the-tavern

[lunar saddle]

It is obvious, did they ask about levels? Was your response "levels don't mean diddly?" Again, levels mean something to some people, maybe not you.

[stable cedar]

For me it's sniper wizard; there's no projectile falloff for some spells, so lobbing fireballs from half a mile away onto a camp is so satisfying

[turbid violet]

Hahaha wasn't aimed at you Was meant in general.

@tame seal said levels mean diddly squat (which is kinda true, it doesn't impact your character in terms of stats).

@lunar saddle rebuked that killercod's attacking your opinion (which is a miscommunication between both of them)

[leaden kettle]

i only want more lvls for my skill point thats all

[lunar saddle]

Not a miscommunication. It is at least the second time he has said it.

[tame seal]

As i said, you can interpret my words as you wish, but do not give my words meaning based on your own opinion of them.

[lunar saddle]

Then by all means, clarify what you mean and why someone else's opinion on levels should mean less than yours.

[stable cedar]

Holy moly this, crafting table times are terrible. Just let me build and fight pls

[leaden kettle]

and i was only waint for answer so i di reapet myself so people dit replay

[lavish delta]

Or… you could both just not as ultimately levels haven’t been changed so it’s all very much a moot point

[quiet geyser]

What might actually be fun is to buff both enemy and player damage, so everyone's super squishy. Everyone.

It would make gameplay much faster-running but also super dangerous.

[stable cedar]

Ranger Hardcore mode, always and forever

[dusky heath]

ok off to play the update. Thanks Devs you guys are consistent with your updates and I appreciate it. Its nice for a game team to listen and be so close with its players. keep on keeping on babes.

[tame seal]

In this game, levels litterally mean diddly. That is my meaning, not once did i say there opinion was wrong or invalid.

[lavish delta]

I’ve not played in a patch and a half… are wands still brokenly op? (Note that is not meant as a complaint; I love my broken op wands)

[odd bay]

Step one, use bows. step 2, reduce enemy health so that headshots one shot step 3, profit

[lunar saddle]

As long as you exclude the skill points right? Which is the point of leveling? So they mean diddly to you.

[turbid violet]

I hear you, I wanna be able to max out/grind out everything. A few more levels would be nice

[quiet geyser]

Lower health on player too.

😈

[leaden kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-simpsons-bush-bushes-hermit-gif-5786484

[tame seal]

Yes, in my personal opinion, right now more skill points, as in levels, are worth absolutely nothing.

[stable cedar]

They're different. I haven't played in a while either because I can't pause the game to take care of the oldfolk and children in my house

So it's just on the shelf until I can pause

[carmine scroll]

hmmmm. so i cant take it we cant edit a preexisring characters face?
yet?

[lunar saddle]

So it was your opinion, which you interjected on top of someone else's opinion. Why not just let them have their opinion instead?

[leaden kettle]

yes not that i want everything max out but lets say level until 80

[quiet geyser]

One option is to portal to base anytime you need to, but that does mean you've gotta start over on stuff when that happens.

The viability depends on how often you get interrupted.

[turbid violet]

Yeah, I know that if I max out everything I will bore myself to death so realistically it should be capped. 80 sounds cool! But even 10 more levels would be nice

[lavish delta]

Fair enough… I get that. Right I’m gonna need to try them out and see how they feel or I’m going pure bardcore with a bow.

[lunar saddle]

10 more levels would be great just to mess around with skills

[stable cedar]

Regardless of reasoning, the end result is I lose all my progress and positition on the map every time I have to get up, making the game thoroughly unenjoyable and difficult to progress in

[tame seal]

I originally made a statement, you, good sir were the one that wanted to bring opinions into this conversation. You've made a bigger deal out of the whole ordeal than the person the comment was made to, who done the absolute right thing and ignored me. Perhaps you can learn a lesson from them. By the way, did you enjoy this game of ring around the roses? Did it satisfy your attempt at shoving your opinion on someone else?

[quasi saffron]

Levels will be included If it makes sense. If you can skill all, the entire talent system is pointless besides gating

[leaden kettle]

yes because if you want to mix warrior with mage and have te basisic work still have problem because some skill are like 1 and other like 5 and that okay but you not get the tree part you want because of that

[tame seal]

The whole point of having limited skill points is so you have to pick and choose and so that you cant have everything... otherwise what's the point?

[lavish delta]

I mean eventually I’m assuming there will be an active modding community for the game that will allow you to just get all the skills if you want them.

[zinc rivet]

i like having to choose - that's the point

[quasi saffron]

Sacrifices need to be made with any of those talent systems, can't have it all.

[lunar saddle]

You responded twice to people asking for extra levels with the same exact response. You made your opinion clear the first time, you didn't need to keep reiterating it since it doesn't add anything. You aren't very good at trying to goad people though. No one shoved an opinion on you. You keep interjecting the same opinion on to people when they ask about something as if they wanted to hear from you. Once is enough. You can take the same exact "lesson" and ignore it.

[leaden kettle]

why not al lvl system like skyrim so you can focus it on doing

[strange barn]

Cant even follow the conversation. Good little mid summer update to makes new stuffs in the base and revisit the map to collect some stuff.

Hope a little fix for the already created charachter that has their apparence changed.

But it will feed me this week, thanks Keen.

Maybe its not perfect but you did not promise anything, so logically we had nothing really to expect, and it is still welcome.

Very impatient to see what's coming next !

I hope that the gamescom preparation isn't too stressfull, you rocks it team !!! ❤️

[zinc rivet]

darzin and killercod, maybe you chaps could have your jousting tournament in private messages 😛

[lavish delta]

You keep saying he’s not good at goading people and yet you keep responding to him, clearly goaded. Like dude… chill.

[tame seal]

No one shoved an opinion on me, you shoved an opinion on my statement as if you knew my opinion or what i was (Actually wasn't) trying to say about someone elses opinion. I can keep this going all day if you enjoy it though, it's rather fun.

[quiet geyser]

Yeah, the update is genuinely welcome. I like what they added. It's great for building.

[quasi saffron]

You also made your point clear.
You want just more points and No logic or balance behind that. Btw. you can skill right now what you want, just not at the same time.

[quiet geyser]

Just don't show the devs the chat RN.

🤣

[stable cedar]

Both of you are pretty and I'll take you both to prom, now shut up

[lunar saddle]

What was my opinion exactly?

[tame seal]

He says it as if i'm a troll actually looking to goad people. Okay, yes, i'm pulling him along but moooooom he started it!!!!! 🤣

[lavish delta]

Omg… I’m out. The argument about levels is getting on my t1ts.

To the devs… thank you for the update. It looks fab, very much appreciated. Thank you for all you’ve done.

[tame seal]

I have no idea what your opinion is. I said you tried to put an opinion on my statement.

[gentle forum]

lightwork no reaction

[leaden kettle]

i gone quite dis conversation before people are getting angry at its other for jack shit

[tame seal]

No ones angry here.

[stable cedar]

Discord was a mistake

[tame seal]

Oh sorry, that's my opinion 🤣 I shouldn't put it on other people.

[quiet geyser]

People were a mistake, my friend.

Our ancestors should've never left the trees.

[quasi saffron]

How you dare.

[tame seal]

Scandelous, right?

[lunar saddle]

I tried to put an opinion on an opinion but you don't know what my opinion was? That is very strange. Almost like you are just making up shit to defend your shitty behavior of telling other people that what they are asking for is wrong.

[quasi saffron]

Shoot you a DM.

[tame seal]

The water.

[leaden kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/run-gif-22382748

[lunar saddle]

Easy solution though, blocked

[stable cedar]

People are fine... Far away where I can't hear them. Discord puts them in my fairy box so I can squint at them and go "huh"

[tame seal]

Woot blocked! First announced blocking in this server, am i successful now?!

[lunar saddle]

And solved

[strange barn]

Amm this conversation is a paradoxe for me. You're telling differents things using the same words. I'm going to find new armors. Have a great day y'all 🤘

[gentle forum]

Let’s all take a deep breath, enjoy the update. Thank you

[tame seal]

Armor well!

[stable cedar]

Post your collection in screenshots and tag me I wanna see

[tame seal]

This isn't part of the update? o.O

[quiet geyser]

Don't forget the collectibles quests and collecting all the weapons too!

[leaden kettle]

srry for everything

[strange barn]

Already made some in #creative-corner i think the last was yesterday and the others was last week, but yup, will keep in touch !

[tame seal]

You have done absolutly nothing wrong, no need to be sorry!

[strange barn]

I wont my friend, I wont untill I fall asleep 😴

[carmine scroll]

collectibles...

[strange barn]

When you dont listen or look to some who want to give you indications, finding a collectible feels like being indiana jones

You create your own difficulty

[dusk pilot]

I'm a little confused about the obsession with levels.
When people say this, are they thinking that levels = more content? , like maybe a level 35 mountain biome? Because yes, that would be cool. (so I agree!)

In pure "Need more skill point terms" though, there are 114 or so available now, if you get all the roots, right? That seems like a lot to me, so in that sense, I am confused as to why more levels are THE primary focus for some people. Level means nothing else but more skill points. You can begin a new character and immediately equip them with a level 28 bow.

I...I may have done this. (hides in shame!)

[strange barn]

And gameplay

Oups to late

[tame seal]

In most games, more levels means more stats, means getting stronger, means things get easier. That's the basic premise of what people want levels for.

[quasi saffron]

I mean...
In whatever game, you'll never get to skill the entire tree. Here people demand that now. Why?

[finite nymph]

Someone got the new set already? 😄

[zinc rivet]

this would horrify me 😄 but each to their own - i love games that just give you freedom to do as you want then you make your own rules. whatever floats your boat

[signal ocean]

what was the issue if I may sidestep the levels discussion somewhat?

[quiet geyser]

Hello, amazing work on the new updates both June and today's update. We will return once the endgame + map will be expanded. The server settings will greatly increase our playtime and replay value. We hope the skillsystem will be improved upon to stimulate party play more as well as looking forward to farming, npcs, and more. A question, with the portals update upcoming to other servers. We hope that we can sell items to other players that will namely contribute to the meaning of a base, being a vendor. Lets say potions etcetra like in Boundless minecraft etc. I have 300 hours and havent played since januari cant wait to return. @signal ocean are there plans for vendor, selling traits? to sell to players that visit your world

[tame seal]

Do makesure to place your upvotes on the suggested features you'd like to see, helps the devs a lot ^^

[bitter wyvern]

i got pinged

for the most vaguest update description everr

[vapid canopy]

So i can't remove previously built blocks by right clicking to remove the whole block such as walls, foundations. I can over write the blocks and then remove them.

[sacred orbit]

So, they made many improvements but I am sad, no new major gameplay

[bitter wyvern]

thats the issue with the messaging

at first it was said MAJOR UPDATE

"qol" ahh ofc

[sacred orbit]

Yea, by Major update, i thought they will finally unlock a biome. I appreciate their efforts but sad to see not enough new gameplay to go back as of now

[bitter wyvern]

exactly

[signal ocean]

thanks, we're looking into it

[vapid canopy]

the only other way to remove previously built blocks is to remove them one at the time and then build with the block of the material you do want.

[gentle forum]

Idk world settings is pretty major

[signal ocean]

don't worry this isn't normal behavior so it shouldn't stay like this

[tame seal]

It's a major update because there is a lot added/changed. You are both correct that there hasn't been a dramatic amount of new gameplay added, except the difficulty settings, but the amount of work that has gone into the update contents definitely makes it a major update.

[vapid canopy]

awesome! glad to hear this

[bitter wyvern]

world settings for a fixed world that isnt randomly generated????

[tame seal]

People complained too heavily that the game was too easy.

[bitter wyvern]

so difficulty settings

not world

[tame seal]

More than one thing can be worked on at the same time rememeber.

Some things take longer than others.

In this case, they were able to put out the difficulty settings.

[bitter wyvern]

bro did not get my point

[gentle forum]

Changes resources gained, enemies and other things. Sounds like world to me

[sacred orbit]

I always appreciate the amount of attention developers are still giving on this game. Always love the new fixes they deliver. I have no complaints with their efforts, just that I was finally looking to go back and play another 10/20 hours 😅

[bitter wyvern]

ahh cool

tbh

[tame seal]

Oh absolutely, i wont jump back in for a proper session until the new biome comes out either, but i'll definitely be hopping in to see what they've added.

[bitter wyvern]

games that let you adjust resource have a huge flaw in resource balancing but you could also say so everyone can play how they want which is a bandaid for "the resources arent balanced"

[lone wave]

If your ONLY metric for "Major update" is "New Biome" then yes, you're disappointed. Cool.

On the other hand if your definition of "Major update" includes anything other than "New Biome" then I imagine you'll be very happy with the update - I know I am.

Complaining because your personal headcanon definition of "major" doesn't match the English language definition of the word is a bit of a weird one, but whatever.

[quiet geyser]

The server settings already counters and is in conflict with my idea for being a vendor for other servers (players) Thanks for pointing that out, because once you start to touch server settings it defeats the purpose of being able to sell it to players. Oh well, the server settings is great.

[bitter wyvern]

major content drop means major means big, doesent even need to be a new biom jusz reworking the clunky grappling hook would be a start

[gentle forum]

Did you read the patch notes

[lone wave]

Which they've done.

[bitter wyvern]

no

[gentle forum]

Should go do that

[quiet geyser]

There's no way u got commentary without reading patch notes haha

[tame seal]

In a fixed world i'd whole heartedly agree (With a clear start and end) This being open world though it's difficult to balance resources. You'd limit creativity with buildings if you make resource gathering too difficult and on the flipside, those that don't pay much attention to the building would see a pointless mechanic if it's too easy. So flexible options are a good way to appease both.

[bitter wyvern]

Ok ill check them out

[signal ocean]

alas, content is "cheap" to make (in that it's not very complex usually) but it's even faster to consume, so it will take us some time for our next biome, because it's a big area to fill with places and stuff and monsters and quests

[zinc rivet]

i love the new character options. even though my existing chars have somewhat changed colour 😛 love the new old lady model. she's rad

[quiet geyser]

I like that perspective, ur right. Add an area it adds 10-20 hours. Add core game functions as server settings or skill systems, building mats, it adds 100+ hours, + Farming, etc stuff that is replayable repeatable. That adds to the new zones later on too

[zinc rivet]

you have to adjust your head a bit around an early access game too i think. it's not all going to be new stuff in a finished product - there's core mechanics being added and tweaked

[quiet geyser]

10-20 and 100+ are random numbers indicating that content is easier to blow through without new functionalities

[lone wave]

If you don't think this is a major update, I'd suggest whacking every single difficulty slider to maximum, and then coming back and telling us "Nothing changed"

[quiet geyser]

You should tag a player so they know who you are referring to.

If you are referring to me you obviously are just randomly typing stuff since im not complaining in the slightest

[bitter wyvern]

uhhh

[tame seal]

Each to their own what they want to consider a 'major' update or not, doesn't change the amount of work the team have put into either way.

[quiet geyser]

Im commending them this is a great game And I liked his perspective and I agree.

[signal ocean]

you're absolutely right. Some of the new features we're adding are "multipliers" in that they work in tandem with other features to give a whole that's greater than the sum of its parts

[gentle forum]

Math 😭

[signal ocean]

"content" aka new quests, areas etc are typically not multipliers, but features are

I also hate maffs

[quiet geyser]

We are already hungry to jump back into the game, whats holding us (Me and my 2 brothers) back is that we already played the playable area's so much so we wait for the map to expand. The multiplier and difficulty slider is the best thing in our opinion!

[subtle prawn]

"I couldn't get past the first enemy, it one shots me always" xD would be a quite accurate situation then

[quiet geyser]

The map is 30-40% done right now horizontally not counting caves dungeons etc right?

[tame seal]

I played a certain other survival crafting/collecting... that released around the same time as Enshrouded... games recent update (2 of them in fact!) only got about 10-15 hours out of it... And that's after 2 'major' updates simply because i didn't find anything engaging about the content they added (And imo they added more content in terms of surface area. than they did features.)

[gentle forum]

Palworld?

[signal ocean]

I can't comment on whether or not this is "volume" or area, I understand it to be area, and I know we're looking at adding extended cave systems to certain areas which I believe will be in specific biomes down the line

so not "across the board"

[tame seal]

I'm doing exactly the same, because i know full well that the new biome is what i'm most looking forward to, but i still love jumping back in on these updates just to see what features they've added, knowing i'm not expecting another 100 hours worth of gameplay.

[tame seal]

Yup, it wasn't too hard to guess 😄

[quiet geyser]

Im excited to see what the portals system are going to bring to the table, perhaps once full release they can focus on more content such as community content in combination with portals

Puzzles etc.

[regal citrus]

Hello, anyone else having the problem of "updraft" no longer working ???

[quiet geyser]

But having a better loot table, more RNG, and more enemies especially bosses + dungeons will be neat with bigger areas.

[subtle prawn]

More rng sounds terrible

[quiet geyser]

Well with RNG its more the bosses drop the same items constantly.

I personally dislike that

[safe swan]

Alden has a quest for HHs again.

[tame seal]

The biggest problem i see with RNG and the loot table currently.... its too easy to just 'log out and refresh' It makes the RNG a patience test more than anything else.

[heady nexus]

Haven't played in a while, but I've gotta say that the cadence and density of these updates is spectacular. To not only get player progress but also tweakable difficulties within a year of EA release is very impressive.

[quiet geyser]

Yeah the refresh thing isnt my thing either.

Made for very casual gameplay that way, perhaps an option to turn that off

Loot scarcity cranked up to the brim

[tame seal]

The refresh thing does have a mechanical reason within the game/engine itself but that aside, yea.

[glossy kettle]

Killing the same boss over and over again for some RNG loot is an MMO mechanic to keep people playing longer and pay subs longer. In a game like this it doesn't make sense to go back and fight something again because we are progressing through a story

[quiet geyser]

Well if you got 300 hours like me im not playing for the story anymore hahaa

And killing hard bosses for garbage weapons is what was a dealbreaker for us as RPG/MMO players in a very Casual/buildy type of game. But as Coolusername once said a while ago they werent going for a super hardcore type of game anyway.

[subtle prawn]

In the end the game is more sandbox than an actual story game

[quiet geyser]

We can set challenges to ourself to play with only a certain material or a certain style or set time limits that will add to the replay and fun though.

[tame seal]

I agree to a certain extent. I'd personally say this game actually sits a little in limbo, for it has the core RPG storyline aspect to it, but it also includes a lot of openworld aspects which promotes group play, so having one and done encounters would be very limiting to those group play features.

[quiet geyser]

Yeah also perhaps being able to level up your armor levels or certain achievements ingame, or more materials to be grinded by certain bosses to make certain things also add to the rplay.

[wary mauve]

They just laid groundwork to fix this though

[quiet geyser]

Ah where in the patchlog isi t?

[glossy kettle]

Yeah, the respawns are important for the multiplayer aspect so you don't miss out on anything but they would never want to encourage people restarting servers on repeat for a chance at a specific drop because that would ruin a multiplayer experience

[wary mauve]

The difficulty increase of monsters and world settings in general

[tame seal]

There technically is a reason to 'farm' bosses, the trophies, although that isn't a huge incentive for most and i'd say they could certainly add more reasons to kill them repeatedly.

[elder parrot]

"Hunger", and mhm im a true fan ^^

[quiet geyser]

Brother my wall is so full of trophy heads, that was the most fun in the game for me for sure lol

[quiet geyser]

Thats a good point more heads to collect and armors to collect to display and just things to display things you've encountered gathered, which they are doing already. but great point

[elder parrot]

But, where are the game options to make erryone a vukah and have vukahs spawn errywhere? ^^

I think all the QoL, and more collectibles like the fossils are my fave additions ^^

[quiet geyser]

Fossils? Must have missed that, what is that?

[elder parrot]

Also good day, i slept late and just woke up ^^

[gentle forum]

How’s the hunger system work? I wasn’t around to play test and won’t be home to play the update 🥸

I need informations

[elder parrot]

I read the whole changelog mhm ^^ theyve added fossils to find and display in base

[tame seal]

People are right when they say this update is a huge QOL update rather than an actual 'land mass' update.

[tame seal]

You disappoint me...

[wary mauve]

World specific settings and layerd instancing it a great framework to add in raid bosses, better loot, and pvp

[gentle forum]

An update is an update.

[quiet geyser]

Amaazing!

[elder parrot]

Ive not tried it yet. Just read the full changelog. ^^

[quasi saffron]

Can tell u soon

[hearty nova]

a huge QoL feature -> being able to have a "free camera" when building stuff. right now, you are limited to what you can "reach"

[elder parrot]

I often prefer reading to video ^^

[tame seal]

I'm pretty certain that is every builders TOP desire at the moment, the teams fully aware of it 😄

[quiet geyser]

Collectible props
Equipment like armor pieces and weapons can now be displayed in your base by attaching them to newly available craftable props. Complete Armor sets can now be changed with the press of a button. Also, the armor stands have varied poses, some of which are hard to hold in real life, all of which look cool.
Collectibles (like fossils) can now be found in the world, and can be displayed on decorative shelves.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-next-trick-i-will-make-you-gif-22120027

[quiet geyser]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1203620/Enshrouded/

[elder parrot]

Also i usually find hunger in games to become a boring click-to-fill chore, so i usually turn it off when i can ^^ its good for those that like starving tho ofc!

[hearty nova]

crossing fingers

[tame seal]

I wouldn't like to guess when it'll be added, but i have no doubt it will be at some point.

[quiet geyser]

They are already in the right mindset, finding fossels easily adds more gametime, finding armor sets too, being able to display weapon styles and hunt more trophies, display shelves.

[tame seal]

😉

[elder parrot]

Id say its a very good update - reworks of pois and qol and more stuff to see ^^ will prolly wait a bit tho

[hearty nova]

but it bothers me that I have to create a new character because of the new customization stuff :/

[elder parrot]

Its not that much tho ^^

[quiet geyser]

Naah completely new aventure, fun!

[gentle forum]

If only a certain hairy race went extinct this update. It would have been perfect.

[elder parrot]

can wait until they add 300 hair styles and bum customization ^^

[tame seal]

Suggestion? Create a character to see what the new customisations are like, but wait until they add changeable cosmetics in game before scrapping your old character.

[zinc rivet]

though all the women characters are still wearing their eyeliner.

[elder parrot]

Pft, i need a slider to add more vukahs gwrahr

[zinc rivet]

my eyeliner falls off in about 5 minutes in a gentle breeze. not sure how they keep theirs on whilst gliding around at 300km/h

[tame seal]

Magic!

[zinc rivet]

it is a fantasy game i guess 😄

[tame seal]

Hey, there's magic in the world.

[hearty nova]

permanent marker LOL

[elder parrot]

I dont care as much how my char looks in embervale, the vukahs dont judge and theres barely any reactions from the fell ^^

[tame seal]

Coloured superglue?

[quiet geyser]

My character looks better than a Gorgon Matron, and that's what counts.

[zinc rivet]

it always annoys me a bit that's it considered 'default' in games though. like women don't exist without it. but hey - there's better things to whinge about

[elder parrot]

Lol thats good enough ^^

[elder parrot]

Thats true tho ❤️

[tame seal]

There are a lot of aspects of character moddling in games that are...... questionable to say the least.

[elder parrot]

Im sure more comes in the future ^^

I put on full armour anyways so noone knows im a woman, im there to business ^^

[hearty nova]

really quick question. my gf just bought Enshrouded and we want to play together. But each of us needs his own quest progression. What do I need to do for it?

[zinc rivet]

yah i know - i have a mask on too. it's more the prinicple. like people think we're born like that

[misty isle]

hey guys

streaming the new update todayy

[elder parrot]

Neat ^^

[quiet geyser]

Cue "every guy has a six pack."

[elder parrot]

I dont go for guys with sixpacks cus i drink more sodas then that ^^

^^

So many QoL tho

[tame seal]

The quest progression is still mostly server based. I assume you'll start a new game (server) to play? As such the world will progress no matter who has done the quests, but whoever doesn't do said quest will have the option to repeat any quests they haven't personally completed no matter the worlds status on the quest.

[quiet geyser]

I think it's fair to say most games make the characters into a bit of eye-candy for the audience. The better ones are fair about it, so women get eye-candy too.

[elder parrot]

I wonder how block-parry will feel, im so used to how it was now ^^

Also the vukah snooty gatekeeper in me tsks at making mire-spire easier to climb smh,
But its no biggie ^^

I loved the challenge, at night ^^

[quiet geyser]

"That mountain is hard to climb?"

"Sounds like I need to farm a couple thousand limestone."

[quasi saffron]

I've got neeews for youuu

[gentle forum]

Vukah all dead 😵

[elder parrot]

?!!

[gentle forum]

Praise be the flame

[elder parrot]

🤔

Gggrawh! Fake news

[quasi saffron]

Btw. you can almost slider everything

[quiet geyser]

Where do people think the mannequin parts came from?

[elder parrot]

Pft

[gentle forum]

The elusive mannequin in the wilds?

[quiet geyser]

Now THAT would be an interesting game-mechanic.

Have to hunt down wild mannequins and then frankenstein the parts together.

[zinc rivet]

eww creepy. sounds like a horror movie

[elder parrot]

I think this time i will try the qol and roam on the current save and then take a break again to the next update, as a sane and chill ea enjoyer ^^

[quiet geyser]

Yeah, but a really corny horror movie.

[gentle forum]

I’m stealing that for my personal project

[elder parrot]

Surely to fit hooman puny armours. We need to hunt hoomans for mannequins.
Dip hooman into miremud it becomes mannequin!

Vukah children throw tomatoes at them, fun for the whole family gwwrah!

[quasi saffron]

Options are: "Hunger mode" on/off, time until you start to starve (the time seems to tick after your last food buff ended)
You can either drink or eat (means water will save you also some time)
If you have nothing eaten a "empty" stomach icon will appear in your food bar that clocks around. (I'm right now waiting what happens if it turns 0)

[elder parrot]

I still feel hunger mechanics is just a clicker-game chore, but have fun ^^

[quasi saffron]

I'm just interested how that mechanic turns out right meow

[elder parrot]

Van replied to the wrong message, as his usual confused self ^^

[split schooner]

Liquid eyeliner tends to stay better, please don't use sharpies they sting.

[quasi saffron]

I expect it somewhat to be fun if 16 flameborn get unleashed

[quasi saffron]

Oh, 2 minutes into the game, already killed a Vukah, how saaad.

[gentle forum]

Just get eyeliner tattoos

[elder parrot]

Ive no energy for eyeliners anymore on normal days, foundation and blusher and im done.
Eyelashes already long erryone says so i dont always apply mascara either ^^

[quasi saffron]

Vukah use make up?

[strange barn]

||Devs teasing stuff in the far distance ||

[elder parrot]

I am not a vukah gwrah!

I am their adopted mum ^^

[quasi saffron]

🤨

[split schooner]

OMFG COFFINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[quasi saffron]

Okay, the starvation takes place.
But... My health regen is too strong. All 5 seconds I take 5 damage.

[strange barn]

First Fossil found !

[crimson shadow]

YO

[split schooner]

I am about top go do that

[strange barn]

I dont think I ll try to get the 5 today

But it gives some interest to certain type of "farm zone" if I can say

I forgot a lot about the region they're in

[gentle forum]

Is there a separate bar or how do you know when to eat

[quiet geyser]

🔎 Update 3 - i will wait for WIKI enshrouded to map the fossils locations before going to fetch them, solo... as for HH crystals (found a blue one, inside the first HH on the far left), i will keep that collector quest for last, because the crystals sound like a useless decoration item, to expose at home. 😩

[gentle forum]

You’ll be waiting a long time for fossil locations

[quiet geyser]

well Embervale is too big to go out without clues given... we must dig into mines and run old camps within the all kingdom... its crazy!

[quasi saffron]

Wait. So there are ancient bones hidden now all around the map that we have no clue off where to find?

[strange barn]

I'm pretty sure it works like chest. Found one place where it drops, disconnect, go back in game and pop, new (or same) fossil

It's a way to play

[gentle forum]

I’ll offer a peace treaty with the vukah if we get ancient golems in enshrouded

[signal ocean]

206 of them in your good ole CUB

[strange barn]

Actions speaks the words they can, no problem to no farm

[noble anchor]

I'm not certain but I think the fossils might be random.

[gentle forum]

What’s the level above ancient

[quasi saffron]

Good that I got a jail, I'll just put your bones there.

[signal ocean]

primordial?

[quasi saffron]

Primoris*

[gentle forum]

We’re brothers now

[quiet geyser]

hey guys quick question, i played alot of enshrouded when the game came out but got bored because of the combat, has that been improved yet? i wanna play again but I want a better combat system, not just make it harder, but make it more fluid.

[quasi saffron]

That is about to improve and got some in this update

[signal ocean]

may I have some lööps

[quasi saffron]

at least according to notes

[quiet geyser]

did i read right? colectors quest for chrystals... 4 of them means 1 by each HH?

[gentle forum]

I could share

[signal ocean]

there's a whole section in today's patch notes dedicated to combat improvements. Check em out

[gentle forum]

I wanna see a cyclops with his skin equipped on

[strange barn]

Well, with the latest updates we had a new type of weapon, dual wield, and it has some sort of little combo you can make.

And with this update i gotta say that I really feel the difference between now and the last week for the parry, block etc... with a controller its way more fluid and reactive. Idk for keyboards

[fair mist]

should i go first to the story of rot or story of fire?

[gentle forum]

Either

[elder parrot]

It seems few read changelog and "hunger" and got the pat on the head after for being 'a true fan' boasts ^^

[quiet geyser]

cool thank you, and what was the talk about how next update will be a combat one?

[signal ocean]

and new skills in this update, too

[elder parrot]

Changelog tells it all ^^

[atomic bay]

the big question- is there a pause feature yet in the single player?

[hearty nova]

guys. i started a local open game, how can my gf join now?

[signal ocean]

not yet no

[atomic bay]

thanks. i check in whenever there's an update. can't play til it does. Dang it.

[foggy veldt]

she can see the world while looking to join and then can type in the password

[safe swan]

Ppl are lazy to read these days. :/

[pure wyvern]

what happened to the map? there are squares in different shades of pink on it 😄

[tame seal]

What was that?

[elder parrot]

Im a true fan hungry hunger mhm ^^

[quasi saffron]

Yeah. That was the first thing I've eaten today.

[hearty nova]

hmmmm she's not able to see it

[strange barn]

Are you spoiling me right now Cub ? 😮 joking. I didn't saw them yet but glad to know 🤘

In the last hollow hall, with the standard difficulty settings, even if it feels a bit messy with a lot of ennemies it's easier to place yourself and switch weapons, kinda make my combos like that, I love clean fights, and you're on a good way for the moment, considering what you came first with

[foggy veldt]

then she can maybe filter or search

[strange barn]

Talkin to the team even tho it is just a personal view

[hearty nova]

got it

[floral creek]

Water?

[quasi saffron]

Anyway. I'll just now adjust daytime/nighttime according to how long it's dark irl and such.

[quiet geyser]

A lot of people can't read. A little over 20% of Americans are functionally illiterate, where they can't even follow the recipe instructions on a box of cake mix or hamburger helper.

https://www.propublica.org/article/literacy-adult-education-united-states

[signal ocean]

what

[quasi saffron]

Nope. Needs a bigger update later.

[signal ocean]

that's for much later

come back in like, a year

[floral creek]

Will do! Thanks for the heads up

[fossil parcel]

And it's not only the Americans...

[strange barn]

You said 2024 roadmap... be carefull with lies

Kidding

[quasi saffron]

CUB just stales time I see

[pure wyvern]

this kinda looks weird I think https://gyazo.com/cc4194792e8f3523b1404ce0ea78618e

[elder parrot]

Check grfx settings, if something affects it. They changed a bunch, like fsr3 instead of 2 and more

[strange barn]

Take your time, communication errors are part of the job

[hearty nova]

is there a way to group up or so?

[elder parrot]

Check grfx settings

[quiet geyser]

It's a little more embarrassing when you're the richest nation on the planet, and spend more per student on education than anyone else.

[signal ocean]

can you press F1 and click "report an issue"?

[pure wyvern]

everything is still on maximum as before and it is ONLY the map that looks interesting

[elder parrot]

Do you use fsr (now 3)

Cus it changed

How does it look with fsr off?

[signal ocean]

we're straying a bit too close to politics for my comfort so let's veer away from the issue of the US education system, it's been a long day

[pure wyvern]

not in map view, only when in the world

[quiet geyser]

Fair enough. XD

[signal ocean]

I meant "please use that menu to report the issue" 😄

[strange barn]

What about flameborns education after all ?

[quiet geyser]

When I filed a bug report it sent me to a website. It also lets you upload pictures.

[tame seal]

I didn't realise the number was so high.

[foggy veldt]

what do you mean ?

[elder parrot]

Try disabling FSR since they changed it? To see if it is that!

[hearty nova]

creating groups/clan or so

[signal dragon]

Im hungry to know if current characters can be edited with the new character customizer… just not enough to turn on the game to find out… because I rarely have time to do anything I want to do… but I still want to know… so… hungry……….

[pure wyvern]

nope, it is and was before set to DLAA, setting it to either FSR 2 or 3 does not change the map

[elder parrot]

Ok

[pure wyvern]

cannot disable it, since it was not enabled^^

[foggy veldt]

no

[tame seal]

Sorry CUB!!!!!! I Replied before i continued reading down the chaaaaaat!!!! FORGIVE MEEEEEE!!!!

[hearty nova]

is there a way to "trade"? 😄 sorry for these questions haha

[quasi saffron]

We'll hang you at your thumbs
And I still dm'd you without an response of yours.

[pure wyvern]

oh and it is only above a horizontal line above "pillars of creation"

[foggy veldt]

all fine, glad to help. you can trade ingame. you can go with your character in other peoples world and trade trough chests and verbal deals

[tame seal]

You did? You did! I'm running around and never noticed! 😄

[pure wyvern]

https://gyazo.com/b9198678910c01b002b8cc81aa300743

[hearty nova]

so trading works through chests... but there is no "trading" to actually give another person an item? can you drop items?

[foggy veldt]

but there is no ingame chat yet, so use discord

[foggy veldt]

no you cant drop items but you can give them trough your inventory

[foggy veldt]

but there is no "offical" trading, so its easy to scam

[signal ocean]

honor system

[quiet geyser]

Is there a estimated release date for the 1.0? Is it Januari 2025?

[quasi saffron]

What is thissss honor

[crude sparrow]

i was reading update notes and found the dc server. is there detailed info about mage changes?

[quiet geyser]

Yes check changelog in the Steam Changelog.

[quiet geyser]

I mean, you can also download a copy of someone's world and then loot whatever you want from the copy, so...

[tame seal]

I'd just label it at 2025 at this point, no need for a finer point than that right now. (Will get the devs in way too much trouble :D)

[quiet geyser]

There is a need, our need. Simply a question whether there was an aim.

[foggy veldt]

yes and there are even "half-official" worlds for that like https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1222915718111301643

[quasi saffron]

There was. Then the game boomed

[quiet geyser]

Boomed?

[quasi saffron]

Like, population boom.

Suffering from success

[quiet geyser]

So, hire more employees? haha

[quasi saffron]

bigger teams don't mean faster content

[quiet geyser]

Yes it does

[signal ocean]

how many women to make a baby in 1 month?

[quasi saffron]

naww. Only more heads that bonk each other

[foggy veldt]

yes but it lost the population after one of the devs told me to not say mean things to gingers and french

[finite nymph]

Not at the start, but later yes, if managed well.

[crude sparrow]

thanks! was reading from the official site and thought why it wasnt there

[foggy veldt]

nah im kidding its still famous as hell

[quiet geyser]

So having 30 devs on a project vs having 75 devs would not increase the speed of something being developed is what you mean with that reference?

[quasi saffron]

Clash of opinions would happen, even so clash of visions sometimes.

[signal ocean]

more that "throwing more devs at a problem" is very rarely a solution that's going to lead to desired outcomes

[gentle forum]

Hire me

[signal ocean]

but that's not just games, that's all of software development tbh

[signal ocean]

you'd have to apply first

[quasi saffron]

Hire me with Prim

[signal ocean]

but to be more explicit and expand on what Vanolia was saying

[quiet geyser]

But having more people to help with designing levels and working/ fleshing out game functions would speed it up I'd assume. Anyway not here to enter a discussion, if theres no window theres no window, thanks.

[signal ocean]

thanks to the success of our Early Access so far, we've been able to expand the scope of the game

[gentle forum]

We’re a package deal

[quasi saffron]

So you'll hire me?

[quiet geyser]

Well deserved.

[signal ocean]

we're more ambitious about the things we're working on

and we have increased the size of the team

in fact, we are hiring right now

[quiet geyser]

Thats great, water and weather i seen.

[quasi saffron]

So in short, we set the 1.0 date to the 31.12.2029

[finite nymph]

uhhh

[quasi saffron]

So the devs got all the time they need to implement stuff we need and want.
Like coins!

[gentle forum]

Not for the position I’m interested in ☹️

[quiet geyser]

Tripple A studios are a prime example of that not being the case.

A lot of games have soo many people working on it that they have to now have meetings to not work in each others way. Constant talking etc.
Then theres the HR that now comes into account because theres too many people to keep track of. More people = more cost = game needs to make more money to be worth = we fix that by microtransactions and painful/shitty game mechanics

[finite nymph]

Take me, I am quite kind 😄

[quiet geyser]

Not stepping on anyones toes here but, we can agree that a lot of the big games are total disasters nowadays

[finite nymph]

What do you want to do?

[tame seal]

If they say it's released in Jan and they have a major setback and cant release until August, what kind of look does that give them? 😄

[quiet geyser]

Even though they have plenty of people working on them

[quiet geyser]

At least theyre honest xD

[signal ocean]

also our studio has a very "we want durable, slow growth" mentality, so even if we could triple the team's size overnight, we wouldn't want to do this

[quiet geyser]

Thats a discussion ur trying to start and not something In my original question but thanks for your 2 cents

[marsh hemlock]

When will we be able to recustomize our characters though

[signal ocean]

as Killa said, software development runs into projects of scale pretty fast

[viral scarab]

This will probably happen with 1.0 anyway.

[quiet geyser]

I dont think its healthy in a lot of cases anyways

[signal ocean]

I can't tell you right now but I know it's on our radar

[gentle forum]

I wanna go to that castle off in the distance. It’ll be the first thing I go snooping around when I get home.

[sinful tartan]

Our password keeps coming up as INVALID

[strange barn]

Hmm

[tame seal]

It was an earlier reply to your reply to me, just later so you probably forgot about it, but it was relevant at that point, carry on.

[sinful tartan]

for our oinline server.

[finite nymph]

That is a very good approach!

[marsh hemlock]

ok sweet! i was all excited about the new customizations but i dont always want to make a new character lol

[gentle forum]

I’m network/cybersecurity so something in that wheel house.

[signal ocean]

absolutely fair tbh

[quiet geyser]

I mean I dont know how Game development really works but I also assume theres only so many people that could be working on any given thing. For example adding areas to the map. Is it even possible for more than one person working on that? @signal ocean

[signal ocean]

have you tried changing the password?

[sinful tartan]

several times

[viral scarab]

Almost certainly yes. That'd be a huge bottleneck otherwise

[gentle forum]

HR manager position open at Keen. I could give Cub a raise 🧐

[finite nymph]

Hmm, that will be tough

[quasi saffron]

And me.

[finite nymph]

xD

[gentle forum]

I’m happy being semi-unemployed right now anyways

[tame seal]

Of course it's possible... does it make it more complicated? Most likely with every person added 😄

[gentle forum]

As soon as I finish this job next week, I don’t plan on working for the next 6 months 🥵

[quasi saffron]

Almost enough time for Enshrouded

[quiet geyser]

I mean idk. Ive been a mapmaker in starcraft 2. it was definitely not possible there, but ofc its a different game with a different editor, mechanics etc.

[mental coyote]

I havnt played since March 13th so right before the Hollow Hills update, any recommendations for new content to explore since then or classes/builds to try? I only did a mage build then using the Helix/Weaver + Fireball/Poison spells. Not sure if there are other mage builds that others are enjoying atm.

If no recommendations then I will just aimlessly play but thought it worth asking about what others have been enjoying especially seeing 3 major updates since my last play.

[finite nymph]

Would like to do that as well!

😄

[gentle forum]

Do it.

[signal ocean]

does this mean you're gonna become like Turboprimoris

[gentle forum]

No I usually go 6-8 months out of the year not working

[finite nymph]

Nahh... I need some money for now 😄

[signal ocean]

I mean on here

[gentle forum]

Oh no, I have things to do. My fiancé is making me leave the house again

[tame seal]

The poison has been 'nerfed' (Fixed) The mage as a whole is not as OP as it once was, BUT still more than enough to play the game with and imo fun. As for specific builds, it all comes down to preference. Some say a Ranger build is currently the strongest but that something you need to decide for yourself ^^

[gentle forum]

And I think we have a trip planned to somewhere and I don’t expect it to be warm

[finite nymph]

You have a very harsh surrounding...

[safe swan]

My character's eyes were brown before, now they are blue due to the update. I have no complains.

[quasi saffron]

Mob density at max.
Embervale here I come.

[tame seal]

I take it the mob density is a world wide effect?

[gentle forum]

Yes

[gentle forum]

No I’m just trying to live my hermit life but no one lets me

[quasi saffron]

Just turn it into Diablo-style of enemy density

Or, should I say, Hollow Halls one

[mental coyote]

Ranger might be fun, I definitely like doing a lot of burst damage but also like high speed combat but not sure if any of the classes really have high agility like im thinking.

[tame seal]

So when people say the worlds empty, we can just tell them to turn it to max, yes?

[quasi saffron]

Uh... Not sure as of now. I have the feeling it also might be about... Y'know. Spawn points.

[tame seal]

I'm not sure the game fits into the highspeed combat frame you might be thinking. On a plus side, they have made it slightly easier to acquire arrows now.

[hearty nova]

wait. aren't resources always at the same spot no matter how many new servers you start?

[gentle forum]

Yes, the world is static

[hearty nova]

so what happend to my flint stone in the beginning xD

[signal ocean]

honestly this shouldn't be a problem as long as you're trying to access the right server, and both server and client have the same version. Can you check to make sure?

[gentle forum]

Have you checked if it’s there on a fresh world

[grand tide]

Wow thanks devs I was afraid the update was only minor but nah they also did the class balances thank you

[hearty nova]

yes and its not there anymore

[signal ocean]

where was that

[hearty nova]

PN

[kindred lintel]

the update looks awesome, can't wait to try it out. I haven't been keeping up around here, is there any word on an ETA for linux dedicated servers?

[signal ocean]

Pacific Northwest

[hearty nova]

nooo check your messages hahaha

[signal ocean]

oooh PM

[warm yoke]

Do you have plans to add greatswords? It's a very good and very big game, it would be nice to have a greater expansion of types of weapons and abilities for them.

[signal ocean]

haven't you asked that like two hours ago?

[sinful tartan]

yes. they are both updated. The server creator is also getting invalid password

[quasi saffron]

I don't think that weapons will get faster implemented if we bother the CM more.
The same goes for coins.

[pure wyvern]

does anyone know the save file folder? it does not seem to be %USERPROFILE%/Saved Games/Enshrouded

[warm yoke]

I asked about the patch, I noticed it wasn't added, so I wanted to know for sure about future patches

[quasi saffron]

Popular request. Popular demand. They answered already, that they'll "expand upon styles to fight and talents that support these."

[signal ocean]

I've not seen it on the roadmap, doesn't mean it's never gonna be on there

[quasi saffron]

But for swords specifically we don't know honestly.

[quiet geyser]

I did an I love it

[quasi saffron]

I do so too

[signal ocean]

I'm sorry I can't assist further, I'd suggest reaching out to our support so they can make your problem run the gauntlet

https://enshrouded.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[vapid canopy]

@signal ocean Cub, could Katar aka push daggers be added as an option for the daggers that were recently added to the game?

[signal ocean]

wouldn't the animations look hella weird if you don't fight the same with those?

[warped pasture]

oh you guys went fossil searching first? i'm down in HH, scrubbin the walls to find dis new shiz @.@

[quasi saffron]

Do you know what is missing only now?
Boss density slider.

[stoic heron]

"The mountains in Embervale are less snowy now. This is in preparation for new things to come…" --- waiting for that snowy region update u w u

[stoic heron]

omg if this is like palworld where boss areas can spawn 3 bosses jesus imagine 3 vukah brawlers bruh xD

[vapid canopy]

yes, unless you don't apply the animation for punching to them.

[quasi saffron]

3 Wispwyvern.

[split schooner]

but if this was like Pal world I could have a pet Wyvern and pet bats and... WAIT

[reef tapir]

what max level now daysß

[strong hollow]

How we change to the new settings on dedicated servers?

[stoic heron]

my god the day we receive dragon mounts in this game... lord knows im buying extra game copies just to support the game

[lethal rune]

lets go, probably the first game where i can swap armor off an armor stand

and wear it, and put what im wearing on to the stand

i've told like 5 other games to do this for 10 years

and nobody did

lol

[quasi saffron]

25

[reef tapir]

how is it still level 25

[agile parcel]

Still?

[tame seal]

Because there's no new areas.

[quasi saffron]

Why should it have gone up.
If something gets added, it'll

[agile parcel]

But I guess theres more map and elixir wells and shroud roots for moe skill poins atleast

[lethal rune]

the armor stands/weapon stands, this was the biggest issue with inventory with tons of armor taking up chest spaces

glad this update solves

[quasi saffron]

Also no, we're still at 114 Skill points

[agile parcel]

Did they come with the newest update?

[strange barn]

the fact that we can switch as easy is miam

[lethal rune]

and adds the swap, which makes sense for every game to have, no idea why more games don't do this

[lethal rune]

yep

[agile parcel]

sheesh thats a good addition

expensive to make stands?

accidental jojo reference

[lethal rune]

it just bothers me so much that core keeper didn't do this, i asked for this, and valheim too

you have to like mess with inventory whenever you play with an armor stand

[agile parcel]

Valheim got stands but they are kinda hard to use

[lethal rune]

yea

[strange barn]

nothing too big, but quit enjoying for builders & collectors

[quasi saffron]

Wood and some nails

[agile parcel]

also need to empty your hotbar to place all armors on the stands in valheim eww

[quasi saffron]

for Armor racks

[lethal rune]

not sure on the prices, tbh i probably wont play the update as i've been sucked into no mans sky

but someday i do plan to 200+ hour enshrouded again lol

[agile parcel]

im back to grinding rl these days (depressive)

[strange barn]

still needs to be able to choose what's on the HUD on Enshrouded. But I'm pretty sure it will come

[quasi saffron]

5 wood 3 nails per armor rack

[reef tapir]

as soon as theres more lategame

[agile parcel]

also im homeless rn so cant put up my setup only my gaming laptop

[quiet geyser]

Honestly, there's a difference between "living to work" and "working to live." I think it's kinda healthy to enjoy time off work, and to see work as a means to an end.

Sure, enjoying work is better, and liking your job enough to enjoy being there is great, but it'd be insane to suggest that every job is gonna be that nice.

[maiden lagoon]

Hey guys, I have not played in a while but I have a quick question... How is Archery looking now?
When I played in the very early stage of the game it was very annoying that I was out of arrows in literally minutes... Is it better now? Do arrows cost less or deal more dmg or we can have bigger stacks of them now?

[quiet geyser]

There are the eternal arrows that do less damage, but never run out, and people also make twig arrows on the go.

[gentle forum]

I work for enjoyment, and only when I need to pay something off or pay for something

[strange barn]

Cant tell, but mid skills point in the archery and It does not so much damage

[tame seal]

I wouldn't say running out of arrows in any slower (There is now an eternal arrow though) But obtaining arrows is now easier than it was before.

[strange barn]

oh that's why I only found one xD

[lethal rune]

the player character now shrugs their shoulders when trying to open locked doors

good addition

lol

3 more music tracks in kindlewastes

[strange barn]

yep I've heard one I think

[quiet geyser]

Yep. Archer meta is to use eternal arrows or twig arrows on the squishy easy to kill mobs, and to save the more expensive arrows for things that are a bit harder to deal with.

[strange barn]

pretty one

[strange barn]

nice info, thanks

I like to use all weapons, I made it like Red Dead Two, one toolbar for the weapon, the other for the tools and temporary camps

and archery can save your life

[lethal rune]

they added some new mage skill

[quasi saffron]

Funny. Could it be that loot is now shared between the enemies, when you crank up the density? 🤔

[strange barn]

but the magic tiny wood is way stronger

[quiet geyser]

I mostly use staff + wand, though I'll switch to sword when dealing with rats and those non-explosive bugs.

Those explosive bugs can bugger off.

[strange barn]

I use them as traps

they breaks legs

[lethal rune]

you're lucky you can do that, a lot of people in the world probably feel more trapped or have a rougher time with work/expenses or conditions they were born into

[gentle forum]

Yeppers

[strange barn]

he knows he got privilege, his name's Primoris after all

[lethal rune]

yeah or he just worked hard to get there

[split schooner]

kind of sad you can't just place the fossils anywhere

I'd like to plonk them on a shelf

[gentle forum]

Oh, my family is just fairly well off

Anyways

[strange barn]

I saw that a ''twitch drop'' incon were there. But leads nowhere ?

[quiet geyser]

I know it's sometimes seen in really well paid jobs too.

Someone knows they're always in demand, and they're already two years ahead on their retirement savings and mortgage payments, so they take six months off before applying for another job.

[proven cairn]

where i can find the actual roadmap?

[strange barn]

livin with 500€ per mounth. Where I live with my wife I can spare probably 150€ per mounth. depends on where your are for job payment perspective. (and where you live)

Some people that works double than me and get fairly paid more, they cant even spare 10€

[strange barn]

searching, I think I got it somewhere

[quiet geyser]

I've seen a shocking number of people who have no problem revising their spending upwards to near infinite levels, but struggle to revise it back down when money gets tight.

Any financial windfall, even a small one, can absolutely ruin them. It takes them less than a month to get used to spending twice as much money as usual, but then next month they don't have the extra cash anymore and they really struggle with reigning in their spending.

[strange barn]

@proven cairn #creative-corner this is not the current checked version by the way, cant find her

that was before Murkmire, but all is in the list

they're are no chekmarks at all in fact, this is the original version xD

[lethal rune]

now you can be a millionaire just making a business that does plumbing or electrical or A/C install. you don't even need the credentials to do anything yourself, especially with some A/C install jobs.. A/C install people charge 15-60k per a job. you just hire 1 employee with the credentials and pay them and become a millionaire overnight tbh. these trades are charging more than lawyers lol.

[strange barn]

money's poison as it is needed

but in embervale

no need of money cause everyone's dead 😄

[lethal rune]

and the sad part is the guy who own a business doing this, pays their employees only 60k a year maybe? but makes tons more money.

[quiet geyser]

Yep. Certain professions you can just take a few really well paid jobs a year, and then enjoy the rest of your time in peace.

Of course, that only works if you can restrain yourself from blowing every last penny you make within a month of earning it. A lot of people can't help but spend money as fast as they make it, no matter how much they make.

[lethal rune]

yeah people often live outside their means, like 20 room home, 4 cars etc.

[gentle forum]

Don’t let @quasi saffron hear that

[lethal rune]

but as a single person i'd probably live alone in an apartment, with 1 car

even if i was making tons of money

[gentle forum]

7 cars one for every day of the week

[exotic smelt]

could any one here help me by chance ?

[gentle forum]

For server settings? Check #server-support

[exotic smelt]

okay ty

[lethal rune]

the thing is if i was a millionaire, i could afford 4+ cars and huge home, but then i'd also be trapped, if i was working for someone, i wouldn't have the freedom to quit any time because i have all these things to pay for - but if i lived cheaper, then i could have freedom to quit jobs and not be trapped by my employer - or otherwise just work for yourself.

[keen narwhal]

Havent played in a couple weeks, came back and the game's running like turbo garbage, what happened

[quiet geyser]

I remember reading a story about a guy in England who won the lottery, bought a house and went on one vacation with his wife, then put the rest into a retirement fund.

He restrained his spending, but ended up having to go back to work because he was bored. The only things he could think of that would entertain him were either spending money (which would send him back to the poorhouse) or go to work, so he chose to go back to work while he still had the money on hand to walk away whenever he felt like it.

Apparently liked his coworkers.

😄

[lethal rune]

i guess he wasnt a pc gamer

wins lottery, just plays games all day

LOL

totally what i would do

[quiet geyser]

I ended up not being able to finish a CS degree because of health problems, ended up on disability, and wiped out more than 90% of my future earnings in the process.

Trust me when I say that even video games get boring after a while.

[lethal rune]

but yeah i agree, people need some kind of work/hobbies, things to do, even as a gamer

[strange barn]

I'll scream it under his window at nights for halloween

in the game

better say it

[quiet geyser]

In his case he just missed talking to his coworkers at McDonald's, so he went back to work knowing he never again had to take crap from anyone.

[lethal rune]

with money to pay bills for a long time he could also be more adventurous, try different jobs

try different hobbies

invest the money, start a business even

going back to same mc donalds job sounds like a comfort thing lol

[quiet geyser]

Cases like that really reflect what winning the lottery SHOULD be like, but too many people manage to blow through unfathomable amounts of money, take on far too much debt in the process, and go back to having to rent an apartment in the bad part of town again.

[quasi saffron]

I did not read that.

[quiet geyser]

I mean, he probably just wanted to hang out with friends again.

Do something to feel busy.

[lethal rune]

if i don't spend money crazy now, i dont imagine i could if i was rich either.. like i already have spending habits, i might buy 1 or 2 expensive things as quality of life things, or for hobbies, but those things even at 20k each wouldn't make much of a dent in big lottery winnings

[strange barn]

if I was rich I would make a Shroud Fest

[lethal rune]

like i want a really good telescope, but can't afford 1 now, if i bought a really good telescope from winning lottery, then it's not like i'd keep buying telescopes, it's sort of a 1 time purchase for at least 10 years sort of thing.

[quiet geyser]

See, I want to be a millionaire...

||...so I can buy a single house in a nicer city.||

[elder parrot]

If i got rich id put away most in a savings account and have it portion out a chill big amoint per month, and then id gather family and friends and ask them to bring all their debts and see if we can ease some of thems lifes ❤️

[pliant quarry]

Sorta a human nature problem, or I mean... Mammals in general tbh. Humans are the best at thinking long-term, but we're still pretty bad at it. When you suddenly are given what feels like a basically endless pile of cash, you're probably eager to start buying all the things you couldn't possibly afford before, without really thinking of how unsustainable that will be

For people who slowly work their way up to massive wealth it won't feel nearly as out of the ordinary, so they likely wouldn't end up getting excited and doing reckless things.

[lethal rune]

i grew up sort of poor and also in a cluttered home with a hoader, so the things i value are good spending habits and space... meaning if i had money to buy things, there is not much i'd value having over space to walk in my own house lol.

[pliant quarry]

Also keep in mind most people who end up buying lottery tickets at all were most likely extremely poor to begin with. People don't generally take such bad odds if they aren't desperate. So you'd probably be overwhelmed with excitement and not be thinking too rationally if you actually won.

[quiet geyser]

I remember reading a lot of research on how pretty much every human behavior was observed in primates, especially chimpanzees.

After reading so much about it, I couldn't help but come away with the conclusion "So we're just slightly smarter hairless chimpanzees."

[lethal rune]

yeah also what ellis said, i think a portion of my thoughts for lottery winnings would be toward other people, that would be a big part of it, how can i help people.

[pliant quarry]

Mammals in general, I really enjoy and have studied animal/human psychology. Other than good long-term memories and a chunky prefrontal cortex we honestly have more in common with other mammals than we don't. Language and writing developing is the main thing that set us apart so much.

[quiet geyser]

One problem with a lot of lottery winners is that friends and family can suddenly throw themselves into financial difficulties over and over again expecting to be bailed out, whereas before you won the lottery they wouldn't even dare.

Also, since they're genuinely in serious trouble if you don't bail them out, they can get downright hostile if you don't back them up.

[lethal rune]

nah nobody would be hostile toward me

i'm the hostile one in the family, they'd be too scared

lol

i also developed a mantra for helping people back in highschool

if they don't ask, and it was my idea, help them

if they ask, almost never help them.

[quiet geyser]

I think the most adorable research was learning that rats apparently giggle when you tickle them. It's just at a really high pitch, beyond what humans can hear.

[strange barn]

as bats i guess

[quiet geyser]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/video/eavesdrop-on-ultrasonic-rat-giggles/

[strange barn]

yeah kinda sounds like the bat

funny

I want kind rats in enshrouded

[quiet geyser]

We have them. They're not so friendly.

👀

[strange barn]

in my cave, just living

[strange barn]

that's the point, and they're freacking scary

[lethal rune]

for example i used to have a dollar or so, and sometimes people would ask me for a dollar for lunch money and i'd give them a dollar, and out of that i'd get the joy of helping them feel happy because they could buy something extra for lunch. but sometimes those people would ask too many times, so i'd keep telling them no, until they stopped asking - and then when they stopped asking and i saw them i'd offer to give them a dollar - basically felt like training them... rofl... but anyway that's typically how i view being generous, you can't really be taken advantage of if it was your idea to help someone.

[strange barn]

we have an expression here ''you give a hand and they might should try to take the arm''

maybe it's a known one xD

[quiet geyser]

Not scary. Just annoying. On my "pure mage" build I don't even use magic to take them out. Just a sword. Have like nothing invested into melee damage, but a good sword with no stat bonuses is enough.

[lethal rune]

yeah plus i couldn't afford to give the guy 1 dollar every single day, so also why i said no.

[pliant quarry]

I worked in veterinary medicine before coming to the games industry because my career history is an absolute mess. Animals are usually pretty smart in their own ways honestly. Just not in ways that humans find valuable/consider "smart"

This is one of my favorite videos to show to people. The whole video is good, but this part really gives context to how complex the brains of other animals are, just often in ways we don't find particularly valuable because they aren't relevant to our lifestyle as a species.
https://youtu.be/EJXG-5mZfJM?si=_1OXmxMUlxc4PtmJ&t=383

[lethal rune]

but turns out me and him were both happier when he didn't ask, and when he was pleasantly surprised that i'd just offer to give him a dollar

[strange barn]

I'm more about giving than keeping, but I give my time, idk, bulding a wall or create something

I really try to avoid money when it's not necessary between me and other people

[quiet geyser]

It's actually common for most mammals.

Trichromatic vision evolved around the time of the split between old world and new world primates, where almost all old world primates have trichromatic vision, but some new world primates have it too.

[strange barn]

that's how I got my wood for the winters, it saves a lots of money, but I cut it with the olders, and I work it

[lethal rune]

it's funny i have similar background in terms of schooling did 4 years of kinesiology undergrad in university, which was all medical, we even dissected cats lol (that were already dead somehow from conditions they couldn't be saved from). took anatomy, physiology, immunology etc.

[pliant quarry]

The video goes over a few things, the timestamp I linked wasn't about colorblindness at all

classic youtube thumbnail shenanigans

[strange barn]

thanks for the video !

[elder parrot]

Id only want to help family friends get the one free slate to start with, it would uplift them atleast alot to begin with to magic away longlife debts and the likes

[quiet geyser]

Having listened to a minute, it almost sounds somewhat similar to the human experience of synesthesia.

[lethal rune]

i also did 2 years of college which involved humanities; so psychology, history, philosophy, sociology, literature etc.

[elder parrot]

Discord only failed to send and delayed my reply half a day (minutes) smh ^^

[strange barn]

when I was a kid I thought that dogs could see smells,. Like waves of colors in the air

[prisma frost]

Toastttttt

[pliant quarry]

synesthesia is more hallucinatory in nature, you can kinda think of it as pathways being crossed. I.E when you hear a sound, you might see colors that show up for, essentially, no reason. Basically your visual neurons firing when they shouldn't.

From what we can tell, dogs (and probably other animals as well, we haven't done these kinds of brain scans on many animals yet), are actually able to visualize smell in some way in 3d space. Possibly being able to "see" scent trails in the world around them to follow, which humans can't really do

[prisma frost]

[pliant quarry]

wot

[prisma frost]

Is there plan for enhacing warrior gameplay in future?

[lethal rune]

they did it

[prisma frost]

oh nice

[lethal rune]

better block and parry and switching weapons in this update

[quiet geyser]

I have to say, I would not want to be able to "see" the scent trails on someone's fart...

[lethal rune]

they also said they improved the skill tree a bit overall, but didn't highlight how in the video

[pliant quarry]

but then you'd know who dealt it

[strange barn]

clearly not, but I can tell to lil me he was kind of a genius

[quiet geyser]

...and you still get blamed for it.

[strange barn]

I'm dumb now, nevermind

[lethal rune]

would a dog sniff a fart still?

any dog owners know?

i feel like they would and wouldn't care

[strange barn]

they eat shiiiiiii

[lethal rune]

LOL

[strange barn]

I wont wrote the t

but you got me

[pliant quarry]

Yeah they'd definitely be able to smell it, they just wouldn't care lol

dogs don't mind "gross" stuff very much

[strange barn]

I've eard something about coconut smells

like they hate it

[quiet geyser]

There was a study in the Czech Republic where I'm almost certain someone was screwing with grad students, but they ended up confirming that dogs do have some sense of magnetism as well.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/01/03/259416979/everyone-poops-but-dogs-do-it-with-magnetism

[pliant quarry]

A lot of owners would ask me at the vet "is it bad that my dog is eating <insert gross thing here>"

and I'd have to explain to them... Nah, that's just what dogs do lol

My theory is their taste buds are just like constantly in overdrive, so they can eat sand or whatever and it still kinda tastes "good"

[strange barn]

yep, that's part of their society

[quiet geyser]

It actually makes sense because a dog's ability to detect magnetic fields breaks down in the mid-afternoon, and canids are naturally a nocturnal species.

[lethal rune]

it probably means cats have similar abilities

[strange barn]

probably. I'd love to eat sand and be like ''mmmmmh vanilla ice cream''

[lethal rune]

might not be as strong or whatever, but cats can sense earthquakes and stuff

[quiet geyser]

A lot of animals that seem to do just fine navigating long distances in the dead of night without getting lost, but they're almost strictly a nocturnal species, probably have some kind of sense for the magnetic fields.

[strange barn]

nyctalopes

[pliant quarry]

Foxes use magnetic fields to hunt, they're able to "see" them and studies found they tend to align with magnetic north when pouncing on something they can't see.

The theory is that they use it to triangulate in some way, helps them pounce more precisely

[strange barn]

that's aùazing

so amazing that I could not right it correctly

[quiet geyser]

It's probably useful for just not getting lost as well. Travel five miles from your den in search of food, it might help to know how to get home. Especially if you have little kits to tend to.

[strong hollow]

is there not UI for when you get hungry

[fair sundial]

im laoding in but have a question, for the skin color and character mods...does this only apply to new characters or can we change our guy?

[strong hollow]

new characters it seems

[fair sundial]

thanks

[gentle forum]

Toast just dropping fox knowledge bombs

[strange barn]

yup, and some bugs occured on the already created charachter but it will be fix

[pliant quarry]

yeah humans are sorta the odd ones out for not having magnetic senses actually, it's quite common especially in animals that migrate in some way like birds.

Helpful for finding your way back to your den or whatever if you're a hunter, stuff like that

[strong hollow]

werid there is not UI to tell you how hungry you are

just when you starving I guess your health depletes

[quiet geyser]

It also doesn't need to be perfect. You just need to get into the general area, where you can either smell your way back, or you recognize the surroundings.

[pliant quarry]

my brain is full of nature fun facts and chat is giving me an excuse to spew them out

[gentle forum]

Should’ve been here last night with the cave diving debacle

[pliant quarry]

it's a good sport if you like dying

[gentle forum]

Yeah, that’s the gist of it lol

Or underwater welding

[quiet geyser]

Fun fact: People sometimes survive skydiving situations where their parachute doesn't open. It's very uncommon, but people do sometimes survive.

Hit the ground just right where they go into a roll, or something breaks their fall just enough where they're alive but with a broken leg.

[elder parrot]

Toast also missed yesterday when Primoris tried to make the discord german and failed to moderate himself! ^^ 🤭

[quiet geyser]

Worst place to land without a parachute is water. If you don't have a chute, your odds of surviving are slim if you hit the ground, but near zero if you land in water.

[gentle forum]

How come there’s not satellite images from the 1200-1800s

[pliant quarry]

CGI wasn't good enough to hide the flat earth yet

[gentle forum]

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[elder parrot]

Isnt earth Toast shaped? ^^

And like a bit spongy ^^

[quasi saffron]

Yoink. I'm playing Shroudsouls right now.

[quiet geyser]

Everyone knows the Earth is an upside down bowl.

That's what gravity is for. To stop the water from sliding off the edge.

[elder parrot]

So Australia is inside the bowls underside? ^^

[quiet geyser]

Australia isn't real.

Unless we're talking about New Zealand, then they're real just long enough to say they're part of Australia.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-magic-poof-disappear-i-dream-of-jeannie-gif-9396045698105338463

[elder parrot]

Right. Australia and their ai generated 'dangerous animals' ^^

[elder parrot]

Gifs still disabled on my tablet, gwrahaha ^^

[quiet geyser]

Everyone knows those are lab-grown monstrosities and bioweapons, made to terrify the people into pretending the Earth isn't an upside down bowl.

[gentle forum]

No one to advocate for those stinky creatures

[left gull]

They put the crab fossil right where I used to farm iron 😭

[pliant quarry]

So called "Australians" expecting us to believe that anyone would unironically say things like breakky instead of breakfast smh

[elder parrot]

Crab > iron ^^

[left gull]

😔

[elder parrot]

@pliant quarry I usually get up on a pedistal in the morning and declare that 'i am now breaking the fast!", and erryone applauds ^^

[gentle forum]

Toast, what’s your opinion on the Vukah?

[elder parrot]

No vukah politics unless its shilling for them!!

[lethal rune]

aren't the vukah just gentle settlers, and our player character always rushes in murdering them for no reason, 9/10 times their village has nice art pieces carved in stone, and i feel like i murdered some family that was trying to make a living carving stone tablets.

[elder parrot]

^^

[gentle forum]

Vukah must be hunted to extinction

[left gull]

there's a new bug when going up stairs and jumping

[gentle forum]

You’ve chosen your side I see

[pure wyvern]

I cannot edit my structures as before since the update, does anyone else have that problem? e.g. there is a wall in my house which I placed from a blueprint, now I could delete it pixel by pixel but I cannot select he complete wall, it does not highlight. placing a new wall shows highlighting on that new wall and lets me remove it

[left gull]

idk where I can report this bug tbh

[lethal rune]

it's how i've always felt about it lol

[elder parrot]

Hoomans are the cause of embervales problems, the vukahs are innocent and glorious and smort and bestest!

^^

[quiet geyser]

Scavengers though...

shudders

I feel like the Gorgon Matron is the perfect start for a yo' mamma joke though.

[gentle forum]

Anyone got their vukah hunting license? I believe the season was extended until October

[quiet geyser]

I wasn't aware we needed a license to hunt Vukah.

I thought it was unlimited hunting.

👀

[lethal rune]

i honestly feel like the game could have allowed the player to eventually make peace with a vukah tribe, and learn their language, sort of like no mans sky has aliens and you learn their language.

[elder parrot]

Those licences are from totesRealLicenses.org ^^

[gentle forum]

No one really checks, it’s just best to CYA. Continue to cull them.

[lethal rune]

well there is the whole skill that allows vukah to be peaceful to you i think?

i never tried it sadly, it's far away on the skill tree in opposite direction of what i need

the existence of that skill sort of hints the vukah are not evil

[gentle forum]

I use that skill! Makes it easier to get up close and ||fireball them in the face||.

[quiet geyser]

It also wasn't particularly useful outside of maybe farming in certain regions (not get attacked by wildlife while farming, for starters).

Though it looks like Keen is rebalancing it a bit, and has plans to improve on it.

[quasi saffron]

Okay, at this point... I feel like they should add check points in some wells. Just looked into the one in the kindlewastes and whew... Thats a huuuuuge one now.

[gentle forum]

We need a Pro-Vukah and Vukah Hunter roles in here.

People need to pick their sides.

[lethal rune]

plot twist, the vukah are the natural evolution of flame born

sort of like the time machine movie

[safe swan]

Leave the Vukah alone, you big meanies!

[quiet geyser]

Pro-Vukah, Anti-Vukah, and "I just want my pelts"

[quiet geyser]

I like how nobody defends the scavengers.

😏

[gentle forum]

I kinda wanna see Keen’s art direction on some ancient golem/mech creatures

[brave ocean]

max level still 25?

[tame seal]

I either completely missed it, forgot about it, or it's something new..... but ||has there always been floating islands in the distance?||

[gentle forum]

Yes, still 25

[lethal rune]

you know how your flameborn wakes up after years and everyone is gone? well my theory is they aren't gone, they moved into caves, and over centuries turn into the vukah and lost their ability to speak, and that whole advanced society is now vukah. and you wake up and see vukah and think it's a new species.

[gentle forum]

Sorry, my house got pushed to stable

[quiet geyser]

Yeah, update mostly improved a couple areas (no new regions), and added in mannequins, weapon racks, and display cabinets for new collectibles.

[gentle forum]

Please don’t trespass as there’s armed guards

[tame seal]

That may be, doesn't answer the question though!

[gentle forum]

It’s new

[brave ocean]

havent played in a while but saw the update video. Updating now, gonna check it all out

[tame seal]

Well then, i have a good view.

[quiet geyser]

If you're not super into building then the update might be "meh," but for those of us who live and breathe building it's a big deal.

[gentle forum]

Outside boundaries. But I’ll go check it out when I get home

[quiet geyser]

Especially if you haven't done all the content yet.

[lethal rune]

the update could have just been 3 months to develop the mannequin armor switching feature

and i would have been happy

[tame seal]

Now that's just shwoing off.

[lethal rune]

that's literally the best feature every game should have and it doesn't

so far only enshrouded did it

[prisma frost]

Is there a way to read patch note besides on steam?

[quiet geyser]

TBH, I think it was just "what we can have done for now" while they work on other parts of the game that are taking a bit more time.

Especially since despite being a relatively small update, content-wise, it's going to make a lot of builders really happy, and the builders are the ones who post fancy pictures and youtube videos that help sell the game.

[sonic field]

Please tell me this new update fixed stealth or do I have to wait longer to backstab😭

[quiet geyser]

It looks like they changed it from what I could see in the skill tree, and people mentioned daggers being more fluid and easy to use.

[tame seal]

You can turn down mobs detection range.

[sonic field]

So backstabbing is now a viable option?😳

I’ve been waiting on buying the game for months until they fix it

[lethal rune]

detection range doesn't really solve stealth issues

because it's probably a 360 range

you need mob detection at zero from behind them, while sneaking

[sonic field]

Dang….

[quiet geyser]

The game has been a lot of fun for months though.

Archer, mage, and warrior playstyles are all viable. Not so sure about stealth, but they do seem to be working on it.

[lethal rune]

which would involve adding a game mechanic if it didn't exist

[sonic field]

🙃

[quiet geyser]

I imagine you could do a quick angular check.

Macular vision (farthest detection range) would be 18 degrees, then there's near peripheral, mid peripheral, and far peripheral, where each step out would further reduce the detection range.

If you're behind them, you don't get detected unless you make noise.

[elder parrot]

The fell are to dumb to need to sneak,
And vukahs can smell stinky hoomans from miles away anyways ^^

[quiet geyser]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_vision

[prisma frost]

What does vukahs eat?

[quiet geyser]

That's why you eat certain stinky foods, so you smell like a Vukah.

[quasi saffron]

Other Vukah

[prisma frost]

[elder parrot]

We resent this comment gwrah!
Vukahs smell lovely like lavender and roses from miremud baths!

[quasi saffron]

I mean, theres this one ritual hill in low meadows where everyhwere dead vukah lay around.

[gentle forum]

I think we need artist to weigh in on these foul creatures

[elder parrot]

Vukahs eat everything nommy that doesnt stink of hooman ^^

[graceful fjord]

I like these patch notes. I'm excited to jump back in and test them out.

[quasi saffron]

It's now Shroudsouls

If you want it

[elder parrot]

Vukahs try to 'covid distance' themselves from stinky hoomans but they wont cease ^^

[quiet geyser]

Eat yucca fruit, grilled mushrooms, and grilled wolf meat.

Smell just like Vukah.

[elder parrot]

Always running into the camps and stealing pelts and thrashing things

[elder parrot]

Miremud baths too ^^ important

[lethal rune]

i agree that some creatures could detect with smell, and it would be too complex to add wind mechanics to carry the smell... but i think that's what friends with vukah skill is for, so you can just walk up behind a vukah and sneak attack them lol.

the creatures that detect with sound mostly, stealth mechanics would be nice for them

[elder parrot]

Only a stinky hooman would sneak, its not honour or smort tactics just low gwrah

[prisma frost]

I’m gonna start fresh on the new hard mode

[lethal rune]

so you have chosen death

[graceful fjord]

If they stop throwing their spears because I walk too close. I'd like to just talk to them as I'm just passing through.

[tame seal]

Good luck!

[quiet geyser]

Or perfumes and stuff to cover up your scent.

Maybe some stuff that helps in the Shroud increases the range at which Vukah peg your smell.

[graceful fjord]

going for the souls experience I see.

[quiet geyser]

I actually think it's better if there isn't one meta strategy that gives the best result in every single situation.

Kind of like how the best magic depends on what you're fighting, and if it's a large number of weak mobs you're better off skipping magic and using whatever sword you picked up.

[lethal rune]

the good thing about the settings is i think you can edit them in your save at any time

[gentle forum]

Gimme my ponytail

[quasi saffron]

Put everything on max.
I did.
And then go to the kindlewastes well.
You'll have: 5 armored Fell with big shields, 4 fast ones, a Shroud Vulture, 200 bugs and maybe 5 Banshees on your toes.

[lethal rune]

games too easy

[quasi saffron]

And never ever enough time to make it xD

[graceful fjord]

Stylish....

[quiet geyser]

Also 10 of the bugs are the walking bomb versions.

[prisma frost]

5 banshees

[quasi saffron]

I had the 20 flying ones forgotten that aggressively try to push you into the red goop

[lethal rune]

difficulty is subjective, so i will declare that all those mobs? still too easy.

i need a real challenge

like maybe 20 dragons with haste spell casted on them

[graceful fjord]

Adjust it yourself then?

[quiet geyser]

20 Fell Sicklescythes

[prisma frost]

True giga

[quasi saffron]

Oh, Fell Sicklescythe can now target melee
At least, mine started to hit me.

[lethal rune]

the more mobs the more burn in acid and die at once, i feel like with old acid damages all those mobs would have been doable

[graceful fjord]

You enjoy the new difficulties...

[wide lake]

how does everyone feel about the new UI for crafting

[lethal rune]

you just cast 1 acid and 40 mobs die

at some choke point

[quasi saffron]

I don't joke when I say I want the Diablo-Enshrouded experience.

[lethal rune]

at a glance it looked good

[quiet geyser]

It's a bit janky at first, but I like it.

Especially if they plan on adding more decor items to certain categories.

[quasi saffron]

New UI is good, but it needs time to get used to as all does

[wide lake]

I like the larger icons but I don't like that I can't see both crafting ingredients and stats on same page

[quiet geyser]

I know scrolling for light fixtures on the carpenter was always a bit of a pain. Doable, but not if they plan on doubling the number of light generating objects you can get from him.

[lethal rune]

ideally they add comparative UI

so if i'm crafting an armor with stats, i can hover over the uncrafted armor and it will popup the stats and compare it with what im currently wearing

before i even crafted it

but might be too tall an ask

[quiet geyser]

TBH, I want to craft all the armors to put them on mannequins.

Especially since you can swap out your armor or vanity armor with one button.

[lethal rune]

yeah for that reason it also makes sense to just craft it anyway

once you have the room in your home for all the armor stands

[quiet geyser]

Or even just make a little armor hall at one of your outposts.

[lethal rune]

and the resources to craft it

[rapid orbit]

Does anyone encounter also big problems with updraft? Climbing and Glider?

[limber laurel]

I want circular blocks so dang badly 😞

[rapid orbit]

Did anyone found those 5 new temples in the kindlewastes yet?

Im looking for 3 hours now and havent seen anything xD

Big Props to the new loot btw <3<3<3

this new bow is so beautiful <3

[lament monolith]

well its certainly more busy than normal here today.

[graceful fjord]

New update, we crawl out of the woodwork

[lament monolith]

I see that

[young roost]

ANy way to modify old characters to take advantage of the new character design options?

[lament monolith]

craft a mirror.....wait wrong game

[mossy steeple]

Speaking of the sage set, since the update I can't craft the boots. They don't have an option to craft, they're gone

[graceful fjord]

They walked away? Or did the Carpenter steal them?

[karmic barn]

Why doesn’t updraft work now?

[lament monolith]

they are totally missing what the heck?

[mossy steeple]

Maybe he wanted to be more fashionable

[graceful fjord]

That could be...

[mossy steeple]

Is there somewhere we can let the dev team know they need more shoes in stock? lol

[lethal rune]

probably just the in game bug report

[graceful fjord]

My weapons have been replaced by arrows....

I'm going to reboot game...

[lethal rune]

so you're legolas now

stabbity stab with arrow between his fingers

[graceful fjord]

Legolas still had a bow to use...

[lethal rune]

i think he held the arrows in one scene and just stabbed orcs in the face with it

lol

because it was close range combat

[graceful fjord]

Been ages since I watched the films

[lethal rune]

if it wasn't in lotr it was in hobbit

[graceful fjord]

Ok let's try this again...

[latent swan]

i don't like the new view in the menus. you can see much less at a glance than before...

[graceful fjord]

Ok still the same...

But my weapons shows up in character window...

Hmm, maybe my computer needs a whole reboot.

[lethal rune]

so you still have your weapons but they appear as arrows basically?

[graceful fjord]

Yep, but noiw they are in my inventory....

[lethal rune]

they can be equipped?

[graceful fjord]

they can! Ok, just a teensy glitch

[lethal rune]

it seems like a neat glitch, a sword that looks like an arrow lol

[graceful fjord]

I reloaded to main menu then back in and the weapons showed up again. So easy fix

[lethal rune]

nice

[graceful fjord]

No sword in my hand though as it was acting like an actual arrow...

[young roost]

cries No new secret doors in the craftables section... Still can't make any secret doors in my limestone/sandstone structures...

And I KNOW that secret door asset is in the game, you can find them in Surat's Rest.

Looks like many, many of my custom markers are now in incorrect locations as well.

[high nexus]

hi, can anyone advise me on how to get the ectoplasm block crafting recipe?

[stoic heron]

ok i just did a revelwood hollowhall run and wasnt able to find the fossil HAHA

[young roost]

That's one of the hidden recipes in the hollow halls, I think Revelwood? There's some Youtube videos out there on how to find all of them.

[dusk aurora]

Hey guys, if I bought the music + game bundle on steam, how do I activate the music when playing online?

[high nexus]

oh I see, is it one of the new ones with the newest patch?

it is strange that I dont have it yet the quest to find crafting recipes in hallowed halls completed for me

[opal dirge]

The one that looks like stained glass is in the nomad hh

[young roost]

It's from the patch in March where the Hollow Halls came out.

[graceful fjord]

My character currently holds axe and shield in the same hand...

[high nexus]

hum, a bug in the quest then, thank you

[stoic heron]

i bless the devs for fixing bloodletting. mages are back forrealz

[neat jasper]

BUT ... WE still can Not Zone the skill tree and That sucks, sorry just the way I feel on that one

[young roost]

Do you have all the hidden items?

[mossy steeple]

Has anyone else noticed the floating islands to the north yet?

[stoic heron]

also light burst is really OP now, esp w trickster bloodletting

[stoic heron]

its area locked--- early release red barrier

[mossy steeple]

What a great teaser!

So excited to see it up close when it comes out

[stoic heron]

ngl we have 2 weeks-1 mo worthg of content to unravel

enough time to wait for the frost expansion

[chilly jewel]

I love the custom settings. My only gripe with the level cap was that I hit it too early. Now I can set that to 25% and uncover most of the map before hitting 25

sweet, sweet, sweet.

[neat jasper]

But .. You can not change it after you start the game .. unless you start over .. I made a mistake in one of them I noticed

[chilly jewel]

ah, that should be changed. People aren't going to know what they like for quite a while.

oh well

I love survival so I turned that on. Glad to see there are more berries in the world.

[young roost]

You can't change it? I was able to select edit on my saves and change difficulty...

[neat jasper]

I Agree, but I'm still in the starting area .. so it won't be to bad

[chilly jewel]

same and since I'm in SP, I can just exit to menu and make a change

[young roost]

When choosing to host or play privately, where you select your world, click "edit"

[chilly jewel]

yep, can't change on fly, but meh

[crude ember]

Yes. It is completely broken.

[chilly jewel]

ooh, hopefully a hotfix is inbound if it's that way for most.

[balmy sentinel]

how is it possible to change the difficulty settings on a rented server? im using gportal - thx!!

[carmine igloo]

Are we able to edit our existing characters now with the new character customization options?

[young roost]

Hoping so!

[carmine igloo]

If not, that's sort of a bummer to add new options and not be able to access them without having to make a whole new character

[chilly jewel]

ooh, can't see anything in the dungeons. Not even 5' in front of me. Wonder what graphic setting I need to mess with

[young roost]

I think the patch notes said you need to edit the configuration file on the server and that there's new options in there.

[young roost]

The good news is that it looks like the improved hair and features did get updated on our older characters, at least? But yeah, hopefully they'll allow us to modify old characters somehow.

[high nexus]

well apparently not, since I do miss that ectoplasm block recipe

[balmy sentinel]

hmmm, i already cheked it. but there arent any new options... 😦

[carmine igloo]

That would be nice, I know it's not a huge deal but I would like the option to change the eyes and skin now. But definitely not restarting for something like that haha

[balmy sentinel]

found an option 🙂

[vague grotto]

Moin moin all

[forest dew]

i need make a new game to the new in this update?

[vague grotto]

Do we? I haven't looked yet

[gentle forum]

No, you’re fine using your previous save.

[young turtle]

Hello, i just wanna asked if I can change the difficulty of a dedicated Server. Thank you

[forest dew]

nice,thanks for response

[young roost]

Hmm. Crafting options don't show how many you have in your inventory anymore: Trying to, for instance, craft Ecoplasm Soups and it's not showing me how many I have currently.

[jolly quest]

How do you change the settings of your server? Im the host but I dont have the option

[high nexus]

alright, got that ectoplasm block
has anyone found the mixed sandstone block? the newest one?

[young roost]

If it's the normal hosting on your own machine, click "edit" next to your server name after clicking on "Host" or "Private".

[jolly quest]

How about the dedicated server? The one you pay in Gportal? Im seeing other servers they can change but I dont have the option

[jolly quest]

How about the dedicated server? The one you pay in Gportal? Im seeing other servers they can change but I dont have the option

[young roost]

Not sure about dedicated servers. Supposedly there's some new config file options, but check in the #server-support channel?

[jolly quest]

Alrght thanks