even if I'm not a fan of the FPS genre in general (excluding Tf2, which was just fun).

untold lynx
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TF2 is a third person shooter!!

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you can see your little guy!

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he goes "boink!" and speaks in a Boston accent!!

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very agitated type of customer

lunar flame
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๐Ÿ˜›

untold lynx
#

walked right into that one

lunar flame
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Sprinted* lol

untold lynx
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I have a cat in my lap, nobody's touching this zipper!

lunar flame
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I actually get sad that my bunnies don't like to sit with me. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Anti-social bugs! ๐Ÿ˜›

untold lynx
#

still angry at mine for gnawing on my SNES' power cable over 2 decades ago

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it's shooting electric sparks! What kind of behavior is this!!

lunar flame
#

Yikes.

untold lynx
#

anyway I regret there's no way of knowing how many hours I sunk into Minecraft

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probably not thousands thousands

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but maybe just a couple thousand

tribal saffron
#

Rookie numbers

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If it's not at least 8000 you haven't played much

untold lynx
#

then I'm safe!

tribal saffron
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For now

untold lynx
#

Minecraft feels big and scary now. I played it mostly back during beta days, I think starting on beta 1.3

tribal saffron
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Honestly I played less and less since netherite came out

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Diamond is flashier and strong whereas netherite is ugly and too much of a grind for something slightly stronger

untold lynx
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... I don't know what netherite is

tribal saffron
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It was added a few updates ago and it's just an upgrade to diamond gear. You need to find a bunch of super rare ore and some gold ingots to make a single netherite ingot and then you have to make a piece of diamond gear and put the diamond gear in a special bench with the ingot to upgrade it to netherite

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The rare ore is way rarer than emeralds

untold lynx
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that sounds like a loooot of work!

tribal saffron
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Newer players keep saying they need netherite to beat the ender dragon now but I do just fine on mobile with enchanted iron

merry moat
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Netherite is basically no better than Diamond anyway, all it gives you is more durability and some knockback resistance on the armor

tribal saffron
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And the sword just has 1 more damage than diamond which it insignificant

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Btw fishing is one of the best things to do in minecraft because you can pull enchanted books while getting food

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And since you get xp from fishing you don't have to worry about not having enough levels to enchant gear

worn jewel
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Sorry, on my phone so your getting my top 12. ๐Ÿ˜†

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I'm friends with a couple of the developers of Undead Labs (State of Decay) so that one is probably my go to. I have 2 Easter Eggs in the game. One of my favorite games is the Indie Game "Impact Winter", a single player survival game. If I had the Assassin Creed games on here, I think those would actually be in 2nd place.

tribal saffron
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Jedi fallen order was super fun

worn jewel
tribal saffron
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I beat the story with only 1 more heal than the default because I was too lazy to get any more heals by hopping through every planet

worn jewel
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๐Ÿ˜† now that is funny but I totally agree. I haven't played the new one but I heard it's a lot better than the 1st one.

lunar flame
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I actually didn't know that was a thing.... Me like. ๐Ÿ‘

worn jewel
lunar flame
#

It gets better...

proper granite
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Some non steam stuff (e.g. Eve Online though I "won" several years ago, Star Citizen, Division 2, BF2142, Asherons Call back in the day) in there as well from an hours played perspective.

lunar flame
#

I've been tempted to try out Eve Online, but.....

proper granite
lunar flame
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Lmao

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I know it's a time sink.

proper granite
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You have a true gift for.... understatement

lunar flame
#

Stellaris is bad for that too.

lunar flame
proper granite
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I played pretty hard for 8 or so years.
Told myself I was having fun.
The things I missed while 'hunting' players in wormhole space is a list I can't begin to write

proper granite
tepid wadi
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Or, if you want a good old space game, play Freelancer

lunar flame
proper granite
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Hehe

lunar flame
tepid wadi
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Data Analysts at big companies get paid the big bucks

lunar flame
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Yeah, but it's actually more tedious than my current role.

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At least webhosting was dynamic.
Always something new going on.
More to learn. ๐Ÿ˜

tepid wadi
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Fair

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EvE is an interesting beast. When you're playing it at a low level it's not really 'spreadsheet simulator' but as your ships and goals get more advanced it drifts closer and closer to it.

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Then you die to a gate camp and lose all your shit and quit playing.

subtle prairie
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I love eve. I just hate the devs.

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I still have a dreadnought sitting in a keepstar somewhere or wherever it got spit out into low sec space.

proper granite
subtle prairie
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Nice. Mine was in deep nullsec and unless things have changed in the last few years if reddit got overrun by goon I'm probably somewhere low sec near minmatar/amarr space.

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But I have no clue cause I haven't logged in. I used to live in paragon soul lmao. Like. The real boonies.

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But I stopped playing around the same time as you most likely. 2018-2019ish

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I used to have such high hopes back before they killed Wis and dust514

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Devs blow money on dumb shit and over monetize.

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And have no idea what they're doing anymore

tender spade
#

Top 10...kind of surpised Subnautica didn't make the list, i spent way too much time building random bases all over the ocean...i didnt even really want to escape!

untold lynx
untold lynx
# subtle prairie I love eve. I just hate the devs.

devs themselves usually have to compose with a host of constraints that they can do nothing about it, and they do the best they can under the circumstances! Please let's not hate on devs for things outside of their control... actually let's not hate on devs here at all! Plenty of internet space elsewhere for that, including r/EVE!

subtle prairie
# untold lynx devs themselves usually have to compose with a host of constraints that they can...

Well its not outside their control. They self published their own game after they bought their rights back. They could do whatever they wanted. And for years they made bad choices. It's simple as that. I'm not hating on anyone. It's valid criticism.
They tried to make a second mmo world of darkness. Sunk millions into it. Canceled the project after years without ever launching it.
They made ccp Shanghai, sunk millions into opening a new studio in China with new devs who being from China had no experience with foreign consoles cause consoles were outlawed in China, not to mention it was late into ps3 life cycle. Promised it would tie in with eve online plantary production, never linked it outside of molden heath. Never ported it to PS4, or PC where it arguably should have been from the start with most of eves player base. The community was so vocally outraged by lack of progress they put it on life support with a skeleton crew run by ccp rattati and after a few qol changes closed the game.
Tried to revamp the game from scratch on PC instead of building on the good ideas they had with dust that the community actually liked and the reveal for the revamp was universally panned (Project nova at this point) and was shelved again to be revamped in the future as project legion but never heard from again and canceled.
Launched a VR fighter game called eve Valkyrie which went no where and died.
Canceled walking in station amid lack of progress in eve itself and over monetization of clothing items (monoclegate) and blamed the community over backlash for overpriced items and said this is what the community asked for with WIS.
Project gunjack for VR.
Eve mobile.
Made an eve trading card game
Closed ccp Atlanta which was the world of darkness studio. Etc. Etc.

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Ccp has a track record over the last ten years or so. And it's worth noting eve online is still my favorite online game next to RuneScape and dust514 was my favorite fps.

viral cipher
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It seems like the whole Valheim community is gathering under this game right now

subtle prairie
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Probably because of the trailer showing off parts of the base building

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That's what got my attention and keeps people in valheim building castles and such

icy spoke
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Any OSRS PVMers in this channel? Would like to do some raids together ๐Ÿ™‚ Feel free to contact me in privadt ๐Ÿ™‚

untold lynx
# subtle prairie Well its not outside their control. They self published their own game after the...

this will be my final word on this: none of the stuff you said is on the devs themselves! They hold none of the decisionary power there! It's like thinking me, three raccoons in a trench coat and with access to our social media back end, will decide to spin up a new studio, snatch up a new IP, or decide who works on what.

I know CCP has a player base with a long list of grievances, real and imagined. I mean I created my first EVE toon back in 2009, I've been following the drama for a while. Poor business insight, short-sighted decision-making, etc, they've had it all in spades. But conflating devs and the people in charge at the studio is doing the devs a grave disservice, and trust me, they've already suffered way more than enough for it.
Now let's please move on. fell_smort

untold lynx
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As valhiem is a great game, and I'm doing another play through now, I think the reason so many are looking at this game is cause it looks to be starting something new, and exciting, not the same old building survival....I've been looking at new games over the last few years, and this one has my interest along with a couple other, Nightingale, Derelicts, Rooted.... all look very exciting and really can't wait for testing, and EA....

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I mostly just like messing in unity, so valheim is a playground for modding with me, but I'm pretty excited about this game over others. I mean knowing that it's built on a custom engine I probably wont be modding it, but it also makes it exciting to see how it turns out.

simple topaz
strong tartan
# simple topaz should try "Satisfactory" in Unreal 5.2 ๐Ÿ˜›

heh you see this gameplay being done on UE5?
https://youtu.be/5qvVNzsJyB0

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simple topaz
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yes....like this one better, also in UE5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF5RJcqujz0

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strong tartan
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yeah waiting on that one also, looks sick

jovial garden
lunar flame
mossy parcel
full acorn
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Wild, blowing the dust off this game

full acorn
fierce light
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Haven't had it happen but I'm guessing you guys killed his horse and then just went up and stabbed him while he was lying down which results in a critical strike

full acorn
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Yeah, I was just surprised we both got it, I've never see it before looks awesome

fierce light
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That's true but I think that was due to you hitting slightly before your friend
Or it can be due to the enemies size

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As it's quite hard to get a boss into those kinds of positions I haven't had it happen to me

tribal saffron
bronze frost
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OOOF.

full acorn
full acorn
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Sooo, I am going to be doing a new run on elden, as a wretch. If anyone would like to play, I'll be on xbox starting in approx an hour.

vale jackal
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waiting for dlc to play er again fell_cry

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and ill still gonna end up doing greatsword str build for 1000th time

tepid wadi
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I did a runthrough with the randomizer + seamless co-op mod. It was super fun with a couple friends

full acorn
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I bet, the worst part is being called in constantly ๐Ÿ™„

full acorn
brazen pilot
merry moat
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Got Valhiem today, the graphics on the Xbox version definitely donโ€™t match Pc fell_cry

Does have a bit of a charm to it though

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And yes my first screenshot was me doing mass deforestation

full acorn
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You're gonna love it, it's so fun!

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That's a statement!

trim yoke
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How many trees have killed you?

merry moat
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1โ€ฆ it was my first death

It settled down then randomly jumped around, reminded me of the cars in fallout 4

trim yoke
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Always a good feeling when you drop one and it starts a domino effect

merry moat
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Oh yea, I only cut down one of these

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Yes, my second screenshot was also of trees

merry moat
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What the heck is that?

trim yoke
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Giraffe

proper granite
trim yoke
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Giant neck, that's what I said, a giraffe