the-tavern

[elder parrot]

Will calm down, sorry primoris, brittish people bring out the worst in me 🤭😂

[raw kelp]

It's my fault is what she's saying

[tame seal]

Our slang is so harmless no one knows what way to take it.

[elder parrot]

^^ deffo the britts fault, im an innocent lil swedish girl twirls hair

Also vukahn gwraaah! ^^

[quiet geyser]

Girls like you are the worst

[raw kelp]

I've seen The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo - I know what you Swedish girls are capable of

[elder parrot]

Lisbeth ^^

Did you see the murrican or proper swedish version? ^^

[raw kelp]

Both!

[elder parrot]

Ah! Points

[raw kelp]

I preferred the Swedish one even though it's super intense in that early scene I won't describe

Same with "Let Me In" - I saw the American and Swedish versions but prefer the original Swedish one

[elder parrot]

Europe knows how to make tense

Same! ^^

Also brittish the office is downright paaaaainful, while the us is more light fun ^^

[timid breach]

European cinema is just very "different" from Hollywood 😅

[elder parrot]

Painful in a good humour way

[raw kelp]

Yeah, they're very different

Honestly, I prefer the US Office even though I'm from the UK. The original is such an uncomfortable viewing experience lol

The final episode is adorable when Dawn comes back though

[elder parrot]

The boss is 'cringe' in a way much rougher then the us

I like both version in diff ways ^^

[raw kelp]

I recommend Extras by Ricky Gervais if you like the UK Office

[elder parrot]

Been meaning to try it,

Gervais himself have lost some social kudos in my eyes,
But his series was deffo good ^^

[raw kelp]

I agree. His views on trans stuff upset me

And I constantly see him in that YouTube advert about bear bile farming and I'm thinking "maybe care about people too m8"

[elder parrot]

Yeah its so.. needless - punch up and keep chill kinda, instead of cheapshots against that group that already are so hard pressed

[raw kelp]

I think there's a French film called "The Colour Blue" or something like that and it sums this up perfectly. There's also a French film called "Raw" that's extremely intense

[raw kelp]

yar, for sure. They've got enough hate already without a comedian joining in. I preferred it when he just mocked religion

[elder parrot]

Yeah!

Oooh ive a funny jokeclip about swedish/scandinavian murder movies, imma share it in offtopic, its brilliant and spot on ^^

[raw kelp]

Frankie Boyle is one of the most dark comedians ever but he's stood up for the trans community and doesn't mock them. He's also my favourite comedian by far. I think it's really basic to mock minorities and I think it betrays a lack of comedic creativity to do so

[elder parrot]

Here: #off-topic message

[gentle forum]

If you could move the discussion there too I'd be greatly appreciated too (:

Bit much for this channel.

[elder parrot]

Its back to movies now ^^

There is also 'enshrouded-chat' which i believe was made since this is more allover the place among regulars

Chitchat at the tavern ^^

[gentle forum]

It's for general enshrouded talk, you guys are way way off-topic now.

[viral scarab]

Oh I love that joke

[elder parrot]

Yeah its funny and nails scandinavian murder movies well lol ^^

[smoky oar]

Would anyone like to chat while I build in the game?

[elder parrot]

Can deffo chat with us right here, unless you mean voice specifically ^^

[smoky oar]

I meant voice so I don't have to keep alt tabbing lol

[elder parrot]

nauw ^^

[quasi crane]

Ah okay du bist deutsch xD

[smoky oar]

??

[elder parrot]

Its like a sweet "oh/aww" well wishing? ^^

[smoky oar]

ohh ok

[elder parrot]

^^ mhm!

[gentle forum]

There's voice chats in the Enshrouded LFG discord

[smoky oar]

Ohh ok thanks

[pine fox]

can i move stuff around after i-ve placed it?

like the charcoal kiln and stuff

[tame seal]

You have to break it down and rebuild it.

[pine fox]

what about npcs

[tame seal]

You can resummon them using the summoning staff.

[pine fox]

ok cool, do i get my stuff back after i've destroyed it?

[tame seal]

Most if not all (Cant recall specificaly if you get everything or not)

[pine fox]

neat thanks

oh you can actually pick it up

[tame seal]

Actually, yes, you're right, you can 😄 I forget they are items in your inventory.

[pine fox]

do weapons evolve as i use them or spending runes? or both?

[gentle forum]

The amount of perks depends on the rarity. They don't level up, you have to spend runes to upgrade them.

[pine fox]

what do i do with the unwanted equipment?

[gentle forum]

Salvage it for runes

[elder parrot]

Offer it to the vukah, as reparations! Gwrah! ^^

[pine fox]

how do i salvage it 🥸

[forest crane]

Right click and select salvage. It'll show how many runes you'll get in ( )

[pine fox]

i only see delete

[forest crane]

Armor can't be salvaged. Only weapons.

[pine fox]

oh i see it now

thanks

[forest crane]

Unwanted armor, you can either build some more chests and stash it or delete it.

[gentle forum]

Some weapons can't be salvaged

[forest crane]

I've always been able to salvage all weapons.

Which ones?

[pine fox]

also how do i get rid of mud in my house :0

[forest crane]

That one is a little tricker. But once you know the trick, it's easy.

Grab the hammer. Enter building mode. Select one of the "terrain" building options. I usually use the flat horizontal 4m terrain option. Then lower it so the bottom of the outline lines up with the floor, and right click. It'll remove the terrain.

You can also use that to quickly level areas. That or the rake. And then build over it.

But once you've already built some flooring, the rake is a lot harder to use.

I think there are some YT videos for how to do it.

[pine fox]

i see it now thanks

[forest crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqLgNETKb8E

Video shows a few methods for doing it.

[pine fox]

got it from your explenation thanks

[cyan lintel]

hiding under the covers

call that enshrouded

[mellow sun]

hello there

hello?

got some information but it can wait...nobodys listening amyway

[quasi saffron]

Information on what?

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-always-listening-alyssa-navarro-wong-fu-productions-when-ads-are-too-specific-they-never-stop-listening-gif-13620311392269236473

[craggy steppe]

A quick question, if I deactivate the flame altar at my main steading to move it, do I have to re upgrade it when I place it back down?

[noble anchor]

For build area, yes.

Flame level, no.

[craggy steppe]

Thank you

[cyan lintel]

hiding in the dark

call that enshrouded

[normal dune]

Sup

[lethal rune]

under the blankets? enshrouded

in the car with tinted windows? enshrouded

[quasi saffron]

Way too hot?
Envaporized.

[elder parrot]

Good morning erryone!
Also melting already at only 19c

Will be 24, its enough that i will flee to forestlake after my responsibilities

Hoomans invented warmth. Gwrah!

[quiet geyser]

portugal this weekend 40C down to 28C today

[quasi saffron]

Up to 34

[quiet geyser]

-15 here and I m melting

[signal ocean]

good morning gang

it's also cooler here today

[vapid canopy]

Morning!

[elder parrot]

Mornin' ^^

Atleast 3 hours until i can bike to forestlake in good conscience

[vapid canopy]

Stay safe out there when you do

[quasi saffron]

Wheres the amphibian.

[quasi saffron]

And how much?
I can feel my bones.

[signal ocean]

it's like 20 right now

[quasi saffron]

I envy you. I hope you know that.

[signal ocean]

well on the plus side it means yoU're gonna get this weather in a couple days

[quasi saffron]

Not necessarily
But I'd appreciate that.

Later at noon there should be a heavy thunderstorm show up.
Lately these were one thunder and gone without rain even.

[gentle forum]

Good morning little words on my screen.

[quasi saffron]

What if we start chatting in capital words?

[elder parrot]

BIG WORDS SCREEN GWRAAAAH! ^^

[gentle forum]

Neither of those are big words

[elder parrot]

I usually submerge myself into the water erry 20 mins when im there! ^^

[gentle forum]

-# This is what I see when you speak

[elder parrot]

Nationalencyclopedin! ^^

[gentle forum]

Hmm you speak like a Witch

Burn the witch, burn her

[elder parrot]

Big word (national encyclopedia)

I will hide in water. No burn possible! Hmpf!

Also, i can float, so! ^^

[gentle forum]

Cade is helping me mine

[elder parrot]

That looks like some vukahless game ^^

[gentle forum]

Sounds like a dream

[elder parrot]

Dream of sadness

[gentle forum]

Don't think so

[elder parrot]

Or, do you think so-so? ^^

(Ive too much freetime at this project)

[gentle forum]

Vukah are despicable creatures

[elder parrot]

They are lovely ^^

[gentle forum]

I learned their language to lure them into a false sense of security. Then I strike.

[quasi saffron]

I'd say everyone who has it 30°C+ should only work half the day

[elder parrot]

But ur texas accent betrays u! ^^

[elder parrot]

Oh looks, i guess the spiced one is the colourful one?

[gentle forum]

It looks pretty

[elder parrot]

Does, changed vote from rooibos so i dont ruin the science ^^

[gentle forum]

🤔

[elder parrot]

Polls are very serious ^^

Cant willy-nilly such an important decision and have the scientists draw the wrong conclusions ^^

[hardy kindle]

morning peeps

[vapid canopy]

morning Frog!

[elder parrot]

Morning froggie ^^

[vapid canopy]

how ya doin?

[tame seal]

Morning, Frog!

[hardy kindle]

pretty okay and you?

[gentle forum]

Frog, the poll. It needs to your vote

[vapid canopy]

doing better than i was before.

[hardy kindle]

done

[gentle forum]

Thank you. no one wants leaf drink apparently

[hardy kindle]

good to hear

[hardy kindle]

I mean if I have the choice between fancy flower and some grass poking out, of course I'm taking the fancy flower

[gentle forum]

Good idea

[elder parrot]

It was about looks. For taste red rooibos is very nommy otherwise ^^

'Spice' is a very vague descript for a plant ^^

[hardy kindle]

I was thinking of a chai, which is essentially just spices

[elder parrot]

But like does 'spices' in plural grow as one plant? ^^

[gentle forum]

mmm chai tea

[elder parrot]

Tea tea ^^

[gentle forum]

leaf

[signal ocean]

how ominous

[gentle forum]

Says the talking hedgehog

[signal ocean]

I'm just a little guy!

hey I'm walking here!!

I'm walking here!

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-cowboy-cant-you-see-were-walking-here-gif-4062042

[gentle forum]

This you?

[signal ocean]

no

why would I be smiling

[carmine scroll]

why wouldnt you?

[signal ocean]

I've got a few reasons

[carmine scroll]

ope!

[signal ocean]

126801 reasons to frown

[gentle forum]

Is that your inbox

[carmine scroll]

hmm

[signal ocean]

that's our members list

[gentle forum]

If it makes you feel any better there's only 48 people actually online

[signal ocean]

maybe

[subtle prawn]

Interesting it shows 26 less for me

[carmine scroll]

[signal ocean]

the API /back end are both notoriously broken

[subtle prawn]

Discord is broken anyway especially mobile

[signal ocean]

server insights shows even more discrepancy

[gentle forum]

whats api

[signal ocean]

stop adding activities and store pages, Discord. Fix your existing features pls

[carmine scroll]

lol ya like that will ever happen!

[gentle forum]

Buy more avatar decorations and more nitro

[tame seal]

Fix something?!!!!! What economy do you think we live in?

[signal ocean]

ikr

[gentle forum]

hehe Mondays am I right?

Whoever tied that poll, you're getting the cane tonight

[tame seal]

Kinky

[signal ocean]

I took spicy tea to mean macha

[gentle forum]

What if I use a gerbil

[signal ocean]

what if you use a hedgehog

[gentle forum]

too spiky

[signal ocean]

better make the movements count

[gentle forum]

Oh no. She's the CEO of Logitech?

My mouse ):

[signal ocean]

also got a Logitech mouse... not a big fan of their software

their keyboards are very resilient and I really like them

[gentle forum]

I have a nice little panda keyboard

[signal ocean]

ew no numpad

[elder parrot]

Discord wont fix, they just build for ios target and use reactnative and multitarget compile or some such.

They want more nitro money, not more actual work!

And people keep giving them nitro money

[tame seal]

What is it with keyboards without numpads these days?

[elder parrot]

Its kids keyboards, they cant handle a full one ^^

[gentle forum]

The only time I ever hated not having a full size keyboard is when I was modeling game assets in Blender

[elder parrot]

I bind game functions to numpad, wouldnt even think of being without

NumPad0 = sprint/run ftw.

[gentle forum]

I think that one I linked is actually larger than mine

[elder parrot]

Smaller then my touchpad (its not like there is a size comparison)

[gentle forum]

Came with a cool mousemat and a panda

[elder parrot]

^^

But 25% of the keyboard is gone

[signal ocean]

I have a beautiful Valheiom mousemat

[gentle forum]

finally that's the one lmao

[elder parrot]

Panda is cute, but shortened eyboard ^^

[gentle forum]

I needed something small for when I traveled and don't need a full size keyboard

[signal ocean]

that is not how this works and also let's not talk about this

[elder parrot]

Alriight bad word choice, sorry!

[signal ocean]

thank you

[elder parrot]

Fixed ❤️

[gentle forum]

My mousemat is dirty

[signal ocean]

was it ever in doubt

[gentle forum]

I've tried washing it but I may need to buy a new one.

[tame seal]

Any mousemat not dirty doesn't deserve the name.

[gentle forum]

Where enshrouded mosuemat

[elder parrot]

Ive some cheap deltaco xxl mat i think, no motive. Im boring

[signal ocean]

we were talking about merch at some point, but I think we got busy with other considerations

been a hot minute since I heard about swag

well, merch

[elder parrot]

Vukah mat!

[signal ocean]

swag... I hear about it every day

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-the-swag-lilly-singh-canadas-got-talent-good-swagger-nice-clothes-gif-25318759

120 x 60 cm / 3mm thick mousemat. Thanks.

[elder parrot]

Like a vukah mat, vukahs feasting and there is some royal on the side dipped upside down in a pile of dirty coins and primoris trying to pull him out by the legs!

Or is that a bit too specific? ^^ 🤭

[gentle forum]

What do you suppose Vukah would taste like, Cub?

I'd assume quite sinewy.

[elder parrot]

Honeymelon, a dash of lavender and grapes.
But... noone would eat a vukah! 🤬 gwrah

[tame seal]

Chicken. If in doubt, everything tastes like chicken.

[elder parrot]

Not chicken, what bollocks! Gwrah!

Cub is careful to not loose keen all the many vukah customers mhm! ^^

Very economically ztrongh demographic! nods ^^

[subtle prawn]

The 2 people who support vukahs?

[tame seal]

The vukah and vukah adjacent.

[subtle prawn]

Both are labelled terrorists in the ancients book

[elder parrot]

Two... ?! Gwraaah there must be many!

Maaaaany!

[signal ocean]

I wouldn't want to eat humanoid meat, sounds like a great way to ingest toxins

[gentle forum]

Would you at least join the Vukah Hunting Club as an honorary member? Maybe go out on an expedition.

[elder parrot]

The final update shall be called "Vukah Crowned, rulers of peace and prosperity update" and u will all see!

^^

[subtle prawn]

The vukahs are evil

[elder parrot]

Hoomans are the ones running into their homes

[tame seal]

You watch, the final, final boss will be a castle sized Vukah that you have to shoot an arrow into it's knee to defeat.

[elder parrot]

Vukahs would fight the fell!

Fell which are hoomans that got greedy!

[subtle prawn]

Not necessarily

[elder parrot]

starts sewing kneepads for my children

[signal ocean]

I would actually rather we profoundly change up the quests and storylines around the Vukah so they're less big savages you kill, and more an emergent society you can choose to ally with

[signal ocean]

but that's only my opinion ofc and it would require substantial work

[elder parrot]

Yes! ❤️

Its promised now Cub, im going to the media! ^^

[gentle forum]

I get a tribalist vibe from them, performing creepy rituals to summon giant hulking monsters..

[signal ocean]

well they are a tribal society

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-mort-they-are-savages-savages-savage-people-gif-25284639

[orchid tree]

the minidumps are killing me

i did all of the steps in both the old and the new ticket commands

[subtle prawn]

If they wouldn't attack you on sight maybe

[orchid tree]

i have over 440 hours on this game, 400 of them is trying to resolve those issues

[signal ocean]

please reach out to our support on Zendesk, you'll get dedicated help from professionals
https://enshrouded.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[orchid tree]

Thank you so much <333333

[elder parrot]

Thats just because keen programmed their AI wrong, or cus they smell that you are chaos and a deceiver gwrah! ^^

[carmine scroll]

i agree. wheres the petition?

[subtle prawn]

I wouldn't need to try out my new fireball if they are peaceful

[signal ocean]

in my understanding of the world they have good reasons to want to attack you

[subtle prawn]

So I need to exterminate them as a response

[signal ocean]

my conspiracy theory is thus: why are there things in the world that seem to have been laying in ruins for centuries, and others that seem to have been abandoned last week?

[elder parrot]

Hmmm

[carmine scroll]

i know the answer to that actually.

[elder parrot]

I know the vukah deffo didnt make elixir wells and brought the shroud hmpf ^^

[carmine scroll]

see that last one he deleted reminds me of what i hate about MMOs
they all have simgle player stories.

[signal ocean]

dumping this in a thread

[carmine scroll]

im so tired of mmo questlines.

[elder parrot]

I never like mmos ^^

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[carmine scroll]

i enjoyed runescap back in the day.

even when it sucked.

[elder parrot]

That seems oldstyle enough to mebbe be fun

But i never got wow

Bored me quick

[carmine scroll]

the quests are fun and let you have agency

ff14 and wow trest you like an errand boy.

[elder parrot]

Never tried a mmo and cooldown-bar clickfests since

[carmine scroll]

but runescape and old republic give you dialogue amd choices.

[subtle prawn]

So Embervale = Lordran (Darksouls)

[elder parrot]

Kotor 1 and 2 was lovely, but not the online one, felt too mmo ^^

[subtle prawn]

An mmo feels too mmo?

[elder parrot]

Like the formula as established by wow

That kind of 'mmo'

[gentle forum]

👀

[gentle forum]

That's my consensus, especially the last dlc for ds3

[subtle prawn]

I haven't payed attention to why the ringed city exists xD but 1 and 3 definitely are the same as CUB is describing right now

[gentle forum]

Time's screwed up and all the timelines are stacked on top of each other basically

[carmine scroll]

i wondercwhat the oroginal everquest was like. i heard the quests were expansive.

[quasi saffron]

My timeline: Get work done.

[vocal fjord]

jesus, the UI has changed alot when i last played 😅

wait how much health do you have???

the last time i played (2016) max health was 990

excluding the mastery cape that added an extra 10 i think

[gentle forum]

HP was changed to Constitution forever ago, and instead of Hitpoints you have Lifepoints which each level adds 100. You start out at 1000

[vocal fjord]

Dear God O_O

so they multiplied by 10 again?

back when i played, you started with 100 health

[gentle forum]

I think with gear it caps out at like 32k

[vocal fjord]

and got 10 for every level

it is a shame that defense never reduced damage, just evasion

[gentle forum]

They've been multiplied by 10 since like 2010

[vocal fjord]

i think i was on hiatus at the time so i was very out of the loop

agility is a pretty cool skill though, faster stamina regen so you can travel faster

and pair it with the resting toggle to make it even faster

[safe swan]

I'd vote for this!!

[elder parrot]

Good votes! ❤️

[vocal fjord]

the scavengers?

yeah i'd be interested in them being a potential 3D faction

[elder parrot]

Nooo

[vocal fjord]

what

[elder parrot]

Not the scavengers

[vocal fjord]

but i thought the vukah are the scavengers?

[safe swan]

omg

[vocal fjord]

wait you mean the boar people?

[elder parrot]

Vukah are big cuties with fur ^^

[vocal fjord]

ah ok

im sorry about that

[elder parrot]

That is oki ^^

You are forgiven!

[vocal fjord]

answer is still the same though, i'd like to see them more fleshed out to make them feel like a more 3D faction (the vukah)

[elder parrot]

^^

[vocal fjord]

any other potential factions that could get more depth to them?

or would new ones need to be made for that?

[quasi saffron]

I think the Shroud guys severly need more flesh

[elder parrot]

Im not sure having diff factions to (side with) that would be opposed to one another fits the games story tho

Not in an active sense where it matters

[quasi saffron]

I'd side with the blue ones against the Vukah.

[quiet geyser]

im goingto end myself if this becomes real

[hardy osprey]

Blackened staff no more drop or what

[quasi saffron]

I had it drop quite often lately

[vocal fjord]

what....................... 😠

they think we would enjoy being ripped off?

[quasi saffron]

Who does not.
We all enjoy in anger.
You cannot hate what you do not love.
Or smth along these lines?
It's too hot for professional trolling

[vocal fjord]

thats not what i mean

i REFUSE to pay monthly for stuff that is supposed to be one time purchases

like if i have to pay monthly for windows 12, i rather use linux

value is something consumers want

why do you think i stopped buying Triple A games and went with Indie? 😅

(well Triple A of today's games)

[quasi saffron]

I do both and pick cherrys

A well informed customer is one that won't end up scammed.

[vocal fjord]

yeah... that's why i am tight fisted with my money, i've been screwed too many times, and it's going to keep doubling down until a video game crash happens again.

[quasi saffron]

Sorry.
I crashed my SNES games copies into my Playstation 1 ones the first time.
We know both don't like each other

[vocal fjord]

ouch

im more referring to when the market is so oversaturated with something that people don't want to bother anymore

back in 83 it was clones and clones of games with not much value to the games

and today's world it's about milking us of our money...

that's why i rather do indie games, one and done purchases from developers that are passionate about making their games, instead of treating them like money machines.

tbh i dont know what to think anymore...

[quasi saffron]

That's what I like about CUB

Enshrouded prior EA:
"Buy 30 copies and your dog also one!"
After: "Holy, how did we got 3 Mio people"

And now they have opinionated gamers to deal with

[fossil parcel]

Opinionated people are always there, thinking everyone should care about what they think/say

[vocal fjord]

what's CUB?

[signal ocean]

it's me, heya

[pliant quarry]

What's everyone up to this timezone?

[gentle forum]

I'm in the limbo timeline, intersects with normal US waking hours and the start of EU.

[quasi saffron]

I'm in the at home timeline (finally) trying to get myself in a shape again

[gentle forum]

Which one

[quasi saffron]

I think its called solid or flexible.

The actual shape I have right now can be called a puddle or pudding.

[grand apex]

Getting ready to install a new ledger board on a well house, myself.

[quiet geyser]

On loo ..

[pliant quarry]

same

[pliant quarry]

good luck

[quiet geyser]

thx

How are you toast?

[quasi saffron]

Yeah. How is our beloved, full of gluten stuffed, Toast today.

[pliant quarry]

tired but good, had insomnia last night so I am being carried on the back of this fun little molecular structure right now

[quasi saffron]

I don't drink brown stuff.

[gentle forum]

What do you all think Cub's dinosaur was named growing up?

[quasi saffron]

Cub-o-saurus-Rex?

I called my Robot Ronny

[quiet geyser]

So have to ask this month we are not having any new things?

[lament monolith]

My work confiscated my pc today with all my local game saves on it..........My precious treehouse!

[signal ocean]

what

I didn't have a dinosaur plushie I had a Tiggers

my grandma knitted little outfits for him

he looked very trendy

[gentle forum]

I meant the actual creature

[signal ocean]

u guys got dinosaurs growing up?

I got chickenpox

we are not the same

[gentle forum]

Who didn't have chickenpox parties growing up?

[signal ocean]

didn't need the party got it in small committee

[gentle forum]

What are you a politician now?

[quasi saffron]

I had an alligator, a robot and a pet dog to cuddle

[gentle forum]

I had the craving for attention from my parents

[lament monolith]

I had pigeons lots and lots of them

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/silicon-valley-jared-gif-27477732

[quasi saffron]

Did you at least write letters?

[gentle forum]

Van is part pigeon, he could communicate with them for you

[lament monolith]

Yep. I also raced them

[quasi crane]

how to not get absolutely flashbanged by light cominng through windows in my house?

[quasi saffron]

At that time, pigeons were used to send letters.
We, humanity, are to blame for having them everywhere in our lives

[quasi saffron]

Blink

[quasi crane]

but

its so bright

my eyes

[quasi saffron]

Otherwise 2 other solutions:

1. Shoot arrows until sun goes out
2. Turn your monitors light out

If you mind me, I'll adore the sunburn I probably got and stare more into the sun

[gentle forum]

I have the same issue when I walk outside my house, idk what that big bright ball in the sky is

[lament monolith]

In all seriousness create a bit of depth in your windows add a little extra trim on the outside of them and it can cut the amount of light that come in down a bit. That is ofcourse if you mean in game. If you mean in reality we have these things called blinds lol(joking)

[quasi crane]

alr. i did mean in game btrqw

also would you know how to fix part of my window being cut into the block below it

[strange barn]

What uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

[quasi saffron]

I think that depends on the block u're using

Some blocks are, like humans, chunkier.

[quasi crane]

yeah its only happening with my shroud wood windows

[quasi saffron]

Yup. It's the block

[high nexus]

big chungus of blocks

[quasi crane]

is it a bad idea to put bonfire in ur house

aka will it catch fire

[lament monolith]

nope

[quasi crane]

lol its quite loud tho

[lament monolith]

there is no mechanic to catch things on fire....yet

But once there is all those giant piles of dead grass in the blackmire are getting lit!

[quasi saffron]

And the brown furballs within them.

[quasi crane]

why on earth is the scavenger campfire so loudl ol

ill take it for extra comfort levels tho :p

nvm the reach of this thing is insane

[quasi saffron]

All comfort items do count as long as they're inside the altar placed in which build range you're in

[quasi crane]

Oh!

[quasi saffron]

See? I'm not always trolling.

[carmine scroll]

only 90% of the time.

[gentle forum]

I've decided that Vanolia will reroll to Mage in The War Within.

[lament monolith]

Is that the next updates name!!!!!

[tame seal]

For this? no.

[gentle forum]

Yes!

[lament monolith]

Yeah i figured it was WOW

[gentle forum]

You didn't specify which game

[elder parrot]

Hmmm gwraaar!

[lament monolith]

Watch somebody see this and spreading like wildfire thinking its for this game though!

[gentle forum]

It wouldn't be the first time something I said was posted on reddit with no context

[tame seal]

I hear a lot of Prims 'teaching' get spread all over.

[lament monolith]

there are some very interesting things circulating reddit about this game

[tame seal]

I'm fortunate to not know how to use reddit.

[strange barn]

Primo's getting famous

Need to pick a hammer and do some stuff in this game, my blood pressure's getting to high

as Primoris Fame

[lament monolith]

I am about to ditch work for the day and play I cannot handle anyone else whining about not getting their paycheck!

[gentle forum]

I'll take yours then

[vapid canopy]

Hello!

[lament monolith]

There was a banking error with a large chain over here and everyone's direct deposit came a few hours late. You would swear it was the end of the world

[warm flume]

Imagine working for a bank (me)

[lament monolith]

I am close I work for a payroll processing service

[quasi saffron]

Imagine me working in such.

[ivory holly]

Is there an option for reducing the bloom please?

[cedar junco]

so when portalknights 2?

[elder parrot]

Enshrouded doesnt have alot of bloom

[grand nimbus]

What're the chances of the twitch drops coming back?

[gentle forum]

They'll come back in the future.

[zinc rivet]

i wish they were just a quest in-game. Would be so much fairer and more fun.

[grand nimbus]

Agreed. Make them Twitch only at first, then add them later on in game

[quasi saffron]

That may happen, future will tell.
We don't know, only the Keen staff knows yet.

[tame seal]

Even keen staff don't know what plans they'll change in the future ^^

[ivory holly]

Whats the white hue called and how do I remove it please?

[pliant quarry]

Yep we said we plan to bring the back in some way in the future, just haven't said how yet :)

[safe swan]

Do we get some spooky decos for Halloween? 🥺 I know there's Hollow Halls blocks and decos, but something in general like spider webs for walls and... 😅

[quasi saffron]

I think we need an anti web mode.
I don't fear spiders.
I'm afraid of the mess they make.

[lament monolith]

nothing worse then walking into a spider web in the dark

[gentle forum]

Or those dirty rats

[lament monolith]

every time I see them in game I flash back to the rats from skyrim

[gentle forum]

I correlate them to fromsoft dogs

[fossil parcel]

Has anyone tried Stormgate? Was reading very mixed reviews around and was curious if someone here played it

[woeful light]

spiders are ridiculous, imagine building a home out of something that came out of your butt

[quasi saffron]

Nice.
I got my nightmare fuel for todays night.
Just because I wanted to read this chat.

[fossil parcel]

Is Stormgate that bad? XD I'll stay away then 😄

[quasi saffron]

Was more about Zaphkiels stuff.

[woeful light]

I'm watching Legacy: steel and sorcery

[fossil parcel]

I know, but I couldn't resist

[fossil parcel]

How's that? Never heard of it

[worthy cave]

Wandering Npc’s wen, more cosmetics wen, wandering villagers for your towns wen, more rp stuff wen, and toggle on/off friendly fire wen

[tame seal]

When it arrives, When it arrives, When it arrives, When it arrives, When it arrives.

[gentle forum]

Do not feed the trolls.

[tame seal]

Feed you enough....

[quasi saffron]

Well, obviously the wandering NPCs need to travel some distance until they arrive.
More cosmetics will come with updates, which means in/at around the next update which happens to come to an unknown point of time.
Wandering villagers are the same as the forementioned NPCs.
What is rp stuff? What do you wish to see?
And the toggle is, really, an afterthought and can be implemented way later. PvP is not the focus anyway.

[woeful light]

I would say there is a long list of more important things to work on.

[graceful fjord]

And I made my base taller....I thought I was going to just make it shorter....but nooo it went up and another up...

[quiet geyser]

Essentially, the player “drank” their own weapon. Big gulp.

Sighs. I should call her.

[hard shale]

what a wild comment 😂

[elder parrot]

They should make 'weapon eating/drinking' a skill, and give diff buffs depending on weapon we eat ^^

[grand apex]

I can beathe fire, but I've never tried sword swallowing.

[dawn pulsar]

Does the tank skill tree just not do anything? im maxed out on it and not taking any more aggro than anyone else.

they seem to just latch onto whoever is doing the most dps, so whats the point of having a tank skill tree that has aggro abilities if they dont do anything

[quasi saffron]

The skills to bind enemies are broken.
Namely Nemesis and Archnemesis

[dawn pulsar]

ah well, at least you can reset lol. thanks

is there like a list of all the broken skills or something

or like a list of the few that do work

[dawn pulsar]

or do just none of them really work?

ill admit they got me pretty good, 2.1 hours of playtime when I realized skill tree didnt do anything. think its too late to refun d

[quasi saffron]

The Skill tree does mostly work.
It's just these both who don't

Also, If that is really a reason right now to refund, it's up to Steams customer service to do so.

[dawn pulsar]

ok so just submit a refund request?

can I just say it was crashing or something?

[quasi saffron]

Dunno. Never did it myself yet.
I'd just be honest.
I mean, 2,1h is barely over the 2h refund window

[dawn pulsar]

ill just say like crashing (I accidentally alt+f4'd a couple times) and then false advertisement since the skill tree doesn't function

thanks for your help

sounds like the boys on discord will be doing the same

[quasi saffron]

I wonder still, what else do you think does not work?

[dawn pulsar]

isn't it just the skill tree doesn't function?

[quasi saffron]

The entire tree works.
It's only 1-2 skills, namely the ones with aggro management who dont

[dawn pulsar]

oh, so what are the 1-2 skills that do work?

is it enough to build out a full part of 12 with? im playing with some friends

[quasi saffron]

Everything else?

Theres yet a skill I need to find that does not work. 😅
Well except Nemesis and Archnemesis

[dawn pulsar]

so why were you telling me to submit request refunds to steam?

that doesn't sound so bad

[quasi saffron]

I never told you that you have to.
But you seemed upset and brought up the idea.

Also, I said from the beginning it's only these two skills that are right now in the category of "needs more work". 😅

[dawn pulsar]

is there a way to cancel a refund

I just dont get why you would be pushing me to get a refund if that was the issue

I feel silly paying for 2 years of server hosting in advanced now too

[quasi saffron]

If the refund has yet to be approved you can actually jump over to help.steampowered.com, go to the game, and there should be a "cancel refund" button.

[dawn pulsar]

Ill wait until they get more skills working I think, 1-2 skills just doesn't seem like a lot for an RPG. I guess well go back to playing Dota 2 or something. just sucks game looked pretty cool.

[quasi saffron]

I was never pushing you to do a refund.

[dawn pulsar]

seemed like you were saying "oh yeah this game is an early-access survival game and the skill tree is broken"

but I maybe was misunderstanding

english not my first langauge sorry

[quasi saffron]

#the-tavern message
That was my second message in that regard.

[dawn pulsar]

yeah you told me to go to steam to refund

I thoguht you were an admin so I did

[quasi saffron]

Uhm. Nono.
The Admins (or Community Manager) are the blue named ones, namely CoolUsernameBro, Toast and Frog.
Purple names are Moderators (Community volunteers).
Salmon people in here are "Helpers" who also volunteer to help people out with questions.

[dawn pulsar]

well that doesn't seem very helpful to be pushing people to refund the game 🤔 I guess I should have looked at ranks closer

I thought it was admin telling me that

[quasi saffron]

I'm just a "you can ask me stuff"-guy.
Not more.
We should add the not-a-mod-tag again I feel. 😅

[quasi saffron]

Again, you seemed upset.
I just told you, that you could've a chance to refund the game if you will so.
There was no pushing to it.
Also, I told you it's "only those two passives" that are broken.

[dawn pulsar]

well now I feel bad, I refunded on indie developers .. had I known there was 1-2 working skill trees.. but I was pushed to do so >..>

what I heard was only 1-2 working skills and to refund on steam

btw which 2 are the ones that work? iss assasain function?

[quasi saffron]

Okay. I feel like I need to take that slower.
First: The tree does work. Almost every Skill that is not threat based, to have enemies a certain target attacking, does work flawlessly.
Second: I never pushed you, really, I just told you there is the option remaining to do so because Steam is accommodating in these regards.
Third: You still can cancel your refund request If you want to, by heading to help.steampowered.com - choose the game you wanted to refund (namely Enshrouded) and push the "cancel refund" button.
Fourth: If you have difficultys with english, I'd recommend using a translator.

[dawn pulsar]

so you are saying you want me to go refund on steam?

ok i thought thats what you meant, if you insist. ill trust your judgement

thank you for help

[quasi saffron]

Quite the opposite

But... You seem really not to understand what I am talking about.

[woeful light]

🤨

[dawn pulsar]

no I understand

I go on help.steampowered like you siad

thank you sorry for misunderstanding, we are refunding now

[quasi saffron]

I'm confused how you have taken it the exact opposite way I meant it.

[dawn pulsar]

?

u tell me only 1-2 skill tree and to refund so i did i dont know why you are being rude

[subtle prawn]

That's outright a lie....

[dawn pulsar]

thats how I felt because on the steam page it said their were lots of skills or at least acted like there was

feels like some game developers will do anything for a buck nowadays.. but had i been told there was 1-2 skill trees i wouldnt have reufnd

[craggy steppe]

Do you think the devs will introduce rain into the game?

[tame seal]

Weather is on the roadmap. When? May be tomorrow may be next year, we don't know.

[craggy steppe]

Ok, I was just curious, have been enjoying the game so far.

[tame seal]

There's plenty to enjoy ^^

[craggy steppe]

And plenty to learn

Am hoping for rounded building blocks soon

[subtle prawn]

Very unlikely to happen

[tame seal]

It's not out of the realm of possibility, but it's a harder undertaking given the engine, so i'd say later rather than sooner.

[normal dune]

I'm still trying to level up as a mage without dying everytime I go out. Lol

[craggy steppe]

I hear you, and understand rounded building blocks bing later rather ten sooner

[normal dune]

I have great mage ability suggestions

Maybe to make it easier on us

[tame seal]

If we do get something like 'rounded' blocks, they'll be just that i imagine, still blocks but just skinned to look rounded, which will have their own limitations.

[craggy steppe]

mhmm

[floral helm]

Official Enshrouded Feature Suggestions

What is Feature Upvote?

• It is a site where players can make suggestions for the game and upvote other suggestions for a chance to get them implemented.
• Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.

Suggestions may be open/closed at any time to review backlogs.

• Upvote suggestions you like to increase their chances of being implemented.

Enshrouded Feature Upvote: Click Here

Keep suggestions to one per ticket, we will delete any tickets containing general feedback, multiple suggestions or duplicates (as that defeats the purpose of the site.)

[tame seal]

Have a look at the link above, upvote anything you like, suggest anything you don't find. (Look thoroughly, any duplicate suggestions just get deleted or merged ^^)

[normal dune]

Will do thanks. I play mage in every game I can and I die alot. So I have some skills I think would make it easier.

[tame seal]

Early game mage does feel a little 'underpowered' but it does get better towards end of current content.

[craggy steppe]

How do you upvote? Click the #Feature or content?

[tame seal]

You've clicked the 'click here' ? On the site, click on the suggestion then the upvote button is beneath the current votes.

[normal dune]

Where can I post a meme? It's related to this game too

[craggy steppe]

Ok Killercod, I upvoted several suggestions.

[quasi saffron]

But did you upvote for...
||More decorations such as placeable coins? ||

[signal ocean]

wait, the skills are broken and you didn't tell me?

[quiet geyser]

Shame on you not telling him ... Shame shame shame

[quasi saffron]

But I filed a bug report...
As many others did I guess?

It's since Hollow Halls update release that said Hollow just run to everyone and everywhere but not to the one having those talents

Or is everyone today just about toying with me. Did I miss a special date?

[hardy kindle]

morning everyone

[tame seal]

Morning, Frog.

[subtle prawn]

Morning Frog

[vapid canopy]

Morning Frog!

[hardy kindle]

how is everyone?

[quiet geyser]

bored..

[elder parrot]

People need to communicate better, i can tell further above there was a language misunderstanding.

Also good morning erryone. Remember to use your words ^^

[quasi saffron]

I can tell you now, there was not.
Search up his post history if in doubt.

[vapid canopy]

I'm alright; working on my BB-unit project.

[quasi saffron]

Despite being in my end 20's I feel by this warmth my bones rubbing at each other.

[split schooner]

did I miss drama again?

[vapid canopy]

That's your free subscription to arthritis that you get when you turn 30. lol

[split schooner]

enjoy those knees while they still work

[subtle prawn]

Just a troll

[split schooner]

no fun

[quasi saffron]

It was rather one of the very unfunny ones

[elder parrot]

Alright ^^

[quasi saffron]

Well.
One week till Gamescom

Who else will show up?
I'll bring samples of coins with me

[hardy kindle]

I feel it too

[quasi saffron]

I had 40°C inside my car.
I am still trying to catch the leftovers from my brain that tried to escape my ears.

[elder parrot]

Its forestlake today again.
I need to go into cold water alot these days

I dont get being in even more heat and not going to lake/beach/water after duties and work

Its how you survive the heat imo

[quasi saffron]

I prefer the shower

[carmine scroll]

i have an ac window unit now. its changed my life.

[hardy kindle]

same here

Only good thing is I don't need to go out for work

[quasi saffron]

I feel like a amphibian myself at this point.

It's too muggy.

[worthy parrot]

Hey guys, my friend and I have been griefed last night (our fault for having an easy password I guess) the save is on the Cloud, so is there anything that we could do ? Or do we have to fix everything they broke and gather ressources all over again ? We didn't manage to find anything helpful online regarding Steam Cloud saves 😕

[subtle prawn]

You might have success with the automatic backup that is made of the world file

[worthy parrot]

files with names like 3bd85c7d_info-6 right ?

[subtle prawn]

Yeah

[worthy parrot]

We managed to find files here with timestamps that would be before all that went down, we luckily noticed it quite quick enough to save some of our stuff
But we weren't able to find a way to load those properly, I will have another look about this

[subtle prawn]

You need to rename one of the files to the right backup name

[worthy parrot]

I think I found wich ones, I'll launch it

[gentle forum]

Good morning everyone

[elder parrot]

Morning ^^

[subtle prawn]

Afternoon

[tame seal]

Morning!

[elder parrot]

Lunchtime ^^ 12.13

[tame seal]

Good day.

[elder parrot]

Which means i biked to forestlake since ive 2 hours lunch on this project for some weird reason

[gentle forum]

Time travelers

[tame seal]

Time-adjacent, thank you.

[elder parrot]

Your just behind in time, move faster ^^

[gentle forum]

I'm always behind, to fix other's mistakes

[elder parrot]

Good retort, im too warm and have nothing

Gwrah!

But the war is not lost

[tame seal]

He's always behind so no one sees his mistakes.

[elder parrot]

Save! ^^

[carmine scroll]

its too early. let me sleep more.

[carmine scroll]

can you fix me though?

[gentle forum]

Yes

[carmine scroll]

yay

[gentle forum]

Take these pills 3x a day

[carmine scroll]

noooo

[elder parrot]

I couldnt sleep, heat makes blankets the wrong kind of lake

[tame seal]

Who uses blankets in these temperatures....

[elder parrot]

I need to be 5 meters from the cold water as much as possible

[carmine scroll]

its too hot. my ac is good but my comforter was a little too warm.

[elder parrot]

Me, sadly - i found i cant sleep without some heaviness ontop =/

[carmine scroll]

saaaame

[elder parrot]

Hate it

^^ in summers

[tame seal]

I know plenty of people like that.

[elder parrot]

Yeah me too

Maybe i could try find a huge cold rock

🤭

[tame seal]

I also know one or two that sleep with winter duvets in the middle of summer....... ☠️

[elder parrot]

Then i call in to work in the morning "oh sorry cant lift this rock im stuck under.." ^^

"It felt like a good idea last night. I slept like a baby.."

[subtle prawn]

I might feel targeted (assuming it wasn't 30+ the last few days)

[tame seal]

Each to their own! 😄 It'd be my literal death though.

I sleep with a summer duvet in winter 🤷

[subtle prawn]

I basically always have cold... unless it's around 30 or up then I'm dying from heat

[split schooner]

I can't handle heat at all. I long for winter.

[quasi saffron]

Gimme autumn

I want all foggy, rainy and greyish

[tame seal]

I can handle the heat, in a puddly mess, but i too long for winter.

[subtle prawn]

Same, but glad the hottest temperature here in summer is like 34°C for like a total of 5 days per year

[quasi saffron]

Already too hot.

[split schooner]

yes

[tame seal]

I've been to canada and it was 40c+ when i was there.... i still prefer that temperature to the 25 and mugginess 😄

[split schooner]

yes

[fossil parcel]

same here, with all sounds muted by the fog and the pitter patter of the rain with the howl of the wind, and then the darkness of Winter creeping in day by day... that's the best

Lucky to live in a place where temperatures don't go above 22-24°C in Summer, my old place was a 40+°C and it was impossible to go around during the day

[elder parrot]

20c is where its too much already hurr

Swimming and chilling by lake with cold drinks are so lovely tho, could spend all summer here

[elder parrot]

Also, winters feel endless in sweden when they hit,
I need to take the chance cus even if winter is nice the first months, its gonna feel dull april =/

[quasi saffron]

I'd love to leave out the summer.
Spring, autumn and winter are okay.
But in that heat here I cannot wear any less anymore.

[quiet geyser]

and best part is gonna be worst and worst

we improved from Global warming to Global air fyring

[elder parrot]

People not living in 70-80% winter already smh ^^

[forest crane]

Wet bulb temp says what?

[elder parrot]

I dont like when its extreme heat, can deffo temporarily long for cold snow,
But its also not fun all the time, in winter i long for less dark long freezing nights.
Back and forth.

Winter/Darkness depression is a thing here too, too much of anything is urrr

[quiet geyser]

I always tell people that when it's cold, you can always put on more clothes.

When it's hot, there's a limit to how much clothing you can remove before someone calls the cops.

[forest crane]

People can survive in the most extreme cold environments on Earth.

But once you hit wet bulb temp, you're dead. There's nothing you can do.

[dim sphinx]

why does everyone still have to be a four foot tall midget whos arrows shoot directly at the ground most of the time

can we get some taller character models sheesh the height of the character makes this game kinda jank

[subtle prawn]

Since when is the character barely 2.5 blocks tall?

[quasi saffron]

We're around 4-5 blocks tall.
One Block translates into half an meter

Now math how tall we're

[warm flume]

first its a lot of "we are like hobbits" now I see we are too tall

[quasi saffron]

Complaining will never stop.

[forest crane]

We have hobbit doors. Was there ever any doubt?

[carmine scroll]

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[dim sphinx]

oh well tried to like the game

see ya

[carmine scroll]

bye!

[quasi saffron]

Tbh.
When have people get that entitled about characters size.

[subtle prawn]

Since the game launched or so

[carmine scroll]

ya. ive seen a few complaints.

i think the character models are fine. i like them.

i also i may never replace the bronze platemail as my transmog. it looks too damn good.

[forest crane]

I'd been using a combination of radiant helm and elder gear because I liked the cape. Was using soldier chest before that, also for the cape. Last night switched it up to guard of north helm and gloom monarch for the rest of the pieces. Kinda like the slimmer look, the chainmail under the accented plate.

[carmine scroll]

what id love is polished and new variety of the bronze plade. i mean i made it from scratch. why does it look old?!

[quasi saffron]

Because Oswald remembered them like that.

[subtle prawn]

Because it has been worn by 666'666 Flameborns before

[strange barn]

people want to be taller... I want to be like the carpenter...

tiny and chubby

dwarves might hit the ground with ther arrows, but they can eat as much as they want

the first time I launched the game I really thought it was about dwarves, with all the mining voxel stuff. When I found the first letter mentioning humans I denied it...

I really like the chara design for now, even tho I wish we could have at least the 4 body types already here for the male chara (tall muscle for oswald, tiny chubby, tall and skiny, and the one we already have)

same for female chara

but I know for sure that it is so upseting to make all the clothes fits etc...

but would be fun even for construction, you make something tiny with a character, that force the tall one to crouch to go inside xD

[warped pasture]

we should be able to play as vukah or 1/2 fell chars lol

[strange barn]

playong a vukah would be fun

[gentle forum]

Delete that before Ellis sees it

[strange barn]

even just some ''possessing'' stuff with magic

[safe swan]

I think the character size is good. No complains there. Not everyone can be same height as the Ancient, who I believe were taller than normal ppl.

[strange barn]

yep they were

but yeah for now, I think it's good too. comparing to the world we're in I mean. The bow problems comes from the bow system itself for now, not the size

the new custom stuffs were pretty welcome that being said, to add bit more depth to the personality for those who like to play a bit roleplay with their friends

now we just need a barber as pnj so... update when ?

[zinc rivet]

i never thought about the character size until i joined this and saw other people mentioning it. Then I noticed it...but it's far from the top of my wishlist

small and compact just makes the double jumps more realistic - ref Simone Biles 😄

[subtle prawn]

We aren't even small.... the character is between 2 to 2.5m high

[zinc rivet]

proportions then. i think that's what most people react to

[elder parrot]

How the chars look (especially feeemales) has been the usual trolls rant on enshrouded steam yes (as the pronouns rant about starfield, and 'body type gay bi romance' on the bg3 one.
Or the 'looks like a maaale' on forbidden west.

They always seek for a way to poo ^^

Fortunately our heroes try to tidy enshrouded steam a bit more then they do for the bigger mentioned titles

As a woman, its mostly ridiculous to me how boys ("men") rant about woman character looks smh

[zinc rivet]

it is important for a lot of people. i can't say I ever played Geralt and thought 'but he's not a woman so I can't play him!' but people are different

i mean, women haven't had much choice until recently 😛

[elder parrot]

They can buy barbie dolls and play dress up with them too,
But ofc not, its only about 'games'

[forest crane]

Geraltina would be badass.

[elder parrot]

Is my point

[zinc rivet]

i think most people just want their character to look cool, but there's lots of different ideas on what that is. i think we look badass in Enshrouded, especilly with the high level armours

[elder parrot]

Dont need 'boob shaped armour' to be a badass woman nope

Its just dishonest from that crowd.
They'd call a guy playing with barbie dolls 'gay' -but their rants seems to portray their wish to basically do thus in games.

[forest crane]

My character is a woman. I am not. I haven't thought about it since character creation. Only gripe I have is if I take off the helmet, the hair clips through the back collar of most armors I've tried.

Compromise, I always show the helmet.

[elder parrot]

Ive never feelt like ranting about how male chars looks in games

[forest crane]

Right now using gloom monarch armor with guard of the north helmet.

[elder parrot]

Its fine to play as whatever deffo, its the sexual-vibe rants that are the tireing issue ofc

^^

[zinc rivet]

i've asked several men about why they play women in games and apparently it's because they'd rather see a female bum....somewhat juvenile 😄

[elder parrot]

Thats an old trope they use

[forest crane]

My Valheim character was also a woman.

I think if I had to really boil down why I do it, it's because male characters all tend to look like the Doom guy.

[elder parrot]

Wonder if they also have their doll find a prince and kiss him and marry ^^

[forest crane]

Impossibly broad shoulders, blocky barrel chest.

[quasi saffron]

Uhm... What have I been coming back to.

[elder parrot]

Rants about rants ^^

[forest crane]

Just an ugly dude no matter which way you slice it, with impossible body proportions.

[elder parrot]

Make all chars vukahs and peace on earth ^^

Gwraaah

[forest crane]

And many times, the women at least have a bit more thought put into their proportions so they look more like real people.

One exception, WoW.

[quasi saffron]

And not sure if we should make that all a topic here now.
Everyone got his preferences. Nobody needs to defend his taste.

[forest crane]

Male characters actually make sense in WoW.

[tame seal]

Eh, i wouldn't agree overly much with that... female characters in games are designed with one thing in mind.... to attract men 😄

[elder parrot]

Thats not even the discussion. Read the caveats

[forest crane]

It depends on the game, for sure.

But most of the time male characters are just uggo with minimal customization options.

[elder parrot]

Tbh, many 'women' in games are designed by men so ^^

[forest crane]

And I like my long flowy hair.

Darktide did it right.

[quasi saffron]

I mean... Ranting about ranting is either not a good topic to argue about.

[forest crane]

Everyone is hideous because the universe is hideous.

[zinc rivet]

i don't like my forced eyeliner still though 😄

[tame seal]

I know plenty of women that like the character customisations of men in games... It's personal choice.

[elder parrot]

@quasi saffron Its fine as long as its civil

[forest crane]

I guess I also don't play games like Baldur's Gate 3.

[elder parrot]

Id not wish to escalate it, just a discussion about enshrouded and peoples expactations

[quasi saffron]

Some topics derail faster than others. Only thing I am saying.

[elder parrot]

Ofc, but mum is here

^^

[zinc rivet]

i don't think anyone is being heated here - not that i've seen

[elder parrot]

Me neither ^^

[quasi saffron]

Not sure if that's good. 👀
Could end in some Vukah being slain

[elder parrot]

Vukah gwraaah ^^

Its actually about vukahs i am the most activist ^^

[tame seal]

I personally prefer not to play humanoid characters in games.... but i don't get a choice in most 😄

[quasi saffron]

Remember.
If a Vukah has a pickaxe in his back the fun is over

[elder parrot]

Blob a to z as options ^^

[zinc rivet]

love to see a transmog spell that decks you out as a Vukah and allows you to move among them ala beastmaster skill

[elder parrot]

<3!

Approval gwraaarh

[forest crane]

I'm fine with armor having female form fitting shapes, but honestly it just doesn't make sense. Historically, the chest plate would be designed to deflect strikes and guide projectiles away from vital organs. Adding female form fitting shapes to the armor gives you a weak point right at the center of the chest plate where it will deflect strikes inward toward center mass rather than outward.

[zinc rivet]

hehe i've never thought of that

[forest crane]

Man, trying to navigate banned words while constructing some of these messages, I keep getting blocked by the server.

Server owners gonna have a field day with my chat logs.

This can't be posted because it contains content blocked by this server. This may also be viewed by server owners.

I had to change a word to "female form fitting shapes"

Gotta keep in mind, armor design is first to protect. Unless it's ceremonial. And even then, armor of nobility or royalty was still first to protect, and then they would just add trim and various decorations to it. You can see it even from historical examples.

That's pretty much why a chest plate is designed the way it is, sort of barreling out toward the center.

Deflect strikes, deflect arrows.

You want anything not hitting squarely to glance off to the side

[zinc rivet]

as long as it's fantasy, I don't really mind. The historical stuff is interesting though.

[forest crane]

The hollow armor, with the high collar in the front, I believe has historical examples.

The idea is that if something is deflected up, you don't want it to slip under the helmet and hit the neck or face.

[warped pasture]

personally, i just want more traditionally femme options. it doesn't need to have a breast-window but i'd like more pastel colors, more filigree, etc. thick/chunky armor can still be girly.

[forest crane]

I like the capes.

[warped pasture]

yes to capes

[forest crane]

I wish capes could be a separate slot and not tied to the chest armor.

Too few cape options.

Or maybe instead of a cape, which is a modern invention, actual cloaks.

[zinc rivet]

i just imagine getting cloaks stuck around my head as i do a dodge roll...

[forest crane]

skill issue

[zinc rivet]

get to your feet not seeing anything 😄

[forest crane]

I do like that absence of the "fat roll" mechanic.

[warped pasture]

i want a veil headgear. i'm sure it's not easy to render but i want more drapey, 'wind-blown' options too.

[forest crane]

Because even the chunkiest armor, historically, still gave the wearer almost unburdened freedom of movement.

Except jousting armor.

But that wasn't real combat armor.

And that's where you find the stories of knights having to be lifted onto their horse with a crane.

They would do things with jousting armor that you'd never do with real combat armor, purely for the extra protection.

But I'm also far from a medieval armor expert.

[warped pasture]

especially because we have a desert zone, i want some more desert style armor. light but protective with bits that drape and bejeweled.

[forest crane]

Pith hat

With the anti-sunburn neck cape

[warped pasture]

ooo, yeah. the kind with a lil spear on top!

[zinc rivet]

anti-sunburn? You heretic! you mean anti-shroudburn surely

[forest crane]

I do like that cosmetics don't have to match the actual armor type being worn.

[warped pasture]

agreeeeeee

[forest crane]

So I can run full melee armor and the sage set for cosmetics.

Or mix and match pieces.

[warped pasture]

tbh, the options we have now are pretty good. i'm just excited to see more.

the sage headgear with the braid HIIIITS for me

[tawny saffron]

i would really like to get an Enshrouded dev on my podcast. Not an easy bunch to get ahold of

[tame seal]

Have you tried going through official media channels?

[tawny saffron]

yeah, going to shoot them another email today at some point

[cunning basin]

tech folks, is rtx 4060 ti any good?

[hardy osprey]

pple trust me if i tell u im playing on 1050ti

[cunning basin]

im looking to upgrade to a new comp, and was looking at this but the gpu im not sure of
these specs-

Operating System
Windows 11 Home
Processor
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X CPU
Video Card
GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 8GB
Memory
32GB DDR5-5600MHz RGB RAM
Motherboard
ASUS Prime B650M-A AX6
Storage
1TB M.2 NVMe SSD
Processor Cooling
RGB CPU Tower Air Cooler
Power Supply
750 Watt High Power PSU
Wireless Network
On-Board Wireless Network

[gentle forum]

Only thing I'd be worried about is it's the 8GB VRAM version of the 4060 everything else looks fine I guess.

[cunning basin]

can i add mor vram later like regular ram or does that require the whole card swapped out?

[quartz glade]

Hey

[gentle forum]

No.

[cunning basin]

dang. im trying to find something within budget that i dont have to worry about in a year

[gentle forum]

What's the budget

[cunning basin]

$15-1600 usd

just the pc

i got i5 now with gtx1650 super. its at the point where the newer games are not compatable

[gentle forum]

https://www.ibuypower.com/store/rdy-trace-7mp-010

[elder parrot]

I have a 4060 ti (8 gb)

So im the one to ask ^^

I switched a 2060 super to it

I am very happy with it. It was what i could squeeze into my budget.

[cunning basin]

im trying for slightly higher than the 8gb 4060 so i dont have to upgrade again too soon.

[elder parrot]

Ti

[cunning basin]

8gb may not be viable with these newer games in another two years

[elder parrot]

As long as consoles is a thing, and currently, and a bit forwards, 8 gb IS not a problem

It is akin to people 'feeling' they will need 64gb ram, or 1000 watt psu

Truth is, most games will ofc use more when there IS more to grab,
But it doesnt mean its starving using less.

[cunning basin]

for the extra $100 for the one with the rtx 4070 12gb, not an issue

[elder parrot]

Someone asked me about the 4060 ti

[vapid canopy]

i'm running enshrouded on a gtx 1070 8gb msi

[elder parrot]

So i am giving reallife advice on 4060 ti atm

For instance, someone with 12 gb vram runs a game,
They see 'hey it uses 11gb vram so game needs that'

But; someone with 8gb runs the same game, now the games uses 7gb of vram

[gentle forum]

Ellis monologuing again

[elder parrot]

What i mean is, that the lack of more vram does not cripple performance,
Having more can be nice tho.

With directstorage and fast nvme ssd its also less of an issue

[gentle forum]

You should be all set with the one I linked, and it's a bit below your budget. I wasn't sure if you were already factoring in shipping and handling.

[cunning basin]

is the intel i7 comparable to the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X?

[elder parrot]

We CAN buy a card for '5 years in the future',
But in 3-4 years the power of the card is not as viable regardless of 'vram'

New tech, new dlss, better chipsets

[gentle forum]

It's slightly better

[elder parrot]

Anyways, TLDR; 4060 ti is not an issue to me, im very happy and 80 to 110 fps at 2560x is all smooth sailing

[cunning basin]

thanks for the helps

[gentle forum]

No problem, let me know if you find another prebuilt and want info on it.

[cunning basin]

its all good. i can afford the extra bump to the 4070

[elder parrot]

People often overhype ram amounts or core amounts or wattages without being realistic (or in knowledge of the underlying systems).

[elder parrot]

Sure thing. Just gave the info out of the question about this card ^^

[cunning basin]

info is always good

[elder parrot]

When i got mine, here, there was like 180$ diff to a 4070 and money i didnt have so ^^

I also have a history with x60 ^^

260, 560, 970, 2060 s ^^

[cunning basin]

i got bonus from working summer school😬

[elder parrot]

Nice! ^^

Funny enough, i also had a nvidia 4600.

This was their numbers before it started with shorter numbers like 260,3,4,5,,7,8..
And now its back at 4060 ^^

Tho the ancient 4600 wouldnt even 0.5% of the 4060 evetho 'number was higher' ^^

(Its before they added GTX and now RTX)

Basically went from old voodoo 2 glide, to the new nvidia that appeared
So ive done nvidia forever now

/monologue, its over now, nvidia expert cake is done for now

[graceful fjord]

So today is lag through the game while attempting to double jump day.

[cunning basin]

im running gtx 1650 rn. most stuff looks and runs fine, hte rtx thing didnt faze me too much. cyberpunk looks incredible with it without the raytrace. ive played videogames as long as they have been a thing and played some great games with dodgey graphics because thats all there was, so i dont need super hd graphics to enjoy a good game, but it seems like even the lower end games are getting to hungry for this pc. i had to add ram just for enshrouded.

[elder parrot]

Yeah i usually try raytracing a bit, and then i go back to more frames instead ^^

I do like dlss3 and framegen tho, thats been a big lift. Just need to keep frametimes in check with ultra-low-framelag, reflex and/or boost.

[elder parrot]

You need the new upcoming DJX AI special cores (double jump extreme) that handles new games doublejump 🤭

[graceful fjord]

wha....

[elder parrot]

A silly joke cus of how they market these things nowadays!

^^

[graceful fjord]

Ok, because the vukah temple is not easier with the added lag.

[elder parrot]

As planned moahaha ^^

[graceful fjord]

All I want is to find this missing drum

[elder parrot]

Ive heard 2-3 other people having weird lag(bug) with doublejumps and gliding lately

Wonder whats up with that, works here atleast =/

[pastel oyster]

If your PC is as old as your GPU, I am honestly surprised all you had to add was RAM. 🤣 It must have been a beast back in the day. 🙂

[pastel oyster]

Most of these have had to do with steam being installed on an HDD and something funky with the latest update and character model changes. Not sure about the doublejump though.

[elder parrot]

If you have decent cpu cycle speed, and the arch covers the newest sse and avx its usually not too worrisome cpu-wise, unless in special circumstances

[quasi saffron]

I ever thought it's Ellis stomach that gwarrrs at us.
Turns out it's her GPUs fans.

[elder parrot]

Lol, ive a gigabyte windforce, its solid silent fans ^^

My tummy IS growling tho!

Ive a lasagna in the oven (not hooman meat promise)

[pastel oyster]

I have been making bone broth since 9pm last night. the house has smelled like tasty food for 14 hours now. I dreamt of food....

[elder parrot]

Nice! I had a udon soup period and did long cooks with chicken bones or oxtail and stuff!

It gets so nommy hours and hours later!

[pastel oyster]

I'm a bit scared for this batch. It doesn't seem to be brothing correctly and I am worried I ruined it somehow.

[cunning basin]

it was an i5. i got it in 2020 or 2021

[elder parrot]

@pastel oyster Nauw, it will prolly be fine,
You can spoon-taste test it, and spice-salting in the end can save most things

[pastel oyster]

I have tested it - after 14 hours I was expecting more of the meat flavor to be out.

😦

[elder parrot]

What bones?

[pastel oyster]

I added marrow bones and some stew meat to make up for the lack of meat on them

[elder parrot]

Did u oven or light fry them before or went au naturelle?

[pastel oyster]

Roasted them with the veggies for about an hour

[elder parrot]

Alright sounds very proper tho!

Some taste usually comes out of hiding when salt comes

[pastel oyster]

🥹 I hope so... cause it smells amazing

[elder parrot]

crosses fingers

[pastel oyster]

Gonna turn up the heat a bit and let it simmer down

I am only used to making long chicken broths - this is my first attempt at a 24 hour bone broth

[elder parrot]

As a sweet dutch woman that cared for me online usually said
"It will come good" ^^

[pastel oyster]

😊 I hope so

[elder parrot]

Whatever i stressed to her about, in our virtual meetup ^^

Mhm ^^

[pastel oyster]

cause I am looking forward to making some Mi soup! 😄

[elder parrot]

Awesomes ^^

[graceful fjord]

I loathe the mechanics of getting up in this temple. Pickaxes...get ready

....I pickaxed my way towards a jumper pad...

[echo meadow]

I went through a mountain in a new world to skip areas. Was like 45 minutes of pickaxing.

[graceful fjord]

Finally found that drum...

[pastel oyster]

probably would have taken less time to do the quests 🤣

[elder parrot]

I jumped and climbed the mire-spire at night, while my children gwrrrared and played drums cheering me on! ^^

They wont tell how many times i fell tho

^^

[pastel oyster]

I never fell... strictly speaking... I did, however, bang my head into the tree trunk many a time and get my glider tangled in my feet a few times.

[elder parrot]

That counts lol ^^

Sorta ^^

[pastel oyster]

🤣

[elder parrot]

I fell between 0 and 7 times, halfways ^^

[pastel oyster]

I'm about as good at platforming in games as I am in real life - which is to say - not at all.

[elder parrot]

Nauw ^^

[echo meadow]

Listen...I'm not very smart 🤣

[pastel oyster]

I have found that 90% of the people who say they aren't very smart are much smarter than 60% of the people who think they are. 🤣

or what that 60% and 90%... lol

[quasi saffron]

Welcome to Mama Kiras messing with %-night.

[echo meadow]

Lol

[pastel oyster]

I like pulling percentages out of my butt - they smell like roses.

Woohoo! I killed chat again!

[quasi saffron]

Now meet our todays host: Mama Kira!

Sorry, I updated Discord (PC)

Now I can do the double trouble with u

[echo meadow]

I rather everyone think I'm not smart than actually know if I am or not. 😆

[quasi saffron]

The blues were too quiet today. They seem to have a brooding here.

[echo meadow]

Sets expectations low.

[quasi saffron]

I've lost my empathy to have expectations a long while ago

[pastel oyster]

I used to do that. I was told boys didn't like smart girls. Then I realized... I didn't like the boys that didn't like smart girls 🤣

(I'm old)

[quasi saffron]

(I'm younger than u)

[echo meadow]

I feel old lol

[pastel oyster]

I act like a child, so I think it evens out. 🤣

[tame seal]

They're still coming to terms with your salmoning.

[pastel oyster]

you are going up the river with that one.

[pliant quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-scream-yell-power-dbz-gif-17594453