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Added a picture from a workday morning in off topic, we got that snow during the night and I still had to go to work that day 😅
I wished for a bigger snowblower
Once in my lifetime i want to experience that much snow!
admittedly a bobcat would be a much more fun and versatile purchase. just a bit more expensive
Go on a snow vacation! We have dogsleigh rides and rental snowmobiles 😁
My inner kid is nagging me to get a skidsteer!
Let's form a support group... Grown people with too few toys!
hahaha
good morning
blorg
mornin Chief
how's things
Any news on the update
no news, which in itself is kind of like news
Working hard
The question is...what is the question?
things is good. and ontop.of that its friday..so double yay :3
Oh no. Its the friday before I need to work again. 
well at least its the friday before and not already sunday..worth something isnt it?
now u got him into a reeeaal dilemma...
sad cuz slav... ehrm work again. but happy cuz coin :3
So what’s the fov, bloom and brightness on with the. Thrills of Twilight trailer
can you be more specific?
you're asking for the fov, bloom and brightness settings for the entire trailer?
Yes basically
@rain laurel if you've got some time to answer this gentleman's question
Isn’t that your username
Same username as yours but. I think the bloom is 100%
coolusernamebro and phaze are not the same
knew it.CuB was all of em all along! one man army job! xD
Nvm
Might need to refresh your app, they're definitely not the same
I did I see the difference
Discord likes to mess up weekly
Fair enough
and Voice Of Enshrouded (before he gets all angy again :3)
thank god I thought I'd been huffing paint in my sleep again
who says you didnt?
You just keep random paint around?
you never know when you might need it
(as it happens, there's a paint sample roller stick behind the sink, in the kichen. I'm not sure how it ended up there but I know it's there)
I mean, we have some... But we painted when we bought the house
we were told to remind you its your paint huffing corner, you keep forgetting /j
oh thank you
The strange things you find in some places
Our dog managed to find a tennis ball we didn't get him, in the house. We fully cleaned our house before moving in o.O
I mean there's always a tennis ball to be found if you have a dog
He was so upset that we threw it out. Some tennis balls are toxic to dogs, so we only let him have ones we know are pet safe.
oh I didn't know??
Yeah, some use materials or paint colors that can make them sick
poor babies
Yep, no random balls for the puppies
I don't even know where he got it from, I never bought my dog one. 
i really feel like going skydiving next saturday, but is it worth 500$ usd?
you couldnt pay me 500 to do it. or 1000.
Welp. I think I fried another network card. I have really bad luck with those
Not even a lightning storm.
am not getting paid, i am paying to jump
This sucks. I wanted to finish my haunted hayride in Planet Coaster 2. 🙁
how do you even fry "another" network card
500?!
yeah, its tandem, since there is no way they let untrained people jump out of a plane
500 aint even THAT much
and? im payin 220 quid for a 4000 m tandem.jump o.O
Yes. I know.
that was my point.
they have a monopoly on it here, there is like 1 place where they do it
still though... thats one hefty price hot dang. but i guess at the end of the day up to you what its wort to you.
im payin 1.5 k for training plus equipment + 7 (solo)jumps + more.
and it includes them filming it, idk if that is worth more, but yeah
what country lets you tandem jump for 220 quid? uk since quid?
have done indoor when i was like 12, got slammed into the tube walls
not bungee tho
first big jump
Nevermind, somehow one of the cats unplugged me from the hub.
I am not sure HOW
would advice you to try the high bungee jump first. see if its realy something for you. for way less
its only 153m and for some reason extremely hard to find, like i cant even find 1 place that lets you do it at this time of the year
and jumping from 4000m is way more fun
also since i get the video, it is a really cool thing to have on my social media, first thing ill ever post
morning chat ^^ 👋
Mornin
mornin
Mornin
Add the cost of a new set of underwear and pants too 😁. Have fun!!
wont need any, done WAY worse
Good!! Adrenaline junky like me and my one son 🤗
yup
Hello, fellow Flameborn
hello there
I have done things that at 70 I now think .....what is wrong with me..... fortunately no serious injuries but awesome memories ❤️
Hi there
Another glorious morning, flameborn
and awsome stories to tell
The only "wrong thing" would be why didnt i do this way earlyer? :3
Yep ...only bad memory was crawling down a tunnel in a cave and got stuck....that sucked big time 😂
Top o the day flamey folk 
couldnt agree more with you
Hey everyone
Felt hard. So jet lagged.
Mhm
Hi friend missss youuu
Miss you toooo. We need to plan soon to play together !
Yessssss
Please!
For sure when the update comes. It would be so fun
Yacht party in the new lake
water when it is ready that';s when
incase you forgot there is an entire desert
ik it was ironic
but just incase
I'm just poking some fun
Being a regular rabble rouser
When the sand storms are added… you mean? Lol
Quicksand would be neat. Can't imagine the coding complexity of it
Oooh, sand-related spells tho...
Well… it may be along the lines of the tar pits and water
Oh true. It's kinda halfway there.
they can in theory add that during the water update, i believe they said that there will be more intricate weather and maybe more diverse
Maybe I shouldn't joke about sand update then hahaha
Sandstorms would be very neat. Truly the kindlewastes need a little more depth and love. I think it’ll get what it needs. Sandstorms, heatwaves, oasis’s… all the goods
Mirages!
There is already the tar that acts like quicksand in Enshrouded so... the code is there
Definitely would be neat if that lies in their scope one day.
there already is a mirage function, i can always see myself getting a legendary weapon before i open the chest and find a common or rare 😭
That’s a good one lol
I am actually more excited for when Keen takes another crack at the itemization and combat in the future. I've no idea if it'll be anything substantial but I'm interested regardless
-sees gold chest
-opens it to find rare or commen weapon
and 4 water
I don't wanna discuss how much grinding I did for the lvl 25 gold armor sets a year back.
id love to see some changes to the inventory management
dropping stuff in bulk is tedious
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What we've gotten thus far from launch have been excellent changes. So I'm sure we'll see further tweaking.
maybe some inventory rules? like a skill or something that allows you to auto delete rubble...
I imagine you had dark circles under your eyes and your hair disheveled lol
That's just every morning
a simple thing actually add from inventory to existing stacks and not drop all
or dedicated storage for that manner, could kill 2 birds with one stone if you put a sign on and choose the item
yeah its really good so far
That sort of ease of management is on the roadmap I believe. Or rather, they're aware people want it.
Especially chest renaming.
We'll see what happens post-Water
yes lets goo
I've got my hands in a few different games right now so I'm probably one of the more patient of the bunch in here.
dont need renamed chests. aslong as we.get the promissed signs im good
yo cross, btw does it get cold up there, before/while freefalling
Are they waiting until the 31st to release the content??????
hell jeah it does 😅
The juice drama just won't die
yes. and then they will push it back to the 48th
October II
Nah Oct 42nd or 49th
Sounds accurate
FThey like Tuesdafys
It will be those two dates. Not a range.
fI can'tf type I need to fo to bed
well i would expect a delay if i was you. not even joking
Hahahaha
plausible
most likely and honestly also kinda hope for that
better delay than hot mess
Any of the autumn updates for my games this year I'm chalking up to hopefully by the winter holiday.
i would rather them polish it more than pumpin half baked pc bricking software out
Of 2027
Hey, 2027 is a great year for when they launch the game finally on Dec 30th. Gotta let em cook.
Really? No birds and squirrels bringing you your robe and slippers? You yawning and stretching your arms out angelically and smiling, remarking out loud how lovely the morning sun is ? 🤣
Honestly, Keen can take all the time they want.
I mean, I am a Disney princess
they sure can and should. still got some grounded 2 and other games to look at in the meantime lol
I am somewhat of a morning person but anyone that's this chipper honestly scares me a little hahah
imagine the shorts guy picking up this and dropping teaser with that launch date every day just fw us
well... gues now its my turn to ask you what ur takin and where to get that stuff 😋
Shows a picture of a valley filled with wells
Look guys, we added water.
i could not be mad
I am not a morning or day person in general. You see me outside during the day and in the sun… that’s not me. lol that’s someone impersonating me
🐗
You’d love my imagination, I feel. That thing is a drug in of itself
wish the sun was out more here, its just coulds for the most part
that would be one hell of a troll and i would be so here for it
I figured you were a "I'm awake when I'm awake" kind of person.
Since I see you in here at the oddest hours hahaha
no night shaming the vampy girls
Yes. Very very true lol
Oh never. I know better.
Especially when I'll be up till 1am talking in here some days.
I am a functioning adult I swear
Once we hear the birds chirp and see the light.. that’s means it’s time to close the blackout curtains and go to sleep lol
That makes 1 of us
yeah I should go to bed
he forgot to add barely
Yes
I’m definitely thinking the same. Lol
I'm on my second mug of earl grey so I'm too awake now
Until my 9am meeting. And my 10am. And then my 11am.
what do you work as? HR? how many meetings do you have, i could never
Engineer
That's all I really wanna share. Plus I believe we have rules about oversharing personal info and I'd rather not breach anything in this lovely discord.
I dox myself regularly
it just happens because I don't care
Let me tell you about how I used my government name in FFXIV.
same
like oh no! you people know I live on the outskirts of Nashville. What are you going to do? Come punch my skeletons?
Lovely area though
i dont mind telling people where i work or what, because i have some benefits, and some authority to deal with any threats i get online
I have always hated it here
and I am not going into why I came back because it's a whole thing
but I very much want to leave and go North
Come to Michigan
I am thinking more New England
Also very lovely
more conducive to the 365 Halloween aspirations
Sept 15th-Dec 25th is the Halloween season for my family
Basically, whenever The Nightmare before Christmas is relevant
Inside the house is Halloween all year
I put outside up Labor Day to Thanksgiving usually
sometimes my parets would get some suprise halloween decorations applied in their bathroom while they were asleep, pretty much any day of the year, by me
i need to be more financially responsible...
and relax more during weekends
my schedule is:
this week (mma competition)
next week (bday/skydivng)
week 3 (SAR)
next 4 (SAR pt2)
week 5 (dove hunting camp)
week 6 (intro to helicopter flight/being a heli pilot with mostly sight seeing)
week 7 (beer and whiskey brewing)
week 8 (propeller plane flight)
week 9 (climbing)
etc/unplanned
i really be doing anything but speaking with women
update when? ôo me and my group are restless
when it comes
we've tried to tell us that... dosnt work
too bad, we can't rush it along... so it will come when it comes
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thats just the way it is
Hello all! How can I show off my base for the YT channel?
#self-promo if you wanna post the video
#screenshots-and-art or #1200109637815517184 for screenshots ig
Ello, I just caught hemotoxin for the first time. I got the quest for antidote to craft at alchemist but it’s not showing?? Plz help
Says I need spider glands and moths which I have but only the regular antidote is available to craft
look into ur personal crafting menu. not in the alchemists
(after u talked to the alchy)
Hehehe yea I just realised 🥲
i think game on steam need a new achievment:
- Went to end of the world, to a hell where ancient corrupted dragon have it's nest for a basic cooking pot: Hell Kitchen pot
Mornin folks!
I'm at the part right now was hard to do alone so I made a new world waiting for water lol
So I built my base at the first plateau you come to after waking up from death. On the map it's like 1" away. I've never moved or built another. Apart from the annoyance of getting new supplies to upgrade and rebuilding, is there a reason to support two bases? Does it do anything for you??
Ja, probably women are more dangerous than any of that.....and some more expensive 😁.
Well on one hand, it's the middle of the month
october isnt over yet.
On the other hand, it'll get here when it gets here.
One thing is for certain, it'll release in october..
But not sure if this year.
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Maybe
Or October II
Update when?!!
Update then!!?
No more water now. We're getting the lava update instead.
I sure hope not
What you dont want a lava river?
Relive Morrowind inside of Enshrouded
Get called an Outlander!
Ride around on a giant bug!
Maybe later. I love the game its beautiful but to me the only thing missing is water. I can't wait to have a beautiful lake to look at when i walk outside the base. it'll be heaven 
gonna be awesomeeee🥹
We also need an overhaul in the loot system. There's no much point in solving puzzles, kill lots of enemies, trolls, dragons to get a lvl 15 blue equipment.
i hope we can ADD fish to our self-made ponds.. Also.. Koi ponds?
They've already said you can catch fish and add them to the water in your base. What fish they are? No idea.
omg yasssss
would be breathtaking
im not to picky tho
on type
It's going to be those fish with the human teeth.
Im completely clueless aside from trailer. Trying to go as blind as possible to the update
oooo how can u do it lol
We're all blind, aside from the trailer right now 😄
Day 45: Cade is once again in my pond and thinks he's a koi.
He will sleep with the fishies. I will put his bed IN the lake
Be sure to place a roof as well
on my last playthrough I put him under the stairs like harry potter
Cade confirmed wizard
so each time you run down the stairs you jumped on the steps to make all the dust fall???
Can we push the NPCs in the water?
"EGH, SAWDUST!"
😂
not me accidentally taking a personal day off work bc my friend and i both thought we saw an announcement that the update would release today
big oops
i think they're called sheep head, for some reason
Well at least now you can enjoy other games for your entire day off
I stubbed my toe and fell into the shroud and got shroud lung. It would really help my recovery if I could have some UPDATE ANNOUNCEMENT today. Would really improve my chances.
Get ready for October II instead.
how about.........No.
Offers sand update instead
So if the level cap is expected to rise from 35 to 45... I wonder if 1.0's max will be 50.
i'd bet 5 bucks on it.
Arc raiders free stress test beta live today for anyone interested!!!
From the same devs as the finals, one of the better shooters in the last few years
That seems like a good safe number to me.
hi
Especially when the goal is spring next year for launch. But that's assuming Keen doesn't push back a bit to make sure the game is polished for 1.0.
hello
So water we all up to today?
not making awful puns.
I swear its just reflex at this point.....
I mean, did no one hear about that bakery that burnt down
now that guy's whole business is toast
Now those are some top level dad jokes right there
no but i heard about the cheese factory in France that exploded.
De brie was everywhere.
did you hear about the guy who lost his whole left side?
lol
he's all-right now.
I didn't have time to read that article because i was reading a book about anti-gravity. It was impossible to put down.
hi, any news about the game not running well por people with HDD ?
The only news is "they're trying"
alright, thank you
I mean i can offer some advice
2.5" SSDs are very cheap and I recommend buying one.
If you're able, the M.2 drives are better but need motherboard support and a cooling solution (most mobos with slots for them come with thermal pads)
well the issue is someone then needs to do the rest of the job
I can buy it, I can't do the rest of the work required
and the primary source of this sort of work just got acquired by another company and doesnt offer this anymore -.-
That's wildly ambiguous. Are you located in the US or EU, or other?
Because if you're US based I can link you to several fantastic sources for helping you understand how to do it yourself.
Its a big ol' "it depends" for whether your computer will support such an upgrade, but many can.
Laptops generally are a "Proceed with caution" type situation and every laptop is different.
I've helped friends with no computer skills learn how to install an SSD. YouTube truly is marvelous.
Same resource I will be using and abusing when i buy a house to get away with not overpaying for home repairs.
Yeah if the installation process is your only concern, thankfully harddrives are one of the easiest pc parts to install
I guess ram is the only thing that's easier
if a piece of toast can do it, you can too! ™
yeah, I heard that a couple dozen times
I'll stick to black holes with two event horizons and database architecture
and leave this particular job to someone else
and if that someone else can do for me the 7 years overdue PC cleaning? perfect for me
For those who haven't check in a while and didn't realize it was back up: The Shroud Depot is back!
All the guides on YouTube: "Don't be gentle when installing it."
It's really hard to break an SSD lol
I mean, if you wanna pay someone to do it, its absolutely your right to do so. Your money after all. But what we would love to see is for you to keep more of that money in your pocket.
That's it.
Points to plank over the current empty pool
Walk it. We couldn't fill the pool with water yet.
And there's a lot of ways to ensure you can! But... obviously... if you're too intimidated or worried about breaking something, you'd be better off letting a professional do so, it'd be a better use of both time and money at that point.
swan dives and gliders to the bottom
Foiled once again by gliders
Didnt have that issue when my kids toured my base.....They didnt have gliders yet and right down the pitfall they went......
Been saying this since launch there gets to a point not even that far into the game where fighting is pointless cause the loot sucks
Same with puzzles
Seems to be unhappy day today for some reason
To be fair, it's on our radar that the looting system leaves a lot to be desired, and it's something the team really wants to improve (including a few changes in the next update)
Spoilers!!! You heard it here first folks!
Yayyy super excited
I mean Kontreck also talked about it
And for the possibility of greatswords 😼
Shhhhhhhh i'm trying to make the people happy!
Suwwy 
Possibility? 2 handed swords are confirmed in the next update.
I doubt we'll get much more definition besides that ^^
I feel sorry for Keen having to deal with such different playstyles
those of us bopping around with hours of content cause it's a building game
others saying the game ia dead and done cause he did everything lol
It's a blessing and a curse because that also gives us a much wider audience of people who will buy the game lol
It's swings and roundabouts, fortunately for them, there is hours upon hours of content, even without the building side of it.
in fairness, its nice to see that you're... keen to listen to different types of players 🥁
(not sorry)
Yayyyyy I saw a TikTok that it was a possibility. I didn’t know it was confirmed
gestures to the plank Walk it.
details, details
Yeah definitely, I've been in lots of meetings about combat and loot design and stuff, but I also just had a meeting this morning where we discussed ways to add more cozy things to the game for building players, cause there's definitely some places where we're lacking in that kinda stuff. It's not easy to keep the wide array of playstyles happy lol
Yes more cozy props please😇
Toast hoards all the butter didnt you know?
I see people complain about the combat of the game but idk how? It has amazing action combat that’s better than any survival crafter I’ve ever played
butter with water physics applied
There's a butter churner too
When people think 'combat' in this sense, they're more meaning more towards souls like combat, so varied weapon attacks, heavy/range attacks, combos etc etc etc.
Where's my churning animation?
but without some butter I'm not sure anyone will have any idea lol
and PIZZA I need pizza
that's cozy!
It feels a little soulslike to me already, we have a parry system, dodging, and multiple different weapons to choose from, every other survival crafter I’ve played has stale combat with no action
Which is hard, because while we definitely want to improve combat, there is also the simple fact that we're not dark souls, and not really trying to be dark souls either. Enshrouded is definitely designed with a more casual audience in mind, and we're probably never going to have a point where you need to memorize enemy movesets and become a master of dodging so that you can 1v1 them all lol
I want to make Pizza and Door Dash it to other servers...when? 😛
lol
Exactly. Personally i find the combat system plenty enjoyable for what i like, one reason i enjoy the game is because i don't have to think much with the combat 😄
Yeah we've definitely taken a lot of inspiration from souls games, cause I mean, it's a fantastic combat system. But we're not trying to be ultra hardcore like a lot of those games are either.
you used to be able to order a pizza from dominos with the /pizza command in eq2sadly it didn't work by the time i played so sad
The only thing I really want in combat is the targeting to be fixed
I love the combat so much the only thing it was missing was greatswords
I'llsettle for fixing target when not in combat lol
And now we can have them soon
lost a chicken yesterday for it
Yeah the great swords are quite fun, I've been using them a lot because I've been helping Phaze shoot footage for the trailer
Yeah I was never that guy playing EQ lol
The only thing i hope for going forwards, combat wise is 'harder' boss fights, like the dragon as that's the only really interesting one. The fell youngling was nice, but relatively simple in itself.
for many years I was way into eq2. It's still top 10 fondest memories
That was LOTRO for me.
I think... more complex fights rather than harder would be a better way to describe my desire ^^
For me it was the old mmo "Tibia" lol, I'm glad that game doesn't have an hour counter because I probably sank so much of my life into that ugly ass game
never heard of that one
It was one of the earliest MMOs, initially made in 1997
My heavy hitter was WoW 😭
My formative "MMO" was Dragonrealms. MUDs were crazy back in the day.
I'm drawing a blank on the first mmoish game we played
likelate 80's early 90's
kinda like an online sim game of sorts
I remember neighboorhoods and stuff
I still play it. I'm one of the main scripters for the Genie front end.
The first MMO-ish game i played was Guildwars, the original.
Landmark 😭
i am but one opinion in a sea of many but... i'd just like to say that this game has been so much fun, ive been so bored with games lately.. my husband and i are retro - modern video game collectors and this game has given me life lol we've been hooked.
My cousin still plays it occasionally, I just can't get back into it though.
Someone had to
I was gonna say MUDs were before my time but then I realized that it's only a couple of years older than tibia, so I guess I just never stumbled into one of them as a kid lol
Amazing game. Been playing the sequel since beta.
Yea i played a decent amount of GW2 but nothing in recent years.
I fell in GW2 one and peeked at GW. I regretted not being arund at the start of it
They've done a lot to make it as tedious to play as possible. There's nothing to do aside from hunting and all everyone does these days is AFK script train so the community isn't there anymore either.
it had some fun stuff
ArenaNet made a wonderful world to explore
Good lore too.
That they did.
I may or may not have worked on GW2 when it launched 👍
it was too late by the time I saw it. I wasn't ready for hte aloneness
i had my presearing lvl 18 😛
ooh, LOTRO mentioned
Honestly deleted everyone’s enshrouded world, make 1 huge server for everyone and make the game an MMO 😂😂😂 I wanna see thousands of ppl running around in the same world
... Why would you waste your time scripting in a MUD?
Arena Net has the best version of a 'living' world that an MMO has ever done so far
I mean people do it in Tibia but that's cause you can resell your accounts, can you do that in MUDs?
My cousin does it specifically because he likes ot make scripts 🤷♀️
I like coding and scripting for it keeps me sharp.
I wish someone had done some scripting on the stock game I played in the 80s
made a great penny stock sale and it rolled over to the negatives
New world a goated mmo
SO SAD
Oh they just do it for fun, alright I thought they were trying to gain something by cheating lol
Oh man, don't get me on my "living world" soapbox for MMOs. I'll make you listen to a 6-hour dissertation 😝
imagine the lag
I"m not against a tirade lol
but I'll need to get up and stretch a bit first
TOAST
I told you
no cupcakes for the class
BAD GIF
😉
I'm making brownies today...
sneaks a cupcake away
Just do what monster hunter and boardlands 4 did, let it be super laggy and blame the players for having bad PCs 😂😂
It's not really a tirade, more of a VERY detailed and researched understanding of why modern MMO projects aren't making waves and what they need to do to embrace the living world concept with modern technology...
Oh man I miss launch. Those were fun weeks.
Add turtle we can kill to make turtle soup and turtle shields 🏎️
The dog one is my favorite
Dragonrealms is a different kind of MUD. You don't get more powerful by killing things and just gaining EXP. You have a variety of Skills that are trained by doing specific things, kind of like the text version of RuneScape. Because of that, training requires doing the same thing over and over and over... So scripting makes it easier.
Bl4 caused my graphics card to overheat and melt my power supply cable to the connector.... I was not happy
Damn zerax you're old, I didn't know you'd been in the industry for that long lol
I'm so sorry
no. add boar juice.
barf
Bl4 wouldn’t run on my 4090 instant refund lol
also need ice cream cones yes yes
What even is that 😭
It was my first industry job 😝
That's a crazy first job to have on your resume
I found gf ice cream cones the other day. I was so happy
find boar. squeeze boar. create boar juice.
Agreed.
I’ve heard of this on the deep web I think they call it munting 💀
I have some ideas for how to make icecream
Lol yeah, they screwed the pooch on the release of bl4 and what it did
I'd upload a handy image. . .if I could in this channel
but haven't yet looked to see if anything can be the cone
Ayo, where's that Commando class that was teased? April Fools joke or not, I crave that army man profession.
This is a 13 year old joke
And blamed the players lol the ceo of that company is wild
Lol you know I'd share if you were near. Do you have whole foods near you? You can find it there
I felt so bad for the CMs of that game when the CEO did that lol
I do. I'll swing by on Sunday when I pass it on my way home from my mother's.
What a PR nightmare of a statement
I'd think they'd be used to it by now. Every time he opens his mouth they have a fire to put out
Oh Borderlands 4. I had the wrong game in my head when I read BL4
Yeah true, I guess maybe they just look like this guy by now
"Oh the CEO said something again..."
Since Amazon and whole foods are teamed up now, you can check their grocery service and just see if they have it in. Then you don't have to waste time if they don't have it
I will wait until BL4 is free on PS+ to play it... Because I've day it WILL be free on PS+.
They'd be better served investing in a Randy Pitchford AI response bot that auto-responds to criticism with a pleasant and pro-player spin on whatever was said. 🤣
Isn’t New World free on ps+?
Nah, the AI would learn from what was previously replied and start saying worse things than the human
It is, and it's still not worth it.
Hey I have 11k hours in that game
My condolences.
I like it... I've played over 1k hours in it too. I just play it for the run of the story and then move to another game
Also, I already had the game before it went on PS+.
it’s worth it I love paying 20$ to change my characters hairstyle
The true pay to win.
MMO monetization is something else lol
hello
I’d how I got so sucked into it lmao but yeah 11k hours later and 4k usd spent I still have not learned
MMOs are so addictive tho
Yeah, WoW has a bit of it but none of it affects gameplay, just cosmetics
"a bit of it", didn't they just sell a mount skin for like 100 bucks
Worth it, it’s a pretty mount
Lmao
We Gotta convince ourselves it was worth it
gotta flex on your guildmates somehow
WoW doesn't need any more monetization than it's ever-flowing moneypot of people who've played since 2004 and are still paying monthly 😜
I have no idea, I have only ever bought moubt/pets when they're on sale for super cheap. I don't mind. I've played for 20 years, I will use my mounts and pets
Flex with your skills not your wallet!
Lol, I was a low level QA person. I mostly tested the dungeons and story and crafting and stuff. I DID do some dev work, but it was pretty minor.
the way you used to flex in MMOs was just grinding way harder than anyone else, now you grind a 9-5 so you can buy the shiniest skin
Horse armor.... I used to collect the different horses in LotRO... Until I left the game when they gutted my class with skill trees and specializations.
Yessirrr flexing is the point of MMOs I guess it’s kinda fire
Yall should have a microtransaction shop on enshrouded
the great swords will actually be randomized skins like csgo knives
Hey, don't you say bad things about us.... If you find a game you like playing and they are running the servers, it's not a bad deal. A server I am running for Enshrouded is $8 a month and let's 4 people play. They run a server for 1000s and ask for $15
Yesssss
Lmao
I wish I was born early enough to be one of the first ppl to play WoW😣
I remember being in the fortnite alpha when it was still a survival game lol
weird to see it being... what it is now
All I'm saying is that WoW is literally one of the last MMOs that can survive and continue to operate without anything more than a sub and their playerbase. Everyone else has changed their models because purchasing habits have changed.
I was in that too.
I started at the end of Vanilla and start of BC. I much prefer my experience with BC than Vanilla.
I got a beta key back when they were being sold. That beta was wild.
It has changed so very much
It wasn't a big deal really... I was an alpha and beta tester for Warcraft Online while working at Midway Games in Carlsbad, CA in 2002. That became WoW eventually.
Ffxiv is still doing well on just subs too
Lmao I was 7 when that came out but I do remember Fortnite season 1
Lucky
The beta for FFXIV 1.0 was something else...
Sure is. And for about a month or two it beat out WoW in concurrent players last year (or was that this year?).
I got to play the beta for New World before it came out so I guess I got that
While working for Sony in 2003, I downed all of EverQuest servers with a bad patch lol
No idea. The years are bleeding together for me -_-;;
Hello 🙂
That was you????. I liked everquest it was fun
I haven’t played ever quest cause the graphics are bad rn ngl
And the combat isn’t action combat yk
yes, and I was the one who made the dragon Kerafyrm unkillable
back in the day everyone was so hyped for everquest because the graphics were borderline revolutionary for such a massive open world game lol
I don't actually think this is true, I really feel like people would be willing to pay for a subscription if there's a clear value proposition of what they get and the content that the devs are creating.
Action combat wasn't feasible for MMOs early on. Not enough bandwidth, not enough processing power. You had people joining with 56K modems for crying out loud 🤣
they worked us like bees though. Was really really tough working there 60-80 weeks
I think MMOs would do fine if they just stopped trying to clone WoW lol
Oh no
LOL I believe it but can’t they just use unreal engine now?
Soapbox looking mighty tempting right now 😝
Oh yeah, the games industry is still a nightmare, but the early days of the games industry was actual hell
FFXI and FFXIV are still both sub games, and they're doing great still.
Isn't ESO also a sub game still too? (with MTX as well)
Quite a few upcoming MMOs are using Unreal 5e now.
You don’t need to pay the sub to play
And you can just buy all that content instead of paying the sub
It’s basically a payment plan for dlc
I haven't played it in ages but isn't EVE a sub game as well?
Yeah they are. That's why I said 'one of'. There are a few of them out there, but amongst the vast majority of the MMO genre, the sub model can't pay for itself.
Yeah EVE is sub only, but you can earn subs with in-game currency
But yeah, I think a subscription totally works if the game is worth having a subscription for. I think if a game is only subscription with zero MTX and zero other purchases, it might actually be more enticing to players because they know everyone's on the same playing field.
or did they change that at some point?
I literally left the industry thanks to EverQuest... I was previously a MidWay Games employee who worked on Crazy Taxi, Hydrothunder and others. SOE was and still is a crappy employer.
Technically you don't need to pay for a sub on wow anymore. If you're good at earning in game gold, you can buy game time tokens with it
I played some ESO it was super easy got boring because pretty much every enemy is super easy to kill and does no damage to you
EVE does have a free to play section these days but it's very limited.
Wasn't crazy taxi also a nightmare project or am I thinking of something else
EVE is and isn't a sub base.... It depends. There is a fee to play it, but depending on how good you are you can earn your playtime by playing the game and selling stuff to other people.
Doesn't someone have to purchase that token first though?
Yes it was, but only for the Dreamcast team
Yo how many devs we got in the chat today
Am I the only sap who works in a different industry?
Not you though. You can totally earn the gold to pay for your time.
and fun fact: Hydrothunder is almost a copy of crazy taxi's engine, assets and models
The only lucky bastard who works for a different industry*
Well, to be fair, a big chunk of my career was outside of games. The reason I'm back in games is because I realized I'd never be happy working on financial systems and crap like that.
I work night shift retail. . .
I wouldnt think those of had played would need to be told you played eso considering the name 😉
though I don't know if he was in any other games
You all have jobs, as part of layoffs this year, I'd say you're all lucky
I worked as a costco stocker overnight, I feel your pain.
I'm in automotive. I think it's just as bad.
Right but either way, they got their money for the time. It's like earning someone else's sub by playing the game 😁
It's a rollercoaster regardless
Yeah I'm lucky for finding something else, though I was part of the first wave of layoffs a couple years ago lol
So not that lucky
Haha true no one ever gets the reference for real, he’s also in daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and Skyrim lol
I'm happy to have had the same job for 15 years that I still enjoy getting up to go to work for each day...
Way too many layoffs happening right now. Especially since the companies doing it are still earning millions, they're just doing it to pad their shareholders' pockets -_-
Yeah I was a retail merchandiser for a few years and I think that job was like a sort of black hole on my entire life. It's like those years never happened and they probably shortened my lifespan lol
Look at this human, enjoying their livelihood. 
How dare you
I take nothing for granted now. I was at my job for 14 years when they sold the company and 2/3s got laid off
the work's decent enough, hardest part is the hours, its rare that I feel fully rested and non-tired
I just got my first job took so long cause most places here only hire 16+
before my vision tanked to heck, I was an RN. best job ever
I also worked 15 years prior to this one at an assortment of crap jobs where I can in fact not take it for granted
miss it every day
Yeah, I feel that. I almost got fired because I kept falling asleep on my "lunch" breaks.
The unfortunate truth of it is that they make terrible decisions that lead to terrible games and an over-hiring of people on a bloated budget, then put out said game, blame the players for why it isn't successful, fire the staff, close the studio, and move on to the next company to ruin.
I did that for a while. Black hole definitely works as a description
If u get tired at work just take one of those gas station 5 hour shots of energy
I went from Tech Support to Game Tester to Physics Engine Developer to Game Design to Systems Administration in my career lol
heh my lunch breaks aren't long enough to be falling asleep on, I get half an hour for lunch
Ah yes, the bottles of heart attack lottery
I've been drinking caffeine daily for over 20 years, I'm trying to taper off it. cut out energy drinks, switched to caffeine pills.
Mine weren't long enough to fall asleep on either, and yet... 😝
I been drinking 2 a day no heart attack yet lol I think that it’s just a myth that energy drinks and stuff are bad for u tbh
Only if you forget that you're supposed to sleep 🤣
Your body will hate you for a little
Sleep is for the weak
But its way better not relying on any substance again
I drink a lot of caffeine too, but it's worth pointing out that it is literally a neurotoxin that evolved in plants to kill bugs by making their little bug hearts explode lol
I've drank 3 cups of coffee in my entire life. Tea snob forever. ☕
I mean coffee tastes gross, so 🤷♀️
Those Brits and their teas lol
But I know that's a minority opinion
Coffee is a legal drug thats what it is
caffeine doesn't even energize me anymore, I was just drinking it in to avoid withdrawals, which is why I switched to pills that I can taper off of
Not a myth and too much of anything can cause health issues. One person being lucky doesn't mean the rest of the people will be
I miss caffeine but I know it's for the best
Coffee doesnt energize to begin with it merely delays fatigue
Damn I didn’t know that actually
I'm 37 and I started drinking energy drinks pretty much daily since around 13-14
getting too old for that stuff
I'm just a Michigander who enjoys earl grey
I absolutely hate the smell and taste of coffee. You aren't alone
Water CAN kill you...and no, not by drowning 😛
Interestingly I LOVE the smell of coffee. But can't stand the taste
Energy drinks are simply liquid heart attacks
Yeah I started drinking energy drinks and caffeine shots when I was like 13 I’m 15 now still fine
I too like the smell but don't drink it.
Yeah, humans just like it because we're a lot bigger, so when we consume it the effects are mild and just hype us up instead of overwhelming our nervous system like it does in bugs
Same. Coffee can smell great and I'll stop in that aisle at stores every time.
Caffeine is actually helpful for ADHD and Spectrum peoples... does actually help them concentrate.
Try cold brew. The bitterness mostly comes from the hot water.
can confirm
Good way to root out who's the bug in the chat.
Its one of those 'acquired taste' type drinks.
Which in reality is your brain not thinking the odd/bitter food is poisonous so it starts letting you enjoy it.
If anyone gets a heart attack from caffeine that means they were secretly a bug
We're doing this just like the scene in The Thing.
or they had an underlying condition
Ah so if caffeine kills someome they were actually secretly a bug pretending to be a person
Beat me to it lol
Their game was bugged
My hot take is that any "Acquired taste" is dumb because I don't want to eat/drink things that taste bad until they don't taste so bad 😝 I don't drink beer for the same reason.
Hi phaze!
I don't know, the smell just turns me away from it. I have never liked the smell.
I also love the smell of teas, but don't like the taste.
go to bed mister
Same. No alcohol for me either
Chips/crisps (I hope you enjoy that I did that, Brits) sound great right now.
Its about 3 times usually, but taste also changes as you get older. Things I disliked as a child and teen are tasty now, despite not eating or drinking stuff more since then
It's 8pm here @pliant quarry
mmmm beer.....
yeah it's your bedtime don't make me call your parents
Isn't it only like 9 or 10 there... Not bedtime yet
You think they will ever as mounts to the game? Obviously the map isn’t built for them but maybe like a mole mount that digs terrain or one that glides instead of using a glider something that fits the game
Pub time?!
Oh 8pm lol
waiting for a "you're not my supervisor" gif
ye, I live in that "special" country
we have a few hours yet... american working bees.
Ahhh one of them...
3pm EST. Pub time soon
Prossibly, it's a super popular suggestion so the team is aware of it.
Though there's kinda the question of like... how would you make them useful when players already have gliders and grapple hooks
I've got a few Stouts out to prepare
Also Eastern but no pub
Give us pack yaks that carry a lot
also, my sleep has been getting worse @pliant quarry
I'm surrounded by people from the west Midlands, aren't I
So we can park them outside of POIs and load them up
my kitty is on heat again, week cycle, three days off, another week cycle etc.
California here lol.
It would have to be a special flameborn mount because otherwise you'd just kill your mount in the shroud over and over again
End game replacement for grapple hook and glider maybe make it a super late game thing so those are useful throughout the beginning
God cats in heat are a nightmare to deal with lol, is she still too young to get spayed?
If you get your kitty spayed, no more heat...
nope, it's just that we wanted her to kind of grow up properly, got the visit booked beginning of November
same, same
Cats can be spayed as long as they weigh 2lbs
and Ragdoll's can be weird with being spayed too early
You Pacific time zone punks
PST best zone
They can yeah but it can be better for animals to let them have a few cycles, dogs especially.
I mean, she is weird nonetheless 😄
Ohh rag doll, never mind, definitely a different timeline
acts like a dog
west coast best coast
Well, if it makes you feel any better my family lives in Minnesota ya knoe...
Ah, a Midwesterner
I need wataaaaaaaaaa
Wall I am in too deep with the water puns I keep throwing them into my normal call flow at work.......
NorEaster tyvm
oh you betcha
anyway, here to say hi, hope everyone is doing well, hope y'all excited about the update
and on that note
Ours used to too, but then we got the dog and he was like, nope, I don't wanna act like that idiot -_-;;
The people of Michigan gracefully accept you and offer you fudge and an IPA.
Goodluck!
if I don't come to work on Monday, you know I played for 48hrs straight trying to get wr 😄
I talk to family there, the accent kicks in and my wife yells at me afterwards to stop it.
one of these days I'll visit the Great Lakes region
It's beautiful here. It's like having our own seas
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Illinois. . .
Throughout my life I've lived in Michigan, Colorado, and Texas so my accent is an abomination
But you still say ope, right?
Oufta, Walnut Fudge made with marshmallow and cane sugar aye?
meh on Ohio, hell nah on Indiana, maybe western New York. . .
I have the recipe for that Minnesota fudge right here, it'
yeah and everyone says I prounounce bag wrong
Lowkey my all time favorite part about enshrouded is the instrument playing I feel like more games need to have that
it's what I give to family every year for xmas: fudge tins packed with MN fudge
Bâæg
I honestly am not sure what accent I have
I made fudge for a friend's bday this week. I think my husband's favorite was the rocky road. Chocolate fudge with walnuts and marshmallows
exactly lol
Yup, that's a fav here too. Oreo fudge is another
just so time consuming
born and raised in California, but my father still had a healthy dose of New Yorker accent in his speech and I probably picked a lot of that up, and I'm hearing impaired so that has an impact
Damn I'm gonna need to get some fudge this weekend now.
I do the cheat fudge. Sweetened condensed milk, chocolate, and mixins
I cook it in a double boiler
2 cups (16oz) semi sweet chocolate chips
1.5 cups (12oz) cane sugar (NOT White Sugar)
1.75 cups (14oz) sweet evaporated milk
1/2 cup (4oz) butter (1 stick, salted)
7oz Kraft Marshmallow Creme (or 2 cups mini marshmallows)
1 tsp vanilla or nut extract (hazelnut, walnut or almond extracts are preferred)
OPTIONAL FLAVORS
Abuelita, 1/2 cup grated/powdered (use only 1 cup of chips if used)
100% Cocoa powder 1/2 cup (use only 1 cup of chips if used)
Cinnamon powder
1/2 cup to 1 cup of Walnuts
Mint Chocolate chips, 1/2 Cup
Marshmallow minis, 1/2 Cup
My dad played the first ever MMO ultima online he says every mmo went down hill from there lol
I use a crockpot set to warm
No cinnamon, I'm allergic. Also, I like my easy fudge and I can make large batches releively quick.
yeah, my recipe is literally a modern version of a family one written in 1930
time consuming too
Copied and saved
Your fudge could kill me
Any recipe for fudge is going to come down to prep and cooking.
the thing with fudge is you will never ever be able to make it taste the same twice
Hmm I should have done mint fudge... Darn, will have to do that for xmas
I like having marshmallows in the fudge, gives a nice soft creamy bit in the middle of all that chocolate
try swirls of melted mint chocolate + marshmallow creme at the end when it's hardening
I have mint hot cocoa. I have it every winter. Buy bigs amounts off Amazon and drink it over the months
not enough cocoa content
could use it as a topper but it will not have that much taste if mixed, I know I've tried it
Hmm mint O.O wonder if I could talk my husband into getting mint chocolate chip ice cream to go with the brownies I'm making
Oh that's a swell idea. I should do that.
Andes mint chocolates work the best
I have it all the time. I prefer the mint taste with hints of cocoa, so it works for me
It already has chocolate chips in it, I don't want to add more melties in it
I was thinking in the brownies sorry, am in baking mode thought lol
Yes, the brownies already have chocolate chips in them
Andes Crème de Menthe thins are what I use to get minty anything into baked goods
Okay so definitely getting sweets this weekend
Just make sure you get the water balance right when making it. A tad too much and it washes out the mint and cocoa flavors
Noted. I'll have to mess about with that.
the other way is to introduce the mint later on
Have you had the After Eight chocolate mints? Those are good treats
kind of reminded me of a more refined junior mint iirc
They're a thin chcoalte coating around a mint creme inside. Nestle product you can get at a lot of grocery stores
Lol a bit yes
had those with after dinner tea once
Now that I've spent the last hour with you guys talking about sweets, it's Tim to get back to working on writing samples for job resumes -_- less fun than sweets
how do they compare to Andes mints?
hy
Depends on if you want a hard candy or a soft center. They are both good but if you're looking for a solid candy definitely go Andes. If you want a melty mint splosion then go after eight
anywho, time for me to get some sleep
For me, things like Yorks peppermint patties are overpowering, especially in cooking. Andes actually have a descent cocoa content while having a nice rounded mint flavor that's great for fudge and brownies
nite nite
Yorks are very overpowering. I would never use them in baking
I'm gonna shutup now so you can get back to writing samples for job resumes lol
Baking I only use Andes. On a rare occasion I will use candy canes but that's for the crunch
But... Procrastination!!
What would cause my game to stop and start like a stop-motion cartoon?
Anyone still alive here? 
Is this chat still working?
Depends on your definition of alive
A number of people have died of dehydration
For me it's way past bedtime.
Or are too weak to type
damn, Keen has been dark lately
I don't think they are gonna make it
but wait, I'll get you some water
I survive off of black tea
Here!
Its like water but better
Hydrate yourself!
I prefer cherry coke for hydration
Cherry Dr Pepper
Oh look its the water update
I think that's more the rain update
I left work and started dinner
YES!!!!!!!!
Dr Pepper tastes like medicine to me
I am in here ALL DAY during work
I was out of it today though I told my customer"i can see how that would hinder the flow of your workday" and " Lets fix this and stem the tide of employees asking where their paycheck is"
Cherry Dr pepper sounds a bit like Mr Pibb
i wont if you dont tell mine.
I made a village, I am getting better at this building thing.
well apparently I can share the picture
you can share them in screedshots and art or creative corner. Or if feeling ambitious start a post in builders showcase
I just don't understand why in this server my Gif's don't show, I am starting to fell very unloved...
Embed permissions are turned off.
ohh I see, I own a server and all my members can use them so I guess we are not that special here, JK JK
as a rule of thumb when we can't do a thing, it's cause somewhere down the road, someone abused the thing.
I do totally agree with you, I am sure they have a good reason they done that.
I love it, it's a fun way to communicate
I still make my smiliie faces with the : ), it just gets converted against my wishes
Really, well how come you can use them ??? not fair
They're a helper in the discord Lol
oh I see, well then lol
Yes sir
show off
Abuse of power
yes he is very much so...lol
Gnome's gonna poke your eye out!
That is for him as punishment for taking away the Gif's
Huh, I didn't realize we couldn't
It honestly keeps chat way cleaner and easier to read. Since this is a public discord anyone could join and just spam the crap out of it
And there isn't really a filter on NSFW gifs so that's an issue too
And this is such a fast channel, yup
Yeah I've seen it get pretty active since I've joined and idk if I've even been here a week
I totally agree, I am just playing around.
We get ya 🙂
I guess I should introdue myself then properly!
We have fun here
"we like to do a little bit of trolling, we like to call it trolling"
I totally respect each discord server rules.
Welcome here, user.
I'm Van, the defiler of gifs, the greedy guy of dreams, the one, who brought upon us the upcoming monetization of Enshrouded...
Thus... I'm the guy that was the loudest complaining we... need... COINS! 
so its YOUR fault!
Youre the one who made me PAY FOR THE GAME??
I'm getting a coin.
HE IS
If it wasn't enshrouded I would be mad
Shaped pin from the Enshrouded Store
im giving 2 coins
But I feel I got my $40 value the first hour of gameplay 🤣🤣🤣
Everything after has been a treat
Well... I even got a nice pic of myself in Enshrouded!
40??
show off
That's me.
Oh hell yes. I'm 60 yrs old, and this is the most enjoyable game I have ever played.
I thought I remember paying $40
so true, I am so addicted, I think I need professional help 
its 30 for me though I got it for 20
im in my taking a break phase cause I have no one to play with... UwU
You are correct sir I just checked
I play alone, never played with anyone, I play in easy mode so I kind of suck
Best thing about enshrouded is the pace doesn't push you. There's not a particular way to play other than whats fun
Yeah, I should be working on the Paris Morgue, but I'm too chill tonight :p
I've been putting off my main quests for a while just doing random things. Then I'll go on a quest kick, then back off and build. You just play how you like and I'm solo too. I always prefer solo
Elliza, no way. Easy mode is so chill, just exploring and building. I love it
I did got all my crafters and most villages and done a lot of quests, but in easy mode it's not really a challenge
I used to play co-op with my hubs, but we decided we liked our own games better
silly question but what is the difference between the tavern and the chat channel?
ummm what???
I accept your application into my slavery, so go and build me a castle with my materials now. 
I could be wrong, I thought I read that somewhere
tavern the topic can meander and chage based on what we are talking about at the time enshrouded chat is pure game focused
oh that makes sense, thank you
CMs moderate everything and are the guys who know stuff they got told from the team.
There's not really a channel they moderate
tavern mostly topic what is right now, Enshrouded chat more focus on Enshrouded shtuff
ok, that makes sense
tavern is offtopic as offtopic itself, later (mostly when an update arrives) they prefer to have topics here centralized around Enshrouded too. Mostly if ppl ask stuff and such
Basically tavern channel and off topic channel are like cousins basically
but somehow not
Why did I just picture Toast as the red ranger of the group of CMs.....
off topic is like off off off topic if you catch my drift
Are there other CM's I only know of Toast from the minigame contest
Toast, CoolUsernameBro,,Phaze, and Q
most people here have such cool usernames love it
One too much
Though we seem to see the most of Toast and CUB
..... Frog is no longer with us.............. 🙁
WHAT?????
fired

wow, you are a very strict
they can spank me for mentioning it, but ya, Frog is no longer CM for keen. I cant say more.
I better behave before I get banned LOL
Your good!
Problem is, we don't know the reasons and it only causes ruckus if we talk about that too much, so... We should let that topic leave as it is. Please understand.
Our moderator and CM crew are really chill you gotta really do something heinous to get banned
or coins
Or be Van/End... They need a banning here and there
I was banned once though!
oh no, I would never do anything like that, I just joke a lot, but I am really harmless
noooooooo
What did I do wrong now? 
Agreed, Toast dmed me when I was a rando winner of that contest and he was very nice and chill
Yeah when you asked them too🤣
Oh yeah you did win that one ! good on you!!
just the randomly picked one, but I was Super Stoked to be able to get the pin :)
But yeah I really like the mods here now they are cool and actually interact with us so I appreciate that
ya i got one too!
nice!
Pfft I don't interact.. How dare you!!
ok now I am scared lol
I love that little emote
I don't even get an answer what I did wrong, that much they do be interacting!

There was one though.....He who shall not be named🤣 but Im gonna stop before I get myself in trouble.
By now you should know and if you don't, well that's on you
I'll now pout in my corner.
i love Treasure Planet.
I get a feeling y don't like me.
That makes me puppy eyes...
Are you kidding I think this server as a whole collectively adores you
Now I know you're exaggerating.
