#the-tavern

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brazen briar
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I wanna get that too

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Did u look into it?

plain cloak
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added on whislist πŸ˜„

brazen briar
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Hav u ever played a dungeon crawler before?

plain cloak
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i don't think so

brazen briar
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Well.. it's not exactly jus a dungeon crawler, but yet another genre influenced my the great minds at Fromsoft

plain cloak
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diablo is a dungeon crawler?

brazen briar
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Inspired style of the long lost Kingsfeild games

brazen briar
plain cloak
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or grim dawn

brazen briar
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Its not top down at all

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Nothing like either of those

pliant quarry
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diablo/grim dawn are usually called ARPGs

brazen briar
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Yeah! Thank u Toasty

plain cloak
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say a game that is actually a dungeon crawler than

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like a famous one

pliant quarry
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dungeon crawler is a much more vague genre, honestly games like diablo would probably still count

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but roguelikes and stuff also kinda count

plain cloak
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because on steam even hades is a dungeon crawler

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or path of exile

pliant quarry
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yeah those would both count I'd say, it's a pretty broad genre

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also steam tags are a nightmare and super inconsistent lol

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they're all user defined so they're all over the place

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There's also some really popular genres that are just... missing tags. Like all incremental games get labeled "clickers" even though a lot of incremental games aren't clickers

brazen briar
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I guess u could say the genre is a kingsfeild-like but unlike "Souls-like" it isnt an official term on Steam so it jus gets classified as a dungeon crawler

plain cloak
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so if it's a game where i need to die 14323423 times and repeat the same level over and over again, is not a game for me at all. if it's a game "diablo" style yes i can play it

brazen briar
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Thought u might still die.

plain cloak
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like The Binding of Isaac? than absolutely not!

brazen briar
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As is the case with gaming

pliant quarry
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Binding of Isaac style games are roguelite/roguelikes, where dying makes you reset. That's probably the kind of genre you want to avoid if you don't like that kind of gameplay. Hades and Risk of Rain are other famous examples

brazen briar
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Oh too describe it to make sense..

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It's not a Roguelite tho, I can't stand roguelites.. I hate RNG really puts my bad luck in life on display for me

plain cloak
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the roguelike game that i have played is called tesla vs lovercraft!

pliant quarry
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roguelites my beloved fell_love

plain cloak
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not for me 😬

brazen briar
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That game looked very fun

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But I am scared of my bad RNG ruining it for me.. again-

plain cloak
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I just don't have any luck when it comes to RNG

brazen briar
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This why Lunacid and the games like it is a blessing for me, all the weapons are exactly where they are everytime, no RNG jus fun, exploration, buildcrafting and a gud time

plain cloak
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yesterday in final fantasy 14, on 12 roll the highest was 12...

brazen briar
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No external forces or fates acting upon my enjoyment

pliant quarry
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I think the trick to making roguelites fun is embracing the RNG as part of the skill. Well designed roguelites give you ways to play around RNG. You take advantage of it when it's good to take more risks and gain more power while you can, and you find ways to survive when you're not getting the things you need.

Bad roguelites are ones where you can't really manipulate the RNG at all and you're kinda just along for the ride. I don't like those ones.

brazen briar
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Returnal is a fun game

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One my fav PS5 bullet hell shooters.

plain cloak
brazen briar
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But its an aweful Roguelite

plain cloak
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i saw it on streaming.

brazen briar
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The penalties are debilitating and sometimes run endingly bad.

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And the more u play and progress the more items are likely to spawn with higher chances to give u these debuffs.

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So it feels nigh impossible to ever start a build later on vs when jus starting

plain cloak
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I prefer to farm the in-game currency and buy things myself because I'm not lucky anyway

brazen briar
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Theres a very rough cap on that in Returnal

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Caps at 15

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And to purify cursed stuff so u dont get debuffed

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It can cost u 5 of them

plain cloak
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When I was playing Diablo 3, I had to wait 12 seasons before I finally managed to get a staff...

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and I played it every single day...

brazen briar
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Returnal has the absolute best usage of the PS5 hapticks and dynamic triggers tho

plain cloak
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i'm still waiting on my steam controller to be shipped...

brazen briar
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Its gonna be a while.

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I expect it may take upwards of a month or more.

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I dont think they were expecting to sell out within 30 minuted.

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Wholely unprepared.

plain cloak
brazen briar
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I didnt even kno it released

plain cloak
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i post it on other game channel!

brazen briar
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If u think Lunacid looks gud maybe look at "Verho - Curse of Faces"

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Or another coming soon called "Hark the Ghoul"

plain cloak
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i will check them out!

brazen briar
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Hark the Ghoul has a free demo available

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Maybe try that game demo out and then see if u find the genre enjoyable

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I think the genre these games are in are fanastic at making exploration feel fun, it reminds me of how the world of Dark Souls 1 is so interconnected.

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But.. again, not a "Souls-like" jus an example of great map and world design

plain cloak
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have you played wukong?

brazen briar
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Yeah i didnt finished it

plain cloak
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i menage to finish it!

brazen briar
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I got to the showy mountain, fought a big boss in a bell.

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Then no matter where I went i couldnt find wat to do to progress..

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Or was it a big dragon on a lake i fought last..

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But i spent 3 days exploring not finding where i jeeded to go and quit playing

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Same happened too me in Sekiro

plain cloak
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sometimes is really confusing yes..

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like the ACT4..dear Lord i could not find the exit

brazen briar
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Is that the snow mountain?

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Cause daz where I got stuck

plain cloak
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no, after

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snow i think is chapter 3

brazen briar
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Wat do u do after the dragon on the lake?

plain cloak
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i don't remember lol!

brazen briar
plain cloak
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i have a gold fish memory,just 8 second than it reset!

brazen briar
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I will maybe go back to it someday

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And Sekiro too

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I wanna restart in Sekiro tho.. I wanna unlearn the vault over skill.

plain cloak
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you play on pc or ps5?

brazen briar
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It removed my favorite thing of jumping off their head and getting air finishers

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I can still do it but is less a fluid motion too do

spark musk
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Have their servers always been this bad, or is this just a recent thing? Tried 3 different hosts now and even hosting it myself and ALL of them have been slop. Even had one put in 32GB of ram for it and the server still sucked.

Is this just bad coding on their part?

pliant quarry
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What issues are you having exactly? "Slop" isn't very descriptive.

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But no, not everyone is having problems, a lot of people are playing without issue.

spark musk
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All of the players, 3-5 at times have had issues. Sever Overload warning have been on every single server.

Nothing we have done has alleviated it, changing hosts, self-hosting, changing server physical hardware, nothing has helped.

Mobs teleporting, can't even blink/dodge roll, can't even mine half the time. Sever reseting does nothing, warning message starts again immediately.

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Is it just this poorly optimized overall? I can't understand how every server we have tried, even different hosting options, has had the issue. You basically can't play the game outside of single-player.

pliant quarry
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That's not normal, no, though without seeing details about the server hosts it's hard to say why you'd be having such bad luck. Is your friend group very scattered geographically? Do you have high pings to the servers?

spark musk
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Ping isn't an issue, it is just the server coding for the game code it seems. None of us indirectly show poor ping, but the server constantly... like 24/7 has SEVER OVERLOADED in the bottom left, permanently. Doesn't matter how many, who, where they are connecting from. The server itself just does NOTHING but spit out error codes and issues constantly.

This has been like this for 3x major content updates for over 2 years now with multiple different server hosts. I am just confused how this can be this horridly optimized and not fixed after 2+ years. I know it is the game too, because it is multiple players, across different regions, and it has been 3 different hosting options across 3 different parts of NA... yet it is the same error set and the poor server performance loop every time.

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We have even relaunched a sever multiple times in the past thinking maybe it was the server. We did a fresh start, new file, and new characters for this latest update and still the process repeats of just horrid server performance.

I have give up doing a blink build for my caster because I can't even blink. I just end up teleporting into the mob's face... makes it pretty useless play then. My buddy can't even double jump correctly most of the time.

pliant quarry
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What server hosts have you used? I mean you can say that it's just the game all you want but I'm telling you that this isn't normal lol, the majority of people hosting servers are not having constant server overloaded errors.

spark musk
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I have tried Nintrado sponsored servers, we have tried self-hosting local machine, and we now have a buddy trying a 3rd remote host right now.

pliant quarry
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Did you ever reach out to support for the server hosts? We obviously aren't in charge of how companies like Nintrado manage their servers, but they shouldn't really be offering server packages that get overloaded from normal use

hybrid oak
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After playing ark official for so many years I'd really recommend gpotato over nitrado if that's an option

spark musk
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And even at 32 cores it is just a sloggly slop of a server.

pliant quarry
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Yeah if that's what they're giving you it's very odd that you'd be getting overloaded messages, people are running servers with way worse hardware without issues. I think we'd need to take a look at your server logs to see what kind of errors are being generated, here's instructions on how to find those (section 5) https://enshrouded.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/9767167725853-Reporting-Bugs

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I'd also reach out to nitrado support directly, I'm not what you meant by "posting" but they have a customer support portal, from looking at their website

noble anchor
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I have the server set to 16 slots.

pliant quarry
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That is weird, but you don't notice any performance degredation?

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maybe send me your logs too if you can

noble anchor
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Sometimes we get lag when it shows up, but not all the time. We haven't played on the server in a while, when we do (which will likely be 1.0) I will send logs if we see it again.

plain cloak
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even on depot server with one person there is the overloaded messages

pliant quarry
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the shroud depot I can kinda see that being the case given that it's a server that's basically stress testing the game lol

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But yeah, if people are getting constant server overloaded messages, I'd be very interested to take a look at their logs.

shadow osprey
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I am in the Hollow Halls with the rooms full of enemies. I killed every enemy but the barrier ahead doesnt open. Can someone help me?

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I killed some enemies behind a door before it was opened, maybe that bugged the game out...

spark musk
plain cloak
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@pliant quarry i have hosted the game on saturday for my friend to join while i was building the library, my friend on the first connection got a error server not found and got disconnected, but than we had 0 problems till we went to bed so after 3 hours.

hybrid oak
gloomy tiger
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I run my own server on Linux. Way easier lol

pliant quarry
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It was an issue I rarely heard about and suddenly today everyone in chat was saying it was happening to them

misty abyss
hybrid oak
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Hey I'm not getting server overloaded messages, but my game has Compiling Shaders in the bottom corner, is there anything you can do about that? /j

pliant quarry
crisp loom
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Hey, does anyone know if tamed animals will try to escape a skybase and try to unalive themselves?

spark musk
pliant quarry
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Yeah I believed you, but no it's definitely not par for the course. At least not on appropriate hardware.

spark musk
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My admin just tried it on Windows even of the Linux version and it was still rough. Only time we didn't have an issue so far was for an hour when they did a direct host on their local machine using their desktop. But that is horribly unrealistic to expect someone to host a direct local machine 24/7 for a server for people to use.

He booted back to the previous version on Windows instead of Linux though and we immediately all 3 got Overload errors within 20 seconds of being in the server again.

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We just gave up and went back to dealing with the overload errors for now sadly.

pliant quarry
spark musk
pliant quarry
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Ah like virtual machines?

spark musk
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No, actual server stacks.

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He has a linux kit, an windows kit, and a couple desktops.

pliant quarry
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Ah I understand. Sorry when I think of local server stacks are also included in my brain πŸ˜…

Yeah that's unfortunate. Let me know if they can ever get those logs

spark musk
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He tried it on the linux sever-errors, windows server-errors. Only time we didn't have any errors was him hosting on his desktop directly.

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Both windows and linux were errors with in like 20-30 seconds of lanuch even too.

spark musk
patent dirge
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I suppose you've been in server-support here before? The server needs speed (aka. GHz) more than ram and lots of cores, which explains why the desktop pc hosted one was more stable, server CPUs tend to be way slower than desktop CPUs.

pliant quarry
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Yeah some of the people in server-support know a lot more of the intricate details about optimizing servers than I do

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I will say you're not the first person I've heard who had problems with Nintrado. But I've also heard their support is decently helpful if you reach out to them.

hollow ether
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We get 'server overload' more often than I care to admit. My wife hosts our game over "friends" on Steam.

patent dirge
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I've had a server on nitrado for about half a year, basically no issues. With update 8 something broke and I had to restore a backup, they switched the VM from a Epyc to a Xeon and now its getting sluggish and laggy with 3 people. fell_cry

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Didnt bother with support yet because we're only ever 2 ppl currently, and the occasional visitor but we can handle that. When the other friends get back into the game I'm gonna have to do something about the situation tho

spark musk
patent dirge
spark musk
hollow ether
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Dang.

patent dirge
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Moxy, you can laugh at me all you want, but youre just spreading misinformation.

Sure, there could be even more multi-threading possibly, but there already is. Saying it only allows single-threading is just plain false information.

spark musk
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It cannot support multi-threading in server options. There is that a better way to say it?

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My buddy has been stuck at a single core forever with the game, multi-threading isn't an option for him. Unless there is a super secret setting that we don't get access to.

hollow ether
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Enshrouded is using an average of three cores on my system.

patent dirge
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Because this happens automatically with the scheduler and some black magic OS side stuff I suppose.
You can clearly see how many tasks the game starts in every log you look at, be it server or client side.

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And the task system seems to be doing just what it needs to be doing, because when it says its using 15 threads to compile my shaders it damn well does so. And it says exactly that in the logs too.

spark musk
patent dirge
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This is from my server log:

[I 00:00:00,098] [task] TaskSystemSetup: [I 00:00:00,099] [task] mainWorkerCount: 2 [I 00:00:00,099] [task] Group 'Default' Worker:10 Main:2 [I 00:00:00,099] [task] 0: Task-Default00 00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000 [I 00:00:00,100] [task] 1: Task-Default01 00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000'00000000 [I 00:00:00,100] [task] 2: Task-Default02 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,101] [task] 3: Task-Default03 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,101] [task] 4: Task-Default04 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,101] [task] 5: Task-Default05 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,102] [task] 6: Task-Default06 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,102] [task] 7: Task-Default07 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,103] [task] 8: Task-Default08 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,103] [task] 9: Task-Default09 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,103] [task] Group 'Background' Worker:8 Main:0 [I 00:00:00,106] [task] 0: Task-Background00 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,107] [task] 1: Task-Background01 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,107] [task] 2: Task-Background02 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,108] [task] 3: Task-Background03 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,108] [task] 4: Task-Background04 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,109] [task] 5: Task-Background05 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,109] [task] 6: Task-Background06 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,110] [task] 7: Task-Background07 00000000'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111'11111111 [I 00:00:00,111] [task] Group 'Shader' Worker:0 Main:0 [I 00:00:00,112] [app] start creation step Init

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it does.

spark musk
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Then you have a magical server client for hosting. His has been stuck at 1 core for over 2 years thru dozens of different version and updates.

patent dirge
spark musk
patent dirge
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Like I said, I had no issues with the Epyc CPU VM on nitrado for half a year, capped the slots at 5 while paying for the midspec 8 slots server and we never had issues.
Now i got switched to a Xeon CPU and its starting to go down the drain with 3 ppl. Sometimes even just 2 when theres lots happening

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I have no idea what the core usage looks like tho, I cant check that.

noble anchor
hollow ether
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I've heard Xeons are a bad choice for Ensh servers. That was my experience when I tried to self-host.

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A self-hosting that spanked all four cores my server was allotted.

patent dirge
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Xeons are just generally "slower" in terms of clockspeeds which would explain that, yeah

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I dont have a log from the Epyc CPU VM anymore, but currently the server is running on one of these... and 2.6GHz is... well, slow:
[I 00:00:00,032] CpuInfo: [I 00:00:00,032] Type: Intel [I 00:00:00,032] Vendor: 'GenuineIntel' [I 00:00:00,032] Brand: 'Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6348 CPU @ 2.60GHz'

spark musk
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On a completely different subject, is their any news on them fixing the "if I touch anything I lose all my stamina and die isntantly" bug?

pliant quarry
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If you touch... anything? That is definitely my first time hearing about that bug lol

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what triggers it?

spark musk
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Gliding and I tap the wall or ceiling, instant loss of all my stamina and then fall to my death.

noble anchor
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I mean... I've run into things and dropped like a stone to my death, but it never drained all my stamina. It just stopped my glider and I hit the ground before I could open it again.

spark musk
hollow ether
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I call that the "Fwoosh PSSHT!" maneuver.

pliant quarry
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Yeah the stamina dropping is new to me, if you can find a way to consistently reproduce that let me know how

safe frigate
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hello

nimble oar
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@pliant quarry I'm enjoying the new combat system and armor upgrade system.
Are you guys planning on making any changes to the gem system or adding more gems or adding gems to the armor?

carmine scroll
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I believe they are. they've gotten a LOT of feedback on it.

pliant quarry
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Yeah I don't think it's something we'd never touch again, but I don't know the current status, it has been a while since I talked to the designers about them. I made sure they saw the community feedback about them, though (there was a lot).

pliant quarry
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What do you mean?

plain cloak
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there was not a lot of feedback, just a bit 😬

nimble oar
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Yeah, it's a pretty divided system. I like it. But there are definitely some improvements and additions that could be made (as made known by the past feedback).
Real talk, tho: Most major updates, i go back and make a new character on a new world to see how the game plays with the new at the time things. It's so much fun starting over every time!

plain cloak
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πŸ˜Άβ€πŸŒ«οΈ

pliant quarry
plain cloak
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it was a joke lol!

sturdy siren
hollow ether
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H-hey...... when did our characters stop Muppet-running on stairs?

pliant quarry
plain cloak
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Toast,Tomorrow you off as well?

pliant quarry
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Technically it's not a public holiday for me but I took it off because I didn't want to be all alone lol

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so yes

torn harbor
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Are there any plans to fix/change the weird character model sizes?

vocal escarp
nimble oar
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Another question - I know this is also a divided topic. But, is there any conversations going on about potential rideable creatures in 1.0 and beyond?

pliant quarry
# torn harbor Are there any plans to fix/change the weird character model sizes?

Changing the base character model proportions would also mean changing every single outfit/armor in the game, not to mention all of the animations associated with all the weapons and such. It's not that we don't care about player feedback, we know that some players don't like the more non-human proportions our characters have, but the amount of dev time it would take to change them just... doesn't seem like it would be worth it, honestly. At the very least, it won't be happening any time soon.

pliant quarry
plain cloak
torn harbor
nimble oar
carmine scroll
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I vote NO mounts. Ever! MWA HA HA HA HA HA >:D

plain cloak
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oh oh... you summoned him now!

carmine scroll
nimble oar
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lol

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All I know is.....Evil never wins in the long run! lol

carmine scroll
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i do think mounts wont have much use, even if you can summon them at will.

plain cloak
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you will deal with that now πŸ˜„

carmine scroll
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as for the gemstones

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GOD I HOPE THEY FIX THEM

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and the fishing.....

nimble oar
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fishing isn't bad......
when I turn on easy mode. πŸ˜›

carmine scroll
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the RNG pulls are broken right now.

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the mechanics are fine.

pliant quarry
# carmine scroll i do think mounts wont have much use, even if you can summon them at will.

Honestly the team kind of agrees. At least, relative to how much work they'd take to add (lots of animations, modeling, QA testing, etc.) That's part of why they haven't been added yet, other things have felt more impactful.

I don't think they'd be totally useless, but they're definitely more of like... a rule of cool thing, than something significantly game changing.

carmine scroll
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i DO like the way it works. even if it does take a little long.

carmine scroll
faint saddle
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No no no.....Something Akin to GW2 Skyscale

plain cloak
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i also agree no mounts, but i want a little pet with me!

faint saddle
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I ridable mini dragon

carmine scroll
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IF we DO get mounts I want a pet tiger to ride.

plain cloak
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a fluffy purring machine i would be happy

nimble oar
faint saddle
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I want a Nightmare like in Ultima Online

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Oh crap......a Flamesteed

carmine scroll
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portal knights had mounts?!

nimble oar
carmine scroll
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we're not getting flying creatures.....

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I DO NOT REMEMBER THE MOUNTS

plain cloak
carmine scroll
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y'all lie!

faint saddle
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Well.......Skyscales kinda spent most of it after reaching max height........Just gliding, or Falling with style

plain cloak
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i think if i remember right around 20? i can be wrong eh

nimble oar
carmine scroll
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OH WAIT IT DOES HAVE MOUNTS

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I HAVE FORGOTTEN

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i must have found them useless. >_>

nimble oar
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you prolly did.
but, they did add jump height

carmine scroll
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ya, i have a bunch of them running around my main world. i totally forgot! ha....

nimble oar
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lol nice!

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Nice that you have a bunch running around that is.

faint saddle
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See ya later....Heading out to work

nimble oar
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hope work goes well!

carmine scroll
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im tired. can it be friday today?

little wren
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opa

plain cloak
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The NPC can open the secret passage door?

hybrid oak
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Hi, my name is Bethany, I'm level 35, and I just died falling from a roof in the springlands.

nimble oar
carmine scroll
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ha..........

nimble oar
carmine scroll
plain cloak
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i lost the count how many times i died while building my village

hybrid oak
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I haven't died at my own house yet I don't think

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so you've got me there

nimble oar
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πŸ˜›

carmine scroll
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im still holding off on doing any really cool building stuff until we finally get a flying cam

nimble oar
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the devs have that ability. πŸ™‚ become a dev.

carmine scroll
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or use cheat engine or builders companion

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but im waiting for 1.0

plain cloak
nimble oar
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I'm super stoked for 1.0!
that floating island has got my kids and I very intrigued

nimble oar
hybrid oak
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I haven't built my own base yet, I just fixed up an existing structure

plain cloak
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i have died many times to build my base

nimble oar
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maybe we should have a death count steam achievement lol

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die 100x while holding the build hammer lol

patent dirge
hybrid oak
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haha

nimble oar
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ROFLOL

hybrid oak
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oo

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my room got dark from cloud cover at the same time the sun was starting to set in-game. This game is so immersive

carmine scroll
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nice

hollow ether
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Does your name imply you are only kind of Endalrin?

As in 'How are you feeling today, Kaibeth." "Okay-ish, I guess."

carmine scroll
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something like that

stable sequoia
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Hey there!

hollow ether
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Hi.

nimble oar
misty abyss
carmine scroll
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oh im joking.

misty abyss
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nah, you arent, time to run

rm -rf ~/projects/enshrouded-mod/
carmine scroll
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calls toast we got a live one, GET IM

nimble oar
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i remember the devs talking about awhile ago that they were getting the game ready to be modable. So, this is really cool to see!

carmine scroll
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not any time soon

ripe bramble
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howdy

nimble oar
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Soon is now...apparently!

misty abyss
hybrid oak
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I think there are a few mods here and there that people use but yeah nothing supported

rose blade
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hi everyone !

nimble oar
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Ok. I guess the mod support the devs referred to is not the same as the mods we get from nexus mods?

wanton folio
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Well a mod can exist without dev support

misty abyss
wanton folio
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It's just piles better if they do since they can provide API and such

hybrid oak
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Yeah I dunno, I haven't looked at or used any

wanton folio
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I have done mods in games that support it.. eso....

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But I won't here if there is no oversight

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As in I've used them lol not made them I'm dumb

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Don't code

misty abyss
nimble oar
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I've used mods from nexus mods for kh3. Had ablast doing that.
Now I'm excited to see mods for enshrouded!
The mod I linked above: https://www.nexusmods.com/enshrouded/mods/91
covers alot of QoL like increased stack size, infinite flame altars, level 100, more skill points, etc.
Sounds way exciting!

misty abyss
nimble oar
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True. Still a pretty stark difference in how the visuals are.

warped tartan
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Hi @ all πŸ™‚

hidden roost
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Hi beautiful people.

When I first bought Enshrouded it had a lot of potential but it lacked in some areas so I put it down to play Valheim some more.

I have a quick question about Enshrouded that a veteran might be able to answer.

Enshrouded has updated quite a lot and I'm wondering if the map is persistent now? When I first played I did a lot of clearing, farming and exploring then I saved and got off. The next day though I get on and I had to re-explore the map and everything I cleared away was back, a total reset of the map. My skills and builds where still there but clearing the map and exploring reset. Is this still like this?

quasi saffron
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But... but I'm not beautiful... deercat_sadthumbs

hidden roost
quasi saffron
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break

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Or to give you an example, what if you play with 4 other people but those people cannot wait to deforest a root without you.
Well, bad luck then! You'd need to make a new world, get there, deforest the root because your's won't respawn.

hidden roost
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I would just make important things respawn

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Thanks for answering though! Just not the game for me, that's the only thing holding it back

quasi saffron
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What would be more important than easy access to ressources.

quasi saffron
# hidden roost Thanks for answering though! Just not the game for me, that's the only thing hol...

I'll say, it'll probably then for awhile still then. I'm team #leteverythingandeventhecrittersrespawn
But I get where you're coming from. Sadly, I may inform you that what you want would cause the following:

  1. Every iteration that has been made from the vanilla map needs to be saved.
  2. This saving of a new state fills up your save-file.
  3. You'll get after awhile a safe-file that big it can't store / properly load anymore.
  4. You'll be annoyed/angry that your world is trashed.
hidden roost
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Every survival game does this other than enshrouded.

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Just invite friends and talk to each other before doing stuff.

quasi saffron
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They've got both groups trust me.

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And also, most of these other survival games doesn't feature really "important" quest objectives that'd need to respawn, like for example crafting stations that you find in the world.
Not to mention, some loot needs to be shared / quest progression is not shared by just standing next to one another and/or you need to loot a specific chest...

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Guess they'll work on it, but it being their own self-made engine that improves on the flight, it'll take time.

hidden roost
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They just need to learn from Valheim in this regard.

nimble oar
# hidden roost Hi beautiful people. When I first bought Enshrouded it had a lot of potential b...

Persistent-based and voxel-based games refer to different, though sometimes overlapping, aspects of game design. Persistent-based refers to a world that continues to exist and evolve even when a player is offline, often focusing on long-term consequences. Voxel-based games use 3D volumetric pixels (voxels) to build fully destructible or modifiable environments.

Enshrouded is a voxel based game. That won't change.

As Vulpine said, everything inside your flame altars will stay however you left it. Everything outside your flame altars will be renewed when reloading into the game.

cedar jetty
cedar jetty
nimble oar
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AI Overview says:

Valheim is persistent, but it is not a true voxel-based game.

Here is a breakdown of how the engine works:
Persistent World: Valheim is highly persistent. Any changes you make to the worldβ€”such as building a base, cutting down trees, or altering the terrain with a pickaxeβ€”are saved and remain in that state permanently.

Not True Voxels: Unlike Minecraft or Enshrouded, Valheim does not use a 3D voxel grid for terrain. Instead, it uses a 2D heightmap.
Limited Terraforming: Because it uses a heightmap rather than true 3D voxels, you cannot create tunnels, caves, or floating overhangs in the terrain itself. You can only raise or lower the terrain level up and down. While some elements, such as destructible boulders, can act similar to voxels, the overall terrain is restricted to height manipulation

hidden roost
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Voxel games need a bit more upgrades, gotta look out before I buy one next time.

cedar jetty
hidden roost
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I want to do anything I can and it leave a lasting mark, like if I remove an entire mountain, stays gone.

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I'm weird I know. I like to do things in games like Valheim or Enshourded that I can't irl.

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Build massive castles and clear the surrounding area so it's a perfect circle around the castle.

nimble oar
cedar jetty
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the engines aren't quite there yet, but if you give enshrouded a chance, you'll find it is very close to this level of persistence. Just gotta use the flame altars and such.

slender lantern
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Overlap your 10 altars and you'll have a ridiculous chunk of map...

cedar jetty
slender lantern
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But permanent changes would require an entire overhaul of the game and its systems - so that's definitely never going to happen

hidden roost
sturdy siren
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There's a limit to how many you can put down

hidden roost
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A perfect grid so to speak

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Oh cmon..

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Always a caviat..

sturdy siren
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But fully upgraded ones cover an enormous area

hidden roost
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Maybe mods..

nimble oar
wicked current
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With all these updates, do they plan on adding more to the character creation? Like more hair colours or facial shape, ect.

nimble oar
wicked current
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Oh weird, I just made a new character and didn't see anything different

nimble oar
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I could be remembering wrong. Maybe it's still a future thing they want to add. I just know they've talked about wanting to make changes. I thought maybe they had already, but maybe not.

carmine scroll
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I need a mohawk in the game.

carmine scroll
quasi saffron
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Just a warning. deercat_sadthumbs

fierce willow
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Today i Discovered the Wonders of Cosmetics ...
Im wearing a cute Wolf Armor now .. almost like my fav skin in Fortnite xD

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so funny

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Looks soo good :3

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to who ever designed that: i love you 🩷*(in a platonic way)*

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the Armor Designs are Peak (visually)

fierce willow
timber needle
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helloww

candid escarp
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got a guide or clip? I'm also an old and this is is not much fun

hollow ether
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The sun rises in the north and sets in the east. What does that mean about the rotation of the planet?

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Okay, it was actually South-Southeast.

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Makes a little more sense.

hybrid oak
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Maybe it's not a planet but a giant floating island like all the little ones everyone makes to build their bases on

hollow ether
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Judging from the high-elevation platforms my wife has made, it certainly is square.

hybrid oak
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Haha yeah true

somber phoenix
drifting fiber
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@candid escarp i dont have a clip (dont understand how to video in game) but i can talk you through it well enough

neat minnow
cunning narwhal
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i do wish we were not so square

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but i think that it probably is an engine limitation to only be able to build squarely, like placing down the altar and only having that plane to build on at pretty much all 90 degree angles essentially

hollow ether
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I know of a game where building plots are circular, but there's a square area around them that is "shared plot' space that then, if you cancel one plot it will remove anything in the corners of the square region. Very weird the way they decided to do that.

cunning narwhal
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that does sound odd

candid escarp
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I cannot recall a sadder EA experience but am relieve it is over

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I use OBS for recording, took a bit to set up but works great!

granite magnet
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Is there any reason for why an altar can't be placed? I'm only 1/4 altars, its highlighted blue, it's giving me no kind of error or reason it can't be placed, but when I try to place it, I just get the 'thunk' sound and nothing happens.
edit: Solved it. Had to reload my save.

neat minnow
# granite magnet Is there any reason for why an altar can't be placed? I'm only 1/4 altars, its h...

You may be too close to a non build area. If you are near Ancient structures, they have their own build radius that can't be built within. you also can't place an Altar if enemies are near by. Or, you could just have a weird bug that sometimes dosen't let you place one for.....whatever reason. If that's the case, I would suggest trying to delete it and make another one. has worked for me in the past when I couldn't put one down.

drifting fiber
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@candid escarp good to hear, if you ever wanna chit chat just hmy

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hmu*

terse estuary
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hi

umbral shadow
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bonjour

vital topaz
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Good morning deercat_derp

boreal orchid
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Hello Frog_happy

patent dirge
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Good morning β˜• deercat_derp

faint saddle
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Good morning/Evening

coarse monolith
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Morning,

guys, does anyone know what "Combat Camera Assistance" does? Im trying to find a difference but the camera seems to behave the same with and without it.

tame seal
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I have absolutely no idea, i don't see any difference. Which leads me to 2 conclusions. It's either an unfinished/not fully implemented setting or as it's in accessibility, you'll probably only notice it if it's something you already have a problem with. 🀷

lone lodge
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can i use the big foundation block under foundation to make a basement?

faint saddle
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yes

lone lodge
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i see some ppl do it in vids but when i try it it doesnt allow me to remove anything?

faint saddle
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Don't use the "Y" key option. You have to manually remove it

lone lodge
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i can only do it with the things under terrain

faint saddle
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Ooops...........Been typing up forms all night and now I can't seem to manage a sentance without an error

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You talking about clearing the floor?

lone lodge
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ooh nvm, i first need to place a block and then remove it

faint saddle
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yup

lavish pasture
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hi

plain cloak
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so quiet today! Guten Morgen, meine lieben Flameborn!

patent dirge
carmine scroll
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its a german game though.

plain cloak
carmine scroll
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oh i always thought meine lieben meant "my life!"
huh. strange.

plain cloak
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And as always, the Germans are complaining! @quasi saffron @patent dirge fell_cry

quasi saffron
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Would post a GIF about it but it wasn't nice enough so I do the german thing and just stare in quiet. deercat_derp

plain cloak
carmine scroll
burnt olive
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Hi guys

patent dirge
plain cloak
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For me yes!

patent dirge
carmine scroll
quasi saffron
tame seal
quasi saffron
tame seal
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Neither is Coin, but that hasn't stopped you. fell_smort

quasi saffron
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Nothing can do that.

patent dirge
plain cloak
patent dirge
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Internet outage deercat_derp

gilded remnant
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Hey hey

steady bolt
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btw just saying, a permanent 2 hour debuff with no cure, is just stupid.

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i literally lost a friend playing this because of it :/

steady bolt
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not sure what its called but it limits your time in the shroud by alot

sturdy siren
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Fell curse? There's a cure

steady bolt
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nah its not the fell curse, i think its the meteor scroll? lasts 2 hours

sturdy siren
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Yeah turns out that weaponizing the shroud isn't good for you, who woulda thought

steady bolt
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🀣

sturdy siren
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That is a hella long time tho

steady bolt
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it is for something that cant be countered

sturdy siren
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Yeah, besides not using it. Which you can't be expected to know the first time, and the wording on the item description doesn't explain it clearly enough. Just sounds like it's a one time shroud timer reduction to me

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But be careful, it drains your remaining time in the Shroud upon usage.

patent dirge
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I mean, now you know.
Go basebuilding for 2hrs or do something that doesnt involve shroud diving, there is so much to do.

sturdy siren
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If you start fishing now, you might have 5 fish by the end of the curse

still forge
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Hello

wanton folio
# steady bolt it is for something that cant be countered

It can be countered...1. don't use shroud magic (lol), 2.there are gear sets,potions and skill points for increeasing shroud timers , 3. turn off curses in settings and 4. do something outside the shroud..really, what is it about humanity that says "I've been denied something, now it's the only thing I want', lol. Like not all the game is in the shroud.

hybrid oak
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Yeah I used that scroll on accident too, thinking it was an experience scroll

sturdy siren
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It's a learning experience scroll

hybrid oak
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😭

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It was early on so it knocked my shroud timer down pretty short and I didn't notice until I was actually in the shroud and got the timer warning to get the h*ck out

carmine scroll
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Shroud Meteor strikes again! fell_giga_chad

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(but ya that 2 hour debuff is insane)

coarse monolith
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I use it all the time aswell, im just waiting for the debuff to run out^^

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also, I, a very smart archer, just realised I use a puncturing gem but a shroud bow with blunt arrows...

azure path
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That is interesting cause the wiki on the shroud meteor shower doesn’t mention how long that debuff lasts only that it drains your shroud timer. I assume you use this in non shroud areas.

sturdy siren
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That would be most ideal

sudden gull
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Hi everyone. Anyone else harvesting blueberries getting plant fiber in return? I'm farming the berry bush seedlings and get only plant fiber.

obsidian ridge
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I mean shroud damage is only effective against enemies outside the shroud anyway
It is frustrating the first time, but there is so many ways to replenish and increase the timer. I dont really see the problem to get penalized if you use the thing you want to destroy (also shroud beam is the only shroud spell worth using lol )

obsidian ridge
hearty mauve
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Hello everyone

glacial cloak
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i have become the holy diver. dio noises

noble anchor
glacial cloak
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Other paladins look at me and they're like oh wow that's the best paladin i've ever seen and i even own a mirror. wow.

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i really need a mace that has some lights on it though

carmine scroll
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a light mace would be cool.

glacial cloak
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I'm only level 15 so I was kinda assuming one would come along later.

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The Holy Diver Dio Light Bringer with a human skull on the end

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And maybe it also occasionally procs flying bat companions

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πŸ˜„

mortal ridge
hybrid oak
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lol yeah, I had just picked up two experience scrolls in the same area around ||a pillars of creation camp||. My brain went "Oh wow another one! This must be the biggest exp scroll haul in the game, wait what was that?" without reading that time

carmine scroll
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theres like, one. ish. nothing golden though.

sharp ravine
plain cloak
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i update the driver today, you know what this mean?

steady raven
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yo, I have a question about some of the terrain/biome changes made in the new update, which channel should I ask in?

wanton folio
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enshrouded chat maybe?

quasi saffron
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Never update your driver unless you bonked it!

plain cloak
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they are for forza horizon 6 so i did!

mellow condor
plain cloak
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i do all the time!

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the only things is not up to date is the bios that come out a month ago but is not required for my cpu.

quasi saffron
mellow condor
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I understand the humor, and absolutely, it is funny. ^-^

all we need is one person with a little spice, and we have a miscommunication. just wanted the information out there for them. XD

quasi saffron
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I mean, I don't salt my GPU

fierce willow
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Heya .. anybody here playing Enshrouded?

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NYO my cute giggle gif!

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DAMN YOU ALL

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dies crying

plain cloak
fierce willow
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Looks good .. but is a bit wonkey attimes .. canrecommend tho 8/10

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better then tripple A games xD

plain cloak
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never hear of that! i should check it out!

steel pagoda
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Graphics are dated and super old looks like a game from 2010 from what I’ve heard ☹️

quasi saffron
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Never looked better

fierce willow
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when do we get a son gokus and peter griffin skin ? xD

wanton folio
wanton folio
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or am I missing a joke πŸ˜‰

steel pagoda
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Enshrouded has amazing graphics

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Looks like irl

wanton folio
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well that makes more sense then enshrouded looks ike it's from 2010

quasi saffron
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Wow. Nobody laughed.
I tried so hard to find this gif.

peak sage
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I need to be able to mirror interior items

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the stairs only go up counter clockwise

wanton folio
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tis true would be nice to have the stairs mirrored

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though I've lost a bit of love for them after finding out the npxs won't use them πŸ™

hexed furnace
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lots of room for improvement, i am hoping for real print on the signs instead of floating text that shrinks and disappears

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but overall i am having way too much fun

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finally my dream of being a mole and digging a network of tunnels has come true

undone kite
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Isn't the actual tunneling aspect of this game so good?

hexed furnace
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my friends are like "where are you" and im like muhahaha find me if u can

undone kite
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It's so easy to dig tunnels that are size-appropriate for our characters, and the addition of being able to move while swinging our pickaxe

hexed furnace
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its everything i wanted from ||valheim||

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i dug out a big cavern and made a waterfall like zora's domain and i cant stop

steel pagoda
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I am so glad they added 2 handed swords

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It was much needed

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Perhaps spears someday would be cool

hexed furnace
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yes i keep looking for a good one i can put a fire gem in

glacial cloak
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how about machine guns though?

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ok fine but how about whips?

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ala indianer jonez

humble lance
#

Hey is there a roadmap for enshrouded? just landed here

violet socketBOT
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Enshrouded Roadmap

Don't see a feature you want on the roadmap? Create a suggestion on Featureupvote!

Image too small? Here's a direct link to the image.

hexed furnace
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need a blitzball type weapon for my wakka rp

thick obsidian
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Hey

halcyon lantern
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How to diffenciate server quests from personnal quests now that there's no more Ambervale vs Flameborn, anyone knows?

drifting fiber
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@halcyon lantern to my knowelege its auto placing those in teh missed quests category, and unless you enable individual progression, they stay "missed" down in their own section now

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so when you join a server, the quest log auto updates to "the furthest progression" and all other quests go to the missed section now for "personal progression" if you enable personal progression then all teh quests get reset to your own position, and certian items and things in ppls bases you cant "use" until you catch up

warm stag
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heyya

frank mango
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is there a server where i can just grab building blocks?

violet socketBOT
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Shroud Depot Resource World
In-game server IP: enshrouded.gv80.me:15639

frank mango
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theres a password?

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@split schooner

split schooner
hollow ether
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Another five hour shader cache processing experience for my wife.

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Well, so far it's only been four hours, but she's at 76%, so, minimum of five isn't an unreasonable estimate.

neat minnow
hybrid oak
hollow ether
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Only on occasion when the precache downloads. She got a new version of Kubuntu today, which means a new kernel, which means new video drivers, which means a shader load.

hollow ether
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She feels hours of waiting is a good tradeoff to avoid the occasional stutter as shaders build.

hybrid oak
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She has the patience of a saint

hollow ether
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She married me, didn't she?

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This same process sometimes takes five minutes.

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And my wife corrected me. We are currently at the six hour mark.

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98%

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lol

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The anticipation is palpable.

neat minnow
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what kinda baked potato is she playing on?

hollow ether
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I7-8700K

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And an RX 9070 XT.

neat minnow
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CPU hold up

hollow ether
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It does the same to my Ryzen 3700X.

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We told the shader processing to use all but two cores on our systems.

neat minnow
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that's mighty slow tho, even for those specs

hollow ether
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And it beats the living hell out of those 14-in-my-case cores every time this happens.

neat minnow
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Mine uses 9 and it usually takes about 10 minutes.

hollow ether
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This is one of two ways.

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This process takes five minutes or five hours for us. THere is no in-between. ANd it seems random.

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She's up now.

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I'm gonna go get her up from her nap. lol

static reef
hollow ether
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No.

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I went in and said "Dear, your game is running."

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ANd now she is happily crafting away./

static reef
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I meant during the final minute wait :P

hollow ether
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My wife was napping. Why would I make noise?

neat minnow
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Ooooh. Linux... That might have something to do with it.

hollow ether
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I can't imagine why that would be.

neat minnow
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Because it's not "native"?

hollow ether
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It doesn't seem to notice.

neat minnow
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6 hours to compile would disagree

hollow ether
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And our performance is such that people in here talking about how bad the game is optimized baffles me.

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I have had shader processing take hours in New World in Windows too.

neat minnow
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Yeah, preformance once running should be fine.

hollow ether
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So, Windows does it too. Least to us it does.

neat minnow
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I can't speak for W11, screw that noise.

hollow ether
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I'm not precaching shaders any more, so hopefully I don't need to worry about it.

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And this was Windows 10.

neat minnow
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That's what I use.

hollow ether
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I, sadly, need Windows for VR and use 11.

neat minnow
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Praying for Steam OS to be a "full" release... Then I can ditch Microslop for good

neat minnow
hollow ether
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Are they actually making SteamOS a desktop distro, instead of just bespoke for the Steam Machine?

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If a piece of gear says -1.7s Revive Duration does that mean I revive them 1.7 seconds faster? That's what I think it means.

neat minnow
hollow ether
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Yeah. I wondered about running it on "Any PC."

split schooner
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I have reached a point of frustration where I think I may need to move my big ass base or at the very least completely rebuild my cathedral which has taken weeks because of a stupid red line. SO I think I need to play something else for a while.

hollow ether
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Will the Stupid Red Line move with 1.0 release?

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Is it THAT SRL?

split schooner
# hollow ether Will the Stupid Red Line move with 1.0 release?

I have asked CUB but haven't heard back. If it will that will help. I want to hear back before I start rebuilding the damn thing for the 5th time. Not kidding I have restarted it that many times and I am so far along now even have some interior dine. It would SUCK to have to move it.

hollow ether
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That is gorgeous. I hope you can find a resolution.

hollow ether
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That green and purple really work together.

split schooner
hollow ether
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I like it. It's spooky yet inviting.

patent dirge
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Good morning β˜• deercat_derp

plain cloak
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Morning!

faint saddle
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Good evening. I know it's morning, but I just got home from work

hollow ether
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Good time of day.

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I'm a little less than an hour from top of descent. πŸ˜„

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πŸ™‚

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This is..... not my flight sim server...... sorry. lol

misty abyss
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the friend requests and dms have calmed down, im free from notification hell

outer sigil
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Good morning Folks, now that Shader compiling has finished, it's time for an new journey. Looking forward to it !

obsidian ridge
split schooner
obsidian ridge
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also there was a public holiday yesterday in germany so chances are, a lot of the people at keen took a day off today too

carmine scroll
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Im VERY curious to see what happens to those red lines after 1.0 drops.

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will the text simply change,
will they let us explore further out?
i mean let us explore too far and we fall off the edge of the map.

split schooner
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this line isn't an EA line. It's around a POI

carmine scroll
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im surprised we still havent seen any updates with all those structures.

split schooner
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they are saving them for 1.0

carmine scroll
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ya.

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probably something with the castle

obsidian ridge
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maybe teleport stations to the stuff in the sky?

carmine scroll
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i hope we get that building block.

split schooner
carmine scroll
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oooo

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🀀

split schooner
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I know because I have plyed with them using Builder's Companion

carmine scroll
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im avoiding using BC until 1.0 drops

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if we dont get a flying cam for building by then ill have to use it.

split schooner
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if Turk gets BC working with the prop replacement I will probably do a few updates to my city... including putting some skeletons around

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I also need to make the taver porch one block deeper so the cats can get around the open doors.

carmine scroll
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i want to put stalactites on my floating island base but i cant do that without a flying cam.

carmine scroll
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nooooo dont be meeaan to meeeee

split schooner
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git gud

carmine scroll
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I REFUSE

split schooner
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I haven't made any in my base yet because I bet I need to raise the ceiling a bit

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well I know I do... the cathedral is scraping the ceiling

carmine scroll
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I did make a BIG floating rock with a bunch of small ones around it and i want to make more but creating and removing platforms ia a pain.

split schooner
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meh not that bad, it's what I do

carmine scroll
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but with a flying cam i wont have to spend all that time.

chilly wadi
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Good day flameborn

split schooner
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nope.

misty abyss
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btw subnautica 2 dropped yesterday, it looks so good

plain cloak
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Which red line you guys are talking about?? I'm confused πŸ€”

split schooner
carmine scroll
split schooner
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If you go to my share (Gothylvania) and go to the cathedral the red line is directly behind it.

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I mean you can't see it unless you have the hammert and permissions but that's where it is

plain cloak
plain cloak
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I will checking feom home, my mobile can't handle the creative corner screenshot πŸ˜‚

split schooner
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It has a big ass skull rose window and gargoyles all over it, can't miss it

plain cloak
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I'm blind πŸ˜‚

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Is my phone, Samsung color are not so great i can't see. I will check from my pc later

split schooner
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From the forest shrine go through the big green entrance. Take the right turn, then the left turn. Down the stairs and right at the first road, it's at the end of that road

plain cloak
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(poor phone 2018)

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I have 3 wishes only for 1.0: the possibility to move the flame, that the npc don't get stuck or jump from a cliff, mage being a mage

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Btw i like your cathedral @split schooner it turn very good, you did an amazing job!

split schooner
plain cloak
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Also the light, how you place them . Very good!

plain cloak
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Otherwise in Nier replicant village will be with dead npc floating in the middle of the village

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My fear is they will add something where i have my construction zone 😐 i hope not... They added a mountain last patch.. i had to dig half of it out of my way

versed gulch
split schooner
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I feel like moving falmes is the least of my problems. Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

misty abyss
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im afraid of getting 1 of my friends enshrouded, he spent 400h in valheim watching the "beautiful flame" in the chimney and campfires

he was at base for 400h 😭

he will find the flames in enshrouded or something else and just look at it for hundreds of hours

split schooner
misty abyss
split schooner
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If he enjoys it does it really matter HOW he enjoys it? I have spent WAY MORE than 400 hours in my base.

misty abyss
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fair enough

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time to get him gear so he can look at trees all day 😭

split schooner
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I think I am envious of his pharmacopia

scarlet mountain
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Something I sit on top of my base and watch the sun go up and down. For an hour or two. With the music playing. So your friend enjoys the game like other do. πŸ˜…

carmine scroll
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youre envious of his bath and body products?

split schooner
carmine scroll
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Ya. i did a google and got confused.

split schooner
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I think I am little closer to the '60's than you are... not that the '70's and '80's were much different really.

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Come to think of it, the '90's had a lot of pharmacopia too

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oh to be young

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and suitably altered

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CUB would porbably point his gun at me about now so I will stop[

carmine scroll
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i was born in 88 fell_cry

patent dirge
fluid mirage
tawny whale
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Hello!

split schooner
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I graduated high school that year I could be you mom

noble anchor
pliant quarry
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How goes everyone's fries day

woven copper
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The week went by too fast I'm having trouble to ketchup

pliant quarry
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that's tragic plain fries are sad

patent dirge
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Whadayamean? Its been weekend since wednesday deercat_derp

quasi saffron
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I am sad but that's Aioli.

quasi saffron
pliant quarry
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What do you mean "handled"?

quasi saffron
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I mean... Is the game not sold there for example or uh... What is the alternative.

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Just curious. deercat_derp

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China does not like the depiction of bones because it brings bad fortune

mortal ridge
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You mean like how spiders are now walking marshmallows?

quasi saffron
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Yes

pliant quarry
quasi saffron
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Found just the idea funny to do it like World of Warcraft:
Replace all skeletons with bread.
The Unbread.
The Hollow Bread.

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Would be a funny nod to you Toast. deercat_derp

pliant quarry
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I looked into it further and I think a lot of Steam games operate in a legal grey zone in China. We technically don't have a local publishing license (η‰ˆε· - bān hΓ o), and it sounds like to get one of those the game would likely have to remove things like skeletons, but the majority of Steam games don't get that license and Steam operates relatively normally within China despite that.

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I guess a lot of foreign games are technically illegal, but not practically illegal, the government doesn't enforce those laws much

quasi saffron
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Interesting. We learned all together something new today! fell_smart

mortal ridge
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So no unbread? πŸ™

quasi saffron
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My bread idea is still on the table Toasty. We need some good Scavenger Toast Hawaii fell_smort

stone helm
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Silly question maybe.

But is there a way to tweak settings at all so that you can keep Rested even after death?

My bestie hates losing rested on death, so I was hoping there was a way to make the game keep it for him.

quasi saffron
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Sadly no

lament monolith
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So games in China cant have skeletons??

pliant quarry
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It's complicated. Bones/death have big cultural implications in China, and there have been cases where some games have had to remove/censor some of the death/violence in their games in order to publish them in China, like removing skeletons scattered around the game world. This generally only happens with really big games from big publishers, though.

carmine scroll
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weird. skeletons arent that scary.

spare bobcat
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Hi nice to meet you!

rose crest
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I have an amazing idea. Portraits. I would love it if the bard could make "paintings" of our characters that we could hang on the wall. Like basically just our avatar, but stylized into an oil painting style, or whatever. I'd love to have a gallery with portraits of everyone in my group.

patent dirge
noble anchor
violet socketBOT
#

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rose crest
plain cloak
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Halle flameborn!

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Hallo blue, hallo everyone!

pliant quarry
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Hello πŸ‘‹ deercat_cozy

plain cloak
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Hey Toast how is going?

pliant quarry
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Pretty good, most of the company is on vacation for the public holiday so it's a slow friday for me, how are you?

plain cloak
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yea today in the office there was like 20 people only... I'm not so great to be honest, i have soo much pain on my back , i could barely walk in the morning

quasi saffron
carmine scroll
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time to play video games but i dont know what i want to play.

pliant quarry
neat minnow
plain cloak
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Wednesday i was basically okay, yesterday i wake up and i could not walk, also today.. Tuesday i have the appointment with the doctor to check the results of my MRI

neat minnow
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I've had issues with mine for years on and off. I constantly get pins and needles down the outside of my left leg, one toe is completely numb.
Dumb pains all over that all come from the back. Only fix is cortisone injection or surgery, and I'm not having either.

plain cloak
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i did a surgery 2 years ago, i don't want a second one

neat minnow
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Yeah, I ain't doing it. Too many people end up with more problems than they went in with. And a cortisone injection only masks the pain for a few months which can lead to doing more harm. I'll just deal with it day by day.

mortal ridge
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Is it just me, or is staying on the path one of the hardest things I will every have to do in my life?

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Hug for the both of you! As someone with chronic backpain, I can relate. Hang in there!

plain cloak
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ah thank you! so kind from you! hope you are fine as well!

mortal ridge
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I am doing alright, all things considered. πŸ™‚ Thanks!

red yew
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What is the DEAL with animals walking up to walls and getting stuck in them forever? My God, can we just have animals that aren't a PITA finally.

mortal ridge
red yew
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Yea others are ok, last time I played yaks kept walking through walls now they just immediately go to one and get stuck

mortal ridge
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Yep.. They get stuck on literally anything

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I believe the devs are working on the pathing. So they at least acknowledged that

red yew
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That and attacks queuing are my only real issues

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The attack queuing drives me nuts, hate that

pliant quarry
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Pathfinding is never easy when the paths that need to be found are player created and can be literally anything πŸ˜…

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But yeah NPCs/pets getting stuck in weird places is something that's on our radar for sure

red yew
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I would jump for joy if I could turn off being able to que and attack so that I attack 3 times without touching the button

mortal ridge
# pliant quarry Pathfinding is never easy when the paths that need to be found are player create...

I get that, but how does that work for things like walls/floors from the preset? I understand that it is still player created, and I don't know anything about game design, but I would think that they would "recognize" the preset buildings, in some way, right? I might be totally off though.

Because I build a yak house, with just walls and floors, their beds and the feeder. They get stuck on the walls.. on their feeder, their beds. There is plenty of space for them, but it is just.. hmpf. It is so much worse with them than with other animals. Probably because of their size, but it impossible to keep them productive, because I have to reset them every 5 minutes.

pliant quarry
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Pathfinding in games in general is one of those things that sounds simple on paper but is extremely difficult to get right, especially in worlds where you can't define preset paths like ours. Mostly because the NPCs don't "know" or "recognize" anything, like you said. It's just code that tries to mimic the movements of living things. So as you introduce things like randomness (which makes the movement feel more convincing), you run into a lot of edge case issues that are extremely difficult to test for or avoid, like when the stars align and random movements just happen to get the NPC stuck inside a prop, or a wall, or whatever.

mortal ridge
slender lantern
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Surprised the dev team didn't just opt for player set pathing to be honest, since the NPCs serve no other active functions than menus

Elder scrolls online did this with their NPCs - the player manually sets the nodes the NPC will travel along to create a path

drifting spoke
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Hello community πŸ™‚

daring stirrup
# pliant quarry Pathfinding in games in general is one of those things that sounds simple on pap...

Hey Toast, while we''re on the subject of NPC/pets movements. I thought about the issue and considering the amount of props creative players will use to add clutter in order to make their bases more "lively", it's going to be very hard to avoid them being stuck in piles of bags or similar constructions.
What about some way to restrict their movement to "safe" zones? This could be achieved by "painting" "no-trespass" lines on the floor using either the summoning staff or a new item, in a similar way we can "paint" vegetation or "decay" on voxels. Those lines would only be visible when the tool is selected and the pathfinding would consider them as solid obstacles and not try to path through. This would allow players to

  • Prevent NPCs/animals from approaching dangerously cluttered areas
  • Stop their pets from leaving their home whithout having to close the door each time
  • Stop wandering NPCs from entering their home
  • Make sure a crafter NPC is always in his home without reducing it's radius to the bare minimum (some NPCs love to move outside their house to hide in some decorative bushes because their (presumably) circular walk radius includes a few voxels outside the building.
  • Depending how the pathfinding works it might even improve performances by reducing the size of the area searched by the algorithm.

Also a workaround to them being stuck all the time might be to teleport them to their assigned bed if they can't reach it in time at night (this would only work for NPCs thought, not animals who don't have an assigned place and can sleep anywhere). At least they wouldn't stay stuck indefinitely.

red yew
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I just have open grass for animals and a "shed". Or just an open barn and always had trouble with that lol

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With fence or walls around it

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They all run for the same wall piece too

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I just cleared 3 Yaks stuck in the same exact spot

scarlet kestrel
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Hi everyone 🀘🏻
Greetings from Paraguay πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ύ

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Let's be friends and play together

Someone wants to play Enshourded later?

static reef
carmine scroll
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and ive never had issues with my yaks. that i can remember.

hollow ether
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Yaks' AI Klustering Syndrome is real.

carmine scroll
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big barn, wide fenced area, food away from the fences. they behave.

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food is also spaced out.

red yew
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I put the food in the middle of the grass

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not sure what can be causing them to b-line for some wall and stick there

hollow ether
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My wife just had to dig a rabbit out of the ground. He's been there for weeks. She finally dug down far enough to get it. Flooded our field having to take walls out of the rice paddy.

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This is a mess. But she fixed it.

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My wife is brilliant. ❀️

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And our dogs always go under a certain set of stairs, plant their noses at the base, and sit there griping about how they can't reach the food that is literally 15 feet behind them in the opening of the stairs

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And no matter where we put the food, they go under there and whine.

misty abyss
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this chat is active this late? damn

carmine scroll
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"late"

misty abyss
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its almost 3am for me

carmine scroll
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i'ts not even 8PM

scarlet kestrel
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who wants to play?

red yew
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little guys always have a habbit of finding any holes lol

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they're like ferrets

violet socketBOT
#

Looking to play with others?

If you're interested in grouping with others for a new play through, or to build, then head over to the LFG forum in the Enshrouded Discord server #1195389948069675009

There is also a dedicated LFG Discord server with roles for multiple regions, both public and private voice channels. Join that server by clicking here

sturdy summit
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Yyyyaaaarrrrr!

neat minnow
quiet marten
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Is there a bug involving the Yellow tall bottle that givews+4 minutes in the shroud? I don't gret a bonus and the gui says 44 minutes remain of in the shroud time...Which doesn't happen.

split schooner
quiet marten
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right on the edge...ok ty

proper oasis
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Hello all

hollow ether
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Hello.

wheat snow
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Ello

daring onyx
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Hoi

languid current
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I came here just to say, I can't wait to get my hands on this game when it launches.

hollow ether
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Get it now! Why wait!

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I sat on my cat.

split schooner
wheat snow
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Hey cats sometimes are unintentionally chair cushions! As you know I have a Russian Blue that sits in my chair quite a bit and I accidentally sit on him every now and then again

hollow ether
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She didn't yowl or anything, so I guess she's okay.

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I have a cushion on my chair. I noticed it was extra squishy and kinda lumpy.

wheat snow
wheat snow
hollow ether
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Thanks.

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I found it when my wife was diagnosed.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Glad you're still here.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Fellow veteran here. Thanks for your time.

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I did one tour and got out.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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I didn't career it.

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Uncle Sam Ain't Released Me Yet.

wheat snow
# hollow ether I didn't career it.

As for myself it a lifer wasn't my intentional join. I enlisted back in the day when the terms of service for longer but they also went through college and gave me speeches of "inspirational reenlistment"...

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Yup.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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I had a feeling you were a jarhead. I don't know why.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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I just had a feeling.

wheat snow
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Was it my bald profile picture of me and my cat?

hollow ether
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That makes you look more like a monk to me.

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A Buddhist and his cat.

wheat snow
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Like a Catholic monk or Japanese monk?

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Japanese, more like.

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I'm mostly Irish and the half I won't talk to.

wheat snow
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So are you currently on any servers in Once Human?

hollow ether
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I have never played that.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Six years clean and sober for me.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Congrats! That's a lot of one days at a time.

wheat snow
hollow ether
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Ouch. I hope I'm not dredging up that kind of stuff on you. πŸ™

wheat snow
hollow ether
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What a day.

hollow ether
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Shroud Depot doesn't have Wayfarer gear. Interesting.

crimson tide
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Hi guys

mossy halo
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hi!

carmine scroll
chrome swift
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Hola

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Busco gente pa jugar Enshrouded

neat minnow
lethal plank
#

is there actually a reliable way to stop server disconnects? neither of us are on wifi, we have stable fiber optic internet, we're both on cable, this desyncing is getting annoying

neat minnow
lethal plank
neat minnow
lethal plank
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idk i want to play not dig around in endless discord channels and troubleshoot more than i play the game

restive dagger
oblique ridge
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<@&1059853133188169910> he spammed this everywhere

noble anchor
oblique ridge
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oh sorry for the ping then!

hybrid oak
worn sorrel
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It's been a hot minute since I last played (Aug 2025). My character is level 33. I'm wondering if I should start fresh given all of the new bits they've added.
Thoughts?

neat minnow
hybrid oak
worn sorrel
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I'll roll a new character and start fresh. I'll probably be re-learning quite a bit anyway so... new adventures! πŸ™‚

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Thanks for your input btw... much appreciated. Now to get my butt slapped around by monsters. lol

silk shard
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i did the same thing, totally recommended
i've just started, played lots of hours and i'm only lvl 13

hollow ether
midnight scaffold
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Has anyone messed with the fishing?

plain cloak
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flameborn! good evening!

hollow ether
midnight scaffold
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Just asking if anyone’s really gotten into the fishing

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I did a bit but I didn’t seem that hashed out and I didn’t know if there was more to it

hollow ether
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My favourite game fishing ever was in New World.

tidal barn
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Hey everyone, new here!

sick dirge
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This new Updraft meter is absolutely stupid. Where do people go to input suggestions for the dev team?

quasi saffron
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F1 ingame,
Feature Upvote (coming soon),
or screaming out loud in here (deercat_derp to no avail)

violet socketBOT
#

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  • It is a site where players can make suggestions for the game and upvote other suggestions for a chance to get them implemented.
  • Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.

Suggestions may be open/closed at any time to review backlogs.

  • Upvote suggestions you like to increase their chances of being implemented.

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Please keep suggestions to one per ticket, we will delete any tickets containing general feedback, multiple suggestions or duplicates (as that defeats the purpose of the site.)

carmine scroll
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i still dont get why they felt the need to nerf updraft even further when so many people already find it a waste of skill points.

sick dirge
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I never found it a waste of skill points. I used it all the time, it literally makes you glide higher. It's stupid now though, it just slows down exploration SO much. Now I have to glide, land, and wait for my meter to fill before I can glide again. We already had stamina to contend with

languid current
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Soonβ„’

carmine scroll
languid current
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I get it. I've suggested the same thing to people for grounded 2.

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Get it while the getting is good.

carmine scroll
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ya

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I wont be playing that one. Me no like giant bugs.

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it's the only reason I pass on the earth defence force games.

languid current
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That's fair. It's not for everyone. There's definitely a certain amount of cartoonish horror that goes with those games. Like I'm not looking forward to whatever giant fish is gonna be in the pond in the next update.

carmine scroll
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and thats why I dont play subnautica!

languid current
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That's exactly why I'm not playing sub2 rn

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I'm the only person in my entire friend group that just isn't interested.

carmine scroll
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i dont need to worry about scary monsters that can come at me from ANY direction.

languid current
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Thats the part I can't get over lmao. Gotta be aware of every direction. Like that flying shark in voidtrain. I threw my controller when it mutated a tongue and snatched me off the train.

carmine scroll
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oof

hybrid oak
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Lmao the what what now

carmine scroll
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reminds me of this one roguelike where you play convicts in space and I finally had a good one i like and a nice run on easy and then I got ate by a space whale i didnt notice on the map and went NOPE and havent played since.

languid current
# hybrid oak Lmao the what what now

Alright so in voidtrain there's this flying shark thing that will eat things and mutate as you travel along the tracks. One of them is a tongue and it will pull you off the train and attempt to maul you.

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I quit because of it.

hybrid oak
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Amazing

languid current
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Thalassophobia go brrrr

carmine scroll
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i kiiind of developed that from farcry 4 oddly.

hybrid oak
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Yeah my old tribemate in Ark has that phobia and wouldn't do ocean stuff without me going with her and us turning off the water fog

carmine scroll
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thankfully enshrouded's water is crystal clear

hybrid oak
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Enshrouded's water is really pretty

languid current
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I've seen. And yeah that's a godsend for me.

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Water mechanics actually seem pretty neat

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Can't wait to flood a whole area on accident

hybrid oak
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I'm slowly making my way through the summits before the new biome. I imagine I'll add some water features to my base building when I get there

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I still haven't done anything with it

carmine scroll
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ive done some minimal stuff.

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im kind of just waiting for 1.0 / creative mode to do any truly cool stuff but I also tend to just draw blanks when it comes to crafting cool bases.

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mine are usually just very utilitarian

hybrid oak
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That's okay

languid current
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Felt. Most of my bases are prison boxes. But they will be functional.

hybrid oak
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Mine's pretty utilitarian right now too, but I've been having fun doing the little decorative quests and putting stuff around the base

carmine scroll
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its why in some of my runs I just find prebuilt locations

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bounty barn rocks.

hybrid oak
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Oh where's that one?

carmine scroll
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in the highlands

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it's very good.

hybrid oak
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Gotcha

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I'm in highlands too but in a different spot

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I have Crowley out in a ratty tent that was here when I took over, he doesn't seem to mind

faint saddle
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I found an unmarked ruin by following the road north of Fenrig's farm

carmine scroll
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i prefer unmarked locations

faint saddle
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it's an abandoned village with no name

carmine scroll
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there's a new location I like south of my usual main base location in springlands.

faint saddle
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decent size, cool underground area, and near a Sanctum

hybrid oak
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You gonna build there?

faint saddle
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At some point yes. I put an alter there to keep the rats out.

hybrid oak
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Awesome

faint saddle
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one of these days I'll even look into taking screen shots to post

hybrid oak
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You should! I love looking at everyone's pictures

languid current
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Same, some of the best inspiration I've got for base building has come from seeing other people's building techs.

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Lol my nitro is useless here

carmine scroll
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it is?

hybrid oak
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No outside emojis toast_weary

carmine scroll
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wait, since when?

languid current
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Or images for that matter.

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Probably someone was very naughty with the emojis.

carmine scroll
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maybe in other channels?

hybrid oak
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You can post pictures in some other channels

carmine scroll
hybrid oak
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Most discords I've been in that are for commercial things either don't allow outside stuff or they allow people who boost the server to use stuff like that, which makes sense to me

languid current
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I've seen other discs attach image and emoji perms to an exp level so you have to chat for a certain amount of time before you can use them.

carmine scroll
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i dont recall that being a limit even before I became a helper, but ive been a helper longer than ive had nitro.
maybe you can post stuff in other channels.

languid current
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But yeah other channels have image perms

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Boost just gave me a yellow name lmao

carmine scroll
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boooost

hybrid oak
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What a pretty color

languid current
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I love gooooooooooooold

carmine scroll
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i dont know what to do with my boosts, but nitro was gifted to me by someone im no longer friends with? people are weird, ayway I cant live without special emojis so i guess im dropping 30 bucks next year on this, so no boosts.

languid current
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I can't live without them either tbh lol.

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But usually I'll just boost whatever servers I plan on sticking around for a while.

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If they've got over 14 or whatever it won't matter how many they have anyway.

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They really chopped the level 3 requirement in half wow.

hybrid oak
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They added the little server tags and stuff yeah

carmine scroll
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yes, own it

languid current
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Also, gotta say, it is refreshing to be welcomed to a new server with such good conversation. I think I'm gonna enjoy my time here.

hybrid oak
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Yeah I really like the community here

carmine scroll
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on most days, Yes.

faint saddle
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I tend to be in and out due to odd work hours, but yes. Good people here

languid current
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It's a nice change of pace from the other place I've been hanging out.

hybrid oak
carmine scroll
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it IS better than a lot of other official places

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the moderators and devs have done a great job managing this place.

faint saddle
carmine scroll
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ope! mod! hide! I wasnt saying nice things!

faint saddle
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I know nothing......nothing

noble anchor
languid current
faint saddle